[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Tom Harrop
Actually, not meaning to muddy the waters here, but both of the Nitto 
binder-bolt mounted cable hangers that Riv sells interfered with seatpost 
clamping on my Bombadil. I fixed it by switching to Surly's cable hanger. 
Could also just use a smaller-diameter bolt. Is it worth a try to go around 
the block a few times with no rear brake (and no cable hanger) to see if 
that makes a difference?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
My favorite Steve Palinscar game!  I'll play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uRX8Buu88



On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 1:22:53 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 04/27/2015 04:12 PM, Garth wrote:
  


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: 


 No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off 
 the seat post.  The second and almost as simple thing is to spray a shot 
 of hairspray on the seat post.  I have a couple of bikes that have the 
 same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other 
 case with the second. 


   
 No, the simplest thing of all is that no problem ever existed ;)   Figure 
 that one out . . .  lol. 
  

 Obviously, this is what you have in mind:  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0


  

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[RBW] Re: Finally... Albastache!

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Mc
cozy-looking ride

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:00:20 PM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:

 I've been wanting to try Albastache bars since I got my Hillborne.  
 Finally broke down and took the plunge this weekend.  I usually put down a 
 layer of Newbaum's to strap the cables down before adding my Brooks leather 
 tape.  When I was at Rivendell purchasing the bars I had a wacky notion to 
 buy the eggplant-colored Newbaum's instead of black or natural.  Now that 
 it is on, I'm hesitant to put the Brooks tape back on!  
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/17290439362/

 John


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[RBW] Hub Area Racks: any first-hand experience?

2015-04-27 Thread Neil
I'm considering adding front bags to my Sam using the Hub Area Rack. 
Anybody have any first-hand experience with these units? I recall hearing 
that the first version without the hoop support suffered from flex, and I'm 
hopeful that the support solves this issue.

Possibly pertinent info:

- I like using my Acorn rando bag with my Mark's rack, so don't want to 
switch to a full-on rack like the Nitto. Keven assures me the HAR plays 
well with the strut-mounted Mark's rack, and that three struts can share 
the same mid-fork mounting point.

- I don't want to use Riv's Hub Area Bags due to lack of proper mounting 
hardware. 

- I want to use a pair of Lone Peak P-099s, like these: 
http://www.thetouringstore.com/LONE%20PEAK/LP%20PANNIERS/P099/P099%20PANNIERS%20PAGE.htm.
 
The key question is whether the spread of the hooks on the Lone Peak bags 
will fit the short-ish bar of the HAR, but the Lone Peaks can be easily 
modded to bring the hooks closer together if necessary.

My ultimate goal here is to use the smallish P-099s (~24.5L) with an Acorn 
rando bag and my Acorn seat bag for my typical shortish outings of 1-4 
nights.

Cheers,

Neil

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 04/27/2015 04:28 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

My favorite Steve Palinscar game!  I'll play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uRX8Buu88


Good one!   Glad it's working for you. :-)


My Evil Twin PalinSCar played no role in this...






On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 1:22:53 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

On 04/27/2015 04:12 PM, Garth wrote:



On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar
wrote:


No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the
grease off
the seat post.  The second and almost as simple thing is to
spray a shot
of hairspray on the seat post.  I have a couple of bikes that
have the
same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in
the other
case with the second.



No, the simplest thing of all is that no problem ever existed
;)   Figure that one out . . .  lol.


Obviously, this is what you have in mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0



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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
Kevin

I have several thoughts on this.  First and foremost, I will agree with the 
several responders who said you deserve to be happy and frustration-free on 
your new bike.  Now, here's a checklist.

1.  Tolerances.  As others have said, you can measure the seatpost and the 
hole in the frame to see if they both are exactly 27.2mm.  I will assume 
you don't have the tool to do that.  That's OK, the absolute measurement is 
not as important as the relative measurement, and you have what you need to 
do that.  When the bolt is loose, does the seatpost FALL down into the 
frame?  Is it noticeably rattling inside the hole?  If yes, then the 
seatpost is undersized or the frame is oversized.  If the seatpost slides 
in easily, but does not FALL in, and there is little to no discernible 
rattle, then you are fine.  

2.  Interference from the brake hanger.  There is a narrow slot between the 
ears.  That slot gets pinched when you tighten the bolt.  The brake hanger 
lives in that slot.  If it prevents the ears from being pinched together, 
then you aren't clamping your seatpost.  You are clamping your brake 
hanger.  The test for this is first try to twist your seatpost with the 
bolt tight.  If it is slipping down the way you describe, it should be 
shockingly easy to move.  Assuming that is the case, take the bolt all the 
way out to free the hanger.  Put the bolt back in and tighten it, just 
normal tightness.  Can you still twist the saddle?  If yes, move on.  If 
no, that was your problem.  Make Riv give you a new hanger that is made 
from thinner material. 

These two tests will take you about 10 minutes.  Let us know what happens 
from that.  You should not have to resort to knurling or loctite until you 
know what problem you are solving.  

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:17:04 AM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote:

 Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ 
 miles to work this morning.  Although still too early to tell, it has my 
 very favorite bike stamped all over it.
 With one possible exception:  I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping 
 down.  Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is 
 starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six 
 times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up.  Very 
 frustrating.  I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was 
 interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be 
 avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain 
 attached to the seatpost bolt.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem?
 Best to all,
 Kevin


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[RBW] Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-27 Thread hsmitham
Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.

Here http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 04/27/2015 04:12 PM, Garth wrote:



On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:


No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off
the seat post.  The second and almost as simple thing is to spray
a shot
of hairspray on the seat post.  I have a couple of bikes that have
the
same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other
case with the second.



No, the simplest thing of all is that no problem ever existed ;)   
Figure that one out . . .  lol.


Obviously, this is what you have in mind: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0



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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Tom Harrop
Snap! What Bill said... 

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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
Please please pretty please, check if you can tighten it with the cable 
hanger removed.  I'm going to have nightmares if you don't check that.  

Regarding knurling.  This is the tool that any decent shop should have:

http://1mg.me/?w=300h=300filename=JS0115.jpgf=BTI

If they have that tool, the job takes 30 seconds.  If their standard shop 
rate is $12,000 per hour, then $100 is about right.  :-)


On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote:

 Bill et al. -
 The seatpost is only just barely too loose.  Honestly,  I think a tin 
 can shim might be too thick to fit in there, but the difference between the 
 post outer diameter and the tube inner diameter is enough to make the post 
 gradually slide down the tube as I ride.  
 So: first thing is a stop by the friendly LBS on my way home, which has 
 some friction paste in the back for conditions just like this (also 
 recommended by Bryan).  If that doesn't work, then I may mail the post back 
 to Riv for a good knurling (I spoke to a local machine shop, which quoted 
 me about $100 to knurl the post; at that rate, it'd be cheaper to buy a 
 Thomson post, instead).
 Yes, it's a bit irritating to have a problem like this on what seems 
 otherwise to be a masterpiece of a bike.  However, as a former parent of 
 two teenagers, I've learned to be understanding; these things happen.
 Kevin

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:41:25 PM UTC-4, Tom Harrop wrote:

 Actually, not meaning to muddy the waters here, but both of the Nitto 
 binder-bolt mounted cable hangers that Riv sells interfered with seatpost 
 clamping on my Bombadil. I fixed it by switching to Surly's cable hanger. 
 Could also just use a smaller-diameter bolt. Is it worth a try to go around 
 the block a few times with no rear brake (and no cable hanger) to see if 
 that makes a difference?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Garth


On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:


 No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off 
 the seat post.  The second and almost as simple thing is to spray a shot 
 of hairspray on the seat post.  I have a couple of bikes that have the 
 same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other 
 case with the second. 


  
No, the simplest thing of all is that no problem ever existed ;)   Figure 
that one out . . .  lol. 

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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Bill et al. -
The seatpost is only just barely too loose.  Honestly,  I think a tin 
can shim might be too thick to fit in there, but the difference between the 
post outer diameter and the tube inner diameter is enough to make the post 
gradually slide down the tube as I ride.  
So: first thing is a stop by the friendly LBS on my way home, which has 
some friction paste in the back for conditions just like this (also 
recommended by Bryan).  If that doesn't work, then I may mail the post back 
to Riv for a good knurling (I spoke to a local machine shop, which quoted 
me about $100 to knurl the post; at that rate, it'd be cheaper to buy a 
Thomson post, instead).
Yes, it's a bit irritating to have a problem like this on what seems 
otherwise to be a masterpiece of a bike.  However, as a former parent of 
two teenagers, I've learned to be understanding; these things happen.
Kevin

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:41:25 PM UTC-4, Tom Harrop wrote:

 Actually, not meaning to muddy the waters here, but both of the Nitto 
 binder-bolt mounted cable hangers that Riv sells interfered with seatpost 
 clamping on my Bombadil. I fixed it by switching to Surly's cable hanger. 
 Could also just use a smaller-diameter bolt. Is it worth a try to go around 
 the block a few times with no rear brake (and no cable hanger) to see if 
 that makes a difference?


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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
Yes, the Surly one is the thinnest.  The aluminum cheap ones are the 
thickest and the least reliable in part to part variation.  

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:42:47 PM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote:

 Snap! What Bill said... 


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Re: [RBW] Re: An even fatter (F)atlantis!

2015-04-27 Thread nathaniel nichols
Oh! no we only have one XO-1, the other in the picture belonged to a guy from 
Bicycling magazine, he was doing a story on a local race organizer and we 
happened to meet him at one of the events. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 Canti Waterford Sam Hill in Hilsen blue with Ritchey, Phil

2015-04-27 Thread Phobos
Just bumping this up.  Still for sale.  I had some interested folks, but it 
is still here.  Feel free to ask any questions.  Thanks!

On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 11:12:47 AM UTC-4, Phobos wrote:

 Spectacular rare Sam needs forever home.  I have too many bikes, and some 
 need to move.  This will be the hardest for me to part with so it goes 
 first.

 This is a Waterford, USA made Sam Hillborne.  Color is the same as a a 
 Hilsen.  Periwinkle blue?  And it is a canti-brake model.  Included headset 
 is Ritchey Logic.  Included BB is Phil.  It is in great shape with various 
 paint chips.  I tried to document them in the pics, but I probably missed 
 some.  Been built a couple of times, (once since I have owned it) and 
 lightly used.  I bought it from Rivendell used basically much like it is 
 now in Nov. 2013.  It has some chips and scratches, but no dents or frame 
 issues.  Great bike.  Should go to a true Riv. fan.
 $900 +shipping. 
 Thanks!
 -Mike


 Check, mo, cash, whatever is fine.  Paypal is okay if it is no-fee to me. 

 Here is the text from the Riv ad when I bought it.

 A few neat things about this frame: 

 Cantis go where most Sams haves side pulls. 
 It's a Sam painted the same color as the A Homer Hilsen. 
 It has a Phil BB and a Ritchey headset.
 Made in Wisconsin. 
 It's a lil' bit used and has a pitlock sticker on the seattube. 
 It is slightly used with nicks and slime in all the right places.




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[RBW] Re: New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)

2015-04-27 Thread Ryan Fleming
That's a really nice bike...a dead giveaway to the relative age would be 
the Reynolds transfers but maybe the prior owner(s) removed them. I like 
that silver and blue colour scheme though, and it looks like it was very 
well looked-after. Enjoy!
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 at 8:02:28 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:

 The FedEx driver delivered my new-to-me Rivendell Road frame and fork on 
 Saturday.  There is nothing quite like the anticipation of a new bike.  I 
 had wanted something a bit different from my Atlantis and Surly LHT and 
 decided this was it.  This will be my winter project, and I hope to have it 
 on the road come spring.  Photos here: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853/
 So I have a question for the collective wisdom of this group.  I have read 
 Cyclofiend's page on the Rivendell Road Standard.  How do I tell whether 
 mine is a Road, Road Standard, or some other custom?  I am at least the 
 third owner.  If I understand Waterford serial numbers, mine the 42nd frame 
 made in July of 1996 (G96042).  It doesn't matter to my riding enjoyment 
 what model it is, but I am curious and take pride, like all of you, in my 
 Rivendells.  So, how to learn more about the frame?
 Also, does anyone have photos of their Rivendell Road (Standard) bike to 
 share?  Looking for ideas and inspiration.
 Thanks,
 Erl

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Re: [RBW] sadly FS: my 56cm orange Sam Hillborne and my 60cm green SimpleOne framesets

2015-04-27 Thread James Stewart
Pix?

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[RBW] fs: 59cm rivendell all-rounder.

2015-04-27 Thread sasha eysymontt
FS: Curt Goodrich built and Joe Bell painted Rivendell All-Rounder. 59cm 
c-t seat tube, 57.5cm c-c top tube. Currently set up as a porteur with 
700x42 Grand Bois Hetres and fenders -- definitely the fattest tire you can 
fit with a fender.) Bike was built to take either 26 knobbies or 650b, and 
was the first 650b bike built for Rivendell -- this was Curt's personal 
bike. More rackmounts than you can shake a stick at. I tried to fit 650b x 
2.0 Pacenti Quasimoto knobbies but it's only like 1mm of clearance at best 
in the rear sans fenders.  

The paint is really beat up/chipped, but no dents and the frame is straight 
with no rust. Fantastic riding bike, and it's been a real friend to me -- 
I'm sad to see it go.  Only reason for sale is I'm taking delivery of a 
custom bike that serves the exact same purpose.

Saddle height as shown is ~76cm. The bike is really, really great riding, 
and I'm (inevitably) going to regret selling it cause it is so fun, but... 
yeah. I'd vastly prefer to sell locally.  Shipping would be at actual cost 
-- I'll likely need to split it into two boxes for shipping due to the rack 
and fenders, but can certainly do so.  I'm happy to meet people within 
~100mi of NY to do in-person delivery as well.  I'm in Westchester County, 
NY.  

The complete bike as built (Nitto albatross bars Pearl stem, shellac'd bars 
with Paul thumbies and Mafac city brake levers, DA post, Rolls saddle, TA 
Zephyr triple, Phil bottom bracket, polished Paul touring brakes, chromed 
Soma porteur rack, Ultegra derailleurs, pedals, etc.) is for sale in two 
configurations.

If you want a non-dynamo wheelset (Shimano LX hubs to Velocity rims) I'll 
sell it for $1750. If you want it with the fancy dynamo setup (Chris King 
rear/Schmidt SON front to Velocity Synergy rims and a Schmidt Edelux 
headlamp) I'll sell with both sets of wheels /and/ the light for $2300.

Full photos of the bike here: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sashae/sets/72157633142551928

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Re: [RBW] Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Mark Benedetto
I also had a couple issues with my Hunq from the end of 2013.  The seat 
post slipped a ton, but it turns out the tube was actually a different 
size.  27.0 I think instead of the standard 26.8/27.2 (which I suppose 
means I was fitted with a 26.8 post).  Also, one of the rear rack mounts 
wasn't tapped, so I had to tap it first to get the bolt in.  That's 
something a little outside reasonable expectations I think, same for 
knurling.  

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 11:06:20 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 I agree with this. A Hunqapillar should work with a Nitto, and slipping 
 shouldn't be an issue. If someone at Waterford keeps making the mistake, 
 they need to hear the dissatisfaction so they remedy their practice.


 On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Jason Hartman wrote:

 I know the folks at Riv are nice people and all, but if your brand new 
 $2000 frame is out of spec, then the right thing to do is send it back and 
 get a new one with the correct tolerance. I could understand using such 
 workarounds on an old frame of unknown history, but on a new bike that's 
 totally unacceptable. 
I could almost understand if it were a Surly, or some other budget 
 frame, but it would still bother me. 

 Jay Hartman

 On Monday, April 27, 2015, Kevin Lindsey lindse...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Just off the phone with Bryan at Riv.  He thought it might be a problem 
 with the Waterford frame; apparently, the folks at Waterford get a bit 
 sloppy with the tolerances.  His suggested choices are to use a Thompson 
 seatpost instead of the Nitto or, as Bruce suggested, send the post back to 
 Riv and they'll knurl it.  Unfortunately, the latter will take my Hunq out 
 of circulation for 2-3 weeks; before I consider that, I'll check out the 
 Thompson posts and see if there's a local machine shop that'll do my Nitto.
 Sigh.  Nothing's easy.
 Kevin


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:59:18 PM UTC-4, Bruce Smitham wrote:

 I had the same situation with my Sam Hillborne. I called Brian at Riv 
 and they were able to knurl the seatpost. Problem solved. You can have a 
 machine shop do it but I struggled to find that in San Diego.

 Good luck,

 Bruce

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then.


 On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being 
 to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID

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[RBW] Re: Jitensha bars for mountain bike?

2015-04-27 Thread CMR
I don't think these will be tough enough for mountain biking. Both from a 
safety perspective, but also just too flexy that you would feel a big loss 
of control.

The Origin8 Space Bar OR is built for that type of riding and comes in 
silver as well, although the bends aren't as graceful.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hub Area Racks: any first-hand experience?

2015-04-27 Thread Robert F. Harrison
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have V1 of HAR+HAB on my Hunqapillar (no hoop version). I have had no
 problems with flex on the racks, but I don't over stuff them. (Lunches for
 me and my kids, clothes, maybe a U-lock.)


I overstuff mine and have had no problems at all. I routinely ride a couple
of miles with a 12-pack (selzer water) in each with no problems - I don't
really go further than that though. I just did about 120 miles on camping
trip with both filled up, though much lighter than the 12-packs, also with
no problem. If the new ones are even stronger than the old, you should have
no trouble.

Aloha,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 04/27/2015 03:14 PM, Garth wrote:
After reading your replies Kevin, a new seatpost would be the first 
and simplest thing to try.


No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off 
the seat post.  The second and almost as simple thing is to spray a shot 
of hairspray on the seat post.  I have a couple of bikes that have the 
same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other 
case with the second.




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[RBW] Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread RonaTD
It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. Classic 
Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. 

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[RBW] Re: Finally... Albastache!

2015-04-27 Thread Reid
Oh yeah! The eggplant tape looks great on that bike. Much better than mere 
black. Too cool.

Reid

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[RBW] Re: fs: 59cm rivendell all-rounder.

2015-04-27 Thread franklyn
That's an amazing looking bike! Someone closer to you than me (all the way 
on the left coast) will probably snatch this up quickly.



On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-7, sasha eysymontt wrote:

 FS: Curt Goodrich built and Joe Bell painted Rivendell All-Rounder. 59cm 
 c-t seat tube, 57.5cm c-c top tube. Currently set up as a porteur with 
 700x42 Grand Bois Hetres and fenders -- definitely the fattest tire you can 
 fit with a fender.) Bike was built to take either 26 knobbies or 650b, and 
 was the first 650b bike built for Rivendell -- this was Curt's personal 
 bike. More rackmounts than you can shake a stick at. I tried to fit 650b x 
 2.0 Pacenti Quasimoto knobbies but it's only like 1mm of clearance at best 
 in the rear sans fenders.  

 The paint is really beat up/chipped, but no dents and the frame is 
 straight with no rust. Fantastic riding bike, and it's been a real friend 
 to me -- I'm sad to see it go.  Only reason for sale is I'm taking delivery 
 of a custom bike that serves the exact same purpose.

 Saddle height as shown is ~76cm. The bike is really, really great riding, 
 and I'm (inevitably) going to regret selling it cause it is so fun, but... 
 yeah. I'd vastly prefer to sell locally.  Shipping would be at actual 
 cost -- I'll likely need to split it into two boxes for shipping due to the 
 rack and fenders, but can certainly do so.  I'm happy to meet people within 
 ~100mi of NY to do in-person delivery as well.  I'm in Westchester County, 
 NY.  

 The complete bike as built (Nitto albatross bars Pearl stem, shellac'd 
 bars with Paul thumbies and Mafac city brake levers, DA post, Rolls saddle, 
 TA Zephyr triple, Phil bottom bracket, polished Paul touring brakes, 
 chromed Soma porteur rack, Ultegra derailleurs, pedals, etc.) is for sale 
 in two configurations.

 If you want a non-dynamo wheelset (Shimano LX hubs to Velocity rims) I'll 
 sell it for $1750. If you want it with the fancy dynamo setup (Chris King 
 rear/Schmidt SON front to Velocity Synergy rims and a Schmidt Edelux 
 headlamp) I'll sell with both sets of wheels /and/ the light for $2300.

 Full photos of the bike here: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/sashae/sets/72157633142551928


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[RBW] Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-27 Thread WETH
Hugh, happy birthday!  It looks like you had a great trip.  Beautiful photos as 
always.
-Erl

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[RBW] Re: Hub Area Racks: any first-hand experience?

2015-04-27 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Neil,
I have V1 of HAR+HAB on my Hunqapillar (no hoop version). I have had no 
problems with flex on the racks, but I don't over stuff them. (Lunches for 
me and my kids, clothes, maybe a U-lock.)

Hoop will add stability, but it's not been a problem for me.

HAR does play well with Nitto Mini attached to the mid-fork braze ons. 
(Shared mounting point like Mark's Rack.)
 
Pic w/o bags: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14635282251/
Pic w/bags: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/16115956976/

The HAB is great, for me. If there's a downpour, I'd recommend using dry 
bags as water can/does get inside. I don't know about the Lone Peak bags.

Good luck!
Shoji



On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-4, Neil wrote:

 I'm considering adding front bags to my Sam using the Hub Area Rack. 
 Anybody have any first-hand experience with these units? I recall hearing 
 that the first version without the hoop support suffered from flex, and I'm 
 hopeful that the support solves this issue.

 Possibly pertinent info:

 - I like using my Acorn rando bag with my Mark's rack, so don't want to 
 switch to a full-on rack like the Nitto. Keven assures me the HAR plays 
 well with the strut-mounted Mark's rack, and that three struts can share 
 the same mid-fork mounting point.

 - I don't want to use Riv's Hub Area Bags due to lack of proper mounting 
 hardware. 

 - I want to use a pair of Lone Peak P-099s, like these: 
 http://www.thetouringstore.com/LONE%20PEAK/LP%20PANNIERS/P099/P099%20PANNIERS%20PAGE.htm.
  
 The key question is whether the spread of the hooks on the Lone Peak bags 
 will fit the short-ish bar of the HAR, but the Lone Peaks can be easily 
 modded to bring the hooks closer together if necessary.

 My ultimate goal here is to use the smallish P-099s (~24.5L) with an Acorn 
 rando bag and my Acorn seat bag for my typical shortish outings of 1-4 
 nights.

 Cheers,

 Neil


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Re: [RBW] Re: New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)

2015-04-27 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I like it! A number of us have converted them to 650B it seems. Makes for a 
great riding bike.

Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 10:17 PM, carnerda...@bellsouth.net 
 carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 picture as requested:  
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/17283504245/in/photostream/lightbox/
 
 On Sunday, Octobe r 26, 2014 at 8:02:28 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
 The FedEx driver delivered my new-to-me Rivendell Road frame and fork on 
 Saturday.  There is nothing quite like the anticipation of a new bike.  I 
 had wanted something a bit different from my Atlantis and Surly LHT and 
 decided this was it.  This will be my winter project, and I hope to have it 
 on the road come spring.  Photos here: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853/
 So I have a question for the collective wisdom of this group.  I have read 
 Cyclofiend's page on the Rivendell Road Standard.  How do I tell whether 
 mine is a Road, Road Standard, or some other custom?  I am at least the 
 third owner.  If I understand Waterford serial numbers, mine the 42nd frame 
 made in July of 1996 (G96042).  It doesn't matter to my riding enjoyment 
 what model it is, but I am curious and take pride, like all of you, in my 
 Rivendells.  So, how to learn more about the frame?
 Also, does anyone have photos of their Rivendell Road (Standard) bike to 
 share?  Looking for ideas and inspiration.
 Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)

2015-04-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Man, I don't know about that stem. You may be at the allowable height mark, 
but I think you're pushing your luck with the bending forces this will 
allow you to transmit through the part of the stem outside the frame. I 
really think you should consider dropping it at least an inch.

On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 8:06:28 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote:

 Patrick, I like my bars high.  It helps me enjoy the ride.  The stem is at 
 the maximum but still allowable height.  If your interested: 
 http://americancyclery.com/products/nitto-technomics-280mm-1-quill-stem-26-0-clamp
  
 Eric, had I not found the stem linked to above, it was the method in the 
 photo you linked to or a dirt drop. 
 Steve, thanks and when you are recovered, I look forward to some riding.

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[RBW] Doin' the Six Pillars century Cambridge, MD on May 2?

2015-04-27 Thread Michael Leven
Anyone?

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[RBW] Re: New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)

2015-04-27 Thread WETH
Dear Joe,
Thanks for your thoughts and concern.  For comparison purposes, when I was 
in the initial build stages I had the noodles in a Nitto Dirt Drop stem( 
8cm); this current stem gets the bars to the same height and 1cm closer 
than with the dirt drop extended to maximum/minimum insertion line.  I will 
keep a close eye on the current stem and be ready to switch back to the 
dirt drop if I sense any issues.
With appreciation,
Erl

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:44:24 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Man, I don't know about that stem. You may be at the allowable height 
 mark, but I think you're pushing your luck with the bending forces this 
 will allow you to transmit through the part of the stem outside the frame. 
 I really think you should consider dropping it at least an inch.

 On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 8:06:28 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote:

 Patrick, I like my bars high.  It helps me enjoy the ride.  The stem is 
 at the maximum but still allowable height.  If your interested: 
 http://americancyclery.com/products/nitto-technomics-280mm-1-quill-stem-26-0-clamp
  
 Eric, had I not found the stem linked to above, it was the method in the 
 photo you linked to or a dirt drop. 
 Steve, thanks and when you are recovered, I look forward to some riding.



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[RBW] Re: New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)

2015-04-27 Thread islaysteve
Just a thought, we've discussed here (re racks) how conservative Nitto is 
regarding weight, etc.  it would seem likely that they wouldn't sell a tall 
stem if there was a safety concern.  
Steve

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[RBW] Re: New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)

2015-04-27 Thread David Banzer
Hi Erl,
I believe the Dirt Drop stem and the Technomic stem you have are made in 
different processes. The Dirt Drop is cold forged, while the Technomic 
Standard is not. This makes the Dirt Drop stiffer. Additionally, having 
less quill showing will have less flex. 
Either way, it's your bike and you can set it up however you'd like! Looks 
great and if you're comfy on it, that's what matters.
David
Chicago

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 6:50:08 AM UTC-5, WETH wrote:

 Dear Joe,
 Thanks for your thoughts and concern.  For comparison purposes, when I was 
 in the initial build stages I had the noodles in a Nitto Dirt Drop stem( 
 8cm); this current stem gets the bars to the same height and 1cm closer 
 than with the dirt drop extended to maximum/minimum insertion line.  I will 
 keep a close eye on the current stem and be ready to switch back to the 
 dirt drop if I sense any issues.
 With appreciation,
 Erl

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:44:24 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Man, I don't know about that stem. You may be at the allowable height 
 mark, but I think you're pushing your luck with the bending forces this 
 will allow you to transmit through the part of the stem outside the frame. 
 I really think you should consider dropping it at least an inch.

 On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 8:06:28 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote:

 Patrick, I like my bars high.  It helps me enjoy the ride.  The stem is 
 at the maximum but still allowable height.  If your interested: 
 http://americancyclery.com/products/nitto-technomics-280mm-1-quill-stem-26-0-clamp
  
 Eric, had I not found the stem linked to above, it was the method in the 
 photo you linked to or a dirt drop. 
 Steve, thanks and when you are recovered, I look forward to some riding.



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[RBW] DIY (cheap) Canvas Saddlebag

2015-04-27 Thread islaysteve
Much as I would like to buy a nice medium size bag for my Bleriot, I just will 
not be using it enough to justify the expense.  Therefore I decided to buy an 
inexpensive ($12) bag that I could try to adapt.  I think I've been successful, 
although it hasn't been road tested.  The galley with more detail in the 
captions is here: 
https://picasaweb.google.com/109191668701158452616/SaddlebagForBleriot?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCI7V2b-cwf7F4wEfeat=directlink.
  The bag measures to over 7 liters and will hold my tools, tube, Abus lock, 
and some clothes or food.  Cheers,
Steve

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[RBW] Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ 
miles to work this morning.  Although still too early to tell, it has my 
very favorite bike stamped all over it.
With one possible exception:  I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping 
down.  Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is 
starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six 
times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up.  Very 
frustrating.  I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was 
interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be 
avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain 
attached to the seatpost bolt.
Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Best to all,
Kevin

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Re: [RBW] How many rolls of Newbaums on 46cm Noodles?

2015-04-27 Thread Aaron Young
I always buy a third roll just in case.  If it's not used on the bars then
it can be used on a kick stand, chain stay, or under various clamp on items
on bars or tubes.

Good luck!

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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 I know the Riv site says 2 will work, but just wanted to confirm before I
 head to the LBS and pick up tape. Will 2 rolls work for 46cm Noodles? I
 know it works fine for 44cm Noodles, but can't remember how much tape was
 left over.
 Thanks,
 David
 Chicago

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[RBW] Re: DIY (cheap) Canvas Saddlebag

2015-04-27 Thread WETH
Steve,
You made some nice modifications.  That seems spacious enough for what you 
want to carry.  I will be curious to learn how it handles on the road. 
Erl

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 10:14:06 AM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:

 Much as I would like to buy a nice medium size bag for my Bleriot, I just 
 will not be using it enough to justify the expense.  Therefore I decided to 
 buy an inexpensive ($12) bag that I could try to adapt.  I think I've been 
 successful, although it hasn't been road tested.  The galley with more 
 detail in the captions is here: 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/109191668701158452616/SaddlebagForBleriot?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCI7V2b-cwf7F4wEfeat=directlink.
  
  The bag measures to over 7 liters and will hold my tools, tube, Abus lock, 
 and some clothes or food.  Cheers, 
 Steve

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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado


I had the same problem with my Sam.

I used a piece of aluminum shim stock or you could use a piece of coke can 
trimmed about 1 wide x the circumference of the post. .Also there are 
collars out there that you can put around your seat post to keep it from 
slipping..
Worst case scenario is to take your seat post to a machine shop and have 
them lightly knurl the area on the seat post that is clamped.
It's frustrating I know.
Hope one of these suggestions helps.
Jon  

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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Mc
My Moser was so bad about this I found an old Campy Super Record quill post 
and solved the problem.  One possible approach you might take is use Green 
Loctite (609)

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:17:04 AM UTC-5, Kevin Lindsey wrote:

 Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ 
 miles to work this morning.  Although still too early to tell, it has my 
 very favorite bike stamped all over it.
 With one possible exception:  I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping 
 down.  Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is 
 starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six 
 times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up.  Very 
 frustrating.  I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was 
 interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be 
 avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain 
 attached to the seatpost bolt.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem?
 Best to all,
 Kevin


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[RBW] Re: New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)

2015-04-27 Thread WETH
Dave,
Thanks. You are correct on the different processes from what I have read. 
 I will not be using the bike, as currently set up, for any off road 
riding.  However, I always try to keep the limitations of my equipment in 
mind and will take into account the limitations of this long stem as I ride.
With appreciation,
Erl

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:30:53 AM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:

 Hi Erl,
 I believe the Dirt Drop stem and the Technomic stem you have are made in 
 different processes. The Dirt Drop is cold forged, while the Technomic 
 Standard is not. This makes the Dirt Drop stiffer. Additionally, having 
 less quill showing will have less flex. 
 Either way, it's your bike and you can set it up however you'd like! Looks 
 great and if you're comfy on it, that's what matters.
 David
 Chicago

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 6:50:08 AM UTC-5, WETH wrote:

 Dear Joe,
 Thanks for your thoughts and concern.  For comparison purposes, when I 
 was in the initial build stages I had the noodles in a Nitto Dirt Drop 
 stem( 8cm); this current stem gets the bars to the same height and 1cm 
 closer than with the dirt drop extended to maximum/minimum insertion line. 
  I will keep a close eye on the current stem and be ready to switch back to 
 the dirt drop if I sense any issues.
 With appreciation,
 Erl

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:44:24 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Man, I don't know about that stem. You may be at the allowable height 
 mark, but I think you're pushing your luck with the bending forces this 
 will allow you to transmit through the part of the stem outside the frame. 
 I really think you should consider dropping it at least an inch.

 On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 8:06:28 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote:

 Patrick, I like my bars high.  It helps me enjoy the ride.  The stem is 
 at the maximum but still allowable height.  If your interested: 
 http://americancyclery.com/products/nitto-technomics-280mm-1-quill-stem-26-0-clamp
  
 Eric, had I not found the stem linked to above, it was the method in 
 the photo you linked to or a dirt drop. 
 Steve, thanks and when you are recovered, I look forward to some riding.



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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-27 Thread Tom Virgil
And a very Happy Birthday to you!

Tom

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:50:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.

 Here http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

 ~Hugh
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[RBW] What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
A stiff sole should help you on the longer rides. I wear a pair of Teva hiking 
shoes. I don't see my style on their website anymore but it's similar to this:

http://www.teva.com/men-shoes/surge-mid-event%C2%A0/1005764.html?dwvar_1005764_color=BLKO#icid=mnav_viewallstart=11cgid=men-view-all

Keen makes similar shoes and I had them before and liked them. I also use the 
Keen sandals in warmer weather. They have a nice stiff sole too.  

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[RBW] Hillborne + Rock N' Roads + (woody) Fenders

2015-04-27 Thread WETH
Jeff, nice work and a beautiful bike.  I will keep an eye out for you.
Erl
Kensington, MD

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Re: [RBW] Hillborne + Rock N' Roads + (woody) Fenders

2015-04-27 Thread WETH
The packaging slip with my Woodys fenders recommended periodic treatment with 
car wax.  I have yet to do that. After two years it might be time.

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[RBW] What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread scott
MKS sneakers or grip kings. Cheaper to get sneaker friendly pedals than get new 
shoes. I used to suffer with the rat traps, even though they look so nice, then 
just switched pedals and all my shoes work great. But to answer your actual 
question, Keen Newport sandals have a nice stiff sole that worked for me. They 
do slip around when wet and get hellishly stinky in the summer. 

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[RBW] fs: 59cm rivendell all-rounder.

2015-04-27 Thread Tom Goodmann
Sasha, I'll take it!  Tom 

more later back at my computer!

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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with 
slipping seatposts.  

This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on 
Rivendell's part.  If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from 
Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those 
framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense.  

I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it 
had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset.  



On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:

 It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. 
 Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. 

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[RBW] What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread WETH
MKS sneaker pedals with Merrell hiking shoes or Keen sandals.

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[RBW] Re: Pushing the Quickbeam envelope

2015-04-27 Thread hsmitham
Patrick,

Well done! With what you do in those conditions well I'm super impressed.

~Hugh

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[RBW] Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-27 Thread Pondero
Delightful photos!  I've been weather and work defeated in March and April, and 
starving for another quick overnighter.  Especially now.  Thanks for the poke 
in the side.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread Lungimsam
What do you all use?
Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles.
Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Daume
My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on
chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality.

My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still
looks great after six years)

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with
 slipping seatposts.

 This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on
 Rivendell's part.  If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from
 Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those
 framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense.

 I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it
 had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset.



 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:

 It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post.
 Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-27 Thread Hugh Smitham
Thanks Deacon. Feel spoiled. But nothing like the raw scenic beauty of your
haunts.

~Hugh
On Apr 27, 2015 7:18 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Fantastic trip! Those are some great looking roads and trails you got to
 ride.

 With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-27 Thread cyclotourist
Just a little moisture out there this weekend! The last two SoCal rides
just haven't been in the cards for me unfortunately. As always, looks to
have been a great time!

Drew, here's a route to/from O'Neil that Doug put together:
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7183179

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 Thanks Deacon. Feel spoiled. But nothing like the raw scenic beauty of
 your haunts.

 ~Hugh
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 Fantastic trip! Those are some great looking roads and trails you got to
 ride.

 With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Isn't it nice to go into a roadie or mtb thrasher shop and discover
that the crew love your old bikes? I'm glad that the problem was so easily
solved (and that it seems not to be a frame quality problem).

There is a high end bike shop a couple of miles from my mother's house
which I used to frequent, since I spent so much time with her. They sell
high end carbon fiber road and off road bikes -- Cervelos and such. But
when I brought my Sam Hill, various Riv customs, '58 Rene Herse, Ken
Rogers, and even my '84 Citroen Acadiane by, they all loved them. No sneers
at all, at all.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Kevin Lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Problem resolved (for now).
 The seatpost refusing to cooperate on my commute home, I stopped at Bike
 Pro, a very high-end bike shop in Georgetown at the foot of Key Bridge, to
 see if they had any friction paste that would at least hold the post in
 place until I got home.  Mind you, this is one of those establishments
 where you go to drop $10,000 on an S-Works, Project One, etc., so I wasn't
 expecting much of a reception with a Riv under tow.  I walked my bike in
 the front door and there, leaning against the far wall was...
 ...the only other Hunqapillar living in the D.C. area .  Talk in the shop
 stopped when I came in (the only thing missing was the sound of a
 scratching record) and one of the salespeople walked quickly to the back of
 the shop to fetch the tech, Keith, owner of the other Hunq, who also
 couldn't believe that a near-twin of his bike had just come into the shop.
  (To those not of the east coast, where Rivs are rarely seen, this was a
 coincidence of near astronomical proportions.)
 Long story short, he pulled the seatpost and confirmed that the tolerances
 were a bit loose, but that the chief culprit was the brake hanger, which
 was blocking the seat tube from tightening all the way.  He dremeled about
 1/16th of an inch from the tube slot, which allowed it to tighten
 sufficiently, applied a liberal helping of friction paste, and reset the
 post.  It seems to have done the trick; at least, the seat stayed in place
 for the remainder of my 15 miles home.
 To find a tech who's also a Hunq owner clearly showed the hand of God (a
 welcome sign in these uncertain times) :)
 Kevin

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:

 My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on
 chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality.

 My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still
 looks great after six years)

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with
 slipping seatposts.

 This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on
 Rivendell's part.  If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from
 Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those
 framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense.

 I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and
 it had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset.



 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:

 It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post.
 Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy.

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Re: [RBW] What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread Patrick Moore
A few years ago when I went back to clips 'n' straps for a couple of years,
I found that MKS GR-9s were the cat's pyjamas for riding in street shoes;
my street shoe of choice in summer is the boat shoe, and in colder weather,
the chukka boot (safari boot). (On my gofast, of course, I used very
cool, ancient Rivats with slotted cleats, and Kerin approved MKS track
pedals. Of course.)

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 What do you all use?
 Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles.
 Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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[RBW] Re: Finally... Albastache!

2015-04-27 Thread Surlyprof
Thanks, Reid.  Took it for a lunchtime spin.  The eggplant is definitely 
faster than black (and climbs better, too)!

John

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 1:41:06 PM UTC-7, Reid wrote:

 Oh yeah! The eggplant tape looks great on that bike. Much better than mere 
 black. Too cool.

 Reid



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Re: [RBW] How many rolls of Newbaums on 46cm Noodles?

2015-04-27 Thread Edwin W
I like Aaron's advice. Get a third and you'll always have some for those little 
projects that need a little. 

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
My feet.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread Matthew J
These new C Series 
http://www.newbalance.com/pd/c-series-600/CM600C-V1.html?gclid=CNGlrKXul8UCFQEEaQodh7cA1Aef_id=VT7kJAAABL9Kf0bs%3A20150428013636%3Asdwvar_CM600C-V1_color=BlackECID=ps_pla_pla_pr_269508#color=Blackwidth=D
 
from New Balance are pretty good.   They are stiff yet comfortable on the 
bike, pretty nice to walk in as well. 

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:39:17 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:

 What do you all use? 
 Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles. 
 Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-27 Thread drew
looks like a great time. i did an overnight to o'neill park a couple months 
ago. i rode down from long beach, and it was beautiful, but somehow i feel 
like i missed a lot of the trails you guys were on.  is there a route map 
somewhere, by any chance?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread James Warren
Amazing story.

And now as you get the joy of the Hunqapillar without that one irritation. I 
predict your fun on the bike quickly makes this whole topic vanish.

My theory is that that's why the slipping seatpost thing often gets a pass. 
Anytime I've had it, solutions came quickly, and then I quickly forgot that it 
worried me.

But the supernatural way your solution came is eerie this time.

Go back to the shop tomorrow, and you'll hear them say, Keith the mechanic. We 
don't have any Keith working here...


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Kevin Lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Problem resolved (for now).
 The seatpost refusing to cooperate on my commute home, I stopped at Bike 
 Pro, a very high-end bike shop in Georgetown at the foot of Key Bridge, to 
 see if they had any friction paste that would at least hold the post in place 
 until I got home.  Mind you, this is one of those establishments where you go 
 to drop $10,000 on an S-Works, Project One, etc., so I wasn't expecting much 
 of a reception with a Riv under tow.  I walked my bike in the front door and 
 there, leaning against the far wall was...
 ...the only other Hunqapillar living in the D.C. area .  Talk in the shop 
 stopped when I came in (the only thing missing was the sound of a scratching 
 record) and one of the salespeople walked quickly to the back of the shop to 
 fetch the tech, Keith, owner of the other Hunq, who also couldn't believe 
 that a near-twin of his bike had just come into the shop.  (To those not of 
 the east coast, where Rivs are rarely seen, this was a coincidence of near 
 astronomical proportions.)
 Long story short, he pulled the seatpost and confirmed that the tolerances 
 were a bit loose, but that the chief culprit was the brake hanger, which was 
 blocking the seat tube from tightening all the way.  He dremeled about 1/16th 
 of an inch from the tube slot, which allowed it to tighten sufficiently, 
 applied a liberal helping of friction paste, and reset the post.  It seems to 
 have done the trick; at least, the seat stayed in place for the remainder of 
 my 15 miles home.
 To find a tech who's also a Hunq owner clearly showed the hand of God (a 
 welcome sign in these uncertain times) :)
 Kevin
 
 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:
 My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on 
 chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality.
 
 My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still 
 looks great after six years)
 
 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote:
 I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with slipping 
 seatposts.  
 
 This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on 
 Rivendell's part.  If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from 
 Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those 
 framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense.  
 
 I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it had 
 the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset.  
 
 
 
 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:
 It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. 
 Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy.
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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Mc
for platform pedals, Merrill Proterra Sport

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:39:17 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:

 What do you all use? 
 Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles. 
 Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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[RBW] Re: Front Derailleur recomendations for A Homer Hilsen

2015-04-27 Thread hsmitham
I'm with Brian I run the XT that Riv sells. Happy with it. Richard I'd drop Riv 
a line and get their. 02. Good luck.

~Hugh


On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 8:37:37 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
 Dump the 105 and get an xt or a cx-70. 
 
 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Pushing the Quickbeam envelope

2015-04-27 Thread Deacon Patrick


It's a pretty steady climb, getting steeper toward the top, with one brief 
descent to speak of.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fjkFCoGsz-E/VT7f4IwqbzI/Ahc/T_j4goLFYYA/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-04-27%2Bat%2B7.17.43%2BPM.png




On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:10:12 PM UTC-6, Iron Rider wrote:

 Nice!  Was it a steady grade over the 10 miles or a series of stair step 
 climbs? 



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Re: [RBW] What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread cyclotourist
Speaking of which, I have two pair of Sneaker Pedals I would love to
trade for one pair of Grip Kings. Anyone in a position to trade?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/17295742645/

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:02 PM, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote:
 MKS sneakers or grip kings. Cheaper to get sneaker friendly pedals than get 
 new shoes. I used to suffer with the rat traps, even though they look so 
 nice, then just switched pedals and all my shoes work great. But to answer 
 your actual question, Keen Newport sandals have a nice stiff sole that worked 
 for me. They do slip around when wet and get hellishly stinky in the summer.

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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic trip! Those are some great looking roads and trails you got to 
ride. 

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Hillborne + Rock N' Roads + (woody) Fenders

2015-04-27 Thread Surlyprof
Gorgeous bike!  The wood fenders seem to go particularly well with the 
double top tube design.  If you ever have to refinish them, I've had great 
success with this company's bar top finish.  Nothing seems to penetrate 
it.  http://www.velvitproducts.com/details_polygel.html

John

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:08:38 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:

 Despite the fact that my Hillborne with Noodles and Barlow Pass tires is 
 the best bike ever, I've had a hankering to get the set of rock n' roads on 
 there for a ramble or three through the local off-roady trails. Being a 
 member of team fenders made this more of an engineering effort than it had 
 to be if I could have just allowed myself to yank the existing longboard 
 fenders off.

 I knew for sure I'd need to split the front fender into a front and rear 
 segment, as there would not be room for the fender to pass under the fork 
 crown. Having had Cody at woodysfenders.com make me a customer rear 
 chopped fender for my recent XOXO build, I thought it would be a good idea 
 to have him make and chop a front fender for me. I thought I might get away 
 without having to have a split rear fender, but I ordered some extra 
 hardware from Cody in case I had to split the fender myself. 

 I spent a bit of time this morning getting everything sorted, which 
 included having to cut the rear fender into two segments. I'm happy to now 
 have a befendered rock n' roaded Hillborne. There's a fair amount of 
 clearance, though I don't think I'll be doing any mud-bogging with any 
 success, but I don't suppose that's my style anyhow. Ride report is pending 
 some adventurous extracurricular commuting this week - for now, indoor pics:








 -Jeff
 Silver Spring, MD


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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Problem resolved (for now).
The seatpost refusing to cooperate on my commute home, I stopped at Bike 
Pro, a very high-end bike shop in Georgetown at the foot of Key Bridge, to 
see if they had any friction paste that would at least hold the post in 
place until I got home.  Mind you, this is one of those establishments 
where you go to drop $10,000 on an S-Works, Project One, etc., so I wasn't 
expecting much of a reception with a Riv under tow.  I walked my bike in 
the front door and there, leaning against the far wall was...
...the only other Hunqapillar living in the D.C. area .  Talk in the shop 
stopped when I came in (the only thing missing was the sound of a 
scratching record) and one of the salespeople walked quickly to the back of 
the shop to fetch the tech, Keith, owner of the other Hunq, who also 
couldn't believe that a near-twin of his bike had just come into the shop. 
 (To those not of the east coast, where Rivs are rarely seen, this was a 
coincidence of near astronomical proportions.)
Long story short, he pulled the seatpost and confirmed that the tolerances 
were a bit loose, but that the chief culprit was the brake hanger, which 
was blocking the seat tube from tightening all the way.  He dremeled about 
1/16th of an inch from the tube slot, which allowed it to tighten 
sufficiently, applied a liberal helping of friction paste, and reset the 
post.  It seems to have done the trick; at least, the seat stayed in place 
for the remainder of my 15 miles home.
To find a tech who's also a Hunq owner clearly showed the hand of God (a 
welcome sign in these uncertain times) :)
Kevin

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:

 My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on 
 chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality.

 My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still 
 looks great after six years)

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote:

 I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with 
 slipping seatposts.  

 This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on 
 Rivendell's part.  If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from 
 Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those 
 framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense.  

 I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it 
 had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset.  



 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:

 It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. 
 Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-27 Thread Hugh Smitham
Hi Drew,

Here's some Strava links showing our route.

From Irvine Station:

Check out my 13.7 mi Ride on Strava:
http://app.strava.com/activities/291958001

From near O'Neill. We road a few miles to a good breakfast place Latte Da
Bagelery on Plano Trabuco Rd. Then back tracked to jump on the dirt.

Check out my 20.8 mi Ride on Strava:
http://app.strava.com/activities/292418360

~Hugh
looks like a great time. i did an overnight to o'neill park a couple months
ago. i rode down from long beach, and it was beautiful, but somehow i feel
like i missed a lot of the trails you guys were on.  is there a route map
somewhere, by any chance?

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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread Justin August
Where did you get the irregulars from?

-J

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[RBW] Re: Front Derailleur recomendations for A Homer Hilsen

2015-04-27 Thread Richard Rios
Hi All,

Thanks to everyone who offered feedback, I will definitely be taking all 
your advice into consideration. :)  Hopefully I will be soon riding and 
shifting quietly along!

Sincerely,
Richard

On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 3:11:02 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am finding that I am having to trim my front derailleur to often for my 
 liking on my Homer Hilsen due to the chain rubbing on the cage.  I have a 
 Shimano 105 up front, with standard riv sugino cranks / chainrings, and 
 107bb I believe.  Wondering if any one else had this problem and if so did 
 a change in derailleur help. Friction shifting by the way.  Any suggestions 
 appreciated.


 Thanks,
 Richard


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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread cyclotourist
My Rockhound is a touch loose as well. I have to really crank down the
collar till the ears are touching. And paint is chippy.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote:

 My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on
 chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality.

 My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still
 looks great after six years)

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with
 slipping seatposts.

 This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on
 Rivendell's part.  If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from
 Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those
 framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense.

 I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it
 had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset.



 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:

 It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post.
 Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy.

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne + Rock N' Roads + (woody) Fenders

2015-04-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Beautiful fendered monstercross!

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jitensha bars for mountain bike?

2015-04-27 Thread David Yu Greenblatt

I don't have personal experience using the Jitensha flat bar off-road but I 
know several people who use or used them for MTB and cyclocross.

Here's Jesse Lalonde (singlespeed world champ) utilizing a Jitensha bar to good 
effect in a cross race: 

http://creepyfriendly.typepad.com/photos/2007_cx/efficiency.html

- David G in SD CA


 On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:59 PM, CMR cmillerrosa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't think these will be tough enough for mountain biking. Both from a 
 safety perspective, but also just too flexy that you would feel a big loss of 
 control.
 
 The Origin8 Space Bar OR is built for that type of riding and comes in silver 
 as well, although the bends aren't as graceful.
 

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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread Surlyprof
I posted a similar request regarding shoes with thin gripsters and got lots 
of great advice (
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/surlyprof$20shoes/rbw-owners-bunch/aVHSUQf7RRM/udfBHiIE_g8J).
  
I have slightly wider feet so some of the recommendations wouldn't work.  
Ended up buying Scarpa Mystic Lites (http://www.scarpa.com/mystic-lite).  
They have a little more of a hiking sole than I would like but the soles 
are stiffer than the sneakers I was using.  Next time I may try their 
approach shoe such as their Vitamin or Crux.  Seek out sales.  I found 
the Mystic Lites for $59.  Christopher Chen recommended Red Wing Chukkas.  
I actually stumbled across a pair of irregulars in black (postman shoes) 
for 40 bucks so I bought them.  Probably too dorky to wear with shorts 
(unless you are in uniform) but I have to admit, when I commuted to work in 
them, they were pretty awesome.  I may have to eat the full price of the 
tan or brown ones in the future.  Their website is offering a $20 off 
coupon if that helps.

John

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 5:39:17 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 What do you all use? 
 Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles. 
 Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread Brian Campbell
These Keens for warmer weather:

http://www.zappos.com/keen-cnx-ii-lace-mesh-tortoise-shell

These Keens for colder weather:

http://www.zappos.com/keen-koven-magnet-tawny-olive

Both work with the SOMA toe clips sold by Riv. My feet are size 11.5

 

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 5:39:17 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 What do you all use? 
 Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles. 
 Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.



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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-27 Thread Surlyprof
Justin,

They were at Nordstrom Rack of all places.  

John

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:31:26 PM UTC-7, Justin August wrote:

 Where did you get the irregulars from? 

 -J

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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Garth
Have you called someone at Riv who knows the ins and outs of these frames 
like Mark about this ?   

You may be able to file down the hanger you have very slightly to reduce 
it's thickness, if this is possible . I don't know which one they use and 
how thick it is so take this suggestion slightly. 

Surly also makes a cable hanger for the rear but I can't say it's any 
thinner . 

An alternative brake hanger altogether could be a Paul Funky Monkey 
seatpost mounted cable hanger . 


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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Kevin Lindsey
I plan to call Riv as soon as they open.  Given that this is a stock frame, 
and that I'm using a stock hanger and the seat post they recommend, I'm 
hoping that it's not a mechanical problem, but something I'm doing wrong.  
Otherwise, as I said, it's a terrific bike.
Kevin

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:

 Have you called someone at Riv who knows the ins and outs of these frames 
 like Mark about this ?   

 You may be able to file down the hanger you have very slightly to reduce 
 it's thickness, if this is possible . I don't know which one they use and 
 how thick it is so take this suggestion slightly. 

 Surly also makes a cable hanger for the rear but I can't say it's any 
 thinner . 

 An alternative brake hanger altogether could be a Paul Funky Monkey 
 seatpost mounted cable hanger . 




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[RBW] Re: Bags for small bike owners (48cm Hunqs, 47cm Sams, Atlanti, etc.)

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Mc
One more saddlebag option- all Acorn saddlebags, but especially the Large 
bag are designed to ride very tall above the rear wheel. 
 http://acorn-bag.myshopify.com/collections/all/products/large-saddlebag

On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 7:38:05 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 I still think the Nitto R12 is the answer to her original question.  
 https://www.benscycle.com/p-4354-nitto-r12-rear-bag-supporter.aspx  

 On my go-fast bike I use the discontinued Acorn tubular bag for all my 
 roadside - it's only open on the roadside, but carries fold-up, 2 tubes, 
 flat kit (Stans, Zap-a-Gap and valve cores), compliment of full-sized Allens


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aaaP6140003.jpg
   
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aaaP5180001.jpg

 My daughter and I both have Randi-Jo bartender bags on most of our 
 other bikes to carry wallet, cellphone, keys, a mini wrench for adjustments 
 and maybe a power bar


 On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 1:23:10 AM UTC-5, Ely Ruth Rodriguez wrote:

 How much stuff do you carry for a day ride and how do you want to access 
 that stuff?
 You could just use a smallish to medium front bag and medium rear bag.
 rear for repair stuff and things you dont access, front for stuff you 
 access. 
 But really, it depends on how you ride and how you want to use the bags, 
 everyone is different.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruthworkssf/16597621730/


 On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 9:31:32 AM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:

 I'm curious to know which bags small frame owners.  My saddle height on 
 the Hunq is low enough relative to the wheel that even a small saddlebag 
 cannot be run without a rack to hold it up off the tire (at least when 
 loaded and saggy).  Even a Carradice Bagman is too tall.  I think I tried a 
 Mark's rack and the tombstone hit the saddle rails.

 I've got a Brand V bar sack on there, but I need more space for day 
 rides.  Any ideas?  I'm really trying to avoid a rack as this is more of a 
 trail bike and I've got racks on my other bikes.

 I wonder if I could have someone modify a Carradice Bagman to shorten it 
 a little bit?




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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Just off the phone with Bryan at Riv.  He thought it might be a problem 
with the Waterford frame; apparently, the folks at Waterford get a bit 
sloppy with the tolerances.  His suggested choices are to use a Thompson 
seatpost instead of the Nitto or, as Bruce suggested, send the post back to 
Riv and they'll knurl it.  Unfortunately, the latter will take my Hunq out 
of circulation for 2-3 weeks; before I consider that, I'll check out the 
Thompson posts and see if there's a local machine shop that'll do my Nitto.
Sigh.  Nothing's easy.
Kevin


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 I had the same situation with my Sam Hillborne. I called Brian at Riv and 
 they were able to knurl the seatpost. Problem solved. You can have a 
 machine shop do it but I struggled to find that in San Diego.

 Good luck,

 Bruce

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then.


 On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to 
 spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID

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Re: [RBW] Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread James Warren

Is the seatpost a Nitto?

If not, put calipers on it. I once had an American Classic post that said 27.2 
mm but it was actually 27.1 mm. That was the only reason it slipped in the 
frame. If this doesn't apply to your situation, sorry to waste your time.

-Jim W.


On Apr 27, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Kevin Lindsey wrote:

 Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ miles 
 to work this morning.  Although still too early to tell, it has my very 
 favorite bike stamped all over it.
 With one possible exception:  I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping down. 
  Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is starting to 
 strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six times on the 
 ride in this morning to raise the seat back up.  Very frustrating.  I had 
 thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was interfering with the seat tube 
 somehow, but I don't see how that can be avoided, given the shape of the 
 hanger and the fact that it has to remain attached to the seatpost bolt.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem?
 Best to all,
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[RBW] Various items for sale

2015-04-27 Thread Clayton.sf
Hi All,

Few things for sale (free shipping to CONUS only. International will charge 
what it costs me):

-  Sacksville Saddlesack Large Tan. Excellent shape. $175 shipped

Nitto Noodle cockpit (there I said that word). Noodle 46cm, Dirt drop 80mm 
stem, Tiagra levers, purple tape shellacked and twined, velox plugs. 
Excellent condition. A shame to take appart. $150 shipped

Shimano CX 70 crankset. Rings are new. Arms have a few miles on them. 
Fantastic crankset. Only reason I am selling it because I use 165 now. $120 
shipped

Gevenalle GX shiftlevers. Like new. $170 shipped

Zipp SL-80 bars. Stealth black. 42cm $75

3T Ergoterra Pro bars. 42cm $70

Schwalbe Big Ben 700x50mm. Like new. $55 for the pair shipped.

Thanks,

Clayton Scott

SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Yep.  As Riv recommended, I installed a Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 x 250 
seat 
post.  
Kevin



On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:31:21 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:


 I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then.


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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread drew
i sort of doubt the hanger is the problem. seems like it should be clamping 
firmly before squeezing into the hanger. at any rate, the stock one they 
send is not great. the surly one is a bit longer which allows less kinking 
of the cable, and the loop that goes around the binder bolt is much 
narrower. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread James Warren

I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bags for small bike owners (48cm Hunqs, 47cm Sams, Atlanti, etc.)

2015-04-27 Thread David Stein
They also just released some black canvas ones this AM, I hear these sell
out quickly, within hours.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 One more saddlebag option- all Acorn saddlebags, but especially the Large
 bag are designed to ride very tall above the rear wheel.
 http://acorn-bag.myshopify.com/collections/all/products/large-saddlebag


 On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 7:38:05 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 I still think the Nitto R12 is the answer to her original question.
 https://www.benscycle.com/p-4354-nitto-r12-rear-bag-supporter.aspx

 On my go-fast bike I use the discontinued Acorn tubular bag for all my
 roadside - it's only open on the roadside, but carries fold-up, 2 tubes,
 flat kit (Stans, Zap-a-Gap and valve cores), compliment of full-sized Allens


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aaaP6140003.jpg

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aaaP5180001.jpg

 My daughter and I both have Randi-Jo bartender bags on most of our
 other bikes to carry wallet, cellphone, keys, a mini wrench for adjustments
 and maybe a power bar


 On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 1:23:10 AM UTC-5, Ely Ruth Rodriguez wrote:

 How much stuff do you carry for a day ride and how do you want to access
 that stuff?
 You could just use a smallish to medium front bag and medium rear bag.
 rear for repair stuff and things you dont access, front for stuff you
 access.
 But really, it depends on how you ride and how you want to use the bags,
 everyone is different.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruthworkssf/16597621730/


 On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 9:31:32 AM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:

 I'm curious to know which bags small frame owners.  My saddle height on
 the Hunq is low enough relative to the wheel that even a small saddlebag
 cannot be run without a rack to hold it up off the tire (at least when
 loaded and saggy).  Even a Carradice Bagman is too tall.  I think I tried a
 Mark's rack and the tombstone hit the saddle rails.

 I've got a Brand V bar sack on there, but I need more space for day
 rides.  Any ideas?  I'm really trying to avoid a rack as this is more of a
 trail bike and I've got racks on my other bikes.

 I wonder if I could have someone modify a Carradice Bagman to shorten
 it a little bit?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Bruce Smitham
I had the same situation with my Sam Hillborne. I called Brian at Riv and 
they were able to knurl the seatpost. Problem solved. You can have a 
machine shop do it but I struggled to find that in San Diego.

Good luck,

Bruce

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then.


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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to 
spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID

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Re: [RBW] How many rolls of Newbaums on 46cm Noodles?

2015-04-27 Thread Frank Brose
2 works but with no wiggle room.

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:18:13 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

 Two does it for my 46 Noodles, but just barely. There is none left over, 
 that's for sure.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Patrick Moore
I've used blue Loctite to solve this same problem, though I hear that the
green is made for it. Wipe grease off post, smear liberally, re-install,
wala! This on an undersized post that sank about 1 per 5 miles despite
overtightening the bolt and distorting the ears.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:18 AM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Before doing any un-reversable mods like knurling, I would seriously give
 this stuff a try:

 http://www.tacx.com/en/products/tools/carbon-assembly-compound

 YES, it's for carbon. NO your Rivendell will not explode if you use it.
 Clean the post and frame best you can to rid it of the grease. Apply this
 stuff, and go ride. I've had excellent luck with it and have started using
 it instead of grease.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Mc
Thomson was what was slipping so bad on my Moser

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/post.jpg

I would send the post back to Bryan for knurling


On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:12:22 PM UTC-5, Kevin Lindsey wrote:

 Just off the phone with Bryan at Riv.  He thought it might be a problem 
 with the Waterford frame; apparently, the folks at Waterford get a bit 
 sloppy with the tolerances.  His suggested choices are to use a Thompson 
 seatpost instead of the Nitto or, as Bruce suggested, send the post back to 
 Riv and they'll knurl it.  Unfortunately, the latter will take my Hunq out 
 of circulation for 2-3 weeks; before I consider that, I'll check out the 
 Thompson posts and see if there's a local machine shop that'll do my Nitto.
 Sigh.  Nothing's easy.
 Kevin


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:59:18 PM UTC-4, Bruce Smitham wrote:

 I had the same situation with my Sam Hillborne. I called Brian at Riv and 
 they were able to knurl the seatpost. Problem solved. You can have a 
 machine shop do it but I struggled to find that in San Diego.

 Good luck,

 Bruce

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then.


 On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being 
 to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID

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[RBW] Re: Various items for sale

2015-04-27 Thread Pondero
Clayton,

Just PMed you about the Saddlesack.

Chris Johnson
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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Before doing any un-reversable mods like knurling, I would seriously give 
this stuff a try:

http://www.tacx.com/en/products/tools/carbon-assembly-compound

YES, it's for carbon. NO your Rivendell will not explode if you use it.
Clean the post and frame best you can to rid it of the grease. Apply this 
stuff, and go ride. I've had excellent luck with it and have started using 
it instead of grease.

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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Ron Mc
agree, that looks like the first product to try 

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:18:21 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote:

 Before doing any un-reversable mods like knurling, I would seriously give 
 this stuff a try:

 http://www.tacx.com/en/products/tools/carbon-assembly-compound

 YES, it's for carbon. NO your Rivendell will not explode if you use it.
 Clean the post and frame best you can to rid it of the grease. Apply this 
 stuff, and go ride. I've had excellent luck with it and have started using 
 it instead of grease.



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Re: [RBW] Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-27 Thread Jason Hartman
I know the folks at Riv are nice people and all, but if your brand new
$2000 frame is out of spec, then the right thing to do is send it back and
get a new one with the correct tolerance. I could understand using such
workarounds on an old frame of unknown history, but on a new bike that's
totally unacceptable.
   I could almost understand if it were a Surly, or some other budget
frame, but it would still bother me.

Jay Hartman

On Monday, April 27, 2015, Kevin Lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just off the phone with Bryan at Riv.  He thought it might be a problem
 with the Waterford frame; apparently, the folks at Waterford get a bit
 sloppy with the tolerances.  His suggested choices are to use a Thompson
 seatpost instead of the Nitto or, as Bruce suggested, send the post back to
 Riv and they'll knurl it.  Unfortunately, the latter will take my Hunq out
 of circulation for 2-3 weeks; before I consider that, I'll check out the
 Thompson posts and see if there's a local machine shop that'll do my Nitto.
 Sigh.  Nothing's easy.
 Kevin


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:59:18 PM UTC-4, Bruce Smitham wrote:

 I had the same situation with my Sam Hillborne. I called Brian at Riv and
 they were able to knurl the seatpost. Problem solved. You can have a
 machine shop do it but I struggled to find that in San Diego.

 Good luck,

 Bruce

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then.


 On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being
 to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID

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[RBW] Re: WTB cheap 27inch or 700c wheelset

2015-04-27 Thread drew
hey chris, i sent you a pm

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[RBW] Re: Various items for sale

2015-04-27 Thread Clayton.sf
Saddlesack sold

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 10:23:30 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:

 Clayton,

 Just PMed you about the Saddlesack.

 Chris Johnson
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[RBW] Finally... Albastache!

2015-04-27 Thread Surlyprof
I've been wanting to try Albastache bars since I got my Hillborne.  Finally 
broke down and took the plunge this weekend.  I usually put down a layer of 
Newbaum's to strap the cables down before adding my Brooks leather tape.  
When I was at Rivendell purchasing the bars I had a wacky notion to buy the 
eggplant-colored Newbaum's instead of black or natural.  Now that it is on, 
I'm hesitant to put the Brooks tape back on!  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/17290439362/

John

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