[RBW] Re: ISO: 700C rear wheel for 135 spacing

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I sent you a PM.

On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 9:50:20 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks, Laing! 
>
> Everyone else: Now gladly considering *your *cast-off rear wheels with 
> 130mm spacing. 
>
> On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 5:01:07 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> It is highly unlikely that your 27' Mixte frame is 135 spacing. Are you 
>> planning to have the frame re-spaced? Mixtes (6 stays) are not as easy to 
>> just spread by hand and jam it in as a 4 stay bike. I know because I just 
>> put a modern wheel on an old Ross Carrera 27" Mixte (chrome-moly frame). If 
>> you are getting another wheel, a 130 would probably be easier to deal with 
>> and still available for 8/9 speed.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 4:44:12 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all – I'm working on a 27" to 700C conversion for my sweetie, it's an 
>>> olde SR mixte. Lugged steel, made in Japan, some cool hand striping but 
>>> nothing spectacular. Purchased by her mom new in San Diego in 1987.  
>>>
>>> I have a set of Velocity Synergy wheels which came off the used Sam 
>>> Hillborne I picked up last year. I had the wheels trued and never rode 
>>> them. They sat in my shed untouched waiting for a project. 
>>>
>>> With my build underway I took the rear wheel off the wall. When I put it 
>>> on my bench the rear cassette fell off. I mean, it just fell off and onto 
>>> my bench. The axle had sheared. After taking it to my LBS and sending 
>>> pictures to Rich Lesnik we've determined the hub cannot be repaired. 
>>>
>>> So I am seeking a rear wheel with 135mm spacing, something that can fit 
>>> a 33mm tire and a Shimano 8/9 speed cassette. 
>>>
>>> If have something that fits my bill, please let me know! I'm an hour 
>>> south of DC and willing to take a drive a bit to avoid shipping. 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>> [image: unnamed.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I was a webmaster (of sorts) for a while, so I know how tough it can be to 
redesign a page or site.  Thanks for your work.   I took a quick look 
around the site just now.   I don't mind the general look, but the search 
function, in particular, needs looking at.  I went to "Brakes" and searched 
for brake shoes.  It came back with a few products, including whole 
brakes.  I know that you carry Kool Stop shoes, because I just looked at 
them recently.  But no Kool Stop came back with the first search.  When I 
just searched "Kool Stop", I got the Kool Stop products.  So this is not 
good.  I would prefer that there be subcategories, i.e. click on Brakes, 
then get another menu for the various items people might search for 
pertaining to Brakes.  I hope these comments are helpful.  Cheers, Steve

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:54:02 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> My first desktop impression in navigating it is "awkward".  Some large 
> images, some small. 2 columns only, lots of empty white space. On product 
> pages the product detail font is oddly small/compressed/faint in relation 
> to the title font and large images. I find it an awkward . 
>
>
> I prefer seeing more items on one page, utilizing the available space with 
> content, not plain white background. I can see plain white background 
> anywhere. 
>
> The 3 bar thing for desktop websites is to me not a good look or function. 
> It seems as web design and function professes to progress/improve/evolve, 
> it does the very opposite. It's like jumping out the bedroom window and 
> walking around the block to get to the kitchen. 
>
> "Just the facts"  ... so to speak. 
>
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone, 
>>
>> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
>> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
>> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
>> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>>
>> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
>> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have one 
>> site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just head 
>> to the homepage.
>>
>> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
>>
>> Dave Schonenberg
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My First Riv - c.2016 Sam H - Help needed for Newbie

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Just a note on cutting cable housing:  If you already have a Dremel tool, 
they work great to cut housing with a standard cutting wheel.  Definitely 
invest in a real cable cutter if you don't have one.   Good luck on your 
build!

On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 6:16:30 PM UTC-5 dougP wrote:

> Not a required tool, but Park's triangular multi-allen tool is 
> invaluable.  4, 5, & 6 mm keys mounted on a hub that makes the two you 
> aren't using a handle so you can put on enough force to get things tight.  
> Also a real cable housing cutter.  You can cut housing with ordinary wire 
> cutters but it crushes it into an oval & leaves a jagged end.  Spring for 
> the real deal.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 8:10:05 AM UTC-8 bria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all, 
>>
>> Long time lurker here. I just purchased by first Riv frame. It's a c.2016 
>> Sam H 51cm. 
>>
>> I'm looking to build this out to be solid all-rounder, keeping very 
>> classic styling w/ all its parts. Wanna avoid snake oil purchases– will 
>> spend $$$ where truly needed. Also– will be doing my own 
>> assembly/maintenance for lack of a LBS nearby. 
>>
>> I realize this is a lot to ask from you knowledgeable folks– so any help 
>> is very much appreciated. 
>>
>> HERE 
>> 
>>  is 
>> a list of tools I already own/list of components I'm looking to buy. Any 
>> and all notes/recs are welcome. Along with any personal tips on assembly. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Left the (Brooks) Fold for a Bit, but I'm Back Now

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

In an effort to (ahem) lighten my Bleriot a bit, I switched saddles.  I'm 
not trying to go faster, but I do carry the bike down and up a half-flight 
of stairs for every ride, and a full flight to the basement for any 
maintenance.  I thought that the Brooks B-17, at over a pound, might be a 
logical place to save weight.  I got a Charge Spoon saddle after reading 
some reviews.  I had also asked for feedback on that saddle on this or the 
iBob list and got a favorable response.  The price was right and it weights 
about half of what the Brooks weighs.  So today I had my first and only 
ride on it.  It hurt my bones.  Perhaps I could get used to it, but why 
bother when I have a perfectly comfortable and beautiful B-17 honey?  I 
don't have much padding back there so maybe that's the problem.  The Spoon 
has a central channel and rather high firm ridges next to the channel.  
Other people seem to like them; you know how individual saddle choice can 
be.  Anyway, it comes off tomorrow and I'll be glad to see the Brooks back 
on the Bleriot.  I'll keep the Spoon for the time being in case my kids 
want to try it.  If anyone is curious about what this saddle feels like, 
get in touch with me and maybe we can work out a trial.  Good riding, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Back In The Riv Saddle With A '98 Custom Starck-Riv

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's a great-looking bike and a nice build, Paul.  I'm sure you will get 
the post-build kinks out in time for the second ride.  Enjoy your new Riv!


On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 1:32:31 PM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> So I actually got a reasonable ride yesterday on this puppy. Evidence of 
> late-night/rookie misses was the twisty/sliding saddleundertightened 
> binder bolt, and the handlebars rotating downward drastically on the first 
> hard stop---undertensioned stem. The stem was a minor issue because it's a 
> Dura-Ace stem, which requires a long/thin 6mm wrench to reach the short 
> internal bolt. That leaves you with the short end of an L-wrench hanging 
> out the back, which is very difficult to torque to spec. Fortunately I had 
> a small 9-10mm wrench with one end closed, so I could use that for added 
> torque. 
>
> Then I had a flat about 3min from home, too close to bother with a 
> roadside fix, so I ignominiously walked it home despite having all the 
> repair fixin's in my bag. The lightweight tube had punctured due to older 
> hardened velox tape leaving too deep a scoop above the spoke ferrules, 
> which I didn't discover till after the longish walk home, but that meant if 
> I had repaired it on the road, I would have had to redo it when I got home 
> anyway to replace the rim tape. I do remember during assembly thinking I 
> should probably replace that rim tape, but when it's late and I'm tired I 
> usually think that inner voice is stupid. Did the rear at home, in the 
> stand, still oughta replace the front rim strip as well. Cleaned up some 
> somewhat oxidized spoke nipples while I was at it.
>
> Seat/handlebar slips and flat rear tire followed by a walk home. You know 
> what? All in all it was still a very nice ride
>
> Riv rides good. Didn't particularly "feel fast," yet I made very good 
> time. It corners faster than I expected, not at all a bad thing. The 30mm 
> actual width Soma SV SLs felt great, until the rear flat.
>
> It felt like it wanted to shimmy pretty quickly if I took my hands off the 
> bars, but then I remembered the front wheel dish was way off, and...I 
> hadn't dealt with that.
>
> I guess that's what shakedown rides are for.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 2:11:28 PM UTC-4, Paul Brodek wrote:
>>
>> Actually, come to think of it, if it was mine there's always the 
>> possibility there was an intermediary caretaker between me and Trevor.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the color was considered a Burnt Orange. Frame size was 
>> 58.5cm square c-c, def a bit lower than I like. There were some paint flaws 
>> down near the seat tube bottle bosses that were sanded away, visible in the 
>> naked frame photos.
>>
>> I have nothing against simplicity, but I think I like the curlier head 
>> lugs on the '95 Road better than the simpler lines on the Starck.
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-4, Paul Brodek wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for linking it, Peter. If Trevor has it now, it went from Peter 
>>> to me to Trevor.
>>>
>>> Peter asked me earlier offlist if the frame had been a little small for 
>>> me, and looking at my notes on the frame dims I said probably not. But now 
>>> looking at the built pix on flickr, yeah, definitely closer to "a little 
>>> too little" for me.
>>>
>>> All I've managed with the new Starck Riv so far is a coupla 
>>> round-the-block sweeps, which it handled nicely. I detected slight notes of 
>>> lemongrass, with a subtle smoky finish.
>>>
>>> Paul Brodek
>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 1:57:12 PM UTC-4, Peter Bridge wrote:

 On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 9:12:30 AM UTC-7 foolis...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Paul I might have your Riv. What color was it? Size?


 From my vague memory, kinda caramel maybe?  Maybe with an area that had 
 been sanded on the down tube?  Can't remember the color of the head tube.  
 Unless PB2 repainted it.

 Oh here we go, it's on Paul's flickr: 

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/albums/72157637897698005 

 ~pb1   

>>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO / WTT / WTB: Lezyne Road Drive pump, short or medium

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Patrick, I have an SKS Supershort, *missing the chuck*, that's about 6.5"  
Also have a cheap Giyo plastic mini, complete, about 9".  You can have them 
both for shipping cost, if you think you can find a chuck for the SKS.  I 
see that Riv now sells another SKS mini, but its out of stock.  You are 
welcome to these.  Let me know and I can take pix if you want.  I don't 
know if I ever used the SKS on the road, probably not.  Cheers, Steve


On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:14:42 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Arrgghh! I left my expensive Road Drive on the bike path just now. Before 
> I pay full retail, does anyone have one of the ~9" or one of the ~7" ones 
> to sell/trade? 
>
> I know that some of you hate these pumps, so I hope that one of you such 
> will have one that you are very eager to sell on good terms.
>
> Can trade for an Impero -- fits 57 cm tt -- with Campy head ... And 
> probably have some other things.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: beautifying beausage: caring for worn paint

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

With regard to the right chainstay paint damage, why not wrap, twine and 
shellac it?  My Bleriot came to me from its previous owner that way.  This 
is purported to be yellow cloth handlebar tape with several coats of red 
shellac.  

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 2:23:30 PM UTC-4, Matthew P wrote:
>
> While on the topic of paint, what does one do, other than just enjoy it, 
> when the bike's paint has "plenty of beausage"?
>
> I'm building an Atlantis whose paint has some wear.  The areas where the 
> chain ate the paint are really the problem, although perhaps my approach 
> helps protect those places.
>
> There are spots on this frame where it looks like you can see the 
> clearcoat separate from the paint underneath.  I'd just like for those 
> parts to blend a little better and give the paint an overall cleaner look, 
> just "smooth things out" if possible.  Not repaint.  Not even touch it up 
> (although I am interested in getting some Atlantis Russian submarine 
> interior green touch up paint, if the people in the know see this).
>
> I'm thinking I'll try waxing it, which would at least protect the paint & 
> metal some, if it doesn't make it look better.  
>
> I assume a rubbing compound would be too much, would strip away too much 
> clear coat and paint.
>
> Would a buffing compound be appropriate?
>
> I have little experience with paint care, clearly.
>
> Thanks.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>

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[RBW] Re: A Family Clementine

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Just beautiful.  Thank you.

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 1:54:44 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Dear Friends, 
>
> In 2015, my husband needed a new bike. Providence would have it that 
> Rivendell was making something totally new, and very affordable: their 
> now-famous and highly-acclaimed Clem and Clementine. My husband got one of 
> those lovely creamy blue Clems, and when his mother heard about it, she 
> asked me to order her a Clementine. “I’d like it in burgundy,” she said. 
>
> “It doesn’t come in burgundy,” I said. “You get aqua.” 
>
> “Ok,” she said, “Tell them I want burgundy.” 
>
> With that squared away, I asked her what kinds of accoutrements she’d like 
> her Burgundy Clementine to have. “When you call them, tell them I want 
> everything. Just get everything,” she said. 
>
> This is just classic. She does nothing halfway, and when she said she 
> wanted everything, she meant it. This was accomplished via phone in a 
> conversation that lasted 2 hours. I had to read every product on the 
> website over the phone to her, and put it in the cart at her direction. It 
> was a large order, and it was right before Christmas, if I remember right. 
> I think I even put a note on the order that said, “No, this is not a fake 
> order.”  It was done and now we had the excitement of waiting for her new 
> bike, which I would not get to see until summer. In her determination to go 
> whole hog, my MIL found Rivendell’s website and decided to call the elves 
> there herself. She made another order. A huge order. And when 6 months 
> later we arrived at her house, she had Rivendell swag for everyone! All 
> four grandkids wore their Riv caps. Reflective triangles galore. Clem Smith 
> tee shirts in several sizes. Water bottles, pins, bandanas. We had it all 
> and we wore it all like Dobby the house elf from Harry Potter, and we were 
> the fanciest family cyclers in all of Beltrami County. We rode to ice 
> cream, rode around the lake, hit the local parks. We took photos, greeted 
> the neighbors, zoomed over bridges and pedaled through the cute little 
> business district in town. My MIL never pedaled but with a giant grin on 
> her face and *always* on the wrong side of the road. 
>
> We had 2 really great summers of riding together before it all went wrong. 
> Just two. I wish I had taken more photos. I wish we had ridden more miles. 
> I won’t go into details here, but my fun-loving, zany, whimsical mother in 
> law is no longer herself. She now resides in assisted living and will never 
> be able to ride her pretty Clementine again. Her Clementine has sat in her 
> garage since May of 2018. On my Annual Great Northern Road Trip this 
> summer, I drove up to see her, and while I was there, I rescued her 
> Clementine from it’s life sentence to the garage. But for two blemishes on 
> the head tube and one fork blade, the bike is mint. Well, it’s aqua, but 
> it’s MINT. 
>
> Since getting it, I’ve decided I LOVE the Clementine. I love every single 
> thing about it. Everything. I love that this bike belonged to my MIL first 
> and that we set it up together. I love the memories we have on these bikes. 
> There should have been more. 
>
> I always wanted a bike with Rivendell’s latest philosophy (fat tires, 
> chainstays for days, etc). It just hums - HUMS - along the road. I shall 
> fear no gravel, as it has no power over my new super tires. It just oozes 
> charm and class and the shape of the step-through frame is exquisite. It’s 
> got those fun thumbie shifters and even has Brooks grips - how in the world 
> did she ever find and order a pair of those?! Also, everyone loves the 
> “burgundy” (read: aqua) color. 
>
> Sincerely, 
> Leah, who suddenly has the strangest urge to ride on the left-hand side of 
> the road... 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Where does "country biking" fit in?

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Well, I probably look mostly like a "Lycra clad", but I'm actually an 
"Elderly person cycling as they have always done".  On my Bleriot.  Go 
figure.


On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 4:10:14 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Another man's cycling typology. 
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Wait, there's more!!
>
> https://cyclingcartoons.com/
>
> -- 
>
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And 
> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
> --- J.R.R. Tolkien
> ---
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[RBW] Re: 650B wheels?

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

As an (admittedly heavier) alternative to the Pacenti rims, Velo Orange has 
their Diagaonale rims on sale for about $45.  These are nice looking rims, 
I have them on my Bleriot and they have been fine on the road and the 
somewhat rough C canal towpath.  Cheers, Steve


On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 5:51:47 PM UTC-4, Carla Waugh wrote:
>
> I can’t decide about wheels and might rather do a set for my 650B bike. I 
> would be using it for light gravel, dirt and road. If you have suggestions 
> on hubs and rims please  let me know. My shop would be building them. 

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[RBW] Re: Got my 61 Roadini set up!

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Matt, Congratulations on your new Riv!  If I was buying a new one right 
now, I would certainly go for the Roadini.  I can't comment too much on 
your stem issue, lots of folks on here are more expert.  I would just say, 
don't be necessarily wed to the Noodles.  There are lots of drop bars out 
there, with lots of variation in depth and reach.  Maybe you could 
experiment with some from the co-op.  As for tape, I've always found that 
blue tape looks just great with an orange bike, you can find plenty of pix 
of that combination around, especially on the Riv sites.  I certainly 
understand building on a budget.  Best of luck to you!

On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 12:12:40 AM UTC-4, Matt D wrote:
>
> First Rivendell, first real drop bar road bike. Could have gotten a 
> complete Surly for the price but I knew I'd wish I had bought a Rivendell 
> so I ordered the frameset sight-unseen after an extremely enlightening 
> conversation on sizing with one of the guys at HQ. Set it up with parts 
> from the bike co-op for the moment because most of my budget went into 
> frameset but the plan is to upgrade it a little over time. For now it's 
> fine if a little low on range and comfort with the old Fizik Vitesse 
> saddle, Exage 300 group, 46 single and 13-25 cassette. The rest... tires 
> are 32c Gravelking slicks, wheels are Alexrims G6000s on Tiagra hubs, 
> shifters are Ultegra bar-ends, and pedals are Raceface Chesters. By the 
> time I consider myself "finished" with this build I don't want a single 
> matte black anodized part on it.
>
> Anyway, just a few questions about setup:
>
>
>- I've got a Sakae SA double with 52/40 chainrings sitting on my desk, 
>pretty sweet looking classic silver crank. VeloBase says it's made for a 
> 3P 
>bottom bracket, which is 119mm. Riv website says the Roadini ships with a 
>110mm Shimano BB. 9mm difference is going to be out of the question for 
>chainline, correct? If so, I can just replace it with a 119mm spindle BB 
>without any major issues, right? I'm having some issues finding one of 
>those, if one of you could point me to one it would be much appreciated.
>
>
>- What's the best way to determine your optimum quill stem length? 
>I've got a 110mm Sunlite adjustable quill on there right now, and coupled 
>with 44cm Nitto Noodles I find myself a little too stretched out on the 
>hoods. The plan was always to work out my optimal stem length with the 
>adjustable (this being my first drop bar after all) but I have to tilt the 
>stem higher than I want to bring it in any closer.
>
>
>- What color bar tape looks best with gum hoods and an orange frame? 
>I'm kind of stuck and I need to decide on something. It's a little far off 
>because I need to install that bottom bracket before I put on bar tape but 
>I'm thinking dark brown. I know the tradition is to match it to your 
> saddle 
>but since there are so few Brooks dealers in my town I may just go 
>synthetic, in which case I don't want monochrome tape because that's 
>terribly boring. If anyone's got something that they think looks great on 
>their orange Roadini I'd love to see it!
>
> Thanks for any advice you can give me!
>

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[RBW] Re: Bike Shop Recs DC Area

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Visit College Park Bicycle in (where else?), College Park, MD.  They are a 
long-established shop, eclectic, and used to be a Riv dealer.  Have always 
been very friendly to me.  Have a good trip! Steve

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 10:26:04 AM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> I'm visiting the DC area with the family.  Any suggestions for cool shops? 
>  Also might go to Baltimore for a day.

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[RBW] Re: Bikes = Likes

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Great story, great observations, Leah.  You are such an inspiration to 
those around you, and to us here.  Than may sound corny, but it's true!
Steve

On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 2:15:37 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
>
>
> As cyclers (Grant’s word!), it often feels like nobody likes us. You don’t 
> need me to expound on this; you know how you’ve had to fight for your 
> little piece of the road. But I have had the strangest experiences of late 
> - diametric opposites from the norm. I’m garnering favor BECAUSE I am on a 
> bike. I’ll start with the most recent and work backwards. 
>
> My middle-school aged son had his birthday party today. I did not know P, 
> but my son really wanted P to come along. It was rather last minute, and I 
> didn’t really think P’s mother would let him attend on account of us having 
> never met. I had my son pass along my cell phone number to the parents. 
> They never called, but they granted permission for P to come with me to the 
> party. As I watched the boys jump at the trampoline park, I decided I would 
> sent the photos I’d been taking and say hello via text. P has an 
> anaphylactic tree nut allergy and as a mother/registered nurse, I can 
> imagine P’s mother’s anxiety. She texted me back and she told me this was 
> the FIRST TIME P had been allowed out without his parents. “But you’re the 
> one on the bike! I’ve been watching you bike to school with your boys for 
> years.” 
>
> 2. That same son was begging for his new buddy TJ to come over one day. TJ 
> is an only child with adoring parents who are wise enough to say ‘not until 
> we meet his mother’. The boys wanted to play basketball at the park, so 
> TJ’s dad came to meet me there. After the introduction we both stared for a 
> few seconds, feeling a recognition. “Hey, you ride your bike to school 
> every day, right? I used to volunteer and direct the traffic at school!” It 
> snapped into place for me, too, and I couldn’t believe I’d forgotten that. 
> As soon as he recognized me, he had no qualms about sending TJ home with us 
> for the day. 
>
> 3. A couple months ago, I convinced my two athletic friends to ride bike 
> with me all the way into town for coffee. The ride home is straight up the 
> mountain for an elevation gain of 900+ feet in only a few miles. It’s a 
> feat and when we made it to our coffee shop, the owner of the business next 
> door came rushing out, “I’ve been watching you ride your bike to school for 
> YEARS! You have two boys, right? What are you doing all the way down HERE? 
> Oh, let me watch the bikes for you. I’ll keep them right here so you can go 
> have coffee.” He did just that, and when we came to retrieve our bikes, he 
> had handfuls of free goodies from his eyeglass store. I almost wish I 
> needed glasses now - take my money! 
>
> Now don’t you find this interesting? I see it as a triad: 1. Being seen 
> nearly every day. When someone is familiar to you, you can’t help but like 
> them. At least that’s what they taught me in my psych classes in college. 
> 2. Being with kids. The presence of children transforms me from a perfect 
> stranger into someone warm and nurturing. 3. A bike that is romantic and 
> dreamy. Would I get the same reception if I was in spandex, helmeted atop a 
> drop-bar road bike? I don’t think so, because most folks can’t relate. 
> Roadies are a small group. But nearly everyone enjoys the sight of a pretty 
> bike with swept-back bars and a basket rolling along. Because nearly 
> everyone has had that very experience, probably as a child. It just looks 
> HAPPY. 
>
> Included are some photos of us laden with all the school things, so you 
> know what the neighborhoods are seeing. Pictured is my old and beloved 
> Betty Foy, my son’s 45 Clem H, and the Red Rocket (Specialized Hotrock to 
> you). 
>
> And if anyone else has similar experiences of being liked for their bike, 
> I’d love to hear them! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: rivendell for 77pbh (complete or frame)

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm about 78 PBH and I have a 51 Bleriot the I find to be just about 
ideal.  You might want to look for one of those.  They are out there, but a 
bit hard to find.  I found mine on eBay in 2011.  Sorry, mine is not for 
sale nor will be for quite some time, I hope!  Good luck with your search, 
be patient, and be sure and post pix here when you find your bike!
Steve

On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 1:33:53 AM UTC-4, Beibhinn Dooling wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have been lurking this forum for a while and am interested in seeing if 
> there is anyone out there thinking of selling their Rivendell. My pbh is 77 
> and I would be looking for an Atlantis, Clem L, Cheviot or Sam Hillborne. I 
> am currently riding a 60cm Cheviot that I scored for a sweet deal. The 
> seatpost is slammed with a 70cm stem/billie bars and while it works, it 
> feels so large that I don't have great control at low speeds or in tricky 
> off-road situations. It is also in the orange color scheme which I do not 
> love as much as Rivendell's other offerings. I am hoping to find a complete 
> that I can purchase and then sell my 60cm as a complete shortly afterwards. 
> Direct from riv would be ideal but as student currently in nursing school, 
> its just not feasible for me right now. 
>
>
> If anyone reading this has something they would be interested in passing 
> on to someone that will cherish it daily, don't hesitate to reach out 
> privately with details and a price in mind. 
>
> Thanks all,
> Beibhinn Dooling
> (located in bay area)
>

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[RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!

['islaysteve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Greetings Patrick and everyone, I'm not as much of a coffee enthusiast as 
many here, but I'll offer my experiences and observations for what they're 
worth.  
Grinders:  I've been using a Krups $50-$60 burr grinder for many years.  
Got the original one from Bloomingdales, that one was replaced under 
warranty several years into service and the current one is still going 
strong.  The upper burr is replaceable for a reasonable price.  I like it 
that I can start the grind, then leave it on the counter to change filters, 
pour water, etc.  Now I know it's not good for super fine grinding, for 
espresso.  That's fine with me.  Those grinders seem to cost many times as 
more.  When i thought mine was on the blink a while back (it wasn't), I 
found a similar one at Target for about $30.  Not sure what the differences 
were between my old one and this new generation.
Storing:  I usually buy 2 lb. bags of beans at Costco or Safeway.  I put 
about a pound's worth, blended, into a semi-airtight container on the 
counter and store the bags in the basement, rolled closed and rubber-banded 
(no freezing).  Seems to work fine and still make good coffee, Deacon's and 
others' comments on freshness duly noted.
Coffee making:  Water temp is important.  If this has already been brought 
up in the thread, I apologize.  I finally splurged and treated myself to a 
Technivorm drip coffee maker.  Had wanted one for years.  It brews to the 
proper temp, I believe around 205 degree F.  I also make pourovers for 
myself regularly, using a $3 Melitta cone holder.  (The Technivorm is fun 
to watch.)  Cheers and Happy St Patrick's Day to all, especially the 
Patricks!

 


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[RBW] Re: Nitto R-10

[islaysteve]

Great looking installation, Matt!

On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 3:34:51 PM UTC-5, Matt wrote:
>
> The one bit on my Ram I've reshuffled the most is the saddlebag. I told 
> myself I didn't mind the bag hitting my legs, until I couldn't tell myself 
> I didn't mind it anymore. I tried the Super C wedge years ago, then I went 
> back to transverse, can't remember why. I even had a silver hupe for a 
> minute. Most recently I gave the Bagman a try but with a Brooks saddle, you 
> have to set it all the way back for the Bagman to attach and on long rides 
> that position wasn't tenable. Somehow during all that time, I missed the 
> Nitto R-10. Looks like it could be the final solve. The supports are 
> supposed to attach mid stay but the Ram only has high ones for a 
> traditional big rack. If I can avoid the look of p-clamps, I'll do it, so 
> yesterday's project was cutting and bending them to fit:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/n2Qrr9s6gVoqWurCA
>
> Turned out pretty well! I could spend time getting the curves more 
> symmetrical and the ends straighter on but it fits and it's not a ton of 
> tension and I like the look. True test is next weekend in the mountains.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

[islaysteve]

This seems like the best possible outcome for you and your family.  So glad 
that it worked out, after all of this planning and discussion!  Enjoy the 
rest of your stay in California!


On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 7:38:47 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> We had the best time biking the Marvin Braude bike path on Saturday! The 
> rains hammered Los Angeles on Friday night, but by morning it was clear 
> skies and sunny, perfect for our purposes. 
>
> I brought my 55 cm Betty Foy and my 12 year old boy brought his 45 Clem H. 
> My husband loves a motorcycle and not so much a bicycle, so we rented him 
> an e-bike, and because my other son is little and wouldn’t make the length 
> of the trail, we got the TANDEM E-BIKE. Yes, I said tandem. We rented it 
> from Pedego in Marina del Rey, and the owners would only charge us $50 
> instead of their normal $100 - such nice folks. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: And now, the annual Betty Foy Valentine thread!

[islaysteve]

Love it!  Thanks for sharing your beautiful bike, and hearts, once again.  
Happy Valentines Day!


On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 11:38:59 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Happy Valentine’s Day, 2019! 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Leah Peterson  > wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 14, 2017, at 8:40 PM, LeahFoy > 
> wrote:
>
> I *think* I did this last year. If not, it's now an annual thing - we must 
> accept it. Here's TBBITW (The Best Bike in the World), adorned with red 
> hearts in her lugs, shown portaging a small, furry, white Valentine of 
> sorts. For V-Day, she's getting new tires. Also a new chain if Bill has his 
> way. 
>
> Let's hope the photos don't show sideways again.
>
> Happy Valentine's Day! Lugs and hearts and dogs forever! 
>
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Refresh

[islaysteve]

That is a very, very nice paint job (and frame)!  I don't think I've seen a 
gold Riv before, but it works very well with the cream head tube.  
Excellent choice.  Have fun building it, and of course riding it.  Steve


On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 4:37:49 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Let me know if this one is better:
>
>   https://photos.app.goo.gl/5pMUAKTpHnkArUKs7
>
>  I used the "create link" function this time.  Put the headset on 
> yesterday afternon and re-united the fork and frame between the end of work 
> and getting to a history class.
>
>   
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Timeline

[islaysteve]

I updated the Bleriot info that I had added yesterday with colors: 
Turquoise & Cream, and added a link to cyclofiends's Bleriot page.  This 
caused the row to expand to two lines.  If that is a problem, please feel 
free to change it.  I also didn't know how to rename the link.  Thanks, 
Steve


On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 1:40:55 PM UTC-4, Roger wrote:
>
> I added a note that Appaloosa was first available in March of 2016. 
>
> I think Appaloosa was, like the various iterations of the name Roscoe 
> Bubbe/Boscoe Rubbe, a name that was floating around for awhile waiting to 
> be paired with a bike concept that was going to move forward into 
> production.The original use of the name in print predated its use as what 
> we now know as Appaloosa by several years.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[islaysteve]

I guess I'd have to say Golden Age with qualifications.  I was aware of Riv 
in 1995 when I was re-awakening to cycling, but I was a roadie/weight 
weenie then.  I appreciated the beauty of Rivs and Waterfords, but the 
price absolutely put them beyond my reach.  I ended up with a Performance 
lugged steel, 105-equipped road bike, later traded up to a Ti frame of same 
brand, and was happy as a clam for several years.  I became re-aware (is a 
word, no?) of Riv around 2010.  I embraced most of the Riv philosophy and 
soon fell in love with Sam Hillbornes.  Obsessed, lusted after one.  
Thrilled when Velouria of Lovely Bicycle got one and wrote extensively 
about it.  Started falling a bit out of love as the prices for the Sam not 
only increased, but became differentiated by size/country of manufacture.  
I am small (50/51/52), and felt penalized because those were made by 
Waterford and therefore more expensive.  I still believe that this was a 
poor decision by Riv, but whatever.  My ever-supportive wife gave the green 
light to a Sam frame in late 2010 despite the high cost.  I looked to eBay 
to see if I could get a break.  I almost bid on a Ram (in hindsight, I'm a 
bit sorry that I didn't), but then found a 51 cm Bleriot.  Perfect size but 
I had never heard of a Bleriot.  Quick research convinced me that this 
could the one.  Cut to the chase, I won the bit through deep pockets and a 
bit of strategy.  I had some financial leeway by then.  Paid a bit more 
than the original Bleriot retail, but still less than a new Sam.  Got the 
frame, loved it, built it up, and have been happily (if too infrequently) 
riding it ever since.  In reality, it is probably the perfect bike for me.

However, are we ever satisfied?  Since I've been riding mostly on the road, 
and mostly unladen, I thought it would be nice to build up a go-fast 
again.  Tried to do that with my Ti frame, even moving parts over from the 
Bleriot to do a quickie 650b conversion, but no dice.  I found that the Ti 
frame, with it's higher bottom bracket, is not longer comfortable for me 
(mounting/dismounting issues for an old man).  So the Bleriot has spoiled 
me and I'm not sorry.  Lum's recent posting about finding his forever bike 
in a Roadeo has me lusting for one.  If I could trade, or afford one, I 
would get a Roadeo.  But then I wouldn't have the allround versatility of 
the Bleriot.  I still have a bit of weight-weeniness in me.  I've 
considered putting a lighter saddle on the Bleriot and thus making the one 
cheap significant weight cut possible.  Anyway, the is my longwinded answer 
to the open-ended question.  Thanks for asking.  Cheers, Steve


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[RBW] Re: Donated bike; intrepid recipient; request for equipment donations

[islaysteve]

Patrick, I have a 16T SS sprocket (Shimano) that I can send to you.  PM me 
with address if you're interested.
Steve Alkire


On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:37:33 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Matthew picked up the bike (Nashbar ss 29er mtb) this evening and took it 
> downtown to Jerome, who as I said just started a laborer's job with the 
> City of Albuquerque. He'd been walking all over town looking for work.
>
> Jerome has no money, even for the bus, and is too shy to ask for help, so 
> he walks 8.5 miles across town on Central Ave./Rt. 66 from Louisiana NE to 
> Coors NW, each way. Work ends at 3, so it must start at 7 am; he must start 
> before dawn and walk back during the heat of the day. I greatly admire this.
>
> He has the tools he needs -- allen set and 15 mm wrench; U and cable lock; 
> f and r button blinkies; Timbuktu bag that is missing the chest strap.
>
> If anyone can donate:
>
> 1.  a decent battery (alkaline or rechargeable with charger) headlight or 
> rear light; 
>
> 2. Chest strap that will fit a standard courier bag shoulder strap 
> (Timbuktu Medium, in this case);
>
> 3. High volume pump with Schraeder head small enough to fit into M 
> Timbuktu;
>
> 4. Reflective triangle;
>
> 5. Decent rolling, pretty puncture resistant road tires of at least 50 mm;
>
> 6. 15 t ss cog (ie, no ramps or cutouts) with Shimano splines;
>
> I will happily pay shipping and do the needed installation and instruction.
>
> Thank you.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/Louisana-to-Coors-along-Centra
>
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[RBW] Meet my new friend Doris

[islaysteve]

Frog-Buddah scrutinizes you crankset.

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[RBW] Re: OT - Wooden Boat Build Complete (and the paint matches my Saluki!)

[islaysteve]

Beautiful!  Happy sailing!


On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 1:57:17 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> Certainly off topic but I'd had a couple inquiries about my wooden boat 
> kit building experience and list member Erl mentioned that he thought the 
> boat was painted to match my Saluki based on my IG feed (close but not 
> perfect)... so I figured I'd throw up a couple pictures.  The boat is a 
> Chesapeake Light Craft Passagemaker Dinghy, it's built of Okoume marine 
> plywood, the parts are pre cut by CNC machine and the instruction book is 
> pretty darn complete.  The construction method is called 'stitch and glue', 
> the major connections are all stiched together with copper wires and then 
> epoxy (glue) makes the permanent connection (lots of epoxy).   We started 
> right after New Years and it went in the water at my Mom's lakehouse last 
> week.  Very interesting project and I wouldn't be surprised to embark on 
> future boat builds based on how this one turned out.  
>
>
> For the quasi-Riv content... this particular model is billed as a good 
> 'All Rounder', rowing, sailing and taking a <4hp motor well.  Oh and her 
> rig - the 'balanced lug' is decidedly retro and unracer.  And while not Riv 
> directly you might be amused to know that the founder of CLC sold the 
> company to it's lead designer and went on to start Velo Orange, 
> subsequently also sold to its employees.  
>
>
> I was most tickled with her rowing last week to be honest, 8' oars and a 
> fixed seat, 2 rowing positions based on whether you have passengers... the 
> boat really moved and responded well to the effort.  I'm looking forward to 
> getting out and doing more rowing on her.  Sailing was great with one, a 
> bit complex with two adults.  I've got some learning to do managing the 
> sailing gear on deck with a second crew in a compact space.  Oh and the 
> name - "Mischief Managed".
>
>
> If you are interested in the build process I've got a start to finish 
> collection of photo's over on google - 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rkipjGewUveKGL8D6
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: Slightly OT: Route 66

[islaysteve]

Ray, Your post brings back memories of my days in the Boy Scouts.  Our 
troop was big into the Donner Party and the trail restoration.  I'm sure 
that we hiked through Emigrant Gap, but I can't remember any particulars.  
Sounds like a nice ride.  Steve


On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 10:40:33 PM UTC-4, Ray Varella wrote:
>
> If you are heading towards Reno from the Bay Area, before you get to 
> Donner Summit, there is a town called Nyack. 
> Park there and ride through Emigrant Gap till you get past Sugar Bowl Ski 
> Resort. A bit further up the road, the view opens up to see Donner Lake. 
> There’s lots of Granite Boulders to find a place to just sit and take it 
> all in. 
> In my humble opinion, it’s well worth it. 
> It’s where I always stop and have coffee.   
> It’s a nice ride down to the lake from there but it’s a bit of a climb 
> back up. 
> You could also park closer to the Ski Resort so it’s less of a ride. 
> The Squeeze Inn in Truckee is a really good breakfast spot. 
>
> Enjoy your trip 
>
> Ray

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[RBW] Re: UPDATE: It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[islaysteve]

Thanks for sharing, Leah!  I'd love to ride that trail to the falls, it 
sounds spectacular!


On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 1:43:20 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> This is just spectacular. My heart is full!

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[RBW] Re: OT - What I did on my Summer vacation

[islaysteve]

Nice, Marty.  There's nothing like a woodworking project (well, maybe bike 
build) completed and ready for you to continue enjoying.  Happy Fourth!
Steve


On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 7:40:42 PM UTC-4, MartyG wrote:
>
> Like many of us I suspect, we have projects we have every intention of 
> completing, if only we had a couple uninterrupted days. That's rare for me, 
> but I managed to sandwich two together this week and built these despite 
> the 100 degree weather. Fun project, and very comfortable. Norm Abram 
> design. Clear Western Red Cedar. Classic, light and strong - just like a 
> Rivendell! I'll find time to ride (and mow the lawn) later in the week. 
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: Thanks Grant

[islaysteve]

Thank you Grant!


On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 11:07:07 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Glad to see you voice your opinion on the Blahg/Blug/whatever it was. 
>
> -Justin
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[RBW] Re: The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

[islaysteve]

Great story, Leah.  I always enjoy reading your posts!  
Cheers, Steve


On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:04:44 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I just got off the phone with my sister. She accompanied a married couple 
> who are dear friends from out east to Duluth, MN where they hit the bike 
> trails and saw all the sights. Heather knows very little about Rivendell, 
> but is tolerant of my enthusiasm for all things Grant and Co. When she told 
> me this story we laughed until our sides hurt and I knew I had to retell it 
> to a sympathetic audience. Now, here is the DISCLAIMER: Some of you like 
> racy, skinny, lightweight bikes. Some of you appreciate the roadie life. 
> Some of you are partial to drop bars and clipless pedals. And that’s 
> lovely, and we are among friends here, but I’m about to poke fun of all 
> those things. I don’t mean to offend, but I do so love to laugh, so I hope 
> you will forgive me for being offensive this one time, and just giggle with 
> me for a bit. If you are feeling gracious, and you like a little satire in 
> your life, please do read on! If not, stop HERE... 
>
> It was the first morning, and the plan was to hit the bike trails early 
> and see some historic sights in the city. Heather dressed in a breezy, 
> colorful, summery outfit, and bounded downstairs to the lobby. Christine 
> and Dan arrived, looked at Heather, disbelieving and said, “Is that what 
> you’re wearing?!” Heather looked back at them, eyes roving over their 
> unusual outfits. They were covered in colorful, skin-tight lycra. They 
> donned shorts that were oddly padded and somewhat profane, as their 
> crotches were accentuated and bulging. Their shoes were weird, and made 
> sharp clicks on the tile with every step. “Is that what YOU’RE wearing?!” 
> Heather gasped. 
>
> Ah, but they are good friends, so everyone shrugged and headed out the 
> door. They made their way to their bikes, where they were about to have 
> their next mutual shock. Heather has a lovely red Biria, bedecked with 
> racks and a basket and capped with a nice, wide saddle. Hers are romantic, 
> swept-back handlebars, and her tires are smartly covered with fenders. She 
> has chosen this bike because she has commuted downtown for years in several 
> cities and these attributes of the bike are the ones that make sense to 
> her. She has never read Grant’s book. She doesn’t care about online forums 
> or bike literature. She arrived at these conclusions because she knows that 
> they work. Thus, when she looked over at her friends’ carbon racing 
> machines, she couldn’t help but gawk. Dan’s bike is a 20 year old carbon 
> machine, and Christine’s carbon bike was purchased in October. No fenders. 
> No racks (Dan had a giant backpack he was carrying like a pack mule, and 
> the day was a sweltering one.). Christine and Dan mounted their bikes and 
> suddenly their feet were glued to their pedals. What fresh horror was this? 
> My sister kept staring at this couple struggling to release their feet from 
> these traps at every intersection and stop. Christine was less skilled at 
> this, and at one of their stops she tipped over, padded shorts and all. 
> “Why do you use those?” Heather asked incredulously, pointing to the 
> pedals. “Oh, these REALLY help with efficiency,” explained Dan, as 
> Christine scraped herself off the pavement. 
>
> They reached their first destination. There was a lovely waterfall to 
> appreciate, so they dismounted and made their way to it. Clickety-clack, 
> clickety-clack went the Efficiency Shoes on the boardwalk. The rest of the 
> afternoon was much like that, and 25 miles later, so ended the first day. 
>
> The next morning found the couple dithering about what to wear. They were 
> going out for a nice lunch and to visit a local museum, and the couple was 
> in a quandary about their clothes. They were biking so they needed “bike 
> clothes.” But they were also planning to do fun, touristy things, so they 
> needed “normal clothes.”  They didn’t want to wear the clickety-clacks, but 
> their pedals called for it.  “I don’t know if I can ride my bike without my 
> padded shorts,” said Christine. They compromised. They put on normal 
> clothing with their clickety-clacks. Then they stuffed extra shoes into 
> Dan’s large backpack. They pedaled off, crotches on fire, Dan sweating 
> under the weight strapped to his back. 
>
> “Why do you have that bike seat if it hurts to ride it?” asked Heather, 
> genuinely curious. 
>
> “Oh, well, I probably save 5 grams using this one!” crowed Dan, “And you 
> may not think that sounds like much, but a few grams here and a few grams 
> there really adds up!” 
>
> They continued on, where their way was impeded by several puddles. Heather 
> lifted her legs up and sailed gleefully through the water, outfit intact 
> and free of mud. Oddly, she was alone. She looked back and saw her friends, 
> who had come almost to a halt, negotiating their 

[RBW] Re: It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[islaysteve]

This is great!  Looking forward to more of the story...and of course pix 
when it's time.  Good luck and have fun shopping!


On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 1:26:49 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> Today started out with an early morning call from my sister, who said her 
> husband's old Specialized hybrid bike had been stolen from their yard. The 
> prior evening, her husband (who I'll call D), in his haste to greet his 
> wife and Rhodesian Ridgeback dog, ditched his trusty old green steed in the 
> yard and forgot about it. The next morning my sister left for work and 
> noticed her husband's helmet and u-lock had been cast into the neighbor's 
> yard. With a sinking feeling, she looked around for the bike, which was by 
> now, long gone. You know where this story is going...
>
> D was in need of a new bike. They just relocated to Minneapolis, which has 
> fabulous bike trails, and it is a shame to miss a day of riding to work. It 
> was not designated Best Biking City for nothing! He started looking at 
> Raleigh and Handsome and Surly, but when I got word I did my best sales 
> pitch(read: nagging) for Rivendell. Initially, he didn't want to pour that 
> much money into a bike that may be stolen (he works downtown). He was 
> pretty set on that sloping top-tube Raleigh, and I sighed in defeat and 
> waited for the photos. Suddenly my sister called and said D was having a 
> change of heart!  He wanted a step-through bike, because it's awfully nice 
> not to swing your leg over a top tube and kick the giant leather bag on 
> your rear rack. Also, it's nice when you don't rip your expensive pants 
> trying to dismount. Yes, a step-through bike is just the ticket - and 
> nobody makes them in his size. Oh wait - Rivendell does! 
>
> He did some research and discovered there's a special locked area for 
> employees to stow their bikes. It requires a key card and then he can use 
> his own locks, too. As long as he remembers to put his bike away before he 
> fawns all over his wife and dog, he has a good chance of keeping it away 
> from thieves. He is good for the money and now out of excuses. He deserves 
> a shiny new Rivendell awaiting him in his garage. Minneapolis deserves a 
> glorious new Rivendell traversing its paths. I deserve to have matching 
> Rivendells with my favorite brother-in-law. I think we can all agree on 
> what must be done here.
>
> D is an attorney at a big firm and has no spare time to call Rivendell and 
> order his bike, but guess who has all the time in the world for shopping 
> with other people's money? Yes, me, devoted sister that I am. My sister and 
> I are going to group call Rivendell (I wonder if that's ever been done) and 
> snatch that 59 cm green Clem L the website says they have in stock, so 
> please, nobody buy it before we get to it tomorrow! D gave us free reign on 
> how to set it up, asking only for a rear rack and basket that holds a large 
> load. He's kind of snazzy, so I'm going to use my Hail Mary credits and 
> deck out his Clem in some fancy extras as a surprise. 
>
> Won't he be delighted by the art on the box? The skill with which they 
> pack the bike? He's had only Target bikes and the stolen Specialized, which 
> was slowly giving out under his large frame and ridiculous loads of stuff. 
> Can you imagine how luxurious that Rivendell ride will feel to him? He will 
> be ruined for any other bike. 
>
> I'll send photos of the happy new customer when we get him up and running. 
> Now I'd better head for bed, though who can sleep with this kind of 
> excitement! 
>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[islaysteve]

Thank you Reed and Grant, and all others who contributed, for making this 
incredible resource available.  I haven't read many Readers as I am 
relatively new to the Rivendell family.  I was aware of Riv in 1995, but 
not the Readers.  Yesterday I had some time away from home, so managed to 
read some of #2 on my phone.  Not the best way, but still possible.  I  
found the day-by-day journal piece to be particularlytelling?   Anyway, 
the index file sounds like it will be a great addition.  I'm looking 
forward to reading more.  Cheers, Steve


On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 2:37:16 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> One more update! I've now added the last few files folks were kind enough 
> to share, including:
> An index file listing all article titles, which can be searched.
> RR00
> BOB Gazette #1 and #2
>
> Full credit where credit is due!
>
> Main credit to Grant Petersen, who published these wonderful magazines and 
> was kind enough to let me share them. Thanks as well to all the original 
> authors for their thoughtful, helpful, joyous writing. 
>
> Additional thanks to: 
>
> Will, Vince, Roman and all the other great folks at Riv for supplying the CDs 
> that got this collection started and just generally being great people.
>
> Ed Fausto for RR 00.
>
> Martin Gierke for the RR Index and BOB Gazette 1 & 2.
>
> Cyclofiend Jim for RR 1 - 11, 41, and 42.
>
> Shoji Takahashi for RR 36 - 39.
>
> And Grant once again for tracking down 40 and 44.
>
> Humbly compiled and hosted by me.
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 6:57 AM, R Shannon  > wrote:
>
>> Well said Ana. This is a generous and special group.
>>
>> Best,
>> Richard
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On May 14, 2018, at 1:09 AM, Birdman  
>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > +1 for a coffee table book and a plug for Stumptown Printers to be 
>> involved in the project. Super talented folks and Eric is a big Rivendell 
>> fan.
>> > 
>> > Isaac in pdx
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Re: [RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[islaysteve]

Add my congratulations to Grant and the Riv staff for a very nice catalog!  
Love the illustrations and of course it conveys the Rivendell philosophy 
and lots of information.  I sincerely hope that it generates lots of 
sales.  I got mine here in Maryland several days ago.  Cheers, Steve

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 11:33:00 AM UTC-4, Curtis wrote:
>
> Got mine in San Diego a few days ago.
>
> Curtis
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:12 AM, Daniel MacPherson  > wrote:
>
>> Got mine yesterday. I’m in FloridaMaybe the east coast get priority.
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[RBW] Re: Workstand clamping

[islaysteve]

I've been clamping onto the seat tubes of bikes for a number of years with 
no bad effects.  On my Park consumer stand, I used to put an old cotton 
sock over each jaw, but now I've glued some soft leather to each of the 
clamping surfaces. It works well.  I also bought an inexpensive seat post 
to use for clamping on my Riv (seatpost mounted is an old Aero type and 
cannot clamp), but it's usually more of a PIA to install the clamping post 
first.  YMMV, of course.
Steve


On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 2:13:17 AM UTC-4, Paul G wrote:
>
> For those of you with a fistful of seat post exposed on your large level 
> top tube bikes, what do you clamp your workstand to?
>
> I've been raising my seat post (marked with tape beforehand) to make room 
> for the clamp but that is a pain in the neck. Is it safe to clamp onto the 
> seat tube instead? It seems to me that the seat post inside would reinforce 
> the seat tube itself. 
>
> The bike in question is a 61cm Roadeo. 
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Hupe, D-A Levers, Clothing & Misc.

[islaysteve]

All gone except the jersey and jacket.  I'm open to offers before I donate 
them.  Thanks,
Steve

On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 10:20:11 AM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:
>
> D-A levers and Hupe are spoken for, pending (my) shipping quote and final 
> payment.  So the $99 deal no longer works.  I will re-post if anything 
> changes.
> Cheers, Steve
>
> On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 6:36:55 AM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:
>>
>> (Cross-posted from iBob): 
>> I have the following items for sale.  Prices do not include shipping.  
>> Here’s the link to photos (I’ve allowed access, but please let me know if 
>> it doesn’t work):  https://photos.app.goo.gl/SPWpaY2y4Tsu5TwC7
>>
>> Pearl Izumi cycling jacket, blue, size M.  Single-layer wind jacket.  
>> Several years old but little wear, other than the elastic is somewhat old.  
>> One small pocket inside useable for keys.  Reflective piping.  Fits snug 
>> like P-I tends to do.  $20.
>>
>> Zoic short sleeve cycling jersey, size L, grey.  Quarter-zip.  Nearly 
>> new, worn a few times.  One large and one small zippered pocket in rear.  
>> $20.
>>
>> Dura Ace Brake shift levers, 8-speed.  The original Shimano D-A 
>> brifters.  Good condition with very slight scuffing on front, hoods show 
>> normal wear.  Front cover name plates are faded, shown removed in photos 
>> but I will send with brifters.  New plates can be purchased on eBay. Note:  
>> These levers will shift some but not all Shimano 8-speed groups.  If 
>> interested, I can provide further info.  These go for much more on eBay, 
>> I’d rather pass them on to list members.  $45/pr.
>>
>> Rivendell Hupe detachable rear bag support.  If you are not familiar with 
>> this item, please research to see how it works, info might still be up on 
>> the Riv site.  Note:  Prone to scratching your frame.  I have covered the 
>> offending end with a plastic cap, but this is no guarantee that it will not 
>> scratch.  Use at your own (frame’s) risk.  $10.
>>
>> Delta fork mount.  This is normally mounted to a pickup bed or similar 
>> location.  Shown on my Miata (Bleriot and Miata not included!).  This is a 
>> very strong version with loops in the levers to provide for a lock.  The 
>> mounting holes on this one have been enlarged slightly to accomodate the 
>> mounting area on my car.  If anything, this provides some flexibility for 
>> mounting.  $10.
>>
>> Sea Sucker “Rear Wheel Strap”:  This is a strong suction cup with a 
>> velcro wheel strap to hold down a wheel; attaches to car body and is 
>> removable.  Similar to this one: 
>> https://www.seasucker.com/collections/rack-accessories/products/rear-wheel-strap.
>>   
>> Works very well.  This and the fork mount above were used to create a trunk 
>> mount on my Miata.  I no longer have that car so am passing the mounts 
>> along.  $35 for Sea Sucker (sells new for $55).  
>>
>> Or take all of the above for $99 plus shipping.  PM me via this list, 
>> reply here, or email directly to:  alkiremx5_at_veri2on_dot_n3t.  I will 
>> quote shipping based on items and your zip code.  Thanks for looking!  Steve
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Journal Entry up at Analog Cycles: Disconnecting to get connected: A Journey in Satchidananda

[islaysteve]

James, The shop and county look amazing.  I'm not surprised, considering 
how nice the Frederick shop was.  I'm sorry that I didn't as much time 
there as I would have liked.  Since you mentioned maple trees, I'm 
wondering if you will brew Analog Maple Syrup.  Anyway, best wishes for the 
enterprise, and I hope to be able to visit someday.  Please keep posting 
your story and photos to this list!  Cheers, Steve


On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:02:16 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>
> Journal entry about Analog Cycles moving to Vermont, starting our shop off 
> the grid, hewing thoughts down, Modal Jazz and stormy seas, that sort of 
> thing.  The new shop space is coming along.  We'll be open June 1, with 
> luck.  181 Hillside Rd, East Poultney VT, 05764.  Lots of Atlantis frames n 
> demo bikes on tap, as well as Sams, a Clem or two, lots of Crust stuff, and 
> more.  Enlightened fitting, wheel builds, lightning systems...  All outta a 
> small Sugar House in a stand of maple trees.  
>
> https://www.analogcycles.com/2018/05/03/disconnecting-to-get-connected/
>
>
> 
>  
>
>
> 
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Hupe, D-A Levers, Clothing & Misc.

[islaysteve]

D-A levers and Hupe are spoken for, pending (my) shipping quote and final 
payment.  So the $99 deal no longer works.  I will re-post if anything 
changes.
Cheers, Steve

On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 6:36:55 AM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:
>
> (Cross-posted from iBob): 
> I have the following items for sale.  Prices do not include shipping.  
> Here’s the link to photos (I’ve allowed access, but please let me know if 
> it doesn’t work):  https://photos.app.goo.gl/SPWpaY2y4Tsu5TwC7
>
> Pearl Izumi cycling jacket, blue, size M.  Single-layer wind jacket.  
> Several years old but little wear, other than the elastic is somewhat old.  
> One small pocket inside useable for keys.  Reflective piping.  Fits snug 
> like P-I tends to do.  $20.
>
> Zoic short sleeve cycling jersey, size L, grey.  Quarter-zip.  Nearly new, 
> worn a few times.  One large and one small zippered pocket in rear.  $20.
>
> Dura Ace Brake shift levers, 8-speed.  The original Shimano D-A brifters.  
> Good condition with very slight scuffing on front, hoods show normal wear.  
> Front cover name plates are faded, shown removed in photos but I will send 
> with brifters.  New plates can be purchased on eBay. Note:  These levers 
> will shift some but not all Shimano 8-speed groups.  If interested, I can 
> provide further info.  These go for much more on eBay, I’d rather pass them 
> on to list members.  $45/pr.
>
> Rivendell Hupe detachable rear bag support.  If you are not familiar with 
> this item, please research to see how it works, info might still be up on 
> the Riv site.  Note:  Prone to scratching your frame.  I have covered the 
> offending end with a plastic cap, but this is no guarantee that it will not 
> scratch.  Use at your own (frame’s) risk.  $10.
>
> Delta fork mount.  This is normally mounted to a pickup bed or similar 
> location.  Shown on my Miata (Bleriot and Miata not included!).  This is a 
> very strong version with loops in the levers to provide for a lock.  The 
> mounting holes on this one have been enlarged slightly to accomodate the 
> mounting area on my car.  If anything, this provides some flexibility for 
> mounting.  $10.
>
> Sea Sucker “Rear Wheel Strap”:  This is a strong suction cup with a velcro 
> wheel strap to hold down a wheel; attaches to car body and is removable.  
> Similar to this one: 
> https://www.seasucker.com/collections/rack-accessories/products/rear-wheel-strap.
>   
> Works very well.  This and the fork mount above were used to create a trunk 
> mount on my Miata.  I no longer have that car so am passing the mounts 
> along.  $35 for Sea Sucker (sells new for $55).  
>
> Or take all of the above for $99 plus shipping.  PM me via this list, 
> reply here, or email directly to:  alkiremx5_at_veri2on_dot_n3t.  I will 
> quote shipping based on items and your zip code.  Thanks for looking!  Steve
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Hupe, D-A Levers, Clothing & Misc.

[islaysteve]

(Cross-posted from iBob): 
I have the following items for sale.  Prices do not include shipping.  
Here’s the link to photos (I’ve allowed access, but please let me know if 
it doesn’t work):  https://photos.app.goo.gl/SPWpaY2y4Tsu5TwC7

Pearl Izumi cycling jacket, blue, size M.  Single-layer wind jacket.  
Several years old but little wear, other than the elastic is somewhat old.  
One small pocket inside useable for keys.  Reflective piping.  Fits snug 
like P-I tends to do.  $20.

Zoic short sleeve cycling jersey, size L, grey.  Quarter-zip.  Nearly new, 
worn a few times.  One large and one small zippered pocket in rear.  $20.

Dura Ace Brake shift levers, 8-speed.  The original Shimano D-A brifters.  
Good condition with very slight scuffing on front, hoods show normal wear.  
Front cover name plates are faded, shown removed in photos but I will send 
with brifters.  New plates can be purchased on eBay. Note:  These levers 
will shift some but not all Shimano 8-speed groups.  If interested, I can 
provide further info.  These go for much more on eBay, I’d rather pass them 
on to list members.  $45/pr.

Rivendell Hupe detachable rear bag support.  If you are not familiar with 
this item, please research to see how it works, info might still be up on 
the Riv site.  Note:  Prone to scratching your frame.  I have covered the 
offending end with a plastic cap, but this is no guarantee that it will not 
scratch.  Use at your own (frame’s) risk.  $10.

Delta fork mount.  This is normally mounted to a pickup bed or similar 
location.  Shown on my Miata (Bleriot and Miata not included!).  This is a 
very strong version with loops in the levers to provide for a lock.  The 
mounting holes on this one have been enlarged slightly to accomodate the 
mounting area on my car.  If anything, this provides some flexibility for 
mounting.  $10.

Sea Sucker “Rear Wheel Strap”:  This is a strong suction cup with a velcro 
wheel strap to hold down a wheel; attaches to car body and is removable.  
Similar to this one: 
https://www.seasucker.com/collections/rack-accessories/products/rear-wheel-strap.
  
Works very well.  This and the fork mount above were used to create a trunk 
mount on my Miata.  I no longer have that car so am passing the mounts 
along.  $35 for Sea Sucker (sells new for $55).  

Or take all of the above for $99 plus shipping.  PM me via this list, reply 
here, or email directly to:  alkiremx5_at_veri2on_dot_n3t.  I will quote 
shipping based on items and your zip code.  Thanks for looking!  Steve

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot repaint

[islaysteve]

Beautiful, Ted!  Great color choice for the Bleriot.  Can't wait to see 
build pictures.  Cheers, 
Steve


On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 4:14:13 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:
>
> Bad quick iPhone photos for now. Waterford aced it. 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/23ebL9D
>
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI
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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[islaysteve]

 Bought some.  Hope they get the boost they need.

On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 1:49:42 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Done. I didn’t want to post because there’s going to be a zillion emails 
> in my inbox as all the replies come in. I’m posting now because I think 
> people want to gauge the Hail Mary success.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell Poster

[islaysteve]

It's not likely that Rivendell will reissue this poster.  You can read 
about the artist and poster here: http://www.goines.net/index.html.  The 
Riv poster is #230 in Group 9.  There is an exchange section where posters 
are sold, and people also post their Wanted requests.  I didn't see this 
one listed.  I thought that in the past the artist sold unsigned posters 
for $175, signed for $350.  I just scanned the site, didn't dig deeply into 
it. I may have missed some information. You could also contact the artist 
directly if you are really prepared to pay those prices.  You could try 
Riv, just in case they have any they are willing to sell.  Sorry, mine is 
not for sale!  Good luck.


On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 11:27:06 AM UTC-5, Birdman wrote:
>
> Hey Bunch, 
> I’m searching for the poster below. I didn’t buy one from Riv when I had 
> the chance years ago. Anyone have an extra rolled up somewhere? 
> Isaac

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: RIvendell Bleriot 55cm

[islaysteve]

I love mine, even though it doesn't get ridden enough.  Just joining the 
party to sing Louie's praises.  Best of luck with the sale!

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 9:39:52 AM UTC-5, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> I still have my original Nleriot, the only Riv I kept after back surgery.  
> Still unable to ride but not ready to part with it.  I agree it is the best 
> riding Riv that I have had.  
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:18 AM Lum Gim Fong  > wrote:
>
>> I like the decals. One of the best ever on their bikes. Very creative.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sackville Banana Sax

[islaysteve]

Based on my experience with my old Banana Sack (made by Duluth pack), I'd 
say you will be fine with your intended use.  Mine will carry: an 
innertube, tools in a pouch, wallet, light jacket and an Abus cable lock, 
like Riv sells.  If the lock is carried, it should go in first.  Looking at 
the pictures on the site, the new one may be a wee bit larger, so better 
still.  BTW, I modified mine to fasten the flap with shock cord very much 
like the new Riv design.  It is much more convenient than the single buckle 
style of the old ones.  Interesting that Riv went to the two straps 
perpendicular for mounting.  I can see that it will be easier to mount and 
dismount than the old threaded-strap style.  One of these days, I'll be 
tempted to replace my old one with a new gray for my Bleriot.  Cheers, Steve


On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 6:18:51 AM UTC-5, Tim Bantham wrote:
>
> I am looking for feedback on Rivendell's new Banana Sax bag. If you have 
> one and have had some experience using it I would be interested in hearing 
> about it's overall usefulness What have you been able to fit in the bag 
> etc. I am trying to keep bags and racks on my Sam to a minimum but still 
> would like to have a useful bag for carrying my phone, tools, gloves and 
> maybe even a light jacket.  
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Re: [RBW] Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[islaysteve]

Funny, I was curious and so I spent a few minutes on the Waterford website 
today.  I quickly came to the conclusion that a "similar" lugged steel F/F 
from Waterford starts very close in cost to the $2600 point and goes up 
from there.  So you have a choice:  Buy a Rivendell (made by Waterford), 
get the Riv look, ride, lugs, decals and color of your choice; or buy a 
Waterford and get their look, etc, with the choice to spend even more money 
on fancier lugs, chrome, fancy paint, etc.  Individual choice, no right or 
wrong.  

I'd love to see your Waterford when it's finished.
Cheers, Steve


On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 10:46:25 AM UTC-5, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
> Why not have Waterford build you something lighter if weight is a concern? 
> Certainly they're not too obscure a company for RBW folk. I think for a 
> lightweight road frame the roadeo cost more than it's worth. It's a weird 
> starting point for a lightweight build. But I guess sub 20lb isn't actually 
> that light. The only premium I see over most comparable custom options in 
> the price range is the beautiful lugs. Idk, your bike your choice.
>
> I'll gladly post my Waterford when it's done and we can all ridicule my 
> dumb parts together :)
>

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[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

[islaysteve]

I see where anonomous is coming from and think (he) has a point.  There 
is/would be/should be a market for the type of bike he describes:  Riv 
geometry, ride and utility without the lugs, paint, etc.  But doesn't this 
already exist?  Check out Soma, frames for under $800.  I'm assuming the 
$800 reference in the post was for frame only.  If for a whole bike, that's 
a bit more of a challenge.  And what of the Bleriot?  It went for $750 not 
so long ago, fully lugged, beautiful paint and extensive graphics.  I'm 
just putting out some of my observations, not saying what Riv should do.  
Just saying that it's a direction they could go, with a lower entry level 
and perhaps a different series name.  And after all, Grant did design the 
Soma San Marcos.  

On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 11:02:07 AM UTC-5, anonomous wrote:
>
>
> My dream Rivendell would be any of their lineup that stripped off all the 
> expensive aesthetic luxuries, while preserving all the function. Same 
> tubes, same geometry, same magical ride. NO lugs, fancy paint, or complex 
> decals. Just Tig welded and powdercoated a single color. 
>
> Imagine all the camping function of an Atlantis, for like $800, of which 
> Riv got to keep 20% instead of 5% or whatever their margins are now. In 
> terms of geo and function Rivendell are literally decades ahead of their 
> time. The bikes are incredibly desirable to young riders. But, 
> frustratingly, their prices are jacked up sky high via a frankly bizarre 
> fixation on superficial luxury, and we just can't afford them! Like, OK, 
> custom made investment-cast lugs are nice looking, but they add zero 
> function to the bike while costing a fortune. Meanwhile the company is 
> constantly on the brink of bankruptcy, presumably due to low volume and low 
> margins. 
>
> Maybe you think that all the superficial luxuries are part of Rivendell's 
> core brand. Maybe! But for me the real interest is the incredibly refined 
> and optimized geometry and construction. Lugs aren't worth anything to me, 
> personally. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

[islaysteve]

Erl, I put Orange seal into the tubes on the bike that I converted to 650b 
for my daughter.  Although she doesn't have a whole lot of road (outdoor) 
miles on those wheels yet, she has had no flats.  I was able to get tubes 
with removable valve cores from Silver Exp. here in Kensington. I think 
they had to get them from the other store.   Inserting the OS wasn't much 
trouble as I recall.  I will see if I have the boxes or other indication of 
the tube brand (I think they had long valve stems, but that didn't 
matter).  Cheers, Steve


On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 1:23:15 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> Patricks and Tim, 
> Thanks for the info.  I'll do some reading on Orange Seal and tubes with 
> removable valve cores.
> Dean,
> I appreciate the info from your ride.  From the reading I've done, it 
> seems portions of the western section (Atkinson to Valentine) are afflicted 
> with vegetation and thorns on the trail.  Apparently a state highway runs 
> parallel to the trail in sections and is used by some riders weary of flats 
> and rougher trail surfaces.  
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[islaysteve]

Awesome build and post, Bill. Love the look of your BMC.   You've provided 
useful information for fantasizing about putting my Bleriot on a diet.  
Realistically, I can remove the rack and get a lighter saddle than the 
Brooks.  Thanks, Steve


On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 6:21:48 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Reading Grant interview where he was saying they were shooting for sub-20 
> wihen they developed  the Roadeo and was wondering if anyone here has 
> realized this on their Roadeo.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Bike -56cm

[islaysteve]

Great photo set, Erl.  At least you'll have them to remember the bike.  
Lots on nice local locations!  Good luck with the sale.  Steve

On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 6:23:18 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> Complete bike: $1500 shipped or $1400 local pickup-Washington DC area.  
> Or
> F/f/hs/fenders: $800 shipped or $750 local pickup.  PayPal please.
>
> Background:
> In this fun pastime of catch and release, it is time to release this bike. 
>  I bought the f/f/hs used on eBay and built it up as a 650b conversion 
> before changing to 700c. It rides wonderfully and is beautiful!  However, 
> since acquiring my Romulus and Cheviot, I am mostly riding them.  Time to 
> release this bike to an owner with time to ride it! Though it pains me a 
> bit as I will miss the gorgeous paint, lugs and head badge!  As previously 
> stated, I originally built this as a 650b, but the bike currently has 700c 
> wheels and Ruffy Tuffy tires.  (Photos show bike as both 650b and 700c)
>
> Frame is in great condition: two notable issues--one scuff in the clear 
> coat on the top tube and a bulge on the headtube under the headbadge with a 
> corresponding paint chip-I bought the bike with these flaws.
>
> Pictures here: 
> https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853
> Happy to provide more pics if wanted.
>
> Frame measurements: 56cm c-c seat tube, 57.5cm c-c top tube.  I am happy 
> to provide other measurements and photos. (I have a 75-76 cm saddle height 
> and 86cm PBH.)
>
> Spectrum Tom Kellogg paint job is gorgeous!
>
> Headset: Campagnolo record
>
> Components included (also see photos with exceptions listed below):
> -Tektro R539 brake on front, Paul brake on rear (a rear Tektro 539 is also 
> included with complete bike) (some photos show R559 brakes which are not 
> included)
> -Paul rear brake hanger 
> -TRP brake levers
> -Kmc chain 
> -Altus rear derailleur 
> -11-32 shimano cassette 
> -Shimano CX-70 front derailleur 
> -Shimano 8sp shift levers 
> -BB un55 107mm 
> -Crankset sugino wide low double;170 crank length
> -Nitto Albastache bars (Nitto noodles 46cm also included)
> -Nitto Dirt Drop stem (Nitto Technomic 280mm with 70mm reach is also 
> included with complete bike)
> -Tires 700x28 Ruffy Tuffy 
> -700c wheelset 36hole Mavic A319 wheelset Shimano Tiagra hubs (130 rear 
> spacing)
> -VO grand cru seat post 
> -Brooks b17 saddle - blue 
> -Bar wrap - Cinelli - blue gel cork
> -pedals -MKS RMX Sneaker Pedals
> -Sykes custom wood fenders
> -blue Rivendell mud flap on front fender, --blue small Saddlesack.
> -2 king iris bottle cages
>
> NOT included but pictured in some of the photos:
> -Frame pump
> -Kleen kanteen bottle
> -SKS fenders
> -rear blinky light, front light
> -American flag 
> -bell 
>
> I am not interested in selling parts/accessories individually at this time.
>
> Happy to answer questions. Please reply off list. 
>
> Thanks,
> Erl
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Saluki

[islaysteve]

Wow.  Beautiful bike,, probably my size, favorite color.  Alas, I have a 
lovely Bleriot, can't justify the switch.  Best of luck with the sale 
Kellie.


On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 6:59:25 PM UTC-5, Kellie wrote:
>
> 50cm, 650b Rivendell Saluki; complete. Built up from frame with 100% brand 
> new components; <300 miles. Rich built wheels with Shimano dynamo. $1800; 
> shipping costs *not* included. If you want the Sackville Saddlesack 
> (small), add $90. More photos and components on request.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Crankypants & Thoughtful Responses

[islaysteve]

Thank you for all that you do for the group, Jim.  Wonderful post.
Steve Alkire
Kensington, MD


On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 11:52:37 AM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> The tenets of this group have not changed. It's right there in the top 
> line - "...a respectful, supportive and polite tone in all posts."
>
> I never expected that everyone would agree with everyone else in every 
> post. The world would truly be a much more boring place if that were the 
> case. 
>
> But excessive umbrage and accusations and generally going toe-to-toe in 
> recent threads which should have been innocuous makes me a bit concerned. 
> Hopefully, this was just an early example of the February crankiness that 
> pops up on this list when folks have not gotten out to ride enough. 
>
> There are a few things in those escalating threads which catch my 
> attention. 
>
> One is a statement which described a post as hastily made.  There's not a 
> thing so time-dependent on this group that anyone needs to shoehorn an 
> immediate response between the business of the day. If someone insults you, 
> let it stand. The previous conversational contributions made to this group 
> present enough of a body of evidence as to whether any insult is valid or 
> ludicrous. We all have a sense of the personalities behind the comments, 
> especially if we've been involved in this list for any length of time. The 
> need to respond immediately does not exist here. There are better venues 
> for that. If you find yourself hammering out (or tapping out) (or dictating 
> to a transcription bot) a quick response, maybe you don't need to post it. 
>
> Because words are tough. 
>
> We see it play out time and time again. All we get are the words. No body 
> language or tone. No micro musculature movement on the face to defuse or 
> contextualize the words. An innocuous post taken the wrong way. Something 
> triggers someone and suddenly the conversation is in a death spiral towards 
> "So's yer old man!"
>
> I think we're better than that.
>
> Because we're human, that isn't always the case. 
>
> So, let's give one another the opportunity to be wrong, hold an opinion we 
> don't agree with, miss the point entirely or explore an idea clumsily. If 
> you are the smartest person in the room, let the rest of us catch up 
> occasionally. Pretend it's a group ride where no one gets dropped.
>
> There were also a few things in the threads which heartened me.  
>
> Group members stepped in to diffuse the situation, putting themselves in 
> the line of fire to let everyone sit back down and enjoy the music. Thank 
> you. 
>
> That said, what now?
>
> Will we continue to get teased by the popular social venues into being the 
> first responder? Having an answer rather than considering a thoughtful 
> response? Will this group become a value-added buy/sell/trade sheet? Will 
> we continue to find commonality or seek to contrast only our differences? 
> Will Timmy hang on to the cracking tree branch over the chasm while Lassie 
> finds the ranger? Wait. Sorry. Ignore that last line.
>
> My point, as always, is that the quality of this group is up to us. Let's 
> move forward with a commitment to that idea.
>
> Thanks to everyone for their ongoing contributions to this group. 
>
> - Jim
>
> Jim Edgar / rbw group admin
>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts

[islaysteve]

A few trainer thoughts, I''m not sure if any were already mentioned above.  
Do yourself a big favor and don't buy a new trainer.  I've bought 3 on 
Craigslist for $35 to $40, they work perfectly well.  The last 2 were 
CycleOps magnetic, I gave one to my daughter.  Look for metal construction 
in the resistance unit, the less plastic the better.  Ease of mounting and 
removing the bike may be a consideration.  My daughter's has a lever on the 
axle mount which makes it easier to quickly remove the bike.  Mine has 
knobs that have to be screwed in and out.  Yes, trainers are boring.  I 
listen to audiobooks on mine.  Once you've tried your CL trainer for a 
while, you may want another one with other features, or not.  Or you may 
just let it sit in the basement.  Best of luck and Happy New Year!

On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 2:29:16 PM UTC-5, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a 
> Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if 
> anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to 
> really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike 
> commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift 
> compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the 
> basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t 
> enjoy biking in the rain.

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[RBW] Re: Very Merry Christmas Tide!

[islaysteve]

And a Merry Christmas to all!  Justin, congratulations on the arrival of 
your daughter!  You are in for a wonderful adventure.  Deacon, thank you 
for your continued presence here.  You inspire all of us.  Cheers, Steve


On Sunday, December 24, 2017 at 7:16:12 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> A very merry Christmas Tide to you and yours! This group, and more 
> importantly, the people on it, are a gift I get to open all year. Thank you 
> for all your help in guiding and helping me bump and go my way more fully 
> into biking to heal my nut!
>
> Here are photos from my last too rides. May you enjoy your hearth and 
> family this Yuletide!
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/very-merry-christmas-tide/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] Re: Banana Sax Pics?

[islaysteve]

I have both a Sackville XS and an old Banana.  Both are excellent.  
Determining volume of the Banana is tricky, but IMO it holds a bit more 
than the Sackville.  Specifically, I can get my Abus cable lock (the one 
Riv sells) fully within the Banana with room for lots of other stuff.  
Also, the Banana is capable of some expansion via raising the flap and 
securing at a higher level.  On the other hand, the XS is very trim-looking 
on the bike, super easy to access because of the rear zipper.  They both 
hold more than you'd think they would.  Some of the pix show the Banana 
mounted such that the opening faces pretty much rearward.   I prefer mine 
mounted more upright, and that is possible if you experiment with placement 
of the mounting straps.  I've thought of the Sackville XS as my Summer bag, 
when I won't need to stash a jacket in there; Banana as Fall:  discard 
clothing items and carry them within.  Hope this helps, Steve


On Thursday, December 21, 2017 at 9:44:12 PM UTC-5, Christopher Murray 
wrote:
>
> I am trying to decide between the Sackville small and the Banana sax. Does 
> anyone have pics and/or comments about the banana sax? 
>
> Thanks!
> Chris
>

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[RBW] Re: My gift to the bunch

[islaysteve]

Oops, didn't see Jeffrey's generous offer when I posted my response.  I'll 
use that, thanks!
Steve

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 9:34:07 AM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>
> With the introduction of the Frank Jones model, not to mention a few 
> others, I was reminded it's been two years since I updated the Rivendell 
> badge poster. As with the last iteration, I have uploaded two sizes to my 
> Flickr page where you can download and print as you like. One is 18X24, the 
> other is 9X12. Both are 300dpi so the detail should come through. Since the 
> last one I did in 2015, a few of the versions have had to go to make room 
> for the new ones. I did the best I could with available photos I found on 
> line, or that people have sent. I never get tired of looking at all these 
> great badges - a fitting legacy for the busy crew of elves in Walnut Creek. 
>
> Hope everyone has a nice holiday season and a ride-perfect new year ahead. 
>
> Marty
> Stewartstown, Pennsylvania
>
>
> 
>
>
> 18X24 file can be downloaded here:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/38299689265/in/photostream/
>
>
> And the 9X12 here:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/24315614747/in/photostream/
>

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[RBW] Re: My gift to the bunch

[islaysteve]

This is awesome, Marty!  Thanks so much for the work that you did on this 
poster.  Now I just need to find a printer to make one for my workshop. 
Cheers to everyone, Steve


On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 9:34:07 AM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>
> With the introduction of the Frank Jones model, not to mention a few 
> others, I was reminded it's been two years since I updated the Rivendell 
> badge poster. As with the last iteration, I have uploaded two sizes to my 
> Flickr page where you can download and print as you like. One is 18X24, the 
> other is 9X12. Both are 300dpi so the detail should come through. Since the 
> last one I did in 2015, a few of the versions have had to go to make room 
> for the new ones. I did the best I could with available photos I found on 
> line, or that people have sent. I never get tired of looking at all these 
> great badges - a fitting legacy for the busy crew of elves in Walnut Creek. 
>
> Hope everyone has a nice holiday season and a ride-perfect new year ahead. 
>
> Marty
> Stewartstown, Pennsylvania
>
>
> 
>
>
> 18X24 file can be downloaded here:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/38299689265/in/photostream/
>
>
> And the 9X12 here:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/24315614747/in/photostream/
>

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[RBW] Re: End of the Trail Letter from IBEX

[islaysteve]

This is sad indeed.  I'm fairly new to Ibex, bought El Fito knickers last 
year and love them.  Also have a pair of leg warmers.  Yesterday I went 
online to order a long sleeve medium weight top.  The site wouldn't let me 
complete the order, so I had to call.  The customer service lady was super 
nice and took care of my order.  They currently have 40% off many (all?) 
items, no returns.  I hope that all of the employees come out OK, we will 
miss them.


On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 4:31:51 PM UTC-5, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> https://www.ibex.com/end-of-the-trail-letter
>
> Sad day for wool enthusiasts.
>
> -Justin
>

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[RBW] Protovelo build

[islaysteve]

Yes, a great looking bike, very clean build.  I like the color.  Enjoy,
Steve 

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[RBW] Banana Bag Coming Back

[islaysteve]

I was glad to see that the Banana Bag is going to make a comeback in the 
Sackville line: 
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/asst-mid-nov-notes-on-bike-gear-here-for-the-most-part-but-miscellaneous-things-will-creep-in

I also had to laugh as the new improved Banana includes a toggle closure 
which similar to a mod that I did on my old Banana last year.  The toggle 
closure will make access to contents much easier (replaces a strap with 
buckle).  The bag is great and I was thinking that Riv really should bring 
it back so that folks here wouldn't have to find a similar one elsewhere.  
And of course there's always bagmatching.  Will I buy one?  Good 
question
Reading the post about other changes to the line, I hope that the 
Saddlesack XS doesn't go away.  I love this bag--it's my primary since my 
rides are mostly short and it carries everything I need.  And it looks 
great on the bike.  Cheers,
Steve Alkire
Kensington, MD
  

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Re: [RBW] Re: The RBW Website has a new look...

[islaysteve]

I really like the sound of a Fellowship of Rivendells:  "The autumn tour 
attracted a variety of bicycles including a Fellowship of four 
Rivendells."  But I suppose it could sound a bit Precious to some folks.  
Cheers, Steve


On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:28:37 PM UTC-5, lconley wrote:
>
> Is there an accepted collective noun (murder of crows, pod of whales, 
> etc.) for a group of Rivendells? If not, I would propose "fellowship" of 
> Rivendells in keeping with the Tolkien theme.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:57:01 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Why not start a list thread: "Post photos of all your current Rivendells, 
>> with build descriptions."
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bicycle Belle Ding Ding

[islaysteve]

Leah, I'm so happy to hear that your dog continues to do well.  It's so 
hard for us sometimes to know how our pets feel, but yours is giving you a 
pretty clear message!  Regarding your upcoming court date, I hope you're 
not stressing too much over it.  I'm not an attorney, but I did have a 
chance to testify in a somewhat similar situation involving a motorcycle 
accident which I witnessed.  Thankfully no one was killed and the cyclist 
was recovering.  Although my testimony clearly helped one party, the 
attorney for the other party did not attack me or question my competence in 
any way.  It was all quite civil.  I would hope that your case is as open 
and shut.  As you say, the testimony of the other witness will hold even 
more weight.  I know that you will come out just fine and will continue to 
be a great example to all of us.  Keep the bus rolling, Steve


On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:28:58 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Oh, Ty, thank you - I’m touched. I’m glad to hear your dog made it through 
> his surgeries and that you’ve had many happy years. They go so quickly, 
> don’t they. I hope you’re able to squeeze every last drop of joy from his 
> golden years and that you know you did your best for him. He’s clearly been 
> well-loved. And cleverly named. Cheers to Guinness! And to you. 
> PS my dog continues to defy odds and act like a puppy. I have videos to 
> prove how bad off he really was. If not for those, even I would accuse me 
> of exaggerating his pain and suffering.

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[RBW] Re: Pashley Guv'nor 22.5"

[islaysteve]

What a beautiful and unique bike!  And a good deal,too, I imagine.  Good 
thing it's too big for me and I don't ride single-speed.  Best of luck 
selling,
Steve



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Re: [RBW] Bicycle Belle Ding Ding

[islaysteve]

Leah, Welcome back!  It's so good to see you here again.  Always a pleasure 
to read your posts and enjoy your photos.  Cheers
Steve

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 1:49:18 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Hi, All! Thanks for your kind words. Let the barrage of photos begin!
>
> First off, it’s me, Leah, formerly LeahFoy. I decided to change my name to 
> match my Instagram @bicyclebelledingding. Same person riding the same bike, 
> but new (better) name.
>
> I’ve really wanted to write this post for a long time because it has been 
> a year for the books. I’ve had so many great opportunities to see the world 
> in 2017, and best of all, I often got to bring my bike. Though I’ve been 
> living in exile for 13 years in the desert, North Dakota (heretofore 
> referred to as God’s Country) will always be home. I married a Minnesota 
> boy, so that’s home, too (Diet God’s Country?). I make a pilgrimage up 
> there every summer to see our families, and I drive so that I can bring our 
> bikes. I mapped out our route this year to indulge in all manner of scenic 
> glory. We experienced hot springs and geysers, and bison roaming free. We 
> marveled at the serenity we found in lake country and shored up our 
> knowledge of American history at several national parks and national 
> monuments. We had our breath taken away by waterfalls, breathed in cold 
> mountain air and got nudged into a snowball fight with an elderly woman who 
> started it. I had the good fortune to get to set my feet on foreign soil in 
> both England and Ireland, and savor the sights and history there. It has 
> been a blessed year. I’ll include a few photos of our trips first (sans 
> bikes) and finish strong with bike photos.
>
>
>
>
> One does not leave Woman’s Best Friend in the the car. Undignified as it 
> was, he consented to being stuffed in my pack. Happiness for him is 
> wherever I am, which is how he can be convinced.
>
> Hot springs. I can’t believe these are real.
>
> The Grand Tetons. 
>
>
> There was even time to ride our bikes along the river path in Idaho Falls!
>
> Now, back to bikes. Every summer I bring our bikes to my mother-in-law’s 
> lake home. There are wonderful trails to ride, and someday, when the kids 
> are older, I hope to take the famous Heartland Trail. For now, we stick to 
> the trails in town. Pictured here is my Betty Foy, my MIL’s Clementine, and 
> my husband’s Clem. My MIL has very little bike experience, but she wanted a 
> Clementine because she knew how I loved my Betty. The step-through frame is 
> absolutely perfect for her, and the upright bars are dreamy. She has no 
> idea how to use her gears, so she just stays in the same gear and rides 
> blithely around town. She tells me she loves her bike because it’s so 
> comfortable, and it makes me so happy. 
>
> This is Minnesota in summer. It can’t be beat. Yes, those are socks I’m 
> wearing with Keens in this photo. I was forced and I blame my husband. “If 
> you’re coming for a ride I’m leaving now!” he said. I grabbed the nearest 
> pair of shoes and ran for my bike. Not my best look, but the bike is 
> pretty! Also, note the patch I had stitched onto my Saddlesack. Is that the 
> cutest or what? A blue bike for my blue bike.
>
>
> This is God’s Country in summer. It can be beat, but only by Minnesota. My 
> bike looks naked in this photo; there are no rules about streaking through 
> God’s Country!
>
> After a lovely summer, it was back to school and my Bicycle Bus. Sadly, 
> the only members of the Bicycle Bus are my two sons and me. Oddly, the 
> residents of this canyon find biking to school to be admirable, and they 
> will often see me on campus or roll down their windows on the street and 
> say so. I wish they would join me, but no takers yet. 
>
> The promised lockers at the middle school never materialized, so here I am 
> with the laptop, largest rolling backpack L.L. Bean makes, the little guy’s 
> backpack, and - new for this year - a violin. The orchestra teacher and I 
> are friends and I told her, “If you assign him the cello, you and I are 
> DONE.” We threw our heads back and laughed imagining me on Death Hill with 
> a cello in tow. This photo was the inspiration for me to create the hashtag 
> on Instagram #doesthisbikemakemelookhomeless? 
>
> My bike is outfitted with the Nitto Big Front Rack and huge Wald basket, 
> and on the back is the Nitto Big Back Rack with a pair of the old-fashioned 
> Backabike bags. On the bars is a Multisack for my keys, pepper spray and 
> iPhone. Bag matching is for sissies.
>
> I mean, I even have the musical instrument. I lack only a bucket for the 
> donations. 
>
> Well, after some miserable uphill rides with all that stuff, I got my son 
> a rack and Wald basket. You would not believe it, but just being able to 
> unload his jacket and laptop makes a difference. If anyone needs a great 
> kids’ bike, I recommend this Hotrock. His best friend (who was lots taller 
> than 

[RBW] Re: No More Rambouillet Decals @ RBW

[islaysteve]

Bruce, I responded your request or info on the Old Man Petersen decal on 
that thread.  I have also fashioned a seat tube decal using self-stick 
vinyl sheet cut into a diamond shape, with one of round RBW logo patches in 
center.  Looks quite good IMO, and is removable at any time with no damage 
to the paint.  
Steve


On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 7:06:41 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> I'm readying my blue Ram for a re-paint (going green this time) and 
> emailed Roman about decals.  He reports none left and they don't have the 
> graphics files.  Actually, that's Okay. I'd be happy with a more minimalist 
> badging anyway. I've asked about an R deat tube decal, but if that is a 
> dead end, does anyone have one of those "Old Man Peterson's Ferrous 
> Velocipedes" decals? My 52cm size only came in blue so the green will be 
> kind of neat, I think.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

[islaysteve]

Craig, I can't conceive of 25 y.o. Laphroig, but I bet it's mellow!  
Awesome job on the frame and box-lining!
Cheers, Steve


On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 11:01:51 PM UTC-4, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> When I retired Joe my work buddies pinched in and presented me with a 25 
> year old bottle of Laphroig Scotch. One small shot really helps in such 
> circumstances. Keeps those lines smooth!
>
> Craig 
>
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 12:47:00 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> You're a brave man, Craig. I love box-lining, but I wouldn't date try it 
>> myself. Well done, sir!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[islaysteve]

Great looking bike!  The brown saddle also goes well with the color.  Enjoy 
for many years!
Steve


On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:21:25 AM UTC-4, William R. wrote:
>
> Ann L: thanks! I agree the Grilver encourages all kinds of accessory color 
> experimentation! My daughter is pretty into it. She has a Diamondback that 
> we got for her at REI. It’s about as “Rivish” as such a thing can be. She 
> rides with me often. 
>
> Don: yup, as Belopsky said it is a 57cm frame and I have the saddle height 
> set at 76.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Old Man Petersen's House of Ferrous Velocipedes and Vinyl Seat Tube Decals

[islaysteve]

If you can't get one thru the original maker, message me.  I can send you a 
spare
Steve Alkire


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>
> Does anyone know if any of these are left? or Norman's email so I can ask 
> him?

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[RBW] Re: OT: New Bike Shed Day

[islaysteve]

Congratulations Erl, Finally!  They look great.  I'd be envious except that 
I'd wouldn't need all that capacity (well, room to grow, I guess...).  Hope 
to see them in person soon.  Cheers, Steve


On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 7:52:45 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>
> Riv content is the Riv contents: Rosco Bubbe, Romulus, and Road Standard.
>
> Short version: photos of my two new bike sheds recreated from two photos 
> found online: 
> https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157687667377971
>
> Longer version:  I have been searching for a bike storage solution for a 
> few years to house my burgeoning bike collection.  Lot restrictions 
> including topography and house placement precluded a full size shed or 
> detached garage as practical or aesthetically desirable solutions.  Storage 
> inside the house was not optimal or convenient.  After searching online I 
> came across this intriguing design: https://flic.kr/p/YNFCKL. It looked 
> compact and most importantly it looked like it would fit my parameters: 
> wouldn't obstruct the kitchen windows, would fit near the backdoor and 
> driveway between AC unit and screen porch, and would be easy to secure & 
> use.  After a fruitless search for plans for the shed I'd seen or an owner 
> of the photograph, I showed the photo to a few handymen and found one 
> willing to replicate it.  Since my wife and sons each have a bike, I 
> thought two sheds would be better than one!  N+1!
>
> I still need to paint the exteriors, install a lock on the doors, and 
> install some shelving and hooks inside for helmets and other gear.  (The 
> bikes are locked to each other in the meantime.)  I also need to find 
> stronger gas struts to hold the door up/open.  Overall I'm thrilled! I can 
> now keep all my bikes out of the weather, secured, and hidden all while 
> keeping them easy to take out and to secure when done!!  
> Same Photos here: 
> https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157687667377971
>
> Thanks for indulging my excitement,
> Erl
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

[islaysteve]

So I guess that the Roadini is the new Bleriot, only, you know, not 650b.  
I say this as a Bleriot owner.  I took a good look at the photos on the Riv 
site last night and it's a great-looking bike.  Similar price point to 
where the Bleriot was, and the blue color is even quite similar.  I 
personally think the Grilver is very nice, would choose that one.  I'm sure 
that the new owners will enjoy their Roadinis immensely and I look forward 
to build photos.  Cheers,
Steve Alkire
Kensington, MD

On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 3:27:46 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> It's usually me who builds fast and wants to show off, but I didn't buy a 
> Roadini, so it won't be me this time.  :-)
>
> Speaking of quick builds, I'll start a new thread...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 12:12:02 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:
>>
>> Got the call yesterday too.  Gotta make time to go pick it up.  Wonder 
>> who's going to be the first to show off their build?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Atop and Coffeeneuring #1

[islaysteve]

Patrick, Thank you for the reflections, and for of the wonderful posts 
here.  Cheers, 
Steve


On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 5:53:24 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which one thing is atop another and I accomplish Coffeeneuring #1
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/atop
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>
>
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for GPS computers?

[islaysteve]

Before I got a smartphone, I was looking into this question myself.  As of 
New Year of this year, I have a smartphone, so problem solved.  I also use 
Map My Ride, but there are other apps of course.  If you don't have a 
smartphone, you might want to look into it and do the dollars and cents 
analysis vs. purchasing a single-purpose GPS unit.  Phones now do so much; 
IMO it's totally worth it to take the plunge.  Just having a decent camera 
in your pocket (or Saddlesack XS) is practically worth it.  YMMV, Steve


On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 5:44:03 PM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Next in the series (
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/what$20do$20rivendell$20riders%7Csort:relevance
> ):
>
> What do you all use for gps units on your bikes?
>
> I am looking for minimal features:
>
> total distance
> trip distance
> climbing feet
>
>
> That is all I need. Nuttin' fancy.
> I don't care about speed, in fact i don't even want or need to see it.
>
>
> *In fact, the only reason I want a GPS is to not have wireless sensors on 
> my bike.*
>
> I know that Sigma makes a minimal one. Was wondering if anyone knows of 
> other makers besides Garmin, Sigma, Cateye.
>

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[RBW] Re: S24O C Canal

[islaysteve]

Erl, Thanks for the photos and write-up.  It's so great that you can do 
this with your sons!  I have seen the Lockhouse and have wondered what it 
would be like to spend the night there.  "Primitive camping without a tent" 
sounds good to me.  Maybe I will try it someday.  Cheers, Steve


On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 2:22:38 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>
> Yesterday, my sons, a family friend, and I rode 29 miles to a Lockhouse on 
> the C canal.  Write-up with photos here: 
> https://lightofferings.wordpress.com/2017/08/24/s24o-to-lockhouse-22/
> Riv content: a Cheviot, a Rosco Bubbe, as well as a Bridgestone RB-1 
> spotted in the wild.
>
> Write-up without photos below:
> For my younger son, each summer should include a camping trip.  For me, 
> each summer should include a bike overnight with my family and a camping 
> trip.  By bending the concept of camping, I attempted to combine both 
> around busy schedules before school started.  We recruited a family friend 
> who has accompanied us on many bike adventures and departed our house 
> riding our bikes.  
>
> After 6 miles, we stopped for an early "lunch" at an ice cream store 
> before continuing down the Capital Crescent trail to Fletcher's Boathouse. 
>  At the boathouse, we picked up the C Canal towpath and biked north.  
> http://bikewashington.org/canal/canal_b.php 
>
> The D.C. area has experienced a great deal of much needed rain this 
> summer, so I was apprehensive about the condition of the canal towpath. 
>  The National Park Service has the towpath in great shape, at least miles 
> 3-19 that we rode.  The boys took periodic breaks at a few of the locks and 
> looked for turtles and other wildlife. 
>
> At Great Falls we enjoyed a longer break and a late lunch at the snack 
> bar. 
>
> In addition, I saw a lovely Bridgestone RB1 locked to a rack.  When its 
> owner returned, he told me with great pride that the bike was older than he 
> was. 
>
> Home for the night was Lockhouse 22.  The C Canal Trust preserves a few 
> of the remaining LockHouses and rents them out on a nightly basis: 
> http://www.canaltrust.org/programs/canal-quarters/ Most have neither 
> electricity nor indoor plumbing.  There was a picnic table and fire ring 
> behind the house to eat and cook on respectively.  A stream flowed next to 
> the cabin and into the Potomac River about 100 yards away. The day had 
> dawned overcast and humid.  As we rode, a cold front passed by bringing 
> cooler and drier conditions.  The evening was lovely with a hint of Fall in 
> the air.  After hotdogs, baked beans, and s'mores we fell asleep to the 
> sounds of the stream. 
>
> Overall it was a great s24o adventure.  My youngest son said the 
> primitively cabin with a campfire was pretty close to tent camping.  It 
> also spares us from carrying tents.  To save us from retracing our route, 
> my wife picked us and our bikes up in the morning.  One realization for me 
> was that the "boys" are now 17, 16, and 14.  They ride faster and harder 
> than they used to.  And, I ride more leisurely than I used to.  While my 
> stamina in the saddle is still better, I was pushing it to keep up with 
> them over the 27 miles!  Here is an image of our route with mileage. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Velo-Orange just saved my wheel!

[islaysteve]

Glad to hear that the skewer worked for you Marc.  I too have been using 
them, although in reality, I don't leave my bike anywhere.  Not to be a 
downer, but you should know that the hollow allen wrench "key" is widely 
available on the web, and from V.O.  So it's a measure of security but not 
too ideal.  You may also know that other companies make security skewers.  
One is Hexlox, which also makes some cool security devices for all of the 
bolts on your bike.  Cheers, Steve


On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 2:57:04 PM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> I've been using their Anti-Theft skewers for years and just found out 
> they really work! 
> 
>
> Marc
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a sub-25lb. complete Rivendell?

[islaysteve]

Lum, My 51 Bleriot weighs 24 lbs without the V.O. rear rack that is 
currently mounted.  Build is drop bars, 8-spd 105 STI/brifters, no fenders, 
VO wheels and Pari Motos.  If I were to weight-weenie this bike the first 
thing I would loose would be the Brooks saddle.  It weighs over a lb.  I 
was quite comfortable for years on my road bike with a Performance 
"Titanio" saddle weighing half of what the Brooks weighs.  I'm sure that I 
would be fine with other lightweight saddles, but of course it's a personal 
thing.  My weight-weenie dreams will have to wait until I get serious about 
building up my Ti road frame again for a go-fast.  Honestly, the way to 
keep it light is to not carry stuff.  But that sort of defeats the purpose 
of a Riv, right?  Cheers, Steve


On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 6:45:49 PM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> With 10+ gears, that is...
>
> What components are on it?
> Just curious to see.
> Thinking of dropping weight for my component replacements.
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a Sackville trunksac on a Bleriot?

[islaysteve]

Grey or tan both go with the Bleriot blue IMO.  I have smaller bags in each 
color and they look good.  Had an older Olive Trunksack which I real didn't 
care for.  Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Advice for selling a Saluki/Hilsen?

[islaysteve]

An NOS Saluki/Hilsen is kind of an intriguing concept and I'm sure everyone 
here would like to see some pix, regardless of sale.  I'm no expert, but 
given what you've said, I would take your cost for the frame and the parts 
that will be sold with it, and subtract maybe $400-500??  If it is unique 
in some way (as opposed to a standard Hilsen, say) I folks may be willing 
to pay more.  Again, we need more information.  Just my thoughts.  Good 
luck, Steve



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[RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

[islaysteve]

A Dremel tool is a good investment and I'm always glad that I finally 
bought one.  But I see Bill's point about the hassle of getting it out and 
setting it up etc.  It depends on how you are set up to do shop work.  I 
have a permanent shop and can leave the Dremel out and at the ready most of 
the time.  It does a great job cutting housings, as others have said, as 
well as many other jobs.  A decent Park cable cutter will complete the 
picture.  Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: 200 miles on 10 bikes, an essentially pointless self-challenge

[islaysteve]

My challenge for today:  5 miles on each roadworthy bike in my stable.  In 
other words, my Bleriot. MET!

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[RBW] Re: Ride report / 1st tour on my Cheviot

[islaysteve]

Thanks for the great photos and writeup, Erl.  Looks like you had a 
fantastic trip and stayed in some nice places.  Can't wait to hear more 
details from you!  Steve


On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 7:21:13 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>
> Ride report/ first tour on Cheviot
>
> After commuting 1500 miles since October on my 60cm Cheviot, I figured it 
> was past time to undertake a tour with it.  My ride report on the credit 
> card tour is here:
> https://lightofferings.wordpress.com/2017/07/23/gap-trail-july-2017/
>
> The Cheviot of course lived up to my expectations.  Loaded with a large 
> Saddlesack on the rear and a basket with a Shopsack on the front, it was 
> steady, quick when needed, and comfortable.  My daily commute is 8 miles 
> each way with stops about every 2 miles for traffic lights.  I did need to 
> tweak handlebar height and angle so I was comfortable for longer distances 
> without a break.  I circumvented the single set of bottle mounts on the 
> Cheviot by carrying a bottle in the front basket and one in the Saddlesack, 
> a workable solution.  The Shopsack held my clothes and toiletries, and the 
> Saddlesack housed tools, snacks, extra sandals, raincoat, and 1st aid kit, 
> with plenty of room to add a tent and sleeping bag for when I camp.  I look 
> forward to more touring on this great bike!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Aging and Exercise

[islaysteve]

This is very interesting to me as I fall into the age category studied, and 
my exercise level of right now could be classified as "sedentary."  For 
those of you who have not read the article, one conclusion is that the 
"interval" training described seemed to be the most beneficial for our age 
group.  Since I have a bike set up on the trainer in the basement, I can 
implement that plan immediately.  That type of training could of course 
also be done during an actual bike ride, even if it does go against "just 
ride" ; ).  Something to think about.
Cheers, Steve


On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:08:18 AM UTC-4, Addison wrote:
>
> Given the interest in cycling and aging amongst this group I thought this 
> story/study might be of interest:
>
>
> https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/well/move/the-best-exercise-for-aging-muscles.html?mc=aud_dev=keywee=dommob_0=367955_4=1372898_1=605799=http://m.facebook.com
>
> Best,
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>
> Educator: Professional Portfolio 
>
> Blogger: Reno Rambler  
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Road Stnd-56cm-complete bike

[islaysteve]

I second Tony's statement that getting a frame with "Rivendell" on the down 
tube is worth a great deal! And, as if anyone needs anymore convincing, I 
too have seen this bike in person and can attest to its gorgeousness.  Erl 
does excellent builds.  Good luck Erl, I know  you are enjoying this 
weather!  Steve

On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 4:12:06 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> Bump. Still available.
> On advice, I have attached photo with bars at a more tradional height.
> All the best,
> Erl
>
> On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 6:17:14 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
> > Complete bike: $1700 shipped or $1600 local pickup-Washington DC area. 
>  F/f/hs: $900 shipped or $850 local pickup.  PayPal please.
> > 
> > I bought the f/f/hs used on eBay and built it up as a 650b conversion 
> before changing to 700c. It rides wonderfully and is beautiful!  However, 
> since acquiring my Romulus, I am mostly riding the Romulus!  I also have a 
> Cheviot to build up and ride.  Time to move this bike to an owner with time 
> to ride it! Though it pains me a bit as I will miss the gorgeous paint, 
> lugs and head badge!  As previously stated I originally built this as a 
> 650b, but the bike currently has 700c wheels and Ruffy Tuffy tires. 
>  (Photos show bike as both 650b and 700c)
> > 
> > Frame is in great condition: two notable issues-one scuff in the clear 
> coat on the top tube and a bulge on the headtube under the headbadge with a 
> corresponding paint chip-I bought the bike with these flaws.
> > 
> > Pictures here: 
> https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853
> > Happy to provide more pics if wanted.
> > 
> > Frame measurements: 56cm c-c seat tube, 57.5cm c-c top tube.  I am happy 
> to provide other measurements and photos. (I have a 75-76 cm saddle height 
> and 86cm PBH.)
> > 
> > Spectrum Tom Kellogg paint job is gorgeous!
> > Headset: Campagnolo record
> > Components included (also see photos with exceptions listed below):
> > -Tektro R539 brakes (some photos show R559 brakes which are not included)
> > -TRP brake levers 
> > -Kmc chain 
> > -Altus rear derailleur 
> > -11-32 shimano cassette 
> > -Shimano CX-70 front derailleur 
> > -Shimano 8sp shift levers 
> > -BB un55 107mm 
> > -Crankset sugino wide low double;170 crank length
> > -Nitto noodles 46cm 
> > -Nitto Technomic 280mm with 70mm reach 
> > -Tires 700x28 Ruffy Tuffy 
> > -700c wheelset 36hole Mavic A319 wheelset Shimano Tiagra hubs (130 rear 
> spacing)
> > -VO grand cru seat post 
> > -Brooks b17 saddle - blue 
> > -Bar wrap - Cinelli - blue gel cork
> > -pedals -MKS RMX Sneaker Pedals
> > 
> > 
> > Also included:  
> > -Riv saddlesack xtra small grey
> > -2 king iris bottle cages
> > 
> > NOT included but pictured in some of the photos:
> > -Frame pump
> > -Kleen kanteen bottle
> > -SKS fenders
> > -rear blinky light
> > -American flag 
> > 
> > Happy to answer questions.
> > Thanks,
> > Erl
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Schrader OK? (Cross posted from iBob)

[islaysteve]

I'm glad to have the benefit of your experience, Patrick.  Thanks to all, 
Steve


On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 12:31:49 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Or, as I do, "clean" them up periodically with violent thrusts from an 
> efficient floor pump. OS and Stan's do clog valves, but never IME enough to 
> prevent their operation. 
>
> I can't say whether Schraeders clog up more than Prestas, though.
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 9:45 AM, panog <panogia...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Whichever type of valve you end up using, consider carrying a valve core 
>> removal tool and spare cores if you use a latex based sealant like the 
>> Orange Seal as it tends to clog them.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 10:08:38 AM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response, guys.  The tubes that I bought specifically for 
>>> this application don't happen to have flats for core removal; I can 
>>> exchange them.  I'm leaning toward staying with Schrader for these wheels.  
>>> Cheers, Steve
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Re: [RBW] 650B Tires

[islaysteve]

Thanks Mark. 

On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 9:05:52 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> From what I understand, most if not all Schwalbe tubes come with removable 
> core. Other brands also make RC. I just bought a bunch in 26" and 700c for 
> my Compass tires made by, or sold under the brand XLC for about half the 
> cost of Schwalbe. Can't report yet if they are half as good cause I haven't 
> set any up yet.
> Here is one by Maxxis, but almost as expensive as Schwalbe and maybe to 
> fat for the Fasties?
>
>
> http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/tubes-max-650b-27-5x1-9-2-35-pv48-welterweight-removable-core
>
> On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 6:22:33 AM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote:
>>
>> Patrick and other Orange Seal users:  I want to try this in my daughters 
>> bike, which will soon be converted to 650b, with tubes and Maxi Fasties.  I 
>> assume I will need tubes with removable valves (Presta).  I don't think any 
>> of the tubes I have, have those; can you recommend some please?  Thanks, 
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 11:56:44 PM UTC-5, franklyn wrote:
>>>
>>> To add a data point, they do for me. I started testing Orange Seal 
>>> sealant in inner tubes on my wife and my commuters that regularly see the 
>>> worst conditions. Regularly, I will pull culprits--glass shards, 
>>> staples--out of the tires. The tires might lose some pressure while the 
>>> sealant congeals around the puncture, but by the time I discover and pump 
>>> it back up the tube/tire is sealed again.
>>>
>>> Now just about all our bikes have sealant in the tubes.
>>>
>>> Franklyn
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 8:23:14 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Patrick:
>>>>
>>>> Orange Seal’s web site only mentions using their product in tubeless 
>>>> tires. Does it work in innertubes as well?
>>>>
>>>> --Eric Norris
>>>> campyo...@me.com
>>>> www.campyonly.com
>>>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Carla -- in case it's worth repeating (it may not be) I get the best of 
>>>> both worlds by using Orange Seal or Stan's in my tubes. I ride 175 gram 
>>>> Elk 
>>>> Pass ELs on our goathead-littered bosque dirt and the sealant is, let's 
>>>> say, 95% effective (the 5% being the stop-and-pump and the even more rare, 
>>>> 1X year, tube changeout -- I carry a spare with sealant inside).
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, I've heard good things about the Cazadero.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Carla Waugh <lhtbik...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just put on some Soma Cazadero 650B tires for the goat head season 
>>>>> and so far they have been excellent and no flats. I love my Compass tires 
>>>>> but for now these will be used in goat geadcountry.
>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Schrader OK? (Cross posted from iBob)

[islaysteve]

Thanks for the response, guys.  The tubes that I bought specifically for 
this application don't happen to have flats for core removal; I can 
exchange them.  I'm leaning toward staying with Schrader for these wheels. 
 Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Schrader OK? (Cross posted from iBob)

[islaysteve]

I'm converting my daughter's bike to 650b and bought a set of wheels from a 
list member.  They are drilled for Schrader valves, but one came with a 
Presta adapter (or I lost the other one).  Anyway, I also want try putting 
Orange Seal in her tubes for flat protection, so obviously need removable 
valve cores.  It seems like the easiest thing to do is go ahead just use 
Schrader tubes.  Is there any downside to this?  I can't think of one, but 
I've only deal with Presta on my bikes for years and years now.  Thanks in 
advance, Steve

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Re: [RBW] 650B Tires

[islaysteve]

Patrick and other Orange Seal users:  I want to try this in my daughters 
bike, which will soon be converted to 650b, with tubes and Maxi Fasties.  I 
assume I will need tubes with removable valves (Presta).  I don't think any 
of the tubes I have, have those; can you recommend some please?  Thanks, 
Steve


On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 11:56:44 PM UTC-5, franklyn wrote:
>
> To add a data point, they do for me. I started testing Orange Seal sealant 
> in inner tubes on my wife and my commuters that regularly see the worst 
> conditions. Regularly, I will pull culprits--glass shards, staples--out of 
> the tires. The tires might lose some pressure while the sealant congeals 
> around the puncture, but by the time I discover and pump it back up the 
> tube/tire is sealed again.
>
> Now just about all our bikes have sealant in the tubes.
>
> Franklyn
>
> On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 8:23:14 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Patrick:
>>
>> Orange Seal’s web site only mentions using their product in tubeless 
>> tires. Does it work in innertubes as well?
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> Carla -- in case it's worth repeating (it may not be) I get the best of 
>> both worlds by using Orange Seal or Stan's in my tubes. I ride 175 gram Elk 
>> Pass ELs on our goathead-littered bosque dirt and the sealant is, let's 
>> say, 95% effective (the 5% being the stop-and-pump and the even more rare, 
>> 1X year, tube changeout -- I carry a spare with sealant inside).
>>
>> OTOH, I've heard good things about the Cazadero.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Carla Waugh  wrote:
>>
>>> I just put on some Soma Cazadero 650B tires for the goat head season and 
>>> so far they have been excellent and no flats. I love my Compass tires but 
>>> for now these will be used in goat geadcountry.
>>>
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>> *
>> ***
>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
>> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>
>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>
>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>
>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle
>>
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Re: [RBW] From the mouths of babes.

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Great post, thanks for sharing it with us!

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Do NOT buy a Rivendell bicycle with a Lift-a-tube

[islaysteve]

Well, Bill's review has really got me thinking about getting/making a strap 
handle like the one Jeremy linked to.  I don't commute, but do carry the bike 
up/down half a flight for every ride, a full flight if I want to work on it in 
the basement. The shop Jeremy linked to is "on break", so I'd have to find 
another source.  Seems like something Riv should sell, I bet the bag makers 
could make them.  Anyway, thanks Bill for the insight!

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[RBW] Re: A nice morning for a ride

[islaysteve]

Nice ride.  You know you're making most of us in the rest of the country 
envious.  Can't complain too much here, though, just a bit rainy in 
 Maryland.  Reminds me of the training schedule I followed for my first 
centuries.  Good luck, Steve


On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:37:55 PM UTC-5, Daniel Betancourt wrote:
>
> I'm on my second week of training for a century ride and today I was 
> supposed to go 35 miles (see training chart below). I normally go around 
> 10-20 miles per ride and haven't biked past 25 miles since September so I 
> was looking forward to both going longer distances and seeing how the bike 
> rode and how I felt afterward. 
>
> WEEK DATE RANGE SUN
> RECOVERY MON
> REST TUE
> INTERVAL WED
> REST THU
> INTERVAL FRI
> REST SAT
> ENDURANCE 
> 1 Jan 1-7 10 Off 10 Off 10 Off 28 
> 2 Jan 8-14 10 Off 10 Off 10 Off 35 
> 3 Jan 15-21 10 Off 15 Off 15 Off 42 
> 4 Jan 22-28 10 Off 15 Off 15 Off 49 
> 5 Jan 29-Feb 4 10 Off 20 Off 20 Off 56 
> 6 Feb 5-11 10 Off 20 Off 20 Off 63 
> 7 Feb 12-18 10 Off 25 Off 25 Off 70 
> 8 Feb 19-25 10 Off 10 Off 10 Off 100
>
>
> I first rode through downtown Oviedo which like Key West is known for 
> their roaming chickens and had to take a pic.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> There is a short offroad section which mud and rocks that I hate riding 
> over with my road bike (see pic below). The Sam handled it with no issues. 
> That is a big plus for me.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> I averaged 13.2 mph over the ride and was generally pleased with the 
> performance and lack of my back and wrists getting sore when riding my road 
> bike.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> My legs are sore from the ride but that is to be expected. I'm still 
> getting used to the saddle and haven't ridden that distance in some time so 
> I'm a bit saddle sore. Another explanation is that the saddle still isn't 
> broke in yet. One nice thing I was able to do was to change my riding 
> stance to sitting straighter up which altered the pressure on the saddle 
> more on my pubic bones and less on my groin. I don't have that option on my 
> road bike. 
>
>
> So far I'm loving this new bike! I'm having a Nitto R14 rear rack 
> installed on the bike today and looking forward to going out on a group 
> social ride around downtown Winter Park tomorrow with the wife. That should 
> be a lot of fun. 
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ATTENTION NY RIV'S

[islaysteve]

Sounds lovely, would love to be there!  But I'm sitting here with a fire 
and glass of wine in drizzly DC and I don't think I'll make it.  Hope you 
get a few other like-mined souls.  Cheers, Steve


On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 3:37:20 PM UTC-5, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Having a beer hall meeting (not to be confused with a town hall meeting) 
> this Tuesday evening, 6 pm at the Spritzenhouse 33, 33 Nassau Ave in 
> beautiful downtown Greenpoint, Brooklyn.  Object is to rehydrate, tell tall 
> tales, compare bikes, stories, parts and adventures from the last year, or 
> any year.  There will be, at the very least, me and Brad but would love a 
> bigger crowd.  Any human who has ever ridden a bike once in their life and 
> still has a pulse is invited!
>
> I'll spring for the first pitchersee you then.
>
> Alan
> NYC
>

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone used this bell?

[islaysteve]

Thanks for the response, Paul.  I do intend to get one, eventually.  As you 
say, it's a steep price for a bell, but a bell is increasingly important 
for the riding that I do.  I like the mounting flexibility that the 
Spurcycle seems to have, I need to able to reach the bell.  As for 
packaging, I was just thinking about that yesterday regarding Apple.  We 
just got iPhones.  Apple's packaging sort of makes you feel the way you 
described.  Marketing genius, I guess.  I remember that one of our earlier 
home computers came in a huge box that looked like a cow!  Cheers, 
Steve


On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 8:33:42 PM UTC-5, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> Steve, I'm down near Richmond, but can attest to the worthiness of the 
> Spurcycle bell. I was a part of the original Kickstarter campaign. After 
> that, I purchased two more (at considerably higher prices)! Very elegant, 
> minimalist and a nice piercing sound that gets attention. These guys did a 
> great job of design, down to the wonderful packaging. With each I received, 
> I felt like I was unwrapping a Faberge' egg! What sold me over anything 
> else was the ingenious way it attaches without screws, nuts, etc. Most of 
> that portion is hidden away inside the bell, with only the slender (maybe 
> 5mm) stainless strap showing. Clean! Treat yourself!
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 7:02:01 AM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know of a shop in the DC/MVA area that sells Spurcycle bells, 
>> and actually has some on display?
>> Thanks.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone used this bell?

[islaysteve]

Does anyone know of a shop in the DC/MVA area that sells Spurcycle bells, and 
actually has some on display?
Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Puzzling out a Nigel Smithe Saddlebag

[islaysteve]

I have to admit that I didn't consider velcro, but you're right, it would 
hard to sew in this application.  I used small grommets on the flap, but as 
you can see in the pic, they are starting to pull out.  Hand-sewn eyelets 
would probably be better.  The shock cord can be adjusted for length (for 
varying loads) by using barrel adjusters underneath.  Good luck, and Happy 
New Year to you and your family, Steve

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 7:53:30 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I like that idea, Steve. Thanks. I'll play with it. (my sewers will like 
> that it is much simpler than the velcro (which is very hard to sew by hand, 
> at least the stuff we have.).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 5:38:21 PM UTC-7, islaysteve wrote:
>>
>>
>> Here's the photo, didn't know how to add a photo from my iPad. 
>> Steve
>>
>> On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 7:30:26 PM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote:
>>>
>>> Patrick, I don't know if this will be helpful, but I too performed a 
>>> bucklectomy on a Baggins bag, this one a Banana.  I cut off the lower strap 
>>> (with buckle) and folded the upper strap up under the flap and secured it 
>>> with a brass screw and nut.  The fastening is via elastic shock cord, 
>>> similar to what is used on some Rando bags. Hope this photo is clear 
>>> enough, I will be glad to provide further details if you'd like them.  Your 
>>> bag is beautiful, but I understand the need to make it functional as well! 
>>>  I am so much happier with mine every time I open it to get something. 
>>>  (Will post photo in next post).  Cheers, Steve
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Puzzling out a Nigel Smithe Saddlebag

[islaysteve]

Here's the photo, didn't know how to add a photo from my iPad. 
Steve

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 7:30:26 PM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote:
>
> Patrick, I don't know if this will be helpful, but I too performed a 
> bucklectomy on a Baggins bag, this one a Banana.  I cut off the lower strap 
> (with buckle) and folded the upper strap up under the flap and secured it 
> with a brass screw and nut.  The fastening is via elastic shock cord, 
> similar to what is used on some Rando bags. Hope this photo is clear 
> enough, I will be glad to provide further details if you'd like them.  Your 
> bag is beautiful, but I understand the need to make it functional as well! 
>  I am so much happier with mine every time I open it to get something. 
>  (Will post photo in next post).  Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Puzzling out a Nigel Smithe Saddlebag

[islaysteve]

Patrick, I don't know if this will be helpful, but I too performed a 
bucklectomy on a Baggins bag, this one a Banana.  I cut off the lower strap 
(with buckle) and folded the upper strap up under the flap and secured it with 
a brass screw and nut.  The fastening is via elastic shock cord, similar to 
what is used on some Rando bags. Hope this photo is clear enough, I will be 
glad to provide further details if you'd like them.  Your bag is beautiful, but 
I understand the need to make it functional as well!  I am so much happier with 
mine every time I open it to get something.  (Will post photo in next post).  
Cheers, Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

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Leah, as usual, you are a model of positivity for us all.  Happy New Year to 
you and your family, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Cornucopia of Winter Rides

[islaysteve]

Wonderful pictures, Patrick.  Thank you for sharing with us slightly less 
adventurous folks!
Steve

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:42:09 PM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Goat Gloves

[islaysteve]

Awesome!

On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 5:30:55 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> You guys are great. A number of you (me, too!) included fashion as being a 
> consideration. Now, see below and tell me, when you were 10 and 8, if your 
> mom biked to school with with you wearing this hat and those gloves while 
> swigging homemade chicken stock would you pretend not to be related? 
> [image: image1.JPG]
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 28, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Will  
> wrote:
>
> I've been riding with leather work gloves for years. If you ever have to 
> put the bike down, it is really nice to have significant hand protection 
> (been there). The ones in your link from Riv look nice. 
>
> You can get similar at any hardware store as well.  
> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 12:34:06 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> Well, no. I want them for riding. I initially read the “good grip” part 
>> of the description as good grip for riding - probably because it’s what I’m 
>> looking for. After your response I re-read it and laughed out loud. I think 
>> you are right. 
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> Riv states clearly that those goat gloves are work gloves.  Is that what 
>> you need, work gloves?  If so, I agree with you that it's nice to give Riv 
>> the business, and I like that they are MUSA.  If I needed a pair of 
>> wood-stacking, axe swinging gloves, I would definitely give them a shot.  I 
>> would not use those gloves for cycling, as I would not use any of my 
>> current work gloves for cycling.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 9:37:58 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have these: 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/goat-gloves?variant=23335673921
>>>
>>> I have a cheap pair of velvet gloves that are worn thin. I need a new 
>>> pair and thought I'd look at Riv first. These won't win me any beauty 
>>> contests, but if they were really wonderful, I'd just as soon give Riv the 
>>> business. There are no reviews and only one photo. Anyone have and love 
>>> these? 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Goat Gloves

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Leah, I've lately been trying some cold (or cool) weather riding and what I've 
found to be surprisingly nice and versatile are my dress leather gloves, left 
over fom when I actually went to work.  They are soft leather, lined with 
cashmere.  From Bloomindales.  (I know, but they were on sale after the 
holidays.). Anyway, they are good at least down to 40 degrees, and probably 
lower.  They are not tight, and I think the extra airspace helps insulate.  
Leather blocks the wind.  Perhaps you already have something similar around.  
Just my 2 cents. Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Just ride!

[islaysteve]

Michael, I agree with you 100% about the trainer vs the outdoors. But.  There 
are and will be times, even here in temperate Maryland, that I just will not 
get out there on the bike.  Maybe not even outfor a walk.  So for about 10 min 
of my time, I can get some beneficial exercise, then get on to other things.  
To that end, I've tried to configure my dedicated trainer bike, and the space 
it's in, to be as comfortable as possible.  YMMV, of course.  Happy 
Thanksgiving, Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Want a San Marcos!

[islaysteve]

You can also take a look at Velo Orange's Constructuer front rack, which 
attaches to the eyelets on the fork tips ( I assume the SM has them).  I 
have the rear rack and it is very nice.  Have fun with the build!
Steve

On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 10:07:47 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> You could use a Nitto M1 or M18 and run extra long stays down to the 
> fender eyelets.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu  > wrote:
>
> Actually I had emailed BicycleClassics before opening this thread.  For 
> many many days I received no response.  Just about when I had given up 
> hopes of finding a new frame, I heard back.  It was quite a pleasant 
> surprise.  The only disappointment was the fork.  The version I received 
> does not have eyelets for mini rack.  A mini-rack was part of my original 
> plan (I prefer them over the other versions purely for the looks).   
>
> The frame arrived last weekend.  In the process of ordering parts.  Last 
> night I ordered Veloce 10 speed groupset from 
> http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk
>
> Going to buy several parts directly from Rev (doing my part to support 
> what they do)
>
> No I had not run into your post on internetbob (until now I did not know 
> about that group!)
>
>  
>
> On Tuesday, 15 November 2016 08:50:05 UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> Ashwath did you see my post on internetbob about BicycleClassics? They 
>> may have a 51cm frame left still
>>
>> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:36:18 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello folks, 
>>>
>>> Long time lurker, first time poster.  Have much enjoyed the discussions 
>>> and pictures here. 
>>>
>>> Big fan of Rev bikes.  Have finally decided to build San Marcos. 
>>>  However, I'm having a hard time finding a 51cm size frame.  None of the 
>>> distributors, dealers and stores seem to have one.  Any suggestions where I 
>>> might be able to source one?   Also, anybody here interested in selling 
>>> theirs? Let me know :)  Cheers.  
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[islaysteve]

Very nice; beautiful bike!


On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:29 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
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> See it here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/K1b855
>
> I originally had my Rambouillet set up as 700 x 28c. BB height of 26.5cm. 
> Still not enough fender clearance for my comfort level.
>
> After converting to 650b x 42mm, the BB height is now 26cm. Same as my 
> 650b Bleriot, and I have 170 crankarms on both bikes!! So should be as 
> pedal strike free as the Bleriot, I hope. Way more fender clearance now.
>
> Sorry for the bad fenderlines. But the plastic fenders seem to have locked 
> themselves into the shape they were in on my old Sam bike. I hope to get 
> some Honjos soon, and a VO Rando rack, as the M18 is way too high now. 
> I hope to bend the VO tang to my preferred height so it sits right over the 
> future Honjo fender.
>
> I used Tektro R559 brakes. The front brake reach is fine with Koolstop 
> Dura2 salmon pads.
> I used Kool Stop Thinline pads on the rear brake as it needed another mm 
> of reach to reach far enough.
> Standard rear R559 pads didn't reach all the way on the right rear arm of 
> calipers. Just a mm shy or so.
>
> A big shout out to Rod O'Connor (for the frame), and ttoshi, and Leslie 
> Bright from this forum for all their pointers on the conversion and 
> Rambouillet info in general!
>
> Enjoy the pics!! It rode great as a 700c. I hope to report back with a 
> 650b ride report soon.
>

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