RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-07 Thread Kevin Bednar
No problem Gary, I was just curious. Where I am located though it is a lot
easier to put something on 440 because it hasn't been all used up yet and we
do have some mountains around which help prevent to much interference
towards NYC.

Kevin 

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The reason why is I thought the 2 meter and 440 repeater pairs were all tied
up and nothing was available.  I too would like to put up a 440 machine but
I don't want to wait until the 22nd century to do it. Your located  RF wise,
between two different coordination groups. We recently had a new 2 meter
repeater in the New York area appear on one of our local repeater
frequencies down here.  Thats all, no offense intended. 
Gary K2UQ



 

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Re: [RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-07 Thread Jim B.
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
 Thanks Gary, you are correct.  I might add, I have found
 Spectrum equipment perform very well as door stops.
 
 Gary La Force [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Come on folks you no spectrum repeater are ok.


As long as you don't turn them on.


Gary N0PBM

  I would say that if he REALLY wants to do SOMETHING with this thing, 
it could be xtal'd up on his favorite repeater as a monitor/base. Find 
an antenna relay out of a mastr pro or a Mitrek or whatever to put on 
the antenna inputs and wire it to the PTT. Put an indoor antenna on it 
so you don't have to worry about lightning protection, just enough to 
put a good signal into the repeater. Oh, and rip out the internal 
controller so it doesn't repeat...

Jim





 

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-07 Thread Russ Stafford
Hey Guys,
You can always put up a repeater on 220 or 900 or 1296.
We are having lots of fun with 900 MHz. and yes you can even use a Master II
for a repeater. Lots of radio's for 900
Maxtrac's, Spectra's GTE's and even Johnson and Kenwood's.
Have fun!
73 Russ, W3CH

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 No problem Gary, I was just curious. Where I am located though it is a lot
 easier to put something on 440 because it hasn't been all used up yet and
we
 do have some mountains around which help prevent to much interference
 towards NYC.

 Kevin

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 The reason why is I thought the 2 meter and 440 repeater pairs were all
tied
 up and nothing was available.  I too would like to put up a 440 machine
but
 I don't want to wait until the 22nd century to do it. Your located  RF
wise,
 between two different coordination groups. We recently had a new 2 meter
 repeater in the New York area appear on one of our local repeater
 frequencies down here.  Thats all, no offense intended.
 Gary K2UQ





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Re: [Re: [RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]

2004-01-07 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Jim - What about all the spurs that Spectrums tend to put out?

Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I would say that if he REALLY wants to do SOMETHING with this thing, 
 it could be xtal'd up on his favorite repeater as a monitor/base. Find 
 an antenna relay out of a mastr pro or a Mitrek or whatever to put on 
 the antenna inputs and wire it to the PTT. Put an indoor antenna on it 
 so you don't have to worry about lightning protection, just enough to 
 put a good signal into the repeater. Oh, and rip out the internal 
 controller so it doesn't repeat...





 

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RE: [Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]

2004-01-07 Thread Rod Lane
Last swipe.

Let me know the booth number at Dayton.  I'll give $5 for the first shot
at it.

73 de N1FNE

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Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, this year at Dayton, Repeater Builder will be accepting donations 
 for the opportunity to smash a Spectrum Repeater with a hammer.
 
 Now I'm kidding..
 
 Let's move on folks, I believe this thread is dead

To bad
That would have been the best use for a spectrum that I could have
imagined!!!





 

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-07 Thread Neil McKie

  Are you installing a low band mobile phone system? 

  Neil 

Rob wrote:
 
 I'll take some mid-splits especially if they are already xtalled 
 up on 35.04 or 43.04 MHz!
 
 - Rob
 
 At 09:02 PM 1/6/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 
 Now you won't get an argument out of me on that one VHF Hi and VHF 
 low are pretty much $0 - $25, the mid split VHF low can't even be 
 given away, but we were originally talking about what I believe was 
 a UHF repeater.
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
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 Maybe I should rephrase that!  UHF is so hard to come by, they are
 excluded!! My company threw out a whole bunch of VHF Hi MastrII mobiles a
 few years ago.
 
 James
 
 



 

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then perform well
if you used good replacement parts.

kbednar99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question 
 anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 
 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a 
 few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO 
 option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be 
 causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to 
 say we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we 
 can sell you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does 
 anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
 controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY 
 appreciated!
 
 Kevin
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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:23 PM 1/6/2004 -0600, you wrote:

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then perform well
if you used good replacement parts.

-LOL!


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Custer
kbednar99 wrote:

Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question 
anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 
repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a 
few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO 
option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be 
causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to 
say we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we 
can sell you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY 
appreciated!

Kevin
K2KMB


Here is what I'd do:
(in the short term)

1.) Take the Spectrum exciter out and throw it away. 
2.) This next step is optional:
Smash it with a hammer so you never have any thoughts of reinstalling it.
3.) Install a used Hamtronics exciter in its place.
4.) Gut out the old control and power supply circuitry from the Spectrum.
5.) Install a NHRC-4 controller.
6.) Hook it to a Astron RS-35A/M power supply.

(in the long term)
1.) Save some money.
2.) Throw everything except #5 and 6 away above.
3.) Build or buy a real repeater.

No I'm not joking.
Kevin Custer









 

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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar
I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there
is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I
was trying to get it working. Thanks.


Kevin 

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You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then perform
well if you used good replacement parts.

kbednar99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. 
 ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. 
 Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes 
 no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but 
 it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? 
 Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we 
 discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can sell 
 you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does anyone know 
 what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as 
 the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated!
 
 Kevin
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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar
Unfortunately I'm laughing with you Ken! :o

Kevin 

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At 04:23 PM 1/6/2004 -0600, you wrote:

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

-LOL!



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar
Ok, the power supply and controller is probably doable, but no exciter
currently. Oh well, I was hoping there was SOMETHING that could be done to
repair this obviously poor excuse for a repeater. 

Kevin 

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kbednar99 wrote:

Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. 
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. 
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes 
no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but 
it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? 
Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we discontinued 
it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can sell you a manual 
if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are 
needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum 
one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated!

Kevin
K2KMB


Here is what I'd do:
(in the short term)

1.) Take the Spectrum exciter out and throw it away. 
2.) This next step is optional:
Smash it with a hammer so you never have any thoughts of reinstalling it.
3.) Install a used Hamtronics exciter in its place.
4.) Gut out the old control and power supply circuitry from the Spectrum.
5.) Install a NHRC-4 controller.
6.) Hook it to a Astron RS-35A/M power supply.

(in the long term)
1.) Save some money.
2.) Throw everything except #5 and 6 away above.
3.) Build or buy a real repeater.

No I'm not joking.
Kevin Custer









 

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread mch
Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take
the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used
MASTR II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
 
 I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately there
 is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so that's why I
 was trying to get it working. Thanks.
 
 Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
 
 You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
 power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then perform
 well if you used good replacement parts.
 
 kbednar99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
  ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
  Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes
  no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but
  it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this?
  Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we
  discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can sell
  you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does anyone know
  what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as
  the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated!
 
  Kevin
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help

2004-01-06 Thread Gary La Force
Come on folks you no spectrum repeater are ok.









As long as you don't turn them on.


Gary N0PBM

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Bednar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:36 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help

Ok, the power supply and controller is probably doable, but no exciter
currently. Oh well, I was hoping there was SOMETHING that could be done
to
repair this obviously poor excuse for a repeater. 

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Custer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:27 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help


kbednar99 wrote:

Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway. 
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater. 
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few minutes 
no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option in it but 
it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing this? 
Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we discontinued

it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can sell you a manual 
if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does anyone know what mods are

needed to run this unit with an outboard controller, as the Spectrum 
one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated!

Kevin
K2KMB


Here is what I'd do:
(in the short term)

1.) Take the Spectrum exciter out and throw it away. 
2.) This next step is optional:
Smash it with a hammer so you never have any thoughts of reinstalling
it.
3.) Install a used Hamtronics exciter in its place.
4.) Gut out the old control and power supply circuitry from the
Spectrum.
5.) Install a NHRC-4 controller.
6.) Hook it to a Astron RS-35A/M power supply.

(in the long term)
1.) Save some money.
2.) Throw everything except #5 and 6 away above.
3.) Build or buy a real repeater.

No I'm not joking.
Kevin Custer









 

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Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]

2004-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Kevin - Does that tell you something when the manufacturer won't even support
the product?

Most of us here are running repeaters that are at least 15 years old.  Several
of my repeaters were built in the late 1960's  thru the 1970's by GE (the
Mastr Pro).

 
 kbednar99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
  Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we 
  discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can 
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Re: [RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Thanks Gary, you are correct.  I might add, I have found
Spectrum equipment perform very well as door stops.

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Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]

2004-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
 Kevin Bednar wrote:
 I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately
 there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so  

Kevin - if you don't have any money to put up a repeater, then you shouldn't
be doing it in the first place.  Repeaters are a HUGH money drain if you run
them in even lower quality.   

PSSSTT- You'll spend a lot of money in parts and buying people coffee/food to
help you keep that spectrum running.  They are crap.





 

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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
 
 I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
 there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
 that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.
 
 Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
 
 You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
 power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
 perform well if you used good replacement parts.
 
 kbednar99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
  ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
  Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
  minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
  in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
this?
  Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we 
  discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can 
  sell you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does 
  anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
  controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
appreciated!
 
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RE: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar
I agree John. I thought I'd ask, but I have been convinced to dispose of
this paperweight on my next trip to the MUA. :)

Kevin

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 Kevin Bednar wrote:
 I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
 there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so

Kevin - if you don't have any money to put up a repeater, then you shouldn't
be doing it in the first place.  Repeaters are a HUGH money drain if you run
them in even lower quality.   

PSSSTT- You'll spend a lot of money in parts and buying people coffee/food
to help you keep that spectrum running.  They are crap.





 

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Re: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]

2004-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
 At least I'm
 one of the people that cares enough to NOT put drifty piece of crap
 on the air. ;)

Kevin, for that I applaud you!!!  Just a few weeks ago we had a person come on
this mail list,  ask about spectrum repeaters.  He was told all the horror
stories from many different people about all their problems.  Then he
announced that he thinks he can make one work using better technical standards
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RE: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar
 Well, considering the technical standards (or lack thereof) that Spectrum
uses I gues ANYTHING is an improvement! ;) LOL

Kevin

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Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
 At least I'm
 one of the people that cares enough to NOT put drifty piece of crap on 
 the air. ;)

Kevin, for that I applaud you!!!  Just a few weeks ago we had a person come
on this mail list,  ask about spectrum repeaters.  He was told all the
horror stories from many different people about all their problems.  Then he
announced that he thinks he can make one work using better technical
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RE: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]

2004-01-06 Thread Kim Carr
I've watched this thread and can't resist contributing my experiences.

I supported a Spectrum SCR-1000 VHF repeater for my ham club for more
than 3 years. It never operated to our satisfaction.  Key problems:

1. Transmitter spurs caused by leaky caps that overheated.
2. Poor power supply design - Darlington TO-3 pass transistor would fail
short circuit, placing 18V unregulated on the TX and RX.
3. Original receiver was obsoleted by Spectrum as it lacked adequate IF
selectivity. The new RX wasn't much better.
4. Receiver pre-selector had a higher noise figure than the front end of
the RX. The repeater actually heard better without the pre-selector.

We finally dumped it and got a GE 100w Master. After we learned to
improve cooling and run it at 80w rather than to reduce power in the PA,
it was clean and worked flawlessly.

My two cents...

Kim, K5TU



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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:13 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]

 Well, considering the technical standards (or lack thereof) that
Spectru
m
uses I gues ANYTHING is an improvement! ;) LOL

Kevin

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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:02 PM
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Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
 At least I'm
 one of the people that cares enough to NOT put drifty piece of crap on

 the air. ;)

Kevin, for that I applaud you!!!  Just a few weeks ago we had a person
come
on this mail list,  ask about spectrum repeaters.  He was told all the
horror stories from many different people about all their problems.
Then he
announced that he thinks he can make one work using better technical
standards (or some foolish statement like that).





 

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread James






Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc.
and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:

  Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  
I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

"kbednar99" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
  

  
  this?
  
  

  Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we 
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can 
sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
  

  
  appreciated!
  
  

  Kevin
K2KMB






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help

2004-01-06 Thread Mike Morris
Kevin Bednar wrote:

... Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to
say we discontinued it over 10 years ago

I wonder why they discontinued it?   (smirk)

and can't help you

In other words, we want nothing to do with it

and we can sell you a manual if you want though!.

Translation: You're on your own!

Thats great. Also, does
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks.

Trace the audio and PTT lines and disconnect the internal controller.
Add your choice of connector(s) to the RX audio out, COR out and PL
decoder out leads and to the TX audio in and PTT leads.  Then build
up your own interconnecting cable to go to an external controller.

Any and all help is GREATLY appreciated!

Kevin
K2KMB

Later on he wrote:

I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.)

Missing boards can be acquired, please state what was missing ...

And the PA is repairable, unless it's a lightning strike...

And if it's a high power model, and the final is toasted, you might
actually want to bypass the final and run it at the 40-45w level.

Mike 




 

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread James






Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors
are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a
few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or
free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is
good.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:

  
  
  
  Unfortunately James the unit was
tossed a few weeks back. :(
  
  Kevin
  
  
  From: James
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  
  
  Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  

  I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

"kbednar99" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  
Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
  
  

this?
  

  
Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we 
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can 
sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
  
  

appreciated!
  

  
Kevin
K2KMB






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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey





I'd like a line on those free Mastr II UHF 
radios.

Chuck
WB2EDV




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  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:43 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater 
  Help]
  Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola 
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  had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or 
  free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is 
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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

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Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. 
:(

Kevin


From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] 
Repeater Help]
Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.unless of course it is lightning toast.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

"kbednar99" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
  this?
  
  
Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we 
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can 
sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
  appreciated!
  
  
Kevin
K2KMB






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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar





Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. 
I'll keep looking.

Kevin
K2KMB


From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] 
Repeater Help]
Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:

  
  Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. 
  :(
  
  Kevin
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
  Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

"kbednar99" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
  this?
  

  Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we 
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can 
sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
  appreciated!
  

  Kevin
K2KMB






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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar





Me too Chuck! ;)

Kevin
K2KMB


From: Chuck Kelsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:53 PMTo: 
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Repeater Help]




I'd like a line on those free Mastr II UHF 
radios.

Chuck
WB2EDV




  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:43 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater 
  Help]
  Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola 
  shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we 
  had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or 
  free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is 
  good.James
  

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Jeff Otterson
Kevin,
   What parts do you need for your MASTR II?

Jeff

At 06:52 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote:
Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and 
some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:

Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:


I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

kbednar99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing


this?


Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can
sell you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY


appreciated!


Kevin
K2KMB






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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Lee Williams





ARRRGGGH! Never toss a MastrII. I could have donated some 
parts at least.Oh well.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Bednar 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:03 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater 
  Help]
  
  Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. 
  :(
  
  Kevin
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
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  Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.unless of course it is lightning toast.James










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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar
Unfortunately Jeff, the Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back because we were
unable to get the replacement parts. :( So I am now in need of a whole radio
since the Spectrum is crap and will be tossed as well. :(

Kevin 
K2KMB

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Otterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:16 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Kevin,
   What parts do you need for your MASTR II?

Jeff

At 06:52 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote:
Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. 
and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:

Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an 
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of 
the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon 
further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a 
Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would 
not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone 
else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, 
take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as 
a used MASTR II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:


I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: 
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

kbednar99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be 
causing


this?


Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we 
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can 
sell you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY


appreciated!


Kevin
K2KMB






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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar





Sorry guys, I didn't know better. :( I do now though. 
Thanks for all the kind words and offers for help. It is greatly appreciated! I 
truly believe hams are some of the kindest, most giving individuals I have met. 
Most of them are truly in it for the hobby and to help, and it shows in all the 
help I have received from hams in the other parts of this project as well! You 
guys are great! 

Kevin
K2KMB


From: Lee Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:20 PMTo: 
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ARRRGGGH! Never toss a MastrII. I could have donated some 
parts at least.Oh well.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Bednar 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:03 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater 
  Help]
  
  Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. 
  :(
  
  Kevin
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.unless of course it is lightning toast.James

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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar





Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old 
Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following 
shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to convert now. :( 
Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the help I get from this 
group!

Kevin
K2KMB


From: Maire Company 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 
8:21 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: 
[[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]





what kind of Micro parts do you 
need?


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Bednar 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater 
  Help]
  
  Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. 
  I'll keep looking.
  
  Kevin
  K2KMB
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:
  

Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks 
back. :(

Kevin


From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

"kbednar99" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
  this?
  
  
Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we 
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can 
sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
  appreciated!
  
  
Kevin
K2KMB






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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Maire Company





what kind of Micro parts do you 
need?


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Bednar 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater 
  Help]
  
  Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. 
  I'll keep looking.
  
  Kevin
  K2KMB
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:
  

Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks 
back. :(

Kevin


From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

"kbednar99" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
  this?
  
  
Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we 
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can 
sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
  appreciated!
  
  
Kevin
K2KMB






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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread James







Kevin,

 I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you
mentioned frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the
exciter board and resolder all connections (provided that you've
checked the simple stuff, ie power supply regulation, dirty trimmers,
etc.). If that does not yield anything, then maybe you could replace
the trimmer for the xtal as it could be affected by temperature.

Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when
you have nothing to put on the air.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:

  
  
  
  Unfortunately, we have NO usable
radio right now. The old Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the
POS Spectrum will be following shortly. :( I am actually in need of a
complete UHF radio to convert now. :( Thanks for your reply though! I
really appreciate all the help I get from this group!
  
  Kevin
  K2KMB
  
  
  From: Maire
Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  
  
  
  
  what kind of Micro parts do
you need?
  
  
-
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From:
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Bednar 
To:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Sent:
Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject:
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Thanks Jim. I already checked
the local shops, no luck. I'll keep looking.

Kevin
K2KMB


 From: James
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:


  
  Unfortunately James the unit was
tossed a few weeks back. :(
  
  Kevin
  
  
   From:
James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  
  
  Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  

  I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

"kbednar99" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  
Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
  
  

this?
  

  
Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we 
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can 
sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
  
  

appreciated!
  

  
 

RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Jeff Otterson
You tossed a MASTR II?

Sacrilege!

At 08:23 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote:
Unfortunately Jeff, the Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back because we were
unable to get the replacement parts. :( So I am now in need of a whole radio
since the Spectrum is crap and will be tossed as well. :(

Kevin
K2KMB

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Otterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:16 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Kevin,
What parts do you need for your MASTR II?

Jeff

At 06:52 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote:
 Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc.
 and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.
 
 unless of course it is lightning toast.
 
 James
 
 Kevin Bednar wrote:
 
 Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
 OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of
 the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon
 further inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a
 Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would
 not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone
 else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.
 
 Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
 To:
 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
 
 
 Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay,
 take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as
 a used MASTR II or Micor)
 
 Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.
 
 Joe M.
 
 Kevin Bednar wrote:
 
 
 I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately
 there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so
 that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.
 
 Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
 To:
 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 .com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
 
 You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
 power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then
 perform well if you used good replacement parts.
 
 kbednar99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
 ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
 Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few
 minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option
 in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be
 causing
 
 
 this?
 
 
 Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we
 discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can
 sell you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does
 anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard
 controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
 
 
 appreciated!
 
 
 Kevin
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2004-01-06 Thread James






Maybe I should rephrase that! UHF is so hard to come by, they are
excluded!! My company threw out a whole bunch of VHF Hi MastrII mobiles
a few years ago. 

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:

  
  
  
  Me too Chuck! ;)
  
  Kevin
  K2KMB
  
  
  From: Chuck
Kelsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:53 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  
  
  
  
  
  I'd like a line on those free Mastr
II UHF radios.
  
  Chuck
  WB2EDV
  
  
  
  
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Sent:
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Subject:
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors
are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a
few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or
free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is
good.

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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar





Thanks for the reply James. I'll figure SOMETHING out. 
:)

Kevin
K2KMB


From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:45 PMTo: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] 
Repeater Help]
Kevin, I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you mentioned frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter board and resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple stuff, ie power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not yield anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it could be affected by temperature.Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when you have nothing to put on the air.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:

  
  Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old 
  Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following 
  shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to convert now. :( 
  Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the help I get from this 
  group!
  
  Kevin
  K2KMB
  
  
  From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  
  

  what kind of Micro parts do you 
  need?
  
  
- 
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From: 
Kevin 
Bednar 
To: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: 
Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM
Subject: 
RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. 
I'll keep looking.

Kevin
K2KMB


From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:


  
  Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks 
  back. :(
  
  Kevin
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
perform well if you used good replacement parts.

"kbednar99" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO option 
in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be causing
  this?
  

  Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say "we 
discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you" and "we can 
sell you a manual if you want though!". Thats great. Also, does 
anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
controller, as the S

RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar
I know, I can feel the heat on my arse from everyone on here. LOL :) I will
NEVER do it again, I promise! :)

Kevin
K2KMB 

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Otterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


You tossed a MASTR II?

Sacrilege!

At 08:23 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote:
Unfortunately Jeff, the Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back because we 
were unable to get the replacement parts. :( So I am now in need of a 
whole radio since the Spectrum is crap and will be tossed as well. :(

Kevin
K2KMB

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Otterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:16 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Kevin,
What parts do you need for your MASTR II?

Jeff

At 06:52 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote:
 Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc.
 and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.
 
 unless of course it is lightning toast.
 
 James
 
 Kevin Bednar wrote:
 
 Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for 
 an OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically 
 because of the lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated 
 but upon further inspection was missing a board and the PA was 
 toast.) or a Micor but unfortunately no one was able to donate one. 
 I myself would not want to go the ebay route because I wouldn't want 
 to screw someone else over with the same POS problems I'm experiencing
with it. Thanks.
 
 Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
 To:
 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
 
 
 Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, 
 take the money, and buy something that will work much better. (such 
 as a used MASTR II or Micor)
 
 Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.
 
 Joe M.
 
 Kevin Bednar wrote:
 
 
 I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but 
 unfortunately there is $0 to replace it with something else. I 
 didn't pay for it so that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.
 
 Kevin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
 To:
 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps
 .com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
 
 You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components:
 power supply, transmitter, receiver, controller.  It should then 
 perform well if you used good replacement parts.
 
 kbednar99 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question anyway.
 ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000 repeater.
 Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a few 
 minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO 
 option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might 
 be causing
 
 
 this?
 
 
 Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to say we 
 discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we can 
 sell you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does 
 anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard 
 controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
 
 
 appreciated!
 
 
 Kevin
 K2KMB
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Paul Finch





Kevin,

Are 
you looking for 2 meters or 440? You may want to look into a Johnson 530 
or 559 depending on which bandyou want. They are cheap at swap fests 
and very dependable, I usually buy them for 5 to 15 dollars. I have been 
running one on each band for over five years and zero failures. Don't get 
me wrong, I feel there is not much better radio than a GE Master II, I have 
several of them also but for ease of conversion and if high power is not needed 
you can't beat the Johnson.

Paul
WB5IDM


  -Original Message-From: Kevin Bednar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:01 
  PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
  [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  Thanks for the reply James. I'll figure SOMETHING out. 
  :)
  
  Kevin
  K2KMB
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:45 PMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] 
  Repeater Help]
  Kevin, I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you mentioned frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter board and resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple stuff, ie power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not yield anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it could be affected by temperature.Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when you have nothing to put on the air.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:
  

Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The 
old Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be 
following shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to 
convert now. :( Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the 
help I get from this group!

Kevin
K2KMB


From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]



what kind of Micro parts do you 
need?


  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Bednar 
  To: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: 
  Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM
  Subject: 
  RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  
  Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no 
  luck. I'll keep looking.
  
  Kevin
  K2KMB
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:

  

Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks 
back. :(

Kevin


From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  I kinda figured that John from what I've been told, but unfortunately 
there is $0 to replace it with something else. I didn't pay for it so 
that's why I was trying to get it working. Thanks.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: JOHN MACKEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

You can best modify the spectrum by replacing the following components

RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar





I'm looking for 440 Paul. I like the Mastr II's as well, 
and am very much a Motorolan at heart. Most of my commercial gear is the big M. 
;) I dont really know ANYTHING about Johnson, other than the name. :) Thanks for 
the input!

Kevin
K2KMB


From: Paul Finch 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 
9:13 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
[[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
Kevin,

Are 
you looking for 2 meters or 440? You may want to look into a Johnson 530 
or 559 depending on which bandyou want. They are cheap at swap fests 
and very dependable, I usually buy them for 5 to 15 dollars. I have been 
running one on each band for over five years and zero failures. Don't get 
me wrong, I feel there is not much better radio than a GE Master II, I have 
several of them also but for ease of conversion and if high power is not needed 
you can't beat the Johnson.

Paul
WB5IDM


  -Original Message-From: Kevin Bednar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:01 
  PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
  [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  Thanks for the reply James. I'll figure SOMETHING out. 
  :)
  
  Kevin
  K2KMB
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:45 PMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] 
  Repeater Help]
  Kevin, I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you mentioned frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter board and resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple stuff, ie power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not yield anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it could be affected by temperature.Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when you have nothing to put on the air.JamesKevin Bednar wrote:
  

Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The 
old Mastr II was tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be 
following shortly. :( I am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to 
convert now. :( Thanks for your reply though! I really appreciate all the 
help I get from this group!

Kevin
K2KMB


From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]



what kind of Micro parts do you 
need?


  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Bednar 
  To: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: 
  Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM
  Subject: 
  RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]
  
  Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no 
  luck. I'll keep looking.
  
  Kevin
  K2KMB
  
  
  From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Good luck, If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors are coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few). Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in many cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:

  

Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks 
back. :(

Kevin


From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.

unless of course it is lightning toast.

James

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an
OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the
lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further
inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but
unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go
the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the
same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take the
money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR
II or Micor)

Personally, I wouldn't do that to someone else, but it is your choice.

Joe M.

Kevin Bednar wrote:
  
  I kinda figured that John from what I've been told

Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread albemarle7
Kevin - K2KMB,
What frequency is your repeater going on?
Gary  K2UQ



 

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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Bednar
Well, I had the Spectrum set on 444.500, why? I was also looking at a pair
on 447.

Kevin
K2KMB 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:56 PM
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Kevin - K2KMB,
What frequency is your repeater going on?
Gary  K2UQ



 

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread Charles Miller
Kevin,

I have a MastrII that is tuned up on 443.350 TX and 448.350 rx. Been
modified for full duplex. What is it worth?

Charles Miller

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


 I'm looking for 440 Paul. I like the Mastr II's as well, and am very much
a
 Motorolan at heart. Most of my commercial gear is the big M. ;) I dont
 really know ANYTHING about Johnson, other than the name. :) Thanks for the
 input!

 Kevin
 K2KMB

   _

 From: Paul Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:13 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


 Kevin,

 Are you looking for 2 meters or 440?  You may want to look into a Johnson
 530 or 559 depending on which band you want.  They are cheap at swap fests
 and very dependable, I usually buy them for 5 to 15 dollars.  I have been
 running one on each band for over five years and zero failures.  Don't get
 me wrong, I feel there is not much better radio than a GE Master II, I
have
 several of them also but for ease of conversion and if high power is not
 needed you can't beat the Johnson.

 Paul
 WB5IDM


 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Bednar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:01 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


 Thanks for the reply James. I'll figure SOMETHING out. :)

 Kevin
 K2KMB

   _

 From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:45 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]



 Kevin,

 I know that the RECTUM (oops spectrum) isn't much, but you mentioned
 frequency drift. First, you might want to go through the exciter board and
 resolder all connections (provided that you've checked the simple stuff,
ie
 power supply regulation, dirty trimmers, etc.). If that does not yield
 anything, then maybe you could replace the trimmer for the xtal as it
could
 be affected by temperature.

 Please don't flame me for trying to help him, i know how it can be when
you
 have nothing to put on the air.

 James

 Kevin Bednar wrote:

 Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr II was
 tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following shortly.
:( I
 am actually in need of a complete UHF radio to convert now. :( Thanks for
 your reply though! I really appreciate all the help I get from this group!

 Kevin
 K2KMB

   _

 From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:21 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


 what kind of Micro parts do you need?


 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bednar
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:56 PM
 Subject: RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

 Thanks Jim. I already checked the local shops, no luck. I'll keep looking.

 Kevin
 K2KMB

   _

 From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:44 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


 Good luck,  If you check with some of your local Motorola shops, Micors
are
 coming out of service regularly (if any are left, I know we had a few).
 Micors and MastrII's in their virgin forms can be had cheap or free in
many
 cases. Even if you get a mobile style of either, it is good.



 James



 Kevin Bednar wrote:



 Unfortunately James the unit was tossed a few weeks back. :(

 Kevin

   _

 From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:53 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]


 Mastr II PA's should be easy to rebuild?? A few new transistors, etc. and
 some TLC and that would work better than any ham grade stuff.



 unless of course it is lightning toast.



 James



 Kevin Bednar wrote:



 Unfortunately Joe, everything for this project is being donated for an

 OEM/RACES project to improve county coverage, specifically because of the

 lack of $$. I also wanted a Mastr II (got one donated but upon further

 inspection was missing a board and the PA was toast.) or a Micor but

 unfortunately no one was able to donate one. I myself would not want to go

 the ebay route because I wouldn't want to screw someone else over with the

 same POS problems I'm experiencing with it. Thanks.



 Kevin



 -Original Message-

 From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM

 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]





 Well, if you really have the 'anatomy' to do this: Sell it on eBay, take
the

 money, and buy something that will work much better. (such as a used MASTR

 II

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help

2004-01-06 Thread Charles Miller
Kevin,

I think I have 2 UHF MastrII and at least 1 VHF MastrII. It might be just
the opposite. I will check and let you know.

Charles Miller

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:32 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Was:Repeater Help (aka:Spectrum Flamefest 2K3!)


 All,
 I am doing this to try and get as close to total county coverage via HT as
I
 can. There is another UHF machine at the other end of the county that I am
 going to link to via Echolink when we are deployed. I am also working on
an
 incident reporting system that will use SQL as a back end and can be
 accessed via TCP/IP over RF and via the internet for personnel/resource
 tracking and assignment, scheduling, traffic passing and record keeping,
 etc, etc. Once completed I will be releasing it as freeware for other hams
 to use for RACES/ARES work. Let me know if anyone is interested in helping
 beta test and guide the direction/design of this program. The more, the
 merrier! :)  Thanks again to everyone on the list!

 Kevin
 K2KMB






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Re: [Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]

2004-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Go to bed, Coy.

ac0y5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OHSTOP.JOHN!
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Kevin - Don't over-react on the spectrum by throwing it out 
 before
  considering other uses.  Remember my earlier post when I said they 
 make good
  door stops???
  
  Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Unfortunately, we have NO usable radio right now. The old Mastr 
 II was
   tossed a few weeks back and the POS Spectrum will be following 
 shortly. :(
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Re: [Re: [RE: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]]

2004-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Coy, are you saying you are the one who made foolish statements?

ac0y5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 AND I DID. 
 
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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sometimes it's just better to join up with a compatible group of hams and
help their group. That often becomes a win-win situation - some people have
access to equipment, some have access to good sites, some are great groups
that can expand their system with a few like-minded members helping out the
coffers. I know that if I ever moved to California, several groups that I'd
be bringing my donations of equipment, controllers, etc. to and we'd all be
happy campers.
LJ

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The reason why is I thought the 2 meter and 440 repeater pairs were all
tied 
up and nothing was available.  I too would like to put up a 440 machine but
I 
don't want to wait until the 22nd century to do it. Your located  RF wise, 
between two different coordination groups. We recently had a new 2 meter
repeater 
in the New York area appear on one of our local repeater frequencies down 
here.  Thats all, no offense intended. 
Gary K2UQ



 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help

2004-01-06 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
The reciever is pretty good, but from everything we have found here the
transmitter will work best in the trunk of a tucker torpedo - otherwise
using it as portable ballast from an amphibious car would be the best
way to use it. Both GE and Motorola made a repair kit for the spectrum
radio family, look for a micor or a mastr at a hamfest.

kbednar99 wrote:
 
 Ok, at the risk of being flamed I am gonna' ask this question
 anyway. ;) I have inherited a Spectrum Communications SCR-4000
 repeater. Receive seems to work fine but the TX freq drifts after a
 few minutes no matter how many times I reset it. It has the TCXO
 option in it but it doesnt seem to matter. Any Ideas on what might be
 causing this? Spectrum has been LESS than helpful, other than to
 say we discontinued it over 10 years ago and can't help you and we
 can sell you a manual if you want though!. Thats great. Also, does
 anyone know what mods are needed to run this unit with an outboard
 controller, as the Spectrum one sucks. Any and all help is GREATLY
 appreciated!
 
 Kevin
 K2KMB
 

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Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]

2004-01-06 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
I think you should send it to Kevin so he can hit it with a hammer, when
he is done I will come over and melt some of it with a blowtorch while
he takes the pictures, I am sure someone will step in with a
hammerdrill. Maybe bring it to dayton and charge 1 buck a hit in the
flea market area, you could then buy a converted unit from Kevin.

Chuck Kelsey wrote:
 
 Actually, you need to make all these Spectrum bashers happy. Take a picture
 of someone taking a sledgehammer to it and email the picture to Kevin so he
 can post it on the Repeater Builder's website. Then whenever someone feels
 the need, that URL can be posted and everyone will feel better.
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 9:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]
 
  Kevin - Don't over-react on the spectrum by throwing it out before
  considering other uses.  Remember my earlier post when I said they make
 good
  door stops???
 

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]

2004-01-06 Thread albemarle7
The reason why is I thought the 2 meter and 440 repeater pairs were all tied 
up and nothing was available.  I too would like to put up a 440 machine but I 
don't want to wait until the 22nd century to do it. Your located  RF wise, 
between two different coordination groups. We recently had a new 2 meter 
repeater 
in the New York area appear on one of our local repeater frequencies down 
here.  Thats all, no offense intended. 
Gary K2UQ



 

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Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]

2004-01-06 Thread Kevin Custer


Virden Clark Beckman wrote:

I think you should send it to Kevin so he can hit it with a hammer, when
he is done I will come over and melt some of it with a blowtorch while
he takes the pictures, I am sure someone will step in with a
hammerdrill. Maybe bring it to dayton and charge 1 buck a hit in the
flea market area, you could thensnip


Sounds like a great money maker.  Maybe from the donations taken, I 
won't have to beg for money to host the Repeater Builder site next year.

So, this year at Dayton, Repeater Builder will be accepting donations 
for the opportunity to smash a Spectrum Repeater with a hammer.

Now I'm kidding..

Let's move on folks, I believe this thread is dead

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Re: [Re: [RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Help]]]

2004-01-06 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, this year at Dayton, Repeater Builder will be accepting donations 
 for the opportunity to smash a Spectrum Repeater with a hammer.
 
 Now I'm kidding..
 
 Let's move on folks, I believe this thread is dead

To bad
That would have been the best use for a spectrum that I could have imagined!!!





 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater help

2003-11-02 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
If it hasn't been pointed out previously, a visit to the
repeater-builder web site would be the second or third place to take a
virtual trip into repeaters. The first 2 places would be equipment
manufacturers web sites to gain some idea on the cost of new and another
would be with a tower maintenance company who would be hired to get you
the antenna site. Having visited the first 2 you will have an idea of
the capital required to begin your adventure, the making of a repeater
is not as easy as picking fresh fruit at the local market, when you can
be more specific with troubleshooting help needed there is a good host
of help here to bring you out of the stumbling blocks and remind you
that the majority of the trouble with a repeater is either the tower
site can't hear or is too close to another one like yours and you will
be sitting inside of innermod alley - or just another 2-3 hundred hours
needed to build that unique bandpass-reject filter to help the cavity
style used by everyone. In some cases they go up and stay on the air
without much extra tuning, these were thought out slowly after many
hours of research which is where you are beginning.

kc2cfy wrote:
 
 I am hoping to find some help on building or buying my own
 repeater.  I have a few questions to ask:
 
 A. Where can I buy a repeater?
 B. Does it come with everything I need?
 C. How hard is it to setup?  How long does it take?
 
 I guess we can start there, for now.
 
 73!
 Michael KC2CFY
 
 
 
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