CS>Voltage

[mukta1]

Hi Wayne, group,

I'd like to share my CS experience. I made my generator as
per Jim Meissner from another forum. Two 1.5 volt batteries,
a total of 3 v. supply. According to Jim after 24 hours the
quart of distilled water will have 5-10 ppm, after 48 hours
- 15-20 ppm.

I measured the starting current and it was between 80 and
180 microamps for my arrangement depending on DW quality. I
buy now only from the 80 uA source.

Usually after a day or two the current is below 1 mA and
water colour is light yellow to dark yellow.

I do not use other measurements except for voltage and
amperage.

Wayne, an idea - since you do not like regular power supply,
why you do not try to supply the generator by an antena
taking energy from the local radio broadcasting through a
diode. Possibly you will need a week for a batch.

Simeon


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CS>Milliamps

[CWFugitt]

That's what I said   lol

   Yes, you were right.

Still, it needed to be clearly stated as Dan stated it.


1,000,000 milliamps to make 1 amp?


  The one million is micro amps.  You won't see much of it.
Only in a few circuits is this unit involved.

Plus, only very good meters will measure micro amps and micro 
volts.   Often leakage current and induced voltage produces this small 
amount of current.


Years back, in large buildings, using high quality analog meters, induced 
voltage would measure 75 to 100 volts AC.


A few times, when I first discovered this, it led me on a wild goose 
chase.  After I learned more about it, it was easy to identify as induced 
voltage.  Only the older technicians will remember these good old days of 
the high quality analog meters.


Not sure what year we all went to digital meters.  They had some 
disadvantaged that the analog did not have.  Soon we learned how 
to  overcome that.


Enough history.

Wayne

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Re: CS>Brain Injuries

[Colin Quinney]

http://www.comarecovery.org/

- Original Message - 
From: "joe bloggs" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: CS>Brain Injuries


Does anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries?  My 21 year old 
son was involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of Saturday 
morning and has had two operations and is in a coma, on life support.  I 
don't know whether to pray for his death or his life because I don't know 
the quality of life expected - nobody knows.  If anyone has any 
information, please share it.  Thank you.

Frankie

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RE: CS>cat problems

[David Kenney]

What is the breed?
How old is the cat?

Nasal tumors almost, if not always cause sneezing...eventually with blood.
Severe parasite infestations can cause all of the symptoms here.
Recommend a fecal exam to make sure parasites are gone...
What is the climate where this cat lives.  Hot? Humid?
CS will hold down secondary infections but otherwise is useless for problems
like those listed here.
Answer the above and I will comment more.
Dr. Dave (DVM,ND)


-Original Message-
From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com]
On Behalf Of Acmeair
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:12 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>cat problems

since our archives are still down, i'll ask for some hep, from the cat
"people" on this list. 

my friend, has a cat that she inherited, along with another that didn't make
it. both cats had bad worm infections, round worms, i think. this lady has
had this last cat on CS for almost a year, and the cat appears robust,
except, now she is throwing up her meals. and consequently losing
weight.

she has been going to a vet, that is into alternate stuff, but she is at a
loss for ideas. somehow the idea of a nasal area tumor has come up.

any ideas from those of you that have had some esperience?

thanks, peeps,,, jim


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CS>cat problems

[Acmeair]

since our archives are still down, i'll ask for some hep, from the cat "people" 
on this list. 

my friend, has a cat that she inherited, along with another that didn't make 
it. both cats had bad worm infections, round worms, i think. this lady has had 
this last cat on CS for almost a year, and the cat appears robust,except,   
  now she is throwing up her meals. and consequently losing weight.

she has been going to a vet, that is into alternate stuff, but she is at a loss 
for ideas. somehow the idea of a nasal area tumor has come up.

any ideas from those of you that have had some esperience?

thanks, peeps,,, jim


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Re: CS>Milliamps

[Clayton Family]

That's what I said   lol
On Jul 11, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Dan Nave wrote:


1 milliamp is one thousandth of an amp
so 1 amp equals 1000 milliamps.

Dan

Clayton Family wrote:

1000
On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Keithmj wrote:
Just a quick question. Taking advice from others I have been doing 
my homework on Ohm's law. I have found several Ohms Law Calculators 
on the internet that help. My question is this. Is 1 amp equal to 
1000 milliamps? or does it take 1,000,000 milliamps to make 1 amp? 
I'd say 1000 but wanted to make sure.. 
http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/calcohms.htm and 
http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslaw.asp is two good 
sites..Cheers..Keithmj

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Re: CS>Brain Injuries

[Clayton Family]

What a trajedy!

I did work with a specialist in mild traumatic brain injury (for other 
reasons), and he advised me to eat a balance of omega 3 oils, like flax 
oil, because the myelin sheath needs omega 3's for healing. He works 
with people that can make it to his office, so it might go on a to do 
list. He helps people re-program the brain, using a kind of EEG, called 
QEEG, it is kind of like biofeedback. The local veterans hospital 
specialist calls him up on the hard cases he gets.


Perhaps with such a traumatic injury, using homeopathic remedies like 
rescue remedy (which can be sprayed on the skin), arnica, there are 
several that help the body get over accidents. The acupressure points 
sound like a reasonable idea, too. If you know a good Traditional 
Chinese Medicine dr, they can work wonders with acupuncture, and mine 
was willing to go to the hospital for us once.


Please accept my sincere condolences for the injury of your son- I know 
it could happpen to any of us. Best Wishes,   Kathryn


On Jul 10, 2007, at 6:45 PM, joe bloggs wrote:

Does anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries?  My 21 year 
old son was involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of 
Saturday morning and has had two operations and is in a coma, on life 
support.  I don't know whether to pray for his death or his life 
because I don't know the quality of life expected - nobody knows.  If 
anyone has any information, please share it.  Thank you.

Frankie

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Re: CS>Brain Injuries

[Dan Nave]

From "DMSO Nature's Healer" by Dr. Morton Walker 1993

INJURIES OF THE BRAIN AND SPINAL CORD

An important possible advance in the prevention of paralysis 
after injuries to the brain and spinal cord, DMSO is being 
studied for this purpose at four centers of learning.  One 
of them is the University of Miami School of Medicine, where 
Jack C.  de la Torre, M.D., is Associate Professor of 
Neurosurgery and Psychiatry and Chief of the Department of 
Neurological Research.  By 1992, he had been working with 
the compound for about twelve years.  Dr.  de la Torre first 
illustrated his findings at a November 1980 scientific 
conference of the DMSO Society of Florida, Inc.  held in 
Sarasota, Florida.


Studying monkeys that were given an occlusion of the middle 
cerebral artery, the blood vessel in the brain that controls 
motor function, Dr.  de la Torre prevented their paralysis 
by dosing them with DMSO.  The DMSO-treated monkeys didn't 
suffer from the severe neurological damage from cerebral 
stroke that would occur if they were left untreated or were 
treated with corticosteroids, the current conventional 
treatment.  Stroke, which causes half a million deaths or 
more each year among Americans, is the second most common 
cause of death from cardiovascular disease.  There are many 
facets to the pathologic process- pressure, lack of oxygen, 
inadequate blood flow, release of enzymes- and DMSO is well 
equipped to arrest them.  The DMSO must be administered 
within four hours to be effective, and within ninety minutes 
is best, reports Dr.  de la Torre.  I provide a full 
discussion of his DMSO research with head and spinal cord 
injuries in Chapter 9.


At the University of Oregon Medical School where Dr.  Jacob 
works, intravenous DMSO was given to patients following 
severe head injury.  For a group of patients receiving 
barbiturates and mannitol, brain pressure remained elevated. 
 When 40 percent DMSO was administered (one gram of DMSO 
per kilogram of body weight) the pressure came Down to 
normal within three to five minutes.  Barbiturates and 
mannitol.  are at present considered the best available 
treatment in traditional medicine for such brain injuries, 
but DMSO proved better, said Dr.  Jacob in an interview.


In separate animal studies with cats, rats, and dogs done at 
three universities, DMSO given intravenously to the spinal 
cords of the animals within an hour of injury brought about 
reversal of the injuries, which ordinarily would have been 
irreversible.


"We have had experience at our medical school in Oregon with 
two Patients in which DMSO was given as early as an hour 
after what was considered an irreversible injury-an 
immediate, complete quadraplegia- and in both people there 
was total recovery with them walking out of the hospital,” 
said Dr.  Jacobs.  For optimal therapeutic effect it is 
considered critical to give DMSO intravenously within ninety 
minutes of a head injury.


“Since the grey matter of the brain seems to deteriorate 
after an injury, at least in experimental subjects, DMSO has 
to be given very quickly.  Every emergency room and every 
ambulance should carry it.  For paralysis, the drug should 
be administered in the dosage of one gram per kilogram of 
body weight.  Forty percent concentration for paralysis is 
recommended even though it extends the bleeding time, Dr. 
Jacobs said.  “We have had three patients come into our 
medical center paralyzed after injury: one five hours, a 
second six hours, and the last nine hours.  Historically, we 
thought their chances of recovery were just about zero.  Two 
of those three are now walking as a result of our 
administering IV DMSO despite the time being beyond an 
hour-and-a-half of the injury.” The
Douglass Center recommended, and Dr. de la Torre concurred, 
that 2 grams per kilogram patient body weight should be 
given for the first dose in these trauma cases.


HEMORRHAGIC STROKE AND HEAD WOUNDS

Even though 40 percent DMSO does cause a prolongation of 
bleeding time, it is still indicated for use in treating 
embolic or hemorrhagic stroke.  Hemorrhagic stroke is the 
rupture of a weakened blood vessel in the brain often 
causing headache, nausea, and ringing in the ears just 
before the onset of this type of cerebral vascular accident. 
 Embolic stroke is the plugging of a vessel by a clot.


DMSO is superior to any other treatment for high velocity 
missile wounds of the brain where a great deal of hemorrhage 
is present.  The key to success with DMSO for hemorrhagic 
stroke or any other problem, as has been shown, is to use it 
as soon as possible after the stroke or head wound occurs. 
The healing qualities of DMSO work to bring the injured 
tissues back to normal.  See Chapter 9 and Appendix I for 
more extensive information on DMSO's use in embolic and 
hemorrhagic stroke.


BRAIN-DAMAGED CHILDREN

DMSO has been useful in cases of mental retardation and 
Down's Syndrome.  As a penetrant it carries dr

CS>silver socks

[Shirley Reed]

 I forget where I read of this procedure, but it sounds good.  The socks
should be wet down with cs, allowed to dry, then wet down again, let dry,
wet down again, let dry, and so on for several times.  Air dry, not gas or
elec. dryer.   Bandages for wounds can be done this way too and seem to be
very good.  Can't recall the url or anything.  Sorry.  Sounds pretty good,
imho.  pj  I think cotton was recommended for the socks.  Don't know
why.

CS>brain injury

[Shirley Reed]

 So very sorry to hear of your son's accident.  Can you check out the
www.emofree.com site for the tapping points and words to use?  This stuff is
marvelous and almost frightening in its efficacy.  You can tap on points
other than those on the head.  No kidding--it is almost miraculous, but is
really just accupressure.  I truly hope your son does well.  best wishes,
pj

Re: CS>Brain Injuries

[bbanever]

Frankie,

  I am so sorry to hear of your son's fate.  Hopefully his brain hasn't 
suffered an excessive amount of  permanent damage but there isn't any way to 
assess that at the moment.   I will say that acupuncture is an excellent 
stimulus to the brain and central/peripheral nervous system.  Perhaps, if 
your son lives, you might wish to pursue this as a therapy for him.  Good 
luck to you.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Brain Injuries




Does anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries?  My 21 year old 
son
was involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of Saturday 
morning
and has had two operations and is in a coma, on life support.  I don't 
know
whether to pray for his death or his life because I don't know the 
quality

of life expected - nobody knows.  If anyone has any information, please
share it.  Thank you.
Frankie


 Omigod Frankie -- I'm so, so sorry.  I don't know of any treatment 
for brain injuries, but I'll pray for your son -- and I'll pray for his 
life and his health.

Mary Ann


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Re: CS>Milliamps

[Dan Nave]

1 milliamp is one thousandth of an amp
so 1 amp equals 1000 milliamps.

Dan

Clayton Family wrote:

1000

On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Keithmj wrote:

Just a quick question. Taking advice from others I have been doing my 
homework on Ohm's law. I have found several Ohms Law Calculators on 
the internet that help. My question is this. Is 1 amp equal to 1000 
milliamps? or does it take 1,000,000 milliamps to make 1 amp? I'd say 
1000 but wanted to make sure.. 
http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/calcohms.htm and 
http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslaw.asp is two good 
sites..Cheers..Keithmj

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Re: CS>Copper cure...-silver in nose

[Day Sutton]

When I was a kid.  Born 1935.  Everything was cured with Turpentine.  That
is the last ingredient

On 7/10/07, ch...@tx.rr.com  wrote:


 Hi,  Brickey,

Perhaps you could play with some of the ingredients in Vicks Vapo Rub and
make your own formula to help with the fungus problem.

Take care,

Cindy

Do you have a fungus?  My wife just rid herself of a 20 year toenail
fungus on  both big toes by applying Vicks vapor rub every night .  The
new nails took about 70 days to grow out .  They look good!!!
TJ
**
*Active Ingredients (Purpose)*
Camphor 4.8% (Cough suppressant and topical analgesic)
Eucalyptus oil 1.2% (Cough suppressant)
Menthol 2.6% (Cough suppressant and topical analgesic)

*Inactive Ingredients*
Cedarleaf oil, nutmeg oil, special petrolatum, thymol, turpentine oil

*For external use only; avoid contact with eyes.*

*Do not use:*

   - By mouth
   - With tight bandages
   - In nostrils
   - On wounds or damaged skin













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Re: CS>thick toenails

[sol]

Marshall Dudley wrote:

sol wrote:
Hmm, I wonder if the same effect could be gotten by dipping socks in 
straight CS after laundering, and letting them air dry?
Has anyone ever tried that? I've heard of people spraying the inside 
of tennis shoes with CS.
I am not sure it would be as effective.  As it drys the particles 
aggregate and many quite possibly react with trace gases containing 
sulfur producing silver sulfide. The socks contain silver and another 
metal, such as aluminum, such that when they become moist, create a 
current that makes ionic silver and colloidal silver on the spot.


Thanks! I believe Ode wrote about the aluminum in the silver bandaids, 
but I didn't really "get" what it does. I can see where that would be 
good. But if I ever get toenail fungus, I still won't have the 
wherewithall to pay $25 a pair for socks, so I guess I'd be paining the 
nails and around and under with CS/DMSO.

sol


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RE: CS>Brain Injuries - sit by his side and talk to him in a soft voice

[Faith Saint Francis]

Hello Frankie!
.
Our sentiments are with you, and our prayers as well.
 
Whether your boy is conscious or not:
Just sit by him, in ear-shot, and talk to him - in a very low voice, but 
audible.
Tell him that you love him, that you care, and that everything will be all 
right. If possible hold his hand, loosely!
Do so repeatedly, and ask his mother and brothers and sisters to do the same. 
 
Say relevant things to him, rational things, spontaneously.
 
Do for alimited space of time, but do repeatedly.
 
Hope to serve you some,
FaithStFrancis> From: whatserna...@hotmail.com> To: silver-list@eskimo.com> 
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:45:23 +> Subject: CS>Brain Injuries> > Does 
anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries? My 21 year old son > was 
involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of Saturday morning > and 
has had two operations and is in a coma, on life support. I don't know > 
whether to pray for his death or his life because I don't know the quality > of 
life expected - nobody knows. If anyone has any information, please > share it. 
Thank you.> Frankie> > 
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Re: CS>Brain Injuries

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, I , also, will pray for your son, both that he recovers and that he does 
not have significant problems from his injuries.



From Ruth Strackbein




From: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>Brain Injuries
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:18:44 -0500


> Does anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries?  My 21 year old 
son
> was involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of Saturday 
morning
> and has had two operations and is in a coma, on life support.  I don't 
know
> whether to pray for his death or his life because I don't know the 
quality

> of life expected - nobody knows.  If anyone has any information, please
> share it.  Thank you.
> Frankie

 Omigod Frankie -- I'm so, so sorry.  I don't know of any treatment for 
brain injuries, but I'll pray for your son -- and I'll pray for his life 
and his health.

Mary Ann


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Re: CS>Brain Injuries

[marmar845]

> Does anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries?  My 21 year old son 
> was involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of Saturday morning 
> and has had two operations and is in a coma, on life support.  I don't know 
> whether to pray for his death or his life because I don't know the quality 
> of life expected - nobody knows.  If anyone has any information, please 
> share it.  Thank you.
> Frankie

 Omigod Frankie -- I'm so, so sorry.  I don't know of any treatment for 
brain injuries, but I'll pray for your son -- and I'll pray for his life and 
his health.
Mary Ann


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Re: CS>Copper cure...-silver in nose

[chaha]

Hi,  Brickey,

Perhaps you could play with some of the ingredients in Vicks Vapo Rub and make 
your own formula to help with the fungus problem.  

Take care,

Cindy  

Do you have a fungus?  My wife just rid herself of a 20 year toenail
fungus on  both big toes by applying Vicks vapor rub every night .  The
new nails took about 70 days to grow out .  They look good!!!
TJ

Active Ingredients (Purpose)
Camphor 4.8% (Cough suppressant and topical analgesic)
Eucalyptus oil 1.2% (Cough suppressant)
Menthol 2.6% (Cough suppressant and topical analgesic)
Inactive Ingredients
Cedarleaf oil, nutmeg oil, special petrolatum, thymol, turpentine oil

For external use only; avoid contact with eyes.

Do not use: 

  a.. By mouth
  b.. With tight bandages
  c.. In nostrils 
  d.. On wounds or damaged skin 

CS>Brain Injuries

[joe bloggs]

Does anyone here know of a treatment for brain injuries?  My 21 year old son 
was involved in a terrible accident in the early hours of Saturday morning 
and has had two operations and is in a coma, on life support.  I don't know 
whether to pray for his death or his life because I don't know the quality 
of life expected - nobody knows.  If anyone has any information, please 
share it.  Thank you.

Frankie

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CS>Re: Iodine Lugols etc - Is mine Lugol's?

[chaha]

Hi, Rowena,

I don't understand taking Lugol's with raw ACV, wouldn't the iodine kill 
everything in the ACV?  I can see taking the ACV and honey afterwards, but not 
with it.  Both Dr. Jarvis & altcancer.com mention using Lugol's with ACV but 
when I re-read their instructions it also says "apple or grape juice" as shown 
below in the middle of the last paragraph.   

Take care,

Cindy

altcancer.com/lugols.htm 



Dosage: One drop if body weight is 150 lbs. (68 kg.) or less; two drops for 
body weight of more than 150 lbs.


Directions: Take the suggested "Dosage" above two times per week - temporally 
equidistant (i.e. such as Wednesday and Saturday). In times of bacterial or 
viral infection, take Dosage three times per week (i.e Monday, Wednesday, 
Friday). Take Lugol's on an empty stomach about 20 minutes before eating in an 
8 oz. (236 ml.) glass of distilled or purified water with one teaspoonful of 
apple cider vinegar added for slight acidification. Also see: 
www.herbhealers.com/lugols.htm The contents are stirred with a spoon and sipped 
through the course of the meal, as one would drink a cup of coffee or tea.

 

SHAKE WELL BEFORE USING. 
Supplement Facts: Serving size: one (1) drop. Servings per container: 3,120. 
Ingredients: Distilled water, potassium iodine, iodine crystal. 
Warning: All iodine products can be toxic, or even deadly, if taken in 
excessive amounts. Follow the directions precisely and keep out of reach of 
children.

 

Precautions: Lugol's, like bio-oxidative preparations, is oxidative. You should 
avoid taking anti-oxidant supplements (Vitamin A, C, E, selenium, glutithione, 
etc.) for the duration of your "higher-than-normal" usage of Lugol's. You 
should also follow high usage of iodine products with Microflora Restoration - 
or similar products to replenish vital intestinal flora.

 

Dr. Jarvis was particularly keen on the power of Lugol's iodine, for treating 
various illnesses, including colds and flu, and for countering the effects of 
stress: "Supposing you do follow the suggestions outlined above (note:  not 
what I have above) and find that some weeks the pressures of your private and 
your business life are causing you to lose the ability to bounce back. Then you 
should add a drop of Lugol's solution of iodine to your glass of apple or grape 
juice at breakfast, or you may take it in the mixture of apple cider vinegar 
and water. The point is that the potassium in the solution (Lugol's is 5% 
potassium iodine) blocks off the body mechanism that organizes for aggressive 
action, releasing its hold on the body when opportunity for rest and relaxation 
arises. The iodine swings into action the body and the building up and storing 
of body reserves. When working under pressure, include the Lugol's solution 
dose each day until the period of pressure passes. If it should happen that 
your body becomes saturated with iodine, you will find that there is an 
increase of moisture in the nose. If this occurs, omit the iodine until the 
nose is normal." 

Re: CS>CS....real benefits

[Gerard Payne]

I've had good luck with sinus infections using CS and DMSO mixed together. I
use about 1/4 of 70% DMSO and 3/4 CS. Mix them together in a small glass
container and "snort" with a spoon.(or use a neti pot). Will smart for 30
seconds or so. Works pretty good.
Gerard
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Subject: Re: CS>CSreal benefits


> Does he use a Neti pot?  I clear my sinuses up with a CS/saline solution.
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> > Date: 2007/07/09 Mon PM 06:39:36 EST
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> > My son who has recurrent sinus infections and is on antibiotics
repeatedly, has been told he needs sinus surgery because the sinuses are
blocked and full of gunk.  Also he has a very deviated septum.  Is there any
hope that CS could cure infection in totally closed off sinuses?  Another
problemhe is convinced that the benefits of CS are due to placebo
effect.  I've told him of preventing or curing colds, but he said the mind
could do that if you believe.  He has used it before, guess no dramatic
improvements, and his wife still keeps a bottle in her desk at work and
won't be without it.  How can I convince him that CS really does kill germs,
bacteria, and fungus?
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CS>thick toenails, Sock Process

[CWFugitt]

Evening Marshal,

The socks contain silver and another metal, such as aluminum, such that 
when they become moist, create a current that makes ionic silver and 
colloidal silver on the spot.


  That sounds high tech and efficient.

Can't you figure out the process so we could all do it?

Or, would that be patent infringement?

No doubt you have read the words,
"Forbids all others from making, selling, or using".

Many people think they can make something for their own use and are not 
infringing on a patent.  That is not the way I understand it.


Once I knew a person that had a patent on a fancy machine.
There was only ONE, and that was all he wanted to exist in the world.

He had a problem with it.  I said, "I can fix it" but he would not even let 
me look at it.


I have friends that get patents and barely know how the machine works, and 
cannot describe the problem they have.


Wayne


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Re: CS>Voltage. CS Quality, Technical Stuff

[Kirsteen Wright]

On 7/10/07, CWFugitt  wrote:


I see many beginners get carried away and worry themselves to death.   Not
necessary.  If they want to devote 1000's of hours studying all this,
fine.  That is their choice.

Otherwise they should know their ability and limitations.
Be happy, make CS, use it, and be glad they can do it.


I so agree. Most of the technical stuff on this list goes whoosh right
over my head. When I first started using CS I bought it online. Then,
despite being technologically challenged, thanks to some great and
easy instructions that I was sent, I managed to conect 3 9volt
batteries, attach the wires to 2 silver rods and make my own CS. Is it
the best I could get - I highly doubt it  but it works and it's
always available and yes I'm very glad it's there.

Kirsteen
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I do note with interest that old women in my books become young women
on the covers... this is discrimination against the chronologically
gifted.
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Re: CS>thick toenails

[Donna Gros]

I just wanted to let others know also that my mother now 83 has had the same 
problem and after using Vicks and applying to her toes for a month or so has 
also solved her problem.  I also had tried this in the past for a month or 
so and it does wonders for the toenails. This was advised by her foot Dr. 
and nice to know that there are Dr. around that try to treat things 
naturally.  Donna, Pa.




My wife just rid herself of a 20 year toenail fungus on  both big toes by 
applying Vicks  vapor rub every night .  The new nails took about 70 days 
to grow out .  They look good!!!


*** When you say *applying Vicks vapor rub* -- applying how?  Rubbing onto 
the surface of the toenail?  Or the nail and cuticle?  Or over, under and 
around?  Please be a little more specific.  Thanks.  MA



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RE: CS>transit time

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, Sol, Thanks for sending this, the message I am in process of sending you 
, I would have sent to the whole list, too, fortunately, I was in process of 
going back to check what you said in your first post and found the second 
post.  I did remember that I can copy what I have written to the Save Draft 
spot and come back to it.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: sol 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>transit time
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:59:30 -0600

How embarrassing to have sent that to the whole group.
sorry all,
sol


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CS>transit time

[sol]

How embarrassing to have sent that to the whole group.
sorry all,
sol


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CS>transit time

[sol]

Hi Ruth,
 I've been having a LOT more diarrhea than usual lately (been eating 
carbs again). And it got me to thinking--if we averaged your several 
days transit time with my maximum of about 2-3 hours, we might average 
out to be about normal.
LOL, though not really funny, I've had IBS for over 30 years. And when I 
was vegetarian, you don't even want to know how much diarrhea I had, 
trust me. Luckily for me drinking 4 ot 8 ounces of CS stops it quickly, 
but...I've read about that new diet drug Alli or whatever, and 
the "anal leakage" it causes and simply can't believe people would do 
that to themselves deliberately!

sol


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Re: CS>CS....real benefits

[sol]

Oh, gross, but shows that CS does NOT kill multi-celled kritters. When I 
have used CS to retard souring of diary, I have noticed that the higher 
the fat content the less well the CS works, or stated another way, the 
more CS it takes to retard spoilage even for a lesser time period.

sol

Marshall Dudley wrote:
I tried this a few years ago.  The one without CS went bad in a day or 
so. A month later the other CS still smelled sweet, but seemed to have 
some strange activity in it. I strained it, and found it was full of 
maggots!



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Re: CS>thick toenails

[Marshall Dudley]

sol wrote:
Hmm, I wonder if the same effect could be gotten by dipping socks in 
straight CS after laundering, and letting them air dry?
Has anyone ever tried that? I've heard of people spraying the inside 
of tennis shoes with CS.
I am not sure it would be as effective.  As it drys the particles 
aggregate and many quite possibly react with trace gases containing 
sulfur producing silver sulfide. The socks contain silver and another 
metal, such as aluminum, such that when they become moist, create a 
current that makes ionic silver and colloidal silver on the spot.


Marshall

sol

John McLean wrote:
After taking meds (didn't work), painting on the nails (didn't work) 
I tried another approach and after buying enough silver sox to allow 
me a fresh change each day, I am now totally free of any foot related 
fungus, totally gone!



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CS>thick toenails

[marmar845]

> My wife just rid herself of a 20 year toenail fungus on  both big toes by 
> applying Vicks  vapor rub every night .  The new nails took about 70 days to 
> grow out .  They look good!!!

*** When you say *applying Vicks vapor rub* -- applying how?  Rubbing onto the 
surface of the toenail?  Or the nail and cuticle?  Or over, under and around?  
Please be a little more specific.  Thanks.  MA


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Re: CS>thick toenails

[sol]

Hmm, I wonder if the same effect could be gotten by dipping socks in 
straight CS after laundering, and letting them air dry?
Has anyone ever tried that? I've heard of people spraying the inside of 
tennis shoes with CS.

sol

John McLean wrote:
After taking meds (didn't work), painting on the nails (didn't work) I 
tried another approach and after buying enough silver sox to allow me 
a fresh change each day, I am now totally free of any foot related 
fungus, totally gone!



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Re: CS>Re: Re: vinegars

[sol]

I can use pasteurized vinegars of any kind(wine, apple cider, balamic, 
rice  etc) with no problem. White vinegars don't cause me any problem 
either. I've been pickling with it for almost 40 years. It is the live 
bacteria ("mother of vinegar") that gives me the problem. Kefir did the 
same thing to me, and after two years of struggling to get used to it, I 
gave up on it just like I gave up on the live vinegars.

sol

Clayton Family wrote:

Many of us with mold issues can't use vinegar- too close to a mold.




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Re: CS>Copper cure...-silver in nose--thank you, sol

[sol]

If the headaches are due to infection, and he can get enough CS to the 
source of the infection then it would help.
Otherwise, probably it won't help. It is worth noting though that there 
is nothing we can have which can't be made worse by an underlying 
low-level infection, most of which probably go undetected and unrecognized.


I understand your frustration re your husband, I have the same problem 
with mine. I have quit trying to get him to use CS, if he won't  he 
won't. I have other things to do than bug him about it. He is an adult 
and must make his own decisions. If he ever changes his mind, I have 
plenty of CS to spare, LOL. My own benefit from CS has been enormous, 
and I have to be content with that.

sol

Theresa Widmer wrote:
Thanks for your imput on this.  I have been encouraging my husband to 
ingest CS the entire course of our 5 yr. marriage, but he is still 
concerned about the possible toxicity to the nervous system, the 
chances of doing damage if it crosses the blood-brain barrier--as has 
been much discussed in other threads.  I think I may be wearing him 
down, though.  He uses it for other things--nebulizing, disinfecting, 
etc. 
  But what about the climate factor in these sinus headaches?  If he 
was well saturated with CS and took the preventive measures you 
advice--ones which I do myself-i.e. the spray bottles--would this 
reduce these headaches as well?
 



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Re: CS>Copper cure...-silver in nose

[Clayton Family]

I am curious about what kind of fungus you are referring to, with the 
desert.  I am thinking you must be referring to the one that causes 
Valley Fever, coccidiomycosis? or something like that. That does cause 
people to end up with asthma, etc. The old folks say that it is like 
measles, once you get it once, you don't catch it again. Where I come 
from, everybody gets it, so they used to say. You can end up with long 
term residual problems from it, but may not actually get a second 
infection from it.


If all that is true, then the wood fungus may be more of a problem for 
you. I know that the aspergillus was growing on some wood on my 
property, and since I couldn't seem to talk anyone into moving it for 
me, I went out and poured white vinegar all over the pile. It killed it 
enough for it to be removed.


The one that flattens me outright is stachybotris, the indoor mold that 
loves to grow on drywall. That will kill my immune system and send it 
into overtime in seconds flat.


I could not use the spple cider vinegar either, and now use lemon 
juice. It did help a bit, as long as I avoid the other fermented stuff, 
and not eat too much white food (starchy)- still working on the diet 
thing.


maybe the copper can do it for you.

Have you tried prescription antifungals?

kathryn
On Jul 10, 2007, at 1:42 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 7/9/2007 6:04:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:

Are you also using CS orally?
I used enough black CS to get blue moons on my fingernails. My sinus 
flushes with CS was using my well water to make the black CS, not DW. 
I presently am doing 3 sinus flushes per day using salted water. If I 
forget my nose will be plugged. I just read that even rife treatments 
for fungus take 90 days of treatment. I have not used my GB-4000 to 
treat fungus for 90 days, just several treatments pert month.

  
Are you getting reinfected
 I am sure that I am getting reinfected. My trees are loaded with 
fungus and mold, when I go to Yuma, it is known to be 10 times worse 
for fungus than here and it really gets to me. They say the fungus is 
in the desert grounds and new construction releases it for the wind to 
spread it.

 The salt rinse controls it but needs to be done several times per day
Many of us with mold issues can't use vinegar- too close to a mold.
I  have also been using ACV un-pasturized. Could be a problem. May 
need to switch to lemon juice.

 
Brickey
 
 



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Re: CS>Milliamps

[Clayton Family]

1000

On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Keithmj wrote:

Just a quick question. Taking advice from others I have been doing my 
homework on Ohm's law. I have found several Ohms Law Calculators on 
the internet that help. My question is this. Is 1 amp equal to 1000 
milliamps? or does it take 1,000,000 milliamps to make 1 amp? I'd say 
1000 but wanted to make sure.. 
http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/calcohms.htm and 
http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslaw.asp is two good 
sites..Cheers..Keithmj

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Re: CS>CS....real benefits

[CWFugitt]

O,
A fresh meat ranch too!
Cool!


  I think those sterile maggots bring a good price.

I  located a source when I had the spider bite, in case I needed them.

I prepared for the worse, but it did not happen.

Wayne



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Re: CS>CS....real benefits

[cking001]

On 7/10/2007 2:37:19 PM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com)
wrote:

> I tried this a few years ago.  The one without CS went bad in a day or
> so. A month later the other CS still smelled sweet, but seemed to have
> some strange activity in it. I strained it, and found it was full of
> maggots!
> 
> Marshall


O,
A fresh meat ranch too!
Cool!

Chuck
Have no fear Underdog is here!
 and here!
and here.
   and here too!
  For the love of God man - shut off the power mower!


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RE: CS>Re: Parasites

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, Charles, I have tried both bile salts and meds containing hydrochloric 
acid . They didn't help. Have tried them both relatively recently and longer 
ago. They did not help.  The doctors don't claim to "know" what is causing 
my problems. They mention various possibilities.  You don't "know" what is 
the matter with me either.  I have read the messages of a number of people 
who have many different of what my trouble may be, and all the input is 
valuable, but no single person's idea of how to go about dealing with it is 
necessarily the right one. I know you want very badly to help me and I want 
very badly to be helped.  But I simply cannot continue to fill up my 
medicine closet with medicines that it turns out I cannot use.  I don't want 
to discourage you from sending any information that you think might be 
helpful, Charles and others. Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Charles Marcus 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Parasites
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:58:26 -0400

Hi, Pat, Sounds like my upper ribcage pain.I don't have any success, 
either with getting  my regular doctor and a gastroenterologist interested 
in finding out exactly what is causing this pain.


More than likely the reason you don't have any success is they *know* what 
is causing it - your missing gallbladder - but will not tell you this for 
different reasons - it makes them *responsible* for the problem, and 
telling what to do to *fix* it (like taking bile salts and HCL supplements) 
would not make them any money.


It really is that simple Ruth. Until you stop following them blindly down 
the primrose path, you will continue to experience precisely this.



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RE: CS>Voltage

[CWFugitt]

Evening Chuck and Dan,

>> At 01:07 PM 7/10/2007, you wrote:

 I don't disagree with anything either of you are saying,

However my two bit system don't limit current.

So, my question relates to that.  The current can increase slightly up to a 
point, without any problem,  can it not?  Seems I have in mind 2 ma or 
slightly less.


Plus, I use a starter solution of previous made CS much like Terry C. 
does.  This gets the show on the road much quicker.


I knew nothing when I started, but I did savvy Ohms Law and other things a bit.

I kept my log file relative to time and current basically because I was 
interesting, had the meters, and felt I needed to learn something.


From the very beginning, my CS worked miracles for many people so I never 
felt I needed to change anything.


Of course,  wise people change their mind and fools never do.

So, it has been several years, might be time for a change.

I guess I could do without my LED I have trusted so long.

Still, I work with so many bogus things, including computers,
I don't trust any machine or gadget unless I see some visual indication or 
meter indication that it is working right.


If my gadget fails or does anything wrong, I want to be the first to know, 
quickly.


I guess I should consider what generator I need to build to advance to a 
higher level.  I have event counters, ( very fancy ones ) both analog and 
digital input devices, and can write code to do anything I can dream up.


It sounds like a hill to climb, but tons of fun. I have 150 cantaloupes 
that need harvesting, if it will stop raining.  Will soon have 100 
watermelons or more.


I somewhat belive, leave well enough along, and if it is not broke, don't 
fix it.


I do watch my CS batches closely, and the timer as well.
typically, I am working with historical methods.

Plus, I like no power supply, no battery, and no transformer.

Any suggestions are welcome of course.  Tell me what you think.
I take criticism very well and I don't feel insulted if you disagree and 
tell me what you think.  I welcome new ideas of course.


Wayne


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Re: CS>Copper cure...-silver in nose

[Brickeyk]

 
In a message dated 7/9/2007 6:04:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:

Are you also using CS orally?

I used enough black CS to get blue moons on my fingernails. My sinus flushes 
with CS was using my well water to make the black CS, not DW. I presently am 
doing 3 sinus flushes per day using salted water. If I forget my nose will be 
plugged. I just read that even rife treatments for fungus take 90 days of 
treatment. I have not used my GB-4000 to treat fungus for 90 days, just several 
treatments pert month. 
 
Are you getting reinfected
 I am sure that I am getting reinfected. My trees are loaded with fungus and 
mold, when I go to Yuma, it is known to be 10 times worse for fungus than here 
and it really gets to me. They say the fungus is in the desert grounds and 
new construction releases it for the wind to spread it.
The salt rinse controls it but needs to be done several times per day
Many of us with mold issues can't use vinegar- too close to a mold.
I  have also been using ACV un-pasturized. Could be a problem. May need to 
switch to lemon juice.
 
Brickey
 
 



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Re: CS>CS....real benefits

[Marshall Dudley]

Dan Nave wrote:

Get two glasses, fill with milk.  Add an ounce of CS to one and,
perhaps, an ounce of distilled water to the other.  Stir.  Cover both
with a handkerchief or napkin and leave out at room temperature.  See
which one goes bad first.

Dan

 
  
I tried this a few years ago.  The one without CS went bad in a day or 
so. A month later the other CS still smelled sweet, but seemed to have 
some strange activity in it. I strained it, and found it was full of 
maggots!


Marshall

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From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 6:40 PM

To: silver list
Subject: CS>CSreal benefits

My son who has recurrent sinus infections and is on antibiotics
repeatedly, has been told he needs sinus surgery because the sinuses are
blocked and full of gunk.  Also he has a very deviated septum.  Is there
any hope that CS could cure infection in totally closed off sinuses?
Another problemhe is convinced that the benefits of CS are due to
placebo effect.  I've told him of preventing or curing colds, but he
said the mind could do that if you believe.  He has used it before,
guess no dramatic improvements, and his wife still keeps a bottle in her
desk at work and won't be without it.  How can I convince him that CS
really does kill germs, bacteria, and fungus?

 
Pat





   



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RE: CS>Voltage

[Dan Nave]

Most of you replying are missing the point about starting out with
higher voltage.
 
The resistance of pure water is very high so it takes time to get the
conduction (amount of silver being released into the water) to increase
to the point where the current limit will take over.  Having higher
voltage at the beginning gets you to the current limiting point much
faster.  After the current limit circuit is saturated, it reduces the
voltage across the electrodes.  (It does this by increasing it's
resistance and thereby dropping more voltage across itself and leaving
less voltage to appear across the electrodes.)
 
So starting with a higher voltage will get your CS batch going faster at
the beginning.  Best to have a current limit circuit which is sized for
the silver electrodes you are using so you can maintain a low current
density on the electrodes, as was referred to by Ode.  
 
Without a current limit it may be harder to control the reaction at the
end of the brew.
 
Dan



From: Keithmj [mailto:ke...@keithmj.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:32 PM
To: Silverlist
Subject: CS>Voltage


Hi all..Just a question about the voltage used to make CS. I have made
about 1 gallon of CS at 15ppm. Is 15ppm OK? Half with 2 batteries and
half with 3 batteries and I can tell no difference between the batches.
I finally got my 30 volt transformer that I am also going to be using
but I am going to use diodes to reduce the milliamps down to around 1.5
or .5milliamps. My question is this..If the milliamps are so low then
why do they recommend 27 to 31vdc? I can get the same milliamps using a
6volt 300milliamp transformer as I can with the 30volt 1000milliamp
transformer. What am I missing with the voltage issue? Everyone has
different voltages they like. 
Also using two batteries I still have to stir the CS to keep it clear
which is not a problem and I also found that if I heat the water to 42
degrees Celsius it doesn't take as long to get 15ppm, so does anyone
else heat the water?  
 
Also will CS help a person with irritable bowel problems? 
 
Now that I switched from Incredimail to Outlook Express my posts might
go thru and I thank everyone for their help that they have given
me...Cheers..Keithmj
   NUDE is
not LEWD..Play Naked!! 

Re: CS>Voltage

[cking001]

Think of it this way, Wayne.
The simplest cs process has been refined over the years to occur when
the current is limited to 1 ma or so, in distilled water, for however
long you want depending on strength desired.
~10 ppm has become a benchmark, so we'll talk about that.

One of the easiest ways to limit current is the current limiting
diode, so one of those rated at or near 1ma is ideal.

Voltage becomes pretty near irrelevant as long as you have enough to
raise the circuit current eventually to 1 ma.
The excess is dropped across the diode.

The beauty of the diode is that the end time can be prolonged for a
stronger brew. You don't run into the runaway current rise as the
solution conductivity increases. (real world must have a limit)

Ohms law and maxwells equations still apply, but it doesn't hurt the
head as much.
And it beats watching a meter and adjusting a pot for an hour or so.

Chuck
You've got to know the rules before you break them--otherwise it's no
fun

On 7/10/2007 12:22:19 PM, CWFugitt (c_wa...@earthlink.net) wrote:
> Morning Chuck,
> 
> >> At 11:09 AM 7/10/2007, you wrote:
> 
> Your message sounds real good and factual.
> 
> I read it a few times and it made me think  
> 
> >>Once you're at the 1 ma, the time to end of process will
> >> be the same.
> 
> Sound like you are saying that 1 ma at 6 volt does the same work as 1 ma
> at 30 volts.   Interesting.
> Or, 1 ma at 52 volts. or even 1 ma at 110 VDC.
> 
> On any non regulated power supply things happen we never discuss.
> There is a quality of power supplies called  "Regulation Percentage".
> Of course at this low current, it likely does not enter into the picture.
> 
> Oh well... nothing is as it seems sometimes.
> 
> Wayne


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RE: CS>List Question

[Dan Nave]

I would first subscribe under the new address, *then* after I start
getting emails, unsubscribe the original address.
That way you won't miss any posts.
 
Dan



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Subject: CS>List Question


I went to the Silver List site to switch to my new e-mail address. Could
not find how to change e-mail address. Is it best to unsubscribe then
resubscribe with the new address ? Thanks, rex

RE: CS>Re: Re: vinegars

[Dan Nave]

I don't agree that your statements are true...

Dan 

-Original Message-
From: Charles Marcus [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 5:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Re: vinegars

>>> Ingredients: Made form select sun-ripened grain, diluted with water 
>>> to a uniform pickling and table strength of 5% (50 grains) acidity.

>> True enough (but many white vinegars *are* petroleum based), but 
>> beside the *main* point...
>>
>> Distilled white vinegar is *very* *toxic* if taken internally.
>>
>> Raw Apple Cider Vinegar provides *numerous* health benefits if taken 
>> internally.

 > I find both those statements hard to swallow.

Ok, had a good laugh - then decided I wasn't sure if you were just
joking, or if you were actually serious...

They are true, nonetheless...


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RE: CS>CS....real benefits

[Dan Nave]

Get two glasses, fill with milk.  Add an ounce of CS to one and,
perhaps, an ounce of distilled water to the other.  Stir.  Cover both
with a handkerchief or napkin and leave out at room temperature.  See
which one goes bad first.

Dan

 

-Original Message-
From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 6:40 PM
To: silver list
Subject: CS>CSreal benefits

My son who has recurrent sinus infections and is on antibiotics
repeatedly, has been told he needs sinus surgery because the sinuses are
blocked and full of gunk.  Also he has a very deviated septum.  Is there
any hope that CS could cure infection in totally closed off sinuses?
Another problemhe is convinced that the benefits of CS are due to
placebo effect.  I've told him of preventing or curing colds, but he
said the mind could do that if you believe.  He has used it before,
guess no dramatic improvements, and his wife still keeps a bottle in her
desk at work and won't be without it.  How can I convince him that CS
really does kill germs, bacteria, and fungus?

 
Pat




   


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Re: CS>CS....real benefits

[noblemetals]

Does he use a Neti pot?  I clear my sinuses up with a CS/saline solution.
> 
> From: Pat 
> Date: 2007/07/09 Mon PM 06:39:36 EST
> To: silver list 
> Subject: CS>CSreal benefits
> 
> My son who has recurrent sinus infections and is on antibiotics repeatedly, 
> has been told he needs sinus surgery because the sinuses are blocked and full 
> of gunk.  Also he has a very deviated septum.  Is there any hope that CS 
> could cure infection in totally closed off sinuses?  Another problemhe is 
> convinced that the benefits of CS are due to placebo effect.  I've told him 
> of preventing or curing colds, but he said the mind could do that if you 
> believe.  He has used it before, guess no dramatic improvements, and his wife 
> still keeps a bottle in her desk at work and won't be without it.  How can I 
> convince him that CS really does kill germs, bacteria, and fungus?
> 
>   
>Pat
> 
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Re: CS>thick toenails

[noblemetals]

Do you have a fungus?  My wife just rid herself of a 20 year toenail fungus on  
both big toes by applying Vicks  vapor rub every night .  The new nails took 
about 70 days to grow out .  They look good!!!
> 
> From: Smitty 
> Date: 2007/07/09 Mon PM 01:35:13 EST
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>thick toenails
> 
> Does anybody in this group have a solution
> for thick toenails ?
> Is there something to either coat the nail with,
> or soak them in some liquid to *thin* the nail?
> 
> thanks,
> Smitty
> 
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RE: CS>thick toenails

[Dan Nave]

Have you tried supplementing with Vitamin D3?

Dan


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D

Vitamin D is a group of fat-soluble prohormones, the two major forms of
which are vitamin D2 (or ergocalciferol) and vitamin D3 (or
cholecalciferol).[1] The term vitamin D also refers to metabolites and
other analogues of these substances. Vitamin D3 is produced in skin
exposed to sunlight, specifically ultraviolet B radiation.

Vitamin D plays an important role in the maintenance of organ
systems.[2]

Vitamin D regulates the calcium and phosphorus levels in the blood by
promoting their absorption from food in the intestines, and by promoting
re-absorption of calcium in the kidneys. 
It promotes bone formation and mineralization and is essential in the
development of an intact and strong skeleton. 
It inhibits parathyroid hormone secretion from the parathyroid gland. 
Vitamin D affects the immune system by promoting immunosuppression,
phagocytosis, and anti-tumor activity. 
Vitamin D deficiency can result from inadequate intake coupled with
inadequate sunlight exposure, disorders that limit its absorption,
conditions that impair conversion of vitamin D into active metabolites,
such as liver or kidney disorders, or, rarely, by a number of hereditary
disorders.[2] Deficiency results in impaired bone mineralization, and
leads to bone softening diseases, rickets in children and osteomalacia
in adults, and possibly contributes to osteoporosis. Vitamin D
deficiency may also be linked to many forms of cancer.


-Original Message-
From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:54 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>thick toenails

Hi, Smitty, Thick toenails may have something to do with calcium balance
.  
My toenails tend to get thick or thin out with regard to calcium
magnesium balance.  I've been getting conflictin information about the
correct 
balance.   I used to think that they should be even up as to amount of
each. 
Right now mine are easy to cut which is nice.  They sometimes get very
thick so that one almost can't clip them.  Ruth

>From Ruth Strackbein


>From: Smitty 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: CS>thick toenails
>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:35:13 -1000
>
>Does anybody in this group have a solution for thick toenails ?
>Is there something to either coat the nail with, or soak them in some 
>liquid to *thin* the nail?
>
>thanks,
>Smitty
>
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CS>Milliamps

[Keithmj]

Just a quick question. Taking advice from others I have been doing my homework 
on Ohm's law. I have found several Ohms Law Calculators on the internet that 
help. My question is this. Is 1 amp equal to 1000 milliamps? or does it take 
1,000,000 milliamps to make 1 amp? I'd say 1000 but wanted to make sure.. 
http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/calcohms.htm and 
http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslaw.asp is two good sites..Cheers..Keithmj

Re: CS>Voltage

[CWFugitt]

Morning Chuck,

>> At 11:09 AM 7/10/2007, you wrote:

 Your message sounds real good and factual.

I read it a few times and it made me think  

>>Once you're at the 1 ma, the time to end of process will
>> be the same.

 Sound like you are saying that 1 ma at 6 volt does the same work as 1 ma 
at 30 volts.   Interesting.

Or, 1 ma at 52 volts. or even 1 ma at 110 VDC.

On any non regulated power supply things happen we never discuss.
There is a quality of power supplies called  "Regulation Percentage".
Of course at this low current, it likely does not enter into the picture.

Oh well... nothing is as it seems sometimes.

Wayne




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CS>Re: Iodine Lugols etc - Is mine Lugol's? Richard?

[Rowena]

http://panaminstitute.com/de-iodine.htm

Interesting article about iodine on this page.  Speaks of the discovery of 
iodine

I bought some iodine at the chemist today.  No big deal, you think.  I'd 
asked on Saturday - assistant couldn't find any.  Asked today - assistant 
could see a bottle listed on the computer, but not find it.  Eventually 
tracked it down in some back room.  (Small isolated town, but even so, I am 
surprised iodine isn't on the shelves or in the supermarket.)

I asked (sure she wouldn't have any or be able to get any) if she could get 
me Lugol's iodine.  The one I got is the only one available, she said, all 
others "discontinued".  Must work too well.

Anyway, the one I got is called Aqueous Iodine Solution APF which I suppose 
means Australian Pharmaceutical something.

 On the above site, it says USP (I guess US Pharma...) tincture of iodine 
contains 2% iodine and 2.4% sodium iodide dissolved in 50% ethyl alcohol
and Lugol's Contains 5% iodine and 10% potassium iodide.

My bottle says: Iodine 5% w/v, Potassium Iodide 10% w/v

Do I have Lugol's solution anyway???
Richard?  Anybody?
And can I safely put a few drops in cider vinegar/honey? to drink?

I slapped it all over one foot to test the absorption.
Also mixed it with my (very strong, too strong to spray in  mouth) throat 
spray which also contains DMSO and dabbed that all over the place - well, 
here and there, anyway.

The annoying thing has been that I know very well that somewhere I have some 
Lugol's that I was given, and seem to have misplaced, and couldn't get any 
in the health food store in the nearest town.  But maybe I've got the right 
stuff now?

Rowena


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CS>Voltage. CS Quality, Technical Stuff

[CWFugitt]

Morning Fred,

>>At 10:39 AM 7/10/2007, you wrote:


The real question to me is this:


>> Are the particles smaller? Is more silver oxide generated using lower 
voltage.


You ask some good  questions.

Other list members can answer that much better than I can.
I am not highly advanced in the technical aspects of CS quality.

Higher voltage must be good and acceptable, else Terry Chamberlain would 
not use it.


All this has been covered in the past.  If we had archives, you could find 
the answers.


I think the point that most of us miss ..

If you are going to try to make the best CS in the world today, you best 
have some very expensive equipment, a laboratory with test equipment, and 
knowledge that far surpasses the knowledge that most of us have.


You could say,  there is lousy CS, average CS, Better and Best.
I can say, that from the first batch, my CS has accomplished everything one 
can expect.


I don't have 1 % of the technical knowledge about CS as many list 
members.  Does it worry me ?  Not in the least.
Colloids is a science within itself.  The only ones that can master it are 
the ones that have worked with it for years.


I see many beginners get carried away and worry themselves to death.   Not 
necessary.  If they want to devote 1000's of hours studying all this, 
fine.  That is their choice.


Otherwise they should know their ability and limitations.
Be happy, make CS, use it, and be glad they can do it.

I am not saying this describes you.  Someone will likely answer your 
questions to your satisfaction.


Wayne







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Re: CS>Voltage

[cking001]

Fred,
It will take you a lot longer w 6v than 30v to reach the same
conductivity.
Distilled water is not a great conductor, so the higher voltage will
overcome it's resistance quicker to get to your 1ma level than the
lower voltage will.
Once you're at the 1 ma, the time to end of process will be the same.

Chuck
You're only young once--after that you need another excuse  


On 7/10/2007 11:39:14 AM, Fred Sprague (f...@pmr-iowa.com) wrote:
>The real question to me is this: If you start with 6v and 1ma CC, do you 
>produce the same quality cs as a system using 30+ volts and the same CC? 
>Assume here we stop at the same conductivity. Are the particles smaller? 
>Is more silver oxide generated using lower voltage. My guess is that the 
>quality is better with the higher voltage. The particles are smaller and 
>less oxides.Has anyone specifically experimented with these ideas?
>
>Fred


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Re: CS>Voltage

[Ode Coyote]

  Voltage is irrelevant.
 Any voltage over 1.2 will do.
 "Current density", the ratio of current drawn through your changing 
conductivity in the water to surface area of the electrode is important to 
keep the Nernst Diffusion layer from over loading.
 Current draw can be controlled by gradually increasing distance between 
electrodes, or by using a constant current circuit that drops the voltage 
as the conductivity goes up.

 It's all about Ohms law.
 A 20K series resistor with a 24 volt power source works ...OK.

ode


At 12:32 AM 7/10/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Hi all..Just a question about the voltage used to make CS. I have made 
about 1 gallon of CS at 15ppm. Is 15ppm OK? Half with 2 batteries and half 
with 3 batteries and I can tell no difference between the batches. I 
finally got my 30 volt transformer that I am also going to be using but I 
am going to use diodes to reduce the milliamps down to around 1.5 or 
.5milliamps. My question is this..If the milliamps are so low then why do 
they recommend 27 to 31vdc? I can get the same milliamps using a 6volt 
300milliamp transformer as I can with the 30volt 1000milliamp transformer. 
What am I missing with the voltage issue? Everyone has different voltages 
they like.
Also using two batteries I still have to stir the CS to keep it clear 
which is not a problem and I also found that if I heat the water to 42 
degrees Celsius it doesn't take as long to get 15ppm, so does anyone else 
heat the water?


Also will CS help a person with irritable bowel problems?

Now that I switched from Incredimail to Outlook Express my posts might go 
thru and I thank everyone for their help that they have given 
me...Cheers..Keithmj

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Re: CS>Voltage

[Fred Sprague]

CWFugitt wrote:

Morning Keith,

>> At 11:32 PM 7/9/2007, you wrote:

You missed a lot of technical messages about all this a few months 
ago.  IF you were using the right mailer or the key MBX format, I 
would send you many thousands of messages on a CD.


>> My question is this..If the milliamps are so low then why do they 
recommend 27 to 31vdc? I can get the same milliamps using a 6volt 
300milliamp transformer as I can with the 30volt 1000milliamp 
transformer. What am I missing with the voltage issue?


 You need to understand that  1 ma at 6 volts is not then same as 1 ma 
at 12 volts, 18 volts, 24 volts  or 52 volts.


This applies not only to CS but to all circuits.  It is a basic fact 
of Ohms Law and understanding power ( or Wattage ).


No power, no watts, no work.  You could think of it as a measurement 
of the work done in any circuit.  In time, I think you will understand 
it better.


I mentioned "Wattage Factor" a few years back, and no one said a 
single word.  Within the last year, one or two of the list experts 
agreed with me.


There is a wattage factor being dissipated in your CS batch.
It varies with both current and voltage. And the conductivity ( or 
resistance )

of the batch.

Apply 100 VDC to 1 ma and see what happens.  The batch will complete 
much faster.  This is not usually the goal, especially for the beginner.


At a later time, when you may make a gallon at a batch, it becomes 
more important.


At 6 volts, 1 ma ( .001 )  is .006 watts
At 52 Volts, 1 ma ( ,001 ) is .052 watts
So, you see the difference.

You might as well go ahead and study Ohms Law a little or you will 
continue to remain confused.  


There are lots of more technical stuff relating to the weight of the 
silver added to the water that you will become interested in later.


You must consider that our lists largest silver maker uses 100 VDC or 
maybe it is 110 VDC.  He does not do this just because he likes round 
numbers.


You will get another answer or two that may explain this better for 
you than I did.


Actually, I think you could use from 1 VDC up to 100, 200, or more.

The key is how you harness this power and not allow it to take control 
of the batch.  Likely the current limiting diodes you use will work 
with a range of voltage.


Of course I do not want a constant current device because the LED will 
not work and tell me the things that it does if the current varies.


The key is limiting the maximum current and not getting a "run away" 
batch.

I don't recall ever doing this and ruining a batch with over current.

Of course a circuit could be made to limit the current high, but not 
during the batch.  It could also serve as an automatic cut off.


Never fear,  mans hands can make anything his mind can dream up.

My goal one day if to build a computer controlled CS system that 
prints a log every minute or even every 30 seconds, and displays the 
progress, and all data on the screen.


Likely it would be no better than I make with a cheap CS generator.

Remember,  Mans mind is a fantastic control system within itself.
Of course it has to be trained and programmed a bit.

Wayne



The real question to me is this: If you start with 6v and 1ma CC, do you 
produce the same quality cs as a system using 30+ volts and the same CC? 
Assume here we stop at the same conductivity. Are the particles smaller? 
Is more silver oxide generated using lower voltage. My guess is that the 
quality is better with the higher voltage. The particles are smaller and 
less oxides.Has anyone specifically experimented with these ideas?


Fred





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CS>Silver sock sources on the Net

[Marshall Dudley]

http://www.nextag.com/silver-sock/search-html?nxtg=3e8e0a240524-92E3BB1EDDE5FA42

Marshall


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Re: CS>Re: Re: vinegars

[Marshall Dudley]

sol wrote:
Seriously joking. I don't believe white vinegar is made from petroleum 
(unless it is imported from China, then I'd believe it)(though I guess 
just about anything *could* be made into vinegar), so far as I'm aware 
it is made from fermented grain, according to a google search the most 
common grain used is probably corn.


White vinegar is made from chemically produced acetic acid. There are a 
number of methods of producing acetic acid, which include both petroleum 
as well as fermented sugar feedstocks.  It appears that most 
manufacturers use a fermented sugar feedstock.  Now if you get apple 
cider vinegar, it will be using the bacteria conversion method of sugar, 
but white distilled could certainly be using petroleum feedstock.


Here are the methods of manufacture from 
http://www.indiainfoline.com/sect/chor/ch05.html


Manufacturing process

Oxidation process (from fermented alcohol)

In this, acetaldehyde derived from fermented alcohol is oxidized to 
produce acetic acid and acetic anhydride in 70:30 ratio. The process can 
be varied so as to produce 100% acetic acid.


Liquid phase oxidation process

There are two ways of producing acetic acid by this process.

First Methodology

In this process the oxidation of acetaldehyde takes place in a reactor. 
The end product contains acetaldehyde and acetic acid.


Pure acetic acid is then recovered whereas unconverted acetaldehyde is 
recycled.


Second Methodology

This process involves simultaneous production of acetic acid and acetic 
anhydride.


On using copper catalysts, water that is produced hydrolyses acetic 
acid. There can be variations regarding the ratio of acetic acid and 
acetic anhydride required to be produced.




Methanol carbon monoxide method (petroleum method)

Carbon monoxide is made to react with methanol. This results in the 
formation of crude acetic acid. This is purified and dehydrated into 
acetic acid.


This process requires heavy capital expenditure and installation of huge 
capacities.


All manufacturers use acetaldehyde as major feedstock with the exception 
of GNFC, which uses methanol.


Marshall




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CS>vinegars

[laquerencia33]

This info is on glacial acetic acid which I've speculated might be the  
source in very diluted form of some white vinegars - not sure though.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacial_acetic_acid

Deborah


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CS>Re: vinegars

[Charles Marcus]

Seriously joking. I don't believe white vinegar is made from 
petroleum (unless it is imported from China, then I'd believe 
it)(though I guess just about anything *could* be made into vinegar), 
so far as I'm aware it is made from fermented grain, according to a 
google search the most common grain used is probably corn.


You didn't google far enough... and no one said 'white distilled vinegar 
*is* made from petroleum - I said it *can* *be* made from petroleum...


Raw Apple Cider Vinegar may indeed provide health benefits, but I 
will never know, it gives me severe diarrhea in even very small 
quantities, and cutting back and trying to work up to even a 
tablespoon doesn't work, my intestines just don't get used to it.


Then you most likely have something else going on, although I guess it 
is possible that this is some kind of allergic reaction...


If you have any actual proof the petroleum/white vinegar thing, I'd 
like to see it. If what you have is claims from one or another 
"health authority" I'm not interested to see those.


Google is your friend:

vinegar+petroleum

yields

http://tinyurl.com/25akun

I certainly do *not* consider the FDA a 'health authority - do you?

But again, no one said *all* of it is...


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CS>Voltage (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE
 


I use a current limiting Diode. It is interesting to connect up a  cheap
voltage meter (harbor freight less than $5 on sale).
You can connect up power source and meter to silver and move silver closer
and further apart.
You will see the voltage change to limit the diode to it's rated setting. 
You can use a lower voltage power source by moving silver closer together,
not sure how low a voltage and still get 1 Mill amp
(rating of current limiting diode I use). I will have to try and see some
time.  You could use lower source still if you seed the batch 
With some CS. I put some distilled water away (in some plastic jugs from
pretzels) I put several ounces of CS in it. 
I checked the water the other day it was still fine after 2 years. This
makes a good Emergency water supply.
I could probably add more CS and extend the water for 2 more years or just
use it to redistill it again and start over.

 Bob
 
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Caveats: NONE

Re: CS>dental chart and link to related sites

[Kirsteen Wright]

On 7/10/07, Hanneke  wrote:

 I just posted a  tooth-organ chart to the off topic list, plus a few
related  links.



I'm not on the off topic list but would love to see this chart. Could
you possibly post it here or send it to me privately.

Many thanks

Kirsteen

kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com

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