Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2021 #379

[Dave Darrin]

After you hit that button you are a member but to get any postings you have
to give a whole bunch of personal information and your credit card number.
NO thank you!

On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 6:57 AM Tony Moody  wrote:

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Re: CS>

[Dave Darrin]

Max
It was only a pandemic to raise fear so people would volanteer for what it
actually was--GENOCIDE

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:11 PM Max  wrote:

> There was a pandemic
>
>
> It was a pandemic of the sick and elderly.  Key data is the excess
> mortality and the clinical experience.   Excess mortality clearly shows a
> pandemic which spread around the world.  Excess mortality is rather small,
> so its not a hugely dangerous pandemic. In several countries there has been
> no excess death.  Much of the death was falsely attributed to covid.
> According to John Ioannidis who did extensive work on this, covid was
> undercounted in some countries like Africa and overcounted in many western
> countries.  There is evidence of mass malpractice, the over dosing of
> certain drugs, miss-use of ventilator protocol and a big problem in the
> handling of covid in care facilities.
>
>
> Its fair to say the virus, whatever name you want to give it, does not
> kill, its not a killer virus.  This view is highly supported by  the paper
> discussing the disease phases, which I discussed previously, and which was
> provided by Cyndiann.   By now, everyone should know that the virus or set
> of circumstances leading to death  is a trigger, like a fuse on a bomb, the
> bomb being hyperinflammation caused by the bodies immune system. But there
> seem to be features of the viral trigger which can lead to this
> dysregulated immune response in an unusually aggressive way.  This may be
> related in part to features of the spike protein, which may cause similar
> problems by the injections.  Blood clotting, immune suppression,
> autoimmunity and  more.  Covid is in fact quite dangerous for the elderly
> and unwell.  Likewise, the injection is very dangerous, having killed
> approximately 150,000 in the U.S. so far.
>
>
> Clinically doctors around the world reported a unique feature of covid
> which is extreme hypoxia, even among the still ambulatory.  The time
> sequence of covid is unique, with an often precipitous decline after the
> virus has been well defeated.  There is unusual loss of smell, which I
> believe was also a feature of sars cov 1.  There is thrombosis. The disease
> is treatable with Ivermectin and other immune modulators and
> anticoagulants.  If there were no disease, why would it be treatable?  Why
> would there be efficacy of certain protocols?  Why would there be unique
> disease symptoms?   Why would Michael Levitt be able to devote a year and a
> half showing the outbreaks follow a pure mathematical curve, (with no
> evidence of influence by interventions, masks etc) if there are no
> outbreaks?
>
>
> Now there is growing evidence that the later pandemic waves are caused or
> exacerbated by the vaccine. See Joel Smalley.   To deny covid is to deny
> vaccine harm, both stemming from the spike protein.
>
>
> People seem driven by emotion and have shelved discrimination.  Emotional
> bias reigns supreme, suppressing rational thought.  The cognitive
> dissonance must be extraordinary.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/6/2021 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Williams wrote:
>
> agreed, if this was a pandemic there would be dead people laying on the
> streets and they wouldnt be firing medical workers.
> --
> *From:* hanan bissar  
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 6, 2021 11:21 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> 
> *Subject:* Re: CS>
>
> There's no fkn pandemic!
>
>

Re: CS>one.red...@hotmail.com

[Dave Darrin]

If you haven't noticed the vaccine has a genetic changing component added
to it which was also paid for by the afore mentioned individuals.

On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 5:46 PM Da Darrin  wrote:

> I think a flu that only lasts a couple days even with a 103 degrees
> fever for a few hours is mild, Whenever I have had the Flu in the past
> it lasted two weeks or longer.
>
> As far as young people goes I am 85,I don't think that the deaths from
> Covid were from it but from a duplicity of other factors as well as
> reports designed to scare people into taking the shots.
> If you don't think they did a very good (they are still pushing it
> hard) job of it wait a few years and see how many of the people that
> got the shots are still here.
> " If people dropped like flies  the sales of vaccines would come to a
> screeching halt". That's one of the reasons it will take 10 to 15
> years to finish the job.
>
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Re: CS>please ignore this

[Dave Darrin]

It sounds like you are on the right track, however the two address solution
for postings not showing up causes no problem with the silver list.
I've always done it and have been on the list many years.
Dave

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 9:21 AM Tony Moody  wrote:

> Thanks Da,
> I have never had to do what you suggest. I think that may get me in a
> tangle.
>
> I checked the Silverlist Archives and my 3 replies to Re: CS>Hypothesis
> Neville Munn
> have not appeared. Other emails of mine have, obviously, appeared, as in
> this Thread.
>
> Neville suggest the message was too long.. I'll try breaking it into
> parts..
> My message is contentious but not outrageously so (my opinion) :-)
>
> OK,
> Tony
>
>
> On 17 May 2020 at 8:29, Da Darrin wrote about :
> Subject : Re: CS>please ignore this
>
> >
> > Tony:
> > If you have more than one email address subscribe in both of them, then
> > your posting will show up in the other address. My postings never show up
> > in the address that I used to do the posting unless attached to someones
> > reply. Problem solved!
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 6:30 AM Tony Moody  wrote:
> > My sincere apologies for this.
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> > I sent in an email and have not seen it .
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> > OK,
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CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus

[Dave Darrin]

The yellow color just means that there are some particles that are bigger
than an ion.--Not a concern.
Probably 90% are ionic and will do the same as if it was clear.
People worry to much about absolutely nothing and that causes many other
health problems, it's called stress.
Dave

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 7:33 AM Williams  wrote:

> HELP!!   Is there anyone in the New York City area with a Silver Puppy
> that can help me get mine going  Had it two years and have made only
> made two batches both yellow.   Jut can't drink that.  So Ode told me
> how to avoid that.   But still can't seem to do what everyone else does
> with ease -- operate my Puppy.  I'm in the Bronx NY.   Koodyah gimme a
> call?  917 569-5256?   Just need some advice.GladysPS  I'm so good
> at most stuff.  I don't know why I cant seem to get this right.
>
> On February 22, 2020 at 12:26 PM Deborah Gerard 
> wrote:
>
>
> Awesome testimony for your client dying of lung cancer is a horrible way
> to go. I agree about these claims people are making that their product is
> the only way to to.
>
> On Saturday, February 22, 2020, 04:58:16 AM EST, Victor Cozzetto <
> victor.cozze...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I nebulize my own colloidal silver from my Silverpuppy.
> I had a terminal stage 3/4 lung cancer client do the same, after two
> hospitals told her she had 6 to 12 weeks to live.
> She was coughing blood when I met her.
> She was in Hawaii on vacation 4 months later. No coughing.
> I'm not worried about Coronavirus or any other diseases.
> Sad to see other CS people trying to say their stuff is the 'only' one.
> Just a bunch of FUD.
> Victor
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 5:36 PM Neville Munn < one.red...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hmmm, and from a personal perspective, why can't one use a nasal spray
> full of our 'home grown' silver I ask?  Here in Australia, they are talking
> about some propriety concoction administered via nasal spray...Well, what's
> new, I don't see any difference between "their" product and what we make in
> our homes?
>
> N.
>
>
> --
> *From:* Dan Nave 
> *Sent:* Saturday, 22 February 2020 3:02 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus
>
>
> https://thesilveredge.com/chinese-using-silver-fogger-machine-to-beat-coronavirus/
>
>
> Silver Edge article on the Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat
> Coronavirus
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>I've ordered the portable Mini Nebulizer - now a question on heart health

[Dave Darrin]

Reid:

Check out Linus Pauling's protocol. My heart was skipping 2 to 3 beats at a
time and I was getting out of breath with moderate exercise and pulsation
in my vision whenever I got my heart rate up. Took care of it all in less
than a week.
Dave

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 11:57 PM Reid Harvey 
wrote:

> All,
>
> My doctor tells me I need tests of Echocardiogram and carotid dopplers and
> I'm supposing he'll prescribe some over-priced drugs.   Can someone tell me
> what natural, alternative remedies there might be for a healthy heart?
>
> I also want you to know about 3 books of mine being published by Lambert
> Academic Publishing. The overview of these is *Ceramics in Environmental
> Health and Development.*  The other two are training manuals in the forming
> processes of ceramics, intended for developing world, low-income ceramists,
> who will then be in a position to produce ceramic water filters and
> insulating ceramic rocket stoves.
>
> The first book details the urgent need for these environmental health
> interventions.  Having done trainings of these ceramists in Africa and
> Southern Asia my experience is that they tend to be entirely capable and
> highly motivated.
>
> Interestingly, coincident is a question as imperative by the Nobel
> laureate in Economics, Abhijit Banerjee, "Most important is the question,
> what idea is bigger than the notion that even the poorest of the poor have
> enough talent to be self-sufficient?"
>
> Please let me know about natural remedies for heart health. I still have a
> huge amount of work to do.
>
> Reid
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 12:12 AM Victor Cozzetto 
> wrote:
>
>> Just chiming in again here... The device Ode recommended, the MY-250,
>> really puts out a powerful mist. I used one for years, bringing it from NY
>> to Tokyo to Costa Rica, and back again. It is a small hand-held device;
>> however, it stands fine on a table, and I never really held it. The power
>> of the mist makes it easy to use in many ways, and I even used it with
>> pets. I also have a heavy Omron (NE-C28) device, and the mist is a joke
>> compared to the MY-250. It is also much noisier than the MY-250. And only
>> $20 dollars in eBay! Honestly, I cannot understand the reason why any other
>> nebulizer design even exists ;-)
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 4:48 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:
>>
>>> Ode, are you looking at the one with the compressor or the hands-free
>>> version?
>>> Thanks.
>>> PT.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 7, 2020, 12:06:25 PM EST, Ode Coyote <
>>> silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at the photo of the mist stream, the MY-540 puts out a LOT more
>>> mist.
>>> Cheap enough to get 2 [1 for backup]
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 11:52 AM PT Ferrance 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Isn't the one Ode recommended less expensive?
>>> PT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 7, 2020, 11:41:50 AM EST, Reid Harvey <
>>> reidharvey7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Everyone, I suppose I'm a cheapskate but can one of the several
>>> experts here tell me what they think of the nebulizer at this link?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://propelgear.com/products/portable-nebulizer?variant=2784971317=USD=Cj0KCQiAqY3zBRDQARIsAJeCVxPU6Ni0r7WsEiPDVHdpaPhzoEdsD-pNePa_Jw1ECzO99I3wc7P_bxUaAq-AEALw_wcB
>>>
>>>
>>>

CS>

[Dave]

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Dave

Re: CS>Argyria question for Reid

[Dave AuBuchon]

For sure, I know all that. And I will be arguing in my publications that EIS is 
different. Obviously risk or argyria is low. But not zero. It's the very rare 
events that I need to follow up on and characterize. Not the people who have 
had no problems. 
And as Jason has noted, sliver sludge and floaters are trojan horses for 
uncontrolled doses of silver, which - depending on a persons process - could 
conceivably contribute to argyria, even if we are talking about EIS. 
David

CS>Argyria question for Reid

[Dave Idd]

Hi Reid,
I need to do my due diligence as this is actual scientific research I am 
talking about.  It's so rare to find someone with any kind of argyria at all. 
If you have the time, can you please tell me the following:
1. What is the source of the silver you were taking? A generator? A commercial 
product?2. If it was a generator, please tell me something about your setup? 
Were you measuring conductivity? Using distilled water, with no additions like 
salt, etc?3. How much EIS were you taking, and for how long roughly?4. Have you 
ever routinely taken niacin with flush?5. Have you taken other types of silver 
products like silver compounds of silver protein?
Do you have an educated guess about how you likely developed argyria? It must 
have been some kind of silver you were ingesting, right? 
Silver ions are positively charged, btw. 
Thanks,David
p.s. Sorry I couldn't figure out how to reply to the existing thread, so I 
started a new one. 

CS>Argyria question for Reid

[Dave Idd]

Hi Reid,
May I ask how you developed argyria? What kind of silver process you used, how 
much, how long, etc? 

I ask because I am seriously going to be publishing something on EIS in a 
medical journal so I need to follow up on any possible argyria cases from EIS. 
Thanks,David
p.s. Sorry if this message came  through twice. For some reason I don't think 
my first attempt came through (I clicked reply to a digest. Not sure why that 
did not work). 

Re: CS>How to unsub,

[Dave Darrin]

The problem is probably the "sent from my I phone" that is generated by the
phone and is presented in the message pane that's supposed to be blank.
To unsubscribe successfully it will take another device that doesn't mess
up the message pane such as a home computer.
Dave

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Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware

[Dave Darrin]

That's the one
I bought the round skillet and my wife bought two  square ones , they (the
ones my wife bought) are different depths but the same otherwise.
Dave

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Paul Steel <pste...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Think this is the one there talking about
>
> http://www.copperchef.com/
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com>
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:19 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Non Stick Cookware
>
> By the way, what are these "television ads" you speak of?  I think I
> remember something from the days we watched TV off the air, but that's
> been some time.
>
> Oh, wait, I've seen advertisements for things like cigarettes on the
> "Olde Tyme TV" channels.  :)
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Re: CS>Hydrogen Enriched Water (off topic)

[Dave Darrin]

With cars that are computer operated it didn't work because the computer
would detect a lean condition and increase the amount of gasoline, but on
carbureted engines you could get an increase in mileage. The drawback was
the cost and increased maintenance of the water gas unit.  Not worth it.
Dave

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Gmail <ironguard...@gmail.com> wrote:

> BTW, how did that idea work out?
>
> *“Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness.” – *Alejandro
> Jodorowsky
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2016, at 4:29 PM, Jerry Durand <jdur...@interstellar.com>
> wrote:
>
> Opposite direction.  Fuel cell cars take hydrogen and combine it with
> oxygen from the air to make electricity.  That then charges batteries which
> run electric motors.
>
> The cells listed are intended for people who make H-O-H, an explosive mix
> of hydrogen and oxygen that is then fed into the engine with the hope of
> increasing fuel mileage.
>
> On 03/29/2016 01:04 PM, Gmail wrote:
>
> Is this not the device used to power fuel cell cars?
>
>
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>

CSLyme update

[Dave Darrin]

 For Rod and others interested:
I think it is time I gave an update on my Lyme curing adventure.
It's been over a year since I started the Wobenzyme  and CDS treatment and
I haven't had any indication of Lyme remaining .
It's taking a long time to repair the damage that all these years with Lyme
have caused but the difference is like night to day over the past year.
 If you haven't tried it yet I sincerely hope you do.
Dave
 --

*From:* Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, November 04, 2012 1:57 PM
*To:* rsamuels...@cox.net
*Subject:* Re: FW: CSDosage of CS for Lyme



Rod
  The gray refers to skin color. I'm 77 and the hair color has been gray
for so long I can't remember it being otherwise. I have had Lyme since 1957
and I believe I have finally whipped it. This try I used Wobenzyme and CDS
, which is The gas removed from MMS by distilling. CS might work also but I
didn't want to turn grayer than I already am from using it.
The enzyme eats the cyst that the spirochetes hide from your immune system
in and so exposes them to whatever you choose to kill them. Just make sure
you follow through one hour after the enzymes or you just might be
releasing many more bugs into your system. I took eight or ten pills at
least two hours after eating and followed one hour later with CDS.
Dave

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Rod Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net wrote:

the enzyme treatment  I make my own colloidal silver.  What is the special
enzyme?  I have had Lyme for 25 years.  My phone is 860-881-3734  please
call me.  I am already old and gray but if the spirochete were gone I would
feel better

CSSilver Puppy Brewing question

[Dave Neuman]

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CSSilver Puppy Brew Question

[Dave Neuman]

Sorry about the previous incomplete post - accidentally hit the send button...

My question is - I need to make a half gallon of product. One quart for me and 
one quart for my wife. I will be giving her a plug and play batch while my 
batch will be slightly stronger. Is it better to make a half gallon brew or is 
it advantageous to make two separate quarts. Also - there is the question of DC 
vs SWAP. I have the magnetic stirrer but I also consider the time factor along 
with the useage of the electrodes. Anyway, thanks for the input and sorry for 
the incomplete post.

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CSInexpensive lasers at Walmart

[Dave Neuman]

Just to share some information, Walmart sells a very inexpensive laser for 
under $2 (that is what I paid). It is in their pet area. It's called the Laser 
Pet Exerciser. I believe they make them for cats. I purchased 2 of these last 
month - they actually come with an extra set of button batteries (unit takes 3 
of these). Seems to work fine. Has a very sturdy switch and is attached to a 
keychain.

Dave N.

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CSMember with two questions (Dave Neuman)

[Dave Neuman]

Hi - I just have two unrelated questions:

1- Since we clean / prep storage bottles with Hydrogen Peroxide and Distilled 
Water, can we take empty hydrogen peroxide HDPE bottles, thoroughly rinse them 
with DW, and use them for short term storage of our CS? I have a COM-100 tester 
to check the bottles after prepping to see if there are any discrepancies. This 
would solve a problem of mine with giving some away to friends.

2- Has anyone purchased their silver wire from CC Silver and Gold Inc? They 
list 12 ga. . silver at $20 /ft. which seems like a decent price - the 
company is more jewelry based than for CS production. The silver is listed as 
dead soft. Since I am in my learning stage, just wasn't sure.

Thanks so much - Dave Neuman

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CSNew member with question about HM COM-100 meter

[Dave Neuman]

Hi - New member Dave N (hello out there). Just recently began brewing my own CS 
with a Silver Puppy generator. Started using bottled CS (Food for Health 
International's Activz Silver) after researching and pondering for about 2 
years. I have ordered and will be using a nebulizer to control my slight asthma 
condition. Seeing that there are so many uses for CS for the home and personal 
sanitary purposes, I decided to start making my own. I have a question about 
which setting to set the COM-100 meter at. The directions state either the 442 
or the NaCL setting. Since there is no salt either in the distilled water or 
the CS that I am brewing (from my best guesses), I am using the 442 setting 
but I just want to get more info from seasoned users. Thanks for any advice you 
can send my way. Regards, Dave N.

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Re: CSSilver Gen silver

[Dave Darrin]

Jerry it wouldn't matter if it was brown. The ionic has no color and does
the work and the color (if the particles are large enough) will pass on out
in the feces. No harm.
Dave


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST
jsmpren...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 Hi and thanks  to all on this wonderful site.

 I asked awhile ago about cleaning the jars for making silver. I got great
 responses and tried I think all of them. I tried first cleaning up my old
 jars and rods per your instructions. When I made a fresh batch of silver
 it  still had a slight golidish grennish cast--slight but noticeable and
 white particles on the bottom and particles in the air if I looked at it
 soon after it was made. Tried a new water--Walgreens steamed distilled.
 Still the same problems. So I bought new jars and put on a new rod-- still
 the same problems maybe even worse with some black particles on the bottom
 besides the white.

 So I called Silver Gen and a gentleman answered this time and gave me a
 lesson in why this would happen and says that the silver is fine and just
 let the particles settle and go to the bottom and then pour out most of the
 CS into a different jar leaving the particles behind.
 This was quite different than the woman from Silver Gen  had said to me
 several days before. She said it should be  a clear solution.

 So I would appreciate any suggestions any might have. I am hesitant to
 drink it since the made silver is no longer clear.  The solution was clear
 and no noticeable white for several months when I first bought my Silver
 Gen.
 Thanks, Sandy

Re: CSRe: SOTest

[Dave Darrin]

There is something definitely problematic here as I didn't receive any
test emails on list.
Dave

On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Craig Chamberlin 
craig_0...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote:

 **
 Well, with all due respect, I had my email spoofed and had to replace it.
 I made a MISTAKE the first time and then corrected it. So that accounts for
 two tests on the regular list.

 I did the same thing on the off-topic list, which this is and apparently I
 have annoyed you.

 That is exactly why I have sent three maybe four tests.

 Didn't know you were the new list cop, but I'll bear that in mind...in the
 future.

 Regards,

 Craig

 jaxi wrote:

 why exactly are you send so MANY test emails?

  Jaxi


 On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Craig Chamberlin 
 craig_0...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote:

 again



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Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)

[Dave Darrin]

Dee
  Not MMS as such but the gas that MMS generates. When taken in apple juice
it has no taste or smell.
I had a very bad , violent even experience with MMS but no such problem
with CDS. Possibly because I had already cleaned out from the MMS.
Use caution.
Dave

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

  Do you mean MMS?  If so, then there are serious things that can happen
 with this.  dee


 --
 *From: *Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
 *Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Date: *Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:44:51 -0800
 *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject: *Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)
 *Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Resent-Date: *Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:44:52 -0800

 Its chlorine dioxide gas that is distilled and scrubbed into distilled
 water.
 Look on YouTube for Jim Humble and the video of how to make it.
 Dave

 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:

 What is CDS?
 Thanks.
 PT

 --
 *From:* Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, December 13, 2012 3:35:08 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)



 You are  right. It turns you a steely gray, not blue and it does it with
 properly made CS but you have to take it for a very long time,and lots of
 it. I don't think you are doing anyone a favor telling them, it can't
 happen.
   Once it starts to be noticeable you can stop taking it ( CS/EIS) and you
 won't get any worse but it doesn't take much use at all after that to get
 worse.
 At that point you might consider switching to CDS as I did . It does
 mostly anything CS does but doesn't have the side effect.
 15 drops of CDS in apple juice has no smell or taste, but work up slowly
 unless you want to vomit.
 Dave



 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net
 wrote:

 Properly made colloidal silver/CS/EIS (Electrically Isolated Silver)/Ionic
 Silver/all of the above does not turn the skin blue.

 That’s a scare tactic perpetrated by Big Pharma.

 Nenah


 Nenah Sylver, PhD
 author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)
 *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)
 VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification
 www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com ; www.rifehandbook.com 
 http://www.rifehandbook.com

 --


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Gene Wolfe ge...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  I have two granddaughters and one step grandson with chronic mono. We
 have
  recommended CS as a cure for this, but both daughters are afraid of
 turning
  blue.
 
  Can someone give me some recommendations for a way to cure chronic mono,
 and
  ways to reassure them about turning blue?

Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)

[Dave Darrin]

You are  right. It turns you a steely gray, not blue and it does it with
properly made CS but you have to take it for a very long time,and lots of
it. I don't think you are doing anyone a favor telling them, it can't
happen.
  Once it starts to be noticeable you can stop taking it ( CS/EIS) and you
won't get any worse but it doesn't take much use at all after that to get
worse.
At that point you might consider switching to CDS as I did . It does mostly
anything CS does but doesn't have the side effect.
15 drops of CDS in apple juice has no smell or taste, but work up slowly
unless you want to vomit.
Dave



On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote:

  Properly made colloidal silver/CS/EIS (Electrically Isolated
 Silver)/Ionic Silver/all of the above does not turn the skin blue.

 ** **

 That’s a scare tactic perpetrated by Big Pharma.

 ** **

 Nenah

 ** **

 Nenah Sylver, PhD

 author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)

 *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)

 VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

 www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com 
   --


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Gene Wolfe ge...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  I have two granddaughters and one step grandson with chronic mono. We
 have
  recommended CS as a cure for this, but both daughters are afraid of
 turning
  blue.
 
  Can someone give me some recommendations for a way to cure chronic mono,
 and
  ways to reassure them about turning blue?

 

 ** **

Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)

[Dave Darrin]

Its chlorine dioxide gas that is distilled and scrubbed into distilled
water.
Look on YouTube for Jim Humble and the video of how to make it.
Dave

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 What is CDS?
 Thanks.
 PT

 --
 *From:* Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, December 13, 2012 3:35:08 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)



 You are  right. It turns you a steely gray, not blue and it does it with
 properly made CS but you have to take it for a very long time,and lots of
 it. I don't think you are doing anyone a favor telling them, it can't
 happen.
   Once it starts to be noticeable you can stop taking it ( CS/EIS) and you
 won't get any worse but it doesn't take much use at all after that to get
 worse.
 At that point you might consider switching to CDS as I did . It does
 mostly anything CS does but doesn't have the side effect.
 15 drops of CDS in apple juice has no smell or taste, but work up slowly
 unless you want to vomit.
 Dave



 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.netwrote:

  Properly made colloidal silver/CS/EIS (Electrically Isolated
 Silver)/Ionic Silver/all of the above does not turn the skin blue.

 ** **

 That’s a scare tactic perpetrated by Big Pharma.

 ** **

 Nenah

 ** **

 Nenah Sylver, PhD

 author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)

 *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)

 VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

 www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com 
   --


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Gene Wolfe ge...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  I have two granddaughters and one step grandson with chronic mono. We
 have
  recommended CS as a cure for this, but both daughters are afraid of
 turning
  blue.
 
  Can someone give me some recommendations for a way to cure chronic
 mono, and
  ways to reassure them about turning blue?

 

 ** **

Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)

[Dave Darrin]

It's made from MMS
Watch the video on youtube

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Is this different from MMS?
 PT

 --
 *From:* Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, December 13, 2012 3:45:36 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)

 Its chlorine dioxide gas that is distilled and scrubbed into distilled
 water.
 Look on YouTube for Jim Humble and the video of how to make it.
 Dave

 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 What is CDS?
 Thanks.
 PT

 --
 *From:* Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, December 13, 2012 3:35:08 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)



 You are  right. It turns you a steely gray, not blue and it does it with
 properly made CS but you have to take it for a very long time,and lots of
 it. I don't think you are doing anyone a favor telling them, it can't
 happen.
   Once it starts to be noticeable you can stop taking it ( CS/EIS) and
 you won't get any worse but it doesn't take much use at all after that to
 get worse.
 At that point you might consider switching to CDS as I did . It does
 mostly anything CS does but doesn't have the side effect.
 15 drops of CDS in apple juice has no smell or taste, but work up slowly
 unless you want to vomit.
 Dave



 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.netwrote:

  Properly made colloidal silver/CS/EIS (Electrically Isolated
 Silver)/Ionic Silver/all of the above does not turn the skin blue.

 ** **

 That’s a scare tactic perpetrated by Big Pharma.

 ** **

 Nenah

 ** **

 Nenah Sylver, PhD

 author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)

 *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)

 VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

 www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com 
   --


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Gene Wolfe ge...@ix.netcom.com
 wrote:
  I have two granddaughters and one step grandson with chronic mono. We
 have
  recommended CS as a cure for this, but both daughters are afraid of
 turning
  blue.
 
  Can someone give me some recommendations for a way to cure chronic
 mono, and
  ways to reassure them about turning blue?

 

 ** **

Re: CSBlue was Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)

[Dave Darrin]

NEVILLE
  I think you have been on this list long enough to have read my postings
on this very subject.
I have explained my condition and how it happened.
The people I am commenting to have also seen the postings and the
corresponding threads involving others with likewise experiences.
I just hope the good folks will take your rambling, unfounded opinions on
this subject to be the untruth that they are.
I  don't intend to reiterate the whole story with each posting.
Dave

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:

  I'm going to be forced to agree with Nenah here.

 No, it won't turn you steely grey either, and I'll go further and state
 it won't discolour fingernail beds either.  If anyone wishes to take a look
 around on a global basis they would see numerous individuals who have grey
 coloration in their fingernail beds, which is NOT attributable to the
 intake of silver preparations.  People make that assumption simply because
 they cannot completely expel from the mind published articles they have
 read.  Those articles do not go into enough detail either with a fuller
 explanation.  Those articles portray guilt by association and inuendo.

 It would be preferable for you to say something occurred to you
 personally, followed by a detailed explanation of exactly what
 circumstances you *beleive* may have contributed to the outcome you
 experienced, not make a sweeping statement such as 'taking silver will turn
 you grey'.  You could have said...I would advise you don't do this --
 {fill in the blank} -- as I believe this may have contributed to my --
 {fill in the blank} --.

 Sweeping statements such as the one you made only purpetuate the myth that
 'taking silver will turn you grey', that is simply not true without a
 detailed explanation of circumstances attributable to the individual
 whereby people will then not be instantly put on the back foot when they
 hear this stuff mentioned.  Silver preparations such as we speak of here
 *alone* and blue or grey do NOT go together!

 Inform others about your experience by all means, but refer to your own
 experience only.  A blanket statement is just not accurate.

 Not entering into any debate on this, but of the millions, or dare I say
 multimillions, of people imbibing in this stuff around the planet on a
 daily basis, there is not an increasing population or abundance of smurfs
 walking around, that's the simple truth.  You are an isolated case, and
 perhaps one amongst a few, but without a detailed explanation of exactly
 the circumstances by which you experienced any self perceived undesirable
 outcome it remains an isolated case among those few.

 Make a personal observation and suggestion regarding ingestion of a
 certain volume over time frame for possible prevention of what you may have
 experienced by all means, but it remains a personal observation, not a
 generally accepted fact.

 N.

 --
 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:34:39 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)
 From: davedar...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com



 You are  right. It turns you a steely gray, not blue and it does it with
 properly made CS but you have to take it for a very long time,and lots of
 it. I don't think you are doing anyone a favor telling them, it can't
 happen.
   Once it starts to be noticeable you can stop taking it ( CS/EIS) and you
 won't get any worse but it doesn't take much use at all after that to get
 worse.
 At that point you might consider switching to CDS as I did . It does
 mostly anything CS does but doesn't have the side effect.
 15 drops of CDS in apple juice has no smell or taste, but work up slowly
 unless you want to vomit.
 Dave



 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.netwrote:

  Properly made colloidal silver/CS/EIS (Electrically Isolated
 Silver)/Ionic Silver/all of the above does not turn the skin blue.

 ** **

 That’s a scare tactic perpetrated by Big Pharma.

 ** **

 Nenah

Re: CSSilver and the Gut

[Dave Darrin]

Hg
I bought mine on ebay a long time ago.Didn't take note of the sellers
address.
Dave

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:04 PM, harsha godavari h.godav...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Dave:
 can share the seller's (of capsule maker) address?Thanks
 hg

 Dave Darrin wrote:

 Gary
   You could put it in capsules , if you have a capsule maker. Bought mine
 on ebay. didn't cost much
 Dave

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Gary Hilt 
 sobertogod1n...@gmail.commailto:
 sobertogod1ness@gmail.**com sobertogod1n...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yea but i get my msm for like dirt and its cyrstals



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Re: CSPeripheral Neuropathy

[Dave Darrin]

Gary
  The thing that did the most for me after my feet became numb and painful
burning was niacin.
It increases the blood flow and the normal feeling returned.
  Be careful though--start very small and work up. I now take 2 grams a day
but at first 500mg almost did me in. Even 100 might be to big a start.
Dave

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Good Morning all!
 im a Viet Nam Veteran who has peripheral Neuropathy as a related result of
 Agent Orange
 exposure. i have type II diabetes. While i understand the ramifications on
 the disbetes in
 relation to the neuropathy im asking if any of yall have any ideas about
 treating this pain
 an discomfort in my feet.
 So far i have found a wealth of advice in this forum. Thanks

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Re: CSMagnesium delivery

[Dave Darrin]

Gary
  Why don't you make your own Mag oil?
Just go to your health food store and buy some Nigari (It'll probably cost
more to get to the store than the price of it) then mix to saturation point
with distilled water and you have Mag oil, which isn't oil at all but feels
oily.
Dave

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks i looked at the ste and pricing looks good. Right now were only
 taking magnesium chloride.

 On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:35 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 I've been using the mag oil from www.health-and-wisdom.com for some
 years.
 PT

  --
 *From:* Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tue, November 13, 2012 11:31:32 AM
 *Subject:* CSMagnesium delivery

 As always im seeking the wisdom of all the sages on here.
 im reading that the best way to deliver magnesium to the body
 is thru trans dermal delivery. Does anyone know of a good mag. oil?
 i keep seeing Ancient Minerals but they are pricey.

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 Lord Jesus Christ.
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Re: CSSilver and the Gut

[Dave Darrin]

Gary
  Did I see you say you actually intentionally drank crystal light ?
As far as I know crystal light is sweetened with Aspartame which is
probably the worse poison you could imbibe. Check this out with Dr. Mercola.
Dave

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Suzy
 Well i take the CS 2x a day and i take 1/4 tsp of MSM 2x a day with some
 crystal light.
 i did have an initial detox and felt funk for a few days but now much
 better!

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM, suzy starl...@beyondthetrees.comwrote:

  Hi Gary,
 I'm so glad to hear your IB is so much improved! How are you using MSM to
 heal your irritable bowel? Is this in combination with CS?
 thanks kindly,
 Suzy
 On 11/14/2012 8:50 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

 Truly good news Marshall!
 We are currently taking about 2 oz 2 times a day. i have had an irritable
 bowel for years ad now along with MSM its almost 100% better.
 Have you had any experience with using it as an enema?

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

  If properly made, most is absorbed into the blood in the stomach.  If
 any makes it into the colon, it is immobilized and thus pretty well
 ineffective.  That is of course good, since if it were killing your flora
 in the colon, that would be bad.  Only if the contents are liquid does it
 still have significant power in the colon, and in that case you need it.

 Marshall

 On 11/14/2012 11:34 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

 Since i'm new here ill ask an age old question. Does silver get
 destroyed in the gut?
 i use many different delivery methods but the ingestion seems by far the
 best.
 i have plenty but would like not to waste it.
 Any accompanying documentation would be greatly appreciated.
 p.s. remember i'm a newbie :O)

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 Lord Jesus Christ.
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Re: CSMagnesium delivery

[Dave Darrin]

Gary
  Saturation point is the point at which no more will dissolve in a given
amount of water.
Dave

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Dave sounds good but what do you mean by saturation point?
 Do you mean dissolve?


 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gary
   Why don't you make your own Mag oil?
 Just go to your health food store and buy some Nigari (It'll probably
 cost more to get to the store than the price of it) then mix to saturation
 point with distilled water and you have Mag oil, which isn't oil at all but
 feels oily.
 Dave

 On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks i looked at the ste and pricing looks good. Right now were only
 taking magnesium chloride.

 On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:35 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 I've been using the mag oil from www.health-and-wisdom.com for some
 years.
 PT

  --
 *From:* Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tue, November 13, 2012 11:31:32 AM
 *Subject:* CSMagnesium delivery

 As always im seeking the wisdom of all the sages on here.
 im reading that the best way to deliver magnesium to the body
 is thru trans dermal delivery. Does anyone know of a good mag. oil?
 i keep seeing Ancient Minerals but they are pricey.

 --
 Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
 Lord Jesus Christ.
 Gary  Lennie




 --
 Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
 Lord Jesus Christ.
 Gary  Lennie





 --
 Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
 Lord Jesus Christ.
 Gary  Lennie

Re: CSSilver and the Gut

[Dave Darrin]

Gary
 I take my msm in pill form and taste nothing.
Dave

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yea i know bu everything will kill ya lol The msm is nastyyy without it


 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gary
   Did I see you say you actually intentionally drank crystal light ?
 As far as I know crystal light is sweetened with Aspartame which is
 probably the worse poison you could imbibe. Check this out with Dr. Mercola.
 Dave


 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Suzy
 Well i take the CS 2x a day and i take 1/4 tsp of MSM 2x a day with some
 crystal light.
 i did have an initial detox and felt funk for a few days but now much
 better!

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM, suzy starl...@beyondthetrees.comwrote:

  Hi Gary,
 I'm so glad to hear your IB is so much improved! How are you using MSM
 to heal your irritable bowel? Is this in combination with CS?
 thanks kindly,
 Suzy
 On 11/14/2012 8:50 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

 Truly good news Marshall!
 We are currently taking about 2 oz 2 times a day. i have had an
 irritable bowel for years ad now along with MSM its almost 100% better.
 Have you had any experience with using it as an enema?

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

  If properly made, most is absorbed into the blood in the stomach.  If
 any makes it into the colon, it is immobilized and thus pretty well
 ineffective.  That is of course good, since if it were killing your flora
 in the colon, that would be bad.  Only if the contents are liquid does it
 still have significant power in the colon, and in that case you need it.

 Marshall

 On 11/14/2012 11:34 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

 Since i'm new here ill ask an age old question. Does silver get
 destroyed in the gut?
 i use many different delivery methods but the ingestion seems by far
 the best.
 i have plenty but would like not to waste it.
 Any accompanying documentation would be greatly appreciated.
 p.s. remember i'm a newbie :O)

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 Lord Jesus Christ.
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Re: CSMagnesium delivery

[Dave Darrin]

Suzy
It may be less than optimal but think about the second world war and the
contamination from that and then consider people using sea salt that comes
from that same location.
We just don't know what is safe.
Dave

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:34 AM, suzy starl...@beyondthetrees.com wrote:

  Hi Dave,
 I wonder if using nigari is safe to use these days. From what I've read,
 it's made from seawater harvested off the coast of Japan, which is now
 probably fairly radioactive. I bought some magnesium chloride flakes taken
 from the Dead Sea,
 http://www.bulknaturaloils.com/Products/15879-magnesium-chloride.aspx
 and am hoping that this magnesium is free from contaminants. Magnesium
 from the Great Salt lake is apparently dangerously high in mercury these
 days.
 Suzy
 On 11/14/2012 9:48 AM, Dave Darrin wrote:

 Gary
   Why don't you make your own Mag oil?
 Just go to your health food store and buy some Nigari (It'll probably cost
 more to get to the store than the price of it) then mix to saturation point
 with distilled water and you have Mag oil, which isn't oil at all but feels
 oily.
 Dave

 On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks i looked at the ste and pricing looks good. Right now were only
 taking magnesium chloride.

 On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:35 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  I've been using the mag oil from www.health-and-wisdom.com for some
 years.
 PT

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 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tue, November 13, 2012 11:31:32 AM
 *Subject:* CSMagnesium delivery

 As always im seeking the wisdom of all the sages on here.
 im reading that the best way to deliver magnesium to the body
 is thru trans dermal delivery. Does anyone know of a good mag. oil?
 i keep seeing Ancient Minerals but they are pricey.

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Re: CSSilver and the Gut

[Dave Darrin]

Gary
  You could put it in capsules , if you have a capsule maker. Bought mine
on ebay. didn't cost much
Dave

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yea but i get my msm for like dirt and its cyrstals

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gary
  I take my msm in pill form and taste nothing.
 Dave

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yea i know bu everything will kill ya lol The msm is nastyyy without
 it


 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gary
   Did I see you say you actually intentionally drank crystal light ?
 As far as I know crystal light is sweetened with Aspartame which is
 probably the worse poison you could imbibe. Check this out with Dr. 
 Mercola.
 Dave


 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Gary Hilt 
 sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Suzy
 Well i take the CS 2x a day and i take 1/4 tsp of MSM 2x a day with
 some crystal light.
 i did have an initial detox and felt funk for a few days but now much
 better!

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM, suzy starl...@beyondthetrees.comwrote:

  Hi Gary,
 I'm so glad to hear your IB is so much improved! How are you using
 MSM to heal your irritable bowel? Is this in combination with CS?
 thanks kindly,
 Suzy
 On 11/14/2012 8:50 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

 Truly good news Marshall!
 We are currently taking about 2 oz 2 times a day. i have had an
 irritable bowel for years ad now along with MSM its almost 100% better.
 Have you had any experience with using it as an enema?

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

  If properly made, most is absorbed into the blood in the stomach.
 If any makes it into the colon, it is immobilized and thus pretty well
 ineffective.  That is of course good, since if it were killing your 
 flora
 in the colon, that would be bad.  Only if the contents are liquid does 
 it
 still have significant power in the colon, and in that case you need it.

 Marshall

 On 11/14/2012 11:34 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

 Since i'm new here ill ask an age old question. Does silver get
 destroyed in the gut?
 i use many different delivery methods but the ingestion seems by far
 the best.
 i have plenty but would like not to waste it.
 Any accompanying documentation would be greatly appreciated.
 p.s. remember i'm a newbie :O)

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Re: CSSilver and the Gut

[Dave Darrin]

Dee
 Lots of people don't know that aspartame turns into formaldehyde at or
near body temperature.
Dave

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

  You are right Dave – it is formaldehyde which has *no* known safe
 levels!  dee


 --

 Gary
   Did I see you say you actually intentionally drank crystal light ?
 As far as I know crystal light is sweetened with Aspartame which is
 probably the worse poison you could imbibe. Check this out with Dr. Mercola.
 Dave

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey Suzy
 Well i take the CS 2x a day and i take 1/4 tsp of MSM 2x a day with some
 crystal light.
 i did have an initial detox and felt funk for a few days but now much
 better!

Re: CSMuscle spasms

[Dave Darrin]

Gary
  I was never addicted but after I quit drinking I had the same problem,
It takes not less than 500mg of magnesium, morning and again at night to
alleviate.
If I skip just one dose I get cramps.
Dave

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey yall
 i have been experiencing muscle spasms all over for over 7 years since
 recovering from alcohol addiction. The doctors have no clue. its
 not potassium depletion. We eat and drink lots of veggies etc.
 i wondered if any of yall have any ideas???
 Thanks

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 Lord Jesus Christ.
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Re: CSMuscle spasms :more input, FWIW

[Dave Darrin]

Gary
  Is It just under the rib cage? Right side is Liver which could be damaged
from drinking and the left side would be the spleen.  I had both when I was
a truck driver and it was so severe I could hardly shift the gears. That
was before I found out I had Lyme disease, once I stopped the Lyme with CS
the problem very slowly went away.
Dave

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Lena
 sorry your having the discomfort you mentioned. i have been aware of
 trigger point for years but many
 of my cramps are a knotting around my rib cage and the diaphragm are
 so herd to facilitate there.
 Hope that your continued therapy works.

 On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 I'm just getting through shingles, and there's a thing called
 post-herpetic neuralgia which is gnawing muscle spasm that feels like rats
 are eating their way into my back. Nasty stuff.
 Years ago, I read Pain Erasure, (Bonnie Prudden was involved in its
 publication. It posited the issue of trigger points: areas of 'dead',
 damaged muscle, surrounded by other muscles working overtime to compensate.

 I think, no matter what the initial cause for the original muscle
 problem, this could contribute to the other issues later on. They mentioned
 finding the trigger-points (easy: when you hit a knot of excruciating pain,
 that's one!) Then press with an elbow into that knot (awful, simply awful)
 gathering pressure for a few minutes until it's completely unbearable and
 then, just as gradually, easing up on the pressure. This allows blood flow
 to reawaken the 'dead' spot and help it begin to restore itself.

 I tried this this weekend and though it was the last thing I wanted to
 do, I could feel warmth and energy and an nasty itchiness return to what
 had been a nightmarish pain. Now the scale of pain is ramping down, slowly.

 This is not to say that mag. and pot. and whatever else you do isn't VERY
 important, but just to suggest that a mechanical help might be in order too.

 I wish anyone with this sort of pain the very best of recovery as it's
 truly wretched and makes life very difficult. Just sitting here, writing
 this, is making it all attempt a comeback!

 Be well,
 Léna
 On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

 Hey Dave
 appreciate your help. There seems to be a consensus about the magnesium.


 On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gary
   I was never addicted but after I quit drinking I had the same problem,
 It takes not less than 500mg of magnesium, morning and again at night to
 alleviate.
 If I skip just one dose I get cramps.
 Dave

 On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey yall
 i have been experiencing muscle spasms all over for over 7 years since
 recovering from alcohol addiction. The doctors have no clue. its
 not potassium depletion. We eat and drink lots of veggies etc.
 i wondered if any of yall have any ideas???
 Thanks

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Re: FW: CSDosage of CS for Lyme

[Dave Darrin]

Rod

  CDS is the gas form of MMS.
The advantage of it is the foul chlorine smell and taste is nearly gone.
To learn how to make it find Jim Humble on you tube for video instructions.
Dave

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Rod Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net wrote:

 ** ** **

 What is CDS?  I am making CS right now.

 ** **
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 *From:* Rod Samuelson [mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net]
 *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2012 10:43 PM
 *To:* 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
 *Subject:* RE: CSDosage of CS for Lyme

 ** **

 What is the CDS as I make my own CS 11 to 18 ppm?  Will it take 10 years?*
 ***

 ** **
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 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:24 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme

 ** **

 Jerry
I took 4 oz. every 20 minutes for three days ( excluding nights) and
 knocked out the active Lyme just that quick. Possibly with the enzyme
 treatment you could eradicate the spirochetes ,both active and  dormant
 but it would probably take longer. I don't know if the CS will work as
 well as the CDS, you will have to figure that out for your self. Even if
 you knock it out completely it will take an extended period of time to heal
 from the damage that has been done.
   Don't worry about turning gray, it took me almost 10 years to do so.
 Dave


 

 On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST 
 jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi,,
 Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue
 from CS and suggestions for which CS maker to buy.
 ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym
 M and CS.

 I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for Lyme
 and how to increase dosage.

 Thanks Sandy

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Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme

[Dave Darrin]

Rod
CDS is chlorine dioxide gas made from MMS. Look up Jim Humble, he has video
on Utube as to how to make it.
  The ten years refers to how long it took for me to show a gray skin from
Argeria.
Dave

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Rod Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net wrote:

 ** ** **

 What is the CDS as I make my own CS 11 to 18 ppm?  Will it take 10 years?*
 ***

 ** **
  --

 *From:* Dave Darrin [mailto:**davedar...@gmail.com**]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:24 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme

 ** **

 Jerry
I took 4 oz. every 20 minutes for three days ( excluding nights) and
 knocked out the active Lyme just that quick. Possibly with the enzyme
 treatment you could eradicate the spirochetes ,both active and  dormant
 but it would probably take longer. I don't know if the CS will work as
 well as the CDS, you will have to figure that out for your self. Even if
 you knock it out completely it will take an extended period of time to heal
 from the damage that has been done.
   Don't worry about turning gray, it took me almost 10 years to do so.
 Dave



 

 On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST 
 jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi,,
 Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue
 from CS and suggestions for which CS maker to buy.
 ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym
 M and CS.

 I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for Lyme
 and how to increase dosage.

 Thanks Sandy

 

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Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme

[Dave Darrin]

Gretchen
I make my own -- Around 20 ppm
I was tested later, about 8 years later and they found nothing. Of course
testing being as it is, negative doesn't mean much.
Dave


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:59 PM, bodhipakkh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dave what stregnth/brand cs did you use?  and did you get retested after?

 gretchen

 On Nov 6, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Dave Darrin wrote:

 Rod
 CDS is chlorine dioxide gas made from MMS. Look up Jim Humble, he has
 video on Utube as to how to make it.
   The ten years refers to how long it took for me to show a gray skin from
 Argeria.
 Dave

 On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Rod Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net wrote:

 ** ** **

 What is the CDS as I make my own CS 11 to 18 ppm?  Will it take 10 years?
 

 ** **
  --

 *From:* Dave Darrin [mailto:**davedar...@gmail.com**]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:24 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme

 ** **

 Jerry
I took 4 oz. every 20 minutes for three days ( excluding nights) and
 knocked out the active Lyme just that quick. Possibly with the enzyme
 treatment you could eradicate the spirochetes ,both active and  dormant
 but it would probably take longer. I don't know if the CS will work as
 well as the CDS, you will have to figure that out for your self. Even if
 you knock it out completely it will take an extended period of time to heal
 from the damage that has been done.
   Don't worry about turning gray, it took me almost 10 years to do so.
 Dave



 

 On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST 
 jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi,,
 Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue
 from CS and suggestions for which CS maker to buy.
 ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym
 M and CS.

 I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for
 Lyme and how to increase dosage.

 Thanks Sandy

 

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Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer

[Dave Darrin]

 Dee
  I think you have hit  on a problem that has concerned me for quite some
time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably
already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative  to vascular
problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with
massive doses of Vit C.
  Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large
doses at that time would be counter productive I would think.
  Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and
deprives your thyroid of something it needs. The thyroid controls almost
every gland in your body and if not working properly can open a doorway to
many disorders.
  My thought is to take smaller amounts, enough to satisfy your needs,
maybe not enough to go beyond bowel tolerance. Bowel tolerance is a sign
you are overdoing  and the body is putting on the brakes before you do
damage.
  I spilled a drop of iodine on a painted windowsill , I tried to wipe it
off, that didn't affect it at all so I tried to wash it off with detergent
and that didn't affect it either, three months later it still looked like a
fresh spill so one night I laid a Vit C pill on the spot ,thinking I would
crush it and try to scrub up the stain if that would soften it a bit. Well
to my surprise the next morning the spot was gone and the area looked as if
I had possibly repainted it. The pill had turned a darker color. That was
proof to me of just how intensely Vit C
grabs iodine and removes it from your system.

Thoughts to ponder
Dave


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

  I dissolved the soy lecithin in the distilled water before it went into
 the sonic cleaner.  This only took a couple of hours just shaking it up
 occasionally and then it was completely dissolved.  The only problem is, I
 am on another list which strongly suggests that taking supplemental Vit C
 can actually *help* cancer to survive.  I would be interested to hear any
 comments on this.  dee


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 I whip the pre-mix by hand and it takes a little more time to get a good
 dissolve, but the emulsification in the finished product is vastly superior
 to soy granules and it always stays perfectly in suspension.

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  * Subject: * RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin
  * Sent: * Sun, Nov 4, 2012 2:30:49 AM


  I have made the Lip C with both liquid sunflower lecithin and soy
 lecithin granules. Although I’m not a fan of soy, I found that my body
 tolerated the soy lecithin okay.   The liquid is sticky and MUCH more
 difficult to emulsify—although it can be done. You simply need to spend
 about 3 times longer with the sonic cleaner to make sure that everything
 dissolves correctly. Shaking it in a jar beforehand doesn’t hurt either.
 Nenah   Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011) *Holistic
 Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification
 www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com ; www.rifehandbook.com 
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Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer

[Dave Darrin]

Dee
 The liposomal would escape the stomach acid but would multiply the chance
of thyroid problem as there would be so much more in the blood stream and
would also increase the acidic side of the PH scale.
It seems that moderation is the best course as sometimes our bodies don't
get enough from just the food we eat. I still take Vit C but only two days
a week, one gram per dose,I started that because it neutralized MMS and CDS.
Now if I could only get my temp above 96.9. sometimes it is only 96.5
Dave

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

  These are conclusions I have come to Dave which is why I don’t use the
 Vit C anymore.  I know the liposomal kind doesn’t cause the same problems
 that ordinary stuff does, be even so, I have become very wary now of
 supplementing with anything out of context i.e anything that is not in food
 form.  Except Vit D3 which I take in liposomal spray form.  dee


 --
 *From: *Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
 *Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800
 *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject: *Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
 *Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Resent-Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800

  Dee
   I think you have hit  on a problem that has concerned me for quite some
 time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably
 already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative  to vascular
 problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with
 massive doses of Vit C.
   Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large
 doses at that time would be counter productive I would think.
   Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and
 deprives your thyroid of something it needs. The thyroid controls almost
 every gland in your body and if not working properly can open a doorway to
 many disorders.
   My thought is to take smaller amounts, enough to satisfy your needs,
 maybe not enough to go beyond bowel tolerance. Bowel tolerance is a sign
 you are overdoing  and the body is putting on the brakes before you do
 damage.
   I spilled a drop of iodine on a painted windowsill , I tried to wipe it
 off, that didn't affect it at all so I tried to wash it off with detergent
 and that didn't affect it either, three months later it still looked like a
 fresh spill so one night I laid a Vit C pill on the spot ,thinking I would
 crush it and try to scrub up the stain if that would soften it a bit. Well
 to my surprise the next morning the spot was gone and the area looked as if
 I had possibly repainted it. The pill had turned a darker color. That was
 proof to me of just how intensely Vit C
 grabs iodine and removes it from your system.

 Thoughts to ponder
 Dave

Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer

[Dave Darrin]

PT
 Thanks I will look It up.
Dave

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 12:00 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 I had a temperature like yours and finally found a doctor who suggested
 the Wilson Body Temperature protocol.  It has worked wonders for me.
 Perhaps it would help you also.
 PT

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 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sun, November 4, 2012 2:54:48 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer

 Dee
  The liposomal would escape the stomach acid but would multiply the chance
 of thyroid problem as there would be so much more in the blood stream and
 would also increase the acidic side of the PH scale.
 It seems that moderation is the best course as sometimes our bodies don't
 get enough from just the food we eat. I still take Vit C but only two days
 a week, one gram per dose,I started that because it neutralized MMS and CDS.
 Now if I could only get my temp above 96.9. sometimes it is only 96.5
 Dave

 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

  These are conclusions I have come to Dave which is why I don’t use the
 Vit C anymore.  I know the liposomal kind doesn’t cause the same problems
 that ordinary stuff does, be even so, I have become very wary now of
 supplementing with anything out of context i.e anything that is not in food
 form.  Except Vit D3 which I take in liposomal spray form.  dee


 --
 *From: *Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
 *Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800
 *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject: *Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer
 *Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Resent-Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:16:35 -0800

  Dee
   I think you have hit  on a problem that has concerned me for quite some
 time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably
 already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative  to vascular
 problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure with
 massive doses of Vit C.
   Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large
 doses at that time would be counter productive I would think.
   Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and
 deprives your thyroid of something it needs. The thyroid controls almost
 every gland in your body and if not working properly can open a doorway to
 many disorders.
   My thought is to take smaller amounts, enough to satisfy your needs,
 maybe not enough to go beyond bowel tolerance. Bowel tolerance is a sign
 you are overdoing  and the body is putting on the brakes before you do
 damage.
   I spilled a drop of iodine on a painted windowsill , I tried to wipe it
 off, that didn't affect it at all so I tried to wash it off with detergent
 and that didn't affect it either, three months later it still looked like a
 fresh spill so one night I laid a Vit C pill on the spot ,thinking I would
 crush it and try to scrub up the stain if that would soften it a bit. Well
 to my surprise the next morning the spot was gone and the area looked as if
 I had possibly repainted it. The pill had turned a darker color. That was
 proof to me of just how intensely Vit C
 grabs iodine and removes it from your system.

 Thoughts to ponder
 Dave

Re: CSMultiple Sclerosis

[Dave Darrin]

Gary
 The number one misdiagnoses of Lyme disease is MS.
That is what they said I had before I insisted on a Lyme test.
Dave

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 i'm really enjoying some of the things i can understand .hah i would like
 to hear from anyone who has MS
 or knows of anything in the realms of CS that can help.
 Thx  gary

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 Lord Jesus Christ.
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Re: Sv: RE: CS Sunflower Lecithin - Vit C and cancer

[Dave Darrin]

Hello Chuck
 I figure I'll reach middle age at that point in my life.
Haven't made it yet at 77
Dave

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Not a stong arguement against C...
 Pauling died at age 93 when most people are long gone anyway.
 I'd take these odds!

 Chuck
 Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp.

 On 11/4/2012 1:16:35 PM, Dave Darrin (davedar...@gmail.com) wrote:
   Dee
I think you have hit  on a problem that has concerned me for quite some
  time about enormous amounts of Vit C being ingested. As you probably
  already know, the man that promoted Vit C as a preventative  to vascular
  problems, Dr Linus Pauling, died of cancer that he was trying to cure
 with
  massive doses of Vit C.
Vit C is an acid and cancer loves an acidic environment so extra large
  doses at that time would be counter productive I would think.
Another thought concerning Vit C is that it binds with Iodine and


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Re: CSDosage of CS for Lyme

[Dave Darrin]

Jerry
   I took 4 oz. every 20 minutes for three days ( excluding nights) and
knocked out the active Lyme just that quick. Possibly with the enzyme
treatment you could eradicate the spirochetes ,both active and  dormant
but it would probably take longer. I don't know if the CS will work as well
as the CDS, you will have to figure that out for your self. Even if you
knock it out completely it will take an extended period of time to heal
from the damage that has been done.
  Don't worry about turning gray, it took me almost 10 years to do so.
Dave




On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST 
jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi,,
 Thank you all who explained about the slight chance of turning gray=blue
 from CS and suggestions for which CS maker to buy.
 ANnd thank you Dave for your Lyme suggestions. I plan to try the Wobenzym
 M and CS.

 I would appreciate an suggestions of how much homemade CS to take for Lyme
 and how to increase dosage.

 Thanks Sandy

Re: CSFibromyalgia

[Dave Darrin]

Dianne
  He must have caught it early, in my case I had Lyme for 42 years before
being diagnosed and It was well encysted so conventional treatment had no
chance of a cure.
Dave

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.comwrote:

  my husband was diagnosed with lyme years ago and went thru treatment and
 they said he tested clear.  he hasn't
 shown any signs since and that was years ago.  thank goodness he didn't go
 thru what many of you have with the
 disease.

 I have never been bit that I know of so I'll assume they diagnosed me
 correctly.  I don't have total faith in the medical
 field so anything is possible.
 D

 --
 From: msad...@msadams.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSFibromyalgia
 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:01:59 -0500

 Keep in mind too that Chronic Lyme disease is often misdiagnosed as
 Fibromyalgia. See my website for free information.

  Scott Adams
 I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet!
 www.lyme-resource.com

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 *From:* Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 29, 2012 3:23 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* CSFibromyalgia

 Hi: Appreciate all the advice on here but have to admit i dont understand
 much of it.
 Does anyone know of any benefits of CS on fibro? i know that dmso might
 help some aching and soreness.
 Also ho wowuld i mix the cs with dmso to apply to skin or joints?
 Thanks so much
 gary

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CSpromising late lyme cure

[Dave Darrin]

Something I forgot to mention.
I've had two very prominent dark red scars across my cheek from when I was
12 years old, I ran into a barbed wire that had been left up after  a fence
was removed. The wire was just the right hight. It almost cut all the way
through into my mouth.
 Now 65 years later I have no more scars as a result of my CDS/enzyme
treatment . I've taken a few courses in the past of serrapeptase enzyme but
didn't notice any difference then, but the amount of wobenzyme I used in
this therapy is probably what did the trick.
  I hope more people check out this Lyme protocol because it actually works
and not to expensive either.

  As far as the Argeria question is concerned, we had a thread some time
back and a number of list members joined in and were quite concerned that
their condition was being swept under the rug , so to speak, by those that
make money from CS/EIS or whatever else you might want to call it
( It's all the same thing)( about 80% Ionic).
A very short time after we had all told our stories and it was
considered that we made it correctly but some like myself had used to much
for to long a time, our own Marshal Dudly came on here and said you
couldn't possibly get Argeria from properly made CS--He sells lots of
it.
Dave



On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Update

 Just to let you that are interested know, At this time I have no symptoms
 of lyme left and feel that the enzyme protocol worked

 Only time will tell but I don't really want to stop taking the CDS to find
 out if it returns.

 Dave


  Re: CSpromising late lyme cure

 Tony Moody
 Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:05:30 -0700

 Hi Dave,

 Thanks for the report/update.

 Have the smurf features gone away; with time or anything else?

 In retrospect what would you recommend?

 OK,
 Tony

 On 6 Jun 2012 at 13:06, Dave Darrin wrote about :
 Subject : CSpromising late lyme cure

  To all with Lyme questions
 
After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
oz
  every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
  or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria .
   Look in the archives for the whole story if you need it.
When the Argeria got to a point where I didn't wish to turn any darker I
  stopped taking the CS.  For two years I didn't have any Lyme symptoms so I
  thought all was OK then It hit me with all it's fury. So after I got to
  the point that I couldn't walk I started looking for a way to get rid of
  it without turning into more of a Smurf .
 
 
I used the Wobenzym M and CDS which is the gas from activated MMS. ( Jim
  Humble tells you how to make it)
   I've been taking this Wobenzym M ( 6 tablets twice a day on an empty
  stomach) with CDS one hour later. I've been doing this for a month and am
  back nearly as good as before the attack.
   The CDS unlike MMS is flavorless and has a very faint smell so it's easer
  to take long term.
 
  The Enzyme eats holes in the protective coating that forms on the hidden
  spirochete and the nodules they form that contain their DNA and allows the
  imune system to find them and the CS, CDS, MMS or whatever you choose to
  kill it with to be effective .
 
  Take a look at the link
 
 
 
 
  http://www.healthsalon.org/505/cure-chronic-lyme/
 
 
  Dave
 

CSpromising lat lyme cure

[Dave Darrin]

 Update

Just to let you that are interested know, At this time I have no symptoms
of lyme left and feel that the enzyme protocol worked

Only time will tell but I don't really want to stop taking the CDS to find
out if it returns.

Dave


 Re: CSpromising late lyme cure

Tony Moody
Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:05:30 -0700

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the report/update.

Have the smurf features gone away; with time or anything else?

In retrospect what would you recommend?

OK,
Tony

On 6 Jun 2012 at 13:06, Dave Darrin wrote about :
Subject : CSpromising late lyme cure

 To all with Lyme questions

   After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
   oz
 every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
 or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria .
  Look in the archives for the whole story if you need it.
   When the Argeria got to a point where I didn't wish to turn any darker I
 stopped taking the CS.  For two years I didn't have any Lyme symptoms so I
 thought all was OK then It hit me with all it's fury. So after I got to
 the point that I couldn't walk I started looking for a way to get rid of
 it without turning into more of a Smurf .


   I used the Wobenzym M and CDS which is the gas from activated MMS. ( Jim
 Humble tells you how to make it)
  I've been taking this Wobenzym M ( 6 tablets twice a day on an empty
 stomach) with CDS one hour later. I've been doing this for a month and am
 back nearly as good as before the attack.
  The CDS unlike MMS is flavorless and has a very faint smell so it's easer
 to take long term.

 The Enzyme eats holes in the protective coating that forms on the hidden
 spirochete and the nodules they form that contain their DNA and allows the
 imune system to find them and the CS, CDS, MMS or whatever you choose to
 kill it with to be effective .

 Take a look at the link




 http://www.healthsalon.org/505/cure-chronic-lyme/


 Dave

Re: CSpromising late lyme cure

[Dave Darrin]

That's amazing---I take all but the Vit-E every day and have for ten years.
I took the Vit-E  for two of those years and didn't have any improvement at
all. So much for that!
Dave

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:52 AM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.comwrote:


  Hi,
  I found this on : http://www.eytonsearth.org/forum/about7.html
  “
 The original post on the formula for Argyria Cured:

 About two months ago, I was contacted by an individual with an amazing
 story:

 This individual utilized 32 ounces of silver chloride daily for 2.5 years
 and cured a very late stage case of Nuerosyphilis.

 The silver chloride was produced in ten minute batches using the 3 nine's
 method of production with no controls.

 I have since spent quite some time on the phone with this individual.

 The second part of this story:

 By ingesting large amounts of a high concentration silver salt, the
 individual acquired argyria. It was likely a bit more severe than Stan
 Jones, but certainly not an aggravated condition like Rosemary Jacobs'
 agryria. It was bad enough to turn heads in a grocery store.

 However, this individual didn't stop with eliminating his lethal
 condition. He also reversed the argyria.

 Many have long discussed the possibility of using Vitamin E, Selenium, and
 other supplements with a cleansing program to reverse the condition,
 however, we've never seen someone actually accomplish it. It took six
 months of dedicated effort, but the individual's skin complexion returned
 to absolute normal.

 Furthermore, the individual stopped taking the supplement program, resumed
 silver use, and his skin began to change once again. Whereby he resumed the
 supplementation, and the skin returned to normal.

 Apparently, the silver build-up in the body when it reaches high enough
 levels to deposit visible silver in the skin is quite extensive. The
 process of removal is slow, but effective.

 Furthermore, the individual actually had spirochetes in the eyes; the only
 thing that remains is slight scar tissue, and the individual, who was
 losing the use of the eyes, can see perfectly fine.

 The list of symptoms with such an event is extensive. The individual was
 near liver failure, and within three months of initial silver use, was all
 but completely restored to full health. Fevers spiking 3-5 times daily, a
 chronic and severe lung infection, inflammation of the liver, shut down of
 the body's elimination systems, loss of reduction of cognitive ability,
 extreme and disabling fatigue are among the symptoms that fell to the power
 of this... Silver Chloride.

 Obviously silver choride as a product is not equal to the superior
 isolated silver products. However, the question remains: Would consuming
 isolated silver have delivered enough actual silver content to the body to
 be effective in this case?

 A Cure for Argyria: The Formula

 3 Vitamin E 1000 mg 100% Natural d-alpha Tocopheryl ( note that this can
 be a dangerous amount of Vitamin E )

 1 Selenium 100mcg yeast free

 2 vegetarian Vitamin C 1000 mg

 1 teaspoon MSM organic

 1 super potency Vitamin B 100,

 1 teaspoon of Kelp powder:



 Taken every morning with 2 16oz glasses of water, with close to a total of
 3/4 of a gallon drinking water a day.
 “
  all credits to the original poster
  peace to all,
  Asif.


  *From:* Harold har...@telus.net
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2012 6:39 PM
 *To:* PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net ; silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSpromising late lyme cure


 Go to Silver Archives and search ;

  *: Selenium for Argyria*
  **
 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html



  PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
  *Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2012 8:12 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* RE: CSpromising late lyme cure


 I remember reading an article of a man who got rid of the argeria but I
 have not been able to find the link again.  You might want to try.

 PT

 

 

Re: CSpromising late lyme cure

[Dave Darrin]

Hello Tony
  They not only don't go away they get worse with very little added use.
I guess learning to live with it is what has to happen. I've tried the
various remedies and had no luck so I'm using CDS
and it seems to have the same benefits without the Smurf problem.
Dave


On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 Thanks for the report/update.

 Have the smurf features gone away; with time or anything else?

 In retrospect what would you recommend?

 OK,
 Tony

 On 6 Jun 2012 at 13:06, Dave Darrin wrote about :
 Subject : CSpromising late lyme cure

  To all with Lyme questions
 
After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
oz
  every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
  or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria .
   Look in the archives for the whole story if you need it.
When the Argeria got to a point where I didn't wish to turn any darker
 I
  stopped taking the CS.  For two years I didn't have any Lyme symptoms so
 I
  thought all was OK then It hit me with all it's fury. So after I got to
  the point that I couldn't walk I started looking for a way to get rid of
  it without turning into more of a Smurf .
 
 
I used the Wobenzym M and CDS which is the gas from activated MMS. (
 Jim
  Humble tells you how to make it)
   I've been taking this Wobenzym M ( 6 tablets twice a day on an empty
  stomach) with CDS one hour later. I've been doing this for a month and am
  back nearly as good as before the attack.
   The CDS unlike MMS is flavorless and has a very faint smell so it's
 easer
  to take long term.
 
  The Enzyme eats holes in the protective coating that forms on the hidden
  spirochete and the nodules they form that contain their DNA and allows
 the
  imune system to find them and the CS, CDS, MMS or whatever you choose to
  kill it with to be effective .
 
  Take a look at the link
 
 
 
 
  http://www.healthsalon.org/505/cure-chronic-lyme/
 
 
  Dave
 



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Re: CSpromising late lyme cure

[Dave Darrin]

PT
  Jason has a protocol for Argeria but I haven't heard of anyone actually
having success with it. I sure didn't.
Dave

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:12 AM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  I remember reading an article of a man who got rid of the argeria but I
 have not been able to find the link again.  You might want to try.

 PT

 ** **

 *From:* Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:04 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSpromising late lyme cure

 ** **

 Hello Tony
   They not only don't go away they get worse with very little added use.
 I guess learning to live with it is what has to happen. I've tried the
 various remedies and had no luck so I'm using CDS
 and it seems to have the same benefits without the Smurf problem.
 Dave

 

 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 Thanks for the report/update.

 Have the smurf features gone away; with time or anything else?

 In retrospect what would you recommend?

 OK,
 Tony

 On 6 Jun 2012 at 13:06, Dave Darrin wrote about :
 Subject : CSpromising late lyme cure


  To all with Lyme questions
 
After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4
oz
  every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
  or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria .
   Look in the archives for the whole story if you need it.
When the Argeria got to a point where I didn't wish to turn any darker
 I
  stopped taking the CS.  For two years I didn't have any Lyme symptoms so
 I
  thought all was OK then It hit me with all it's fury. So after I got to
  the point that I couldn't walk I started looking for a way to get rid of
  it without turning into more of a Smurf .
 
 
I used the Wobenzym M and CDS which is the gas from activated MMS. (
 Jim
  Humble tells you how to make it)
   I've been taking this Wobenzym M ( 6 tablets twice a day on an empty
  stomach) with CDS one hour later. I've been doing this for a month and am
  back nearly as good as before the attack.
   The CDS unlike MMS is flavorless and has a very faint smell so it's
 easer
  to take long term.
 
  The Enzyme eats holes in the protective coating that forms on the hidden
  spirochete and the nodules they form that contain their DNA and allows
 the
  imune system to find them and the CS, CDS, MMS or whatever you choose to
  kill it with to be effective .
 
  Take a look at the link
 
 
 
 
  http://www.healthsalon.org/505/cure-chronic-lyme/
 
 
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CSpromising late lyme cure

[Dave Darrin]

To all with Lyme questions

  After killing Active Lyme for 10 years with a vigorous CS protocol ( 4 oz
every 20 minutes for three days) and a maintenance dose of  a glass a day
or more like drinking water,  I started turning quite gray from Argeria .
 Look in the archives for the whole story if you need it.
  When the Argeria got to a point where I didn't wish to turn any darker I
stopped taking the CS.  For two years I didn't have any Lyme symptoms so I
thought all was OK then It hit me with all it's fury. So after I got to the
point that I couldn't walk I started looking for a way to get rid of it
without turning into more of a Smurf .


  I used the Wobenzym M and CDS which is the gas from activated MMS. ( Jim
Humble tells you how to make it)
 I've been taking this Wobenzym M ( 6 tablets twice a day on an empty
stomach) with CDS one hour later. I've been doing this for a month and am
back nearly as good as before the attack.
 The CDS unlike MMS is flavorless and has a very faint smell so it's easer
to take long term.

The Enzyme eats holes in the protective coating that forms on the hidden
spirochete and the nodules they form that contain their DNA and allows the
imune system to find them and the CS, CDS, MMS or whatever you choose to
kill it with to be effective .

Take a look at the link




http://www.healthsalon.org/505/cure-chronic-lyme/


Dave

Re: CSIs this Herxheimer Reaction??

[Dave]

Hi again,

thanks for your comments,

I tried taking the CS just one teaspoon and had the bad cramps again..
so stopped taking it completely and all my symptoms have more or less stopped..
maybe with an already stressed immune system I was sensitive to a  new substance
or maybe it was just a  die off...
thats the problem with experimenting on oneself without any medical back up 
which  many people
in my situation have to do...

thanks again

Dave

CSIs this Herxheimer Reaction??

[Dave]

hello,

glad to finally find a forum for discussing CS, not many around..

I decided to start making and taking CS as I have Crohns disease, so they tell 
me anyway, been on a diet called Specific Carbohydrate Diet for about 4 years.. 
no medication, don't drink much if any alcohol, dont smoke anything

I wanted to see if this CS could heal me or help me in some way..

so I made it, 10ppm according to the guy who made the constant current machine, 
no reason to doubt him. it has the tyndal effect and is clear...

I took about 2 teaspoons 3 times a day,  for about 4 weeks, felt fine... then 
all hell broke lose... felt like I was having a Crohns flare, excruciating 
cramping, nausea vommitting..lasted 1 and a half days..

then felt ok with that but came down with flu or cold symptoms... which I never 
really get due to the healthy diet I follow...

extremely runny nose, watery eyes, dry feeling in mouth and chest, sneezing 
like I have never sneezed before and a kinda dull head..not really a headache.. 
had this for a couple of days..

so is this a die off of bacteria etc??

should I stop taking the CS for  few days or just lower the amount??

anything I can add to my diet to help?


I know every case is different depending on what ailments you have, but I could 
really do with some advice here... 


apologies for the long post but wanted to give the background info to start 
off..

Thanks
Dave

Re: CSnebulized peroxide and silver safe to alternate? [GishPuppy]

[Dave Darrin]

Depends on the heat source, as my Dad would have said not knowing I
hesitate to say
Dave

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:55 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 I mean, how long does it take to evaporate X amount of water?

 ~David


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Re: CSnebulized peroxide and silver safe to alternate? [GishPuppy]

[Dave Darrin]

I always just settled for half at a time. You can get a used coffee pot at
Goodwill for about 5 bucks, you don't have to make coffee in it.
Dave

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:41 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 How much water can be evaporated per unit time?

 ~David

 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:
  I would imagine you could use a gallon jar and a low wattage food warmer
 of
  some kind. I don't know but would suppose you wouldn't want it to boil.
  Boiling would probably cause agglomeration.
   I make 20 ppm so it goes faster than you would at 10.
  Dave
 


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Re: CSFlora effects...

[Dave Darrin]

Mike:
Would ten years ,mostly using it for drinking water,be long enough? Never
had a gut problem.
Now that I have a discoloration (argeria) I don't even have anything start
to form such as colds,flu .
Before the color change, colds would start and then within a few hours would
go away.
For the last two years I haven't been injesting the cs. I mix it 50/50 with
Listerine and hold in my mouth while readying for bed .
Dave



On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:10 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

 Neville writes:

  P.S. Regarding the 'friendly flora', I've consumed and administered on
  occasion 500ml plus every day for several days and I, nor the person I
  administered it to, have ever experienced any affects on that flora.
  Perhaps it depends on what solution is ingested?  Shop bought, or home
  produced?  LVDC or HVAC produced? High ion content as opposed to high
  particle content?  Plus the many other product variations available?

 I think the key to your success is you didn't keep doing it for long
 enough. Believe me, when you manage to wipe your flora the effects are
 noticeable! I wager you can get by for several days but doing it for
 a few *weeks* would have a good chance of doing the deed.

 Just for future reference! grin

 Peace,

 Mike D.

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Re: CSnebulized peroxide and silver safe to alternate? [GishPuppy]

[Dave Darrin]

David
  If you want a high concentration it's quite easy to make from the product
you make normally. Just put it in your well cleaned coffee carafe and set it
on the coffee hotplate. keep an eye on it occasionally as it reduces (
steams off) part of the water. when half of the water is gone you have
doubled the PPM. just don't let it go dry.  Don't worry about the color it
changes to when the concentration gets high, it doesn't mean that the
particles are getting bigger. If you add the same amount of distilled water
you steamed off it returns to clear. Bigger particles would stay big not
disappear.
Dave

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:36 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 I hope not.  I am very interested to see what all he is working on, and
 would be happy to use my site to seed it into the larger web if it is really
 a good thing.  I am also curious if it could help me beat my bugs.

 And man, new discoveries on the lyme community spread really fast, and
 something like Mike is working on just could be the next thing.

 ~David


 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:26 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Heh!
 I'm in the pool, picking less than a month on MM...  silver list.

Chuck

 I

Re: CSnebulized peroxide and silver safe to alternate? [GishPuppy]

[Dave Darrin]

I've taken it to around 380 ppm. It was a light greenish brown and went back
clear after adding the water.
I never let it get below 1/2 the carafe volume. At that point I topped it
off and let it steam down again and again and again etc.
Dave

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:56 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 That...is a really good suggestionhave you tried this evaporation and
 recombining and seen the color change back to clear?  And what is the most
 you've every tried concentrating it?  I would want to try concentrating a
 quart in to like 1/20th the volume, and do it sublingual/oral.  If it really
 does recombine with water well, I would think this does not increase the
 argyria profile.

 ~David


 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:

 David
   If you want a high concentration it's quite easy to make from the
 product you make normally. Just put it in your well cleaned coffee carafe
 and set it on the coffee hotplate. keep an eye on it occasionally as it
 reduces ( steams off) part of the water. when half of the water is gone you
 have doubled the PPM. just don't let it go dry.  Don't worry about the color
 it changes to when the concentration gets high, it doesn't mean that the
 particles are getting bigger. If you add the same amount of distilled water
 you steamed off it returns to clear. Bigger particles would stay big not
 disappear.
  Dave

 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:36 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I hope not.  I am very interested to see what all he is working on, and
 would be happy to use my site to seed it into the larger web if it is really
 a good thing.  I am also curious if it could help me beat my bugs.

 And man, new discoveries on the lyme community spread really fast, and
 something like Mike is working on just could be the next thing.

 ~David


 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:26 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Heh!
 I'm in the pool, picking less than a month on MM...  silver list.

Chuck

 I

Re: CSnebulized peroxide and silver safe to alternate? [GishPuppy]

[Dave Darrin]

I would imagine you could use a gallon jar and a low wattage food warmer of
some kind. I don't know but would suppose you wouldn't want it to boil.
Boiling would probably cause agglomeration.
 I make 20 ppm so it goes faster than you would at 10.
Dave

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:19 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 Why not let it get lower?  You would have to evaporate half the
 container like 8 times by my calculations if you had 10PPM EIS to get
 200PPM.  Can you just evaporate 19/20ths of the container once?
 (Sorry...I own no coffee of coffee parafanaleeea).

 Is their another device I might own I can evaporate with?

 It seems I do not properly understand how the agglomerated particles
 come to be in the first place.  I assumed the solution gets crowded,
 and silver hydroxides collide.  If this were the mechanism, your
 evaporation experiments would not have been reversible.  Can someone
 enlighten me on the mechanism of formation of agglomerated particles
 in EIS?

 ~David

 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've taken it to around 380 ppm. It was a light greenish brown and went
 back clear after adding the water.
  I never let it get below 1/2 the carafe volume. At that point I topped it
 off and let it steam down again and again and again etc.
  Dave


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Re: CSafibbers magnesium bicarbonate water - off topic

[Dave Darrin]

Pt
Have you tried the liquor store.
I once owned a bar and that is where I got it.
Dave

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hi,
 I finally got around to going and purchasing the necessary items to make
 the magnesium bicarbonate water.  The only thing is that when I got home  I
 found that the Seagram's club soda I purchased also has potassium phosphate,
 magnesium sulvate and potasium bicarbonate in it.  The directions were
 specific about having nothing other than CO2 and water but I have been
 looking and have not been able to find any seltzer or club soda in the
 stores I have been checking that are only CO2 and water.

 Any ideas?
 Thanks.
 PT

Re: CSCM v CMO as a brand Powder v. liquid Brooks please review and c omment as time permits.

[Dave Darrin]

Connie

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, craehow...@juno.com craehow...@juno.comwrote:

 Sandy..  were is the CM powder located on the site?  I looked and could not
 locate it?

 Connie

Try typing 713.1 or 713.6 in a BAC search box.
Dave



 Hi Jim,

 I just bought some CM powder from this Beyond A Century which Brooks
 recommended [http://easycart.net/BeyondACenturyInc./] and I do not know
 what to think about powder vs liquid but I do trust Mr Bradley and he said
 they used powder.

 It seems to me this article is advocating you use their liquid CMO so
 clearly they are biased.

 Regards,
 Sandy

 --- On *Thu, 3/24/11, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com* wrote:




 From: Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com
 Subject: CSCM v CMO as a brand Powder v. liquid Brooks please review and
 comment as time permits.
 Everyone, please comment upon and critique the below, taken from a
 commercial site.  Note especially the bold sections. Emphasis added in this
 mail by JH.

 Part of it is obvious obfuscation using a brand name to confuse, but some
 assertions need investigation, like powder not possibly being CM.



 
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Re: CSGood and bad bacteria,,,woman with illness

[Dave Darrin]

I would say that it is probably Lyme. I had that same feeling and nothing
helped until I killed the Lyme. Haven't had it since.
Dave

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:29 PM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote:

  Talking about...Controversial Illness...anyone heard of a disease that
 feels like bugs crawling under ones skin...is this mold related?   Someone
 suggested Lyme diseasehow mush cs do you take for it?

  In a message dated 3/8/2011 9:23:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
 ja...@eytonsearth.org writes:

 Greetings, everyone:

 This subject always produces great confusion, and there really is no need
 for it.

 I ask that those interested in understanding how antimicrobial substances
 work in the gut read pages  249 - 259 of my book, most of which has been
 made available for free on Google books:


 http://books.google.com/books?id=juKFJZ2OP3UClpg=PA249dq=dr%20lind%20claypg=PA249#v=onepageq=dr%20lind%20clayf=false

 The confusion is easily solved when contrasting the desireable population
 counts of good bacteria vs. the population counts of bad bacteria, and how
 quickly good bacteria repopulates in the large intestines, provided that the
 biological terrain has been restored.

 If one desires to hammer the large intestines in order to eradicate
 pathogenic organisms overgrowth, then colloidal silver, olive leaf extract
 (East Park Research), and a high quality healing clay can be used.  In
 situations where there is a severe imbalance in the colon, a high quality
 probiotic can be used.  Howver, one needs to use the probiotic not because
 these antimicrobial substances have wiped out the good organisms, but
 because there is a good chance that the imbalance in the digestive system
 has already depleted them.  Those with fantastically functioning digestive
 systems experience no problems, due to the fact that repopulation of the
 good organisms occurs very quickly; and even more quickly as the
 undesireable organisms perish.

 If one wishes to ensure the delivery of active silver into the intestines,
 then mixing colloidal silver with clay is the best way to accomplish this.

 For those using CS for other conditions, as long as the digestive system is
 relatively healthy, there is no real reason to be concerned about the
 over-killing of good bacteria in the gut.

 Kind Regards,

 Jason

 - Original Message -

 *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 06:44
 *Subject:* Re: CSc/s and Bee Mites

 My understanding is, the CS would kill the gut flora if it got in contact
 with it.

 But I believe the CS is absorbed before it gets that far in the digestive
 tract.


 On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote:

   So does this mean that CS kills good bacteria in humans too? This seems
 to be a controversial subject.


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Re: CSCS Doubt.

[Dave Darrin]

Over the years ( I'm 75) I have given my dogs chocolate when ever I ate some
and they all lived an extraordinarily long life. It makes me wonder if that
has a basis in fact or if it was an old fable that has been mindlessly
repeated, like the 650 about CS's effectiveness?
Dave



On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Chocolate is dog poison, but in small amounts it makes most humans very
 happy.

 On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Alan Jones wrote:

 This is bollocks, everything is a poison at high enough quantities, even
 too much water can kill you.  Vit D3 is safe at under 5000IU per day.

 Alan

 On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:36 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote:


 Vitamin d3 is a mouse poison, look up vitamin d3 mouse poison by tom cat
 brand and see if your vitamin d3 has the same ingredient.. cholecalciferol


 --
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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #46

[Dave Darrin]

Neville
  No--Possibly a Multi vitamin but nothing of any consequence. I started
Vit-C-lysine-proline and a couple grams of Niacin at a later date( about 6
years later) but I was still ingesting CS.
Dave

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Dave?

 Just to conclude from my end, you wouldn't happen to remember if you were
 taking/using/applying/inhaling or whatever anything else at the same time
 you were ingesting the EIS/CS would you?

 OK, that's the last question g.  Apologies if I appear rather intrusive,
 PM me if you prefer.

 N.

 --
 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:52:44 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #46
 From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com


  If people think vit C would help, I wonder if lipo-C would help.  I also
 wonder if oral h2o2 could break up particles, like it does in a jar of CS.

 ~David
 http://scientificliving.net/

 On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Melly
   I tried the protocols that were going around at that time. A very
 knowledgeable list member named Jason Had a sure fire way with Selenium and
 Vit-E. It did nothing for me. The only way I have seen any lightening of the
 skin was when I tore some off and after healing there was a spot with normal
 color. I don't think it is important enough to remove my skin to rid me of
 it, actually It gives me a distinction, like showing my perfect health for a
 75 year old.
 Dave


 On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Dave,

 Did you get rid of the gray color on your face? How long did it take you to
 get rid of it? What did use?

 Melly

 --- On *Wed, 2/9/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com* wrote:


 From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
 Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #46
 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 10:06 PM

Re: CSnew..Hello

[Dave Darrin]

Leanne
  I killed Lyme with CS after having it for 40+ years and never had a
problem with taking as much as a quart a day, usually about two ounces for
long term use. I never thought the teaspoon thing would do a thing.
 As for the swelling, salt causes water retention and you might check your
food packaging ingredient list and make sure there is no Soy in it. Soy
suppresses your Thyroid and causes a number of illnesses including Cancer.

Research on Dangers of Soyhttp://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm

Dave

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:49 PM, K M leemo...@hotmail.com wrote:

  HI my name is Leanne;
 Recently started taking ICS for LYme for myself and son..seemed to be going
 real well..till I had a body puff reaction at 5 tsp/4 times a day..over 3
 week period of increasing. ..off now 2 weeks or so..puff still present in
 torso and looks like edema around sock on leg..worse in eve , and if injest
 salt? note I am pretty thin so this is odd for me...wondering if it is toxic
 hard to process, probs processing with kidney, liver or adrenal.  PLease,
  any history of weight gain, same issues, detox what to do with keeping body
 coping with toxins, do Lyme give off fluid??  I was feeling ok..my son
 seemed to be doing great..although now either gained weight or has same
 issue as me. in such a short period of time..also our metabolism has slowed
 to a halt...again I was always fast metabolism..any help appreciated...not
 sure where else to turn..I was hopeful this was a viable tratment..but with
 what happen..I need some explanation and assist..thanks.
 Leanne

Re: CSnew..Hello

[Dave Darrin]

Leanne
 I just poured a small glass about half full--somewhere between 2 and 4 oz.
sometimes 6.
When I first started I drank two pint bottles that I bought (chuged) then my
first generator arrived and I made a Gallon and took about 4 ounces every
waking twenty minutes for three days and that took care of the Lyme. Then I
went on the maintenance dose above for ten years and had not another episode
contributory to Lyme. A good deal of that time I drank Cs for water and
eventually started to get a little gray in the face.(argeria) Now I just mix
50/50 with Listerine and use as mouthwash and gargle. Never get any
respiratory afflictions such as colds or flu.

Dave





On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:33 PM, K M leemo...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Dave:
 How much did you use a day  2 ounces did you say??tHanks..
 Leanne

 --
 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:56:41 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSnew..Hello
 From: davedar...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com


 Leanne
   I killed Lyme with CS after having it for 40+ years and never had a
 problem with taking as much as a quart a day, usually about two ounces for
 long term use. I never thought the teaspoon thing would do a thing.
  As for the swelling, salt causes water retention and you might check your
 food packaging ingredient list and make sure there is no Soy in it. Soy
 suppresses your Thyroid and causes a number of illnesses including Cancer.

 Research on Dangers of Soy

 Dave

 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:49 PM, K M leemo...@hotmail.com wrote:

 HI my name is Leanne;
 Recently started taking ICS for LYme for myself and son..seemed to be going
 real well..till I had a body puff reaction at 5 tsp/4 times a day..over 3
 week period of increasing. ..off now 2 weeks or so..puff still present in
 torso and looks like edema around sock on leg..worse in eve , and if injest
 salt? note I am pretty thin so this is odd for me...wondering if it is toxic
 hard to process, probs processing with kidney, liver or adrenal.  PLease,
  any history of weight gain, same issues, detox what to do with keeping body
 coping with toxins, do Lyme give off fluid??  I was feeling ok..my son
 seemed to be doing great..although now either gained weight or has same
 issue as me. in such a short period of time..also our metabolism has slowed
 to a halt...again I was always fast metabolism..any help appreciated...not
 sure where else to turn..I was hopeful this was a viable tratment..but with
 what happen..I need some explanation and assist..thanks.
 Leanne

Re: CSThat's better. Was...new..Hello

[Dave Darrin]

Neville
  Amazingly the two bottles are still on my shelf. It says CS Pro Systems,
HVAC  colloidal silver 10-12 ppm.
They are brown bottles but the contents I can't attest to as I drank it
straight from the bottle.
The solution I made was closer to 22 ppm according to the manufacturer of
the machine,
Colloid Master 777 on a setting of 9, Actually they said 7 would make 20
ppm.
 I was under the impression that a positive charge was what I was involved
with but have nothing to substantiate that. I was more into the results than
worrying about the mechanics of the treatment.
The maintenance dose was what ever I felt like doing, if I was thirsty I
might drink a quart to satiate my thirst, after all it was nothing but water
with a little bit of silver in it, not some drug.
Hope this shows you how scientificly I went about it.

Dave


On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi Dave,

 Don't mind me hyjacking the Lyme thing for a quick personal comment.

 Now THAT was worthwhile, and USEFUL, information, very good.

 The only thing that's missing is the perported ppm of the two bottles you
 purchased?  And maybe the colour of solution too?

 And praps the ppm of the stuff you were making with your machine?  And the
 colour of that as well?

 Don't mind me picking the bones out of what you said, just using it for
 personal reasons and informative value.

 And that 'maintenance' dose would have been that 2-4-6ozs...Yes/No?

 And if you were consuming it immediately after you produced it - and the
 rest over the next 3 days - then you would have consumed predominantly
 positively charged silver ions  would you not? as the solution was
 stabilising over the following days {and praps had *still* had not reached a
 point of stability, increasing the time span of + charged ion intake}.  THAT
 is part of the 'useful' information for me.

 P.S.  And I too support that notion of a 'couple of teaspoons' not being
 worth a dollop of goat poop, for the treatment of something worthy of attack
 on a larger scale g.

 N.

 --
 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:50:38 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSnew..Hello
 From: davedar...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Leanne
  I just poured a small glass about half full--somewhere between 2 and 4 oz.
 sometimes 6.
 When I first started I drank two pint bottles that I bought (chuged) then
 my first generator arrived and I made a Gallon and took about 4 ounces every
 waking twenty minutes for three days and that took care of the Lyme. Then I
 went on the maintenance dose above for ten years and had not another episode
 contributory to Lyme. A good deal of that time I drank Cs for water and
 eventually started to get a little gray in the face.(argeria) Dave





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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #46

[Dave Darrin]

Melly
  I tried the protocols that were going around at that time. A very
knowledgeable list member named Jason Had a sure fire way with Selenium and
Vit-E. It did nothing for me. The only way I have seen any lightening of the
skin was when I tore some off and after healing there was a spot with normal
color. I don't think it is important enough to remove my skin to rid me of
it, actually It gives me a distinction, like showing my perfect health for a
75 year old.
Dave

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dave,

 Did you get rid of the gray color on your face? How long did it take you to
 get rid of it? What did use?

 Melly

 --- On *Wed, 2/9/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com* wrote:


 From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
 Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #46
 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 10:06 PM

Re: CSmuscle cramps

[Dave Darrin]

Alan
 I take care of mine quite successfully with 400 mg of magnesium, that I get
from costco, in the morning and then another one at bed time. I also use No
Salt which is potassium occasionally in place of salt.
Dave


On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, I've got some homemade mag oil but the stuff is so sticky, after I
 spray it on it just feels nasty.

 What form of potassium do you use?  I've got some Potassium Chloride I add
 to my smoothies but it doesn't seem to help a lot.

 Alan


 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Mag oil (swansonvitamin.com) diluted 50% and sprayed on legs, arms, etc.
 helps, but never underestimate the power of potassium. Whenever I've
 over-hydrated and caused an electrolyte imbalance, potassium seems to be
 what i need. Night-time leg cramps, stomach-cramps in super hot weather,
 post exercise cramps: these seem to need potassium, at least for me.(it
 doesn't take much) Warning: I'm not a doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's
 getting well.
 Be well,
 Léna

 On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Alan Jones wrote:

 Lately whenever I try to exercise I get tons of muscle cramps in the
 subsequent days.  When I use a product called First Endurance EFS
 (Electrolyte Fuel System) it helps a lot.  But it's very expensive.

 Does anyone have any other suggestions for replacing electrolytes on a
 budget?



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 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
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Re: CSsilver-digest Digest V2011 #24

[Dave Darrin]

adamrlloyd@gmail.comIf you want off this list, unsubscribe from it.
How you do it is send a message to just like you just did and put
unsubscribe in the subject line.
Then put nothing in the message plane--leave it empty--Meaning absolutely
blank!
Dave

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM, adamrll...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please get me off this list
 Sent from my BlackBerry® from Optus

Re: CSNewest Research on the Dangers of Soy:COMMENT

[Dave Darrin]

Dee
   The trouble with that avenue of thought is that Soy creeps up on you. It
doesn't necessarily cause a noticeable detriment to you immediately, but
when it does show up it takes a bit of time with non use to stabilize.
Dave

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 The trouble is Dave, that although there may be a somewhat healthier
 choice, not all of us have it.  I, for instance, cannot get sunflower
 lecithin for a reasonable cost, so I go with a good brand of soy lecithin,
 and haven't had any bad effects.  dee


 On 14 Jan 2011, at 23:10, Dave Darrin wrote:

  Brooks
  From what I read in the link you sent they can't remove all the caustic
 stuff, but maybe enough to render it nearly safe.
  Which is enough to make me use something else. There are other lecithin
 products.
  I hope everyone will read that article and come to a healthier choice.
  Dave
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSNewest Research on the Dangers of Soy:COMMENT

[Dave Darrin]

Dee
  Did you carefully read the part that says that the harmful components can
not be removed ? I noticed that while reading the posted link from Brooks.
Dave



On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 But I believe that lecithin from soy does not contain the components that
 cause the problems--or so I have gleaned from people such as Brooks.  Unless
 of course, that a person has an allergy to the substance that is.  dee

 On 15 Jan 2011, at 17:11, Dave Darrin wrote:

  Dee
 The trouble with that avenue of thought is that Soy creeps up on you.
 It doesn't necessarily cause a noticeable detriment to you immediately, but
 when it does show up it takes a bit of time with non use to stabilize.
  Dave
 


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Re: CSNewest Research on the Dangers of Soy:COMMENT

[Dave Darrin]

Brooks
From what I read in the link you sent they can't remove all the caustic
stuff, but maybe enough to render it nearly safe.
Which is enough to make me use something else. There are other lecithin
products.
I hope everyone will read that article and come to a healthier choice.
Dave





On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Dave,
   The processing technology.used during the isolation
 procedures..mitigate against the
 compromising effects of unprocessed soybeansleaving the
 lecithin fraction free of the adverse
 components.in active form.
   Sincerely,  Brooks.

 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Brooks
That fits in exactly with my opinion of Soy But I didn't have the
 research
  at hand to use for argumentation.
  Thank you for that. My question for you is where does that fit in with
 the
  use of soy lecithin. Won't that cause the same problems as mentioned with
  the use in Lipo C?
  Dave
 
  On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 While not a scientifically underpinned with a documented research
  effort by Mercola and associates, this commentary offers the lay
  public
  information that is (in my opinion) of definite value in ones efforts
  to determine the larger truth about the general issue of
  humans (and birds) consuming raw soybean products.including the
  beans themselves.
  I determined, over 40 years ago, the toxicity of unprocessed
  soybeans VERY adverse effect on the health/conditioning
  of Racing Homing Pigeons.  Unless the beans were subjected to elevated
  heat (+325 F) for a minimum of 5 minutes..to
  defeat the digestion-inhibiting components..bowel compromises
  presented immediately.  Other digestive challenges manifested quite
  rapidly
  and caused these highly-conditioned athletes to suffer major/rapid
  deterioration in racing form.
   I concur with the general tenor of this article.
 Sincerely,  Bradley
 
  http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm
 
 
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Re: CSNewest Research on the Dangers of Soy:COMMENT

[Dave Darrin]

Brooks
From what I read in the link you sent they can't remove all the caustic
stuff, but maybe enough to render it nearly safe.
Which is enough to make me use something else. There are other lecithin
products.
I hope everyone will read that article and come to a healthier choice.





On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Dave,
   The processing technology.used during the isolation
 procedures..mitigate against the
 compromising effects of unprocessed soybeansleaving the
 lecithin fraction free of the adverse
 components.in active form.
   Sincerely,  Brooks.

 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Brooks
That fits in exactly with my opinion of Soy But I didn't have the
 research
  at hand to use for argumentation.
  Thank you for that. My question for you is where does that fit in with
 the
  use of soy lecithin. Won't that cause the same problems as mentioned with
  the use in Lipo C?
  Dave
 
  On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 While not a scientifically underpinned with a documented research
  effort by Mercola and associates, this commentary offers the lay
  public
  information that is (in my opinion) of definite value in ones efforts
  to determine the larger truth about the general issue of
  humans (and birds) consuming raw soybean products.including the
  beans themselves.
  I determined, over 40 years ago, the toxicity of unprocessed
  soybeans VERY adverse effect on the health/conditioning
  of Racing Homing Pigeons.  Unless the beans were subjected to elevated
  heat (+325 F) for a minimum of 5 minutes..to
  defeat the digestion-inhibiting components..bowel compromises
  presented immediately.  Other digestive challenges manifested quite
  rapidly
  and caused these highly-conditioned athletes to suffer major/rapid
  deterioration in racing form.
   I concur with the general tenor of this article.
 Sincerely,  Bradley
 
  http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm
 
 
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Re: CSNewest Research on the Dangers of Soy:COMMENT

[Dave Darrin]

Brooks
  That fits in exactly with my opinion of Soy But I didn't have the research
at hand to use for argumentation.
Thank you for that. My question for you is where does that fit in with the
use of soy lecithin. Won't that cause the same problems as mentioned with
the use in Lipo C?
Dave

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.comwrote:

While not a scientifically underpinned with a documented research
 effort by Mercola and associates, this commentary offers the lay
 public
 information that is (in my opinion) of definite value in ones efforts
 to determine the larger truth about the general issue of
 humans (and birds) consuming raw soybean products.including the
 beans themselves.
 I determined, over 40 years ago, the toxicity of unprocessed
 soybeans VERY adverse effect on the health/conditioning
 of Racing Homing Pigeons.  Unless the beans were subjected to elevated
 heat (+325 F) for a minimum of 5 minutes..to
 defeat the digestion-inhibiting components..bowel compromises
 presented immediately.  Other digestive challenges manifested quite
 rapidly
 and caused these highly-conditioned athletes to suffer major/rapid
 deterioration in racing form.
  I concur with the general tenor of this article.
Sincerely,  Bradley

 http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm


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Re: CSwifi?

[Dave Darrin]

KATHY
  My cell phone does that when there is a voice mail on the server. I
couldn't find it until my kids came to visit and heard it.
Dave




On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote:

  This comes from a friend of mine,  any comment anyone?  I'd appreciate
 any input,  thanks,  Kathy.

 I got the email from the silver list that said wireless iternet is harmful
 to our health. At night I am hearing an electronic noise that wakes me up,
 usually between 4 and 6 am. It sounds sort of like cell phone interference
 on a radio: a quick duh-duh-duh, duh-duh-duh followed by a beep beep beep...
 that gets louder and louder. The weird thing is, that as soon as I lift my
 head from the pillow to locate the sound, it stops. It has stopped like this
 every time I tried to find it. I did hear it one night before I went to bed,
 but it was very faint and I couldn't find a location for the source of the
 sound before it went away. My husband can't hear it. We do have internet
 service with wireless capabilities, but we switched off the wireless and
 only use the wired service to our computers. We even unhooked the main
 supply one night and I still heard the sound. I wonder could it still be the
 internet signal because of the antenna on the house? Do you know of anyone
 else with this experience? Any suggestions?

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #936

[Dave Darrin]

Adam:
You have to have the body of the message you send to unsubscribe left
completely BLANK.
Try again and good luck to you.
Dave

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 Today's Topics:
  CSLate Breaking News: one day to st  [ Nenah Sylver 
 nenahsyl...@cox.net ]
  Re: CSDistilled WaterMORE Toxic  [ grace1...@aol.com ]
  CSBrooks - teeth whitening   [ jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com ]
  Re: CSDistilled WaterMORE Toxic  [ grace1...@aol.com ]
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  CSsolubility of silver oxide?[ David AuBuchon
 aubuchon.da...@gmai ]

Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.

[Dave Darrin]

David
  Yes I tried Jasons vitamin E and selenium protocol that was discussed here
and it did nothing,I said so and got chewed out for suggesting that it must
have been something that was designed to make those that don't have argeria
feel better,thinking there was a way out if they got it. I think that the
ones that came up with the idea are in the Silver colloid business.
Dave

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:04 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Dave,

 Did you ever try any of those supplements to try and reverse argyria?

 ~David


 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:05 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 I took Concentrace years ago.  It was comprised of mineral chlorides and I
 ended up becoming ill from too much chloride.  I took broken cell wall
 chlorella even before that and a year after I stopped taking it when I had a
 series of colonics the practitioner asked if I had ever taken chlorella
 because she saw it in the outflow.  Evidently chlorella is not a good thing
 for everyone and I am one of those who should not take it.  With the fulvic
 minerals I not only feel better but in an electrical therapy I use the
 difference can be heard in the tones it emits on those days I take the
 minerals... I would say I am more electrical.
 PT

  --
 *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wed, December 15, 2010 4:17:31 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.

 I used to until I read things which indicated that these minerals taken in
 this form are not bioavailable.  I think things like Concentrace maybe more
 so but it is so easy to imbalance things like minerals which is apparently
 much more harmful than the odd deficiency.  I take chlorella which is a
 'superfood' and contains all minerals in a balanced food form.  dee PS it
 also has the added benefit of helping to remove 'heavy' metals from the
 body.

 On 14 Dec 2010, at 20:13, PT Ferrance wrote:

  I have taken vitamin/mineral supplements for years.  A friend recently
 told me about fulvic minerals and I tried a bottle.  The improvement was
 noticeable within a few days.
  PT
 


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Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.

[Dave Darrin]

David
  I have an accidental remedy for argeria. I'm a mechanic and still do some
of my own work. I have a hydraulic automobile hoist and while working under
a car I barked my head enough to make it bleed profusely. When It healed up
I had a large spot with correct pigment(no scar). So I wonder if some kind
of skin abrasion wouldn't work? There are defoliant protocols for other skin
problems . Just a thought.
Dave

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:54 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 I remember heaing about some other supplements like vitamin C, MSM, and
 kelp powder.  Maybe someday it might be worth looking over that info again?
 Just a thought.  I know you are probably sick of thinking about it by now.
 Also I might suggest liposomal C instead of vitamin C.

 I was also wondering if anyone has though of an oral H2O2 protocol for
 argyria?  Or maybe getting IV H2O2 could do something?  Maybe it could
 oxidize lodged particles and break them up into smaller pieces that are
 naturally removed?  Just a thought.

 ~David


 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:

 David
   Yes I tried Jasons vitamin E and selenium protocol that was discussed
 here and it did nothing,I said so and got chewed out for suggesting that it
 must have been something that was designed to make those that don't have
 argeria feel better,thinking there was a way out if they got it. I think
 that the ones that came up with the idea are in the Silver colloid business.
  Dave


 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:04 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 Did you ever try any of those supplements to try and reverse argyria?

 ~David


 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:05 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 I took Concentrace years ago.  It was comprised of mineral chlorides and
 I ended up becoming ill from too much chloride.  I took broken cell wall
 chlorella even before that and a year after I stopped taking it when I had 
 a
 series of colonics the practitioner asked if I had ever taken chlorella
 because she saw it in the outflow.  Evidently chlorella is not a good thing
 for everyone and I am one of those who should not take it.  With the fulvic
 minerals I not only feel better but in an electrical therapy I use the
 difference can be heard in the tones it emits on those days I take the
 minerals... I would say I am more electrical.
 PT

  --
 *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wed, December 15, 2010 4:17:31 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.

 I used to until I read things which indicated that these minerals taken
 in this form are not bioavailable.  I think things like Concentrace maybe
 more so but it is so easy to imbalance things like minerals which is
 apparently much more harmful than the odd deficiency.  I take chlorella
 which is a 'superfood' and contains all minerals in a balanced food form.
 dee PS it also has the added benefit of helping to remove 'heavy' metals
 from the body.

 On 14 Dec 2010, at 20:13, PT Ferrance wrote:

  I have taken vitamin/mineral supplements for years.  A friend recently
 told me about fulvic minerals and I tried a bottle.  The improvement was
 noticeable within a few days.
  PT
 


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Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.

[Dave Darrin]

Jane
   You never know until you ask.
Might be an information nugget there.
Dave

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Jane MacRoss
highfie...@internode.on.netwrote:

  I'm wondering if there is a homeopathic treatment for this - want me to
 ask the homeopathy list?

 Jane

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Friday, December 17, 2010 3:09 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.

 David
   I have an accidental remedy for argeria. I'm a mechanic and still do some
 of my own work. I have a hydraulic automobile hoist and while working under
 a car I barked my head enough to make it bleed profusely. When It healed up
 I had a large spot with correct pigment(no scar). So I wonder if some kind
 of skin abrasion wouldn't work? There are defoliant protocols for other skin
 problems . Just a thought.
 Dave

 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:54 PM, David AuBuchon 
 aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 I remember heaing about some other supplements like vitamin C, MSM, and
 kelp powder.  Maybe someday it might be worth looking over that info again?
 Just a thought.  I know you are probably sick of thinking about it by now.
 Also I might suggest liposomal C instead of vitamin C.

 I was also wondering if anyone has though of an oral H2O2 protocol for
 argyria?  Or maybe getting IV H2O2 could do something?  Maybe it could
 oxidize lodged particles and break them up into smaller pieces that are
 naturally removed?  Just a thought.

 ~David


 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.comwrote:

 David
   Yes I tried Jasons vitamin E and selenium protocol that was discussed
 here and it did nothing,I said so and got chewed out for suggesting that it
 must have been something that was designed to make those that don't have
 argeria feel better,thinking there was a way out if they got it. I think
 that the ones that came up with the idea are in the Silver colloid business.
 Dave


 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:04 PM, David AuBuchon 
 aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 Did you ever try any of those supplements to try and reverse argyria?

 ~David


 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:05 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  I took Concentrace years ago.  It was comprised of mineral chlorides
 and I ended up becoming ill from too much chloride.  I took broken cell 
 wall
 chlorella even before that and a year after I stopped taking it when I 
 had a
 series of colonics the practitioner asked if I had ever taken chlorella
 because she saw it in the outflow.  Evidently chlorella is not a good 
 thing
 for everyone and I am one of those who should not take it.  With the 
 fulvic
 minerals I not only feel better but in an electrical therapy I use the
 difference can be heard in the tones it emits on those days I take the
 minerals... I would say I am more electrical.
 PT

  --
 *From:* Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wed, December 15, 2010 4:17:31 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.

 I used to until I read things which indicated that these minerals taken
 in this form are not bioavailable.  I think things like Concentrace maybe
 more so but it is so easy to imbalance things like minerals which is
 apparently much more harmful than the odd deficiency.  I take chlorella
 which is a 'superfood' and contains all minerals in a balanced food form.
 dee PS it also has the added benefit of helping to remove 'heavy' metals
 from the body.

 On 14 Dec 2010, at 20:13, PT Ferrance wrote:

  I have taken vitamin/mineral supplements for years.  A friend
 recently told me about fulvic minerals and I tried a bottle.  The
 improvement was noticeable within a few days.
  PT
 


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Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.

[Dave Darrin]

N.
It only took around six ounces a day for me of appropriately produced
solution, but I took it for a number of years daily. It has been more than
ten years now and no return of Lyme. For that I gladly display my grey.
Dave



On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:

  If one were to produce - lets say - a 10ppm solution then that would be
 10mg of silver per 1 litre of water.  Now if one were taking say 30ml a day
 then one would have to divide one into tuther resulting in a miniscule
 intake of silver per day...Yes/No?  Someone else can do the math, I'm a
 dummy.

 And I agree, appropriately produced EIS/CS will not result in coloured
 martians, ignoring for the moment that there is not one case of Argyria to
 be found as a result of ingestion/application/consumption of suitable
 quantities of appropriately produced solution.  As for the consumption of 20
 litres a day...I won't even go there as all bets would be off.

 N.

 --
 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:35:41 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.
 From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com


 I remember approximating there being 3 grams of silver in my CS generator
 cathode.  After maybe 20 gallons of CS, there is still most of it there.

 100mg a day of silver from food would only take a month to hit 3 grams of
 intake.  If this intake measure were true, that would be an argument for
 virtually zero risk of argyria from properly made EIS.

 ~David

 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Harold MacDonald har...@telus.netwrote:

  Under ordinary circumstances,daily consumption of fruits and vegetables
 would yield an intake of  approx. 50-100 mg of silver in the form of a trace
 element,as reported in 1940 by R.A.Kehoe,Ref[15.]

 What isn't taken into account is our food supply does not provide enough
 minerals, and hasn't for a long time as evidenced by these excerpts from
 :U.S. Senate Document 264: 74 th Congress,2 ND Session,1936.

 Our physical well-being is more dependent upon minerals we take into our
 systems than upon calories or vitamins,or upon precise proportions of
 starch,protein or carbohydrates we consume.

 Do you know that most of us today are suffering from certain dangerous
 diet deficiencies which cannot be remedied until depleted soils from which
 our food comes are brought into proper balance?

 *Just a few excerpts from the 74 th Congress,2ND Session,Senate Document
 No 264,1936.*
 **
 *At one time some years ago I had the full document in file downloaded but
 lost it.*
 **
 *Harold*

Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.

[Dave Darrin]

Others saw it long before I did but yes it came on gradually but not at all
for the first six years or so.
Dave

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:57 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 Were you able to see it slowly onset?

 ~David


 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:

 N.
 It only took around six ounces a day for me of appropriately produced
 solution, but I took it for a number of years daily. It has been more than
 ten years now and no return of Lyme. For that I gladly display my grey.
  Dave



 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:

  If one were to produce - lets say - a 10ppm solution then that would be
 10mg of silver per 1 litre of water.  Now if one were taking say 30ml a day
 then one would have to divide one into tuther resulting in a miniscule
 intake of silver per day...Yes/No?  Someone else can do the math, I'm a
 dummy.

 And I agree, appropriately produced EIS/CS will not result in coloured
 martians, ignoring for the moment that there is not one case of Argyria to
 be found as a result of ingestion/application/consumption of suitable
 quantities of appropriately produced solution.  As for the consumption of 20
 litres a day...I won't even go there as all bets would be off.

 N.

 --
 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:35:41 -0800
 Subject: Re: CSCS: Silver in fruits,veggies etc.
 From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com


 I remember approximating there being 3 grams of silver in my CS generator
 cathode.  After maybe 20 gallons of CS, there is still most of it there.

 100mg a day of silver from food would only take a month to hit 3 grams of
 intake.  If this intake measure were true, that would be an argument for
 virtually zero risk of argyria from properly made EIS.

 ~David

 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Harold MacDonald har...@telus.netwrote:

  Under ordinary circumstances,daily consumption of fruits and
 vegetables would yield an intake of  approx. 50-100 mg of silver in the form
 of a trace element,as reported in 1940 by R.A.Kehoe,Ref[15.]

 What isn't taken into account is our food supply does not provide enough
 minerals, and hasn't for a long time as evidenced by these excerpts from
 :U.S. Senate Document 264: 74 th Congress,2 ND Session,1936.

 Our physical well-being is more dependent upon minerals we take into our
 systems than upon calories or vitamins,or upon precise proportions of
 starch,protein or carbohydrates we consume.

 Do you know that most of us today are suffering from certain dangerous
 diet deficiencies which cannot be remedied until depleted soils from which
 our food comes are brought into proper balance?

 *Just a few excerpts from the 74 th Congress,2ND Session,Senate Document
 No 264,1936.*
 **
 *At one time some years ago I had the full document in file downloaded
 but lost it.*
 **
 *Harold*

Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

[Dave Darrin]

Hanneke
There was nothing nasty in my response. The religion thing just keeps
building and building until it becomes overbearing.
The mind has a good deal to do with healing as can be seen  everyday. As far
as Reiki is concerned I have no knowledge of it and am not bombarded with it
daily so I wouldn't notice.
Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net wrote:

 I wonder if I would get such nasty responses if I had suggested to use
 Reiki.. pretty similar to the kind of spiritual approach Robert suggested.

 Not sure what you guys are afraid of but if you are afraid of approaching
 health and health issues other than via mechanical ways, you're missing
 something in the healing process.

 I for one believe that the mind is part of healing.. if you call that
 religion and that scares you, not sure who is having the problems here.




 At 11:12 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:

 The place for ones personal religious or spiritual belief is NOT the
 public domain.

 Follow the guidelines, show due consideration for others beliefs and
 philosophies, and show such support in private, after all, it is an
 individuals personal philosophy and it should remain as such, hence one will
 avoid any flak which is bound to be incoming.  Some take religion and/or
 spirituallity quite serious, and that's a double edged sword, so it would be
 better to keep it private and avoid inciting such responses from those who
 hold a different philosophy.

 You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine, keep that in mind and
 everything'll be sweetsay n'more, say n'more.

 N.

  From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSDave Darrin remove from list
  Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:59:03 -0400
 
  Oh, get a GRIP!
 
  The mean spiritness being shown is way more offensive than an
  innocuous affirmation for healing.
 
  PC really sucks!
 
  Chuck
  WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are
  whispering when you are not.
 
 
  On 10/3/2010 12:52:37 AM, Neville Munn (one.red...@hotmail.com) wrote:
   Quote:
   Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you
 want to on his incision if it is for his highest good. I
   infuse
   God's Divine Love into this situation end quote.
  
   Well if that don't
   smack of religion I dunno what does slapping forehead...? If he
 meant Ra
   the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca, Mayan or Aztec human
   sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and it probly
   wouldn't have been so offensive.
  
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Re: CSremove from list// Robert

[Dave Darrin]

Lois
Those people don't want off the list--They are simply protesting my post.
Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:53 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:

  In a message dated 10/2/2010 2:25:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 zebulan5...@yahoo.com writes:

   Please take me off this list.  Thank you.

 Robert Booth



  *Robert, please reconsider. There are rude, unfeeling people in this
 world. It is obvious that you are not one of them. The rude  unfeeling will
 rot from inside. Just send them a blessing  let it go... Lois*

Re: CSremove from list

[Dave Darrin]

Dee
Thank you for the insight.
The biggest Con man on earth is the Pope and followed by millions who don't
know better( sheep?)
Enough said on this subject. Lets just drop it like a hot potato.
Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 But it could be offensive to those who don't subscribe to the god theory
 and see it as a mighty con by control freaks.  However, I'm sure it was
 kindly meant by the poster.  dee


 On 2 Oct 2010, at 20:56, needling around wrote:

  As one who has spent years studying it, I would hardly call what was
 offered religion and I, personally, did not find it offensive... merely a
 kindness offered from one list member to another.
  Rev. PT
  - Original Message -
  From: Dave Darrin
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:26 PM
  Subject: Re: CSremove from list
 
  Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list.
  By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe you.
  Dave
 
  On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Please take me off this list.  Thank you.
 
  Robert Booth
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list--Let's speak health now...

[Dave Darrin]

Carol
You are absolutely right about the purpose of this list only where is the
Hate you refer to? Or the Rage???
If my posting reflected hate in your mind it might be said you hate doctors
and that would offend them.
It doesn't take much to offend some people.
Dave


On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:13 AM, carolG cgiam...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Isn't this list about health and not hate or rage? I got some hate mail
 behind the scenes few weeks back from two ladies.  I won't name them here.

 Let's get on with the great list Mike created! Let's move forward!! No
 response necessary.  Looking for more knowledge to learn from and keep me
 from doctor's hands and his deep pockets.  I don't actually have a doctor.

 carol

Re: CSremove from list

[Dave Darrin]

MA
I'm sure you are right as far as you understand, however she also addressed
my concerns.
Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:43 AM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 Dave -- I'm pretty sure that it was Robert's post that Dee thought was
 *meant kindly* -- not yours.
 MA

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 *From:* Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com

 Dee
 Thank you for the insight.
 The biggest Con man on earth is the Pope and followed by millions who don't
 know better( sheep?)
 Enough said on this subject. Lets just drop it like a hot potato.
 Dave

 On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 But it could be offensive to those who don't subscribe to the god theory
 and see it as a mighty con by control freaks.  However, I'm sure it was
 kindly meant by the poster.  dee


 On 2 Oct 2010, at 20:56, needling around wrote:

  As one who has spent years studying it, I would hardly call what was
 offered religion and I, personally, did not find it offensive... merely a
 kindness offered from one list member to another.
  Rev. PT
  - Original Message -
  From: Dave Darrin
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:26 PM
  Subject: Re: CSremove from list
 
  Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list.
  By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe you.
  Dave
 
  On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Please take me off this list.  Thank you.
 
  Robert Booth
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

[Dave Darrin]

Malcom
If that's your opinion you are entitled to it, My opinion is I stated a
fact.
Dave

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote:

 Attacking someone's spiritual offering as obscene bullshit qualifies
 as nasty, Dave.

 On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 08:12 -0700, Dave Darrin wrote:
  Hanneke
  There was nothing nasty in my response. The religion thing just keeps
  building and building until it becomes overbearing.
  The mind has a good deal to do with healing as can be seen  everyday.
  As far as Reiki is concerned I have no knowledge of it and am not
  bombarded with it daily so I wouldn't notice.
  Dave
 
  On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net
  wrote:
  I wonder if I would get such nasty responses if I had
  suggested to use Reiki.. pretty similar to the kind of
  spiritual approach Robert suggested.
 
  Not sure what you guys are afraid of but if you are afraid of
  approaching health and health issues other than via mechanical
  ways, you're missing something in the healing process.
 
  I for one believe that the mind is part of healing.. if you
  call that religion and that scares you, not sure who is having
  the problems here.
 
 
 
 
 
  At 11:12 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:
  The place for ones personal religious or spiritual
  belief is NOT the public domain.
 
  Follow the guidelines, show due consideration for
  others beliefs and philosophies, and show such support
  in private, after all, it is an individuals personal
  philosophy and it should remain as such, hence one
  will avoid any flak which is bound to be incoming.
   Some take religion and/or spirituallity quite
  serious, and that's a double edged sword, so it would
  be better to keep it private and avoid inciting such
  responses from those who hold a different philosophy.
 
  You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine, keep
  that in mind and everything'll be sweetsay n'more,
  say n'more.
 
  N.
 
   From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: RE: CSDave Darrin remove from list
   Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:59:03 -0400
  
   Oh, get a GRIP!
  
   The mean spiritness being shown is way more
  offensive than an
   innocuous affirmation for healing.
  
   PC really sucks!
  
   Chuck
   WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you
  think you are
   whispering when you are not.
  
  
   On 10/3/2010 12:52:37 AM, Neville Munn
  (one.red...@hotmail.com) wrote:
Quote:
Use the power of thought and hands of God and
  place what ever you want to on his incision if it is
  for his highest good. I
infuse
God's Divine Love into this situation end quote.
   
Well if that don't
smack of religion I dunno what does slapping
  forehead...? If he meant Ra
the sun god, the sacred cow of India, or Inca,
  Mayan or Aztec human
sacrifice, then he should have made that clear and
  it probly
wouldn't have been so offensive.
   
Some reserve the right to NOT subscribe to such
  ideals, and that r
  
  
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Re: CSOn a personal note............

[Dave Darrin]

I consider that a bunch of obscene bull shit.
Keep it to your self, except  place whatever you want to on his incision
Dave

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you  want toon 
 his incision  if  it is for his highest good.  I infuse God's Divine
 Love into this situation  Thank You , Thank You, Thank You.
  Robert
 --- On *Sat, 10/2/10, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net* wrote:


 From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net

 Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 10:48 AM


  Depends what method they're using - keyhole or opening the rib cage - do
 you know? (As to the size of the wound)

 Highly unlikely the wound will be uncovered to allow anyone other than in
 actual surgery to put anything on it at all - wait til you get him home and
 then use it, internally  externally. If you had hoped for this to be used
 in surgery it is very unlikely - unless he is allergic they usually still
 use Betadine or some Iodine based preparations.

 Prayer from us here too

 xxx
 Jane   (RN)

 http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
 ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

 - Original Message -
 *From:* needling 
 aroundhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 *To:* 
 silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:37 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSOn a personal note

 Hi Lois,
 Thank you for this link.  What a wonderful concept.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 *From:* 
 zzekel...@aol.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zzekel...@aol.com
 *To:* 
 silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:08 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSOn a personal note

 *MA, you and your husband are in our prayers. Going to light a candle--
 Lois*
 Light A Candle - Birthday candles, Virtual candles, Votive candles,
 Memorial c http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

 My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have
 open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac
 myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery,
 and
 will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried

 about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for
 infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that
 enough?
 I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how
 the
 hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision
 itself,
 so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone

 will be greatly appreciated.
 MA


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Re: CSremove from list

[Dave Darrin]

Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list.
By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe you.
Dave

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Please take me off this list.  Thank you.

 Robert Booth

Re: CSOn a personal note............

[Dave Darrin]

Gladly!
Dave

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.comwrote:

 If you wish to send obscenities on the net reap the repercussion.

 --- On *Sat, 10/2/10, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 1:05 PM


 I consider that a bunch of obscene bull shit.
 Keep it to your self, except  place whatever you want to on his incision
 Dave

 On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Robert L. Booth 
 zebulan5...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zebulan5...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you  want
 to on his incision  if  it is for his highest good.  I infuse God's
 Divine Love into this situation  Thank You , Thank You, Thank You.
  Robert
 --- On *Sat, 10/2/10, Jane MacRoss 
 highfie...@internode.on.nethttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=highfie...@internode.on.net
 * wrote:


 From: Jane MacRoss 
 highfie...@internode.on.nethttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=highfie...@internode.on.net


 Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
 To: 
 silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
 Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 10:48 AM


  Depends what method they're using - keyhole or opening the rib cage - do
 you know? (As to the size of the wound)

 Highly unlikely the wound will be uncovered to allow anyone other than in
 actual surgery to put anything on it at all - wait til you get him home and
 then use it, internally  externally. If you had hoped for this to be used
 in surgery it is very unlikely - unless he is allergic they usually still
 use Betadine or some Iodine based preparations.

 Prayer from us here too

 xxx
 Jane   (RN)

 http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
 ~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

 - Original Message -
 *From:* needling 
 aroundhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 *To:* 
 silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:37 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSOn a personal note

 Hi Lois,
 Thank you for this link.  What a wonderful concept.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 *From:* 
 zzekel...@aol.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zzekel...@aol.com
 *To:* 
 silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:08 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSOn a personal note

 *MA, you and your husband are in our prayers. Going to light a candle--
 Lois*
 Light A Candle - Birthday candles, Virtual candles, Votive candles,
 Memorial c http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

 My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have
 open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac
 myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery,
 and
 will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried

 about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for
 infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that
 enough?
 I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how
 the
 hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision
 itself,
 so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone

 will be greatly appreciated.
 MA


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Re: CSDave Darrin remove from list

[Dave Darrin]

Not any particular religion but religion never the less. Get real!
Dave

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote:

 No doubt I'll regret this but just so you know, Dave what Robert said was
 in no way religious...it was spiritual. Had he invoked the name of a church
 or some church doctrine oe was trying to force his views on you then you
 could consider that religious. You might want to learn the difference.

 Besides, from what I can tell Robert was not addressing his comment to you.

 Doesn't Mike also have some sort of rule about being civil?

 Sandy

 --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:


 Now maybe you understand why Mike says to keep religion off the list.
 By the way take me off this list doesn't unsubscribe
  you.
 Dave













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Re: CS[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

[Dave Darrin]

  Jan
  The fast mode just means no polarity switching. Without stirring it will
make mud if you leave it on and turned up to high. I always use standard
mode and set mine to seven which they tell me will make 20 ppm. I never have
a color or settleing out with even that high of a ppm. I also use a one
gallon sun tea jar as a brewing vessel, it has a spigot on the side to
decant the product. You can cut slots in the lid to keep your electrodes
spaced right and the same for each batch.
Dave

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Costumes costu...@dnet.net wrote:

  So I could go ahead and give that water (w particles on bottom of jar) to
 SenSee, my EPM horse ??  I would want to filter it for her, however !!
 The first 3 quarts (from the same gallon of DW) had the silver particles on
 the bottom, and they did look to me like they'd fallen off the electrodes
 ... I had it set at 4, and I also had the generator set to fast mode.

 When I did the 4th quart (from that same gallon of DW) I set it on 3, and
 also put it on standard speed -- and that 4th quart did not have the large
 particles ... but it did have what looked like fine silver dust on the
 bottom, but only a small amount about a half inch in diameter on the bottom
 of the jar.  The water is steamed ... which Don was asking about ... and I
 still have to figure out how to change the polarity of the electrodes ...
 Will try to work that out with my next gallon of DW    Im also going to
 try cleaning the electrodes w paper towel, which might not do as much damage
 to the surface of the electrodes -- meaning that such large particles would
 be less likely to sheer off  Oh, and will try cleaning the jars like you
 said ... I had not cleaned them.  So you would not scrub the jars out w soap
 and water 
  jan
  --
  Hi Jan.  Usually when there is silver laying at the bottom of the jar,
 that is silver that scintered off the silver bars too fast, and is therefore
 too large-particle to remain suspended in the distilled water.  It could
 have been aided by some kind of film on the interior of the jar, or
 something less than perfect in the distilled water.

 So -- first, I would empty that batch of silver (save it for topical use).
 Wipe the canning jar out with a clean paper towel, rinse with distilled
 water a couple of times, wipe with paper towel again.

 Then -- set the unit up again and set the dial on 3 instead of 4.  See if
 you get better results.  If not, repeat the cleaning process of the jar --
 sometimes it takes awhile to get any films off of the glass.  If the third
 batch still has a lot of silver particles, get another gallon of distilled
 water -- try a gallon from Walgreen.  If after all of that you're still
 getting a layer of silver, call Synergenesis and check with them.  It is
 possible that there's some kind of electrical glitch in the generator -- but
 I would exhaust the other possibilities first.  Usually it's the container
 or the water.
 MA
 P.S.  There's nothing wrong with the clear colloid in the top 3/4 of the
 jar.  You can carefully pour that off and use it orally if you prefer.

  --
 *From:* Costumes costu...@dnet.net
 *To:* equine_solutions_netw...@yahoogroups.com
 *Cc:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Mon, September 27, 2010 9:59:28 PM
 *Subject:* CS[Equine_Solutions_Network] Silver particles on bottom of jar

 Hey,
 Ive started brewing my CS ... using my new wishgranted Master generator ...
 set on 4 ... distilled water from Walmart, as suggested by wishgranted ...
 and glass canning jars.  Each jar that Ive brewed has a layer of silver
 particles laying on the bottom of the jar.  What's up with that ???

 The generator is behaving just like the intstructions said it would, w/o
 any issues ... Green light running all the time and cutting off when done
 ... red test light coming off and on intermittently 
 jan

Re: CSCS and Lymes Disease

[Dave Darrin]

You might have to spell it correctly though. ( Lyme) no s.
Dave

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:49 AM, j petras jpetras...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The silver list ,(Google will bring it up) has archives...tons of
 information from those who
 want to know about Lymes. I do not have direct knowledge of its' treatment
 myself.

 I hope this helps.

 John

 --- On *Mon, 9/20/10, Ron Minnick shadowcreekf...@hotmail.com* wrote:


 From: Ron Minnick shadowcreekf...@hotmail.com
 Subject: CSCS and Lymes Disease
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Monday, September 20, 2010, 11:24 AM


 Hi, my name is Doreen and I am looking for info on treating Lymes disease
 with CS..thank you in advance

Re: CSWater Vortex Magnetizer: COMMENT

[Dave Darrin]

I got two of them about the same thing-A little different.
Dave

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.comwrote:

 About one our ago I sent an email referencing our experiences
 with water structuring.  Due to my faulty memory, I
 failed to include some simple construction details which enable the
 DIY individual to AVOID COMPLETELY, the expense
 and effort of obtaining a commercial version of the double-female
 coupling for connecting the two bottles together.
 All that is required is to obtain two of the plastic tops
 from any two liter drink bottles and secure them (top-to-top)
 together by gluing or plastic weldingnext, drill a 3/8 to 1/2 inch
 hole (your choice) through both, simultaneously.  Dress the hole
 if desired.by lightly sanding with sandpaper wrapped around a
 pencil.  You now have a serviceable connector for,
 essentially, no additional cost.  Some commercial connections cost as
 much as $35...and do not offer any, better results
 than does this little home-made innovation.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
 p.s. Earlier I attempted to send a similar email to this one...it
 bounced.  I hope to have better luckthis time.


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Re: CSRectal CS

[Dave Darrin]

David
One such application 10 years ago stopped diarrhoea,rid me of haemorrhoids
and they have not returned.
Dave

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:59 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 I just saw a you tube video with a guy saying he gets the best results with
 people using rectal CS.  He said he was giving 25-30ml rectally.

 Any experience with that?  I am just so interested in all the ways that
 might make CS better (H2O2, cayenne, rectal, etc.).

 Thanks,
 ~David

Re: CSRectal CS

[Dave Darrin]

PT
  It was performed with a turkey baster lubricated with CS gel. Probably
about an oz. of 20 ppm. Stopped stomach cramps too.
Didn't cause any other problems.
Dave


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:02 AM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  Hi Dave,
 Was it performed as an enema or a high colonic?
 Thanks.
 PT

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 29, 2010 10:56 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSRectal CS

 David
 One such application 10 years ago stopped diarrhoea,rid me of haemorrhoids
 and they have not returned.
 Dave

 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:59 PM, David AuBuchon 
 aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 I just saw a you tube video with a guy saying he gets the best results
 with people using rectal CS.  He said he was giving 25-30ml rectally.

 Any experience with that?  I am just so interested in all the ways that
 might make CS better (H2O2, cayenne, rectal, etc.).

 Thanks,
 ~David