Re: CSArthritis
Hi Marshall, Please refresh my memory. What's CMO? Léna On May 29, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Marshall wrote: I had lyme disease about 25 years ago and was on crutches before getting rid of it. I completely cured the arthritis with CMO. Marshall On 5/28/2012 3:44 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Asif, I've got Lyme disease, which, of course, manifests symptoms of arthritis. Whenever I eat things that cause sensitivities (like nightshade or citrus) I find that Alka-Seltzer Gold (can be found at amazon) can neutralize the acidity that contributed to the pain. Topically, I apply DMSO, quickly followed by shea butter or aloe (DMSO is very drying to the skin) and it's pretty impressive at reducing pain in the area. Another good roll-on (I get the bottles from eBay, is Brokk's mix, which is 75% CS, 15% glycerine, and 10% DMSO. I keep it handy, even in a perfume-sized roll-on in my purse and apply to painful joints. It really helps. One particular pinkie finger, however, didn't respond much to these treatments, so I started taking tart cherry, which is helpful to gout, and that seemed to resolve that pain. Also, personal experience: Reiki is wonderful for melting away pain. See if you can find a practitioner, or even become attuned to Reiki so you can practice it yourself. It's warm, relaxing, helps circulation, somehow reduces inflammation, and has made my recovery SO much more comfortable. Be well, Léna On May 28, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Asif Nathekar wrote: Hi silver list, I wonder if you you guys have any good treatments for arthritis in the joints. Knees and fingers especially. The person has been taking around 10ml of 15ppm silver once a day and reports its helps. The person is being put on increased painkillers for this condition which has its own side effects . So I seek the wisdom of the usually very helpful people here. Thank you. Peace to all. Asif. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Anti-inflammatory Lemonde
Hi Harold, This sounds great! Would xylitol work (for those who hate stevia)? Be well, Léna On May 29, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Harold wrote: Easy to make and good to take. Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade: 1 cup of fresh squeezed lemon juice: (4 -6 lemons) 4-6 cups of clean water (to taste) 1 tsp of ground turmeric 1 tsp of cinnamon Pinch of Himalayan salt 1/2 tsp of liquid stevia (or to taste) Optional: 1 tsp ground/fresh ginger Harold
Re: CSArthritis
Hi Asif, I've got Lyme disease, which, of course, manifests symptoms of arthritis. Whenever I eat things that cause sensitivities (like nightshade or citrus) I find that Alka-Seltzer Gold (can be found at amazon) can neutralize the acidity that contributed to the pain. Topically, I apply DMSO, quickly followed by shea butter or aloe (DMSO is very drying to the skin) and it's pretty impressive at reducing pain in the area. Another good roll-on (I get the bottles from eBay, is Brokk's mix, which is 75% CS, 15% glycerine, and 10% DMSO. I keep it handy, even in a perfume-sized roll-on in my purse and apply to painful joints. It really helps. One particular pinkie finger, however, didn't respond much to these treatments, so I started taking tart cherry, which is helpful to gout, and that seemed to resolve that pain. Also, personal experience: Reiki is wonderful for melting away pain. See if you can find a practitioner, or even become attuned to Reiki so you can practice it yourself. It's warm, relaxing, helps circulation, somehow reduces inflammation, and has made my recovery SO much more comfortable. Be well, Léna On May 28, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Asif Nathekar wrote: Hi silver list, I wonder if you you guys have any good treatments for arthritis in the joints. Knees and fingers especially. The person has been taking around 10ml of 15ppm silver once a day and reports its helps. The person is being put on increased painkillers for this condition which has its own side effects . So I seek the wisdom of the usually very helpful people here. Thank you. Peace to all. Asif. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp needed for pregnant relative
I agree with PT! Biofeedback or anything that contributes to the mind's mastery over the body and pain (like meditation or Reiki) is a tremendous gift for healing. Also, mastering any of these techniques will be a great asset during actual childbirth, nursing and mothering afterward. Be well, Léna On May 27, 2012, at 12:02 PM, PTFerrance wrote: Probably the best form of migraine control can be found with Biofeedback. I have known people with serious migraine issues who managed the condition successfully this way. PT From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHelp needed for pregnant relative If she tries it make sure it is the PA free form. PT From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:42 AM To: cs Subject: CSHelp needed for pregnant relative Hi all, I have a niece who is about 5 months pregnant who has migraine's. She has tried everything out there except herbs. Has anyone had any experience with Butter Burr? Can a she being pregnant take this or should she wait till after the baby comes? Thanks in advance Deb No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5025 - Release Date: 05/27/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5025 - Release Date: 05/27/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5025 - Release Date: 05/27/12
Re: CSour Flower Essence conversation
From what I've been hearing, google is a Big Brother now: for better or worse, who knows? L On May 24, 2012, at 12:02 AM, Renee wrote: I was just searching around and for fun thought I’d put in texas native flower essences to see what other makers there might be out there—and discovered that our conversation is already on google! I had no idea google had access to the silver list archives. Samala, Renee
Re: CSShea Butter-DMSO Creme
Memory's sketchy, facts uncertain: just flying by the seat of my pants! =) L On May 22, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Melly Bag wrote: Hi Lena, I do see your very good point that DMSO might not carry it to the BBB due to its weight. You have good memory, i forgot all about that. Melly
Re: CSQuick help needed please!
Hi Marshall, I'm trying to understand the dynamic of this, as I've had trouble mixing some substances in the past. I've made a CS gel from a gel kit offered by the Silver Puppy folks. Does the b.s. alkalinity act as an emulsifier? Presently, my challenge is this: I like to make a creme of shea butter and DMSO, which works really well on areas of pain where straight DMSO would too easily dry the skin. I stir them together to create ever- smaller pockets of DMSO within the softened shea butter, but it's still pretty inconsistent, as oil and 'water' don't mix. Do you have any suggestions for making this creme more consistent without limiting the effectiveness of either ingredient? Thanks! Be well, Léna On May 21, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Marshall wrote: Mix them together to form a gel. Use immediately. If you plan on mixing and not using for a day or two, add sufficient baking soda to bring pH to around 7, or the silver will aggregate rather quickly. Marshall On 5/21/2012 3:07 PM, Alan Jones wrote: Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately? -Alan On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal silver. The colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into stem cells so healing can take place rapidly and without scarring, and the aloe supplies nutrients so tissue can survive even without any blood for hours or days. Marshall -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSSilver PH
Hi Marshall, I think this whole myth began when some baking POWDERS had alumina sulfate. Be well, Léna On May 21, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Marshall wrote: Bicarbonate of soda is a chemical, and a very cheap one at that. It is NaHCO3. If it contains anything else, it is mislabeled and subject to prosecution by the FDA. I don't know where this rumor came from that it would contain anything else, certainly not alumina sulfate which would be an expensive ingredient that would ruin the product. The test for aluminum sulfate is to mix it with sodium hydroxide, sodium carbonate, or sodium bi-carbonate. If aluminum sulfate is there it forms a white precipitate and produces CO2. So, if it is there, all you have to do it mix it with water, and it will foam producing carbon dioxide, and a white precipitate forms. I have mixed AH with water many times and no CO2 or precipitate is formed, thus there is no aluminum sulfate in there. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_sodium_bicarbonate_or_baking_soda_contain_aluminum Marshall On 5/21/2012 3:38 PM, Alan Jones wrote: do you have any evidence to support this? -Alan On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote: Yikes! on that Arm Hammer bicarb stuff!! Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please The Arm Hammer has alumina sulphate in it, no matter WHAT they say on the package. I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a supermarket or drug store if it's me. T -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSQuick help needed please!
Hi PT, That's a great suggestion! Would you use granules or liquid? We incorporate lecithin granules in our daily smoothies. Thanks, Be well, Léna On May 21, 2012, at 4:46 PM, PTFerrance wrote: Hi Lena, I’m not Marshall and to be sure do not have his chemical background but if I were trying to do what you are trying to do I would try a bit of lecithin to emulsify the mixture. I’ve had good luck with this in the past. Don’t know what the shelf life would be, however. PT From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSQuick help needed please! Hi Marshall, I'm trying to understand the dynamic of this, as I've had trouble mixing some substances in the past. I've made a CS gel from a gel kit offered by the Silver Puppy folks. Does the b.s. alkalinity act as an emulsifier? Presently, my challenge is this: I like to make a creme of shea butter and DMSO, which works really well on areas of pain where straight DMSO would too easily dry the skin. I stir them together to create ever- smaller pockets of DMSO within the softened shea butter, but it's still pretty inconsistent, as oil and 'water' don't mix. Do you have any suggestions for making this creme more consistent without limiting the effectiveness of either ingredient? Thanks! Be well, Léna On May 21, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Marshall wrote: Mix them together to form a gel. Use immediately. If you plan on mixing and not using for a day or two, add sufficient baking soda to bring pH to around 7, or the silver will aggregate rather quickly. Marshall On 5/21/2012 3:07 PM, Alan Jones wrote: Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately? -Alan On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal silver. The colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into stem cells so healing can take place rapidly and without scarring, and the aloe supplies nutrients so tissue can survive even without any blood for hours or days. Marshall -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5013 - Release Date: 05/21/12
Re: CSCs-Shea Butter
Hi Melly, That's a good point, but actually DMSO can't carry just anything through the skin. There is a size limit measured in Daltons, that makes many things non-transdermal. I hope there's some techie out there who knows the Daltons of Shea butter, but my instincts tell me that fats like shea butter might be too coarse to be carried. (Only my instincts, but when I muscle tested, it tested as good for my use) If it did pass the bbb, it would probably be a helpful thing, just like VCO is proving to be beneficial to Alzheimer brain-cells that can no longer feed off glucose, but can feed off the lipids of coconut oil. Hmmm, maybe I should HOPE that the DMSO will deliver! Be well, Léna On May 21, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Hi Lena, I saw your post on wanting to create a Shea butter - DMSO creme. Wouldn't DMSO take the shea butter to the blood stream and that DMSO also crosses blood brain barrier taking the shea butter? Did you want the shea butter in your blood stream and brain too?This is just my two cents, from understanding that DMSO crosses blood brain barrier and takes anything to the blood stream.
Re: CSQuick help needed please!
Brooks mix (75%CS, 15%glycerine,10%DMSO) has made my hiking blisters disappear. Works well on burns, too. Be well, Léna On May 20, 2012, at 1:49 PM, sol wrote: CS sol Lisa wrote: My 6yr old son just came back from a T-ball game and has blisters on the top of his ears…sunburn obviously. What can I put on them to take care of them Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuick help needed please!
Actually, coconut oil is really good. Maybe after you've treated with whatever liquid you put on, you can apply the coconut oil to keep things soft and help skin heal. L On May 20, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Lisa wrote: Should I just give him a paper towel of CS and make him elfin ear caps to keep them in place or something like that? I've used some CS and DMSO dabbing with a Q-tipbut he won't let me do that for very much longer. I was also going to use some comfrey, lavender oil and coconut oil. Should I wait on those and just use the CS? Thank you SO much for a quick response :o) -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSQuick help needed please! CS sol Lisa wrote: My 6yr old son just came back from a T-ball game and has blisters on the top of his ears.sunburn obviously. What can I put on them to take care of them Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSodd situation
I once had a batch go brownish in a plastic container, and not wanting to waste it, kept it for cleaning, like counter-wipes, etc. If in doubt, just don't use it on or in your person, that's all. Also, I once decanted my CS into what must have been a lead-crystal decanter. The CS turned a strong yellow. I threw that out, fearing that the lead in the crystal would be harmful. L On May 17, 2012, at 12:02 AM, Neville Munn wrote: Brown??? It shouldn't go brown. Brown is something I would be looking further into. That container may not be suitable? Maybe it's developed more particulate silver? Probly still good to use, just may be higher in particulate content. When I go away I just use one of those clear plastic bottles you buy water in. I put it in the boot of the car, or on the backseat somewhere while travelling. Not in direct sunlight, but it's still exposed to much more sunlight than it would be in a cupboard in the kitchen, but it never goes 'brown?'. N. Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 18:36:45 -0700 From: ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSodd situation Hi, I was wondering if someone can help? About 6 weeks ago I made some CS to take with me on a trip. I made it with a silver puppy and it was perfectly clear and seemed potent. I put it in a Rubbermaid plastic water container and carried it with me. After about 3 weeks on the road it turned a brownish color. Can anyone tell me why this happened and if it is still good to use? Thanks. PT
Re: CSNegative Energy
Hi Tara, Your mention of Mt. Shasta got my attention, as I've felt its inexplicable power and have had some experiences there I wouldn't dare share (they'd strain others' credulity). Do you know of a source for Mt. Shasta B/G algae? Be well, Léna On May 13, 2012, at 8:33 AM, 123 456 wrote: Magnatite only occurs (as far as I know) in volcanic areas of the planet. Look up John Milewski's sites and you will quickly se my interest in this mineral. I have seen some very amazing elements forming in the tight crevice's of this stone. i am firmly convinced that it is the magnatite that attracts or forms the ormus that is then taken up by teh B/G algae that grows naturally in that high lake on Mt Shasta. It has teh ability to unlock one's own stem cells aparently. That was from a study done in NZ about 25 or 30 years ago, still not commonly known in NA. I will refrain from any product recommendations but I've been eating it for the past 26 years and I'm holding up not too badly. Tara On 5/12/12, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes! That wonderful book Aboriginal Men of High Degree writes that they carried obsidian which is found all over the ground in parts of central Australia - as well as quartz crystal - / black and white. Is magnatite the same as haematite? Jane From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com I think the apache tear works because it has come through the fire of the ancient volcano and melted the matrix(?) or quartz, well it is glass after all) and it has somehow trapped the ormus element into it. If anyone accepts that there is something called ormus than that's as good a theory as any I have ever heard. The magnatite might be present in the apache tear as well as the denser from of obsidian. Do we have any geologists here on this group? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
Hi Renee, I've noticed when practicing hypnotherapy, that when clients visualized going through a door into a garden, they'd often find a particular flower of extra radiance and appeal. When we'd look it up, it would often be the exact medical or homeopathic plant needed. The subconscious knows so much! Be well, Léna On May 13, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Renee wrote: And me. :) I've made just over 100 different essences from the native texas flowers. I just love essences. They are indeed very powerful, yet gentle. There are actually makers from all over the world now. A very good one is in Australia. The Alaska maker is very good. Perelandra has excellent ones. Well, in fact--all essences are wonderful. And simple to make your own. If you are drawn to certain flowers, then those flowers have something for you. An essence from them could be exactly what a person needs. Samala, Renee -Original Message- Yup, tose flower remedys ertainly do work. Did anyone know that there are several other flower essences out there besides just the Bach? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHappy Mother's Day!
Hi Groups, I've been thinking a lot about all the heroic moms I've met/read in these groups, who, despite their own illness have fought so hard to help their kids with Lyme. This, to me is the pinnacle of devotion. Love just doesn't get any more proven than that. I don't know how you do it, but want to honor you for it today. May your burdens grow lighter, your joys grow deeper, and may the sweet song of motherhood fill your heart with moments of well-earned peace. Love, Léna.
Re: CSNegative Energy
Having grown up enduring the negativity of a borderline personality- disordered relative, I was keenly aware of psychic attack. In my travels, I learned a couple useful things. Whether they are mere suggestion or something working on levels of energy as yet understood, they brought me comfort, without arousing any combativeness in my own self (as that's just a subtle contagion of negativity too) The first is to say, in your mind, when feeling personally attacked: 'I return this negativity to its source with Love and ask it harm no one along its way' The second, (if the first doesn't do enough) is simply, 'This shall not abide.' A variant of this is, 'I'm not having this.' And the third, is to carry a piece of Apache's Tear stone (a form of obsidian) on your person. It seems to help one separate others' negativity from one's own. Many have observed this to help: dunno why. Be well, Léna On May 12, 2012, at 3:35 AM, Mike Monett wrote: There has been discussion of non-physical healing methods recently. Some of these can be quite effective if used properly. Positive energy is the key. But how do you deal with negative energy? The first step is to recognize it, and learn how to return it back to where it came from. This is a response to a private email from a friend who has been having problems with attacks. This is definitely on topic in a forum that deals with healing. I hope it can help others. I start without preamble. My old girlfriend was a homeopath. Some of the stuff she gave me really knocked me out. She was the one I bought the two SE-5's for. She really helped me when I was travelling on business and was full of pain. They work. I wanted her to marry me. She said she could not. She knew she was going to die. And so went the most amazing woman I have ever known. She taught me most of what I know about the spiritual planes. I have had some absolutely mind-boggling experiences thanks to her. These tell me eventually all this will come to an end and I will gain my full health back. On a different plane. The first thing I will do is look her up and see if I can find her and thank her. But she will probably be on a different plane. That's ok. Eventually I will get there also. Find a way to compliment those who try to slap you down. Even thanking them for spelling your name right. That is a terrible insult to them. They cannot respond to that kind of compliment. You need to overcome the attack and win. This is absolutely necessary. Otherwise the wounds go deep and start to affect other things. Your health for example. Never let idiots rule. Stop them cold, but in a way they cannot respond. Then you turn their energy against themself. They will think twice or thrice before attacking you again. Make it clear they have no chance against you. There are many ways to do it. I'm sure you will do fine. But don't get dragged into a repeated exchange. Terminate trolls quickly. Ignore them. Anything they say will quickly fade in everyone's mind. You will gain satisfaction of having the strength to remain quiet. They will gain the frustration of not being able to provoke you. This is pretty evil stuff, but there is no way to be nice to some people. You have to put them in their place, or suffer the consequences yourself. Always return negative energy back to the source where it came from. It doesn't matter if you mess up the first couple of times. The important thing is to try. Eventually you will get it right, and they won't even know what happened. But don't let the negative energy sit. You have to get rid of it. But not to some innocent victim. Back to the source. And the softer and gentler you can do it, the more powerful it is. Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations
Sure! if you're into excito-toxins. Great stuff. It's negative track record is accumulating. As for the ads trying to shill high-frutose corn syrup as being identical to sugar, that the body recognizes no difference, puleeze! HFC creates (within the body) an even greater craving for more of itself than sugar. Makes you want another and another and another diet soda. Has little to do with thirst. ;) Léna On May 12, 2012, at 8:51 AM, devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sure Splenda is acceptable too. Sent via my Samsung Replenish from Boost Mobile Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: PS I suppose GM is safe too? - Original Message - From: Jane MacRoss To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: Re: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations More off topic stuff (Leo I can't get the flying video to work - it must have flown) This amazed me - I was sure that microwaved foods were harmful - is this a butter/margarine debate - or opal/diamond debate / some commercial interest to bend the reality waves again for us? http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2006/03/23/1597903.htm I bet if I put this on facebook all 5,000 of my friends would tell me otherwise! They all argue with whatever I write anyway. Ah the joys of mother and grandmotherhood! Jane - Original Message - From: leo To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations Dear Friends In 1980 I briefly worked with botanist Bargyla Rateaver PhD, a notorious long-time organic-gardening professor for U.California. At the time Dr. Rateaver occasionally published on dangers to DNA posed by microwave cooking. As I knew something about nutrition, I wanted to know all about this issue. I was so fortunate to be able to directly and leisurely view this beloved professor's personal collection of research data on the issue. And so at that time I quickly learned... There is no argument that microwave cooking damages cells of many foods. But what I learned is that all the available reports on the topic which Dr. B had collected concerning hazards of microwaved food indicated the damage to biological cells was identical to that long reported with conventional cooking methods... And I learned it's not so easy to discuss the issue. __ Anyway- re the discovery of water crystals - Such beautiful pictures! So imaginative. There must be scores of photographers making images of the phenomenon. But that is apparently not the case. Who can find any independent verification for the phenomena? Not I. What I have found is that this pretty book is a product of Transcendental Meditation interests. As I am told is the case with the film What the BLEEP Do We Know which covers similar terrain. Otoh I absolutely *3* this one TM film: David Wants to Fly - about David Lynch. http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-flyLove the meditators at their flying academy Did I notice that all TM flyers seem to be v.young, athletic white males... very occasionally overseen by older Indian male functionaries? Odd.) [btw,...another magnitude of meditation can be found in Crazy Wisdom http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/crazy_wisdom_the_jack_kerouac_school_of_disembodied_poetics ] Leo, Pasadena Hi Jane, For a long time, convenience had made me turn a blind eye to much of =20 what I've read about negative effects of microwave on food. Then I read The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a =20 scientist who became fascinated by the structures of ice crystals =20 after varying factors were used on water (types of music, words taped =20= to container, micro-wave, etc.). He did a small, scientific paper =20 about his observations and it that went viral, then was republished =20 for the general public. Just seeing the deformed structure of micro-=20 waved water has made me finally use it rarely. I simply didn't want =20 that sort of ugly chaos in the water of my body. It also made me rethink the studies done years ago of plants leaning =20 toward or cringing from different types of music, language, etc. It =20 might not have been the plants responding at all, but rather, the =20 water within the plants. Check it out! Be well, L=E9na No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4992 - Release Date: 05/11/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4992 - Release Date: 05/11/12-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives:
Re: CSWater Crystals
I'll bet his publisher would forward your query. It's a good one.
Be well,
Léna
On May 12, 2012, at 9:11 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 5/11/2012 8:41:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hilar...@gmail.com
writes:
The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto,
I have his books. One with the CD's Water Crystal Healing With
music images to Restor your Well-Being I even got 3 used copies
for my kids I play the CD's every once in awhile to enjoy
meditate.{ Being mostly water of a larger size,my old body loves
the CD's.. :-) :-) }
I wonder what the crystals would do if you added CS {EIS} to the
water ??? Wish I knew Mr. Emoto's address --I could ask him to
experiment.. Lois
Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
I gave up on the ABPA A2 groups and FScan groups, which is why I haven't encouraged others to get these machines, as I simply wouldn't be able to talk them through their use, even though they've served me very very well.. I HAVE killed mold issues with the frequencyfoundation frx lists (not sure if they're available any more) all converted arduously from original lists designed for the Atelier Robin machines over to the FScan, My FScan generates this list of over 100 frx which are then delivered with the ABPA A2. I don't know if the ABPA A2 alone is programmed to kill molds, especially not in your environment, although I know there are people out there who have taken samples and created input-output isopathic remedies from environment to treat the environment. Haven't needed to do that myself and haven't cracked the difficult-to read manuals for a couple years. The 2 times mold issues have come up, either in the RV or in the house, I've used cold- diffused Thieves' oil, which resolved the problem. One thing comes to mind about your mention of odors. On occasion, afteer directing my husband to hook up our diesel truck to our Airstream, I've had the odor of diesel exhaust in my nose for DAYS afterward; long after the air has cleared and there really is not trace anywhere (we live in the country where few trucks go by on the road, but the persistence of the 'smell' would be as if I were at a truck-stop of idling semis.. At other times, other olfactory 'hallucinations' have plagued me (yes, sometimes smoky wood), and I wonder if damage or infection in the sinuses is responsible for the perception of odors that may not be externally present at all. I usually mist CS up my nose whenever this happens. (Resolved old chronic sinus issues this way a couple years ago) CS has been helpful in restoring my normal sense of real smells. I think it's possible that the mold/fungus issues may be more from your own internal body ecology, than external environment (judging by the extreme measures you've been taking to resolve those). Beta-carotene seems to support sinus health, and chewing raw honey- comb is excellent as it vaporises into the sinuses and lungs the propolis with which bees coat their comb to ward off molds and bacteria. Just a thought. Must get back to loading my pill-trays, just resting my back. Be well, Léna On May 11, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Mike Monett wrote: Renee, Things are not looking so good as before. After much prodding, James sent me the Yahoo Group link for the ABPA. Here it is: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/biophoton/ As you can see from the message history at the bottom of the page, the last messages were in Dec, 2011. I wrote him back that I was concerned about the lack of activity. Using that as a reference, I found another ABPA group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Advanced-Bio-Photon-Analyzer/ That one is even worse. The last message was in 2009. No wonder Lena didn't want to give any recommendations. Oh well, I may have just blown a $200 restocking fee. I wish I had known about these forums before placing the order. Chances are now slim that the device will work. But I'll give it a try anyway. I have so few options left on killing the mold spores I'll try anything if it has the slightest chance of working. Thanks for the excellent summary on other healing modalities. I'll study it later. I'm starting to get the same awful odor as a day or so ago. I can't tell where it is coming from. Getting very bad headaches. Bye for now Mike Monett Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote: I DO hope it works for you. What a blessing huh? Do let us know. If it's that good it may be worth saving up for. It's hard to distinguish which device is worth the money because there are so many, and a number of people on various lists have different machines and most all love the ones they have. So it's hard to say which one to spend money on. Samala, Renee -Original Message- This would be so nice if it works and gets rid of these headaches. I sure would like to be able to sleep longer than 3 or 4 hours, and not wake up clogged full of spores with a splitting headache and all the other crap from the toxins. Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Mike / Re: Cooking was // Re: CSRemoving Silver Tarnish
Hi Jane, For a long time, convenience had made me turn a blind eye to much of what I've read about negative effects of microwave on food. Then I read The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a scientist who became fascinated by the structures of ice crystals after varying factors were used on water (types of music, words taped to container, micro-wave, etc.). He did a small, scientific paper about his observations and it that went viral, then was republished for the general public. Just seeing the deformed structure of micro- waved water has made me finally use it rarely. I simply didn't want that sort of ugly chaos in the water of my body. It also made me rethink the studies done years ago of plants leaning toward or cringing from different types of music, language, etc. It might not have been the plants responding at all, but rather, the water within the plants. Check it out! Be well, Léna On May 10, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote: Thanks Mike - you have made me more determined to look for the article (which was way above my head) so you can check their info - well I cook however it occurs to me to do it at that moment - (cooking eggs means I melt a little butter and solidify the albumin and warm the whole item a little) but overall it's how the body responds to what and how I prepare food that is the final test! // People I know including my now retired doctor will not allow mechanical preparation of food, (high speed) nor anyone even to stir his tea - so who knows how significant vibration is - his Spiritual Master was Tibetan // NO not Lobsang LOL!!! Many thanks // Jane - Original Message - From: Mike Monett mrmon...@pstca.com I am an old electronics engineer. I have worked on high power microwave and communications equipment all my life. I used to stick my hand full of neon bulbs into the radiator feed to check the power output and look for birds nests in the waveguide. My hands are still attached and have not turned green. There is nothing truthful in the claims that microwaves can cause harmful changes to food. This is purely fear-mongering. It has no basis in fact. The only thing the microwaves can do is cause the water molecules to rotate and rub against each other. It is the same as rubbing your hands to warm them in the winter. Of course the heat will cause changes in the DNA. So does cooking on a stove. This does not matter. The things you do to food to digest it are far more severe than heating the water content in a microwave. The hydrochloric acid and pepsin in your stomach will start the breakdown process that removes the proteins and breaks them down so they can be digested and utilized in the body. Cooking in the microwave is much safer than pan frying or grilling over an open flame. There are no heterocyclic amines or polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons that form. See http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cooked-meats for more information. Of course, you knew that already, didn't you. Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
I got my ABPA A2 because it's what the frequency foundation had used effectively for delivering my frx. Was far too sick then to do the homework you may need to do now. Won't engage in recommendations. On May 9, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Mike Monett wrote: Lena, I looked at some of the other machines, but the ABPA A2 appears to be the closest to the SE-5. I trust that you looked at them also, and decided on the ABPA, so I will do the same. I will place an order for one today as soon as I get your reply. Is there anything else I should get with it? I won't need the interface adapter. I will make my own FScan 2 and it will have the correct level to drive the ABPA so I can do the same thing you are doing. The Vortex Cable looks like it is essential for the things I want to do. Fortunately it comes with the unit. Do the pads work? Is there a reason to get them? Here is the url I am looking at. Is it the correct one? http://www.biophotonanalyzer.com/products.htm Thanks, Mike Monett Mike Monett mrmon...@pstca.com wrote: Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: I no longer use electrodes. I also used electrode pads for a while, but skin envetually got irritated by the adhesives. My hand-holds were gold-plated, I believe. Haven't looked at them in almost 5 years since getting an ABPA A2 to deliver the frx. I chose to be untethered. Makes normal life easier and 24/7 treatment possible, except when unplugged on the road. Then I use the ABPA A2 (battery-driven, then) for balancing only. I plug in the FScan when we get into new campground and then go on my merry way, wherever. Léna Now we are getting somewhere. I used to own two SE-5's which are an extraordinary radionics device. I used to travel around the world on business, and dealing with customer's problems and the fatigue of travel would really sap your energy. I'd call my girlfriend in California and ask her to put me on the machine, and within minutes the pain would drain away and I would start to be rejeuvinated. The ABPA A2 looks like it works on much the same principles, but it lacks a sticky pad for diagnosis: http://www.biophotonanalyzer.com/products.htm However, they do say it has the same range as the SE-5. Not surprising. I found the results equally as powerful in Tokyo or Edinborough, or anywhere else I happened to be. I would be very interested in getting back into this technology. I have a lot more faith in this arrangement than trying to explain the pathogens are killed by direct contact with the electric field as in the Clark/Rife devices. That explanation just doesn't make any sense from an engineering point of view. But I will duplicate the FScan 2 just to get started. For some reason the print on the ABPA A2 manual is too small for me to read. How do you use the ABPA A2 to detect the frequencies that need treating? Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Hi Renée, I've used mine effectively with hair samples in the input well. I just update the sample every few months. I'd use the ABPA A2 exclusively for convenience sake, and it's got about 1000 pages of programming in it, but the complexities of Lyme have proved to require more so I use the FScan most of the time as well, with the ABPA A2 as a holding/balancing pattern for when I don't have electricity. Sometime, I may stop the FScan for a couple months' test and see what happens. After 45+ years of Lyme, I'm unwilling to lose any ground at the moment. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Renee wrote: I wish I could afford one. Reading about it--hardly anyone has a Polaroid camera anymore and they've stopped making the film, though a secondary company still makes small batches of the necessary film. So since almost no one will be able to take a Polaroid photo of themselves or their clients, how will this machine work? Most black boxes will accept spit or blood. Some say digital images, though others say a digital does not contain the necessary frequencies for the machine to 'attach' to. And--if the machine does all that it says it does, why would anyone need to attach a frequency device to run frequencies through it? It sounds like it does enough work on its own to not need external frequencies. Samala, Renee -Original Message- I looked at some of the other machines, but the ABPA A2 appears to be the closest to the SE-5. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
There's a special interface connector that enables them to work together. Thanks, Lyme IS a monstrous and complex disease and I've very lucky to have come through its tunnel so far. Patience is the main thing, followed by methodical treatment: no days off. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Renee wrote: Hey Lena. So you run both most of the time. Is the Fscan hooked up to the ABPA 2 or do you run them separate? Just curious. I’m glad you found something that works since I’ve read how bad lyme is for most people. A terrible thing. Samala, Renee After 45+ years of Lyme, I'm unwilling to lose any ground at the moment. Be well, Léna
Re: CSbacteria
There's a somewhat expensive flannel called Pacific cloth (google it) , which is impregnated with silver and draws tarnishing agents to it, rather than the silverware in which it shelters. Often cases are lined with it and travel pouches are used for jewelry. I've been wondering if saturating flannel with CS could do the same thing. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: All my silverware tarnishes - how can I stop this happening? Thanks! Jane From: Ode Coyote There is no freekin way that silver is going to tarnish without any source of Sulphur present.
Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
An ABPA A2 can only send to one subject at a time, so a thumb-drive with other photos would be counter-productive. Again, my ABPA A2 gets the frx to me using my DNA from hair sample in the input well. That's the way quantum entanglement works. I still have some Polaroid film for my camera, but prefer samples. They're more convenient and work just as well. Léna On May 9, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Renee wrote: Whew--that digital explanation sounds like a bunch of nonsense. A digital image is a digital image, whether it's in a flash drive, on a computer or in his device. The idea that his device is the only one that makes a loop just sounds phony. The way they make it sound would be like you'd have to do the photo taking to have that in the device, because otherwise, if someone across the country took their own photo and sent you the digital image then you stored that digital image into their device--how would it still 'track' the person, since it wasn't taken with the device itself? They are saying their device will take any digital image and then track it--but how is that possible if it's a still digital image taken days, weeks, months ago? So basically what they have is something that you input a digital image into, then it 'transfers' that image to that flat green (probably metal) sheet that fits into the photo well on the machine. Then supposedly it will track the person. Maybe because it's on the plate which fits? If that's the case then buying one of those little keychain things that hold x number of digital photos should work too, because they'd fit in the slot and would contain the digital image. Because the Awhatever machine did the tracking for the Polaroid, which means if a digital is input into the slot/well, then it should be able to track it too. And a cheap way of fitting an actual digital image into that slot, and not a printed out copy of the digital image (which probably wouldn't work as it wouldn't have the digital signal) then a small digital image holder should do the same thing as it will have the image actually showing while a flash drive simply contains the image but doesn't show it. I think all they are doing is showing the image inside the slot so the machine can 'see' it like it 'saw' the Polaroid. At least that's my theory. :) Samala, Renee -Original Message- There is a digital interface so you can input photos. I think the purpose for the photo is a bit different than simply running frequencies through it. They claim it works as good as the Polaroid, but it is very expensive: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbacteria, Jane's Silver Platter
I've seen Pacific Silvercloth available by the yard, so you could make to your own specs. You've just inspired me to get some cotton flannel and treat with CS to see if that might be effective; soak, allow to dry, etc., because Pacific cloth doesn't recommend laundering the cloth, so whatever is in it is only deposited there. Be well, Léna On May 9, 2012, at 2:59 PM, kag...@cox.net wrote: http://www.silverguard.com/c-7-zippered-storage-bags.aspx sells Pacific Silvercloth Zippered Bags up to 36x36. This was the first company that showed up on an Internet search for Pacific Silvercloth, mentioned by Guyot Léna. Maybe other companies have lower prices. -Original Message- From: Jane MacRoss Sent: Wednesday, 09 May, 2012 12:17 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSbacteria Thanks Debbie - my silver platter is 24 in diameter - but that would work with other things. cutlery etc. From: devorah...@yahoo.com I put mine in a plastic zip lock bag...Debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Was: CSMacular Degeneration now The Mike Monett List
Mike, Well, this thread definitely corroborates the fact that a full moon amplifies negativity in folks with pathogens. It seems every full moon, the snarkiness comes out. Pity, 'cause we're all in this together. As a long-term Lymie, I'm grateful that CS is favorably mentioned in my Lyme_and_Rife group even though you see fit to be negative about Rife here. Give us this day, our daily BREADTH! (Please note the spelling) People who are struggling to get well shouldn't put down what they haven't personally experienced. In a few months Rife definitely brought my 40+ year chronic Lyme to heel, and after a year of substantially lessening my pathogen load and also bringing on herxes of astonishing magnitude, I learned more about detoxing, found SC, and TCMs and am now about 90% back to 'normal' whatever that is. And yes, i generate my own CS and find a place for it in my 'bag of tricks'. We must have many tools that bag with something as serious and diverse as Lyme.. Not every tool is valid for every person, but let's not put any of them down out of hand. We may not all be scientists (who historically are still human and prone to bias, blindness, and ego), but many of us are courageous lab- rats, trying things on ourselves that might make the allopathic community shake its closed, and collective head. I'd expected more openness and tolerance in 'alternative' groups, so this post really disappointed me. I'll blame it on the moon and increased pathogen activity. Be well, Léna On May 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Mike Monett wrote: Was: CSMacular Degeneration now The Mike Monett List Craig Chamberlin Mon, 07 May 2012 19:44:26 -0700 Well, now that the list has reverted to the Mike Monett list, I must away. Smitty will you let me know when its over, please. Thanks, Craig Thanks for spelling my name right. So few people can do that. Your association with Nenah is well known, so it is understandable you would have a reaction to observations on the Rife claims. Did you know this is a colloidal silver list? It would seem Rife has very little to do with silver ions. There may be some other reason for supporting Rife, but I can't think of one. If you can find a counterargument or flaw in any part of my discussion, please come forward. Leaving in a huff does not change the facts. Although you have probably found the key to unsubscribing by now. Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Hi T, I've been a certified hypnotherapist, so I know suggestion can play a very important role in immune-boosting, pain mitigation, etc.. I've even seen the visualization of turning off a spigot stop a hemophiliac's bleed. That said, the 10-day herx-from-hell I experienced after a few initial Rife treatmernts went WAY beyond anything I'd ever experienced (even 20 hours of back-ache labor) and it was nothing my mind could have possibly cooked up, or alleviated. Indeed, it was only the steadying knowledge that I'd effectively killed pathogens and was having a Jarisch-Herxheimer response that kept me from racing to the E.R. where I knew I would encounter only ignorance of Lyme and derision of Rifing (if I'd been fool enough to mention it) Backing off on the frx at the herx onset and learning detox helped and I learned to respect what frequencies can do, both to our critters, and to us, once dead pathogens become toxins. Suggestion and belief systems lessened pain to some degree in the decades of undxed Lyme and psoriasis that came out of its toxic load, but relief of chronic stuff is hard to maintain for any length of time. The arduously-sought, proper (for me) Lyme protocols restored me to much better health, and the amazing liver-supporting Milk Thistle finally made the psoriasis recede.(BTW, I have no idea what silymarin actually does to effect this) I've seen my Rife machine (FScan 2) wipe out shingles, trigeminal nerve pain, and many other, easier, pathogen-based afflictions in friends. They humored me and have used my funny gizmo, only to be surprised at the results. One doesn't have to know the science of rain and H20 to understand that an umbrella will keep you dry. Most of us are too busy trying not to be sick to spend a lot of time researching the science we're employing. We live by 'The proof of the pudding is in the eating.' Sometimes we make mistakes, but so do scientists. (May I present Big Pharma) When I'm completely well, if I find the time, I might engage in debates about how many angels fit on the head of a pin or how many pinheads fit on the head of an angel, but I suspect I'll just be doing more travelling (just got back Fri. from a rigorous 6 month RV trip) painting, making music, entertaining, writing, and LIVING, thanks to the various protocols that truly helped me fight this crummy disease. Be well, Léna On May 8, 2012, at 8:59 AM, 123 456 wrote: I wonder how much of an influence ones belief system has on the eventual success or failure of these treatments,no matter what they are called. Just an observation. T On 5/8/12, Mike Monett mrmon...@pstca.com wrote: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: If someone doesn't agree with others, being nasty is uncalled for. You can simply say, I don't agree, and explain why. I thought I was being kind. Did you detect any unpleasantness in my phrasing? I brought up my electromedicine article because there was a discussion on this group about macular degeneration, which evolved into the use of LEDs, which my article discusses. So I thought my writing might prove helpful. For those of you who use Rife Therapy and know that it indeed works, you might be interested to know that over the course of several decades, there have been a few thousand articles published on the use of EM fields / pulsed magnetic fields / pulsed electrical fields etc. to heal infectious and degenerative conditions and restore cell function. Here is a link to the articles that were published in respected medical journals. Do you intend on explaining how you can bypass the basic fundamental physics questions I raised, or do you intend on ignoring these issues? http://www.emf-portal.org/_index.php You'll have to do some digging, but it's a fascinating site and your searches may be worth it. A promoter works the same way in any field. When you have money at stake, it is best to ignore the facts. Interestingly, the name Rife is not used in these articles (to the best of my knowledge) due to the hostility that the name can elicit at times. As we have seen here. But it's similar therapy. Then it has the same issues that need to be addresed. Please answer them. Each one if you please. All the best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
I no longer use electrodes. I also used electrode pads for a while, but skin envetually got irritated by the adhesives. My hand-holds were gold-plated, I believe. Haven't looked at them in almost 5 years since getting an ABPA A2 to deliver the frx. I chose to be untethered. Makes normal life easier and 24/7 treatment possible, except when unplugged on the road. Then I use the ABPA A2 (battery-driven, then) for balancing only. I plug in the FScan when we get into new campground and then go on my merry way, wherever. Léna On May 8, 2012, at 9:47 PM, Mike Monett wrote: Lena, Apparently there were several different versions of the FScan 2. What material are your electrodes made of? Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTreating Lyme Disease with Collodial Silver
Hi Danny, One doesn't have to be a science-techie to use a CS generator. I use a Silver puppy and it's truly a no-brainer. Just used good distilled water and follow the simple directions. I've heard that the SilverGen is another good generator but have no first-hand knowledge. google these. Really, these pay for themselves in short order and the CS (EIS) they make is excellent quality. Then, you can use it lavishly, washing produce, drinking, cleaning, and making potions and lotions for pennies. Be well, Léna On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Danny Matthews wrote: Hi, Many thanks for the replies so far - very helpful! I previously mentioned buying MesoSilver but have since looked at the pricing and just can't afford it. Would anyone know where I can purchase high quality CS in the UK? CS from other countries would also be fine provided the shipping costs aren't exorbitantly expensive :). I realised that it'd be much cheaper to make my own but I have no science background whatsoever and the idea worries me... Many Thanks, Danny On 30 April 2012 01:05, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: Some people are super infected, and just need to go at their own pace. Everyone is different. That is the great thing about CS with lyme and co - everyone can tolerate, it is just a matter of finding the right dose. Even that may mean diluting 1 drop of CS even further. Antibiotics do not have this leisure with regards to dosing, so if people can't tolerate the minimum dose of the abx, they are just asked to tough it out! CS I think is the perfect first pass for these infections. David On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Diana Clock dianacl...@ymail.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone else has noticed the silver being too much even at 1/2 teas a day for a 16 yr old. We use 30ppm by ASAP from our llmd office and I also make my own. We have been using it for 3 mths at this dose and using a rife machine. Within 20 min of a bit under a 1/2 teas he was feeling worse Thanks Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2012, at 5:21 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: Make it yourself with any generator for much cheaper. Can take much more that way too. You won't find many people here who think mesosilver is particularly any better than what you can make at home yourself. Approximately 15PPM, working up from just like a tsp dose, all the way up to 8 fl. oz. twice a day (16 fl oz total a day) is the dosage I would suggest. You only increase the dose as herxes allow. Always have as minor a herx as possible. Stronger herxes do not help you get better faster. David On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Danny Matthews dannymatthew...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have Lyme disease and am looking into using Colloidal Silver as a treatment. I've been looking into the different products available and as far as I understand it MesoSilver (http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver_price_list.php) is one of the best products of it's type on the market. I was wondering if anybody with experience of using CS with Lyme would be able to give me some idea of daily dosage and how long I should be taking it for? Many thanks for any help you can give :). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLemon juice CS
My first reaction would be that CS may keep bacteria from growing, but it would do nothing to preserve the essential, live qualities of fresh juice that make it useful. I just keep a small container of lemon wedges in the fridge and squeeze them into my glass or bottle of water, cutting new wedges every couple of days. Be well, Léna On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: Hi Group, Just squeezed four cups of fresh lemon juice...is it okay to add CS to the juice as a preservative? TIA, Debbie
Re: CSarthritis
Right! Lemons metabolize as alkaline. I drink water with fresh lemon juice all the time. L On Apr 19, 2012, at 1:13 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote: Oranges may give you arthritic pain - lemons wont Every Christmas our kids' school had a fund-raiser of citrus: oranges and grapefruit. We'd get a lot and then eat a lot, before it spoiled. So every January I'd have awful arthritis symptoms, until I read this book and figured out what was happening. I can cook and eat tomato dishes, but more than one night will trigger arthritis pain. Now i can anticipate it's effect and take ASG before and after indulging. Helps a lot.
Re: CSarthritis
Hi Debbie, Someone in the Lyme_and _Rife group used to freeze lemon juice in ice cubes and add to water, I think. dunno if it's as good or not. The allergy book I read a long time ago: I think it might have been called 'Allergy and Your Child. Cover was predominantly green. Now long gone and don't know if it's in print. Sorry. Every Christmas our kids' school had a fund-raiser of citrus: oranges and grapefruit. We'd get a lot and then eat a lot, before it spoiled. So every January I'd have awful arthritis symptoms, until I read this book and figured out what was happening. I can cook and eat tomato dishes, but more than one night will trigger arthritis pain. Now i can anticipate it's effect and take ASG before and after indulging. Helps a lot. Be well, Léna On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: Can you freeze the lemon juice and use it later? Is there an article on the Alka-seltzer Gold and allergie's to food? Very interesting, Debbie From: Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:52 PM Subject: Re: CSarthritis Hi Alan, Despite citrus being a problem for some arthritis sufferers, (nightshade also), fresh lemon juice metabolizes as alkaline in the body and is an excellent way to help fight acidity. That said, it can still etch tooth enamel before it's swallowed and digested, so lemon water is best sipped through a straw. I squeeze at least a half a lemon into my large Nalgene water bottle. It's one of the great ways to alkalize. Don't use the prepared lemon juice from bottles, like Realemon, etc.; just doesn't work the same way. BTW, I read in an allergy book that a good way to test for allergy to citrus, like orange juice, grapefruit, etc, and tomatoes, peppers, eggplant (all nightshade) it to take some Alka-seltzer GOLD (Amazon carries it) and if you experience relief of joint pain within 20 min, you have acidity issues from these foods. As a Lymie, I've also noticed that ASG seems to reduce the intensity of herxes in the joints for the same reason. Be well, Léna On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Alan Jones wrote: Interesting. Fresh? How much? -Alan On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com wrote: I take lemon juice in my water all day. That has reduced arthritis pain by 80%. Gayla - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:43 PM Subject: Re: CSarthritis Try DMSO, its a horse liniment found at a tax store, where they sell saddle's cowboy stuff. I use it on myself, it works ! I am 71 so far no side effect. Tel Tofflemire Herbalist From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: CSarthritis Kathy Tankersley wrote: I know this has been discussed on this list, but I failed to save the post, what is anyone using for arthritis? Seems like I hurt all over my whole body.I'm 73 years old, walking seems to help, I take glucosamine chondroitin msm, and have for years. But I'm ready to try something else, any suggestions? Thanks Kathy Kathy, This is my experience.I was getting awful knobby hands, both Heberden's Nodes and Bouchard's Nodes, as well as very painful knees and hips. I have some arthritis in my spine too, etc. My fingers now look almost normal. Joints are a bit large, and the twisting in my index fingers is still present, but basically the knobs and protrusions in the finger joints are pretty much gone. My knees and hips are no longer painful, unless I eat wheat/gluten. FWIW, at my worst a few years ago, I couldn't walk without 2 canes and a ton of pain. My knees not only do not hurt, but they don't even crackle and pop going up and down stairs. I think what has produced my improvement is following the dietary recommendations of Ray Peat. I no longer consume any vegetable/seed oils (except for eating out once or twice a month). I don't use any commercial mayonnaise or salad dressings anymore either. I consume gelatin and collagen daily, about 30 grams a day on average. I drink lots of milk, eat lots of cheese.drink fruit juices and have fruit, and use sugar all over the place. There is more to my story, of course, but this covers the basics, LOL. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US
Re: CSarthritis
Hi Alan, Despite citrus being a problem for some arthritis sufferers, (nightshade also), fresh lemon juice metabolizes as alkaline in the body and is an excellent way to help fight acidity. That said, it can still etch tooth enamel before it's swallowed and digested, so lemon water is best sipped through a straw. I squeeze at least a half a lemon into my large Nalgene water bottle. It's one of the great ways to alkalize. Don't use the prepared lemon juice from bottles, like Realemon, etc.; just doesn't work the same way. BTW, I read in an allergy book that a good way to test for allergy to citrus, like orange juice, grapefruit, etc, and tomatoes, peppers, eggplant (all nightshade) it to take some Alka-seltzer GOLD (Amazon carries it) and if you experience relief of joint pain within 20 min, you have acidity issues from these foods. As a Lymie, I've also noticed that ASG seems to reduce the intensity of herxes in the joints for the same reason. Be well, Léna On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Alan Jones wrote: Interesting. Fresh? How much? -Alan On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com wrote: I take lemon juice in my water all day. That has reduced arthritis pain by 80%. Gayla - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:43 PM Subject: Re: CSarthritis Try DMSO, its a horse liniment found at a tax store, where they sell saddle's cowboy stuff. I use it on myself, it works ! I am 71 so far no side effect. Tel Tofflemire Herbalist From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: CSarthritis Kathy Tankersley wrote: I know this has been discussed on this list, but I failed to save the post, what is anyone using for arthritis? Seems like I hurt all over my whole body.I'm 73 years old, walking seems to help, I take glucosamine chondroitin msm, and have for years. But I'm ready to try something else, any suggestions? Thanks Kathy Kathy, This is my experience.I was getting awful knobby hands, both Heberden's Nodes and Bouchard's Nodes, as well as very painful knees and hips. I have some arthritis in my spine too, etc. My fingers now look almost normal. Joints are a bit large, and the twisting in my index fingers is still present, but basically the knobs and protrusions in the finger joints are pretty much gone. My knees and hips are no longer painful, unless I eat wheat/gluten. FWIW, at my worst a few years ago, I couldn't walk without 2 canes and a ton of pain. My knees not only do not hurt, but they don't even crackle and pop going up and down stairs. I think what has produced my improvement is following the dietary recommendations of Ray Peat. I no longer consume any vegetable/seed oils (except for eating out once or twice a month). I don't use any commercial mayonnaise or salad dressings anymore either. I consume gelatin and collagen daily, about 30 grams a day on average. I drink lots of milk, eat lots of cheese.drink fruit juices and have fruit, and use sugar all over the place. There is more to my story, of course, but this covers the basics, LOL. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSHas anyone used silver for cataracts?
Hi Joyce, I regularly use CS as base for eye drops, adding MSM, or in dire straits (like uveiitis) a few drops of DMSO (stings a bit more) to a whole eyedropper bottle of CS. Works very well and I have my ophthomolgist's blessing. I don't see why CS wouldn't serve well to deliver eyebright. When I get home from my road trip, I plan to add L-acetylcarnosine, which is reputed to help cataracts. My ophtho. is neutral but open. Be well, Léna On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Joyce Miller wrote: I am wondering if silver could be used as a carrier for my eyebright that I use two or three times a day. My current bottle has DMSO for that purpose. My new bottle does not have DMSO. Joyce -- “Live your beliefs and you can turn the world around.” Henry David Thoreau http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:Does anyone have Brooks Bradley's Alzheimer's dementia article
I saw a series of videos on youtube with this doc and her husband. You might try finding it there, using words like 'doctor's Alzheimer's husband', 'coconut oil', etc. Be well, Léna On Apr 13, 2012, at 10:24 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: Brooks posted a study done by a Dr. using coconut oil that cured her husband of the problem. I know of someone interested. I've looked through all of my saved Brooks info. can't find it...Thanks, Lois Also- thought some might be interested in this if they have time- CharityUSA.com LLC also operates several Click to Give sites which connect everyday people to worldwide causes. Please click every day to help these life-saving efforts, at no cost to you! 1. The Hunger Site 2. The Breast Cancer Site 3. The Animal Rescue Site 4. The Veterans Site5. The Autism Site 6. The Child Health Site 7. The Literacy Site 8.The Rainforest Site
Re: CSHas anyone used silver for cataracts?
Ooops! I think it's called N-acetyl carnosine. I haven't got it with me so may be misremembering. L On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Joyce, I regularly use CS as base for eye drops, adding MSM, or in dire straits (like uveiitis) a few drops of DMSO (stings a bit more) to a whole eyedropper bottle of CS. Works very well and I have my ophthomolgist's blessing. I don't see why CS wouldn't serve well to deliver eyebright. When I get home from my road trip, I plan to add L-acetylcarnosine, which is reputed to help cataracts. My ophtho. is neutral but open. Be well, Léna On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Joyce Miller wrote: I am wondering if silver could be used as a carrier for my eyebright that I use two or three times a day. My current bottle has DMSO for that purpose. My new bottle does not have DMSO. Joyce -- “Live your beliefs and you can turn the world around.” Henry David Thoreau http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRemoving silver plating ?
I've noticed that once in a while (same set-up) I use Efferdent tablets and very hot water. An antiques dealer told me that's how he cleans out old bottles, etc. Seems to be very effective. Be Well, Léna On Mar 28, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Kurt Voitel wrote: I have several one quart glass canning jars that I use to make CS. For years I have used a magnetic stirred Silver Puppy to generate the CS. The jars have what looks like a thin silver deposit on the inside walls and bottom. Does it matter that there is a deposit on the walls of the glass jar? Is there a way to clean this deposit? Thanks for any help.
Re: CS hydrogenation
I just learned (at a cotton plantation) that Crisco is made from
cotton-seed oil) It's name is from 'Crystallized Cotton Oil. L
On Mar 28, 2012, at 9:33 PM, PTFerrance wrote:
Yes, Crisco is oil that has been hydrogenated and turned into a soft
solid.
PT
From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS hydrogenation
In a message dated 3/28/2012 5:51:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ptf2...@bellsouth.net
writes:
It is my understanding that hydrogenation takes liquids and makes them
into
solids.
PT
I think its probably the opposite i.e. the more liquid the more likely
to be
hydrogenated. dee
Ok you folks got me :-) {{ almost a dead cat with the curiosity )) I
had to go look it up...found the best answer here--Hydrogenated
fats. Hydrogenated fats, trans fats and cholesterolthings I never
knew...{{ The satisfaction brought me back.}} Never too old to learn
for sure,, .. Lois
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Re: CSRectal CS
Generally, a person lies on the right side for a coffee enema. s there some reason to do otherwise (loike for over-night?) I'd worry about the toxins being reabsorbed. Be well, Léna On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:09 AM, devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: I was talking to a medical friend about what happens when I do rectal retention and she said that it does have to go thru the liver and be processed...I use about four oz and go straight to bed and lay on my left side stays in all night...wish u well..Debbie Sent via my Samsung Replenish from Boost Mobile David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: Reviving this rectal CS thread...would rectal CS be a good idea for liver cancer? Would it reach the liver directly? Would there be a minimum volume needed to reach the liver? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS hydrogenation
I was surprised when they told me. This was back in the thirties, and
pest control wasn't as developed. I don't use Crisco, and I'd be very
interested to find out what it's made of now. L
On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:09 PM, PTFerrance wrote:
Since cotton isn’t a food crop and cottonseed oil is a byproduct that
means it also has poisons in it that are not allowed on food crops… or
so I have read.
PT
From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:43 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS hydrogenation
I just learned (at a cotton plantation) that Crisco is made from
cotton-seed oil) It's name is from 'Crystallized Cotton Oil. L
On Mar 28, 2012, at 9:33 PM, PTFerrance wrote:
Yes, Crisco is oil that has been hydrogenated and turned into a soft
solid.
PT
From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS hydrogenation
In a message dated 3/28/2012 5:51:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ptf2...@bellsouth.net
writes:
It is my understanding that hydrogenation takes liquids and makes them
into
solids.
PT
I think its probably the opposite i.e. the more liquid the more likely
to be
hydrogenated. dee
Ok you folks got me :-) {{ almost a dead cat with the curiosity )) I
had to go look it up...found the best answer here--Hydrogenated
fats. Hydrogenated fats, trans fats and cholesterolthings I never
knew...{{ The satisfaction brought me back.}} Never too old to learn
for sure,, .. Lois
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Re: CSRectal CS
The caffeine reaches the liver not by following the GI tract, but by passing easily into the entero-hepatic vein adjacent to the colon. This vein passes the liver and stimulates it to dump bile and toxins. L On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote: Coffee enemas allow the liver to release it's toxins, amazing really since any liquid has to go right around the large intestine and then the small intestine to even approach the liver - on the other hand one can chew a piece of food and need to go straight to the toilet so one end of the digestive tract is definitely attached and respondent to the other end! You can get nauseated taking something into the mouth - that is a liver response - but you could say the mouth isn't connected to the liver All of the digestive tract is connected and anything in one part affects anything else, anywhere in the tract - mouth, eosophagus, duodenum, gall bladder, liver, jejunum, small bowel, ileo caecal valve ( other valves but that one is significantly important) appendix, large bowel including the ascending, transverse and descending colon, rectum anus, with the pancreas and spleen thrown in somewhere too ... The impact for example of Epsom's Salts on a blocked bowel works in under 30 minutes to unblock it. No way that solution will have gone right the way through the whole digestive tract - but the impulse has. So whether you take CS orally or rectally either way affects the liver - so probably orally is better. Jane - Original Message - From: devorah...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 8:21 AM Subject: Re: CSRectal CS I was thinking of the asending desending colon...the Liver is not attached to anything in the rectal area. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRectal CS
CS retention might be a good idea.
Retention of a CE might not, as it will have caused a round-up of
toxins best evacuated sooner. L
On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:29 PM, devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
S..my point being that the CS retention is a good idea.
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PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
No, but the portal vein is connected to the liver and it is on the
left side to my knowledge.
PT
-Original Message-
From: devorah...@yahoo.com [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:22 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRectal CS
I was thinking of the asending desending colon...the Liver is not
attached to anything in the rectal area.
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David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote:
Though most of the liver is on the right side, one should lie on the
left side to get the most into the liver?
David
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:13 AM, devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
One more thing it would be absorbed by the blood vessels in the
area that would go to the liver...there are drugs that are
administered thru the rectum as well...do a google search for nor
info too
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Reviving this rectal CS thread...would rectal CS be a good idea for
liver cancer? Would it reach the liver directly? Would there be a
minimum volume needed to reach the liver?
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Re: CS(LL) Anyone know the best site for info on coconut oil ?
No, but the best online deal on VCO is the 54oz Nutiva at Swanson's Vitamins. That's where I get mine. Great quality, good mild taste for cooking or eating on toast. Léna On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:04 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: I know there are loads of sites to check but thought to save a bit of time--does anyone know of a particular site that is really good ?? thanks, Lois
Re: CS(LL) Anyone know the best site for info on coconut oil ?
Even though I like the flavor of coconut generally, I like the more neutral taste of Nutiva's VCO, as there are so many other subtle flavors in foods I'd don't want to overshadow with a heavily-coconut flavored oil. just my 2¢. Be well, Léna On Mar 24, 2012, at 1:23 PM, slickpic...@cox.net slickpic...@cox.net wrote: Just curious...does everyone who uses coconut oil for cooking enjoy coconut-flavored fries, coconut-flavored chicken, etc.? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com wrote: = tropical traditions has the best coconut oil in my opinion, I have been buying from them for years. Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS(LL) Anyone know the best site for info on coconut oil ? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 11:43:04 -0400 Hi Lois, I checked out oleolux as I had never heard of it before. It looks good but I would sorely miss butter as I like the sweet taste of it on things like whole grain hot cereals and I have to be careful with onions and garlic as I have turned up a food sensitivity to them in the past. I’m glad it serves you well. One thing I saw on the site, I believe, was that the supreme coconut oil is for taking unheated and they have one that is one grade down that is used for cooking. I’m glad you are doing better. Blessings, PT From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 10:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS(LL) Anyone know the best site for info on coconut oil ? In a message dated 3/24/2012 10:16:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes: Someone from this list recommended www.coconutoil-online.com I tried the coconut oil and it had no coconut taste and seemed to be of a high quality. Close to the same price as I pay for I quality Extra Virgin from another site and I found that I like the taste of coconut as I find it makes swallowing 2 T of fat easier if it tastes good.They also offer some other interesting things.PT Hi PT, I checked the site, it does have some good info. I have a friend that just heard about it was really interested. I'll send her the site. Thanks I take some everyday also I do like the coconut taste..It is the only thing we use to fry things with of course to make our oleolux .Lois No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4891 - Release Date: 03/24/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4891 - Release Date: 03/24/12 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: MSM / Re: CSColloidal Silver Eliminating Anthrax and Malaria
Whoa! Are you referring to MMS or MSM? Two completely different things; just want to be clear what you're saying as these two get typoed often. Be well, Léna On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote: So glad to hear someone else say this - everyone just looks at me and says Aw that's because you're SO toxic!! when I complain about taking MSM! - Original Message - From: Sara Mandal-Joy Not everyone can tolerate MMS though... I can't, not even at smallest dilutions Sara
Re: CSintroduction and request for help
Really could benefit from checking out http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/ So many people have been helped by this protocol, including me, a Lymie of 45+ years. Be well, Léna On Mar 12, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Edward Berwick wrote: The girl, age 14, has been diagnosed with Lyme. She has gone from Tom Boy to blind and crippled. Any advice? Sent from my iPod On Mar 12, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: A friend cured herself of Lyme after many years - I will have to asked her what method she used again - although homeopathy helped considerably she worked with other disciplines too Jane From: Brennan Michaels and John Beattie owlho...@wildblue.net I am Brennan Michaels and have been struggling with Lyme disease for 3 years now. 1 and1/2 years undiagnosed so the disease became entrenched in my body. Have been on multiple courses of antibiotics with various Herx reactions. I am coming to a place of Rife machine therapy and colloidal silver. I have read scary things about colloidal silver such as one's skin turning gray forever and the fact that the medical community deems colloidal silver either dangerous or worthless. I would like help knowing dosages and safe products. thank you, brennan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: : CSOT-- VCO on toast
That sounds great. Will track down the cookbook. While on the road, i
don't use Flaxseed, as it's so perishable and the fridge is small.
Will do this at home.
Be well,
Léna
On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:01 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 2/27/2012 12:01:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, drumr...@stny.rr.com
writes:
I also use only VCO in the kitchen now, as it's a high temp oil that
doesn't break down into bad stuff when grilling, frying. It's a great
substitute for butter in baking recipes, and also, sprinkled with sea
salt, delicious on toast.
Hi Lena, if you really want something good on toast make some
Oleolux with flaxseed oil -VCO- onion garlic.. It is so good on
steamed veggies--toast-- anywhere you would use butter or Margarine .
try making mayonnaise with cottage cheese-flaxseed oil--mustard -
apple cider vinegar {or lemon juice} I use Braggs Liquid Aminos
instead of salt I also add dill :-) Lois {Recipes from
Dr. Budwig's Oil Protein cook book
Re: : CS Flaxseed oil MSM for eyes
I've heard of virgin coconut oil for the eyes. Have used it myself for good results, but flaxseed? Hmmm. Be well, Léna On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: I used 15% msm with distilled water and cs for my drops -Original Message- Date: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:14:44 pm To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: zzekel...@aol.com Subject: : CS Flaxseed oil MSM for eyes Does anyone remember the amount of each to mix for using flaxseed oil MSM to use in eyes ??? Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: : CS Flaxseed oil MSM for eyes
Hi PT, I've used it when my eyes are really dry and red. Just before going to sleep, as it will put a film on the eyes and make sight blurry, but they'll wake in the morning feeling very refreshed. Some say it can help with cataracts, but not sure if that's true. VCO is antibacterial, antimicrobial and if I remember correctly, antifungal. Good stuff! I use it on my skin and as a lubricant for CEs. I also use only VCO in the kitchen now, as it's a high temp oil that doesn't break down into bad stuff when grilling, frying. It's a great substitute for butter in baking recipes, and also, sprinkled with sea salt, delicious on toast. AND, it feeds the starving brain cells of Alzheimer's patients (which can't process glucose well but can process the lipids of VCO). I try to consume 3 Tbs. a day for my Lyme brain. Be well, Léna On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:08 PM, PTFerrance wrote: Hi Lena, What did you use the coconut oil for in your eyes? Thanks. PT From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 7:18 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: : CS Flaxseed oil MSM for eyes I've heard of virgin coconut oil for the eyes. Have used it myself for good results, but flaxseed? Hmmm. Be well, Léna On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: I used 15% msm with distilled water and cs for my drops -Original Message- Date: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:14:44 pm To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: zzekel...@aol.com Subject: : CS Flaxseed oil MSM for eyes Does anyone remember the amount of each to mix for using flaxseed oil MSM to use in eyes ??? Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4834 - Release Date: 02/26/12
Re: CSFw: [oils_herbs_etc] Colloidal silver, was laryngitis , need help
Well said, Lola!
Be well,
Léna
On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:20 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote:
Oh, yeah. We should all listen to an out-of-control, rogue, corrupt
agency that thinks flouride (a deadly poison) added to our drinking
water and toothpaste is just ducky and allows aspartame (a neurotoxin)
to be added to our food and drink. Yeah.. they really have our best
interests at heart. lol.
I have used CS for over twenty years and .. surprise !! .. I haven't
turned blue or metallic yet. But I have avoided untold numbers of
flus, colds and have treated skin infections over the years. All are
welcome to listen to the FDA. As for me, I will keep using my CS,
thank you. Lola
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Quote: Can anyone point me to reliable information on this matter?
##Yeah, come here!
To the 'Certified Clinical Aromatherapist' {I omitted the 'medical'
part cos
it's not medical}...If the purpose of posting that here was to
impart some
factual information, then here's my response...Complete and utter BS!
Not one of those 'Authorities?' define what substance they refer to
in their
silver bashing, and not one 'Authority?' has any information
regarding the
product we produce in the kitchen!
There is a vast difference between shop bought products, which these
so
called authorities refer to, and what is produced in the home using
LVDC!
N.
From: highfie...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:03:15 +1100
Subject: CSFw: [oils_herbs_etc] Colloidal silver, was laryngitis ,
need
help
I recommended gargling swallowing 20 - 30 ml of CS for someone with
laryngitis - this was someone else's response - this is what we are up
against I guess - all I can do is groan. On the other hand I
suppose I
could point out other anomalies the FDA show in their recommendations.
Jane
- Original Message -
From: Penny
To: oils_herbs_...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:32 AM
Subject: [oils_herbs_etc] Colloidal silver, was laryngitis , need help
Hi Everyone,
Simply type in 'Colloidal Silver dangers' in any search engine and
you will
get plenty of legimate websites with FDA research results stating
the unsafe
or side effects of using colloidal silver supplements.
I just did a brief search and came up with several sites explaining
the
dangerous side of effects of using colloidal silver. Ingesting
silver is
toxic and the damage done is not reversable.
There are many MLM companies saying it is safe to use colloidal
silver but
MLM companies, as we all know, have a lot of hype to sell products.
On the other hand essential oils when used in proper amounts by
diffusing
them, inhaling them or as a massage oil or lotion in the proper
percentages
will help with many health concerns. Your body doesn't store
essential oils
in the body, it eliminates them usually within a few hours.
Please note: Do not ingest essential oils unless they are prescribed
by a
licensed medical practioner. You do not ingest essential oils for
health
concerns - in the USA - if you are an aromatherapist - you know that
the FDA
rules do not allow us to tell folks to ingest.
We can have you Gargle a diluted warm water solution with a drop or
two of
essential oils added but you would 'spit' it out and not swallow it.
Please note that Sweet Birch and Wintergreen are not true essential
oils and
as such will accumulate in the liver. They contain methyl salicylate
and it
is widely known that salicylates are toxic and need to be used with
caution.
The best suggestion for Laryngitis is still to inhale essential oils
that
reduce inflammation such as the Chamomiles or even Eucalyptus oils.
See my
previous post of an article written with suggestions to help in
particular
for laryngitis.
I'm sure there are a few herbalists on this list that may know of
polstices
or balms that can be used on the throat region to help with the
inflammation
also.
Yours in Aromatherapy,
Penny Keay
Certified Clinical Medical Aromatherapist
Birch Hill Happenings Aromatherapy, LLC
Why buy a 'gallon' when you only need a few drops!
www.birchhillhappenings.com
Your One Stop Aromatherapy Shop!
Since 1997
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calestarisingoaks@...
wrote:
Oh... I thought colloidal silver was risky--I have half a bottle at
home
unused because I became wary of it. Can anyone point me to reliable
information on this matter?
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Re: CS Off Topic - Tape Worm
The only useful thing I know about tape worms is that if you do manage to kill them, (perhaps with diatomaceous earth? Dunno for sure) that you will find what looks like tomato skins in your toilet. If you haven't been eating fresh tomatoes, these things are pieces of parasites. Be well, Léna On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Anthony Cullingworth wrote: Anybody know a way to tell if you are suffering from a tapeworm, with out going to the Docs? Any Natural remedies? And is a natural remedy going to work if you happen to be the lucky guy that has had one growing for a long time and it is now a masive one? Anthony __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6881 (20120213) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSCS and dogs /skin issues//Joyce
I can only speak for what CS has done for me with Lyme disease, which
certainly has a host of co-infections. (I also have a Maltese who gets
daily CS in his water.) I think it would probably help. I also give
him some diatomaceous earth (google it) which is a real killer of
prasites. (I take it for me as well; it comes highly recommended in my
Lyme groups.)
Be well,
Léna
On Feb 5, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Ron Minnick wrote:
I would also like to know if you know or think that CS could do
anything for a dog with giardia, or coccidia?
From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 20:45:05 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS and dogs /skin issues//Joyce
if anyone else has done this and what more they can tell me about
using CS for dogs with skin issues or other issues.
Hi Joyce, I have used Brooks Mix on several skin problems for both
pets friends---It is 75% CS---10% DMSO 15% glycerin. {used
topically } give it a shake to mix it as it will separate a bit..
was said to add the DMSO last as it heats up --not sure why but I do..
The heating isn't a problem--{ Many times skin problems are aligeries.}}
Also---When I took one of my pups to a therapy dog schooling a Vet.
there said with Lab type dogs that do get ear problems a good mix to
use is--1/16th hydrogen peroxide with equal mix of white vinegar
distilled water... I use it as a cleaner about once a month. did use
it for an ear infection along with a squirt of CS later in the
day ..Lois
Re: CSCS and dogs
The obvious question is: why do they have the dog at all? Animals
deserve better. They're not furniture or accessories for the American
dream, but living beings with needs. L
On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:34 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
Over 9 months of vet treatment for inner ear bacterial infection
{swabbed under anaesthetic} failed so I made some EIS/CS and told
daughter to get a syringe casing and squirt some directly into the
ear, infection was fixed practically overnight, the daughter said it
was fixed in 24 hours. Labradors are prone to filthy ears so she uses
EIS/CS periodically to maintain clean and infection free ears. She's
been doing this for a few years now, she also pours some into its
water bowl periodically.
Because daughter works, this dog spends 25 hours a day on its gut in
the kennel sleeping so occasionally one ear will be scraped raw and
bleeding from sleeping on it on the edge of the kennel opening, I've
treated this on more than one occasion too, with success, but needs
spraying on as many times a day as feasibly possible {I do this when
we happen to visit} but healing is not as quick when we aren't
visiting cos the dog spends all day and every day in its kennel when
daughter is at work.
Other daughters cat had severe open wounds from fighting, told her to
squirt some on the wound as often as she could and when she could and
the wound healed up remarkably quick. Bit tricky with a cat as cat's
don't cooperate all that well g. Cos the cat always licked the
wound it was ingesting EIS/CS as well as what remained on the wound,
attacked it from two directions if you like. I've treated this cat on
two occasions and both times with fairly quick recovery. The other
occasion was for quite severe war wounds on the face, the cat couldn't
lick its own face as efficiently so that heeled quicker.
I'm at the moment getting someone else to treat their dog for
operation wound {on the throat or a tad further down I believe} which
hasn't healed in over 18 months to two years, but as they live in the
city I can't get to see the dog myself. I'm not sure if they are
doing as I asked them to. I don't get any feedback either, which is
annoying, but they did ask for more EIS/CS the other week. I don't
think they are administering anywhere near enough for quicker
recovery, nevermind, we're going to the city next month so will suss
things out.
Absolutely swear by this stuff.
N.
From: jmillerwo...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 22:18:04 -0600
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS and dogs
This is something that I will be posting to the dog lists that I own
and the dog lists that I am on, but before I do, I wanted to ask this
list if anyone else has done this and what more they can tell me
about
using CS for dogs with skin issues or other issues.
Thanks,
Joyce Miller
Re: CSBoils and infections
The skin if the third kidney. Best to pay attention to kidney support, and liver support. Lots of good info to google. You can fight infection with CS, but if you aren't practicing good detox methods, the body will still struggle with its burden of toxins and try to push them out any way it can. Be well, Léna On Feb 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, asif nathekar wrote: Hi group, A friend has recurrent large and painful boils / infections under his skin which usually spreads but is temporarily treated with a course of three antibiotics. He did try my cs with some but not much success and went back for antibiotics. This time he got them I upped the dose of cs to 500ml per day , which finally did do something and got the infection retreating ! Phew !. But it did recur after two days when he got lax out of overconfidence and stopped the cs. Is there other things I can do like hydrogen peroxide or msm or vitamin c or iodine or something for him ... I Would like some pointers please. As its getting very serious and unmanageable. I have a beck zapper , any advice or anecdotal stories on that . Actual evidence welcome! Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInformation on Lyme
Another great site for making a clinical diagnosis of Lyme is canlyme.com On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Ron Minnick wrote: Hey Holly, just thought that you might find this of some interest, as it's similar to a few other pieces of info I have gotten in the past referring to Lyme disease causing symptoms like other diseases, and not being properly diagnosed...anyway you might want to take a look see for yourself I think that I am going to try to find some of this stuff and give it a try, if it's not too expensive.. Doreen Someone on the list recently asked for help with Lyme. The information below came through on another list, and thought I'd post it here in the hopes that it can help someone else. Near the bottom of the post is a web addy for additional information. MA My nutritionist had it (Bad!) and has cured herself, but it's some nasty stuff!! If it gets out of hand it can paralyse the host, does not sound like fun. Here is some of what she said about the symptoms: 20:09:25 kristina Lyme Disease, in the United States, may be affecting millions of people. Some believe that Lyme Disease is the underlying causative agent of many chronic health conditions, including but not limited to: allergies, heart arrhythmias, arthritis (both osteo and rheumatoid), ADD, auto-immune disorders, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, depression, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, macular degeneration, sensory or motor radiculoneuropathies (i.e., clumsiness in the hands or feet and/or burning, tingling or numbness), Alzheimer's Disease, ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease), Bell's palsy, irritable bowel syndrome and gastrointestinal distress, lupus, polymyalgia rheumatica (a more severe form of fibromyalgia), sleep disorders, reflex sympathetic dystrophy, brain fog, memory loss, joint pain/swelling/stiffness, lack of coordination, unexplained chills and fevers, recurrent infections, poor concentration, tremors, shortness of breath, anxiety or panic attacks, heart palpitations, weight changes (loss or gain), sore throats, loss of appetite, muscle pain or cramps, obsessive compulsive disorders, headaches/migraines, light sensitivity, trigeminal neuralgia, unexplained hair loss, and visual changes. 20:10:37 kristina a recent study demonstrated the efficacy of Cat's Claw (Unicaria tomentosa) in destroying the Lyme organism. In fact, in the study, the control group of 14 patients all took antibiotics and only 3 improved slightly, 3 got worse and the remainder had no change in their clinical condition. The experimental group was treated with Cat's Claw and 85% of them were negative for the Lyme organism after 6 months and all the patients experienced a dramatic improvement in their clinical condition. (Cowden, WE, MD, et al., Lyme Disease: Nutraceutical Breakthrough Using TOA-Free Cat's Claw, Focus, Feb '04, pp.3,4) In utilizing Cat's Claw, it is extremely important that the quality and purity of the product be assured. This herb occurs naturally in 2 forms: the more common TOA form and the rarer POA form. For those of you with a chemical bent, TOA stands for tetracyclic oxindole alkaloid and POA for pentacyclic oxindole alkaloid. Only the POA form is effective in stimulating the immunity which destroys the organism. As little as 1% TOA can cause a 30% reduction in the immune system modulating properties that POAs provide. Unfortunately some commercially available products contain as much as 80% TOAs. (Ibid, p. 3) The Medi-Herb Cat's Claw that we use at the RFHC is 1.5% to 2.0% POAs, the highest concentration available, and is TOA free. Therefore, the amount needed is less, making it much more affordable than other POA products on the market. We did a cost study and determined that using Medi-Herb Cat's Claw was very cost effective. 20:14:20 kristina There are so many more symptoms, but let's go on to treatment: 20:14:23 kristina High protein, high fat, low carb diet with vegetables (modified elimination diet). Avoid artificial sweeteners. Drink lots of pure water. Quality essential fatty acids are critical. 20:14:32 kristina Probiotics to maintain normal bowel flora. 20:14:57 kristina Gall bladder flushes (use hot lemon tea to maintain gall bladder function) and a beet supplement such as AF BetaFood. She goes into other treatments as well, pretty aggressive stuff but shes been there herself, may hold some merit. Whole chat discussion: http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/kb.asp?ID=260 Hope something is helpful.Aggressive treatment, but if it keeps advancing or the pills run out, something to consider.
Re: CSCS prevents mold?
Another amazing anti-mold treatment is Thieves' Oil (google it) Completely cleared an RV with lurking mold issues, after MMS treatments didn't really do it. Gets every nook and cranny. Be well, Léna On Jan 16, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Thomas Mayhew wrote: Check out this stuff for mold CS = Colloidal Silver MMS = Miracle Mineral Solution On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: It can help, but the real powerhouse is chlorine dioxide and activated MMS. for killing it, including spores. Marshall On 1/16/2012 3:54 PM, Gayla Roberts wrote: Can anyone tell me if CS will prevent mold from growing? Thanks! Gayla -- Thomas Mayhew, BSSE, BROKER, REALTOR®, ePRO Residential/Commercial - By Appt. Only A Real Estate Voice You Can Trust COLDWELL BANKER TOMLINSON AB Kennewick, WA www.TopTriCityHomes.com Call: 509.302.7145 Email: tho...@toptricityhomes.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/365-Things-To-Do-In-Tri-Cities-WA/290634757654265 http://www.facebook.com/pages/365-Things-To-Do-In-Tri-Cities-WA/290634757654265?sk=videos
Re: CSCS prevents mold?
I use it to wipe down surfaces, rinse strawberries and other produce and have definitely noticed that it discourages mold. Even sprayed some shoes my husband had left in a warm damp place. Washed them with detergent, rinsed thoroughly with CS, dried them in sunlight, and then lightly sprayed them again with CS. There's been no trace of mold or mold smell since. Be well, Léna On Jan 16, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Gayla Roberts wrote: Can anyone tell me if CS will prevent mold from growing? Thanks! Gayla
Re: CSNetti Pot and CS
I put CS in a nasal mister and it's very comfortable to mist up into my sinuses. Haven't had any sinus issues since doing this. Be well, Léna On Jan 12, 2012, at 1:42 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: I did neti pot once with CS. Stings like hell. Would not recommend it. I think nasal spray CS is not uncomfortable though. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Kathryn Neff n...@swtexas.net wrote: In a recent alert on the internet regarding problems with using the Netti Pot with regular water that allow some pathogen to pass through the membranes of the brain by way of the nasal passages..was wondering if anyone uses CS in the water of the Netti Pot and if so how much would be appropriate. If it is so that there is a connection between the brain and nasal passages would CS pass through and help the brain. Kathy Neff
Re: CSHello from new member!
Also, from what i've heard, the Meissner setup takes quite a long time to make CS (I've tried that CS and found it no better than what I make with my Silver Puppy) The Silver Puppy only takes 3+ hours. Be well, Léna On Jan 11, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Dan Nave wrote: I have to second this. There would be no problem with the Meissmer setup if the cost was $25. Otherwise, you are paying a large amount of money for being ignorant. I would endorse the Silver Puppy. If you want large amounts of CS you may want to get a unit that has more volume capability, but make sure you know what you are paying for. Dan On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Steve youngs...@digis.net wrote: If you are going to go this route, you can save roughly $170 by going to Radio Shack, buying a two AA battery holder (270-408), a 4.7K resistor (2160255), 2 AA batteries, and some clip leads (278-1157). You will have to get two 5 inch 0.999 #12 pure silver wire electrodes on line – there are several sources. Using the clip leads, connect one battery holder wire to the top of one silver electrode. With another clip lead, connect the other battery holder wire to the resistor (or just solder the wire to the resistor). With a third clip lead, connect the other resistor wire to the top of the other silver electrode. Use two clothes pins, clip the silver electrodes on either side of a wide mouth quart jar. Fill with steam distilled water to a level just below the clips and let it sit for a day or two. No stirring is needed. You can follow the directions on the Meissnerresearch site. If you don’t mind spending the $200, then get a constant current polarity reversing automatic shutoff unit as recommended by the other posts. I just hate to see anyone spend $200 for a couple of batteries and a resistor! --Steve Y. From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ] On Behalf Of Jim Meissner yahoo Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHello from new member! Hi Paul, You might consider this one. I’ve used CS made with it for 11 years now, as needed, for pneumonia, lyme and other tick-borne diseases, cuts, scrapes, sinus infections, etc with excellent results. http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator Carol Monroe From: zzekel...@aol.com [mailto:zzekel...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHello from new member! In a message dated 1/10/2012 6:00:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, devorah...@yahoo.com writes: Hey everybody. Decided to join because within the last week i've been researching CS nonstop. After a long, frustrating journey trying to figure out my health issues (mostly lifelong asthma, and sinusitis for 3 years) CS hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew I was on the right track. I'm on my 4th day and the results are miraculous. Just incredible. I just ordered a portable nebulizer to help accelerate the results. And now, probably like most of you, i'm pretty determined to make my own CS. I'm deep in the middle of reading through each manufacturers site. It is a bit of a wild ride but i'm convinced i'll find something. I know i need constant current, probably want an automatic stirrer, etc. Ill search the archives for more info. take care, Paul believe it or not i'm walking on air Hi Paul welcome...You've hit a great group of people here.. I have learned so much since I joined... There are a couple members in the group that sell C S generators... Ask I'm sure they will send you info..I have a silver puppy love it. Sold by Ode on the group... Once again Welcome.Lois No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4134 - Release Date: 01/10/12 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHello from new member!
I second that! My Silver puppy has been making me great CS/EIS for 3 years and the silver rods are still going strong. Saves me a fortune! I generally set it on 'auto' for stuff i'd drink, but can override that with 'manual' for stronger concentration for lotions and such. Be well, Léna On Jan 10, 2012, at 6:00 PM, PTFerrance wrote: You won't go wrong with a SilverPuppy. I have no knowledge of electronics and have wonderful results due to Ode's great unit. PT -Original Message- From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHello from new member! Big welcome to you Paul...this is an awesome group of people here and you will learn incredible thing's :) Debbie -Original Message- Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:54:51 pm To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: Paul sprangers psprang...@gmail.com Subject: CSHello from new member! Hey everybody. Decided to join because within the last week i've been researching CS nonstop. After a long, frustrating journey trying to figure out my health issues (mostly lifelong asthma, and sinusitis for 3 years) CS hit me like a ton of bricks, and I knew I was on the right track. I'm on my 4th day and the results are miraculous. Just incredible. I just ordered a portable nebulizer to help accelerate the results. And now, probably like most of you, i'm pretty determined to make my own CS. I'm deep in the middle of reading through each manufacturers site. It is a bit of a wild ride but i'm convinced i'll find something. I know i need constant current, probably want an automatic stirrer, etc. Ill search the archives for more info. take care, Paul -- believe it or not i'm walking on air -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12
Re: CSRe: DMSO and EIS nebulizer recipe
I used a full dropper-bottle of home genrated CS (EIS) and added just a few drops of DMSO and it knocked out a case of uveiitis in a third of the time earlier conventional treatments had done. My ophtho. was impressed and gave this his blessings for any future need. An alternative to DMSO which doesn't sting as initially like DMSO is MSM, which I use for regular dry-eye and floaters. Be well, Léna On Jan 7, 2012, at 9:54 AM, PTFerrance wrote: Hi Sandee, I’m not advocating the use of DMSO in the eyes or not, but I will share that a friend feels it helped return his eyesight to a more normal state. He used CS, CanSee and a few drops of DMSO and said that although it stung a bit he saw a lot better afterward. Perhaps you did not dilute the DMSO enough? Cataracts were one of his issues and if I ever need it I would probably only add a drop or two of DMSO to the bottle of CanSee drops. PT From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: DMSO and EIS nebulizer recipe Hi There David, I had the personal experience that DMSO used in the eyes in any form - being a drying agent - reduced the fluid of my eyes causing my contact lenses to be very difficult to remove - Marshall reminded me that it was a drying agent, so I stopped using it, I now only use EIS alone or with Dr Schultz cataract drops with caynne, and my eyes are all back doing what they have always done.My eye man told me it was age, any tale can have any ending one wants to apply Take good care and enjoy a wonderful 2012 Sandee Attitude is everything !! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4728 - Release Date: 01/07/12 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried consumerproducts.com
Re: CSbrain a barrier?
Thanks MA! On Jan 6, 2012, at 7:22 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Hi Lena -- I'm glad the information was worthwhile to you. And as Marshall clarified, it's likely that it's the ionic portion of your home-made CS that will cross the blood-brain barrier to do the job needed doing. I hope you are successful in eradicating those spirochettes!! :-) MA From: Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 5, 2012 10:42:30 PM Subject: Re: CSbrain a barrier? Hi MaryAnn, I find your account fascinating and reassuring! As a Lymie, I know that the bbb is an important factor in treatment, and as I generate my own CS for my household, I'm going to build up my own use of it. Be well, Léna On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:45 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Marshall -- I'm probably the least knowledgeable person on this list -- but my own experience leads me to believe that colloidal silver does cross the blood-brain barrier. At least in horses it does. That's how I came to learn about CS in the first place -- my horse had EPM, a neurological disease caused by protozoa crossing the blood- brain barrier and setting up breeding sites in the spinal column, which caused inflammation, swelling and neuro symptoms. The only way to treat the disease was to use a product that also crossed the blood- brain barrier, and evidence of this happening was a healing crisis in the horse where their symptoms actually worsened for awhile (as the protozoa started dying) before gradually improving -- sometimes to a complete recovery. Colloidal silver caused such a healing crisis in our horses (called a *downturn* in equine medical reference to this disease) -- so we knew that CS was crossing the blood brain barrier. Otherwise, there would have been no reaction to the ingestion of CS -- and no recovery for these horses, many of whom had already been treated by standard veterinary treatments/drugs. I realize that this is only word-of-mouth (can't think of the right term for that) evidence -- but you would have a hard time convincing a whole bunch of EPM-horse owners that it wasn't true. FWIW. MA From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 5, 2012 9:07:33 AM Subject: Re: CSbrain a barrier? I have read that colloidal silver does not cross the barrier, but that silver citrate does. If that is the case I suspect that silver chloride cross it as well, but is very limited due to its lack of solubility. If I wanted to get silver to the brain, I will mix with something that has citric acid before drinking it, such as gatorade or citric fruit juice. Marshall On 1/4/2012 6:36 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Just a few months ago on a lyme forum a lady had fast developing paralysis. CS reversed it very quickly. This, and many other anecdotes, would suggest that CS does cross the BBB to a meaningful degree. David On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:13 PM, mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com wrote: Is there information on silver crossing the blood brain barrier? Informed person says it does. I witnessed someone putting a poultice of c silver on the arm and this seemed to cause a slightly raised, de pigmented scar tissue like area. If I can vaguely remember, Becker said that silver can de differentiate cells and that skin mediated voltage fields can sustain a re differentiation and thus some regeneration of limb and bone, even cancerous. I may not have it right, but I dont have the book anymore. Another part of the conundrum is that when the silver forms brown stains on the colloidal making apparatus, this is very difficult to clean. So I imagine the silver staining the brain and causing dedifferentiation and this seems totally frightening. What is uncontrolled de-differentiation? Perhaps almost a cancer, perhaps a scar tissue, but anyway, not good I can imagine. Sorry if this has been covered, I looked at the archives but didnt find anything thanks mg -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbrain a barrier?
Hi MaryAnn, I find your account fascinating and reassuring! As a Lymie, I know that the bbb is an important factor in treatment, and as I generate my own CS for my household, I'm going to build up my own use of it. Be well, Léna On Jan 5, 2012, at 12:45 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Marshall -- I'm probably the least knowledgeable person on this list -- but my own experience leads me to believe that colloidal silver does cross the blood-brain barrier. At least in horses it does. That's how I came to learn about CS in the first place -- my horse had EPM, a neurological disease caused by protozoa crossing the blood- brain barrier and setting up breeding sites in the spinal column, which caused inflammation, swelling and neuro symptoms. The only way to treat the disease was to use a product that also crossed the blood- brain barrier, and evidence of this happening was a healing crisis in the horse where their symptoms actually worsened for awhile (as the protozoa started dying) before gradually improving -- sometimes to a complete recovery. Colloidal silver caused such a healing crisis in our horses (called a *downturn* in equine medical reference to this disease) -- so we knew that CS was crossing the blood brain barrier. Otherwise, there would have been no reaction to the ingestion of CS -- and no recovery for these horses, many of whom had already been treated by standard veterinary treatments/drugs. I realize that this is only word-of-mouth (can't think of the right term for that) evidence -- but you would have a hard time convincing a whole bunch of EPM-horse owners that it wasn't true. FWIW. MA From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 5, 2012 9:07:33 AM Subject: Re: CSbrain a barrier? I have read that colloidal silver does not cross the barrier, but that silver citrate does. If that is the case I suspect that silver chloride cross it as well, but is very limited due to its lack of solubility. If I wanted to get silver to the brain, I will mix with something that has citric acid before drinking it, such as gatorade or citric fruit juice. Marshall On 1/4/2012 6:36 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Just a few months ago on a lyme forum a lady had fast developing paralysis. CS reversed it very quickly. This, and many other anecdotes, would suggest that CS does cross the BBB to a meaningful degree. David On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:13 PM, mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com wrote: Is there information on silver crossing the blood brain barrier? Informed person says it does. I witnessed someone putting a poultice of c silver on the arm and this seemed to cause a slightly raised, de pigmented scar tissue like area. If I can vaguely remember, Becker said that silver can de differentiate cells and that skin mediated voltage fields can sustain a re differentiation and thus some regeneration of limb and bone, even cancerous. I may not have it right, but I dont have the book anymore. Another part of the conundrum is that when the silver forms brown stains on the colloidal making apparatus, this is very difficult to clean. So I imagine the silver staining the brain and causing dedifferentiation and this seems totally frightening. What is uncontrolled de-differentiation? Perhaps almost a cancer, perhaps a scar tissue, but anyway, not good I can imagine. Sorry if this has been covered, I looked at the archives but didnt find anything thanks mg -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking 40 PPM is so simple.
I agree! My Silver Puppy is versatile, relatively quick, and the quality of its product proven in its great benefits to our lives. Be well, Léna On Dec 17, 2011, at 8:01 AM, PTFerrance wrote: Ode’s SilverPuppy is my pick. After it turns off at 15ppm you can over-ride it make the CS as strong as you want… and you cannot beat the price I paid. PT From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking 40 PPM is so simple. I Have made all my Colloidal Silver 40 p.p.m. and more for over 12 years now. In fact I told everyone on the list how to do it several times. You use a good unit, and you make a gallon at a time, it doesn't take me any longer to make a gallon than a quart with a Colloidal Master AC. The best part is I de-vide the gallon of 40 or more p.p.m. into another gallon jar and add more distilled water until I get what PPM I want. Lots of times I only want around 20 PPM. That is all you need for most of the time. By the way, I know several on the list that use the colloidal Master, and are very happy with it what it does. There made by (www.wishgranted.com ) Tel Tofflemire From: Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:49 PM Subject: CSMaking highly ionic CS. (Was the Silvercell process) One other thing I forgot to metion in my previous post is that consuming large amounts of high ppm CS may may not be such a good idea anyway, unless you have a very good reason to do so. Any claim that highly ionic CS 'cannot cause argyria' is purely speculative. David As I said, its not that hard, but hardly worth the effort in my experience. David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1890 / Virus Database: 2108/4685 - Release Date: 12/16/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1890 / Virus Database: 2108/4685 - Release Date: 12/16/11
Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis
Thanks Sunny, I'll check it out, although i know in the past i've had a compound with japanese knotweed. With a 45 year case of LymeCo., the many co-infections require quite a juggling act, but i'm getting well: about 90%. :) On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Sunny wrote: Lena, have you tried resveratrol for Lymes. If you can find the invasive, Japanese Knotweed, dig up the roots.. it contains more resveratrol than any plant. I read about it in the Invasive Plant Medicine book. Dry the roots and scrape them into a spoon of honey or something like that, or put them in vegecaps and swallow. Here's a youtube video about it featuring herbalist Timothy Scott who had Lyme disease. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3N0biKrjQ Also check out Steven Buhner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asw0_DaA85Yfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PL0449CB6E7E7D9E4A A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:58 AM Subject: Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a nightshade sensitivity and find that Alka-Seltzer Gold (different form regular Alka-Seltzer) would help neutralize the acidity and the effects of nightshades and citrus and ease pain within a half hour. Body ph is very important with auto-immune and inflammatory diseases. I have Lyme disease. (but many years ago was misdiagnosed with RA) Be well, Léna On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:02 AM, PTFerrance wrote: My Aunt had it and when she took all offending foods out of her diet the symptoms went away. When she would slip up and eat something she shouldn’t she would know because it would flare up. For her nightshades and dairy were the worst. PT From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a very good friend that has rhumatoid arthritis, and I was wondering if anyone on the llist has had/or does have it and what treatment worked for you? Thanks, Kathy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4584 - Release Date: 10/30/11
Re: CSEIS for Heartworm
From what I've read, the Guiness Draught in the black bottle (imported from Ireland, not the Guiness Black Labe from Canada) will sterilize the heartworms so they can't replicate. i think if there's an activeinfection, it must be given once a week for a month, then maintenance of once a month, but i don't know the dosage for 70lb dogs. (Mine is 12 lbs) Léna On Dec 10, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Marshall wrote: I don't think it will help, but could be wrong. Marshall On 12/10/2011 4:17 PM, Day Sutton wrote: My two guys have had heartworm for at least 6 mos to a year. I'm giving them tinctures of Black Walnut Hull and Wormwood, along with Guiness black label beer and Garlic. They don't look or act like they have heartworm. But I had them tested today, and they still have them.. question is will EIS help with this problem... they each weigh around 70 lbs.. -- PLEASE remove ALL names and email addresses before forwarding; and send only as BLIND CARBON COPY (Bcc). Erasing the addresses helps prevent SPAMMERS from mining the addresses and propagating VIRUSES and reduces the possibility of identity theft. Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSrhumatoid arthritis
I have a nightshade sensitivity and find that Alka-Seltzer Gold (different form regular Alka-Seltzer) would help neutralize the acidity and the effects of nightshades and citrus and ease pain within a half hour. Body ph is very important with auto-immune and inflammatory diseases. I have Lyme disease. (but many years ago was misdiagnosed with RA) Be well, Léna On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:02 AM, PTFerrance wrote: My Aunt had it and when she took all offending foods out of her diet the symptoms went away. When she would slip up and eat something she shouldn’t she would know because it would flare up. For her nightshades and dairy were the worst. PT From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSrhumatoid arthritis I have a very good friend that has rhumatoid arthritis, and I was wondering if anyone on the llist has had/or does have it and what treatment worked for you? Thanks, Kathy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4584 - Release Date: 10/30/11
Re: CScolloidal silver for cataracts?/any suggestions/
Hi Elbert, I'm so sorry you're in this situation and I know it must be very scary for you. I'm not really conversant with diabetes, and I'm sure that treating that is your first line of defense. I just have Lyme disease which has caused lots and lots of floaters, dry-eye, occasional uveiitis, and at 66, I have the beginnings of cataracts. I can only speak from my own experience, which may not be applicable to your situation. After years of dry-eye that was beginning to cause real sticking discomfort (accompanied by tiny flashes of phosphenes on awakening, I dropped CS into my eyes and was surprised how improved they were. Later on, I discovered Natural Sight's MSM Eye drops, and these seemed to help as well. MSM helps nutrients get into the cells and toxins to leave. When my bottle finished, I simply dissolved some MSM in my CS and it seemed to work just as well. I have noticed a very slight decrease in floaters, since. Before diagnosis of Lyme I had a bad bout of uveiitis which was treated with abx cream. It took over a week to subside. After having Lyme diagnosis, I was wary of abx, not wanting to drive the Lyme into cyst form, so I used CS again with a few drops of DMSO added to the dropper bottle. It stung briefly, but cleared my flare in just three days and the ophthamologist was impressed with how clear things were in the split-lamp exam. Since then, I've heard that N-Acetyl Carnosine is supposed to break up cataracts, and I got some powder, but haven't made a mix yet. I do know that it's available in drops, but I like to make my own, frequently rather than discard after 30 days which gets expensive.You might want to google it. There's a lot of info there. I do hope you find something that will save your sight. Please try find ways to ease your panic, as its stress will work against you and you have a future to steadily fight for. Be well, Léna On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Elbert vaughn wrote: Dear group memembers, I have heard from the interenet that taking colloidal silver is helpful in the threatment of cataracts? Is that true? If you know anything would you elaborate about the prospects of collodial silver reversing cataracts? My name is Elbert Vaughn. Please, Please have mercy and help me if you can. Tell me what to say, and how to say it to get you to reply. I have cataracts caused by my diabetes. I have no health insurance, and I can never afford cataract sugery at this time. I am frantically searching for non-surgical solultions that can advert surgery all together or delay it until I can find some affordable health insurance. If you have any information/advice that you think can help me, please, please for the love God, please share it with me. I am hysterical, because I can be blind within a year(diabetes causes cataracts to progress very fast).I have other complications from diabetes, but I must address these cataracts first, because they can cause blindnesss. It is my 1st priority because I am a single father, and my kids will be taken away from me to childs protective services (foster home)because of my deterioting eyesight which will cause me to lose my job. If you have any info, and/or any personal experiences on any non-surgical(topical eyedrops/oral medication) that you know can dissolve cataracts/diminish cataracts/halt the progression of cataracts or anything positve about any product that you or someone you know may have benefited from, please for the love of God, please get in contact with me,and share with me what you know. I have been diagnosed with cataracts in both eyes 5 months ago, as I mentioned I have no health insurance and can never afford cataract sugery at this time. What I have dreaded has happend , and that is that diabetes would effect my eyes, because I knew I would never be able to afford any kind of sugery or laser surgery for my eyes, because I have no health insurance. I am frantically trying to try to obtain some affortable health insurnace, so I can pay for cataract sugergy which I have been unable to obtain every since being diagnosed with diabetes 3 years ago. In the meantime I am hoping and praying I can find a non-surgical product to prevent me from possible going blind ( As I mention the prospects of going blind is constanly on my mind because I am a single father, and my kids most likely will be taken away from me. Please, please, please have mercy and reply to this message if you know anything that can help a person such as myself). I am hoping a memember of the group has had some personal experience of having success with any products dissolving cataracts or getting some positive results from any alternative non-surgical treatments of their cataracts. Any positve experience you may have or someone that you know may have had with a product that has been effective in the treatment of cataracts, please,
Re: CSNova says Iceman suffered from Lyme Disease
Nowdays it's not the case, probably thanks to Nazi Dr. Ernest Traub and his work at Plum Island. That's where the Lyme, Ct. b Bergdorferii we easterners have came from. Be well, Léna On Oct 26, 2011, at 9:57 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Ya, that news is going around on the Lyme forums. Pretty crazy. I was listening to a Dr. K describe some history of Lyme disease in Europe, and how people basically would get nothing more than a sore swollen joint, and it would contain itself to that basically. Nowadays, that is not the case. David On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Just saw a Nova program on TV in which the Iceman, ancient human found frozen in the alps, was tested for DNA. The DNA and physical symptoms shows that he suffered from Lyme disease. Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSiodine question concerning black walnut hulls
Hi Lois,
Perhaps, but it sounds like you made good use of them anyway, with
great memories and a stand of trees to boot!
Be well,
Léna
On Oct 22, 2011, at 8:59 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 10/21/2011 11:49:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mdud...@king-cart.com writes:
I just got a bunch of lovely black walnuts: bright green and un-
smashed, and have put them in a big glass container
When I was a kid I took a bunch of black walnuts carried them down
to our woods. {on my horse } I went around stomping them into the
ground..Now There are many beautiful black walnut trees there...We
used to shuck them through the corn sheller put them in the attic
on a sheet to dry..Hard devils to crack but the walnut cake --
icecream--cookies---on on were worth it..All these useful things
medically I never knew about them. Lois
Re: CSneti pot with EIS?
I mist CS up my nose whenever needed, so i don't see why using a neti pot would be any different. The mist has certainly cleared up chronic sinus issues here. Léna On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:36 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Anyone try this? Any potential safety issues? Might be a nice way to clear out the sinuses. David
Re: CSneti pot with EIS?
From what I've heard, xylitol has pathogen-killing properties, so it should be introduced (to humans) gradually, as it can cause herxes. A large amount, as in a complete sugar replacement in a recipe, can cause stomach upset in some people. On the other hand, it's a great additive to topical lotions, great for teeth, and after ramping up a while, a wonderful sweetener, without the problems of artificial sweeteners. Be well, Léna On Oct 22, 2011, at 10:17 PM, healthlist wrote: I have read that xylitol is very dangerous to dogs and that a couple of pieces of gum with xylitol is enough to severely poison them. I have some at home I have been going to try but haven't yet. On 22/10/2011 5:10 PM, Donna M Lewis wrote: I’ve never tried it, but I’ve heard it should be mixed with Xylitol first. I use it with a nasal spray but I don’t bother with Xylitol, I just spray it direct. Donna From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSneti pot with EIS? Anyone try this? Any potential safety issues? Might be a nice way to clear out the sinuses. David
Re: CSGreen Walnut Hull /Osage Orange in upstate NY
In upstate NY, thorn-apples are low shrubby trees with 1.5 thorns. They tend to take over abandoned pasture land and few creatures will eat them. The only use I've found: a winter branch, sprayed with white or silver paint, makes a fun winter holiday tree if you put gum- drops on each thorn and place branch in a sturdy vase. A great scout project. L On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy wrote: Well, different parts of the country call things different names. Around here, the osage orange tree is called a thorn apple. That is what is. On 10/21/2011 9:11 AM, polo wrote: No, it was never known as a thorn apple. That nickname goes to a poisonous weed that is also known as jimeson weed or more properly datura stramonium. doug - Original Message - From: Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:57 AM Subject: Re: CSGreen Walnut Hull /Osage Orange in upstate NY Some folks call the osage orange a thorn apple, or hedge apple. Maybe you know the tree by another name. Sara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/ maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSiodine question concerning black walnut hulls
The whole walnut. L On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Marshall wrote: Are you suppose to use the whole walnut? I thought you only use the husk. Marshall On 10/20/2011 7:29 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote: I worked for Dr H.R. Clark for several years before she died, and the walnut tenture is made with any strong Alcohol , the more you let it brew, the better stronger it will get. You can always dilute it with distilled water, if it gets too strong -- a little at a time to your liking. Make sure you cover the Black Walnuts with your Alcohol brew also a cloth cover will keep bugs out. Tel Tofflemire www.quailwoodherbal.com On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi all, I just got a bunch of lovely black walnuts: bright green and un- smashed, and have put them in a big glass container covered with vodka (couldn't find grain alcohol). When I googled, the Hulda Clark instructions said to steep for three days. Does anyone know if this is the minimum or some sort of absolute? I tend to try to get more out of things so am tempted to let them sit longer. Also, I know this makes great iodine and I believe iodide as well, but can't find how it compares to Lugol's, which is what I'm accustomed to using (5%) Can anyone here fill in the gaps? Thanks and be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Anthony Cullingworth wrote: It is different for everyone and depends a lot on what you are trying to accomplish and how much detox you need to do. People are using it to fix thyroid problems, to maintain good thyroid health. It is also being used for treatment of Cancers. It is used in every gland and organ in your body and it is proposed by some that most westerns are deficient in it. I personally take 3x drops of Lugol's ( 6.25ml iodine per drop in both KI [potassium iodide] and elemental iodine) along with 2 x drops of SSKI ( Saturated solution potassium iodide = approx. 50mg iodine /drop) I also make sure to take the necessary supplements as well. 2-3g Vit C/ day 200mg Selenium 400-600mg Magnesium 1/4-1/2 of Sea Salt Here are some useful links and also a great email group dedicated to the use of iodine : http://www.lugol-iodinesupplements.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/? v=1t=directorych=webpub=groupssec=dirslk=8 Anthony __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6561 (20111020)__ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSiodine question concerning black walnut hulls
Hi all, I just got a bunch of lovely black walnuts: bright green and un- smashed, and have put them in a big glass container covered with vodka (couldn't find grain alcohol). When I googled, the Hulda Clark instructions said to steep for three days. Does anyone know if this is the minimum or some sort of absolute? I tend to try to get more out of things so am tempted to let them sit longer. Also, I know this makes great iodine and I believe iodide as well, but can't find how it compares to Lugol's, which is what I'm accustomed to using (5%) Can anyone here fill in the gaps? Thanks and be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Anthony Cullingworth wrote: It is different for everyone and depends a lot on what you are trying to accomplish and how much detox you need to do. People are using it to fix thyroid problems, to maintain good thyroid health. It is also being used for treatment of Cancers. It is used in every gland and organ in your body and it is proposed by some that most westerns are deficient in it. I personally take 3x drops of Lugol's ( 6.25ml iodine per drop in both KI [potassium iodide] and elemental iodine) along with 2 x drops of SSKI ( Saturated solution potassium iodide = approx. 50mg iodine /drop) I also make sure to take the necessary supplements as well. 2-3g Vit C/ day 200mg Selenium 400-600mg Magnesium 1/4-1/2 of Sea Salt Here are some useful links and also a great email group dedicated to the use of iodine : http://www.lugol-iodinesupplements.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/? v=1t=directorych=webpub=groupssec=dirslk=8 Anthony __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6561 (20111020) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSiodine question concerning black walnut hulls
Hi Tel, Thanks for the info! That must have been a wonderful experience, working with Dr. Clark! I've weighted the hulls under a glass dish, but a couple floated just above the vodka at the edges of the dish and have oxidised black where the air hit. Have readjusted them. The tincture is darkening, deepening. I covered the big container with saran wrap and then a glass lid. Plan to decant it into the original vodka bottles and stop with some rubber Vacu-vin stoppers to keep air to a minimum. I didn't bother with adding Vitamin C, as I don't care if the tincture is dark. Just want it potent. I've been very stingy with my Lugol's using in in topical roll-ons but not ingesting it. Looking forward to using the tincture. Be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote: I worked for Dr H.R. Clark for several years before she died, and the walnut tenture is made with any strong Alcohol , the more you let it brew, the better stronger it will get. You can always dilute it with distilled water, if it gets too strong -- a little at a time to your liking. Make sure you cover the Black Walnuts with your Alcohol brew also a cloth cover will keep bugs out. Tel Tofflemire www.quailwoodherbal.com On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi all, I just got a bunch of lovely black walnuts: bright green and un- smashed, and have put them in a big glass container covered with vodka (couldn't find grain alcohol). When I googled, the Hulda Clark instructions said to steep for three days. Does anyone know if this is the minimum or some sort of absolute? I tend to try to get more out of things so am tempted to let them sit longer. Also, I know this makes great iodine and I believe iodide as well, but can't find how it compares to Lugol's, which is what I'm accustomed to using (5%) Can anyone here fill in the gaps? Thanks and be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Anthony Cullingworth wrote: It is different for everyone and depends a lot on what you are trying to accomplish and how much detox you need to do. People are using it to fix thyroid problems, to maintain good thyroid health. It is also being used for treatment of Cancers. It is used in every gland and organ in your body and it is proposed by some that most westerns are deficient in it. I personally take 3x drops of Lugol's ( 6.25ml iodine per drop in both KI [potassium iodide] and elemental iodine) along with 2 x drops of SSKI ( Saturated solution potassium iodide = approx. 50mg iodine /drop) I also make sure to take the necessary supplements as well. 2-3g Vit C/ day 200mg Selenium 400-600mg Magnesium 1/4-1/2 of Sea Salt Here are some useful links and also a great email group dedicated to the use of iodine : http://www.lugol-iodinesupplements.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/? v=1t=directorych=webpub=groupssec=dirslk=8 Anthony __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6561 (20111020) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSGreen Walnut Hull
Hi Melly, I spotted them in a ditch on one of our country roads! First thought they were Granny Smith apples, but then realized they were beneath a walnut tree. Went back and gathered the ones that had fallen unbroken into the softer grass. They looked like a bunch of tennis balls. Best to get the ones that are more than 50% green still. They don't seem to rot, but they oxidize black when bruised or cracked and it's the green hull that offeres the best properties for making tincture. Google them so you can see what they're supposed to look like and what to do with them, and then drive around looking for walnut trees. Or you might call your local cooperative extension; they might know where there are local walnut trees and people willing to share. Right now is the time to gather them. Good luck! Be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Lena, Did you buy your green walnut hull? If so, where did you buy it? Thanks. Melly
Re: CSGreen Walnut Hull
No Osage Orange in upstate NY that I know of, and fortunately, I was raised identifying trees so walnut is easy to spot. Thanks. L On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:15 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: Be careful.. Osage Orange 'fruit' looks a little like black walnuts. Very similar but I think the Osage Orange is a little larger than the black walnuts. There is another name for them too, just can't think of it at the moment. Lola On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Hi Melly, I spotted them in a ditch on one of our country roads! First thought they were Granny Smith apples, but then realized they were beneath a walnut tree. Went back and gathered the ones that had fallen unbroken into the softer grass. They looked like a bunch of tennis balls. Best to get the ones that are more than 50% green still. They don't seem to rot, but they oxidize black when bruised or cracked and it's the green hull that offeres the best properties for making tincture. Google them so you can see what they're supposed to look like and what to do with them, and then drive around looking for walnut trees. Or you might call your local cooperative extension; they might know where there are local walnut trees and people willing to share. Right now is the time to gather them. Good luck! Be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Lena, Did you buy your green walnut hull? If so, where did you buy it? Thanks. Melly
Re: CSiodine question concerning black walnut hulls
I just LOVE it! It's so satisfying to amass healing stuff that I can trust, distill my own water, make my own CS, encapsulate my own remedies, mix my own topical roll-ons. A small Brother label machine has made it especially fun. (I used to have confusing, anonymous jars: not so good.) Going on the road for 6 months has forced me to plan ahead and carry what will be hard to get elsewhere. Now I just have to figure out where it'll all fit in the Airstream! (we call it the 'ePod' ; 'e' for escape) Be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote: Yes it was fun working with such a scrapper with the non believers, and Dr Callhan as well who was the head of AZ, and all midwestern states, all except the east coast, Dr Clark had a very open mind and I got her to include Colloidal Silver on her website, along with Lugol's Iodine 5% , Several Zappers, We made the tincture together me in AZ her in San Diego, we compared it by testing it with some instrument she sent me, (I forget the Name) but it could measure the power of the tincture, we both had the same, (she said) I picked wild Black walnuts by the bushel, she picked Wallnuts from a farm. so all is good with both, I see your doing the right things also.. Its fun to make a new thing for Health, huh? Tel On Oct 20, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Tel, Thanks for the info! That must have been a wonderful experience, working with Dr. Clark! I've weighted the hulls under a glass dish, but a couple floated just above the vodka at the edges of the dish and have oxidised black where the air hit. Have readjusted them. The tincture is darkening, deepening. I covered the big container with saran wrap and then a glass lid. Plan to decant it into the original vodka bottles and stop with some rubber Vacu-vin stoppers to keep air to a minimum. I didn't bother with adding Vitamin C, as I don't care if the tincture is dark. Just want it potent. I've been very stingy with my Lugol's using in in topical roll-ons but not ingesting it. Looking forward to using the tincture. Be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote: I worked for Dr H.R. Clark for several years before she died, and the walnut tenture is made with any strong Alcohol , the more you let it brew, the better stronger it will get. You can always dilute it with distilled water, if it gets too strong -- a little at a time to your liking. Make sure you cover the Black Walnuts with your Alcohol brew also a cloth cover will keep bugs out. Tel Tofflemire www.quailwoodherbal.com On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi all, I just got a bunch of lovely black walnuts: bright green and un- smashed, and have put them in a big glass container covered with vodka (couldn't find grain alcohol). When I googled, the Hulda Clark instructions said to steep for three days. Does anyone know if this is the minimum or some sort of absolute? I tend to try to get more out of things so am tempted to let them sit longer. Also, I know this makes great iodine and I believe iodide as well, but can't find how it compares to Lugol's, which is what I'm accustomed to using (5%) Can anyone here fill in the gaps? Thanks and be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Anthony Cullingworth wrote: It is different for everyone and depends a lot on what you are trying to accomplish and how much detox you need to do. People are using it to fix thyroid problems, to maintain good thyroid health. It is also being used for treatment of Cancers. It is used in every gland and organ in your body and it is proposed by some that most westerns are deficient in it. I personally take 3x drops of Lugol's ( 6.25ml iodine per drop in both KI [potassium iodide] and elemental iodine) along with 2 x drops of SSKI ( Saturated solution potassium iodide = approx. 50mg iodine /drop) I also make sure to take the necessary supplements as well. 2-3g Vit C/ day 200mg Selenium 400-600mg Magnesium 1/4-1/2 of Sea Salt Here are some useful links and also a great email group dedicated to the use of iodine : http://www.lugol-iodinesupplements.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/? v=1t=directorych=webpub=groupssec=dirslk=8 Anthony __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6561 (20111020) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSGreen Walnut Hull
Thanks for this link, Polo! You've made me want to get a sapling next spring and see if it could survive up here. We got a red-bud which is thriving, so perhaps. Be well, Léna On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:49 PM, polo wrote: Osage Orange looks nothing like black walnut! The implication here is that Osage orange is to be avoided. May I suggest that the Osage orange is a treasure not fully appreciated. My webspage on the subject: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Wild_Herbs/Osage_Orange/osage_orange.html doug - Original Message - From: phoenix23002 tds.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:15 PM Subject: Re: CSGreen Walnut Hull Be careful.. Osage Orange 'fruit' looks a little like black walnuts. Very similar but I think the Osage Orange is a little larger than the black walnuts. There is another name for them too, just can't think of it at the moment. Lola
Re: CSUrgent...where to get silver in India
When my friend wasn't keeping the feeding-tube formula down the hosp. was giving her and she was dramatically losing weight, I took formula can home and checked its nutritional content in my Nutrion Almanac, and then compared it to the content of fresh carrot juice which she was begging for. The data comparison convinced the hospital staff and she finally gained some weight and energy. They'd sometimes complain when a stray root hair would block the tube, but were impressed with how right her craving had been! No, I don't know what the name of their feed was. This was 35 years ago. Be well, Léna On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:50 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Anyone know of a good alternative to Ensure...which they feed to every dying person in hospitals it seems...High sugar content + candida equals recipe for death. Also, anyone know of a PREMADE zapper type of device that is easy to use to attempt to treat his infected teeth and root canals. I am not going to be able to coordinate with anyone there to get them to make a device, so it needs to come premade. Thanks! David
Re: CSsmart meter
I'd imagine that lessemf.com would probably have something you could use to eliminate the hazard from the meter, if worse comes to worse. I've phoned them and they're pretty helpful and knowledgeable. Be well, Léna On Oct 17, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Dan Nave wrote: You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it. Dan On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote: The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying please do not change my meter . I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said at this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list. Right now I am on their delay list. I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it affects privacy issues. Jess From: Elizabeth Williams Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSsmart meter I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a letter stating that I dont want this smart meter. Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700 Subject: CSsmart meter silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver- l...@eskimo.com; is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects? This morning a utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I live in southern California. I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep problems. The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does anyone know about this subject? thanks, Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsmart meter
Ditto?! Léna On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:38 PM, jaxi wrote: Me too maybe just send to the list. :-) Jaxi On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:25 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote: Please forward. Thanks, Jess From: paul catania Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsmart meter Hi Elizabeth, I'm interested. Thanks in advance, Paul - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Williams To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM Subject: RE: CSsmart meter There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am not affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge. Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it. Dan On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote: The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying please do not change my meter . I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said at this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list. Right now I am on their delay list. I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it affects privacy issues. Jess From: Elizabeth Williams Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSsmart meter I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a letter stating that I dont want this smart meter. Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700 Subject: CSsmart meter silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver- l...@eskimo.com; is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects? This morning a utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I live in southern California. I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep problems. The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does anyone know about this subject? thanks, Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - dementia updates
Whoa! I got excited at the mention of niacinamide, as years ago, it had stopped migraines for me, but when I went to the link it's all about NICOTINAMIDE. Am I missing something? These aren't the same thing, are they? Be well, Léna On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:01 PM, SJY wrote: Thanks for posting the Dr. Williams link, below, advocating the use of niacinamide for treating Alzheimers. Wikipedia has some useful information about niacinamide as well. Here is a Government study of the safety of using niacinamide for treating Alzheimers http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00580931 It was last updated in March this year, so perhaps the study is still on-going. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - dementia updates All, The link below is excellent. This is one to save and print. On 2011/10/02, at 5:12, Dan Nave wrote: Go to http://www.drdavidwilliams.com/legacy/order/pdf/reverse-alzheimers.pdf Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - dementia updates
Ask.com says they're the same too! Now I'll read the link again, with interest. Thanks, Léna On Oct 11, 2011, at 11:22 PM, PTFerrance wrote: According to Wikipedia they are the same but they are known to be inaccurate at times. PT -Original Message- From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - dementia updates Whoa! I got excited at the mention of niacinamide, as years ago, it had stopped migraines for me, but when I went to the link it's all about NICOTINAMIDE. Am I missing something? These aren't the same thing, are they? Be well, Léna On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:01 PM, SJY wrote: Thanks for posting the Dr. Williams link, below, advocating the use of niacinamide for treating Alzheimers. Wikipedia has some useful information about niacinamide as well. Here is a Government study of the safety of using niacinamide for treating Alzheimers http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00580931 It was last updated in March this year, so perhaps the study is still on-going. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - dementia updates All, The link below is excellent. This is one to save and print. On 2011/10/02, at 5:12, Dan Nave wrote: Go to http://www.drdavidwilliams.com/legacy/order/pdf/reverse-alzheimers.pdf Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2090/4546 - Release Date: 10/11/11
Re: CSorthontics
For plantar fasciitis, i found a simple band around the midfoot (bought at Walmart) helped keep the fascia flexed so they wouldnt stiffen and hurt. For tendonitis, i found a rubber wrap that winds around the midfoot and heel to do the same thing for the achilles tendon. It's buried in the rig at the moment. If i can dig it out I'll let you know the name of the company that makes it. Léna On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all, for all you folk that posted about plantar fascillitus/ tendonitis using orthontics; can you tell me which type you used as there seems to be quite a range of products available. Many thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - lymphatics
Not to be cynical about the deplorable state of our national infrastructure, but when I'm on the road, I don't worry about leaving my WBV or rebounder home; the rough ride moves the lymph quite nicely. Be well, Léna On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy wrote: a rebounder is great in that situation. For actual exercise, jumping, lifting feet off the rebounder kind of movement you need an expensive rebounder, not the cheapie kinds, or you can damage your feet and knees. But, for moving lymphatics all you need to do is sit on the rebounder and let your body move enough for a gentle rocking. It is effective for moving lymph. An even better alternative is getting one of the bigger outdoor trampolines, and sit on it while a friend jumps. Sara On 9/16/2011 10:09 PM, PTFerrance wrote: I know the best way to move lymphatics is to exercise but for someone who cannot do that very well does anyone have any alternative suggestions. I know someone in this situation and would like to be able to offer some suggestions. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - lymphatics
Isn't lymphedema where people must wear pressure sleeves? I think that's an extreme that goes beyond a rebounder. L On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Smitty wrote: I know someone with lymphedema. Would a rebounder help ? Smitty On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Not to be cynical about the deplorable state of our national infrastructure, but when I'm on the road, I don't worry about leaving my WBV or rebounder home; the rough ride moves the lymph quite nicely. Be well, Léna On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy wrote: a rebounder is great in that situation. For actual exercise, jumping, lifting feet off the rebounder kind of movement you need an expensive rebounder, not the cheapie kinds, or you can damage your feet and knees. But, for moving lymphatics all you need to do is sit on the rebounder and let your body move enough for a gentle rocking. It is effective for moving lymph. An even better alternative is getting one of the bigger outdoor trampolines, and sit on it while a friend jumps. Sara On 9/16/2011 10:09 PM, PTFerrance wrote: I know the best way to move lymphatics is to exercise but for someone who cannot do that very well does anyone have any alternative suggestions. I know someone in this situation and would like to be able to offer some suggestions. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsun burn
Virgin coconut oil is good, and I've used a burn lotion that had lavender oil in it which was amazing. Can't remember the brand. Léna On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Smitty wrote: I have a friend who over exposed herself on the beach sunburned her legs badly. I gave her some CS water, but it didn't help. Does anyone on the list have any home remedies for sunburn ? Thanks, Smitty
Re: CSheel spurs
Hi Lola, Your words are encouraging. I'm hoping both the ganglion cyst in my thumb and the remaining tendonitis in my calves will respond well to shark cartilage. At the moment I've only got Solgar 750 mg. and we're about to be on the road, so anything I order won't be available to me until we return in a couple weeks. (Living in the boonies has its challenges.) What was the mg content of your Lane Labs capsules? I'm just trying to get an idea of how many of what I've presently got would perhaps help, as I don't want to wait until my return to tackle this. Thanks for your info and success story. Be well, Léna On Sep 13, 2011, at 7:00 PM, phoenix23002 tds.net wrote: II had this problem (plantar fasciitis/tendonitis) about 10 - 15 yrs ago. My family doctor was useless but he tried to help me. I had it for about two years and was in misery. Using my foot first thing in the am was horrendously painful. Couldn't even put weight on it most of the time. Meanwhile, I heard about shark cartilage and how anti-inflammatory it is and it was like a miracle. It took about 2 - 4 wks to clear up completely but wow !! I even made a cream/paste (with lanolin) out of the shark cartilage to put on the botton of my foot in addition to taking 12 - 16 caps x day. I would use only Lane Labs brand of shark cartilage. It is a little pricey but, hopefully, you won't need to take it forever just a few weeks. Another great generic healer is castor oil packs. That works on so many things. Good Luck, Lola On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: The lady that introduced me to them was a brit. Orthotics are a very simple concept. Basically an arch support with a heel cup made to fit the foot not under weight pressure. When the weight is applied the heel doesn't spread out. Trem On 9/13/2011 10:50 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks for this Trem, I will look into this for him, but i will be surprised if I can get anything like it here in the UK! dee On 13 Sep 2011, at 16:34, Trem wrote: My heels bothered me all my life and whenever I bought any shoes I would usually look for the ones with crepe soles. I think they were called desert boots. Whenever I went to the mall or shopping with my wife I always looked for the Mens Sitting Chair wherever we stopped. And always walked on any carpet in stores if possible. One day I was trying some shoes on and the saleslady ss I was uncomfortable. As soon as I told her about the sore heels she showed me her orthotics and said she'd been using them for years. That was about 15 or more years ago. Went to a chiropodist, got fitted and still use the same ones. A few years later had him make me a second pair so I wasn't always juggling them between shoes. Best money I ever spent on health. Trem -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectArchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3894 - Release Date: 09/13/11
Re: CScs and Lyme disease
Uh, David, You've trimmed this post too much. Are you referring to CS? If so, yes, I've used CS almost from the beginning, bought my Silver Puppy about 4 years ago. But with Rifing and SC as my primary killing protocols, I've used CS more as back-up and for full moon/seasonal flares, as I'm still leery of the possibility of encysting. I want the critters out where my other protocols can get 'em. I generally use it for topical delivery, to rinse my mouth, hair, for wounds, whatever cold/bugs are going around. When I'm going to be with small children, I take some, and find that it sometimes wards off contagion. I also use it on produce, and after throughly cleaning out jars, I swish some around for an added cleaning. Be well, Léna On Sep 10, 2011, at 9:54 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Hi Lena, Havent you used it on lyme before? ~David
Re: CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula
Thanks! On Sep 10, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Gayla Roberts wrote: Cayenne was one of Dr Christopher's favorite-favorites. My boyfriend used his eyedrops for a while trying to battle macular degeneration. They sting, but do not harn the eye. Gayla - Original Message - From: Guyot Léna To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 4:55 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula ok, Chuck, NOW you've go my attention! CAYENNE!!!? I use cayenne on my joints and aches and pains, but when i have the misfortune to accidentally get some on my finger and then into the eye it's scary hurty! I add MSM to CS, and when uveitis flares, I add a little DMSO, but haven't yet done cayenne. I also have eyebright tincture. Would that do? Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 6:23 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: My personal Daily eyedrop formula is exactly that; MSM dissolved to saturation IN 1 oz of colloidal silver, approx 15 drops of Shultzes Eyebright with cayenne formula, tsp DMSO Been using this for several years. My ophthalmologist is baffled that a slight cataract has never progressed. Chuck Preliminary operational tests were inconclusive (the damn thing blew up) On 9/9/2011 11:59:27 AM, Marshall (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: I really have no experience on this specific topic, and thus cannot really provide any scientifically experience grounded advise. However I am reluctant to put EIS or CS in the eye over the long term. Although unlikely to produce any argyria, if it did, the effect on the vision could be so severe that I would only use it occasionally personally for things like pink eye or a sty. Marshall On 9/9/2011 11:34 AM, Sandee George wrote: Hi There Marshall - I have been mixing the above with MSM and having no problems - however I would like to get your opinion about changing from MSM to EIS - do you see a problem in doing this ? Thanks in advance Sandee Attitude is everything !! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs and Lyme disease
I use CS topically every day, and drink it whenever I've been in contact with anyone elses' germs. I generate my own, so I use it lavishly, to rinse produce, clean surfaces, and as base for my many potions and lotions. My right h and and thumb is painful tonight. Can't type much. Be well, Léna On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Rod Samuelson wrote: I got very few replies on using CS against Lyme. More replies please. Rod Samuelson 860-881-3734 cell new email address rsamuels...@cox.net From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs and Lyme disease 6 months 15-18 ppm when i made my own Plus took meso silver for 3 months I drank about 16 oz's a day on average maybe helped a little bit Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 Skype: steelbone72 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: Rodney Samuelson rsamuels...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:45 PM Subject: CScs and Lyme disease I have really started using CS and make my own using silver gen. I want to gather some data. For those using it for Lyme disease only please comment. What PPM is the cs? Do you feel like you have had real help against Lyme? How many months did you take it to get some real help? Rod samuelson
Re: CSRe: Soap Nuts, Soap w/o glycerine for teeth
Yes, unfortunately, as I was cutting away the end of the wrapper last night, I noticed the footnote about glycerine being a by-product of saponifying. sigh. Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:39 PM, jaxi wrote: Dr Bronner's does ... but it is what is naturally made through the saponifying of the oils. It says it on the labels. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Thanks Melly, The day got away from me so I haven't done my boil yet. Hope to tomorrow. BTW, I think this thread began about using soap for cleaning teeth, as it removes the film that regular toothpaste leaves and impedes the tooth's natural tendency to remineralize. The was discussion about finding soap without glycerine and today I discovered that Dr. Bronner's soap bar has none! Yay! I got the almond: figured it would taste better. Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Lena, I came upon an article today that said use 10 nuts to 4 cups of water. The 10 nuts in 2 cups of water, then reduced to 1 cup, came out a bit thick and was very bubbly, a concentrate. Then when i added the other teas from previously boiled nuts, it became watery and hardly any bubble. But i still added the wrinkle removing allantoin, aloe vera and urea. It still worked, had to rinse it though. PT, Thanks for the suggestions. I am reluctant to add honey because there are so many ants outside the house due to drought. I don't want them coming inside due to the honey's smell. Melly --- On Thu, 9/8/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
I would love to find that to be true, because micro-waving is so convenient. I realize now that the experiments with plants back in the day may have had more to do with the response of the water of which they were composed, than the plants, themselves. So I wonder, also if there could be a way of remediating microwave damage of other foods, like vegs, etc. Be well, Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Marshall wrote: In the tests I am running tomorrow with the pendents and orgonite, I have 3 jars with distilled water with words written on them: Love, Hate and Fear. Those should be part of the plots I should have tomorrow. Lots of things can restructure water, including microwaves. I need to test that as well, as I suspect simply blessing the water might easily eliminate any adverse structuring. Marshall On 9/8/2011 10:11 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Marshall, This experiment you're running is fascinating! If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading 'The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a scientist who found that taping hostile or loving messages to a water jug would affect the symmetry or distortion of subsequent frozen crystals from those jugs. It was a small scientific paper that went viral and was republished (two vol.s I think) for the general public. His finding on micro-waved water has cured me of heating my tea water that way! Be well, Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Marshall wrote: I am planning on rerunning those tests next week. At that time I was using 2 matched vials, and had done the reiki with the water in the vial. Big mistake, it totally screwed up the vial, so it no longer was matched to the other one. The replacement cost was something like $100, and I ended up getting a reiki master to come over and clear both the vials so they matched again. When I rerun it I will use the same vial for both the baseline and the sample, and will NOT do the prayer or reiki on water in the vial, but in a jelly jar then pour it into the vial, like I just did on the tests today. That way it should have no effect on the vial quartz at all. I am considering the possibility that the reiki and prayer were actually very similar, but because reiki screwed up the vial that maybe the baseline for the prayer was run with, it might be a problem that the vials no longer matched, one of them had an absorption pattern like the water after reiki did. At the time I ran those tests I did not realize the vial had gotten messed up by the reiki, but did later when I ran some more tests. Thus I really have no idea if that is a factor or not, and thus am wanting to rerun the test. I should know in the next few days. Right now I am running tests with a number of pendents and orgonite to see what effect their energy has on the water. Marshall On 9/8/2011 9:27 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Got it. Thanks. I think it would be interesting to see the result of reiki plus prayer (especially by Donna), as they almost exactly would be expected to cancel out. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspectrographs of CS healing with H2O
Thanks Lois,
I'll check that out. sounds great!
Be well,
Léna
On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:42 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/9/2011 12:27:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drumr...@stny.rr.com
writes:
This experiment you're running is fascinating!
If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading
'The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto,
See if you can find the book Water Crystal Healing--Music Images
To Restore Your Well-Being by Masaru Emoto...I got 3 copies --1 for
each of my children--used-- on Alibris.com for 99 cents each...The
book has 2 CDs with music aimed at the body {we are electrically
charged mostly water.so makes sense the vibrations work. }..I play
them lots...{ Esp like track 2--The Blue Danube { while your
listening your central nervous system, which may have withered due to
habitual constraint, {can't eat ice cream any more } will be
revitalized. Your heart will open your body will feel relaxed
there is more on the page-The pic of your water crystals in the
body is there also.. Lois { fast fingers again sorry }
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
If the power of energy can do this, it can undo this. Perhaps, if you hold the intent that your own energy remain neutral (just this once, for the highest benefit), things might change. As a Reiki master, when I send Reiki I always intend that it only be received if the sendee is willing. (In short, I have 'my people' talk to 'their people'.) I can feel the difference by the energy flow, if it is blocked at the other end. You might also want to contact Masaru Emoto. I'm sure he'd be delighted to talk with you! Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Marshall wrote: I did the first run. Ran into a big problem. I ran a baseline on distilled water, tested it as a sample to verify the baseline was stable and after running the sequence of 10 samples, ran the baseline again as a sample. The second time I ran the distilled water baseline, it showed that the water was structured! So I had to throw out all the previous measurements. I thought it must be some type of instrument instability. I started running the experiment again, running a baseline before each sample. But when I did that each sample after the first one showed the curve the wrong way and getting bigger each time. I finally figured out that since I have healing hands which continually put off healing energy, simply handling the samples and the baseline water were structuring the water, basically turning it into Holy water or something similar. That is I am adding my energy signature to each sample when handling and pouring each one from the jelly jar to the measurement vial. It is also possible that the signature is being impressed on the quartz vial as well, I know this is possible because of my experience earlier with a vial getting messed up by having Reiki done on it. Also quartz is known for holding energy patterns and programming. I am stumped now. It appears that all the samples that I had left overnight are now contaminated by my energy signature. I will have to think about what to do. I will definitely have to rerun the experiment with fresh water. I may have to find someone who is not emitting energy to do the handling for me. this time. If anyone has any ideas on how to get around this please let me know. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
No, but I'll look it up! Thanks! Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 2:01 PM, PTFerrance wrote: Hi Lena, Have you read the book Hire the Heavens. PT From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSspectrographs of CS If the power of energy can do this, it can undo this. Perhaps, if you hold the intent that your own energy remain neutral (just this once, for the highest benefit), things might change. As a Reiki master, when I send Reiki I always intend that it only be received if the sendee is willing. (In short, I have 'my people' talk to 'their people'.) I can feel the difference by the energy flow, if it is blocked at the other end. You might also want to contact Masaru Emoto. I'm sure he'd be delighted to talk with you! Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Marshall wrote: I did the first run. Ran into a big problem. I ran a baseline on distilled water, tested it as a sample to verify the baseline was stable and after running the sequence of 10 samples, ran the baseline again as a sample. The second time I ran the distilled water baseline, it showed that the water was structured! So I had to throw out all the previous measurements. I thought it must be some type of instrument instability. I started running the experiment again, running a baseline before each sample. But when I did that each sample after the first one showed the curve the wrong way and getting bigger each time. I finally figured out that since I have healing hands which continually put off healing energy, simply handling the samples and the baseline water were structuring the water, basically turning it into Holy water or something similar. That is I am adding my energy signature to each sample when handling and pouring each one from the jelly jar to the measurement vial. It is also possible that the signature is being impressed on the quartz vial as well, I know this is possible because of my experience earlier with a vial getting messed up by having Reiki done on it. Also quartz is known for holding energy patterns and programming. I am stumped now. It appears that all the samples that I had left overnight are now contaminated by my energy signature. I will have to think about what to do. I will definitely have to rerun the experiment with fresh water. I may have to find someone who is not emitting energy to do the handling for me. this time. If anyone has any ideas on how to get around this please let me know. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3886 - Release Date: 09/09/11
