CSEIS/CS and H2O2 question
I produced some EIS/CS and immediately after production, I decided to add a 3% H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) solution to it drop by drop. As I kept on adding the drops, it went from golden yellow to cloudy white. As I continued dropping the H2O2 solution to this cloudy white, whatever it was, it gradually got clearer and eventually to totally clear, no yellow, no white but clear like purified water. I let it stand in a borosilicate container and it remained this way for weeks. However I eventually spilled away the solution, but out of curiosity would anyone think about it and tell me what might have happened? regards Tani
CSEIS
Marshall, Of course you are right, i made a mistake of saying Ph meter. So do you put the PWT into the solution, or do you get some out of it and measure from the latter. Thanks for your reply on long storage of EIS. Melly
CSEIS
If brewed EIS has been in storage for a while and some sediments fell to the bottom, is that still ok to ingest/use? Thanks. Melly
Re: CSEIS
Normally that is not a problem. But you might want to check the Tyndall to verify there is still CS in the water. Marshall On 10/12/2012 12:25 PM, Melly Bag wrote: If brewed EIS has been in storage for a while and some sediments fell to the bottom, is that still ok to ingest/use? Thanks. Melly No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5327 - Release Date: 10/12/12
CSEIS /CS antidote for biowarfare weapons?
Sorry, i forgot to paste the patent. Isn't hydrogen peroxide an oxidant? Maybe H202 combined with EIS will work just as well? Melly = Is patent 5,336,499 the general antidote for all bio warfare weapons? i.e. is it the cure for Lyme?United States Patent 5,336,499 AntelmanAugust 9, 1994 Molecular crystal device for pharmaceuticals Abstract A novel molecular scale device is described which is bactericidal, fungicidal, viricidal and algicidal. The anti-pathogenic properties of the device are attributed to electron activity indigenous to diamagnetic semiconducting crystals of tetrasilver tetroxide (Ag.sub.4 O.sub.4) which contains two monovalent and two trivalent silver ions in each molecular crystal. When the crystals are activated with an oxidizing agent, they release electrons equivalent to 6.4.times.10. sup.-19 watts per molecule which in effect electrocute pathogens. A multitude of these devices are effective at such low concentrations as 0.3 PPM used as preservatives in a variety of formulations ranging from cosmetics to pharmaceuticals. Indeed, they are intended as active ingredients for pharmaceuticals formulated to destroy such pathogens as Staphylococcus aureus, and epidermidis, the latter of which it completely destroys in a nutrient broth culture of about 1 million organisms at 0.6 PPM, or Candida albercans, the vaginal yeast infection at 2.5 PPM, and the AIDS virus at 18 PPM. Inventors: Antelman; Marvin S. (Rehovot, IL) Assignee: Antelman Technologies, Ltd. (Providence, RI) Appl. No.: 07/971,933 Filed: November 5, 1992
CSEIS for Heartworm
My two guys have had heartworm for at least 6 mos to a year. I'm giving them tinctures of Black Walnut Hull and Wormwood, along with Guiness black label beer and Garlic. They don't look or act like they have heartworm. But I had them tested today, and they still have them.. question is will EIS help with this problem... they each weigh around 70 lbs.. -- *PLEASE remove ALL names and email addresses before forwarding; and send only as BLIND CARBON COPY (Bcc). Erasing the addresses helps prevent SPAMMERS from mining the addresses and propagating VIRUSES and reduces the possibility of identity theft.* Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSEIS for Heartworm
I don't think it will help, but could be wrong. Marshall On 12/10/2011 4:17 PM, Day Sutton wrote: My two guys have had heartworm for at least 6 mos to a year. I'm giving them tinctures of Black Walnut Hull and Wormwood, along with Guiness black label beer and Garlic. They don't look or act like they have heartworm. But I had them tested today, and they still have them.. question is will EIS help with this problem... they each weigh around 70 lbs.. -- */PLEASE remove ALL names and email addresses before forwarding; and send only as BLIND CARBON COPY (Bcc). Erasing the addresses helps prevent SPAMMERS from mining the addresses and propagating VIRUSES and reduces the possibility of identity theft./* Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSEIS for Heartworm
Marshall wrote: I don't think it will help, but could be wrong. I don't have the reference but a friend who researched this told me there is a particular bacterial infection that is associated with heartworms. So while CS may not have any direct effect at all on the heartworms, it should be quite helpful with what might be called the bacterial co-infection. This is from my memory, so I suggest anyone interested in the heartworm bacterial co-infection or whatever it should be called do some research on it. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS for Heartworm
From what I've read, the Guiness Draught in the black bottle (imported from Ireland, not the Guiness Black Labe from Canada) will sterilize the heartworms so they can't replicate. i think if there's an activeinfection, it must be given once a week for a month, then maintenance of once a month, but i don't know the dosage for 70lb dogs. (Mine is 12 lbs) Léna On Dec 10, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Marshall wrote: I don't think it will help, but could be wrong. Marshall On 12/10/2011 4:17 PM, Day Sutton wrote: My two guys have had heartworm for at least 6 mos to a year. I'm giving them tinctures of Black Walnut Hull and Wormwood, along with Guiness black label beer and Garlic. They don't look or act like they have heartworm. But I had them tested today, and they still have them.. question is will EIS help with this problem... they each weigh around 70 lbs.. -- PLEASE remove ALL names and email addresses before forwarding; and send only as BLIND CARBON COPY (Bcc). Erasing the addresses helps prevent SPAMMERS from mining the addresses and propagating VIRUSES and reduces the possibility of identity theft. Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSEIS for Heartworm
I'm giving mine 2oz each with their kibble daily. On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: From what I've read, the Guiness Draught in the black bottle (imported from Ireland, not the Guiness Black Labe from Canada) will sterilize the heartworms so they can't replicate. i think if there's an activeinfection, it must be given once a week for a month, then maintenance of once a month, but i don't know the dosage for 70lb dogs. (Mine is 12 lbs) Léna On Dec 10, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Marshall wrote: I don't think it will help, but could be wrong. Marshall On 12/10/2011 4:17 PM, Day Sutton wrote: My two guys have had heartworm for at least 6 mos to a year. I'm giving them tinctures of Black Walnut Hull and Wormwood, along with Guiness black label beer and Garlic. They don't look or act like they have heartworm. But I had them tested today, and they still have them.. question is will EIS help with this problem... they each weigh around 70 lbs.. -- *PLEASE remove ALL names and email addresses before forwarding; and send only as BLIND CARBON COPY (Bcc). Erasing the addresses helps prevent SPAMMERS from mining the addresses and propagating VIRUSES and reduces the possibility of identity theft.* Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- *PLEASE remove ALL names and email addresses before forwarding; and send only as BLIND CARBON COPY (Bcc). Erasing the addresses helps prevent SPAMMERS from mining the addresses and propagating VIRUSES and reduces the possibility of identity theft.* Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
My wife (and numerous local friends) who has Chronic Lyme disease takes 12 ounces a day of 12ppm homemade CS and uses a DP100 rife machine a couple times a week. It has kept her symptoms in remission. If she goes off it (say for 3 or 4 weeks on vacation) she notices symptoms returning. Scott Adams www.lyme-resource.com http://www.lyme-resource.com/ You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams _ From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:18 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post. About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis through infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we had. The doctor I went to at the top of the acute stage of the diseases, diagnosed me measles and neumonitis and prescribed all kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or Oxytetratracyclin. As a consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need to find a solution, I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human Ehrlichiosis. He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of them a Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor. The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately they prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving. Nevetheless, since by then the diseases had become chronic, after several months they relapsed with the accompanying extreme fatigue, mental confusion, vertigo, an many common symptoms. I tried different other antibiotics with the same relapsing results. Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of the members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to make my own generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a very good quality product. After beginning its use, the improvements in my condition were evident. In a short time I was consuming around 700-800 ml/day, in small quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day) of a concentration of around 16 ppm. After all symptoms had disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of around 350 ml/day, about 12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using EIS/CS. I was for around 6 years totally free of symptoms. About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for many months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms again. I immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above 1 lier/day of EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product there in no danger whatsoever of argyria. This time the measles-looking rash and the strong itching all over my skin (specially on my chest and forearms) has not yet subsided, to the contrary, it got even worse for a couple of weeks (Herxheimer reaction?) It has been slowly improving. Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not Borrelia burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the treatments are almost identical, this time I am planning to try in parallel MMS. Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis? Thanks and regards to all. Carlos _ Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700 Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would probably try some. ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: there's a few folks around here like you're looking for... but please share your interesting results with the list? i know i'd like to read them. _ From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
The complete protocol of Bob Beck DSci might be of value. It includes EIS, blood electrification, ozonated water, and magnetic pulsing. At least one member on this list has experience with the complete protocol. A company called SOTA Instruments, based in Canda, sells the needed equipment and has been in business for a long time. (They make no health claims, which is how they have managed to stay in business.) On 2011/04/14, at 8:18, Carlos Pérez wrote: Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post. About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis through infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we had. The doctor I went to at the top of the acute stage of the diseases, diagnosed me measles and neumonitis and prescribed all kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or Oxytetratracyclin. As a consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need to find a solution, I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human Ehrlichiosis. He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of them a Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor. The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately they prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving. Nevetheless, since by then the diseases had become chronic, after several months they relapsed with the accompanying extreme fatigue, mental confusion, vertigo, an many common symptoms. I tried different other antibiotics with the same relapsing results. Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of the members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to make my own generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a very good quality product. After beginning its use, the improvements in my condition were evident. In a short time I was consuming around 700-800 ml/day, in small quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day) of a concentration of around 16 ppm. After all symptoms had disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of around 350 ml/day, about 12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using EIS/CS. I was for around 6 years totally free of symptoms. About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for many months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms again. I immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above 1 lier/day of EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product there in no danger whatsoever of argyria. This time the measles-looking rash and the strong itching all over my skin (specially on my chest and forearms) has not yet subsided, to the contrary, it got even worse for a couple of weeks (Herxheimer reaction?) It has been slowly improving. Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not Borrelia burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the treatments are almost identical, this time I am planning to try in parallel MMS. Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis? Thanks and regards to all. Carlos Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700 Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would probably try some. ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: there's a few folks around here like you're looking for... but please share your interesting results with the list? i know i'd like to read them. From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
There is the Frex group where you could download frequencies to correspond with the frequencies of the spirochetes, etc. Read up on www.heal-me.com.au . Energy medicine via computer assisted diagnosis and homeopathic preparations which deliver the appropriate remedy as determined and imprinted by the results of the scan. An appropriate websearch might turn up practitioners in your locality. The one I go to in Australia is www.taracentre.com.au which might have links or lists of international practitioners. **Electro-Dermal Screening http://tarahealthcentre.com.au/Services/Ev-methods/ElectroDS.htm** Electro-Dermal Screening is a method of evaluating health by taking a series of readings of electrical conductivity on a number of specific points on the skin, usually on the fingers and toes.These points are connected energetically to the major organ meridians of the body and the readings obtained indicate levels of stress in those systems.This approach, which originated in Germany in the early 1950's helps determine the most effective remedies. By monitoring these readings it becomes possible to follow the body's progress towards improved health. Homoeopathic and isopathic remedies, flower essences, nutritional supplementation and other natural remedies are selected on an individual basis according to each person's current needs. Godzilla (6 v battery DIY device) on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post. About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis through infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we had. The doctor I went to at the top of the acute stage of the diseases, diagnosed me measles and neumonitis and prescribed all kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or Oxytetratracyclin. As a consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need to find a solution, I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human Ehrlichiosis. He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of them a Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor. The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately they prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving. Nevetheless, since by then the diseases had become chronic, after several months they relapsed with the accompanying extreme fatigue, mental confusion, vertigo, an many common symptoms. I tried different other antibiotics with the same relapsing results. Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of the members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to make my own generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a very good quality product. After beginning its use, the improvements in my condition were evident. In a short time I was consuming around 700-800 ml/day, in small quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day) of a concentration of around 16 ppm. After all symptoms had disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of around 350 ml/day, about 12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using EIS/CS. I was for around 6 years totally free of symptoms. About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for many months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms again. I immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above 1 lier/day of EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product there in no danger whatsoever of argyria. This time the measles-looking rash and the strong itching all over my skin (specially on my chest and forearms) has not yet subsided, to the contrary, it got even worse for a couple of weeks (Herxheimer reaction?) It has been slowly improving. Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not Borrelia burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the treatments are almost identical, this time I am planning to try in parallel MMS. Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis? Thanks and regards to all. Carlos Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700 Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would probably try some. ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: there's a few folks around here like you're looking for... but please share your interesting results with the list? i know i'd like to read them. From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
My particular Lyme was scanned by freauencyfoundation.com as having the full complement of Plum Island Lyme co-infections, which included Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsia. Rifing, along with salt and C protocol, resolved them. Be well, Léna On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Carlos Pérez wrote: Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post. About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis through infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we had. The doctor I went to at the top of the acute stage of the diseases, diagnosed me measles and neumonitis and prescribed all kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or Oxytetratracyclin. As a consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need to find a solution, I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human Ehrlichiosis. He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of them a Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor. The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately they prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving. Nevetheless, since by then the diseases had become chronic, after several months they relapsed with the accompanying extreme fatigue, mental confusion, vertigo, an many common symptoms. I tried different other antibiotics with the same relapsing results. Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of the members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to make my own generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a very good quality product. After beginning its use, the improvements in my condition were evident. In a short time I was consuming around 700-800 ml/day, in small quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day) of a concentration of around 16 ppm. After all symptoms had disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of around 350 ml/day, about 12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using EIS/CS. I was for around 6 years totally free of symptoms. About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for many months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms again. I immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above 1 lier/day of EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product there in no danger whatsoever of argyria. This time the measles- looking rash and the strong itching all over my skin (specially on my chest and forearms) has not yet subsided, to the contrary, it got even worse for a couple of weeks (Herxheimer reaction?) It has been slowly improving. Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not Borrelia burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the treatments are almost identical, this time I am planning to try in parallel MMS. Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis? Thanks and regards to all. Carlos Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700 Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would probably try some. ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: there's a few folks around here like you're looking for... but please share your interesting results with the list? i know i'd like to read them. From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
sorry: it's frequencyfoundation.com On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: My particular Lyme was scanned by freauencyfoundation.com as having the full complement of Plum Island Lyme co-infections, which included Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsia. Rifing, along with salt and C protocol, resolved them. Be well, Léna On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Carlos Pérez wrote: Hello, Bob and other friends interested in my post. About 10 years ago, I contracted Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis through infected ticks from German Shepherd dogs in a goat farm we had. The doctor I went to at the top of the acute stage of the diseases, diagnosed me measles and neumonitis and prescribed all kinds of medicines except Doxicyclin or Oxytetratracyclin. As a consequence, I almost died, and in my extreme need to find a solution, I happened to find a veterinarian who was treating human Ehrlichiosis. He was part of a group also integrated by two ladies, one of them a Bioanalist and the other one a Medical Doctor. The Bioanalist made several tests and diagnosed correctly. Immediately they prescribed Doxicycline and symptoms started improving. Nevetheless, since by then the diseases had become chronic, after several months they relapsed with the accompanying extreme fatigue, mental confusion, vertigo, an many common symptoms. I tried different other antibiotics with the same relapsing results. Finally, I was lucky to find this list and, with the help of many of the members, I learned very much about EIS/CS, also learned how to make my own generator, and after a brief period of time I could make a very good quality product. After beginning its use, the improvements in my condition were evident. In a short time I was consuming around 700-800 ml/day, in small quantities at a time (20-25 small sips/day) of a concentration of around 16 ppm. After all symptoms had disappeared, y came to a maintenance doses of around 350 ml/day, about 12 ppm, and after around a year I stopped using EIS/CS. I was for around 6 years totally free of symptoms. About 2 months ago, after being overworked and without enough rest for many months, my immune system was weakened and I got the symptoms again. I immediately began my treatment, going in a few days to above 1 lier/day of EIS.. I am convinced that with a good quality product there in no danger whatsoever of argyria. This time the measles- looking rash and the strong itching all over my skin (specially on my chest and forearms) has not yet subsided, to the contrary, it got even worse for a couple of weeks (Herxheimer reaction?) It has been slowly improving. Since in my chronic case the bacteria are probably hiding in almost inaccessible places, and even though they are Rickettsiae and not Borrelia burgdorferi´s Spyroquettes, since the symptoms and the treatments are almost identical, this time I am planning to try in parallel MMS. Any suggestions? Anyone out there with experience treating chronic Rickettsiosis/Ehrlichiosis? Thanks and regards to all. Carlos Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:17 -0700 Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would probably try some. ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: there's a few folks around here like you're looking for... but please share your interesting results with the list? i know i'd like to read them. From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS mixed with sugar water
Any time you contaminate CS you likely make photo-reactive compounds. Hummingbirds also eat bugs and seeds..then hang out at the energy bar. ode At 11:29 AM 3/21/2011 -0400, you wrote: We put up a humming bird feeder last week. Normally you have to change the sugar water in it every couple of days because it will ferment. I figured that if I used colloidal silver to make the sugar water, it should not ferment. I was surprised that shortly after making the nectar it turned somewhat dark, like there was aggregation of the silver. However, even after 5 days, it is still in suspension, so I am somewhat confused. Also I am concerned that it might cause problems for the humming bird, if it kills the bacteria necessary for digestion. I think others have given CS to their birds without any problem, but since a hummingbird eats nectar almost exclusively, their digestion might be more like a honeybee than most birds. Any comments? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS mixed with sugar water
Hi Marshall, Send your question here-:_HummingbirdHobnob : Post Message_ (http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/HummingbirdHobnob/post) This site is a wealth of hummingbird info. ,. Lois We put up a humming bird feeder last week. Normally you have to change the sugar water in it every couple of days because it will ferment. I figured that if I used colloidal silver to make the sugar water, it should not ferment. I was surprised that shortly after making the nectar it turned somewhat dark, like there was aggregation of the silver. However, even after 5 days, it is still in suspension, so I am somewhat confused. Also I am concerned that it might cause problems for the humming bird, if it kills the bacteria necessary for digestion. I think others have given CS to their birds without any problem, but since a hummingbird eats nectar almost exclusively, their digestion might be more like a honeybee than most birds. Any comments? Marshall
Re: CSEIS mixed with sugar water
Perhaps, it is contamination in the sugar. Pure sucrose should not react with CS at all. It must have a few ppm of some type of salt in it. Thinking about the old method of putting a silver dollar into milk to make it keep longer, I am thinking of using pure sugar water, but putting 3 or 4 feet of 14 gauge silver wire into the feeder instead. That just might keep it from fermenting, yet not put a significant amount of silver into the nectar. You know they make socks and washing machines with silver in them. I wonder if silver plating the inside of these feeders might be a good idea to prevent the fermentation of the nectar. Marshall On 3/22/2011 8:19 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: Any time you contaminate CS you likely make photo-reactive compounds. Hummingbirds also eat bugs and seeds..then hang out at the energy bar. ode At 11:29 AM 3/21/2011 -0400, you wrote: We put up a humming bird feeder last week. Normally you have to change the sugar water in it every couple of days because it will ferment. I figured that if I used colloidal silver to make the sugar water, it should not ferment. I was surprised that shortly after making the nectar it turned somewhat dark, like there was aggregation of the silver. However, even after 5 days, it is still in suspension, so I am somewhat confused. Also I am concerned that it might cause problems for the humming bird, if it kills the bacteria necessary for digestion. I think others have given CS to their birds without any problem, but since a hummingbird eats nectar almost exclusively, their digestion might be more like a honeybee than most birds. Any comments? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
FYI, the word jello is code word for silver. If you google phrases in these references, you can find the original sources: http://scientificliving.net/2011/02/the-ultimate-guide-to-colloidal-silver-colloidal-silver-generators-and-jello-2/#has-the-use-of-eis-ever-been-professionally-documented On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:21 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: this is the first i've read of the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. anywhere to read more about it? i can see myself wearing a power pack like when i was using a beck blood electrifier. add in bluetooth hanging on my ear and i am borg. resistance was futile. about the strongest i've been able to get CS with re-brewing over and over again is about 65ppm when it settles down. tired, too lazy to do the math right now, but what volume of 65ppm would it take to raise the plasma level... what is it on average, something like 8 liters in the body? if so, guesstimating, wouldn't it take something like 1.5 or more liters ? seems like it would be dangerous to thin out the blood with so much water quickly, even a drip over a couple days? and the longer it takes to deliver in, the more it takes cuz the CS is processed out so quickly?l with the TT it's easy to shoot a high concentration in one syringe... probably only 10cc or something? i can't take risks with myself while i'm responsible for taking care of my ma, but after she dies i can. but i believe she's getting better now and might last another decade... jeez, that'd kill me in the process, but that's the deal i guess. From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get 10ppm in the blood by IV. Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site. Including protocols involving oral use. Most significantly are protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. ~David On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm. impossible. duh. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Early Lyme is easily cured with a small amount of CS. Cronic Lyme is much more difficult but not impossible. The problem is that it finds some really good hiding places. A number of people have claimed a complete cure from chronic Lyme using the full Bob Beck protocol. Marshall On 3/19/2011 8:19 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote: I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it. My doctor suggested me taking longer period of time. I am in cross road. I belive my lyme is chronic. been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years. Do you think EIS will work on chronic one? I have utopia silver maker. Do you think this home made EIS strong enough to kill? How much shall one to drink? Thanks. Helen --- On *Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon /aubuchon.da...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM I have tick infections. It was the one thing that has helped me the most. I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my life, since nothing else was working. It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat lyme, but I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for most. ~David 2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.com http://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=explorer...@hotmail.com Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
CSEIS mixed with sugar water
We put up a humming bird feeder last week. Normally you have to change the sugar water in it every couple of days because it will ferment. I figured that if I used colloidal silver to make the sugar water, it should not ferment. I was surprised that shortly after making the nectar it turned somewhat dark, like there was aggregation of the silver. However, even after 5 days, it is still in suspension, so I am somewhat confused. Also I am concerned that it might cause problems for the humming bird, if it kills the bacteria necessary for digestion. I think others have given CS to their birds without any problem, but since a hummingbird eats nectar almost exclusively, their digestion might be more like a honeybee than most birds. Any comments? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS mixed with sugar water
you might have it right, i don't know... makes sense. thanks for the feeder idea... i'm going to get one. -Original Message- From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 7:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEIS mixed with sugar water We put up a humming bird feeder last week. Normally you have to change the sugar water in it every couple of days because it will ferment. I figured that if I used colloidal silver to make the sugar water, it should not ferment. I was surprised that shortly after making the nectar it turned somewhat dark, like there was aggregation of the silver. However, even after 5 days, it is still in suspension, so I am somewhat confused. Also I am concerned that it might cause problems for the humming bird, if it kills the bacteria necessary for digestion. I think others have given CS to their birds without any problem, but since a hummingbird eats nectar almost exclusively, their digestion might be more like a honeybee than most birds. Any comments? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Evidence seems to support that the virus referred to as HIV is endemic, and that it only replicates beyond the level the HIV test is set for if one's immune system is compromised. That is, the HIV test actually will register positive on almost 100% of the people if the blood is not diluted down so the threshold is raised. This in conjunction with the fact that many people with a level of HIV above that threshold never get AIDS, and many with AIDS do not register above that level in HIV. Benzene and its derivatives is implicated as one of the main causative factors in AIDS. Thus HIV is not a cause of AIDS but simply a marker that the immune system is crippled. If this analysis is correct, then an advance of the HIV level to above the test's threshold would be an indication that the immune system is having problems, and needs some type of assistance. I would avoid all forms of benzene, including benzoic acid in processed foods, and do a parasite cleanse which is probably the second highest cause of AIDS. Marshall On 3/20/2011 5:12 PM, bob Larson wrote: i have read that after some years of being clean of HIV he picked it up all over again. so the question is open: did the TT not get it all, or was it intractable lifestyle that took him down? he wouldn't comment to me about that when asked in email. he did say that trials in africa that he had coordinated were ongoing and looking encouraging. i didn't know he had died. he was quite a soldier for his cause. i wouldn't be surprised if it turned out his HIV reccurence was engineered by gov't assasins. if his research is true and correct, they have a lot to deny and hide, and putting him down with apparent failure of the treatment would be the best way to dispose of him. but he probably just got it again from his buddies. nice to see you're here Duncan. hope you're still doing as well as the last report you made some time ago which was super impressive. i stopped reading almost all the lists except re silver and LDN naltrexone the past year or so. i think it was Ben Stein that proved Time = Money (he didn't say what happens as you approach the speed of light). bobL *From:* Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@yahoo.com] *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:58 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit: In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its role in the development of AIDS was accepted. The Justice Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the case. Soon after, his health began to deteriorate. The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a certain AIDS cure tested clinically. This was Tetracyl, a silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the HIV virus. The efficiency of this treatment has not been researched. Some patients have reported eradication of the virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded. After March Graves continued to lose ground. He tried another injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive. He had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20. Valiently putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus medications. Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent caretaker-boys took him to the hospital. Next morning he was intubated, comatose, and incommunicado. Thursday morning his sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection. He was to be put on comfort care at 2:30, meaning life support would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied. He died that afternoon.
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
the only available source of TT that i know of is in the form of hot-tub disinfectant... use instead of chlorine. called Silspa...from online, a place in wyoming. do NOT approach the (only) u.s. mfgr of it or you may hear from some men-in-black types. there's some kind of activator that's supposed to be used with it which i didn't have and from the look of the ingredients i wouldn't use unless i had some solid confirmation that it was o.k. i did use TT alone, no EIS for awhile to see what it did. it seemed to work about as well as EIS but no better. not a definitive experiment... trial group on the small side (1). since then i read patent abstracts indicating TT can be powerfully activated by ozonating it, and when so charged it stays that way pretty stable. free unused ozone bubbling away as O2 of course. so i tried ozonating it and that makes it taste very different and i sense (?) energized. only have messed with that a bit and put it aside til later, haven't been back to it. i now am in a situation where i will re-visit this probably this year. i couldn't really tell due to my limited use, but it still works at least as well as EIS. the thing is i'm free of hepC symptoms since starting CS and never get anything else that needs killing until lately i think. i might try it on the septic bursitis i'll post about shortly. will read that link as soon as i get ma to bed. eager to do so, thanks. bobL _ From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Hi Bob, That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one study: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/ Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't? Have any info/suggestions for buying/taking it? ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: if your CS is quite clear, under 15ppm, should be no problem with argyria. i'm on my 5th year of CS for hepC and it's doing a good job managing but never quite getting rid of it. in 2006 CS saved my life from the hepC. during the first year i started using it i drank at least 6 oz/day and often more. i drank a whole liter/day for several months. much of that CS also had Ag4O4 tetrasilver tetroxide added to it. i'm not gray, and the moons of my fingernails are white. the moons are supposed to turn blue when you come close to skin doing so, so then it's time to back off or stop). From: dingyun...@att.net [mailto:dingyun...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases nothing turn you to gray at that much amount? took months getting to that level? how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or retesting from lab. Sorry, so many questions. I have not gotten over my anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease. Helen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?) _ From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Hi Bob, That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one study: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/ Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't? Have any info/suggestions for buying/taking it? ~David
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
whats TT? - Original Message - From: bob Larson To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:42 AM Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?) From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Hi Bob, That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one study: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/ Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't? Have any info/suggestions for buying/taking it? ~David
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
TT = TetrasilverTetroxode Ag4O4 From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:tanke...@iland.net] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases whats TT? - Original Message - From: bob Larson mailto:bobli...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:42 AM Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?) From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Hi Bob, That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one study: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/ Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't? Have any info/suggestions for buying/taking it? ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit: In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its role in the development of AIDS was accepted. The Justice Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the case. Soon after, his health began to deteriorate. The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a certain AIDS cure tested clinically. This was Tetracyl, a silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the HIV virus. The efficiency of this treatment has not been researched. Some patients have reported eradication of the virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded. After March Graves continued to lose ground. He tried another injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive. He had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20. Valiently putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus medications. Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent caretaker-boys took him to the hospital. Next morning he was intubated, comatose, and incommunicado. Thursday morning his sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection. He was to be put on comfort care at 2:30, meaning life support would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied. He died that afternoon.
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
i have read that after some years of being clean of HIV he picked it up all over again. so the question is open: did the TT not get it all, or was it intractable lifestyle that took him down? he wouldn't comment to me about that when asked in email. he did say that trials in africa that he had coordinated were ongoing and looking encouraging. i didn't know he had died. he was quite a soldier for his cause. i wouldn't be surprised if it turned out his HIV reccurence was engineered by gov't assasins. if his research is true and correct, they have a lot to deny and hide, and putting him down with apparent failure of the treatment would be the best way to dispose of him. but he probably just got it again from his buddies. nice to see you're here Duncan. hope you're still doing as well as the last report you made some time ago which was super impressive. i stopped reading almost all the lists except re silver and LDN naltrexone the past year or so. i think it was Ben Stein that proved Time = Money (he didn't say what happens as you approach the speed of light). bobL _ From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Seems Dr. Graves eventually died of AIDS. Obit: In March 2009 his suit against the government for disclosure of its role in the development of AIDS was accepted. The Justice Department is engaged, and lawyers have been assigned to the case. Soon after, his health began to deteriorate. The other thrust of Dr. Graves work was his interest in having a certain AIDS cure tested clinically. This was Tetracyl, a silver oxide, patented by Dr. Marvin Adelman as a cure for the HIV virus. The efficiency of this treatment has not been researched. Some patients have reported eradication of the virus, other, usually more advanced, cases have not responded. After March Graves continued to lose ground. He tried another injection of Tetracyl, but the results were not positive. He had a bone infection and his T-cells were down to 20. Valiently putting his life on the line for what he believed, he elected for one more Tetracyl before he resorted to retrovirus medications. Last Monday night he had severe chest pains and his excellent caretaker-boys took him to the hospital. Next morning he was intubated, comatose, and incommunicado. Thursday morning his sister called and said he had an intractable lung infection. He was to be put on comfort care at 2:30, meaning life support would be withdrawn and more morphine would be applied. He died that afternoon.
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm. impossible. duh. _ From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get 10ppm in the blood by IV. Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site. Including protocols involving oral use. Most significantly are protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. ~David On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm. impossible. duh. -- *From:* bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?)
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Can you give the link for the protocols and cases? Dan On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:06 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get 10ppm in the blood by IV. Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site. Including protocols involving oral use. Most significantly are protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. ~David On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm. impossible. duh. From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:43 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases great article on the TT. i wonder if EIS used the same way would give similar results? that is, to raise the whole blood plasma volume to 10ppm or more silver in a short period by IV Boyd Graves was cured of HIV with one injection of TT sufficient to raise his plasma to a similar level, and it blew his liver up like a balloon but didn't damage it or impair function and eventually normalized. he's an interesting character. seems to have researched and put together the history of the development of the HIV by our biowarfare people... but either his case is weak (maybe but not likely as he's a very smart guy) or people just fail to respond much for other reasons (not to their credit?) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
this is the first i've read of the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. anywhere to read more about it? i can see myself wearing a power pack like when i was using a beck blood electrifier. add in bluetooth hanging on my ear and i am borg. resistance was futile. about the strongest i've been able to get CS with re-brewing over and over again is about 65ppm when it settles down. tired, too lazy to do the math right now, but what volume of 65ppm would it take to raise the plasma level... what is it on average, something like 8 liters in the body? if so, guesstimating, wouldn't it take something like 1.5 or more liters ? seems like it would be dangerous to thin out the blood with so much water quickly, even a drip over a couple days? and the longer it takes to deliver in, the more it takes cuz the CS is processed out so quickly?l with the TT it's easy to shoot a high concentration in one syringe... probably only 10cc or something? i can't take risks with myself while i'm responsible for taking care of my ma, but after she dies i can. but i believe she's getting better now and might last another decade... jeez, that'd kill me in the process, but that's the deal i guess. From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 6:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases If you made high density EIS with a little peroxide maybe you could get 10ppm in the blood by IV. Though I have many documentated AIDS recovieries from EIS use on my site. Including protocols involving oral use. Most significantly are protocols involving the direct generation of ions with implanted electrodes in an artery. ~David On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:14 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: to answer my own question, i guess you couldn't really use EIS to get plasma level to 10ppm. impossible. duh. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
I have tick infections. It was the one thing that has helped me the most. I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my life, since nothing else was working. It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat lyme, but I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for most. ~David 2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.com Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it. My doctor suggested me taking longer period of time. I am in cross road. I belive my lyme is chronic. been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years. Do you think EIS will work on chronic one? I have utopia silver maker. Do you think this home made EIS strong enough to kill? How much shall one to drink? Thanks. Helen --- On Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM I have tick infections. It was the one thing that has helped me the most. I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my life, since nothing else was working. It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat lyme, but I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for most. ~David 2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.com Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
I'd start with 1 tsp a day (or less if you feel really sick), then increase until you reach a point where you feel just barely noticeable herx reaction. Then stay at that dose until you no longer get reaction. Then increase again in the same way. So like 1 tsp, 2 tsp, 1 tbsp, 2 tbsp, 3 tbsp (1 fl oz.), 2 fl. oz. all the way to at least 8 fl .oz. maybe more. ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:19 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote: I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it. My doctor suggested me taking longer period of time. I am in cross road. I belive my lyme is chronic. been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years. Do you think EIS will work on chronic one? I have utopia silver maker. Do you think this home made EIS strong enough to kill? How much shall one to drink? Thanks. Helen --- On *Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com* wrote: From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM I have tick infections. It was the one thing that has helped me the most. I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my life, since nothing else was working. It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat lyme, but I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for most. ~David 2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.comhttp://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=explorer...@hotmail.com Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
nothing turn you to gray at that much amount? took months getting to that level? how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or retesting from lab. Sorry, so many questions. I have not gotten over my anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease. Helen --- On Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 5:23 PM I'd start with 1 tsp a day (or less if you feel really sick), then increase until you reach a point where you feel just barely noticeable herx reaction. Then stay at that dose until you no longer get reaction. Then increase again in the same way. So like 1 tsp, 2 tsp, 1 tbsp, 2 tbsp, 3 tbsp (1 fl oz.), 2 fl. oz. all the way to at least 8 fl .oz. maybe more. ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:19 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote: I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it. My doctor suggested me taking longer period of time. I am in cross road. I belive my lyme is chronic. been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years. Do you think EIS will work on chronic one? I have utopia silver maker. Do you think this home made EIS strong enough to kill? How much shall one to drink? Thanks. Helen --- On Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM I have tick infections. It was the one thing that has helped me the most. I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my life, since nothing else was working. It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat lyme, but I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for most. ~David 2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.com Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
most people have herx reactions when they do something to kill bugs. This makes you temporarily feel worse, and then feel better. And it is proportional to how much bugs you kill at once. So that is why you need to increase doses slowly as you can tolerate. This will ensure you avoid experiences like you had with doxycycline. So to answer your question, EIS gave me herx reactions followed by net improvement. I improved, improved, improved, until EIS gave me neither herx reactions or improvement for some time. I am not familiar with the generator you have, but I would suggest making around 10PPM EIS. I would not worry about turning blue long term if the resulting EIS is clear. Yes, it would take time anyway. If you want to think extensively about safety precautions, read the following section on safety if EIS which I wrote: http://scientificliving.net/2011/02/the-ultimate-guide-to-colloidal-silver-colloidal-silver-generators-and-jello-2/#the-safety-of-eis-and-jello Remember that the bugs cause all sorts of anxiety, depression, and fear symptoms themselves. So when you feel freaked out, always remind yourself that it is the bugs and not you, and those feelings will go away when the bugs are gone. Always do things gradually, and never do things hastily out of a rush to get well. There is a group of people using homemade EIS for lyme and infections here. I also am on this group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DougPlus/messages ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote: nothing turn you to gray at that much amount? took months getting to that level? how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or retesting from lab. Sorry, so many questions. I have not gotten over my anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease. Helen --- On *Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com* wrote: From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 5:23 PM I'd start with 1 tsp a day (or less if you feel really sick), then increase until you reach a point where you feel just barely noticeable herx reaction. Then stay at that dose until you no longer get reaction. Then increase again in the same way. So like 1 tsp, 2 tsp, 1 tbsp, 2 tbsp, 3 tbsp (1 fl oz.), 2 fl. oz. all the way to at least 8 fl .oz. maybe more. ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:19 PM, dingyun...@att.nethttp://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dingyun...@att.net wrote: I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it. My doctor suggested me taking longer period of time. I am in cross road. I belive my lyme is chronic. been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years. Do you think EIS will work on chronic one? I have utopia silver maker. Do you think this home made EIS strong enough to kill? How much shall one to drink? Thanks. Helen --- On *Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aubuchon.da...@gmail.com * wrote: From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases To: silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM I have tick infections. It was the one thing that has helped me the most. I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my life, since nothing else was working. It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat lyme, but I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for most. ~David 2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.comhttp://us.mc823.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=explorer...@hotmail.com Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Hi Helen, EIS has helped a lot of Lymies (I'm one; 45+ years of undiagnosed Lyme, 4.5 years actively treating), but I don't think EIS will work alone. I'd strongly recommend you check out http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/ This is an effective, economical and proven protocol for killing Lyme. I couldn't have recovered without it. It's a group of knowledgeable, compassionate, and experienced Lymies, and the moderator is a wealth of information. He's also written an ebook that's excellent and is truly worth downloading. I know that SC made a tremendous difference in helping me recover, and the off-topic info that the group offered helped me effectively address the many issues that come with Lyme. Another group that's full of good info, even if you don't have a Rife machine (although an excellent place to learn what kinds are best and how to use them) is http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_and_Rife/ These two groups have been my foundation, support and map to recovery. I couldn't have done it without them. I had no access to even semi- knowledgeable docs (I gave them 40 years to get it right), so have done it on my own (but with great support from these groups) There is some concern/controversy that EIS, like abx, can cause Lyme to go into cyst form, which is something we don't really wnat, as they can re-emerge from cyst not as one organism but five! We like to keep our pathogens in their active form, where they are more vulnerable. I ugenerate and use EIS for dental care, eye drops, sinus spry, ear- drops, skin formulas, but only drink an oz. a day, unless I'm exposed to someone's germs, or when I feel like someone's germs have caught up with me. Doxy is good for acute (recently-bitten) Lyme but so many people in these groups who have had extensive abx after they developed chronic Lyme improved only as long as they were on the abx, and after getting off, they eventually turned up sicker than the rest of us who were doing other protocols. There are some Lyme-literate docs who are knowledgeable enough to work with abx: which different kinds and what sort of pulsing, but not many, at least from what I've read on these forums for the last 4.5 years. As you believe you have chronic Lyme, I'd really hope that you'd pursue some of the many other more effective killing protocols, and also learn about how to detox, as whatever pathogens you kill will leave toxic die-off that must be eliminated as quickly as possible from the body in order for you to make real progress. So, I think EIS will be a valuable tool in fighting Lyme, and I think following some good Lyme groups will lead you to a whole tool-kit of great protocols, and better and better health . Be well, Léna On Mar 19, 2011, at 8:19 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote: I just got my lyme report and was positive and immediatly was on Doxycycline and felt so sick after taking it. My doctor suggested me taking longer period of time. I am in cross road. I belive my lyme is chronic. been feeling pain/sick for more than 20 years. Do you think EIS will work on chronic one? I have utopia silver maker. Do you think this home made EIS strong enough to kill? How much shall one to drink? Thanks. Helen --- On Sat, 3/19/11, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:36 PM I have tick infections. It was the one thing that has helped me the most. I've peaked, and am still really sick, but I think it may have saved my life, since nothing else was working. It typically takes many things over a long time to totally beat lyme, but I am confident in saying that EIS is the overall best first thing to try for most. ~David 2011/3/19 Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.com Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
if your CS is quite clear, under 15ppm, should be no problem with argyria. i'm on my 5th year of CS for hepC and it's doing a good job managing but never quite getting rid of it. in 2006 CS saved my life from the hepC. during the first year i started using it i drank at least 6 oz/day and often more. i drank a whole liter/day for several months. much of that CS also had Ag4O4 tetrasilver tetroxide added to it. i'm not gray, and the moons of my fingernails are white. the moons are supposed to turn blue when you come close to skin doing so, so then it's time to back off or stop). From: dingyun...@att.net [mailto:dingyun...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases nothing turn you to gray at that much amount? took months getting to that level? how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or retesting from lab. Sorry, so many questions. I have not gotten over my anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease. Helen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
i'm not a lymie, but have read from enough of them to wonder if EIS/CS will put the spirochetes in their protected cyst mode if the aren't killed by it right off? the story i've read (this list i believe, years ago) with the most impressive success was a guy who had chronic lyme for decades and knocked it out by jumping right in megadosing. something like a quart/day for at least a month as i recall... maybe it was several month. if he's still here you'll hear from him. he got lyme from a biowarfare medical experiment while in the military in europe... _ From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases I'd start with 1 tsp a day (or less if you feel really sick), then increase until you reach a point where you feel just barely noticeable herx reaction. Then stay at that dose until you no longer get reaction. Then increase again in the same way. So like 1 tsp, 2 tsp, 1 tbsp, 2 tbsp, 3 tbsp (1 fl oz.), 2 fl. oz. all the way to at least 8 fl .oz. maybe more. ~David
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
Hi Bob, That silver compound you mentioned cured 30 out of 30 breast cancers in one study: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_274/ai_n16359688/pg_2/ Did it do anything for you that EIS didn't? Have any info/suggestions for buying/taking it? ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: if your CS is quite clear, under 15ppm, should be no problem with argyria. i'm on my 5th year of CS for hepC and it's doing a good job managing but never quite getting rid of it. in 2006 CS saved my life from the hepC. during the first year i started using it i drank at least 6 oz/day and often more. i drank a whole liter/day for several months. much of that CS also had Ag4O4 tetrasilver tetroxide added to it. i'm not gray, and the moons of my fingernails are white. the moons are supposed to turn blue when you come close to skin doing so, so then it's time to back off or stop). From: dingyun...@att.net [mailto:dingyun...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases nothing turn you to gray at that much amount? took months getting to that level? how do you know it was working like no more lyme symptoms or retesting from lab. Sorry, so many questions. I have not gotten over my anxiety/emotion yet. I felt depressed having this tick-borne disease. Helen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
there's a few folks around here like you're looking for... but please share your interesting results with the list? i know i'd like to read them. _ From: Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases
If it is something inexpensive, aquirable, and absorbable, then I would probably try some. ~David On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote: there's a few folks around here like you're looking for... but please share your interesting results with the list? i know i'd like to read them. -- *From:* Carlos Pérez [mailto:explorer...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:05 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* CSEIS and Tick-borne diseases Does anyone have experience in treating Lyme, Ehrlichiosis and/or other Tick-borne diseases with EIS? I have had very interesting results in a serious case of Ehrlichiosis and Rickettsiosis that I had chronic for several years. I would like to share experiences with other colleagues. Regards. Carlos
Re: CSEIS and ulcers
Thanks to everyone who replied to my query. Marshall, do you have any idea how much they took? 2 oz 2-3 times a day or more and for how long? Thanks. PT From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 11:59:10 PM Subject: Re: CSEIS and ulcers I have had several people report immediate relief and healing of stomach ulcers with the ingestion of CS. Marshall On 3/13/2011 6:04 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: Hi, Has anyone had experience successfully using colloidal silver for stomach/intestinal ulcers? I have a friend with this history and I was wondering if it was worth getting their hopes up. Thanks. PT
Re: CSEIS and ulcers
That sounds about right. I think they only took it for one day. Marshall On 3/14/2011 9:59 AM, PT Ferrance wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied to my query. Marshall, do you have any idea how much they took? 2 oz 2-3 times a day or more and for how long? Thanks. PT *From:* Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sun, March 13, 2011 11:59:10 PM *Subject:* Re: CSEIS and ulcers I have had several people report immediate relief and healing of stomach ulcers with the ingestion of CS. Marshall On 3/13/2011 6:04 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: Hi, Has anyone had experience successfully using colloidal silver for stomach/intestinal ulcers? I have a friend with this history and I was wondering if it was worth getting their hopes up. Thanks. PT
CSEIS and ulcers
Hi, Has anyone had experience successfully using colloidal silver for stomach/intestinal ulcers? I have a friend with this history and I was wondering if it was worth getting their hopes up. Thanks. PT
Re: CSEIS and ulcers
Here's something your friend may try = http://www.herballegacy.com/Ulcers.html Smitty ~~ On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:04 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, Has anyone had experience successfully using colloidal silver for stomach/intestinal ulcers? I have a friend with this history and I was wondering if it was worth getting their hopes up. Thanks. PT
Re: CSEIS and ulcers
I cured mine many years ago, long before I found out about CS. Father in law was a doctor at that time. He told me to take Pepto Bismal. when I researched it I found that the Bismal part was for the fact that the ingredients were primarily Bismouth. A heavy metal that kills bacteria on contact. Helicobacter pylori is the culprit in ulcers. I bought the biggest bottle I could find and sipped on it all day long. In about a week or two the pain disappeared and has never returned. This was at least 30 years ago.. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:04 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, Has anyone had experience successfully using colloidal silver for stomach/intestinal ulcers? I have a friend with this history and I was wondering if it was worth getting their hopes up. Thanks. PT -- *PLEASE remove ALL names and email addresses before forwarding; and send only as BLIND CARBON COPY (Bcc). Erasing the addresses helps prevent SPAMMERS from mining the addresses and propagating VIRUSES and reduces the possibility of identity theft.* Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSEIS and ulcers
I have had several people report immediate relief and healing of stomach ulcers with the ingestion of CS. Marshall On 3/13/2011 6:04 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: Hi, Has anyone had experience successfully using colloidal silver for stomach/intestinal ulcers? I have a friend with this history and I was wondering if it was worth getting their hopes up. Thanks. PT
Re: CSEIS and stem cells
This link maybe of interest? http://thesilveredge.com/pdf/Induced_Dedifferentiation.pdf On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:09 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote: Anyone have any ideas how EIS compares to stem-cell boosting products like StemPlex, StemKine, StemGevity, or StemEhnhance? These are all supposed to increase the levels or circulating adult stem cells. Does oral EIS have a similar effect? Or is this only in other methods of administration? FYI, I just sprayed EIS on a paper cut yesterday and put a bandaid on. Today the cut is completely undetectable to my eyes! ~David http://scientificliving.net/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEIS/CS New glass contaminants
I vaguelly remember quite some time ago we were alerted to the fact that new glass bottles/jars/containers could be adulterated with impurities.The suggestion was to go to garage/carport/flea-market sales where there may be OLD glass jars for sale. I was able to hang onto some old 1 and 1/2 gallon jugs at least 50 years old which are serving me nicely for storing.My brewing jars are at least twenty years old. This may answer why some of you are having some difficulty with different batches.ie colors. Harold
Re: CSEIS/CS Archives
Yeah, me too! On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Harold MacDonald wrote: This works for me. http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
CSEIS/MSM/Xylitol/Dmso mix
Brickey - what is the mix percentages? I have all those items on hand and could make it. Jaxi On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:04 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote: A dentist in Mexico gave me her supply of two part epoxy to glue loose crowns back in. I told her that I was too many miles from Mexico to drop in just for re-gluing crowns. I used super glue to stick back on loose crowns. She tried to convert pesos to dollars with her calculator and said just give it to him. Dentist up here will not even sell me the epoxy. They prefer to say you need a new crown and get about $500. I had a dentist check up prior to knee replacement and my dentist said I had many ill fitting crowns made in Mexico but could not believe that I had no cavities. Thanks to brushing my teeth with the EIS/MSM/Xylitol/Dmso mix given to the list by the retired Dentist who applied for a patent (XLEAR)?. He said use his mix but don't sell the mixture. I heard that it is now risky to cross the border from Yuma to Los Algodones, Mexico because of the drug cartels. Where are the snow birds going for Dental work now? Brickey
Re: CSEIS and mold
Hi There Nenah - as you try and work EIS with just about everything you will see just how wonderful this product is and how many uses there are in life for it - it never ceases to give me joy ! REgards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEIS and mold
I happen to have two waxed milk cartons that we used up the milk in. We usually rinse the carton out to avoid the odor that comes from milk aging. This time, instead of rinsing I simply put a splash of EIS into each carton. The cartons were left on the counter and they did recieve afternoon sun, when it was not raining. A week later, there is no odor, and no mold growing inside the cartons. While I suppose this is old hat to most of you, I find it truely remarkable. At any rate, I just thought I would share. Tom -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS and mold
I happen to have two waxed milk cartons that we used up the milk in. We usually rinse the carton out to avoid the odor that comes from milk aging. This time, instead of rinsing I simply put a splash of EIS into each carton. The cartons were left on the counter and they did recieve afternoon sun, when it was not raining. A week later, there is no odor, and no mold growing inside the cartons. While I suppose this is old hat to most of you, I find it truly remarkable. At any rate, I just thought I would share. Tom -- Even for an old-timer like me, it's still nice to hear reports like this, Tom. Thanks for letting us know. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com/
CSEIS Nasal Spray, Xylitol, Fenugreek
Looking at the archives I found Harold's recipe for EIS Nasal Spray. This time I noticed his use of Fenugreek to help clear lung congestion. How much and how often did you take the Fenugreek? I was using a salt/baking soda sinus wash and it controls my sinus problem but I can't miss one day. I remember using Harold's recipe with better results. I ordered Fenugreek from Puritan Pride where they have a 40% off sale, buy 2 and get 3 free and free shipping. See if that helps get rid of an Asthma wheeze. Brickey
Re: CSEIS Nasal Spray, Xylitol, Fenugreek
I was just reading in Dr. David Williams' Alternatives News Letter about new oral probiotics. (For the mouth, and presumably upper part of the digestive tract.) I know it is oral, but I wonder if something like this would help with sinus problems. It is supposed to help with ear infections. Don't know if it would be advisable to do a nasal wash with something like this, but I expect some of the bacteria get up there naturally anyway. The one he is recommending consists of S. Salivarius called BLIS K12 but apparently this is only one of many beneficial oral bacteria. This (Active-K12 brand) appears to be pretty expensive. I looked up oral probiotics on Swanson's Vitamins and they have one (Oral Probiotic Formula) with Blis K12 and several other types of bacteria for a much, much cheaper price, $5.99 for 30 lozenges. This is in contrast to an outrageous price, in my opinion, of up to $60 for the Active-K12, which doesn't even say how many lozenges are included, or give any technical information. Anyway, I was talking about inoculating infants with beneficial oral bacteria as they were teething about 30 years ago... Dan On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:35 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote: Looking at the archives I found Harold's recipe for EIS Nasal Spray. This time I noticed his use of Fenugreek to help clear lung congestion. How much and how often did you take the Fenugreek? I was using a salt/baking soda sinus wash and it controls my sinus problem but I can't miss one day. I remember using Harold's recipe with better results. I ordered Fenugreek from Puritan Pride where they have a 40% off sale, buy 2 and get 3 free and free shipping. See if that helps get rid of an Asthma wheeze. Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS Nasal Spray, Xylitol, Fenugreek
I am also taking probiotics daily. I make my own probiotics using ground up cabbage, an old pickle jar and filled with water. Put it in the garage and wait 72 hours. The next jar I use some of the old for seed and only have to wait 24 hours. Might not be the best but the price is right. Brickey
Re: CSEIS Nasal Spray, Xylitol, Fenugreek
OK, but I am referring to what I believe is a different strain of bacteria than you probably get with the cabbage. I also tried the method you mention, but the end result was sickening (as far as taste and smell are concerned)... I think it needs some salt, like sauerkraut, and to be fermented away from oxygen, in order to stop the less desirable bacteria from multiplying. But, if you do that, you end up eating too much salt, as it stays in the water. Better to make real sauerkraut. Dan On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:03 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote: I am also taking probiotics daily. I make my own probiotics using ground up cabbage, an old pickle jar and filled with water. Put it in the garage and wait 72 hours. The next jar I use some of the old for seed and only have to wait 24 hours. Might not be the best but the price is right. Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS
That is definitely NOT a good idea. You will end up with silver salts, which are known to lead to argyria. Seed it with a previous batch of EIS if you want to jump start it. Or just wait a while. It will eventually pick up speed. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 1:46:50 PM Subject: Re: CSEIS Ooh, I wouldn't think that would be a good idea - better some of another batch once one is made. dee On 14 Feb 2010, at 16:59, Cal Robinson wrote: You can add salt, or baking soda, or an electrolyte to get things started. Cal
RE: CSEIS and Ozone
Marshall, When you bubbled ozone through EIS, did you see any changes to the EIS? Was there any noticeable color changes that might indicate oxidation of the silver particles? Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver for babesia and lyme When working with lyme I would bubble ozone through EIS before drinking it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS and Ozone
I noticed no changes whatsoever. My guess is that ozone would act similar to H2O2, that is be a redox operative, resulting in an increase in the particulate concentartion and a decrease in the size of the particles. But I have no data to back up that supposition. Marshall Norton, Steve wrote: Marshall, When you bubbled ozone through EIS, did you see any changes to the EIS? Was there any noticeable color changes that might indicate oxidation of the silver particles? Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver for babesia and lyme When working with lyme I would bubble ozone through EIS before drinking it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS
Pure water does conduct, although very poorly. Absolutely pure water has a conductivity of .055 uS/cm.. Water in equilibrium with the carbon dioxide in the air has a much higher, but still quite low conductivity. Marshall Cal Robinson wrote: Absolutely PURE water will not conduct electricity. Electrolytic generators need electricity to pass through the water, so the water needs something conductive in it before the silverpuppy or any EIS machine can function. Because water is a solvent, given enough time it will eventually absorb enough of some element– usually carbon from the air, (as glass doesn’t dissolve and does not, itself, conduct) - and then the ionization process starts working. You can add salt, or baking soda, or an electrolyte to get things started. Cal -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEIS
Absolutely PURE water will not conduct electricity. Electrolytic generators need electricity to pass through the water, so the water needs something conductive in it before the silverpuppy or any EIS machine can function. Because water is a solvent, given enough time it will eventually absorb enough of some element- usually carbon from the air, (as glass doesn't dissolve and does not, itself, conduct) - and then the ionization process starts working. You can add salt, or baking soda, or an electrolyte to get things started. Cal
Re: CSEIS
Ooh, I wouldn't think that would be a good idea - better some of another batch once one is made. dee On 14 Feb 2010, at 16:59, Cal Robinson wrote: You can add salt, or baking soda, or an electrolyte to get things started. Cal
Re: CSEIS and DMSO?
EIS is electrically isolated silver. DMSO reacts with moisture making heat. It should be diluted and allowed to cool offtill it doesn't burn ...and different people have different tolerances. Typically, it's 10% DMSO to 90% water for most applications. Some people can apply it topically straight up, some can't. And some wind up smelling like an Italian dish and some don't. Incidentally, garlic and onions have loads of sulphur in them [ like DMSO] and do pretty much the same thing. Natural Antibiotic as in, Sulfa drugs. Back in the way old days, sick people would soak in a tub of warm strong onion soup to absorb it though the skin. Could be an MRSA or shingles ticket? Ode At 04:46 PM 1/24/2010 -0600, you wrote:  Showing my beginner status again-- in catching up on some reading, I came across a few posts that mention taking EIS with DMSO, and I believe it was taken by mouth. I have some DMSO roll-on, 70% DMSO, 30% Distilled water, recommended to us by a naturopath for muscle aches or similar, some time ago. As I recalled it burned some, so it mostly sat in the cabinet. Label says it is sold as a solvent, and the choice of the process used in the various applications is the sole responsibility of the user. Are we talking about the same thing? And if DMSO is drinkable in some small percentage, how does one purchase that and where? And EIS stands for what? There is so much to learn. thanks, Beth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS and DMSO?
I think the DMSO to take orally is 99.9% and 70% DMSO and 30% distilled water Beth. dee On 24 Jan 2010, at 22:46, Beth Harrison wrote: Showing my beginner status again-- in catching up on some reading, I came across a few posts that mention taking EIS with DMSO, and I believe it was taken by mouth. I have some DMSO roll-on, 70% DMSO, 30% Distilled water, recommended to us by a naturopath for muscle aches or similar, some time ago. As I recalled it burned some, so it mostly sat in the cabinet. Label says it is sold as a solvent, and the choice of the process used in the various applications is the sole responsibility of the user. Are we talking about the same thing? And if DMSO is drinkable in some small percentage, how does one purchase that and where? And EIS stands for what? There is so much to learn. thanks, Beth
CSEIS and DMSO?
Re: CSBlood test shows CS continues to bring viral load downShowing my beginner status again-- in catching up on some reading, I came across a few posts that mention taking EIS with DMSO, and I believe it was taken by mouth. I have some DMSO roll-on, 70% DMSO, 30% Distilled water, recommended to us by a naturopath for muscle aches or similar, some time ago. As I recalled it burned some, so it mostly sat in the cabinet. Label says it is sold as a solvent, and the choice of the process used in the various applications is the sole responsibility of the user. Are we talking about the same thing? And if DMSO is drinkable in some small percentage, how does one purchase that and where? And EIS stands for what? There is so much to learn. thanks, Beth
Re: CSEIS ??
NO. EIS is what many people call colloidal silver. But many people call things that are not colloidal silver colloidal silver ( silver salts, silver protein ), confusing everyone, so we refer to REAL colloidal silver as EIS here. You make it by electrilytically isolating silver by electric current in distilled water thus the name of Electrolytically Isolated Silver. EIS = REAL CS Marshall Dick Rochon wrote: So, let me make sure I have this straight. To make EIS you add one part of 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1,000 parts of colloidal silver, then you combine this with equal parts of DMSO. Is that all there is to it? And is this for external or internal use, or both? And if using it internally, how much would you consume daily? And could it be used with a nebulizer for lung problems? Thanks, Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEIS ??
So, let me make sure I have this straight. To make EIS you add one part of 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1,000 parts of colloidal silver, then you combine this with equal parts of DMSO. Is that all there is to it? And is this for external or internal use, or both? And if using it internally, how much would you consume daily? And could it be used with a nebulizer for lung problems? Thanks, Dick
Re: CSEIS ??
Not quite... EIS is Electrically Isolated Silver. It is the same as CS, only more specific as to the type of CS. Add the other ingredients to EIS... Dan On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Dick Rochon rrocho...@comcast.net wrote: So, let me make sure I have this straight. To make EIS you add one part of 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1,000 parts of colloidal silver, then you combine this with equal parts of DMSO. Is that all there is to it? And is this for external or internal use, or both? And if using it internally, how much would you consume daily? And could it be used with a nebulizer for lung problems? Thanks, Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS and mold
When silver ions dry up, they oxidize and turn into silver oxide...black specks that **look like** mold. Ode At 11:00 PM 11/10/2009 -0600, you wrote: Well, sipping from the bottle can contaminate the entire batch so it becomes ineffective. It is important to pour it into a clean bottle (well rinsed with distilled water) and then pour it out into something else without touching skin to the jar edge. I have seen some kind of mold (tiny specks) on the underside of the cap on my bottle after a long time. Kathryn On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Saralou wrote: I'm starting to wonder about my EIS. I know it's doing stuff to the water but... bleah. I just refilled my 4 oz desk bottle (from which I sip from time to time) and noticed the mold/mildiew smell. Blessedly it's only 4 oz. It's a blass bottle with plastic cap. I noticed the same thing on the bathroom bottle a few months ago. Can't tell if it comes from the air or mouth contamination or both or? but the EIS isn't killing it. Somebody please reassure me that EIS kills single-cell fungi so this stuff must be more sophisticated. Saralou -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS and mold
Well, sipping from the bottle can contaminate the entire batch so it becomes ineffective. It is important to pour it into a clean bottle (well rinsed with distilled water) and then pour it out into something else without touching skin to the jar edge. I have seen some kind of mold (tiny specks) on the underside of the cap on my bottle after a long time. Kathryn On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Saralou wrote: I'm starting to wonder about my EIS. I know it's doing stuff to the water but... bleah. I just refilled my 4 oz desk bottle (from which I sip from time to time) and noticed the mold/mildiew smell. Blessedly it's only 4 oz. It's a blass bottle with plastic cap. I noticed the same thing on the bathroom bottle a few months ago. Can't tell if it comes from the air or mouth contamination or both or? but the EIS isn't killing it. Somebody please reassure me that EIS kills single-cell fungi so this stuff must be more sophisticated. Saralou -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEIS and mold
I'm starting to wonder about my EIS. I know it's doing stuff to the water but... bleah. I just refilled my 4 oz desk bottle (from which I sip from time to time) and noticed the mold/mildiew smell. Blessedly it's only 4 oz. It's a blass bottle with plastic cap. I noticed the same thing on the bathroom bottle a few months ago. Can't tell if it comes from the air or mouth contamination or both or? but the EIS isn't killing it. Somebody please reassure me that EIS kills single-cell fungi so this stuff must be more sophisticated. Saralou -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS/CS Colour...phooee
This would apply if you were certain of what *caused* the yellowing.
If it were just silver then that would be ok, but what if it is the
silver agglomerating with something else? To me if it is mostly
clear, and then yellow sometimes, it is not certain what has caused
that colour. dee
On 3 Nov 2009, at 21:59, Neville Munn wrote:
The following would support my view, or I support theirs, whichever,
regarding colour...
Quote: True silver colloids that have a high percentage of the
silver content in the form of nanometer sized
particles will absorb visible light causing the apparent colour to
appear dark-amber, {my 'tea' colour}, or brown.
It is very high concentration of particles, not large particle size
or contamination, that gives these products
such colour. End quote. This comes from an article from CSL.
Probably depends on which published material one wants to believe, I
believe this, and my own visual observations over all else, not to
mention my tested samples of course.
That 1 micron 'colloid' I spoke of earlier would be the upper limit,
however, our particles/particle clusters would fall WELL under that
limit. Unless 'lumps' of silver are found laying in the bottom of
my container...it's all good, and the above quote is relevant.
N.
Re: CSEIS/CS Colour...phooee
Teh quantity of particles changes the darkness of the color, the more
particles the darker, thus light yellow, yellow, amber and dark amber
would all be essentially the same particle size. Particle size changes
the color, with the color absorbed going to longer wavelengths as the
particle size increases. Be mindful that the color seen is the
complement of the color absorbed, so as it moves from violet to blue to
green in absorption, you see light yellow to gold, to orange, then red.
Multiple sizes will absorb in multiple wavelengths giving more of a
brown or black.
Marshall
Neville Munn wrote:
The following would support my view, or I support theirs,
whichever, regarding colour...
Quote: True silver colloids that have a high percentage of the silver
content in the form of nanometer sized
particles will absorb visible light causing the apparent colour to
appear dark-amber, {my 'tea' colour}, or brown.
It is very high concentration of particles, not large particle size or
contamination, that gives these products
such colour. End quote. This comes from an article from CSL.
Probably depends on which published material one wants to believe, I
believe this, and my own visual observations over all else, not to
mention my tested samples of course.
That 1 micron 'colloid' I spoke of earlier would be the upper limit,
however, our particles/particle clusters would fall WELL under that
limit. Unless 'lumps' of silver are found laying in the bottom of my
container...it's all good, and the above quote is relevant.
N.
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RE: CSEIS/CS Colour...phooee
Yes Marshall, my explanations probably aren't the best but I go by the
'clarity' of colour if you like, if that colour (which is seldom I may add) is
a 'clear' or 'distinct' colour and not cloudy or such then my assumption
follows that which was stated earlier. May be wrong there but that's how I
judge quality.
But here's something to ponder...that 'tea' coloured solution I spoke of was
brewed in a 2 litre crystal jug and I believe something happened between the
lead in that crystal and the electrolysis process, am going to repeat one day
and if result is the same then I know the lead in the crystal glassware is
having some effect on end result. I may be right off the mark there but can't
think of another reason why this should have occurred on that occasion.
N.
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:31:27 -0500
From: mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEIS/CS Colour...phooee
Teh quantity of particles changes the darkness of the color, the more
particles the darker, thus light yellow, yellow, amber and dark amber
would all be essentially the same particle size. Particle size changes
the color, with the color absorbed going to longer wavelengths as the
particle size increases. Be mindful that the color seen is the
complement of the color absorbed, so as it moves from violet to blue to
green in absorption, you see light yellow to gold, to orange, then red.
Multiple sizes will absorb in multiple wavelengths giving more of a
brown or black.
Marshall
Neville Munn wrote:
The following would support my view, or I support theirs,
whichever, regarding colour...
Quote: True silver colloids that have a high percentage of the silver
content in the form of nanometer sized
particles will absorb visible light causing the apparent colour to
appear dark-amber, {my 'tea' colour}, or brown.
It is very high concentration of particles, not large particle size or
contamination, that gives these products
such colour. End quote. This comes from an article from CSL.
Probably depends on which published material one wants to believe, I
believe this, and my own visual observations over all else, not to
mention my tested samples of course.
That 1 micron 'colloid' I spoke of earlier would be the upper limit,
however, our particles/particle clusters would fall WELL under that
limit. Unless 'lumps' of silver are found laying in the bottom of my
container...it's all good, and the above quote is relevant.
N.
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CSEIS/CS Colour...phooee
The following would support my view, or I support theirs, whichever, regarding
colour...
Quote: True silver colloids that have a high percentage of the silver content
in the form of nanometer sized
particles will absorb visible light causing the apparent colour to appear
dark-amber, {my 'tea' colour}, or brown.
It is very high concentration of particles, not large particle size or
contamination, that gives these products
such colour. End quote. This comes from an article from CSL. Probably
depends on which published material one wants to believe, I believe this, and
my own visual observations over all else, not to mention my tested samples of
course.
That 1 micron 'colloid' I spoke of earlier would be the upper limit, however,
our particles/particle clusters would fall WELL under that limit. Unless
'lumps' of silver are found laying in the bottom of my container...it's all
good, and the above quote is relevant.
N.
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CSEIS and Miracle 2
Does anyone use Miracle 2 products with EIS/Colloidal Silver? To what benefit? anddd (privately or on the OT list) I'm in the market to purchase some Miracle 2 soap and neutralizer; anyone have a favorite vendor? At the moment am looking favorably at miracle2angels.com because I've not found a lower price ($10 for 22oz). Thanks. Saralou -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEIS?
what is EIS? Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS?
Electrically Isolated Silver -- another name (a more accurate name) for the CS that most of us on the list make. MA From: jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:05:40 AM Subject: CSEIS? what is EIS? Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS?
thank you -Original Message- From: MaryAnn Helland [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:35 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS? Electrically Isolated Silver -- another name (a more accurate name) for the CS that most of us on the list make. MA -- From: jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:05:40 AM Subject: CSEIS? what is EIS? Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEIS?
Re: CSEIS?thans. Jess -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS? See http://www.silvermedicine.org/about-silver.html - Steve N - Original Message - From: jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat Jun 13 12:11:43 2009 Subject: CSEIS? What is EIS? Jess -Original Message- From: Thora Rasmussen [mailto:mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way ! Peter, Thanks, that's what I needed, a good recipe. And I think I will do my neck in the winter, when I can wear turtle necks. I have some other ones I can do this summer. I'll keep you all posted on how it goes. Thora -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:21 AM To: Shiona Phillips; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way ! Good afternoon All, I have used this method: 1) Scratch the surface of the mole this one time only with a sterilized needle. (rough it up good but within reason) 2) Spray a little EIS onto the mole. Let it dry. 3) Make a fresh paste for each application using castor oil and baking soda. (not too thin and runny or too dry and crusty) 4) Apply this paste over the mole 3 times daily and cover with a bandaid to keep the air out. (Can cover the whole thing with some duct tape also but be careful removing the tape...it can be hard on the skin) 5) Repeat the process for as much time as needed each day, always washing the area before the next application. It may take several days or up to 3 or more weeks but most moles will eventually come off if all steps are included and used faithfully. Have fun! Moles Away!! Peter - Original Message - From: Shiona Phillips hyasy...@freenetname.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way ! Not sure about moles but for skin tags it's worth trying colloidal silver before anything more drastic. I removed a skin tag by applying colloidal silver and after a few days it just dropped off. Also tried the duct tape method (actually suggested by my doctor), on a verouca and that worked too. Apparently it's the deprivation of oxygen method that knocks a verouca on the head, so this might be effective on skin tags and moles also.. As for skin tags, CS certainly worked for me! Shiona Day Sutton wrote: My Grandmother (in the late 30's and early 40's) would put mashed potatoes on her moles and bandaid on top. They would drop off in two to three weeks... I have since heard that they require oxygen. That would cut off their supply. Also lends credence to the Duct Tape cure also... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.67/2173 - Release Date: 06/13/09 05:53:00
CSEIS?
What is EIS? Jess -Original Message- From: Thora Rasmussen [mailto:mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way ! Peter, Thanks, that's what I needed, a good recipe. And I think I will do my neck in the winter, when I can wear turtle necks. I have some other ones I can do this summer. I'll keep you all posted on how it goes. Thora -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:21 AM To: Shiona Phillips; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way ! Good afternoon All, I have used this method: 1) Scratch the surface of the mole this one time only with a sterilized needle. (rough it up good but within reason) 2) Spray a little EIS onto the mole. Let it dry. 3) Make a fresh paste for each application using castor oil and baking soda. (not too thin and runny or too dry and crusty) 4) Apply this paste over the mole 3 times daily and cover with a bandaid to keep the air out. (Can cover the whole thing with some duct tape also but be careful removing the tape...it can be hard on the skin) 5) Repeat the process for as much time as needed each day, always washing the area before the next application. It may take several days or up to 3 or more weeks but most moles will eventually come off if all steps are included and used faithfully. Have fun! Moles Away!! Peter - Original Message - From: Shiona Phillips hyasy...@freenetname.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way ! Not sure about moles but for skin tags it's worth trying colloidal silver before anything more drastic. I removed a skin tag by applying colloidal silver and after a few days it just dropped off. Also tried the duct tape method (actually suggested by my doctor), on a verouca and that worked too. Apparently it's the deprivation of oxygen method that knocks a verouca on the head, so this might be effective on skin tags and moles also.. As for skin tags, CS certainly worked for me! Shiona Day Sutton wrote: My Grandmother (in the late 30's and early 40's) would put mashed potatoes on her moles and bandaid on top. They would drop off in two to three weeks... I have since heard that they require oxygen. That would cut off their supply. Also lends credence to the Duct Tape cure also... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.67/2173 - Release Date: 06/13/09 05:53:00
Re: CSEIS?
See http://www.silvermedicine.org/about-silver.html - Steve N - Original Message - From: jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat Jun 13 12:11:43 2009 Subject: CSEIS? What is EIS? Jess -Original Message- From: Thora Rasmussen [mailto:mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way ! Peter, Thanks, that's what I needed, a good recipe. And I think I will do my neck in the winter, when I can wear turtle necks. I have some other ones I can do this summer. I'll keep you all posted on how it goes. Thora -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:21 AM To: Shiona Phillips; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way ! Good afternoon All, I have used this method: 1) Scratch the surface of the mole this one time only with a sterilized needle. (rough it up good but within reason) 2) Spray a little EIS onto the mole. Let it dry. 3) Make a fresh paste for each application using castor oil and baking soda. (not too thin and runny or too dry and crusty) 4) Apply this paste over the mole 3 times daily and cover with a bandaid to keep the air out. (Can cover the whole thing with some duct tape also but be careful removing the tape...it can be hard on the skin) 5) Repeat the process for as much time as needed each day, always washing the area before the next application. It may take several days or up to 3 or more weeks but most moles will eventually come off if all steps are included and used faithfully. Have fun! Moles Away!! Peter - Original Message - From: Shiona Phillips hyasy...@freenetname.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way ! Not sure about moles but for skin tags it's worth trying colloidal silver before anything more drastic. I removed a skin tag by applying colloidal silver and after a few days it just dropped off. Also tried the duct tape method (actually suggested by my doctor), on a verouca and that worked too. Apparently it's the deprivation of oxygen method that knocks a verouca on the head, so this might be effective on skin tags and moles also.. As for skin tags, CS certainly worked for me! Shiona Day Sutton wrote: My Grandmother (in the late 30's and early 40's) would put mashed potatoes on her moles and bandaid on top. They would drop off in two to three weeks... I have since heard that they require oxygen. That would cut off their supply. Also lends credence to the Duct Tape cure also... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.67/2173 - Release Date: 06/13/09 05:53:00
CSEIS and how it works?
Hi folks, I was having a thought the other day about Royal Rife and his machine, and this evoked a thought on the modus operandi of EIS. I was wondering if maybe the reason that silver in this form, works not because of the silver itself, but because of the electrical charge that the silver holds. As you know, I'm not knowledgeable like a lot of you out there, but this possibility struck me out of the blue. Could this be possible do you think? Over to you. Dee PS is it me, or has the list gone quiet? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
My doctor didn't say this to me, although I realize that this is not the sort of thing all doctors would be au fait on. She just said it was this mystery nerve pain aka fibromyalgia. It used to be known as fibrositis but now is known blanketly as fibromyalgia. My first doctor, however, *did* say it was shingles, (herpes) but I didn't believe him as I had no lesions. My friends doctor told her the same, although he threw in a bit of 'wear and tear' as the cause also, although it came suddenly, and went just as suddenly! The wear and tear must have worn off I concluded - LOL! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Kirsteen Wright Date: 24/02/2008 21:54:49 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS Immune system booster? On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Well, as I understand it, they call 'mystery nerve pain' fibromyalgia for want of a better word. In other words, no-one is really sure what causes it Yes there are a lot of theories but no definitive research but a diagnosis of fibromayalgia requires that at least a majority of the fibro points are extremely tender when pressed. There are 2 at the base of the skull,2 at the front of the neck, 2 on top of the shoulders sort of half way out, 2 on the shoulder blades at the front, 2 at the back either side of the spine, 2 at the elbows on the top of te arm, 2 inside the knees, 2 sort of at the top of the gluteus maximus and 2 nearer the outside of the hips. You really need a reliable chart to identify them. Many unidentified pains are referred to as myalgia but true fibromyalgia always involves these points. Kirsteen
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
Ian Davies wrote: I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! It does not boost the immune system. It boosts immunity. That is, it has no direct effect on the body's immune system, but rather kills pathogens directly, helping relieve the immune system. I prefer to say it relieves the immune system than boosts it. If she is having her immune system attacking her joints, then that is easy to stop. A round of CMO should stop that pretty quickly. But CMO without killing the pathogens that get the body started attacking itself will be of limited effectiveness. She need to follow the protocol of: 1. kill the pathogens. IE EIS 2. Take CMO to reset the immune system 3. Take supplements to rebuild the joints. The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. Yes, exactly. Marshall I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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faith gagne wrote: I think Boost is the totally appropriate word for something that provides support and assistance in protecting the body. I do not think that your own immune system would attack you unless you had AIDS or something. Your friend is splitting hairs.Faith G. There are many diseases caused by one's own immune system attacking your own tissues. Arthritis and lupus are just two of them. I am not aware of any evidence that AIDS is an autoimmune disease at all. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autoimmune_diseases for a list of about 50 of them. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Ian Davies mailto:blackyme...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:50 AM *Subject:* CSEIS Immune system booster? I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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My husband has a cousin, who took over her 100 yr old home after her mom died. They stripped it outside and inside. I went there at Christmas time, immediately I could smell mold. She was so taken aback and said there is no mold here only in the basement!!! What, i said, she said that the water is running in the basement on the floors and we haven't fixed it yet. I told her that the mold can crawl up the 100 yr old wood quickly as well as the cement, she dismissed this. She is very sick, the docs do not know what is wrong with her as she has gone to many, they are going to send her to the University for they think they may have to do a liver transplant. My call on this, i researched when she started to get sick it was when she started to remodel the home, they did not start from the foundation up but rather the middle and up. I believe the home is toxic and do not know if they actually corrected the problem or if the mold got a toe hold. They built a garage near the home without a curtain drain so now The home is still in the stud stage, i guess, she has lost 30 lbs in 2 weeks, 50 lbs since Jan 1st, and is not eating much but on a tremendous amt of antibiotics, which as you know, is made from yeast. I have tried to tell her but... she will not listen. I am at a loss. Everybody PooPoos this idea of mold. mary -- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: -- The katrina victims have a different problem than just formaldehyde. Dr Shoemaker went down there to help with the inevitable mold problem that was sure to erupt after the flooding, and he found many many people suffering from mold toxin related illness, before the trailers even got there. I am sure that many of them are unaware of the mold connection. There is a reliable, safe, simple vision test that will tell if a person has a biotoxin problem. Dr Shoemaker has it on his website, and has to have a nominal charge to cover his webcosts. It is only 15.00. On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Dan Nave wrote: Are you sure it is not from the effects formaldehyde poisoning, similar to that experienced by the Katrina victims in their new FEMA trailers? Dan You wrote: had just moved into a beautiful new flat Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott wrote: Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds a lot like what I have -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Okay, AIDS is an acquired immune deficiency caused by the virus HIV. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: Re: CSEIS Immune system booster? faith gagne wrote: I think Boost is the totally appropriate word for something that provides support and assistance in protecting the body. I do not think that your own immune system would attack you unless you had AIDS or something. Your friend is splitting hairs.Faith G. There are many diseases caused by one's own immune system attacking your own tissues. Arthritis and lupus are just two of them. I am not aware of any evidence that AIDS is an autoimmune disease at all. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autoimmune_diseases for a list of about 50 of them. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Ian Davies mailto:blackyme...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:50 AM *Subject:* CSEIS Immune system booster? I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEIS Immune system booster?
Thank you Marshall. It does not boost the immune system, it boosts immunity. Perfect. What would the suggested protocol be for the administration of the EIS? Ian in Spain Ian Davies wrote: I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! It does not boost the immune system. It boosts immunity. That is, it has no direct effect on the body's immune system, but rather kills pathogens directly, helping relieve the immune system. I prefer to say it relieves the immune system than boosts it. If she is having her immune system attacking her joints, then that is easy to stop. A round of CMO should stop that pretty quickly. But CMO without killing the pathogens that get the body started attacking itself will be of limited effectiveness. She need to follow the protocol of: 1. kill the pathogens. IE EIS 2. Take CMO to reset the immune system 3. Take supplements to rebuild the joints. The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. Yes, exactly. Marshall I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
I would take orally, one or more oucnes at a time, depending on severity. I would also add about 1/2 teaspoon of H2O2 per gallon of EIS to enhance its effectiveness. Marshall Ian Davies wrote: Thank you Marshall. It does not boost the immune system, it boosts immunity. Perfect. What would the suggested protocol be for the administration of the EIS? Ian in Spain Ian Davies wrote: I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! It does not boost the immune system. It boosts immunity. That is, it has no direct effect on the body's immune system, but rather kills pathogens directly, helping relieve the immune system. I prefer to say it relieves the immune system than boosts it. If she is having her immune system attacking her joints, then that is easy to stop. A round of CMO should stop that pretty quickly. But CMO without killing the pathogens that get the body started attacking itself will be of limited effectiveness. She need to follow the protocol of: 1. kill the pathogens. IE EIS 2. Take CMO to reset the immune system 3. Take supplements to rebuild the joints. The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. Yes, exactly. Marshall I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
Did you have chicken pox as a child though? If you did, this is the herpes virus which then lays dormant sometimes throughout someone's life, and then manifests itself as shingles sometimes. I think it is what is behind things like fibromyalgia or 'mystery nerve pain' as my doctor called it. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Kirsteen Wright Date: 23/02/2008 23:00:16 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS Immune system booster? Have you found any research that suggets this. I've never found anyone relating herpes to M.E. I'm lucky I've never had herpes or shingles. Kirsteen
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
Why don't you say, it allows the immune system to rest, as in, not work so hard?... Dan Ian Davies wrote: I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
Are you sure it is not from the effects formaldehyde poisoning, similar to that experienced by the Katrina victims in their new FEMA trailers? Dan You wrote: had just moved into a beautiful new flat Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott scottie592...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds a lot like what I have Hi Scott You could try http://www.mechat.co.uk/ there's a lot of links there. Unfortunately, over here, the psychiatric brigade hijacked the funding for research and of course won't let go so there's very little biomedical research done on it. We're still frequently told it's all in our heads and all we need is some CBT to persuade us we're not ill and we'll be fine. Despite that we're not allowed to donate organs or blood and the changes in the brain stem are showing up on autopsies and it can now officially be given as a cause of death. If you can afford the private tests you can also show the degeneration in the mitochondria, and the ATp / Awhatsits imbalance. As there is so little real research, there are many theories about what causes it but no real proof, therefore no real treatment. Lumping M.E. in with cronic fatigue also blurs the edges since fatigue can occur in so many totally unrelated conditions from depression to post viral illness etc. When I was struck down by it (and I really was felled) I was healthy, exercised regularly, was in a challenging job I loved, ate a wholefood, mainly organic diet, carefully supplemented, practised the Silva method of postive thinking had just moved into a beautiful new flat and generally adored life. Within a couple of weeks I was virtuall housebound, frequently bedbound with horrendous vertigo and a whole catalogue of digestive, cognative and motor complaints. That was 18 months ago, in many ways I'm worse now and haven't worked since. I'm extremely limited in my abilities and any attempt to push the boundaries leads to such loss of muscle control that I can't even stay upright but have to be picked off the floor and carried to bed. On a really good day I might make it out but I'll pay for it by being bedbound for 2 or 3 days after it. But, hey, I'm by no means the worst affected, there are a lot of people an awful lot worse off with it than me. And there has been some improvement on the cognative side. At first I couldn't read more than a paragraph or watch more tan 10 minutes of tv. Now, although I'm nowhere near the level of academic research I used to do for fun, on a good day, I can manage things like emails and sometimes watch a whole program. Just don't ask me to remember it afterwards :-) Hope you find someting useful Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
