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Hi Jason, Many thinks for additional help/information you have given me. I will take all suggestions into account. Melly
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Hi Melly: Humic/fulvic acid is a great combination, but alone is not usually enough to correct a moderate to serious imbalance in the body; not alone. I should note that I'm personally not the biggest fan of homeopathic formulations such as cell salts; I've simply never been able to get them to work. I prefer a more direct approach, as there are ways to actually measure the effects. Some of the finest salt-based therapies can get very expensive. Standard sea salts are great, but subnstances such as Quinton Sea Plasma, high quality bamboo salt, and Wright Salt. http://healthyfixx.com/showdown/2/himalayan-salt-vs-wright-salt For example, bamboo salt that has been roasted nine times is likely one of the purest and most potent salts on the planet. Not only are all of the necessary minerals present, but the salt has a negative ORP of between -300 and -500. This is an extraordinary amount of antioxidant power. However, it's my opinion that these higher quality salt therapies should be a third step in the process, in order to reduce the detox effect and get the most benefit of salt therapy, at a cellular level, or else they'll simply be used up nuetralizing acidic waste in the body. Adding green leafy nutrient-rich plants in-diet (at at least two cups per day), and balancing the body's electrolytes should ideally be done first, and this can be done far more affordably. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Melly Bag To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 22:52 Subject: CSAlkalizing-Cleansing Jason, Thank you so much for taking the time to write a nice outline and good info on what i should do to help my body get balanced. I will study the link you gave. I am not familiar with cell salt so i will have to research it too. I take humic-fulvic acid, can that take the place of sea minerals? I do take seaweeds once in a while and use sea salt. Again thanks. Melly
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Jason this is very interesting ad I am interested in changing my table salt from Himalayan to one of these salts. In your opinion what is the best of these salts?? Thanks Jason Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! From: Jason R Eaton ja...@eytonsearth.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:13 AM Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing-Cleansing Hi Melly: Humic/fulvic acid is a great combination, but alone is not usually enough to correct a moderate to serious imbalance in the body; not alone. I should note that I'm personally not the biggest fan of homeopathic formulations such as cell salts; I've simply never been able to get them to work. I prefer a more direct approach, as there are ways to actually measure the effects. Some of the finest salt-based therapies can get very expensive. Standard sea salts are great, but subnstances such as Quinton Sea Plasma, high quality bamboo salt, and Wright Salt. http://healthyfixx.com/showdown/2/himalayan-salt-vs-wright-salt For example, bamboo salt that has been roasted nine times is likely one of the purest and most potent salts on the planet. Not only are all of the necessary minerals present, but the salt has a negative ORP of between -300 and -500. This is an extraordinary amount of antioxidant power. However, it's my opinion that these higher quality salt therapies should be a third step in the process, in order to reduce the detox effect and get the most benefit of salt therapy, at a cellular level, or else they'll simply be used up nuetralizing acidic waste in the body. Adding green leafy nutrient-rich plants in-diet (at at least two cups per day), and balancing the body's electrolytes should ideally be done first, and this can be done far more affordably. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Melly Bag To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 22:52 Subject: CSAlkalizing-Cleansing Jason, Thank you so much for taking the time to write a nice outline and good info on what i should do to help my body get balanced. I will study the link you gave. I am not familiar with cell salt so i will have to research it too. I take humic-fulvic acid, can that take the place of sea minerals? I do take seaweeds once in a while and use sea salt. Again thanks. Melly
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Hi Paul: Don't get me wrong: I use Himalayan salt as well, especially for a great sea mineral bath. Wright salt doesn't taste very salty; it doesn't work very well as a culinary salt, although it is a great therapeutic salt. Real Salt by Redmond Trading Company is a very clean award winning culinary salt that is excellent for cooking and as a therapeutic salt. Bamboo salt (9X roasted) is the best; it is very potent and powerful. When used in cooking, it is excellent. However, when used in water it is very sulphorous, and smells like rotten eggs (when used in soups and as a seasoning with food, one doesn't notice it). If used alone as for therapeutic purposes, it's best to place it directly on the tongue, and then chase it with a glass of lemon water. Used in 1/4 teaspoon doses, it is a good supplement; used in 1/2 - 1 tsp. doses it can cause major detox reactions. In 1/4 tsp doses, it usually causes a 1/2 - 1 log increase in Ph within ten minutes, followed by a drop by 1.5x. Therefore, it is similiar to how baking soda works in the body, although the pH spikes with baking soda tend to be more severe. The increase in Ph is indicative of the alkalzing power of the salt, and the excess drop in pH is indicative of its cleansing power in stripping/eliminating acids. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Paul Steel To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 08:17 Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing-Cleansing Jason this is very interesting ad I am interested in changing my table salt from Himalayan to one of these salts. In your opinion what is the best of these salts?? Thanks Jason Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get! -- From: Jason R Eaton ja...@eytonsearth.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:13 AM Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing-Cleansing Hi Melly: Humic/fulvic acid is a great combination, but alone is not usually enough to correct a moderate to serious imbalance in the body; not alone. I should note that I'm personally not the biggest fan of homeopathic formulations such as cell salts; I've simply never been able to get them to work. I prefer a more direct approach, as there are ways to actually measure the effects. Some of the finest salt-based therapies can get very expensive. Standard sea salts are great, but subnstances such as Quinton Sea Plasma, high quality bamboo salt, and Wright Salt. http://healthyfixx.com/showdown/2/himalayan-salt-vs-wright-salt For example, bamboo salt that has been roasted nine times is likely one of the purest and most potent salts on the planet. Not only are all of the necessary minerals present, but the salt has a negative ORP of between -300 and -500. This is an extraordinary amount of antioxidant power. However, it's my opinion that these higher quality salt therapies should be a third step in the process, in order to reduce the detox effect and get the most benefit of salt therapy, at a cellular level, or else they'll simply be used up nuetralizing acidic waste in the body. Adding green leafy nutrient-rich plants in-diet (at at least two cups per day), and balancing the body's electrolytes should ideally be done first, and this can be done far more affordably. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Melly Bag To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 22:52 Subject: CSAlkalizing-Cleansing Jason, Thank you so much for taking the time to write a nice outline and good info on what i should do to help my body get balanced. I will study the link you gave. I am not familiar with cell salt so i will have to research it too. I take humic-fulvic acid, can that take the place of sea minerals? I do take seaweeds once in a while and use sea salt. Again thanks. Melly
CSAlkalizing-Cleansing
Jason, Thank you so much for taking the time to write a nice outline and good info on what i should do to help my body get balanced. I will study the link you gave. I am not familiar with cell salt so i will have to research it too. I take humic-fulvic acid, can that take the place of sea minerals? I do take seaweeds once in a while and use sea salt. Again thanks. Melly
RE: CSAlkalizing
Use the purest water you can possibly get and nothing but. Anything else and you have no idea what you are making and anything else in that water except water WILL make everything it can. Just-the-water will make silver oxide and silver hydroxide as byproducts. Ode At 08:15 AM 10/6/2009 -0400, you wrote: I hate to admit it -- but I'm *totally* confused now. I made several batches of EIS and stored them in a half gallon container. Now being 3 days old it's definitely taken on a metallic type taste. I used DW in most of the batches and forgot to use it one time and wound up using our tap water which is actually well water. We do have a higher level of iron in ours so we use a Brita filter when we drink it. Should I be adding a pinch of salt to my water? And could I stick with my well water (after awhile DW does add up in cost -- since I'm not working)! And if I use salt...is Himalayan sea salt ok? Thx Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Jonathon, I ran across similar accounts when I researched ionized water a couple of years ago. I have used all types of water purification devices in the past but now prefer my ionizer. My only real complaint is that it doesn't remove as much flouride as I'd like. I realize that the debates regarding distilled or reverse osmosis water vs. ionized water will probably never end. That's o.k. I don't mean to start an off-topic war here on the list with my remarks. There is probably never any universal best way to treat water but I have settled, at least for now, with ionized water for reasons of unbeatable taste (in my opinion), the benefits of mineralized water made to order, along with acidic water when needed. By using the finest prefilter available for the unit it also serves as a reasonably good purifier. Peter - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:43 PM Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Tokyo Broadcasting System ran a series about alakaline/acid water machines some years ago. A man who was to lose his foot due to diabetic gangrene saved his foot in hospital by soaking it in acid water (which alkaline water machines make as runoff, or by selecting the acid setting.) The acidic water healed his foot. He also had to drink three liters of alkaline water per day. This partially reversed the diabetes to the extent that he greatly cut back on insulin use. The Isle of Langeurs (sp?) that produces insulin also recovered and started production again, according to the MDs at the hospital. This may tie in with someone's recent claim that gastric bypass surgery reverses diabetes. I know nothing about that, but alkaline water might have some bearing on gastric acid effects on insulin production. Just speculation, but interesting. I concur with the observation that commercial alkaline water output has a superb taste. It makes wonderful tea, too. The same machine has worked well for me for more than 10 years -- worth every penny of the purchase. It's a shame they aren't widely sold outside Japan. Mass production brings the price down to reasonable levels. On Tuesday, Oct 6, 2009, at 23:06 Asia/Tokyo, Peter Converse wrote: Some say that ionized water has restructured molecules I think. I'm no chemist and can't refute or confirm that statement but I will say that it's the only water which I have ever received die-off from drinking (Herxheimer effect). That being said, it hasn't cured me of anything, that's for sure! (except for fat wallet syndrome) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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It isn't the same as one container alone would have silver, vs one container out of two not having silver...though both containers may well have OH [-] anions. Like I said, I don't know why it worked, [or if it really and completely did what I wanted ] but it did SORTA prove a point concerning silver and H2O2 and what contributes what flavor. Ode At 12:22 PM 10/6/2009 -0500, you wrote: I'm not sure I buy into your conclusions about your test. There are no ions being exchanged from one jar to the other. This is like running two cells in series. Each cell therefore has approximately half the voltage across it. One cell has silver for the positive electrode and stainless steel for the negative electrode. This cell makes normal colloidal silver. The other cell has stainless steel for the positive electrode and silver for the negative electrode. This cell makes no CS and presumably does not add metal into the water via electrolysis. This cell could be duplicated by using the silver puppy operating in one water cell with a stainless steel positive electrode and a silver negative electrode. Do that and see if the result is the same as the one jar in your experiment... Dan On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver ions. Date 2006 Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to make an electrical connection. Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the arrangement for a while. [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other bitter. Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the other had no effect [no silver ions] Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which have similar radical Oxygen dangle atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yes, it will definitely lower the pH significantly. You do need to monitor pH though, as it can easily get too alkaline. If that happens you need to put less into each gallon of water. If you monitor your morning pH urine, and use that as a guide you should be able to narrow down just how much you need to add to each gallon to keep you in the optimum area. For me it is somewhat difficult since my wife is needing a lot more than I am, so I am alternating between drinking her super alkalized water, and normal water from the Jupiter, whereas she is only drinking from the super alkalized water. Also if you are overweight and diabetic you need to monitor your sugar, as this seems to burn the fat pretty quickly causing an increase in blood sugar, even if eating nothing with any carbohydrates in it. You should also monitor blood pressure to make sure you are not in the minority of people who respond to high sodium intake with increased blood pressure. (note that the salt diet for lyme and baking soda and maple syrup diet for cancer both have high levels of sodium as well, so I would not do this if doing either of these or other high sodium diets). This information is for research only. I am not a doctor and am not giving any medical advise. I am only providing information on what I am doing and the results of this research. Anyone following what I am doing needs to do their own research and make their own decision on their health. Marshall Roger Barker wrote: Hi Marshall, our tap/drinking water hovers around a pH of 8. What I'd like to ask is, would your protocol laid out below be a good addition to our drinking water to lower body pH? Cheers, Roger B NZ On 6/10/2009, at 6:58 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I am using the following protocol: 1. Put one level tablespoon of citric acid and one level tablespoon of baking soda into a drinking glass of at least 8 ounces. 2. add about 2 ounces of water. When foaming diminishes, stir until foam once again diminishes 3. add 1/4 teaspoon of soda. Stir until foaming diminishes again. It is normal for this to get very cold. 4. add 2 or 3 ounces of water and another 1/4 teaspoon of soda and stir. If it fizzes, repeat. After adding soda about 3 times it should not fizz any more when adding. At that point it should be right at a pH of 7 or slightly aklaline. If you taste it before adding the additional baking soda it should taste somewhat sour. Once it has quit fizzing it should taste salty. You can always use a pH test as well, you are aiming for a pH of 7 or slightly over. Either put the entire amount into 5 gallons of water, or add sufficient water to have 5 ounces, and add one ounce to a gallon of water. If you have it, add 4 drops of MMS to each gallon as well ( or 15 drops of water alkalizing drops). It is important that the water be a pH of 7 or more at this point, or it will activate the MSM, which you do NOT want. If drinking this water be sure to take a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement. This water contains significant sodium and you need to make sure and keep your electrolytes balanced. Also monitor blood pressure if you are sensitive to sodium, as it may increase blood pressure in some people due to the sodium content. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall Dudley wrote: Yes, it will definitely lower the pH significantly. Sorry, that should have been raise the pH, or lower the acid. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Many thanks Marshall. I am having trouble keeping my pH up above the 6.5 range so will do some tests as you've outlined below. Fortunately I don't suffer from weight or blood pressure problems and am not on any special 'diets' but I'll tread softly and see how it goes. Cheers and thanks again, Roger B NZ On 8/10/2009, at 4:38 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Yes, it will definitely lower the pH significantly. You do need to monitor pH though, as it can easily get too alkaline. If that happens you need to put less into each gallon of water. If you monitor your morning pH urine, and use that as a guide you should be able to narrow down just how much you need to add to each gallon to keep you in the optimum area. For me it is somewhat difficult since my wife is needing a lot more than I am, so I am alternating between drinking her super alkalized water, and normal water from the Jupiter, whereas she is only drinking from the super alkalized water. Also if you are overweight and diabetic you need to monitor your sugar, as this seems to burn the fat pretty quickly causing an increase in blood sugar, even if eating nothing with any carbohydrates in it. You should also monitor blood pressure to make sure you are not in the minority of people who respond to high sodium intake with increased blood pressure. (note that the salt diet for lyme and baking soda and maple syrup diet for cancer both have high levels of sodium as well, so I would not do this if doing either of these or other high sodium diets). This information is for research only. I am not a doctor and am not giving any medical advise. I am only providing information on what I am doing and the results of this research. Anyone following what I am doing needs to do their own research and make their own decision on their health. Marshall Roger Barker wrote: Hi Marshall, our tap/drinking water hovers around a pH of 8. What I'd like to ask is, would your protocol laid out below be a good addition to our drinking water to lower body pH? Cheers, Roger B NZ On 6/10/2009, at 6:58 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I am using the following protocol: 1. Put one level tablespoon of citric acid and one level tablespoon of baking soda into a drinking glass of at least 8 ounces. 2. add about 2 ounces of water. When foaming diminishes, stir until foam once again diminishes 3. add 1/4 teaspoon of soda. Stir until foaming diminishes again. It is normal for this to get very cold. 4. add 2 or 3 ounces of water and another 1/4 teaspoon of soda and stir. If it fizzes, repeat. After adding soda about 3 times it should not fizz any more when adding. At that point it should be right at a pH of 7 or slightly aklaline. If you taste it before adding the additional baking soda it should taste somewhat sour. Once it has quit fizzing it should taste salty. You can always use a pH test as well, you are aiming for a pH of 7 or slightly over. Either put the entire amount into 5 gallons of water, or add sufficient water to have 5 ounces, and add one ounce to a gallon of water. If you have it, add 4 drops of MMS to each gallon as well ( or 15 drops of water alkalizing drops). It is important that the water be a pH of 7 or more at this point, or it will activate the MSM, which you do NOT want. If drinking this water be sure to take a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement. This water contains significant sodium and you need to make sure and keep your electrolytes balanced. Also monitor blood pressure if you are sensitive to sodium, as it may increase blood pressure in some people due to the sodium content. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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That was what I thought you meant :-) Cheers, Roger On 8/10/2009, at 5:50 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Marshall Dudley wrote: Yes, it will definitely lower the pH significantly. Sorry, that should have been raise the pH, or lower the acid. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAlkalizing
Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver ions. Date 2006 Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to make an electrical connection. Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the arrangement for a while. [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other bitter. Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the other had no effect [no silver ions] Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which have similar radical Oxygen dangle atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] Date 2009 Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water makers Least-ways, in *this* one... http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm Frequently Asked Questions Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind? A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to make the water conductive so that the ionizer will work. Ohhh Kay. If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, sodium hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline. From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might actually be doing. [Controllable Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz blood is bloody salty] ..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt water when it hits the ole tummy] http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_Chemical_Cleaners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-from-water-salt.html Ode At 12:37 PM 10/5/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I hate to admit it -- but I'm *totally* confused now. I made several batches of EIS and stored them in a half gallon container. Now being 3 days old it's definitely taken on a metallic type taste. I used DW in most of the batches and forgot to use it one time and wound up using our tap water which is actually well water. We do have a higher level of iron in ours so we use a Brita filter when we drink it. Should I be adding a pinch of salt to my water? And could I stick with my well water (after awhile DW does add up in cost -- since I'm not working)! And if I use salt...is Himalayan sea salt ok? Thx Lisa -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver ions. Date 2006 Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to make an electrical connection. Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the arrangement for a while. [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other bitter. Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the other had no effect [no silver ions] Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which have similar radical Oxygen dangle atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] Date 2009 Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water makers Least-ways, in *this* one... http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm Frequently Asked Questions Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind? A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to make the water conductive so that the ionizer will work. Ohhh Kay. If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, sodium hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline. From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might actually be doing. [Controllable Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz blood is bloody salty] ..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt water when it hits the ole tummy] http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_C hemical_Cleaners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-f rom-water-salt.html Ode At 12:37 PM 10/5/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted
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...another note -- I have prill water too. Would this be the best to use over the DW and/or well water? -Original Message- From: Lisa [mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing I hate to admit it -- but I'm *totally* confused now. I made several batches of EIS and stored them in a half gallon container. Now being 3 days old it's definitely taken on a metallic type taste. I used DW in most of the batches and forgot to use it one time and wound up using our tap water which is actually well water. We do have a higher level of iron in ours so we use a Brita filter when we drink it. Should I be adding a pinch of salt to my water? And could I stick with my well water (after awhile DW does add up in cost -- since I'm not working)! And if I use salt...is Himalayan sea salt ok? Thx Lisa -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver ions. Date 2006 Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to make an electrical connection. Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the arrangement for a while. [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other bitter. Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the other had no effect [no silver ions] Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which have similar radical Oxygen dangle atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] Date 2009 Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water makers Least-ways, in *this* one... http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm Frequently Asked Questions Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind? A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to make the water conductive so that the ionizer will work. Ohhh Kay. If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, sodium hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline. From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might actually be doing. [Controllable Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz blood is bloody salty] ..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt water when it hits the ole tummy] http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_C hemical_Cleaners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-f rom-water-salt.html Ode At 12:37 PM 10/5/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease
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Hi Lisa, Stick to using DW or you'll be making other compounds you don't want. Peter - Original Message - From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:15 AM Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing I hate to admit it -- but I'm *totally* confused now. I made several batches of EIS and stored them in a half gallon container. Now being 3 days old it's definitely taken on a metallic type taste. I used DW in most of the batches and forgot to use it one time and wound up using our tap water which is actually well water. We do have a higher level of iron in ours so we use a Brita filter when we drink it. Should I be adding a pinch of salt to my water? And could I stick with my well water (after awhile DW does add up in cost -- since I'm not working)! And if I use salt...is Himalayan sea salt ok? Thx Lisa -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver ions. Date 2006 Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to make an electrical connection. Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the arrangement for a while. [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other bitter. Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the other had no effect [no silver ions] Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which have similar radical Oxygen dangle atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] Date 2009 Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water makers Least-ways, in *this* one... http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm Frequently Asked Questions Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind? A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to make the water conductive so that the ionizer will work. Ohhh Kay. If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, sodium hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline. From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might actually be doing. [Controllable Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz blood is bloody salty] ..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt water when it hits the ole tummy] http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_C hemical_Cleaners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-f rom-water-salt.html Ode At 12:37 PM 10/5/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since
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Hi All, I just ran a few quick tests which verify what Ode has said. I did pH testing using test strips on 4 liquid samples and came up with this result: 1) Tap Water - pH of ~6 2) Ionized water from Jupiter Neptune Ionizer which uses only tap water (no added salt or minerals unless you choose to...I don't) - pH of ~10 when pushed to the upper limit. 3) DW - pH of ~5 4) Fresh EIS (made yesterday, at least and made using DW) - pH of ~6 My ionized water when made to around pH 7 to 7.5 tastes wonderfully fresh and clean, literally like a mountain spring, unlike my tap water, DW or RO water or most other waters I have tasted. I don't sell these ionizers but I love mine! In the first few weeks I used my ionized water I had to work up in quantity and pH very slowly because of the die-off effect it created in me. I couldn't believe it at the time so repeated the experiment several times to verify the findings (which always remained the same...die-off) Some say that ionized water has restructured molecules I think. I'm no chemist and can't refute or confirm that statement but I will say that it's the only water which I have ever received die-off from drinking (Herxheimer effect). That being said, it hasn't cured me of anything, that's for sure! (except for fat wallet syndrome) My ionizer uses only the minerals in the tap water to do its thing but can be used with supplemental calcium if desired. Peter - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:42 AM Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver ions. Date 2006 Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to make an electrical connection. Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the arrangement for a while. [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other bitter. Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the other had no effect [no silver ions] Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which have similar radical Oxygen dangle atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] Date 2009 Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water makers Least-ways, in *this* one... http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm Frequently Asked Questions Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind? A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to make the water conductive so that the ionizer will work. Ohhh Kay. If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, sodium hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline. From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might actually be doing. [Controllable Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz blood is bloody salty] ..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt water when it hits the ole tummy] http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_Chemical_Cleaners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-from-water-salt.html Ode At 12:37 PM 10/5/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8
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Hi Peter, Will you share what ionizer you have? -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: Ode Coyote; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Hi All, I just ran a few quick tests which verify what Ode has said. I did pH testing using test strips on 4 liquid samples and came up with this result: 1) Tap Water - pH of ~6 2) Ionized water from Jupiter Neptune Ionizer which uses only tap water (no added salt or minerals unless you choose to...I don't) - pH of ~10 when pushed to the upper limit. 3) DW - pH of ~5 4) Fresh EIS (made yesterday, at least and made using DW) - pH of ~6 My ionized water when made to around pH 7 to 7.5 tastes wonderfully fresh and clean, literally like a mountain spring, unlike my tap water, DW or RO water or most other waters I have tasted. I don't sell these ionizers but I love mine! In the first few weeks I used my ionized water I had to work up in quantity and pH very slowly because of the die-off effect it created in me. I couldn't believe it at the time so repeated the experiment several times to verify the findings (which always remained the same...die-off) Some say that ionized water has restructured molecules I think. I'm no chemist and can't refute or confirm that statement but I will say that it's the only water which I have ever received die-off from drinking (Herxheimer effect). That being said, it hasn't cured me of anything, that's for sure! (except for fat wallet syndrome) My ionizer uses only the minerals in the tap water to do its thing but can be used with supplemental calcium if desired. Peter - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:42 AM Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver ions. Date 2006 Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to make an electrical connection. Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the arrangement for a while. [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other bitter. Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the other had no effect [no silver ions] Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which have similar radical Oxygen dangle atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] Date 2009 Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water makers Least-ways, in *this* one... http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm Frequently Asked Questions Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind? A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to make the water conductive so that the ionizer will work. Ohhh Kay. If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, sodium hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline. From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might actually be doing. [Controllable Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz blood is bloody salty] ..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt water when it hits the ole tummy] http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_C hemical_Cleaners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-f rom-water-salt.html Ode At 12:37 PM 10/5/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my
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I stopped drinking the super alkaline water ( sodium citrate ) yesterday since my pH was 8 or higher, and ate acid foods, like turkey, and drunk a coke. My pH is now around 7.2 which is right where I want it. My wife's pH which has started at 5.5 or lower, and was 6.5 yesterday came in right at 7.0 to 7.2 today. Interestingly enough she is losing 2 to 3 pounds a day now, without significant exercise. We are having a bit of a problem keeping her glucose down. It seems that the body in trying to find acid to stabilize the pH is stripping her acid fat reserves, which is either converting to glucose, or being burned in place of glucose, elevating her glucose either way. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Marshall! I'm getting into CS and finding it has amazing healing! I also started making my own Organic Soy Milk. The very first glass that i drank. Brought my glucose down 100 points and has kept it down! That was about 2 years ago. Plus, if you go into some of the quilities of SM you will find that it does a lady's systems a lot of good! I even make a yogart from it! My dr. at VA recomended me to try it. But he is into natural meds. being of Indian descent. Let me know if you need help in choosing a maker or whatever. Since i've had some time to evaluate it. The VA even gives me SM when i'm in thier hospital! Regards, Larry From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, October 6, 2009 9:01:35 AM Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing I stopped drinking the super alkaline water ( sodium citrate ) yesterday since my pH was 8 or higher, and ate acid foods, like turkey, and drunk a coke. My pH is now around 7.2 which is right where I want it. My wife's pH which has started at 5.5 or lower, and was 6.5 yesterday came in right at 7.0 to 7.2 today. Interestingly enough she is losing 2 to 3 pounds a day now, without significant exercise. We are having a bit of a problem keeping her glucose down. It seems that the body in trying to find acid to stabilize the pH is stripping her acid fat reserves, which is either converting to glucose, or being burned in place of glucose, elevating her glucose either way. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I'm not sure I buy into your conclusions about your test. There are no ions being exchanged from one jar to the other. This is like running two cells in series. Each cell therefore has approximately half the voltage across it. One cell has silver for the positive electrode and stainless steel for the negative electrode. This cell makes normal colloidal silver. The other cell has stainless steel for the positive electrode and silver for the negative electrode. This cell makes no CS and presumably does not add metal into the water via electrolysis. This cell could be duplicated by using the silver puppy operating in one water cell with a stainless steel positive electrode and a silver negative electrode. Do that and see if the result is the same as the one jar in your experiment... Dan On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver ions. Date 2006 Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to make an electrical connection. Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the arrangement for a while. [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other bitter. Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the other had no effect [no silver ions] Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which have similar radical Oxygen dangle atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I did...Jupiter Neptune...love it! PC - Original Message - From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing Hi Peter, Will you share what ionizer you have? -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: Ode Coyote; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Hi All, I just ran a few quick tests which verify what Ode has said. I did pH testing using test strips on 4 liquid samples and came up with this result: 1) Tap Water - pH of ~6 2) Ionized water from Jupiter Neptune Ionizer which uses only tap water (no added salt or minerals unless you choose to...I don't) - pH of ~10 when pushed to the upper limit. 3) DW - pH of ~5 4) Fresh EIS (made yesterday, at least and made using DW) - pH of ~6 My ionized water when made to around pH 7 to 7.5 tastes wonderfully fresh and clean, literally like a mountain spring, unlike my tap water, DW or RO water or most other waters I have tasted. I don't sell these ionizers but I love mine! In the first few weeks I used my ionized water I had to work up in quantity and pH very slowly because of the die-off effect it created in me. I couldn't believe it at the time so repeated the experiment several times to verify the findings (which always remained the same...die-off) Some say that ionized water has restructured molecules I think. I'm no chemist and can't refute or confirm that statement but I will say that it's the only water which I have ever received die-off from drinking (Herxheimer effect). That being said, it hasn't cured me of anything, that's for sure! (except for fat wallet syndrome) My ionizer uses only the minerals in the tap water to do its thing but can be used with supplemental calcium if desired. Peter - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:42 AM Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver ions. Date 2006 Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to make an electrical connection. Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the arrangement for a while. [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other bitter. Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the other had no effect [no silver ions] Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which have similar radical Oxygen dangle atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] Date 2009 Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water makers Least-ways, in *this* one... http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm Frequently Asked Questions Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind? A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to make the water conductive so that the ionizer will work. Ohhh Kay. If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, sodium hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline. From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might actually be doing. [Controllable Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz blood is bloody salty] ..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt water when it hits the ole tummy] http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_C hemical_Cleaners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-f rom-water-salt.html Ode At 12:37 PM 10/5/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From
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Hi Marshall, our tap/drinking water hovers around a pH of 8. What I'd like to ask is, would your protocol laid out below be a good addition to our drinking water to lower body pH? Cheers, Roger B NZ On 6/10/2009, at 6:58 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I am using the following protocol: 1. Put one level tablespoon of citric acid and one level tablespoon of baking soda into a drinking glass of at least 8 ounces. 2. add about 2 ounces of water. When foaming diminishes, stir until foam once again diminishes 3. add 1/4 teaspoon of soda. Stir until foaming diminishes again. It is normal for this to get very cold. 4. add 2 or 3 ounces of water and another 1/4 teaspoon of soda and stir. If it fizzes, repeat. After adding soda about 3 times it should not fizz any more when adding. At that point it should be right at a pH of 7 or slightly aklaline. If you taste it before adding the additional baking soda it should taste somewhat sour. Once it has quit fizzing it should taste salty. You can always use a pH test as well, you are aiming for a pH of 7 or slightly over. Either put the entire amount into 5 gallons of water, or add sufficient water to have 5 ounces, and add one ounce to a gallon of water. If you have it, add 4 drops of MMS to each gallon as well ( or 15 drops of water alkalizing drops). It is important that the water be a pH of 7 or more at this point, or it will activate the MSM, which you do NOT want. If drinking this water be sure to take a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement. This water contains significant sodium and you need to make sure and keep your electrolytes balanced. Also monitor blood pressure if you are sensitive to sodium, as it may increase blood pressure in some people due to the sodium content. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Tokyo Broadcasting System ran a series about alakaline/acid water machines some years ago. A man who was to lose his foot due to diabetic gangrene saved his foot in hospital by soaking it in acid water (which alkaline water machines make as runoff, or by selecting the acid setting.) The acidic water healed his foot. He also had to drink three liters of alkaline water per day. This partially reversed the diabetes to the extent that he greatly cut back on insulin use. The Isle of Langeurs (sp?) that produces insulin also recovered and started production again, according to the MDs at the hospital. This may tie in with someone's recent claim that gastric bypass surgery reverses diabetes. I know nothing about that, but alkaline water might have some bearing on gastric acid effects on insulin production. Just speculation, but interesting. I concur with the observation that commercial alkaline water output has a superb taste. It makes wonderful tea, too. The same machine has worked well for me for more than 10 years -- worth every penny of the purchase. It's a shame they aren't widely sold outside Japan. Mass production brings the price down to reasonable levels. On Tuesday, Oct 6, 2009, at 23:06 Asia/Tokyo, Peter Converse wrote: Some say that ionized water has restructured molecules I think. I'm no chemist and can't refute or confirm that statement but I will say that it's the only water which I have ever received die-off from drinking (Herxheimer effect). That being said, it hasn't cured me of anything, that's for sure! (except for fat wallet syndrome) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I am using the following protocol: 1. Put one level tablespoon of citric acid and one level tablespoon of baking soda into a drinking glass of at least 8 ounces. 2. add about 2 ounces of water. When foaming diminishes, stir until foam once again diminishes 3. add 1/4 teaspoon of soda. Stir until foaming diminishes again. It is normal for this to get very cold. 4. add 2 or 3 ounces of water and another 1/4 teaspoon of soda and stir. If it fizzes, repeat. After adding soda about 3 times it should not fizz any more when adding. At that point it should be right at a pH of 7 or slightly aklaline. If you taste it before adding the additional baking soda it should taste somewhat sour. Once it has quit fizzing it should taste salty. You can always use a pH test as well, you are aiming for a pH of 7 or slightly over. Either put the entire amount into 5 gallons of water, or add sufficient water to have 5 ounces, and add one ounce to a gallon of water. If you have it, add 4 drops of MMS to each gallon as well ( or 15 drops of water alkalizing drops). It is important that the water be a pH of 7 or more at this point, or it will activate the MSM, which you do NOT want. If drinking this water be sure to take a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement. This water contains significant sodium and you need to make sure and keep your electrolytes balanced. Also monitor blood pressure if you are sensitive to sodium, as it may increase blood pressure in some people due to the sodium content. Marshall Lisa wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Marshall. Towards the end -- is that a typo when you wrote MSM and not wanting to activate it? (I assume yes but since this would be the first time for me to do this I want to make sure -- I just ordered my MMS and it should be here in the next couple days). Is this alkalizing water anything like Ionized water? Or is that completely different? L -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing I am using the following protocol: 1. Put one level tablespoon of citric acid and one level tablespoon of baking soda into a drinking glass of at least 8 ounces. 2. add about 2 ounces of water. When foaming diminishes, stir until foam once again diminishes 3. add 1/4 teaspoon of soda. Stir until foaming diminishes again. It is normal for this to get very cold. 4. add 2 or 3 ounces of water and another 1/4 teaspoon of soda and stir. If it fizzes, repeat. After adding soda about 3 times it should not fizz any more when adding. At that point it should be right at a pH of 7 or slightly aklaline. If you taste it before adding the additional baking soda it should taste somewhat sour. Once it has quit fizzing it should taste salty. You can always use a pH test as well, you are aiming for a pH of 7 or slightly over. Either put the entire amount into 5 gallons of water, or add sufficient water to have 5 ounces, and add one ounce to a gallon of water. If you have it, add 4 drops of MMS to each gallon as well ( or 15 drops of water alkalizing drops). It is important that the water be a pH of 7 or more at this point, or it will activate the MSM, which you do NOT want. If drinking this water be sure to take a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement. This water contains significant sodium and you need to make sure and keep your electrolytes balanced. Also monitor blood pressure if you are sensitive to sodium, as it may increase blood pressure in some people due to the sodium content. Marshall Lisa wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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You do not want to activate it. When you activate it you are producing chlorine dioxide, which will dissipate over the next few hours.. You want the sodium chlorite unchanged when you drink it so that it will alkalize your body. (Actually if you activate it with citric acid, that produces sodium citrate plus chlorine dioxide, and the chlorine dioxide dissipates, leaving behind sodium citrate. Thus all you are doing in the end is adding a little more sodium citrate to what you already are making, a very expensive way to do it). Ionizing water is a good first step for getting alkaline water. Depending on the mineral content of the water, I would say that adding the sodium citrate as given is probably 20 to 100 times as effective as just alkaline water alone. I personally am putting the sodium citrate and MMS INTO ionized water, but don't think it necessary to do so, and probably only adds 1% to 5% to the alkalinity.. I did make a mistake below though. I said 15 drops of the commercial alkalizing drops per gallon of water. It should have been quart of water for 15 drops, which is 60 drops per gallon. Marshall Lisa wrote: Thanks Marshall. Towards the end -- is that a typo when you wrote MSM and not wanting to activate it? (I assume yes but since this would be the first time for me to do this I want to make sure -- I just ordered my MMS and it should be here in the next couple days). Is this alkalizing water anything like Ionized water? Or is that completely different? L -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing I am using the following protocol: 1. Put one level tablespoon of citric acid and one level tablespoon of baking soda into a drinking glass of at least 8 ounces. 2. add about 2 ounces of water. When foaming diminishes, stir until foam once again diminishes 3. add 1/4 teaspoon of soda. Stir until foaming diminishes again. It is normal for this to get very cold. 4. add 2 or 3 ounces of water and another 1/4 teaspoon of soda and stir. If it fizzes, repeat. After adding soda about 3 times it should not fizz any more when adding. At that point it should be right at a pH of 7 or slightly aklaline. If you taste it before adding the additional baking soda it should taste somewhat sour. Once it has quit fizzing it should taste salty. You can always use a pH test as well, you are aiming for a pH of 7 or slightly over. Either put the entire amount into 5 gallons of water, or add sufficient water to have 5 ounces, and add one ounce to a gallon of water. If you have it, add 4 drops of MMS to each gallon as well ( or 15 drops of water alkalizing drops). It is important that the water be a pH of 7 or more at this point, or it will activate the MSM, which you do NOT want. If drinking this water be sure to take a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement. This water contains significant sodium and you need to make sure and keep your electrolytes balanced. Also monitor blood pressure if you are sensitive to sodium, as it may increase blood pressure in some people due to the sodium content. Marshall Lisa wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Careful with those who need to avoid sodium Frank ND - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing I am using the following protocol: 1. Put one level tablespoon of citric acid and one level tablespoon of baking soda into a drinking glass of at least 8 ounces. 2. add about 2 ounces of water. When foaming diminishes, stir until foam once again diminishes 3. add 1/4 teaspoon of soda. Stir until foaming diminishes again. It is normal for this to get very cold. 4. add 2 or 3 ounces of water and another 1/4 teaspoon of soda and stir. If it fizzes, repeat. After adding soda about 3 times it should not fizz any more when adding. At that point it should be right at a pH of 7 or slightly aklaline. If you taste it before adding the additional baking soda it should taste somewhat sour. Once it has quit fizzing it should taste salty. You can always use a pH test as well, you are aiming for a pH of 7 or slightly over. Either put the entire amount into 5 gallons of water, or add sufficient water to have 5 ounces, and add one ounce to a gallon of water. If you have it, add 4 drops of MMS to each gallon as well ( or 15 drops of water alkalizing drops). It is important that the water be a pH of 7 or more at this point, or it will activate the MSM, which you do NOT want. If drinking this water be sure to take a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement. This water contains significant sodium and you need to make sure and keep your electrolytes balanced. Also monitor blood pressure if you are sensitive to sodium, as it may increase blood pressure in some people due to the sodium content. Marshall Lisa wrote: Hi Marshall, Can you tell me how you make alkalized water? I think my pH is way off too and I'm interested in getting squared away! Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to 6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as most of her pains. Marshall Dianne France wrote: Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. Dianne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall, Ozarka sells water with magnesium and calcium citrate as well as baking soda. Melly --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Subject: CSAlkalizing To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 3:57 PM Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine. I am trying to get her alkalized and chelated. For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of MMS per quart of water in our water tank. I am looking at adding some additional minerals to the water. Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline when it hits the stomach. This immediately reacts with the stomach acid producing CO2, water and table salt. This can screw up digestion, and long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it. The alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium bicarbonate in the blood. Having to produce extra HCl in an empty stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the long term. Another consideration is that baking soda makes water taste pretty bad. So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are considered ideal for alkalizing the body. Potassium citrate, which is often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and calcium, unless they are balanced in the application. Sodium citrate however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in the form of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys. So I am considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well. Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are going as I try it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall, Also check out the sodium content of baking soda which might affect your wife's blood pressure. Melly --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote: From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 5:13 PM I'd be interested in getting myself balanced too -- would alkalizing be similar to getting the body's ph normal? And what is MMS? Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAlkalizing Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine. I am trying to get her alkalized and chelated. For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of MMS per quart of water in our water tank. I am looking at adding some additional minerals to the water. Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline when it hits the stomach. This immediately reacts with the stomach acid producing CO2, water and table salt. This can screw up digestion, and long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it. The alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium bicarbonate in the blood. Having to produce extra HCl in an empty stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the long term. Another consideration is that baking soda makes water taste pretty bad. So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are considered ideal for alkalizing the body. Potassium citrate, which is often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and calcium, unless they are balanced in the application. Sodium citrate however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in the form of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys. So I am considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well. Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are going as I try it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own. Turned out to be very easy. 1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder each in an 8 to 12 ounce glass 2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if you put more than this it might foam over) 3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue sititing until foaming diminishes 4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full. 5. stir until foaming stops. You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric acid left over. The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it it should have a slightly sour taste. If you take the pH it should be about 6.5 to 6.8 or so. Now add a little baking soda ( 1/4 teaspoon) and stir until foaming stops. Continue this until no foaming occurs after adding the soda. (this occurred on the 3rd addition for me) If you taste it it should taste salty, but not sour or bitter. If you test the pH it should measure between 7.0 and 7.2. You should have about 1 1/2 tablespoons of sodium citrate now. To alkalize the water, I have been putting one ounce of this solution into a gallon of water, actually putting the full amount into my 5 gallon container. If you taste the water after it is added, you can detect a slight amount of mineral taste, but it is very slight and not objectionable at all, at least to me. I would highly suggest taking a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement if you are drinking this water to be sure and maintain proper electrolyte balance. BTW, my urine pH when I tested it this morning was between 7.0 and 7.2, which is considered optimal, after drinking the water all day yesterday. Even my wife, who has had diabetes for 2 decades is testing optimal now. Unfortunately I do not have a baseline though since I did not get the testing paper until last night. I would watch my pH very carefully, if it gets too alkaline, then you need to use less in your water. Also I am thinking about using the undiluted solution in place of salt when cooking. That would be pretty cool, an alkalizing salt. Marshall Marshall Dudley wrote: Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are going as I try it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Lisa wrote: I'd be interested in getting myself balanced too -- would alkalizing be similar to getting the body's ph normal? Yes, since most people are acid, getting it normal requires alkalizing. And what is MMS? That is a term coined by Humble which means miracle mineral supplement. It is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite ( not chloride ), which was very popular as a cure all on the net about a year ago. It does have some nice properties, killing parasites is one of the things it does best. Marshall Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAlkalizing Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine. I am trying to get her alkalized and chelated. For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of MMS per quart of water in our water tank. I am looking at adding some additional minerals to the water. Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline when it hits the stomach. This immediately reacts with the stomach acid producing CO2, water and table salt. This can screw up digestion, and long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it. The alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium bicarbonate in the blood. Having to produce extra HCl in an empty stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the long term. Another consideration is that baking soda makes water taste pretty bad. So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are considered ideal for alkalizing the body. Potassium citrate, which is often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and calcium, unless they are balanced in the application. Sodium citrate however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in the form of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys. So I am considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well. Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are going as I try it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Sodium affects blood pressure of a minority of people, one out of 5, or something like that. We check her pressure several times a day, and it is typically running 115/65 with no meds now. So even if it bumped it by 5 or 10 mm, it would not be a concern. Marshall Melly Bag wrote: Marshall, Also check out the sodium content of baking soda which might affect your wife's blood pressure. Melly --- On *Thu, 10/1/09, Lisa /blacksa...@comcast.net/* wrote: From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net Subject: RE: CSAlkalizing To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 5:13 PM I'd be interested in getting myself balanced too -- would alkalizing be similar to getting the body's ph normal? And what is MMS? Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Subject: CSAlkalizing Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine. I am trying to get her alkalized and chelated. For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of MMS per quart of water in our water tank. I am looking at adding some additional minerals to the water. Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline when it hits the stomach. This immediately reacts with the stomach acid producing CO2, water and table salt. This can screw up digestion, and long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it. The alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium bicarbonate in the blood. Having to produce extra HCl in an empty stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the long term. Another consideration is that baking soda makes water taste pretty bad. So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are considered ideal for alkalizing the body. Potassium citrate, which is often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and calcium, unless they are balanced in the application. Sodium citrate however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in the form of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys. So I am considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well. Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are going as I try it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. Dianne Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:43:42 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own. Turned out to be very easy. 1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder each in an 8 to 12 ounce glass 2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if you put more than this it might foam over) 3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue sititing until foaming diminishes 4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full. 5. stir until foaming stops. You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric acid left over. The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it it should have a slightly sour taste. If you take the pH it should be about 6.5 to 6.8 or so. Now add a little baking soda ( 1/4 teaspoon) and stir until foaming stops. Continue this until no foaming occurs after adding the soda. (this occurred on the 3rd addition for me) If you taste it it should taste salty, but not sour or bitter. If you test the pH it should measure between 7.0 and 7.2. You should have about 1 1/2 tablespoons of sodium citrate now. To alkalize the water, I have been putting one ounce of this solution into a gallon of water, actually putting the full amount into my 5 gallon container. If you taste the water after it is added, you can detect a slight amount of mineral taste, but it is very slight and not objectionable at all, at least to me. I would highly suggest taking a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement if you are drinking this water to be sure and maintain proper electrolyte balance. BTW, my urine pH when I tested it this morning was between 7.0 and 7.2, which is considered optimal, after drinking the water all day yesterday. Even my wife, who has had diabetes for 2 decades is testing optimal now. Unfortunately I do not have a baseline though since I did not get the testing paper until last night. I would watch my pH very carefully, if it gets too alkaline, then you need to use less in your water. Also I am thinking about using the undiluted solution in place of salt when cooking. That would be pretty cool, an alkalizing salt. Marshall Marshall Dudley wrote: Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are going as I try it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
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Dianne wrote: I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. Dr.Young has a book out you should look at. It's pointing out that the body needs to be in an alkaline condition which will reverse the effects of diabetes. There's some info here you can watch = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHfnarU3Ha4 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I had my PH tested thru my doctor and I was alkaline. I still will watch the video. Thanks for sending it. Dianne Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:48:56 -1000 Subject: Re: CSAlkalizing From: papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Dianne wrote: I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. Dr.Young has a book out you should look at. It's pointing out that the body needs to be in an alkaline condition which will reverse the effects of diabetes. There's some info here you can watch = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHfnarU3Ha4 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
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Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine. I am trying to get her alkalized and chelated. For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of MMS per quart of water in our water tank. I am looking at adding some additional minerals to the water. Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline when it hits the stomach. This immediately reacts with the stomach acid producing CO2, water and table salt. This can screw up digestion, and long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it. The alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium bicarbonate in the blood. Having to produce extra HCl in an empty stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the long term. Another consideration is that baking soda makes water taste pretty bad. So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are considered ideal for alkalizing the body. Potassium citrate, which is often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and calcium, unless they are balanced in the application. Sodium citrate however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in the form of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys. So I am considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well. Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are going as I try it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I'd be interested in getting myself balanced too -- would alkalizing be similar to getting the body's ph normal? And what is MMS? Thx. Lisa -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAlkalizing Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine. I am trying to get her alkalized and chelated. For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of MMS per quart of water in our water tank. I am looking at adding some additional minerals to the water. Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline when it hits the stomach. This immediately reacts with the stomach acid producing CO2, water and table salt. This can screw up digestion, and long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it. The alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium bicarbonate in the blood. Having to produce extra HCl in an empty stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the long term. Another consideration is that baking soda makes water taste pretty bad. So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are considered ideal for alkalizing the body. Potassium citrate, which is often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and calcium, unless they are balanced in the application. Sodium citrate however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in the form of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys. So I am considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well. Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are going as I try it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall: Are you aware of this product from Alpha-Omega Labs? http://www.altcancer.com/diab.htm http://www.altcancer.com/hydrox.htm I was wondering if you have at all evaluated their claims, and, if so, what you think of them. Del - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: CSAlkalizing Well, now that I have gotten my wife off of her high blood pressure medicine, and she says she fells better than she has in over a decade, I am wanting to do the same for her diabetes medicine. I am trying to get her alkalized and chelated. For the alkalizing I am adding 1 drop of MMS per quart of water in our water tank. I am looking at adding some additional minerals to the water. Exploring sodium bicarbonate I am concerned that it is strongly alkaline when it hits the stomach. This immediately reacts with the stomach acid producing CO2, water and table salt. This can screw up digestion, and long term cause the body to produce excess acid to counteract it. The alkalizing is then done in the blood by the body replacing the HCl changing the NaCl in the blood to HCl in the stomach and sodium bicarbonate in the blood. Having to produce extra HCl in an empty stomach concerns me, I think it can lead to digestive problems in the long term. Another consideration is that baking soda makes water taste pretty bad. So upon investigating I found that citrates of the alkali metals are considered ideal for alkalizing the body. Potassium citrate, which is often used, can lead to electrolyte imbalances, as can magnesium and calcium, unless they are balanced in the application. Sodium citrate however is well tolerated by the body, with excessive sodium in the form of salt being quickly and easily eliminated by the kidneys. So I am considering adding sodium citrate to my water as well. Now, it seems that sodium citrate is not readily available locally, but can be ordered from soap making suppliers. However sodium citrate can be easily made by adding one mol of citric acid to 3 mols of bicarbonate of soda ( 100 grams of citric acid to 85.8 grams of sodium bicarbonate ). I have to be very careful to not put more citric acid in then is needed, or it will activate the MMS drops I am adding. Maybe I just need to test the pH and make sure that it is not under 7. Anyway, that is what I am working on, and will keep everyone posted on how thing are going as I try it. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda
Hi Marshal, I believe it works but in a roundabout way to reduce the acidity in the interstitial fluids. I think the path is somewhat like the baking soda neutralises some of the HCl and the body buffering system makes more HCl for the stomach from components in the interstial fluid and thus raising the pH. Eventually the interstial pH will more permanently as waste and acid products are eliminated. Tony Marshall Dudley wrote: I see no way it could. It is NaHCO3. In the body the it is reacted with hydrochloric acid producing NaCl, table salt, plus CO2 which is exhaled, and H2O, water. None of these will affect the body's ph long term.. Marshall Robb Allen wrote: wow.I've read in many many places where it does alkalize your bodybut I've never tried it...I think lemon with water probably works better...Robb - Original Message - *From:* Marshall Dudley mailto:mdud...@execonn.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2003 2:46 PM *Subject:* Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda Baking soda is an organic base, thus it does not affect one's system acidity or alkalinity. Marshall Shirley Reed wrote: Got a question from reading one of the posts here. Anyone know if cs with baking soda will act to alkalize a person's system? Thanks in advance. pj Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/mailsig/*http://tax.yahoo.com - File online, calculators, forms, and more -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I will have to write and ask how that could work. Maybe it is because of the neutralization of the HCl in the stomach. The products are certainly neutral. Marshall C Creel wrote: Alkalizing with baking soda: http://www.drhuldaclark.org/therapy_test_pH.aspLemon works, too, Robb. Personally, I prefer it. Regards,Catherine
Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda
I agree, if it does indeed alkalinize the body, that must be the way it works. I am trying to find out more. Marshall Tony Moody wrote: Hi Marshal, I believe it works but in a roundabout way to reduce the acidity in the interstitial fluids. I think the path is somewhat like the baking soda neutralises some of the HCl and the body buffering system makes more HCl for the stomach from components in the interstial fluid and thus raising the pH. Eventually the interstial pH will more permanently as waste and acid products are eliminated. Tony Marshall Dudley wrote: I see no way it could. It is NaHCO3. In the body the it is reacted with hydrochloric acid producing NaCl, table salt, plus CO2 which is exhaled, and H2O, water. None of these will affect the body's ph long term.. Marshall Robb Allen wrote: wow.I've read in many many places where it does alkalize your bodybut I've never tried it...I think lemon with water probably works better...Robb - Original Message - *From:* Marshall Dudley mailto:mdud...@execonn.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2003 2:46 PM *Subject:* Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda Baking soda is an organic base, thus it does not affect one's system acidity or alkalinity. Marshall Shirley Reed wrote: Got a question from reading one of the posts here. Anyone know if cs with baking soda will act to alkalize a person's system? Thanks in advance. pj Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/mailsig/*http://tax.yahoo.com - File online, calculators, forms, and more -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSalkalizing with baking soda
Got a question from reading one of the posts here. Anyone know if cs with baking soda will act to alkalize a person's system? Thanks in advance. pj - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more
Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda
Baking soda is an organic base, thus it does not affect one's system acidity or alkalinity. Marshall Shirley Reed wrote: Got a question from reading one of the posts here. Anyone know if cs with baking soda will act to alkalize a person's system? Thanks in advance. pj --- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more
Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda
wow.I've read in many many places where it does alkalize your bodybut I've never tried it...I think lemon with water probably works better...Robb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda Baking soda is an organic base, thus it does not affect one's system acidity or alkalinity. Marshall Shirley Reed wrote: Got a question from reading one of the posts here. Anyone know if cs with baking soda will act to alkalize a person's system? Thanks in advance. pj Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more
Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda
I see no way it could. It is NaHCO3. In the body the it is reacted with hydrochloric acid producing NaCl, table salt, plus CO2 which is exhaled, and H2O, water. None of these will affect the body's ph long term.. Marshall Robb Allen wrote: wow.I've read in many many places where it does alkalize your bodybut I've never tried it...I think lemon with water probably works better...Robb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda Baking soda is an organic base, thus it does not affect one's system acidity or alkalinity. Marshall Shirley Reed wrote: Got a question from reading one of the posts here. Anyone know if cs with baking soda will act to alkalize a person's system? Thanks in advance. pj --- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more
Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda
what about lemon juice in water like I said?.do you think it is better?? Robb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:41 PM Subject: Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda I see no way it could. It is NaHCO3. In the body the it is reacted with hydrochloric acid producing NaCl, table salt, plus CO2 which is exhaled, and H2O, water. None of these will affect the body's ph long term.. Marshall Robb Allen wrote: wow.I've read in many many places where it does alkalize your bodybut I've never tried it...I think lemon with water probably works better...Robb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda Baking soda is an organic base, thus it does not affect one's system acidity or alkalinity. Marshall Shirley Reed wrote: Got a question from reading one of the posts here. Anyone know if cs with baking soda will act to alkalize a person's system? Thanks in advance. pj Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more
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Got a question from reading one of the posts here. Anyone know if cs with baking soda will act to alkalize a person's system? Yes, it will. C
Re: CSalkalizing with baking soda
Alkalizing with baking soda: http://www.drhuldaclark.org/therapy_test_pH.asp Lemon works, too, Robb. Personally, I prefer it. Regards, Catherine
CSalkalizing formula
Tony, I think my mail didn't go through. So I want to say thanks for that formula. Thanks.:) pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSalkalizing/Carey Reams/ OT?
Whenever I see banned book it tends to raise my ire and want to know more. Any reason given for this? Did there happen to be a cure that made the establishment feel threatened? Terry TJ Garland wrote: I just read an interesting banned book-Choose Life or Death by Carey Reams. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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He was thrown in jail by the allopaths and eventually had to practice in Mexico. He could tell you your problem by reading the 5 sets of #'s and then would tell you what to eat to be cured. Amazon has a used copy for $75. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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TJ, What is the purpose pf alkalizing? Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I just read an interesting banned book-Choose Life or Death by Carey Reams. His biological theory of ionization is intriguing. My uncle studied under him in the mid 70's. He always advocated the juice of a fresh lemon daily. Reams had an amazing cure rate for almost all diseases(especially cancer) by balancing the body chemistry. Has anyone had any experience with is procedures? Thanks. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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At this site, the whole lemon/olive oil drink is the center piece of all the therapies. http://www.keephope.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSalkalizing
I am wanting to alkalize for general health. Also am using Cansema for some skin cancers that I greatly suspect have spread and have heard that alkalizing is necessary for success. Thanks for those tips about lemon juice, chlorophyll, barley green, etc. pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSalkalizing
I have heard of people using h2o2 mixed with aloe vera in cancer treatment with good success. If you want to become more alkaline you could purchase a machine which produces alkaline water for you from tap water. The water is allot nicer to drink and more refreshing as it penetrates the cells quicker. You can buy a cheap type of device that will do this for $250 australian from www.nutech2000.com Hope this helps Take care damian At 10:23 AM 22/11/01 -0800, you wrote: I am wanting to alkalize for general health. Also am using Cansema for some skin cancers that I greatly suspect have spread and have heard that alkalizing is necessary for success. Thanks for those tips about lemon juice, chlorophyll, barley green, etc. pj -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
