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It is supposed to be a good preventative as I have read that most people with breast cancer are low in iodine. I am not sure if it can treat it, but you could go online onto the iodine site and check this out. dee On 29 Mar 2010, at 05:03, Leslie wrote: Is Iodine good for breast cancer? My daughter has a lump in her breast and also is overweight so could be the thyroid. I have the iodine but was afraid to take it internally and just swab it on. Leslie - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The thyroid is in the neck, not the breast. Anyway, serrapeptase has been shown to be effective in removing non-cancerous lumps in the breast. Marshall Leslie wrote: Is Iodine good for breast cancer? My daughter has a lump in her breast and also is overweight so could be the thyroid. I have the iodine but was afraid to take it internally and just swab it on. Leslie - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Gina, the liver needs vit A for a lot of things including other hormones, and the reuptake of estrogen to deactivate excess and remove it through bile and urine. Better do some more reading on Selenium and why we take it with Iodine, I think breastcancerchoices.com has a list and the reason for each, or maybe it was the Iodine Gruop. I've read so much over the last year I don't remember where all my sources are. I have no problem at all with my thyroid hormones and I take 200 - 600 mg per day. If there were a problem it would have shown up by now. It also depends on the form of Selenium you use. You can find people to say bad things about anything. I read and researched the pros and cons, everything I could get my hands on really, before I ever started taking the Iodine. Someone just posted recently on another group that high Vit C intake is bad for you. So you see, you can find bad info anywhere. The best thing to do is dig for yourself and then you'll know. I'm satisfied that what I'm doing is good for me. I've done my research and I do my best to keep up with the latest studies and news about all this stuff. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Marshall Dudley wrote: The thyroid is in the neck, not the breast. Anyway, serrapeptase has been shown to be effective in removing non-cancerous lumps in the breast. So is progesterone. Since I started progesterone I no longer have painful knots in breasts. I didn't start using P for that reason, but it has been a very pleasant side effect. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have also heard this was a very good thing for your health. Keep me informed, ok? I am not ready now but hopefully in a couple of months can get this going. Had a friend who got a good deal by ordering a bunch like 10 pounds?? that's a lot. Leslie - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 5:28 AM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Christina Mattson tinamatt...@yahoo.com wrote: I think i am going to start growing my own wheatgrass for juicing, it is supposed to be a good form of chlorophil. I'll let everyone know how i decide to go about this. Meanwhile here's a pretty helpful link i found. http://nutritionholistic.com/2009/03/how-to-grow-wheatgrass-at-home/ Hi I've been growing and juicing wheatgrass for months - it's really easy to do. I don't like the taste of the juice on it's own but throw it in with some apple or other fruit/veg combo and it's fine. The CHI (Wigmore) also recommend putting a bunch of wheatgrass in your bath to absorb the chlorine if you don't have a whole house filter. cheers Kirsteen
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Is Iodine good for breast cancer? My daughter has a lump in her breast and also is overweight so could be the thyroid. I have the iodine but was afraid to take it internally and just swab it on. Leslie - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Gina, the liver needs vit A for a lot of things including other hormones, and the reuptake of estrogen to deactivate excess and remove it through bile and urine. Better do some more reading on Selenium and why we take it with Iodine, I think breastcancerchoices.com has a list and the reason for each, or maybe it was the Iodine Gruop. I've read so much over the last year I don't remember where all my sources are. I have no problem at all with my thyroid hormones and I take 200 - 600 mg per day. If there were a problem it would have shown up by now. It also depends on the form of Selenium you use. You can find people to say bad things about anything. I read and researched the pros and cons, everything I could get my hands on really, before I ever started taking the Iodine. Someone just posted recently on another group that high Vit C intake is bad for you. So you see, you can find bad info anywhere. The best thing to do is dig for yourself and then you'll know. I'm satisfied that what I'm doing is good for me. I've done my research and I do my best to keep up with the latest studies and news about all this stuff. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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You can read about it here:) http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineindex.html Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Leslie wrote: Is Iodine good for breast cancer? My daughter has a lump in her breast and also is overweight so could be the thyroid. I have the iodine but was afraid to take it internally and just swab it on. Leslie - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Gina, the liver needs vit A for a lot of things including other hormones, and the reuptake of estrogen to deactivate excess and remove it through bile and urine. Better do some more reading on Selenium and why we take it with Iodine, I think breastcancerchoices.com has a list and the reason for each, or maybe it was the Iodine Gruop. I've read so much over the last year I don't remember where all my sources are. I have no problem at all with my thyroid hormones and I take 200 - 600 mg per day. If there were a problem it would have shown up by now. It also depends on the form of Selenium you use. You can find people to say bad things about anything. I read and researched the pros and cons, everything I could get my hands on really, before I ever started taking the Iodine. Someone just posted recently on another group that high Vit C intake is bad for you. So you see, you can find bad info anywhere. The best thing to do is dig for yourself and then you'll know. I'm satisfied that what I'm doing is good for me. I've done my research and I do my best to keep up with the latest studies and news about all this stuff. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Christina Mattson tinamatt...@yahoo.comwrote: I think i am going to start growing my own wheatgrass for juicing, it is supposed to be a good form of chlorophil. I'll let everyone know how i decide to go about this. Meanwhile here's a pretty helpful link i found. http://nutritionholistic.com/2009/03/how-to-grow-wheatgrass-at-home/ Hi I've been growing and juicing wheatgrass for months - it's really easy to do. I don't like the taste of the juice on it's own but throw it in with some apple or other fruit/veg combo and it's fine. The CHI (Wigmore) also recommend putting a bunch of wheatgrass in your bath to absorb the chlorine if you don't have a whole house filter. cheers Kirsteen
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Yes but she didn't give you any *proof* did she? I mean it is easy to say things like that and I know that nurses, doctors and vets, chemists, etc., are really opposed to alternative things without any proof at all. This includes silver which I *know* works. Did she also tell you all the bad side effects that mainstream medicine has too? I bet not. I take chlorella and have never noticed this happening--and I'm sure I would. Maybe if a person has other issues it could be a problem because as I say, we are all so different and the supplements I take, may be not right for someone else--or--they may need different dosage. I still think it is better to take things in whole food form though, and not concentrated reduced forms. This is not true for certain conditions though, so each case should be judged on its own merit, but as a rule of thumb I think its true. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 20:01, needling around wrote: Hi Dee, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but chlorella isn't necessarily all it is touted either. Years ago I knew a woman who was an RN, LAc and colon hydrotherapist. We got into a conversation one day and she told me that for some people chlorella clumps together in the colon and can take more than 6 months to be discharged. She said she saw it all the time. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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But would it be better to leave the mercury where it is in the first place? I don't know. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 20:53, Alan Jones wrote: Also, Andy Cutler, author of Amalgam Illness, claims that chlorella can do more harm than good in mercury toxic people. It can help remove mercury from where it's at, but it doesn't eliminate it from the body, it can just get deposited elsewhere in the body. Alan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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urine alchemy therapee On 25 Mar 2010 at 17:57, needling around wrote about : Subject : Re: CShypothyroid If you want to remove mercury from the body you might want to visit with a Bowen practitioner. I have witnessed a copper penny turning silver after being dropped into the patient's urine after a treatment. Before treatment, same cup, the penny stayed copper. PT - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Also, Andy Cutler, author of Amalgam Illness, claims that chlorella can do more harm than good in mercury toxic people. It can help remove mercury from where it's at, but it doesn't eliminate it from the body, it can just get deposited elsewhere in the body. Alan On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:01 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Dee, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but chlorella isn't necessarily all it is touted either. Years ago I knew a woman who was an RN, LAc and colon hydrotherapist. We got into a conversation one day and she told me that for some people chlorella clumps together in the colon and can take more than 6 months to be discharged. She said she saw it all the time. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid All this just reinforces my conviction that supplementing things like minerals is a very dodgy thing! One just doesn't *know* what mineral is deficient (accurately) and whether supplementing wouldn't imbalance things which causes much worse problems. And all things are synergistic with others and doctors 'normal' levels etc., are no good, because we are all so different in our needs. I think its better to take them in whole food form like kelp or chlorella. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:25, sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- T -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Do you need a special juicer for wheatgrass? I don't mind the taste but if I drink it straight it gives me a stomachache. PT - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Christina Mattson tinamatt...@yahoo.com wrote: I think i am going to start growing my own wheatgrass for juicing, it is supposed to be a good form of chlorophil. I'll let everyone know how i decide to go about this. Meanwhile here's a pretty helpful link i found. http://nutritionholistic.com/2009/03/how-to-grow-wheatgrass-at-home/ Hi I've been growing and juicing wheatgrass for months - it's really easy to do. I don't like the taste of the juice on it's own but throw it in with some apple or other fruit/veg combo and it's fine. The CHI (Wigmore) also recommend putting a bunch of wheatgrass in your bath to absorb the chlorine if you don't have a whole house filter. cheers Kirsteen
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On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:12 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote: Do you need a special juicer for wheatgrass? I don't mind the taste but if I drink it straight it gives me a stomachache. . You need a macerating juicer not a centrifugal one. I have a Matstone. It's the same as either the Champion or the Oscar (I can't remember which) It was the cheapest electric one I could find, about £160. It's been great. You can also get hand wheatgrass juicers for under £30. They say that when you take it you're supposed to keep each mouthful in your mouth and roll it around as if you were 'chewing' it at least 30 times. I do 'chew' it but not as long as that. Apparently that encourages the saliva flow and makes it easier to digest. In fact they recommend you do that with all juices. It might help stop the stomach pains. Cheers Kirsteen
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Yes, but they don't have to be expensive... http://tinyurl.com/ycghd4s . Chuck No matter how much money you give a homeless person for a cup of tea, you never get that tea. On 3/26/2010 9:12:08 AM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: Do you need a special juicer for wheatgrass? I don't mind the taste but if I drink it straight it gives me a stomachache. PT - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright [link: mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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That kind of looks like my Grandmother's old meat grinder. I wonder if that would work... not as long in the snout. PT - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:58 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes, but they don't have to be expensive... http://tinyurl.com/ycghd4s . Chuck No matter how much money you give a homeless person for a cup of tea, you never get that tea. On 3/26/2010 9:12:08 AM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: Do you need a special juicer for wheatgrass? I don't mind the taste but if I drink it straight it gives me a stomachache. PT - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright [link: mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I use an electric meat grinder and then use a manual press to get all the juice. But it is a setup meant for larger quantities. Sort of a poor man's version of this: http://www.nwjcal.com/features.htm - Steve N -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid That kind of looks like my Grandmother's old meat grinder. I wonder if that would work... not as long in the snout. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Annie, Great post! BTW, what water filter pitcher are you using that removes 80 to 90 % of flouride? thanks, Peter - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid If you don't take enough selenium with the Iodine it WILL cause you grief and CAN damage the thyroid. I've upped my dose to 50 mg per day of 2% Lugol's, I started with 5 mg and worked my way up slowly, and I take 400 - 600 mg of the selenomethionine form of Selenium daily. When I don't take the Iodine I feel like crap. My thyroid felt swollen on one side and I had a small nodule on my thyroid which is slowly shrinking. The doc did not do a thyroid antibody test but he did say I had elevated antibodies according to my lab results. When I first started taking the Iodine my thyroid swelled some, but it is now a normal size. I feel physically much better. Detox/herx symptoms can be a bear but if you take extra magnesium, vit C, selenium, zinc and copper, and manganese, and use sea salt and plenty of water this can be reduced greatly. That and backing off on the dose until you feel a bit better. If you have a lot of toxins to detox the detox pathways can be overcome and this causes the detox/herx symptoms, or a viral load die off, or candida/fungus die off. The minerals the shepherd the halides, mercury and other stuff out are the ones I've listed above. You don't have a chance to get too much of them because the get used up binding to toxins and carrying them out, usually through the urine. And the body needs some of them for regular maintenance and enzyme production. I also added milk thistle, and dandelion to my regime to support the liver, and R ALA to boost glutathione. It also helped that I found a pitcher that filters everything including 80 - 90 % of fluoride from my tap water. And cutting out MSG, aspartame, and breads made from brominated flours, as well as all soft drinks, and upping my pure water intake to nearly 90 0z per day. I also added vit D3, and sea salt to my regime quite a while back and cut out almost all the processed salt. Those with autoimmune hypothyroid issues MUST take the selenium, it's NOT an option, or it WILL cause problems, especially with antibodies. I get so tired of people not doing it the recommended way and then saying it's harmful. Or expecting it to work over night. Stephanie's(The Iodine list Mom) husband took at least a year to bring his Hashi's antibodies down to nothing. So it's a long term thing, and sometimes in the interim the thyroid usually WILL swell to grab more Iodine, when it has enough it will start to reduce in size. My thyroid kind of went up and down in size for two months or so before it settled down. But man oh man the detoxing I was doing during that time. I won't say that my thyroid swelling up even more, like that didn't scare me to death, it did, but I was also told that it would go back down again, and it did. But I guess everyone gets to health in their own way, there are many choices out there and a lot of research. I researched Iodine, the recommendations of nutrients to take with it and why, and the even the reports against it, thoroughly for several months before I made the decision to buy the Iodine and give it go. I haven't been sorry yet. Well except for an initial bad detox/herx reaction, LOL. I haven't lowered my thyroid med dose yet, I still have to get blood work done to see what my TSH, T4, T3 levels are doing. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Alan Jones wrote: How high was your dosage, and for how long did you take it? Alan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com mailto:craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Having been hypothryoid and having done this, I would *highly* that folks with that condition look into the high iodine dosing. I am no longer hypothyroid and it cleared up a lot of other issues for me. Another case of varying mileage. Craig needling around wrote: Being hypothyroid and having done this, I would not recommend it to anyone. It can also lead to thyroid nodules and autoimmune thyroid issues. PT - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed simple by ingesting sufficient iodine. The Yahoo Group named iodine can get you up to speed on iodine in very short order. pj -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ
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Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). Iodine is the base of thyroid hormones, most of which made is T4. So, if your body is making mostly T4 and you have some sort of conversion problem, then Selenium will only make it worse. That is my understanding anyway. If I can find my source on that I will post it! Gina -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks, Gina. PT - Original Message - From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: RE: CShypothyroid Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). Iodine is the base of thyroid hormones, most of which made is T4. So, if your body is making mostly T4 and you have some sort of conversion problem, then Selenium will only make it worse. That is my understanding anyway. If I can find my source on that I will post it! Gina -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks. I'll check it out. PT - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid--LUGOL' S - IODINE 5% works well !
Lugol's % Iodine is what Dr. Clark recommended when I worked for her 8 years ago. She passed away, but they still sell her products. I always have them in my store too. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 4:50:20 PM Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed simple by ingesting sufficient iodine. The Yahoo Group named iodine can get you up to speed on iodine in very short order. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Gina My understanding of the role of Selenium is just the opposite. Selenium is the major co-factor for the enzyme 5' diodinase which is responsible for the convesrsion of T4 into T3. Studies prove lower conversion rates in individuals with low selenium. Other studies reveal that increasing selenium is beneficial to the conversion and furthermore it reduces the formation of rT3. Oliveri O, Gerelli et al. Selenium Zinc and thyroid hormones in healthy subjects low ratio of t3/t4 in older subjects Biol Trace Elem Res 1996;51 31-41 Kralik A, Eder K, et al. Influence of Selenium and Zinc deficiency on parameters related to thyroid metabolism Horm Metab Res 1996;28:223-226 and several others upon request I always give selenium and zinc to those with low conversion and my experience has been positive. I also give supplemental Iodine with great care. Excess iodine restricts the function of the thyroid. Frank -- From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShypothyroid Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). Iodine is the base of thyroid hormones, most of which made is T4. So, if your body is making mostly T4 and you have some sort of conversion problem, then Selenium will only make it worse. That is my understanding anyway. If I can find my source on that I will post it! Gina -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Louise Larabie wrote: Problem is that lack of iodine is not the only reason there would be symptoms of low thyroid. I agree with that. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Louise Larabie wrote: IF you have conversion problem it might actually be low iron or low adrenals that is causing the body not to assimilate the thyroid hormones properly (my problem is not assimilating properly, though I have high iron as well, Louise, Excess iron causes as many thyroid problems as too little. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Gina, the liver needs vit A for a lot of things including other hormones, and the reuptake of estrogen to deactivate excess and remove it through bile and urine. Better do some more reading on Selenium and why we take it with Iodine, I think breastcancerchoices.com has a list and the reason for each, or maybe it was the Iodine Gruop. I've read so much over the last year I don't remember where all my sources are. I have no problem at all with my thyroid hormones and I take 200 - 600 mg per day. If there were a problem it would have shown up by now. It also depends on the form of Selenium you use. You can find people to say bad things about anything. I read and researched the pros and cons, everything I could get my hands on really, before I ever started taking the Iodine. Someone just posted recently on another group that high Vit C intake is bad for you. So you see, you can find bad info anywhere. The best thing to do is dig for yourself and then you'll know. I'm satisfied that what I'm doing is good for me. I've done my research and I do my best to keep up with the latest studies and news about all this stuff. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
My daughter almost died and I have been nursing her back to health for years with no extra money so has been hard. She does not have medicaid and is trying to work one day a week to regain her mobility or strength. So, that is the reason I am always asking questions and for places to obtain products reasonably. then, make that list and check it twice and hope to order one thing. S, here is my question. She has the blue moons and so I know she is not properly dispersing the CS and think selenium plays a big role. She is also fat and has not been able to lose weight. Now, what is the T3 and T4 and how do we find out what is needed?? Please be patient with me and help me if you can. By the way, I am s proud of my new distiller my friend purchased for me. Just got it. I felt that was very important in making good CS as lots of times the water would turn cloudy from using Purified Distilled water from the store. I buy the reverse osmosis water from a place that does this in town. We live in a small town. Thanks so much, Leslie - Original Message - From: Frank frankcuns-r...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:28 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Hi Gina My understanding of the role of Selenium is just the opposite. Selenium is the major co-factor for the enzyme 5' diodinase which is responsible for the convesrsion of T4 into T3. Studies prove lower conversion rates in individuals with low selenium. Other studies reveal that increasing selenium is beneficial to the conversion and furthermore it reduces the formation of rT3. Oliveri O, Gerelli et al. Selenium Zinc and thyroid hormones in healthy subjects low ratio of t3/t4 in older subjects Biol Trace Elem Res 1996;51 31-41 Kralik A, Eder K, et al. Influence of Selenium and Zinc deficiency on parameters related to thyroid metabolism Horm Metab Res 1996;28:223-226 and several others upon request I always give selenium and zinc to those with low conversion and my experience has been positive. I also give supplemental Iodine with great care. Excess iodine restricts the function of the thyroid. Frank -- From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShypothyroid Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). Iodine is the base of thyroid hormones, most of which made is T4. So, if your body is making mostly T4 and you have some sort of conversion problem, then Selenium will only make it worse. That is my understanding anyway. If I can find my source on that I will post it! Gina -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShypothyroid
All this just reinforces my conviction that supplementing things like minerals is a very dodgy thing! One just doesn't *know* what mineral is deficient (accurately) and whether supplementing wouldn't imbalance things which causes much worse problems. And all things are synergistic with others and doctors 'normal' levels etc., are no good, because we are all so different in our needs. I think its better to take them in whole food form like kelp or chlorella. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:25, sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- T -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The trouble is, Annie, that what works wonderfully for *you* could be disastrous for someone else! We are all so different and have different needs, but I'm glad it has worked for you. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 17:17, Annie B Smythe wrote: Gina, the liver needs vit A for a lot of things including other hormones, and the reuptake of estrogen to deactivate excess and remove it through bile and urine. Better do some more reading on Selenium and why we take it with Iodine, I think breastcancerchoices.com has a list and the reason for each, or maybe it was the Iodine Gruop. I've read so much over the last year I don't remember where all my sources are. I have no problem at all with my thyroid hormones and I take 200 - 600 mg per day. If there were a problem it would have shown up by now. It also depends on the form of Selenium you use. You can find people to say bad things about anything. I read and researched the pros and cons, everything I could get my hands on really, before I ever started taking the Iodine. Someone just posted recently on another group that high Vit C intake is bad for you. So you see, you can find bad info anywhere. The best thing to do is dig for yourself and then you'll know. I'm satisfied that what I'm doing is good for me. I've done my research and I do my best to keep up with the latest studies and news about all this stuff. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dee, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but chlorella isn't necessarily all it is touted either. Years ago I knew a woman who was an RN, LAc and colon hydrotherapist. We got into a conversation one day and she told me that for some people chlorella clumps together in the colon and can take more than 6 months to be discharged. She said she saw it all the time. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid All this just reinforces my conviction that supplementing things like minerals is a very dodgy thing! One just doesn't *know* what mineral is deficient (accurately) and whether supplementing wouldn't imbalance things which causes much worse problems. And all things are synergistic with others and doctors 'normal' levels etc., are no good, because we are all so different in our needs. I think its better to take them in whole food form like kelp or chlorella. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:25, sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- T -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I think i am going to start growing my own wheatgrass for juicing, it is supposed to be a good form of chlorophil. I'll let everyone know how i decide to go about this. Meanwhile here's a pretty helpful link i found. http://nutritionholistic.com/2009/03/how-to-grow-wheatgrass-at-home/ Tina --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Subject: Re: CShypothyroid To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:52 AM All this just reinforces my conviction that supplementing things like minerals is a very dodgy thing! One just doesn't *know* what mineral is deficient (accurately) and whether supplementing wouldn't imbalance things which causes much worse problems. And all things are synergistic with others and doctors 'normal' levels etc., are no good, because we are all so different in our needs. I think its better to take them in whole food form like kelp or chlorella. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:25, sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- T -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Also, Andy Cutler, author of Amalgam Illness, claims that chlorella can do more harm than good in mercury toxic people. It can help remove mercury from where it's at, but it doesn't eliminate it from the body, it can just get deposited elsewhere in the body. Alan On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:01 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote: Hi Dee, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but chlorella isn't necessarily all it is touted either. Years ago I knew a woman who was an RN, LAc and colon hydrotherapist. We got into a conversation one day and she told me that for some people chlorella clumps together in the colon and can take more than 6 months to be discharged. She said she saw it all the time. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid All this just reinforces my conviction that supplementing things like minerals is a very dodgy thing! One just doesn't *know* what mineral is deficient (accurately) and whether supplementing wouldn't imbalance things which causes much worse problems. And all things are synergistic with others and doctors 'normal' levels etc., are no good, because we are all so different in our needs. I think its better to take them in whole food form like kelp or chlorella. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:25, sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- T -- Alan Jones
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If you want to remove mercury from the body you might want to visit with a Bowen practitioner. I have witnessed a copper penny turning silver after being dropped into the patient's urine after a treatment. Before treatment, same cup, the penny stayed copper. PT - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Also, Andy Cutler, author of Amalgam Illness, claims that chlorella can do more harm than good in mercury toxic people. It can help remove mercury from where it's at, but it doesn't eliminate it from the body, it can just get deposited elsewhere in the body. Alan On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:01 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Dee, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but chlorella isn't necessarily all it is touted either. Years ago I knew a woman who was an RN, LAc and colon hydrotherapist. We got into a conversation one day and she told me that for some people chlorella clumps together in the colon and can take more than 6 months to be discharged. She said she saw it all the time. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid All this just reinforces my conviction that supplementing things like minerals is a very dodgy thing! One just doesn't *know* what mineral is deficient (accurately) and whether supplementing wouldn't imbalance things which causes much worse problems. And all things are synergistic with others and doctors 'normal' levels etc., are no good, because we are all so different in our needs. I think its better to take them in whole food form like kelp or chlorella. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:25, sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- T -- Alan Jones
Re: CShypothyroid
Hi Leslie, You should be proud of yourself. Pulling the whole thing without any public help ! The thyroid is a small gland situated in the anterior center of the neck. It produces several hormones but the two major ones affecting the metabolism are thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3 ). The amounts produced are based on a signal from the brain which sends a master hormone known as TSH. The thyroid produces mostly T4 (inactive form) and a little bit of T3 (active form). The hormones circulate in the blood stream and as needed the liver (mostly) converts the T4 form into the T3 and other lesser forms. The T3 moves into the cells where it cooperates to stimulate the metabolism to produce energy. To learn the levels of T3/T4 you need a medical laboratory ands someone who understands this complicated mechanism (many MD do not!) and can make sense of it. But there is a simple test that will show you whether your metabolic rate is slow (which means low levels of TSH, T4 or poor comversion). It is called the Coca test discovered by Dr Coca at a time when MDs used to observe and think. Take a thermometer (glass best) and place it next to your bedside so that you do not have to move much in the AM upon weakening to reach it. Shake it down the night before. As you wake up and very slowly take the thermometer and place it under you arm. After ten minutes take the temperature and go about your day. Repeat the routine for seven consecutive days. Average the temperatures. The optimal range is 97.8F to 98.2F I below suspect low thryroid function. Mexican pharmacies (internt very inexpensive) ship a natural thryroid extract (is made in USA!) that contains a fairly well standarized amount of hormone and could be your best bet if the basal temperature is really low. If the temperature is low but close then use Lugol (start with just a few drops a day in water (no juices or sodas) preferebly in an empty stomach. Increase litle by little and retest you basal temperature ever month and plot to see the trend. Vitamins A and D, selenium and zinc the amino-acid tyrosine and iodine are the ingredients and cofactors that make the hormones. You may want to supplement as well. Good luck Frank -- From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid My daughter almost died and I have been nursing her back to health for years with no extra money so has been hard. She does not have medicaid and is trying to work one day a week to regain her mobility or strength. So, that is the reason I am always asking questions and for places to obtain products reasonably. then, make that list and check it twice and hope to order one thing. S, here is my question. She has the blue moons and so I know she is not properly dispersing the CS and think selenium plays a big role. She is also fat and has not been able to lose weight. Now, what is the T3 and T4 and how do we find out what is needed?? Please be patient with me and help me if you can. By the way, I am s proud of my new distiller my friend purchased for me. Just got it. I felt that was very important in making good CS as lots of times the water would turn cloudy from using Purified Distilled water from the store. I buy the reverse osmosis water from a place that does this in town. We live in a small town. Thanks so much, Leslie - Original Message - From: Frank frankcuns-r...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:28 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Hi Gina My understanding of the role of Selenium is just the opposite. Selenium is the major co-factor for the enzyme 5' diodinase which is responsible for the convesrsion of T4 into T3. Studies prove lower conversion rates in individuals with low selenium. Other studies reveal that increasing selenium is beneficial to the conversion and furthermore it reduces the formation of rT3. Oliveri O, Gerelli et al. Selenium Zinc and thyroid hormones in healthy subjects low ratio of t3/t4 in older subjects Biol Trace Elem Res 1996;51 31-41 Kralik A, Eder K, et al. Influence of Selenium and Zinc deficiency on parameters related to thyroid metabolism Horm Metab Res 1996;28:223-226 and several others upon request I always give selenium and zinc to those with low conversion and my experience has been positive. I also give supplemental Iodine with great care. Excess iodine restricts the function of the thyroid. Frank -- From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShypothyroid Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). Iodine is the base of thyroid hormones, most of which made is T4. So, if your body is making mostly T4 and you have some sort of conversion
RE: CShypothyroid
Your snipped quote: [She has the blue moons and so I know she is not properly dispersing the CS] -Praps you could help me out with this bit here? Could you elaborate by explaining how you came to the decision that EIS/CS caused this? N. From: leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:56:21 -0500 My daughter almost died and I have been nursing her back to health for years with no extra money so has been hard. She does not have medicaid and is trying to work one day a week to regain her mobility or strength. So, that is the reason I am always asking questions and for places to obtain products reasonably. then, make that list and check it twice and hope to order one thing. S, here is my question. She has the blue moons and so I know she is not properly dispersing the CS and think selenium plays a big role. She is also fat and has not been able to lose weight. Now, what is the T3 and T4 and how do we find out what is needed?? Please be patient with me and help me if you can. By the way, I am s proud of my new distiller my friend purchased for me. Just got it. I felt that was very important in making good CS as lots of times the water would turn cloudy from using Purified Distilled water from the store. I buy the reverse osmosis water from a place that does this in town. We live in a small town. Thanks so much, Leslie - Original Message - From: Frank frankcuns-r...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:28 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Hi Gina My understanding of the role of Selenium is just the opposite. Selenium is the major co-factor for the enzyme 5' diodinase which is responsible for the convesrsion of T4 into T3. Studies prove lower conversion rates in individuals with low selenium. Other studies reveal that increasing selenium is beneficial to the conversion and furthermore it reduces the formation of rT3. Oliveri O, Gerelli et al. Selenium Zinc and thyroid hormones in healthy subjects low ratio of t3/t4 in older subjects Biol Trace Elem Res 1996;51 31-41 Kralik A, Eder K, et al. Influence of Selenium and Zinc deficiency on parameters related to thyroid metabolism Horm Metab Res 1996;28:223-226 and several others upon request I always give selenium and zinc to those with low conversion and my experience has been positive. I also give supplemental Iodine with great care. Excess iodine restricts the function of the thyroid. Frank -- From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShypothyroid Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). Iodine is the base of thyroid hormones, most of which made is T4. So, if your body is making mostly T4 and you have some sort of conversion problem, then Selenium will only make it worse. That is my understanding anyway. If I can find my source on that I will post it! Gina -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
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Could you explain this a bit more? I have no idea what you mean as far as the penny goes (except for the fact that it's obviously better after treatment). Lisa _ From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid If you want to remove mercury from the body you might want to visit with a Bowen practitioner. I have witnessed a copper penny turning silver after being dropped into the patient's urine after a treatment. Before treatment, same cup, the penny stayed copper. PT - Original Message - From: Alan Jones mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Also, Andy Cutler, author of Amalgam Illness, claims that chlorella can do more harm than good in mercury toxic people. It can help remove mercury from where it's at, but it doesn't eliminate it from the body, it can just get deposited elsewhere in the body. Alan On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:01 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Dee, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but chlorella isn't necessarily all it is touted either. Years ago I knew a woman who was an RN, LAc and colon hydrotherapist. We got into a conversation one day and she told me that for some people chlorella clumps together in the colon and can take more than 6 months to be discharged. She said she saw it all the time. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid All this just reinforces my conviction that supplementing things like minerals is a very dodgy thing! One just doesn't *know* what mineral is deficient (accurately) and whether supplementing wouldn't imbalance things which causes much worse problems. And all things are synergistic with others and doctors 'normal' levels etc., are no good, because we are all so different in our needs. I think its better to take them in whole food form like kelp or chlorella. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:25, sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- T -- Alan Jones
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Yes. I have kept up with all the testimonies concerning blue moons. We both take CS but she was taking much more at a time than me; thinking more was better. She had lots of mercury also (I did too) so thought this might play a part in not being able to disperse the CS properly. If you have any other reasoning, I would love to hear it. Leslie - Original Message - From: Neville Munn To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:33 PM Subject: RE: CShypothyroid Your snipped quote: [She has the blue moons and so I know she is not properly dispersing the CS] -Praps you could help me out with this bit here? Could you elaborate by explaining how you came to the decision that EIS/CS caused this? N. From: leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:56:21 -0500 My daughter almost died and I have been nursing her back to health for years with no extra money so has been hard. She does not have medicaid and is trying to work one day a week to regain her mobility or strength. So, that is the reason I am always asking questions and for places to obtain products reasonably. then, make that list and check it twice and hope to order one thing. S, here is my question. She has the blue moons and so I know she is not properly dispersing the CS and think selenium plays a big role. She is also fat and has not been able to lose weight. Now, what is the T3 and T4 and how do we find out what is needed?? Please be patient with me and help me if you can. By the way, I am s proud of my new distiller my friend purchased for me. Just got it. I felt that was very important in making good CS as lots of times the water would turn cloudy from using Purified Distilled water from the store. I buy the reverse osmosis water from a place that does this in town. We live in a small town. Thanks so much, Leslie - Original Message - From: Frank frankcuns-r...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:28 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Hi Gina My understanding of the role of Selenium is just the opposite. Selenium is the major co-factor for the enzyme 5' diodinase which is responsible for the convesrsion of T4 into T3. Studies prove lower conversion rates in individuals with low selenium. Other studies reveal that increasing selenium is beneficial to the conversion and furthermore it reduces the formation of rT3. Oliveri O, Gerelli et al. Selenium Zinc and thyroid hormones in healthy subjects low ratio of t3/t4 in older subjects Biol Trace Elem Res 1996;51 31-41 Kralik A, Eder K, et al. Influence of Selenium and Zinc deficiency on parameters related to thyroid metabolism Horm Metab Res 1996;28:223-226 and several others upon request I always give selenium and zinc to those with low conversion and my experience has been positive. I also give supplemental Iodine with great care. Excess iodine restricts the function of the thyroid. Frank -- From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CShypothyroid Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). Iodine is the base of thyroid hormones, most of which made is T4. So, if your body is making mostly T4 and you have some sort of conversion problem, then Selenium will only make it worse. That is my understanding anyway. If I can find my source on that I will post it! Gina -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org
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Hi Lesie, You can also get Standard Process, Adrenal, Desicated, via Amazon for about $12.00 per 90 tablets. FWIW, Craig Frank wrote: Hi Leslie, You should be proud of yourself. Pulling the whole thing without any public help ! The thyroid is a small gland situated in the anterior center of the neck. It produces several hormones but the two major ones affecting the metabolism are thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3 ). The amounts produced are based on a signal from the brain which sends a master hormone known as TSH. The thyroid produces mostly T4 (inactive form) and a little bit of T3 (active form). The hormones circulate in the blood stream and as needed the liver (mostly) converts the T4 form into the T3 and other lesser forms. The T3 moves into the cells where it cooperates to stimulate the metabolism to produce energy. To learn the levels of T3/T4 you need a medical laboratory ands someone who understands this complicated mechanism (many MD do not!) and can make sense of it. But there is a simple test that will show you whether your metabolic rate is slow (which means low levels of TSH, T4 or poor comversion). It is called the Coca test discovered by Dr Coca at a time when MDs used to observe and think. Take a thermometer (glass best) and place it next to your bedside so that you do not have to move much in the AM upon weakening to reach it. Shake it down the night before. As you wake up and very slowly take the thermometer and place it under you arm. After ten minutes take the temperature and go about your day. Repeat the routine for seven consecutive days. Average the temperatures. The optimal range is 97.8F to 98.2F I below suspect low thryroid function. Mexican pharmacies (internt very inexpensive) ship a natural thryroid extract (is made in USA!) that contains a fairly well standarized amount of hormone and could be your best bet if the basal temperature is really low. If the temperature is low but close then use Lugol (start with just a few drops a day in water (no juices or sodas) preferebly in an empty stomach. Increase litle by little and retest you basal temperature ever month and plot to see the trend. Vitamins A and D, selenium and zinc the amino-acid tyrosine and iodine are the ingredients and cofactors that make the hormones. You may want to supplement as well. Good luck Frank -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Leslie, No, I'm afraid I don't have any other reasoning for it, although there may be a multitude of reasons which only the individual concerned could work out or determine. I just wanted to know how you determined EIS caused it that's all. N. From: leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:45:52 -0500 Yes. I have kept up with all the testimonies concerning blue moons. We both take CS but she was taking much more at a time than me; thinking more was better. She had lots of mercury also (I did too) so thought this might play a part in not being able to disperse the CS properly. If you have any other reasoning, I would love to hear it. Leslie _ Looking for a new home? With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
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I'm not a chemist, but I was told that the copper attracted the mercury in the urine after the treatment. Has to do with molecules or ions or something like that. PT - Original Message - From: Lisa To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:42 PM Subject: RE: CShypothyroid Could you explain this a bit more? I have no idea what you mean as far as the penny goes (except for the fact that it's obviously better after treatment). Lisa -- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid If you want to remove mercury from the body you might want to visit with a Bowen practitioner. I have witnessed a copper penny turning silver after being dropped into the patient's urine after a treatment. Before treatment, same cup, the penny stayed copper. PT - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Also, Andy Cutler, author of Amalgam Illness, claims that chlorella can do more harm than good in mercury toxic people. It can help remove mercury from where it's at, but it doesn't eliminate it from the body, it can just get deposited elsewhere in the body. Alan On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:01 PM, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Dee, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but chlorella isn't necessarily all it is touted either. Years ago I knew a woman who was an RN, LAc and colon hydrotherapist. We got into a conversation one day and she told me that for some people chlorella clumps together in the colon and can take more than 6 months to be discharged. She said she saw it all the time. PT - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid All this just reinforces my conviction that supplementing things like minerals is a very dodgy thing! One just doesn't *know* what mineral is deficient (accurately) and whether supplementing wouldn't imbalance things which causes much worse problems. And all things are synergistic with others and doctors 'normal' levels etc., are no good, because we are all so different in our needs. I think its better to take them in whole food form like kelp or chlorella. dee On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:25, sol wrote: Gina Moore wrote: Selenium can inhibit the conversion of T4 (storage hormone) to T3 (active hormone). I recently found a tidbit that may affect thyoid conversion problems for many..T4 to T3 conversion does not take place when there is vit A deficiency. sol -- T -- Alan Jones
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Also adding that I have been taking all along also but have no blue moons. So, don't think any of us are 100% sure and would like to know for sure. Thanks, Lesle - Original Message - From: Neville Munn To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:09 PM Subject: RE: CShypothyroid Thanks Leslie, No, I'm afraid I don't have any other reasoning for it, although there may be a multitude of reasons which only the individual concerned could work out or determine. I just wanted to know how you determined EIS caused it that's all. N. -- From: leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:45:52 -0500 Yes. I have kept up with all the testimonies concerning blue moons. We both take CS but she was taking much more at a time than me; thinking more was better. She had lots of mercury also (I did too) so thought this might play a part in not being able to disperse the CS properly. If you have any other reasoning, I would love to hear it. Leslie -- With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. Looking for a new home?
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Being hypothyroid and having done this, I would not recommend it to anyone. It can also lead to thyroid nodules and autoimmune thyroid issues. PT - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed simple by ingesting sufficient iodine. The Yahoo Group named iodine can get you up to speed on iodine in very short order. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Having been hypothryoid and having done this, I would *highly* that folks with that condition look into the high iodine dosing. I am no longer hypothyroid and it cleared up a lot of other issues for me. Another case of varying mileage. Craig needling around wrote: Being hypothyroid and having done this, I would not recommend it to anyone. It can also lead to thyroid nodules and autoimmune thyroid issues. PT - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed simple by ingesting sufficient iodine. The Yahoo Group named iodine can get you up to speed on iodine in very short order. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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How high was your dosage, and for how long did you take it? Alan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Having been hypothryoid and having done this, I would *highly* that folks with that condition look into the high iodine dosing. I am no longer hypothyroid and it cleared up a lot of other issues for me. Another case of varying mileage. Craig needling around wrote: Being hypothyroid and having done this, I would not recommend it to anyone. It can also lead to thyroid nodules and autoimmune thyroid issues. PT - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed simple by ingesting sufficient iodine. The Yahoo Group named iodine can get you up to speed on iodine in very short order. pj -- Alan Jones
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If you don't take enough selenium with the Iodine it WILL cause you grief and CAN damage the thyroid. I've upped my dose to 50 mg per day of 2% Lugol's, I started with 5 mg and worked my way up slowly, and I take 400 - 600 mg of the selenomethionine form of Selenium daily. When I don't take the Iodine I feel like crap. My thyroid felt swollen on one side and I had a small nodule on my thyroid which is slowly shrinking. The doc did not do a thyroid antibody test but he did say I had elevated antibodies according to my lab results. When I first started taking the Iodine my thyroid swelled some, but it is now a normal size. I feel physically much better. Detox/herx symptoms can be a bear but if you take extra magnesium, vit C, selenium, zinc and copper, and manganese, and use sea salt and plenty of water this can be reduced greatly. That and backing off on the dose until you feel a bit better. If you have a lot of toxins to detox the detox pathways can be overcome and this causes the detox/herx symptoms, or a viral load die off, or candida/fungus die off. The minerals the shepherd the halides, mercury and other stuff out are the ones I've listed above. You don't have a chance to get too much of them because the get used up binding to toxins and carrying them out, usually through the urine. And the body needs some of them for regular maintenance and enzyme production. I also added milk thistle, and dandelion to my regime to support the liver, and R ALA to boost glutathione. It also helped that I found a pitcher that filters everything including 80 - 90 % of fluoride from my tap water. And cutting out MSG, aspartame, and breads made from brominated flours, as well as all soft drinks, and upping my pure water intake to nearly 90 0z per day. I also added vit D3, and sea salt to my regime quite a while back and cut out almost all the processed salt. Those with autoimmune hypothyroid issues MUST take the selenium, it's NOT an option, or it WILL cause problems, especially with antibodies. I get so tired of people not doing it the recommended way and then saying it's harmful. Or expecting it to work over night. Stephanie's(The Iodine list Mom) husband took at least a year to bring his Hashi's antibodies down to nothing. So it's a long term thing, and sometimes in the interim the thyroid usually WILL swell to grab more Iodine, when it has enough it will start to reduce in size. My thyroid kind of went up and down in size for two months or so before it settled down. But man oh man the detoxing I was doing during that time. I won't say that my thyroid swelling up even more, like that didn't scare me to death, it did, but I was also told that it would go back down again, and it did. But I guess everyone gets to health in their own way, there are many choices out there and a lot of research. I researched Iodine, the recommendations of nutrients to take with it and why, and the even the reports against it, thoroughly for several months before I made the decision to buy the Iodine and give it go. I haven't been sorry yet. Well except for an initial bad detox/herx reaction, LOL. I haven't lowered my thyroid med dose yet, I still have to get blood work done to see what my TSH, T4, T3 levels are doing. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Alan Jones wrote: How high was your dosage, and for how long did you take it? Alan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com mailto:craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Having been hypothryoid and having done this, I would *highly* that folks with that condition look into the high iodine dosing. I am no longer hypothyroid and it cleared up a lot of other issues for me. Another case of varying mileage. Craig needling around wrote: Being hypothyroid and having done this, I would not recommend it to anyone. It can also lead to thyroid nodules and autoimmune thyroid issues. PT - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed simple by ingesting sufficient iodine. The Yahoo Group named iodine can get you up to speed on iodine in very short order. pj -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Re: CShypothyroid If you don't take enough selenium with the Iodine it WILL cause you grief and CAN damage the thyroid. I've upped my dose to 50 mg per day of 2% Lugol's, I started with 5 mg and worked my way up slowly, and I take 400 - 600 mg of the selenomethionine form of Selenium daily. When I don't take the Iodine I feel like crap. My thyroid felt swollen on one side and I had a small nodule on my thyroid which is slowly shrinking. The doc did not do a thyroid antibody test but he did say I had elevated antibodies according to my lab results. When I first started taking the Iodine my thyroid swelled some, but it is now a normal size. I feel physically much better. Detox/herx symptoms can be a bear but if you take extra magnesium, vit C, selenium, zinc and copper, and manganese, and use sea salt and plenty of water this can be reduced greatly. That and backing off on the dose until you feel a bit better. If you have a lot of toxins to detox the detox pathways can be overcome and this causes the detox/herx symptoms, or a viral load die off, or candida/fungus die off. The minerals the shepherd the halides, mercury and other stuff out are the ones I've listed above. You don't have a chance to get too much of them because the get used up binding to toxins and carrying them out, usually through the urine. And the body needs some of them for regular maintenance and enzyme production. I also added milk thistle, and dandelion to my regime to support the liver, and R ALA to boost glutathione. It also helped that I found a pitcher that filters everything including 80 - 90 % of fluoride from my tap water. And cutting out MSG, aspartame, and breads made from brominated flours, as well as all soft drinks, and upping my pure water intake to nearly 90 0z per day. I also added vit D3, and sea salt to my regime quite a while back and cut out almost all the processed salt. Those with autoimmune hypothyroid issues MUST take the selenium, it's NOT an option, or it WILL cause problems, especially with antibodies. I get so tired of people not doing it the recommended way and then saying it's harmful. Or expecting it to work over night. Stephanie's(The Iodine list Mom) husband took at least a year to bring his Hashi's antibodies down to nothing. So it's a long term thing, and sometimes in the interim the thyroid usually WILL swell to grab more Iodine, when it has enough it will start to reduce in size. My thyroid kind of went up and down in size for two months or so before it settled down. But man oh man the detoxing I was doing during that time. I won't say that my thyroid swelling up even more, like that didn't scare me to death, it did, but I was also told that it would go back down again, and it did. But I guess everyone gets to health in their own way, there are many choices out there and a lot of research. I researched Iodine, the recommendations of nutrients to take with it and why, and the even the reports against it, thoroughly for several months before I made the decision to buy the Iodine and give it go. I haven't been sorry yet. Well except for an initial bad detox/herx reaction, LOL. I haven't lowered my thyroid med dose yet, I still have to get blood work done to see what my TSH, T4, T3 levels are doing. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Alan Jones wrote: How high was your dosage, and for how long did you take it? Alan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com mailto:craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Having been hypothryoid and having done this, I would *highly* that folks with that condition look into the high iodine dosing. I am no longer hypothyroid and it cleared up a lot of other issues for me. Another case of varying mileage. Craig needling around wrote: Being hypothyroid and having done this, I would not recommend it to anyone. It can also lead to thyroid nodules and autoimmune thyroid issues. PT - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed simple by ingesting sufficient iodine
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Yes PT here ya go:) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh needling around wrote: Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/ You might like the Natural thyroid list info too. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones/ Getting a good diagnosis as to the type of thyroid problems you have is important as not all types take to the same treatment well. IF you have conversion problem it might actually be low iron or low adrenals that is causing the body not to assimilate the thyroid hormones properly (my problem is not assimilating properly, though I have high iron as well, so might be more adrenal that iron. Though this has not been totally diagnosed I have treated it homoeopathically and with Australian Bush Flower Essences Louise -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShypothyroid Would you mind sharing the address of the iodine list. I was taking selenium and I was under the care of 2 alternative doctors and I still ended up with a problem. At this point I am taking time release T3 for Wilson's body temp syndrome and it is the first thing that has helped. They think the problem might be in the conversion from one form to the other. All of the other things, I do. Thanks. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Problem is that lack of iodine is not the only reason there would be symptoms of low thyroid. Louise -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CShypothyroid Hypothyroidism can be fairly quickly reversed simple by ingesting sufficient iodine. The Yahoo Group named iodine can get you up to speed on iodine in very short order. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
