Re: National Zoo Panda Cams

[David E. Ross]

On 4/16/2018 7:45 PM, xxyyz wrote:
> SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
> the Smithsonian panda cams at
>   http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
> to play?
> 

No problem here.  I have both Flash and HTML5 Media enabled along with
images from all domains.

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And then you say you will, but then won't.
You're undecided now, so what're you goin' to do?
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Re: National Zoo Panda Cams

[Paul in Houston, TX]

xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-04-16 11:44 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
  http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
to play?


I can't get any of the three cams (lion, panda, elephant) to work with SM or 
IE11.
They all say "Stream Unavailable".  Clicking on the start arrow does not send a 
packet,
at least not for me anyways.
Sounds to me like the cams are not working.

Thank you, Paul.  But all four work on the iPad - so is it
Windows or SeaMonkey or a missing codec or ... ?


Interesting!  Pehaps they only work on Pads, phones, etc.

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Re: National Zoo Panda Cams

[xxyyz]

On 2018-04-16 11:44 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
  http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
to play?


I can't get any of the three cams (lion, panda, elephant) to work with SM or 
IE11.
They all say "Stream Unavailable".  Clicking on the start arrow does not send a 
packet,
at least not for me anyways.
Sounds to me like the cams are not working.

Thank you, Paul.  But all four work on the iPad - so is it
Windows or SeaMonkey or a missing codec or ... ?
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Re: Website Blocked?

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 4/16/2018 4:43 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 16/04/18 04:39:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Why do I get an "Access To Website Blocked" message for this site:
www.hayneedle.com


Good question.  There is not much in the source.
However, if you use www.hayneedleinc.com it works.
My guess is that the website itself redirects to hayneedleinc but it
does not work with
my versions SM or FS.  It does work with IE11.


Clicking either link works for me. The second link gives a "This page is
only partially encrypted  " type warning!

Hayneedleinc.com seems to give a company page, not the home page for 
consumers that lists it's products.


Hayneedle.com works for me.

 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.2

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Re: National Zoo Panda Cams

[Paul in Houston, TX]

xxyyz wrote:

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
  http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
to play?


I can't get any of the three cams (lion, panda, elephant) to work with SM or 
IE11.
They all say "Stream Unavailable".  Clicking on the start arrow does not send a 
packet,
at least not for me anyways.
Sounds to me like the cams are not working.
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National Zoo Panda Cams

[xxyyz]

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
 http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Lee]

On 4/16/18, Desiree  wrote:
> On 4/15/2018 7:54 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>> Ant via support-seamonkey composed on 2018-04-15 22:47 (UTC-0700):
>>
>>> Well, unsupported doesn't always mean blocked. Also, what about Firefox
>>> ESR versions? :/
>>
>> Same moronic limitation with FF ESR52, but
>>
>>  general.useragent.override.usps.com
>>
>> containing:
>>
>>  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows > NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101
>> Firefox/59.0");
>>
>> or similar showing a sufficiently newer than 52.0 version works.
>>
> I entered in about:config:
>
> general.useragent.override.usps.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64;
> x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0
>
> This works fine for Basilisk 2018.03.21 (x64) and SeaMonkey.  On Fx
> 52.7.3 ESR, it does not work on either Windows 10 Pro (1709) or Windows
> 8.0 Pro.

That capability was removed years ago in Firefox.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=933959#c2
 Comment 2 • 5 years ago

We intentionally don't initialize the UserAgentOverrides module on
desktop anymore. If you want to use it, you need an add-on for that.


note that general.useragent.override still works - it's the ability to
do a site specific override that the ff devs removed

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Desiree]

On 4/15/2018 7:54 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Ant via support-seamonkey composed on 2018-04-15 22:47 (UTC-0700):

Well, unsupported doesn't always mean blocked. Also, what about Firefox 
ESR versions? :/ 


Same moronic limitation with FF ESR52, but

general.useragent.override.usps.com

containing:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows > NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0");

or similar showing a sufficiently newer than 52.0 version works.


I entered in about:config:

general.useragent.override.usps.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; 
x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0


This works fine for Basilisk 2018.03.21 (x64) and SeaMonkey.  On Fx 
52.7.3 ESR, it does not work on either Windows 10 Pro (1709) or Windows 
8.0 Pro.

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Paul B. Gallagher]

NFN Smith wrote:

For spoofing (and I do it a lot, for a number of reasons), my preference 
is to use an extension.  User Agent Switcher and PrefBar are both quite 
workable. Personally, I find PrefBar a little easier to use, and I also 
like some of the additional capacities that PrefBar gives me.


To me, the key thing about using an extension is that it allows me to 
change user agents on the fly, and then switch back to the standard one 
when the need has passed.  Besides the noted effect on user agent 
handling in the mail client, I sometimes may spoof more than one agent 
at a particular site -- I have an archive of downloaded software that I 
use for tech support, and some sites are aggressive about doing browser 
sniffing for what platform you're running, and then offering *only* the 
download that matches what they find.  Thus, running from Windows, if I 
want Mac or Linux versions, I have to spoof the UA.  UA spoofing is also 
good for testing my web site, particularly in verifying that the site is 
correctly rejecting bot traffic that displays UAs from browsers that 
were never valid -- on my site, I see a lot of traffic purporting to be 
from "Firefox 40.1".


+1

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Ray_Net]

NFN Smith wrote on 16-04-18 20:11:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages

through USPS using SeaMonkey.

When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue

access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read more ›





Add a new UA string.
My SM works just fine.  YouTube works, YahooMail works.
More than likely my SM will continue to work with USPS.
I sent a package last week and have been tracking it.
I don't get the message that you get.



I checked the offered link, which leads to 
https://www.usps.com/browser-check/.  On that, the oldest Mozilla 
browser listed is 58.0.1 -- not even 57.0.  Thus, it means that 
Firefox 52 ESR isn't going to be supported, either.


A couple of considerations on spoofing:

- If you spoof the browser, it also changes the User Agent heading in 
the email.  I use the Display Mail User Agent extension, and Paul, 
your posting shows that it was done with Firefox, rather than a mail 
client.


- The standard UA string for Seamonkey 2.49.2 is:

   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.2


I suspect that if you change this string to show "Firefox/59.0", 
that's probably enough to make the warning go away. It's likely that 
the sniffing is only looking for the specific Firefox version, and 
ignoring the rest of the string, including that you're actually 
running Seamonkey.


For spoofing, it's certainly possible to change the settings in 
prefs.js or user.js, although I'm not sure what the effect would be if 
you prefs.js, and then upgrade to a later version of Seamonkey. It's 
likely that you may have to edit, to reflect the newer version.


For spoofing (and I do it a lot, for a number of reasons), my 
preference is to use an extension.  User Agent Switcher and PrefBar 
are both quite workable. Personally, I find PrefBar a little easier to 
use, and I also like some of the additional capacities that PrefBar 
gives me.


To me, the key thing about using an extension is that it allows me to 
change user agents on the fly, and then switch back to the standard 
one when the need has passed.  Besides the noted effect on user agent 
handling in the mail client, I sometimes may spoof more than one agent 
at a particular site -- I have an archive of downloaded software that 
I use for tech support, and some sites are aggressive about doing 
browser sniffing for what platform you're running, and then offering 
*only* the download that matches what they find.  Thus, running from 
Windows, if I want Mac or Linux versions, I have to spoof the UA.  UA 
spoofing is also good for testing my web site, particularly in 
verifying that the site is correctly rejecting bot traffic that 
displays UAs from browsers that were never valid -- on my site, I see 
a lot of traffic purporting to be from "Firefox 40.1".


Smith


It's more simple to have the latest FireFox installed on my pc, So when 
I have problem with SM, I jump into FireFox ... and all goes well ...

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-04-16 9:47 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/15/18 9:21 PM, cmcadams wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


The Firefox browser works here. Y'all enjoy your problems.


Sure, everybody knows Firefox is where all the cool kids are. All 
those folks doing their best to steer clear must just be nuts.


No, the compatible versions of Firefox, Chrome, Edge, IE11 and Safari 
are where all the modern web features are supported.


You may be able to fool the site with a fake UA, but will the site 
display properly in a browser that doesn't support those features.


It would have been nice if the USPS had listed what features will no 
longer be compatible.


It baffles me that they are not aware of Firefox ESR and supporting that 
browser.


It's important to remember that this is a support forum. The point is to 
help cmcadams get his problem solved, so he can continue to the use the 
browser he wants to use without problems. Comments like "Y'all enjoy 
your problems" are not helpful, and in my opinion, trolling.


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[NFN Smith]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages

through USPS using SeaMonkey.

When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue

access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read more ›





Add a new UA string.
My SM works just fine.  YouTube works, YahooMail works.
More than likely my SM will continue to work with USPS.
I sent a package last week and have been tracking it.
I don't get the message that you get.



I checked the offered link, which leads to 
https://www.usps.com/browser-check/.  On that, the oldest Mozilla 
browser listed is 58.0.1 -- not even 57.0.  Thus, it means that Firefox 
52 ESR isn't going to be supported, either.


A couple of considerations on spoofing:

- If you spoof the browser, it also changes the User Agent heading in 
the email.  I use the Display Mail User Agent extension, and Paul, your 
posting shows that it was done with Firefox, rather than a mail client.


- The standard UA string for Seamonkey 2.49.2 is:   

   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.2


I suspect that if you change this string to show "Firefox/59.0", that's 
probably enough to make the warning go away. It's likely that the 
sniffing is only looking for the specific Firefox version, and ignoring 
the rest of the string, including that you're actually running Seamonkey.


For spoofing, it's certainly possible to change the settings in prefs.js 
or user.js, although I'm not sure what the effect would be if you 
prefs.js, and then upgrade to a later version of Seamonkey. It's likely 
that you may have to edit, to reflect the newer version.


For spoofing (and I do it a lot, for a number of reasons), my preference 
is to use an extension.  User Agent Switcher and PrefBar are both quite 
workable. Personally, I find PrefBar a little easier to use, and I also 
like some of the additional capacities that PrefBar gives me.


To me, the key thing about using an extension is that it allows me to 
change user agents on the fly, and then switch back to the standard one 
when the need has passed.  Besides the noted effect on user agent 
handling in the mail client, I sometimes may spoof more than one agent 
at a particular site -- I have an archive of downloaded software that I 
use for tech support, and some sites are aggressive about doing browser 
sniffing for what platform you're running, and then offering *only* the 
download that matches what they find.  Thus, running from Windows, if I 
want Mac or Linux versions, I have to spoof the UA.  UA spoofing is also 
good for testing my web site, particularly in verifying that the site is 
correctly rejecting bot traffic that displays UAs from browsers that 
were never valid -- on my site, I see a lot of traffic purporting to be 
from "Firefox 40.1".


Smith


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Ray_Net]

cmcadams wrote on 16-04-18 08:36:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote on 15-04-18 17:16:
On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of 
digital genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a 
loyal user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to 
FireFox. It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between 
browsers for certain websites. I like having one browser for 
everything.


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Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites 
which is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.




Webmasters are not interested about SeaMonkey .. they ignore it and 
did not care about it.


My experience too. I'd point webmasters to someplace like 
geckoisgecko.org and they couldn't possibly have cared less.


What features does Seamonkey possess, precisely, that make it 
NECESSARY to tell them that it's Seamonkey, and not Firefox? If none, 
then it's just causing a lot of unnecessary trouble. The job of the UA 
string becomes to get our users in the door, and nothing else.


So, what is the latest FF version that SM can cover without technical 
hiccups? THAT should be our default UA string.



"THAT should be our default UA string" but the SeaMonkey developpers 
will NEVER accept this fact ... they are in their ivory-tower.

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

>> IE11 ...are where all the modern web features are supported.

This was a good one :)

> It would have been nice if the USPS had listed what features will no longer be
> compatible.

Probably none with IE11 and Safari listed. They just picked an arbitrary 
recent number for Fx.


FRG

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/15/18 9:21 PM, cmcadams wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/15/18 3:50 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Felix Miata wrote:

Ed Mullen composed on 2018-04-15 11:16 (UTC-0400):


Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:



user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");



That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which
is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.


Actual UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.2

Using for general.useragent.override.usps.com:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/50.0 or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0


First string doesn't work, second does, here.



The Firefox browser works here. Y'all enjoy your problems.



Sure, everybody knows Firefox is where all the cool kids are. All those 
folks doing their best to steer clear must just be nuts.





No, the compatible versions of Firefox, Chrome, Edge, IE11 and Safari are 
where all the modern web features are supported.


You may be able to fool the site with a fake UA, but will the site display 
properly in a browser that doesn't support those features.


It would have been nice if the USPS had listed what features will no longer be 
compatible.


It baffles me that they are not aware of Firefox ESR and supporting that 
browser.



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Re: text URL recognized in some incoming messages but not all

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Bob Fleischer wrote:


I often send text messages containing a URL in plain text.

If I send the message in plain text from Seamonkey, it is recognized by 
a recipient Seamonkey as a clickable link and displayed as such.


If I send the message in plain text from another mail program (in this 
case, Samsung's Android Email app), the plain text URL is not recognized 
nor displayed as a link.


Looking at the message source, the only difference I can see is that the 
plain text from Seamonkey is sent as 7-bit plain text, whereas the plain 
text from the app is encoded in base64.


Curiously, Samsung's app, when viewing such a message, does recognize 
the URL as a link.


Why is that, and can I change Seamonkey to recognize the URL in that case?


I have a similar experience with one listserv, which automatically 
converts all messages to HTML but does not recognize and mark URLs as 
links. If I post in HTML and make my own links, that works, though.


It's the sending app's fault, not ours.

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Re: text URL recognized in some incoming messages but not all

[Bob Fleischer]

On 4/16/2018 10:37 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/16/2018 7:26 AM, Bob Fleischer wrote:

I often send text messages containing a URL in plain text.

If I send the message in plain text from Seamonkey, it is recognized by a
recipient Seamonkey as a clickable link and displayed as such.

If I send the message in plain text from another mail program (in this case,
Samsung's Android Email app), the plain text URL is not recognized nor
displayed as a link.

Looking at the message source, the only difference I can see is that the
plain text from Seamonkey is sent as 7-bit plain text, whereas the plain
text from the app is encoded in base64.

Curiously, Samsung's app, when viewing such a message, does recognize the
URL as a link.

Why is that, and can I change Seamonkey to recognize the URL in that case?

Thanks,
Bob



Are all the links bracketed by < and > per RFC 3986?


No, none, in either case.  And adding them does not help.

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Re: text URL recognized in some incoming messages but not all

[David E. Ross]

On 4/16/2018 7:26 AM, Bob Fleischer wrote:
> I often send text messages containing a URL in plain text.
> 
> If I send the message in plain text from Seamonkey, it is recognized by a 
> recipient Seamonkey as a clickable link and displayed as such.
> 
> If I send the message in plain text from another mail program (in this case, 
> Samsung's Android Email app), the plain text URL is not recognized nor 
> displayed as a link.
> 
> Looking at the message source, the only difference I can see is that the 
> plain text from Seamonkey is sent as 7-bit plain text, whereas the plain 
> text from the app is encoded in base64.
> 
> Curiously, Samsung's app, when viewing such a message, does recognize the 
> URL as a link.
> 
> Why is that, and can I change Seamonkey to recognize the URL in that case?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
> 

Are all the links bracketed by < and > per RFC 3986?

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And then you say you will, but then won't.
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text URL recognized in some incoming messages but not all

[Bob Fleischer]

I often send text messages containing a URL in plain text.

If I send the message in plain text from Seamonkey, it is recognized by a 
recipient Seamonkey as a clickable link and displayed as such.


If I send the message in plain text from another mail program (in this case, 
Samsung's Android Email app), the plain text URL is not recognized nor 
displayed as a link.


Looking at the message source, the only difference I can see is that the 
plain text from Seamonkey is sent as 7-bit plain text, whereas the plain 
text from the app is encoded in base64.


Curiously, Samsung's app, when viewing such a message, does recognize the 
URL as a link.


Why is that, and can I change Seamonkey to recognize the URL in that case?

Thanks,
Bob
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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[WaltS48]

On 4/15/18 9:21 PM, cmcadams wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/15/18 3:50 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Felix Miata wrote:

Ed Mullen composed on 2018-04-15 11:16 (UTC-0400):


Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:



user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites 
which

is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.


Actual UA:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.2


Using for general.useragent.override.usps.com:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/50.0 or
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/59.0


First string doesn't work, second does, here.



The Firefox browser works here. Y'all enjoy your problems.



Sure, everybody knows Firefox is where all the cool kids are. All those 
folks doing their best to steer clear must just be nuts.





No, the compatible versions of Firefox, Chrome, Edge, IE11 and Safari 
are where all the modern web features are supported.


You may be able to fool the site with a fake UA, but will the site 
display properly in a browser that doesn't support those features.


It would have been nice if the USPS had listed what features will no 
longer be compatible.


It baffles me that they are not aware of Firefox ESR and supporting that 
browser.



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Re: Website Blocked?

[Tom Pamin]

Daniel wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 16/04/18 04:39:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Why do I get an "Access To Website Blocked" message for this site:
www.hayneedle.com


Good question.  There is not much in the source.
However, if you use www.hayneedleinc.com it works.
My guess is that the website itself redirects to hayneedleinc but it
does not work with
my versions SM or FS.  It does work with IE11.


Clicking either link works for me. The second link gives a "This page is
only partially encrypted  " type warning!

Hayneedleinc.com seems to give a company page, not the home page for 
consumers that lists it's products.

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

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On 4/15/2018 11:12 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 15-04-18 17:03:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 15-04-18 12:32:

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a 
loyal user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to 
FireFox. It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between 
browsers for certain websites. I like having one browser for 
everything.


USPS says they require versions 59, 58.0.1 of Firefox. Easily done 
-- just lie to them (spoof FF by changing your user agent string). 
Lots of ways to do it if you want to, just ask around.



SO the best and esay way id that SM MUST, BY DEFAULT, use this UAstring
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

instead tof this UAstring:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


THEREFORE ALL PROBLEMS about supported browsers WILL DISSAPEAR 

Because the browser engine IS FireFox AND NOT SeaMonkey.


We're right here, we can hear you fine, no need to SHOUT.

Since they require Firefox version 58.0.1 or above, I doubt that 
saying "Firefox/52.0" will work. That's why I suggested a user agent 
switcher.


Ok,yes, but the problem is because SM did not follow FireFox rapidly 
enough ...


Yep, and SM is having big blocker here like in its 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2018-04-08 web page.  :(


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

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Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote on 15-04-18 17:16:

On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to track my 
packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated browsers. To 
continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about to come 
to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for about 15 years, 
but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a pain in the neck to keep 
switching between browsers for certain websites. I like having one browser for 
everything.


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Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites which is good as 
it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.




Webmasters are not interested about SeaMonkey .. they ignore it and did not care 
about it.


My experience too. I'd point webmasters to someplace like geckoisgecko.org and they 
couldn't possibly have cared less.


What features does Seamonkey possess, precisely, that make it NECESSARY to tell them 
that it's Seamonkey, and not Firefox? If none, then it's just causing a lot of 
unnecessary trouble. The job of the UA string becomes to get our users in the door, 
and nothing else.


So, what is the latest FF version that SM can cover without technical hiccups? THAT 
should be our default UA string.



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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 15-04-18 17:16:
On 4/15/2018 at 2:22 AM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for 
certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.


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Add this to your prefs.js file with SM  closed:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.usps.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


That way you'll still be reporting as SeaMonkey on all other sites 
which is good as it lets site owners know about SeaMoney.




Webmasters are not interested about SeaMonkey .. they ignore it and did 
not care about it.

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 15-04-18 17:03:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 15-04-18 12:32:

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a 
loyal user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to 
FireFox. It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between 
browsers for certain websites. I like having one browser for 
everything.


USPS says they require versions 59, 58.0.1 of Firefox. Easily done 
-- just lie to them (spoof FF by changing your user agent string). 
Lots of ways to do it if you want to, just ask around.



SO the best and esay way id that SM MUST, BY DEFAULT, use this UAstring
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

instead tof this UAstring:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


THEREFORE ALL PROBLEMS about supported browsers WILL DISSAPEAR 

Because the browser engine IS FireFox AND NOT SeaMonkey.


We're right here, we can hear you fine, no need to SHOUT.

Since they require Firefox version 58.0.1 or above, I doubt that 
saying "Firefox/52.0" will work. That's why I suggested a user agent 
switcher.


Ok,yes, but the problem is because SM did not follow FireFox rapidly 
enough ...

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

From its https://www.usps.com/browser-check/ link:

"... As of April 30, 2018, some features on USPS.com® will not be 
compatible with past versions of browsers. Upgrade your preferred 
browser to the most current version to have uninterrupted access and 
protect yourself with the latest security updates."


Some features. So, overall older web browsers will still work. I wonder 
what features will not work in them like SeaMonkey, older Firefox (e.g., 
ESR).



On 4/15/2018 10:47 PM, Ant wrote:
Well, unsupported doesn't always mean blocked. Also, what about Firefox 
ESR versions? :/



On 4/14/2018 11:22 PM, Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
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