Re: A new PDF problem...
i guess there is no solution i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy the newer version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a major flaw in sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates required thus perfect product, updates are to rectify flaws) now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7 for xp to use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk seamonkey if it does not rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it subserve ur users else people will migrate. wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey. alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes. soon it will be there goes my mozilla!! i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...in seamonkey
On 7/10/2013 9:45 AM, A Williams wrote: uttam.ha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:57:57 PM UTC+5:30, uttam...@gmail.com wrote: i guess there is no solution i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy the newer version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a major flaw in sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates required thus perfect product, updates are to rectify flaws) now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7 for xp to use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk seamonkey if it does not rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it subserve ur users else people will migrate. wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey. alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes. soon it will be there goes my mozilla!! i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse. Alas the plugin is a acrobat 11 reader Have you checked if installing Acrobat Reader 11 breaks Acrobat Professional 7? I imagine you could test this, reinstalling the ancient version if AR11 breaks it. I'm in a similar situation. I have the older Acrobat suite when I need to make and edit PDFs but use the plug in for web work. This works well because some web PDFs have features that are not in my older Acrobat suite anyway. There is some confusion because occasionally a web link will open the wrong Acrobat but for the most part this works well. I think I had to install the reader after the full (older) version. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...in seamonkey
uttam.ha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:57:57 PM UTC+5:30, uttam...@gmail.com wrote: i guess there is no solution i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy the newer version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a major flaw in sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates required thus perfect product, updates are to rectify flaws) now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7 for xp to use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk seamonkey if it does not rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it subserve ur users else people will migrate. wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey. alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes. soon it will be there goes my mozilla!! i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse. Alas the plugin is a acrobat 11 reader Have you checked if installing Acrobat Reader 11 breaks Acrobat Professional 7? I imagine you could test this, reinstalling the ancient version if AR11 breaks it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...in seamonkey
On 7/10/2013 1:29 AM, uttam.ha...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:57:57 PM UTC+5:30, uttam...@gmail.com wrote: i guess there is no solution i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy the newer version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a major flaw in sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates required thus perfect product, updates are to rectify flaws) now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7 for xp to use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk seamonkey if it does not rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it subserve ur users else people will migrate. wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey. alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes. soon it will be there goes my mozilla!! i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse. Alas the plugin is a acrobat 11 reader Try the following (assuming that you retained the installer for Adobe Acrobat): 1. Uninstall both Adobe Acrobat (the writer) and Adobe Reader. 2. Install Adobe Acrobat. 3. Install Adobe Reader. In the past, I found that the sequence in which the writer and reader are installed makes a big difference. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Concerned about someone (e.g., the government) snooping into your E-mail? Use PGP. See my http://www.rossde.com/PGP/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...in seamonkey
On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 1:57:57 PM UTC+5:30, uttam...@gmail.com wrote: i guess there is no solution i use my trusted acrobat 7 professional and have felt no need to buy the newer version it keeps popping ( i seriously feel that this is a major flaw in sofware industry till someone comes up with no updates required thus perfect product, updates are to rectify flaws) now with sea monkey this will not be useable, just as i junked win7 for xp to use my trusted softwares , i guess i will soon junk seamonkey if it does not rectify, symbiotic nature is nice if it subserve ur users else people will migrate. wonder if its time to RIP for seamonkey. alteast chrome is still not an issue, ie 7 is as it just crashes. soon it will be there goes my mozilla!! i have not found a soln yet. scavanged the web but no recourse. Alas the plugin is a acrobat 11 reader ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
On 03.01.2013 14:27, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: --- Original Message --- Ed Mullen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WaltS wrote: So are you and Bill sure that the reader plugin is updated when you get updates to the program versions you have installed, or doesn't the Adobe Acrobat program have a reader plugin? Acrobat 10 does have a plugin, which for some reason is listed twice in about:plugins on my system: ... In about:config set plugin.expose_full_path to true. Then when you do about:plugins you can see where the files are. You probably have more than one copy of the Adobe plugin in different places. Sure enough: File: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat 10.0\Acrobat\Air\nppdf32.dll File: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat 10.0\Acrobat\browser\nppdf32.dll OK to keep both, or should I delete one? OS = Win7Pro SP1 No problem keeping both. But if you want to satisfy your curiosity then rename one of 'em and see what happens. -- Jay Garcia - www.ufaq.org - Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/ Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Jay Garcia wrote: On 03.01.2013 14:27, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Sure enough: File: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat 10.0\Acrobat\Air\nppdf32.dll File: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat 10.0\Acrobat\browser\nppdf32.dll OK to keep both, or should I delete one? OS = Win7Pro SP1 No problem keeping both. But if you want to satisfy your curiosity then rename one of 'em and see what happens. OK, thanks. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:39:20 -0800, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/2/13 7:50 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: No copy-and-paste functionality exposed in the plug-ins manager (grr), so herewith best effort at human copy-and-replicate : A workaround for this is to go to about:plugins instead of going to about:addons-Plugins tab. The older about:plugins still works in SeaMonkey and can be copy and pasted e.g. VLC Web Plugin File: npvlc.dll Version: 2.0.0.0 VLC media player Web Plugin 2.0.0 MIME Type Description Suffixes audio/mpeg MPEG audio mp2,mp3,mpga,mpega audio/x-mpegMPEG audio mp2,mp3,mpga,mpega video/mpeg MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe ... etc... This is bug #246400 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246400. It's almost 9 years old. See also bug #726605 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726605 and bug #727521 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727521 regarding the same problem with Troubleshooting Information. (The latter is NOT a duplicate of the former. #727521 is strictly for Thunderbird, whose affected code is forked from the Toolkit code addressed in #726605.) Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WaltS wrote: So are you and Bill sure that the reader plugin is updated when you get updates to the program versions you have installed, or doesn't the Adobe Acrobat program have a reader plugin? Acrobat 10 does have a plugin, which for some reason is listed twice in about:plugins on my system: Adobe Acrobat File: nppdf32.dll Version: 10.1.4.38 Adobe PDF Plug-In For Firefox and Netscape 10.1.4 MIME Type Description Suffixes application/pdf Acrobat Portable Document Format pdf application/vnd.adobe.pdfxml Adobe PDF in XML Format pdfxml application/vnd.adobe.x-mars Adobe PDF in XML Format mars application/vnd.fdf Acrobat Forms Data Format fdf application/vnd.adobe.xfdf XML Version of Acrobat Forms Data Format xfdf application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml Acrobat XML Data Package xdp application/vnd.adobe.xfd+xml Adobe FormFlow99 Data File xfd Adobe Acrobat File: nppdf32.dll Version: 10.1.4.38 Adobe PDF Plug-In For Firefox and Netscape 10.1.4 MIME Type Description Suffixes application/pdf Acrobat Portable Document Format pdf application/vnd.adobe.pdfxml Adobe PDF in XML Format pdfxml application/vnd.adobe.x-mars Adobe PDF in XML Format mars application/vnd.fdf Acrobat Forms Data Format fdf application/vnd.adobe.xfdf XML Version of Acrobat Forms Data Format xfdf application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml Acrobat XML Data Package xdp application/vnd.adobe.xfd+xml Adobe FormFlow99 Data File xfd In about:config set plugin.expose_full_path to true. Then when you do about:plugins you can see where the files are. You probably have more than one copy of the Adobe plugin in different places. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise my hands ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
BIll Spikowski wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily reversible? I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings they keep providing! I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that finally works for me... Sorry to be so long in replying, been off-line a few days. If you disable a plug-in it is easily re-enabled. No harm done. Just use Tools - Add-ons Manager. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ I have NOT lost my mind! I've got a backup around here somewhere. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Ray_Net wrote: Ed Mullen wrote, On 31/12/2012 18:39: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: http://www.foxitsoftware.com/ Is it possible to use Foxit PDF reader installed with (Adobe Reader installed and fully functionnal), just for testing ? Yes. You may have to go into Edit - Preferences - Helper Applications and change the Action for PDF files. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ If a man stands in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Ed Mullen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WaltS wrote: So are you and Bill sure that the reader plugin is updated when you get updates to the program versions you have installed, or doesn't the Adobe Acrobat program have a reader plugin? Acrobat 10 does have a plugin, which for some reason is listed twice in about:plugins on my system: ... In about:config set plugin.expose_full_path to true. Then when you do about:plugins you can see where the files are. You probably have more than one copy of the Adobe plugin in different places. Sure enough: File: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat 10.0\Acrobat\Air\nppdf32.dll File: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat 10.0\Acrobat\browser\nppdf32.dll OK to keep both, or should I delete one? OS = Win7Pro SP1 -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 03/01/2013 21:27: Ed Mullen wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WaltS wrote: So are you and Bill sure that the reader plugin is updated when you get updates to the program versions you have installed, or doesn't the Adobe Acrobat program have a reader plugin? Acrobat 10 does have a plugin, which for some reason is listed twice in about:plugins on my system: ... In about:config set plugin.expose_full_path to true. Then when you do about:plugins you can see where the files are. You probably have more than one copy of the Adobe plugin in different places. Sure enough: File: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat 10.0\Acrobat\Air\nppdf32.dll File: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat 10.0\Acrobat\browser\nppdf32.dll OK to keep both, or should I delete one? OS = Win7Pro SP1 I have no problem with PDF. I have nppdf32.dll in the 3 locations explained here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Issues_related_to_plugins where we can read: In some cases, plugins are stored in multiple locations but only one location may be shown in the /about:plugins/ list. For example, on Windows, the Adobe Reader http://kb.mozillazine.org/Adobe_Reader plugin file nppdf32.dll might be detected in the Firefox or SeaMonkey plugins folder (e.g., C:\Program Files (X86)\SeaMonkey\plugins\) because the application installer placed it there. Another nppdf32.dll plugin is also stored in the application's own program folder (e.g., /C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\browser\nppdf32.dll/ or /C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\AIR\nppdf32.dll/) and it will then be detected if the plugin file is removed from the the Firefox or SeaMonkey plugins folder. *Note:* In currently-installed versions of Mozilla browsers on Windows, the /installation directory http://kb.mozillazine.org/Installation_directory\plugins/ folder no longer exists by default but will be created, if needed. [10] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564987#c5 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/31/12 9:53 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily reversible? I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings they keep providing! I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that finally works for me... Your Adobe Acrobat 9.5 -- is that the reader or the writer? I found out years ago that if you install the writer, you need to reinstall the reader. Yes, they will work okay without doing that; but SeaMonkey will then view PDF files in the writer instead of the reader. Also, you should turn off updates. On the reader's menu bar, select [Edit Preferences Updater], select the last radio button, and then the okay button. Periodically, manually check http://get.adobe.com/reader/ to see if there is a new version. The current version of the reader is 11.0. My Acrobat 9.5 is the full version of Acrobat -- which includes all the reader functions, but also all the writer functions, plus the PDF editing functions. SM (and Firefox) often seems to confuse these two programs. For instance, on my office computer, the Add-ons Manager correctly reports Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 as my plug-in, but its update link would replace it with Adobe Reader 11, which for me would be a huge downgrade in functionality. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
WaltS wrote: On 12/31/2012 12:53 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily reversible? I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings they keep providing! I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that finally works for me... I would think this also applies to SeaMonkey. Adobe Reader 9.5.1 and below was blocked in October 2012. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p156 I don't know why anyone would continue to use READER 9.5.1, when a free upgrade to 11 is easily available, as are numerous competing products that many people prefer. But I'm using the full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1, not Reader 9.5.1. I think SM is confusing the two. Acrobat 9.5.1 is updated constantly; it's not the latest version, but it's hardly obsolete, or unpatched as to security. I think you've identified the source of my problem -- that SM thinks I'm using READER 9.5.1 and is blocking it for my own good. Understanding that should help me find some solution ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Paul wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! On one test machine, why not turn off adobe bloatware and install Foxit? 10 megs vs. 110 megs. The old Foxit 2.2 works well for me. I don't get viruses. I often use Foxit, but not with SM where it insists on replacing Acrobat. Foxit's a nice product, but it's only my first choice for certain functions where I've found it superior. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
BIll Spikowski wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I found out years ago that if you install the writer, you need to reinstall the reader. Yes, they will work okay without doing that; but SeaMonkey will then view PDF files in the writer instead of the reader. Also, you should turn off updates. On the reader's menu bar, select [Edit Preferences Updater], select the last radio button, and then the okay button. Periodically, manually check http://get.adobe.com/reader/ to see if there is a new version. The current version of the reader is 11.0. My Acrobat 9.5 is the full version of Acrobat -- which includes all the reader functions, but also all the writer functions, plus the PDF editing functions. SM (and Firefox) often seems to confuse these two programs. For instance, on my office computer, the Add-ons Manager correctly reports Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 as my plug-in, but its update link would replace it with Adobe Reader 11, which for me would be a huge downgrade in functionality. I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
If you don't have the reader, you cannot assess what functionality will be exposed in PDFs that you create for those that cannot afford the full product. Like Bill, I too am infuriated by the latest Seamonkey's blatant refusal to allow me to use whichever version of Adobe Acrobat I choose without continually going into Nanny knows best mode. Philip Taylor Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
On 02.01.2013 08:20, Philip TAYLOR wrote: --- Original Message --- Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. If you don't have the reader, you cannot assess what functionality will be exposed in PDFs that you create for those that cannot afford the full product. Like Bill, I too am infuriated by the latest Seamonkey's blatant refusal to allow me to use whichever version of Adobe Acrobat I choose without continually going into Nanny knows best mode. Philip Taylor If you're running Acrobat which includes the reader then there is no reason to run the plugin check which will tell you to upgrade reader. Acrobat itself, as usual, will let you know if there is an upgrade. Mine does and I never find the need for plugincheck to do so. -- Jay Garcia - www.ufaq.org - Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/ Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Jay Garcia wrote: If you're running Acrobat which includes the reader then there is no reason to run the plugin check which will tell you to upgrade reader. Acrobat itself, as usual, will let you know if there is an upgrade. Mine does and I never find the need for plugincheck to do so. I agree, there is no reason (for me) to run the plugin check; but I am not doing so -- Seamonkey is, w.e.f. the most recent version, and I cannot persuade it to stop doing so (and neither, it would see, can Bill). How do Bill I tell Seamonkey to stop performing its version check for Acrobat ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: If you're running Acrobat which includes the reader then there is no reason to run the plugin check which will tell you to upgrade reader. Acrobat itself, as usual, will let you know if there is an upgrade. Mine does and I never find the need for plugincheck to do so. I agree, there is no reason (for me) to run the plugin check; but I am not doing so -- Seamonkey is, w.e.f. the most recent version, and I cannot persuade it to stop doing so (and neither, it would see, can Bill). How do Bill I tell Seamonkey to stop performing its version check for Acrobat ? Philip Taylor Maybe setting this pref plugins.hide_infobar_for_outdated_plugin to true in about:config, or one of the other plugins.update prefs. -- Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.9.4 SeaMonkey Release ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
WaltS wrote: Maybe setting this pref plugins.hide_infobar_for_outdated_plugin to true in about:config, or one of the other plugins.update prefs. Thank you, Walt, but would that not hide it unconditionally ? I would like to be able to hide it selectively, for those (and only for those) plugs-in for which I am prepared to take personal responsibility, such as Adobe Acrobat (V7.0 Professional, in my case), and not for others which I have neither the desire nor the knowledge to control (e.g., Macromedia Flash). Philip Tay;pr ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
On 02.01.2013 08:56, WaltS wrote: --- Original Message --- Philip TAYLOR wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: If you're running Acrobat which includes the reader then there is no reason to run the plugin check which will tell you to upgrade reader. Acrobat itself, as usual, will let you know if there is an upgrade. Mine does and I never find the need for plugincheck to do so. I agree, there is no reason (for me) to run the plugin check; but I am not doing so -- Seamonkey is, w.e.f. the most recent version, and I cannot persuade it to stop doing so (and neither, it would see, can Bill). How do Bill I tell Seamonkey to stop performing its version check for Acrobat ? Philip Taylor Maybe setting this pref plugins.hide_infobar_for_outdated_plugin to true in about:config, or one of the other plugins.update prefs. This one as well: plugins.hide_infobar_for_missing_plugin Mine are set to the default false, but then again I always rely on the application itself to alert for an update(s). -- Jay Garcia - www.ufaq.org - Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/ Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
On 01/02/2013 10:05 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: WaltS wrote: Maybe setting this pref plugins.hide_infobar_for_outdated_plugin to true in about:config, or one of the other plugins.update prefs. Thank you, Walt, but would that not hide it unconditionally ? I would like to be able to hide it selectively, for those (and only for those) plugs-in for which I am prepared to take personal responsibility, such as Adobe Acrobat (V7.0 Professional, in my case), and not for others which I have neither the desire nor the knowledge to control (e.g., Macromedia Flash). Philip Tay;pr It would. So are you and Bill sure that the reader plugin is updated when you get updates to the program versions you have installed, or doesn't the Adobe Acrobat program have a reader plugin? -- Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.9.4 Thunderbird Release ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
On 01/02/2013 08:54 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote: WaltS wrote: On 12/31/2012 12:53 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily reversible? I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings they keep providing! I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that finally works for me... I would think this also applies to SeaMonkey. Adobe Reader 9.5.1 and below was blocked in October 2012. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p156 I don't know why anyone would continue to use READER 9.5.1, when a free upgrade to 11 is easily available, as are numerous competing products that many people prefer. But I'm using the full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1, not Reader 9.5.1. I think SM is confusing the two. Acrobat 9.5.1 is updated constantly; it's not the latest version, but it's hardly obsolete, or unpatched as to security. I think you've identified the source of my problem -- that SM thinks I'm using READER 9.5.1 and is blocking it for my own good. Understanding that should help me find some solution The full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 doesn't come with a reader plugin, and you have none showing in SeaMonkey under Tools Add-ons Manager Plugins? -- Fedora 17 (64-bit) KDE 4.9.4 Thunderbird Release ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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WaltS wrote: On 01/02/2013 10:05 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: but would that not hide it unconditionally ? It would. The full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 doesn't come with a reader plugin, and you have none showing in SeaMonkey under Tools Add-ons Manager Plugins? No copy-and-paste functionality exposed in the plug-ins manager (grr), so herewith best effort at human copy-and-replicate : /!\ An important update is available for Adobe Acrobat. _Update Now_ Adobe Acrobat 7.0.9.50 Adobe Acrobat Plug-In Vesrsion 7.00 for Netscape _More_ [Disable] So are you and Bill sure that the reader plugin is updated when you get updates to the program versions you have installed, or doesn't the Adobe Acrobat program have a reader plugin? I do not ask for/get updates; I wish to stay with version 7.0.9.50 in perpetuity. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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WaltS wrote: So are you and Bill sure that the reader plugin is updated when you get updates to the program versions you have installed, or doesn't the Adobe Acrobat program have a reader plugin? Acrobat 10 does have a plugin, which for some reason is listed twice in about:plugins on my system: Adobe Acrobat File: nppdf32.dll Version: 10.1.4.38 Adobe PDF Plug-In For Firefox and Netscape 10.1.4 MIME Type Description Suffixes application/pdf Acrobat Portable Document Formatpdf application/vnd.adobe.pdfxmlAdobe PDF in XML Format pdfxml application/vnd.adobe.x-marsAdobe PDF in XML Format mars application/vnd.fdf Acrobat Forms Data Format fdf application/vnd.adobe.xfdf XML Version of Acrobat Forms Data Format xfdf application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml Acrobat XML Data Packagexdp application/vnd.adobe.xfd+xml Adobe FormFlow99 Data File xfd Adobe Acrobat File: nppdf32.dll Version: 10.1.4.38 Adobe PDF Plug-In For Firefox and Netscape 10.1.4 MIME Type Description Suffixes application/pdf Acrobat Portable Document Formatpdf application/vnd.adobe.pdfxmlAdobe PDF in XML Format pdfxml application/vnd.adobe.x-marsAdobe PDF in XML Format mars application/vnd.fdf Acrobat Forms Data Format fdf application/vnd.adobe.xfdf XML Version of Acrobat Forms Data Format xfdf application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml Acrobat XML Data Packagexdp application/vnd.adobe.xfd+xml Adobe FormFlow99 Data File xfd -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 1/2/13 6:13 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. Full-featured Adobe Acrobat (reader and writer) costs money. Updates cost money. Once you have installed it, you have the capability of creating PDF files and really do not need updates to continue creating PDF files. However, you might need updates for the reader -- Adobe Reader -- to avoid security vulnerabilities from foreign PDF files (files you have downloaded from the Web or received as E-mail attachments). I have Adobe Acrobat 4.0 (from 1998?), which still meets my needs as a writer. Upgrading to a new version would cost me about $140. I also have Adobe Reader 11.0, the latest version. Upgrading was free. When I get a new PC, I just have to be careful to install Adobe Acrobat before I install Adobe Reader for SeaMonkey to use the latter. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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David E. Ross wrote: On 1/2/13 6:13 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. Full-featured Adobe Acrobat (reader and writer) costs money. I know that. That's why I said IF you have the full Acrobat program I was assuming you'd bought and paid for it already. Updates cost money. Updates within a version are free. Updates to new versions do cost money. But as you indicate below, you haven't updated to a new version in 14 years. Once you have installed it, you have the capability of creating PDF files and really do not need updates to continue creating PDF files. Yes. However, you might need updates for the reader -- Adobe Reader -- to avoid security vulnerabilities from foreign PDF files (files you have downloaded from the Web or received as E-mail attachments). This takes us back to my question -- why have the Reader at all if you already have Acrobat? Acrobat is perfectly capable of displaying and printing PDFs. I have Adobe Acrobat 4.0 (from 1998?), which still meets my needs as a writer. Upgrading to a new version would cost me about $140. I also have Adobe Reader 11.0, the latest version. Upgrading was free. When I get a new PC, I just have to be careful to install Adobe Acrobat before I install Adobe Reader for SeaMonkey to use the latter. So does Reader 11 let you view files that Acrobat 4 can't display? Is that the point? It hadn't occurred to me that you might still be running a 1998-vintage program. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
On 1/2/13 9:36 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 1/2/13 6:13 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. Full-featured Adobe Acrobat (reader and writer) costs money. I know that. That's why I said IF you have the full Acrobat program I was assuming you'd bought and paid for it already. Updates cost money. Updates within a version are free. Updates to new versions do cost money. But as you indicate below, you haven't updated to a new version in 14 years. Once you have installed it, you have the capability of creating PDF files and really do not need updates to continue creating PDF files. Yes. However, you might need updates for the reader -- Adobe Reader -- to avoid security vulnerabilities from foreign PDF files (files you have downloaded from the Web or received as E-mail attachments). This takes us back to my question -- why have the Reader at all if you already have Acrobat? Acrobat is perfectly capable of displaying and printing PDFs. I have Adobe Acrobat 4.0 (from 1998?), which still meets my needs as a writer. Upgrading to a new version would cost me about $140. I also have Adobe Reader 11.0, the latest version. Upgrading was free. When I get a new PC, I just have to be careful to install Adobe Acrobat before I install Adobe Reader for SeaMonkey to use the latter. So does Reader 11 let you view files that Acrobat 4 can't display? Is that the point? It hadn't occurred to me that you might still be running a 1998-vintage program. I have no idea if Acrobat 4 cannot view files that Reader 11 can. My configuration is setup so that opening a PDF file -- either in Windows XP or SeaMonkey 2.14.1 -- immediately goes to Reader 11. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 1/2/13 7:50 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: No copy-and-paste functionality exposed in the plug-ins manager (grr), so herewith best effort at human copy-and-replicate : This is bug #246400 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246400. It's almost 9 years old. See also bug #726605 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726605 and bug #727521 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727521 regarding the same problem with Troubleshooting Information. (The latter is NOT a duplicate of the former. #727521 is strictly for Thunderbird, whose affected code is forked from the Toolkit code addressed in #726605.) -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I found out years ago that if you install the writer, you need to reinstall the reader. Yes, they will work okay without doing that; but SeaMonkey will then view PDF files in the writer instead of the reader. Also, you should turn off updates. On the reader's menu bar, select [Edit Preferences Updater], select the last radio button, and then the okay button. Periodically, manually check http://get.adobe.com/reader/ to see if there is a new version. The current version of the reader is 11.0. My Acrobat 9.5 is the full version of Acrobat -- which includes all the reader functions, but also all the writer functions, plus the PDF editing functions. SM (and Firefox) often seems to confuse these two programs. For instance, on my office computer, the Add-ons Manager correctly reports Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 as my plug-in, but its update link would replace it with Adobe Reader 11, which for me would be a huge downgrade in functionality. I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of the crippled Reader. Without wanting to, I've experienced having both installed at the same time, and it was very difficult to untangle. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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David E. Ross wrote: On 1/2/13 9:36 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: So does Reader 11 let you view files that Acrobat 4 can't display? Is that the point? It hadn't occurred to me that you might still be running a 1998-vintage program. I have no idea if Acrobat 4 cannot view files that Reader 11 can. My configuration is setup so that opening a PDF file -- either in Windows XP or SeaMonkey 2.14.1 -- immediately goes to Reader 11. Well, I suppose a simple test would be to launch Acrobat 4 and ask it to open a few recent PDFs (using its own File|Open function). If it sometimes fails, that answers the question and justifies your use of Reader 11. If it never fails -- and never is a long time, I don't expect you to keep testing that long -- then you have no need for Reader 11. Chances are that some of the snazzier modern bells and whistles will be troublesome for a 1998 product. But I'm not a sales rep, do what you like. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
WaltS wrote: On 01/02/2013 08:54 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote: WaltS wrote: On 12/31/2012 12:53 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily reversible? I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings they keep providing! I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that finally works for me... I would think this also applies to SeaMonkey. Adobe Reader 9.5.1 and below was blocked in October 2012. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p156 I don't know why anyone would continue to use READER 9.5.1, when a free upgrade to 11 is easily available, as are numerous competing products that many people prefer. But I'm using the full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1, not Reader 9.5.1. I think SM is confusing the two. Acrobat 9.5.1 is updated constantly; it's not the latest version, but it's hardly obsolete, or unpatched as to security. I think you've identified the source of my problem -- that SM thinks I'm using READER 9.5.1 and is blocking it for my own good. Understanding that should help me find some solution The full Adobe Acrobat 9.5.1 doesn't come with a reader plugin, and you have none showing in SeaMonkey under Tools Add-ons Manager Plugins? Adobe explains nothing about whether Acrobat contains plug-ins. But I've been using Acrobat and SM/Mozilla/Netscape for fifteen years and have never had to do anything to make it work, except when SM decides that my long-working installation should be disabled (maybe once every couple of years). Right now my Add-ons Manager reports Adobe Acrobat 9.5.2.295 as Adobe PDF Plug-In for Firefox and Netscape 9.5.2 (A few days ago, it says 9.5.1.) Today it has stopped disabling Acrobat and everything is working fine, so I can't do any more troubleshooting. When I click check to see if your plugins are up to date, however, the Firefox plug-in checker reports 9.5.2 as outdated, even though it's only days old. But now I know better than to click update... For now, all is well! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of the crippled Reader. Can't say that's ever happened to me. I've heard of firewalls and such blocking installers, but SM has never done that. Without wanting to, I've experienced having both installed at the same time, and it was very difficult to untangle. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Won't be back. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of the crippled Reader. Can't say that's ever happened to me. I've heard of firewalls and such blocking installers, but SM has never done that. Seamonkey is not blocking the installer, it is blocking its own launcher, and refusing to allow Adobe Acrobat to launch as a plugin until the user has been forced to give it explicit permission. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of the crippled Reader. Can't say that's ever happened to me. I've heard of firewalls and such blocking installers, but SM has never done that. If it ever happens to you, this is what you'll see: You will click on a PDF link in SM mail or browser, expecting it to open in a new tab (at least that's how my system is set up); instead you'll be given a solid grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. There are other reasons for this screen occasionally appearing (usually that acrobat.exe is hung up), but this time you'll be asked to update Acrobat. If you accept, you will find Acrobat Reader 11 to be installed in place of your full Acrobat plug-in. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of the crippled Reader. Can't say that's ever happened to me. I've heard of firewalls and such blocking installers, but SM has never done that. Seamonkey is not blocking the installer, it is blocking its own launcher, and refusing to allow Adobe Acrobat to launch as a plugin until the user has been forced to give it explicit permission. Hunh. I admit I've occasionally gotten behind the times and run a slightly outdated version of Acrobat or its Reader, but SM has never been one to complain to me about it. Sure, I've gotten nags from the corresponding Adobe program, but never from SM. Maybe I need to change my prefs at Advanced | Software Installation... ;-) -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I've never been able to figure out why some people want to have both programs installed. If you have the full Acrobat program, what good is the Reader? You already have a perfectly good reader in Acrobat. So don't confuse them, and don't confuse the OS, and don't confuse SM. Delete the Reader and just run Acrobat. Paul, I agree completely -- that's why I'm frustrated when SM blocks the full Acrobat program and insists that I install a new version of the crippled Reader. Can't say that's ever happened to me. I've heard of firewalls and such blocking installers, but SM has never done that. If it ever happens to you, this is what you'll see: You will click on a PDF link in SM mail or browser, expecting it to open in a new tab (at least that's how my system is set up); instead you'll be given a solid grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. There are other reasons for this screen occasionally appearing (usually that acrobat.exe is hung up), but this time you'll be asked to update Acrobat. If you accept, you will find Acrobat Reader 11 to be installed in place of your full Acrobat plug-in. On Mac the PDFViewer.plugin (from Adobe) does not work on SeaMonkey and FireFox, Or any gecko based Browser. Nothing available .PDF.Js extension, or PDFBrowser.plugin (by Schubert of Germany) don't do Forms. I've tried to get in touch with Schubert but he doesn't answer his support email address. (suspect he has discontinue work or has passed away.) I need Forms to work. I use a Lot of PDF's on my Web site and use a Button when click goes back to a home page. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjones...@comcast.net ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
David E. Ross wrote, On 01/01/2013 01:26: On 12/31/12 9:53 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily reversible? I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings they keep providing! I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that finally works for me... Your Adobe Acrobat 9.5 -- is that the reader or the writer? I found out years ago that if you install the writer, you need to reinstall the reader. Yes, they will work okay without doing that; but SeaMonkey will then view PDF files in the writer instead of the reader. Also, you should turn off updates. On the reader's menu bar, select [Edit Preferences Updater], select the last radio button, and then the okay button. Periodically, manually check http://get.adobe.com/reader/ to see if there is a new version. The current version of the reader is 11.0. It's very strange that SM guru's say don't update acrobat reader BUT ...update SM as soons as a new version is available :-) And on the page http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/ we see We encourage you to *download the newer version* linked in the download box at the right to be safe from known vulnerabilities and be able to use the newest features in a stable SeaMonkey release. and IF the SM version installed is more old, SM work not normally, SM ADD on each page from any site a RED banner with something like Please Upgrade !!! In other words, about upgrading, SM say Do it for me, but don't do it for other programs :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Ed Mullen wrote, On 31/12/2012 18:39: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: http://www.foxitsoftware.com/ Is it possible to use Foxit PDF reader installed with (Adobe Reader installed and fully functionnal), just for testing ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
A new PDF problem...
I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: http://www.foxitsoftware.com/ -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Ambivalent? Well, yes and no. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
Ed Mullen wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily reversible? I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings they keep providing! I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that finally works for me... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: A new PDF problem...
On 12/31/12 9:53 AM, BIll Spikowski wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: BIll Spikowski wrote: I'm a longtime Seamonkey user with multiple computers at different locations. They all run Windows XP and are set up identically, to open PDF links in a new tab. For the past week or two, each computer frequently has the same problem. Instead of PDF links opening, I get a blank grey screen that says Check for updates... Click here to activate plugin. This used to happen occasionally and could be corrected by closing Acrobat.exe in Task Manager and reloading the PDF link, but now it happens very frequently on every computer -- and my old fix never works. Has anyone else encountered this problem? It just kills me to have to keep switching to clunky IE to open PDF links! Check in Tools - Add-ons Manager to see if there is a Adobe PDF plugin and deactivate it. Also, go into Adobe Reader and turn off updates. And unless you have some love for Adobe Reader, uninstall and get the free Foxit PDF reader: I have no love for Adobe Reader, but I use the full Adobe Acrobat version 9.5, which is listed as a plug-in in the Add-ons Manager. If I disable that, do you know what will happen? Is that decision easily reversible? I hesitate to turn off Adobe updates, given the dire security warnings they keep providing! I'm normally happy just to experiment, but when it comes to the interaction of Adobe Acrobat and Seamonkey, it's a complete mystery to me, and I've learned to hesitate tinkering with a PDF setup that finally works for me... Your Adobe Acrobat 9.5 -- is that the reader or the writer? I found out years ago that if you install the writer, you need to reinstall the reader. Yes, they will work okay without doing that; but SeaMonkey will then view PDF files in the writer instead of the reader. Also, you should turn off updates. On the reader's menu bar, select [Edit Preferences Updater], select the last radio button, and then the okay button. Periodically, manually check http://get.adobe.com/reader/ to see if there is a new version. The current version of the reader is 11.0. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph at http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html to see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Pdf problem in 1.1.18
Here is puzzling problem: In SM 1.1.18, I can view pdf files from the navigator with the internal viewer, but double-clicking on an attached pdf to an email leaves SM totally indifferent: no reaction whatsoever. The same attachment opens correctly when clicked upon from TB3, opening Adobe Acrobat which is installed on my system. Creating a helpers application does not help. Any ideas? Thanks -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Problem
On 16 ene, 11:49, Tom Pamin scnr...@roadrunner.com wrote: Todavía estoy la ventana de Adobe con la marca sólo una cuestión cuando se trata de para abrir archivos PDF con SM 1.1.18 y Windows 7 64-bit. ¿Alguien ha descubierto la manera de solucionar este problema? try Foxit reader http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/ include firefox plugins work in Seamonkey an K-meleon mi favorite browser, im tested, verified ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
PDF Problem
I'm still getting the Adobe window with only a question mark when trying to open pdf files with SM 1.1.18 and Windows 7 64-bit. Has anyone figured out how to fix this? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Problem
Tom Pamin wrote: I'm still getting the Adobe window with only a question mark when trying to open pdf files with SM 1.1.18 and Windows 7 64-bit. Has anyone figured out how to fix this? Tom, Have you tried the Adobe test page, it is possible the web site you are looking at has screwed up the .pdf coding for the .pdf file. https://forms.spb.ca.gov/employment/documents/pdfTest.pdf The above test page downloads an Adobe .pdf test page, so it may take a few seconds to fully load. Michael ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Problem
Michael Gordon wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I'm still getting the Adobe window with only a question mark when trying to open pdf files with SM 1.1.18 and Windows 7 64-bit. Has anyone figured out how to fix this? Tom, Have you tried the Adobe test page, it is possible the web site you are looking at has screwed up the .pdf coding for the .pdf file. https://forms.spb.ca.gov/employment/documents/pdfTest.pdf The above test page downloads an Adobe .pdf test page, so it may take a few seconds to fully load. Michael I'm getting the same question mark box with that page too. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Problem
Tom Pamin wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I'm still getting the Adobe window with only a question mark when trying to open pdf files with SM 1.1.18 and Windows 7 64-bit. Has anyone figured out how to fix this? Tom, Have you tried the Adobe test page, it is possible the web site you are looking at has screwed up the .pdf coding for the .pdf file. https://forms.spb.ca.gov/employment/documents/pdfTest.pdf The above test page downloads an Adobe .pdf test page, so it may take a few seconds to fully load. Michael I'm getting the same question mark box with that page too. Go to Preferences Browser application Helpers. IF using a PC go down list click on PDF. Choose AdobePDF Browser Plugin (if installed) or Reader or Acrobat, or whatever pdf viewer you have. Then Try: For Mac Users with similar problems Download and install PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert to your Internet-plug-ins folder works for all browser including, SeaMonkey and Safari. Once installed go to Preferences Browser. Application Helpers and choose the Plugin or choose acrobat or reader If you use Plugin allows for viewing within Browser. Other methods File is downloaded then viewed in Reader, Acrobat or any other viewer set. Some PDFs won't open in browser anyway, and will download. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Problem
Phillip Jones wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I'm still getting the Adobe window with only a question mark when trying to open pdf files with SM 1.1.18 and Windows 7 64-bit. Has anyone figured out how to fix this? Tom, Have you tried the Adobe test page, it is possible the web site you are looking at has screwed up the .pdf coding for the .pdf file. https://forms.spb.ca.gov/employment/documents/pdfTest.pdf The above test page downloads an Adobe .pdf test page, so it may take a few seconds to fully load. Michael I'm getting the same question mark box with that page too. Go to Preferences Browser application Helpers. IF using a PC go down list click on PDF. Choose AdobePDF Browser Plugin (if installed) or Reader or Acrobat, or whatever pdf viewer you have. Then Try: For Mac Users with similar problems Download and install PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert to your Internet-plug-ins folder works for all browser including, SeaMonkey and Safari. Once installed go to Preferences Browser. Application Helpers and choose the Plugin or choose acrobat or reader If you use Plugin allows for viewing within Browser. Other methods File is downloaded then viewed in Reader, Acrobat or any other viewer set. Some PDFs won't open in browser anyway, and will download. Under Helper apps I have application/pdf, set to open with acrobat reader. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Problem
Tom Pamin wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: Michael Gordon wrote: Tom Pamin wrote: I'm still getting the Adobe window with only a question mark when trying to open pdf files with SM 1.1.18 and Windows 7 64-bit. Has anyone figured out how to fix this? Tom, Have you tried the Adobe test page, it is possible the web site you are looking at has screwed up the .pdf coding for the .pdf file. https://forms.spb.ca.gov/employment/documents/pdfTest.pdf The above test page downloads an Adobe .pdf test page, so it may take a few seconds to fully load. Michael I'm getting the same question mark box with that page too. Go to Preferences Browser application Helpers. IF using a PC go down list click on PDF. Choose AdobePDF Browser Plugin (if installed) or Reader or Acrobat, or whatever pdf viewer you have. Then Try: For Mac Users with similar problems Download and install PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert to your Internet-plug-ins folder works for all browser including, SeaMonkey and Safari. Once installed go to Preferences Browser. Application Helpers and choose the Plugin or choose acrobat or reader If you use Plugin allows for viewing within Browser. Other methods File is downloaded then viewed in Reader, Acrobat or any other viewer set. Some PDFs won't open in browser anyway, and will download. Under Helper apps I have application/pdf, set to open with acrobat reader. was it already set that way or did you just set. Is the PDF your looking at have Private info if not post URL might be the PDF. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Problem
Hi Tom: Under Tools \ Options \ Applications the line ending with (image/jpeg) can be set to use either Acrobat or Acrobat (in Firefox). It may be you need to set that action. -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Problem
Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Tom: Under Tools \ Options \ Applications the line ending with (image/jpeg) can be set to use either Acrobat or Acrobat (in Firefox). It may be you need to set that action. I don't see a Tools\Options - where are you looking? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Problem
Tom Pamin wrote: Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Tom: Under Tools \ Options \ Applications the line ending with (image/jpeg) can be set to use either Acrobat or Acrobat (in Firefox). It may be you need to set that action. I don't see a Tools\Options - where are you looking? may be - under editpreferencesbrowserhelper applications ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
