Re: Anti-Virus Suites Compatibility
On 11/23/2009 7:04 AM On a whim, Samuel S pounded out on the keyboard Hello all, I Am trying to figure out which anti-virus suites work well with SM. I Am currently using AVG, which settings are all geared towards IE and I cannot figure out how to change that. Then it came to mind to find out here, who uses what and a consensus is on the better suite. I was using Kaspersky, which was fine, I wanted to find if something else out there is just as good. TIA Bo1953 Hi Samuel, Avira's Antivir is a good one also. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Anti-Virus Suites Compatibility
On 11/23/2009 6:53 PM On a whim, NO pounded out on the keyboard Samuel S wrote: Hello all, I Am trying to figure out which anti-virus suites work well with SM. I Am currently using AVG, which settings are all geared towards IE and I cannot figure out how to change that. Then it came to mind to find out here, who uses what and a consensus is on the better suite. I was using Kaspersky, which was fine, I wanted to find if something else out there is just as good. TIA Bo1953 Hello All - another quick thought, what about something with a firewall? I think that would somewhat important too. I do not see any of that with the free programs, unless I have missed it. Thanks for all input. Trying Avast next.. Bo1953 The Windows Firewall is more than sufficient, especially if a hardware firewall is used (which EVERYONE should have). Except for those that will comment otherwise. But if you feel the need, Comodo offers a nice free one... Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
On 3/27/2010 10:31 PM On a whim, David E. Ross pounded out on the keyboard On 3/27/10 4:05 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote [in part]: Daniel wrote [also in part]: And Bill if I limit my downloaded messages to only those of 1kByte or less, that still doesn't stop your 1MByte message arriving on my ISP's server for my mail account, so costing me extra because you've exceeded my daily 500kByte mail limit. (Don't worry, Bill, it's not just you, I'm still trying to educate my family members as well!!) Doesn't stop 1MB plain text either. Big data is big data, and if you have people sending you stuff like that you might be well served to go to gmail, and use a reader which lets you choose not to download text of any message over a certain size unless initiated manually. gmail supports IMAP as well as the web interface. If a 1 MB plain-text message were instead composed as an HTML-formatted message, the result would be approximately 4.6 MB. And it would likely have approximately 21,000 HTML syntax errors. It wouldn't have to be that large at all. That is typical HTML-phobe speak. Of course if you're talking about Word HTML composition, then you would be correct, except for the excessive errors you state. I can compose an HTML document (and of course depending on how extreme the formatting is), and the size won't be much more than 10%-20% of it's plain text counterpart. And zero errors. So who do you believe? Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
On 3/28/2010 9:49 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: I can compose an HTML document (and of course depending on how extreme the formatting is), and the size won't be much more than 10%-20% of it's plain text counterpart. And zero errors. You might be able to do that, Terry, (and so could I) but most HTML email clients sure can't. Do you get email from, say, yahoo mail users? A one or two sentence message runs around 13-16KB usually. Here's a small snippet from a four-sentence message I got yesterday via yahoogroups. !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd; html head /head body style=background-color: #fff; span style=display:nonenbsp;/span !--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~-- div id=ygrp-mlmsg style=position:relative; div id=ygrp-msg style=z-index: 1; !--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~-- div id=ygrp-text pHello All,br ... The 302 lines of *styling* were in a secondhead section after all the HTML and content! Oh, and viewing the email in HTML, it is just the four lines in the Georgia font. No other formatting was applied by the sender. I can't speak for Yahoo mail, and I don't know anyone that uses it offhand. But I was responding directly to David's comment of, If a 1 MB plain-text message were instead composed as an HTML-formatted message, the result would be approximately 4.6 MB. And it would likely have approximately 21,000 HTML syntax errors. and I believe he overstated the numbers quite a bit. Maybe if the email was sent as PT HTML using Word, but not just HTML, and not the error count either. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
On 3/28/2010 6:17 PM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Terry R. wrote: I can compose an HTML document (and of course depending on how extreme the formatting is), and the size won't be much more than 10%-20% of it's plain text counterpart. And zero errors. You might be able to do that, Terry, (and so could I) but most HTML email clients sure can't. Do you get email from, say, yahoo mail users? A one or two sentence message runs around 13-16KB usually. Here's a small snippet from a four-sentence message I got yesterday via yahoogroups. [snip code] The 302 lines of *styling* were in a secondhead section after all the HTML and content! Oh, and viewing the email in HTML, it is just the four lines in the Georgia font. No other formatting was applied by the sender. I can't speak for Yahoo mail, and I don't know anyone that uses it offhand. Really? I'd say about 20-25% of the mail I get comes from yahoo. I just searched my AB. One Yahoo user. But I was responding directly to David's comment of, If a 1 MB plain-text message were instead composed as an HTML-formatted message, the result would be approximately 4.6 MB. And it would likely have approximately 21,000 HTML syntax errors. Heh, I'm sure that was a misuse of MB .. where he meant KB (which would be about right, a typical 4 to 1 ratio. The email I cited has 67 words (357 bytes), and from Yahoo needed 13 Kilobytes of HTML. Or he may just have been exaggerating for fun. and I believe he overstated the numbers quite a bit. Maybe if the email was sent as PT HTML using Word, but not just HTML, and not the error count either. Ewww. Word, as the editor for OE, does a *terrible* job of HTML. Couldn't agree more. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM As Default Mail
On 5/16/2010 8:22 AM On a whim, Jay Garcia pounded out on the keyboard Wife running SM 1.1.10 cuz she doesn't need to upgrade. New computer - Windows 7 Every time she opens the mail component a popup alert says SM isn't the default mail app - interesting because Win7 doesn't come with a mail application - and asks if you want it to be default and a check box to not ask again. Boxed IS checked but it still asks every time. What now? An entry in about:config maybe? Thanks Yes, as Jens suggested, right click on the Desktop icon (if that's where it's located) and select, Run as Administrator and see if saving it that way allows it to stick. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT was Re: SM As Default Mail
The date and time was Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:48:35 AM, and on a whim, Daniel pounded out on the keyboard: Jens Hatlak wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: snip P.S.: I'm a bit surprised to see you on the other side of support but I guess it'll happen to all of us eventually. ;-) Got me, too, Jens, in another thread where Jay asked a question for his wife. Jay has been around these groups for so long (Netscape days), I figured if he didn't know exactly how to do something, he would have had private means of getting any answers he needed. But here he is, again. Guess he is human!! Daniel Shows he didn't have the pride that would have prevented other support people from posting. What's better, getting a quick resolve, or beating yourself up because you can't find an answer? Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT was Re: SM As Default Mail
On 5/19/2010 10:32 AM On a whim, Jay Garcia pounded out on the keyboard On 19.05.2010 11:19, Terry R. wrote: --- Original Message --- The date and time was Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:48:35 AM, and on a whim, Daniel pounded out on the keyboard: Jens Hatlak wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: snip P.S.: I'm a bit surprised to see you on the other side of support but I guess it'll happen to all of us eventually. ;-) Got me, too, Jens, in another thread where Jay asked a question for his wife. Jay has been around these groups for so long (Netscape days), I figured if he didn't know exactly how to do something, he would have had private means of getting any answers he needed. But here he is, again. Guess he is human!! Daniel Shows he didn't have the pride that would have prevented other support people from posting. What's better, getting a quick resolve, or beating yourself up because you can't find an answer? Terry R. The only stupid question is the one you don't ask!!! :-) Exactly. What is the issue with people being afraid to ask a question now days? Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Post Size in Bytes
The date and time was Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:37:37 PM, and on a whim, jim pounded out on the keyboard: Margaret Sent me the Attachments re This matter by Email fella's. Mail me if you want them ,as I've saved them. Regards. jim PS The Said ca'nt be sent here, as I've tried Attaching + Inserting them,No go. Hi Jim, How about copying from the attachment and then pasting it into here. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sick windows machine
The date and time was Friday, March 27, 2009 6:21:43 AM, and on a whim, Martin Feitag pounded out on the keyboard: Jay Garcia schrieb: On 27.03.2009 00:51, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: --- Original Message --- Roy Smith wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Mort wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Lester Caine wrote: Just discovered that it does not like microsoft.com either so I can't run windows update :( but you can't use windows update with SM Why not? I have a problem with Windows Update with SM and Vista Home Premium, but my older XP machine updates nicely with SM. Please let me know why one can't use windows update with SM. Thanks. Morton Linder how do you get win update with SM? In all the years I've tried, I've never gotten it to work. So, whats your secret? Does IE Tab work in Seamonkey? I know when I'm using Firefox on my Windows XP partition with IE Tab I can go to Windows Update and have it work. yes, IETab does work but version ie_tab-1.3.3.20070528-fx+mz+sm+fl-win.xpi was the last one. And yes, with IE Tab, then you can use windows update, but you can't use SM to access windows update. Why do you need a browser for WUP, if using XP just right-click on MyComputer, select Properties and then the Automatic Updates tab and make your choice(s). No browser needed or necessary. Cause that only gets security updates for example? WU provides other non-critical updates and even drivers for not-tech-enthusiasts ;-) Drivers should not be retrieved from WU. Had too many clients try that and totally screw up their systems. Always best to use the manufacturers site. And Microsoft Update is better than WU, as it offers the patches for all of their products, whereas WU only offers Windows updates. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Marking Software
The date and time was Friday, March 27, 2009 10:59:29 PM, and on a whim, jim pounded out on the keyboard: To enable Comments-Arrows etc ,to be Applied to an image.See Screen shots Site. jim Hi Jim, In Windows, you know that pressing PrtScn captures the entire display window, and Shift-PrtScn captures the active window only. Then you open the graphics program of choice. Depending on the graphices software, you can press Ctrl-V to paste the capture into a window (using Windows Paint in this example). From there you can click on the Text button and add text to the image. Change the color of the text prior to typing by clicking on the desired color in the color palette at the bottom of the screen. Then click on the Line button to draw a line. Paint doesn't have arrows at the end of a line option, but many programs do. Then you can use the Select to crop the image down if you want by selecting the area, pressing Ctrl-C to copy, press Ctrl-N for a new window, then press Ctrl-V to paste the cropped image. Save the file as a jpg, gif, or png, NOT bmp or tiff (unless you want a very large file size). Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hostperm.1 and permissions.sqlite
The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 3:05:59 PM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: SM 1.1.15 Is anyone else having a similar problem: you have something opened, like SM Mail. You click on compose, and you have to wait and wait and wait. The task manager says the program is not responding. After a minute, then the compose window opens and everything is back to normal, until you open something else. You could open the browser, or bookmark manager, or whatever, and you just wait. I've tracked mine down to hostperm.1. If I close the program and remove it, then reopen and things work great again. I've noticed the same problem with FF3. When I click to open it, it would take a few minutes. I could click on it again and a window would open. I would close that, and the original click would finally open. I removed permissions.sqlite and things would be back to normal. So, anyone else having any similar problems? I haven't noticed any issues with hostperm.1. I have found that the constant sqlite updating of so many files in FF causes a lot more issues than it's worth IMO. I don't think most users need the repeated updating of the 6 files. On one network I admin, all laptop users stopped using FF3 because the backup software wasn't configurable enough to exclude all the sqlite files, and the backup was constantly writing to the server and bogging down the performance. So it was a double whammy, constant sqlite updating and constant backing up. On another network, I was able to set up a FF profile in the backup software and exclude the sqlite files from updating constantly during the day, but have them backup once on shutdown. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 2:25:55 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 30, 5:12 pm, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo peter.potamus.the.purple.hi...@gmail.com wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Sorry - i'm viewing on the web where all prior messages show up, I was trying to be space efficient. not everyone is viewing this group on google groups. Some of us are using the mozilla newsgroup and others are using the mailing lists Yeah - I got that now If you choose to send in HTML then it wont be converted, it will be sent as html. This is a false statement. again, others have asked that you email them an html message and then we'll go from there, and so far you have failed to do that. I'm happy to send a message to anyone. just supply the email True statement: If you choose to send in HTML, and there is nothing in your message that warrants HTML, SM will convertto plaintextand send plaintext. maybe it is and maybe its not Actually, it is. There doesn't seem to be any dispute about this statement in this thread (until now). The debate is whether this is the single, correct behavior. This is a well-established fact. I am asking that the auto-conversion be optional, so that your original statement becomes the truth. we've heard you many times. Stop harping about it and file a bug:https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/and request for such an item Did so long ago -- We did some testing on this some time back and found that Moz clients require at least one HTML element to send as HTML (10-07-08 in MTMM). It can be done by creating a Template to use for your email and then insert a simple HTML code in body using the HTML Editor (Insert, HTML for TB). Or configure your sig file as HTML. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Marking Software
The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 6:15:58 PM, and on a whim, jim pounded out on the keyboard: Thanks Heaps for your Detailed reply Terry. Regards. jim You're welcome Jim. If you have any other questions, don't be afraid to ask. You might want to do it in mozilla.general if it isn't specific to the support groups. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox.msf
The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:42:11 AM, and on a whim, Bill Spikowski pounded out on the keyboard: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: My Inbox.msf file is about 3KB but my Inbox file is over 1 GB. I keep NO messages in the inbox; whatever comes in gets filtered to other folders. What's in the 1GB file? I have a similar situation with the Drafts file -- over 1 GB, but there's nothing in it the *.msf files are just index files. They tell the program which way messages are sorted, which ones are flagged, labelled, etc. The files which the extension such as inbox, drafts, etc, are the ones that contain your messages. You can open those files using any text editor. But if its that large, then it might take a long time opening. I forgot to add: when you delete messages, the message is deleted from the folder, but it still remains in the file. This is incase you want the messages back, there is a way to retrieve them. However, once in a while, you need to clean up your files, and get rid of those left over messages, and the way to do that is to compact your folders [under File]. Thanks everyone -- apparently at some recent time I must have unchecked the compact automatically box -- I had always let compacting happen automatically so I never had a big buildup of wasted space before! That was exactly the problem. You're welcome Bill. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
The date and time was Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:03:07 PM, and on a whim, googl...@kwcpa.com pounded out on the keyboard: On Mar 31, 4:54 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: On Mar 30, 6:58 pm, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: googl...@kwcpa.com wrote: Ok - here's an example of the problem, based on a short message I composed in HTML. In HTML, there was a blank line before the line that starts Me. When I go into the sent folder and do a view - message source, the blank line is there (although the message has been converted totext). However, when I just look at either the received message (i sent it to myself, among others), or the copy in my sent folder, the blank line is MISSING. Pull a few blank lines in a row from a long message and it becomes very hard to read. OUTPUT OF VIEW - MESSAGE SOURCE From - Mon Mar 30 13:44:36 2009 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080 X-Mozilla- Keys: Message-ID: [omitted] Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:44:35 -0400 From: [omitted] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv: 1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 SeaMonkey/1.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To:[omitted] Subject: This Week... Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away this week) If you're on the list above and aren't IN, please let me know ASAP. Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. /j WHAT I SEE IN MY SENT FOLDER OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away this week) If you're on the list above and aren't IN, please let me know ASAP. Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. /j Thanks for furnishing us an pseudo-working example. I do your test. It seems that only you have a problem ... My RESULT IS CORRECT: Have a look Subject: TEST CONVERSION Content-Type:text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=2 X-UIDL: (%l!!\pP!!i!!joZ! OK - Wed is the first of 3 more prepaid weeks. I -believe- the following people are playing Wednesday: Me, Kathy, Art, Lisa, Jon, Peter, John, Beth, Kevin(Ed is away this week) If you're on the list above and aren't IN, please let me know ASAP. Otherwise, we'll assume a quorum. You gottext, not HTML /j You always speak about a conversion ...there is no conversion needed. In the case you furnishedThe inputtextin plaintext, so the mail is also plaintext. All is NORMAL. You said also the blank line is MISSING. ...i used your inputtextas test, and i did not have any blank line missing as you show us. So YOUR pc have a problem not mine. SM is WORKING PERFECTLY. If you want to sent a mail in HTML format, please furnish him an HTMLtext. AnyWay, you NEVER cannot force the recipient to read it in HTML format. I can't furnish in HTML, SM always converts it to plain text. and I never said I wanted to force anyone to do anything (except for certain readers to read the whole thread and take a request seriously) 8-} Like I mentioned, if you insert a sig that has just one HTML element, say a specific color or something of that sort, then it would be sent in HTML. Or use the Insert HTML and insert a horizontal line at the top or bottom (i.e. hr ). That will force it to be sent in HTML. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Request for Seamonkey 2.0
The date and time was Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:21:36 AM, and on a whim, Ray_Net pounded out on the keyboard: I can see how it is confusing, although I agree with the method. Most of us write a message and send it off. I compose in HTML and I have a serif font as my default. I have my settings set to send in HTML to specific people in my AB, and because my sig file is an HTML file, it's sent that way. But if I don't have any specific HTML elements and I am composing in HTML mode, TB is taking the privilege to send the message as it sees fit, since there aren't any HTML elements included. I would agree that if the user has the settings to compose in HTML, it should be sent in HTML, EVEN if there is only a font setting as the default. Terry R. How can i (as you said) compose in HTML if there is NOTHING in HTML ? If there is nothing in HTML, SM have the right to send it in plain text because it's a plain-text text. Simple. You have two ways to compose messages, in Plain Text or HTML. Read what I said about the rest. And I disagree. A client doesn't have the RIGHT to send it plain text when the user is in the HTML mode composing a message. If they wanted to send in PT, they would COMPOSE in PT. If you want that we try your problem ...tell us step by step how to get your the blank line is MISSING. symptom. It's not my problem. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hostperm.1 and permissions.sqlite
The date and time was Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:48:20 PM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Monday, March 30, 2009 3:05:59 PM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: SM 1.1.15 Is anyone else having a similar problem: you have something opened, like SM Mail. You click on compose, and you have to wait and wait and wait. The task manager says the program is not responding. After a minute, then the compose window opens and everything is back to normal, until you open something else. You could open the browser, or bookmark manager, or whatever, and you just wait. I've tracked mine down to hostperm.1. If I close the program and remove it, then reopen and things work great again. I've noticed the same problem with FF3. When I click to open it, it would take a few minutes. I could click on it again and a window would open. I would close that, and the original click would finally open. I removed permissions.sqlite and things would be back to normal. So, anyone else having any similar problems? I haven't noticed any issues with hostperm.1. I have found that the constant sqlite updating of so many files in FF causes a lot more issues than it's worth IMO. I don't think most users need the repeated updating of the 6 files. On one network I admin, all laptop users stopped using FF3 because the backup software wasn't configurable enough to exclude all the sqlite files, and the backup was constantly writing to the server and bogging down the performance. So it was a double whammy, constant sqlite updating and constant backing up. On another network, I was able to set up a FF profile in the backup software and exclude the sqlite files from updating constantly during the day, but have them backup once on shutdown. Terry R. so, from what you said, sqlite is the craps. I hated it when FF took about 5 to 10 minutes to delete my SM bookmarks. Yep. I was told when I filed a bug that sqlite is much more reliable, and the bug was filed as WON'T FIX. It was reliable for me the old way, because I know how to protect valuable data. I don't need a program writing to disk all freakin day to keep my cookie info updated, nor my history or bookmarks. What a waste of CPU cycles. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6
The date and time was Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:10:07 PM, and on a whim, NoOp pounded out on the keyboard: I normally do not run windows, and run linux instead. However I've been running WinXPPro (SP3) on a second machine to assist someone troubleshooting a SeaMonkey issue. I've run into an issue with upgrading from SM 1.1.14 to 1.1.15 and now 1.1.16 whereby I receive WinXP startup errors due to SM replacing the MAPI32.DLL in the Windows System32 directory upon each upgrade. To add insult to injury... 1.1.15 1.1.16 required reboots. If I leave the SM mapi32.dll installed, I received the following error on startup: WindowsSearch.exe - Ordinal Not Found The ordinal 49 could not be located in the synamic link library MAPI32.dll. If I move the SM mapi32.dll (Mozilla version 0.8.0.0) out of the way and replace it with the original MS version (4.0.835.1374), I no longer receive the error SM seems to continue to work just fine. Note: I have to keep copy of the MS version in a temp/backup folder as SM keeps overwriting the original - whats up with that? The Microsoft WindowsSearch.exe is version 7.0.6001.16503. I seem to recall some discussion regarding Mozilla interference with mapi32.dll files in the past, but I've been on linux for a few years now and had thought that any issues like this had been sorted out. Is anyone else experiencing mapi32.dll issues? Crossposted to: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey Followup-To: mozilla.support.seamonkey set Windows Search most recent version is 4. http://www.file.net/process/windowssearch.exe.html I would suggest a malware scan using Malwarebytes and Spybot: http://www.malwarebytes.org/ http://www.safer-networking.org/index2.html I have SP3 and my mapi32.dll version is 1.0.2536.0. The last time I had that issue was 1998, as I realized I have a backup file of the moz mapi file in the system32 folder. If you copy the SM mapi32.dll file to the SM program folder, does it work? Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6
The date and time was Friday, April 10, 2009 8:45:09 AM, and on a whim, NoOp pounded out on the keyboard: On 04/10/2009 07:59 AM, Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:10:07 PM, and on a whim, NoOp pounded out on the keyboard: I normally do not run windows, and run linux instead. However I've been running WinXPPro (SP3) on a second machine to assist someone troubleshooting a SeaMonkey issue. I've run into an issue with upgrading from SM 1.1.14 to 1.1.15 and now 1.1.16 whereby I receive WinXP startup errors due to SM replacing the MAPI32.DLL in the Windows System32 directory upon each upgrade. To add insult to injury... 1.1.15 1.1.16 required reboots. If I leave the SM mapi32.dll installed, I received the following error on startup: WindowsSearch.exe - Ordinal Not Found The ordinal 49 could not be located in the synamic link library MAPI32.dll. If I move the SM mapi32.dll (Mozilla version 0.8.0.0) out of the way and replace it with the original MS version (4.0.835.1374), I no longer receive the error SM seems to continue to work just fine. Note: I have to keep copy of the MS version in a temp/backup folder as SM keeps overwriting the original - whats up with that? The Microsoft WindowsSearch.exe is version 7.0.6001.16503. I seem to recall some discussion regarding Mozilla interference with mapi32.dll files in the past, but I've been on linux for a few years now and had thought that any issues like this had been sorted out. Is anyone else experiencing mapi32.dll issues? Crossposted to: mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey Followup-To: mozilla.support.seamonkey set Windows Search most recent version is 4. http://www.file.net/process/windowssearch.exe.html Yeah, it's 4.0 the file is valid: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/choose/windowssearch4.mspx?tab=Install It I was refering to the actual windowssearch.exe file version. I would suggest a malware scan using Malwarebytes and Spybot: http://www.malwarebytes.org/ http://www.safer-networking.org/index2.html I have SP3 and my mapi32.dll version is 1.0.2536.0. The last time I had that issue was 1998, as I realized I have a backup file of the moz mapi file in the system32 folder. If you copy the SM mapi32.dll file to the SM program folder, does it work? Terry R. Thanks for the suggestions... however the only malware in this case is SM replacing mapi32.dll in C:\windows\system32. It's quite simple to reproduce: 1. Put original mapi32.dll in system32 2. Reinstall SM 1.1.1x and watch SM replace the existing mapi32.dll with it's own, and rename the previous mapi32.dll to mapi32_Mozilla.dll. I remember the old NS doing the same. I wonder why SM still does that and yet FF/TB doesn't. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6
The date and time was Friday, April 10, 2009 1:36:10 PM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Friday, April 10, 2009 8:45:09 AM, and on a whim, NoOp pounded out on the keyboard: Thanks for the suggestions... however the only malware in this case is SM replacing mapi32.dll in C:\windows\system32. It's quite simple to reproduce: 1. Put original mapi32.dll in system32 2. Reinstall SM 1.1.1x and watch SM replace the existing mapi32.dll with it's own, and rename the previous mapi32.dll to mapi32_Mozilla.dll. I remember the old NS doing the same. I wonder why SM still does that and yet FF/TB doesn't. sorry to say, but mine didn't do that Your NS? Or SM? It was a big issue with NS. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6
The date and time was Friday, April 10, 2009 1:34:28 PM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: Terry R. wrote: I have SP3 and my mapi32.dll version is 1.0.2536.0. The last time I had that issue was 1998, as I realized I have a backup file of the moz mapi file in the system32 folder. the version in the windowsXP system folder is 1.0.2536.0, but the one in the SM or TB program directory is 0.8.0.0 Not really related since the one in those folders is mozmapi32.dll. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6
The date and time was Friday, April 10, 2009 4:54:27 PM, and on a whim, NoOp pounded out on the keyboard: On 04/10/2009 04:23 PM, Terry R. wrote: Actually it would be better for you to uninstall WS. I don't allow that search crap on any workstations I manage. Nothing but a performance hit. Terry R. I agree in general - I use linux. However, that doesn't negate the fact that the SM mapi32.dll causes issues with quite new recent MS applications. I'd much prefer to find a fix so that SM doesn't interfere with other applications. Further, if you read the bug provided by Philip, there are other, more critical applications that this affects (Groupwise Outlook for example). I think it better to spend some time resolving the issue rather than having new users experience issues with applications that they chose to install on their systems. From what I know using TB, this isn't an issue any longer. It was when I used NS, and I don't have SM installed. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Windows] MAPI32.DLL issue w/SM 1.1.15/6
The date and time was Friday, April 10, 2009 10:53:35 PM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Friday, April 10, 2009 10:21:54 PM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Friday, April 10, 2009 1:34:28 PM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: Terry R. wrote: I have SP3 and my mapi32.dll version is 1.0.2536.0. The last time I had that issue was 1998, as I realized I have a backup file of the moz mapi file in the system32 folder. the version in the windowsXP system folder is 1.0.2536.0, but the one in the SM or TB program directory is 0.8.0.0 Not really related since the one in those folders is mozmapi32.dll. Terry R. we weren't talking about mozmapi32.dll, now were we!? :-) The version number you quoted was the windows version of mapi32.dll. And that's why I responded to you. You said, the version in the windowsXP system folder is 1.0.2536.0, but the one in the SM or TB program directory is 0.8.0.0 They are two completely different files. Terry R. you're talking about 3 different files: -- windows mapi32.dll which is version 1.0.2536.0 -- SeaMonkey's and Thunderbirds mapi32.dll which is version 0.8.0.0 -- SeaMonkey's and Thunderbird's mozmapi32.dll which is also version 0.8.0.0 You were talking about the first 2, then later added the third. I never brought up the 2nd one. I mentioned I had the issue with NS, but that was when the mapi32.dll file was copied to the system32 folder. The OP was talking about the 2nd one, which you state isn't the case with SM? I only talked about 1 3, which are different. I don't believe TB ever placed a mapi32.dll in the system32 folder, did it? The mozmapi32.dll in the program folder was always used. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default e-mail client contest.
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard: Seamonkey 1.1.16 Win XP Pro SP3 WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1. For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how will that affect Seamonkey? Which version of X4 do you have? Standard includes WP Mail, so why would it want MSO 2007 as the default? Are you sure you're not confusing the AB? Try looking under Tools, Settings, Environment, In the Address Book window, choose WordPerfect Address Book. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default e-mail client contest.
The date and time was Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:50:03 AM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: HeavyDuty wrote: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard: Seamonkey 1.1.16 Win XP Pro SP3 WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1. For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how will that affect Seamonkey? Which version of X4 do you have? Standard includes WP Mail, so why would it want MSO 2007 as the default? Are you sure you're not confusing the AB? Try looking under Tools, Settings, Environment, In the Address Book window, choose WordPerfect Address Book. Terry R. Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea. Setting in WP is the default address book: WordPerfect Address Book. I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG. I don't know about your version of WP, but in mine [WP10 and 6.1] the default is whatever windows told it: Click on the windows start button, then settings, then control panel, then the Internet Options icon, and under Programs tab, under Email, select SM Mail. Make sure you do this with SM and WP closed. Did that work? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that changed in v11, with Windows AB being the default. The WP AB isn't reliable, as Ive had it fail often enough that if I add anything to it, I immediately export it, same as I do with the TB AB. That's probably why Corel started defaulting to the WAB. The WP groups are full of what happened to my address book type stuff, and no one even replies anymore. As long as I back it up after modifying it, it doesn't bother me if/when it fails. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default e-mail client contest.
The date and time was Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:24:46 AM, and on a whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:50:03 AM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: HeavyDuty wrote: Terry R. wrote: The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard: Seamonkey 1.1.16 Win XP Pro SP3 WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1. For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how will that affect Seamonkey? Which version of X4 do you have? Standard includes WP Mail, so why would it want MSO 2007 as the default? Are you sure you're not confusing the AB? Try looking under Tools, Settings, Environment, In the Address Book window, choose WordPerfect Address Book. Terry R. Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea. Setting in WP is the default address book: WordPerfect Address Book. I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG. I don't know about your version of WP, but in mine [WP10 and 6.1] the default is whatever windows told it: Click on the windows start button, then settings, then control panel, then the Internet Options icon, and under Programs tab, under Email, select SM Mail. Make sure you do this with SM and WP closed. Did that work? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that changed in v11, with Windows AB being the default. The WP AB isn't reliable, as Ive had it fail often enough that if I add anything to it, I immediately export it, same as I do with the TB AB. That's probably why Corel started defaulting to the WAB. The WP groups are full of what happened to my address book type stuff, and no one even replies anymore. As long as I back it up after modifying it, it doesn't bother me if/when it fails. Terry R. I do not use WP AB, so I've never had that problem. AFA the WP NGs, they are certainly less active than they used to be, fortunately some of the old times still are present, even though one of them, Charles Rossiter, has started his own WP support site http://www.wpuniverse.com/. I subscribe to those groups, and you're right, there isn't a lot of activity. That's because WP users don't have any problems! ;-) WP Universe has been around for quite a while. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: multiple bookmark files
The date and time was Friday, April 17, 2009 9:26:04 AM, and on a whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Doug Boufford wrote: Using SM 1.1.16 I note in my profile that there are multiple bookmark.html files bookmark.html.bookmark-375.html and cookie files. Can the surplus ones be deleted, leaving only the bookmark.html file?? it seems you've got that horrible multiple glitch there. I can't remember what bug number that is. Sorry. But, for the cookies and bookmarks, yes, go ahead and remove them. If after a day or two, nothing happens, then yes go ahead and delete them. oh yeah, make sure that your main bookmark and cookie files aren't marked as read only I would also add to check the dates on the files. Your original bookmark.html file may be quite a bit older than one of the others. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ffd show
The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 8:39:01 AM, and on a whim, Melissa pounded out on the keyboard: Oh, and I get the same result in FF - blank tab. Melissa wrote: Seamonkey always asked me how to handle ffdshow video. I would always answer use ffdshow once. This morning, when I click on a video, I get a new tab with nothing in it! The only thing that's changed is I changed my AV to Avast. I've shut down all the services and still no joy. How do I restore Seamonkey's ability to show me videos in ffdshow? Hi Melissa, Did you try reinstalling ffdshow? Does a System Restore or a restore of a backup prior to changing AV fix it? Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: configuration for googlemail
On 9/10/2010 12:59 PM On a whim, Klaus Weber pounded out on the keyboard Hello, since recently I cannot receive mails from my Google account. My configuration: Account name: n...@googlemail.com email address: n...@googlemail.com Pop mail server: pop.googlemail.com port: 995 user name: n...@googlemail.com connection safety: SSL/TLS Moreover I cannot sent mails anymore from any of my accounts What may be wrong? Regards Klaus Weber Hi Klaus, Why use POP when Gmail supports IMAP? Here is how to configure it for IMAP: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=78799 You can set it to store offline also if desired. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: configuration for googlemail
On 9/10/2010 12:59 PM On a whim, Klaus Weber pounded out on the keyboard Hello, since recently I cannot receive mails from my Google account. My configuration: Account name: n...@googlemail.com email address: n...@googlemail.com Pop mail server: pop.googlemail.com port: 995 user name: n...@googlemail.com connection safety: SSL/TLS Moreover I cannot sent mails anymore from any of my accounts What may be wrong? Regards Klaus Weber But in case you want to stick with POP: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=13287 Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Why doesn't this text print?
On 9/21/2010 8:36 AM On a whim, d...@kd4e.com pounded out on the keyboard Why doesn't the main text on this page print? http://library.thinkquest.org/11572/cc/ Printed fine w/FF 3.6.9 here. Didn't with Chrome, but I selected all the text and then printed. Worked fine. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Why doesn't this text print?
On 9/21/2010 11:17 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard stango wrote: I do not have a problem viewing this page using SM 1.1.19 if I spoof FF 3.6.3. Viewing isn't the problem. It's printing. Try a Print Preview. Printed fine in FF at least. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Why doesn't this text print?
On 9/21/2010 12:52 PM On a whim, Jay Garcia pounded out on the keyboard On 21.09.2010 14:02, Terry R. wrote: --- Original Message --- On 9/21/2010 11:17 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard stango wrote: I do not have a problem viewing this page using SM 1.1.19 if I spoof FF 3.6.3. Viewing isn't the problem. It's printing. Try a Print Preview. Printed fine in FF at least. Terry R. Doesn't here in FF 3.6.10 You useing some sorta extension? Won't even print using IE-Tab No extension. Dunno... Like I mentioned, I did have to select the text in Chrome to get it to print properly, but nothing in FF. Strange since FF usually screws up big time when printing tables. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Why doesn't this text print?
On 9/21/2010 12:54 PM On a whim, Jay Garcia pounded out on the keyboard On 21.09.2010 14:01, Terry R. wrote: --- Original Message --- On 9/21/2010 8:36 AM On a whim, d...@kd4e.com pounded out on the keyboard Why doesn't the main text on this page print? http://library.thinkquest.org/11572/cc/ Printed fine w/FF 3.6.9 here. Didn't with Chrome, but I selected all the text and then printed. Worked fine. Terry R. I thought I could print using print selection but that didn't work either using my laser OR inkjet. The Print Selection box on both printer was grayed out. In Chrome, even when I selected the text the selector was on All. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
On 9/23/2010 4:31 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that, without DreamWeaver, Phillip would not even be able to *have* a web site online. Geez. Do you feel good about yourself now BS Nasty? At least he put forth an effort and created something for his family, regardless of what he used to do it. That's more than millions of other people have done. Now go and blast every site designer that used FP to code sites instead, and leave Phillip be. follow-up set to mozilla.general Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available
On 9/23/2010 9:14 AM On a whim, Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty pounded out on the keyboard It's very obvious Phillip knows not of what he speaks, and he should stop spreading FUD. I know that, without DreamWeaver, Phillip would not even be able to *have* a web site online. Geez. Do you feel good about yourself now BS Nasty? As long as Phillip spreads FUD, yes I do. The comment was regarding him being able to have a web site online. At least he put forth an effort and created something for his family, regardless of what he used to do it. That's more than millions of other people have done. The site he was discussing was not his regularly posted 'family' site, but was for some sort of association - with members' data at risk to public exposure. Would you think it is a good idea to let him go on and expose their information to the public, when that was not what was requested of him? Again, the comment was regarding being able to have a web site online, which is for his family's purposes. You're twisting the two together. Now go and blast every site designer that used FP to code sites instead, FrontPage? Doesn't matter what the tool is, if the site is not doing what it is supposed to be doing. You blasted him for using Dreamweaver. That's the point. Thousands use FP and produce crappy websites. Phillip used what tool he could not knowing how to code by hand. and leave Phillip be. What are your thoughts on allowing him to spread false information? Wow, that's the first time that's happened in these groups... Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Trash restore
On 9/28/2010 10:08 AM On a whim, Beverly Howard pounded out on the keyboard When an email is moved from the inbox to the trash file, the message still exists in the inbox Thanks for the clarification and posting the manual recovery option for messages still in the inbox for the op to pursue. However, I think/thought the op was asking why the trash was empty when he had taken no action to empty it. It would be nice, but, as far as I know there is no way to toggle the deleted messages on and off. It is possible to recover deleted messages sequentially within SM by usingctrl-z but don't know how far/long that works... i.e. if it's possible after closing SM and returning. It is possible to return to a folder and do so after going elsewhere in the same session. Beverly Howard Hi Beverly, I think as in Thunderbird, ctrl-z only has one level of undo, unlike word processors that have many, so only the last change is undone. Of course if one uses Shift-delete on an email, that doesn't work at all. Once you close a program, the Undo memory is cleared. If you perform other actions in the same session, using Ctrl-z would undo a prior action performed, not recovering the deleted email done many actions down the road. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Play Video
On 9/28/2010 12:10 PM On a whim, d...@kd4e.com pounded out on the keyboard Phillip Jones wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Larry wrote: The Web site is: http://www.therightscoop.com/daniel-hannan-has-warning-for-america The video just appears as a black rectangle. Am I missing a specialized player of some sort? Have I stopped it with some setting? I've run out of ideas. Larry The video is not on that domain, it's on Fox News. You probably have your preferences for Flash set to disallow videos from third-party URLs. http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager04.html Plays fine. Subject not the greatest. Where are these settings found in SM 2.0.8? I cannot find them. Right click on the video: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: recreate address book from sent folder?
On 10/12/2010 1:40 PM On a whim, Nelson Bolyard pounded out on the keyboard I'm asking this question in both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird support groups because I figure the answer is likely the same for either product. My aged aunt lost her address book file in her Mac SeaMonkey profile. But her sent folder is intact, with all the emails she's sent in the last decade. Is there any way to populate a new fresh address book using the To and CC addresses in the emails in her sent folder? I could extract all the To and CC addresses from the folder (with grep). If I did that, and had a plain text file of email addresses, would there be a way to repopulate her address book from that file of email addresses? Hi Nelson, Here is a link that might help recover the profile of the AB that was lost: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Talk:Recovering_a_missing_profile A similar question was asked recently regarding exporting addresses in email. Here is my answer to them: As far as I know, the only way would be to open the email and press Ctrl-U to view the source, then copy the email addresses that way. You can export your current address book as a CSV and open it to view how it's laid out. Excel will place each field in a column, but a plain text editor will use commas for each field. You can use whichever you're more comfortable with and then import the file into your AB when done. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Shortcuts Suddenly Appeared
On 11/14/2010 4:39 PM On a whim, David E. Ross pounded out on the keyboard This afternoon, I suddenly found shortcuts to launch SeaMonkey and Thunderbird on both my desktop and the Windows XP quick launch area of my task bar. Neither program has been updated since 28 October, when I did partial .mar updates from SeaMonkey 2.0.9 to 2.0.10 and from Thunderbird 3.1.5 to 3.1.6. What is going on here? Hi David, What are the Created and Modified dates in Properties General tab? Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to make copy of my draft in the same draft folder?
On 2/7/2011 8:34 AM On a whim, Ed Mullen pounded out on the keyboard Ant wrote: On 2/6/2011 11:18 AM PT, Rick Merrill typed: Sometimes I send multiple same e-mails. Is there an easier and quicker way to make a copy of my draft IN the same draft folder? The only ways I could duplicate my e-mail is copy to another folder, or copy and paste its contents manually. Thank you in advance. :) You CAN re-send it (fwd) from the SENT folder, you know. I know, but I have to re-edit it, change To, BCC, etc. Pain in the butt and tedious. Umm, right-click the message and choose Edit as new? That overwrites the original. Template is the way to do it. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to make copy of my draft in the same draft folder?
On 2/7/2011 9:16 AM On a whim, Paul B. Gallagher pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 8:34 AM On a whim, Ed Mullen pounded out on the keyboard Ant wrote: On 2/6/2011 11:18 AM PT, Rick Merrill typed: Sometimes I send multiple same e-mails. Is there an easier and quicker way to make a copy of my draft IN the same draft folder? The only ways I could duplicate my e-mail is copy to another folder, or copy and paste its contents manually. Thank you in advance. :) You CAN re-send it (fwd) from the SENT folder, you know. I know, but I have to re-edit it, change To, BCC, etc. Pain in the butt and tedious. Umm, right-click the message and choose Edit as new? That overwrites the original. Template is the way to do it. No it doesn't. But template is the way if you're doing more than one or two knock-offs. No it doesn't what? When I click on Edit as new, it overwrites the email I selected, or sends that message, so no copy is left. And yes, Template IS how it should be done. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to make copy of my draft in the same draft folder?
On 2/7/2011 1:02 PM On a whim, Ray_Net pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 9:16 AM On a whim, Paul B. Gallagher pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 8:34 AM On a whim, Ed Mullen pounded out on the keyboard Ant wrote: On 2/6/2011 11:18 AM PT, Rick Merrill typed: Sometimes I send multiple same e-mails. Is there an easier and quicker way to make a copy of my draft IN the same draft folder? The only ways I could duplicate my e-mail is copy to another folder, or copy and paste its contents manually. Thank you in advance. :) You CAN re-send it (fwd) from the SENT folder, you know. I know, but I have to re-edit it, change To, BCC, etc. Pain in the butt and tedious. Umm, right-click the message and choose Edit as new? That overwrites the original. Template is the way to do it. No it doesn't. But template is the way if you're doing more than one or two knock-offs. No it doesn't what? When I click on Edit as new, it overwrites the email I selected, or sends that message, so no copy is left. And yes, Template IS how it should be done. When i select a mail in the Sent folder and do Ctrl-E (Edit message as New) this mail is *not* overwritted ... ... i just have on screen a identical copy of it, and then when i send it, i have *two* nearly same messages in my Sent folder. The OP was talking about a copy in the Draft folder, not the Sent. So was I. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to make copy of my draft in the same draft folder?
On 2/8/2011 4:54 AM On a whim, Paul B. Gallagher pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 1:02 PM On a whim, Ray_Net pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 9:16 AM On a whim, Paul B. Gallagher pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 8:34 AM On a whim, Ed Mullen pounded out on the keyboard Ant wrote: On 2/6/2011 11:18 AM PT, Rick Merrill typed: Sometimes I send multiple same e-mails. Is there an easier and quicker way to make a copy of my draft IN the same draft folder? The only ways I could duplicate my e-mail is copy to another folder, or copy and paste its contents manually. Thank you in advance. :) You CAN re-send it (fwd) from the SENT folder, you know. I know, but I have to re-edit it, change To, BCC, etc. Pain in the butt and tedious. Umm, right-click the message and choose Edit as new? That overwrites the original. Template is the way to do it. No it doesn't. But template is the way if you're doing more than one or two knock-offs. No it doesn't what? When I click on Edit as new, it overwrites the email I selected, or sends that message, so no copy is left. And yes, Template IS how it should be done. When i select a mail in the Sent folder and do Ctrl-E (Edit message as New) this mail is *not* overwritted ... ... i just have on screen a identical copy of it, and then when i send it, i have *two* nearly same messages in my Sent folder. The OP was talking about a copy in the Draft folder, not the Sent. So was I. Strange, you were replying to a post that said You CAN re-send it (fwd) from the SENT folder, you know. I've purposely not pruned so you can see. Actually, I did not reply to that post. I replied to Ed who only stated: Umm, right-click the message and choose Edit as new? I read your post that stated the Draft folder and then his (at the end of the thread). I know that editing an already sent email will not overwrite it. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to make copy of my draft in the same draft folder?
On 2/8/2011 12:20 PM On a whim, Ed Mullen pounded out on the keyboard Ed Mullen wrote: Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 1:02 PM On a whim, Ray_Net pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 9:16 AM On a whim, Paul B. Gallagher pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 8:34 AM On a whim, Ed Mullen pounded out on the keyboard Ant wrote: On 2/6/2011 11:18 AM PT, Rick Merrill typed: Sometimes I send multiple same e-mails. Is there an easier and quicker way to make a copy of my draft IN the same draft folder? The only ways I could duplicate my e-mail is copy to another folder, or copy and paste its contents manually. Thank you in advance. :) You CAN re-send it (fwd) from the SENT folder, you know. I know, but I have to re-edit it, change To, BCC, etc. Pain in the butt and tedious. Umm, right-click the message and choose Edit as new? That overwrites the original. Template is the way to do it. No it doesn't. But template is the way if you're doing more than one or two knock-offs. No it doesn't what? When I click on Edit as new, it overwrites the email I selected, or sends that message, so no copy is left. And yes, Template IS how it should be done. When i select a mail in the Sent folder and do Ctrl-E (Edit message as New) this mail is *not* overwritted ... ... i just have on screen a identical copy of it, and then when i send it, i have *two* nearly same messages in my Sent folder. The OP was talking about a copy in the Draft folder, not the Sent. So was I. Doesn't matter. Use the Draft folder, the Templates folder or any folder. They all work the same: You'll have 2 emails with the same subject line. Only difference would be addressees. Okay, that's weird. I tested before posting the above. Just tried it again in the Drafts folder. Indeed, the file is over-written. Strange. I think it was probably some lag in my IMAP folders updating. All other folders I tested do wind up with copies. Correct. That's because it's only a draft and drafts can be modified, as I stated. The other email already sent/received in other folders can only be edited in TB with an add-on, or directly editing the mbox file. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to make copy of my draft in the same draft folder?
On 2/8/2011 12:08 PM On a whim, Ed Mullen pounded out on the keyboard Terry R. wrote: On 2/7/2011 8:34 AM On a whim, Ed Mullen pounded out on the keyboard Ant wrote: On 2/6/2011 11:18 AM PT, Rick Merrill typed: Sometimes I send multiple same e-mails. Is there an easier and quicker way to make a copy of my draft IN the same draft folder? The only ways I could duplicate my e-mail is copy to another folder, or copy and paste its contents manually. Thank you in advance. :) You CAN re-send it (fwd) from the SENT folder, you know. I know, but I have to re-edit it, change To, BCC, etc. Pain in the butt and tedious. Umm, right-click the message and choose Edit as new? That overwrites the original. Template is the way to do it. It does not over-write on my SeaMonkey (2.1b1). I send emails to a large number of people sometimes. I create the email and put perhaps 20 addresses in it. I send it. I then go to the Sent folder and right-click the saved email and choose Edit as new, remove the previous addresses and add new ones. Send the email. Nothing gets over-written. I now have two emails in the Sent folder with the same subject line. You could use the Draft folder as well; it doesn't matter. And for the sake of others not following all this, that is incorrect. Using a draft will overwrite the draft, not make a copy. A template is the best way to accomplish this. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Download Executables
On 2/11/2011 10:24 AM On a whim, Michael Gordon pounded out on the keyboard David E. Ross wrote: I've been trying to download the installer file for Flash Player 10.2.152.26. I get the File Save selection window to indicate where to place the file. Then I get a progress popup that says the download was cancelled. I select the small retry button (the button with the circular arrow). I see that something appears to download, but when I go to the destination folder, the file has 0 size. I've tried this with other installer executables. I get the same result with them. I've also tried using Save Link Target As (which is not available for Flash Player) and get the same result. I've tried this with non-executable files, and have no problems with them. It appears that SeaMonkey or the Download Manager is blocking files with the .exe file-extension. Trying all this while running SeaMonkey in safe mode does not help. Is this a known bug? Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101123 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 David, it looks to me like an Anti-virus/Firewall may be blocking the download of .exe files. Try changing the extension to something benign like .der and then change it back after the file downloads. Once you change the extension back to .exe it should install with no problems. Michael Also try emptying your temp folders, restarting Windows and try again. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Download Executables
On 2/11/2011 8:17 AM On a whim, David E. Ross pounded out on the keyboard I've been trying to download the installer file for Flash Player 10.2.152.26. I get the File Save selection window to indicate where to place the file. Then I get a progress popup that says the download was cancelled. I select the small retry button (the button with the circular arrow). I see that something appears to download, but when I go to the destination folder, the file has 0 size. I've tried this with other installer executables. I get the same result with them. I've also tried using Save Link Target As (which is not available for Flash Player) and get the same result. I've tried this with non-executable files, and have no problems with them. It appears that SeaMonkey or the Download Manager is blocking files with the .exe file-extension. Trying all this while running SeaMonkey in safe mode does not help. Is this a known bug? Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101123 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 Hi David, Some additional things to try here: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/unable%20to%20download%20or%20save%20files For FF but SM is similar. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Print issue in SM
On 2/10/2011 7:39 PM On a whim, Paul B. Gallagher pounded out on the keyboard This goes back all the way to Mozilla, so it may be a W3C compliance issue, but it's annoying nevertheless. On many websites, I can't seem to get a decent printout. For example, my local paper has a searchable obituaries page, and I got 60 hits on my last search, but it would only print the first page. I can see the rest on screen, but I can't get them out on paper. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montgomerynews/obituary-search.aspx?page=1affiliateid=2762countryid=1daterange=8stateid=49startdate=20110116enddate=20110210entriesperpage=50 This returns 60 hits, of which the first 50 are displayed, but only seven will print. In fact, in print preview, the first page is the page header with no content, the second page is the first page of content, and the third page is the page footer. That's it. The other 43 hits have vanished. I've tried this with several different printers, including Adobe Acrobat, and they're all the same. Mozilla and SeaMonkey seem to think the second page is 10 feet tall and print only the first 11 inches. Needless to say, it prints fine in Internet Exploiter (except the header page, which is the same in both). Any ideas? I hate wasting ink and paper on ads, and I really hate having to switch browsers whenever I want to print something. Regardless of how everyone badmouths IE, it prints. I just tried the link with Chrome and it printed fine there also, even the header. It's ridiculous that this flaw has gone on for years and still remains. I have had to remove FF on way too many client machines because of quirks like this that normal users don't understand and just start using what works. I've been installing Chrome on most of them since it is auto-updating and will update even with a Limited User account. Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extension on Dual Boot system
On 2/25/2011 5:08 AM On a whim, Daniel pounded out on the keyboard
I dual boot my HP6730b Laptop with both Win7 and Mandriva Linux 2009.0
and have SM 2.0.11 on both.
Last Sunday evening, I deliberately booted into my Win7 system and
started up SeaMonkey to give it a chance to download any System and AV
updates.
Then I went looking, my SM was plain vanilla installation, so I went to
addons.mozilla.org (or whatever the site is) and installed about a half
dozen extensions like AdBlockPlus, BeeFree, Display mail route, Ghostery
and KaiRo.at Mandelbrot (whatever this does???).
The installations all went without a problem, so on Monday, when I
booted into my Linux SeaMonkey, I was expecting to have to install the
same extensions, but no, they were showing up there in my Linux SM already.
At first I thought What the heck, but then I thought the Win7 SM
extensions would have been installed in the plug-ins folder {or
whatever} of my SM profile (which is, naturally, on a Win7 drive) and my
Linux SM uses the same profile, and, it would seem, the same plug-ins
folder {or whatever} of my SM profile (which is, naturally, on a Win7
drive because Linux can see Windows drives but Windows cannot see
Linux mount points.).
But isn't the code words used (whatever) for Windows going to be
different to the code words used for Linux (whatever)??
Anyone??
Daniel
Hi Daniel,
I don't use SM, but I have TB installed on multiple OS's. I would
create another partition and move your profile there to share data
between. I have all OS's each on a partition, data on another, and
programs on another. I separated all the mail/news data out of the
profile into a separate folder, and that is what was shared with Linux.
The rest (add-ons etc) needs to be installed into each OS, unless you
have many Windows OS's as I do. With those I can point to the same
profile on each one.
I don't hardly use Linux at all any more (as no clients or friends ever
used it and I only installed it for support purposes), but the above
worked fine for sharing between them.
Terry R.
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Re: Restoring Profile, HELP!
On 3/1/2011 2:22 PM On a whim, Palikari ATL pounded out on the keyboard I recently bought a new hard drive and installed it on my computer. I forgot to back up my SeaMonkey profile on my old hard drive with MozBackup. The profile is still there on my old drive, is there a way to import the old profile to my new hard drive/new SeaMonkey program? Thanks Hi Palikari, Yes. See here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey Terry R. -- Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
