Re: Selecting text with thunderbird

[Chris G via Talk]

Hi,
f8, then hit your end key, then f8 again.
Chris



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 Original Message 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, Jan 19, 2017 3:31 AM EST
To: L Urie; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Selecting text with thunderbird

Yeah if it's only a link, that's the easiest.  I occasionally have an
issue when there is only one line of text such as a URL without a link.
I'd like to avoid having to right arrow through the entire URL.  Is
there a way to copy the URL without right arrowing?

On 1/18/2017 9:35 PM, L Urie via Talk wrote:
Hi,


I'm using Windows 10 with the latest version of WE. I can't select text
in an email when using thunderbird.  I can select a whole email by doing
control A but if I only want to select just a line, like a link for
example, I can't do it.  Shift with any of the arrow keys doesn't work.
What am I missing?


Thanks


Lee



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Re: Selecting text with thunderbird

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

The F8 method only works when in browse mode. So when viewing a message 
in browse mode you need to use it. When writing a message you have to 
use the standard shifted keys method.


When in browse mode and on a link just press home to go to the beginning 
and then F8 twice. this will select the entire link.


When you have the text of a link but it doesn't register as a link, or 
whenever you want to select a line, home to the beginning, F8, end to 
the end, F8, and you've selected and copied that line.


Hth,
Tom


On 1/19/2017 3:31 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

Yeah if it's only a link, that's the easiest.  I occasionally have an
issue when there is only one line of text such as a URL without a link.
I'd like to avoid having to right arrow through the entire URL.  Is
there a way to copy the URL without right arrowing?

On 1/18/2017 9:35 PM, L Urie via Talk wrote:

Hi,


I'm using Windows 10 with the latest version of WE. I can't select text
in an email when using thunderbird.  I can select a whole email by doing
control A but if I only want to select just a line, like a link for
example, I can't do it.  Shift with any of the arrow keys doesn't work.
What am I missing?


Thanks


Lee



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Re: Selecting text with thunderbird

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Yeah if it's only a link, that's the easiest.  I occasionally have an 
issue when there is only one line of text such as a URL without a link. 
I'd like to avoid having to right arrow through the entire URL.  Is 
there a way to copy the URL without right arrowing?

On 1/18/2017 9:35 PM, L Urie via Talk wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I'm using Windows 10 with the latest version of WE. I can't select text
> in an email when using thunderbird.  I can select a whole email by doing
> control A but if I only want to select just a line, like a link for
> example, I can't do it.  Shift with any of the arrow keys doesn't work.
> What am I missing?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Lee
>
>
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Re: Selecting text with thunderbird

[Jim via Talk]

Hi there!

When selecting text using W.E. do the following. Place the pointer at 
the beginning of what you wish to hi-light and press the F8 key.  W.E. 
should say 'selection start'. when you are through hi-light the text 
press the 'F8 key' again and W.e. should say something like 'copied to 
clipboard'.  It took a bit of getting use to, but I use it now about as 
easily as I did the old way.  Good Luck and Have A Good 1! de


.


On 18-Jan-17 21:35, L Urie via Talk wrote:

Hi,


I'm using Windows 10 with the latest version of WE. I can't select 
text in an email when using thunderbird.  I can select a whole email 
by doing control A but if I only want to select just a line, like a 
link for example, I can't do it.  Shift with any of the arrow keys 
doesn't work.  What am I missing?



Thanks


Lee



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Re: Selecting text with thunderbird

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

Find the biginning of the text you want to select. Press the F8 key to 
mark the beginning.  Find the end of the text you want and press the F8 
key again.  Press enter on the copy plain text button to copy the text 
to the clipboaard.  Of course, I am assuming you are using the latest 
Window-Eyes.


Carol


On 1/18/2017 9:35 PM, L Urie via Talk wrote:

Hi,


I'm using Windows 10 with the latest version of WE. I can't select 
text in an email when using thunderbird.  I can select a whole email 
by doing control A but if I only want to select just a line, like a 
link for example, I can't do it.  Shift with any of the arrow keys 
doesn't work.  What am I missing?



Thanks


Lee



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Re: Selecting text with thunderbird

[brice Mijares via Talk]

You need to select text using the F-8 way.

On 1/18/2017 6:35 PM, L Urie via Talk wrote:

Hi,


I'm using Windows 10 with the latest version of WE. I can't select text
in an email when using thunderbird.  I can select a whole email by doing
control A but if I only want to select just a line, like a link for
example, I can't do it.  Shift with any of the arrow keys doesn't work.
What am I missing?


Thanks


Lee



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RE: selecting text

[Don Smith via Talk]

Hi:
Regarding the f8 key and selecting text, to me it works in different ways.
Depending:

Sometimes a link in an email, f8 twice works, other times, I hit at the
first character, then I keep arrowing right until I hdar a ding, then I
backup one character and then hit f8, it works every time
More work, but it has never failed.

Don


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RE: selecting text

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

If you get an email where it is a web address but doesn't show as a link, f8 
twice won't work.
Chris



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:37 AM
To: Nick Sarames <nicksara...@msn.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text

When I am trying to copy a link, and I am using the f8, I just press f8 
twice.  I don't do anything with the arrow keys.  That copies the link. 
Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 3:20 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Lloyd Rasmussen
Subject: Re: selecting text

Occasionally, I receive e-mails with links to various Youtube videos,
except that I only receive the URL without a link to click on.
Generally what I do is copy using the f-8 method and the right arrow
key.  While it is tedious, this method is not much more than a minor
annoyance.  But here is my question, I have tried copying the link using
the down arrow key (of course, after I have pressed f-8) and it doesn't
always work.  This happens especially when the URL is at the bottom of
the e-mail.  I have tried placing the cursor above the URL and then down
arrowing, and that seems to copy the text above, instead of the URL.
Have I made this confusing enough?

On 8/31/2016 9:40 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> Just remember that the F8 selection method is specific to browse mode
> and in both cases (in a browser or an email client) you have to go back
> and forth.
>
> When I'm reading a message in Thunderbird I'm in browse mode and have to
> use the F8 method. But when I'm writing a message I'm not and have to
> use the standard shifted method. Same in a browser. When you're reading
> a page it's F8 and when you exit browse mode to enter text in an edit
> box you have to fall back on the shifted method.
>
> The only constant is when you're in the context pane of a CHM file. then
> you're always in browse mode.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> On 8/31/2016 3:24 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
>> If you are in Thunderbird or a web browser, Window-Eyes 9 and above has
>> a different selection method. You essentially define the beginning and
>> end of a block of text with the F8 key. While defining the extent of the
>> block, you use unshifted arrow or control-arro keys. When you have
>> pressed F8 the second time, you are asked whether you want to copy
>> formatted or unformatted text onto the Windows clipboard. Which of those
>> options you choose will depend on what you plan to do with the text
>> next.  This is covered in the Window-Eyes Features, Working with the
>> Internet, Selecting Text part of the manual.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>> -Original Message- From: Greg Mason via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:07 PM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: selecting text
>>
>> I am using a Dell desktop computer.  I am unable to select text with
>> control shift right arrow as usual.  Any help will be appreciated.
>> G
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Re: selecting text

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

I am not copying a link, I am copying a URL.  The reason it is not a 
link is you cannot click on it.  Apparently, it has to do with the 
e-mail program the sender is using.

On 9/1/2016 11:37 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> When I am trying to copy a link, and I am using the f8, I just press f8
> twice.  I don't do anything with the arrow keys.  That copies the link.
> Pam.
>
> -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 3:20 AM
> To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Lloyd Rasmussen
> Subject: Re: selecting text
>
> Occasionally, I receive e-mails with links to various Youtube videos,
> except that I only receive the URL without a link to click on.
> Generally what I do is copy using the f-8 method and the right arrow
> key.  While it is tedious, this method is not much more than a minor
> annoyance.  But here is my question, I have tried copying the link using
> the down arrow key (of course, after I have pressed f-8) and it doesn't
> always work.  This happens especially when the URL is at the bottom of
> the e-mail.  I have tried placing the cursor above the URL and then down
> arrowing, and that seems to copy the text above, instead of the URL.
> Have I made this confusing enough?
>
> On 8/31/2016 9:40 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>> Just remember that the F8 selection method is specific to browse mode
>> and in both cases (in a browser or an email client) you have to go back
>> and forth.
>>
>> When I'm reading a message in Thunderbird I'm in browse mode and have to
>> use the F8 method. But when I'm writing a message I'm not and have to
>> use the standard shifted method. Same in a browser. When you're reading
>> a page it's F8 and when you exit browse mode to enter text in an edit
>> box you have to fall back on the shifted method.
>>
>> The only constant is when you're in the context pane of a CHM file. then
>> you're always in browse mode.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 8/31/2016 3:24 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
>>> If you are in Thunderbird or a web browser, Window-Eyes 9 and above has
>>> a different selection method. You essentially define the beginning and
>>> end of a block of text with the F8 key. While defining the extent of the
>>> block, you use unshifted arrow or control-arro keys. When you have
>>> pressed F8 the second time, you are asked whether you want to copy
>>> formatted or unformatted text onto the Windows clipboard. Which of those
>>> options you choose will depend on what you plan to do with the text
>>> next.  This is covered in the Window-Eyes Features, Working with the
>>> Internet, Selecting Text part of the manual.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>> -Original Message- From: Greg Mason via Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:07 PM
>>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>>> Subject: selecting text
>>>
>>> I am using a Dell desktop computer.  I am unable to select text with
>>> control shift right arrow as usual.  Any help will be appreciated.
>>> G
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Re: selecting text

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

When I am trying to copy a link, and I am using the f8, I just press f8 
twice.  I don't do anything with the arrow keys.  That copies the link. 
Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 3:20 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Lloyd Rasmussen
Subject: Re: selecting text

Occasionally, I receive e-mails with links to various Youtube videos,
except that I only receive the URL without a link to click on.
Generally what I do is copy using the f-8 method and the right arrow
key.  While it is tedious, this method is not much more than a minor
annoyance.  But here is my question, I have tried copying the link using
the down arrow key (of course, after I have pressed f-8) and it doesn't
always work.  This happens especially when the URL is at the bottom of
the e-mail.  I have tried placing the cursor above the URL and then down
arrowing, and that seems to copy the text above, instead of the URL.
Have I made this confusing enough?

On 8/31/2016 9:40 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

Just remember that the F8 selection method is specific to browse mode
and in both cases (in a browser or an email client) you have to go back
and forth.

When I'm reading a message in Thunderbird I'm in browse mode and have to
use the F8 method. But when I'm writing a message I'm not and have to
use the standard shifted method. Same in a browser. When you're reading
a page it's F8 and when you exit browse mode to enter text in an edit
box you have to fall back on the shifted method.

The only constant is when you're in the context pane of a CHM file. then
you're always in browse mode.

Regards,
Tom


On 8/31/2016 3:24 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:

If you are in Thunderbird or a web browser, Window-Eyes 9 and above has
a different selection method. You essentially define the beginning and
end of a block of text with the F8 key. While defining the extent of the
block, you use unshifted arrow or control-arro keys. When you have
pressed F8 the second time, you are asked whether you want to copy
formatted or unformatted text onto the Windows clipboard. Which of those
options you choose will depend on what you plan to do with the text
next.  This is covered in the Window-Eyes Features, Working with the
Internet, Selecting Text part of the manual.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Greg Mason via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:07 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: selecting text

I am using a Dell desktop computer.  I am unable to select text with
control shift right arrow as usual.  Any help will be appreciated.
G
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Re: selecting text

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Nick,

I've never had the problem you mention. So I don't know what to say. I 
just go to the start, press F8, move to the end using whatever method is 
the quickest, press f8 again, and it copies whatever I've selected.


The only exception I've experienced which is similar to what you're 
saying is when the link is long and broken over more then one line. Then 
it usually doesn't work anyway because there's a space inserted at the 
line break. So I copy the two lines, pop up Notepad, paste, get rid of 
the space, and copy it again.


Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Regards,
Tom


On 9/1/2016 3:20 AM, Nick Sarames wrote:

Occasionally, I receive e-mails with links to various Youtube videos,
except that I only receive the URL without a link to click on.
Generally what I do is copy using the f-8 method and the right arrow
key.  While it is tedious, this method is not much more than a minor
annoyance.  But here is my question, I have tried copying the link using
the down arrow key (of course, after I have pressed f-8) and it doesn't
always work.  This happens especially when the URL is at the bottom of
the e-mail.  I have tried placing the cursor above the URL and then down
arrowing, and that seems to copy the text above, instead of the URL.
Have I made this confusing enough?

On 8/31/2016 9:40 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

Just remember that the F8 selection method is specific to browse mode
and in both cases (in a browser or an email client) you have to go back
and forth.

When I'm reading a message in Thunderbird I'm in browse mode and have to
use the F8 method. But when I'm writing a message I'm not and have to
use the standard shifted method. Same in a browser. When you're reading
a page it's F8 and when you exit browse mode to enter text in an edit
box you have to fall back on the shifted method.

The only constant is when you're in the context pane of a CHM file. then
you're always in browse mode.

Regards,
Tom


On 8/31/2016 3:24 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:

If you are in Thunderbird or a web browser, Window-Eyes 9 and above has
a different selection method. You essentially define the beginning and
end of a block of text with the F8 key. While defining the extent of the
block, you use unshifted arrow or control-arro keys. When you have
pressed F8 the second time, you are asked whether you want to copy
formatted or unformatted text onto the Windows clipboard. Which of those
options you choose will depend on what you plan to do with the text
next.  This is covered in the Window-Eyes Features, Working with the
Internet, Selecting Text part of the manual.




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-Original Message- From: Greg Mason via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:07 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: selecting text

I am using a Dell desktop computer.  I am unable to select text with
control shift right arrow as usual.  Any help will be appreciated.
G
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RE: selecting text

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Assuming the url is the only thing on the line:
Home, then f8, end, then f8 again and finally enter.
You could always do control-right to move after the url, press f8, then home, 
then f8 again, then enter.


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On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:21 AM
To: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; Lloyd Rasmussen <l...@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text

Occasionally, I receive e-mails with links to various Youtube videos, except 
that I only receive the URL without a link to click on. 
Generally what I do is copy using the f-8 method and the right arrow key.  
While it is tedious, this method is not much more than a minor annoyance.  But 
here is my question, I have tried copying the link using the down arrow key (of 
course, after I have pressed f-8) and it doesn't always work.  This happens 
especially when the URL is at the bottom of the e-mail.  I have tried placing 
the cursor above the URL and then down arrowing, and that seems to copy the 
text above, instead of the URL. 
Have I made this confusing enough?

On 8/31/2016 9:40 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> Just remember that the F8 selection method is specific to browse mode 
> and in both cases (in a browser or an email client) you have to go 
> back and forth.
>
> When I'm reading a message in Thunderbird I'm in browse mode and have 
> to use the F8 method. But when I'm writing a message I'm not and have 
> to use the standard shifted method. Same in a browser. When you're 
> reading a page it's F8 and when you exit browse mode to enter text in 
> an edit box you have to fall back on the shifted method.
>
> The only constant is when you're in the context pane of a CHM file. 
> then you're always in browse mode.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> On 8/31/2016 3:24 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
>> If you are in Thunderbird or a web browser, Window-Eyes 9 and above 
>> has a different selection method. You essentially define the 
>> beginning and end of a block of text with the F8 key. While defining 
>> the extent of the block, you use unshifted arrow or control-arro 
>> keys. When you have pressed F8 the second time, you are asked whether 
>> you want to copy formatted or unformatted text onto the Windows 
>> clipboard. Which of those options you choose will depend on what you 
>> plan to do with the text next.  This is covered in the Window-Eyes 
>> Features, Working with the Internet, Selecting Text part of the manual.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>> -Original Message- From: Greg Mason via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:07 PM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: selecting text
>>
>> I am using a Dell desktop computer.  I am unable to select text with 
>> control shift right arrow as usual.  Any help will be appreciated.
>> G
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Re: selecting text

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Occasionally, I receive e-mails with links to various Youtube videos, 
except that I only receive the URL without a link to click on. 
Generally what I do is copy using the f-8 method and the right arrow 
key.  While it is tedious, this method is not much more than a minor 
annoyance.  But here is my question, I have tried copying the link using 
the down arrow key (of course, after I have pressed f-8) and it doesn't 
always work.  This happens especially when the URL is at the bottom of 
the e-mail.  I have tried placing the cursor above the URL and then down 
arrowing, and that seems to copy the text above, instead of the URL. 
Have I made this confusing enough?

On 8/31/2016 9:40 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> Just remember that the F8 selection method is specific to browse mode
> and in both cases (in a browser or an email client) you have to go back
> and forth.
>
> When I'm reading a message in Thunderbird I'm in browse mode and have to
> use the F8 method. But when I'm writing a message I'm not and have to
> use the standard shifted method. Same in a browser. When you're reading
> a page it's F8 and when you exit browse mode to enter text in an edit
> box you have to fall back on the shifted method.
>
> The only constant is when you're in the context pane of a CHM file. then
> you're always in browse mode.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
> On 8/31/2016 3:24 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
>> If you are in Thunderbird or a web browser, Window-Eyes 9 and above has
>> a different selection method. You essentially define the beginning and
>> end of a block of text with the F8 key. While defining the extent of the
>> block, you use unshifted arrow or control-arro keys. When you have
>> pressed F8 the second time, you are asked whether you want to copy
>> formatted or unformatted text onto the Windows clipboard. Which of those
>> options you choose will depend on what you plan to do with the text
>> next.  This is covered in the Window-Eyes Features, Working with the
>> Internet, Selecting Text part of the manual.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>> -Original Message- From: Greg Mason via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:07 PM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: selecting text
>>
>> I am using a Dell desktop computer.  I am unable to select text with
>> control shift right arrow as usual.  Any help will be appreciated.
>> G
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Re: selecting text

[Greg Mason via Talk]

Thanks



On 8/31/2016 6:40 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Just remember that the F8 selection method is specific to browse mode 
and in both cases (in a browser or an email client) you have to go 
back and forth.


When I'm reading a message in Thunderbird I'm in browse mode and have 
to use the F8 method. But when I'm writing a message I'm not and have 
to use the standard shifted method. Same in a browser. When you're 
reading a page it's F8 and when you exit browse mode to enter text in 
an edit box you have to fall back on the shifted method.


The only constant is when you're in the context pane of a CHM file. 
then you're always in browse mode.


Regards,
Tom


On 8/31/2016 3:24 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:

If you are in Thunderbird or a web browser, Window-Eyes 9 and above has
a different selection method. You essentially define the beginning and
end of a block of text with the F8 key. While defining the extent of the
block, you use unshifted arrow or control-arro keys. When you have
pressed F8 the second time, you are asked whether you want to copy
formatted or unformatted text onto the Windows clipboard. Which of those
options you choose will depend on what you plan to do with the text
next.  This is covered in the Window-Eyes Features, Working with the
Internet, Selecting Text part of the manual.




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-Original Message- From: Greg Mason via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:07 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: selecting text

I am using a Dell desktop computer.  I am unable to select text with
control shift right arrow as usual.  Any help will be appreciated.
G
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RE: selecting text

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Tom,

Just a minor correction in your post below.
In your last paragraph, clearly you meant to use the word "content" rather
than "context."
I'm picking nits here only for clarity. Smile

Thanks for the post, btw,

Rod

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:40 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen <l...@sprynet.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text

Just remember that the F8 selection method is specific to browse mode and in
both cases (in a browser or an email client) you have to go back and forth.

When I'm reading a message in Thunderbird I'm in browse mode and have to use
the F8 method. But when I'm writing a message I'm not and have to use the
standard shifted method. Same in a browser. When you're reading a page it's
F8 and when you exit browse mode to enter text in an edit box you have to
fall back on the shifted method.

The only constant is when you're in the context pane of a CHM file. then
you're always in browse mode.

Regards,
Tom


On 8/31/2016 3:24 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
> If you are in Thunderbird or a web browser, Window-Eyes 9 and above 
> has a different selection method. You essentially define the beginning 
> and end of a block of text with the F8 key. While defining the extent 
> of the block, you use unshifted arrow or control-arro keys. When you 
> have pressed F8 the second time, you are asked whether you want to 
> copy formatted or unformatted text onto the Windows clipboard. Which 
> of those options you choose will depend on what you plan to do with 
> the text next.  This is covered in the Window-Eyes Features, Working 
> with the Internet, Selecting Text part of the manual.
>
>
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -Original Message- From: Greg Mason via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:07 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: selecting text
>
> I am using a Dell desktop computer.  I am unable to select text with 
> control shift right arrow as usual.  Any help will be appreciated.
> G
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Re: selecting text

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Just remember that the F8 selection method is specific to browse mode 
and in both cases (in a browser or an email client) you have to go back 
and forth.


When I'm reading a message in Thunderbird I'm in browse mode and have to 
use the F8 method. But when I'm writing a message I'm not and have to 
use the standard shifted method. Same in a browser. When you're reading 
a page it's F8 and when you exit browse mode to enter text in an edit 
box you have to fall back on the shifted method.


The only constant is when you're in the context pane of a CHM file. then 
you're always in browse mode.


Regards,
Tom


On 8/31/2016 3:24 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:

If you are in Thunderbird or a web browser, Window-Eyes 9 and above has
a different selection method. You essentially define the beginning and
end of a block of text with the F8 key. While defining the extent of the
block, you use unshifted arrow or control-arro keys. When you have
pressed F8 the second time, you are asked whether you want to copy
formatted or unformatted text onto the Windows clipboard. Which of those
options you choose will depend on what you plan to do with the text
next.  This is covered in the Window-Eyes Features, Working with the
Internet, Selecting Text part of the manual.




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http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Greg Mason via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 3:07 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: selecting text

I am using a Dell desktop computer.  I am unable to select text with
control shift right arrow as usual.  Any help will be appreciated.
G
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RE: selecting text in e-mails to copy and paste

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
When using the f8 method, I assume you are not holding down the shift key when 
moving through the page?  This is correct.  The shift key is not necessary and 
can cause issues.
Chris


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On Behalf Of CJ  MAY via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 3:12 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: selecting text in e-mails to copy and paste 

Since upgrading to the latest version of Window-eyes and the recent Windows 10, 
I don't seem able to select text in e-mails to copy etc. I've tried the old way 
of just selecting text and the more recent way of using f8 but neither seems to 
work. 

Any ideas?

Alison

 

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Re: selecting text in e-mails to copy and paste

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

Hi.
I use windows 7 and the latest W.E.  I have Becky for email and the only way I 
can copy text in email is to go to the top line tha I want and use shift - down 
arrow keys to end, then control C.  Maybe that will work for you.  It's line by 
line, but works for me.

Mike



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On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:12:02 +0100
CJ  MAY via Talk  wrote:

> Since upgrading to the latest version of Window-eyes and the recent Windows
> 10, I don't seem able to select text in e-mails to copy etc. I've tried the
> old way of just selecting text and the more recent way of using f8 but
> neither seems to work. 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Alison
> 
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RE: selecting text and f8 key

[Andrew via Talk]

Hello all, can anyone direct me to a tutorial about Window Eyes and Windows
7. I have a friend who is finally coming up to Windows 7 from XP. Now back
to regular program still in progress.  Andrew


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+edrew=cox@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:32 PM
To: Larry Higgins; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

I haven't copied sentences or groups of words with f8, but I have copied
urls and the whole url is copied.  I do f8 twice and hit enter.  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 3:14 PM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Chris Grabowski'
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Chris,

As I think I have made quite clear in my previous posts to Rod, I have no
problem doing what is necessary to assure that I have indeed selected an
entire word unit using f8, that is moving from the first letter of the word
to the last character and once again pressing f8. I will take
f8 on its own turns. But It is been proven to me by my own hand that in text
editors or word processors, that using ctrl-right or left arrow, while maybe
appearing to only select or unselect the first letter, actually select the
entire word, and that can be proven simply by copying what has been selected
and placing it at the end of the document, and taking a look at your work.

Again, technically, you may indeed be right, but for all intents and
purposes, the entire word unit is selected.

I am not demanding a change when it comes to f8, all though I really would
find it more convenient to be able to by default, select an entire word
unit, rather than just the first letter, because that is usually what is
meant by using the ctrl-shift arrow keys when editing  as normally excepted
standard procedure.

As I've indicated, this isn't the proverbial show-stopper, just a relatively
minor irritation.

Indeed, if most users of this method have no problem with the present state
of affairs, I am willing to concede my minority status and get on with the
rest of my life .

Have a great day, and keep up your great work,

Larry

On 7/18/2016 8:43 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Yes, your point is well made and taken, and yet Larry's point is that 
> with the normal selection method accomplished using Shift and the 
> arrow keys, words are selected as one navigates to them.
> Personally, I've come to develop some memory cues in order to remind 
> myself what I'm doing and in which context.
> It's still easy to get confused, though. smile
>
> Best,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:43 AM
> To: Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion 
> List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: RE: selecting text and f8 key
>
> This is standard behavior when using control-left and control-right in 
> any text editor.
> Your cursor lands on the first character of the word.
> When you use f8 you are placing a marker where your cursor is.  
> Pressing
> f8
> the second time  places the second marker where your cursor is.  If it 
> is in the beginning of the word or middle it selects between the two 
> points.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
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> Ai Squared
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:33 AM
> To: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion 
> List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>
> Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up 
> coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after 
> I used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words.
>
> "After a two-week absence, I'm back with my top Shelf Oldies s."
>
> That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing 
> without holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but 
> not when using the ctrl key.
>
> As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an inconvenience. 
> I
> can live with it, just wish I didn't have too .
>
> On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
>> > I have never heard of f8 working like that.  It selects the whole 
>> > thing for me.  Pam.
>> >
>> > -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>> &

Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

I haven't copied sentences or groups of words with f8, but I have copied 
urls and the whole url is copied.  I do f8 twice and hit enter.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 3:14 PM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Chris Grabowski'
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Chris,

As I think I have made quite clear in my previous posts to Rod, I have
no problem doing what is necessary to assure that I have indeed selected
an entire word unit using f8, that is moving from the first letter of
the word to the last character and once again pressing f8. I will take
f8 on its own turns. But It is been proven to me by my own hand that in
text editors or word processors, that using ctrl-right or left arrow,
while maybe appearing to only select or unselect the first letter,
actually select the entire word, and that can be proven simply by
copying what has been selected and placing it at the end of the
document, and taking a look at your work.

Again, technically, you may indeed be right, but for all intents and
purposes, the entire word unit is selected.

I am not demanding a change when it comes to f8, all though I really
would find it more convenient to be able to by default, select an entire
word unit, rather than just the first letter, because that is usually
what is meant by using the ctrl-shift arrow keys when editing  as
normally excepted standard procedure.

As I've indicated, this isn't the proverbial show-stopper, just a
relatively minor irritation.

Indeed, if most users of this method have no problem with the present
state of affairs, I am willing to concede my minority status and get on
with the rest of my life .

Have a great day, and keep up your great work,

Larry

On 7/18/2016 8:43 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Chris,

Yes, your point is well made and taken, and yet Larry's point is that with
the normal selection method accomplished using Shift and the arrow keys,
words are selected as one navigates to them.
Personally, I've come to develop some memory cues in order to remind 
myself

what I'm doing and in which context.
It's still easy to get confused, though. smile

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf

Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:43 AM
To: Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion 
List

<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: selecting text and f8 key

This is standard behavior when using control-left and control-right in any
text editor.
Your cursor lands on the first character of the word.
When you use f8 you are placing a marker where your cursor is.  Pressing 
f8
the second time  places the second marker where your cursor is.  If it is 
in

the beginning of the word or middle it selects between the two points.

Chris




Ai Squared Support
Ai Squared
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Fort Wayne, IN 46825
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-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:33 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up
coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after I
used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words.

"After a two-week absence, I'm back with my top Shelf Oldies s."

That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing without
holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but not when 
using

the ctrl key.

As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an inconvenience. 
I

can live with it, just wish I didn't have too .

On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

> I have never heard of f8 working like that.  It selects the whole
> thing for me.  Pam.
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>
> Robert, going to the end of a word or line  indeed works, however,
> normally when making a word selection in practically any editing
> program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys
> you are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method,
> you will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am
> alone in this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of 
> why.

> Anyway,  that is the way f8 has always worked for me.
>
> On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

>> 'It doesn't work that way for me.
>>
>> I just do a F8 at the beginning of the

Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Chris,

As I think I have made quite clear in my previous posts to Rod, I have 
no problem doing what is necessary to assure that I have indeed selected 
an entire word unit using f8, that is moving from the first letter of 
the word to the last character and once again pressing f8. I will take 
f8 on its own turns. But It is been proven to me by my own hand that in 
text editors or word processors, that using ctrl-right or left arrow, 
while maybe appearing to only select or unselect the first letter, 
actually select the entire word, and that can be proven simply by 
copying what has been selected and placing it at the end of the 
document, and taking a look at your work.


Again, technically, you may indeed be right, but for all intents and 
purposes, the entire word unit is selected.


I am not demanding a change when it comes to f8, all though I really 
would find it more convenient to be able to by default, select an entire 
word unit, rather than just the first letter, because that is usually 
what is meant by using the ctrl-shift arrow keys when editing  as 
normally excepted standard procedure.


As I've indicated, this isn't the proverbial show-stopper, just a 
relatively minor irritation.


Indeed, if most users of this method have no problem with the present 
state of affairs, I am willing to concede my minority status and get on 
with the rest of my life .


Have a great day, and keep up your great work,

Larry

On 7/18/2016 8:43 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Chris,

Yes, your point is well made and taken, and yet Larry's point is that with
the normal selection method accomplished using Shift and the arrow keys,
words are selected as one navigates to them.
Personally, I've come to develop some memory cues in order to remind myself
what I'm doing and in which context.
It's still easy to get confused, though. smile

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:43 AM
To: Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: selecting text and f8 key

This is standard behavior when using control-left and control-right in any
text editor.
Your cursor lands on the first character of the word.
When you use f8 you are placing a marker where your cursor is.  Pressing f8
the second time  places the second marker where your cursor is.  If it is in
the beginning of the word or middle it selects between the two points.

Chris




Ai Squared Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:33 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up
coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after I
used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words.

"After a two-week absence, I'm back with my top Shelf Oldies s."

That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing without
holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but not when using
the ctrl key.

As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an inconvenience. I
can live with it, just wish I didn't have too .

On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

> I have never heard of f8 working like that.  It selects the whole
> thing for me.  Pam.
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>
> Robert, going to the end of a word or line  indeed works, however,
> normally when making a word selection in practically any editing
> program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys
> you are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method,
> you will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am
> alone in this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of why.
> Anyway,  that is the way f8 has always worked for me.
>
> On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

>> 'It doesn't work that way for me.
>>
>> I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an
>> F8 on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.
>>
>> Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.
>>
>> -Bob Ringwald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, July 15

RE: selecting text and f8 key

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Chris,

Yes, your point is well made and taken, and yet Larry's point is that with
the normal selection method accomplished using Shift and the arrow keys,
words are selected as one navigates to them.
Personally, I've come to develop some memory cues in order to remind myself
what I'm doing and in which context.
It's still easy to get confused, though. smile

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:43 AM
To: Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: selecting text and f8 key

This is standard behavior when using control-left and control-right in any
text editor.
Your cursor lands on the first character of the word.
When you use f8 you are placing a marker where your cursor is.  Pressing f8
the second time  places the second marker where your cursor is.  If it is in
the beginning of the word or middle it selects between the two points.

Chris




Ai Squared Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:33 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up
coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after I
used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words.

"After a two-week absence, I'm back with my top Shelf Oldies s."

That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing without
holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but not when using
the ctrl key.

As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an inconvenience. I
can live with it, just wish I didn't have too .

On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> I have never heard of f8 working like that.  It selects the whole 
> thing for me.  Pam.
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>
> Robert, going to the end of a word or line  indeed works, however, 
> normally when making a word selection in practically any editing 
> program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys 
> you are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method, 
> you will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am 
> alone in this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of why.
> Anyway,  that is the way f8 has always worked for me.
>
> On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
>> 'It doesn't work that way for me.
>>
>> I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an 
>> F8 on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.
>>
>> Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.
>>
>> -Bob Ringwald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
>> To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
>> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>>
>> I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method 
>> in brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that 
>> on the last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each 
>> individual character up to the end, because you will only get the 
>> first character on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of 
>> doing things, but a fact/quirk nevertheless.,
>>
>> Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for 
>> selecting to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you 
>> wish to lift only a word or two, this could get to be rather 
>> frustrating until you figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to
work that way.
>>
>>
>> On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
>>> Ok, thanks, got it.
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
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RE: selecting text and f8 key

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

This is standard behavior when using control-left and control-right in any text 
editor.
Your cursor lands on the first character of the word.
When you use f8 you are placing a marker where your cursor is.  Pressing f8 the 
second time  places the second marker where your cursor is.  If it is in the 
beginning of the word or middle it selects between the two points.

Chris




Ai Squared Support
Ai Squared
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Fort Wayne, IN 46825
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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:33 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up 
coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after I 
used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words.

"After a two-week absence, I'm back with my top Shelf Oldies s."

That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing 
without holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but not 
when using the ctrl key.

As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an 
inconvenience. I can live with it, just wish I didn't have too .

On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> I have never heard of f8 working like that.  It selects the whole thing
> for me.  Pam.
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>
> Robert, going to the end of a word or line  indeed works, however,
> normally when making a word selection in practically any editing
> program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys you
> are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method, you
> will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am alone in
> this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of why.
> Anyway,  that is the way f8 has always worked for me.
>
> On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
>> 'It doesn't work that way for me.
>>
>> I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an F8
>> on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.
>>
>> Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.
>>
>> -Bob Ringwald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
>> To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
>> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>>
>> I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method in
>> brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that on the
>> last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each individual
>> character up to the end, because you will only get the first character
>> on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of doing things, but a
>> fact/quirk nevertheless.,
>>
>> Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for selecting
>> to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you wish to lift
>> only a word or two, this could get to be rather frustrating until you
>> figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to work that way.
>>
>>
>> On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
>>> Ok, thanks, got it.
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
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Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Hey Rod, Again I say, in every other application where I go to select 
text , in any other editor, or word processor, the ctrl-shift-arrow keys 
selects the entire word, f8 is the exception.


I've even copied your message into Wordpad, and this is the behavior, 
but not with f8. Can I make this any clearer?


As I've indicated in previous posts on this matter, I am willing to do 
what I have to do to get the results I want, but this little minor 
readjustment to f8, or brows Mode selectivity would surely be appreciated.



On 7/16/2016 1:47 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Larry,

You're experience is consistent and makes perfect sense as far as what Is
supposed to happen, that is, the last character which is selected is and
should be the character which is currently focused.
So, if you want the entire word to be included in the block of text, then
you must arrow right so that the last character in the word is focused
before you press F8 for the second time.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:33 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up
coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after I
used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words.

"After a two-week absence, I'm back with my top Shelf Oldies s."

That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing without
holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but not when using
the ctrl key.

As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an inconvenience. I
can live with it, just wish I didn't have too .

On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

> I have never heard of f8 working like that.  It selects the whole
> thing for me.  Pam.
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>
> Robert, going to the end of a word or line  indeed works, however,
> normally when making a word selection in practically any editing
> program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys
> you are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method,
> you will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am
> alone in this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of why.
> Anyway,  that is the way f8 has always worked for me.
>
> On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

>> 'It doesn't work that way for me.
>>
>> I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an
>> F8 on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.
>>
>> Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.
>>
>> -Bob Ringwald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
>> To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
>> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>>
>> I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method
>> in brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that
>> on the last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each
>> individual character up to the end, because you will only get the
>> first character on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of
>> doing things, but a fact/quirk nevertheless.,
>>
>> Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for
>> selecting to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you
>> wish to lift only a word or two, this could get to be rather
>> frustrating until you figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to

work that way.

>>
>>
>> On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:

>>> Ok, thanks, got it.
>>> Don
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RE: selecting text and f8 key

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Larry,

You're experience is consistent and makes perfect sense as far as what Is
supposed to happen, that is, the last character which is selected is and
should be the character which is currently focused.
So, if you want the entire word to be included in the block of text, then
you must arrow right so that the last character in the word is focused
before you press F8 for the second time.

Hth,

Rod

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Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:33 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up
coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after I
used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words.

"After a two-week absence, I'm back with my top Shelf Oldies s."

That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing without
holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but not when using
the ctrl key.

As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an inconvenience. I
can live with it, just wish I didn't have too .

On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> I have never heard of f8 working like that.  It selects the whole 
> thing for me.  Pam.
>
> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>
> Robert, going to the end of a word or line  indeed works, however, 
> normally when making a word selection in practically any editing 
> program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys 
> you are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method, 
> you will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am 
> alone in this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of why.
> Anyway,  that is the way f8 has always worked for me.
>
> On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
>> 'It doesn't work that way for me.
>>
>> I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an 
>> F8 on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.
>>
>> Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.
>>
>> -Bob Ringwald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
>> To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
>> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>>
>> I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method 
>> in brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that 
>> on the last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each 
>> individual character up to the end, because you will only get the 
>> first character on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of 
>> doing things, but a fact/quirk nevertheless.,
>>
>> Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for 
>> selecting to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you 
>> wish to lift only a word or two, this could get to be rather 
>> frustrating until you figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to
work that way.
>>
>>
>> On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
>>> Ok, thanks, got it.
>>> Don
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Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up 
coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after I 
used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words.


"After a two-week absence, I’m back with my top Shelf Oldies s."

That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing 
without holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but not 
when using the ctrl key.


As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an 
inconvenience. I can live with it, just wish I didn't have too .


On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

I have never heard of f8 working like that.  It selects the whole thing
for me.  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Robert, going to the end of a word or line  indeed works, however,
normally when making a word selection in practically any editing
program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys you
are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method, you
will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am alone in
this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of why.
Anyway,  that is the way f8 has always worked for me.

On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

'It doesn't work that way for me.

I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an F8
on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.

Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method in
brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that on the
last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each individual
character up to the end, because you will only get the first character
on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of doing things, but a
fact/quirk nevertheless.,

Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for selecting
to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you wish to lift
only a word or two, this could get to be rather frustrating until you
figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to work that way.


On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:

Ok, thanks, got it.
Don


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Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

I have never heard of f8 working like that.  It selects the whole thing for 
me.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Robert, going to the end of a word or line  indeed works, however,
normally when making a word selection in practically any editing
program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys you
are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method, you
will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am alone in
this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of why.
Anyway,  that is the way f8 has always worked for me.

On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

'It doesn't work that way for me.

I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an F8
on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.

Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method in
brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that on the
last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each individual
character up to the end, because you will only get the first character
on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of doing things, but a
fact/quirk nevertheless.,

Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for selecting
to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you wish to lift
only a word or two, this could get to be rather frustrating until you
figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to work that way.


On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:

Ok, thanks, got it.
Don


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Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Robert, going to the end of a word or line  indeed works, however, 
normally when making a word selection in practically any editing 
program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys you 
are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method, you 
will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am alone in 
this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of why. 
Anyway,  that is the way f8 has always worked for me.


On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

'It doesn't work that way for me.

I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an F8
on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.

Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method in
brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that on the
last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each individual
character up to the end, because you will only get the first character
on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of doing things, but a
fact/quirk nevertheless.,

Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for selecting
to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you wish to lift
only a word or two, this could get to be rather frustrating until you
figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to work that way.


On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:

Ok, thanks, got it.
Don


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Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

Yes, that's how it works for me.  I do f8, then f8 again, then enter.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 3:17 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

'It doesn't work that way for me.

I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an F8 on
the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.

Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method in
brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that on the
last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each individual
character up to the end, because you will only get the first character
on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of doing things, but a
fact/quirk nevertheless.,

Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for selecting
to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you wish to lift
only a word or two, this could get to be rather frustrating until you
figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to work that way.


On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:

Ok, thanks, got it.
Don


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Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

'It doesn't work that way for me.

I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an F8 on 
the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.


Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method in
brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that on the
last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each individual
character up to the end, because you will only get the first character
on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of doing things, but a
fact/quirk nevertheless.,

Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for selecting
to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you wish to lift
only a word or two, this could get to be rather frustrating until you
figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to work that way.


On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:

Ok, thanks, got it.
Don


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Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method in 
brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that on the 
last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each individual 
character up to the end, because you will only get the first character 
on that last word. Just a quirk  of the F8 way of doing things, but a 
fact/quirk nevertheless.,


Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for selecting 
to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you wish to lift 
only a word or two, this could get to be rather frustrating until you 
figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to work that way.



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Ok, thanks, got it.
Don


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RE: selecting text and f8 key

[Don Smith via Talk]

Ok, thanks, got it.
Don


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Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Hi Don

The shift key is no good to you in browse mode.  All you need to do is
press F8 at the biginning of the selection, and then arrow down, or page
down, or use any means you like to get to the end of the selection, and
press F8 again.  This is with browse mode turned on remember.
Conventional selection will work inside edit boxes with browse mode
turned off.

-- 
Reg


On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:57:32 -0400
Don Smith via Talk  wrote:

> Hi Folks:
> 
>  
> 
> Could somebody clarify for me the difference between shiftand arrows keys
> selecting text and f8 at the beginning of text and f8 at the end of text you
> want selected:
> 
>  
> 
> It seems both work but in different situations
> 
>  
> 
> Also, I note that not always f8 at beginning of text and  f8 again will
> select the text from beginning to end..  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Don
> 
>  
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RE: selecting text and f8 key

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

Control-A and Control-C to select all and copy worked for me while in Browse 
Mode. I tested this out using Internet Explorer 11, Windows 8.1 and Window-Eyes 
9.4.
Best,
Marc

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On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:24 PM
To: Don Smith <dsmith1...@cogeco.ca>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key

Shift-down arrow only works when browse mode is off.  Do not press f8 if 
browse mode is off.  I'm not sure if control-a, followed by control-c 
work when browse mode is on.  How much text do you want to select?

On 7/14/2016 12:57 PM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
>
>
> Could somebody clarify for me the difference between shiftand arrows keys
> selecting text and f8 at the beginning of text and f8 at the end of text you
> want selected:
>
>
>
> It seems both work but in different situations
>
>
>
> Also, I note that not always f8 at beginning of text and  f8 again will
> select the text from beginning to end..
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Don
>
>
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RE: selecting text and f8 key

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

Don,
Here is a knowledge base article that explains the F8 text selection for Browse 
Mode: www.gwmicro.com/kb2064. There is a link in the article to an MP3 audio 
demonstration of using this functionality. If you are not in Browse Mode, use 
the traditional text selection techniques that use Shift and cursor keys (e.g. 
Up Arrow, Down Arrow, Left Arrow, Right Arrow, Home, End, etc.).
Best,
Marc

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On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:58 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: selecting text and f8 key

Hi Folks:

 

Could somebody clarify for me the difference between shiftand arrows keys
selecting text and f8 at the beginning of text and f8 at the end of text you
want selected:

 

It seems both work but in different situations

 

Also, I note that not always f8 at beginning of text and  f8 again will
select the text from beginning to end..  

 

Thanks

Don

 

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Re: selecting text and f8 key

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Shift-down arrow only works when browse mode is off.  Do not press f8 if 
browse mode is off.  I'm not sure if control-a, followed by control-c 
work when browse mode is on.  How much text do you want to select?

On 7/14/2016 12:57 PM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
>
>
> Could somebody clarify for me the difference between shiftand arrows keys
> selecting text and f8 at the beginning of text and f8 at the end of text you
> want selected:
>
>
>
> It seems both work but in different situations
>
>
>
> Also, I note that not always f8 at beginning of text and  f8 again will
> select the text from beginning to end..
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Don
>
>
>
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Re: selecting text

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

No rod, no questions here. Looks like I got this one figured out a while 
ago. As I say, I really like this selection arrangement. With a bit of 
adjustment regarding a matter mentioned in a previous post by the guys 
at AI Squared, it would almost be perfect.


On 1/13/2016 9:35 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Larry,

Did we get this cleared up, or do you have lingering questions?

Thanks,

Rod

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Sent: January 13, 2016 8:17 PM
To: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: selecting text

Sorry, just forgot to mention the brows factor. I guess I just assumed
that was a given, but that's what I get for assuming .

Thanks,

Larry

On 1/13/2016 6:42 PM, Tom Kingston wrote:

You're correct, Larry. The only thing I would add is that you can move
to the beginning and end of the text you want to select using any
browse mode method, ie. Home to beginning of line, End to end of line,
Control-Home, Control-End, and any other browse mode hot keys. This is
because F8 is only applicable while within browse mode; nowhere else.
And this is where it can get confusing.

Let's say you're on a web page. F8 is the only selection method while
in browse mode. Then you exit browse mode and enter an edit box.
You're no longer in browse mode and F8 does not apply. Standard
Shifted key selection must be used here. The same goes for reading and
replying to email messages, assuming your email client displays
messages in browse mode.

Hth,
Tom


On 1/13/2016 7:29 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

Just a slight correction, or maybe a clarification.

You need to locate the first character you wish to select, then press
F8, then arrow to the last character you wish to select, then press F8
again, and then you will be presented with your options from which to
choose.

One thing you might also remember, that if you should use the ctrl key
to select by word, that you will need to select the last word one letter
at a time. If this isn't actually true, someone please let me know, but
this little quirk had me confused for a while until either I figured it
out, or came to just accept the inconvenient of it all.

On the whole I've really come to like the  F8 arrangement, because you
can select from between headers in Web pages, or much of the time in my
case, Bookshare DAISY books, and not have to worry about losing any of
the text by pressing either header keys or tabs. It just works so
beautifully so far.

On 1/13/2016 6:08 PM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:

Jed.  Ok.  Use the arrow keys to find the beginning of the text you
want to
select.  Press the right arrow key until you come to the end of the
text you
want to select.  Now press the f8 key.  You will be presented with
three
choices.  The first choice is copy plain text, and the other choices
are
copy text with formatting, and the third choice is to reset selected
text or
something like that.  Once you pick the plain text button, and if
that is
the selection you want, press the enter key.  Then you'll have to find
the
document in which you want to paste the selected text.  Press the
ctrl-v key
combo.  I hope I didn't leave anything out, smile.  If I did, feel
free to
jump in here, smile.

Mike M.

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Subject: selecting text

Hey guys,
In we 9.3, how do i do this text selection thing with f8?
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Re: selecting text

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Just a slight correction, or maybe a clarification.

You need to locate the first character you wish to select, then press 
F8, then arrow to the last character you wish to select, then press F8 
again, and then you will be presented with your options from which to 
choose.


One thing you might also remember, that if you should use the ctrl key 
to select by word, that you will need to select the last word one letter 
at a time. If this isn't actually true, someone please let me know, but 
this little quirk had me confused for a while until either I figured it 
out, or came to just accept the inconvenient of it all.


On the whole I've really come to like the  F8 arrangement, because you 
can select from between headers in Web pages, or much of the time in my 
case, Bookshare DAISY books, and not have to worry about losing any of 
the text by pressing either header keys or tabs. It just works so 
beautifully so far.


On 1/13/2016 6:08 PM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:

Jed.  Ok.  Use the arrow keys to find the beginning of the text you want to
select.  Press the right arrow key until you come to the end of the text you
want to select.  Now press the f8 key.  You will be presented with three
choices.  The first choice is copy plain text, and the other choices are
copy text with formatting, and the third choice is to reset selected text or
something like that.  Once you pick the plain text button, and if that is
the selection you want, press the enter key.  Then you'll have to find the
document in which you want to paste the selected text.  Press the ctrl-v key
combo.  I hope I didn't leave anything out, smile.  If I did, feel free to
jump in here, smile.

Mike M.

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Subject: selecting text

Hey guys,
In we 9.3, how do i do this text selection thing with f8?
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RE: selecting text

[Michael Massey via Talk]

Jed.  Ok.  Use the arrow keys to find the beginning of the text you want to
select.  Press the right arrow key until you come to the end of the text you
want to select.  Now press the f8 key.  You will be presented with three
choices.  The first choice is copy plain text, and the other choices are
copy text with formatting, and the third choice is to reset selected text or
something like that.  Once you pick the plain text button, and if that is
the selection you want, press the enter key.  Then you'll have to find the
document in which you want to paste the selected text.  Press the ctrl-v key
combo.  I hope I didn't leave anything out, smile.  If I did, feel free to
jump in here, smile.  

Mike M. 

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Re: selecting text

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Rod, that's absolutely right. I guess it didn't occur to me to mention 
that because I usually find myself either selecting a word or name when 
reading a Web page. I might wish to Google either one, and kinda find 
this a bit annoying since I usually don't need to work to the end of a 
line. Not that I wont, and the home and end keys really do come in 
handy, but it sure would be nice if that could be modified in a future 
upgrade. But who knows, there might be a good reason unbeknownst to me 
to just keep it the way it is.



On 1/13/2016 6:40 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Larry,

I totally agree with your note about selecting the end position.
If you're selecting up to the last character on the line, then you could use
the End key, or drop down to the next line, press Home and it's pretty much
the same.

Hth,

Rod

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Sent: January 13, 2016 7:29 PM
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<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; j...@jedbarton.com; 'Jed Barton'
<jedbar...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text

Just a slight correction, or maybe a clarification.

You need to locate the first character you wish to select, then press
F8, then arrow to the last character you wish to select, then press F8
again, and then you will be presented with your options from which to
choose.

One thing you might also remember, that if you should use the ctrl key
to select by word, that you will need to select the last word one letter
at a time. If this isn't actually true, someone please let me know, but
this little quirk had me confused for a while until either I figured it
out, or came to just accept the inconvenient of it all.

On the whole I've really come to like the  F8 arrangement, because you
can select from between headers in Web pages, or much of the time in my
case, Bookshare DAISY books, and not have to worry about losing any of
the text by pressing either header keys or tabs. It just works so
beautifully so far.

On 1/13/2016 6:08 PM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:

Jed.  Ok.  Use the arrow keys to find the beginning of the text you want

to

select.  Press the right arrow key until you come to the end of the text

you

want to select.  Now press the f8 key.  You will be presented with three
choices.  The first choice is copy plain text, and the other choices are
copy text with formatting, and the third choice is to reset selected text

or

something like that.  Once you pick the plain text button, and if that is
the selection you want, press the enter key.  Then you'll have to find the
document in which you want to paste the selected text.  Press the ctrl-v

key

combo.  I hope I didn't leave anything out, smile.  If I did, feel free to
jump in here, smile.

Mike M.

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Subject: selecting text

Hey guys,
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Re: selecting text

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

You're correct, Larry. The only thing I would add is that you can move 
to the beginning and end of the text you want to select using any browse 
mode method, ie. Home to beginning of line, End to end of line, 
Control-Home, Control-End, and any other browse mode hot keys. This is 
because F8 is only applicable while within browse mode; nowhere else. 
And this is where it can get confusing.


Let's say you're on a web page. F8 is the only selection method while in 
browse mode. Then you exit browse mode and enter an edit box. You're no 
longer in browse mode and F8 does not apply. Standard Shifted key 
selection must be used here. The same goes for reading and replying to 
email messages, assuming your email client displays messages in browse mode.


Hth,
Tom


On 1/13/2016 7:29 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

Just a slight correction, or maybe a clarification.

You need to locate the first character you wish to select, then press
F8, then arrow to the last character you wish to select, then press F8
again, and then you will be presented with your options from which to
choose.

One thing you might also remember, that if you should use the ctrl key
to select by word, that you will need to select the last word one letter
at a time. If this isn't actually true, someone please let me know, but
this little quirk had me confused for a while until either I figured it
out, or came to just accept the inconvenient of it all.

On the whole I've really come to like the  F8 arrangement, because you
can select from between headers in Web pages, or much of the time in my
case, Bookshare DAISY books, and not have to worry about losing any of
the text by pressing either header keys or tabs. It just works so
beautifully so far.

On 1/13/2016 6:08 PM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:

Jed.  Ok.  Use the arrow keys to find the beginning of the text you
want to
select.  Press the right arrow key until you come to the end of the
text you
want to select.  Now press the f8 key.  You will be presented with three
choices.  The first choice is copy plain text, and the other choices are
copy text with formatting, and the third choice is to reset selected
text or
something like that.  Once you pick the plain text button, and if that is
the selection you want, press the enter key.  Then you'll have to find
the
document in which you want to paste the selected text.  Press the
ctrl-v key
combo.  I hope I didn't leave anything out, smile.  If I did, feel
free to
jump in here, smile.

Mike M.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:50 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: selecting text

Hey guys,
In we 9.3, how do i do this text selection thing with f8?
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RE: selecting text

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Larry,

I totally agree with your note about selecting the end position.
If you're selecting up to the last character on the line, then you could use
the End key, or drop down to the next line, press Home and it's pretty much
the same.

Hth,

Rod

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Subject: Re: selecting text

Just a slight correction, or maybe a clarification.

You need to locate the first character you wish to select, then press 
F8, then arrow to the last character you wish to select, then press F8 
again, and then you will be presented with your options from which to 
choose.

One thing you might also remember, that if you should use the ctrl key 
to select by word, that you will need to select the last word one letter 
at a time. If this isn't actually true, someone please let me know, but 
this little quirk had me confused for a while until either I figured it 
out, or came to just accept the inconvenient of it all.

On the whole I've really come to like the  F8 arrangement, because you 
can select from between headers in Web pages, or much of the time in my 
case, Bookshare DAISY books, and not have to worry about losing any of 
the text by pressing either header keys or tabs. It just works so 
beautifully so far.

On 1/13/2016 6:08 PM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
> Jed.  Ok.  Use the arrow keys to find the beginning of the text you want
to
> select.  Press the right arrow key until you come to the end of the text
you
> want to select.  Now press the f8 key.  You will be presented with three
> choices.  The first choice is copy plain text, and the other choices are
> copy text with formatting, and the third choice is to reset selected text
or
> something like that.  Once you pick the plain text button, and if that is
> the selection you want, press the enter key.  Then you'll have to find the
> document in which you want to paste the selected text.  Press the ctrl-v
key
> combo.  I hope I didn't leave anything out, smile.  If I did, feel free to
> jump in here, smile.
>
> Mike M.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:50 PM
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> Subject: selecting text
>
> Hey guys,
> In we 9.3, how do i do this text selection thing with f8?
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Re: selecting text

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Sorry, just forgot to mention the brows factor. I guess I just assumed 
that was a given, but that's what I get for assuming .


Thanks,

Larry

On 1/13/2016 6:42 PM, Tom Kingston wrote:
You're correct, Larry. The only thing I would add is that you can move 
to the beginning and end of the text you want to select using any 
browse mode method, ie. Home to beginning of line, End to end of line, 
Control-Home, Control-End, and any other browse mode hot keys. This is 
because F8 is only applicable while within browse mode; nowhere else. 
And this is where it can get confusing.


Let's say you're on a web page. F8 is the only selection method while 
in browse mode. Then you exit browse mode and enter an edit box. 
You're no longer in browse mode and F8 does not apply. Standard 
Shifted key selection must be used here. The same goes for reading and 
replying to email messages, assuming your email client displays 
messages in browse mode.


Hth,
Tom


On 1/13/2016 7:29 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

Just a slight correction, or maybe a clarification.

You need to locate the first character you wish to select, then press
F8, then arrow to the last character you wish to select, then press F8
again, and then you will be presented with your options from which to
choose.

One thing you might also remember, that if you should use the ctrl key
to select by word, that you will need to select the last word one letter
at a time. If this isn't actually true, someone please let me know, but
this little quirk had me confused for a while until either I figured it
out, or came to just accept the inconvenient of it all.

On the whole I've really come to like the  F8 arrangement, because you
can select from between headers in Web pages, or much of the time in my
case, Bookshare DAISY books, and not have to worry about losing any of
the text by pressing either header keys or tabs. It just works so
beautifully so far.

On 1/13/2016 6:08 PM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:

Jed.  Ok.  Use the arrow keys to find the beginning of the text you
want to
select.  Press the right arrow key until you come to the end of the
text you
want to select.  Now press the f8 key.  You will be presented with 
three
choices.  The first choice is copy plain text, and the other choices 
are

copy text with formatting, and the third choice is to reset selected
text or
something like that.  Once you pick the plain text button, and if 
that is

the selection you want, press the enter key.  Then you'll have to find
the
document in which you want to paste the selected text.  Press the
ctrl-v key
combo.  I hope I didn't leave anything out, smile.  If I did, feel
free to
jump in here, smile.

Mike M.

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Subject: selecting text

Hey guys,
In we 9.3, how do i do this text selection thing with f8?
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RE: selecting text

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Larry,

Did we get this cleared up, or do you have lingering questions?

Thanks,

Rod

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Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: January 13, 2016 8:17 PM
To: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: selecting text

Sorry, just forgot to mention the brows factor. I guess I just assumed 
that was a given, but that's what I get for assuming .

Thanks,

Larry

On 1/13/2016 6:42 PM, Tom Kingston wrote:
> You're correct, Larry. The only thing I would add is that you can move 
> to the beginning and end of the text you want to select using any 
> browse mode method, ie. Home to beginning of line, End to end of line, 
> Control-Home, Control-End, and any other browse mode hot keys. This is 
> because F8 is only applicable while within browse mode; nowhere else. 
> And this is where it can get confusing.
>
> Let's say you're on a web page. F8 is the only selection method while 
> in browse mode. Then you exit browse mode and enter an edit box. 
> You're no longer in browse mode and F8 does not apply. Standard 
> Shifted key selection must be used here. The same goes for reading and 
> replying to email messages, assuming your email client displays 
> messages in browse mode.
>
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
> On 1/13/2016 7:29 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>> Just a slight correction, or maybe a clarification.
>>
>> You need to locate the first character you wish to select, then press
>> F8, then arrow to the last character you wish to select, then press F8
>> again, and then you will be presented with your options from which to
>> choose.
>>
>> One thing you might also remember, that if you should use the ctrl key
>> to select by word, that you will need to select the last word one letter
>> at a time. If this isn't actually true, someone please let me know, but
>> this little quirk had me confused for a while until either I figured it
>> out, or came to just accept the inconvenient of it all.
>>
>> On the whole I've really come to like the  F8 arrangement, because you
>> can select from between headers in Web pages, or much of the time in my
>> case, Bookshare DAISY books, and not have to worry about losing any of
>> the text by pressing either header keys or tabs. It just works so
>> beautifully so far.
>>
>> On 1/13/2016 6:08 PM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
>>> Jed.  Ok.  Use the arrow keys to find the beginning of the text you
>>> want to
>>> select.  Press the right arrow key until you come to the end of the
>>> text you
>>> want to select.  Now press the f8 key.  You will be presented with 
>>> three
>>> choices.  The first choice is copy plain text, and the other choices 
>>> are
>>> copy text with formatting, and the third choice is to reset selected
>>> text or
>>> something like that.  Once you pick the plain text button, and if 
>>> that is
>>> the selection you want, press the enter key.  Then you'll have to find
>>> the
>>> document in which you want to paste the selected text.  Press the
>>> ctrl-v key
>>> combo.  I hope I didn't leave anything out, smile.  If I did, feel
>>> free to
>>> jump in here, smile.
>>>
>>> Mike M.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Talk 
>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:50 PM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>> Subject: selecting text
>>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>> In we 9.3, how do i do this text selection thing with f8?
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RE: selecting text

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Hear herar, I also love it.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:59 AM
To: Sonya Ergle; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: selecting text

Sonya, one Caveat, this method only works in files where brows mode is 
used, otherwise you can use the old shift+arrow keys to perform this 
function.

At first, you might wonder why this should be so necessary, or at least 
convenient. One way I find this method to be useful is when I wish to 
select text from a web page, say from header to header or from link to 
link. The F8 method locks the selection in place so that you don't have 
to move manually through so much text in order to make that selection. 
You don't even have to worry about accidentally losing your selected 
text along the way, which can get quite frustrating. Instead, you can 
just press the h or shift+h keys and voila, you have made your 
selection, and you can once again press the F8 key where there will be a 
dialog box with the option to copy the text to the clipboard where from 
there you can copy your selected text to an  editor or what ever. I 
really hope the people at I Squared never do away with this new method 
of selecting because it works so well, even though occasionally I forget 
to press the button to copy selected text to the clipboard.

On 12/7/2015 12:13 AM, Sonya Ergle via Talk wrote:
> I’m using Windows 10 and Window-Eyes 9.2. What are the key strokes for 
> selecting text? thank you
> Sonya
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Re: selecting text

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Sonya, one Caveat, this method only works in files where brows mode is 
used, otherwise you can use the old shift+arrow keys to perform this 
function.


At first, you might wonder why this should be so necessary, or at least 
convenient. One way I find this method to be useful is when I wish to 
select text from a web page, say from header to header or from link to 
link. The F8 method locks the selection in place so that you don't have 
to move manually through so much text in order to make that selection. 
You don't even have to worry about accidentally losing your selected 
text along the way, which can get quite frustrating. Instead, you can 
just press the h or shift+h keys and voila, you have made your 
selection, and you can once again press the F8 key where there will be a 
dialog box with the option to copy the text to the clipboard where from 
there you can copy your selected text to an  editor or what ever. I 
really hope the people at I Squared never do away with this new method 
of selecting because it works so well, even though occasionally I forget 
to press the button to copy selected text to the clipboard.


On 12/7/2015 12:13 AM, Sonya Ergle via Talk wrote:

I’m using Windows 10 and Window-Eyes 9.2. What are the key strokes for 
selecting text? thank you
Sonya
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Re: Selecting text using Word Pad

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Well it sure doesn't work here, and I've checked set file associations, 
and that is correct.


I did Take Net Bat's  suggestion and just save the file to .txt rather 
than .rtf, and as it opened up in Note Pad, I was then able to select  
using the shift-arrow combination, and it worked like a charm, or at 
least the way it is supposed too.


On 11/3/2015 11:21 AM, Dave Basden wrote:
I'm using Windows 7 and the usual method of selecting text by holding 
down the shift key and moving the cursor using the standard arrow keys 
(not the keypad arrow keys) works for me.


Dave


At 06:20 AM 11/3/2015, you wrote:

Hi Listers,

It's been a while, but here goes.

/Could someone please tell me if it is possible to select text for 
cutting and pasting in Word Pad? It appears not to be doable here.


I've been trying to do this the standard way, by using the shift 
arrow keys, but to no avail. At At first, I thought that WE 9.2 just 
refused to read the selected text, but now I find that WP just 
doesn't carry out the process. I am using WP to  accomplish what I 
consider small tasks, like in this case, keeping a listing of 
recommended books for a friend which includes annotations, or maybe 
for future downloading from Bookshare and the like.


I  know I could use MSWord, but I really don't wish to open up such a 
large program for such off handed and small task. Just a hangup of 
mine I guess.


But if any one could please help me with this one I would really 
appreciate it. This issue has been driving me a bit nuts for a while.



Thanks ,

Larry
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Re: Selecting text using Word Pad

[net bat via Talk]

w e can not read rtf files because this is a graphic format.
it has to be saved in txt or doc format before it can read them.

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 9:35 AM
To: Dave Basden ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Selecting text using Word Pad

Well it sure doesn't work here, and I've checked set file associations,
and that is correct.

I did Take Net Bat's  suggestion and just save the file to .txt rather
than .rtf, and as it opened up in Note Pad, I was then able to select
using the shift-arrow combination, and it worked like a charm, or at
least the way it is supposed too.

On 11/3/2015 11:21 AM, Dave Basden wrote:
I'm using Windows 7 and the usual method of selecting text by holding down 
the shift key and moving the cursor using the standard arrow keys (not the 
keypad arrow keys) works for me.


Dave


At 06:20 AM 11/3/2015, you wrote:

Hi Listers,

It's been a while, but here goes.

/Could someone please tell me if it is possible to select text for cutting 
and pasting in Word Pad? It appears not to be doable here.


I've been trying to do this the standard way, by using the shift arrow keys, 
but to no avail. At At first, I thought that WE 9.2 just refused to read the 
selected text, but now I find that WP just doesn't carry out the process. I 
am using WP to  accomplish what I consider small tasks, like in this case, 
keeping a listing of recommended books for a friend which includes 
annotations, or maybe for future downloading from Bookshare and the like.


I  know I could use MSWord, but I really don't wish to open up such a large 
program for such off handed and small task. Just a hangup of mine I guess.


But if any one could please help me with this one I would really appreciate 
it. This issue has been driving me a bit nuts for a while.



Thanks ,

Larry
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Re: Selecting text using Word Pad

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

don't you mean *.pdf files?

At 09:53 AM 11/3/2015, you wrote:

w e can not read rtf files because this is a graphic format.
it has to be saved in txt or doc format before it can read them.

-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 9:35 AM
To: Dave Basden ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Selecting text using Word Pad

Well it sure doesn't work here, and I've checked set file associations,
and that is correct.

I did Take Net Bat's  suggestion and just save the file to .txt rather
than .rtf, and as it opened up in Note Pad, I was then able to select
using the shift-arrow combination, and it worked like a charm, or at
least the way it is supposed too.

On 11/3/2015 11:21 AM, Dave Basden wrote:
I'm using Windows 7 and the usual method of selecting text by 
holding down the shift key and moving the cursor using the standard 
arrow keys (not the keypad arrow keys) works for me.


Dave


At 06:20 AM 11/3/2015, you wrote:

Hi Listers,

It's been a while, but here goes.

/Could someone please tell me if it is possible to select text for 
cutting and pasting in Word Pad? It appears not to be doable here.


I've been trying to do this the standard way, by using the shift 
arrow keys, but to no avail. At At first, I thought that WE 9.2 
just refused to read the selected text, but now I find that WP 
just doesn't carry out the process. I am using WP to  accomplish 
what I consider small tasks, like in this case, keeping a listing 
of recommended books for a friend which includes annotations, or 
maybe for future downloading from Bookshare and the like.


I  know I could use MSWord, but I really don't wish to open up 
such a large program for such off handed and small task. Just a 
hangup of mine I guess.


But if any one could please help me with this one I would really 
appreciate it. This issue has been driving me a bit nuts for a while.



Thanks ,

Larry
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Re: Selecting text using Word Pad

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Neither PDF or RTF are graphic formats. PDF files can be scanned images. 
But most are not. RTF (rich text format) is essentially a scaled down 
version of Doc or a revved up version of Txt, depending on how you want 
to look at it.


I never use Wordpad. But I tried it here on Windows 10. Selection works 
fine. The problem is that the text that is selected does not change 
color. So Window-Eyes has no way of knowing it is selected. At least 
that's what happened here. I was able to cut, copy, and paste. But the 
selected text was never voiced when selecting due to no color change.


Tom


On 11/3/2015 1:05 PM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote:

don't you mean *.pdf files?

At 09:53 AM 11/3/2015, you wrote:

w e can not read rtf files because this is a graphic format.
it has to be saved in txt or doc format before it can read them.

-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 9:35 AM
To: Dave Basden ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Selecting text using Word Pad

Well it sure doesn't work here, and I've checked set file associations,
and that is correct.

I did Take Net Bat's  suggestion and just save the file to .txt rather
than .rtf, and as it opened up in Note Pad, I was then able to select
using the shift-arrow combination, and it worked like a charm, or at
least the way it is supposed too.

On 11/3/2015 11:21 AM, Dave Basden wrote:

I'm using Windows 7 and the usual method of selecting text by holding
down the shift key and moving the cursor using the standard arrow
keys (not the keypad arrow keys) works for me.

Dave


At 06:20 AM 11/3/2015, you wrote:

Hi Listers,

It's been a while, but here goes.

/Could someone please tell me if it is possible to select text for
cutting and pasting in Word Pad? It appears not to be doable here.

I've been trying to do this the standard way, by using the shift
arrow keys, but to no avail. At At first, I thought that WE 9.2 just
refused to read the selected text, but now I find that WP just
doesn't carry out the process. I am using WP to  accomplish what I
consider small tasks, like in this case, keeping a listing of
recommended books for a friend which includes annotations, or maybe
for future downloading from Bookshare and the like.

I  know I could use MSWord, but I really don't wish to open up such
a large program for such off handed and small task. Just a hangup of
mine I guess.

But if any one could please help me with this one I would really
appreciate it. This issue has been driving me a bit nuts for a while.


Thanks ,

Larry
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Re: Selecting text using Word Pad

[net bat via Talk]

sorry.
i have only used wordpad when useing print screen to send to gw for anaylisis
these are also rtf files and are all graphics and can not be read with wineyes.
but useing copy and paste from web pages did work with both wordpad and
notepad.

useing
-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins

Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 10:05 AM
To: net bat
Subject: Re: Selecting text using Word Pad



Now now Net Bat, surely you are kidding. WE definitely reads .rtf files,
that is how I realized that selecting text wouldn't work. I can delete
single characters by using either the del or backspace keys, heck I can
even type in text, so that can't be entirely true.

Can you explain just what you mean?
On 11/3/2015 11:53 AM, net bat wrote:

w e can not read rtf files because this is a graphic format.
it has to be saved in txt or doc format before it can read them.

-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 9:35 AM
To: Dave Basden ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Selecting text using Word Pad

Well it sure doesn't work here, and I've checked set file associations,
and that is correct.

I did Take Net Bat's  suggestion and just save the file to .txt rather
than .rtf, and as it opened up in Note Pad, I was then able to select
using the shift-arrow combination, and it worked like a charm, or at
least the way it is supposed too.

On 11/3/2015 11:21 AM, Dave Basden wrote:
I'm using Windows 7 and the usual method of selecting text by holding down 
the shift key and moving the cursor using the standard arrow keys (not the 
keypad arrow keys) works for me.


Dave


At 06:20 AM 11/3/2015, you wrote:

Hi Listers,

It's been a while, but here goes.

/Could someone please tell me if it is possible to select text for cutting 
and pasting in Word Pad? It appears not to be doable here.


I've been trying to do this the standard way, by using the shift arrow 
keys, but to no avail. At At first, I thought that WE 9.2 just refused to 
read the selected text, but now I find that WP just doesn't carry out the 
process. I am using WP to accomplish what I consider small tasks, like in 
this case, keeping a listing of recommended books for a friend which 
includes annotations, or maybe for future downloading from Bookshare and 
the like.


I  know I could use MSWord, but I really don't wish to open up such a large 
program for such off handed and small task. Just a hangup of mine I guess.


But if any one could please help me with this one I would really appreciate 
it. This issue has been driving me a bit nuts for a while.



Thanks ,

Larry
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Re: Selecting text for coppying from a web page

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Read the ReadMe, Bill the lazy bum! grin. Okay. I'll do it for you.
To select text in the new Browse Mode system, first locate the spot 
where you want selection to begin, and press F8. Window-Eyes will say, 
selection start. Next, move to the location where you wish selection 
to stop, and press F8 again. This time, a dialog box will open 
containing three buttons:


 - Copy -- When activated, copies the selection to the clipboard. 
You can then paste it into another application, such as Notepad or 
Microsoft Word. Note that pasting into a simple text editor like Notepad 
will merely cause the text of the selected content to appear, whereas 
pasting into a full-fledged word processor like Microsoft Word will 
retain all text formatting and images that are contained in the selection.
 - Reset Selection Start -- When activated, sets the start of the 
selection to the current Browse Mode location.

 - Cancel -- When activated, closes the dialog without doing anything.

Note that this new selection command mirrors how a fully sighted 
computer user would highlight text with the mouse. In fact, the 
selection will be visible on screen just as if a physical mouse was used 
rather than F8. Note that in Thunderbird, selecting text works 
identically to Internet Explorer and Firefox except that there is no 
visual indication that one has taken place. This hot key, which is 
called Select Content, can also be changed in the Hot Keys - Browse 
Mode section of the Window-Eyes control panel. In addition, 
Control-Shift-M will speak the current selection. Finally, be aware that 
Window-Eyes will announce whether the copy operation was successful.


Tom


On 2/21/2015 2:24 PM, Bill Scherer via Talk wrote:

Using window-Eyes 9. Did the way to select from a web page change in
window-eyes 9?

For some reason shift-control end doesn't work if I want to select the page.

Bill



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