Re: [Talk-hr] OSM radionica petak(ako ste vec na CUCu)
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[Talk-hr] Fwd: Italian place names in Croatia
Prosljeđujem na grupu, izgleda da su opet problemi sa dvojezicnim nazivima u Istri. Original Message Subject: Italian place names in Croatia Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:30:22 +0100 Hi, I see you are from Croatia, right? I just wanted to notify you that user Linusbolzano is currently messing around with place names in Croatia (first only in Istria, but now even in Dalmatia). He is already causing some troubles in other regions, so I'd suggest to pay some attention here, too. I've already posted this on the Croatian OSM forum [1], but the community doesn't seem to be very active there. Maybe you can inform the local community? Best wishes, Martin [1] http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=23925 ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[OSM-talk-be] (geen onderwerp)
Welk is de goede manier om een knuppelpad te taggen. Ik bedoel dus die wegjes die gemaakt zijn met planken en iets boven water of modder uitsteken. Ik gebruikte: Bridge = yes, surface = wood. Guy Vanvuchelen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] (geen onderwerp)
On 19-01-14 15:13, Guy Vanvuchelen wrote: Welk is de goede manier om een knuppelpad te taggen. Ik bedoel dus die wegjes die gemaakt zijn met planken en iets boven water of modder uitsteken. Ik gebruikte: Bridge = yes, surface = wood. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bridge_types In het engels is het een 'boardwalk' Mvg, Glenn -- The program isn't debugged until the last user is dead. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia
I'd still suggest addr:city=Brisbane addr:suburb=The Gap This follows the full addressing, I don't know if there is any other suburb The Gap but imagine two suburbs A_suburb in two different cites A_city and B_city in the same state in the same country. The if you put: addr:city=A_suburb addr:state=state addr:country=country Then which one are you talking about. Where as if you put: addr:suburb=A_suburb addr:city=A_city or B_city addr:state=state addr:country=country Then it's immediately apparent which is which. Just my thoughts. Cheers Ross On 19/01/14 13:00, Stéphane Guillou wrote: Thanks everyone for your input. I wonder what was the rationale behind using abbreviations for countries and states as I understood that the database must be as human-readable as possible. Still, I will be following the recommendations on the Key:addr page for addr:country=AU. However, I am still unsure about suburb vs city. Key:addr tells us to watch out for the Australian definition of suburbs, and Wikipedia says the following: In Australia and New Zealand, suburbs have become formalised as geographic subdivisions of a city and are used by postal services in *addressing*. As we are here tagging the address, I was wondering: are we tagging so the addresses appear as they should when we use them (e.g. when we write them on an envelope) - the original point of tagging an address I guess - (in which case I would just go with addr:city=The Gap), or should we understand the tags as literally as possible (in that case, I would go addr:city=Brisbane and addr:suburb=The Gap). What would be the best way to decide on a convention so we can add guidelines for OSM-AU? Cheers Stéphane (chtfn) On 19/01/14 11:04, Ross Scanlon wrote: I'd suggest you check this page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr You'll see that the addr:country is supposed to be: The ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 two letter country code in upper case. We are talking addresses not is_in. Also addr:state can be either but it tends to be the abbreviation. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia
Hi. I think in Australia, as far as gazetted places go, suburb=town, but for these, you can derive it if the suburb has an admin boundary. City is not gazetted. E.g. Sydney is a suburb. An address in nearby Pyrmont is not in Sydney (the suburb), so saying it is in a city called Sydney might be confusing. - Ben Kelley. On 19 Jan 2014 14:01, Stéphane Guillou stephane.guil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for your input. I wonder what was the rationale behind using abbreviations for countries and states as I understood that the database must be as human-readable as possible. Still, I will be following the recommendations on the Key:addr page for addr:country=AU. However, I am still unsure about suburb vs city. Key:addr tells us to watch out for the Australian definition of suburbs, and Wikipedia says the following: In Australia and New Zealand, suburbs have become formalised as geographic subdivisions of a city and are used by postal services in * addressing*. As we are here tagging the address, I was wondering: are we tagging so the addresses appear as they should when we use them (e.g. when we write them on an envelope) - the original point of tagging an address I guess - (in which case I would just go with addr:city=The Gap), or should we understand the tags as literally as possible (in that case, I would go addr:city=Brisbane and addr:suburb=The Gap). What would be the best way to decide on a convention so we can add guidelines for OSM-AU? Cheers Stéphane (chtfn) On 19/01/14 11:04, Ross Scanlon wrote: I'd suggest you check this page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr You'll see that the addr:country is supposed to be: The ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 two letter country code in upper case. We are talking addresses not is_in. Also addr:state can be either but it tends to be the abbreviation. Cheers Ross On 19/01/14 09:42, cleary wrote: I prefer state=Queensland state_code=QLD country=Australia country_code=AU which I understand is consistent with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in While there is scope for abbreviations in certain special identified categories, the norm remains that names written in full. It seems to me that the state, state_code, country and country_code tags make adequate provision for both. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia
On 19/01/2014 8:48 PM, Ben Kelley wrote: Hi. I think in Australia, as far as gazetted places go, suburb=town, but for these, you can derive it if the suburb has an admin boundary. City is not gazetted. E.g. Sydney is a suburb. An address in nearby Pyrmont is not in Sydney (the suburb), so saying it is in a city called Sydney might be confusing. - Ben Kelley. Perhaps better to deal with it as a county/shire issue? As we are british based then this may be of some assistance? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/English_Counties This should separate any two suburbs of the same name (I hope!). Unfortunately these are not in common use here (unlike britain) so may not be helpful for general navigation. As for the post office - I'd think they use the post code first rather than the city/suburb. I'd think the OS Map is for navigation, not for the post office? So it should make sense in a navigational way? On 19 Jan 2014 14:01, Stéphane Guillou stephane.guil...@gmail.com mailto:stephane.guil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for your input. I wonder what was the rationale behind using abbreviations for countries and states as I understood that the database must be as human-readable as possible. Still, I will be following the recommendations on the Key:addr page for addr:country=AU. However, I am still unsure about suburb vs city. Key:addr tells us to watch out for the Australian definition of suburbs, and Wikipedia says the following: In Australia and New Zealand, suburbs have become formalised as geographic subdivisions of a city and are used by postal services in *addressing*. As we are here tagging the address, I was wondering: are we tagging so the addresses appear as they should when we use them (e.g. when we write them on an envelope) - the original point of tagging an address I guess - (in which case I would just go with addr:city=The Gap), or should we understand the tags as literally as possible (in that case, I would go addr:city=Brisbane and addr:suburb=The Gap). What would be the best way to decide on a convention so we can add guidelines for OSM-AU? Cheers Stéphane (chtfn) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia
Hi. There is an admin boundary level for local government areas. This is like a British county. Note that all these can be derived for an address simply by looking where the address node is. Is it inside the boundary for the country Australia? Then then the address is in Australia. No need to tag it as well. Same for suburb/town, LGA and state. The things you can't infer from an address's location are the street number, and which street it is associated with. The boundaries for state and country are well defined. Less so for town and LGA, but tools like Nominatum will use these boundaries to describe addresses where they are present. - Ben Kelley. On 20 Jan 2014 09:22, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/01/2014 8:48 PM, Ben Kelley wrote: Hi. I think in Australia, as far as gazetted places go, suburb=town, but for these, you can derive it if the suburb has an admin boundary. City is not gazetted. E.g. Sydney is a suburb. An address in nearby Pyrmont is not in Sydney (the suburb), so saying it is in a city called Sydney might be confusing. - Ben Kelley. Perhaps better to deal with it as a county/shire issue? As we are british based then this may be of some assistance? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/English_Counties This should separate any two suburbs of the same name (I hope!). Unfortunately these are not in common use here (unlike britain) so may not be helpful for general navigation. As for the post office - I'd think they use the post code first rather than the city/suburb. I'd think the OS Map is for navigation, not for the post office? So it should make sense in a navigational way? On 19 Jan 2014 14:01, Stéphane Guillou stephane.guil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for your input. I wonder what was the rationale behind using abbreviations for countries and states as I understood that the database must be as human-readable as possible. Still, I will be following the recommendations on the Key:addr page for addr:country=AU. However, I am still unsure about suburb vs city. Key:addr tells us to watch out for the Australian definition of suburbs, and Wikipedia says the following: In Australia and New Zealand, suburbs have become formalised as geographic subdivisions of a city and are used by postal services in * addressing*. As we are here tagging the address, I was wondering: are we tagging so the addresses appear as they should when we use them (e.g. when we write them on an envelope) - the original point of tagging an address I guess - (in which case I would just go with addr:city=The Gap), or should we understand the tags as literally as possible (in that case, I would go addr:city=Brisbane and addr:suburb=The Gap). What would be the best way to decide on a convention so we can add guidelines for OSM-AU? Cheers Stéphane (chtfn) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia
Thanks Ben and Warin for your input. So my understanding of it so far is that we could recommend to tag as follows: *addr:housenumber=*separated with semicolons if several, or range using a hyphen (current general addressing recommendations)* **addr:street=*full way name* */*addr:postcode=*/four-digit postcode /addr:suburb=//suburb name //addr:city=large conurbation (is this the right term?) e.g. Sydney, Melbourne// //addr:state=whole name (as general rule is to make it as human-readable as possible)// //addr:country=AU (country code as currently recommended)// / Housenumber and Street should be pointed out as the most important bits, as Ben explained. Tags in italic are the less important ones as they can be deduced from existing boundaries, and thus ignored to minimise a risk of confusion or inaccuracies. (?) I understand from this page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Import/Catalogue/ABS_Data that the suburb boundaries already exist. About Australian postcodes, the same page says that an older dataset was removed due to a change in licensing. Is there any postcode boundary data currently in use for Australia? Add:city is a particular case as I understand there is no official boundaries for those conurbations - am I getting this right, Ben? In that case, should we recommend users not to use this tag at all as it might end up being confusing? Cheers chtfn On 20/01/14 09:35, Ben Kelley wrote: Hi. There is an admin boundary level for local government areas. This is like a British county. Note that all these can be derived for an address simply by looking where the address node is. Is it inside the boundary for the country Australia? Then then the address is in Australia. No need to tag it as well. Same for suburb/town, LGA and state. The things you can't infer from an address's location are the street number, and which street it is associated with. The boundaries for state and country are well defined. Less so for town and LGA, but tools like Nominatum will use these boundaries to describe addresses where they are present. - Ben Kelley. On 20 Jan 2014 09:22, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/01/2014 8:48 PM, Ben Kelley wrote: Hi. I think in Australia, as far as gazetted places go, suburb=town, but for these, you can derive it if the suburb has an admin boundary. City is not gazetted. E.g. Sydney is a suburb. An address in nearby Pyrmont is not in Sydney (the suburb), so saying it is in a city called Sydney might be confusing. - Ben Kelley. Perhaps better to deal with it as a county/shire issue? As we are british based then this may be of some assistance? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/English_Counties This should separate any two suburbs of the same name (I hope!). Unfortunately these are not in common use here (unlike britain) so may not be helpful for general navigation. As for the post office - I'd think they use the post code first rather than the city/suburb. I'd think the OS Map is for navigation, not for the post office? So it should make sense in a navigational way? On 19 Jan 2014 14:01, Stéphane Guillou stephane.guil...@gmail.com mailto:stephane.guil...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for your input. I wonder what was the rationale behind using abbreviations for countries and states as I understood that the database must be as human-readable as possible. Still, I will be following the recommendations on the Key:addr page for addr:country=AU. However, I am still unsure about suburb vs city. Key:addr tells us to watch out for the Australian definition of suburbs, and Wikipedia says the following: In Australia and New Zealand, suburbs have become formalised as geographic subdivisions of a city and are used by postal services in *addressing*. As we are here tagging the address, I was wondering: are we tagging so the addresses appear as they should when we use them (e.g. when we write them on an envelope) - the original point of tagging an address I guess - (in which case I would just go with addr:city=The Gap), or should we understand the tags as literally as possible (in that case, I would go addr:city=Brisbane and addr:suburb=The Gap). What would be the best way to decide on a convention so we can add guidelines for OSM-AU? Cheers Stéphane (chtfn) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Pipeline / Way
Hi Folks,
Looking round at some of the 'empty' bits of the map I noticed the n-s
way http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33421267 that goes past the
airstrip YCSC ('compressor station 6) -- given the name of the
airstrip and the map on http://www.dbp.net.au/the-pipeline/about.aspx
is this a 'real' way or just the result of burying the pipeline?
Anyone with local knowledge? (and if so, how should it be tagged)
A
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Re: [talk-au] Pipeline / Way
On 20/01/2014 5:38 PM, Andrew Elwell wrote:
Hi Folks,
Looking round at some of the 'empty' bits of the map I noticed the n-s
way http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/33421267 that goes past the
airstrip YCSC ('compressor station 6) -- given the name of the
airstrip and the map on http://www.dbp.net.au/the-pipeline/about.aspx
is this a 'real' way or just the result of burying the pipeline?
Anyone with local knowledge? (and if so, how should it be tagged)
A
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I know in the east 'they' don't want you to use the tracks made for pipe
line nor fiber optic lines .. some of this may be legal liability, some
for potential damage to remote infrastructure. For potential users I've
found the fiber optic lines can have large rocks on the surface! Hidding
in the regrowth. I think the pipe line 'roads' are better. Yes the road
is a 'result' of laying the infrastructure .. as it is for railway
tracks too.
I'd tag as highway service? or track, access no, surface unpaved, 4WD
recomended ?
I know that in general service roads are short, but in this case?
Why map something 'we' cannot use? If you use a crossroad then it is a
handy navigation point, if it was not mapped then it can be confusing.
In general - where I'm maping from bing sat view I don't remember the
place I tag the 'road' as a track. If it joins with similar (as seen by
the sat) then I'll take the tagging off the road it joins.
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There is a pipeline tag with underground
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpipeline
Tag both pipeline + road?
PS No OSM tag for fiberoptic cable though ...
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Re: [Talk-br] [Cocar] Posto de Combustível
Mas é assim que está. No artigo da referência, cada termo em português possui diversas traduções possíveis, e a melhor (que nesse caso é posto de combustível) está marcada em negrito e as demais têm um comentário explicando por que não são tão adequadas. On Jan 19, 2014 4:12 PM, Wille wi...@wille.blog.br wrote: Fernando, Sugiro trocar Posto de Gasolina por Posto de Combustíveis. Márcio, A interface de edição dos postos de combustíveis do JOSM é muito boa. Lá você terá várias opções de combustíveis para marcar, bem como as principais bandeiras. abraços, wille On 16-01-2014 14:20, Fernando Trebien wrote: Esse comentário é relativo à tradução a ser adotada nos editores para o termo fuel station. Posto de gasolina faria você ficar em dúvida se fosse um eletroposto, por exemplo, e poderia deixar algumas pessoas em dúvida caso o posto não tivesse gasolina e sim exclusivamente outros combustívels, tais como diesel. (Mas se todos acharem melhor chamar tudo de posto de gasolina, por mim está ok. A tradução desse termo ainda não foi discutida por aqui, por enquanto o que consta ali é sugestão minha.) 2014/1/16 thunder...@gpsinfo.com.br: Amigos, confesso que até pesquisei, mas não encontrei referencia. No Tracksource empregamos para Posto de Combustível, no campo correspondente, o nome do posto (se existir), seguido da bandeira (Ipiranga, Shell, BR) e ainda seguido da sigla GNV se nele for oferecido esse combustível. O problema de se buscar pela informação ali contida fica a cargo do Conversor e quando eu tinha carro GNV essa informação me era de grande valia na busca por posto GNV mais próximo, ou até por bandeira quando decidia eu só abastecer em posto de bandeira Ipiranga para ganhar milhagem. Em http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Refer%C3%AAnciaa informação contida para “Fuel station” me deixou mais ainda em duvida quando lá é dito que “Compreensível, mas sugere que não há outros tipos de combustível além de gasolina”. No OSM tenho observado (não só no Brasil) formatações empregando-se polígono e/ou objeto (POI) e as mais variadas descrições do posto. Afinal qual o PADRÃO de formatação de um posto de combustível no OSM, em especial para o Brasil onde existe posto que fornece combustíveis alternativos além da gasolina? []s Marcio ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Folheto OpenStreetMap Brasil
Olá, João! Existem alguns folhetos em Inglês, no link abaixo você consegue ver alguns e baixar o arquivo SVG, com o qual você conseguiria fazer uma versão em Português: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Banner Também já passei por situações como a que você relatou. Sempre tive vontade de fazer uma camiseta do OSM! abraços, wille On 19-01-2014 21:24, John Packer wrote: Pessoal, existe algum tipo de cartão ou folheto do OpenStreetMap em português ou numa versão brasileira? Percebi que, durante um /survey/, às vezes surgem pessoas curiosas sobre o que eu estou fazendo, criando oportunidades para dar um folheto informativo para aumentar o uso do OSM. Também poderia evitar algumas situações constrangedoras (por exemplo, uns dias atrás eu estava fazendo /survey/ de bicicleta com o Osmtracker(android) e teve até uma velhinha que juro que estava pronta pra ligar para a polícia quando eu subi numa rua sem saída pra ver se tinha alguma trilha e marcar o final). Seria bem interessante se este folheto também mencionasse(ou desse um link) sobre a funcionalidade de anotações para relatório de erro/bug. Desta forma, não é necessário as pessoas aprenderem a mapear para dar uma ajuda. Talvez também mostrasse um link para o MapQuest, já que direções é algo bem comum de ser procurado, e o MapQuest(um problema possível, embora pequeno, seria as pessoas começarem a pensar que o mapa É o MapQuest e não o OSM). Um problema de incentivar as pessoas a relatarem erros e adições é elas fazerem uso de um outro mapa de forma indevida(com uma licença que não permite), portanto seria recomendável mencionar isso em algum lugar. Também, como comentado pelo Fernando Trebien, seria legal explicar no folheto que não trabalhamos nem pro Google nem pro governo. (acredito que deixaria as pessoas mais sossegadas) Descobri que tem algo parecido com o que eu estou procurando aqui: https://gitorious.org/osmtutorial/osmtutorial/source/master: (que eu saiba, o Wille que administrou isso, e que acredito participar desta lista também) Achei bem legal, só a diferença do que eu estou procurando é que este ali tem mais uma cara de cartaz(que coloca em algum lugar) ao invés de folheto, e eu estava procurando algo mais para o público geral do que para procurar possíveis mapeadores. Abraços,João ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] Start von JOSM
Chris66 wrote Mit javaws (Java webstart) startet man normalerweise Java Applets. Da JOSM eine eigenständige Java Applikation ist empfiehlt sich da eher die manuelle Startmethode. Java Webstart ist primär für Java Applikationen gedacht [1]. Applets laufen direkt im Browser, unterstützt durch entsprechende Plugins, jedoch ohne Java WebStart-Beteiligung. JOSM per Webstart laufen zu lassen passt eigentlich schon ganz gut; JOSM wird so immer automatisch aktuell gehalten. Für einen größeren Speicher findet sich unter [2] eine kleine Anleitung. Damit sollte der OutOfMemory-Fehler nicht mehr auftreten. Übrigens: im gleichen Thread sind auch unzählige andere Varianten zu finden, wie JOSM automatisch aktuell gehalten werden kann. [1] http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_webstart.xml [2] http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=239145#p239145 -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Start-von-JOSM-tp5793463p5793576.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Fossgis 2014: Namensschilder mit OSM Logo??
Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: Was hältst Du von folgendem Vorschlag: Ich besorge 1000 Klebe- Etiketten mit OSM Logo, die jeder auf Wunsch über das Fossgis Logo kleben kann. Da offensichtlich wenig Interesse besteht, lasse ich das mal. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Rettungspunkte
Hallo OSM'ler! Im letzten Gemeinde Kasblatt wurde erwaehnt, dass bei uns drei sog. Rettungspunkte aufgestellt wurden. Soll wohl eine Bayern- bzw. Deutschland-weite Aktion werden. Dachte mir als aktiver Mountainbiker und OSM'ler, dass das eine sinnvolle Einrichtung ist. Zumal gibt es bereits Andriod Apps, die das recht praktisch umsetzen (Notfalltaste druecken, naechsten Rettungspunkt anzeigen und melden etc.) aber eben nicht auf OSM Basis. Auf der Suche nach einem passendem Tagging bin ich auf widerspruechliche Informationen gestossen. Zum einen gibt es folgenden Thread: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=8604 Dann gibt es eine Karte, die angeblich auf OSM Daten basiert, die ich aber nicht sehen kann, nur fuer Rheinland-Pfalz: http://www.rettungspunkte.info/RescuePointsMap.aspx?c=1 Schleswig-Holstein hat ein Proposal fuer das Tagging erstellt: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Demergency_access_point Mich taete interessieren, wie ich folgende Informationen verpacken kann: - Koordinaten (ist klar) - textuelle Beschreibung z.B. 'Bundesstrasse xyz, Kreuzung nach Labersdorf 500m auf der rechten Seite' = Als 'note' tag verwenden? - Bezeichnung des Rettungspunktes, z.B. 'LA-S-1012' = als 'ref' Tag verwenden? - source oder andere Quellenangaben, falls sich die Positionen im Lauf der Zeit aendern, und man die Rettungspunkte in seinem Gebiet rausfiltern will? Merci fuer jeden Kommentar - A. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] subareas in administrativen boundaries
Hi, On 17.01.2014 05:29, Walter Nordmann wrote: sollten jetzt raus sein. Sieht aus, als ob wir einen Nachahmer in Polen haetten http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/andreasb85/history Leider sind die Polen aber offenbar recht gluecklich mit ihren subareas und moechten die gern behalten ;) hab ihn angemailt, k.a. ob er hier mitliest oder unabhaengig von uns agiert hat. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Rettungspunkte
On 19.01.2014 22:07, Alexander Lehner wrote: Mich taete interessieren, wie ich folgende Informationen verpacken kann: - textuelle Beschreibung z.B. 'Bundesstrasse xyz, Kreuzung nach Labersdorf 500m auf der rechten Seite' = Als 'note' tag verwenden? Sehr generisch, aber etwas besseres müsste ich mir auch erst ausdenken. description:location= evtl? (In den OSM-Daten findet sich bislang auch nichts: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/highway=emergency_access_point#combinations ) - Bezeichnung des Rettungspunktes, z.B. 'LA-S-1012' = als 'ref' Tag verwenden? Klar - source oder andere Quellenangaben, falls sich die Positionen im Lauf der Zeit aendern, und man die Rettungspunkte in seinem Gebiet rausfiltern will? Wie meinen? Quellenangabe soll immer gemacht werden, mit einem aktuellen JOSM kann man recht komfortabel für das Changeset nicht nur einen Kommentar, sondern auch eine Quellenangabe setzen. Zum Herausfiltern sollte eine Suche nach highway=emergency_access_point genügen. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Rettungspunkte
Ja, gibt's hier in Niedersachsen auch: http://www.landesforsten.de/Pressedetail.2073.0.html?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1151cHash=0a0eb9a2c9393d27c12f438d306bce9e http://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/nachrichten/Niedersachsen/neues-notfallnetz-fuer-niedersachsens-waelder-id1126313.html ich habe aber noch keinen eingezeichnet. Andreas Am 19.01.2014 22:07, schrieb Alexander Lehner: Hallo OSM'ler! Im letzten Gemeinde Kasblatt wurde erwaehnt, dass bei uns drei sog. Rettungspunkte aufgestellt wurden. Soll wohl eine Bayern- bzw. Deutschland-weite Aktion werden. Dachte mir als aktiver Mountainbiker und OSM'ler, dass das eine sinnvolle Einrichtung ist. Zumal gibt es bereits Andriod Apps, die das recht praktisch umsetzen (Notfalltaste druecken, naechsten Rettungspunkt anzeigen und melden etc.) aber eben nicht auf OSM Basis. Auf der Suche nach einem passendem Tagging bin ich auf widerspruechliche Informationen gestossen. Zum einen gibt es folgenden Thread: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=8604 Dann gibt es eine Karte, die angeblich auf OSM Daten basiert, die ich aber nicht sehen kann, nur fuer Rheinland-Pfalz: http://www.rettungspunkte.info/RescuePointsMap.aspx?c=1 Schleswig-Holstein hat ein Proposal fuer das Tagging erstellt: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Demergency_access_point Mich taete interessieren, wie ich folgende Informationen verpacken kann: - Koordinaten (ist klar) - textuelle Beschreibung z.B. 'Bundesstrasse xyz, Kreuzung nach Labersdorf 500m auf der rechten Seite' = Als 'note' tag verwenden? - Bezeichnung des Rettungspunktes, z.B. 'LA-S-1012' = als 'ref' Tag verwenden? - source oder andere Quellenangaben, falls sich die Positionen im Lauf der Zeit aendern, und man die Rettungspunkte in seinem Gebiet rausfiltern will? Merci fuer jeden Kommentar - A. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Rettungspunkte
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014, malenki wrote: - source oder andere Quellenangaben, falls sich die Positionen im Lauf der Zeit aendern, und man die Rettungspunkte in seinem Gebiet rausfiltern will? Wie meinen? Quellenangabe soll immer gemacht werden, mit einem aktuellen JOSM kann man recht komfortabel für das Changeset nicht nur einen Kommentar, sondern auch eine Quellenangabe setzen. Zum Herausfiltern sollte eine Suche nach highway=emergency_access_point genügen. Genau. ich denke, der Konsens ist, bei externen Daten in einer Gruppe die source als changeset Kommentar anzugeben und nicht als einzelnes Member. Interessant waere nur: Wenn sich ein Rettungspunkt verschiebt oder aufloest, moechte ich das recht fix in der OSM Datenbank finden. Unter highway=emergency_access_point finde ich aber auch u.a. Defilibratoren etc. was OK ist. Aber wie's derzeit aussieht, scheint dieses Tag noch nicht allzusehr ausgemergelt zu sein, sodass es wohl als Suchkriterium ausreicht. Mal weitersehen, ich halte euch auf dem Laufenden! A. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] subareas in administrativen boundaries
nach seinen Changesets zu urteilen ist das ein klassischen Zweitaccount: 1. edit iD, alle anderen deutscher ! Josm, nur subareas gelöscht. keine Ahnung ob es einen polnischen Josm gibt und wenn nicht, würde ich dort wohl den englischen nehmen. ich würde aus didaktischen Gründen und des lieben Friedens willen, komplett reverten - obwohl ich gegen das Ergebnis eigentlich nichts einzuwenden habe. Gruss walter - [url=http://osm.wno-edv-service.de/residentials] Missing Residentials Map 1.17[/url] [url=http://osm.wno-edv-service.de/plz] Postcode Map 2.0.2[/url] -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/subareas-in-administrativen-boundaries-tp5793357p5793667.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Neuer Datenlogger gesucht: AA(A), (Micro-)SD, neuzeitlicher Empfänger, Streichholzschachtelformat.
Nachdem mein langjähriger treuer Begleiter an der Phototasche (ein Royaltek RGM-3800) seit letzten Samstag einen neuen Besitzer gefunden hat (kommt davon, wenn man eine eigentlich leere und schon ziemlich abgewetzte Tasche unbeaufsichtigt stehen lässt. Immerhin hat der Neubesitzer die Linsenputztücher und den Labello nicht auch noch mitgenommen. Um die diversen Wechselakkus trauere ich jetzt aber schon...) Egal, zurück zum Thema: Obige Anforderung NiMH-Standardbatterien, entnehmbare Speicherkarte plus neuzeitliger Empfänger (Sirf4, MTK2, ublox) gibt es offensichtlich nur in Form eines Arduina-Adafruit-Shields, was dann aber schon ZIEMLICH bulky daherkommt, dass man auch gleich wieder einen Etrex nehmen könnte. Es geht wirklich nur um gute Tracks für OSM. ich will keine Wegepunkte setzen, Anzeige werde ich garantiert auch nie benützen. Auf der Auswahl stehen Minihomer 2.8 (42g, Venus6, fest verbauter Akku) gporter GP-102+ (41g, Sirf IV, fest verbauter Akku) Holux 255 (48g, MTK, fest verbauter Akku) Qstarz BT-Q1000XT (65g, MTK2, Wechselakku Nokia BL-5C?) Empfehlung? Alternativen? -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Rettungspunkte
On 20.01.2014 00:00, Alexander Lehner wrote: Interessant waere nur: Wenn sich ein Rettungspunkt verschiebt oder aufloest, moechte ich das recht fix in der OSM Datenbank finden. Unter highway=emergency_access_point finde ich aber auch u.a. Defilibratoren etc. was OK ist. Aber wie's derzeit aussieht, scheint dieses Tag noch nicht allzusehr ausgemergelt zu sein, sodass es wohl als Suchkriterium ausreicht. Nimm noch das ref= dazu... ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Fossgis 2014: Namensschilder mit OSM Logo??
Am 19.01.2014 19:42, schrieb Tirkon: Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: Was hältst Du von folgendem Vorschlag: Ich besorge 1000 Klebe- Etiketten mit OSM Logo, die jeder auf Wunsch über das Fossgis Logo kleben kann. Da offensichtlich wenig Interesse besteht, lasse ich das mal. Hallo Tirkon, ich finde die Idee mit den Klebe- Etiketten mit OSM Logo sehr gut. Bin aber auch eher dafür, de Etiketten nicht drüber sondern neben das FOSSGIS Logo zu kleben. Wenn Du die Quittung beim FOSSGIS Verein einreichst, kann der Verein sicherlich auch die Kosten übernehmen (Anfrage an foerderantraege@f o s s g i s. de) und wir können die übrigen Aufkleber am FOSSGIS Stand und bei den nächsten Veranstaltuungen auslegen. Schönen Gruß Astrid ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
scusa ma non sono molto pratico di overpass-turbo (usicchio solo il wizard) La sintassi del tuo script non mi sembra quella di overpass e infatti se copio ed incollo non mi funziona (static error: Element osm-script must not contain text.). dove sbaglio? ciao e scusa ancora l'imbranataggine - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amministrazioni-tp5793505p5793570.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
Premetto che anch'io sono a livello Wizard e poco più. E' possibile copiare gli script OverpassQL di Alberto nell' editor di Overpass-turbo e convertirli in Overpass-XML: Esporta Query Converti in Overpass-XML Il risultato va integrato nello scheletro generato dal Wizard, in particolare per quanto riguarda gli attributi di osm-script e delle istruzioni per il print results. Questo [2] è quello che, per ora, ho ottenuto. Zoomate bene sull' Italia per vedere i risultati *--* *FabC* [1] http://overpass-turbo.eu [2] http://overpass-turbo.eu/map.html?Q=%3Cosm-script%20output%3D%22json%22%20timeout%3D%2260%22%3E%0A%20%20%3C!--%20gather%20results%20--%3E%0A%20%20%3Cquery%20into%3D%22b%22%20type%3D%22area%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Chas-kv%20k%3D%22admin_level%22%20modv%3D%22%22%20v%3D%222%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Chas-kv%20k%3D%22name%22%20modv%3D%22%22%20v%3D%22Italia%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3C%2Fquery%3E%0A%20%20%3Cunion%20into%3D%22a%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Cquery%20into%3D%22_%22%20type%3D%22relation%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Carea-query%20from%3D%22b%22%20into%3D%22_%22%20ref%3D%22%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Chas-kv%20k%3D%22boundary%22%20modv%3D%22%22%20v%3D%22administrative%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Chas-kv%20k%3D%22admin_level%22%20modv%3D%22%22%20v%3D%226%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3C%2Fquery%3E%0A%20%20%3C%2Funion%3E%0A%20%20%3Cunion%20into%3D%22_%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Cquery%20into%3D%22_%22%20type%3D%22node%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Crecurse%20from%3D%22a%22%20into%3D%22_%22%20role%3D%22admin_centre%22%20role-restricted%3D%22yes%22%20type%3D%22relation-node%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Chas-kv%20k%3D%22place%22%20modv%3D%22%22%20v%3D%22%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3C%2Fquery%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Cquery%20into%3D%22_%22%20type%3D%22node%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Crecurse%20from%3D%22a%22%20into%3D%22_%22%20role%3D%22admin_center%22%20role-restricted%3D%22yes%22%20type%3D%22relation-node%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Chas-kv%20k%3D%22place%22%20modv%3D%22%22%20v%3D%22%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3C%2Fquery%3E%0A%20%20%3C%2Funion%3E%0A%20%20%3Cquery%20into%3D%22_%22%20type%3D%22relation%22%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Crecurse%20from%3D%22_%22%20into%3D%22_%22%20type%3D%22node-relation%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Chas-kv%20k%3D%22boundary%22%20modv%3D%22%22%20v%3D%22administrative%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3Chas-kv%20k%3D%22admin_level%22%20modv%3D%22%22%20v%3D%226%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3C%2Fquery%3E%0A%20%20%20%20%3C!--%20print%20results%20--%3E%0A%20%20%3Cprint%20mode%3D%22body%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Crecurse%20type%3D%22down%22%2F%3E%0A%20%20%3Cprint%20mode%3D%22skeleton%22%20order%3D%22quadtile%22%2F%3E%0A%3C%2Fosm-script%3E Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 09:18, Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com ha scritto: scusa ma non sono molto pratico di overpass-turbo (usicchio solo il wizard) La sintassi del tuo script non mi sembra quella di overpass e infatti se copio ed incollo non mi funziona (static error: Element osm-script must not contain text.). dove sbaglio? ciao e scusa ancora l'imbranataggine - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amministrazioni-tp5793505p5793570.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- *Fabrizio* ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] OSM Meetup in Rome
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kat! We have several mappers here in Rome and several types of wine, so nice idea, count me in ;) I think we can manage a meeting first week of February, just wait for other osmers to reply... After you decided place, time and meeting, we can spread this information to different channels and, maybe, attract the interest of other people around the openstreetmap topic ;) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
Ok, mentre provo ad integrare lo script dato Alberto Nogaro seguendo le istruzioni di Fabrizio Carrai (vi ringrazio entrambi per l'aiuto) ne ho approfittato per usare lo script fornito da Fabrizio Carrai al livello provinciale (admin 6) per vedere quale fosse la situazione in Sicilia e posso dire che è drammatica...delle 9 provincie siciliane solamente 2 avevano un admin_centre (palermo e catania). ho provveduto io stesso ad aggiungere le mancanti. dal punto di vista comunale la situazione è ancora più grave e, pur avendo io stesso provveduto ad aggiungere il ruolo a tutti i comuni che ho trovato (quindi più di una decina) risultano da overpass turbo 32 nodi ogni 389 poligoni Ricapitolando un 22,2% delle provincie con admin_center e 4,1% per i comuni (situazione prima delle mie correzioni). le altre regioni come sono messe? i valori sono confrontabili o è solo la sicilia ad essere messa particolarmente male? - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amministrazioni-tp5793505p5793587.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Fwd: ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
In generale l' Italia intera non è messa bene, come si può vedere qui https://www.dropbox.com/s/qikgvei0kw4zwnq/201401191240%20Province%20con%20Administrative_Centre.png Comunque la Overpass-XML query a livello regionale per le province con administrative_centre è la seguente: osm-script output=json timeout=60 !-- gather results -- query into=b type=area has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=4/ has-kv k=name modv= v=Toscana/ /query union into=a query into=_ type=relation area-query from=b into=_ ref=/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query /union union into=_ query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_centre role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_center role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query /union query into=_ type=relation recurse from=_ into=_ type=node-relation/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query !-- print results -- print mode=body/ recurse type=down/ print mode=skeleton order=quadtile/ /osm-script Basta cambiare il nome della regione da Toscana per avere altri risultati. *--* *FabC* Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 12:15, Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ok, mentre provo ad integrare lo script dato Alberto Nogaro seguendo le istruzioni di Fabrizio Carrai (vi ringrazio entrambi per l'aiuto) ne ho approfittato per usare lo script fornito da Fabrizio Carrai al livello provinciale (admin 6) per vedere quale fosse la situazione in Sicilia e posso dire che è drammatica...delle 9 provincie siciliane solamente 2 avevano un admin_centre (palermo e catania). ho provveduto io stesso ad aggiungere le mancanti. dal punto di vista comunale la situazione è ancora più grave e, pur avendo io stesso provveduto ad aggiungere il ruolo a tutti i comuni che ho trovato (quindi più di una decina) risultano da overpass turbo 32 nodi ogni 389 poligoni Ricapitolando un 22,2% delle provincie con admin_center e 4,1% per i comuni (situazione prima delle mie correzioni). le altre regioni come sono messe? i valori sono confrontabili o è solo la sicilia ad essere messa particolarmente male? - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amministrazioni-tp5793505p5793587.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- *Fabrizio* -- *Fabrizio* ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
Per completezza, la query per le province che NON hanno l'admin_centre (era la domanda iniziale), la query Overmass-XML è la seguente osm-script output=json timeout=60 !-- gather results -- query into=b type=area has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=4/ has-kv k=name modv= v=Toscana/ /query union into=a query into=_ type=relation area-query from=b into=_ ref=/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query /union union into=_ query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_centre role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_center role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query /union query into=_ type=relation recurse from=_ into=_ type=node-relation/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query difference into=_ item set=a/ item set=_/ /difference print from=_ limit= mode=meta order=id/ !-- print results -- print mode=body/ recurse type=down/ print mode=skeleton order=quadtile/ /osm-script Ora dovrebbero esserci tutti gli strumenti per un rapido aggiornamento nazionale. Ciao! *--* *FabC* Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 13:01, Fabrizio Carrai fabrizio.car...@gmail.comha scritto: In generale l' Italia intera non è messa bene, come si può vedere qui https://www.dropbox.com/s/qikgvei0kw4zwnq/201401191240%20Province%20con%20Administrative_Centre.png Comunque la Overpass-XML query a livello regionale per le province con administrative_centre è la seguente: osm-script output=json timeout=60 !-- gather results -- query into=b type=area has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=4/ has-kv k=name modv= v=Toscana/ /query union into=a query into=_ type=relation area-query from=b into=_ ref=/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query /union union into=_ query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_centre role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_center role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query /union query into=_ type=relation recurse from=_ into=_ type=node-relation/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query !-- print results -- print mode=body/ recurse type=down/ print mode=skeleton order=quadtile/ /osm-script Basta cambiare il nome della regione da Toscana per avere altri risultati. *--* *FabC* Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 12:15, Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ok, mentre provo ad integrare lo script dato Alberto Nogaro seguendo le istruzioni di Fabrizio Carrai (vi ringrazio entrambi per l'aiuto) ne ho approfittato per usare lo script fornito da Fabrizio Carrai al livello provinciale (admin 6) per vedere quale fosse la situazione in Sicilia e posso dire che è drammatica...delle 9 provincie siciliane solamente 2 avevano un admin_centre (palermo e catania). ho provveduto io stesso ad aggiungere le mancanti. dal punto di vista comunale la situazione è ancora più grave e, pur avendo io stesso provveduto ad aggiungere il ruolo a tutti i comuni che ho trovato (quindi più di una decina) risultano da overpass turbo 32 nodi ogni 389 poligoni Ricapitolando un 22,2% delle provincie con admin_center e 4,1% per i comuni (situazione prima delle mie correzioni). le altre regioni come sono messe? i valori sono confrontabili o è solo la sicilia ad essere messa particolarmente male? - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amministrazioni-tp5793505p5793587.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- *Fabrizio* -- *Fabrizio* -- *Fabrizio* ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
Perfeto! grazie mille Fabrizio. ora di sicuro sarà molto più veloce sistemare la situazione almeno a livello provinciale. - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amministrazioni-tp5793505p5793595.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
Ultimo aggiornamento della giornata (promesso ;-)): la query allegata, oltre a riportare le province di una regione che NON hanno admin_centre, riportano anche i nodi taggati con capital=*. Dopo aver eseguito la query, con Esporta Dati Carica i dati in JOSM ed eventualmente aver richiesto la correzione della stessa, le relazioni delle province ed i nodi dei capoluoghi verranno caricati su JOSM. Avrete quindi tutto sullo schermo: non dovrete fare altro che editare le relazioni. Ho già aggiornato Toscana, Umbria e Marche. Buon lavoro! *--* *FabC* Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 14:20, Fabrizio Carrai fabrizio.car...@gmail.comha scritto: Per completezza, la query per le province che NON hanno l'admin_centre (era la domanda iniziale), la query Overmass-XML è la seguente osm-script output=json timeout=60 !-- gather results -- query into=b type=area has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=4/ has-kv k=name modv= v=Toscana/ /query union into=a query into=_ type=relation area-query from=b into=_ ref=/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query /union union into=_ query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_centre role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_center role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query /union query into=_ type=relation recurse from=_ into=_ type=node-relation/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query difference into=_ item set=a/ item set=_/ /difference print from=_ limit= mode=meta order=id/ !-- print results -- print mode=body/ recurse type=down/ print mode=skeleton order=quadtile/ /osm-script Ora dovrebbero esserci tutti gli strumenti per un rapido aggiornamento nazionale. Ciao! *--* *FabC* Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 13:01, Fabrizio Carrai fabrizio.car...@gmail.com ha scritto: In generale l' Italia intera non è messa bene, come si può vedere qui https://www.dropbox.com/s/qikgvei0kw4zwnq/201401191240%20Province%20con%20Administrative_Centre.png Comunque la Overpass-XML query a livello regionale per le province con administrative_centre è la seguente: osm-script output=json timeout=60 !-- gather results -- query into=b type=area has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=4/ has-kv k=name modv= v=Toscana/ /query union into=a query into=_ type=relation area-query from=b into=_ ref=/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query /union union into=_ query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_centre role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_center role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query /union query into=_ type=relation recurse from=_ into=_ type=node-relation/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query !-- print results -- print mode=body/ recurse type=down/ print mode=skeleton order=quadtile/ /osm-script Basta cambiare il nome della regione da Toscana per avere altri risultati. *--* *FabC* Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 12:15, Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ok, mentre provo ad integrare lo script dato Alberto Nogaro seguendo le istruzioni di Fabrizio Carrai (vi ringrazio entrambi per l'aiuto) ne ho approfittato per usare lo script fornito da Fabrizio Carrai al livello provinciale (admin 6) per vedere quale fosse la situazione in Sicilia e posso dire che è drammatica...delle 9 provincie siciliane solamente 2 avevano un admin_centre (palermo e catania). ho provveduto io stesso ad aggiungere le mancanti. dal punto di vista comunale la situazione è ancora più grave e, pur avendo io stesso provveduto ad aggiungere il ruolo a tutti i comuni che ho trovato (quindi più di una decina) risultano da overpass turbo 32 nodi ogni 389 poligoni Ricapitolando un 22,2% delle provincie con admin_center e 4,1% per i comuni (situazione prima delle mie correzioni). le altre regioni come sono messe? i valori sono confrontabili o è solo la sicilia ad essere messa particolarmente male? - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amministrazioni-tp5793505p5793587.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- *Fabrizio* -- *Fabrizio* -- *Fabrizio* -- *Fabrizio* !-- Search for the province relation
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
-Original Message- From: Aury88 [mailto:spacedrive...@gmail.com] Sent: domenica 19 gennaio 2014 09:18 To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni sintassi del tuo script non mi sembra quella di overpass e infatti se copio ed incollo non mi funziona (static error: Element osm-script must not contain text.). dove sbaglio? Overpass conosce due sintassi: Overpass XML ed Overpass QL [1]. Il mio script è in Overpass QL. Se preferisci Overpass XML puoi usare lo script postato da Fabrizio Carrai, che mi sembra equivalente. Ho riprovato i due script con il copia ed incolla e mi funzionano (risultano senza admin_centre rispettivamente 49 province e 7771 comuni). Devi incollare il test compreso tra le righe di asterischi (righe di asterischi esclusi). Se il server è occupato è possibile che vadano in time out. Puoi velocizzare l'esecuzione evitando di fare ordinare gli elementi, sostituisci l'ultima riga con: out meta qt Se non hai bisogno di esportare I risultati in JOSM, è più veloce come fa Fabrizio Carrai usare: out skel qt Per dare alla query più tempo per l'esecuzione, puoi dargli un tempo di timeout più lungo del default (180), inserendo la direttiva come prima riga, per esempio con 1000 mi ha concluso le queri: [timeout:1000] E' comunque consigliabile, come suggerisce Fabrizio Carrai, fare girare lo script su singole regioni, basta cambiare la prima riga con admin_level=4 e nome della regione voluta, es: area [admin_level=4][name=Toscana]-.b; Sarebbe opportune cominciare ad inserire gli admin_centre dei comuni sparsi, cioè quei comuni in cui non esiste un centro abitato avente lo stesso nome del comune, oppure in cui esiste un centro abitato con lo stesso nome del comune, ma la sede comunale è in un'altra frazione. Un elenco (incompleto) si trova su wikipedia [2]. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL [2] http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Comuni_sparsi Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 15:26, Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it ha scritto: -Original Message- From: Aury88 [mailto:spacedrive...@gmail.com] Sent: domenica 19 gennaio 2014 09:18 To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni [...] Sarebbe opportune cominciare ad inserire gli admin_centre dei comuni sparsi, cioè quei comuni in cui non esiste un centro abitato avente lo stesso nome del comune, oppure in cui esiste un centro abitato con lo stesso nome del comune, ma la sede comunale è in un'altra frazione. Un elenco (incompleto) si trova su wikipedia [2]. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL [2] http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Comuni_sparsi Ma in questo caso quale nodo metteresti come admin_centre ? Il place che ospita la sede comunale ? Es: Giglio Castello per l' Isola del Giglio -- *FabC* ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] OSM Meetup in Rome
Hi Kathleen, nice to meet you in Rome ( where I live :) Also, take a look of this, from my blog: http://exporttocanoma.blogspot.it/2014/01/mappare-laquila-openstreetmap.html Ciao from Italy. :) Roberto I am an OpenStreetMapper in the US (I'm actually the Treasurer of OSM-US) and I will be in Rome on vacation on 4 - 7 February. I was wondering if there were any mappers in Rome who might be interested in meeting up? I'd love a chance to meet you and share a beer or a bottle of wine! Kind Regards, Kathleen Danielson ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
Io ho scelto per la relazione il place che ospita la sede comunale. Ora la ricerca dal sito mi evidenzia in rosso il boundary e con un cerchietto il nodo scelto. Tuttavia speravo con questo di risolvere il problema del village Sagrado (Gorizia) che non viene ancora trovato. Qualcuno può illuminarmi? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] [Talk-it-lazio] OSM Meetup in Rome
2014/1/18 Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com Hello OSM Friends! (My apologies for the message in English!) I am an OpenStreetMapper in the US (I'm actually the Treasurer of OSM-US) and I will be in Rome on vacation on 4 - 7 February. I was wondering if there were any mappers in Rome who might be interested in meeting up? I'd love a chance to meet you and share a beer or a bottle of wine! just yesterday I was mailing with a fellow mapper here and we were chatting about organizing a meet up. So yes, count me in as well! We've had some meeting at Eataly, which is basically a department store for food and drinks with lots of stands where you can eat or drink (the concept is quality / slow food). It is located at a train- and metro station so for Roman conditions it is very well connected. On the other hand it is often quite crowded, so maybe a smaller pub would be a valid alternative? This is the place: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3304088#map=19/41.87123/12.48663 http://www.roma.eataly.it/ cheers, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
a me lo visualizza correttamente: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/179116 che problema hai incontrato? - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amministrazioni-tp5793505p5793611.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Linee guida sullo spam
2014/1/18 yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it e da dove si dovrebbero prendere le coordinate??? quelle prese da cartine dell'IGM possono considerarsi non copiate ed esatte??? quelle prese con osm tracker vanno bene?? da quale altra fonte non verrebbero considerate copiate ed esatte?? L'idea ed il concetto fondamentale di OSM è che la fonte sei tu, il mappatore con la sua connoscenza del territorio. Non copiamo da nessuno, facciamo la nostra mappa da soli. Puoi usare il GPS per registrare coordinate oppure usare la nostra mappa come riferimento per inserire altre informazioni oppure usare una delle foto aeree consentite per posizionare le informazioni che vuoi aggiungere. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
Se è il problema che dico io, quando si cerca una città con Nominatim, es. Livorno, viene ritornato: - Città Livorno, LI, TOS, Italiahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/42481 - e quindi la relazione del comune, che ora ha il nodo admin_centre sul posto che ha la sede comunale. Quindi per città non intende Place=*/name=Livorno ma l'area comunale. - *-- FabC* - Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 17:26, Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com ha scritto: a me lo visualizza correttamente: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/179116 che problema hai incontrato? - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amministrazioni-tp5793505p5793611.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- *Fabrizio* ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Nominatim ed interrogazioni sulle città
Se interroghiamo Nominatim su Milano, otteniamo : - Città Milano, Lombardia, Italiahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/44915 - Confine di Contea Milano, Lombardia, Italiahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/44881 - Confine di Città El Milano, Salamanca, Castiglia e León, Spagnahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/344499 Come ho già riportato, con Città non riporta il place (che era quello che mi aspettavo) ma - il Comune (boundary con admin_level=8). - la provincia (admin_level=6) - ed infine un Confine di Città(boundary, admin_level=8) quest'ultima come tipologia completerebbe la risposta (città, comune e provincia), ma non si riferisce a Milano, ma a El Milano in Spagna! Per completare la (mia) confusione, se cerco El Milanohttp://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=%22El%20Milano%22#map=14/41.0987/-6.6077 ottengo: - Il Confine di Città - e la Città che ora però è quella di Milano in Italia! Qualcuno ha dei chiarimenti ? Essendo Nominatim il sistema di ricerca principale di OSM penso che il suo funzionamento è basilare. A presto -- *Fabrizio* ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Nominatim ed interrogazioni sulle città
Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 18:02, Fabrizio Carrai fabrizio.car...@gmail.comha scritto: Se interroghiamo Nominatim su Milano, otteniamo : - Città Milano, Lombardia, Italiahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/44915 - Confine di Contea Milano, Lombardia, Italiahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/44881 - Confine di Città El Milano, Salamanca, Castiglia e León, Spagnahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/344499 Come ho già riportato, con Città non riporta il place (che era quello che mi aspettavo) ma Il place non lo riporta mai, per quello è comodo avere l'admin_centre per me (lo trovi nella relazione). Il place lo trova solo quando non c'è un boundary... - il Comune (boundary con admin_level=8). - la provincia (admin_level=6) - ed infine un Confine di Città(boundary, admin_level=8) quest'ultima come tipologia completerebbe la risposta (città, comune e provincia), ma non si riferisce a Milano, ma a El Milano in Spagna! Per completare la (mia) confusione, se cerco El Milanohttp://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=%22El%20Milano%22#map=14/41.0987/-6.6077 ottengo: - Il Confine di Città - e la Città che ora però è quella di Milano in Italia! Qualcuno ha dei chiarimenti ? Essendo Nominatim il sistema di ricerca principale di OSM penso che il suo funzionamento è basilare. Magari è un comportamento voluto, bha... A presto -- *Fabrizio* Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Nominatim ed interrogazioni sulle città
Anche cercando Trieste trova solo il comune e non la città vera e propria (place=city). Sarebbe da capire perché e come rimediare/risolvere/riparare... Ciao Damjan 19.01.2014 - 18:30 - sabas88: Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 18:02, Fabrizio Carrai fabrizio.car...@gmail.com mailto:fabrizio.car...@gmail.com ha scritto: Se interroghiamo Nominatim su Milano, otteniamo : * Città Milano, Lombardia, Italia http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/44915 * Confine di Contea Milano, Lombardia, Italia http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/44881 * Confine di Città El Milano, Salamanca, Castiglia e León, Spagna http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/344499 Come ho già riportato, con Città non riporta il place (che era quello che mi aspettavo) ma Il place non lo riporta mai, per quello è comodo avere l'admin_centre per me (lo trovi nella relazione). Il place lo trova solo quando non c'è un boundary... * il Comune (boundary con admin_level=8). * la provincia (admin_level=6) * ed infine un Confine di Città(boundary, admin_level=8) quest'ultima come tipologia completerebbe la risposta (città, comune e provincia), ma non si riferisce a Milano, ma a El Milano in Spagna! Per completare la (mia) confusione, se cerco El Milano http://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=%22El%20Milano%22#map=14/41.0987/-6.6077 ottengo: * Il Confine di Città * e la Città che ora però è quella di Milano in Italia! Qualcuno ha dei chiarimenti ? Essendo Nominatim il sistema di ricerca principale di OSM penso che il suo funzionamento è basilare. Magari è un comportamento voluto, bha... A presto -- /Fabrizio/ Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] R: ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni
Sono un po nubbio per le questioni di script Ma se non chiedo non mi sviluppo, quindi: ho provato a copiare e incollare questo script in JOSM in: FILE SCARICA DALLE API DI OVERPASS INTERROGAZIONE OVERPASS (di seguito a [timeout:15]; che già compare di default) poi clicco su scarica Il risultato è: il server xxx ha risposto con una richiesta non corretta. Cosa sbaglio? Ciao Beppe Da: Fabrizio Carrai [mailto:fabrizio.car...@gmail.com] Inviato: domenica 19 gennaio 2014 14:21 A: openstreetmap list - italiano Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] ruolo admin_centre assente per molte amministrazioni Per completezza, la query per le province che NON hanno l'admin_centre (era la domanda iniziale), la query Overmass-XML è la seguente osm-script output=json timeout=60 !-- gather results -- query into=b type=area has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=4/ has-kv k=name modv= v=Toscana/ /query union into=a query into=_ type=relation area-query from=b into=_ ref=/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query /union union into=_ query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_centre role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_center role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query /union query into=_ type=relation recurse from=_ into=_ type=node-relation/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query difference into=_ item set=a/ item set=_/ /difference print from=_ limit= mode=meta order=id/ !-- print results -- print mode=body/ recurse type=down/ print mode=skeleton order=quadtile/ /osm-script Ora dovrebbero esserci tutti gli strumenti per un rapido aggiornamento nazionale. Ciao! -- FabC Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 13:01, Fabrizio Carrai fabrizio.car...@gmail.com ha scritto: In generale l' Italia intera non è messa bene, come si può vedere qui https://www.dropbox.com/s/qikgvei0kw4zwnq/201401191240%20Province%20con%20Ad ministrative_Centre.png Comunque la Overpass-XML query a livello regionale per le province con administrative_centre è la seguente: osm-script output=json timeout=60 !-- gather results -- query into=b type=area has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=4/ has-kv k=name modv= v=Toscana/ /query union into=a query into=_ type=relation area-query from=b into=_ ref=/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query /union union into=_ query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_centre role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query query into=_ type=node recurse from=a into=_ role=admin_center role-restricted=yes type=relation-node/ has-kv k=place modv= v=/ /query /union query into=_ type=relation recurse from=_ into=_ type=node-relation/ has-kv k=boundary modv= v=administrative/ has-kv k=admin_level modv= v=6/ /query !-- print results -- print mode=body/ recurse type=down/ print mode=skeleton order=quadtile/ /osm-script Basta cambiare il nome della regione da Toscana per avere altri risultati. -- FabC Il giorno 19 gennaio 2014 12:15, Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ok, mentre provo ad integrare lo script dato Alberto Nogaro seguendo le istruzioni di Fabrizio Carrai (vi ringrazio entrambi per l'aiuto) ne ho approfittato per usare lo script fornito da Fabrizio Carrai al livello provinciale (admin 6) per vedere quale fosse la situazione in Sicilia e posso dire che è drammatica...delle 9 provincie siciliane solamente 2 avevano un admin_centre (palermo e catania). ho provveduto io stesso ad aggiungere le mancanti. dal punto di vista comunale la situazione è ancora più grave e, pur avendo io stesso provveduto ad aggiungere il ruolo a tutti i comuni che ho trovato (quindi più di una decina) risultano da overpass turbo 32 nodi ogni 389 poligoni Ricapitolando un 22,2% delle provincie con admin_center e 4,1% per i comuni (situazione prima delle mie correzioni). le altre regioni come sono messe? i valori sono confrontabili o è solo la sicilia ad essere messa particolarmente male? - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ruolo-admin-centre-assente-per-molte-amminist razioni-tp5793505p5793587.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Fabrizio -- Fabrizio -- Fabrizio ___ Talk-it mailing list
[Talk-dk] Flyvestation Værløse og andre forladte anlæg
Hej, Det er første gang jeg skriver til denne liste, så jeg ved ikke om det er det rette forum. I det område jeg bor i har vi Flyvestation Værløse. Dette område er nu åbent offentlig, men i OSM er det markeret som lufthavn. Landingsbane og veje i området er dog i dag markeret som service, og enkelte dele er stadig lukket. Men pga. områdets markering, giver det ind i mellem nogle udfordringer for nye tegnere, der opridser delene igen som lufthavnsveje, hvilket slet ikke passer mere. Man kan se mere om åbningen af flyvestationen her http://www.naturstyrelsen.dk/Naturoplevelser/Beskrivelser/Hovedstaden/flyvestation-vaerloese/ Vil det skade at hele området ophæves til normal og blot markere hegnet omkring det? Evt.kan man sætte en markering, at området kaldes Flyvestation Værløse. Og det gælder vel andre forladte militæranlæg, som overgår til offentligheden. Med venlig hilsen Flemming Bruun (OSM: b-holdet) ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Flyvestation Værløse og andre forladte anlæg
Vores liste her er det helt perfekte forum for et spørgsmål som dette og jeg synes det er et ganske fornuftigt forslag du stiller, så for min skyld må du gerne gå i krig. Måske det vil være en god ide at tagge de tidligere lufthavnsveje mm med note=tidligere lufthavnsvej/landingsbane etc. Mvh Michael Andersen / Hjart Søndag den 19. januar 2014 17:32:31 skrev Flemming Aa. Bruun: Hej, Det er første gang jeg skriver til denne liste, så jeg ved ikke om det er det rette forum. I det område jeg bor i har vi Flyvestation Værløse. Dette område er nu åbent offentlig, men i OSM er det markeret som lufthavn.Landingsbane og veje i området er dog i dag markeret som service, og enkelte dele er stadig lukket. Men pga. områdets markering, giver det ind i mellem nogle udfordringer for nye tegnere, der opridser delene igen som lufthavnsveje, hvilket slet ikke passer mere. Man kan se mere om åbningen af flyvestationen her http://www.naturstyrelsen.dk/Naturoplevelser/Beskrivelser/Hovedstaden/flyvestation-vaerloese/[1] Vil det skade at hele området ophæves til normal og blot markere hegnet omkring det? Evt.kan man sætte en markering, at området kaldes Flyvestation Værløse. Og det gælder vel andre forladte militæranlæg, som overgår til offentligheden. Med venlig hilsenFlemming Bruun(OSM: b-holdet) [1] http://www.naturstyrelsen.dk/Naturoplevelser/Beskrivelser/Hovedstaden/flyvestation-vaerloese/ ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-at] Gebäudetags in 1010 Wien
Hallo liebe Openstreetmapcommunity! Ich bin neu im Gebiet der OSM - versuche gerade offline mit einer osm Datei von Wien eine Wienkarte zum Drucken erstellen. Ich muss für meinen Fall den Informationsgehalt reduzieren. In die Strukturierung Schlüssel+Wert habe ich mich schon eingelesen. Trotzdem finde ich in der inneren Stadt von Wien nicht den richtigen Wert für ca 1/3 aller Gebäude. Unter dem Schlüssel building sind keine Verwaltungs-/Regierungsgebäude, keine militärischen Einrichtungen und Museen und die Nationalbibliothek zu finden. Unter den jeweils naheliegenden Werten wie military, amenity oder office bin ich auch nicht fündig geworden. Beim Durchsuchen der OSM Datei mit einem Texteditor finde ich zwar z.B. Hofburg - hier sind dann der Schlüssel addr:housename und der Wert Hofburg zu finden / das ist aber nur ein ganz kleiner Teil der Hofburg am Michaelerplatz. ...wo finde ich den Rest? Kann mir jemand einen Tipp geben, wonach ich suchen muss, oder was ich falsch mache? Beste Grüße, Thomas ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Gebäudetags in 1010 Wien
hallo, zwei möglichkeiten: zoome auf www.openstreetmap.org so weit wie möglich auf ein beispielgebäude/eine gegend, klicke am rechten rand auf layers und aktiviere ganz unten map data. wenn du dann auf die blauen linien klickst, siehst du deren attribute. oder: mit JOSM kannst du dir einen ausschnitt aus der datenbank auf deinen PC laden und dir die objekte im detail anschauen. ist für den anfang wahrscheinlich aber zu unübersichtlich, vor allem in wien (wegen der dichte). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Josm hth mfg TM Das Problem kann natürlich auch bei dem Programm liegen, mit dem ich die TM OSM Datei auslese, was dieses Beispiel eigentlich vermuten ließe: TM Unter dem Namen Akademie der bildenden Künste findet sich ein Eintrag: TM tag k=amenity v=university/ TM tag k=building v=yes/ TM ...trotzdem bekomme ich die Akademie unter den Werten amenity oder auch TM building nicht angezeigt. TM Ich befürchte, das Problem liegt dann wohl hier bei mir. TM LG Thomas -- Unix gives you just enough rope to hang yourself -- and then a couple of more feet, just to be sure. (Eric Allman) -- ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-ca] New member introduction: Vancouver
Hi, folks! I thought it'd be a good idea to sign up for the list and introduce myself, as I've recently started dabbling with contributing to OSM in my area. I'm Adam Williamson, I work for Red Hat on the Fedora Linux distribution, and I live in Joyce-Collingwood in East Vancouver. I'm mainly interested in 'scratching my own itches', for now at least - trying to do what I can to make OSM a more viable GMaps alternative for my uses. I ride transit, so obviously a big problem is that (AFAIK) there isn't an OpenTripPlanner server for Vancouver, and I've been looking into the possibility of running one (I've registered the domain vanplan.ca to possibly host this in future if it looks viable). I also tend to use GMaps a lot to look up businesses or other places I'm going to, and that's the kind of data I'm likely mostly going to be adding to OSM (if I have the time to keep it up!) I've set up a user page on the Wiki - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AdamWill - and added myself to the 'Users in Vancouver' category. You can find my initial edits around the 3300-3500 blocks of Kingsway, if anyone wants to check my work! Please do drop me a line if you have any tips or advice, I welcome education ;) As noted on my wiki page, I've been adding factual metadata about businesses, like addresses, phone numbers and opening hours, and where I don't have that info in my head or noted down already, I've sourced it from the businesses' own websites (*not* directories like yellow pages or urban spoon) - based on the reading I've done I believe this is legally OK, but please do advise me if I've got that wrong. I don't have any specialist knowledge about mapping at all - I don't think I'd ever even heard of 'GIS' until I read it on the OSM wiki... - so do be gentle and assume very little prior knowledge on my part :) I am curious to know what efforts experienced Vancouver OSMers (OSMites? mappies? what's the term? :) have made to use the data provided by the various GVRD cities' open data projects - I've seen the wiki page which lists out several of them, but I couldn't find any notes on whether for e.g. things like Vancouver's database of street numbers have been / can be used. Thanks everyone! -- adamw ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-cz] RUIAN, duplicita v domovních číslech
Ahoj, pokud správně chápu, v RUIAN je pod položkou cislo_domovni buďto číslo orientační nebo číslo evidenční, přičemž nelze zjistit, o které se jedná? Alespoň mně se to nedaří. Žhery, což je část obce Klučov, mají celkem 42 adresních míst, přičemž 4 duplicity. Něco přehlížím, že neumím odlišit číslo popisné od čísla evidenčního? Díky za radu. -- p ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[Talk-cz] Mapy pro orientační běh
Ahoj, chtěl jsem se zeptat, zda jste někdo nezjištovali jestli by nešlo navázat spolupráci s lidmi co mapují terén pro orientační běh, případně MTBO? V historii konference jsem nenašel v podstatě žádnou zmínku, kromě: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-cz/2007-December/000598.html Moc neznám pozadí OB, ale třeba by bylo možné nějaká data od nich získat. Za zeptání člověk nic nedá. Jen bych nerad dělal něco, co třeba někdo jiný už zkoušel. Mějte se Jirka ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Raildar OSM
Le 11/01/2014 23:57, François Lacombe a écrit : Ce projet a décidément toutes les qualités, il fait parler d'OSM et améliore la qualité des données... good job ! Petite update sur notre outil de vérification des tracés. Pierre a beaucoup bossé le javascript, a diablement amélioré les perfs, du coup, nous avons importé le monde entier dans l'engin. Vous pouvez jouer avec ici : http://www.raildar.fr/osrm/ Au menu : - routes alternatives proposées par OSRM - ajout de vias sur la route pour forcer un trajet précis - mise en évidence des erreurs de virages manifestement impossibles à effectuer pour un train - reverse route Bon weekend ! Bruno ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Le filtre anti-spam du wiki participe à la reconnaissance des numéros de rues
Hello ! Le filtre anti-spam basé sur ReCAPTCHA participe à la reconnaissance des numéros de rues mais évidement pas pour Osm. Je pense que c'est Google qui est derrière ça ;) Il semble que ça date depuis 2012, mais je n'ai pas retrouvé de discussion sur la liste sur le sujet. C'est juste un peu paradoxal ;) Florian. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Raildar OSM
Bonjour, Quelques erreurs mises en évidence entre la Normandie et Pyongyang, mais ça marche plutôt pas mal ! Je ne sais pas si vous connaissez ça : une détection des tronçons isolés de part et d'autre, qui utilise OSRM http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/DennisL/diary/17853 Je n'ai pas trouvé de description précise du fonctionnement de l'outil. Une annonce sur les listes internationales vous permettra peut être de trouver des renforts pour améliorer encore l'outil Bon weekend ! Le 19 janvier 2014 09:58, Spyou r...@spyou.org a écrit : Le 11/01/2014 23:57, François Lacombe a écrit : Ce projet a décidément toutes les qualités, il fait parler d'OSM et améliore la qualité des données... good job ! Petite update sur notre outil de vérification des tracés. Pierre a beaucoup bossé le javascript, a diablement amélioré les perfs, du coup, nous avons importé le monde entier dans l'engin. Vous pouvez jouer avec ici : http://www.raildar.fr/osrm/ Au menu : - routes alternatives proposées par OSRM - ajout de vias sur la route pour forcer un trajet précis - mise en évidence des erreurs de virages manifestement impossibles à effectuer pour un train - reverse route Bon weekend ! Bruno ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- ab_fab http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ab_fab Il n'y a pas de pas perdus, Nadja ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] luthier
Salut Selon cette page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft% 3Dcarpenter J'ai tagué clé : carpenter valeur : luthier Il y a-t-il un moyen de préciser la spécialité du luthier autrement que par le nom de l'entreprise ? Celui-ci fabrique des guitares basses. c'est ici : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/48.01417/-1.59880 nono -- Chuck Norris n'a jamais gagné au Millionnaire, la roue tourne toujours... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] luthier
Le dimanche 19 janvier 2014 à 13:10 +0100, nono a écrit : Salut Selon cette page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft% 3Dcarpenter J'ai tagué clé : carpenter valeur : luthier Il y a-t-il un moyen de préciser la spécialité du luthier autrement que par le nom de l'entreprise ? il y a pour ajouter une information supplémentaire à propos de l'élément sélectionné : description http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Description Celui-ci fabrique des guitares basses. c'est ici : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/48.01417/-1.59880 nono ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] highway=path ouvert aux motorisés ou pas ?
Bonjour, Je constate une incohérence entre deux pages du wiki sur la définition du highway=path. Sur http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#France , on lit qu'en France, un highway=path est ouvert aux motos et mobylettes. C'est le seul pays listé dans ce cas là (à l'exception des USA pour les mobylettes). La page définissant le path ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:highway%3Dpath ) le définit comme Un chemin ouvert au public qui n'est pas destiné aux véhicules à moteur, sauf si taggué séparément. Sur http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Road_signs_in_France , il est indiqué que les panneaux B22a et B22b peuvent se traduire en highway=path et bicycle=designated (resp. foot=designated), sans rajouter motor_vehicle=no. Selon vous, quelle est la bonne définition ? Quel est l'équivalent dans le code de la route français ? Pour moi, un path ne devrait pas autoriser le trafic motorisé. Merci, George ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] highway=path ouvert aux motorisés ou pas ?
Le 19/01/2014 19:49, George Kaplan a écrit : Bonjour, Je constate une incohérence entre deux pages du wiki sur la définition du highway=path. Sur http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#France , on lit qu'en France, un highway=path est ouvert aux motos et mobylettes. C'est le seul pays listé dans ce cas là (à l'exception des USA pour les mobylettes). La page définissant le path ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:highway%3Dpath ) le définit comme Un chemin ouvert au public qui n'est pas destiné aux véhicules à moteur, sauf si taggué séparément. pas destine a ne veut pas dire que les engins motorises y sont interdits, juste que ce chemin n'a pas ete fait a leur intention Sur http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Road_signs_in_France , il est indiqué que les panneaux B22a et B22b peuvent se traduire en highway=path et bicycle=designated (resp. foot=designated), sans rajouter motor_vehicle=no. Selon vous, quelle est la bonne définition ? Quel est l'équivalent dans le code de la route français ? Pour moi, un path ne devrait pas autoriser le trafic motorisé. et dans ce cas comment tu tague les tres nombreux chemins ou il n'y a pas de restriction particuliere, aucun panneau ni rien, et ou donc les motos, mobylettes, quads et autres ne sont pas interdits ? je garde l'usage de path = chemin d'usage general sans restriction particuliere, techniquement non carossable ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] tracer les voies de circulation ?
je tombe sur un bout de route qui n'est pas du tout mappe comme j'en ai l'habitude : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/45.13822/3.63167 - au moindre bout de zebra, il y a 2 voies en sens unique comme si il y avait un terre plein central - les petits bouts de voies dans les zebras pour tourner a gauche sont dessines - le nombre de voies est toujours tague, meme quand c'est une route a double sens tout ce qu'il y a de plus banal il y a lane=2, pour moi ce tag sur une route a double sens ca veut dire 2x2 voies ca fait quelques mois que je ne suis plus en detail tout ce qui passe sur cette liste, et le contributeur qui a fait ca n'a pas l'air d'etre tombe de la derniere pluie, alors je prefere demander ici si les bonnes pratiques n'auraient pas change pendant que j'avais le dos tourne avant de corriger tout ca et lui dire que c'est pas comme ca qu'on fait ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Using 'Kort' outside of Switzerland
2014/1/18 Peter Davies peter.dav...@crc-corp.com Would it depend on (say) whether or not the street is actually posted in Japanese as well as in English? Or should another criterion be suggested? the name tag is not only about street names. Think of famous monuments or important cities, they will more often have names in different languages. Outside of multilingual areas it will be very rare that a street or square has more than one name. There are also examples for the latter, like St. Peter's Square in the Vatican City, which is according to the posted sign called Piazza San Pietro (and there is no English name anywhere near or at that square that I am aware of, but I guess nonetheless nobody would doubt the validity of the English name.) Other examples where multiple names for streets do occur are former colonies, but one might argue that those are indeed multilingual areas. For transliterations of non-latin characters I'd suggest to use a dedicated tag and not the name:en etc. tags, but I'd use the name:en when the name is also posted in English. cheers, Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Using 'Kort' outside of Switzerland
On 09:20 2014-01-19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014/1/18 Peter Davies peter.dav...@crc-corp.com mailto:peter.dav...@crc-corp.com Would it depend on (say) whether or not the street is actually posted in Japanese as well as in English? Or should another criterion be suggested? the name tag is not only about street names. Think of famous monuments or important cities, they will more often have names in different languages. Outside of multilingual areas it will be very rare that a street or square has more than one name. There are also examples for the latter, like St. Peter's Square in the Vatican City, which is according to the posted sign called Piazza San Pietro (and there is no English name anywhere near or at that square that I am aware of, but I guess nonetheless nobody would doubt the validity of the English name.) Other examples where multiple names for streets do occur are former colonies, but one might argue that those are indeed multilingual areas. For transliterations of non-latin characters I'd suggest to use a dedicated tag and not the name:en etc. tags, but I'd use the name:en when the name is also posted in English. For Chinese, Pinyin transliterations are often placed in a dedicated `name:zh_pinyin` tag as well as `int_name`. Not all languages use Pinyin for Chinese names -- Vietnamese uses a very different system -- but Pinyin transliterations are common on guide signs in China. For the `name:en` tag, as a rule of thumb, ask yourself how an English speaker or publication would tend to refer to the street or monument. The answer will vary from case to case: Tiananmen is better than Gate of Heavenly Peace, but as Peter mentioned, Avenue des Champs-Élysées is better than Elysian Fields Avenue (which is incidentally the name of a major street in New Orleans). [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=name:zh_pinyin -- m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Any foursquare/OSM editing update? How about Craigslist?
Hi, Richard Fairhurst, posted an blog about attributing OSM this weekd. http://blog.systemed.net//post/7 Beyond attributing OSM, hopefully our large commercial users can take it a step further and provide a way of editing OSM from their user interface. For example, in August, Foursquare announced they were going to build in editing interface. https://www.mapbox.com/blog/connecting-foursquare-openstreetmap/ I was interested in how that is going? Also, in the same train of thought, It would be fantastic if Craigslist could have an OSM edit button. If that is not possible, how about at least updating the Craigslist tiles more often. Right now Craigslist updates the tiles once a month. Even if a very motivated Craigslist users understands what OSM is, that they can make an edit in osm.org, and have it show up in Craigslist's maps, the slow tile updates make it impossible to actually fix the map for a specific Craigslist listing. There is no reason for a Craigslist user to update OSM, if they can't get the map fixed in *their* listing. Jason ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Any foursquare/OSM editing update? How about Craigslist?
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Richard Fairhurst, posted an blog about attributing OSM this weekd. http://blog.systemed.net//post/7 Beyond attributing OSM, hopefully our large commercial users can take it a step further and provide a way of editing OSM from their user interface. For example, in August, Foursquare announced they were going to build in editing interface. https://www.mapbox.com/blog/connecting-foursquare-openstreetmap/ I was interested in how that is going? They weren't going to build an editing interface, the Edit link on the map there leads to osm.org/edit for the lat/lon of the area they were looking at. Also, in the same train of thought, It would be fantastic if Craigslist could have an OSM edit button. If that is not possible, how about at least updating the Craigslist tiles more often. Right now Craigslist updates the tiles once a month. Even if a very motivated Craigslist users understands what OSM is, that they can make an edit in osm.org, and have it show up in Craigslist's maps, the slow tile updates make it impossible to actually fix the map for a specific Craigslist listing. There is no reason for a Craigslist user to update OSM, if they can't get the map fixed in *their* listing. Craigslist's listing submit system already posts notes directly to OSM.org when the user clicks on a data is wrong button. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Any foursquare/OSM editing update? How about Craigslist?
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Beyond attributing OSM, hopefully our large commercial users can take it a step further and provide a way of editing OSM from their user interface. I'm really interested in this topic, but it's tricky. Long ago when I was at MapQuest, some kook (me?) floated a crazy idea that we should switch the whole thing over to OSM -- all 50mm monthly unique users at the time -- and give the tools to edit any errors (this was Potlatch II back then). Quite obviously this didn't/wouldn't happen! Why not? Because if you make a venn diagram of users who want to use a local/mapping product and users who want to edit one *actively*, there's honestly not much overlap. Products need to do right by their users. We offered the ability to edit the map on the open products at MapQuest, but I don't remember there being much new interest. I suspect this is the same for Foursquare -- people use Foursquare for the social recommendation aspects, not to edit a map. The use of *passive* user data to improve a map would be a lot easier, and of course mapping products with their own datasets do this all the time. But it's not easy to do that with OSM due to licensing and community issues. And that's all good, of course! I would be interested to see a new class of companies using the OSM API, signing in new users with OSM's oauth service, and then using OSM as their database of record for POIs, etc. If a new entrepreneur starting something like Yelp or Foursquare now were to do this successfully, that would be interesting. Of course the point can't be editing a map -- there has to be something to lure in your average user. -Randy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Any foursquare/OSM editing update? How about Craigslist?
On 16:07 2014-01-19, Randy Meech wrote: Why not? Because if you make a venn diagram of users who want to use a local/mapping product and users who want to edit one *actively*, there's honestly not much overlap. Products need to do right by their users. We offered the ability to edit the map on the open products at MapQuest, but I don't remember there being much new interest. I suspect this is the same for Foursquare -- people use Foursquare for the social recommendation aspects, not to edit a map. When Foursquare switched to OSM, they brought in several new mappers from Greater Cincinnati, one of them a superuser. Judging from their first edits, they may have been attracted to the broad building coverage we had in the area. From the user perspective, building outlines beyond downtown were the only noticeable advantage Mapbox Streets had over Google at the time, and the only thing that livened up the map. (Google has much broader building coverage now.) -- m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Any foursquare/OSM editing update? How about Craigslist?
Hi, For Foursquare, I am interested in knowing if it has been rolled out everywhere, do they have any idea how much the edit button has been pressed, and if it has caused any support burden or other unexpected problems. As a baseline, hopefully adding the edit button does not harm... Of course the point can't be editing a map -- there has to be something to lure in your average user. I assert, that there are CL users that would be motivated for themselves at fixing issues on the map. Check this note out. http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/8602 At the time the OSM did not have the two lakes. The CL user was trying to rent/sell a property that is on a lake, but the lake is not in the map, big problem! Even if they figured out that fixing this on osm.org, also fixes it in CL, the slow tile update cycle means that the fix would in fact not appear back in CL in time for that specific listing. It is currently impossible for somebody to fix issues in the map, and help themselves on CL. Also, many CL notes notes in OSM are from errors in the address look up, which is not even OSM data. They say something like the wrong map is displayed here. There is nothing we can do with them because we don't know the address that they were searching for and the note is note placed at the location that address should have been at. All we know is some address is wrong/missing inside of the this bounding box. We don't even get a back link to the listing associated with the note. I think CL could do more without compromising the mission of the company. Thanks Jason ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Any foursquare/OSM editing update? How about Craigslist?
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Of course the point can't be editing a map -- there has to be something to lure in your average user. I assert, that there are CL users that would be motivated for themselves at fixing issues on the map. Check this note out. http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/8602 At the time the OSM did not have the two lakes. The CL user was trying to rent/sell a property that is on a lake, but the lake is not in the map, big problem! Makes sense. To be clear, in that paragraph I wasn't saying that an average user would never edit a map. They certainly would given the right incentive. Highlighting their waterfront real estate would seem a pretty big incentive if the tools were highlighted. -Randy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
