Re: SendTo

2001-04-17 Thread Dierk Haasis

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Ottar!

On Monday, April 16, 2001 at 8:58:42 PM you wrote:

   When I start a new message with the SendTo function in Word or
   Windows Explorer, it starts a new message in The Bat as it should,
   but

Is this "SendTo" from the rightclick menu? Or from the file menu?

   2. My templates is not activated.

Is an address in the TO field?


- --
Dierk Haasis

PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys

The Bat 1.52 Beta/3

Windows 95 4.0 1212 C

Beauty is only skin deep.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt
Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom!

iQA/AwUBOtvbHPTo1oA8g8dLEQJOUwCgl69lHANlDbgMnSFVmeSPQ26mEusAoOAK
K6Jtbr/TfmEGkx04Z15PNTIg
=duc/
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Douglas Hinds



Hello Nick  others on this TB! list  following this thread,

Monday, April 16, 2001,  you asked :

NA when I want to send a single message to all Members of
NA this small Group, all I have to do is put the Group name in the To: field,
NA and all will receive the letter?

Probably. But I suggest doing the following: Right click on the To:
field and select the list. You will notice that what youll see will
be the code name given with the word list following. Typing in
the short cut should also work

Douglas



NA On April 15, 2001, at 12:34:43 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

  If I want to write to all of them I create a new msg  address  it to
  "BouvLists" which is the name of the group. TB!, as I  understand it,
  will send the msg to all the names in the group,  i.e. all the
  different Bouvier lists that I belong to.

NA Jan, just so I understand the procedure for creating your own Mailing
NA List:

NA 1) I have 25 Members from my PGP-Basics Group who have offered to help out
NA the Membership as a whole by offering to exchange encrypted messages. So,
NA I have set up a new AB Group called "PGP-Basics Help Group".

NA 2) Now, I have to make 25 separate entries in this Group, is that correct?

NA 3) Once I do that, when I want to send a single message to all Members of
NA this small Group, all I have to do is put the Group name in the To: field,
NA and all will receive the letter? I don't have to have at least *one*
NA actual (real) address in the To: field?

NA Thanks for your time.

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: SendTo

2001-04-17 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Ottar,

On 16 April 2001 at  20:58:42 +0200 (which was 19:58 where I  live)
Ottar Grimstad wrote to The Bat mailing list and made these points:

OG   Do anyone know the reasons (and fixes) for this?

This is because "Send to" from these applications invokes the MAPI
interface to TB. The MAPI support behaves in this way. I don't know
the reason it does this, but it does and has done since it was
implemented.

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH
 
[ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com  ]
[Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs   ]

TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04)
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness

iQA/AwUBOtwHcDnkJKuSnc2gEQJfUQCgt+pWcVitSDtIz5ZzmQpff2cBAc4AoLhF
a0IiPSPMyNo2KTVrlTU/Dj05
=lOMT
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: First names and beginner lists

2001-04-17 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi azrael,

On 17 April 2001 at  08:00:12 -0400 (which was 13:00 where I  live)
azrael wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these
points:

a I'd prefer the use of my full real name however I'm unsure of my
a exposure (security) on some use-groups I'm exploring. Azrael
a minimizes one more factor of information sharing. I'm Michael Kelly
a and new to the TBUDL and The Bat.

Please be assured that this group is private although the member names
(but not addresses) do appear in the archives.

a It seems there is a German beginners list for The Bat users. Is
a there anything comparable in English?

The TBUDL *is* the beginners list. Earlier this year we set up a new
list - TBTECH - to take the more esoteric traffic from the main TBUDL.
Once in a while I have to step in and remind people that certain
topics should really be discussed there for this very reason:

a The level of expertise here is quite esoteric for a newbie taking
a his first awkward steps with such a powerful tool.

Please feel free to ask any question you have here. That *is* the
purpose of this list.

a While the FAQ contains a wealth of information I'm very grateful
a for, it too is geared toward a more sophisticated user than myself.

Don't be put off - all levels of questions are welcome.

moderator
May I take this opportunity to remind members of the existence and
purpose of the TBTECH list for the purpose of discussion more esoteric
issues, especially Regular Expressions and using TB as a mailing list
manager.
/moderator

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH
 
[ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com  ]
[Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs   ]

TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04)
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness

iQA/AwUBOtw0ATnkJKuSnc2gEQLIowCgxwh1dmolIJQCStOQn3HIJUa7UxIAn3w7
nnLLN0DWiM4mwkGoOy3c3eog
=YrlM
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: First names and beginner lists

2001-04-17 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Michael,

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 08:00:12 [ -0400 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'First names and beginner lists':

Michael While the FAQ contains a wealth of information I'm very
Michael grateful for, it too is geared toward a more sophisticated
Michael user than myself.

  TB! is a handful  it's weakest link is it's documentation.

  But when you begin to use TB! you will catch on to it's design. As
  a relative newbie myself, I suggest the best way to begin is to
  play around with the program. Questions will defintely arise from
  your usage  reading other's questions/answers on this list.

  Then ask your own questions. The members of this list are
  *extremely* supportive. No question is considered stupid. You may
  be referred to a FAQ file or some other source but then the info
  will be in context  easier to digest.

  Welcome to The Bat! cave ;-)

  HTH

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.51
ICQ 41116329



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Administrator and more

2001-04-17 Thread Karin Spaink

On 16-04-2001 at 23:48, Michal Kozusznik kindly wrote:
 Saturday, April 14, 2001, 5:12:12 PM, Karin Spaink wrote:

 You'll need to install TB as Windows administrator. Then,
 *within* TB, go to Options -- Network  Administration --
 Groups, and group names: Name1, Name2 etc and give them User
 rights. Make sure to create one Admin account and give it
 administrator rights.

 OK.  I'll  try. But what account is an Administrator one under W98 ???

I'm not that familioar with Win98; I use NT. But probably
your own suggestion would work:

 Is   it   this   one,  without  any  registering  (ESC  on  user  name
 requester)???



- K -

-- 

Nell discovered that a smoothly functioning system 
was much harder to puzzle out than one that was 
broken. 
  - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Sir Jinx!


On  4/17/2001  1:43:38  PM,  on the subject "Sending to a address book
group" A Curtis Martin said:
   
 ACM Even  if  you  simply type in the group handle and tab out of the
ACM To:  field,  TB!  will  detect the handle name and you'll see the
ACM 'list' added to the handle automatically.

I  was  about to ask the same question like Douglas's, so I tried what
you  suggested.  Well,  I have a group of friends from my high-school,
and  I typed 'GIM' as a handle. Now, when I type GIM in 'TO' all I get
is 'GIM list' without addresses!!! Did I miss something?

Dejan
-- 

--
Message written at 4:03 PM
Email Client The Bat 1.51
--

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Sir,

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 16:13:04 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sending to a address book group':

Sir I  was  about to ask the same question like Douglas's, so I tried what
Sir you  suggested.  Well,  I have a group of friends from my high-school,
Sir and  I typed 'GIM' as a handle. Now, when I type GIM in 'TO' all I get
Sir is 'GIM list' without addresses!!! Did I miss something?


  No  yes. No you did not miss anything because TB! will expand the
  list internally  send it to all the group members automoatically.
  Yes you did miss something because you have not read my
  explanation of this situation further up in this thread. I think I
  explained it step by step but if this is not clear enough, I will
  be happy to try some more.

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.51
ICQ 41116329



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Sir Jinx!



On  4/17/2001  4:32:27  PM,  on the subject "Sending to a address book
group" Jan Rifkinson said:

JR No  yes. No you did not miss anything because TB! will expand the
JR list internally  send it to all the group members automoatically.
JR Yes   you  did  miss  something  because  you  have  not  read  my
JR explanation of this situation further up in this thread. I think I
JR explained  it step by step but if this is not clear enough, I will
JR be happy to try some more.

I  suppose  that  this  question  was discussed _a lot_ on the list [I
returned  just  today  on  the  list,  after  a long leave] so I would
appreciate if you would explain the matter to me privately.

Thanks,
Dejan
-- 

--
Message written at 5:05 PM
Email Client The Bat 1.51
--

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Ron Secord

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Sir,

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, at 16:13:04 [GMT +0200] (10:13 AM where I live) you
wrote the following in regards to "Sending to a address book group":

SJ Now, when I type GIM in 'TO' all I get
SJ is 'GIM list' without addresses!!! Did I miss something?

No you didn't. TB! will automatically fill in the addresses upon sending.
You won't see it happen, but it does...

- --
Regards,
  Ron Secord
Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/7
Under Windows 98 SE 4.10. A 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04)
Comment: Digitally signed for authenticity!

iQA/AwUBOtxQ5T3g1/Rev158EQIPpwCfQu1M0ERNV4PrdiQ8PMvIq42JvEUAn134
fYinfmOD5Zu44Q84poERRfdH
=tvYr
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Dierk Haasis

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Nick!

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 at 5:19:24 PM you wrote:

 I don't think you missed anything, as long as the AB Group "GIM"... which
 I presume is the "Handle" for this AB Group... has all the contacts listed
 individually. The key seems to be the word list following the Group Name
 in the To: field. If that is there, then you may rest assured the message
 will be delivered to each Member. :o)


I hope I am not totally off, has anyone mentioned the "Mass Mailing"
feature invoked from within the AB? Works the same way only everybody
gets his own (private) message with no other addresses revealed.

Yes, I really like that one. :-)

- --
Dierk Haasis

PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys

The Bat 1.52 Beta/7

Windows 95 4.0 1212 C

To live is like to love, all reason is against it and all healthy
instinct for it. (Samuel Butler)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt
Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom!

iQA/AwUBOtxX2PTo1oA8g8dLEQKVMgCgi6mhXZtGS8hoGpOQ51I9TTSfqh0AoNmd
AnX18La8uOowvqHZ8BKTtzdx
=K1xb
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Sir,

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 17:09:47 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sending to a address book group':

Sir [I returned just today on the list, after a long leave] so I
Sir would appreciate if you would explain the matter to me
Sir privately.

  You may not know this but TBUDL has archives of all the msgs in a
  searchable form that is quite useful in situations like this. For
  that you go to URL

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/

  There you can search for the subject or scan the msgs which are
  also in chronological order as well as being listed by thread.

  In this particular case, I did the looking for you so you can
  click on "Sending to a address book group, Ottar Grimstad" to
  follow the thread.

  Alternatively if you just want to read only my comments they are @ URLs

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg23737.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg23777.html

  HTH

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.51
ICQ 41116329



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Nick Andriash

On April 17, 2001, at 8:48:55 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 I hope I am not totally off, has anyone mentioned the "Mass Mailing"
 feature invoked from within the AB? Works the same way only everybody
 gets his own (private) message with no other addresses revealed.

How does one access that feature?  I have looked through the AB but there
is no mention of "Mass Mailing", nor is there any mention of it in the
Help Files. shrug


Nick

  ___
-=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- 
  [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10  A ] 
   [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ]  
  ___

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





New User : the Mail Ticker does not appear anymore

2001-04-17 Thread Olivier Mascia

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello,

I'm new to The Bat!. I had to abandon my idea of running it against my
IMAP server, but as it looks there are so many other usefull things in
The Bat!, I reverted to a plain POP3 account. I'm now discovering the
special aspects of this nice program.

First problem : the Mail Ticker does not appear anymore.

I checked in the Options menu : Mail Ticker is set to Show
Automatically. Also, the Show unread messages on MailTicker is checked
for all folders.

What could explain this behaviour ?
Thanks so much,

- --
Olivier Mascia,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T.I.P. Group S.A.,  www.tipgroup.com

Using The Bat! v1.51 on
Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i

iQA/AwUBOtxbCqSbOXgumurfEQI6cQCg7nCKXTmzI43eB3UZKbum/7PSpbgAmgJV
QHMI44xuMUTwerJBZQp7i9iy
=GHJy
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: New User : the Mail Ticker does not appear anymore

2001-04-17 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Olivier,

On 17 April 2001 at  18:02:26 +0200 (which was 17:02 where I  live)
Olivier Mascia wrote to TBUDL and made these points:

OM First problem : the Mail Ticker does not appear anymore.

OM I checked in the Options menu : Mail Ticker is set to Show
OM Automatically. Also, the Show unread messages on MailTicker is
OM checked for all folders.

OM What could explain this behaviour ?

What can sometime cause this is that the ticker has been moved to a
position whereby it is off-screen. Some jigging in the registry is one
way of bringing back to visibility.

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH
 
[ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com  ]
[Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs   ]

TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04)
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness

iQA/AwUBOtxsKjnkJKuSnc2gEQKmWACgpjFTreOUGivW8WtsC5+AKl898iIAn35g
aBdhFOmhYe6TfOGu9OR8k1Yi
=1hS2
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Nick,

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 09:01:28 [ -0700 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sending to a address book group':

Nick How does one access that feature?  I have looked through the AB but there
Nick is no mention of "Mass Mailing"


  Nick, its a function that you use via the AB. Look under file.
  Amongst other things, you'll need to create a template msg. Then
  you apply it from a special AB set up just for the mass mailing.
  It's pretty nifty. I would suggest experimenting with a few names
  just to get the idea first.

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.51
ICQ 41116329



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: First names and beginner lists

2001-04-17 Thread Thomas

Hallo azrael/Michael,

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:00:12 -0400 GMT (17/04/2001, 20:00 +0800 GMT),
azrael wrote:


a Hello TBUDL,

a Hello Thomas;

aI'd prefer the use of my full real name however I'm unsure of my
a exposure (security) on some use-groups I'm exploring.

You have been answered the question about the English beginner's list:
this is it. :-)

As for the full name, and you have addressed me personally, I have
explained earlier why I won't use it; I have my reasons. Kindly accept
that I use only my first name here. If I write in a manner you don't
like, please sent your complaint to the moderators, who know me well.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.

When nobody is looking, Power Users pretend their mouse is a toy car,
and race it around the desk. 

Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49g
under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 
using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Next/Prev message after a delete...

2001-04-17 Thread Olivier Mascia

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello,

I'm not really satisfied with the way the cursor moves in a folder
when I press the Del key to trash one message. It may be configurable,
but I have found it.

The Bat! seems to insist on moving the cursor to the 'next' message, right
'after' the one I just deleted. My problem is that this is the 'next'
line in the folder list, the one *below*, always. I like to have my
folders sorted on "Created" (or Received) in Descending order (the
most recent message on top of the window). When sorted that way, if I
delete the message on the 4th line of the list, the cursor stays on
the fourth line of the list (after the deletion). That is : it moved
to the 'next' after the deleted, but that 'next' is actually the
previous for me.

I admit it is a little detail, but it would be *so* much more
comfortable to have it move to the logical "next" (the previous line
== the next more recent message) in that case.

Is there a way to do that ?


Olivier Mascia,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T.I.P. Group S.A.,  www.tipgroup.com

Using The Bat! v1.51 on
Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i

iQA/AwUBOtxgMKSbOXgumurfEQIOBQCgmuOmD4BroSprEuClSbsnPKbR3zsAnRJI
b5YBK/432eA9VVWib/vWouCW
=qnMS
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: New User : the Mail Ticker does not appear anymore

2001-04-17 Thread Olivier Mascia

OM First problem : the Mail Ticker does not appear anymore.
OM I checked in the Options menu : Mail Ticker is set to Show
OM Automatically. Also, the Show unread messages on MailTicker is
OM checked for all folders.

MDP What can sometime cause this is that the ticker has been moved to a
MDP position whereby it is off-screen. Some jigging in the registry is one
MDP way of bringing back to visibility.

Thanks Mark !

Unfortunately, though this looked very plausible (because I had to
temporarily replace my 1280x1024 LCD with an old less-capable CRT in
1024x768 res), tweaking the registry (stopping The Bat, removing the
MailTicker registry key, restarting TheBat, checking and flipping the
Mail Ticker settings) did not solve my problem.

Not a terrible issue, but I wonder what might have caused this.

--
Olivier Mascia,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T.I.P. Group S.A.,  www.tipgroup.com

Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows NT
5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Setting Sign when completed option per folder ?

2001-04-17 Thread Olivier Mascia

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Would it be possible to set the "Sign when completed" option on a per
folder basis ? I have folders where I'm interested to always sign
messages and other not.

- --
Olivier Mascia,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T.I.P. Group S.A.,  www.tipgroup.com

Using The Bat! v1.51
on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i

iQA/AwUBOtxjeqSbOXgumurfEQJJPwCfWdheKKhepJk+WINo1EfdVvo3l1QAoIHe
p6fcOyfLyUuMt6lSjzK6WxZs
=S82v
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Dierk Haasis

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Jan!

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 at 6:19:24 PM you wrote:

   Nick, its a function that you use via the AB. Look under file.
   Amongst other things, you'll need to create a template msg. Then
   you apply it from a special AB set up just for the mass mailing.

To clear that up a bit: You need at least one QT for which you have to
check "Use for Mass Mailing".

I really like the way the programmers implemented that - even as it
led me astray at first. You cannot see the feature if you haven't set
it up by making the QT.

Don't show anything to the user if he cannot use it. Isn't that the
way newer MS software works?

- --
Dierk Haasis

PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys

The Bat 1.52 Beta/7

Windows 95 4.0 1212 C

Nur dem ntzt das Lob, der den Tadel zu schtzen versteht. (Robert
Schumann)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt
Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom!

iQA/AwUBOtxkuPTo1oA8g8dLEQI7dgCgl4CXC+iikTUjCDNjgqHmJ5DHsuQAnRCv
WEZwiteMJt7LAUPYmM86GlI8
=R+sV
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

--
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Setting Sign when completed option per folder ?

2001-04-17 Thread Dierk Haasis

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Olivier!

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 at 6:38:28 PM you wrote:

 Would it be possible to set the "Sign when completed" option on a per
 folder basis ? I have folders where I'm interested to always sign
 messages and other not.

Marck, please don't hit me. ;-)

1. Uncheck the sign option in the menu or PGP options.

2. Put the macro %SIGNCOMPLETE at the end of a folder template
containing your message template for the folder. Alternatively use the
macro in individual templates for the addressees you want to sign
messages for.

Another way would be - if you sign rather many messages (I sign every
single message) - to do it the other way round. Then check the sign
option and use %NOSIGNCOMPLETE for the few you don't want to sign.



- --
Dierk Haasis

PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys

The Bat 1.52 Beta/7

Windows 95 4.0 1212 C

One man is as good as another - until he has written a book. (Benjamin
Jowett)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt
Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom!

iQA/AwUBOtxnm/To1oA8g8dLEQJR4ACg6/1bj2lq2JPvEuRFBVEu8+hXBhQAn0yy
97eMzbshYufwjPL90fFJGZ9g
=dcJo
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: Administrator and more

2001-04-17 Thread Diana Calder

Friday, April 13, 2001, 8:27:47 AM, Michal Kozusznik wrote:

snip

MK How can I use TB! in multiuser mode if:
MK 1. Administrator user cannot log-in from other windows account then
MK Admin account was installed?
MK 2. I can't get working second TB! account
MK 3. Any user logged in its account can receive mails of other users


In order to get ANY account to work under a different windows account,
just "add" that user account while logged in under that account. If
you use something other than the default file locations, you will have
to point the "new" Admin account to the correct location. Once you've
added the account under another windows account, it will be available.
(Note that re-creating the Admin account under a different windows
account will require logging into TB! with an account that has
add-user privileges, obviously - or re-installing TB! over top of
itself). Hmm, guess that sounds sort of confusing. OK, let's say that,
for example, you created the TB! administrator account "TBAdmin" while
logged into Windows as "Administrator". Now you want to be able to
access the same account while logged into Windows as "Joe". So, log
into Windows as "Joe", then run TB! and add a user account. Name the
user account "TBAdmin" and point the user folders to the same location
as you did the first time around. That's all there is to it! There is
no need to install TB! into multiple folders or anything else - you're
just re-creating the Registry key for that TB! account under another
Windows account (this could probably be done by exporting then
importing the registry keys as well, but unless you need to do it for
a LOT of accounts, it's probably easier to just re-add the TB! user
account).



-- 
Best regards,
 Dianamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: Setting Sign when completed option per folder ?

2001-04-17 Thread Olivier Mascia

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

...
DH 2. Put the macro %SIGNCOMPLETE at the end of a folder template
...
DH Dierk Haasis

This software is trully amazingly amazing !

- --
Olivier Mascia,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T.I.P. Group S.A.,  www.tipgroup.com

Using The Bat! v1.51
on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i

iQA/AwUBOtxp8KSbOXgumurfEQI+1QCeKLid3TyBoWxr2uIwdiNEIKnRJz0AmwTl
lZFoEJpGTTUS2TcWfNXpujjU
=VoWu
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Transferring server details

2001-04-17 Thread Alastair Scott

I  had  occasion  to  transfer my 7 backup email accounts from Outlook
Express  5.5  - I would not dream of using OE for my principal account
:)

OE does this transfer rather neatly via an .iaf file per account which
it  can  export and import. I had intended to move the accounts to The
Bat!  but found there was no import facility for the .iaf file; thus I
put  the  backup accounts onto OE as I couldn't face typing in all the
details again.

Now  the .iaf file is not frightening; it is binary but the individual
fields,  apart  from  password,  look  eminently  extractable  with no
encryption or other tricks.

It  would  be  useful  if  an 'import Outlook Express account details'
option  could  be  added  to  The  Bat!.  It  can already import whole
accounts* (Tools | Import Messages | Mailbox Import Wizard) but that's
a  sledgehammer  to  crack  a  nut;  for  backup  or infrequently-used
accounts the server details are enough ...

Alastair

*  minuscule  typo  -  the radio button should read 'Microsoft Outlook
Express 5.xx' as we're well past 5.0 now.

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Privacy and baby steps

2001-04-17 Thread azrael

Hello Marck,

Please be assured that this group is private although the member
names
(but not addresses) do appear in the archives.  

I use Azrael not for any concern with TBUDL but rather because I
post to hardware use-groups with munchkin hackers of dubious
repute and switch between groups and forums frequently. I'd screw
up and post more than I'd wish in the wrong place. Even
Opera-users was hit by a virus or worm a while back.

 The TBUDL *is* the beginners list.  

 I'd feared as much. I know there is a huge gap between my
 awarenesses and those of say Nick A., Allie or Douglas and terms
 like Regex, PGP, or XLAT are all new to me. I've been making do
 with the Compuserve mail client too long and have consequently
 learned nothing.

Please feel free to ask any question you have here. That *is* the
purpose of this list.   

 Then please feel equally free to chuckle at my missteps. Earlier
 today I thought I'd mailed a sensitive message to my entire
 address book *AND* the TBUDL. aack!
-- 
May I take this opportunity to remind members of the existence and
purpose of the TBTECH list for the purpose of discussion more
esoteric
issues, especially Regular Expressions and using TB as a mailing
list
manager.  

 I_copied_the Regex for later use when I have a clue how to use
 it.

 Thanks Marck,
Best regards,
 azrael aka ./michael

 AMD TBird 1,000 MHz / 384 Mb / X-15 Cheetah / W2K SP1 / Opera 5.10 / The Bat 
v1.51 / Genome@home v0.93 

  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: FAQ's and sealing wax

2001-04-17 Thread Jan Rifkinson

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello michael,

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 14:04:34 [ -0400 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'FAQ's and sealing wax':

michael I've been exploring some of the FAQ files and have noted
michael that many presume at least a certain basic familiarity with
michael the nomenclature. I'd do best to start with a glossary.

  Sorry, can't help you there.

- --
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.51
ICQ 41116329

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i

iQA/AwUBOtyMXfvZew4/FKBgEQL0pgCgkt23hRc2j9I7abOewuJo1dLguKYAn3oU
jBlbW+40qkfQlG8WPA/ERgGD
=bnwL
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: FAQ's and sealing wax

2001-04-17 Thread David Robert Austen

There's a usability issue here in the discussion of FAQs.

Makes sense that "newbies" be asked to contribute some special FAQs
for other newbies. "Old pros" can "look over the shoulder" and be sure
the facts are right.

But the newbie's own descriptions and labels (nomenclature) will
likely be more appropriate for the other newbies that have general
questions.

It is very difficult for "senior users" to anticipate the newebie
questions and remember how puzzling it all was for us.


Hell, I'm still puzzled a lot of the time.



My two cents.


David




 From: David Robert Austen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

a Hello Jan,

a As
a   a relative newbie myself, I suggest the best way to begin is to
a   play around with the program. Questions will defintely arise from
a   your usage  reading other's questions/answers on this list.

a   Then ask your own questions. The members of this list are
a   *extremely* supportive. No question is considered stupid. You may
a   be referred to a FAQ file or some other source but then the info
a   will be in context  easier to digest.

a   Welcome to The Bat! cave ;-)  

aI've been exploring some of the FAQ files and have noted that
amany presume at least a certain basic familiarity with the
anomenclature. I'd do best to start with a glossary.

a   ./michael

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: learners as teachers

2001-04-17 Thread azrael

Hello David ,

Makes sense that "newbies" be asked to contribute some special FAQs
for other newbies. "Old pros" can "look over the shoulder" and be
sure
the facts are right.

But the newbie's own descriptions and labels (nomenclature) will
likely be more appropriate for the other newbies that have general
questions.

It is very difficult for "senior users" to anticipate the newebie
questions and remember how puzzling it all was for us. 

   I agree. Two years back as I began learning hardware I promised
   myself not to lose touch with entry level "fog" and to remember
   that confusion. With time I saw that grow harder as I became
   accustomed to acronyms and verbal shorthand.

 I have a question for you. If I hit reply to your post the entire
 text is quoted. Instead I copy the relevant text and click on New
 Message.

 Is it necessary or polite to place these  quoted text  marks to
 indicate quoted text?

 I'd like to get correctly formatted (word wrap etc.) but don't
 know the settings. I'm not at a point where I have preferences
 yet so volunteered settings are appreciated.

  ./michael

AMD TBird 1,000 MHz / 384 Mb / X-15 Cheetah / W2K SP1 / Opera 5.10 / The 
Bat v1.51 / Genome@home v0.93 

-- 
Best regards,
 azrael  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: IE5 Mailto:

2001-04-17 Thread Dave Gorman

Hello Richard,

Monday, April 16, 2001, 1:35:12 PM, you wrote:

RT   For various reasons, Eudora is set as my default e-mailer although I haven't
RT   used it for over a year.

Periodically I have to open Eudora to walk a client through email settings. I
have found that in simply *opening* Eudora, it seems to set itself as the
default "mailto" client. Add that to the list of things I *don't* like about
Eudora!


-- 
Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! v1.49 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381
Service Pack 6



_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Nick Andriash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On April 17, 2001, at 9:19:24 AM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

  Nick, its a function that you use via the AB. Look under file.

I can't even get to first base here! :o(  I'm using 1.52 Beta 1 still
because I find the latest Beta's too buggy. Would that be a problem,
because under the File menu in the AB, I see no mention of "Mass Mailing".


Nick

  ___
-=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- 
  [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10  A ] 
   [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ]  
  ___

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 7.0.4
Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

iQA/AwUBOtyZvMUChHR7o/3OEQLteACgg6GrKzkSaGfJlv+6kgbFepR0Zy4AoIdx
iGqI7vnqOPMuD05Z38Dt5yIH
=uZmU
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: FAQ's and sealing wax

2001-04-17 Thread ztrader

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 11:47:27 AM, David Robert Austen wrote:

DRA Makes sense that "newbies" be asked to contribute some special
DRA FAQs for other newbies. "Old pros" can "look over the shoulder"
DRA and be sure the facts are right.

DRA But the newbie's own descriptions and labels (nomenclature) will
DRA likely be more appropriate for the other newbies that have general
DRA questions.

Very good idea! TB really NEEDS better documentation, especially for
newbies. Would it make sense to post the FAQ sections, as they are
completed, to a special list - BatFaqs, for example?

In emails, the idea would be to build a FAQ section instead of simply
answering a question. The form of emails would be different, with
answers placed within or at the end of an already-existing answer,
without quotes, instead of the usual separate add-on to the previous
email. When all the answers have been combined into a single Q and A
form,it would be forwarded to the special list.

Granted, this might mush together answers from several people, and
make it a bit harder to see who said what, but the final result would
be a question and answer pair that could become part of a FAQ
directly. What do you think?

ztrader

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Privacy and baby steps

2001-04-17 Thread Dave Gorman

Hello azrael,

Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 12:55:42 PM, you wrote:

a  The TBUDL *is* the beginners list.  

a  I'd feared as much. I know there is a huge gap between my
a  awarenesses and those of say Nick A., Allie or Douglas and terms
a  like Regex, PGP, or XLAT are all new to me. I've been making do
a  with the Compuserve mail client too long and have consequently
a  learned nothing.

I would like to add my voice to others telling you to feel free to ask any and
all beginner level questions of the TBUDL list. First, I'm sure for every
question you fear is at too novice of a level for the group, there are other
beginners lurking in TBUDL that have the same question they haven't put to the
group for fear of looking foolish. Also, in spite of my having used TB! for
several months now, I still feel very much like a beginner simply because there
are so many things about TB! that I simply haven't had the time to explore.

I would also like to say that I have posted several beginner-level questions to
TBUDL and have *always* received prompt, courteous, and thorough help and
answers. TBUDL seems to encompass a broad range of users and topics, but in my
experience, even the simplest of questions is welcome.

-- 
Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! v1.49 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381
Service Pack 6



_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Jan Rifkinson

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Nick,

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:30:06 [ -0700 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sending to a address book group':

Nick I can't even get to first base here! :o(  I'm using 1.52 Beta 1 still
Nick because I find the latest Beta's too buggy. Would that be a problem,
Nick because under the File menu in the AB, I see no mention of "Mass Mailing".

  I don't know if the beta has any relevance here; rather the fact
  that I omitted one little fact that Dierk picked up on -- you have
  to create one QT  check "Use for new mail/mass mailings" to show
  TB! you intend to use it for a mass mailing before it will even
  show up under AB/file/use for mass mailing. Sorry for the
  confusion.

- --
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.51
ICQ 41116329

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i

iQA/AwUBOtycsfvZew4/FKBgEQIvVwCgpaTepwJnArYumMRIQvkdWuBCM9kAn1p5
fteB34D3QkdA2MFvFIAB1Iog
=R21g
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: SendTo

2001-04-17 Thread Ottar Grimstad

Hello Dierk,

Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 8:56:42 AM, you wrote:

   When I start a new message with the SendTo function in Word or
   Windows Explorer, it starts a new message in The Bat as it
   should, but

DH Is this "SendTo" from the rightclick menu? Or from the file menu?

Rightclick

   2. My templates is not activated.

DH Is an address in the TO field?

No
  

-- 
Best regards,
  Ottar Grimstad, Norway
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.online.no/~ottgrims
Using The Bat! 1.51 on Windows 98 version 4,10



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: learners as teachers

2001-04-17 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi azrael,

On 17 April 2001 at  15:18:21 -0400 (which was 20:18 where I  live)
azrael wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

a I have a question for you. If I hit reply to your post the entire
a text is quoted. Instead I copy the relevant text and click on New
a Message.

This is not a good way to do things, especially not with other TB
users. TB is a "threading" email client and by making a reply in that
manner, you break the threading.

a Is it necessary or polite to place these  quoted text  marks to
a indicate quoted text?

That is also bad practice for TB use. Common practice is to use ''
signs at the beginning of quoted text. In TB, quoted text shows as a
different colour, but *not* when you use a non-standard quoting
method. TB offers multiple quote prefix methods (see Account ..
properties .. Templates .. Reply) and, for this list in particular, I
prefer to use "Initials" because, when many people are involved in a
conversation, it is easier to distinguish who said what a few replies
into it.

a I'd like to get correctly formatted (word wrap etc.) but don't know
a the settings. I'm not at a point where I have preferences yet so
a volunteered settings are appreciated.

I use Auto-wrap with a line length of 70. That's the main setting. I
also use Ctrl+Shift+F to toggle on/off auto-format in real time
because sometimes it's a "good thing" and sometimes it's just "in the
way".

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH
 
[ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com  ]
[Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs   ]

TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04)
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness

iQA/AwUBOtyfJjnkJKuSnc2gEQKwswCgqPYdpssq04+kfsN4RIs1W8luRnoAoNcf
BNOJvg2APDKg6aTi7Ut+zJnb
=Gqt+
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Preview Pane: Fit width

2001-04-17 Thread jlaikan

Hello TBUDL,

Most of the time I preview messages. I set "Split Mode"
to "Horizontal Split" and drag the "Preview Pane" to a little
more than half screen width.

Is there a way to get the message text  fit within the width
of the "Preview Pane" so that I don't have to scroll horizontally?


-- 
Best regards,
 jlaikan  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: IE5 Mailto:

2001-04-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin

Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 2:27:24 PM, you wrote:

 Periodically I have to open Eudora to walk a client through email settings. I
 have found that in simply *opening* Eudora, it seems to set itself as the
 default "mailto" client. Add that to the list of things I *don't* like about
 Eudora!

It shouldn't.  All it should do is ask you if you want it to make
itself the default.

-- 
Dwight A. Corrin
P O Box 47828
Wichita KS 67201-7828
316.263.9706  fax 316.263.6385
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: FAQ's and sealing wax

2001-04-17 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi ztrader,

On 17 April 2001 at  12:34:23 -0700 (which was 20:34 where I  live)
ztrader wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

DRA But the newbie's own descriptions and labels (nomenclature) will
DRA likely be more appropriate for the other newbies that have
DRA general questions.

z Very good idea! TB really NEEDS better documentation, especially for
z newbies. Would it make sense to post the FAQ sections, as they are
z completed, to a special list - BatFaqs, for example?

In the next couple of weeks I intend to rework the main "How Do I" FAQ
page in a 3d "drill down" model with clearer "sections" and "topics"
and sideways links between related issues. That would be a good time
to assemble new FAQ QAs for the page. The way I will be building this
page makes it really easy to maintain and add to, although it will
still remain an administrative task.

We can thrash out new additions here on TBUDL. I'm sure other
newcomers will only benefit from such debates.

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH
 
[ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com  ]
[Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs   ]

TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04)
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness

iQA/AwUBOtyukznkJKuSnc2gEQLqlwCgm+ZWSyN5KZy9AnzFjRsdPuFgkHoAoKPW
SS1Sl6+jGUqhM2FmvJJJ7Kde
=LOcv
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: learners as teachers

2001-04-17 Thread A Curtis Martin

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:53:10 +0100, Marck thoughtfully wrote the
following:

a I have a question for you. If I hit reply to your post the entire
a text is quoted. Instead I copy the relevant text and click on New
a Message.

MDP This is not a good way to do things, especially not with other TB
MDP users. TB is a "threading" email client and by making a reply in that
MDP manner, you break the threading.

Also, if you wish to quote only selected text, hit F4 after selecting the
text. This will generate a reply with only the selected text quoted.

Another option would be to remove the %Quotes macro from your reply
template and enable in the message editor 'View'= 'Original Text'. From
the original text window you can copy and paste as a quotation what you
like.

- --
Allie,
 -= A. Curtis Martin =-
List Moderator (and fellow end-user)
   The Bat! v1.52 Beta/4 \\// Win2k (SP1)


-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04..
Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2   (Sealed for security).

iQA/AwUBOtyvblfJ62ArBxfiEQJPtwCg2NkPaB9XWTWqK5lGaAHW8pKHLT4An2A7
jmU5Hbc7XCd/Cz39et3Uwn+B
=xWHp
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Administrator and more

2001-04-17 Thread Michal Kozusznik

Hello Diana,

Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 7:08:31 PM, Diana Calder wrote:

 There is
 no need to install TB! into multiple folders or anything else - you're
 just re-creating the Registry key for that TB! account under another
 Windows account (this could probably be done by exporting then
 importing the re

It's  very important what you've wrote. It's exactly what I asked for.
I'll  try  this.  But  if I have admin account created under other Win
account, I will not be able to create another accounts because it can
be done with admin account only (and it is available under another
account). But as you say, I'll try to install TB! over existing
installation.

In  any  way, mail accounts administration under TB! is very confusing
and can screw mind a lot of people. I suggest (for developers) to make
it easier. I mean, if I decide to personalizing accounts by giving the
user-name  and  pass,  these account should be accessible in any time,
from any windows account in easy way.

Thanx all for help. I will notify you about final solution (if I find
that one)

Best regards
-- 
*** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoop ***
***   music *** Taekwon-do  ***
***  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
***   http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd   ***



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[3]: IE5 Mailto:

2001-04-17 Thread Dave Gorman

Hello Dwight,

Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 3:39:24 PM, you wrote:

DAC It shouldn't.  All it should do is ask you if you want it to make
DAC itself the default.

In that case, maybe my copy of Eudora is just over-eager! Nonetheless, I just
tested it as follows:

1) Mailto urls working correctly opening a new addressed email in TB!
2) I opened Eudora Light 3.0 -- I did not send OR receive any email.
3) I closed Eudora.
4) Mailto urls now open with Eudora. IE5.0(Tools/Internet Options/Programs)
still lists my default mail client as TB!. Only the url:mailto association has
changed by opening Eudora, all other email associations are still correct.


-- 
Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! v1.49 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381
Service Pack 6



_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: learners as teachers

2001-04-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin

Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 4:02:33 PM, you wrote:

 Also, if you wish to quote only selected text, hit F4 after selecting the
 text. This will generate a reply with only the selected text quoted.

This is certainly a key item to be included in the new FAQ listing.  I
think this was the question which led me to subscribe to this list.

I would like to add, in light of recent discussion, that I have been
on lots of lists, and this is one of the friendliest yet most focused
lists I've seen.

-- 
Dwight A. Corrin
P O Box 47828
Wichita KS 67201-7828
316.263.9706  fax 316.263.6385
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Quick Search Toolbar

2001-04-17 Thread jlaikan

Hello TBUDL,

Sometimes I get the following problem on entering text into the Quick
Search Toolbar:-

1) During typing, the toolbar refuses to take
additional text.

2) On typing a new search word, it's the previous one that appears

Any reason for that?

  

-- 
Best regards,
 jlaikan  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Quick Search Toolbar

2001-04-17 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello jlaikan,

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 02:46:34 [ +0400 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Quick Search Toolbar':

jlaikan Sometimes I get the following problem on entering text into the Quick
jlaikan Search Toolbar:-

jlaikan 1) During typing, the toolbar refuses to take
jlaikan additional text.

  That's because there is no match

jlaikan 2) On typing a new search word, it's the previous one that appears

jlaikan Any reason for that?

  Refresh the search. Also there is a universal search which you can
  get to by the F7 key.

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.51
ICQ 41116329



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Preview Pane: Fit width

2001-04-17 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello jlaikan,

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 00:30:12 [ +0400 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Preview Pane: Fit width':

jlaikan Is there a way to get the message text  fit within the width
jlaikan of the "Preview Pane" so that I don't have to scroll horizontally?

  Try View - 'Full height account tree'

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.51
ICQ 41116329



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Quick Search Toolbar

2001-04-17 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi jlaikan,

On 17 April 2001 at  02:46:34 +0400 (which was 23:46 where I  live)
jlaikan wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:


j 1) During typing, the toolbar refuses to take additional text.

It is incremental and searches immediately. If you type the next
letter and no match is found, the last letter typed is removed.

j 2) On typing a new search word, it's the previous one that appears

I don't quite understand the question. Sorry.

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH
 
[ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com  ]
[Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs   ]

TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04)
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness

iQA/AwUBOtzTbDnkJKuSnc2gEQJvMgCdEqznZOfcH0SGDGTRoqECMZPC9E8AoIe7
jyC5NA42BJfu1mgTZwEPCp5Z
=LviA
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: BatFaqs

2001-04-17 Thread Nick Andriash

On April 17, 2001, at 3:54:42 PM, azrael wrote:

 Hello ztrader ,

  Would it make sense to post the FAQ sections, as they are
 completed, to a special list - BatFaqs, for example?   

How about "BatFaqs for Newbies" ? or even "Basic BatFaqs".

Firstly Michael, I am having trouble following your posts with your rather
unorthodox style of quoting. Your replies would be much easier to read if
you adopt a style which incorporates that standard "" quote prefix
thereby allowing TB! to colour the quoted text. Additionally, your text
seems to be indented 6 or 7 spaces, but the indentation does not seem to
be uniform for some reason... mind you there are only 1 or 2 character
differences in your line length.

Secondly, you seem to somehow be taking replies to existing threads and
starting new threads with the reply. This has the obvious result of
breaking the existing threads making it difficult to follow who said what
on which thread.

I hope my criticism is not taken in a negative light, as it's meant to be
constructive in nature. ;o)


Nick

  ___
-=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- 
  [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10  A ] 
   [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ]  
  ___

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: threaded quoting

2001-04-17 Thread azrael

Hello Allie;

Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 5:03:44 PM, you wrote:

Tmtdc Also, if you wish to quote only selected text, hit F4 after selecting the
Tmtdc text. This will generate a reply with only the selected text quoted.

Tmtdc Another option would be to remove the %Quotes macro from your
reply Tmtdc template and enable in the message editor 'View'=
'Original Text'. From Tmtdc the original text window you can copy and
paste as a quotation what you like.

 Hitting F4 generated the above message. As I said earlier the %Quotes
 macro is a mystery to me. I don't understand it let alone dare to
 change it. At present only paste functions are usable in the message
 editor. Would 'View'= change that?   What if any function do the
 apostrophes ('View') have?  Are they omitted in actual practice?

 Could you or someone just explain the basics of threaded
 messaging?  How can I best take your comments out of my digest,
 quote them and then reply still keeping the integrity of the
 threading?

 At present I see that as highlight text, F4, and reply to
 individual thoughts (yours) by inserting my comments between
 them.

 Also, reply or F4 puts "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: bar of the message. Thus
 far I've been dutifully cleaning that up to the suggested reply
 address of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I suspect that's an
 unnecessary PITA but better than chancing a critique by
 mailer-daemon.
 
 ./michael

[P.S Allie; You brought my mentoring on yourself with all
 the great points you made about The Bat's superiority in your
 mail-client debate with Phil from Opera-users.  ;   ]



 Best regards,
azrael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: quote wrap

2001-04-17 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi azrael,

On 18 April 2001 at  19:48:18 -0400 (which was 00:48 where I  live)
azrael wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

a Did I do that correctly this time?

Mostly, yes, but I've had to go through and tidy up the bad job made
of my quotes. I don't know how that happened.

Generally, if I want to reply to a message, I hit "Reply" and end up
with neatly quoted text. I start at the top of that text, deleting
lines that are not relevant as I go until I reach a bit I want to say
something about. I open up a couple of blank lines so that I have a
clear space to type in and, with my cursor hard left, I type. I use
auto-wrap and auto-format to keep my text tidy. I take care not to
type into the next paragraph of quotes with auto-format on, because
that *really* messes things up. When I've finished, I keep deleting
until I hit the next this I have something to say about. I carry on
until my reply is complete and it looks as you see this message here.

a I haven't been able to understand a thing about the templates. The
a coding symbols %**% are meaningless to me at this point.

They follow a fairly simple syntax and mean things like "Original From
First Name" %OFFNAME or "To Address" %TOADDR. From these clues you may
well be able to extrapolate the meanings of many others. When writing
a template, there is a "Macros" (that's what these symbols are called
in TB - macros) button which has many of the macros available listed
with an English language definition in brackets alongside it. The help
file also contains a fairly good listing of these macros. Sadly
neither of these two sources are completely up to date.

Tmtdc I use Auto-wrap witlh a line length of 70. That's the main
Tmtdc setting. I also use Ctrl+Shift+F to toggle on/off auto-format
Tmtdc in real time because sometimes it's a "good thing" and
Tmtdc sometimes it's just "in the way".

a Under Utilities I've set Auto-Format, Auto-Wrap and Justify in
a autowrap. I don't see a place to set line length.

In the same window you should see a "Wrap text at" prompt. That's the
fella.

a Marck,  if  I  merely  hit  reply does auto-threading mean the
a software figures out much of the layout?

It's not about the format of *your* reply. It's about where your reply
gets placed in a folder. TB will thread messages according to hidden
(but industry standard) headers that show which messages your message
is in reply to and refers to. All related messages in a folder are
help in a "cascaded" layout so that it is easy to who replied to whom
in what subject.

a I  get TBUDL in digest form so I need to know how to say reply
a to  you and your remarks as distinguished from the rest of the
a digest.

Ah! I didn't realize that. That's why you have to make a new reply and
can't reply to the original messages. Well - that strikes out
everything in the preceding paragraph :-(. The only way that applies
is if you revert from the digest to receiving normal posts.

a I've noticed several ISP's use screen shots to walk users through
a setting up Outlook Express. ... The Faq has some examples like that
a I believe but I would love to see more.

Interesting. We will have to come up with some areas in which that
will be useful.

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH
 
[ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com  ]
[Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs   ]

TB! v1.52 Beta/5/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04)
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness

iQA/AwUBOtzmoTnkJKuSnc2gEQIBGQCg5/SvlQrlYd1yFLjFdvUIJ5KlY78An1Kk
5FA11wTRvWsCYE/uO34R06ww
=MIs0
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: quote wrap

2001-04-17 Thread Nick Andriash

On April 17, 2001, at 4:48:18 PM, azrael wrote:

 I  get TBUDL in digest form so I need to know how to say reply
 to  you and your remarks as distinguished from the rest of the
 digest.

Hmmm... Is there any way you can change your subscription to receive
normal mailings? I think a large part of your problems stem from how you
receive the Postings. :o(

  Under  Utilities  I've  set  Auto-Format,  Auto-Wrap  and  Justify in
  autowrap. I don't see a place to set line length.

Personally, I think you would be well advised *not* to set "Justify on
Auto-wrap", and under Options/Editor Preferences, try unchecking "Justify
on Wrap" and "Auto Indent". I think that will make for a much cleaner
looking reply.


Nick

  ___
-=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- 
  [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10  A ] 
   [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ]  
  ___

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Sir Jinx!


On  4/17/2001  5:53:21  PM,  on the subject "Sending to a address book
group" Jan Rifkinson said:

JR   In this particular case, I did the looking for you so you can
JR   click on "Sending to a address book group, Ottar Grimstad" to
JR   follow the thread.

JR Alternatively if you just want to read only my comments they are @
JR URLs

Thanks for the tip!

Dejan
-- 

--
Message written at 2:20 AM
Email Client The Bat 1.51
--



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: Sending to a address book group

2001-04-17 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Dejan,

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 02:21:10 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sending to a address book group':

Dejan Thanks for the tip!

  You're welcome.

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Using TB! v1.51
ICQ 41116329

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: threading

2001-04-17 Thread azrael

Hello Nick;

Tuesday, April 17, 2001, 9:35:25 PM, you kindly wrote:

Tmtdc Firstly Michael, I am having trouble following your posts with your rather
Tmtdc unorthodox style of quoting. Your replies would be much easier to read if
Tmtdc you adopt a style which incorporates that standard "" quote prefix
Tmtdc thereby allowing TB! to colour the quoted text. Additionally, your text
Tmtdc seems to be indented 6 or 7 spaces, but the indentation does not seem to
Tmtdc be uniform for some reason... mind you there are only 1 or 2 character
Tmtdc differences in your line length.

 I think it's more a case of *learn a syle* since I'm
 happy to adopt the standard here. What experience I've
 had before with threading was quite different. I can't
 account for the indentation. I did discover I'm set for a
 line length of 70.

Tmtdc Secondly, you seem to somehow be taking replies to existing threads and
Tmtdc starting new threads with the reply. This has the obvious result of
Tmtdc breaking the existing threads making it difficult to follow who said what
Tmtdc on which thread.

  I appreciate your feedback Nick but what you're seeing
  is out of my ignorance. In order to alter it I need to
  be shown correct format. While breaking up the threads
  may be obvious to you and others, I'm oblivious of it.
  How am I managing that? If subject change doesn't do it,
  what does?


Tmtdc I hope my criticism is not taken in a negative light, as it's meant to be
Tmtdc constructive in nature. ;o)

 And I accept it as such but please illustrate
 the *proper* manner and help me correct it.
 Just a guess but between macros, utilities,
 message editor choices, filters, templates,
 keys and character sets there must be a 1,000
 alternatives in how a message gets treated. I
 need to learn a few of the basic correct ones
 just now.

  If you reply to a message to start a new topic, it will have one
  or more of the following effects:

  1) Your  message  will  be  ignored  by those not following that
 thread.
  2) Everyone's threading for that message will be messed up.
  3) You may not get the answers your questions deserve.
  4) Threading purists will get annoyed.

.  Is changing the subject line altering the
threading?  I thought it didn't cause that effect.

 ./michael
  "--  "
  AMD TBird 1,000 MHz / 384 Mb / X-15 Cheetah / W2K SP1 / Opera 5.10 / 
The Bat v1.51 / Genome@home v0.93 

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: threading

2001-04-17 Thread Brian Clark

Hi azrael,

@ 12:24:01 AM on 4/18/2001, azrael wrote:

...
Tmtdc Secondly, you seem to somehow be taking replies to existing
Tmtdc threads and starting new threads with the reply. This has the
Tmtdc obvious result of breaking the existing threads making it
Tmtdc difficult to follow who said what on which thread.

a I appreciate your feedback Nick but what you're seeing is out of my
a ignorance. In order to alter it I need to be shown correct format.
a While breaking up the threads may be obvious to you and others, I'm
a oblivious of it. How am I managing that? If subject change doesn't
a do it, what does?

Go to View - View Threads By and play around a little bit. You'll
eventually get what Nick is trying to say.

If you open a message, copy all of the text, create a new message,
then paste that text in there, you've effectively started a new
thread.

For example, lets say before you do that you see (in your message
list):

[-] Frank went to town   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  12:28 AM
|__ Re: Frank went to[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:00 PM
|__ Re: Frank went tosomeoneelse@exampl  8:00 Mars Time
||__ Re: Frank went  [EMAIL PROTECTED]March 23 1985
|__ Re: Frank went to t  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Feb 35 1969

And then you decide to reply to that thread by creating a new message.
This is what you'll get when your message comes in:

Re:Frank went to town[EMAIL PROTECTED]   1:35 AM
[-] Frank went to town   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  12:28 PM
|__ Re: Frank went to[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:00 PM
|__ Re: Frank went tosomeoneelse@exampl  8:00 Mars Time
||__ Re: Frank went  [EMAIL PROTECTED]March 23 1985
|__ Re: Frank went to t  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Feb 35 1969

And if you sent your message half a day behind the last message in
that thread, your message ends up getting separated by tens of
messages, possibly:


Re:Frank went to town[EMAIL PROTECTED]   1:35 AM
[+] Hopeless in Seattle  [EMAIL PROTECTED]time
[+] Another thread   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   time
[+] etc..
[+] etc..
[+] etc..
[+] etc..
[+] etc..
[+] etc..
[+] etc..
[+] etc..
[-] Frank went to town   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  12:28 PM
|__ Re: Frank went to[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:00 PM
|__ Re: Frank went tosomeoneelse@exampl  8:00 Mars Time
||__ Re: Frank went  [EMAIL PROTECTED]March 23 1985
|__ Re: Frank went to t  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Feb 35 1969


a And I accept it as such but please illustrate the *proper* manner
a and help me correct it. Just a guess but between macros, utilities,
a message editor choices, filters, templates, keys and character sets
a there must be a 1,000 alternatives in how a message gets treated. I
a need to learn a few of the basic correct ones just now.


MDP??? If you reply to a message to start a new topic, it will have one or
MDP??? more of the following effects:

MDP??? 1) Your message will be ignored by those not following that
MDP??? thread.

This *does* happen, I assure you.

...
a Is changing the subject line altering the threading? I thought it
a didn't cause that effect.

No, not just changing the subject alone, but it is *rarely* needed. if
you need to change the subject, you probably need to start a new
*thread* (see: huge ASCII diagram at top).

-- 
 Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer
 PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8
 [TB! 1.52 Beta/7, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build  A]

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: threading

2001-04-17 Thread Nick Andriash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On April 17, 2001, at 9:24:01 PM, azrael wrote:

Tmtdc I hope my criticism is not taken in a negative light, as it's
Tmtdc meant to be constructive in nature. ;o)

  And I accept it as such but please illustrate
  the *proper* manner and help me correct it.
  Just a guess but between macros, utilities,
  message editor choices, filters, templates,
  keys and character sets there must be a 1,000
  alternatives in how a message gets treated. I
  need to learn a few of the basic correct ones
  just now.


Well, as you can see from the above, you have an effective line length of
45 characters. I don't know why you have such a huge indent on your reply,
but I suspect you still have "Auto Indent" (Options/Editor Preferences)
and/or "Justify on Auto-wrap" (Message Editor Toolbar/Utilities) checked.

I also note you have the initials "Tmtdc" attributed to my quote, and I
have no idea how that has happened. What do you have checked in
Account/Properties/Templates/Reply with regards to "Sender information
used for quotation"?

 Is changing the subject line altering the threading? I thought it didn't
 cause that effect.

Yes, for those that thread by Subject it will, but for those that thread
by reference number, it won't. Just to be on the safe side, you are best
not to change the Subject unless you start a whole new thread by creating
a brand new message... and not a reply.


Nick

  ___
-=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- 
  [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10  A ] 
   [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ]  
  ___

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 7.0.4
Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

iQA/AwUBOt0dI8UChHR7o/3OEQLfmgCgq6scfMCrXYQ9eL9nZ38uInEzkdMAni68
3jEgBat9LcA9AwtSE+VraSn8
=55/Q
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: threading

2001-04-17 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Nick,

@ 12:50:44 AM on 4/18/2001, Nick Andriash wrote:

...
NA Yes, for those that thread by Subject it will, but for those that
NA thread by reference number, it won't.

I'm glad you mentioned that. I forgot all about threading by subject.
*sigh* The Bat! is like a Swiss Army Chain Saw. :)

(But that's a good thing.)

-- 
 Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer
 PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8
 [TB! 1.52 Beta/7, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build  A]



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





can't delete text with del key anymore

2001-04-17 Thread André Engelhardt

Hi TBUDL,
 this is pretty weird and I have no idea what causes this behavior:

 I can't delete text in the Editor through the del key anymore. Only
 way to delete text is by selecting it, right click and selecting del
 from the menu. I noticed that in the dialogue that pops up on right
 click there is no key-command shown for the delete command.



 Thanks in advance Sorry if this is a stupid question I first wasn't
 even sure if I'd post it! :-(

-- 
Best regards and have a nice day
 Andr Engelhardt

/--\
|Eternal Tedium Sound  Media Design   |
|http://www.eternaltedium.com  |
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |
|Mobile: +49 162 751 8530 (sms capable)|
|PGP Key ID: 0x927EF264|
\--/

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: can't delete text with del key anymore

2001-04-17 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Andr,

@ 1:15:55 AM on 4/18/2001, Andr Engelhardt wrote:

AE Hi TBUDL,
AE  this is pretty weird and I have no idea what causes this behavior:

AE  I can't delete text in the Editor through the del key anymore. Only
AE  way to delete text is by selecting it, right click and selecting del
AE  from the menu. I noticed that in the dialogue that pops up on right
AE  click there is no key-command shown for the delete command.



AE  Thanks in advance Sorry if this is a stupid question I first wasn't
AE  even sure if I'd post it! :-(


-- 
 Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer
 PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8
 [TB! 1.52 Beta/7, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build  A]



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: can't delete text with del key anymore

2001-04-17 Thread Brian Clark


(Sorry for shooting blanks. It's evident that I should be in bed. I
 wasn't planning on replying to this because I really don't have an
 answer, but since I made a moron of myself, I'd better write
 something.)

Hi Andr,

@ 1:15:55 AM on 4/18/2001, Andr Engelhardt wrote:

...
AE  this is pretty weird and I have no idea what causes this behavior:

Yes that is pretty weird. I've never seen this in TB!.

AE I can't delete text in the Editor through the del key anymore.
AE Only way to delete text is by selecting it, right click and
AE selecting del from the menu.

Anything abnormal going on? For example, has it been a week since
you've rebooted? Installed any software lately? Uninstalled any
software lately?

AE I noticed that in the dialogue that pops up on right click there
AE is no key-command shown for the delete command.

You'll only get that if you select text first. That's normal (but you
should be able to hit the Del key and have it delete characters or
white-space, of course).

AE Thanks in advance Sorry if this is a stupid question I first
AE wasn't even sure if I'd post it! :-(

Doesn't sound stupid to me at all. I'd have asked this question as
well.

-- 
 Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer
 PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8
 [TB! 1.52 Beta/7, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build  A]

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re: can't delete text with del key anymore

2001-04-17 Thread Nick Andriash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On April 17, 2001, at 10:15:55 PM, Andr Engelhardt wrote:

  I can't delete text in the Editor through the del key anymore. Only way
  to delete text is by selecting it, right click and selecting del from
  the menu. I noticed that in the dialogue that pops up on right click
  there is no key-command shown for the delete command.

I won't show a Key Command equivalent because I think the "Delete" key is
pretty straight forward. ;o)  When you highlight text, you should be able
to simply hit the "Delete" key, or spacebar, and have the text deleted.
What happens you place the cursor *behind* a character and hit the delete
key? Is that character in fact deleted?


Nick

  ___
-=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- 
  [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10  A ] 
   [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ]  
  ___

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 7.0.4
Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

iQA/AwUBOt0lLcUChHR7o/3OEQLczwCgmgQs6Wg3fdECeoW6lya+P0TsNAoAoNyp
Up3R9yY6xKWp0An+j3G6ZHTV
=1wUT
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[2]: can't delete text with del key anymore

2001-04-17 Thread André Engelhardt

Hello Nick,

 On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 22:25:03GMT -0700 
(which was 7:25:03 AM where I live) you wrote:


NA I won't show a Key Command equivalent because I think the "Delete" key is
NA pretty straight forward. ;o)  When you highlight text, you should be able
NA to simply hit the "Delete" key, or spacebar, and have the text deleted.
NA What happens you place the cursor *behind* a character and hit the delete
NA key? Is that character in fact deleted?

Yes  selecting  text  and  pressing any key should delete the selected
text  but  it doesn't anymore.

All  the  del-key  does  is  that it deletes characters one by one but
except  for  the  "right-click-technique" there is no way I can delete
selected  text anymore.

It works fine in every other application and I haven't installed
anything lately or noticed anything unusual.

What I'll try to do now is re-install TB!

I'll keep you posted.



-- 
Best regards,
 Andr Engelhardt

/--\
|Eternal Tedium Sound  Media Design   |
|http://www.eternaltedium.com  |
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |
|Mobile: +49 162 751 8530 (sms capable)|
|PGP Key ID: 0x927EF264|
\--/

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Re[3]: can't delete text with del key anymore

2001-04-17 Thread André Engelhardt

AE What I'll try to do now is re-install TB!

That didn't fix the problem. :-(


-- 
Best regards,
 Andr Engelhardt

/--\
|Eternal Tedium Sound  Media Design   |
|http://www.eternaltedium.com  |
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |
|Mobile: +49 162 751 8530 (sms capable)|
|PGP Key ID: 0x927EF264|
\--/

-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org





Baby steps

2001-04-17 Thread azrael

Hello Dave ,

I would also like to say that I have posted several beginner-level
questions to TBUDL and have *always* received prompt, courteous, and
thorough help and answers. TBUDL seems to encompass a broad range of
users and topics, but in my experience, even the simplest of questions
is welcome.  

Most encouraging. Thank you. Initially I felt my basic questions
might be improper in the midst of such scholarly interchange. It
seems several here run multiple mailing lists and I hesitated to
interrupt with mailer-101 type questions.

  ./michael

  I am told that I talk in shorthand and then smudge it  :  J R R Tolkien



   -- Best regards,  azrael
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-- 
__
Archives   : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org