Re: Education License
Gi'day Alan, It is established that on Friday, 12 September 2003, at 08:48:21[GMT +0100](which was 5:48 PM where I live) you wrote: ,-- [ ] | Anybody know how I'd get my v2 Educational license changed to a Personal | one which I registered it as. I've tried emailing ritlabs at | [EMAIL PROTECTED] but have had no response. `-- I managed to change the educational license I was sent in error to a personal one. It took a couple of mailings to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I did it. Make it easy for 'em too by providing all details (order number, license etc). Also, try setting the importance as high. -- Cheers, Tom Sydney, Australia TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Last night as I lay in bed looking at the stars I thought 'Where the hell is the ceiling?' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Education License
Hello Peter, Friday, September 12, 2003, 10:40:14 AM, you wrote: A Anybody know how I'd get my v2 Educational license changed to a A Personal one which I registered it as. I've tried emailing A ritlabs at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but have had no response. PF I have done that _3_ times as well without any reply! I would suggest to use http://www.cifnet.com/contact.html, last week I filled in the form asking for a license for 2.0 which I received two minutes later! -- Best regards, Cornelismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL not clickable
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, at 06:49:34 [GMT +1000] (which was 06:49 where I live) I wrote: This is painful of course. There was a follow up to this which my anti-spam somehow managed to dump? Can the poster please re-post? Thanks. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 What goes around usually picks up momentum! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
Hi Vishal, You don't stay online very long: This is the primary reason DSL/Cable users are at risk. If you're online for a long time you become a much more attractive target. You couldn't be more wrong, Vishal. I provide support and training for home-based PC users, 95% of whom are on dial-up around here. I can tell you that it doesn't make a jot of difference how they connect - the vulnerable ones who contract viruses and worms are those who don't or won't install or update their AV progs or Windows. End of story. -- regards Clive Taylor Using TB 2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with AVG upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi batters!, Although this is rather OT, I am sure it will interest many TB users. I have been using free AVG V6.0.515 for months. Excellent. But now I tried to update to V518 released last Sept 11, following Grisoft advise. http://www.grisoft.com I downloaded file d60330x3.bin to folder UPDATE and restarted AVG. The program updated itself, but the Control Center is inactive, and the icon does not appear in the system tray any longer. If I try to activate it, an error window opens informing that the program has been modified and it is damaged. It still checks virus, but without the Control Center the virus list cannot be updated. I informed Grisoft and asked for help since this seems to be a bug, although the free version is not entitled to technical support. Waiting for reply. What is now the best course of action? Reinstall the former version? Uninstall-install? Delete files? Wait and see? Any advice? Mine is be more cautious than me for updates. TIA - -- Best regards, Joan Josep Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt - build 08 Comment: KeyID: 0xF6A61F93 iQA/AwUBP2K4Td7hKWb2ph+TEQKUlACfQCV+dZDVjo7uhcF0qV50Ss3vLXIAoIIQ aq15LR0ApTsTqM1irRSl/RsE =olGn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Peter, Yes. That would work - except what I use a real address hosted at a big ISP (@adr.dk). Since the MSID (which is that thing that can be filtered on) includes this (e.g. References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - and other people also has a MSID containing adr.dk, I don't know what to do. I forgot to answer to this part of your message a few days ago, sorry. The way I solve this is: - Create and use a separate account for newsgroups on this server. - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. - Create a folder for each newsgroups you are subscribed to (I assume you already do this) and on the Properties/Identity tab include your From and Reply-To address with the adr.dk domain. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: some threads not sorted as threads
Hallo Vishal, On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:04:55 -0400GMT (12-9-03, 3:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO The ZoneAlarm thread you were mentioning had lots of separate branches RO that kept going on. V Since they all started with the same thread, shouldn't they have had a common V root though? Well they had a common root, but when that common root is purged or manually deleted, the separate branches appear as different threads. V Or does all the Re[2]: business spoil things somehow? No, that doesn't matter. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, - Create a folder for each newsgroups you are subscribed to (I assume you already do this) and on the Properties/Identity tab include your From and Reply-To address with the adr.dk domain. And select this folder before writing any message to this group so its Identity values will be used in the new message. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: some threads not sorted as threads
Hallo Vishal, On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:06:54 -0400GMT (12-9-03, 3:06 +0200, where I live), you wrote: V I use much the same system as you, and having the original root deleted V never messed things up before. Yes it did. But most threads don't separate into that many subthreads, so most of the time you don't notice. It has nothing to do with V2 only with cutting the branches from a tree. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with AVG upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Joan, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, at 09:25:07 [GMT +0200] (which was 13/09/2003 (D/M/Y) 9:25 where I live) you wrote: JJ I informed Grisoft and asked for help since this seems to be a JJ bug, although the free version is not entitled to technical JJ support. Waiting for reply. Correction. I received an automated reply reminding me that there is no support, and sending me to their FAQ page. No much use. Meanwhile, deleting the new .bin file does not help. The program says it is damaged. - -- Best regards, Joan Josep -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt - build 08 Comment: KeyID: 0xF6A61F93 iQA/AwUBP2LBgN7hKWb2ph+TEQIO1QCgjMpEIb3GI4KZjSZTGnxTw/DB9ZQAn0fh tnf5M9g5ZC03endDLls45xoP =G3g7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
Hi Clive Saturday, September 13, 2003, 3:12:55 AM, you wrote: CT Hi Vishal, You don't stay online very long: This is the primary reason DSL/Cable users are at risk. If you're online for a long time you become a much more attractive target. CT You couldn't be more wrong, Vishal. Not at all. My point above was that the elevated risk to broadband users, as compared to dialup, comes from the increased time and static IP address that make them more attractive targets. That was the original debate, and the reason why a firewall makes more sense in this case. CT I provide support and training for home-based PC users, 95% of whom are CT on dial-up around here. Though not as a business, I have done the same, unofficially, for many people. Also overwhelmingly dialup. CT I can tell you that it doesn't make a jot of difference how they CT connect - the vulnerable ones who contract viruses and worms are those CT who don't or won't install or update their AV progs or Windows. You didn't read the rest of my post, I presume :) Your experience completely supports what I said in my subsequent points. The four factors I mentioned were all meant to be taken together, not on their own, as a way of decreasing the odds that you would be compromised. Though of course if I were to rank them, people not updating their systems would rank the highest. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: some threads not sorted as threads
Hi Roelof Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:09:58 AM, you wrote: RO Well they had a common root, but when that common root is purged or RO manually deleted, the separate branches appear as different threads. I'm not clear on how exactly the different branches are formed when they all had a common root. Is it the case that every reply that generates further replies becomes a new thread? If this is so, the thread by reference appears to work like this - B replies to A. C replies to B, so their root is B, not A, even if A has not been deleted yet. Right? V Or does all the Re[2]: business spoil things somehow? RO No, that doesn't matter. Didn't think so. Good to know. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: some threads not sorted as threads
Hi Roelof Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:13:28 AM, you wrote: RO Yes it did. But most threads don't separate into that many subthreads, RO so most of the time you don't notice. Yes that seems likely. But it would only make sense if the threading works as I asked you in my previous mail. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Education License
Cornelis, On 12-09-2003 10:56, you [C] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: C I would suggest to use http://www.cifnet.com/contact.html, last week C I filled in the form asking for a license for 2.0 which I received C two minutes later! The problem is not that I haven't got a license, but that I got an Educational although I bought a Private. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Education License
Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:56:42 AM, you wrote: Friday, September 12, 2003, 10:40:14 AM, you wrote: PF I have done that _3_ times as well without any reply! I would suggest to use http://www.cifnet.com/contact.html, last week I filled in the form asking for a license for 2.0 which I received two minutes later! I've got a license, it's just the wrong type. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
MAU, On 13-09-2003 09:49, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M I forgot to answer to this part of your message a few days ago, M sorry. No problem! :) M - Create and use a separate account for newsgroups on this server. I only have one address at adr.dk (and I use this for newsgroups): nospamatadr.dk M - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address M with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the M one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. Yes, but this would mean that people cannot send me mail as the address is fake. I'd rather not have the real address in the signature. M - Create a folder for each newsgroups you are subscribed to (I assume M you already do this) and on the Properties/Identity tab include your From and Reply-To address with the adr.dk domain. Pling!!! Sound of a penny dropping Now I _just_ realised what you mean (as you can see from what I wrote above) - by setting the fake domain at the general account level and the real domain at all the folders, I can achieve what I'm after? Thanks a bunch, I'll try that. Of cause this method does not distinguish between replies to my message and other messages in the sub-thread I am in, as my MSID is in the References section in the whole sub-thread. It will make the whole sub-thread I'm in, right? However, I have noticed that direct replies to one's messages have the MSID of the replied-to message last under references - now I only need some RegEx to hit on only messages where my MSID is the last in the string of references. ,- [ ] | References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? Thanks for your kind help. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Vishal, [V] wrote: V You're right..it's not. I posted earlier that automatic checks don't V work even with no firewall in place. AM What other software are you running. Are you running anti-virus software AM that does POP3 scanning? V Symantec Antivirus version 8. As of yesterday, BlackICE PC Protection 3.6. You run no other little shell applications? WindowBlinds, clipboard extenders, spam filters etc? It can be really whacky how applications can interfere with each other. They do it in the most unexpected ways at times and furthermore, it doesn't have to be happening from the outset, throwing out the, 'but it has always been working before' argument to defend a particular application being the culprit. I'd therefore start checking by running TB! only with nothing else enabled. If automatic checking works then start eliminating other applications. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Vishal, [V] wrote: AM It need not look *identical* in the majority of instances. V Proportional fonts could accomplish that equally well, I suppose, if V hard line breaks were put in like in MicroEd. Plus they'd look better V at my end. Yes. AM For example, say I wish to split a quoted paragraph into two and reply AM to each part separately. I reflow the paragraph, split it into two, AM separate the parts so that I can insert my own text, reflow the second AM part of the paragraph and then have the cursor in position to start AM typing. With the use of a PowerPro macro, I achieve all of that with a AM single keyboard macro triggered by hitting Alt-D. V Nice. I wish there were some way to do this in TB itself. I'm rather V against the idea of installing another piece of software. A system wide macro tool is to me, a better idea than having each application implement macros. PowerPro is extremely stable and useful. I can't do without it now since I have it doing many things throughout the system, though I use it mostly with TB!. V Yes, I know that. What I meant is that it's never clear what 'next' V and 'previous' mean in different contexts. Depending on how your V messages are sorted, they could mean anything. Delete and move to V next could be disastrous here, which is why I never keep the main V window out of sight. Delete always deletes only that message you're viewing. It's the message that you're next taken to that's dependent on your list sorting. Why is that disastrous? AM No. Though the ticker messages have been filtered to their various AM folders, opening the ticker virtual folder, V What do you mean by opening the ticker virtual folder? If you have unread messages in multiple folders and all those folders have the 'Show unread messages on Mail ticker option enabled, double click the ticker and the ticker virtual folder will appear. By default the message list isn't opened, so you have to enable it, by going to View/Message List. As you can see now, you have a folder view window, listing all messages that are in the Mail Ticker, even though they are distributed across different folders. If you enable the Folder column in the message list, you'll now see which messages belong to which folder. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: some threads not sorted as threads
Hallo Vishal, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:41:27 -0400GMT (13-9-03, 10:41 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO Well they had a common root, but when that common root is purged or RO manually deleted, the separate branches appear as different threads. V I'm not clear on how exactly the different branches are formed when they V all had a common root. Well I'll show with a diagram: A+B+E+J-O | | +K | +F-L | +C+G-M | +H | +D-I-N These messages are one thread, but when you delete A, you get three separate subthreads, because the root, the anchor of the thread is gone. When you delete the messages B, C D, you're getting five subthreads, because the threads B C are split too. That's what's causing you to think that TB's threading is broken, but it's only that the base of the thread is gone. The reason that you don't see this often is that most threads are like this: A-B-C-D-E-F-G Deleting Message A won't cause any splitting of the thread, because there's only one main discussion without sidetracks. I hope it's clear now. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: : String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
Hello, Perry: Friday, September 12, 2003, 5:12:24 PM, you wrote: PN Hi David, PN Friday, September 12, 2003, 4:19:31 PM, you wrote: DRA How do other Batters store important notes? (If there is nothing DRA to annotate.) PN My strategy is to use the color group capability (Message / PN Colour Group), and I also park such messages. I have defined a PN color group called TIPS, which is of course the color group I PN choose. Periodically I move those messages to a separate folder PN called TIPS from TBUDL. Though I haven't done it yet, I PN should probably define a Read Message filter and use that to do PN everything all at once. Thank you, Perry. Yes, your idea is a likely an excellent one, and then again something made me think this should be done at a level above the messages. Have a very good weekend. David -- Best wishes, David Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Pixie, [P] wrote: P Having noticed you as a Guru early on when I got on this list, :) Not really one as such.. I just like automation, hence why TB! and PowerPro so much appeal to me. I've been using them for a long time and have benefited a lot from support from others and my own perseverance, I guess. I really only use a fraction of PowerPro's abilities and even then, it's still very useful. P Anyhow I wanted to thank you for steering me to that utility. I P can't wait to put it to use once I get some other stuff out of the P way. You're very welcome and good luck. You'll have no regrets putting in the hours to make PowerPro work for you. :) -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Peter, Pling!!! Sound of a penny dropping Now I _just_ realised what you mean (as you can see from what I wrote above) - by setting the fake domain at the general account level and the real domain at all the folders, I can achieve what I'm after? I belive so :) Of cause this method does not distinguish between replies to my message and other messages in the sub-thread I am in, as my MSID is in the References section in the whole sub-thread. It will make the whole sub-thread I'm in, right? Right. I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? No, I'm no good at RegEex :-(( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
MAU, On 13-09-2003 15:47, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? M No, I'm no good at RegEex :-(( Can anybody help? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Allie Saturday, September 13, 2003, 7:09:45 AM, you wrote: AM Delete always deletes only that message you're viewing. It's the message AM that you're next taken to that's dependent on your list sorting. Why is AM that disastrous? Yep, my mistake :) I must have lost my train of thought for a second. What I meant to write was that it can get really irritating since you never know what to expect. AM If you have unread messages in multiple folders and all those folders AM have the 'Show unread messages on Mail ticker option enabled, double AM click the ticker and the ticker virtual folder will appear. Ah, I thought you meant that. I've never tried it myself since I find the ticker irritating. But I might give it a look now. Thanks for all your help Allie. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with AVG upgrade
Hello Joan, Saturday, September 13, 2003, 9:04:23 AM, you wrote: JJ Meanwhile, deleting the new .bin file does not help. The program JJ says it is damaged. Uninstall and reinstall it from fresh. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaders of the world's richest nations meet in Cancun on September 10th 2003. Oxfam is presenting them with a petition to make trade fair. Be sure your voice is heard. Sign the 'Big Noise' petition to make trade fair at: http://www.maketradefair.com/go/join/?p=omf1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem with AVG upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jamie, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, at 17:16:16 [GMT +0100] (which was 13/09/2003 (D/M/Y) 18:16 where I live) you wrote: JD Uninstall and reinstall it from fresh. I did. I uninstalled, downloaded the full AVG anew, I deleted the grisoft folder with the remaining files and reinstalled the new full 6.0.518 version (free). But nothing changed. The Control Center is not fully functional, and when I click on Activate a window appears saying that the installation is damaged (modified), and I have to OK it to close. But the program seems to be working, because it detected the eicar test string. When I start the computer and AVG is loaded, the same message (damaged) appears, and I have to click OK, which is a drag. Now I suspect that the program is not *damaged*, but that it is *modified*, and this is the normal behavior of the new version. Any idea about that? If this is really the case, is it a trick from Grisoft to push you into purchasing a paid version? Has their sense of how to conduct business been *damaged* ?. I hope not. Any information about this is welcome. An AV is a too important piece of soft to juggle with damaged programs. - -- Best regards, Joan Josep -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt - build 08 Comment: KeyID: 0xF6A61F93 iQA/AwUBP2NA497hKWb2ph+TEQL+wgCfQRumpQfrMYui8JIvt+CNXm+4YBcAnRIh EtmF32N05ZQqgQBhkXIMTDR1 =5duS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: String search within results (to achieve Boolean AND)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, at 16:19:31 [GMT -0400] (which was 12/09/2003 (D/M/Y) 22:19 where I live) you wrote: DRA How do other Batters store important notes? (If there is nothing to DRA annotate. I send relevant notes for every program to a corresponding folder in the ECCO program using a feature called The Shooter. - -- Best regards, Joan Josep -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt - build 08 Comment: KeyID: 0xF6A61F93 iQA/AwUBP2NDLd7hKWb2ph+TEQIH+gCgwqIf8qNhtKziyPHfDR7HfwXKWjwAoKNl GuX8jJH3y24ok5v1U4svfz+9 =xgtX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
Hello Vishal, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:34:56 -0400 GMT (13/09/2003, 15:34 +0700 GMT), Vishal wrote: Not at all. My point above was that the elevated risk to broadband users, as compared to dialup, comes from the increased time and static IP address that make them more attractive targets. That was the original debate, and the reason why a firewall makes more sense in this case. I agree with this. The IP address is crucial for entering a computer. A dial-up user, who isn't online very long and gets dynamic IP adresses, is therefore less interesting. I now think this was Carsten's point when he mentioned dial-up. I thought he meant the way of connection. CT I can tell you that it doesn't make a jot of difference how they CT connect - the vulnerable ones who contract viruses and worms are those CT who don't or won't install or update their AV progs or Windows. Assuming they click on a mail attachment, this is independent of dial-up or LAN connection. I agree with this too. But it's another story. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Compaq is considering changing the command Press Any Key to Press Return Key because of the flood of calls asking where the Any key is. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat
Hi all, Since I was having so many problems with slow downloading of e-mail messages, I decided to play with adjusting my settings in the Kaspersky Monitor with regards to e-mail scanning. I had the following items checked to scan: Archives with self-extractors Plain mail Embedded objects I removed the check next to plain mail, but I want to make sure I'm still well protected. For those that use Kaspersky, what settings are needed to provide good protection against viruses in e-mail messages? Does plain mail need to be marked? Am I taking a chance by unmarking it? I noticed that everything moves much faster when plain mail is not scanned. However, in checking the Kaspersky monitor, I noticed that when I select an e-mail in my mailbox, Kaspersky still appears to scan it, as the path that appears in the settings changes to a Bat path. I did have the prior settings that way for quite a long time, and didn't used to have a problem with slowness until recently. I'm just trying to figure out how to resolve the problem, but assure that I'm still well protected. Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. :) -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Wilfried, Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:14:36 PM, Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: WM Could it be the amount of mail I have ? My The bat folder is 200 WM MB. Maybe not ever tested with great amount of mail ? I have over 200,000 pieces of mail taking up 1.22 GB of space. The amount of mail you have is not the problem. -- Best regards, Lourdes The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat
On Saturday, September 13, 2003, at 1:13:18 PM, I received a message, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], in which you wrote: (Text not relevant to my reply may have been snipped.) Hi all, Since I was having so many problems with slow downloading of e-mail messages, I decided to play with adjusting my settings in the Kaspersky Monitor with regards to e-mail scanning. I had the following items checked to scan: Archives with self-extractors Plain mail Embedded objects I removed the check next to plain mail, but I want to make sure I'm still well protected. For those that use Kaspersky, what settings are needed to provide good protection against viruses in e-mail messages? Does plain mail need to be marked? Am I taking a chance by unmarking it? I noticed that everything moves much faster when plain mail is not scanned. However, in checking the Kaspersky monitor, I noticed that when I select an e-mail in my mailbox, Kaspersky still appears to scan it, as the path that appears in the settings changes to a Bat path. I did have the prior settings that way for quite a long time, and didn't used to have a problem with slowness until recently. I'm just trying to figure out how to resolve the problem, but assure that I'm still well protected. Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. :) What version of Kaspersky are you using? I have Personal Edition V. 4.0.5. The Monitor doesn't have any email settings that I can see. There is a separate AntiVirus Email Checker component with different settings than those you describe. The user can't configure the email checker directly in my version. You have to do it through the Outlook Tools menu even though you don't use Outlook as your email client. (one of several braindead features of Kaspersky's overall design!) But it seems to know how to find the active client. I get a Kaspersky logo next to the tray (WinXP) while downloading mail. I haven't noticed any download speed problems, but I am using TB 1.62r. -- Stan Robins Mendota Heights, MN Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat, 1.62r www.ritlabs.com * Golf and sex are the only two things you can enjoy without being good at either of 'em! -- Jimmy Demaret * Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Access violation in Account - Properties
Hello Wilfried, Friday, September 12, 2003, 7:07:16 AM, Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: WM Hello, WM Some question just came up. After the fresh install TB it was not WM an unregistered version. does this means that the registry was NOT WM cleaned with the uninstall ?? (so another bug ?) Not a bug. Possibly not what you would like but it's working as designed. Not all of the registry keys are deleted so that you do not loose your registration information. WM If this is true then I should again try again ? I would backup, uninstall, delete the registry keys and then reinstall (do not restore yet), test to see if things are working (no AV entering properties), then restore and test again. regedit /e TheBat!.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! to save settings regedit TheBat!.reg to restore them -- Best regards, Lourdes The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with AVG upgrade
Hello Joan, Saturday, September 13, 2003, 6:07:55 PM, you wrote: JJ I did. I uninstalled, downloaded the full AVG anew, I deleted the grisoft JJ folder with the remaining files and reinstalled the new full JJ 6.0.518 version (free). Did you make sure all dlls were removed as well as registry keys? [snip] JJ Now I suspect that the program is not *damaged*, but that it JJ is *modified*, and this is the normal behavior of the new version. I disagree. No one would have a message reporting it was broken as the normal behaviour. The system is still broken and needs to be fixed. JJ Any idea about that? If this is really the case, is it a trick JJ from Grisoft to push you into purchasing a paid version? Has their JJ sense of how to conduct business been *damaged* ?. I doubt it's a Grisoft trick and I use the same software as you and the update works fine on my computer. We'd better move any replies to this to TBOT though. If you're not subscribed you'll need to goto yahoo.com and subscribe to the group TBOT. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leaders of the world's richest nations meet in Cancun on September 10th 2003. Oxfam is presenting them with a petition to make trade fair. Be sure your voice is heard. Sign the 'Big Noise' petition to make trade fair at: http://www.maketradefair.com/go/join/?p=omf1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Install v.2 along side v.1.6x?
So version 2 has at long last arrived. I'd like to get a look at it, but would also like to keep my trusted 1.6x version. Can I install v.2 along side my current version? -- Paula The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition (reg) Windows 98 4.10 Build Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat
Hi Stan, Saturday, September 13, 2003, 2:41:31 PM, you wrote: What version of Kaspersky are you using? I have Personal Edition V. 4.0.5. The Monitor doesn't have any email settings that I can see. There is a separate AntiVirus Email Checker component with different settings than those you describe. The user can't configure the email checker directly in my version. You have to do it through the Outlook Tools menu even though you don't use Outlook as your email client. (one of several braindead features of Kaspersky's overall design!) But it seems to know how to find the active client. I get a Kaspersky logo next to the tray (WinXP) while downloading mail. I haven't noticed any download speed problems, but I am using TB 1.62r. I'm using Kaspersky version 4.0.6.0, Personal Edition. When I go to the Monitor settings, and click on the Objects button, on the far right I am given choices of what I want to scan. Under Compound Files are the settings I was referring to. I'm sorry I wasn't more clear about that. My fault. Anyway, one of the choices there is plain mail. That's the one I have unmarked, to improve performance. I just don't want to leave myself open to problems if I leave it unmarked. The two things I left checked are Archives with self-extractors and Embedded objects. I also have Kaspersky Monitor set to scan All Files on my hard drive. That setting is located a few items above the other one. The other choice was All infectable, but I've always felt more secure with the All Files setting. That's why I'm wondering if that setting is sufficient in itself, where I wouldn't need to worry about the plain mail setting. Maybe checking plain mail was overkill in the first place. I don't know. The e-mail checker part of Kaspersky I don't use, since it's specifically for Outlook, and I don't use Outlook. I wrote to Kaspersky once asking about this feature, and they are the ones that told me that the mail checker was just for Outlook (I'm assuming for Outlook Express too, but I don't know). Can viruses come in plain e-mail? I know they can in HTML mail and also in attachments, but I'm not sure about plain e-mail. There was a time when the answer would have definitely been no, but now-a-days it's hard to tell. :) -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sending from Multiple FROM addresses
I want ALL of my email messages retrieved only on my ONE dominant account, but in preparing a new outgoing emails I want to be able to select from a menu of FROM addresses. Do I need to add multiple accounts if all I want to do is change the FROM address on new outgoing emails? I'd prefer to NOT have an account for every single FROM address I may want to use. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version question
Any reason NOT to use the newest version? I have install files for: 1.49 (x-mas ed), 1.62 and 2.0. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Parking
What is parking? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Junk plug-in
I want to add the plug-in to mark messages as junk but the plug-in is not plugging in! I run the install.bat file (from bayesit04dm.zip) but get the following error: Cannot import bayesit.reg. Specified file is not a valid registry script. Can only import registry files. I am using Win98se. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
dispatch function
How is the dispatch function used? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2 compatible with older version?
Hello MAU, Is there such a thing with TB!? The reason I wonder is because I have trouble recalling anytime when only bug fixing occurs between versions. Usually new features are being added. So there's never really a time when you can say that a particular version contains features that have all been tested for a long time and fully debugged. You are probably right in regards to TB, that is probably why I am still on 1.62i and didn't even jump to 1.62r. My stability meter (quite subjective, BTW) hasn't advised this jump yet :) Oh just jump! Seriously I haven't kept up with TB since release. To busy with other priorities which will be this way for some months. I was up to date with betas up to release. Couple of suggestions would be a separate web page on www.silverstones.com for macro libraries with new v2 which would also discuss the changes of macros between 1.63 beta 7 and earlier releases to 1.63 beta 8 and later releases including v2. If you use IMAP accounts extensively, you might to want to wait a while. This last statement is conditional based upon the paragraph below. I don't really use IMAP accounts even though I have a few for test purposes. At least not yet anyhow. There were some significant issues with IMAP such as the ticker problem and supposed memory leaks. I may be wrong classifying the ticker problem to IMAP, and would suggest looking for messages in TBBETA from Jonathan Angliss. He is a HEAVY email user such as yourself Miguel. These may have been fixed in the release since it is now on v2.00.6. I don't know because there has been no releases (i.e. .txt files) of version changes to my knowledge since release of v2 on TBBETA. At least I haven't seen any postings from Stefan, and I've been looking for them. When I try to access the old download page for betas I get an error. ,- [ http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/ ] | Forbidden | You don't have permission to access /download/the_bat/beta/ on this server. | | | | | Apache/1.3.28 Server at www.ritlabs.com Port 80 `- or ,- [ http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/ ] | 404 - HTTP not found `- or ,- [ ftp.ritlabs.com ] | User anonymous unknown. `- So I can't even DL the txt files to look at. Make the move when your comfortable. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Only $17.50!
I've been using The Bat! since version 1.1something, through dozens of upgrades, quite a few of which would have qualified as a new version requiring a upgrade fee. I'm almost embarrassed to have to pay only $17.50 now for the upgrade to v.2, knowing how much work has been done over the years by the developers, as they have continually improved TB and freely distributed each rev with users. I spent more than than on lunch yesterday. I have a lot of software now, especially for my Web site, for which I pay an annual subscription fee. We all hate that idea, don't we? In the end, though, I think it's the only business model that will keep small software developers (that is, anyone not Microsoft) in business. RitLabs hasn't gone this route, but I think I'll buy an extra license or two in the hope that they don't follow the path of a lot of other great software that's no longer around. Stephan, Marek et al, thanks for a great piece of _original_ software that makes my life considerably easier, as promised. -- Paula The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition (reg) Windows 98 4.10 Build Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parking
Hallo Rich, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:59:03 -0400GMT (13-9-03, 19:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RG What is parking? That is to mark a message, so that it won't be deleted automatically by your purging options and that TB asks whether you really want to delete it with manual deleting/moving messages. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: dispatch function
Hallo Rich, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:57:14 -0400GMT (13-9-03, 19:57 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RG How is the dispatch function used? That way you can manipulate (download/delete/ignore) messages on the server based on the headers of those messages. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version question
Hallo Rich, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:58:27 -0400GMT (13-9-03, 19:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RG Any reason NOT to use the newest version? I have install files for: 1.49 RG (x-mas ed), 1.62 and 2.0. When you want to start using TB, you'd better use the newest version. V 2.00.6, because you can't register 1.xx anymore and most people answering questions on this list will be using the newest version. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending from Multiple FROM addresses
Hallo Rich, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:56:23 -0400GMT (13-9-03, 19:56 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RG I want ALL of my email messages retrieved only on my ONE dominant account, RG but in preparing a new outgoing emails I want to be able to select from a RG menu of FROM addresses. RG Do I need to add multiple accounts if all I want to do is change the FROM RG address on new outgoing emails? I'd prefer to NOT have an account for RG every single FROM address I may want to use. You can use different from-addresses without installing multiple accounts. When you want to select the from-address from a list, then you can choose only between the from-addresses of the various accounts, but you can manually insert every from-address you prefer. There's also the possibility to set identities for different folders (folder - properties - identity) there you can set the from from address you want to use for that folder. Since you'll probably use different addresses for different functions it's likely that you'll sort messages addressed to your different addresses each to it's own folder and you can set the folder identities appropriate. Another option to change the from-address is the %from macro in the templates. You could use that macro in Address Book templates, for each entry in your address book, or group of addresses, you can use a different template. Templates are powerful tools in TB. With those templates you can create a default structure for your text, but you can also change some headers by means of a wide variety of macros. Stay around on this list for a while and you'll get the picture. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
* Thomas Fernandez writes: The IP address is crucial for entering a computer. A dial-up user, who isn't online very long and gets dynamic IP adresses, is therefore less interesting. You could see it just the other way: dial-up users are people with a poorly configured OS', many of them don't even know what a Service Pack or Security Update is. It is not important for how long one is online. It needs seconds to implant malware (maybe a remote control tool, communicating via IRC and disabling a desktop firewall) through the well known security holes of an unpatched system. And voila: we have a new spam server, warez server, ... And this is NOT a Windows problem. So keep your systems secure by installing security patches! And learn how IP works. I now think this was Carsten's point when he mentioned dial-up. I thought he meant the way of connection. No, it wasn't. For me security is binary. Either a system is secure to a given scenario or it is not. It should not matter if one system is more likely to get »attacked« than the other. -- Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
* Peter Fjelsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 13-09-2003 09:49, you [M] wrote: - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you should follow the rules. The most simple way not to get spam is to fill in an *existing* e-mail address in the To: field which is under your control (you don't have to read those mails, create an extra gmx, hotmail, realbox, etc account for that) to prevent mail bounces. Reply-To: addresses are hardly spammed, so you should create another e-mail account for that which you read once a week or so. IMHO it is not very polite to hide your name or mail address -- but this of course is my personal opinion. If you definitely don't want to publish your e-mail address then use [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should never use fake addresses which are not under your control (like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ...), because *they* will receive the bounces. Yes, but this would mean that people cannot send me mail as the address is fake. Right. However, I have noticed that direct replies to one's messages have the MSID of the replied-to message last under references - now I only need some RegEx to hit on only messages where my MSID is the last in the string of references. ,- [ ] | References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de\s*\n[\S\n])) Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your FQDN (»adr\.dk«). -- Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Install v.2 along side v.1.6x?
Hallo pmf, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 17:04:11 -0400GMT (13-9-03, 23:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: p So version 2 has at long last arrived. I'd like to get a look at it, but p would also like to keep my trusted 1.6x version. Can I install v.2 along p side my current version? No, it goes on top of it. Of course there is the possibility to rename your current version of thebat.exe to thebatold.exe before you install the new version. That is what I did when I was beta-testing version 2. The things you need to take into account are: The registering info has changed, so when you've registered 2.xx and you're running 1.xx your TB will tell that it's unregistered] The file with the folder-info has been changed, it used to be account.flx and now it is account.flb, when you add new folders in 2.xx and afterwards you're running 1.6x then the latter won't know about the new folders. The same goes for adding folders in 1.6x when you've already installed 2.00, when you're running 2.00 it won't know about them. Of course Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L will remedy the problem in both cases (while neglecting any folder-properties of course) Some macros have been slightly changed in their meaning/syntax. Some have been added too. So when you've fine-tuned your templates for 2.00 you might get wrong results in 1.6x -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Carsten, On 14-09-2003 00:03, you [C] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: C * Peter Fjelsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 13-09-2003 09:49, you [M] wrote: - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. C No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you C should follow the rules. I think it's generally accepted to use the TLD of .invalid if necessary? C IMHO it is not very polite to hide your name or mail address -- but C this of course is my personal opinion. I agree. From what I hear - and this is my personal experience, too - if you use Nospam in your mail address (like mine nospamatadr.dk), you get very little spam: most of my spam is from addresses picked up at my web sites. C You should never use fake addresses which are not under your control C (like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ...), because C *they* will receive the bounces. Correct. I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? C ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de\s*\n[\S\n])) C Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your C FQDN (»adr\.dk«). Thanks, Carsten, you're a Godsend. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Only $17.50!
9/13/2003, 5:39 PM: pmf said in Only $17.50! p In the end, though, I think it's the only business model that will p keep small software developers (that is, anyone not Microsoft) in p business. RitLabs hasn't gone this route, but I think I'll buy an p extra license or two in the hope that they don't follow the path of p a lot of other great software that's no longer around. Wow -- that's a /great/ attitude toward the software/developers -- and I absolutely agree. If only I could afford to demonstrate my feelings, as you can! Kudos. -- | Peace, Be well | Allen | | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/harvest/angelina.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | with Anti-Spam Plugin BayesIt! .4em | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scheduler problems
Whenever I assign a sound file (.wav) to be played to alert me to a scheduled event, all I get is the Reminder window/notification. No sound whatsoever. No matter how I configure Notification Parameters (I've tried every conceivable combination). Additionally, I can't get programs (*any* program) to run when I assign the event to the Action, etc. Any ideas about why I'm only getting the Reminder window, and nothing else? I'm running vs 2.00.6 Thanks! -- Best regards, Jack mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending from Multiple FROM addresses
RG I want ALL of my email messages retrieved only on my ONE dominant account, RG but in preparing a new outgoing emails I want to be able to select from a RG menu of FROM addresses. RG Do I need to add multiple accounts if all I want to do is change the FROM RG address on new outgoing emails? I'd prefer to NOT have an account for RG every single FROM address I may want to use. RO You can use different from-addresses without installing multiple accounts. When you want to select the from-address from a RO list, then you can choose only between the from-addresses of the various accounts, but you can manually insert every from-RO address you prefer. How does one MANUALLY insert new FROM addresses on an email by email basis without having created accounts? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending from Multiple FROM addresses
On Sunday, 14 September 2003, Rich Gregory wrote: RG How does one MANUALLY insert new FROM addresses on an email by RG email basis without having created accounts? Click in the From field, and type the address you want to use. If you do it often, make a quick template to change it for you (and change signature, greeting, anything else you want to associate with that From address). -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Page fault error - TB won't start - Discovery!
TB! no longer starts up due to a page fault (PF) error. After the screens asking if I want TB! to be associated with several file types then, instead of the last one asking if I want TB! to be my default email program, comes the PF error The program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. Any plug-ins? IMAP? No but... Ah HA! Fault occurred again. Again, after telling TB! to use BayesIt.tbp from bayesit04dm.zip. 1) I unZIPped the file to it's default directory (c:\bayesit) 2) Run the included install.bat file (which fails to write to my registry) 3) Under Anti-Spam properties tell TB! to use c:\BayesIt.tbp At the end of the install TB! starts and can be used (even the mark as junk option) but, once closed, cannot be started again. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending from Multiple FROM addresses
Hallo Rich, On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:54:06 -0400GMT (14-9-03, 0:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RG How does one MANUALLY insert new FROM addresses on an email by email basis RG without having created accounts? Set the cursor on the from-field in the message editor (when that doesn't show, you can make it visible with 'View - From' in the menu of the editor) and edit the field. As easy as that. BTW Your message includes neither an In-Reply-To nor a References header and therefore disrupts threading based on these headers. Is that a setting in Eudora that you can disable? Previous versions did include an In-Reply-To header. In case it's a setting, please enable it. Most list members view threads on references, because viewing threads on subject is rather limited in it's usefulness in more complex threads. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:18:40 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy Greetings Carsten, On Saturday, September 13, 2003, 6:03:25 PM, you wrote: Carsten IMHO it is not very polite to hide your name or mail address -- but Carsten this of course is my personal opinion. Carsten If you definitely don't want to publish your e-mail address then Carsten use [EMAIL PROTECTED] When using any address that won't resolve netetiquette dictates that you utilize an address that can't resolve (and will not attempt to resolve) such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] . This takes a great load off root servers as, by standard, .invalid is recognized as a non-routable and invalid naming convention. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could resolve and will query root DNS servers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Invalid naming convention. No resolve query. Notice anything above? Try it yourself. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse behind. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2Oo+7wi09Hs/j+VEQLV/gCfScS0U5lTERkzLeLg3Jo9uDSAyoEAoLpT k1EcXchC2pn7kZSa8G+BMLgM =83G3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:40:01 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat Greetings Kim, On Saturday, September 13, 2003, 5:07:03 PM, you wrote: Kim The e-mail checker part of Kaspersky I don't use, since it's Kim specifically for Outlook, and I don't use Outlook. I wrote to Kim Kaspersky once asking about this feature, and they are the ones that Kim told me that the mail checker was just for Outlook (I'm assuming for Kim Outlook Express too, but I don't know). Not here, although I run Kapersky Pro 4.5.0.48. The minute I installed it and went to The_Bat's Preferences and then Protection - Anti Virus the Kapersky plugin was recognized in the drop down box as Kapersky 3.5.9.0. Seems to work here as it has quarantined a few Sobig.F attachments. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Stupidity is not a handicap. Park elsewhere! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2Osg7wi09Hs/j+VEQIk6QCdHSf3By1d72GMw5LSA5XSoO7Ek7wAnj+U l1MnM7fueJWnSIPSPh+FF/TK =WF1L -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 13, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote... I agree with this. The IP address is crucial for entering a computer. A dial-up user, who isn't online very long and gets dynamic IP adresses, is therefore less interesting. I now think this was Carsten's point when he mentioned dial-up. I thought he meant the way of connection. My old dial up service when I lived in the UK was very reliable. I often had it left on for over a week, and the only reason I had to disconnect was because Win98 didn't like being left of for that long ;) CT I can tell you that it doesn't make a jot of difference how they CT connect - the vulnerable ones who contract viruses and worms are CT those who don't or won't install or update their AV progs or CT Windows. Assuming they click on a mail attachment, this is independent of dial-up or LAN connection. I agree with this too. But it's another story. Surely you're missing the fact that those that often that get viruses get them because they just selected a message, and not opening any part of it. Thanks to the convenience of microsoft products ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Command, n.: Statement presented by a human and accepted by a computer in such a manner as to make the human feel as if he is in control -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBP2OvtCuD6BT4/R9zEQINyQCgoe3UEkQqFDNlwwP5Rr4m/vUMR3UAoPQe rLJ1EB/HMsb5z8w9GQ4gh3/M =Xs1p -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:54:38 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls Greetings Carsten, On Saturday, September 13, 2003, 3:45:58 PM, you wrote: I now think this was Carsten's point when he mentioned dial-up. I thought he meant the way of connection. Carsten No, it wasn't. For me security is binary. Either a system is secure Carsten to a given scenario or it is not. It should not matter if one system Carsten is more likely to get »attacked« than the other. As with a house, if you leave the back door open it's only a matter of time before someone gains entry. It takes no more than an IP block scan to see who is on-line on any ISP's network and from there a simple port scan and if one is found to determine if it's open and exploitable. It makes no difference whether you are on dialup, cable or DSL. The only thing that matters is how long you are on-line, you have a port open that can be accessed through and that you are on-line long enough for the other end to do their deed. Anyway ... Takes a matter of seconds to install a dropper on any system. Come back on-line with the same IP or stay on-line long enough and the hacker is on your dime, time and system. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Drugs have taught an entire generation of American kids the metric system. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA+AwUBP2Ow87wi09Hs/j+VEQJfXwCY3Dr2tSOSxiTkxxskxJBiM6CqogCgsj9J T1Bwvn3yyoT1Wn6cSUuidDM= =xmNg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat
Hi DG, Saturday, September 13, 2003, 7:47:17 PM, you wrote: Not here, although I run Kapersky Pro 4.5.0.48. The minute I installed it and went to The_Bat's Preferences and then Protection - Anti Virus the Kapersky plugin was recognized in the drop down box as Kapersky 3.5.9.0. Seems to work here as it has quarantined a few Sobig.F attachments. I'd love to use that plug-in. True, it works with the Pro version, but not the Personal version. One person on this list told me that she installed the Pro version and used her Personal edition key which allowed her to use the plug-in with the Bat. The other Pro features were disabled. I was going to try that, but the last time I uninstalled Kaspersky and installed a newer version, it wreaked havoc on my computer. Followed all the standard precautions, and even used the special removal tool that Kaspersky tech support sent me, and things still didn't work right. I ended up running Windows XP restore, which got stuck in the middle, and never restored the portion that does restore (so I couldn't re-run it). After several frustrating hours of repairs, I ended up giving up and formatting my drive and started over. Therefore, I'm not too eager to uninstall Kaspersky and reinstall a different version yet (although I know eventually I need to, and this problem was probably just a fluke, as I've uninstalled it before without problems). Probably should have just bought Pro in the first place. :) Any ideas on the whether viruses are in plain mail (non-html mail with no attachments)? I'm assuming that's how Kaspersky defines plain mail. I really should write them and ask. :) -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:12:44 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: E-mail Settings for Kaspersky Monitor and the Bat Greetings Kim, On Saturday, September 13, 2003, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote: Kim After several frustrating Kim hours of repairs, I ended up giving up and formatting my drive and Kim started over. Therefore, I'm not too eager to uninstall Kaspersky and Kim reinstall a different version yet (although I know eventually I need Kim to, and this problem was probably just a fluke, as I've uninstalled it Kim before without problems). I understand. Kim Any ideas on the whether viruses are in plain mail (non-html mail Kim with no attachments)? I'm assuming that's how Kaspersky defines plain Kim mail. I really should write them and ask. :) I'm guessing that plain mail would be in the realm of an EICAR text string but AFAIK, and I've been in the IT/IS admin field for quite some time, attachments are the only way a virus can deliver it's payload and propagate is through a file attachment that is executed. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. You can't scare me. I drive a school bus! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2O0Bbwi09Hs/j+VEQIeoACgxCnL8vcPk3P0CNF2jYI/SeCDj+IAn1H1 SCcj2ZL8wsz8LRmFKQj8F5jk =/YIL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Parking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:21:27 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: Parking Greetings Rich, On Saturday, September 13, 2003, 1:59:03 PM, you wrote: Rich What is parking? I am assuming that you mean message parking? A parked message can not be deleted until unparked. I use parking for 2 reasons. One is because the information or correspondence is important to me or two, I have created a new folder that can be accidentally deleted by me if the focus is in the folder pane versus the message pane and the folder is empty. If I park one message in that folder I get warnings if my fingers do the walking across the keyboard too fast. -:) Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. I was only looking at your name tag, honest. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2O3nLwi09Hs/j+VEQLARQCfQYU+CLyHXrnyOHsJ32qX6JoXJvwAnRmL 7nQf+GmNfC9hQ9JIDBnu6nxG =RfAk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Junk plug-in
Hi Rich, @13-Sep-2003, 14:00 -0400 (19:00 UK time) Rich Gregory said: I want to add the plug-in to mark messages as junk but the plug-in is not plugging in! I run the install.bat file (from bayesit04dm.zip) but get the following error: Cannot import bayesit.reg. Specified file is not a valid registry script. Can only import registry files. I am using Win98se. This product (the bayesit plug-in) is not supported on this list AFAIK. Direct support questions either to TBBETA or to the author of the plug-in. My guess is that the reg file is in XP registry data format and the version number in the first line of the contents of the file should be changed from 5.0 to 4.0 to make it work on Win9x. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
Hi Allie Saturday, September 13, 2003, 7:02:23 AM, you wrote: AM You run no other little shell applications? WindowBlinds, clipboard AM extenders, spam filters etc? Nope. AM I'd therefore start checking by running TB! only with nothing else AM enabled. I did. It doesn't work unless I use the scheduler like I mentioned elsewhere. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: some threads not sorted as threads
Hi Roelof Saturday, September 13, 2003, 7:25:20 AM, you wrote: RO Well I'll show with a diagram: Thanks for all the trouble, Roelof :) It's clear now. I was under the impression that everything treated the original message, not the one it replied to, as its root. Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls
Carsten, Sunday, September 14, 2003, 12:45:58 AM, you wrote: CT * Thomas Fernandez writes: CT You could see it just the other way: dial-up users are people with a CT poorly configured OS', many of them don't even know what a Service CT Pack or Security Update is. Some of us are stuck with dial-up because there are no other options where we live. Nonetheless, we do keep up to date with service patches, virus definition files, etc., even though the downloads are slow. CT It is not important for how long one is online. It needs seconds to CT implant malware (maybe a remote control tool, communicating via IRC CT and disabling a desktop firewall) through the well known security CT holes of an unpatched system. I agree. Zone Alarm has sometimes warned of scans within seconds of logging on. They were obviously scanning blocks of addresses, but without ZA or some other firewall I would have been vulnerable. I get anywhere from 2 - 10 alerts when I'm connected, which is usually 15 - 45 minutes per connection. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
