Re: Setting a subject
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 12:59:12 AM, you wrote: or try (haven't checked it): %HDRSUBJECT=Bird-pix When I enter this macro, the subject stays empty. I've tried it in the AB group and in the Quick template. -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 I'm not going deaf. I'm ignoring you. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Send-Reply: how to organize thread ?
Hello Batmans! It's common and well known situation, when we have multiplies messages from one author in Inbox folder and Your answers in Sent folder BUT how to organize thread-like view of that discussion ? ANY advices would be appreciable! Your sincerely registered, Sasha. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Full height Account tree is not full height
Hello Chris, When I play with my computer's resolution (epically when I access it using Remote Desktop connection) and set it to a lower resolution (1024 x 768) and then back to a higher resolution (1152 x 864), the Account tree is no longer full height. There is some blank space underneath it. Has anyone else encountered this? How do I fix it? I tired resetting the resolution to 1152 x 864 and restarting, but the problem was not solved. It this a bug that needs to be reported? I seem to recall reading about this behaviour some months ago. I assume you have TB maximised, right? Have you tried restoring down and maximising again from the upper right corner buttons? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Send-Reply: how to organize thread ?
Hallo Alexander, On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:30:54 +0600GMT (8-10-03, 8:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AAG It's common and well known situation, when we have multiplies messages AAG from one author in Inbox folder and Your answers in Sent folder AAG BUT how to organize thread-like view of that discussion ? Create filters that move both received and sent messages to the same folder for that contact. I've sorted my contacts into groups and I've created filters for those groups, so that whenever I'm exchanging messages with contacts from one of those groups, the message is being filtered into the corresponding folder. Of course that means that most of my incoming messages don't stay in my Inbox and that gives me an easy way to decide upon their priority. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Full height Account tree is not full height
Hallo Chris, On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:32:37 -0400GMT (8-10-03, 3:32 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C When I play with my computer's resolution (epically when I access it C using Remote Desktop connection) and set it to a lower resolution C (1024 x 768) and then back to a higher resolution (1152 x 864), the C Account tree is no longer full height. TB doesn't like the screen resolution to be reset while it's running. Close TB and start it again or change the way the screen is split to something else and then back again. (view - split mode - whatever) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memo Behavior
Open and close the little memo window using ctrl+shift+i, all seems normal. Open the memo window, make changes to the text, then ctrl+shift+i without first saving. The memo disappears. The next time I open the memo window it will prompt me to save the memo that I closed previously. I don't entirely understand the logic behind hide now, save later. The way I'd expect it to behave would be prompt to save on close (as it does with esc.) -- or, optimally, an option to tell it to autosave on close. -- | Peace, Be well | Allen | http://jarday.com | http://theprawn.com | Public Key: http://jarday.com/key | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.22, BayesIt! 0.4gm | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting a subject
On Wed 8 October 2003, 15:45:15 +1000, Edgar wrote: This does not solve it. It will always jumps back to the subject I set in the macro. It does not matter which I edit first the body or the header. Hmm, if I set the subject with a macro I can, as Roelof suggested, add to that subject by going to the body of the message, MAKING SOME CHANGE TO THE BODY, and then going back to the subject. If I try to add to the subject before getting to the body, or after tabbing to the body but not typing anything it, it reverts to the previous value as you suggested. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Weird authentication problem
Hi all, I seem to be having a weird problem. Every now and then, I get an error when trying to send e-mail to my SMTP server. The mail is rejected and a window pops up saying, Server reports error. The response is: Incorrect authentication data. I can receive POP mail just fine on the account. This is what the log says: 10/8/2003, 15:12:12: SEND - Certificate S/N: 0, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 01 Oct 2003 to 15 Feb 2031, for 1 host(s): mail.server.net. 10/8/2003, 15:12:12: SEND - Owner: US, Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, mail.server.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/8/2003, 15:12:12: SEND - This certificate is self-issued. 10/8/2003, 15:12:13: SEND - TLS handshake complete 10/8/2003, 15:12:13: SEND - connected to SMTP server 10/8/2003, 15:12:13: SEND - authenticating (plain)... 10/8/2003, 15:12:13: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: Incorrect authentication data 10/8/2003, 15:12:13: SEND - authenticating (login)... 10/8/2003, 15:12:13: SEND - WARNING: authentication failed 10/8/2003, 15:12:13: SEND - sending message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/8/2003, 15:12:13: SEND - The last address submitted was [EMAIL PROTECTED] !10/8/2003, 15:12:13: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Authentication turned on in your email client. From another account to the exact same server, with all settings the same (except domain name), I am able to send mail. 10/8/2003, 15:22:17: SEND - Initiating TLS handshake 10/8/2003, 15:22:17: SEND - Certificate S/N: 0, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 01 Oct 2003 to 15 Feb 2031, for 1 host(s): mail.server.net. 10/8/2003, 15:22:17: SEND - Owner: US, Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, Unknown, mail.server.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/8/2003, 15:22:17: SEND - This certificate is self-issued. 10/8/2003, 15:22:17: SEND - TLS handshake complete 10/8/2003, 15:22:17: SEND - connected to SMTP server 10/8/2003, 15:22:17: SEND - authenticating (plain)... 10/8/2003, 15:22:17: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: Incorrect authentication data 10/8/2003, 15:22:17: SEND - authenticating (login)... 10/8/2003, 15:22:18: SEND - sending message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/8/2003, 15:22:18: SEND - message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent (450 bytes) 10/8/2003, 15:22:18: SEND - connection finished - 1 messages sent The difference seems to be that the authenticating (login)... seems to fail. The last time I had this problem, all domains on the server failed with this error. I submitted a trouble ticket and they installed a new certificate on the server and I was able to send e-mail again. Today, it is just one domain failing, so I am guessing that this rules out it being a certificate problem. (I suspect that when they restart the mail service because of changing the certificate, it fixes the problem.) Every time I open a trouble ticket for this problem, I get 20 questions from the admin because no one else seems to be having this problem but me. They've suggested that it is a TB problem, but I don't think it is. I've googled and the only thing I can find are messages about people who haven't had the SMTP Authentication checked in their e-mail client getting that error. Mine is definitely checked. In fact, I've unchecked it, rechecked it, used the same as email settings, put in the username and password, etc., in order to see if it was some settings problem. I've tried this with SMTP, StartTLS and TLS. Same results. I don't see how it is a problem with TB. Am I missing something? I suspect that the only thing that will convince these guys that it is not TB is if I can tell them what the problem really is. Googling hasn't helped in this regard. Anybody have any clues? Could it be a locked file someplace? I do have shell access to the server and am able to get around and do some things. Is there anything I should be checking? Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB!, MyGate, Teranews
Is anyone using MyGate with Teranews and able to post? I get an error: Server reports it is not ready, reply: '' Ideas? Suggestions? Thanks, -- ò¸ó Nick Danger [MUA: 2.00.18] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Send-Reply: how to organize thread ?
Hi Roelof Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 4:41:35 AM, you wrote: RO Create filters that move both received and sent messages to the same RO folder for that contact. This doesn't work if you'd like the threading capability for every person you correspond with. Creating that many folders is out of the question for most people. What I'd like is to see TB do this the way Pocomail does - changing from threaded to unthreaded view on the fly in the way Alexander described. TB can do this only with mailing lists. Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Send-Reply: how to organize thread ?
Hallo Vishal, On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 11:41:10 -0400GMT (8-10-03, 17:41 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO Create filters that move both received and sent messages to the same RO folder for that contact. V This doesn't work if you'd like the threading capability for every V person you correspond with. Creating that many folders is out of V the question for most people. As I wrote, I sorted my contacts into groups (relatives, club1, club2, collegues, etc) and I'm filtering on those groups, not on individuals. Has two advantages: I'm keeping my threads together and I'm sorting my mail on subject. V What I'd like is to see TB do this the way Pocomail does - changing V from threaded to unthreaded view on the fly in the way Alexander V described. TB can do this only with mailing lists. TB can do this with any folder. Not just mailing lists. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
%-
Why do some template macros lines end in %- and others do not? (I cannot wait for my TB CD to get here so I have some kind of a documentation manual!) -- Rich Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %-
Hi rich, on Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:26:18 -0400GMT (08.10.03, 18:26 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : rg Why do some template macros lines end in %- and others do not? Having %- at the end of a line prevents an extra line feed, taking the next line as if it were written in the same line. Example: %SINGLERE%QUOTESTYLE=I%LANGUAGE=AM%CURSOR is interpreted the same as %SINGLERE%- %QUOTESTYLE==%- %LANGUAGE=AM%- %CURSOR Without the %- the cursor would be put in the fourth line instead of the first. It is used to make the text better readable for humans... :-) -- Cheers Peter Life is a yo-yo, and mankind ties knots in the string. Winamp currently playing: Gilberto Gil - Lick Samba Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %-
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello rich, On 08 October 2003, 12:26 -0400 (08/10/200317:26 local time) rich gregory [RG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rg Why do some template macros lines end in %- and others do not? This suppresses a carriage return/line feed. - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.22 w/ BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP4RAHlv+PP8p0/caEQKH4ACguL6S1EGqzo5TXxeOedi8ttwJlAkAoPTc 4MpVhnE1y5VAzc8mzJC3M904 =1/b7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: %-
Hello Peter, rg Why do some template macros lines end in %- and others do not? PM Having %- at the end of a line prevents an extra line feed ... snip, snip PM It is used to make the text better readable for humans... Damn stupid Humans... Never understanding the machines. -- Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting a subject
Hello Robin, On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 1:13:49 PM, you wrote: Hmm, if I set the subject with a macro I can, as Roelof suggested, add to that subject by going to the body of the message, MAKING SOME CHANGE TO THE BODY, and then going back to the subject. If I try to add to the subject before getting to the body, or after tabbing to the body but not typing anything it, it reverts to the previous value as you suggested. Now I've tried this with making some changes in the body and then go to the subject and change it. That will stay the same. But is this normal or should it work differently like changing subject go to body and then make a change there? Is this due to the way the macro's work? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address book groups
It seems address book groups MUST list the member's email address with each one separated from the next with a comma in the format: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this true?? I have an address group with thousands of names in the format: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] So that by paging down through the list I can quickly find the address I need. But TB sees this format and only uses the FIRST name in the list for to send the email mssg to. Anybody have any thoughts on how I can best format NOTE: I found out that using CTRL-ENTER will address a mssg to the group name but if I want to address the message with individual addresses in the BCC: field I can double-click the 'person' icon and the addresses are then all used instead of the group alias. -- Rich Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting a subject
Hi Edgar, @8-Oct-2003, 19:38 +0200 (08-Oct 18:38 UK time) Edgar [E] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Robin: E But is this normal or should it work differently like changing E subject go to body and then make a change there? E Is this due to the way the macro's work? In a word - yes. The template is invoked when moving from header to message body (to enact any required AB template following a change of recipient). If the body is flagged as modified then the template is not re-evaluated after moving from header to body. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.22 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell check usability
Hey gang, In the spell checker 2 things... 1) It would be excellent if I could double click on the correct entry in the list of suggestion to replace the word in question instead of having to 1) first select the word in that list then 2) moving over to the change button to 3) click on it! 2) It would also be excellent if I could leave the default setting to check all outgoing emails ON but selectively shut it off per message. I have wanted to send emails out that I did not want to spell check but turning off the default then forgetting to turn it back on is a bummer. This suggestion could best be executed in this way: When the Spell Checking dialog box comes up with a Not In Dictionary word another button should be in that dialog box such as Just queue/send now. -- Rich Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book groups
Hi Rich, @8-Oct-2003, 14:00 -0400 (08-Oct 19:00 UK time) rich gregory [RG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip RG I have an address group with thousands of names in the format: ... snip RG ... But TB sees this format and only uses the FIRST name in the RG list for to send the email mssg to. Erm - that's not an address book group. It's a single address book entry with multiple *alternate* addresses. Not the same thing and TB doesn't have many mechanisms to support this form of group management. RG Anybody have any thoughts on how I can best format Each address should be a separate entry in the address book within a group. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.22 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hot keys
Hey gang, Can I set hotkeys to open my most used mail folders? (Not so much open I suppose as jump the cursor/focus to that folder.) -- Rich Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell check usability
It seems that rich gregory said ... r 1) It would be excellent if I could double click on the r correct entry in the list of suggestion to replace the word in r question instead of having to 1) first select the word in that r list then 2) moving over to the change button to 3) click on r it! Without selecting the word, RIGHT-click it. Choose correct word from list. Right click the correct word. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 10/8/2003 at 2:31 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Translated from Dutch: I'm self-confident. At least, I think I am. (W.van Broeckhoven). Location: 40.1054688°N 83.0212173°W (approximately) Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting a subject
Hello Marck, On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 8:12:48 PM, you wrote: In a word - yes. The template is invoked when moving from header to message body (to enact any required AB template following a change of recipient). If the body is flagged as modified then the template is not re-evaluated after moving from header to body. Thanks, that makes it clear. I have just one other question about setting subject headers though :-) If I set the header with %SUBJECT=Test and use this in a reply template. How can I change the set subject from within a quick template. I've tried it with %subject= %subject=no test but it stays test. -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Money can't buy happiness but it can certainly rent it for a couple of hours. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Send-Reply: how to organize thread ?
Hi Roelof Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 12:26:31 PM, you wrote: RO Create filters that move both received and sent messages to the same RO folder for that contact. V This doesn't work if you'd like the threading capability for every V person you correspond with. Creating that many folders is out of V the question for most people. RO As I wrote, I sorted my contacts into groups (relatives, club1, club2, RO collegues, etc) and I'm filtering on those groups, not on individuals. I know. Saw that bit. RO Has two advantages: I'm keeping my threads together and I'm sorting my mail RO on subject. You didn't specify earlier that you managed to get threaded messages this way though. It looked like you were suggesting an alternative to threading using your groups system. Next you suggested creating individual folders, so I thought threading wasn't possible unless you had only one contact's messages in a folder. RO TB can do this with any folder. Not just mailing lists. Aha! I just tried this..never knew. This opens up whole new possibilities for me. One more point for TB. Thanks Roelof! Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell check usability
At 2:33 PM on 10/8/2003, Bill Blinn Technology Editor typed ... B Without selecting the word, RIGHT-click it. Choose correct word B from list. Right click the correct word. You probably figured it out already, but I means LEFT click the replacement word. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 10/8/2003 at 3:52 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her. -- W.C. Fields Location: 40.1054688°N 83.0212173°W (approximately) Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto responde to mail with an attachment with a large size
Hello Mike, On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 6:51:33 AM, you wrote: Allie Martin wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try this in your auto-reply template: %To=%- %To='%SETPATTREGEXP=^From:\s(.*?\s+[EMAIL PROTECTED])$%- %REGEXPMATCH=%OText' It is possible that the original From field to be extracted does not contain real name or angled brackets. I would try the regex ^From:\s([EMAIL PROTECTED])$ Thanks for the help, the regex works fine (I use the second one). This one I also used as a example for determine the subject. -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 The very ink with which all history is written is merely fluid prejudice. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Chancing signature with qtemplate and %ISSIGNATURE
Hello All, When you use a signature in a template (e.g.) cut sign Best regards, Name and then insert from the menu a quick template with an other signature (e.g.) cut sign Cu, Name %ISSIGNATURE You'll get the following: cut sign cut sign Cu, Name This is how it described in the help file. But when I insert the same quick template with the %Qinclude=QT macro I get the following: cut sign Best regards, Name cut sign Cu, Name He does not replace the signature. Is this not possible with the Qinclude macro? How should I do that? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Lord Illingworth: All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. Mrs. Allonby: No man does. That is his. - Oscar Wilde Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting a subject
Hi Edgar, @8-Oct-2003, 20:48 +0200 (08-Oct 19:48 UK time) Edgar [E] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: E How can I change the set subject from within a quick template. E I've tried it with %subject= %subject=no test but it stays E test. Interesting. Works fine for me. It may be the same issue - without body changes, the execution of the macro terminates with a re-evaluation of the base template. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.22 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Chancing signature with qtemplate and %ISSIGNATURE
Hallo Edgar, On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:05:15 +0200GMT (8-10-03, 23:05 +0200, where I live), you wrote: E and then insert from the menu a quick template with an other E signature (e.g.) E cut sign E Cu, E Name E %ISSIGNATURE In order to get the %IsSignature macro to function correct, you'll need to place it on top of your QT. You don't need to insert a signature delimiter in it. Try this: %IsSignature Batty greetings, %FromName -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB!, MyGate, Teranews
Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 7:46:32 AM, Nick wrote: ND Is anyone using MyGate with Teranews and able to post? ND I get an error: Server reports it is not ready, reply: '' You will generally get this message when something is amiss with the sending server, like the wrong one, wrong port etc. Sorry not on Teranews though so I can't help there. -- Neal Using The Bat! v2.00.22 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB!, MyGate, Teranews
Reply to message sent 10/8/2003, @ 13:41:45 (4:41 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Neal, ND I get an error: Server reports it is not ready, reply: '' You will generally get this message when something is amiss with the sending server, like the wrong one, wrong port etc. On their home page they note in the program setup section: -- You may also have to select an option that says My server requires a . -- Could that have something to do with it, and if so any ideas of a work around using MyGate? Thanks, -- ò¸ó Nick Danger [MUA: 2.00.18] [OS: Windows XP 5 1] Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Auto Address New Messages
Hello tbudl, I am wanting to have the messages already addressed when I click on new message while I am in a certain folder. For instance, In my TBUDL folder, if I click new message can the To: area be auto-filled with [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks -- John Morse The_Bat! (Beta) 2.00.22 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (2195) AVG Anti-Virus Plugin Bayesit 0.4fm (Beta) Spam Plugin [WinRAR] My Favorite Compression Program! http://www.rarlabs.com Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Hello John, Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 4:53:32 PM, you wrote: I am wanting to have the messages already addressed when I click on new message while I am in a certain folder. For instance, In my TBUDL folder, if I click new message can the To: area be auto-filled with [EMAIL PROTECTED] This can be done with a folder template -- but before you decide to do this, look in the archives for Marck's folder template lecture. It seems to me I remember seeing it just a few days ago. -- Dave Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Hi John, Thursday, October 9, 2003, 7:53:32 AM, you wrote: JM I am wanting to have the messages already addressed when I click on JM new message while I am in a certain folder. JM For instance, In my TBUDL folder, if I click new message can the JM To: area be auto-filled with [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use the following in the folder template %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards Robyn This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB!, MyGate, Teranews
Hello Nick, On their home page they note in the program setup section: -- You may also have to select an option that says My server requires a . -- Could that have something to do with it, and if so any ideas of a work around using MyGate? Did you create an account in Teranews? If so, have you included your username and password in the NNTP server section of your Teranews gate in MyGate? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell check usability
Hello rich, 1) It would be excellent if I could double click on the correct entry in the list of suggestion to replace the word in question instead of having to 1) first select the word in that list then 2) moving over to the change button to 3) click on it! In on the editor window you select Spell Checker/Automatic checking the text is checked as you type and wrong words are underlined in red. Right click on the wrong word and select the correct one from the meny that pops up. 2) It would also be excellent if I could leave the default setting to check all outgoing emails ON but selectively shut it off per message. I have wanted to send emails out that I did not want to spell check but turning off the default then forgetting to turn it back on is a bummer. If you use Automatic checking there is nothing that will stop you from sending a message without making any corrections :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hot keys
Hello rich, Can I set hotkeys to open my most used mail folders? (Not so much open I suppose as jump the cursor/focus to that folder.) With focus on the folder tree, start typing the name of the folder you want to jump to. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Auto Address New Messages
Hello Robyn, Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 5:06:08 PM, you wrote: RW I use the following in the folder template RW %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! but what part of the template am I supposed to place it in? I put it right after the Hello %TOFName, But my cursor stays in the To: field. Shouldn't my cursor be placed in the body of the message where %Cursor is? -- John Morse Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Hi John, @8-Oct-2003, 16:53 -0500 (08-Oct 22:53 UK time) John Morse said: I am wanting to have the messages already addressed when I click on new message while I am in a certain folder. For instance, In my TBUDL folder, if I click new message can the To: area be auto-filled with [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks I recommend that you use the Specials .. Mailing list .. Post message option instead of new message and put your list posting template into the address book entry for the list or in the address book group for lists. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.22 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Hi Robyn, @09-Oct-2003, 08:06 +1000 (08-Oct 23:06 UK time) Robyn Winter [RW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to John: JM I am wanting to have the messages already addressed when I JM click on new message while I am in a certain folder. For JM instance, In my TBUDL folder, if I click new message can JM the To: area be auto-filled with [EMAIL PROTECTED] RW I use the following in the folder template RW %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nooo Don't do it!!! Bad advice! Robin - change that template. It will end in tears and is a *bad* idea. If you really *must* (and you shouldn't unless there's absolutely no alternative - and there usually *is* a perfectly good alternative) use a folder template to set a to address, use this: %IF:'%TOADDR'='':%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]' This will only set the To address when there is no previous value. This may protect you from accidentally copying private, off-list messages back the to list. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.22 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell check usability
Hello MAU, In on the editor window you select Spell Checker/Automatic checking the text is checked as you type and wrong words are underlined in red. Right click on the wrong word and select the correct one from the meny that pops up. I meant to type: _If_ on the . from the _menu_ that pops up. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Winamp PLAYING: Down To the Bone - Electra Glide (SmoothJazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memo Behavior
Allen wrote: I don't entirely understand the logic behind hide now, save later. I feel the same way. Not sure what reasoning prompted that behavior in the pop-up Memo, but I just try to remember to Ctrl+S before closing the memo. Auto Save would be very nice, indeed. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
John Morse wrote: But my cursor stays in the To: field. Shouldn't my cursor be placed in the body of the message where %Cursor is? Since Marck's folder template lectures, I have switched to Address Book templates. But back when I was doing it wrong I did notice what you describe. Folder templates that set the To: field for new messages would keep the focus on To: regardless of %Cursor setting. I suspect this is for protection from what Marck points out in his lecture - you are forced to at least look at the To: field before continuing, giving you a chance to avoid sending private mail publicly. Truth be told, Marck's arguments are pretty good for not using folder templates. I'm impressed that he actually posted folder template advice in this thread! It's not often a moderator who so strongly believes in something will post advice on how to implement functionality antithetical to his argument. A sign of a healthy ego, IMO. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird authentication problem
Terry wrote: I seem to be having a weird problem. Every now and then, I get an error when trying to send e-mail to my SMTP server. Unfortunately, this is an every now and then problem, which makes it difficult to track down. You said that you are using SMTP authentication, so I'm not sure this will help, but have you checked the option to 'use POP before SMTP'? I've had sending issues in the past and this setting fixed it. -- Ken Green Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Auto Address New Messages
Hello Marck, Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 5:33:53 PM, you wrote: MDP This will only set the To address when there is no previous value. MDP This may protect you from accidentally copying private, off-list MDP messages back the to list. If you are creating a NEW message why would there be any information in the message? I am not wanting it for the REPLY template, but only the NEW message template. Am I making any sense? -- John Morse Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Auto Address New Messages
Hi Marck, Thursday, October 9, 2003, 8:33:53 AM, you wrote: MDP This will only set the To address when there is no previous value. MDP This may protect you from accidentally copying private, off-list MDP messages back the to list. Thanks for that Marck. I rarely post to the list so the danger of me accidentally sending private email to the list is limited. But it is better to be safe than sorry. Anyone stupid enough to listen to what I said...please disregard!!! -- Regards Robyn Winter This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Hi John, @8-Oct-2003, 18:35 -0500 (09-Oct 00:35 UK time) John Morse said to Marck: MDP This will only set the To address when there is no previous MDP value. This may protect you from accidentally copying private, MDP off-list messages back the to list. If you are creating a NEW message why would there be any information in the message? ... Am I making any sense? Oh yes, perfectly. Now. Let's see if I can make this clear to you. When you create *any* kind of new message while you have the focus in a folder with a folder template, it gets the list address added to it. _Any kind of new message_. Let that sink in for a moment. Open the address book (or pull down the favourites in New message to). Start a new message to your girlfriend. Tell her what's on the menu for tonight. Bang! It goes to the list *because you forgot that the list folder had the focus*. Click on a web link to order your viaggra on-line. Bang! It goes to the list *because you forgot that the list folder had the focus*. The only reason I go on and on about this problem is that _it has happened before and still happens_. BTW: I don't mean to belittle or be rude in any of the above. If you're happily married, I apologise to your wife for the insinuation that you have a girlfriend, or if you are gay, then substitute boyfriend. Nor do I mean to make any personal comment when saying ordering viaggra - just trying to be humorous about it. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.22 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Auto Address New Messages
Hello Marck, Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 7:11:02 PM, you wrote: MDP Oh yes, perfectly. Now. Let's see if I can make this clear to you. MDP When you create *any* kind of new message while you have the focus MDP in a folder with a folder template, it gets the list address added MDP to it. MDP _Any kind of new message_. MDP Let that sink in for a moment. MDP Open the address book (or pull down the favourites in New message MDP to). Start a new message to your girlfriend. Tell her what's on the MDP menu for tonight. Bang! It goes to the list *because you forgot that MDP the list folder had the focus*. MDP Click on a web link to order your viaggra on-line. Bang! It goes to MDP the list *because you forgot that the list folder had the focus*. MDP The only reason I go on and on about this problem is that _it has MDP happened before and still happens_. MDP BTW: I don't mean to belittle or be rude in any of the above. If MDP you're happily married, I apologise to your wife for the insinuation MDP that you have a girlfriend, or if you are gay, then substitute MDP boyfriend. Nor do I mean to make any personal comment when saying MDP ordering viaggra - just trying to be humorous about it. I can't stop laughing! You should have been a comedian... This list is blessed to have your wit and reasoning ability. I see your point now. But, I still need it for the time being until my address book starts working again. Has anyone else complained about the address book not working, or am I the only one? Could I have corrupted it by importing my old address book? -- John Morse Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Auto Address New Messages
Hi John, Thursday, October 9, 2003, 9:35:57 AM, you wrote: MDP This will only set the To address when there is no previous value. MDP This may protect you from accidentally copying private, off-list MDP messages back the to list. JM If you are creating a NEW message why would there be any information JM in the message? I am not wanting it for the REPLY template, but only JM the NEW message template. Am I making any sense? If you use a Folder Template and you have a particular folder selected, which has a Folder Template associated with it, you can inadvertently send a new message to the wrong person/group. While I am sure most of us check that we have the right address at the top of a new email, there are always those times when we forget. As Marck said, the use of Address Book templates, rather than Folder Templates, are a much safer method. But if you REALLY want to include the following (as supplied by Marck) to the Folder Template. March correct me if I am wrong here, but I understand that it needs to be added at the top of the template screen before anything else. %IF:'%TOADDR'='':%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]' -- Regards Robyn Winter This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Robyn Winter, [RW] wrote: RW March correct me if I am wrong here, but I understand that it needs RW to be added at the top of the template screen before anything else. RW %IF:'%TOADDR'='':%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]' You can place the macro anywhere in the template, i.e., at the beginning or the end. These sorts of macros are usually at the end of my templates. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Auto-complete [was Re: Auto Address New Messages]
Hello Marck! On Wednesday, October 08, 2003, 7:11 PM, you wrote, in part: M When you create *any* kind of new message while you have the focus M in a folder with a folder template, it gets the list address added M to it. Let me mention another danger here. It's the one that caught and embarrassed me early on, and everyone thought it was from a folder template--the warning about which I had taken to heart and dealt with as advised. But it was not. It was the very convenient Auto-complete. I had recently replied to a list message in a way that named the person as well as tbudl... as in the field above that names Marck D. Pearlstone. Next, I wrote a private mail to that same person, not with a copying routine--I was so new that I thought I had to type addresses into fields on new messages. So I typed the person's name and auto-complete filled it in, with me only glancing at it, eager to write the body of my message and quickly skipping down to the subject line. Auto-complete put the last address at which I had mailed to that person, which was That Person [EMAIL PROTECTED]. And I failed to notice. My private mail went to the list, and I was most embarrassingly teased and chortled over. One way to prevent this is to put handles on your individual correspondents and when doing a new message, a cc, or a back cc, type the handle. Then the address-book address will be used, and the convenience of Auto-complete is still available to you. Of course, reading all the header fields every time might also keep a person out of trouble, but I think most of us don't do that. In certain situations it can be very dangerous not to go the address book route you are teaching us, Marck. As when private financial information or passwords get made public. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto-complete [was Re: Auto Address New Messages]
Mary Bull, [MB] wrote: MB Auto-complete put the last address at which I had mailed to that MB person, which was That Person [EMAIL PROTECTED]. And I MB failed to notice. My private mail went to the list, and I was most MB embarrassingly teased and chortled over. MB One way to prevent this is to put handles on your individual MB correspondents and when doing a new message, a cc, or a back cc, type MB the handle. Then the address-book address will be used, and the MB convenience of Auto-complete is still available to you. This happened to me on more than one occasion, though I noted the wrong address and had to change it each time. I've dealt with it in a different way. I've changed the autocomplete option in the Preferences to 'All address books'. It will therefore auto-complete using only addresses from the address book. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Auto-complete [was Re: Auto Address New Messages]
Hello Allie, Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 10:00:54 PM, you wrote: AM I've changed the autocomplete AM option in the Preferences to 'All address books'. It will therefore AM auto-complete using only addresses from the address book. Where is this feature located? I can't seem to find it. thanks -- John Morse Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Auto Address New Messages
Hello Allie, Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 9:45:17 PM, you wrote: AM You can place the macro anywhere in the template, i.e., at the beginning AM or the end. Actually, if you place it at the very beginning, it will add an extra line break before your greeting. So it can go about anywhere except at the very beginning. -- John Morse Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto-complete [was Re: Auto Address New Messages]
John Morse, [JM] wrote: AM I've changed the autocomplete option in the Preferences to 'All AM address books'. It will therefore auto-complete using only AM addresses from the address book. JM Where is this feature located? I can't seem to find it. JM thanks Options/Preferences/System ... Go to Autocomplete section and select 'All Address Books' or whatever you wish to use. There are other choices there. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
John Morse, [JM] wrote: JM Actually, if you place it at the very beginning, it will add an JM extra line break before your greeting. So it can go about anywhere JM except at the very beginning. Well, you could still put it at the beginning but just end it with the '%-' to prevent the line feed and as a result, that extra line break before the greeting. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto-complete [was Re: Auto Address New Messages]
Hi Allie, On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 10:25:26 PM, you wrote: JM Where is this feature located? I can't seem to find it. JM thanks A Options/Preferences/System ... Go to Autocomplete section and select A 'All Address Books' or whatever you wish to use. There are other choices A there. Good tip Allie, I had forgotten about that one. g Thanks -- Gary Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of checks. Using TB! 2.00.6 on SUSE Linux exclusively. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Hi John, @8-Oct-2003, 22:19 -0500 (09-Oct 04:19 UK time) John Morse said to Allie: AM You can place the macro anywhere in the template, i.e., at the AM beginning or the end. Actually, if you place it at the very beginning, it will add an extra line break before your greeting. So it can go about anywhere except at the very beginning. Oh, you can place it at the beginning too, if you add %- (do not add line break) to the end of it. :-). -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.00.22 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto-complete [was Re: Auto Address New Messages]
On Wednesday, October 8, 2003 at 11:18:00 PM, John Morse wrote in the message Auto-complete [was Re: Auto Address New Messages] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've changed the autocomplete option in the Preferences to 'All address books'. It will therefore auto-complete using only addresses from the address book. Where is this feature located? I can't seem to find it. In 1.62r, it can be found on by opening the Options menu and selecting Preferences... and then clicking on the System tab. The option is about two fifths of the way down in the dialog box. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. How can you tell when sour cream goes bad? Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto-complete [was Re: Auto Address New Messages]
Hello Allie! On Wednesday, October 08, 2003, 10:00 PM, you wrote, in part: A ... I've changed the autocomplete option in the Preferences to 'All A address books'. It will therefore auto-complete using only A addresses from the address book. Oh, much more efficient and elegant. I didn't know I could do that. Just went there. Chose default address book only. Good choice? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MenuNavigator Button
In Options|Preferences|General, I have checked 'Display MenuNavigator Button on the Caption Bar' yet I do not see the MenuNavigator Button. Once upon a time, it was visible, but I accidentally got rid of it. Where is it hiding? Maybe I have hidden the entire Caption Bar, since I am not sure what the Caption Bar is or where it is supposed to appear. -- Mike TB! v1.62r Hamster Classic v1.3.23.4 Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Hello! MDP %IF:'%TOADDR'='':%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]' If you have latest MyMacros installed (en.brain.com.ua/soft/mymacros), you can use %ToIfNone=[EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00.18 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
