Re: The Bat! Scheduler

2004-09-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Spam (again)  everyone else

27-Sep-2004 12:47, you wrote:

 I have been testing The Bat! 3.0 for 14 days now. There are some things
 that do not seem to work. For example the Scheduler. I have entered some
 recurring dates that I needed to be reminded of but The Bat! did not warn
 me when that day came up. I had selected Notify me about this event 2
 days before it starts. I had selected to use all notification parameters
 (pc speaker, notification window).

I have set up a recurring event in the latest beta version 3.0.0.19,
repeats every hour, reminder 5 minutes before the event time. After the
second notification I quitted  restarted the program and have just
received the third notification. So I'd say it works in the latest beta
version.

I have not read the history of fixes since v3 release to verify if it was
broken and has been fixed since the v3 release version of Sept 1st (the
beta.19 is from Sept 27th).

I don't know of a release date, but given the large number of fixes that
have been made since the v3 release I'd dare say that an updated release
version is only days ahead, but don't nail me down on that. :-)

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Re: What are these exe file in TB folder ?

2004-09-28 Thread Raymund Tump
Hi Chris!

 That is correct. The .cnt contains the help file's table of contents.
 The .gid file contains the index used when searching. I belive that
 both can be safely deleted.

No good idea to delete the .cnt as you will lose your content. The GID file
is autogenerated and normally hidden. The content is authored and therefore
part of the installation.

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Re: What are these exe file in TB folder ?

2004-09-28 Thread Mic Cullen
At 11:58 [GMT+0200 (MEST)] on Tuesday September 28 (actual time - 5:58pm on
Tuesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:

[snips]

 That is correct. The .cnt contains the help file's table of contents.
 The .gid file contains the index used when searching. I belive that
 both can be safely deleted.

Raymund No good idea to delete the .cnt as you will lose your content.

Yeah, and that's REALLY gonna hurt :-)

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Re[2]: All message deleted by filter !

2004-09-28 Thread WilWilWil
==Original message text===
From: Mica Mijatovic 
To: WilWilWil 
Date: Monday, September 27, 2004, 3:03:26 PM
Subject: All message deleted by filter !
 That's the reason why I receive no maill from my friends since a week !!!

MM A week is a lot for noticing this. Use Dispatcher, and you'll notice
MM instantly (how the filters marked your mail).

===End of original message text===
A week is a not a lot . I didn't want to say that I was in front of my labtop during a 
week. I was in training all the week anf when I come back home, I was in trouble to 
not see any mail received this special week.

You say Use Dispatcher.

Can you explain me what is dispatcher and how to use it ?

If it's dangerous to search job by mail with TB and dangerous to use OE because of 
viruses, what soft will I use !  :-(

Thanks.

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Re: All message deleted by filter !

2004-09-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello WilWilWil  everyone else

28-Sep-2004 13:23, you wrote:

 You say Use Dispatcher.

 Can you explain me what is dispatcher and how to use it ?

Select the account you want to check, then from the Account menu, select
Dispatch mail on server - All Messages - this way you see which messages
are in your POP3 box before you download them, and choose further actions.

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Re: All message deleted by filter !

2004-09-28 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Tue, 28 Sep 2004,
   @  @  at 13:23:48 +0200, when WilWilWil wrote:

 ==Original message text===
 From: Mica Mijatovic
 To: WilWilWil
 Date: Monday, September 27, 2004, 3:03:26 PM
 Subject: All message deleted by filter !

 That's the reason why I receive no maill from my friends since a week !!!

MM A week is a lot for noticing this. Use Dispatcher, and you'll notice
MM instantly (how the filters marked your mail).

 ===End of original message text===
 A week is a not a lot . I didn't want to say that I was in front of
 my labtop during a week. I was in training all the week anf when I
 come back home, I was in trouble to not see any mail received this
 special week.

Ah, OK, I understood something else. (-:

 You say Use Dispatcher.

 Can you explain me what is dispatcher and how to use it ?

Go to Account / Properties / Mail management / Mail Dispatcher, and then
check:

+ Invoke automatically at each mail check

+ Show all messages left on the server

Then, every time you check the mail, the Dispatcher will appear and will
show all messages you have on server, before you download them. There
you will see how your (selective download) filters have checked your
mail. If they screwed up and unchecked download column and had checked
delete, then you could manually check download, so you can get your
mail. Or simply you could close Dispatcher without any action and
preserve all your mail untouched on the server -- until you *change*
your filter rules, *or*, until you get back to a TB version you are able
to manage these rules in a safer manner.

 If it's dangerous to search job by mail with TB and dangerous to
 use OE because of viruses, what soft will I use !  :-(

Use *previous* stable/reliable version of TB, and you have the problem
solved. I still use 2.12.00. (The selective download filters of mine,
after they were converted to NFS, also screwed up my mail and they had
deleted about 70 messages, in one turn. Fortunately, all the mail which
was deleted was recorded in LOG file [Ctrl+Shift+A], so I could see what
was important in there and could ask the senders to send their letters
again.)

 Thanks.

You're welcome. (-:

I believe that we, in the near future, will have special marking of the
time: Bv3 and Av3, meaning before v3 and after v3. That big are
changes, ...on the Path of Perfection. (-;

(A honest man would say: Sorry, we screwed up. We'll see to fix it
somehow. Others though try to make invisible the naked wo/man dancing
in the middle of a dense traffic square. (-: )

Cheers, and take care.

- --
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[Earth LOG: 27 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing]
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Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Cristina Ramos
Hello all,

Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark.
What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely
signing your messages? How do I do that?

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Re: OT : How to setup a GMail account with The Bat!

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo subscriber2list,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:55:31 -0400GMT (28-9-2004, 12:55 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

S Yes, agree wholeheartedly ... BUT I've finally starting receiving
S messages from the yahoogroups I subscribed to.  Odd thing though was
S the length of time it took for the process to start.

That happens sometimes.
When I switched addresses on this list (subscribing anew address and
unsubscribing the old address) the new address was subbed in a moment,
but the old address kept on coming for ages, so I blocked it in my
mail server. (and Yahoo acts faster upon bounces than user commands)

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello Cristina,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 8:14:38 AM, you wrote:

 Hello all,

 Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark.
 What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely
 signing your messages? How do I do that?


Hi Cristina,

I believe you are referring to the PGP/GPG/Authenticating Signature of
the posts. Like mine is a PGP Signature and if you have PGP (Pretty
Good Privacy) installed you can check the validity of the message by
checking the signature.

As for the other ways to check, I am not very familiar with, but I am
sure someone can help out.

You can read all about PGP at www.pgp.com

Hope this helps.

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Allie Martin
Hi  Cristina
 You wrote:

 Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark.
 What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely
 signing your messages? How do I do that?

That little yellow circle with a checkmark indicates that the message
has been signed using either S/MIME or PGP/MIME.

To do this, you'd have to have PGP or GnuPG installed and working, and
then enable TB! support for them. You can then sign using the Privacy
settings in the editor.

For PGP/GnuPG, you'd have to create a set of keys to sign with. For
S/MIME, you'll need to get one created for you through one of the
certificate authorities.

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Re: All message deleted by filter !

2004-09-28 Thread Anne
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 12:23:48 PM, WilWilWil wrote in message:
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
W Can you explain me what is dispatcher and how to use it ?


There's a simple walkthrough of Dispatcher on Marck's
silverstones.com website. You can read it here:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/beginners/Dispatcher.html

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cristina,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:14:38 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 15:14 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CR Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark.

Those are smileys, they're sent along to show that the sender is in a
good mood. :pulling-leg:

CR What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely
CR signing your messages?

It has to do with digitally signing your message and thus showing that
you sent the message and that it wasn't tampered with on the way to
the recipient.

CR How do I do that?

You get a certificate by Thawte (or some others) or you create a PGP
key (GPG is compatible with that) and you sign your message.

Both work with a public and a private key. You sign with the private
key and the signature is checked with the public key.

The main differences between the two types are that with certificates
you send the public part along with every signed message and with PGP
the public keys can be requested from the owner or from a key-server.
With certificates the signing is done by the mail client, with PGP
it's done with that PGP/GPG variety that you've got installed.
Messages signed with a certificate are substantially bigger than the
same message PGP signed.

With PGP you've got two ways of signing messages, you can either sign
in the text (that's when you find messages starting with -BEGIN PGP SIGNED 
MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1 and ending with some odd codes) or with the signature as
attachment, the latter looks a lot better, but unfortunately not all
mail clients support PGP/MIME (TB does support it)

Most signed messages on this list are PGP signed, it's been quite a
while that I've seen a MIME signed message and that's not only on this
list, but that might just be the kind people I hang around with.


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Re: OT : How to setup a GMail account with The Bat!

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:25:52 +0200GMT (28-9-2004, 15:25 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO When I switched addresses on this list (subscribing anew address and

That should be 'tbot' instead of 'this list'. Before I'm getting into
troubles with Johannes I'll add that the switching on tbudl, tbtech
and tbbeta went very smooth and fast.

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Re: All message deleted by filter !

2004-09-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mica Mijatovic  everyone else

28-Sep-2004 14:27, you wrote:

 Then, every time you check the mail, the Dispatcher will appear and will
 show all messages you have on server, before you download them. There you
 will see how your (selective download) filters have checked your mail.

Interesting - you can see the results of the selective download filter this
way? I didn't know that, thanks a lot Mica!

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Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-09-28 Thread Nikola Knezevic
Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [27.9.2004, 3:40:43 PM]:

   So, how to write filter which will append every message coming in
   JUNK from account tesla to file spam.txt?

   I've set up filter in Incoming mail for Common folders, but it
   doesn't do its job. I've even set to add colour group, just to see
   how it works, but nothing happens, until I manually refilter JUNK
   folder.

DG Have you tried:

DG 1. TheBat! = Options = Prefences = Antispam

DG  [x] Mark stored junk mail as read.

DG 2. TheBat! = Account = Sorting Office/Filters = Read messages

DG  Set up your filter up in the Read messages folder.

OK, this works, but it beats me why the method using Incoming mail
doesn't work as expected (or my expectations are wrong).

But, as someone said, NFS doesn't quite work. Using this method, I've
made a filter which will mark all read messages (in JUNK folder with my
email as recipient) as unread. But it worked yesteday, and today it
isn't working... :)

BTW, what's the purpose of Source folder in filter conditions?



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Re: Russian/Cyrillic Signature File in The Bat! 3.0

2004-09-28 Thread Maksym Kozub
David wrote:

DMD Because I send e-mail messages containing Russian/Cyrillic text,
DMD any e-mail client upon which I decide must support Cyrillic text.
(skipped)
DMD My problem comes with my signature file, which is a few lines of
DMD Pushkin, in Russian. I have the signature file saved as a separate
DMD Unicode/Cyrillic text file, but when The Bat! imports the file,
DMD the result is gibberish characters that are not Russian at all.

DMD I am using the following cookie setup in my preferences for
DMD the account I am using for testing, inserting a newline character
DMD (\n) at the end of each line, as instructed by the on-line help,
DMD %COOKIE=C:\pushkin-signature-unicode-koi8-r.txt.

Well, I would consider thge following as a possible solution. Save your
signature file as non-Unicode Windows Cyrillic. Use some (re-)encoding
software to make it KOI-8. Use
%COOKIE=C:\pushkin-signature-your-plain-non-unicode-koi8-r.txt :).

I personally would recommend Decode by Boris Berdichevskiy,
http://www.borisba.com/~borisba/decode21.zip (that page is unfortunately
Russian only, but the program interface is in English.) I can send you the
latest version by personal e-mail if you wish. This software is free. ZIP
archive, something about 250 KB. Doesn't need installation; unpack it, and
you're done.

I sincerely recommending his software to everybody Cyrillic-(and other-)
encodings-challenged. (For the record, I am in no way associated with its
author.)

Regards,
Maksym

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Re: Complete Automatically Case sentitive

2004-09-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello expires30sept04,

You got a name?

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:00:22 +0100 GMT (28/09/2004, 03:00 +0700 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

eycu using v2 autocomplete from the address books does not work at all

[...]

eycu Testing, here crtl+ seems to cycle through the address book
eycu entries (including CAs and including favourites as well as
eycu entries matching what you've typed) but not from the input
eycu history.

Correct. That's what I said.

eycu If you typed nothing first, it cycles through all entries
eycu in all address books.

Sure.

eycu The ordinary autocomplete picks entries only from the input
eycu history and not from any address books.

Even if you choose History+All Address Books?

eycu The Autocomplete settings in Options  Preferences  System will
eycu turn on or off the Autocomplete from input list but will not
eycu activate Autocomplete from the Address Books

Are you seeing five different options? Any combination of histroy and
address books is possible.

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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Cristina Ramos
Hello Roelof,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:18:45 PM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Cristina,

RO On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:14:38 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 15:14 +0200, where I
RO live), you wrote:

CR Some of the messages I receive have a yellow circle with a checkmark.

RO Those are smileys, they're sent along to show that the sender is in a
RO good mood. :pulling-leg:

CR What does that mean exactly? Does it have anything to do with securely
CR signing your messages?

RO It has to do with digitally signing your message and thus showing that
RO you sent the message and that it wasn't tampered with on the way to
RO the recipient.

CR How do I do that?

RO You get a certificate by Thawte (or some others) or you create a PGP
RO key (GPG is compatible with that) and you sign your message.

RO Both work with a public and a private key. You sign with the private
RO key and the signature is checked with the public key.

RO The main differences between the two types are that with certificates
RO you send the public part along with every signed message and with PGP
RO the public keys can be requested from the owner or from a key-server.
RO With certificates the signing is done by the mail client, with PGP
RO it's done with that PGP/GPG variety that you've got installed.
RO Messages signed with a certificate are substantially bigger than the
RO same message PGP signed.

RO With PGP you've got two ways of signing messages, you can either sign
RO in the text (that's when you find messages starting with
RO -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
RO Hash: SHA1 and ending with some odd codes) or with the signature as
RO attachment, the latter looks a lot better, but unfortunately not all
RO mail clients support PGP/MIME (TB does support it)

RO Most signed messages on this list are PGP signed, it's been quite a
RO while that I've seen a MIME signed message and that's not only on this
RO list, but that might just be the kind people I hang around with.

Ok, but the yellow circle doesn't appear consistently (I know there
are mood swings lol ). I mean, this message you sent has a TXT file
attached as you mentioned, but no yellow circle.

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Re: need help please: why ? in subject line in viewer window?

2004-09-28 Thread Bin Wang
could any one tell me how to unsubscribe please?

BW Hello experts,

BW I am trying The Bat! Home Edition 3.0. Now I found
a
BW problem. Some
BW e-mails are in Chinese.

BW In earlier versions, the subject line could show
BW Chinese characters in
BW viewer window as well as in message list window
BW although in RFC-822
BW headers such characters as =?gb2312?B?x+8gwOs=?=
BW showed up.

BW In this new version, in some accounts, Chinese
still
BW can be shown.
BW However, in other accounts, Chinese characters
could
BW not be shown
BW correctly in the subject line in the viewer window
BW although they are
BW shown in RFC-822 headers and in the message list
BW window. This not only
BW happens in subject line, but in from and to line.
All
BW Chinese were
BW replaced with ?. Strangely, when I save the
message,
BW Chinese subject
BW can show up. But those ? are very annoying.

BW I do not know if appropriate to send the
attachment to
BW the list. I
BW have two screenshots. But I did not send.

BW Could anyone tell me how to solve this problem?
Thanks
BW in advance.





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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cristina,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:08 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 19:35 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CR Ok, but the yellow circle doesn't appear consistently (I know there
CR are mood swings lol ). I mean, this message you sent has a TXT file
CR attached as you mentioned, but no yellow circle.

Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in
it.

The text file isn't the signature file (TB doesn't show that), but the
list footer. The list server (like most list servers) isn't able to
attach footers to the body of messages that have attachments. That's a
good thing too, since adding text to the message would invalidate the
signature.

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Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Security newby and yellow circles)

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cristina,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:08 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 19:35 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CR Hello Roelof,

moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Cristina.

  '

Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that
insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and
list footer remain in the quoted text.

To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of
private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you
subscribed.

Thank you.
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Re: need help please: why ? in subject line in viewer window?

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bin,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:10:17 -0700 (PDT)GMT (28-9-2004, 20:10 +0200,
where I live), you wrote:

H8 could any one tell me how to unsubscribe please?

http://stromgrade.its-toasted.org/mailman/listinfo/tbudl

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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Cristina Ramos
Hello Roelof,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:24:52 PM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Cristina,

RO On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:35:08 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 19:35 +0200, where I
RO live), you wrote:

CR Ok, but the yellow circle doesn't appear consistently (I know there
CR are mood swings lol ). I mean, this message you sent has a TXT file
CR attached as you mentioned, but no yellow circle.

RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in
RO it.

RO The text file isn't the signature file (TB doesn't show that), but the
RO list footer. The list server (like most list servers) isn't able to
RO attach footers to the body of messages that have attachments. That's a
RO good thing too, since adding text to the message would invalidate the
RO signature.


I have one of your messages parked (TBOT about using the
%Language=ID macro) and it has a yellow circle and no TXT file
attached; these 2 last messages have the footer attached as you
mentioned but no circle. And I'm sitting right in the same place when
I look at these messages LOL . So why do you think this happens?

Another question: what's the best site to download PGP? I went to
http://pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html and it keeps giving me an
error message saying I have my firewall blocking referrals, even after
I disabled the firewall.

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Roelof,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote:


RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in
RO it.

um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green !
and it is always a question mark until I click on it and verify the PGP
signature, isn't that the way it should be?

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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Cristina Ramos
Hello Paul,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:59:08 PM, you wrote:

PC Hello Roelof,

PC Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote:


RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in
RO it.

PC um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green !
PC and it is always a question mark until I click on it and verify the PGP
PC signature, isn't that the way it should be?

What I see is a yellow circle with a brown check mark on it.


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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello Paul,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 1:59:08 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Roelof,

 Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:24:52 PM, you wrote:


RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in
RO it.

 um, I know I'm colorblind, but I SWEAR that circle is green !
 and it is always a question mark until I click on it and verify the PGP
 signature, isn't that the way it should be?


Yes, mine is the same as yours, I belive.

I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little
mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of
olive drab circle around it.

As soon as I verified the signature, it tuned to a Check mark with a bright
green circle around it.

At least that is what I am showing.

Hope this helps...

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Michael Acklin  everyone else

28-Sep-2004 21:24, you wrote:

 I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little
 mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of
 olive drab circle around it.

Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-)

Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the
*messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the
status of the signed message (verified or not) is in the upper right hand
corner of the *headerpane* (I think thats what you're talking about), and
thats the brownish thing with the question mark that turn into a green
checkmark circle thing when you verify the signature...

Bingo?

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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello Alexander,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:43:06 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Michael Acklin  everyone else

 28-Sep-2004 21:24, you wrote:

 I just checked all of Roelof's e-mail and before verifying them the little
 mark in the upper right hand corner was a question mark with a kind of
 olive drab circle around it.

 Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-)

 Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the
 *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the
 status of the signed message (verified or not) is in the upper right hand
 corner of the *headerpane* (I think thats what you're talking about), and
 thats the brownish thing with the question mark that turn into a green
 checkmark circle thing when you verify the signature...

 Bingo?


Bingo!

I hadn't really paid any attention to the *messagelist*. But now that
you mentioned it, that is what I am seeing also there.

And yes, I was referring to the *headerpane* when I made my comment to
Paul.

So now I am much more informed than I was before. :)

Thanks for that help...

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Alexander,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:43:06 PM, you wrote:

ASK Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-)

maybe not..

ASK Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the
ASK *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the
ASK status of the signed message (verified or not) is in the upper right hand
ASK corner of the *headerpane* (I think thats what you're talking about), and
ASK thats the brownish thing with the question mark that turn into a green
ASK checkmark circle thing when you verify the signature...

I was talking about the headerpane being green, not yellow. Now that you
mention it, I haven't seen any of the yellow checkmark signed icons in a
while, I wonder if I have that column off, or...


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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Alexander,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:43:06 PM, you wrote:

ASK Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the
ASK *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while
ASK the

never mind, I answered my own question by going back and looking at my
tbot folder.. I see the YELLOW checkmarks on the message envelopes...

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Re: OT : How to setup a GMail account with The Bat!

2004-09-28 Thread Doug Weller
Just found someone else complaining about the length of time it's taking
to switch a yahoo group to gmail, but someone else said it can often
take 3 days.

Doug


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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Cristina Ramos
Hello Paul,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 9:48:01 PM, you wrote:

PC Hello Alexander,

PC Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:43:06 PM, you wrote:

ASK Are you sure you're talking about the same thing? :-)

PC maybe not..

ASK Signed messages have a little yellow circle with a brown checkmark in the
ASK *messagelist* (I think thats what Cristina is talking about), while the
ASK status of the signed message (verified or not) is in the upper right hand
ASK corner of the *headerpane* (I think thats what you're talking about), and
ASK thats the brownish thing with the question mark that turn into a green
ASK checkmark circle thing when you verify the signature...

PC I was talking about the headerpane being green, not yellow. Now that you
PC mention it, I haven't seen any of the yellow checkmark signed icons in a
PC while, I wonder if I have that column off, or...

Now that you mention it, whenever I click that question mark a window
opens saying it's an invalid signature (unknown signature format). Is
it my configuration of The Bat or is it supposed to be like that?

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Cristina,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:10:58 PM, you wrote:

CR Now that you mention it, whenever I click that question mark a window
CR opens saying it's an invalid signature (unknown signature format). Is
CR it my configuration of The Bat or is it supposed to be like that?

do you have the keyservers setup to check it??
it only works if people put their keys on the keyservers OR they give
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Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

2004-09-28 Thread Spam

  Hello everyone,

  I posted a message earlier about mail filtering on IMAP folders. I
  am using The Bat! 3 and it seem as the mail filters only activate if
  I click on the Inbox folder. The mail is still received as normally
  and I get a new mail icon in the system tray. The problem is the
  filters which do not activate unless I click on the Inbox folder.
  When I do I can see messages moved to Trash and other folders.

  What can be the problem and how do I get around this?

  Thank you for any suggestion.

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Re: Filtering inside JUNK folder

2004-09-28 Thread Dan Grunberg
Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:55:01 +0200 (10:55 AM EDT here) Nikola Knezevic wrote:

 Dan, ovo si ti izjavio [27.9.2004, 3:40:43 PM]:

   So, how to write filter which will append every message coming
   in JUNK from account tesla to file spam.txt?

   I've set up filter in Incoming mail for Common folders, but it
   doesn't do its job. I've even set to add colour group, just to
   see how it works, but nothing happens, until I manually refilter
   JUNK folder.

DG Have you tried:

DG 1. TheBat! = Options = Prefences = Antispam

DG  [x] Mark stored junk mail as read.

DG 2. TheBat! = Account = Sorting Office/Filters = Read messages

DG  Set up your filter up in the Read messages folder.

 OK, this works, but it beats me why the method using Incoming mail
 doesn't work as expected (or my expectations are wrong).

 But, as someone said, NFS doesn't quite work. Using this method,
 I've made a filter which will mark all read messages (in JUNK folder
 with my email as recipient) as unread. But it worked yesteday, and
 today it isn't working... :)

 BTW, what's the purpose of Source folder in filter conditions?

The Source folder is fixed as the Inbox for Incoming mail filters.

The Source folder is fixed as the Outbox for Outgoing mail filters.

The Source folder for Replied and Read filters is selectable.

A selectable Source folder allows messages, that already have been
filtered and moved to any folder, to be filtered again by a Replied
filter or a Read filter. The Replied or Read filtering becomes more
efficient (faster), because only messages that already have been
recognized by other filters will be filtered again.


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How do I know BayesIT is learning anything?

2004-09-28 Thread admin
I have a sneaking suspicion that although BayesIT is filtering, that
it isn't actually learning from messages subsequently not filterd but
then marked as junk.

How could I determine whether it IS in fact learning from these?

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Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-28 Thread Code 2
I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of
spam and non-spam messages.  Despite this, it's catching only about
10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt
just can't do the job or the spammers are outwitting it.  Either way,
I'm not prepared to invest any more time in it.

Can you guys suggest a better alternative?

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Re: Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-28 Thread Spam

  

 I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of
 spam and non-spam messages.  Despite this, it's catching only about
 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt
 just can't do the job or the spammers are outwitting it.  Either way,
 I'm not prepared to invest any more time in it.

 Can you guys suggest a better alternative?

  Yes, use SpamAssassin. Not sure if it could be used though The bat!
  though. I am using it in conjunction with my email server to mark
  messages as SPAM. It works very effectively (would be better if The
  Bat!'s email filters would work good with IMAP folders).

  ~S

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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Cristina Ramos
Hello Paul,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 10:18:55 PM, you wrote:

PC Hello Cristina,

PC Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:10:58 PM, you wrote:

CR Now that you mention it, whenever I click that question mark a window
CR opens saying it's an invalid signature (unknown signature format). Is
CR it my configuration of The Bat or is it supposed to be like that?

PC do you have the keyservers setup to check it??
PC it only works if people put their keys on the keyservers OR they give
PC you info in the headers on how to get their keys..

Could you step by step it, please?:notworthy:

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Cristina,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 6:03:16 PM, you wrote:

PC do you have the keyservers setup to check it??
PC it only works if people put their keys on the keyservers OR they give
PC you info in the headers on how to get their keys..

CR Could you step by step it, please?:notworthy:

if you want to try the other method, here is the web site link that has
my key:
http://home.comcast.net/~p.cartwright/wsb/Paul_gawab.asc

just import it into your keyring.


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Re: Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Code,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:51:47 PM, you wrote:

C2 I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of
C2 spam and non-spam messages.  Despite this, it's catching only about
C2 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt
C2 just can't do the job or the spammers are outwitting it.  Either way,
C2 I'm not prepared to invest any more time in it.

C2 Can you guys suggest a better alternative?


I would suggest K9 or Popfile. They are 3rd-party programs, but mine is
about 98% right ( I use K9). There is also the OTHER Bayes plugin,
Bayes Filter, by Achim Winkler.

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Re[2]: need help please: why ? in subject line in viewer window?

2004-09-28 Thread Bin Wang
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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Richard,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 6:18:07 PM, you wrote:

RW Have a read of this for starters and I suggest joining pgp-users
RW newsgroup too, very friendly and that's where I learnt how to work it.

thank you Richard!!!
I may even read those, I've uninstalled  reinstalled my PGP setup a few
times, and I know I'm missing some key servers.. I know theres a LIST
somewhere :)
I think I'm running PGP 8.03 :) and I've never tried PGPdisk..

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Re: How do I know BayesIT is learning anything?

2004-09-28 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Marten,

 I have a sneaking suspicion that although BayesIT is filtering, that
 it isn't actually learning from messages subsequently not filterd but
 then marked as junk.

 How could I determine whether it IS in fact learning from these?

One way is to look at the statistics BayesIt generates. The would be
found here:

Options  Preferences  Plug-ins  BayesIt  Information

Highlight the BayesIt plugin and click the info button and you will
see a large amount of data pertaining to BayesIt's actions. This is
were I would start anyhow.

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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Paul,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PC I think I'm running PGP 8.03 :)

Click on Help in your PGPKeys and it'll give the version. It's up to 8.1
now.

PC and I've never tried PGPdisk..

Me neither, I use The Bat Private Disk. Works fine.

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Re: Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-28 Thread P.Johnson
Hello Code2,
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
C2 I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of
C2 spam and non-spam messages.  Despite this, it's catching only about
C2 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt
C2 just can't do the job or the spammers are outwitting it.  Either way,
C2 I'm not prepared to invest any more time in it.

C2 Can you guys suggest a better alternative?

There is another bayesian filter plug-in for TB! called Bayes Filter:
http://www.lkcc.org/achim

I've been using it for about a week now with good results.

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Re: need help please: why ? in subject line in viewer window?

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bin,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:36:06 -0700 (PDT)GMT (29-9-2004, 0:36 +0200,
where I live), you wrote:

H8 thank you, MAU, Roelof Otten,

I don't know why, since you still didn't cancel your subscription.

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Mod: Cut mark (was: need help please: why ? in subject line in viewer window?)

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bin,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:36:06 -0700 (PDT)GMT (29-9-2004, 0:36 +0200,
where I live), you wrote:

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moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Bin.

  '

Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists
of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line.
This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
the signature and list footers since everything below and including
the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting.

You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in
your templates.

Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any
difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being
courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added
to your signature by the list server.

To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of
private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you
subscribed.

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Cristina,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:55:33 +0100GMT (28-9-2004, 20:55 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CR I have one of your messages parked (TBOT about using the
CR %Language=ID macro) and it has a yellow circle and no TXT file
CR attached; these 2 last messages have the footer attached as you
CR mentioned but no circle. And I'm sitting right in the same place when
CR I look at these messages LOL . So why do you think this happens?

You're talking about a different list and therefore different rules.
All my messages in the 'still teaching English' thread are signed, so
they should be appropriately marked. (They are on my system.)

I don't see a list footer on my messages on that thread, neither at
the bottom of the message nor as an attached text file. Are you sure
you don't see the yellow circle, after all that's the thread that got
Mica asking about PGP/MIME since he was missing the list footer on my
messages.
Are you sure you're seeing a list footer and not my signature? If so,
please post the message-id of said message, so I can check on my own
system.

CR Another question: what's the best site to download PGP?

Don't know. Any site offering PGP or GPG should be good enough.

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Re: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

2004-09-28 Thread Allie Martin
Spam, [S] wrote:

 I posted a message earlier about mail filtering on IMAP folders. I
 am using The Bat! 3 and it seem as the mail filters only activate if
 I click on the Inbox folder. The mail is still received as normally
 and I get a new mail icon in the system tray. The problem is the
 filters which do not activate unless I click on the Inbox folder.
 When I do I can see messages moved to Trash and other folders.

There's nothing you can do about this. This is how TB!'s IMAP
filtering behaves at the moment. You could check to see if your ISP
offers a webmail access to your account and if so, check if you can
filter from there. In this way you could do some of the filtering at
the server level. Otherwise, TB!'s IMAP is very frustrating when it
comes to auto-filtering.

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Paul,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:59:08 -0400GMT (28-9-2004, 20:59 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO Actually, from where I sit, I see a yellow circle with a checkmark in
RO it.
PC um, I know I'm colorblind,

So am I.

PC but I SWEAR that circle is green !

I believe you've already got that sorted out. ;-)

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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Michael Acklin
Hello Paul,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:52:32 PM, you wrote:

 thank you Richard!!!
 I may even read those, I've uninstalled  reinstalled my PGP setup a few
 times, and I know I'm missing some key servers.. I know theres a LIST
 somewhere :)
 I think I'm running PGP 8.03 :) and I've never tried PGPdisk..

I just checked today and there is a new version of PGP available.
Version 8.1 and is working great so far.

Believe or not, I used to use PGP 2.6, the command line version of PGP
when it first came out. In fact I still have some RSA Keys attached to
my Keyring that are still functional. :)

Long story behind PGP and is very interesting if you ever get to read
the history of PGP.

Anyway, if you get a chance to download PGP 8.1, you can update your
current version that way. And BTW, I have been using PGPDisk for many
years also. :)


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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Roelof,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 8:45:17 PM, you wrote:

PC but I SWEAR that circle is green !

RO I believe you've already got that sorted out. ;-)


yup, your message had a yellow checkmark and a green ? !

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Richard,

Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 7:45:54 PM, you wrote:


RW Click on Help in your PGPKeys and it'll give the version. It's up to 8.1
RW now.

yup, I just downloaded 8.1 , I think I might have had a problem before,
something about a firewall, but I got it this time..

PC and I've never tried PGPdisk..

RW Me neither, I use The Bat Private Disk. Works fine.

never tried that either!

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Re[2]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Cristina Ramos
Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, September 29, 2004, 1:43:21 AM, you wrote:


RO I don't see a list footer on my messages on that thread, neither at
RO the bottom of the message nor as an attached text file. Are you sure
RO you don't see the yellow circle, after all that's the thread that got
RO Mica asking about PGP/MIME since he was missing the list footer on my
RO messages.
RO Are you sure you're seeing a list footer and not my signature? If so,
RO please post the message-id of said message, so I can check on my own
RO system.

No, it's your footer I see, not the list footer. My question was about
the fact that in those TBOT messages there's not TXT attatchment and
in these massages there is an attachment.

Now a confession: the only reason I couldn't see the yellow circle in
these last messages was because :oops: in my TBUL folder I didn't have
a message flag column.

CR Another question: what's the best site to download PGP?

RO Don't know. Any site offering PGP or GPG should be good enough.

I finally managed to download PGP 8.1 (a free version from
http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html). The problem was the
Download Manager. When I disabled it I could save the programme and
install it.

After much fighting I ended up with two S/MIME certificates from Thawte
and InstantSSL :lol: and finally a PGP Key. I hope it's working.

And all of you with the infamous olive question marks have already
pretty green checkmarks.

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Re: Mail filtering on IMAP folders?

2004-09-28 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Allie Martin

-
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, at 19:44:54 [GMT -0500] (which was 5:44 PM where
I live) you wrote:

 Otherwise, TB!'s IMAP is very frustrating when it
 comes to auto-filtering.

To say the least. sigh


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Re[3]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Cristina,

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

CR After much fighting I ended up with two S/MIME certificates from Thawte
CR and InstantSSL :lol: and finally a PGP Key. I hope it's working.

Gosh you did all that very quickly and efficiently. Very impressive 'cos
it took me a couple of days to get PGP sorted out properly.

CR And all of you with the infamous olive question marks have already
CR pretty green checkmarks.

And so does yours too having just imported your key.

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Re[3]: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Michael,

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MA Anyway, if you get a chance to download PGP 8.1, you can update your
MA current version that way.

Did it as soon as it came out.

MA And BTW, I have been using PGPDisk for many years also.

It's a useful little programme as I back up all my files to a USB drive.

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Re: Security newby and yellow circles

2004-09-28 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed 29 September 2004, 8:18:07 +1000, Richard Wakeford wrote:
 For the moment, you might like to look at PGPDisk - I think there
 is still a free version of PGP which includes this asideCan anyone else
 shed light on this?/aside.

I think the last version of PGP that had a free PGPDisk was v6.x. I was
using that, but because it claimed not to be compatible with Win XP, I
upgraded to v8.

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SpamPal or K9?

2004-09-28 Thread Michael L. Wilson
Hi,

I have to get off BayesIT!  It learns way to slow.  What do people
think of SpamPal or K9?  I have tried both and like both...so, what do
others think?

-- 
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Critic
Teacher

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