Re: TB Crashes
Hello Roger, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 12:14:27 AM, you wrote: Hello Tim, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 7:12:18 AM, among other things, you wrote: TH Can anyone tell me why TB crashes all the time when launching a Word TH doc? It does not crash for everybody, it works OK for me. I have no idea what your problem may be, but suggest you try reinstalling The Bat! and then MS Word if you still have a problem.. TH And why does TB hesitate so long in sending mail? It acts as though TH it's on it's last leg. Again, I have no problem. I think it is more likely a problem with your SMTP server, perhaps it is overloaded. I also failed to mention that this delay happens when sending email as well. -- Best regards, Timmailto:timh...@cox.net Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Crashes
Hello Roger, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 12:14:27 AM, you wrote: Hello Tim, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 7:12:18 AM, among other things, you wrote: TH Can anyone tell me why TB crashes all the time when launching a Word TH doc? It does not crash for everybody, it works OK for me. I have no idea what your problem may be, but suggest you try reinstalling The Bat! and then MS Word if you still have a problem.. I have tried re-installing TB twice now with the same results. I failed to mention before that even getting web pages from TB takes forever sometimes. TH And why does TB hesitate so long in sending mail? It acts as though TH it's on it's last leg. Again, I have no problem. I think it is more likely a problem with your SMTP server, perhaps it is overloaded. It took 1:28 to retrieve 11 messages of which none had attachments. I have two other email clients installed, Barca2 and Outlook and the email retrieves within seconds for the same 11 messages. -- Best regards, Timmailto:timh...@cox.net Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Crashes
Hello Ian, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 2:22:06 AM, you wrote: G'day Tim, On Sunday, December 6, 2009, at 4:12:18 PM, you (Tim Hamm) wrote: TH Hello TBUDL, TH Can anyone tell me why TB crashes all the time when launching a Word TH doc? This has become extremely annoying to say the least. And why TH does TB hesitate so long in sending mail? It acts as though it's on TH it's last leg. I am using Word 2000 and have no such issues. Does this happen with any Word file, or just particular ones? Any Does the file open OK if you save it first and then open it from either Word or Explorer? Yes, sometimes this happens from other folders and Explorer. I will try reinstalling Word to see if this solves that issue. On the sending of mail, do you have delayed sending enabled, but the alert dialog suppressed? I have immediate sending enables and not sure what you are referring to on the alert dialog suppresses. I have the mail ticker suppressed if that's what you mean. -- Best regards, Timmailto:timh...@cox.net Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Crashes
Hello Tim, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 6:45:59 PM, among other things, you wrote: TH Can anyone tell me why TB crashes all the time when launching a Word TH doc? It does not crash for everybody, it works OK for me. I have no idea what your problem may be, but suggest you try reinstalling The Bat! and then MS Word if you still have a problem.. TH I have tried re-installing TB twice now with the same results. I TH failed to mention before that even getting web pages from TB takes TH forever sometimes. This kind of variability can be due to server overloading or heavy traffic to the particular web address. i.e. nothing to do with TB. TH And why does TB hesitate so long in sending mail? It acts as though TH it's on it's last leg. Again, I have no problem. I think it is more likely a problem with your SMTP server, perhaps it is overloaded. TH It took 1:28 to retrieve 11 messages of which none had attachments. I TH have two other email clients installed, Barca2 and Outlook and the TH email retrieves within seconds for the same 11 messages. We were talking about SENDING mail, not receiving it! It is possible that subsidiary programmes may be slowing things down on the receiving side. Did all the mail clients have EXACTLY the same anti virus and anti spam programmes operating during your receiving tests? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.13.4 ALPHA (Home) POP3 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Crashes
Hello Roger, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 11:03:11 AM, you wrote: Hello Tim, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 6:45:59 PM, among other things, you wrote: TH Can anyone tell me why TB crashes all the time when launching a Word TH doc? It does not crash for everybody, it works OK for me. I have no idea what your problem may be, but suggest you try reinstalling The Bat! and then MS Word if you still have a problem.. TH I have tried re-installing TB twice now with the same results. I TH failed to mention before that even getting web pages from TB takes TH forever sometimes. This kind of variability can be due to server overloading or heavy traffic to the particular web address. i.e. nothing to do with TB. Again, I excluded the fact that this is related to server overloading... I ran my other two email clients with no issues what-so-ever. TH And why does TB hesitate so long in sending mail? It acts as though TH it's on it's last leg. Again, I have no problem. I think it is more likely a problem with your SMTP server, perhaps it is overloaded. See answer above TH It took 1:28 to retrieve 11 messages of which none had attachments. I TH have two other email clients installed, Barca2 and Outlook and the TH email retrieves within seconds for the same 11 messages. We were talking about SENDING mail, not receiving it! I'm referring to both sending and receiving. It is possible that subsidiary programmes may be slowing things down on the receiving side. Did all the mail clients have EXACTLY the same anti virus and anti spam programmes operating during your receiving tests? Yes, except for the AntiSpamSniper I have for TB. -- Best regards, Timmailto:timh...@cox.net Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving DB and settings from Voyager 3 to Windows 7 desktop
Hello TBUDL, I am currently running my mail on Voyager 3.95.06 from a USB drive. I have a new desktop install of Windows 7 and I want to transfer all the data and account settings to the new desktop. I am planning to upgrade my key to V4.2 pro. What would be the best path to do this? -- Best regards, Scott mailto:scott...@gmx.net Using The Bat! 3.95.06 under Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 (0 days 13:54:56) on Uno Intel Pentium 4 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving DB and settings from Voyager 3 to Windows 7 desktop
Hello Scott, Monday, December 7, 2009, 2:57:15 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, I am currently running my mail on Voyager 3.95.06 from a USB drive. I have a new desktop install of Windows 7 and I want to transfer all the data and account settings to the new desktop. I am planning to upgrade my key to V4.2 pro. What would be the best path to do this? If I had to this I would make sure of a few things. Make and test out the backup so that you know before all your data is moved that the bat works... no idea how much data is involved but I know from personal experience that if you have to download as in my case again from google it takes a long time... Also I still have 50% still missing which was in voyager backup. Keep also in mind that if you go for latest OS the Voyager may need an update as well to make sure it can handle the latest files... Reminds me, google and the bat donot do a proper job on downloading again as dates on what comes in is totally adjusted to current time/date... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Crashes
Hello Ian, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 12:14:43 PM, you wrote: G'day Tim, On Monday, December 7, 2009, at 3:53:07 AM, you (Tim Hamm) wrote: On the sending of mail, do you have delayed sending enabled, but the alert dialog suppressed? TH I have immediate sending enables and not sure what you are referring TH to on the alert dialog suppresses. I have the mail ticker suppressed TH if that's what you mean. No. With delayed sending is enabled, you can get a dialog come up telling you when the message will actually be sent. You can turn this dialog off. It was a possibility that this dialog might have been turned off and so there was an apparently a delay. Under delivery type I have immediate and I have a check mark in Combined Delivery (send and receive). This problem of very slow sending and receiving has nothing to do with my smtp server or network congestion with the server. I have tested all three of my email clients, TB, Barca 2, and Outlook and TB wins the prize for taking the longest (and I mean more than 1 minute longer) to send and receive email. This problem started with version 4.1. If anyone has any ideas other than what has already been discussed, I would love to hear them. Thanks All, -- Best regards, Timmailto:timh...@cox.net Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Crashes
Hello Greg, sounds like you could have found the culprit as anti virus , antispam and antispyware acts in unpredictable ways with emails... Monday, December 7, 2009, 8:13:56 AM, you wrote: Hello Tim, On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:33:11 -0700 GMT(12/6/2009, 1:33 PM -0600 GMT), per mid:716668702.20091206123...@cox.net Tim Hamm wrote: TH Yes, except for the AntiSpamSniper I have for TB. Something unique to TB which maybe the culprit. :) Maybe another question to ask is- how many and which tools check your mail coming in? It really should in all cases be keept to the same set of emails so you can really compare them properly!! Ie, as you should be able to grab some emails which you know to be clean resend them and switch all checking off... Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Crashes
Hello tracer, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 7:27:19 PM, you wrote: Hello Greg, sounds like you could have found the culprit as anti virus , antispam and antispyware acts in unpredictable ways with emails... I am running Avira AntiVir Premium for my antivirus and the antispam is AntiSpamSniper for TB. I don't know why this would have any affect on my sending and receiving of emails. I have used AntiSpamSniper for years with no problems... I even uninstalled it and uninstalled Avira and there was no change in receiving and sending of emails. The delay was the same. Monday, December 7, 2009, 8:13:56 AM, you wrote: Hello Tim, On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:33:11 -0700 GMT(12/6/2009, 1:33 PM -0600 GMT), per mid:716668702.20091206123...@cox.net Tim Hamm wrote: TH Yes, except for the AntiSpamSniper I have for TB. Something unique to TB which maybe the culprit. :) Maybe another question to ask is- how many and which tools check your mail coming in? It really should in all cases be keept to the same set of emails so you can really compare them properly!! Ie, as you should be able to grab some emails which you know to be clean resend them and switch all checking off... I kept all mail on the server so each client was retrieving the same emails and this made no difference in TB. Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, Timmailto:timh...@cox.net Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Crashes
Hello Tim, Sunday, December 6, 2009, 9:33:11 PM, among other things, you wrote: TH I have tried re-installing TB twice now with the same results. I TH failed to mention before that even getting web pages from TB takes TH forever sometimes. This kind of variability can be due to server overloading or heavy traffic to the particular web address. i.e. nothing to do with TB. TH Again, I excluded the fact that this is related to server TH overloading... I ran my other two email clients with no issues TH what-so-ever. We were talking about SENDING mail, not receiving it! TH I'm referring to both sending and receiving. It is possible that subsidiary programmes may be slowing things down on the receiving side. Did all the mail clients have EXACTLY the same anti virus and anti spam programmes operating during your receiving tests? TH Yes, except for the AntiSpamSniper I have for TB. OK Tim, to find out if TB is really the culprit, and why, we need to repeat the comparative tests with all paramaters exactly the same with all three e-mail clients. I suggest therefore you try the download tests with all of the following in place: 1. Your anti virus programme turned off. 2. AntiSpamSniper and any other antispam programme turned off. 3. All message filtering turned off. 4. Any firewall programme turned off. To try to avoid any 'nasties' download first with your antvirus still operating, but 'leave messages on the server'. Then run your tests as quickly as possible thereafter with the antivirus turned off. If you will be kind enough to do as I suggest and let us all know the results we will then take it from there. Good luck! -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.13.4 ALPHA (Home) POP3 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
