How to View new messages two computers with TB! ?
So I have two computers. I have TB! on both. Both access the exact same IMAP Folder away on some remote server. On either instance of TB!, A filter examines the Inbox, then filters a message to one of several Common Folders. However, it seems that if one or the other computer is off, then any new messages will not appear on it. It seems the new messages went to the other computer. Furthermore it seems, that some messages get swept up by one computer and when the other checks, it doesn't get the aforementioned, previously collected emails, but it steals whatever is currently new. Make sense they way I wrote it? I previously thought IMAP stayed up on the servers and we drew frm it. That is unless I set the folders on the IMAP server to some limit in time/number-of, or some such. So is there a TB! setting I should attend to? Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folder Maint Error Returned 'Unlisted error FFFFFF85'
Folder , 0 broken messages reported, 0 messages recovered ERROR: Unlisted error FF85 the UNREAD count for that folder is -1 how do I correct this? Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] What's a .TBB file?
Hello St, Friday, December 12, 2014, 2:32:04, you wrote: snip. bat26DF looks like a temp file - where is this file located on your 'puter? In Temp? AppData\Roaming I think it might be a file that TB didn't delete after Maintenance. problems began AFTER a maint run a couple months ago. I might have written here and asked about it. Or not. Dunno. I lost some common-folders where I MOVE msgs after a Filter in the respective Inbox. One or two were significant losses since I store email msgs containing such msgs as those with purchased email program registration numbers .. .goes back several years. There is also an autobackup.$1 from 11/26/14 which is circa 583mb. There is an autobackup.tbk from 12/12/2014 of 80mb. I have backup set in TB ... however I regularly see a failure mentioning drive I:\, which does not exist on this computer and never has. I have an I:\ on a different home computer fwiw. TheBat_Exceptions.log contains, among other things, numerous errors mentioning Access Violations at different addresses in TheBat.exe. Read of address 0008 . As for winsxs: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2795190 did this again today and did it about 5 months ago. Same result, doesn't remove more that 5GB which eventually comes back. But thanks for the reminders. TB is installed on a 3TB external drive and run from there. Yet TB has a 6GB bunch of things in C:Users\User_Name\AppData\Roaming just sayin' ... Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What's a .TBB file?
been maxing out on my 65gb HDD; not convenient at present to buy a new one then xfr everything over. So I see this app/roaming/The Bat! file bat26DF.TBB 11/25/2014 weighing in at 3,941,835KB and wonder if I can read it with TB and see why I have it. then there's also the WIN7 winsxs weighing in at 10,977,094KB. But I've never figured out how to really sley that dragon. Reduced wht Win-7 web site suggests but that hardly makes a difference. But then, that's also not related to The Bat anyway. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strip Attachments in Forward ?
Hello MFPA, Sunday, October 19, 2014, 7:54:58 PM, you wrote: CTRL A to select all attachments doesn't work for me And I, clumsy at times, am highly disliking any Clicks, double or single as-well-as ctrl clicking things that are Trojans and Virii as attachments for obvious reasons. Thus I wanted it automated in a Template. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Strip Attachments in Forward ?
Hello MFPA, Friday, October 17, 2014, 2:39:09 PM, you wrote: I'm not aware of a macro to do this. And I don't think MyMacros or XMP add one either. thanks for reply! too bad ... it would be a nice feature to help not passing virus with email. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strip Attachments in Forward ?
I send Spam to Spamcop. Lately I have excessive Spam containing Trojans and Virus. I've decided it might be smarter to make sure I didn't ship the original attachment along with the original email. Is there a way to Template-Forward an email and strip the original Attachment that came with it? -- RD Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Strip Attachments in Forward ?
Hello St, Thursday, October 16, 2014, 10:39:58 AM, you wrote: SpamCop is now at end-of-life - aka. dead. Oy! I didn't know that. Thanks. Is there a useful alternative to the, now, ex-Spamcop? -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Strip Attachments in Forward ?
Hello St, Thursday, October 16, 2014, 12:00:13 PM, you wrote: is un-manned and no-one answers mail there anymore. And: If you need to renew your account - good luck - that's a 404. thanks again. Still, I would like to be able to strip attachments from a Fwd: outgoing email, in TB! -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Need serious help with upgrade to B-Pro 6.2.2
I had version 5.9 on one computer a 5.8 on the other. Bought (without the discount cuz I didn't see it available) 6.2 installed it on both Win7-64 bit computers. Now all email accounts think they are POP3 when they are , or were, IMAP4 . I can not D/L emails from 1and1 nor GMX. The fail message is related to TLS refuses ... and/or another version of failure is Disconnected. If I try to send an email, the message is not sent and the log show See log for details. That's funny an circular logic but does not help me guess what's wrong. If I try to make repairs to any email account, TB-Pro shows the email account as POP3 no matter what I try. Thus, the new versions seemed to have converted all accounts to POP3. So I was forced to delete all accounts and make new ones. At that point, I elected to not delete the files and folder. This as incorrect choice as TBP still made the new account POP3 and that was unchangeable as long as the previous files and folders where there. I had no choice but to delete them in order to be able to re-create IMAP4. AND, it seems then that all files containing the previous emails were destroyed. O how to I set up an imap4 for 1and1. How do I set up a POP3 for GMX? I have tried all variations of what each site publishes for Port numbers. They both claim SSL and there's no way I can see to make that choice in TBP. if I am able once again to get and send email, what is the way to re-introduce any Restored Versions of past folders from all the email accounts? I have been using TB for over ten ears. This us the one and only time an upgrade has brought my systems to a standstill. I will guess that the root of the problem is mine. But I can't for the life of me guess where I messed up two computers on one upgrade. -- Regards, Robert Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Troubles with Christmas Addition
I uninstalled 5.4 and then installed 6.1.8.0 (after purchasing) I have so many issues, mostly with imap, that I can't recall them well. I have messages in the inbox's that refuse to go away after deletion. This even though the settings all indicate to move-to-trash. If i do a delete, say in the Inbox, The message list shows it is gone but the account list still shows an unread message. Anything which might invoke imap folder maintenance will stall and I must cancel the task; sometimes mans kill the program in task manager. I am running 5.4 on this computer. The settings appear to be the same as those pn the Christmas version. That one is pn the other computer. I am writing from the 5.4, I believe, as it's too much trouble to work in the 6.1 version. O'd guess this is all a factor of my-bad. It's just that I can discover what is set wrong. Recap: Ver 5.4 on one computer works fine and upgraded (after un-install) of 6.1.8 on the other computer seems to have many issues with Imap through the imap.1and1.com servers. -- RD Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
That Spell Checker
what can I do? takling brings up, amongst other choices EXCEPT for talking: My last name; balun; along; asking; duckling; tabling; taking, and so forth SSCE seems selected with Case, typo , select check-marked I just had the issue with 'takling' .. but this happens in nearly every single typographical error I make .. my name is always there as well as other silly guesses. Many times, as with this example, the actual US word is not to be seen. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello Stuart, Thursday, December 19, 2013, 1:50:30 PM, you wrote: Hmm, typing takling here brings up exactly what you would expect. talking taking tackling I have English/American selected. I see talking in mine now but the list of absurd words, like my last name, is still tehre. is yours SSCE or hunspell? -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: That Spell Checker
Hello Scuddy, Thursday, December 19, 2013, 2:55:28 PM, you wrote: I think SSCE because all my Hunspell options are greyed out. OK, same here. Then when 'suggestions' do come up for you, are there ancillary, even whimsical suggestions? What I men is I can't come up with a reason for many, of about 15 which appear. just wondered if there was another setting or config I'd botched to allow for trivial results too. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to set a PGP key to encrypt to recipient in TB! ?
Hello MFPA, Sunday, December 1, 2013, 7:36:05 AM, you wrote: Since you used the abbreviation TB (without an exclamation mark) I have to ask if you were thinking of Thunderbird, where the Enigmail add-on does provide such a setting (per-recipient rules). mensch-meier .. ur right! I used TB! back in the two's; had some wrangle for a while with constant crashing and switched to TB (bird + enigmail) and THAT may have been where I saw that ability. Hoever, ur workaround is more than functional ... and no, I am not presented with a selection choice when the email address has multi-keys in the key-manager .. I used to write to Melissa when such a foible met me ... 'how to get prompted by TB!' ? thanks a bunch for the reminders. I'll run thru the list and disable such and such keys. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to set a PGP key to encrypt to recipient in TB! ?
It seems that way back when, using early TB, I could set a certain openpgp key to be used per a particular recipient, ahead of time .. like in a New Message template in the AB ??? I can't recall. An help on this? For example, I have a friend who has a few Public keys, here in the keyring. I only want to use certain one. I'd like the $SIGNCOMPLETE to make use of my preferences. -- regards from RD Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unable to see folders with Manage IMAP Folders
of 4 IMAP accounts I use, two of them will not show the folders when I use the IMAP Folder Manager. wo will They are all with 1and1. They are all IMAP and should have exactly the same settings. They do in fact appear to be set up the same way when I look in Account Settings/Mail Transport What would cause me to not see the imap folders on those two accounts? Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Encryption concerns
Hello Mike, Monday, September 9, 2013, 10:57:59 AM, you wrote: It must be clear by now the that US National Security Agency--as well as the comparable security agencies in every other civilized country in the world--can break all encryption codes and most likely were involved in setting up the encryption codes in the first place. I would have to see a list of articles verifying that claim. Remember, for one example, that 'Snowden' was using some form of email encryption. I use OpenPGP with The Bat!, thus an RSA4096 subset, and seriously doubt that, given they didn't get my pass-phrase, they could break it in a 100 years or less with distributed computing even. As for being in on the development, it's open source code, available to all of us to verify no back doors. Current German Tech News Moments are saying, in their talking-points, that people should begin using GPG4win and other OpenPGP . -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Always need to use Move to Next Unread while in Threads
It seems that when somebody, later, replies into a previously established Thread, I will see that the Folder will be Bold, meaning there is an unread email. The Thread itself will be in Bold characters meaning that the thread has an unread message in the thread itself. Yet, when I look, I see no new threads either byCreated nor an actual new message in the line. But, in the thread, if I select Move to Next Unread, I land on the new message and it is visible to me. Note, this is not ALWAYS the case. For example, tight here in TBUDL, there is a reply to the Scary message thread. Upon expanding that thread, I see the unread message. However, it happens elsewhere on a daily basis. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters don't work in one Email Account
I have one email account where, at start-up, no filters work.When I run re-filter on that account, every email, usually dozens, will correctly filter to the common folders I use for all other email accounts. Whereas , all the other email accounts I have will filter when I open The Bat! ... I believe I have compared the rules and settings for the troublesome account against the good accounts. I believe they appear to be the same. I must be wrong. So anybody have any ideas I can pursue to clear this up? Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters don't work in one Email Account
Hello MFPA, Monday, June 24, 2013, 2:21:06 PM, you wrote: If you have separate filters for each account, I can't suggest anything. Yup ! A few email accounts have collected. Whatever Lists of interest to which I was subscribed, stayed with the respective Email Account. I move Inbox emails to whatever Hobby-List Common folder that applies. It works splendidly well except for one account. And that one didn't always have the problem. And ... a couple others did and they magically cleared up. Needles to say, this has been going on many, many months and is downright annoying. Maintenance does not work. Go Figure. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to Restore a Backup
Hello Roger, Thursday, June 6, 2013, 12:31:36 AM, you wrote: It should work. Can you tell us exactly, in detail, what you did? I am on B: PC Win-7 64-bit. Both computers have normal updates (AUTO). Both run same version of TB! On B, Tools/Backup...all of it ... to Network Dive (Note: I tried Desktop , a folder, other computer, etc) On A PC. Restore/ADD: the network TB Folder, dbl-click on the current TB-Backup / ll is Checked except let-me-choose OK Accounts to process: Common 7 email Acts. . Inexplicably it worked! Previous to this attempt, I had attempted this same method about 5 or 6 times. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unread Message which has been
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 9:04:10 PM, you wrote: What TB version are you using, and are you using POP or IMAP? 5.3.8 IMAP My filters look for criteria: then they move to a respective common folder if that's any help -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unread Message which has been
I have a couple of email accounts where I see a message, in a thread, that is bold, indicating it is a new message. When I look at it, I have already seen it before. There are no more in the thread. There is no + sign to expand. Now I know to right-click and select to got to next unread message. After I select that choice I am in the next message and there is one below the one I was just reading (the one that was bold and already had been received and read). Make sense to anyone? Am I clear what I am writing? This happens a lot. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: occasional filter failures + missing data
Hello Thomas, Avram, Monday, October 29, 2012, 9:57:10 PM, you wrote: AS However, within the past 5-6 months, I have observed that a small AS number of messages for those accounts do not get filtered TF While I have not experienced this myself, I have heard about it. For TF some of the 4.x versions. In fact, this appears to be solved in later TF versions, I have not heard anybody complain about this when using a TF 5.x version. FWIW, I am using 5.2 and, as of this morning's imap mail login. I ended up with 65 New messages from one of my 5 active accounts remaining in the Inbox. I highlighted the Inbox and selected to Re-Filter. Then all were filtered into their respective Common folders. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: occasional filter failures + missing data
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 11:16:57 AM, you wrote: Hello Robert, OK, so this is about IMAP. I didn't see that in the OP. Different animal, I am not using IMAP, so cannot comment. oh, I really don't know if it is, or isn't. I was thinking it was more about Filters. But maybe it's an IMAP thing. We need an RIT Programmer and a large bottle Vodka so we can find the answer after we talk/drink about it. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox Filter on IMAP Acct inconsistent
Hello Peter, Monday, October 29, 2012, 2:57:59 PM, you wrote: Robert, When I highlight the particular account's Inbox and right-click and choose to Re-Filter, all the evil miscreant messages are moved... Wait for a fix like the rest of us have been doing for a couple of years. something's fishy in Denmark ... I have always wanted to find a context in which I could say that line. Gee, thanks Peter!! Although maybe you've never heard it spoken. Then it isn't very funny. And, frankly, despite the Filter problem stinking, I have no idea who first said it, nor where it was said. Melissa is my go-to-person for such technical structural grammatik questions. So the upshot is, this is a subtly known problem. That helps my mind anyway. Today I clicked on a message which refused to, first-time-filter, and create filter ... I named the filter zb, LGD-1, telling me it was the second time I have tried to filter Messages there. So, knock on wood, the two miscreant Folders, their respective filters from the same account's email-inbox, are, so far, being filtered. Oddly, each (-1) filter created by TB is, word-for-word the same as the one I had previously concocted. Now I don't know which Filter, the newly created ((-1) or the firmer, is tripping the Filter. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Inbox Filter on IMAP Acct inconsistent
I still have the same problem with my Inbox Filter, on one of 5, IMAP Accts being rather inconsistent about filtering the incoming messages and moving them to a Common-Folder. Of the other IMAP accounts, these filters are seemingly the same. A message comes into myn...@mydomain.net; gets compared to address-groups then moved to one of a few Common Folders. This works for the mydomai...@mydomain.net as-well-as mydomai...@mydomain.net. Furthermore, the same incoming comparisons works (also IMAP) for myn...@their-domain.net on two other accts. When I highlight the particular account's Inbox and right-click and choose to Re-Filter, all the evil miscreant messages are moved to their respective Sorted-Folder. Go Figure. Anyone have a viable solution? -- RD Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox Filter on IMAP Acct inconsistent
Hello Rick, Friday, October 26, 2012, 9:01:43 AM, you wrote: I have had that on rare occasions, but can't reproduce it at will. I can't help on that other than to suggest seeing what happens if you rearrange the order of the filters Sure. I can try that. I've certainly tried many other things and can't, so far, stop it. The Gripe is that running Re Filter works every time. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Inbox Filter works sometimes
This is very, very annoying. One of my three accounts refuses to filter All of the messages which come in. Some are left in the Inbox until I select Folder/Re-Filter . Then the remaining move to respective common folders. I ee no common fault in the construction of each of ten filters in the affected Account. I use the same three or four filters in many, many other Inbox filters. For example IF Header-Field has X-Original-To = to TBUDL then move to common folder Bat ... just for-example My point is thse filters work sometimes and other times they fail until a re-filter. No filters contain Continue On ... . All are set for Inbox Using Ver 5.2 -- Bob D. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: occasional filter failures + missing data
Hello Avram, Saturday, October 20, 2012, 10:58:22 PM, you wrote: I have observed that a small number of messages for those accounts do not get filtered with each mail download and remain in an account's inbox until I use the re-filter tool to properly distribute those messages. Yes! Thanks for writing about that. I hope there is an answer. I have one, of three, account, all of which are different accounts of my own domain. One of those consistently leaves some messages in INBOX until I re-filter, w/o having made changes to the existing Filters. Confounds me. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message List expansion while scrolling through
Hello Rick, Thursday, October 18, 2012, 10:44:20 AM, you wrote: Go to Options / Preferences / Other Options and Hints then disable the ones you want gone or disable them totally wunderbar! wow .. and I never-ever looked in that position of the Preferences and usually, I have found, Other is totally esoteric stuff N/A to me at all. Kewl! really fixed and not annoying me enahmore. Thomas: see if your Options/Hints area ALL activated like mine were. THEN tell me if you get angry with the Screen as I did. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message List expansion while scrolling through
Hello TBUDL, I hope I have the terms/layout-terms correct. The screen-layout I use is to have Tree vertically on left. On right I have, on top, the message-list which goes with whichever Folder is high-lighted in the Tree. Then, also on the right, under the message-list, is whichever message that is highlighted above in the message-list. So, I begin by touching a message in the message list. I may hesitate on that line a moment to see something. So, if I hover on the message-list too long, first a small pop-up appears with Text from the selected(hover)message in message-list. If I wait further then the entire message is displayed and obscures the message-list where I was desiring to read the line shown in the message-list (name/date/subject). If I really wanted to read some of it, I just press to stick the cursor on that message-list-line and I therefore can read the message below. Since I am all plain-text, I am not so concerned about HTML-Trojans and evil things rearing their heads. So, my question then is how do I stop TB from doing the message-text pop-up from a scroll/hover on the message-list pane? thanks -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Large Sizes of *.TBB files
Hello TBUDL, I was wondering if I am able to Trim the sizes of the various *.TBB files I have? My puny hard-drive has one TBB which is a few hundred gigabytes.\\ -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Large Sizes of *.TBB files
Hello Mark, Thursday, September 27, 2012, 9:30:36 AM, you wrote: Well, it might help if you would send every message only once! :-) Over to others for more helpful answers. (Did you purge and compact?) Yes. And _that_ is/was my next seemingly unsolvable problem with how I set up TB this time. Dare I ask it in this thread or start another? I'll start another and I did purge/compact -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorry about several Duplicate postings: settings problem in TB
Hello TBUDL, I believe it has to do something with how I re-map the imap folders to TB. Account Properties/ Mail Management/ then Outbox and a pulldown, or write-in, on the right of that. 'For pre-defined mailboxes use these ... Outbox ... ??? So, on the iMap server, I have 'Sent objects' ; Drafts; Trash; Spam Inside TB I see 'Outbox'; Sent Mail; Trash what is the relationship? As an aside, when I look at the Account Listing of some email accounts I have, I see a large list of folders both in TB and up on the iMap server(s). I just unchecked any settings in the aforementioned Account preferences. Hopefully this has fixed the problem for the time being. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox-Known
Generally, [EMAIL PROTECTED] foretold : z How can I get the Inbox-Known to ignor the Reading Confirmation z Request? I believe you can set it in Properties of Inbox-Known : Templates | Over-ride | Ignore -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (Selective) Selective Download Filter
It is said that Martin Schuster concocted the following rebuttal : ' M Hello Robert, Martin Schuster waved a wand then said : ' M hehe, did I? ;-) indeed, you did, then the message turned to a frog. M An example maybe says more: I have a selective download filter M Subject contains any of [some typical spam words] with action M kill. yes. OK. I made a test; subject contains xyzzy then KILL. but, this is seemingly useless in that the offending message remains on server (forever) also noted, as said before, the statistics tab never indicates if the filter was tried. All remains a zero. I was able to see that (using dispatcher window) that the Read became unchecked. And as I said, that particular test message is still on my server having been neither D/L'd not deleted by the dispatcher. So, in any case, I still have to manually deal with a server-side message that I do not want not like. And, I still can not select for a gross size and delete them. I see, on my server right now, ten or eleven half-meg fido pictures from nice people who can not slenderize their mega-pixel shots of their lovable dogs . then ship them as attachments to a list I am (was) on. So, IMHO , Selective Download is pointless in that she has no teeth and can only wave noodles at server-side emails rather than a fully charged Wand backed by a book with excellent spells therein. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (Selective) Selective Download Filter
Martin Schuster waved a wand then said : ' M Try activating the dispatcher:\ I put a nonsense filter under the Selective Download tab. It looks to see if qwerty is in the Sender position. When I hit shift-ctrl-F2, I see the *Read* is still checked. I also never see Statistics Tab *Tested* going above Zero. That, according to you, means the selective download filter is never checked/activated -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter on Message Size
It is said that Chris concocted the following rebuttal : ' C Feature request? Yes. Indeed! I'll try it. Although, after the last one I did; and then reading several comments about the lack of action ON Feature Request, it might be like p*ing in the wind. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter on Message Size
Thomas Fernandez waved a wand then said : ' T I use Receive headers only if message size is greater than 100KB T in Account / Properties / Mail Management Hi ... I suppose, that I should have made a reference to that option in my first post. You see, I already have that checked for sizes over 50k on emails. I would prefer to narrow THAT option down to some specific criteria and have the filter choose to trash or send to me. I get tired of the lack of automation available to that particular List to which I (did) belong. It's become tedious to see twenty of those [Large Message] emails. TB! is all about clever automation, templates, Sorting Office Filters and the like. Anyway, lacking the ability in TB!, I unsubscribed from the otherwise enjoyable list. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter on Message Size
It is said that Roelof Otten concocted the following rebuttal : ' R The sorting office has a 'message size' condition, did you try R that? Yes it does. However, that choice never appears when constructing a filter within the pseudo-account called 'Selective Download'. Rather a considerable downsized list of selections occupies the pop-up as seen in the jpeg hopefully attached to this reply -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter on Message Size
It is said that Robert D. concocted the following rebuttal : ' R Rather a considerable downsized list of selections occupies the R pop-up as seen in the jpeg hopefully attached to this reply which I see did not so look here at it: http://www.denstarfarm.us/Public/bats.jpg -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter on Message Size
Recently, Roelof Otten squawked : ' R In that case you're out of luck. Pity that. It seems to me that since they knew how to read the message size and incorporated that in other Sorting Office Filters, that they could have just as easily placed the same Size filter in the selective download. In fact, personally, it makes more sense to use it BEFORE one has to download ten 512mb Fido pictures not after the fact. What is the pragmatic use of filtering on message size when you have already wasted the bandwidth/time to fetch it? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter on Message Size
Does anyone know of a way to filter inbound messages based on the size of the message? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(Selective) Selective Download Filter
I would like to run the mail dispatcher and {IF} it sees mail from a
certain list {AND} the mail size is over 30k {THEN} delete it {ELSE}
download the email in this account's Inbox on the server.
I can't seem to find a way to do that; no references to Size;
seemingly no way to make a filter under the 'Selective Download' name
in the account's tree.
There's this one list where gabby dog people send 500k pictures of
Fido. Some do it, certainly not all, but it's driving me nutso and I'd
like to automatically KILL it if it's that large.
--
Regards,
Robert D.
:flag-us-ky:
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Re: (Selective) Selective Download Filter
It is said that Thomas Fernandez concocted the following rebuttal : ' T That's not the despatcher's job; Selective Download filters do T that. Well, Thomas, I figured since I use the dispatcher to see a message TB! tells me is over the size to download that TB! knows the size and thus can also filter on the size. See below ... I mixed the two T Why not? Main menu: Account / Sorting Office / Selective Download. T What do you see there? OK ... I see it ... I was kind of mixing Mail Dispatcher and Selective Download into the same bag. Wrong on my part ... However, I still see I can not make a criteria the Size of the intended message to filter. nez pas? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (Selective) Selective Download Filter
Recently, Thomas Fernandez squawked : ' T Why not? Main menu: Account / Sorting Office / Selective Download. T What do you see there? Also, now that I am playing around trying to make a Selective DL Filter ... just how does one invoke Selective Download so that one may verify operation of S-D/L filters? I tried Alt Shift and Ctrl D/L but don't really have an indication if the Selective DL filter is firing ,,, in that the statistics tab on said Selective D/L Filter still shows zero/Zed -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.06 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to move folder from one account to another
You were there when Perry Nelson lectured : ' P Hi TBUDL, P I am closing out an account in which I have a number of folders. P I'd like to move those folders into another account I am seeing a move out selection also on my menus as I right-click any particular accounts name. I see move in move out Move up move down So, isn't it possible to move it out then place below the desired new account by either move-up or move-down. Then do a move-in and Voilla, there it is. I just tested this on a single account. Now, that said. it's slow and tedious. I used to change the name of the old folder, using Windows Explorer, to what the new account name is and it showed up in TB! correctly. However, I tried that last week with this 3.80 version and got the system so screwed up I had to revert to a previous edition as well as do a system restore. I am therefore reluctant to try that again. It was, though, infinitely more efficient than the only apparent method TB! will tolerate. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to move folder from one account to another
Perry Nelson waved a wand then said : ' P Not here, unless I am doing something wrong somehow. Moving the P folder out does nothing since it isn't a sub folder of another P folder agreed. However. In my case (the test case) I have a folder called Sheep, inside and account, which I will call Lists. Lists has it's own settings for where to access mail and so forth. I also have, among many others, an account to handle my GMail stuff and its own settings. With that in mind, I right click the Sheep folder inside Lists and select 'Move Out'. Sheep folder appears out at the hierarchical level of Account Lists and GMail now. Next I right-click and select 'Move Down'. Sheep Folder is now underneath GMail account AND pictured above Account GMX. Then I right-click Sheep Folder and select 'Move Up'. Voilla!! Sheep Folder is now a constituent of the GMail Account. QED Note now to MAU and you, I can not Alt anything and get it to drag. I can not perform any combinations of Ctrl or Alt or others while trying to drag any folder. The folder gets highlighted and that's as far as she goes. No drag. No movement. No International Sign for the Holy Grail. No nuttin'. But I can re-locate folders the slow way as described above. An unfortunately, for some odd reason, we agree you cannot. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to move folder from one account to another
Perry Nelson waved a wand then said : ' P Ever optimistic, I've downloaded 3.80.06, ... I will pass along this *other* method I'd been using until about this release. But know this, I tried it in this release the other day and totally got TB! so messed up I had to sys-restore and then TB! still wouldn't work, in this version. So I revived one version from Christmas time and that worked fine ... then after several hours, oddly enough, I could, again, use THIS version ... go figure ... So, that said, I use Win Explorer and look in TB's MAIL directory on the drive. I see the Folder with the current sub-folders reflecting the different filtered-places that get filled as I check the email FROM that account. And that's the one I want to port to another new account. I rename that main folder, that lies directly underneath MAIL, to the new name of the new account. Then I go into TB! and create that new account answering all the questions. But I see that they are already filled in because they sucked up data from the heretofore renamed olde account ... and when it's finished, there's the newly named/created TB! account with all the old folders from the other account. I just tried THAT and it worked here! Go figure. How I got myself in trouble last week I do not know. But I *think* I renamed a TB! account to the olde folder's name ... anyway, give that a try -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Help
I went around this a couple weeks ago and have been playing with the suggestions since then. They do not work. Given: Spam Filter imbedded in Firewall/AV/Spam commercial software detects what it thinks is spam and adds an 'X-found-spam' to the headers. Mailing Lists can set the To: field to either your personal email address or to the Group List email address The From address can be the original poster or the List address There is usually a Reply To containing the List address or the Reply-to is at least the original sender if not a list. The tag of 'spam' could be a false positive IF you already know the sender Problem: Without the ability to check the header field 'Reply-To' matching it to a known AB entry I can not isolate the tagged email as truly spam. Because: AB Contains Sender could be unknown user of known email list AB Contains First Recipient Spammer sends spam-email straight to ME. I am in AB as known Reply-To can not contain my email address FROM the Spammer (usually) The filtered email, containing the X-Header with the word spam is then either truly tagged as spam and handled by THAT filter or it is handled by the False-Positive action and forwards to the software programmers out of courtesy so they can adjust their software accordingly. Help please. Or admit we need to be able to examine AB against Reply-To field and it's variants. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Thomas Fernandez waved a wand then said : ' TF Header field Reply-To contains that's as we say here, 'The Rub' Reply-To contains : An Address Group (((Lists in my case)) IS in ANY friendly AB would be OK IS on a whitelist would be OK But, as implemented by TB! can only compare to a single entity. Highly impractical. I could see 70 to 100 OR statements. Heaven help me if I had to go through and see IF I had added one or the other. AN email header contains an X-flag if the sender is friendly and known then the X-Flag is wrong Or, in the case of Lists (typical) if the Reply-To IS the friendly address Then the X-Flag is False Otherwise trash the message as it is truly spam List they use that Reply-To THAT's the Rub. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering issues.
Who would have guessed that Simon would have said : S Do you not have something like this show when a message is received S and a filter fires -: Ummm, I have Verbose Log checked yet do NOT see where/when/how a Fetched message is processed. For example, just now: 5/1/2006, 08:50:53: FETCH - Received message from [EMAIL PROTECTED], and my addy to [EMAIL PROTECTED], encrypted: No, size: 4018, date: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:46:55 AM, subject: Re: Statistics for tbot: april 2006 How do I activate further reporting then? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Need a Virtual Folder Filter
I've lost my VF Filter that looked in Header Field 'References:' to see if the particular message was in reference to something I had posted. Presently, I cannot see how to make a VF Filter for that because looking at 'Filter' from 'Properties' OF the particular filter does not produce the choice for 'Header Field'. Whereas, Looking at filters in a regular account does produce that available choice. The VF I have 'Replies-to-Me' lies in the über-Accounts, or Global, or whatever we want to call it. I want Incoming, unread traffic filtered to see if it's a thread I'm in then mirrored obviously in the VF. I previously got help on this from ya'all but recently lost it while re-loading various previous versions and then reverting back to this current Beta. Thanks -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need a Virtual Folder Filter
Recently, Alexander S. Kunz squawked : In the VF I filter for that color group. OK Alexander. I made a color group and , via this reply to you, am testing to see if it works ... drumming fingertips on desk, waiting to see... :bat-drumming: - there isn't one -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need a Virtual Folder Filter
We know that Alexander S. Kunz fervently re-stated In the VF I filter for that color group. Bingo! -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unable to control View Mode
Generally, Stuart Cuddy foretold : Under View/Global View Mode is it set to None. OK, I am beginning to get a more narrow handle on this: If View | Global View Mode -- Is Set To anything other than ' No View Mode' then: All attempts to change Any folder's view mode FAIL I noticed as I put cursor on message list columns and RMB and I see that the CORRECT 'View Mode' IS selected already. However, what displays is actually what has been previously set under 'Global View Mode' . And one may not modify that. This may be intended merely to befuddle idiots like me. Rather elaborate though, it is. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug in 3.80.03
Recently, John Phillips squawked : No place to enter number of messages to keep, or number of days to keep them. Not confirmed in my WinME. RMB on Folder Name then Properties brings up window with usual two Q's about # and how long -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder property bug in 3.80.03
It is said that John Phillips concocted the following rebuttal : 1024 x 768 I have switched to 1280 x 1024 and still see #of days OK then down to 800 something and OK then back to 1024x768 -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.80.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unable to control View Mode
I am writing this to the general users area becasue I have reverted all the way back to 3 63 08 to try and find why my View Mode is gone. No selection in any Manage-View-Mode named View will actually make any folder THAT described view. Period. Yet, in Manage View Modes, I see all the correctly described created Views I made. If I go to any message list folder and select a new view mode, nothing happens. If I create a new view mode and store it under any of the previous named views, then ALL folders become that view mode. This sucks big time. So, Bat users, where in the Bat folder can I delete something and rebuild it to regain useablilty of View modes, which I HAD until version 3.80. Yet I have reverted all the way back to this one and not been able to implement View Mode. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.63.08 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Immediate Sending but Secretly, behind my back
Who would have guessed that WL would have said : Is it possible that the ``small Explorer Window'' is actually the confirmation window? no. actually it was a down-sized exploring folders window; folders showing and such ... I have seen it many times and ALWAYS am deep in the compose and reply mental-mode and hastily dispatch the miscreant due to losing focus in the email I was previously typing in. I will, hopefully, be able to curb my instincts to rapidly close that window next time and thus see what the subject of it is ... or read the top-bar and see who he thinks he is anyway ... -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.12 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
An InBox Filter for ReplyTo in AB
If my antispam reader misidentifies a TBUDL email as spam, then I need an additional filter pragma . So, I want to compare the reply-to: and see if THAT is in my Good-Guys AB group. And this is so on many Mailing Lists. In our example the Sender is the actual sender, so you can't possibly know every single List member. The recipient(s) is, at least, me ... and I am in the AB but spammer's send to me also, so I can't compare against my own entry. But the Reply-To is a dead giveaway, in the case of (these) Lists. I see no way to so it however. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.73 Release Candidate 1 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An InBox Filter for ReplyTo in AB
We know that Roelof Otten fervently re-stated : What you can do is place your mailing list filters, that act upon the Reply-To header, before your spam filter. Ahhh / I had it that way to begin with Roelof. But the deal is that TrendMicro anti-spam filtering adds Spam: to the subject line. And there is also a X-header line. IF is is a False-Positve, then I must forward it plus headers to one address at TrendMicro Team for analysis. TB! is perfect for this except If I do this then I want the message to be in its CORRECT Folder so I can continue reading the emails of that group. And I don't (didn't) want to write trillions of individual filters ... some email lists have the sender as the list. Other email lists have the LIST as the sender. Some have the TO: as the List while others have ME as the TO: Again, TB! is perfect for this ... unless you want to compare the Reply-To against your address book. Sounds like a simple line of code to add but then, it's truly less important than some other problems and wishes I guess. Thus, I asked on TBUDL in case some clever person has done this over a line of 15 email lists. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.73 Release Candidate 1 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An InBox Filter for ReplyTo in AB
You were there when I lectured : Again, TB! is perfect for this ... unless you want to compare the Reply-To against your address book. OK ... answering my humble self. Check if Anti-Spam flagged message. IF it did, Change colour-code create message to False-Positive People Continue Process At Each Folder, it will eventually drop out and into Folder At end, if it didn't drop into genuine List Folder and it has Spam in subject and the X-header line, then it is spam and forward it to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] for their library and Trash it/mark read/delete Simpler was the Reply-To: maybe. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.73 Release Candidate 1 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Immediate Sending but Secretly, behind my back
I was just writing a email in reply to a friend. It was a long reply. I type clumsily and can hit various combo's I think. A screen came up, perhaps a small Explorer Window ... dunno, but I dismissed it and went back to punching keys. I have this account set to Confirm Immediate Sending for exactly this problem ... anyway, I see now that 5 minutes ago a partial reply was sent AS i was composing the email-reply . not good. what combo of keys can I hit causing immediate sending? Where can I turn this OFF !! Why doesn't my TB! obey the Confirm B4 Send demand I make? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.12 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Immediate Sending but Secretly, behind my back
Recently, Alexander S. Kunz opined : Shift + Return would be my first guess. I love this keycombo. :-) I tried that and get nothing but ctrl-enter brings up the confirmation pop-up Where can I turn this OFF !! No idea, perhaps in the customizer? can't find it ... be more specific? ! -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.12 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] inserted in subject line
Recently, Roelof Otten opined : Do all of your contacts complain about this? I agree with Alex K on this one namely the X-Header ... Some ISP spam filtering, for some strange reason, occasionally tags TB! sent emails as some IF they are including the Preferences|General Use X-Mailer Header option -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.11 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering on First Recip
Recently, Thomas Fernandez opined : Does that mean you have multiple entries of this email address, just with different first names? I searched and there was only one in any/all groups/AB .. just the one the filter rule was set to continue processing other rules anyway, I re-wrote the filter and had it make decision in one step/rule and now it works -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.10 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering on First Recip
I use a firewall which inspects incoming email. If it meets some criteria it adds the term spam: the the first part of the subject line. I can filter on that But ... I am a beta tester of their product and, on occasion, the thing mis-tags a good email The latest one being from Goncalo Farias [EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBBETA ... Now then I have a filter that looks for the first word being spam: then colour-code the message to my designated colour for spam and continue filtering because it may turn out to NOT be spam and if so I need to bundle it off to the programmers so they can tweak their settings. Otherwise, if it runs the gambit and IS spam, I bundle it to the FTC site where they wave toilet paper at it. There is a second-from-the-last filter which asks is message colour-coded spam? AND is first recipient in MY Lists address-group? YES? format to the programmers the last filter formats to the FTC now then, Goncalo's email, you may see in TBBETA has as first recip Robert D. tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com that would be ME my Lists group in the AB has TBBETA@thebat.dutaint.com and a first name of TBBETA the filter ALWAYS fails this one rule and moves on but does not send to FTC either because it fails that one too by virtue of really belonging to the friends group and not the spams group. Why does the filter miss the fact that the first recipient is in the AB-group Lists And I want more choices from which to select ... you all recognize that List traffic has often strange to and reply-to stuff, right? It ain't regular, me-to-you, type email headers and they all ain't the same are not the same, if you area an English grammar freak. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.10 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MicroEd vs Plain text
Who would have guessed that Curtis would have said : Consider a widescreen format display ... 17. full height account tree layout show the message list nicely with a few informative columns The preview window is below the message list pane, nice and wide All as above. Though I agree with Wakeford that after about 72ish chars, my eyes just beg for a wrap so they don't begin to skip lines as I move to the right. If one (sort of) speed reads, the angle difference from 70(ish) to 140-160 means that, at the latter, I'd have to keep moving my head/eyes to clasp the groups. At 60-70, once can scan vertically quite comfortably. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.04 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply-To problem
I wish to have the reply-to field blank. If that's not possible, I want it set, in a specific folder for an email list, to be the email list address. No matter what I've tried, in the specific list's folder, the reply to, upon checking again, has reverted to the From information. And the reason I wish this would be that there is a certain list I am on that sends List replies to me rather than the mentioned list. They can't fix that problem so I am trying to do the make-shift repairs on my end. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.04 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply-To problem
Recently, MAU opined : Have you set the Reply-To in the Identity of the folder properties? Yes, I did but it **seemed** to ALWAYS track what the Account's Reply-To was. As it turn out, I copied what Mica just suggested and oddly it worked this time. For, that was what I thought I was trying and every single time, all I had in the reply was my account's Reply-To *** inserted *** .If I removed the Reply-To ///blanked it out/// in the ACCOUNT portion, then all was OK in the individual Email-List Folder. Alas, quite clearly I was erring somehow because it now works. Thanks to thee and Mica -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.04 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply-To problem
Thomas Fernandez waved a wand then said : In fact, they should be blank by default. OK ... I shall ... but could you enlighten me as to why it should be blank? Hm. On all lists I post, the list software will overwrite dunno laddie , however, there are a couple of them, one being: Analog-Help analog-help@lists.meer.net where this ALWAYS happens to me. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.04 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply-To problem
Who would have guessed that Thomas Fernandez would have said : Account / Properties / General. Take the entries at Reply-To Information out. In fact, they should be blank by default. Actually, I remember now. A couple of years ago, there was a list to which I belonged, that categorically refused to allow my emails through the inbound filters if it didn't see a valid reply-to . And thus, I went and added it up in the accounts. QED -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.04 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ignoring URL's whilst Spellchecking
Recently, Paul Meathrel opined : .http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4824642.stm . the Spellchecker will pick up on: http, bbc, uk, europe and stm as Not confirmed. I agree with Richard, a thread down. the link, which I put a dot and not a near . is not caught. the words spellchecker http, and so on, are. I use the personal, home, addition -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.72.04 (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scan to Email using TB!
I bought a new Scanner/FAX/Printer/Copier/Dishwasher ... admittedly, it isn't anywhere the top line, rather middle ground. A *Brother 640*. One can designate which Email program the scanned attachment goes to. I tried Outlook Express. An email was generated, I assigned an address and sent it. I then tried TB!. A plain-text email was generated. There was no attachment. Are there any secret settings in TB! that I need to know about which will allow the generation of an Email WITH an attachment passed to it? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.08 Qigong (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Properties-Window Annoyance
Recently, Thomas Fernandez squawked : I don't know whether there is a wishlist entry for this. If you create one, I will support it. Actually, I was just logged in to the Issue-Tracker site. I used the pull-down to go to Wishes ... but no where do I see a way to add a *Wish* the _Report Issue_ path seems to be for repeatable verifiable Bugs, not wishes ... -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail Ticker use from a VF
I seem to be unable to select a VF for inclusion in what activates Mail Ticker. I have a VF, located under TheBat! folder, which gets messages in reply to something I wrote. I would like the Mail Ticker to be activated if one lands in my CF VF. If I can't do that, can I make a wish entry and would anyone else like that? Given, that is, that the poor, over-worked flying-rodent-real-time-Lisp-programmers in the forest of Moldavia ever get time. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Properties-Window Annoyance
I was just trying to respond to Villi's email about Bug: Account, Properties, Transport, SMTP, Authentication... this required me to be reading his email, for the directions to follow AND it required me to have the focus inside the Gmail Properties Box in THAT account of TB! Now, this does not seem to be possible Because once one brings up the properties box, one can NOT get out of that window and bring another to the front to be able to read farther on. I had to print out Villi's email to be able to follow the directions to conform a TB! beta bug ... Now his message is on paper. If I forget to shred it, one of my horses will get it then absolutely add the email to a horse-spam list. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.07 Qigong (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Trouble with Connection Centre
From time to time, as right now, CC hangs up when ostensibly trying to check mail on one email account. The one it is hung on currently is GMX and is **usually** this one too. I can not _Delete Task_ . I can not _Abort All_. I must bring up the task manager and Kill TB! Poor Fledermaus !! Is this something that happens to others more specifically on certain Mail Servers? Does this happen regularly to many Fledermaüsers wondering if that is a real word or I made it up? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Recently, Roelof Otten squawked : I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, not sure it's, as such, bandwidth. That is to say, _when_ I see it fail, as it is now for 1.6 hours according to the CC, it tried to get mail and never seemed to get out of that mode. And that is typically how it fails a first-in-an-hour email-check then fails without making it through. Now, I always press _check mail for all_ and that may be the REAL issue. But I have never just tried, for a month solid, to check as individual ... but will suspect that it would fix the issue indeed. Tell you what. I will check the box that says ignore this account on and just do GMX manually for a week or so. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Recently, WL opined : Try going through something like a proxy, k9 for examle. Yes, OK, I will give it a try. Por la Mica : I don't see the messages about too frequent email checks when this has happened/is happening ... I have SEEN those type messages but you certainly realise that IF I am able to see the Don't bother gmx message then CC DID function correctly. And I have varied timeout to no avail And what is Bian Fu: and who much do I owe him? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Robin Anson waved a wand then said : Good thinking 99! MAXWELL !!! Answer your bloody shoe !! -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Displaying HTML
Recently, ETM squawked : Neither young nor old seem to consider the program, many never heard of it, those who have, have no interest. Ah ... they not forward thinking. They run with the flock yet know not why And, best of all, they do not know the beauty of Moldavia ... -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hot Key Annoyance
This just happened to me a second or two ago. I was near the end of a post to a Livestock Guardian Dog email list and my clumsy finger hit **some** unknown key in the upper or topmost tier and the whole email was sent along with a download of all accounts. I have, what I thought, were hot-keys switched off !! Most annoying it is. Most terribly annoying. I immediately hit the X on the Connection Centre window to try and kill it. I then hit the kill on the Dial-up but the message got out. What ires me is that I know there were typo's with red underlines and I was going to go back and do the grammar and spell check stuff as I do after I get to the end of the writing. I am not, despite being on Internet for a very long time, a speed type due to finger configuration and possibly brain configuration. I do NOT like that I have no control over some secretly placed hot-key. Mind you, I suspect it **could* be F-11 but am not sure. I would like to be able to selectively switch-off these keys. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hot Key Annoyance
Generally, MAU foretold : Open the Customise window (View/Toolbars/Customise) and select Main form/Main Menu (menu bar) on the top. Indeed ! A heap of thanks to you (geeze, I am still in Hungarian spell checker, not that I wanted to be) OK .. I must make another post under a different topic and find out how I get out of this -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Switching Languages
I was just writing to a friend and put a %language=HU in his template so that, I hoped, the special characters in his name would show up in the plain text email. They did. I was happy. However, I was writing in English and thus my spell checker only understood Kuvasz and a few other Hungarian words I said not too worry. Then I wrote to TBUDL and saw I was using charset Latin-9 and apparently still in the Hungarian spell checker. I checked the options charset and it said Latin-9. I changed it back. The Main TB! Options/Language still said English ... there is no Hungarian BTW so I have no idea what HU meant when I put THAT there ... Hun? Atilla the Hun charset? Egads. How, other than a TBUDL template macro of %charset=AM, do I revert back to my preferred TB! language? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hot Key Annoyance
It is said that Mica Mijatovic concocted the following rebuttal : For typos is good to check, in Editor's window, Automatic checking, in Spell Checker menu. yes, that's how I knew there were typographical errors already. My style, FWIW, is to *usually* go back after I see a few, then correct them. thanks for the help -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Switching Languages
Who would have guessed that MAU would have said : Open the editor and on main menu select Spell Checker/Language/... I knew I had seen it somewhere. Thanks You can also do it by right-clicking on the language that appears in the status bar at the bottom. not so here anyway. I set this reply to German Old then fiddled around with the Charset window. Changing to various charsets had no effect on the number of englisch wörter misspelled in deutsch. And there never was a Hungarian translation I guess? Well, it doesn't show up in the language or spell check menus. I do have the International Pack ... but I can only speak Cowboy so what the heck does it matter anyway? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't Authenticate SMTP
If I use OE on a new ISP dialup number, I can set the properties for My Server Requires Authentication ... and I can send email. When I try this with TB! I get an error back from the server that whatever_domain I am sending TO: is not a gateway ... in other words they do not see me as authenticated and thus are blocking port 25 relay's. I have tried every combo of settings covering SMTP in account properties. I put in my email address and account password and still get the following variations on a failure theme. First the TB packet capture then the OE! __TB___ 220 mail.wherever.net (IMail 8.21 2617-12) NT-ESMTP Server X1 EHLO 958.popsite.net 250-mail.wherever.net says hello 250-SIZE 0 250-8BITMIME 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH LOGIN 250-AUTH=LOGIN 250-EXPN 250 STARTTLS MAIL FROM:my_account SIZE=554 250 ok RCPT TO:my_gmx.net 550 not local host gmx.net, not a gateway RSET 250 ok its reset RSET 250 ok its reset QUIT 221 Goodbye ___ And Here's one from OE I just now sent to the gmx account 220 mail.wherever.net (IMail 8.21 3037-19) NT-ESMTP Server X1 EHLO localhost 250-mail.wherever.net says hello 250-SIZE 0 250-8BITMIME 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH LOGIN 250-AUTH=LOGIN 250-EXPN 250 STARTTLS AUTH LOGIN 334 Stuff 334 More stuff 235 authenticated MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok RCPT TO: my_gmx_account.net 250 ok its for my_gmx_account.net DATA 354 ok, send it; end with CRLF.CRLF Message-ID: 000501c6220a$6c126500$01 . and it sends the rest out. __ -- Regards, Robert D. Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.02 Qigong(Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Authenticate SMTP
Recently, Roelof Otten opined : As you're using the same version as I do, you should get similar results. OK solved wince when I took a look at what you said about checking box for authenticate same as pop mail inbound, I decided to check the box for Specific Settings. I manually typed in the first part before the @ then typed in a password with THAT email prefix, not what I use for inbound ... there is a reason for this actually, I am using two different domains, one for each, until the ISP switches over to fiber-optics Anyway, NOW it works OK, back to regular work. Thanks for the lessons everyone. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A QT inside a QT
I tried to make a QT that I'd put in my reply template. It was supposed to chose a sentence from a Cookie-Like text file AND include %OfromName inside the text line of the Called file .. a sample line might be: Recently, %OfromName steadfastly claimed: while another is %OFromName couldn't possibly have said : Yet, when I tried to use it, %OFromName appeared as typed not as intended. So, the Reply template had a line, something like: %Cookie=D:\Program Files\The Bat\replies.txt which then included lines like I just described. Why is original from name appearing as it does rather than the substitution? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.65.04 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A QT inside a QT
Recently, Alexander S. Kunz squawked: You can't use TBs macros in cookies, :cry: -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.65.04 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A QT inside a QT
It is said that George Mitchell concocted : I use it for exactly what you want to do: %Eval(%Cookie(%MailDir\TagLines.txt)) YES !! it is working. thanks a whole bunch !! -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail Port Configurations?
Recently, Nick Andriash squawked: I'm trying to set up my Google Mail Account with TB I am using: smtp.gmail.com on Port 586 Secure starTTLS pop.gmail.com secure to deidicated port 995 the user name is just that and I didn't put in gmail blah-blah And I _think_ this is all you need. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.65.04 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for *My Mail*
Recently, Charlene gently touched the wind: Guten Tag Robert, ebenfalls lol :kissy: -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.65.03 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter for *My Mail*
Sometimes I find it difficult to read every email in a huge thread to find IF some one replied to me. So I tried to make a filter that searched for the name Robert in the text. IF it found it, I __wanted__ it moved to some sort of sub-folder or Virtual Folder or **Watch-Me** folder. But I could not get that portion to work. How do many of you keep track of threads where you have replied and would be looking for another person to reply to you? Lately I have missed many replies in TBOT because I am unable to wind my way though many, many sub-threads all with the same apparent subject-line. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.65.02 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for *My Mail*
Recently, Charlene Ferrara squawked: Guten Tag Robert, Groß Gott (wenn ich ihm sehen) shouldn't work for you. I have a VF with an active filter OK, great !! tell me then please, how to I call it a VF in the select folder menu I couldn't figure how to name it so I tried %myfolder% Or, are you saying you pre-create the VF then select that VF as the drop-point for messages with CF in them which BTW you see I don't do that style of quotes but DO but your name in the salutation ... -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.65.02 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for *My Mail*
Recently, Paul Meathrel squawked: Hi Marck, Monday, January 16, 2006, 3:13:06 PM, you wrote: You can use a regex filter to look in the References I seem to have a server problem. I did NOT receive this post from Marck. I checked log. I checked trash. So, I can now see why I am having so much trouble following threads ... heck, I aint gittin but half of them . sigh -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.65.02 Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
