Addressbook
Hello TBBETA, I have been playing with the new addressbook following some struggles with it last week when I was trying to do a mass mailing using a template (for which I ended up having to revert to the old addressbook). The new addressbook does not have a menu from which things like Mass Mailings can be selected. From playing around, I found that the Actions button that appears if you select one or more contacts enables you to select Mass Mailing. However: - There does not appear to be a way to select all contacts in a particular addressbook. If you select an addressbook or sub-addressbook in the left hand list, the contacts appear on the right, but there is not a Select All option - each one has to be selected individually or you have to click on the first scroll to the end of the list and shift-click to select all. - The search box at the top of the list searches all addressbooks, not the one selected. - If you select a contact from addressbook, the contact details appear on the right and that addressbook's contacts appear on the left, but you cannot then go back. If you want to go back to the list of all addressbooks on the left and individual addressbook contacts on the right, you need to click the hamburger menu on the left and then select the individual addressbook again. A back button to take you back to the list again would be much easier. Overall, I think I will stick to the old addressbook for the time being. I can see the new one has potential, but it is not as functional as the old one at the moment. Finally, I did notice that the menu on the old addressbook was detached from the actual addressbook in my two-monitor setup. The addressbook window appears in the middle of screen 2, but the menu (File|Edit|View) is stuck in the top left corner of screen 2 and does not move if I drag the window to screen 1. -- Julian Using The Bat! v10.2.1 on Windows 10.0 Build 19043 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F50FE5DF]: Scrambled addressbook message templates after upgrade
On Monday, June 21, 2021, 09:02:06, Ian A. White wrote: > After upgrading from version 4.2 to version 9.3.4, ALL my message templates > for address groups in the addressbook are horribly scrambled. They appear as > HTML source code converted to something like UTF-7 or UTF-8. > Does anyone know of an online tool that can be used to make easier sense out > of this "dialect"? > So far, the online tools take the scrambled text and simply repeats it with > no conversion. > The problem is I have dozens of these templates that need updating. If you have a backup from before you did the upgrade, I suggest you reinstall the old version and restore the backup, then upgrade through all intermediate major versions: <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/archive-versions.php> (don't forget to run TB once after each upgrade, maybe also check a template or two) -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Experience varies directly with equipment ruined. -- Morner's Rule of Thumb Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook Tips
Hi On Friday 10 June 2016 at 10:47:17 PM, in <mid:135938819.20160610174...@newmangroup.com>, Richard Newman wrote: > My addressbook has slowed to a snails pace and > frequently search doesn't work. I have not encountered that, but I only have a few dozen addresses stored (plus over 300 in the Certificate address books). > Where is there a good discussion of TB's > addressbook In TB!'s help file. Or at <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/70/> > and how to > increase it's efficiency . . . probably by > exporting and then > reimporting? Not seen. But did you try Edit | Properties | Compact? -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Working hard. Please interrupt at once. Using The Bat! v7.1.18 on Windows 10.0 Build 10586 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Addressbook Tips
Hello Bat People, My addressbook has slowed to a snails pace and frequently search doesn't work. Where is there a good discussion of TB's addressbook and how to increase it's efficiency . . . probably by exporting and then reimporting? Thanks. -- Best regards, Richard mailto:the...@newmangroup.com = Using The Bat! v7.1.18 on Windows XP10 Build 10586 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook entry issues
Hallo Ian, On Mon, 20 May 2013 09:23:52 +1000GMT (20-5-2013, 1:23 , where I live), you wrote: IAW When I add a contact to a particular group in my addressbook, the IAW entry also shows up in the addressbook root group. If I delete it from IAW the root or the particular group I added it to, both entries get IAW deleted. The problem is that you don't understand the exact structure of the address book. You're seeing the address groups and as they are shown as folders, you think they are folders. However, TB's address groups aren't folders, they're labels. So when you delete an entry from the root, you also delete it from the groups it was part of, because you delete the actual entry. It doesn't work the other way around (even though you seem to claim so) Deleting an entry from a group merely erases the group label for that entry. (Yes, I've tested that multiple times before posting that here.) You can also a single entry to multiple groups whether those groups have any connections with other or not. In a follow up message you found out about the 'hide items if not explicitly selected' option for an address group. Thjat option does two things. It stops the entry from being displayed in the root and when you delete such a message from a group, it'll be completely deleted from the address book. Those options stop working when you add an entry to a group with the hide items enabled and to a group without that option enabled. Adding an entry to a group with the 'hide items..' option enabled will keep it from being disp[layed in the root. So if you want it back and you create a new entry in the root, (You might want it there, after all) then you will have two entries with the same address. Look into the properties, if you've got one entry then the one entry will tell you to what groups that address belongs, but with two entries, they will show different group settings. Basically that is a bad thing. Multiple entries with the same address need to be changed all when that address changes (more work), but more important, the address book templates you've created for one of those entries won't work as expected, you'll never know what template settings you'll be using. All in all, TB's addres book is a wonderfull thing even tough you need to sit down a bit in order to understand it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Borg Moderator: Your Topic is Irrelevant. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.3.10 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook entry issues
Sunday, May 19, 2013, 6:23:52 PM, you wrote: How can I add an entry and have it in the group I want and not duplicated in the addressbook root? I don't think that is possible; the group is simply a subset of the addressbook root entries. This architecture makes it possible for a single entry to belong to multiple groups, without duplicating the entry again for each group. You could achieve the same effect by creating a group named Others and then adding every entry that's not a member of any other group to this one. That would let you totally ignore the root, and search only the desired group to locate an entry... -- Best regards, Jimmailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox 3.2.12 under Xubuntu 10.04.2 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook entry issues
This is not as clear as it could be (at least to me). By checking it, the entry remains in the particular group, but is not shown in the root of the addressbook. It is not clear, an that threw me a bit when I first started with the bat. I don't really see a use for it. If you are in my address book I don't want you hidden anywhere. Perhaps someone else can add to this and explain how that is used. Whenever I create a new group. that is the first thing I uncheck -- Rick The point is that Republicans are always talking about deregulation and big government. But I say their philosophy is small government for the big guy and big government for the little guy. And so, if my wife's uterus was incorporated or my friend's bedroom was incorporated, maybe the Republicans would be talking about deregulating. - Representative Scott Randolph, Florida v5.3.10 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP accounts I download all images Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook entry issues
On Mon, 20 May 2013 at 10:01:21 +1000,Ian wrote: Hide items if not explicitly selected This is not as clear as it could be (at least to me). I've never understood what this is intended to mean. Hide items if _what_ is not explicitly selected?? Hide items from _what_?? Presumably it did make sense to someone once, and I'd love to hear an explanation. It should say something like Don't display group members in root. -- Robin Using The Bat! v5.3.8 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook problem
Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2009 at 19:00, Alberto Almagioni wrote: after restoring TheBat! on the new laptop I can not open my addressbook If you still have access to the old installation, you could export the Adressbook as an workaround. -- With kind Regards Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.1.11.3 mit AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.5 und Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.1.91.0 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM 7 POP3 Accounts - 120 Folders Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook problem
This is not the problem because, I tried also to remove the addressbook file (also the addressboook.ini) and as I open the addressbook tool TheBat! crash. I think the problem should be somewhere in the configuration but I'm not able to find it with the informations form log and eventviewer. This seems to be an application problem not a file problem... -- Ciao Al Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Addressbook Display Name
Hello, Is there anyway to mass set Display Name for contacts? When I select multiple persons the Display Name is grayed. Do it one by one is not an option for 1000+ persons that I have in my addressbook -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v4.0.37.26 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires
Hallo monsell, On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:35:45 +0530GMT (12-3-2008, 4:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: 2.In the 'Action' section of your filter use the item 'Address groups' and in that, enter the name of the group you set up in the address book. The occurrence of any one of the addreses will trigger the filter. M Hi, Using TB v-3.0.1.33 and i dont see this option. is it available in M this version? Yes, however you shouldn't look at the 'actions' part of the filter, but at the 'conditions'. I guess Roger made a typo. -- Groetjes, Roelof This is just one humble opinion, collect the whole series http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.18 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpaYKZGlqryW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires
Hello Roger, first of all thanks for your answer. Sorry for my wrong description of what I called address book, I meant indeed address groups and that implies that I have to create for each email address one address book entry and that is something exactly what I would like to avoid. It will create redundant information on other information as well like telephone numbers etc, which are then hard to maintain if you have to check it on all possible entries. I haven't found a way to create subgroups which would be nice as my address book contains already groups like 'office' 'family' friends' etc. I would prefer if I can keep that grouping as well. The address book entry does allow multiple email addresses so I thought that there might be a possibility to make use of that feature. Cheers, Hartwig Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 6:58:29 PM, you wrote: RP 1. Create a group folder in your adress book containing the addresses you RP want to trigger the filter. RP 2. In the 'Action' section of your filter use the item 'Address groups' and RP in that, enter the name of the group you set up in the address book. The RP occurrence of any one of the addreses will trigger the filter. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires
Hello Monsell, Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 5:05:45 AM, among other things, you wrote: 2.In the 'Action' section of your filter use the item 'Address groups' and in that, enter the name of the group you set up in the address book. The occurrence of any one of the addreses will trigger the filter. mmic Hi, Using TB v-3.0.1.33 and i dont see this option. is it available in mmic this version? Sorry, but I cannot remember in which version this 'Action' was introduced. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.18 POP3 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.7, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires
Hello Hartwig, Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 6:30:33 PM, among other things, you wrote: HH I haven't found a way to create subgroups which would be nice as my HH address book contains already groups like 'office' 'family' friends' HH etc. I would prefer if I can keep that grouping as well. HH The address book entry does allow multiple email addresses so I thought HH that there might be a possibility to make use of that feature. I must admit I am not completely certain that I understand what you think is a problem! It is possible to assign any individual address book item to any number of groups, without doing anything more than adding to the list of groups in one of the group entries. Doesn't this achieve what you want? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.18 POP3 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.7, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, March 12, 2008, 1:08:36 PM, among other things, you wrote: RO Hallo monsell, RO On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:35:45 +0530GMT (12-3-2008, 4:05 +0100, where I RO live), you wrote: 2.In the 'Action' section of your filter use the item 'Address groups' and in that, enter the name of the group you set up in the address book. The occurrence of any one of the addreses will trigger the filter. M Hi, Using TB v-3.0.1.33 and i dont see this option. is it available in M this version? RO Yes, however you shouldn't look at the 'actions' part of the filter, RO but at the 'conditions'. I guess Roger made a typo. How right you are, as usual. :) My apologies to all concerned, just getting too old? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.18 POP3 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.7, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires)
Hallo H, On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:33 +0100GMT (12-3-2008, 17:30, where I live), you wrote: HH Cheers, HH Hartwig HH Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 6:58:29 PM, you wrote: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out H. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof I'm gonna declare moderator appreciation week. pgpG3fL2saQac.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires
Hallo H, On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:30:33 +0100GMT (12-3-2008, 17:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: HH I haven't found a way to create subgroups which would be nice as HH my address book contains already groups like 'office' 'family' HH friends' etc. I would prefer if I can keep that grouping as well. You don't need to use subgroups to keep your old grouping while still creating new groups. Any address book entry can belong to as many address book groups as you like. For instance, you can have an address book group 'twits' that contains your boss, your brother in law and your best friend's wife. -- Groetjes, Roelof WIN ERROR #012: Computer doesn't really multitask. (I)gnore (O)rder Amiga.. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.18 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpHaJpLy2DGF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires
Dear Tbudl, I would like to create a filter that triggers on an addressbook entry containing multiple email addresses without adding more rules to the same filter. I searched the list archive and found solutions from 2002 to create for each of the email addresses a own address entry and sum them up in addressbooks. Is this still the only way how to deal with filtering on multiple email addresses in one address entry or is there are more elegant one where I explicitly say to search all email addresses containing in one address entry ? Thanks in advance, Hartwig -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires
Hello H, Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 4:13:38 PM, among other things, you wrote: HHgd I would like to create a filter that triggers on an addressbook entry HHgd containing multiple email addresses without adding more rules to the same filter. HHgd I searched the list archive and found solutions from 2002 to create HHgd for each of the email addresses a own address entry and sum them up in addressbooks. HHgd Is this still the only way how to deal with filtering on multiple HHgd email addresses in one address entry or is there are more elegant one HHgd where I explicitly say to search all email addresses containing in one address entry ? 1. Create a group folder in your adress book containing the addresses you want to trigger the filter. 2. In the 'Action' section of your filter use the item 'Address groups' and in that, enter the name of the group you set up in the address book. The occurrence of any one of the addreses will trigger the filter. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.18 POP3 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.7, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filtering on multiple emails addressbook entires
Hello H, Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 4:13:38 PM, among other things, you wrote: 2.In the 'Action' section of your filter use the item 'Address groups' and in that, enter the name of the group you set up in the address book. The occurrence of any one of the addreses will trigger the filter. Hi, Using TB v-3.0.1.33 and i dont see this option. is it available in this version? -- Best Regards Rizvi Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Addressbook extended
Hello Everyone, I was just fiddling with a filter and came about the option to select Address book extended as opposed to Address book or Address Groups. What does this refer to? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook extended
Hallo Tom, On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:20:46 +1100GMT (4-3-2008, 9:20 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T I was just fiddling with a filter and came about the option to select T Address book extended as opposed to Address book or Address Groups. With 'address book' you check whether the address is in any of your address books. 'address book extended' checks specific address books. 'address book groups' checks address book groups for an occurence of the address. -- Groetjes, Roelof Women, like rabbits, will hop into bed at night. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.14.9 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpN86t83slUR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook extended
Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 8:01:37 PM, you wrote: Hallo Tom, On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:20:46 +1100GMT (4-3-2008, 9:20 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T I was just fiddling with a filter and came about the option to select T Address book extended as opposed to Address book or Address Groups. With 'address book' you check whether the address is in any of your address books. 'address book extended' checks specific address books. 'address book groups' checks address book groups for an occurence of the address. excellent - thanks Roelof -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro
Friday, June 1, 2007, 11:57:57 AM, you wrote: Hello Tom, On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:04:19 +1000 GMT (31/05/2007, 09:04 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T one of my contacts is using an address that appears as [EMAIL PROTECTED] T in my header. His email address is normal like [EMAIL PROTECTED] T I am losing my hair trying to remove the underline before his first T name in my set up for email to him either as new email or replies. T check whether you have another entry for this recipient, or whether you corrected it for the entry in which he has another email address. TB chooses the AB-macros based on the email address. After a lot of searching, I finally tracked down a second entry for this contact in an unrelated AB. The contact ended up there via a filter that should not really have applied for this one. Removing the name from this AB fixed the reply issue :) -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro
Friday, June 1, 2007, 7:08:26 PM, you wrote: Friday, June 1, 2007, Tom wrote: Also, I now copied the exact same entry in both macros for compose and reply %ABTOFromFName and the output is different. In compose I have as output Dear (blank), Kind Regards... Yes, since there is nothing for the macro to take it's value from in a new mail. You probably want to use %ABToFirstName instead. whereas my reply has output Dear _Joe ... Looks like the first name field in AB is _Joe. Change it to Joe Ok, you were right :) re the new mail issue, I now get the output from addressbook but only if I choose the correct suggestion. This is also the problem when replying. However, the other issue remains open as the address is set up correctly. As mentioned before, my address book only shows one listing for this contact like [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when composing a new email and I start typing Joe I have three choices: 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] In each case the actual email address is identical. So I suppose TB is checking against received emails and the contact may use different accounts where he set up accounts slightly differently (for reasons I don't understand). So, if I use option 3, then my macro will work and I guess that's a solution. Ideally though I would like to suppress options 1 and 2 as redundant and preventing my macro to work. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro
Friday, June 1, 2007, Tom wrote: Also, I now copied the exact same entry in both macros for compose and reply %ABTOFromFName and the output is different. In compose I have as output Dear (blank), Kind Regards... Yes, since there is nothing for the macro to take it's value from in a new mail. You probably want to use %ABToFirstName instead. whereas my reply has output Dear _Joe ... Looks like the first name field in AB is _Joe. Change it to Joe -- Urban I know a lot about cars. I can look at a car's headlights and tell you exactly which way it's coming. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro
Hello Tom, On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:42:46 +1000 GMT (01/06/2007, 16:42 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T As mentioned before, my address book only shows one listing for this T contact like [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when composing a new email and I T start typing Joe I have three choices: T 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] T 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] T 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you start typing the email address into the TO field, the history of mails you have sent will be shown. The AB template will kick in only if you choose the same email address as in the AB. If this is not the case, a higher template (account or folder) will be used. Hence, if you choose _joe@, the AB template will not be used, and you probably have Dear %ToFName in your account template(I think that's the default). T In each case the actual email address is identical. So I suppose TB T is checking against received emails No, it checks against previously used names/addresses in sent mails. There used to be something in Options / Preferences where you could choose whether the recipients should be completed from AB and/or history, but I cannot find it now. -- Cheers, Thomas. I have an excellent track record, although I am not a horse, http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro
Hello Tom, On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:04:19 +1000 GMT (31/05/2007, 09:04 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T one of my contacts is using an address that appears as [EMAIL PROTECTED] T in my header. His email address is normal like [EMAIL PROTECTED] T I am losing my hair trying to remove the underline before his first T name in my set up for email to him either as new email or replies. T I set up his details in address book without the underline and use the T following macro:Dear %ABOFromFName. I hope you mean %ABTOFromFName. ^ T missing above. This macro will take the first name as it appears in the addressbook, regardless of how it is typed in the incoming message (in case of replies). So you will still have the typo in the AB. If you already corrected it, check whether you have another entry for this recipient, or whether you corrected it for the entry in which he has another email address. TB chooses the AB-macros based on the email address. -- Cheers, Thomas. How come we choose from just two people for president and 50 for Miss America? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro
Friday, June 1, 2007, 11:57:57 AM, you wrote: If you already corrected it, check whether you have another entry for this recipient, or whether you corrected it for the entry in which he has another email address. TB chooses the AB-macros based on the email address. Thomas, thanks but it was just a typo when cutting and pasting in my email. The macro had the full correct version. Checking your second suggestion, I am not sure. My AB only has one listing for this contact, however if I try to write an email the suggestions will not only contain the AB entry but also the version with _. Not sure where to look for the second entry then. Where are the suggested recipients stored (based on received emails)? Also, I now copied the exact same entry in both macros for compose and reply %ABTOFromFName and the output is different. In compose I have as output Dear (blank), Kind Regards... whereas my reply has output Dear _Joe ... hmmm, totally baffled -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
reply to addressbook issue re macro
Hello fellow Batlovers, one of my contacts is using an address that appears as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my header. His email address is normal like [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am losing my hair trying to remove the underline before his first name in my set up for email to him either as new email or replies. I set up his details in address book without the underline and use the following macro:Dear %ABOFromFName. Despite all of this the underline still appears and I have to manually remove it each time. What am I missing? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: another Addressbook and filter question
Hi guys, just a quick update on my issue :) I followed Roger's advice and this solved my problem. Now everything works as intended (until I come up with another challenge for TB). Re filtering other folders than the inbox, maybe my query was confusing. The filter worked fine on incoming emails on the inbox and the sub-folder before. (So in this case the sequence of filters was correct). However, what I had intended was to refilter existing emails in the subordinated folder and this did not work as intended. I needed to do this to generate the addresses in the special addressbook I was creating. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: another Addressbook and filter question
Hello MFPA (and Tom), Sunday, May 6, 2007, 9:23:37 PM, among other things, you wrote: An 'incoming mail' filter only works on messages in the Inbox folder. First move all the messages into your inbox, and then do a refilter. M Dunno if that varies by version; here I can re-filter any folder M using the incoming filter set. Sorry for the delay but I could not do any tests until now. You are quite correct, it *is* possible to use an 'Incoming mail' filter on any folder. I set up a filter to copy 'From' addresses to a special address book group as Tom was trying to do and it worked perfectly. I'm wondering if Tom had his filter placed too late in the filters tree and the earlier filters moved the messages to anmother folder before his special filter saw them? I had this happen before I made the specail filter the first one, and it then worked. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v3.99.3 with AntispamSniper 2.0.0.4 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: another Addressbook and filter question
Hi On Saturday 5 May 2007 at 5:16:37 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Roger Phillips wrote: An 'incoming mail' filter only works on messages in the Inbox folder. First move all the messages into your inbox, and then do a refilter. Dunno if that varies by version; here I can re-filter any folder using the incoming filter set. -- Best regards, MFPA Only dead fish go with the flow Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: another Addressbook and filter question
Hello Tom, Friday, May 4, 2007, 7:26:51 AM, among other things, you wrote: T still working on an issue regarding filtering addresses. T I have about 1000 emails in one folder (a subfolder) and would like to T add all sender's addresses to a Adressbook (subdirectory in Personal T Addressbooks). I tried to set up a manual filter and used refilter but T I seem to be missing something. Nothing gets exported on the existing T emails. How should I best tackle this? T An 'incoming mail' filter only works on messages in the Inbox folder. First move all the messages into your inbox, and then do a refilter. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v3.99.3 with AntispamSniper 2.0.0.4 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Addressbook query
Hello Everyone, I recently created a new Addressbook containing the addresses of all incoming emails. This worked fine as I then set up a filter to show incoming mails from existing contacts in a special folder. Today I intended to add a further folder for important or suspicious contacts based on a further addressbook that should contain email addresses for monitoring. I created the new address book and then noticed that my previous address book containing all emails is empty. The default personal addressbook including its groups still exists. Looking at the file size of the lost addressbook in the application folder it may indeed by empty as it has the same size as the new AB I created this morning. Is there any easy way to repopulate this AB (basically all email addresses contained in one folder) and any idea what I did wrong (so I will avoid this in future?) -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook query
Friday, May 4, 2007, 9:32:17 AM, you wrote: Hello Everyone, I recently created a new Addressbook containing the addresses of all incoming emails. This worked fine as I then set up a filter to show incoming mails from existing contacts in a special folder. Today I intended to add a further folder for important or suspicious contacts based on a further addressbook that should contain email addresses for monitoring. I created the new address book and then noticed that my previous address book containing all emails is empty. The default personal addressbook including its groups still exists. Looking at the file size of the lost addressbook in the application folder it may indeed by empty as it has the same size as the new AB I created this morning. Is there any easy way to repopulate this AB (basically all email addresses contained in one folder) and any idea what I did wrong (so I will avoid this in future?) sorry guys, figured it out already. I looked at new addressbook when the addresses were actually in a subgroup of the personal address book. I am surprised though that this came allocated to one of my earlier unrelated queries instead of a new question? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook query
Hi On Friday 4 May 2007 at 2:50:42 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom wrote: I am surprised though that this came allocated to one of my earlier unrelated queries instead of a new question? Here, the first of your two posts starts a new thread as expected. Have you inadvertently re-threaded it? -- Best regards, MFPA A closed mouth gathers no foot Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook query
Hello Tom, On Fri, 4 May 2007 11:50:42 +1000 GMT (04/05/2007, 08:50 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T I am surprised though that this came allocated to one of my earlier T unrelated queries instead of a new question? You started a new thread over here. I sort by references only. Maybe you sort by subject and there was a similar thread earlier. -- Cheers, Thomas. When nobody is looking, Power Users pretend their mouse is a toy car, and race it around the desk. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook query
Friday, May 4, 2007, 12:13:51 PM, you wrote: Hi On Friday 4 May 2007 at 2:50:42 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom wrote: I am surprised though that this came allocated to one of my earlier unrelated queries instead of a new question? Here, the first of your two posts starts a new thread as expected. Have you inadvertently re-threaded it? not sure what I did but I guess you are right - must be one of those days :( -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
another Addressbook and filter question
Hello Everyone, still working on an issue regarding filtering addresses. I have about 1000 emails in one folder (a subfolder) and would like to add all sender's addresses to a Adressbook (subdirectory in Personal Addressbooks). I tried to set up a manual filter and used refilter but I seem to be missing something. Nothing gets exported on the existing emails. How should I best tackle this? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Addressbook problems with The Bat! v3.95.06
Hi, After installing the latest version of TheBat (v3.95.06), I am facing some problems. (1) if I select couple of messages and do add sender to address book and specifiy contact group to be added, only the first message sender is added and rest ignored. (2) Somewhat worsed! As above didn't work, I tried to create rule to add sender to addressbook-group, for all messages in a directory. After running this rule, my whole address book is missing, and lost all contacts. I tried to load addressbook set, import etc. and nothing works. Someone had similar experience`? SD -- Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Addressbook problems with The Bat! v3.95.06
Hi, After installing the latest version of TheBat (v3.95.06), I am facing some problems. (1) if I select couple of messages and do add sender to address book and specifiy contact group to be added, only the first message sender is added and rest ignored. (2) Somewhat worsed! As above didn't work, I tried to create rule to add sender to addressbook-group, for all messages in a directory. After running this rule, my whole address book is missing, and lost all contacts. I tried to load addressbook set, import etc. and nothing works. Someone had similar experience`? SD __ Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook problems with The Bat! v3.95.06
Hallo SD, On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:39:03 +0200GMT (6-2-2007, 14:39 +0100, where I live), you wrote: N if I select couple of messages and do add sender to address book and N specifiy contact group to be added, only the first message sender is N added and rest ignored. I've heard that before. N Somewhat worsed! N As above didn't work, I tried to create rule to add sender to N addressbook-group, for all messages in a directory. After running this N rule, my whole address book is missing, and lost all contacts. Cannot confirm that behaviour with the current version (3.95.08) I've got several filters that add contacts to address book groups (never a whole folder at once though) and they work flawlessly. N -- Your cutsign id fsiling. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 003: Dynamic linking error - Your mistake is now in every file http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpurOPUvV1Bm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook problems with The Bat! v3.95.06
The problem is everything was working fine with earlier version. I was able to add sender from multiple messages at once to addressbook group/groups. Now it isn't possible After my addressbook got missing, it just doesn't load any addresses when I try to load/import the ABD file. I tried repair, reinstall TheBat!, but no success. On 2/7/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo SD, On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:39:03 +0200GMT (6-2-2007, 14:39 +0100, where I live), you wrote: N if I select couple of messages and do add sender to address book and N specifiy contact group to be added, only the first message sender is N added and rest ignored. I've heard that before. N Somewhat worsed! N As above didn't work, I tried to create rule to add sender to N addressbook-group, for all messages in a directory. After running this N rule, my whole address book is missing, and lost all contacts. Cannot confirm that behaviour with the current version (3.95.08) I've got several filters that add contacts to address book groups (never a whole folder at once though) and they work flawlessly. N -- Your cutsign id fsiling. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 003: Dynamic linking error - Your mistake is now in every file http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Addressbook problems with The Bat! v3.95.06)
Hallo SD, On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:47:57 +0200GMT (7-2-2007, 2:47, where I live), you wrote: I tried repair, reinstall TheBat!, but no success. On 2/7/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo SD, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Nav. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Somewhere, somehow, a Moderator is watching you. pgpPBdVoXPJty.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook problems with The Bat! v3.95.06
Hallo Nav, On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:47:57 +0200GMT (7-2-2007, 2:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: The problem is everything was working fine with earlier version. I was able to add sender from multiple messages at once to addressbook group/groups. Now it isn't possible I know. As I said I've heard that before. It's a known bug of the current version. After my addressbook got missing, it just doesn't load any addresses when I try to load/import the ABD file. How big is your address book file? Maybe it got too big? (Just guessing.) I don't know how many messages you had in the folder you used to update your AB, nor do I know of any limit for the AB, but there's got to be a reason for your AB to get lost. (My AB contains 1821 entries and is about 608 kB) I tried repair, reinstall TheBat!, but no success. You wouldn't happen to have some backup somewhere, would you? It's possible to restore only the AB from a full TB backup. -- Groetjes, Roelof How wise are they that are but fools in love! Cooke http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpGo6i7umWju.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
reply to macro and addressbook issue
Hello Everyone, I am using the %OFromFName macro in my reply templates and believe this is based on how the incoming email is received (ie how the sender configured his email address or header). I often notice that this is not working well as the output is unsuitable, e.g. one of my contacts uses an email like _joe Company name. In this case my reply comes out as Dear _joe, in other cases they use jane.doe@ and my reply is Dear Jane.Doe . I just sent a message to myself using as address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and then added me to the address book as First Name Test and Last Name Ing. When trying to reply it just says: Hello testing. Is there any way to correct this. I tried to do this within the addressbook by amending how the name is shown there but this does not seem to have any influence on the macro output. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to macro and addressbook issue
Hallo Tom, On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:31:51 +1100GMT (22-1-2007, 12:31 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T I am using the %OFromFName macro in my reply templates and believe T this is based on how the incoming email is received (ie how the sender T configured his email address or header). That's correct. T Is there any way to correct this. I tried to do this within the T addressbook by amending how the name is shown there but this does not T seem to have any influence on the macro output. You could use this: %ABToFirstName=%OFromFName The ABToFirstName will take the first name from the AB entry that matches the (first) address in the To: header. When you've got multiple AB entries with that address the behaviour of the macro will be impaired (like all of TB's address book related actions will multiple entries for the same address). The =%OFromFName will substitute the OFromFName in case there is no AB entry for the given address (or the first name is empty) -- Groetjes, Roelof When I was a boy, when Fortran was only Twotran http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgptwRuEB3FCE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
Hallo Tom, On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:19:33 +1100GMT (21-1-2007, 0:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T Got it now -priority individual template / group template / account template Well, you're forgetting about folder templates, they go between group templates and account templates. T and if you have a couple of recipients listed individually in the T To field, the template used is the template that's supposed to be T used for the first address on the To: header. Yes. T However if this is a mailing to a group with a group handle, then the group template T applies overriding the individual template for this particular mailing, right? If you're using the group handle in the To: header, yes. -- Groetjes, Roelof Power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda neat, though... http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpyz1GDCqRh3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
T Got it now -priority individual template / group template / account template Well, you're forgetting about folder templates, they go between group templates and account templates. Well, actually I read about these but did not understand when I would be using them nor where I would set up the details. If I rightclick my folders, properties there is nothing there to enter a template? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
Hallo Tom, On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:58:01 +1100GMT (21-1-2007, 9:58 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T Got it now -priority individual template / group template / account template Well, you're forgetting about folder templates, they go between group templates and account templates. T Well, actually I read about these but did not understand when I would T be using them nor where I would set up the details. If I rightclick my T folders, properties there is nothing there to enter a template? look again, there are template tabs. Folder templates are used when you star a message while you've got focus on a folder. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, VISA. (I came, I saw, I went shopping) http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpLZ7dFSrmbZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
Sunday, January 21, 2007, 8:36:01 PM, you wrote: Well, you're forgetting about folder templates, they go between group templates and account templates. T Well, actually I read about these but did not understand when I would T be using them nor where I would set up the details. If I rightclick my T folders, properties there is nothing there to enter a template? look again, there are template tabs. right, previously looked at inbox which does not have any tabs. Now I can see that other folders created by me later do have the tabs. I guess that gives me one further level of customisation. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
Hallo Tom, On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:19:59 +1100GMT (20-1-2007, 1:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T Also, if I have set up templates for the group, it appears that they T have priority over templates of the individual. Actually, it's the other way around. If a individual template exists, it will always override the group template. When you want to send a message to a couple of recipients, the template used is the template that's supposed to be used for the first address on the To: header. TB doesn't care whether they are part of the same group or not. -- Groetjes, Roelof How wise are they that are but fools in love! Cooke http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp1FTCCV99h3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
Hello Tom, On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:19:59 +1100 GMT (20/01/2007, 07:19 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T I would like to include a contact in a formal group (with legal T templates) for recurring messages but also have private emails with T this person, how would I do that? If I want to meet for tennis T privately, I don't want the formal template to override? If he uses the same email address for both private and business emails, TB cannot know whether your mail is private or not. In that case, you would not put the signature into the AB template, but add it manually with a Quick Template every time. I find that too cumbersome and just use the business singature in that case, even if the mail is private. Who cares? -- Cheers, Thomas. Dim sum. (Latin for: I forget.) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
Saturday, January 20, 2007, 6:07:59 PM, you wrote: T Also, if I have set up templates for the group, it appears that they T have priority over templates of the individual. Actually, it's the other way around. If a individual template exists, it will always override the group template. When you want to send a message to a couple of recipients, the template used is the template that's supposed to be used for the first address on the To: header. TB doesn't care whether they are part of the same group or not. Got it now -priority individual template / group template / account template and if you have a couple of recipients listed individually in the To field, the template used is the template that's supposed to be used for the first address on the To: header. However if this is a mailing to a group with a group handle, then the group template applies overriding the individual template for this particular mailing, right? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
addressbook query
Hello Everyone, I am trying to improve my usage of addressbook, groups and template functions and stumbled across two queries. It appears that if I include a contact in a group, this contact can no longer be searched in the normal addressbook but only in the groups. While I can set up contacts in various groups, why do they disappear from the overall addressbook listing? Also, if I have set up templates for the group, it appears that they have priority over templates of the individual. Assuming this is correct and I would like to include a contact in a formal group (with legal templates) for recurring messages but also have private emails with this person, how would I do that? If I want to meet for tennis privately, I don't want the formal template to override? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
Hello Tom, Friday, January 19, 2007, 6:19:59 PM, you wrote: While I can set up contacts in various groups, why do they disappear from the overall addressbook listing? In the group properties, uncheck Hide items if not Explicitly selected. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.95.8 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 at 11:19:59 +1100, Tom wrote: Also, if I have set up templates for the group, it appears that they have priority over templates of the individual. Assuming this is correct and I would like to include a contact in a formal group (with legal templates) for recurring messages but also have private emails with this person, how would I do that? If I want to meet for tennis privately, I don't want the formal template to override? How do you distinguish between a formal and a private email? What about the email could TB use to identify which is which? -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.95.6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird addressbook problem
Hallo Costas, On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 08:42:16 +0200GMT (26-12-2006, 7:42 , where I live), you wrote: CP Regarding the possible causes of the error, it's true that I have CP duplicate entries in my Addressbook, if one counts as duplicates those CP entries that have the same email address, but are otherwise different CP (including having a different nickname (handle)). That's duplicate enough to cause problems. -- Groetjes, Roelof Wizard's Guild Parking Only: Violators will be Toad. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpy55jLgEXCG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird addressbook problem
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, December 26, 2006, 12:28:42 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 08:42:16 +0200GMT (26-12-2006, 7:42 , where I live), you wrote: CP it's true that I have CP duplicate entries in my Addressbook, if one counts as duplicates those CP entries that have the same email address, but are otherwise different CP (including having a different nickname (handle)). That's duplicate enough to cause problems. I'll accept that, and I should note that thankfully this behaviour only occurs with just one email address - mine! By the way, with the other duplicate email addresses, the nicknames appear inconsistently in the email messages, that is for some group members the nickname is the correct one for the group whereas for others the email recipient's nickname in the email that I send is the one belonging to the email address, but in another group of the same addressbook. To illustrate, if I have Group A and Group B in the same addressbook, and nickname1 and nickname2 for the same email address respectively, then an email may be sent to Group A showing nickname2 instead of nickname1. However, this irregularity may not arise for other people in the groups. As I couldn't find any pattern for this, I gave up trying to fix it some time ago. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird addressbook problem
Roelof Otten wrote: That's duplicate enough to cause problems. With regard to duplicate email addresses. I have a customer who uses his Secretary's email address so that all emails to him are filtered by her. I sometimes need to email her individually so I have two address book entries for two separate people, but each have the same email address. I take it that this causes problems in TB!? I wouldn't have thought that this was that uncommon, even in today's world I guess people still share an email address in much the same way as people share a postal address? So perhaps this is a shortcoming of TB!? -- Best regards Barry. Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird addressbook problem
Hello Barry everyone else, on 26-Dez-2006 at 11:58 you (Barry) wrote: I take it that this causes problems in TB!? Depends on what you're doing. If you're using two different templates for the boss and the secretary, yes. How should TB determine which email address belongs to whom when you're just using the mail address? So perhaps this is a shortcoming of TB!? Partly. TB should maybe use a contact based address book, and not an email address based address book. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Schöneberg (Original Marmion Mix) by Marmion Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird addressbook problem
Hallo BJH, On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:58:10 +GMT (26-12-2006, 11:58 , where I live), you wrote: B With regard to duplicate email addresses. B I have a customer who uses his Secretary's email address so that all B emails to him are filtered by her. B I sometimes need to email her individually so I have two address book B entries for two separate people, but each have the same email address. B I take it that this causes problems in TB!? It won't cause any problems, unless you're going to use %ABToXXX macros in your messages to them. And I think that only one them will receive a mass mailing message when you include both of their entries. B I wouldn't have thought that this was that uncommon, even in today's B world I guess people still share an email address in much the same way B as people share a postal address? It isn't that uncommon, but there is a major difference with a postal address. Your snailmail gets delivered per envelope, so your housemates see your name and let it closed. Unfortunately receiving an email message makes it very hard not to read it. So there is a distinct difference between the two kinds of addresses. B So perhaps this is a shortcoming of TB!? IMO it's no shortcoming. I guess it's kind of impossible to personalise a message to a non personal address. Not doing the impossible isn't a shortcoming, is it? -- Groetjes, Roelof Every person constructs their own bed of nails. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpuDzMECofkh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird addressbook problem
Hallo Costas, On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:51:23 +0200GMT (26-12-2006, 11:51 , where I live), you wrote: CP By the way, with the other duplicate email addresses, the nicknames CP appear inconsistently in the email messages, that is for some group CP members the nickname is the correct one for the group whereas for CP others the email recipient's nickname in the email that I send is the CP one belonging to the email address, but in another group of the same CP addressbook. To illustrate, if I have Group A and Group B in the same CP addressbook, and nickname1 and nickname2 for the same email address CP respectively, then an email may be sent to Group A showing nickname2 CP instead of nickname1. However, this irregularity may not arise for CP other people in the groups. As I couldn't find any pattern for this, I CP gave up trying to fix it some time ago. The pattern might be that the nickname to be used is the nickname that belongs to the oldest entry. The solution might be to skip the duplicate entries (you can add the same entry to multiple groups) and use separate AB fields for the nicknames for the different groups. And then you use %ABToHandle for your templates regarding group1 and %ABToFirstName for your group2 templates. This makes it easier to mutate changing addresses. In stead of finding out how many entries you've got with a changed address and then change them all now you've only got one to change. -- Groetjes, Roelof Ga Naar WINDOWS 95. Ga Niet Langs DOS. Ontvang Geen f 2,- http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDTNN1R9kwW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the best way to purge the Addressbook?
Can you simply make a new address book. Copy entries over (by dragging) and then deleting the old address book when you have finished. Then, re-name the new version to what you want. Trevor -- Monday, December 25, 2006, 7:34:54 AM, you wrote: CP Hello, CP I would like to clear my Personal addressbook and start from scratch. CP However, I want to save all the current data and then import CP selectively a few entries to a new Personal addressbook. CP I would like to not just delete the present entries from the CP addressbook, but to really remove them from the file (purge, CP compress). Is there a simple way to do this other than, say, by CP copying a clean addressbook to my current working directory, which I CP could take from a fresh installation of The Bat? Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the best way to purge the Addressbook?
Hello, Monday, December 25, 2006, 10:29:54 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): Can you simply make a new address book. Copy entries over (by dragging) and then deleting the old address book when you have finished. Then, re-name the new version to what you want. Thank you. I'll test it and see if the addressbook filesize will be reduced after deleting the old entries, indicating that they are not just marked as deleted, but are actually removed from the file. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the best way to purge the Addressbook?
Hallo Costas, On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:34:54 +0200GMT (25-12-2006, 8:34 , where I live), you wrote: CP I would like to not just delete the present entries from the CP addressbook, but to really remove them from the file (purge, CP compress). Is there a simple way to do this other than, say, by CP copying a clean addressbook to my current working directory, which I CP could take from a fresh installation of The Bat? You can either create a new AB, you don't to take that from a fresh install or you delete all superfluous entries from your and then you create a backup from your AB and restore it. (Backup and restore an AB has the effect of a compress action) -- Groetjes, Roelof [EMAIL PROTECTED], my hard drive crash ate my Tagline File... http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpHaHAGpMIdW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Weird addressbook problem
I have a template that includes the %ABToHandle in the %Subject field and also somewhere in the message body. I use this template to send emails to a small group of friends. For control purposes I added myself as a member of this group and therefore I also receive one email every time I send something to the group. Everything was working fine until today: The emails went out to everyone, and each email included the recipient's handle in the subject and in the message body. After doing some adjustments in the addressbook (adding, amending and deleting entries, including my own) I now find that although every recipient receives their emails properly formatted, I don't! The email that's addressed to me does not include my nickname (handle) either in the subject field or in the message body. What's frustrating is that this problem occurred a few weeks ago and I solved it. However, sadly I do not remember how I did solve it. I'm willing to live with this unsolved mystery, but is there a way to arrange to receive a single copy of every email that I send to the group? Including a BCC in my template wouldn't work, because as each email being sent is customized (containing the %ABToHandle macro in the subject) I would receive one copy per recipient, instead of a single copy of my outgoing emails to the group as a whole. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird addressbook problem
Hallo Costas, On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:20:36 +0200GMT (25-12-2006, 23:20 , where I live), you wrote: CP I have a template that includes the %ABToHandle in the %Subject field CP and also somewhere in the message body. I use this template to send CP emails to a small group of friends. For control purposes I added CP myself as a member of this group and therefore I also receive one CP email every time I send something to the group. You don't mention it with that many words, but I suppose you're using the mass mailing feature. CP Everything was working fine until today: The emails went out to CP everyone, and each email included the recipient's handle in the CP subject and in the message body. After doing some adjustments in the CP addressbook (adding, amending and deleting entries, including my own) CP I now find that although every recipient receives their emails CP properly formatted, I don't! The email that's addressed to me does not CP include my nickname (handle) either in the subject field or in the CP message body. When AB macros fail the most likely causes are either missing info in your AB or duplicate entries for the specified address. If I were I'd start to check the latter. CP I'm willing to live with this unsolved mystery, but is there a way to CP arrange to receive a single copy of every email that I send to the CP group? No, not with the mass mailing feature. I must admit though that I don't understand why you an additional copy for yourself, after all you've got all copies left in your sent messages folder. -- Groetjes, Roelof If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. - B Gates http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.95.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpfuZ7nDb6MP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird addressbook problem
Hello Roelof, Thank you for your reply. In answer to the first point in your reply, I am indeed using the mass mailing feature of The Bat. Regarding the possible causes of the error, it's true that I have duplicate entries in my Addressbook, if one counts as duplicates those entries that have the same email address, but are otherwise different (including having a different nickname (handle)). As for the copy of the email to be sent to me, I'll consider creating a webmail address and include it in the group of recipients. The reason that I wish to have this copy of the email message, is to indirectly check that my emails have been duly sent by my mail provider (ISP). The alternative of asking for a delivery report would create too much traffic for me. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What's the best way to purge the Addressbook?
Hello, I would like to clear my Personal addressbook and start from scratch. However, I want to save all the current data and then import selectively a few entries to a new Personal addressbook. I would like to not just delete the present entries from the addressbook, but to really remove them from the file (purge, compress). Is there a simple way to do this other than, say, by copying a clean addressbook to my current working directory, which I could take from a fresh installation of The Bat? -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello vitalie, On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:14:25 +0200 GMT (22/03/2006, 00:14 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: I also have a second AB, and when I create this in Voyager, it asks where to import from - but allows only EBD files. vv THAT is not an import per se; it's rather a prompt to point the vv location of the addrbook file to be used or created. Tell this to Windows - the window that opens is one of those that has a list of files, then one field where I can enter the filename manually (wildcards allowed), and then a drop-down box with pre-defined file types. In most Windows applications, the drop-down box has one option All files - *.* but not here. There is only one pre-defined file type, that Voyager Addressbooks - *.EBD or the something like that. That's it. -- Cheers, Thomas. The tides are a fight between the Earth and moon. All water tends towards the moon, because there is no water in the moon, and nature abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins in this fight. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hi, ,- - [ Le jeudi 23 mars 2006 vers 14:01 Thomas Fernandez écrivait: ] - - | Aha? I thought that my windows positions are being remembered across computers. Not a real good idea... open your voyager on my computer, i have two screens, and the main one on the right side, your windows position will probably be outside of the screen when you go to another computer with only one screen... | `- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- Best regards... _ (_' L'informatique est ma passion, vous la simplifier, mon métier ! ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello Stephane, On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:02:37 +0100 GMT (25/03/2006, 17:02 +0700 GMT), Stephane Bouvard [ML] wrote: Aha? I thought that my windows positions are being remembered across computers. SBM Not a real good idea... open your voyager on my computer, i have two SBM screens, and the main one on the right side, your windows position will SBM probably be outside of the screen when you go to another computer with SBM only one screen... Yes, I saw that the ticker seemed to be somewhere else in a computer with another resolution. But on computers with the same resolution as mine, all seems to be where I moved it to. Not really important, as I have no problem. I was just curious. -- Cheers, Thomas. FLATULANCE: Emergency vehicle that picks you up when you've been run over by a steam roller http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello vitalie, On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:35:04 +0200 GMT (23/03/2006, 03:35 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: BTW: Does it still write to the registry? If I use the stick on someone else's PC, will it leave any traces there (temp files -registry)? vv registry - non-harmful things like window positions. Aha? I thought that my windows positions are being remembered across computers. -- Cheers, Thomas. Sign in a restaurant: Courteous and efficient self-service. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello Alexander, On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:38:37 +0100 GMT (21/03/2006, 23:38 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: How do I go about? The AB in Voyager is empty, so an overwrite would be OK. ASK Backup Restore only the AB. This worked. Thanks a lot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Cadix liegt auf einer Insel, und vermittels einer Brucke hangt das feste Land mit dem Meere zusammen. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello vitalie, On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:14:25 +0200 GMT (22/03/2006, 00:14 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: I also have a second AB, and when I create this in Voyager, it asks where to import from - but allows only EBD files. vv THAT is not an import per se; it's rather a prompt to point the vv location of the addrbook file to be used or created. Hm. I used the Import function in the AB window, and it worked this way for importing the default addressbook. What do you mean by the location of the addressbook to be used? The problem has been solved by backing up and restoring the second AB, but I didn't need to do that for the default AB. I sense at least some inconsistency here. -- Cheers, Thomas. The real question for 1988 is whether we're going to go forward to tomorrow or past to the--to the back! --V.P. Dan Quayle. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
hi, Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 9:49:21 PM, you wrote: I'll buy me another one and try to install Voyager. But I'll have to take the time to read how to install it (can I copy all the settings of my regular version?) and think about a strategy for using it. depends on the type of the account. no problems at all with IMAP and keep messages on server for N days for POP3, where N is no less than the period of your backups. simple filecopying is sufficient for the backup/restoral, but you'll have to activate it again if restored to a filesystem with a different ID. BTW: Does it still write to the registry? If I use the stick on someone else's PC, will it leave any traces there (temp files -registry)? registry - non-harmful things like window positions. temp files - yes, if content is passed to external apps. and we can't predict anything further, as it's not only app-dependant, but environment-dependant too (like filesystem activity monitoring and content-intercepting tools). -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
hi, Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 4:06:42 PM, you wrote: (Voyager rulez! I take it with me on trips now. Very convenient.) glad you liked it. I don't use OTFE on the computers, but obviously Voyager does. I now want to copy my private ABs from the home computer to Voyager. A simple file copy won't work, due to the different formats. How do I go about? The AB in Voyager is empty, so an overwrite would be OK. try an import from ABD files (unencrypted addrbooks). -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello TBUDL, My setup is now that I have TB Pro both in the office and at home. However, I don't want my private mails on the office computer, so I use Voyager in the office, which checks my private accounts. (Voyager rulez! I take it with me on trips now. Very convenient.) I don't use OTFE on the computers, but obviously Voyager does. I now want to copy my private ABs from the home computer to Voyager. A simple file copy won't work, due to the different formats. How do I go about? The AB in Voyager is empty, so an overwrite would be OK. -- Best regards, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello vitalie, On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:43:16 +0200 GMT (21/03/2006, 21:43 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: How do I go about? The AB in Voyager is empty, so an overwrite would be OK. vv try an import from ABD files (unencrypted addrbooks). Great, this worked for the default AB. Including Favourites. Thanks. I also have a second AB, and when I create this in Voyager, it asks where to import from - but allows only EBD files. When navigating to the appropriate directory on my HD and keying in *.abd, the desired AB will be shown, but cannot be imported into Voyager. E:/.../*.abd already exist, overwrite? E: is on my HD, the USB stick is F:. -- Cheers, Thomas. If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello vitalie, Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 3:43:16 PM, you wrote: (Voyager rulez! I take it with me on trips now. Very convenient.) vv glad you liked it. But I still don't know if memorysticks are designed for so much rewriting... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 21-Mrz-2006 at 15:06 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: How do I go about? The AB in Voyager is empty, so an overwrite would be OK. Backup Restore only the AB. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) In order to form an immaculate member of a flock of sheep one must, above all, be a sheep. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 21-Mrz-2006 at 15:06 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: I use Voyager in the office, which checks my private accounts. You have free access to POP3 and SMTP ports from a workstation computer in the office? You're lucky... and your system administrator should be fired. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Matilda's Sub-Committee Law: If you leave the room, you're elected. Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
hi, Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 5:24:46 PM, you wrote: (Voyager rulez! I take it with me on trips now. Very convenient.) vv glad you liked it. But I still don't know if memorysticks are designed for so much rewriting... it's more probably that the stick will rather get stolen, broken, or gave as a present, than it'll roun outta cycles. had a whole bunch of them in the past and only one of them ended up like that; all of the rest were broken/lost/gifted. -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
hi, Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 5:07:30 PM, you wrote: I also have a second AB, and when I create this in Voyager, it asks where to import from - but allows only EBD files. THAT is not an import per se; it's rather a prompt to point the location of the addrbook file to be used or created. -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying addressbook from non-OTFE to OTFE
Hello vitalie, Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 6:10:21 PM, you wrote: But I still don't know if memorysticks are designed for so much rewriting... vv it's more probably that the stick will rather get stolen, broken, or vv gave as a present, than it'll roun outta cycles. vv had a whole bunch of them in the past and only one of them ended up like vv that; all of the rest were broken/lost/gifted. Didn't have a whole bunch yet. 'till now I've had 4. 2 stopped working 1 got lost (I can't find it, that is, but it must be here in the office) 1 is still working (the one I thought would be the first to die because it looks more like a gadget: it's part of a ballpoint). I'll buy me another one and try to install Voyager. But I'll have to take the time to read how to install it (can I copy all the settings of my regular version?) and think about a strategy for using it. BTW: Does it still write to the registry? If I use the stick on someone else's PC, will it leave any traces there (temp files -registry)? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.72.04 (Beta) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
Hello wonderful George Mitchell, den 25 augusti 2005, 19:01:13, du skrev: GM qe3ee wrote: q In New Message i pasted: q %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,) GM So you want to use the VAT info in the body of outgoing messages, GM correct? GM Try putting: GM %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,)%- GM in a QT called vat. Then compose a message to someone who you've GM added the vat item to the AB memo. In the body of the email type GM vat (without the quotes) and press Ctrl+Space. The vat should be GM replaced by the value of the memo item. GM If this works, then you can add this to the appropriate message GM templates if you want to automatically generate output. What is the GM output you're looking for? q In memo I pasted the VAT number and the VAT=yes code: VAT, q SE1234567890 (not a real VATnumber) GM Are you going to want to use the VAT number programmatically as well? q I would be most greatful if this could be practicaly usable. GM Hopefully we can get it working. Unfortunately, I don't have a v2 TB! GM handy to test with so if there are v2 vs. v3 differences it could get GM sticky. Peace! version 3.5 seems to work better with this kind of information filtering than the bat v2.12. :P :P The code works great! The Bat 2.12 may show the content of memo in new messages aswell. I got it to work but only by using a separate QT for every separate post in TB AB. :( The code from George and friends are more universal. :star: -- kind regards, qe3ee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E fructu arbor cognoscitur 16:14:28 den 29 augusti 2005 --- The Bat! v3.51.10 Windows XP.5.1.2600 if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
Hi, ,- - [ Le jeudi 25 août 2005 vers 14:08 qe3ee écrivait: ] - - | In memo I pasted the VAT number and the VAT=yes code: VAT, SE1234567890 (not a real VATnumber) VAT=yes | `- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - In your memo, use VAT=SE1234567890 -- Best regards... _ (_' ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be -- _ _ |_)(_ Votre propre nom de domaine .be - service de qualité - 25 Euros o|_)(_ Hosting php4/cgi/mySQL - 100 Euros, pq payer plus ? www.myown.be Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
Hi, ,- - [ Le mercredi 24 août 2005 vers 20:13 qe3ee écrivait: ] - - | Another drawback I have encountered is the lack of database driven e-mail archive. The huge amount of data that need to accessed to form various part of ... A database had made the archiving and accessing of year old messages easier. | `- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TheBat use databases to store their messages... It just use his own format of database. You can create archive folders and move old messages to those folders, and just opening those folders when you need them... -- Best regards... _ (_' ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be -- _ _ |_)(_ Votre propre nom de domaine .be - service de qualité - 25 Euros o|_)(_ Hosting php4/cgi/mySQL - 100 Euros, pq payer plus ? www.myown.be Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
Hello wonderful George Mitchell, den 24 augusti 2005, 21:58:37, du skrev: GM qe3ee wrote: q A small question: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 q Addressbook GM snip q OR is there a smart way to create new formfields in the addressbook? GM You could always use the address book memo field. If you need to GM access the value programmatically, the following QT might help. I GM *think* it uses a syntax available in v2, but I'm not 100% sure. This GM QT is a generalization of a technique I saw used by Robin Anson. It GM allows you to specify INI file like key/value pairs in the AB memo GM field. In your case, you might have a line like: GM VAT=yes GM It can occur anywhere in the field - I put them at the end. The QT to GM access it is as follows (call it ab_memo_item): GM %Rem( Usage: %QInclude(ab_memo_item,item_name,default_value))%- GM %- GM %SetPattRegExp((?im)^%_1\s*=\s*(.*?)\s*$)%- GM %RegExpBlindMatch(%ABToMemo)%- GM %_ABI_Value=%SubPatt(1)%- GM %If:%_ABI_Value%- GM :%_ABI_Value%- GM :%_2%- GM To get the value, you could use something like: GM %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,) GM or GM %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,no) GM As written, the QT uses the AB entry for the To field of new messages GM or replies. You might have to change the ABToMemo to something else GM to use it in another context. GM I use this technique to customize my signature for certain GM individuals. My Friends AB group message templates contain the GM line: GM %QInclude(%QInclude(ab_memo_item,sig,default_sig))%- GM I have a QT called default_sig that contains my normal signature. For GM any individual I want to use a different signature for, I include a GM line in the memo field of that person's AB entry that names a specific GM signature QT, such as: GM sig=tagline_sig GM I hope this makes sense. Thankyou George! GM I hope this makes sense. Partly! In New Message i pasted: %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,) In QT named ab_memo_item I pasted: %Rem( Usage: %QInclude(ab_memo_item,item_name,default_value))%-%- %SetPattRegExp((?im)^%_1\s*=\s*(.*?)\s*$)%- %RegExpBlindMatch(%ABToMemo)%- %_ABI_Value=%SubPatt(1)%- %If:%_ABI_Value%- :%_ABI_Value%- :%_2%- In memo I pasted the VAT number and the VAT=yes code: VAT, SE1234567890 (not a real VATnumber) VAT=yes Result no output in New Message -Sorry! I would be most greatful if this could be practicaly usable. -- kind regards, qe3ee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E fructu arbor cognoscitur if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
qe3ee wrote: q In New Message i pasted: q %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,) So you want to use the VAT info in the body of outgoing messages, correct? Try putting: %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,)%- in a QT called vat. Then compose a message to someone who you've added the vat item to the AB memo. In the body of the email type vat (without the quotes) and press Ctrl+Space. The vat should be replaced by the value of the memo item. If this works, then you can add this to the appropriate message templates if you want to automatically generate output. What is the output you're looking for? q In memo I pasted the VAT number and the VAT=yes code: VAT, q SE1234567890 (not a real VATnumber) Are you going to want to use the VAT number programmatically as well? q I would be most greatful if this could be practicaly usable. Hopefully we can get it working. Unfortunately, I don't have a v2 TB! handy to test with so if there are v2 vs. v3 differences it could get sticky. -- George Using The Bat! 3.60.03 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
Hello wonderful tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com, A little wicked: A small question: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook or have the citizens of the Black Sea Republic Moldova still not recogniced the impractical absence of addressbooks for business verion software without VAT fields? The onest truth: As I'm in the start for puting up my own business I have come across the bysantian rule that I'm for the state not the othe way around therefore I'm looking for a more complete e-mail software. Im considering changing to a better and more complete software than the present The Bat! version 2.12 I'm using. OR is there a smart way to create new formfields in the addressbook? I've come to like The Bat! quite alot even though it doesn't use a database for saving information - which in my opinion would be the best choice -- kind regards, qe3ee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E fructu arbor cognoscitur 16:04:00 den 24 augusti 2005 --- The Bat! v2.12.04 Windows XP.5.1.2600 if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
Dear Qe3ee, @24-Aug-2005, 16:19 +0200 (24-Aug 15:19 UK time) qe3ee [Q] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Q A small question: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook ... snip No, but there are a huge abundance of addressbook fields, any one of which can be recycled as VAT. I use mine in many various ways. The Home Fax number field is used as a Personalise signature to this person. Other fields are similarly recycled throughout the record. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpCgCiUpcw9C.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
Hello wonderful Marck D Pearlstone, den 24 augusti 2005, 16:26:43, du skrev: MDP Dear Qe3ee, MDP @24-Aug-2005, 16:19 +0200 (24-Aug 15:19 UK time) qe3ee [Q] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Q A small question: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook MDP ... snip MDP No, but there are a huge abundance of addressbook fields, any one of MDP which can be recycled as VAT. I use mine in many various ways. The MDP Home Fax number field is used as a Personalise signature to this MDP person. Other fields are similarly recycled throughout the record. Nice temporary solution! Will try to some laborations on the addressbook. Thanks! However I here give you and the group this message I wrote to Contact at The Bat homepage (I hope they will read it): -Begin Message to Contact- Hello Contact! I have written to tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com about the use for a VAT field in the bat addressbook. I got a suggestion how to solve this problem from Mark D. Pearlstone: Use some other unused formfield! I feel that this is highly inadequate for the professional/business version of the bat, as that makes it no more than a student toy than a real business software. If there was a way to create new forms in the addressbook it would be even nicer as it could be customizable for different purposes. Another drawback I have encountered is the lack of database driven e-mail archive. The huge amount of data that need to accessed to form various part of projects and similare communication intensive activities simply cannot be keept in a compressed filearchive without negative impact on the client performance, I've got right now 3rd quarter of 2005 I have 189000 messages since 1 jan 2005! A database had made the archiving and accessing of year old messages easier. Right now every year has to be unpacked and searched through when i want to access a single mail from a certain mailer/source. A database could be told to just open the mails in the bat up til a certain date as standard. The rest could be marked as archived, but still accessable if needed! Much more complicated programaticaly but not totaly unachivable! I have the urgent use for this improvement as I'm just in a startup process for a privat company. I'm not any more a private person as you may understand. I have kind of grown toghether with the bat and would not like to change it for some other client as i have come to like it to much. Kindly yours qe3ee -End Message to Contact--- -- kind regards, qe3ee mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E fructu arbor cognoscitur if this mail has a virus please throw it away and notify me :) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 Addressbook
qe3ee wrote: q A small question: Is there a VAT field in The Bat! v3.5 q Addressbook snip q OR is there a smart way to create new formfields in the addressbook? You could always use the address book memo field. If you need to access the value programmatically, the following QT might help. I *think* it uses a syntax available in v2, but I'm not 100% sure. This QT is a generalization of a technique I saw used by Robin Anson. It allows you to specify INI file like key/value pairs in the AB memo field. In your case, you might have a line like: VAT=yes It can occur anywhere in the field - I put them at the end. The QT to access it is as follows (call it ab_memo_item): %Rem( Usage: %QInclude(ab_memo_item,item_name,default_value))%- %- %SetPattRegExp((?im)^%_1\s*=\s*(.*?)\s*$)%- %RegExpBlindMatch(%ABToMemo)%- %_ABI_Value=%SubPatt(1)%- %If:%_ABI_Value%- :%_ABI_Value%- :%_2%- To get the value, you could use something like: %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,) or %QInclude(ab_memo_item,VAT,no) As written, the QT uses the AB entry for the To field of new messages or replies. You might have to change the ABToMemo to something else to use it in another context. I use this technique to customize my signature for certain individuals. My Friends AB group message templates contain the line: %QInclude(%QInclude(ab_memo_item,sig,default_sig))%- I have a QT called default_sig that contains my normal signature. For any individual I want to use a different signature for, I include a line in the memo field of that person's AB entry that names a specific signature QT, such as: sig=tagline_sig I hope this makes sense. -- George Using The Bat! 3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
%AB Macros and Addressbook filter question
Hi All, I noticed that I was getting mail to me but that my name wasn't in the original TO or was misspelled. I cam up with this. It makes sure that the sender is consistent, and that the right alias return address is used. %FROM='%ABOTOHandle %OTOADDR' But this led me to these thoughts: Is there an easier or more logical way to do this? Is there no display name AB key word or similar that would insert the entry as it would if manually selected from the address book (might be handy when sending mail too). Right now, I take the display name and have to copy it over to the handle, but if I change something in the address book, I need to update the handle as well... How does the default address filter decide how to add addresses? Is there a better way than the default one, which seems to do add every combo of name even though the e-mail addy is obviously already in there. -- Thanks, Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. --Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to export addressbook while preserving groups
Dear Speedguy, @11-Dec-2004, 17:32 +0200 (11-Dec 15:32 UK time) Nav [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: S Is it possible to export complete addressbook in some format (which?), S so that contact groups are preserved. S Essentially, enabling to import to other mail client mapping S groups-Mailing lists. LDIF format includes group membership information. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpIv5Mq9nuON.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to export addressbook while preserving groups
Is it possible to export complete addressbook in some format (which?), so that contact groups are preserved. Essentially, enabling to import to other mail client mapping groups-Mailing lists. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
