Re: Nickname (Handle)
Hello Sergey, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 6:47:23 AM, you wrote: SK Moreover, I can assume that the combined characters SK Ed's e-mail client or web browser might not recognize letters pasted SK from the Cyrillic charset. But this should be a problem! This solution works for you, because you encode your mails to your Russian friends in a Cyrillic charset which includes the Latin letters as well. But Rich most probably encodes Western or even not at all (=US-ASCII). And a Cyrillic letter which might look like a Latin letter (if correctly encoded) turns out nonsense (if not correctly encoded). Ed will look like this with a Cyrillic E encoded US-ASCII: Åd And if you use it as a handle in the AB, this letter might even get in you headers, and normally you should not have 8-bit characters there. If TB could encode UTF-8 all this would become (a little) easier! -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
Hello DW, Monday, June 7, 2004, 11:58:56 PM, you wrote: DS Any ideas on how to repair this folder's message base? The TBB file DS is 528k, but I haven't put any limits on the number of messages that DS can be stored in this folder... nor have I ever purged it. Try to delete the .TBI file - it seems like it's damaged... -- Cheers! Stefan pgpquO3wyf9p5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BayesIt
Hello TBUDL, I'm trying to get the latest BayesIt (0,5), according to the website it's part of the latest TheBat distro but I havent been able to find it. Can someone point me in the right direction -- thanks, Graham mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nickname (Handle)
On Wed 9 June 2004, 11:31:54 +1000, Sergey Kalabekov wrote: I believe The Bat! won't allow duplicate handles because it uses them to for easy access to a contact's e-mail address. Try to create a new message and put someone's handle in the To: line. Then press Tab. I should fill in the To: line with the contact's full name (if there is one) and an e-mail address. But you can have duplicate nicknames as long as they are not in the same address book. The process you describe above seems to find the address in the first address book (listed alphabetically). -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ben, On 09 June 2004, 00:33 Ben Allen [BA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Oldest message begins thread - see Options | Preferences | Martin Messages subject/from/to. However, I get what you want when Martin threading by reference. BA Sorry i wasn't clear. I do thread by reference. i then sort the BA threads by subject. what i am trying to do is get the oldest message BA at the top what i seem to be getting is that whilst the first message BA will be a the the bottom of the thread tree, it will then go to the BA newest - oldest in the tree from that, i want it the opposite way and BA i cant seem to do that, the option you suggested is already checked. BA You as confused as me? Yes, a little. If you thread by reference the option I suggested is redundant... it's for threading by Subject/From/To only. I simply thread by reference and display the message list by received date in descending order. I'm not sure what you mean by 'sorting' the threads. For instance, this thread is displayed toward the bottom of my message list in the following order: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:50 Re: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:59 Re[2]: View mode... 07:45 (today) Is that how you want to display threads? - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMbAIzknq5PWREYNEQKCxgCgg3cwiA571AygWKqXa4tCMnwY/GgAnjGC MCYsx+/MNipCTZbO4jykH0hN =X5Cr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailbox checking
Hallo Code, On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:20:16 -0700GMT (9-6-2004, 2:20 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C2 In the interest of minimizing the load on my ISP, is there a way to C2 override or work around the mailbox checking settings in Account C2 Properties based on the time of day? In account properties you have to uncheck 'Periodical checking' Go to TB's scheduler (Tools - Scheduler) Create a new task in 'repeating tasks' (In the field with tasks: right mouse button - new) Set as action 'send check mail' Recurrence: 1 day Advanced: Set the time scheme you'd like to use Note: In the past the scheduler was a tad buggy and as I've never used it for real tasks, I don't know how it functions now. If somehow TB's scheduler fails to produce, you could use Windows's Scheduler to achieve the same. Set the command to execute as path\thebat.exe /check* In the advanced properties of the task go to 'scheme' go to the next level of advanced and you can insert a scheme as you discribed. For myself I'd try TB's scheduler first, but YMMV -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nickname (Handle)
Hallo Terry,
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 16:31:06 -0700GMT (9-6-2004, 1:31 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
TGM The problem is when there are two or more Jims I get a duplicate handle error.
You could use another AB field than the nickname, as the nickname is
used as handle too. If you don't use the NamePrefix ('Personal' tab)
you could use that to store nicknames, then you'd use:
%ABToNamePrefix=%ToFName
--
Groetjes, Roelof
Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies
or rabbits.
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Subfolders using main folder properties...
Hæ! Meanwhile I getting quite tired when creating subfolders within a mainfolder to recreate the main folder properties (templates, identity etc.) for each subfolder. Is there an easy solution so the subfolders use the same templates and identity as their main folder? I am asking this because I use a lot of filters for my ebaystuff which filter specific messages to specific folders: ebay |- Overview |- Search |- Bids |- Bought |- Sold |- Ebay-Invoices |- etc. etc. I want each subfolder to use the properties of /ebay. -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v2.11.02 without BayesIt on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4] Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subfolders using main folder properties...
Thorvald Neumann wrote: Is there an easy solution so the subfolders use the same templates and identity as their main folder? I am asking this because I use a lot of filters for my ebaystuff which filter specific messages to specific folders: ebay |- Overview |- Search ... |- etc. etc. I want each subfolder to use the properties of /ebay. You could put all your ebay stuff into the ebay folder and recreate the subfolders as virtual folders. That might simplify your filters too. -- George Using The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP Pro 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Hello Allie, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 8:58:22 AM, you wrote: AM Sl, [S] wrote: S On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again S Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. snipola AM I think my having to use ThunderBird has been misunderstood. AM There are many features in TB! that ThunderBird lacks and I don't see AM them as nice features to just have anyway. snipola AM I'd never really entertain comparing the two once you're up and going AM with reading mail as I now am with TB! at work. Now that TB!'s IMAP AM works well enough for me to read mail from work, the thought of using AM ThunderBird is now laughable. They simply don't compare once we get AM beyond basic fetching and reading of messages. So, I take it you prefer The Bat over T-Bird ;-) [Seriously tho...ta for your thoughts.. ] -- Regards, Steve Love (basic fetcher and reader ;-) 20:18 Wednesday, 9 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB And Loss Of Internet Connection
Hey guys, Here's a poser for you all. Every so often (in fact probably 2 or 3 times a day) my machine loses it's network connections, both internal (LAN) and external (Internet) and I cannot even send an e-mail from TB to my local mailserver (on my PC) - get the message cannot connect to the server. I am on an ADSL connection. None of the usual diagnostic routines throw up any clues and none of the usual things I try in this situation seem to work. But what fixes it every time is shutting down TB, at which point the network is restored and I can open up TB again and continue on my merry way. I haven't yet had time to delve more closely into this and presume no one else is having the same problem as I've seen no posts about it, but if anyone has any clues as to what's going on here... -- Many thanks Steve Mulhall CMC Partnership (UK) Ltd The Bat version 2.11 Windows 2000 SP3 Build 2195 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter by thread automatically
I would like to be able to automatically thread a child message to wherever its parent message may be in my message base. Is this possible in general? Is it possible even if the parent is in a common folder rather than a virtual folder? Using 2.11 on WinXP Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New mail, use account
Hi TheBat! Support. Question; Can i make this work. When sending new mail to specific group, use then a specific mail account ?? Best Greetings Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Subjects
...) , Subjects -- . . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 2.01Windows XP SP 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nickname (Handle)
On Wed 9 June 2004, 18:13:09 +1000, Roelof Otten wrote:
You could use another AB field than the nickname, as the nickname is
used as handle too. If you don't use the NamePrefix ('Personal' tab)
you could use that to store nicknames, then you'd use:
%ABToNamePrefix=%ToFName
Here is another solution.
I have started to use the memo field for indicating lots of things about
particular individuals. I use it to indicate particular signatures that
I need to use for particular individuals (for work purposes). I use it to
automatically set read and/or delivery receipts for particular
individuals, and I have been helping Cyrille to use it to identify the
language template that should be used for a particular individual.
You can use the same memo field to carry out one or more of these
functions. The convention I use it to have a separate line in the memo
field for each of these. The line takes the form (without the quotes):
attribute: value
For instance as I use it, an individuals memo field may look like this:
receipts: read delivery
sig: consultant
aka: Jules
which would tell my templates to set both delivery and read receipts, use
the signature defined in my sig_consultant QT and use Jules as the
person's nickname.
In particular, you can address the person correctly using the following
QT
[ To_Name QT ]
%_To_NN=%SetPattRegexp='(?im)^aka:\s*(.*?)$'%RegExpMatch='%ABToMemo'%-
%If:'%_To_NN'''%-
:'%_To_Name=%_To_NN'%-
:'%_To_Name=%Capital(%ABToFirstName=^%ToFName^)'%-
[ End To_Name QT ]
Then start your message template with
%QInclude(To_Name)
This will use the nickname defined a the line of the form (without quotes)
aka: nickname
anywhere in the person's memo field. If there is no such line, it will
use the person's first name from their address book entry, and if that
doesn't exist, it will use the first name from their email address.
--
Robin Anson
Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
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Re: Nickname (Handle)
On Wed 9 June 2004, 22:30:24 +1000, Robin Anson wrote: [ To_Name QT ] %_To_NN=%SetPattRegexp='(?im)^aka:\s*(.*?)$'%RegExpMatch='%ABToMemo'%- %If:'%_To_NN'''%- :'%_To_Name=%_To_NN'%- :'%_To_Name=%Capital(%ABToFirstName=^%ToFName^)'%- [ End To_Name QT ] And I forgot to add the last line to the QT, which is %_To_Name So it should read [ To_Name QT ] %_To_NN=%SetPattRegexp='(?im)^aka:\s*(.*?)$'%RegExpMatch='%ABToMemo'%- %If:'%_To_NN'''%- :'%_To_Name=%_To_NN'%- :'%_To_Name=%Capital(%ABToFirstName=^%ToFName^)'%- %_To_Name [ End To_Name QT ] Apologies if I confused anyone. I cut it out of a much larger QT that I use that puts multiple names on the greeting line. The older version of that QT, which used the nickname field as Terry wanted to do, is in the The Bat! QT library as Greet_All_Recipients. I will update it shortly with this new variation. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
UnRegister
...) , UnRegister -- . . mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 2.01Windows XP SP 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New mail, use account
Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:06:30 +0200 (8:06 AM EDT here) VenimK wrote: Can i make this work. When sending new mail to specific group, use then a specific mail account ?? Let's assume that you have already set up the specific mail account in TheBat!. Let's assume you've given the account the Account name: SpecificAccount. Let's assume you've already set up the specific group in a TheBat! address book. Let's assume you've given the account the Account name: SpecificAccount. 1. In the TheBat! Address Book, find and highlight SpecificGroup in the list (on your left). 2. Right click and SpecificGroup 2a. Left click Properties. 3. In turn, left click the New Message, Reply, and Forward tabs. 4. When you select each tab: 4a. Check Use group-specific template. 4b. Generate (or copy: CTRL-Insert, and paste: Shift-Insert) the template. 4c. Put the following line at the top of the template: %Account=SpecificAccount Using: The Bat! v2.10.03, BayesIt! 0.5.4, MyMacros 1.10 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:07:46 +0200 (3:07 AM EDT here) Graham Dodd wrote: Hello TBUDL, I'm trying to get the latest BayesIt (0,5), according to the website it's part of the latest TheBat distro but I havent been able to find it. For what it's woorth, the path in my directory structure is: C:\Program Files\The Bat\BayesIt Using: The Bat! v2.10.03, BayesIt! 0.5.4, MyMacros 1.10 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
Tue, 8 Jun 2004 19:52:01 -0500 (8:52 PM EDT here) Jonathan Angliss wrote: On Tuesday, June 08, 2004, Leif Gregory wrote... Duane ...and I've turned on Regular Expressions under the Options. Don't need the Regular Expressions. That'll break it. Would do in this example, Duane put Reply-To:.*TBUDL The .* wouldn't match anything if regular expressions were off, so it'd try to find the string: Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Which it wouldn't find. But as others have suggested, just use the same string, but without the .*... Unless the normal filter can do wild card matching without regex enabled... If so, I missed it. For what it's worth, this works for me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | in the Kludges | Yes Using: The Bat! v2.10.03, BayesIt! 0.5.4, MyMacros 1.10 Windows 2000 v5.0 - Build 2195 - Service Pack 4 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
keyboard shortcuts for to: cc: bcc: subject: message headers?
Hi Everyone, Is there a key-combination to highlight any of the To: Cc: Bcc: Subject: header lines without having to tab forward and backward? For instance, suppose I am typing an address and then want to erase the whole thing quickly. Is there a keyboard command for delete line in that part of the window? Thanks, Arthur -- SecureBat! Lite 2.10.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
extra lines
Hi Bat users, can any one plz tell me how to remove extra lines from my replies. my reply template is like this Dear %TOFNAME%- %CURSOR%- Best Regards Hasan %QUOTES%- A strange thing is that after the thread reaches 3 replies, the original message has 3 line spaces(Which is at the bottom), the 2nd message has 2 line spaces and so on. Not only in my messages but also in the replies I get from others. -- Hasan Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail Filtering
Hello Jonathan, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 6:52:01 PM, you wrote: Jonathan Would do in this example, Duane put Jonathan Reply-To:.*TBUDL The .* Whoops. Musta not been paying too close attention. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Stupidity got me into this mess, why can't it get me out? Using The Bat! 2.11.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Error message from Help screen
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 10:47:52 PM, Maggie wrote: M Despite enjoying the ability to select and drag text around the M window to different areas and all the other wonderful editing bells M and whistles, I have decided to continue to use the old reliable M MicroEd. I had not realized that the other editors did not wrap the M text the way I created it, wrapping to the window instead. I too have settled on MicroEd because it it mostly what you see is what everybody gets with a few exceptions. Being the lowest common denominator among editors in TB! can be a plus. M There will be emails where I use the new features (Tables! M Italics!) but not many, and not to this List for sure. 8-)) and not to this List for sure. 8-)) Good decision. :-) -- Regards, Plan9 Take care of luxuries and the necessities will take care of themselves. -Dorothy Parker Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Common folders have left the building ... :-(
Hello, after having some trouble with my my Windows installation and file system repairs with chkdsk, all my common folders are suddenly gone! They are still on the disk, I can even import messages through the import function, but they are not shown in TB. Whenever I recreate them, the next time I restart TB they will be gone again. Any idea what may be wrong? Take care, Andreas -- My homepage: www.andreas-schwartmann.de/home | ICQ#: 23060752 PGP 8.0 key: www.andreas-schwartmann.de/pubring.pkr - Mailed with The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2, v.2096 - Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! attachment display settings?
Hello fellow tbudl subscribers! Attachments received stopped displaying for me in TB! v. 2.00.6 yesterday. I had changed no settings. There had been no problems with a double-click for jpegs and docs previously, or with the right-click Open menu choice. 1) Now this does nothing--it's as if I had not tried to open the attachments at all. This started happening after a cousin sent me an attachment from a Mac--possibly a .tiff format, but the icon says .jpg, so we think she converted to .jpg before sending. So the two of us thought perhaps it was a Mac-Windows incompatibility. 2) However, this morning jpegs from my sister on Win98SE did nothing. 3) So I went back to old messages, and attachments that had formerly opened with a double-click did nothing. 4) All these attachments can be viewed when Saved to Desktop. There the icon is a Gimp icon, and each opens as always with a click (irrelevant, but I have my Desktop set to single-click). 5) So, I thought--well, maybe something in TB! is corrupted. So I downloaded v. 2.11.02 from the RitLabs site. Went smooth as silk. I really do like the new version. 6) I have no plug-ins installed. My anti-virus program is F-Secure, and it makes no objection to my opening the attachments from the Desktop. 7) My firewall is Tiny Personal Firewall, v. 4.0 and it has never made any objection to opening attachments. (BTW, I viewed the smileys without problems. :) ) But I still can no longer open my received attachments, except by saving them to Desktop. Can anyone help me fix this? Much appreciation in advance! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New mail, use account
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, VenimK wrote: Can i make this work. When sending new mail to specific group, use then a specific mail account ?? Yes, add the %ACCOUNT macro to the groups New Message tab in your address book. Like this: Hej %ABtoFirstName %Cursor -- Urban %ACCOUNT=Urban -- Urban When a singer sings, he stirs up the air and makes it hit any passing eardrums. But if he is good, he knows how to keep it from hurting. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB And Loss Of Internet Connection
Hi rich Assuming others on your LAN are not having the same problem maybe it's time for your annual re-install of Windows! Yeah, no one else is having this problem. Re-install Windows? My god. Clearly hoped it wouldn't come to that as it represents a logistical nightmare (as I'm sure you appreciate) as the machine acts as a pseudo server to the rest of the machines on the LAN and as such, contains all our company documents etc, mail server, act as a print server etc. Still, I'm due to be leaving the company next week so can probably get away with leaving (ignoring) it. -- Cheers Steve CMC Partnership (UK) Ltd The Bat version 2.11 Windows 2000 SP3 Build 2195 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Mary, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:37:49 -0500GMT(09.06.2004, 16:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: But I still can no longer open my received attachments, except by saving them to Desktop. did you check options/preferences/protection? There is a field 'disable opening of these files'. -- Kind Regards Feli The Bat! 2.11.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 09:37 -0500 (09/06/200415:37 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB Attachments received stopped displaying for me in TB! v. 2.00.6 MB yesterday. I had changed no settings. There had been no problems with MB a double-click for jpegs and docs previously, or with the right-click MB Open menu choice. ...snip MB Can anyone help me fix this? Much appreciation in advance! Just a suggestion... right-click in the image pane and click on 'View | Hide (to Button)'. Now click on the new attachment button and see if the default action is 'Open'. You could try changing the settings before returning back to the image pane view; i.e. Hide (to Pane). - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMcyKDknq5PWREYNEQIPXACaAg/FwzAwZx+wXlb3yaoAMLtAvokAoKAs ypV7DtlICZSVYKAua2bRt/aB =dLhG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What about creating a batpost mailing list ?
Hi tbudler, For those who are currently testing, willing to test or simply using batpost, what do you think of creating a batpost mailing list ? According to me it would be very interesting especially since Ritlabs abandonned the forums !!! Give me your thoughts ? What do ritlabs' folks think ? and the other moderators of various lists ? -- Greetings, Claude Renaud Secure Bat! v2.10.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Hello Cyrille, On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 23:49:43 +0200 GMT (07/06/2004, 04:49 +0700 GMT), Cyrille wrote: C What do you mean with manually? I use it in QT. C And I see it in many places at the end, and not at the beginning of a line. Let's say your QT looks like this: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo %TFName %Cursor %Quotes Do you see how behind each line is a newline character? You have manually entered it. After the first line you definitely don't want a newline character, as there would be a blank line at the beginning of the mail. So you add %- at the end: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- and the word Hallo is in the first line of the reply. C Where do I find more explanation about this particular expression in the help file? Help / Index / Macros / Full alphabetic list / Dash macro. No! It's gone! :-( Also, the Help window doesn't scroll with the scroll wheel. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Hypnotophobie: Angst vor dem Bettenmachen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 10:52 AM, you wrote: MB Attachments received stopped displaying for me in TB! v. 2.00.6 MB yesterday. I had changed no settings. There had been no problems with MB a double-click for jpegs and docs previously, or with the right-click MB Open menu choice. snip MW Just a suggestion... right-click in the image pane and click on 'View | MW Hide (to Button)'. Now click on the new attachment button and see if the MW default action is 'Open'. You could try changing the settings before MW returning back to the image pane view; i.e. Hide (to Pane). Did both of these, following your instructions above. No help. The default action is Open, but the file will not display from within TB! Only if saved elsewhere. In an archive search, the only thing I turned up was something about a registry key. But these keys are not in my registry. Must be something to do only with v. 1.45 and others in the year 2000: Begin copy-and-paste: On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:41:04 -0700GMT NA I have my Options set so _no_ attachments can be opened in TB!, NA but for the life of me, I cannot remember where I set that Option NA from? ... it's in the registry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! keys: ProtectAllowOpen ProtectDisableOpen ProtectWarnOpen End copy-and-paste It's a puzzle. But thanks for the suggestion about the buttons and menus. :) I did a boot-drive defragmentation two days ago. Maybe lost something there? If I get desperate, I can always use XP's Restore function. So far it's just an extra step to view the files, so the problem remains only an annoyance and a puzzle. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Mary Bull wrote: Can anyone help me fix this? Much appreciation in advance! I don't have a clue to what this can be, but the first thing that comes to mind is to try changing the settings for Use external viewer to open attached images (Options-Preferences-General). -- Urban To most people solutions mean finding the answers. But to chemists solutions are things that are still all mixed up. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: keyboard shortcuts for to: cc: bcc: subject: message headers?
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Arthur Tan wrote: For instance, suppose I am typing an address and then want to erase the whole thing quickly. Is there a keyboard command for delete line in that part of the window? There are the standard Windows ones: Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow for select to end of word, Ctrl+Shift+LeftArrow for select to beginning of word, and Shift+End for select to end of line. -- Urban Rhubarb: A kind of celery gone bloodshot. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
Hello Allister, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 19:32:37 +1200 GMT (07/06/2004, 14:32 +0700 GMT), Allister Jenks wrote: AJ Done. Problem remains. :-( Too bad. Does it happen only when purgingcompressing on exit, or also when you do it manually? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
Hello Simon, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 08:49:17 +0200 GMT (07/06/2004, 13:49 +0700 GMT), Simon Mikkelsen wrote: - folder compression, especially for the Inbox and Outbox. I noticed that TB runs faster after a defrag. SM It's not long ago I ran Norton Speeddisk (a defragger). But during SM the peaks there is no disc activity at all, actually when there is SM any disc activity it goes down. On the beta list, something was mentioned about GDI and USER handlers. Can you check those and see whether their number increases maybe in synch with the slow-down? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Geld ist besser als Armut - wenn auch nur aus finanziellen Gruenden. (Woody Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailbox checking
Hello Code, During the day, I have The Bat! set to check incoming mail frequently. My computer is on 24/7, but at night, there is no need to check mail at all. In the interest of minimizing the load on my ISP, is there a way to override or work around the mailbox checking settings in Account Properties based on the time of day? Why not exit TB and re-start in the morning? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Urban! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 10:20 AM, you wrote: MB Can anyone help me fix this? ... U I don't have a clue to what this can be, but the first thing that comes U to mind is to try changing the settings for Use external viewer to open U attached images (Options-Preferences-General). Thanks for the suggestion. It seems to make no difference, in that the attachment icon makes no response when double-clicked or when Open is selected from the menu, whether the setting is for Use external viewer to open attached images or not. These are all either jpegs or documents in either Word doc format or rich text format. All worked until yesterday. Either my interaction with attachments received from a Mac operating system, or something Windows did in a defrag two days ago now are my best suspects as to culprits. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello Urban, On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 01:47:32 +0200 GMT (08/06/2004, 06:47 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: U IMO that is simply not acceptable, by doing so I am implying to the U receiver that if you are not using TB you are a wrong-doer. What is not acceptable about that? - scnr. U There's another thing that could be helpful... If you could attach (in U lack of any better words) the toggle to the address book. That way I U could tell you that I might very well send meaningful text that easily U could be shown as emoticons. That's a good idea. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wachskerzen wachsen gar nicht, sondern werden im Gegenteil immer kleiner. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Hello ken, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:23:16 -0500 GMT (08/06/2004, 05:23 +0700 GMT), ken green wrote: No time was wasted kg (Note: not just to Thomas) OK. kg Every beta-tester that posts a question about smileys takes away time kg from them posting about a bug that isn't fixed yet. That's why I was so surprised it got so much attention. My answer was: maybe they like it. kg Every response to above takes away time from addressing bugs that kg haven't been fixed. You put this well. It did use resources, even if not during writing. I agree. Seeing the response to this new feature, however, it appears to be time well invested. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. In an office: AFTER TEA BREAK STAFF SHOULD EMPTY THE TEAPOT AND STAND UPSIDE DOWN ON THE DRAINING BOARD Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Your attachments
Hello Marck, On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 23:17:04 +0100 GMT (07/06/2004, 05:17 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: JSL The question pertains to the fact that all of your posts (and some JSL others) have an attachment called 'message.att'. Does everyone see JSL this attachment or is it just me? MDP Version 2 introduced PGP/MIME support and some of us sign our MDP messages with it. Over here the attachments are called Part.txt. Should I be worried? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. What to not say to the nice policeman: I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there is no other car around--that's how far ahead of me they are. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos re-installation question)
Hello Allie, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 05:47:41 -0500 GMT (07/06/2004, 17:47 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: C I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did C not understand one thing: When you say install over do you mean C to run the complete installation exe or do you mean just to C exchange to old thebat.exe against the new thebat.exe ? AM Yes, it means running the complete installation. You should mentioned that TB needs to be closed first. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If you're born again, do you have two bellybuttons? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: duplicate folders
Hello Peter, On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 16:25:42 -0700 GMT (07/06/2004, 06:25 +0700 GMT), Peter Chiou wrote: PC I recently upgraded to 2.x and so far love it, especially the virtual PC folders. It's just like Outlook's virtual windows. However, for some PC reason, I got duplicate folders like 4 Inbox's, Sent, Outbox etc. From the same account? The virtual folders don't show which account any folder belongs to. PC When I delete one, it deletes all 4, which is not good either. No. But what is your filter condition? PC I have also deleted the account from the tree and reinserted - no PC change. I don't understand this: You have deleted an account because messages in it, apparently fulfilling the filter conditions, showed up four times? I'm not that fast at deleting accounts. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bit: Geschicktes Product Placement einer Brauerei in Computerliteratur und Zeitschriften. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Subfolders using main folder properties...
Hæ! Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 12:03, George Mitchell wrote: You could put all your ebay stuff into the ebay folder and recreate the subfolders as virtual folders. That might simplify your filters too. Ähem, I used this method already before the VFs were introduced. I will give it a try. :) Thanks for the hint. -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v2.11.03 without BayesIt on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Extending Trial Period
Hello Stephan, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:44:18 +0200 GMT (07/06/2004, 22:44 +0700 GMT), Stephan Forseilles wrote: SF So here I am with my Serial Number probably somewhere in my mailbox and SF unable to read it because I cannot activate TheBat (to do this I need my SF serial number which is... well you got it). You should have other ways to access your mail. For example, go to www.mail2web.com and access your POP box. Then forward the message to another address, as you wish. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. From page 468 of Using Turbo C++ by Herbert Schildt: REMEMBER: The private parts of an object are accessible only by functions that are members of that object. (Well, there goes free love...) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
%THEBATVERSION Extension
As can be seen in my sig below, the %THEBATVERSION macro I used in the template only shows 2.11 whereas I quite frequently see sigs showing 2.11.02. Does this mean that they are using Beta versions or do they know a variant macro that inserts the minor version? -- Bill McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600-Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %THEBATVERSION Extension
On Wednesday, June 09, 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: B As can be seen in my sig below, the %THEBATVERSION macro I B used in the template only shows 2.11 whereas I quite frequently B see sigs showing 2.11.02. Does this mean that they are using B Beta versions or do they know a variant macro that inserts the B minor version? .02, .03, etc are the current Beta tests. -- Cheers Yall \\' Running TB! version 2.11.02 under Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What about creating a batpost mailing list ?
Hello Claude, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 10:06:30 AM, you wrote: Claude For those who are currently testing, willing to test or simply Claude using batpost, what do you think of creating a batpost mailing Claude list ? According to me it would be very interesting especially Claude since Ritlabs abandonned the forums !!! Give me your thoughts Claude ? What do ritlabs' folks think ? and the other moderators of Claude various lists ? Have at it. See http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/mailing_lists.shtml -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Second childhood? I haven't finished the first one. Using The Bat! 2.11.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: %THEBATVERSION Extension
Hello Wolffe, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 7:45:26 PM, you wrote: B As can be seen in my sig below, the %THEBATVERSION macro I B used in the template only shows 2.11 whereas I quite frequently B see sigs showing 2.11.02. Does this mean that they are using B Beta versions or do they know a variant macro that inserts the B minor version? W .02, .03, etc are the current Beta tests. Actually 2.11.02 is a release version. Otherwise, you wouldn't find it here: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php 2.11.03 is a beta version. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 2.11.03 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Repair Message Base doesn't work
DS Any ideas on how to repair this folder's message base? The TBB file DS is 528k, but I haven't put any limits on the number of messages that DS can be stored in this folder... nor have I ever purged it. Hello Stefan, Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:58:03 PM, you wrote: ST Try to delete the .TBI file - it seems like it's damaged... When I delete the .TBI file, all the message disappear from the inbox folder. Am I supposed to replace it with something? Here's what I've done so far... Created a new local folder and copied both the .TBB and .TBI files into the new folder. After restarting TB, all the messages show up in that new folder... but I still can't open any of them. When I deleted the .TBI file and restarted TB again, the messages don't even show up as being there. Thanks! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %THEBATVERSION Extension
Howdy Bill, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 3:52:30 PM, Bill wrotened: Bill As can be seen in my sig below, the %THEBATVERSION macro Bill I used in the template only shows 2.11 whereas I quite Bill frequently see sigs showing 2.11.02. Does this mean that they Bill are using Beta versions or do they know a variant macro that Bill inserts the minor version? Press alt+F1. What does version does it say there? -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Sex is not the answer. Sex is the question. Yes is the answer. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 10:52 AM, you wrote: MB Can anyone help me fix this? MW Just a suggestion... right-click in the image pane and click on 'View | MW Hide (to Button)'. Now click on the new attachment button and see if the MW default action is 'Open'. You could try changing the settings before MW returning back to the image pane view; i.e. Hide (to Pane). Since this did not help, nor changing the setting to Use External Viewer, and since TB! has permission to display .jpeg and .jpg, I decided to try my idea of taking Windows XP back before the boot-time defrag on Monday. Put it back to Sunday, June 6. This showed my application as TB! 2.00.6. But it would still not open attachments by clicking on the icons with the e-mail. So I undid that restore. Plainly it's a setting messed up somewhere--either in Windows or in The Bat! If anyone has further ideas, I would very much like to hear them. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multi-language templates
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo %TFName %Cursor %Quotes Advocating top-posting now, are we? (tsk tsk) SCNR snippeti-do-da Help / Index / Macros / Full alphabetic list / Dash macro. No! It's gone! :-( It's there, the first one, before ABnnnPPP. Also, the Help window doesn't scroll with the scroll wheel. :-( It does with my Microsoft thingie. -- Urban No one's tall anymore. They're vertically enhanced. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message from Help screen
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Maggie wrote: Yes. I see how to accomplish that in the HTML editor, but how to do this in the Plain Text (Windows Proportional)?? You can't. In a plain text message the links just are, there's no need to indicate that it's a link. In HTML, on the other hand, you have to say that what you mean to be a link really is a link. That's where my unclickable links were showing. I 'spoke' to Allie about this and he was not seeing the same thing I was reporting about this. Your link showed fine here, and the only way I could manage to make it unshowable was to use the HTML-editor and send a non-linked URL. So I am as baffled as anyone else as to the reason why it acts as it does. Despite enjoying the ability to select and drag text around the window to different areas and all the other wonderful editing bells and whistles, I have decided to continue to use the old reliable MicroEd. I had not realized that the other editors did not wrap the text the way I created it, wrapping to the window instead. Maybe it's a wrapping thing. Have you tried to shorten it trough something like http://www.makeashorterlink.com ? -- Urban Home is where the house is. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos re-installation question)
Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM Yes, it means running the complete installation. TF You should mentioned that TB needs to be closed first. Yes, thanks. :) -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com TB! v2.11.03 · WinXP Pro SP1 pgpOfU41FWUM7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
DW Susan wrote: DS Created a new local folder and copied both the .TBB and .TBI files DS into the new folder. After restarting TB, all the messages show up in DS that new folder... but I still can't open any of them. When I deleted DS the .TBI file and restarted TB again, the messages don't even show up DS as being there. This is likely an irretrievable situation through graceful means since TB! would normally read the .tbb file and rebuild the tbi (index file) from the .tbb file. This likely means that the .tbb file is badly corrupted. Is the .tbb file of the size you'd expect considering the number of messages in it. It's at these times that a backup would help one out. -- -= Allie =- | List Moderator and fellow End-User PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com TB! v2.11.03 · WinXP Pro SP1 pgpzmRm3BvOUI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Repair Message Base doesn't work
Hello Sergey, SK On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:18:07 -0700 you [DS] typed: SK You didn't specify whether you had an IMAP or local folder damaged. If SK it's an IMAP folder, deleting the .tbb file will not harm your SK messages since they are kept on the server. snip SK Once again, this is not going to work for any of your local folders. SK Please, make sure that the damaged folder is an IMAP one. Unfortunately, it's a local folder. Do you have any ideas on how to recover the messages from a local folder? Thanks! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB And Loss Of Internet Connection
Howdy Steve, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 3:43:29 PM, Steve wrotened: Steve Hi rich Assuming others on your LAN are not having the same problem maybe it's time for your annual re-install of Windows! Steve Yeah, no one else is having this problem. Steve Re-install Windows? My god. Clearly hoped it wouldn't come to that as Steve it represents a logistical nightmare (as I'm sure you appreciate) as Steve the machine acts as a pseudo server to the rest of the machines on Steve the LAN and as such, contains all our company documents etc, mail Steve server, act as a print server etc. Steve Still, I'm due to be leaving the company next week so can probably get Steve away with leaving (ignoring) it. Mine does the same job as yours, and it was working fine until i came into the office one morning and got desperate looks from people after it had failed on a reboot routine and someone had put the windows recovery disk in... That gave me a days work. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 The tire is only flat on the bottom. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %THEBATVERSION Extension
Howdy Bill, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 3:52:30 PM, Bill wrotened: Bill As can be seen in my sig below, the %THEBATVERSION macro Bill I used in the template only shows 2.11 whereas I quite Bill frequently see sigs showing 2.11.02. Does this mean that they Bill are using Beta versions or do they know a variant macro that Bill inserts the minor version? Press alt+F1. What does version does it say there? -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Sex is not the answer. Sex is the question. Yes is the answer. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %THEBATVERSION Extension
Hello Wolffe, On 9 Jun 2004 at 13:45:26 -0400 GMT [19:45 CEST] you wrote: W .02, .03, etc are the current Beta tests. No. 02 is a service release and the latest release version. 03 is a beta. -- Cheers, Andre Das Gras wächst nicht schneller, wenn man daran zieht. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Your attachments
Hello Thomas, On 9 Jun 2004 at 23:59:20 +0700 GMT [18:59 CEST] you wrote: MDP Version 2 introduced PGP/MIME support and some of us sign our MDP messages with it. TF Over here the attachments are called Part.txt. Should I be worried? There are two attachements. The signature is message.att. You don't see that with v2. part.txt is the list footer. -- Cheers, Andre If it's raining, a cute thing to tell a child is 'God is crying.' If they ask why, another cute thing to say is, 'Probably something you did.' Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
On Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 2:21 PM, you wrote: DS When I delete the .TBI file, all the message disappear from the inbox DS folder. Am I supposed to replace it with something? Here's what I've DS done so far... try the Fllder menu- Maintenance. Top left option is repair ;) it just happened to me today when I started TB, it asked me if I wanted to fix it! -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.396) (avast! version number) 0424-2 (09.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.396 (avast! plugin version number) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
Howdy Martin, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 8:45:34 AM, Martin wrotened: This is how usually my messages display yes Martin View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:50 Martin Re: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:59 Martin Re[2]: View mode... 07:45 (today) however sometimes if there are two replies to a particular message then the newest one will appear before the older msg. eg: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:50 Re: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:59 new msg--- Re: View Mode... 07:50 (today) Re[2]: View mode... 07:45 (today) What i want to achieve is that message coming in below its older counterpart -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop crashing The Bat! v2.11.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Nothing is ever accomplished by a reasonable man. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Your attachments
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Over here the attachments are called Part.txt. Should I be worried? JSL seems to use TB v1.61 It's been a while, but I think TB1.6x showed PGP/MIME sigs as msg.att BTW Jack, TB v1.62 is available for download from Ritlabs. -- Urban Vacuums are nothings. We only mention them to let them know we know they're there. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Repair Message Base doesn't work
AM DW Susan wrote: DS Created a new local folder and copied both the .TBB and .TBI files DS into the new folder. After restarting TB, all the messages show up in DS that new folder... but I still can't open any of them. When I deleted DS the .TBI file and restarted TB again, the messages don't even show up DS as being there. Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 11:38:03 AM, you wrote: AM This is likely an irretrievable situation through graceful means since AM TB! would normally read the .tbb file and rebuild the tbi (index file) AM from the .tbb file. This likely means that the .tbb file is badly AM corrupted. Is the .tbb file of the size you'd expect considering the AM number of messages in it. Yes, it is. The .TBB file is 528k and the inbox shows all the messages as being in there. However, if I click on any of those messages I get the error message that the message base needs to be repaired. Repairing it, though, doesn't make a difference -- I still can't access the messages. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Repair Message Base doesn't work
DS When I delete the .TBI file, all the message disappear from the inbox DS folder. Am I supposed to replace it with something? Here's what I've DS done so far... Hello Paul, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 12:07:47 PM, you wrote: PC try the Fllder menu- Maintenance. Top left option is repair ;) PC it just happened to me today when I started TB, it asked me if I wanted PC to fix it! I've tried this about seven times now. I keep getting this message: Messages recovered: 59, damaged parts (part.bin) saved: 0 Processing finished. 1 folders processed When I go back to the inbox to access those messages, TB asks me again if I want to repair the message base... even though I had just repaired it. Any idea what the (part.bin) means... and/or is this a clue regarding some other action I should take? Thanks! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Nickname (Handle)
On Thu 10 June 2004, 1:17:26 +1000, Rich Gregory wrote: I have a line in my templates that reads: Hi %ABOFromHandle=%OFromFName Which is what I had until Terry identified the problem. I hadn't come across the need for duplicates in my addressbook, because most of my addressbook entries didn't have a nickname different from their firstname. However, now that this problem has been pointed out, I have rewritten my templates to work as noted in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The work-around I've used so far is that one Ed's handle is Ed, another Ed is Eddy, another is Edmund. In this example we see Ed is not so much a problem. I also have several Jeans in my address book! The only way to port this work-around to them is as: Jean, Jean G, Jean L, etc. I also have more than 1 Barry, so: Barry, Barry W, etc... ...snip... So what was the original intended use for that field anyway? Without knowing a better use for these handles I cannot see why duplicate handles are not allowed! It allows you to put Jean or Eddy or Ed or JeanG or JeanL as the recipient and have the system automatically expand the email address (and other attributes) -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ben, On 09 June 2004, 20:01 Ben Allen [BA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BA This is how usually my messages display yes That's because the messages are threaded by reference and in the case of this thread it's a bit like a daisy chain. BA however sometimes if there are two replies to a particular message BA then the newest one will appear before the older msg. eg: BA View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:50 BARe: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:59 BA new msg--- Re: View Mode... 07:50 (today) BA Re[2]: View mode... 07:45 (today) I can't see how this can happen if you sort by time received... BA What i want to achieve is that message coming in below its older BA counterpart Moreover, I can't say I've really noticed that or consider it a problem since you can still follow the thread. When the discussion forks further replies will reference to the correct message. For example, see Mary's post: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is what I see (threads sorted by reference/time received): Author Received Kludges Adjusted (GMT) Order created Feli16:32 16:55:14 +0200 14:55 1 Martin 16:57 16:52:04 +0100 15:52 3 Urban 17:36 17:20:29 +0200 15:20 2 This is correct when sorting by time received. To display messages in the order you want use time created. If you're still experiencing problems and are convinced the ordering is incorrect send me a screen shot. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMduzzknq5PWREYNEQKBewCbBNgaeCTdJuP30Su+eRMe8HpW5Z0AoMds afLp7UMJmo25eKVWG9M2a0Pi =JtJm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %THEBATVERSION Extension
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello rich, On 09 June 2004, 16:45 -0400 (09/06/200421:45 local time) rich gregory [RG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RG Is there a document that itemizes each and every release and what it RG is supposed to have fixed? Yes, readme.txt, which you will find in your TB! installation folder. [ + Added feature] [ * Improved/changed feature ] [ - Bug fixed (we hope) ] - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMd4KTknq5PWREYNEQK3CgCffxvKVy2M/4KOKiAmSByVRd2H+TAAoJxY PrC0+IOfym7xE+jT6RnKSnK2 =xvSg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Nickname (Handle)
Hello Robin, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 5:42:42 AM, you wrote: Apologies if I confused anyone. I cut it out of a much larger QT that I use that puts multiple names on the greeting line. Wow...thanks for this QT it works great. I went back and changed all of the entries in my AB that had nicknames to the method you suggested and it works without a hitch. It amazes me that this program can be so limited in something like this nickname feature and at the same time be so flexible (if you know how to program or have access to people who know :-) ). Again thanks for your help. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.11.02 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Nickname (Handle)
Hello rich, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 2:00:00 PM, you wrote: SUGGESTION # 7734: Let duplicates exist and when a string matching a handle is typed in the address line the auto-drop-down address allow a choice so that the replies can say HI to the handle IDs nicely! Or try method suggested by Robin in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],...it works! -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 2.11.02 under Windows XP Service Pack 1 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 15:51 -0500 (09/06/200421:51 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Do you see the image in one of the tabbed panes; e.g. Clipbrd1.gif? MB No. That's does seem rather odd. How about tabs such as Part.txt? (take any signed message from me in TBBETA) MW Also, do you see the following in Options | Preferences | Protection? ...snip MB Yes. I'm going to look into this a bit more since changing it made no difference to my set up. MW This is from the registry key: MW ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG,*.ARJ,*.ZIP,*.RAR,*.TIF,*.ACE,*.LZH,*.WAV MB I can't find this key in my registry. But surely it is there since I MB have the file names in Options/Preferences/Protection. I opened MB everything in the registry I could see under HKey/Current MB User/Software/Rit/The Bat!. Didn't find that key. Strange. It's in my setup _but_ I did import my registry setting when I rebuild XP a few months ago so it could be redundant. I can send you that key if you like. MW I decided to remove *.GIF from my list (and subsequently the registry) MW to see if I could emulate your problem. Guess what? I can still open GIF MW files without a warning. MB These are .jpg files, mostly. When I save them to Desktop, they come MB up with a Gimp icon. (I have the Gimp program, but I don't recall MB associating Save to Desktop with it. Probably did and then forgot.) I chose .gif simply because I could see one in my message list. Nonetheless, I don't think it's a program association problem as this is about TB! internal protection mechanisms. MB So what if I emptied the fields for both Enable and Disable under MB Protection? Would that be safe to do? I could save a copy of them and MB put it back afterward. MB What do you think? I shouldn't be a problem so long as you know that you are opening images only. I'm going to give this a try too. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMd9tjknq5PWREYNEQIecwCfRVqZDMOpgAlmNbjEtMIK6tqzzm8AoMBZ 2+s03PGMzeySXEFv+4W1WLRq =XCCX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:14 PM, you wrote: MW Hello Mary, MW On 09 June 2004, 15:51 -0500 (09/06/200421:51 local time) Mary Bull [MB] MW in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW Do you see the image in one of the tabbed panes; e.g. Clipbrd1.gif? MB No. MW That's does seem rather odd. How about tabs such as Part.txt? (take any MW signed message from me in TBBETA) MW Also, do you see the following in Options | Preferences | Protection? MW ...snip MB Yes. MW I'm going to look into this a bit more since changing it made no MW difference to my set up. MW This is from the registry key: MW ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG,*.ARJ,*.ZIP,*.RAR,*.TIF,*.ACE,*.LZH,*.WAV MB I can't find this key in my registry. But surely it is there since I MB have the file names in Options/Preferences/Protection. I opened MB everything in the registry I could see under HKey/Current MB User/Software/Rit/The Bat!. Didn't find that key. Strange. MW It's in my setup _but_ I did import my registry setting when I rebuild MW XP a few months ago so it could be redundant. I can send you that key if MW you like. MW I decided to remove *.GIF from my list (and subsequently the registry) MW to see if I could emulate your problem. Guess what? I can still open GIF MW files without a warning. MB These are .jpg files, mostly. When I save them to Desktop, they come MB up with a Gimp icon. (I have the Gimp program, but I don't recall MB associating Save to Desktop with it. Probably did and then forgot.) MW I chose .gif simply because I could see one in my message list. MW Nonetheless, I don't think it's a program association problem as this is MW about TB! internal protection mechanisms. MB So what if I emptied the fields for both Enable and Disable under MB Protection? Would that be safe to do? I could save a copy of them and MB put it back afterward. MB What do you think? MW I shouldn't be a problem so long as you know that you are opening images MW only. I'm going to give this a try too. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 22:14 Martin Webster [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip MB What do you think? I given a little more thought and wonder if you've set the 'Use external viewer...' option in Preferences | General. Also, the registry key is relevant _but_ the inclusion of image types doesn't prevent TB! from opening the file with its internal viewer _only_ an external viewer, which leads me to suggest you have opted for an external viewer. If this is the case it could be a file association problem after all. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMeBYTknq5PWREYNEQI0xACg90XGgVbH/KI00kS/zkL6vodWevYAoJ+B TI6o9FFV4vcuJBO9FqvEjK/s =VmZR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:14 PM, you wrote: MW Do you see the image in one of the tabbed panes; e.g. Clipbrd1.gif? MB No. MW That's does seem rather odd. How about tabs such as Part.txt? (take any MW signed message from me in TBBETA) Oh, I understand your question about image now. Yes, I see Part.txt in your signed message in tbbeta. And, for example, I see: Wrenfamilygroup.jpg 69,102 bytes in the button for one of the attachments--the same as I see in a mouseover of the attachment icon. Your Clibrd1.gif example confused me. I'm even more dense than usual at this time of day. Sorry. :( MW Also, do you see the following in Options | Preferences | Protection? MW ...snip MB Yes. MW I'm going to look into this a bit more since changing it made no MW difference to my set up. Thank you so much! MW This is from the registry key: MW ProtectAllowOpen=*.JPG,*.JPEG,*.PNG,*.GIF,*.BMP,*.ICO,*.WMF,*.EMF,*.VCF,*.EML,*.MSG,*.ARJ,*.ZIP,*.RAR,*.TIF,*.ACE,*.LZH,*.WAV MB I can't find this key in my registry. But surely it is there since I MB have the file names in Options/Preferences/Protection. I opened MB everything in the registry I could see under HKey/Current MB User/Software/Rit/The Bat!. Didn't find that key. Strange. MW It's in my setup _but_ I did import my registry setting when I rebuild MW XP a few months ago so it could be redundant. I can send you that key if MW you like. Please. It might be worth a try. A reference to that was the only thing I found in the tbudl archives--it was from an exchange in 2000, when someone had blocked TB! from opening attachments and wanted to undo it and forgotten how. snip MW I chose .gif simply because I could see one in my message list. MW Nonetheless, I don't think it's a program association problem as this is MW about TB! internal protection mechanisms. I see. MB So what if I emptied the fields for both Enable and Disable under MB Protection? Would that be safe to do? I could save a copy of them and MB put it back afterward. MB What do you think? MW I shouldn't be a problem so long as you know that you are opening images MW only. I'm going to give this a try too. Okay, I'll try that. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
Hello DW, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 11:39:13 -0700 you [DS] typed: DS Unfortunately, it's a local folder. Do you have any ideas on how DS to recover the messages from a local folder? I can only suggest trying The Bat! Message Recovery tool: http://savenger.com/download/tbrec.rar. -- Sergey The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:22 PM, you wrote: MB Hello Martin! MB On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:14 PM, you wrote: snip Martin, I'm sorry about this. I had just set up my reply window and I must have hit something--don't know what. The message certainly flew without the dialogue window Send the message? appearing. I wonder if a shortcut key got me into trouble this time. My actual reply should arrive shortly. My apologies for the premature Send. :( -- Best regards Mary Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:30 PM, you wrote: MW I given a little more thought and wonder if you've set the 'Use external MW viewer...' option in Preferences | General. No, that box is unchecked. I did check it, on another poster's suggestion, trying to figure this out. But it made no difference. So I unchecked it. That's how I have had it ever since I got The Bat!, because I thought it was safer. MW Also, the registry key is relevant _but_ the inclusion of image types MW doesn't prevent TB! from opening the file with its internal viewer MW _only_ an external viewer, which leads me to suggest you have opted for MW an external viewer. If this is the case it could be a file association MW problem after all. I am using the internal viewer. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 22:30 Martin Webster [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW I given a little more thought and wonder if you've set the 'Use external MW viewer...' option in Preferences | General. MW Also, the registry key is relevant _but_ the inclusion of image types MW doesn't prevent TB! from opening the file with its internal viewer MW _only_ an external viewer, which leads me to suggest you have opted for MW an external viewer. If this is the case it could be a file association MW problem after all. Okay, I've chosen external image viewer and removed a file association in Windows to see what happens. When I double click on an icon, TB! lets Windows decide how to open the file. However, because there is no association TB! pops up a windows asking what application I should open the file (image) with. Clearly, this isn't quite what you experience but it is similar behaviour. I wonder what would happen if there is an association but it's broken and fails to launch the application? Check what application is associated with .JPG by opening a Windows file manager window and using Tools | Folder Options... | File Types. Select JPG (or JPEG) and see what application opens the file (Change button). There's is likely to be a couple of applications... try changing it to Window Picture and Fax Viewer if that's not set. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMeFMzknq5PWREYNEQKk9ACgiLv3Oy7Wh8F0xdtmSI3hLagS1WgAoK8z KA68iAjXakF2zl7P4Jym4ZIe =/hul -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
Sergey- Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 2:36:06 PM, you wrote: SK I can only suggest trying The Bat! Message Recovery tool: SK http://savenger.com/download/tbrec.rar. And short of that, try renaming a copy of the .tbb file to .uue, open it with WinZip, and see what comes up. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: extra lines
Hallo hasan, On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 18:36:31 +0500GMT (9-6-2004, 15:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: H A strange thing is that after the thread reaches 3 replies, the original message H has 3 line spaces(Which is at the bottom), the 2nd message has 2 line spaces and so on. H Not only in my messages but also in the replies I get from others. This last line suggests that it isn't TB's doing, but perhaps your ISP's server since it happens to replies from other people too. You might try to send yourself a message, reply to it, reply again and compare the messages you're receiving with those that you actually sent. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 4:46 PM, you wrote: MW Select JPG (or JPEG) and see what application opens the file (Change MW button). There's is likely to be a couple of applications... try MW changing it to Window Picture and Fax Viewer if that's not set. Okay, I did that. JPG, JPEG, and JPI (for j peg image) were all associated with Gimp. I must have done that when I first installed Gimp, but I forgot that I had. Anyway, I changed the association to Windows Picture and Fax Viewer. But there is still no response when double-clicking the image icon in The Bat! or choosing Open from the right-click menu of the icon. This happens with the external viewer selected in Options/Preferences/General and with it not selected. (Unchecked box--internal viewer.) The one effect of my file association change in the File manager is that I see the familiar Windows flowerpot icon on my Desktop for the lone jpeg I've left there, instead of the little gray Gimp animal icon. What a drag! I do appreciate all your help. And I can still view all attachments by saving them to Desktop, which is only a couple of extra clicks to do. I've been dragging them from there into my Picture File folder. Well, we have to check out all possibilities if a puzzle is to get solved, don't we? Not that it will guarantee a solution. :) Anyway, :42: and thanks again for all the help this afternoon and always!! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter by thread automatically
Hallo M, On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:02:44 +0200GMT (9-6-2004, 14:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MF I would like to be able to automatically thread a child message to wherever MF its parent message may be in my message base. Is this possible in general? No this isn't possible, neither for incoming nor outgoing messages. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Allie Martin @ 2004-Jun-8 9:50:42 AM Top Posting / Cut Mark mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Furthermore, we've seen where off-list moderating takes a list. Is that because the moderators have to coordinate their messages so the offender does not get reprimanded multiple times? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Today's Oxymoron: Almost exactly pgpLkUFJ4Sbc3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mary, On 09 June 2004, 17:16 -0500 (09/06/200423:16 local time) Mary Bull [MB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip MB What a drag! I do appreciate all your help. And I can still view all MB attachments by saving them to Desktop, which is only a couple of extra MB clicks to do. I've been dragging them from there into my Picture File MB folder. How disappointing... I thought we were onto something. :-) MB Well, we have to check out all possibilities if a puzzle is to get MB solved, don't we? Not that it will guarantee a solution. :) Anyway, MB :42: and thanks again for all the help this afternoon and always!! Your welcome! Now I think the problem _must_ be with your TB! installation. The only thing I can suggest now is to reinstall TB! over the top of your current set up. This won't modify any of your settings (filters, colour groups etc.) but may replace something that's gone awry. I'll call it a day now... it's 11:30 pm here. - -- As ever, Martin Webster Jabber mjw | ICQ 15893823 | PGP Key ID 0xD644460D The Bat! 2.11.03 | BayesIt! 0.5.5 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: PGP Key available from ldap://europe.keys.pgp.com/:11370; iQA/AwUBQMeOLzknq5PWREYNEQJi2QCgl+SooPtpyaMrK98y3ck8oD6H+EcAnR5S matTmUKZVhsjC/xMLAauyR2K =1kFz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! attachment display settings?
Hello Martin! On Wednesday, June 09, 2004, 5:24 PM, you wrote: MW Now I think the problem _must_ be with your TB! installation. The only MW thing I can suggest now is to reinstall TB! over the top of your current MW set up. This won't modify any of your settings (filters, colour groups MW etc.) but may replace something that's gone awry. MW I'll call it a day now... it's 11:30 pm here. Thank you so much, once again. I'll try the re-install. Good night. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %THEBATVERSION Extension
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Martin Webster wrote: Yes, readme.txt, which you will find in your TB! installation folder. Hmmm.. That's strange... It mentions Service release 2.11.01 but there's nothing about 2.11.02 -- Urban Franklin discovered electricity by rubbing two cats backwards and declared, A horse divided against itself cannot stand.. Franklin died in 1790 and is still dead. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote: U IMO that is simply not acceptable, by doing so I am implying to the U receiver that if you are not using TB you are a wrong-doer. What is not acceptable about that? - scnr. I guess I should have seen that one coming :-) U There's another thing that could be helpful... If you could attach (in U lack of any better words) the toggle to the address book. That way I U could tell you that I might very well send meaningful text that easily U could be shown as emoticons. That's a good idea. I haven't figured the bugtracker wishlist out yet. Feel free to add it if you want to. -- Urban A hurricane is a breeze of a bigly size. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top Posting / Cut Mark
Chris, [C] wrote: Furthermore, we've seen where off-list moderating takes a list. C Is that because the moderators have to coordinate their messages so C the offender does not get reprimanded multiple times? No. The members often feel that what others do on list is fine since it's not moderated. They don't realize that it's being moderated off-list. So they believe that something that was in fact moderated, is ok and they proceed to follow suit. Public moderation prevents this unnecessary confusion and more common breaking of list rules. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpVOYHV4Ejwz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted
On Thu 10 June 2004, 6:10:51 +1000, Martin Webster wrote: BA however sometimes if there are two replies to a particular message BA then the newest one will appear before the older msg. eg: BA View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:50 BARe: View mode... 8 June 2004, 23:59 BA new msg--- Re: View Mode... 07:50 (today) BA Re[2]: View mode... 07:45 (today) I can't see how this can happen if you sort by time received... The problem is that Ben _doesn't_ sort by time received, he sorts by subject. I usually sort by time (actually time created rather than time received) and have old messages at the top and new messages at the bottom. However when I tried sorting by subject I was able to duplicate what Ben sees - within each thread the messages are sorted in reverse chronological order: new messages at the top and older ones below that. I suspect there is no way around that. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain Text Windows - Clickable URLs (Was Re[2]: Error message from Help screen)
Hello Urban and y'all, Sorry to follow on myself, but... M The issue seemed to be my typing in or cutpasting a link where M moving the cursor over it did not show it as a live link, snip M For this email I have changed to the Plain Text editor (Windows M proportional). snip M Here is a typed-in address: M http://www.swan.ac.uk/classics/staff/ter/grst/big.htm M Here is a copy and pasted address: M http://anzwers.org/free/universe/ M On my screen these links do not show as live/clickable. As I M mentioned, the Message Format is Plain Text Windows. I can see when reading my own message sent to the list that the links are indeed clickable. So, go figure. I received email from a correspondent that said the links were not clickable, I cannot see that they are clickable when I am creating the message, and yet they show perfectly normal when reading the list... Doo-dah--doo-dah-doo-dah --- twilight zone. -- Maggie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: keyboard shortcuts for to: cc: bcc: subject: message headers?
Hi Urban, On Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 12:29:40 PM, you wrote: Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Arthur Tan wrote: For instance, suppose I am typing an address and then want to erase the whole thing quickly. Is there a keyboard command for delete line in that part of the window? There are the standard Windows ones: Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow for select to end of word, Ctrl+Shift+LeftArrow for select to beginning of word, and Shift+End for select to end of line. That did the trick! Thanks Urban! Regards, Arthur -- SecureBat! Lite 2.10.02 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Move Attachment Pane in Editor
Can you move the attachment pane in editing mode? I see how to move it while viewing, but not editing. -- Thanks! -MikeD Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add a contact
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 2:01:29 AM, you wrote: A When I click to add an address to the address book, and add this A address, I find later I can't find the address. It seems that if I do A it again, add to address book, I notice something under the Groups A field in the Address book entry window. It seems to always pick A something. I am not sure how. A How would you ensure that it won't add an address to some abandoned A address group? There is a square symbol at the right of the Groups window with 3 dots in it. You left-click on this to open a Group Selector window where you select the desired group. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ...Justice: A decision in your favour. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
