POP trouble
Hello TBUDL, I'm sending from this address as I have trouble retrieving messages from Kimo. TB is Connecting to Server... forever. I don't get error messages (nor timeouts). I called to Kimo's tech support and complained - they said there POP server is fine, and they have not received any other complaints. Then I went directly into the POP server (telnet pop3.kimo.com.tw 100), and everything was fine. UIDL, RETR 1, QUIT. Nevertheless, TB does not pick up the messages! Conecting to server... forever. This problem does not exist with any other of the POP accounts. I even disabled my firewall and my trojan monitor temporarily just to see whether it's them blocking any packages. Package monitor says TB sends packages to port 110. Tech suport confirmed that their DNS server was down on the weekend and mails got rejected during that time. Tech support did not know the IP address of pop3.kimo.com.tw and will send me an email (to GMX, because I cannot check Kimo), but is there a way we can look this up somewhere? Does anybody know another freemailer in Taiwan? The problem with GMX is that picking up more than 100 messages at a time is a problem, at least whne the pop server is 20,000 km away. When there are so many messages (over 100 or so) on the server, I have to abort every 10 or 20 messages, then start again. That's why I usually use this email address here only for half of my mailing lists (the German language ones). -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: MAPI Failure - novice question
Hi Daniel, On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:22:15 +0200GMT (06/06/2001, 16:22 +0800GMT), Daniel Morton wrote: I use THE BAT for all my emails. When I am in other programs such as Word there is the send to function (to send the word document as an email) but it then asks for a username and pwd. It is the account password within TB that is asked for. If you didn't set a password, leave that field blank. And I agree it's a GUI nightmare: I also tried every password I could think of (I couldn't think of the account passwords, because I never set any on that machine!), until I just left it blank out of spite, and suddenly it worked. Here is what you have to do to avoid this pop-up: In one account, under Account / Properties / General, tick Use this account for mailto URL's. Then this account will be chosen; you can still change it again with the Editor's Option menu. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: POP trouble
Hello Tim, On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:16:33 -0400 GMT (07/06/2001, 01:16 +0800 GMT), Tim Musson wrote: Here is a thought. Set up a new TB Account to connect to the problem pop connection. If it works, then the Account would be the place to look, if not, my suggestion at least told you that you don't have some stray TB setting messing things up... g I will try that in the morning. Funny thing is that the same problem happens suddenly on two seperate machines (office and home). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The severity of the itch is inversely proportional to the ability to reach it. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: POP trouble
Hello Serge, On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:10:16 +0300 GMT (06/06/2001, 18:10 +0800 GMT), Serge Skorokhodov wrote: TF Then I went directly into the POP server (telnet TF pop3.kimo.com.tw 100), and everything was fine. UIDL, RETR 1, ^ [...] TF I even disabled my firewall and my trojan monitor temporarily just to TF see whether it's them blocking any packages. Package monitor says TB TF sends packages to port 110. Stupid idea. the port numbers do not match. May this be the problem? Thanks for your thoughts, but the first one was just a typo. Port 110 is the pop port. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When you smell an odorless gas, it is probably carbon monoxide Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Connection Centre hanging on one of my accounts
Hello Kiyan, On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:21:13 -0400GMT (07/06/2001, 03:21 in Taiwan), Kiyan wrote: Seemed to help, but every so often (a few times a day) one of those accounts hangs, sometimes the CC says it's been trying for over 5 hrs. In that case if I KILL the bat from task manager and restart it, it seems to work fine. You seem to have the same prroblem as me (except over here it hangs ervery time). Makes me think it's something in the code after all... Can we see what command TB actually sends, in order to connect to the POP server, and once it is connected? Because I have no problem when I connect manually. -- Cheers, Thomas.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! V1.53 Beta/11 - auto rcv hangs
Hi Jan, On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:11:59 -0400GMT (08/06/2001, 02:11 +0800GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JRQuite frequently it appears to me that TB! hangs on auto rcv, that JRis if TB! is left to fetch mail every 10-15 mins, I can return 2 JRhrs later to find that there is no new mail. Known bug: TB doesn't timeout any more. Since you are referring to a beta version, you should know that this was discussed on the TBBETA list. Your subject line suggests you are referring to a beta problem, and these should not be discussed on this list. However, it is also true for v1.52f release, so I guess it's OK to reply here. JR Either aborting or deleting task in connection manager results in JR a lost connection. When there is no task to do, the Connection Center will disconnect, unless you have unticked Disconnect after Mailsession. Works as desired. JR On reconnection pop server delivers mail. Comments, thoughts, or JR similar circumstances to discuss anyone? Confirmed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Save replies in current folder rather than Sent folder (for all folders)
Hi Luis, On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:50:57 +1000GMT (08/06/2001, 12:50 +0800GMT), Luis A. Apiolaza wrote: LAA I could create a filter for each folder, but it doesn't seem LAA reasonable, especially because I have over 100 folders. Correct. But unfortunately, I don't think there is a workaround. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Storage of attachment
Hi Melissa, On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:42:13 -0700GMT (08/06/2001, 16:42 +0800GMT), Melissa wrote: DM * store the attachment separate from message in special dir ? DM * in message bodies ? M I prefer storing them separate from the message bodies, in a folder that M I've created for them. This way, they're all in one place, where I can M examine, scan, etc. I used to store them seperately for the very same reason (arbitrary access). However, I have now switched to In Message Body, because: 1.) I used to have a lot of attachments that made no sense in the extra directory. message1.msg through message317.msg don't help me identify anything; neither does a file with the same name, sent to you by different people, and the name being picture.jpg (and then picture1.jpg and so forth). Most of the file names in that \Attach directory where useless for arbitrary browsing. 2.) If I really want to keep an attached file, I save it to another directory anyway (My Dopcuments \ someSubDir for *.doc files, for example), as the \Attach directory under TB gets cluttered with all kinds of different files and at the end you do not find anything anyway. 3.) When you move the message to another account, the attachment will stay in the original \Attach directory belonging to the orginal mail account. OK, you say you created an extra directory for attachments, but that only makes the clutter (point 2) worse. 4.) When you delete messages or purge them, the attachments sometimes don't get deleted in the seperate folder. OTOH sometimes the attachments disappeared even though the messages was parked. Did I forget something? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Copying Filters
Hello TBUDL! I want to copy all my filters from an old account into anew account. I have tried to copy the file account.flx and account.slx, but the filters didn't show up in the Account / Sorting Office, even after resart of TB. While file again contained the filters? -- Ciao, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Generated with The Bat! 1.53 RC/2 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: sharing the bat and printing
Hello Oliver, On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:54:12 +0100 GMT (09/06/2001, 19:54 +0800 GMT), Oliver Antosch wrote: 1. is it possible to share the bat among two computers in a network, so both use the same messagebase and addressbook? Yes. It has to do with using TB as a server, and I never tried it. It's in the FAQ though: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com 2. How can I print just parts of a received email? Use the %clipboard macro in the print template, and mark and copy to clipboard the parts you want to print. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Doctors use computers to create a three demential picture of a person's brain. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 RC/2 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Any Idea
Hello Raj, On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:28:53 +0530 GMT (09/06/2001, 19:58 +0800 GMT), Raj wrote: With TB one can check multiple 'pop' by creating different accounts. But is there some way I can check multiple 'pop' from one account. One POP account is one TB account. Same word, same meaning. ;-) Reason : I use multiple ISP, each of them have provided me a pop account. I normally do not use the id's. But would like to check the accounts once in a while to see if they have any offers. Or in other words do not want to miss any mail sent to the account. If you want to check your account (POP account), you will have to tell TB the details by creating this account in TB. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. -Pity the poor egg: it only gets laid once Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 RC/2 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: sharing the bat and printing
Hello Oliver, Saturday, June 09, 2001, 8:59:12 PM, you wrote: 1. is it possible to share the bat among two computers in a network, so both use the same messagebase and addressbook? TF Yes. It has to do with using TB as a server, and I never tried it. TF It's in the FAQ though: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com i tried to find it in the faq..found nothing..what keyword should i use? Didn't find it in the FAQ either, but in the help file. Try looking for Networking. 2. How can I print just parts of a received email? TF Use the %clipboard macro in the print template, and mark and copy to TF clipboard the parts you want to print. where is the print template? its not where the other templates are in the account properties. Main Menu: Message / Print Setup / Template. -- Cheers, Thomas -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB and PCCillin AV
Hi Jeff, On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:15:55 -0500GMT (11/06/2001, 11:15 +0800GMT), JWorley wrote: J I have seen some info about integrating Norton AV with TB. Anyone J know how to integrate PCCillin and TB? Thanks in advance. You don't need to integrate much. Just activate Realtime Scan in PC-Cillin. Be aware that any AV software cannot check MIME-encoded (or otherwise encoded) attachments. Before you open an attachment, you should save it to file (I always save into the tmp directory). If the file contains a virus, PC-Cillin will not allow saving but raise an alarm. I have not been hit ever since I've used PC-Cillin. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging folders containing flagged messages
Hi Dwight, On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:12:25 -0500GMT (11/06/2001, 12:12 +0800GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC It would be very useful if folders containing a flagged message could DAC be flagged so that one could tell that it contained a flagged message, DAC just as one can tell when a folder contains an unread message. I second that. I use flags for another purpose, namely mails that still need to be replied to, and I often forget and have to search all folders so see whether there is any flagged message. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging folders containing flagged messages
Hi Allie, On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 05:22:42 -0500GMT (11/06/2001, 18:22 +0800GMT), A Curtis Martin wrote: ACM The advanced filtering may help in this regard. You can set TB! to display ACM only flagged messages. Yes, I guess you could use that. A little thingy on the folder (like the tickmark when unread messages are in an account) would come in handy, though. ACM Another tool is alt+left clicking on items in the message list. This won't work. If you have a hundred folders, you you would have to to click on each one of them to see whether there are any flagged messages. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 RC/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: yelp! Can't see mail receiving and delivery any more in 1.52f
Hi Britta, On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:34:25 +1200GMT (11/06/2001, 18:34 +0800GMT), Britta wrote: B I've only just upgraded to 1.52f (from 52c, I think) - and now the B familiar small popup windows are gone whenever I send mail or receive B it. You have upgraded from 1.51 - that was the last version with these little pop=up windows. We now have a Connection Center. I don't remember how to make it visible in v1.52f, as it has improved a lot during the current beta series. I know exactly why you need to watch the progress of each account, I have the same problem, and the Connection Center makes it actually a lot easier, because it's one pop-up instead of 13. I find it buggy in 1.52f (Delete Task does not work!), but the 1.53 beta series has hatched a release candidate which IMHO is so good that it could be released. You can download it from Ritlabs's Beta page. when you run this version, you can go to Options / Preference and at the bottom there is a combo box with which you can set the Connection Center to Show Always / Show Automatically (this is my setting) / Hide (This is what people without connection problems use). You'll see it's fun and much better than clattering your screen with 13 pop-ups. I hope I'm not breaking any rules by recommending a Release Candidate on this list. I will also not take any responsibility if there is a bug that I don't know about, and that deletes your messages bases, crashes your hard disk, freezes your microwave oven, or puts dirty socks on your keyboard. Or take any resposnsibility whatsoever, for that matter. It's officially still a beta. And I will log off now anyway. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 RC/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging folders containing flagged messages
Hi Allie, On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:01:28 -0500GMT (11/06/2001, 19:01 +0800GMT), A Curtis Martin wrote: ACM How about parked messages then or ones you've specially colour labelled? ACM If you forgot where the message is, this is where the search can also come ACM in. Yes, but: I just want to have an in-the-face indicator of flagged messages. That's all. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 RC/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Complete crash after clicking mailto
Hello Hendrik, On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:29:51 +0200 GMT (12/06/2001, 19:29 +0800 GMT), Hendrik Thaer wrote: I have got problems with my Bat for some time now. When TB! ia already open and I click on a mailto: link the application creates a second instance of TB! and then crashes. No such problem here. There is a mailto link somewhere (I think in the registry), maybe someone else can help how it has to be set. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. That money talks, I'll not deny. I heard it once. It said, good-bye. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: strange (at least to me) behavior on sending to outbox
Hi Nick, On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:48:38 -0700GMT (14/06/2001, 12:48 +0800GMT), Nick Andriash wrote: I get a dialogue box asking if I want to save the message. When I answer yes, the message ends up in the outbox, but it is marked as parked (or whatever one calls the outbox equivalent). This doesn't seem right. NA It does if you wanted the message saved, instead of being sent. No. If you wanted to save it as draft, you would have clicked the icon save draft and not put letter in outbox. I am greatly annoyed by this additional unwanted and unnecessary query. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53bis under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: strange (at least to me) behavior on sending to outbox
Hi Dierk, On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:19:42 +0200GMT (14/06/2001, 15:19 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH I just had a look. I have auto-save enabled, sending deferred. I have auto-save disabled, and sending deferred. And when I hit put letter in outbox it is already clear that I don't mean save draft, otherwise I would have hit that button. I don't need this extra query, I'm not a moron. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53bis under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Memo area to describe Rules/Filters?
Hello Tim, On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:49:38 -0400 GMT (19/06/2001, 22:49 +0800 GMT), Tim Musson wrote: Is there a Memo area in the Sorting Office for individual Rules? So I can keep notes about what the rule does? How do the rest of you note what the rule does? I make the name of the filter meaningful. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. -I'd like to help you out. Which way did you come in? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB and PCCillin AV (InoculateIT)
Hello andrew, On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:24:27 +0100 GMT (17/06/2001, 08:24 +0800 GMT), andrew wrote: TF You don't need to integrate much. Just activate Realtime Scan in TF PC-Cillin. I use InoculateIT would the procedure be the same? or is there a better way. I don't know, as I have never used InoculateIT. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When nobody is looking, Power Users pretend their mouse is a toy car, and race it around the desk. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT? The bat and HP G95
Hello andrew, On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:50:19 +0100 GMT (15/06/2001, 20:50 +0800 GMT), andrew wrote: But one question which is really more about HP software than The Bat!. HP has a 'scan to email' function but I can't seem to point it at The BAT! I wondered if anyone else had G85/95 and had succeeded in achieving this? I don't know what we have in the office; it's like a fax machine, but the recipient can also be an email address instead of a fax number. It will then scan the docs and send it to the email address as an attached .tif file. The main message is a standard text, saying that you can open the attached message with an application that you can download at www.blablabla. I just send the fax to my own email address, and can forward it with TB. Maybe your HP does soemthing similar as our Internet Fax Machine? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. -There is intelligent life on Earth, but I'm just visiting. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problems with new version download 1.53bis
Hello David, On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:55:15 -0400 GMT (16/06/2001, 02:55 +0800 GMT), David Robert Austen wrote: I was very happy to see the new version 1.53bis, but installing it has been a small disaster. I believe I had the most recent previous version of The Bat and so I overwrote that. FTP and HTTP version downloads both give the same result. Can somebody suggest something? Saw your message twice, but no reply. So I take a wild guess: are you downloading with Netscape? Netscape is known to cause problems when used for downloading compressed files. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. -The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: uninstall please
Hello Silviu, On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:22:58 +0300 GMT (20/06/2001, 01:22 +0800 GMT), Silviu Cojocaru wrote: I continue to learn. Can I assume Tweakui is a 3rd party appl? If so, can u point me to a URL so I can read about it? TIA It's a free tool from M$. It should be on your windows CD. I was recently warned that the version on the CD is buggy. Download the fixed version (freeware!) from: http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstation/downloads/PowerToys/Networking/NTTweakUI.asp Even though it says NT, it is actually the version that also works under Win98. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. He who hesitates is probably right. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Files ending in .msg
Hello Dierk, On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:36:33 +0200 GMT (20/06/2001, 01:36 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: You need the new version (12.53bis). There you go to Options/Preferences/Applications. You're ahead of time. The latest is 1.53d. Verseion 12.xx is not due until February 2023 (if they keep the schedule, that is). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. One horsepower is the amount of energy it takes to drag a horse 500 feet in one second Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Unnerving sigs
Hi Karin, On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:53:44 +0200GMT (20/06/2001, 07:53 +0800GMT), Karin Spaink wrote: KS Randomly? Really? All too often I wonder. All too often I KS giggle because the - randomly appended - sig matches the KS subject matter all too closely, I confirm this. (No, I don't use cookies on this office computer, but at home.) I challenged Maxxx to run a test on the theroy of the cookies being chosen in relation to the contents (or subject) of a mail, as he critised the randomiser than randomises in a non-mathematical way. I am still waiting for the results. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53bis under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Unnerving sigs
Hi Dierk, On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:17:44 +0200GMT (20/06/2001, 15:17 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: and it still happens. Look below (not fixed) g DH Since I can't actually see why RITLabs should put a very difficult DH semantical matcher into its code, I think it is pure coincidence You don't know the basics of a good and healthy paranoia. DH The problem with human perception especially when coincidence is DH involved is that we try as hard as we can to find a pattern. I disagree. I don't need to try hard. And I don't think my perception is a problem. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas (safely without cookies on the office machine) Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending Problems
Hi Jason, On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:19:24 -0500GMT (20/06/2001, 21:19 +0800GMT), Jason Hannah wrote: JH I have The Bat 1.53bis, and when I send any mail that is bigger than JH 1.4Kb, it gets stuck and won't send. I know that it's not my mail JH provider, because I've sent the same exact email with another program JH just to test it. The progress bar on the connection centre window JH will say something like Transfer: [2,228 bytes / 2,227 bytes], which JH but then it will hang there, and the message does NOT get sent. Let me ask you three questions: 1.) How much RAM do you have? 2.) Under Account / Properties / Fuiles directories, did you or did you not activate the radio button for Bind Attachments only when sending out? 3.) Do you hit Send the letter when you finish typing? In that case, try to Put letter in Outbox and send from there. I assume that TB is trying to load the whole message (with attachment) into RAM. I don't know whether questions 2 has anything to do with it, though. TB is able to send message with very big attachments - somebody just posted a screenshot of a successful sending of an attachment with over 200MB (200 meg) on one of the TB lists a few days ago. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backing up?
Hi Richard, On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:53:58 +0100GMT (21/06/2001, 07:53 +0800GMT), Richard Lane wrote: RL Do I just need to copy across the entire C:\Program Files\The Bat! RL directory and contents and copy these back? That one and the registry key HKCU / Software / RIT and you're done. Without that registry key, you loose a lot of your settings, as well as your registration. So, if you didn't back up the registry key but have a hard copy of your TB registration, all you need to do is type in the registration by hand (Help / Registration) and adjust settings (such as windows sizes etc). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB! V1.53bis - virus report
Hi Marck, On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:46:15 +0100GMT (21/06/2001, 09:46 +0800GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: JR The following was logged by PC-Cillin Anti-Virus program on my JR machine: JR 18:50:42,C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat157.tmp,PE_Magistr.A,Unable to clean. Infected file was quarantined.,Administrator,Real-time Scan I had exactly the same today (again). MDP 1) You're safe. This virus has to be executed to infect you. Saving it MDPto disk won't hurt. PC-Cillin won't allow to save it. ;-) MDP 2) You may be in a loop. You have been sent the virus. TB is receiving MDPthe infected file. No, it is not a loop. If you have automatic check every xxx minutes set, then you will get this message each time TB tries to download the infected message. In my case, every 5 minutes. MDP 4) This may force TB to try and get the message again and fail to MDPcomplete the download each time. Exactly. In order to stop this error message from occurring and the PC-Cillin warning to pop up, you need to delete the message direclty on the server. You can do it with TB's own message despatcher (untick receive, but tick delete), or pine, or the web interface if your provider offers one. The problem is that neither PC-Cillin nor TB tell you which account this infected file is on, and you have to check your account logs for this error message: !21/06/2001, 10:37:31: FETCH - [Inbox] could not store message (file name - C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\bat5122.TMP) You still don't know which email it is, so if there are many on the server, you will have to go looking. Of course, you could also disable PC-Cillin and download the infected file. As long as you don't run it, you are safe. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a solution
Hi Raj, On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:38:48 +0530GMT (21/06/01, 11:08 +0800GMT), Raj wrote: R I want to set up a filter where in the 'Action' is to forward the mail to R the Mailing List software ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). I did set it up, but the reply to R path is still my e-mail id and not that of the subscriber. Hence the confirmation requests R come back to me instead of going to the subscriber. In the forward template, use: %From= %From=%OFromAddr %Reply-To= %Reply-To=%OFromAddr This will work only if your SMTP server allows the message through, though. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MailTicker not showing up
Hi Dierk, On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:54:20 +0200GMT (21/06/01, 14:54 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH My machine has a Matrox G400 DH (32MB), a PII (233 MHz), and the rest DH you find in the sig. I don't know Matrox, but if that is a RAM maker, 32MB seems awfully little. Combine that with a Win95, and I have my suspicions. How much RAM on the other machine(s) on which the ticker doesn't work? What OS? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MailTicker not showing up
Hi Dierk, On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:06:57 +0200GMT (21/06/2001, 17:06 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH Matrox is one of the bigger companies building graphics adapters. 32 DH MB is the RAMDAC of my graphics card. Still think it is awfully DH little? Oops, no. ;-) Unless this graphics card is not comptiable, I have no further ideas. MT works fine over here. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB! V1.53bis - virus report
Hi Jan, On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:37:47 -0400GMT (21/06/2001, 21:37 +0800GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: Thomas In order to stop this error message from occurring and the PC-Cillin Thomas warning to pop up, you need to delete the message direclty on the Thomas server. You can do it with TB's own message despatcher [...] JR I remember there was a way to do this within TB! but I've forgotten JR how. Can you help me with instructions, please. TIA Account / Despatch Mail on Server / All Messages. Untick receive and tick delete for the offending message, and then proceed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Default dial up isp
Hello John, On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 06:29:47 +1000 GMT (24/06/2001, 04:29 +0800 GMT), John Phillips wrote: How do I control which is the default dial up isp for my two mail accounts? Choice one: Options / Network Admin / Dail-Up Network connection. Choice two: Is under Accont / Properties / Network. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wear short sleeves! Support your right to bare arms! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: text or something else?
Hello Benson, I am quoting you in full, because many people will nto have seen your message. You have replied to an old message deep inside a thread. If you wish all member of this list to see your message, it is always best to hit new message instead of replying to an old one and just deleting the text. As to your question, TB creates fully RFC-compliant plain-text messagers. I suggest you hit shft-crtl-K, which will show all headers, and then forward the whole message to their support email address and aks them what is the problem. Please let us know what they reply. On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:37:51 -0400 GMT (24/06/2001, 08:37 +0800 GMT), Benson Wills wrote: Anyone ever get this response from a mail system after sending a TB! message? All I did was type and send a plain text message (or so I thought!) Hello, The vBulletin issue system is unable to process your email due to the following errors. Error message(s): Unrecognised email format - please resend message as plain text, or use the online web forms at vBulletin.com. Please correct the error in input and resend the email to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Or use the online form at: http://www.vbulletin.com/contact/ -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Many people quit looking for work when they find a job. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Default dial up isp
Hello John, On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:01:37 +1000 GMT (24/06/2001, 17:01 +0800 GMT), John Phillips wrote: Just curious - what does the %ACCOUNT= macro do? Does it spoof the headers so that a controlled mailing list (I have one that checks that I dial out on rivernet.com.au, but I actually use bigpond.com, and it checks for rivernet) gets the right information? No. It actually uses the account you specify, with all settings (including From, Reply-To, Network settings, and SMTP Server). If you just want to change From and Reply-To addresses, you can use the macros %From= and %Reply-To= . -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TheBat Crashing - a bug ?
Hello Mac, On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:10:45 +0200 GMT (24/06/2001, 19:10 +0800 GMT), Homesick Mac wrote: MDP Another thing you can try is to either use the TB backup routines or MDP to zip up the mail folders and keep the HKCU/RIT registry key safe. MDP Once you have done that you can uninstall TB and delete the registry MDP key. Then you can try a virgin install and see if that crashes in the MDP same way. I did this. I backed up my accounts, uninstalled but kept the Registry entries. Installed the 1.53d again. Started without any other app running, it crashed. I uninstalled with the old uninstaller ( 1.53d comes without any, right ? ), now with the option of deleting everything. I did thefollowing once, as people on this list reported it helped also them: Back up the TB subdirectories (and for good measure also the TB main directory), and uninstall completely. Make a fresh install, do not use any backed-up regsitry key. You will lose a lot of settings, and you will also lose your regustration. Type your registration into Help / Registration. I hope you kept the mail with the alphanumeric key when you registred. Copy the subdirectories back into the TB directory to have access to your mailbase. Create accounts with the same names as the originals, and TB will find the settings (POP and SMTP servers etc etc). Hit shft-crtl-alt-L to make TB find the folders. This worked here. The reason was a currupt registry (or registry key). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. ultracrepidarian: (n., adj.) a person who gives opinions beyond his scope of knowledge. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem about list
Hello Dierk, On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:38:38 +0200 GMT (24/06/2001, 23:38 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: When I read your message I saw who wrote it (you), but not to whose message your answer was written. But I can't see that it is wrong, Tis is a matter of philosophy, and a number of people on this list post without any real name before the TBUDL lsit address. However, for those who choose to write Dierk Haasis on TBUDL, whihc is what I prefer, the list server shouldn't interfer, unless it is a list rule (which it isn't here). Having said that, tomorrow is a holiday in many parts of Asia (Dragon Boat Festival), but I don't know about Indonesia. So, if we don't hear from Syafril within tomorrow, I suggest everybody just be patient for another day. ;-) comes from the old Usenet habit to read all postings before making a fool of oneself. ;-) You read all postings first, and then make a fool of yourself afterwards? Good habit, I agree. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. -I'm not going deaf. I'm ignoring you. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Address book
Hello JOANNE, On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:47:17 -0700 GMT (25/06/2001, 10:47 +0800 GMT), JOANNE VIRANT wrote: OK, I CREATE NEW MESSAGE. Where it says TO, at the right are 3 little options. The 1st is a VIEW HISTORY LIST. I can start an email from there. The 2nd ia a blue arrow and says 'add to address book. Add what? If I right click, I get the list, but can only select one name at a time, what a hassle. The 3rd brings up an empty address book. I cannot reproduce this. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 6. Ingrown toenails are hereditary. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disappearing 'Cool hints'
Hello Quin, On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 03:00:49 -0600 GMT (25/06/2001, 17:00 +0800 GMT), Quin Selman wrote: DvZ Yes I can confirm this although I haven't turned it on normally. When DvZ I turn it on in the preferences and I restart TB!, it doesn't show the DvZ 'cool hints'. I just turned them on and they are working without having to restart. Are they still working when you restart? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with attachment (thebat v1.53)
Hello Kåre, On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:01:56 +0200 GMT (25/06/2001, 18:01 +0800 GMT), Kåre H. Tornes wrote: People are trying to send me an email with 5 attached EPS-files. I receive the attachments in the Attach-catalog, but they are not visible in the mail. Someone know what the problem is? Try upgrading to the latest version 1.53d. Somebody just said on another list that something about attachments was fixed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 18. Donald Duck's middle name is Fauntleroy. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thebat license transfer
Hello Malcolm, On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:16:03 -0400 GMT (25/06/2001, 23:16 +0800 GMT), Malcolm L Wiseman Jr wrote: I had a laptop failure, and I need to re-install the bat in another laptop. My most recent backup doesn't include the bat software or license. Right now I'm using a new un-licensed version that a downloaded for their site. How do I recapture my previous licensed status? If you kept the email with the registration data (I printed mine out), you just type it in again under Help / Enter Registration code. If you have a backup of your registry, just import the key HKCU / Software / RIT. Your settings are in there, as well as your licence. If you didn't keep your registration code, or didn't back up your registry, you have to ask the The Bat! vendor (likely CIF Net) to send you a copy. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. How do you tell when you run out of invisible ink? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALL MAIL in my BAT InBox has disappeared (except very latest download)
Hi David, On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:22:50 -0400GMT (26/06/2001, 02:22 +0800GMT), David Robert Austen wrote: DRA Everything in my BAT InBox has disappeared again (except very latest DRA download). Same here. Not the Inbox, but one of my folders. The file messages.tbb has vanished. The file messages.tbi told me that there were 5 news messages in there. That was last Thursday. I hadn't done any compress or purge action. Today, upon startup, same folder, new problem: both files (*.tbb and *.tbi) gone. I have now deleted the folder, and created a new one. Weird it is indeed. See my version in the sig; stand-alone. Never had this problem before. Happened only with one folder out of 22 in one of my 8 accounts, so I didn't report it as a bug. Let's see whether it happens again tomorrow morning, after I have now re-created the folder. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check log for details
Hi Alexander, On 27 Jun 2001 12:59:03 +0500GMT (27/06/2001, 15:59 +0800GMT), Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote: AAG I've got in log panel the message AAG Some messages were not sent- check log for details AAG Well... And where is it ? Account / View Log Or: shft-crtl-A -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Edit mail message - ...@... window ?
Hi Rob, On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:25:25 +0200GMT (27/06/2001, 15:25 +0800GMT), Rob wrote: R as far as i remember, it just used to put the letter in the outbox without R questions ... is this a new feature ? You haven't read the lists much lately, have you? This new feature is happily done away with in the latest version (1.53d). Kindly download at any time now. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time of reply (was Re[2]: Check log for details)
Hi David, On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:24:30 +0100GMT (27/06/2001, 15:24 +0800GMT), David Elliott wrote: DE Your time header looks a bit odd one part is +0500 GMT and +0800GMT On 27 Jun 2001 12:59:03 +0500GMT (27/06/2001, 15:59 +0800GMT), Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote: Alexander sent his message in time zone +0500 GMT (where is was 12:59 at the time, locally), whereas I live in time zone +0800 GMT (where it was 15:59 at the same time, locally). Three hours time difference, whichever way you want to see it. What is odd about this? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check log for details
Hi Alexander, On 27 Jun 2001 14:34:12 +0500GMT (27/06/2001, 17:34 +0800GMT), Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote: AAG Well... Good joke :)) Not a joke. The answer is in exactly that log, a few lines up from that error messages. You can post the relevant part of your log here, and we'll analyse it for you, if you want. AAG The matter is that the message Some messages were not sent- check log AAG for detailsexactly from THAT log AAG And my question is: DOES exist another LOG, which references THAT log. No, this is *the* log. Make sure that [ ] Higlights only is *not* ticked. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: C.C. - task progress
Hi William, On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:34:37 +0100GMT (28/06/2001, 18:34 +0800GMT), William Moore wrote: WM I know TB! is good but was I mistaken or did I see 101% in the WM 'task progress' part of the connection centre dialogue? That's were you see how good it *really* is! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newby
Hi John, welcome! On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:53:36 -0700GMT (29/06/2001, 10:53 +0800GMT), John McKane wrote: JM Is there any soure of a manual or guide for TB? Maybe a dumb ?! The help file is pretty good, then there is the FAQ file at http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com , and then is this list. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: empty User field, no error message though
Hello Radek, On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:01:34 +0200 GMT (30/06/2001, 15:01 +0800 GMT), Radek Pytlik wrote: RP I discovered that leaving empty User ID field in Account RP Properieties|Transport produces _no_ error message and doesn't write RP anything suspicious into the Account Log. RP Anyone can confirm this? No. I deleted the User so that it was blank, and upon mailcheck I heard the error sound and the following error message appeared in the log: !30/06/2001, 16:20:09: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR Permission denied -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf einer Tute Fritos (Chips): Sie koennten schon gewonnen haben! Kein Kauf noetig! Details innenliegend. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Printable documentation
Hello Mark, On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 10:09:05 -0400 GMT (30/06/2001, 22:09 +0800 GMT), Mark A. Chalkley wrote: MAC Is there any printable documentation available for TB!? Or am I MAC missing something really obvious... Yes; you can print out the help file. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. OK, so what's the speed of dark? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Word wrap
Hello John, On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:17:56 -0700 GMT (01/07/2001, 00:17 +0800 GMT), John McKane wrote: JM About word wrap. I just have been using what word uses normally as JM well as OE. I have noticed that it might be necessary to change some JM word wrap settings. Currently in PGP options, e-mail, I have JM unchecked the word wrap box. Is this affecting BT's word wrap and my JM signing my e-mails. OE has a what-you-see-is-by-far-not-what-you-get (WYSIBFNWYG) editor. What is on your screen when you hit send is not what will be sent. That's why PGP has to help out and rewrap before actually sending. TB, on the other hand, has a true WYSIWYG-editor, and thus the help from PGP is not required. You can safely turn word-wrap off in PGP when you use TB. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Change is inevitableexcept from vending machines. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printable documentation
Hello Nick, On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:17:34 -0700 GMT (01/07/2001, 00:17 +0800 GMT), Nick Andriash wrote: Yes; you can print out the help file. ;-) NA Actually, you can't print the Help File. Oops, I thought you could. NA I think the initial request was for documentation that could be printed NA out... a Manual of sorts, and as far as I can see, that is not available. If you *could* print out the help file, it would be a good manual. Is this a mini-bug, or do we have to hand in a feature request? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For drowning: Climb on top of the person and move up and down to make artificial perspiration. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing message threads
Hello Joanne, On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:56:24 -0700 GMT (01/07/2001, 02:56 +0800 GMT), Joanne Virant wrote: JV where is the *context* menu please? The context menu is the menu that pops up when you right-click. It depends on the context, i.e. where your mouse-cursor is when you right-click. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. OK, so what's the speed of dark? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Duplicate mails
Hi Mars, On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 17:58:34 -0230GMT (02/07/2001, 04:28 +0800GMT), Mars Descent wrote: I would be a good thing, but I don't think that it actually happens. Several times I have lost a connection and had the whole set of previously downloaded messages download again. MD Have you been able to remove them all quickly? The Bat! has a functionality remove dupes in all folders. Look under Folders in the main menu. Works very fast. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ALL MAIL in my BAT InBox has disappeared (except very latest download)
Hi List, I am following up on an old threat, because the mystery of the disappearing mails (who message.tbb file) has just been solved. It is *not* a TB bug. Fullquote to follow (to remind everybody of the problem), and after that the explanation why the folder disppeared, and how to make it re-appear. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:28:30 +0800GMT (26/06/2001, 11:28 +0800GMT), Thomas F wrote: TF Hi David, TF On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:22:50 -0400GMT (26/06/2001, 02:22 +0800GMT), TF David Robert Austen wrote: DRA Everything in my BAT InBox has disappeared again (except very latest DRA download). TF Same here. Not the Inbox, but one of my folders. The file messages.tbb TF has vanished. The file messages.tbi told me that there were 5 news TF messages in there. That was last Thursday. I hadn't done any compress TF or purge action. TF Today, upon startup, same folder, new problem: both files (*.tbb and TF *.tbi) gone. TF I have now deleted the folder, and created a new one. Weird it is TF indeed. See my version in the sig; stand-alone. Never had this problem TF before. Happened only with one folder out of 22 in one of my 8 TF accounts, so I didn't report it as a bug. Let's see whether it happens TF again tomorrow morning, after I have now re-created the folder. And this is the explanation: I save attachments in message body. One of these attachments contained a virus. At the time I received the email with the attachment (embedded in a legitimate .doc file), this virus was not known to PC-Cillin, so it got saved to disk. (I apparently didn't read the Word file ... ;-)) Now, after update of PC-Cillin, the real-time scan will detect this virus in the file messages.tbb and of course quarantine the whole file - put the complete folder's message base under arrest. The file message.tbb is quarantined, and TB has no access any more. How to get it back: 1.) After closing TB, restore the file messages.tbb from quarantined to normal status from within PC-Cillin. It will be put back right where it belonged, but with and including the virus. 2.) Shut off PC-Cillin. This is to avoid PC-Cillin quarantining the file again while you at it in the following steps. 3.) Open TB, mark all messages (by way of context menu) and export them as *.msg files. In my case, I had 1376 individual *.msg files in my Windows\tmp directory now. 4.) Open PC-Cillin, scan the tmp directory. The email with the virus will be indified (virus detected in file 128.msg) - and quarantined. 5.) Restore the quarantined file right away. 6.) Open the file in a text viewer. (You cannot do that if you don't resotre it.) Print the headers out, as these give you the means to identify the message from within TB. 7.) Shut down PC-Cillin. 8.) Open TB, delete the email which you have identified with the headers, and compress the folder (so that it is really deleted). 9.) Delete the *.msg file in the tmp directory, so that the virus is off your computer. 10.) Restart PC-Cillin. Run a virus check. Everything is fine now. The folder does not contain the offending virus any more and will not be quarantined any more. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ALL MAIL in my BAT InBox has disappeared (except very latest download)
Hi Stanislav, On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:38:50 +0600GMT (02/07/2001, 14:38 +0800GMT), Stanislav Okhvat wrote: SO Thanks for your reply. SO What is PC-Cillin? I assume it's a program much like other virus SO scanners. Correct. SO We do have Antiviral Toolkit Pro installed and it might cause SO something similar. However, we lost approximately 2 gigs of SO messages physically, that is there was no trace whatsoever of any SO files, quarantined or not. I don't know about your program. But with PC-Cillin, I have the options to quarantine infected files, or to delete them. I quarantine them (unless the virus can be cleaned, then I use that option). Maybe you have set the options in your antivirus program so that it deletes infected files? SO Then the issue of an existing bug is still there. Maybe, maybe not. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next message after moving
Hi Shot, On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 03:08:37 +0200GMT (02/07/2001, 09:08 +0800GMT), Shot wrote: S I have a question - when I move a message to another folder (via S Message | Move to folder...) The Bat! automagically opens next message S in the folder of origin (which opens separate window). S Is there a way to make The Bat! return to the folder (rather than S open next message)? No, there is no option setting for this. I also cannot think of a workaround at the moment. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Automatic input of an email address
Hello Mac, On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 16:11:15 +0200 GMT (02/07/2001, 22:11 +0800 GMT), Homesick Mac wrote: HM Works great _but_ TB wouldn't input his e-mail address in the to field when I HM hit Ctrl-N or if I click on the icon for the New Message. This asumes that his HM folder is highlighted/marked when doing this. HM Is there a way to do this ? If you want TB to insert his address when you start a new message in the folder, you have to use the macro %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the folder template for new message. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I am not hungry enough to eat siz. (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking
Hello john, On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:32:50 -0400 GMT (03/07/2001, 00:32 +0800 GMT), john wrote: j I just downloaded ver 1.53d demo after a long while of not using j The Bat! I password protected my accounts and viewed the j messages.tbb file with a text editor , to my horror I could read j the mail!! j What has happened? There were problems with the necryption a few few ago, and it was decided that no encryption is better than a weak encryption, giving a false sense of security. j Is there a workaround to get mail encrypted on the hard drive? PGPDisk is your friend. Or SecureBat! (see www.ritlabs.com), but that requires a hardware token. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The colder the X-ray table, the more of your body is required on it. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: bat not secure any more? messages.tbb can be read after locking
Hello john, On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 14:38:37 -0400 GMT (03/07/01, 02:38 +0800 GMT), john wrote: j I ended up downloading a program called Encryption Plus from PC j Guardian. URL? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The hardness of the butter is directly proportional to the softness of the bread. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: beat this seems like spam to me
Hi Mac, On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 23:44:55 +0200GMT (03/07/2001, 05:44 +0800GMT), Homesick Mac wrote: HM Here's how it happened. When I closed TB and thought about turning off the HM PC, the little window by PC Cillin was up there on my desktop saying HM Virus found listing the path to the TB directory, and into the Attach HM folder. Yeah, the little problem with the PC-Cillin / TB combination is that you never know which mail exactly cotnained the virus. You don't even know which account was effected. HM Now, what I don't know is if the virus maybe came with some other message, I HM get quite enough spam and it doesn't have to be TBUDL I've got it from, HM eah ? Right. I didn't get the virus notification, so I don't think it was the posting here that caused the alarm on your machine. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Don't Send Chema's PGP keys
Hi Jernej, On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:10:04 +0200GMT (03/07/2001, 15:10 +0800GMT), Jernej Simonèiè wrote: JS John Hamnett (who started this thread) requested PGP keys, but JS incorrectly addressed his e-mail, (He may be trouted for using folder templates.) JS so the keys were automatically sent not only to him, but also to JS the list. And this will continue for every message containing the subject SendMyPGPkeys. Chema wants to overthink his algorithm. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Don't Send Chema's PGP keys
Hi Joanne, On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 00:22:03 -0700GMT (03/07/2001, 15:22 +0800GMT), Joanne Virant wrote: JV thanks you for the explanation. I thought something was stuck for JV a minute. Well, actually, it look like it is. Chema same message JV has came to me at least 5 times. So do I dare say they are stuck? His autoresponder is stuck: it will resend the key to this list as often as there is a message with the subject SendMyPGPkeys coming in. That's why I have changed the subject. I wonder whether the message his bot sends to the list will trigger the bot to send the key again ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT: Virus-catching by PC-Cillin (was: beat this seems like spam to me)
Hello Jan, On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:37:30 -0400 GMT (03/07/2001, 21:37 +0800 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR So what do you do if you get a PC-cillin quarantine msg? If the PC-Cillin window pops up while I check mail, I check the account logs for the below error message, which I psoted on this list as an example, with message-ID [EMAIL PROTECTED]: !21/06/2001, 10:37:31: FETCH - [Inbox] could not store message (file name - C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\bat5122.TMP) I then use the despatcher to delete the message from the server. If the virus is already in the message base (because PC-Cillin didn't run when the message was downloaded or whatever), I have posted a step-by-step instruction how to identify the message (out of thousands) with message-ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] yesterday. f'up2TBOT -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Planet: A body of Earth surrounded by sky. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: beat this seems like spam to me
Hi Mac, On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 01:56:15 +0200GMT (04/07/2001, 07:56 +0800GMT), Homesick Mac wrote: HMQuarantine - Delete - Pass - Rename HMHere I could maybe chose Pass and later scan the whole TB directory. It HMmight work. ironic mode You can also turn of PC-Cillin altogether. It would have the same effect. /ironic mode -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: beat this seems like spam to me
Hi Allie, On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 18:39:04 -0500GMT (04/07/2001, 07:39 +0800GMT), A Curtis Martin wrote: ACM Wouldn't the anti-virus program have to be optimised to handle TB message ACM bases in order to locate and extract just the virus from the message base ACM file? Otherwise it will delete the entire message base when you ask that ACM the infected file be deleted. Correct. For any AV-program, the whole message base is one file. In order to identify the message with the attachment in its body, you have export all messages, which makes them seperate *.msg files. And then scan these individual files. ACM The only way I can see you knowing exactly which message is infected is ACM when the message is scanned upon receipt No, because the error message will identify the file bat1276.tmp as the infected one. Yes, this is the message, but you don't know right away which one it is. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: beat this seems like spam to me
Hi Allie, On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 21:40:35 -0500GMT (04/07/2001, 10:40 +0800GMT), A Curtis Martin wrote: TF No, because the error message will identify the file bat1276.tmp as TF the infected one. Yes, this is the message, but you don't know right TF away which one it is. ACM So what do you do in that situation? Manually inspect all your recently ACM downloaded mail? No, I check the account logs for the error message couldn't rigfht to inbox or something. See my mail of last night. Then I go into that account with the mail despatcher, and have not had a problem identifying the offending message by sight. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Setting up Send Key Filter
Hi Dierk, On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 08:56:54 +0200GMT (04/07/2001, 14:56 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH I meant the subject line: In my case the key does not come back with a DH Re: SendMyPGPKeys but with the changed one You requested my PGP DH keys. I even use a personalised greeting line. You have programmed algorithms for personal replies? Isn't that an oxymoron? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %#^} Autoresponder
Hello John, On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 20:19:05 +1000 GMT (04/07/2001, 18:19 +0800 GMT), John Phillips wrote: %IF %TO=;%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED];%TO=%TO JP Being completely utterly computer illiterate (alas, I started with CP/M then JP Trash Dos just didn't see the future - sigh), what does this mean / do? Either it starts your coffee machine and resets your VCR, or it sets the TO field (recipient) of your email to TBUDL@... if, and only if, there is nothing in that field (i.e. no other recipient already inserted). One of the two, I am not sure myself. (In fact, it's ingenious in it's simplicity and effectivity. Nice coding, Chema!) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Le travail est l'opium du peuple et je ne veux pas mourir drogue. (Boris Vian) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %#^} Autoresponder
Hello Chema, On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 14:05:51 +0200 GMT (04/07/2001, 20:05 +0800 GMT), Chema Berian wrote: CB In fact, the coding was made by my wife. She has become a TB CB guru in hardly two months. Wow, give her my I tip o' th' hat! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Get a new car for your spouse--it'll be a great trade! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: What are these?
Hello John, On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 13:02:58 +1000 GMT (08/07/2001, 11:02 +0800 GMT), John Phillips wrote: Those are someone's goofs. They should be #151; and #153; to correspond to HTML's em dash and trademark symbol. Windows users can also use alt+0151 and alt+0153 to create the same symbols. JP Where can I get a list of these? You can make one yourself: Open the TB Editor. Type 0153 (without quotes). Type a blank. Hold down your alt-key and type the numbers 0-1-5-3 on your numpad. Release the alt-key. I did it years ago in Word (from alt-0030 to alt-0256) and saved the file as ASCII Character Set.doc. The file has become an often-used reference. I could send you a copy by PM, but be aware that some characters above 0128 might be different on your machine. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 6. Ingrown toenails are hereditary. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: unsubscribe
Hello Dierk, On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 09:55:43 +0200 GMT (08/07/2001, 15:55 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH But an HTML answer on how to in HTML is a bit unnerving. He didn't know it. John replied with an MS product, namely OE, and since the original message was generated in HTML, the reply was generated in HTML as well. Of course, without letting the user know. Suggested solution: use The Bat! in future. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 5. The dot over the letter 'i' is called a tittle. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: What are these?
Hello Ronald, On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 07:03:48 -0400 GMT (08/07/2001, 19:03 +0800 GMT), Ronald Clark wrote: JP For instance in my pc Alt 171 produces ½, but the link you sent JP states 189, or did I misunderstand this? RC The problem must be as Thomas F stated in part: TF but be aware that some characters above 0128 might be different TF on your machine. RC I'm lost for any other reason. The reason I meant is that I run a Chinese Windows, and John might be using some other kind I have never heard of (English?). What actually happened is what Dierk pointed out, namely that John accessed the ANSI-codes (without the preceding zero) instead of the ASCII codes according to the ASCII table I sent him off-list. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf einem Stueck Seife der Firma Dial: Anleitung: Wie normale Seife benutzen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to tie an address book to an account?
Hi Jerry, On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 01:37:32 -0400GMT (09/07/2001, 13:37 +0800GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nnn I have two address books. I have one address book that I want to tie nnn to a specific account. Account / Properties / General / Default address book. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Is there a precise description for macros? (the story of %IF)
Hi Januk, On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:41:01 -0700GMT (09/07/2001, 12:41 +0800GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: SSV - can delimiters be nested? The exemple shows that ' can be used inside of SSV , but what if I want to go deeper? JA Yes you can. Each time, just add another set of quotes. JA The first level uses only one quotation mark: ...or '...' JA The second level uses double delimiters: ... or ''...'' I hate to contradict you, but I think this is not quite correct. When you have two levels, I have noticed that it is important to use different kinds of quotation marks: ... does not work, as it is interpreted as: begin-end ... begin-end What works is this: text 'quoted within' Example: %Wrapped=%Cookies='file.txt' (correct) %Wrapped=%Cookies=file.txt (won't work) ^^ The example shows whether I understood the question right. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Is there a precise description for macros? (the story of %IF)
Hi Januk, On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 00:58:24 -0700GMT (09/07/2001, 15:58 +0800GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: TF %Wrapped=%Cookies=file.txt (won't work) TF ^^ JA Yes, that's what I said. From your example, there are four correct JA options: JA No single quotes JA%Wrapped=%Cookie=file.txt Ah-so deska. Sorry, I thought you meant the (won't work) example should work. So I did misunderstand what you said, and you were correct all along. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to tie an address book to an account?
Hi John, On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:16:55 +1000GMT (09/07/2001, 18:16 +0800GMT), John Phillips wrote: JP Can address books be tied to a folder, by any chance? No; it wouldn't make too much sense. See Marck's reply to Michael Kozusznik. Also, I wouldn't want to maintain over 100 addressbooks! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: a way to delete 'saved as draft' messages?
Hi Charlie, On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:38:01 +1000GMT (09/07/2001, 18:38 +0800GMT), Charlie Laidlaw wrote: CL It is protected from a simple delete, and if i try to drag it to the CL trash, it says 'do you want to MOVE parked messages', and i don't want CL to make that global change. This is not a global change and applies only the the message(s) you have marked. In fact, this is exactly how I delete drafts from the Outbox: drag them to Trash and answer the query with Yes. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cookies questions
Hello Peter, On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:24:50 +0200 GMT (09/07/2001, 20:24 +0800 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP But be aware: if you use the '%wrapped' macro the '\n'-s in the file become PP ignored, or better: they're interpreted and the hole text is 'wrapped' AFTER PP the '\n' are are done, and wrapped does mean re-wrapped 'in the whole'. Workaround: use '\n\n'. This will create two line breaks before wrapping, and our wrapping macro looks only at the first paragraph. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mails getting lost?
Hello Marck, On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:47:49 +0100 GMT (11/07/2001, 17:47 +0800 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP There *are* messages going missing outbound - or sometimes they're MDP having chunks removed or repeated in the headers. This seems to be an MDP interaction between the list traffic and postfix/sendmail relay MDP servers in the outbound route. Maybe it has to do with the word RIT having become a keyword at Echelon? see: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/19347.html -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The severity of the itch is inversely proportional to the ability to reach it. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing glyphs
Hello Karl, On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:20:21 -0400 GMT (12/07/01, 22:20 +0800 GMT), Browning, Karl wrote: BK The question is: where can I get a copy of glyphs.bmp that has the standard BK glyphs in it? The standard glyphs are in the exe. Only if you have a glyphs.bmp file in your TB directory, will the standard as per exe be overridden. If you want to create your own, it is a good idea to get one of the glyphs file around, and modify that one. The position and size of each glyph is important for TB to know where to use it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! cable config.
Hello daveiw, On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:14:58 +0100 GMT (11/07/2001, 03:14 +0800 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dcn Thank you for your reply, am I correct in assuming that this would be dcn enough to allow me 'live' e-mail? You also have to send+check messages regularly. for me, that's every 5 minutes on this account, and live enough for me. Others complained early that TB couldn't check in periods of less than one minute, so that's why they have introduced seconds-steps. That sho0uld be live enough for everyone. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. There is a CD out entitled The Worst of Jefferson Airplane. If you buy this, take it home, play it, and enjoy it, should you take it back and demand a refund? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: cookies ??
Hello Shahar, On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:54:25 +0200 GMT (10/07/2001, 17:54 +0800 GMT), Shahar wrote: If I have a cookie sized 2 or 3 lines, how do I handle that in the template? S %WRAPPED=%COOKIE Either that, or you use \n in the cookie for a line break. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For drowning: Climb on top of the person and move up and down to make artificial perspiration. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: filtering
Hello Dan, On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:28:27 -0700 GMT (11/07/2001, 02:28 +0800 GMT), Dan Kalafus wrote: DK Just to check though: a filter which checks for (say) DK string = ncg@ DK location = sender DK presence = yes DK ...should pick up any message with ncg@ anywhere in the sender line, DK correct? (e.g. both [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] )? Yes, in the Sender line or the From line. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Planet: A body of Earth surrounded by sky. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! V1.53d - HEEEEEEEEEEELPP_!!!!@#
Hello Jan, On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:54:18 -0400 GMT (11/07/2001, 22:54 +0800 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JRSuddenly TB! is minimised in system tray won't come out. Dunno about this. May you have resized it with some Windows keybaord shortcut to a total size of zero? You may have done it unwittingly, because your keyboard seems to be broken (especially the E key, but also other keys repeat, and random characters are sadded at the end). JRMoreover, I cannot retrieve msgs -- Log constantly: JR!7/11/2001, 10:49:58: FETCH - Could not connect to the server I have this sometimes with myrealbox.com. It is not a TB problem, but rather that the server is down or overlaoded. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mails getting lost?
Hello Dierk, On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:38:06 +0200 GMT (13/07/2001, 00:38 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH But they don't kill mails, they get them, copy them and send them on DH (Technically it is a bit more complicated, but the point is: Mails may DH get delayed for a few secs, but not lost.). Just a few seconds... I didn't know how it works. I thought they read the mails before they are let through. DH BTW, officially the German Echelon facility in Pullach (should ring a DH bell for the German users!) is in the process of being closed down. Maybe they're just moving? Anyway, Europe is making its own version: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/20239.html -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf einem Foen von Sears: Nicht wahrend des Schlafes benutzen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Friday the 13th bug?
Hello TBUDL! The following happened to me, and I don't have an explanation. However, I would like to know whether someone has made the same experience when downloading from Myrealbox with TB. On Friday in the office, I downloaded my ML stuff (from the account @myrealbox.com) just fine, leaving mail on server as usual. When I got home, I couldn't download to my home machine. Connection Center opened, connected to server, got number of messages, and started to download message 1/67, 2882 byte. Speed showed 70 cps. All of 43 bytes of the first message were downloaded, and the download seemed to hang, but speed still showed 70 cps. This was reproducable and still is up to now. During each mail session, TB creates litterally hundreds of files bat.tmp in the Windows\temp directory, with being a hex number in sequence (! - not random as usual). Size of the files is 0. I just counted: 70 such files were created with the time stamp 15:29 today. I delete task or abort the ConCenter (after ten minutes or so, still being at byte 43), and the size of the file to download makes some weird jumps in the display, 2075 - 3856, 2595 etc for a few seconds until the ConCenter really shuts down. I can imagine that these are the sizes of subsequent messages, but don't know. I connected with the mail despatcher instead, in order to just delete the first message. The mail despatcher needs a very long time (over 10 minutes) until it shows me a list of headers with the From, subject, etc information missing (unkown). This is funny because when I try to download straight, the sender of the first message is actually shown in the Connection Center. I tried to delete the first message from server. Take the tickmark off the receive tickbox but leave it in the delete tickbox. Next time I try to download messages, the first message is still the same one, no deletion has happened. I used the telnet application and connected to the smtp server on port 110, and all went well: LIST showed the message list (only the message sizes for some reason, but that can be their setup). RETR 1 shows me a listing of the first message, with headers and all. DELE 1 is my command. Then QUIT. I hit F2 in TB, and TB is again trying to download the same first message. I has not been deleted. OK, webmail. I log in to http://myrealbox.com . The newest messages are shown first, no problem, I read them. I get back to the older ones, and at almost the last page (each page containing a listing of 10 mails), it hangs again. When the pages downloaded into my browser very fast, suddenly I nothing moves anymore. I stop download and try to backtrack or even logout, but my options are down to just closing IE. It appears that only messages received on Friday the 13th cause the problem. Since the POP protocol does not allow skip the first 15 messages, and I have no way of deleting them, my only way out was to create a new account (this one here). I have no problems whatsoever retrieving incoming messages. Does anybody have any explanation? -- Ciao, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Generated with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Friday the 13th bug?
Hello Don, On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 09:39:20 -0400 GMT (15/07/2001, 21:39 +0800 GMT), Don Zeigler wrote: DZ I'm no expert, but I think the explanation is a simple one: all Myrealbox DZ users should have received (I got one Saturday) an email from Myrealbox... That was a day after the problem started, so I haven't downloaded that mail... but thanks. f'up2tbot -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. OK, so what's the speed of dark? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spacebar
Hi Mars, On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:20:56 +00-02GMT (15/07/2001, 21:20 +0800GMT), Mars Descent wrote: MD When I click Spacebar, it reads messages backwards in time, not MD chronologically. No, it reads from top to bottom. That is the reason why I have sorted my messages lists with newest at bottom (sort by Received Time, Descending Order - being a Descent yourself, you should like this). Anyway, if your suggestion is to make spacebar go to the next message _chronologically_, I am with you. MD Can I fix this? And hits a bump when you get to a message.htm, MD some message from Yahoo or some person. No such problem here. MD And also, when you return to the message index, the current MD message you had read is not the one highlighted. Thus a little MD hard to keep track where you are. The mesasage list in the main window and the one when you open a view folder window are not connected. That is by design. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Wishlist: Macros to be run when sending
Hi Eduard, On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 19:11:41 +0200GMT (16/07/2001, 01:11 +0800GMT), Eduard Fabra wrote: EF Or another one for counting the characters of the message just EF sent. Do you mean characters or bytes? Chinese characters are two bytes long. Which, by the way, is something that annoys me about the Connection Center: the speed is in apparently CPS, but reallly in BPS (bytes per second). This is a difference for all languages with a DBCS (double-byte character set), namely CJK (Chinese-Japanese-Korean). I please for a bit more Asia-awareness. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! - wine
Hi Peter, On Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:39:25 +0200GMT (16/07/2001, 03:39 +0800GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP does anyone have experiences using TB! (I'm currently using 1.53d) with PP wine? There were some threads about this in the past, and many people had problems using TB under wine. Check the archives, I think someone got it running. In the archives there should also be the mentioning of another Windows emulator ... I know, wine stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator, but hey - anyway, someone got TB running using something else than wine. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Strange quoted text bug
Hi Yuki, On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:46:04 +0900GMT (17/07/2001, 06:46 +0800GMT), Yuki Taga wrote: YT When quoting certain strings of text, TB! apparently is adding a 'greater YT than' character when it finds such a character in a text line, rather than YT just at the beginning of the line. TB will look whether there is any 'greater than' in the first 20 characters (if you have changed the default), and then treat anything before that as quoting prefix. How can TB know whether or not you 'mean' it this time? ;-) YT Anyone know what's happening here, or how to avoid this? Preferences / Editor Prefs / Quote name limit: 0 characters. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53l under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Date/Time missing...
Hi Miles, On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 06:17:35 -0400GMT (17/07/2001, 18:17 +0800GMT), Miles Alexander wrote: MA Scratch the part about not getting TIME values. I will always get TIME MA values, however, when the Created and Received DATE fields are MA missing, the TIME left-justifies and I end up sorting *some* on actual MA date and *some* on TIME. For those without a date, they are from today. They will have a date tomorrow. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53l under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Date/Time missing...
Hi Miles, On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 06:51:43 -0400GMT (17/07/2001, 18:51 +0800GMT), Miles Alexander wrote: MA So: any transactions that are made *same* day are treated w/o a MA date and *just* the time? No, they are correctly treated with today's date. Only the date is not displayed, so today's mails are easier to spot. MA May I ask why this is done and how I should sort *if* the actual date MA is missing and replaced with the TIME? It is not missing. It is just not displayed. All sorting by received or created date/time still works perfectly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53l under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Spacebar
Hello Mars, On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 06:53:49 -02-30 GMT (17/07/2001, 14:52 +0800 GMT), Mars Descent wrote: MD No matter how I've tried to sort it, I keep finding it reads MD backwards. Must be a way to change the Read direction. Hit ctrl-0 (zero), or go to View / Sort By / Received *and mark Descending*. MD A thread doesn't read well at all backwards. I agree. But here, it works fine. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53l under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Problems opening certain messages in version beyond 1.49 (was: can't print)
Hi Richard, On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:23:23 +0200GMT (18/07/2001, 15:23 +0800GMT), Richard Stephens wrote: RS I will be happy to explain what happens in minute detail if anyone RS wants to listen Port wide open. Status: listening. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53l under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: RFC2231 bug?
Hi Kåre, On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:21:13 +0200GMT (18/07/2001, 21:21 +0800GMT), Kåre H. Tornes wrote: KHT Use TheBat v1.53d here in Norway, and have problems when receiving KHT attacments that have filename with the Norwegian characters ÆØÅ. KHT They get very strange names, and the .doc ending is gone. I do *not* confirm your problem. I receive attachments with Chinese file names, and they are received OK. Please send me (off-list) a message with a attachments that has Norwegian characters, and I will take a look. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53l under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
