Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread masonhock

... Nope. My bad. I went back and did that, after which I was able to run

$ guix package -i hello

(side-note, how does one do code blocks in this forum?)

I now run

$ guix package -A lilypond*

and see Lilypond 2.19.58, which the current unstable version. The current  
stable version is 2.18.2. Lilypond alternates between stable and unstable  
releases, with unstable releases being given odd second version numbers  
(2.17*, 2.19*). Guix probably has no way of knowing this and doesn't  
recognize that 2.19.58 is not a stable release. Can Guix be used to access  
the "older" 2.18.2? Even if not, Guix seems awesome in general and solves  
some other unrelated problems for me.


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread happy_gnu

Did you follow step 4?

https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html#Build-Environment-Setup


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread happy_gnu

Fair enough. I should had chosen my wording better.

What I meant is installation using Guix is completely safe and all the  
packages there would be OK.


Of course that doesn't mean that the bugs that the software has won't be  
there for Guix. Neither that the Guix packages will have more bugs.


Guix packages are as stable as they can be with any other way of installation  
or a little better, because of the reproducible builds.


[Trisquel-users] Re : getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread lcerf
Use Parabola GNU/Linux if that is what you want.  But first read  
https://wiki.parabola.nu/Rolling_vs._LTS to have an answer to your question,  
about the drawbacks of rolling releases.


[Trisquel-users] Re : getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread lcerf
Guix allows rollbacks and so on but that does not mean the programs installed  
through Guix are stable!  They is not in the sense that they are recent  
versions, hence less tested.


[Trisquel-users] Re : deleted ext4 partition

2017-08-10 Thread lcerf
You overwrote with zeros ("if=/dev/zero") the beginning of /dev/sda1  
("of=/dev/sda1"), 2048 blocks ("count=2048") of size 1k ("bs=1k").  2 MB.   
Almost nothing!  There is much to be rescued if you want to: the other  
partitions are intact and a program like PhotoRec can recover almost all  
files on /dev/sda1: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec


But does /dev/sda1 even contain user data?  It makes no sense recovering  
system files: reinstall.  Now if /dev/sda1 only contains user data, there is  
nothing to reinstall: the system is intact.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Studing for a GNU/Linux certification.

2017-08-10 Thread lcerf
C++ is not specific to GNU/Linux.  About Shell scripting, you may have to  
know what is POSIX and what is not (the "Bashisms").


But, as albertoefg wrote, the exam will certainly focus on the working of an  
operating systems in general, on system administration (including the basic  
configuration files: /etc/fstab, /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, /etc/group,  
/etc/shadow, etc.) ... maybe server administration but that would be quite  
unfair since you do not know what kind of servers (Web?, Mail?, etc.) and  
what server in particular (Apache or NGINX?, etc.).


Things definitely missing from albertoefg's list are TCP/IP networks and  
commands relating to networking ('ping', 'tracepath', 'ftp', 'wget', etc.)  
and POSIX commands for file management ('ls', 'cd', 'mv', 'rm', etc.) and  
text processing ('tr', 'cut', 'sort', 'grep', etc.) and their main options.


There may be something on 'sed' (but probably only the 's' command) and/or  
AWK because they are very useful and part of POSIX too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread masonhock

Thanks. I made it to step 8. When I try to run

$ guix package -i glibc-locales

I get

guile: warning: failed to install locale
warning: failed to install locale: Invalid argument
guix package: error: build failed: the group `guixbuild' specified in  
`build-users-group' does not exist


I get the same error if I skip step 8 and run

# guix package -i hello

I did not notice any errors during steps 1-7, and I'm not seeing anything  
when I search for this one. Any ideas?


Re: [Trisquel-users] deleted ext4 partition

2017-08-10 Thread masonhock
Thanks. I reformatted the USB drive and re-burnt the ISO and now I'm able to  
boot it and am installing.


Re: [Trisquel-users] deleted ext4 partition

2017-08-10 Thread legimet . calc
Well, you have a backup, so it's not that bad. Reinstall Trisquel, and  
restore your backup. To boot from your USB drive, just use your BIOS options.  
You can also use GRUB (edit one of the existing entries).


[Trisquel-users] deleted ext4 partition

2017-08-10 Thread masonhock
I think I screwed up really bad. In following a tutorial on clearing a USB  
drive using 'dd' I accidentally typed 'sda' instead of 'sdb' and cleared the  
ext4 partition instead because I am a f*cking idiot. I don't have enough  
knowledge to know exactly how bad this is, but I believe that I just deleted  
everything on my disk. The exact command I used was


$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=1k count=2048

All of my files are backed up, so I hoped that if I could just manage to  
install Trisquel again I'd be okay. However, when I select 'Search ISOLINUX  
Menu (USB)' from the GRUB menu nothing comes up and I am returned to the GRUB  
menu after a few minutes, so I can't even run Trisquel live let alone install  
it.


The bright side is that I've learned a valuable lesson about running commands  
before I understand them, but it would be nice to salvage my computer too.  
How bad is this? What can I do?


Re: [Trisquel-users] trouble configuring nordvpn/openvpn

2017-08-10 Thread chasepc
It's not there unfortunately,  I have the unzipped file in downloads and can  
see all the certificates but none are available in those files you mentioned  
or others when I'm looking for them through network manager.


I tried to extract the files into those folders and get a error message.   
Synaptic package manager says they are installed.  Not sure what I did wrong.  
 I followed the nordvpn instructions properly


Thanks for your help.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread leoo

This issue keeps coming up.

Why?  What is the barrier to keeping already approved software packages  
updated in the repositories?


Why can't the Trisquel project just automatically pull in the software  
package from the Ubuntu or Debian repositories as soon as those are updated?


Is there some self-imposed requirement for a human to personally vet each new  
update to ensure the software remains libre?  If so, that's excessive and the  
costs to reliability and security outweigh the risk of some unfree code  
sneaking in.




Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread andre

https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Installation.html#Installation


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread happy_gnu
Guix uses functional programming (Guile) and a mathematical approach to gave  
reproducible builds no every package is both secure and corruption free.


So don't worry Guix packages are completely stable


Re: [Trisquel-users] PROBLEM: Tor, Firefox, and linux-libre 4.12?

2017-08-10 Thread greatgnu

bump!
still very curious



Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread greatgnu
Frescobaldi! That's without any doubt the best sounding name I ever heard so  
far. Amazing.. Frescobaldi, can you savor the beauty of the sound in  
Frescobaldi?
God dammit, I will need to change my name now, and all of my user names to  
Frescobaldi. Ahh, Frescobaldi.. Amazing. Absolutely amazing.


Frescobaldi





Re: [Trisquel-users] low priced devices which surveillance you

2017-08-10 Thread greatgnu

All Your Baseband Are Belong To Us!

http://www.youtube.com/embed/fQqv0v14KKY


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread andre

I'm referring to Guix


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread masonhock

Thanks, I'll try this.


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread andre

Is it true that if the version number starts with 0 that it's then in beta?


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread masonhock
If you're referring to Lilypond, stable versions have an even second number  
and devel versions have and odd second number. The current stable version is  
2.18 and the current devel version is 2.19.


Re: [Trisquel-users] PROBLEM: Tor, Firefox, and linux-libre 4.12?

2017-08-10 Thread greatgnu

>Plus, not everyone with with a distro using APT is on Debian.

Oh, that was meant for the OP, not you, jxself.
OP is on Debian.


>And so, contrary to what you seem to be implying, I stand by my position  
that there are valid use cases for my APT repository.


I'm not implying anything other than the what I already explicitly 'explied':  
there is no better kernel than the one that is optimized to be as stable and  
compatible as possible for your distro by your distro developers. Same reason  
Trisquaeullo uses da deblobbed Buguntu kernel and not libre linux.


But this is not important. What **is** important is that you don't get me  
wrong and understand that I truly appreciate your work on the libre linux  
kernel and do know your work is very needed and useful indeed. I mean it. I  
did not forget, I am an elephant, how much you helped me with your kernel in  
the past. And I want to renew my proposal of 'Santo Subito' :)

If not santo subito then 'jxself for the president'. :P


Re: [Trisquel-users] What's the best vpn for trisquel

2017-08-10 Thread greatgnu

Yeah, it's a very detailed analysis. yw :)


[Trisquel-users] can a website see from which folder firefox uploads a file?

2017-08-10 Thread gnuser
When using webmail or a forum or something like that, we can use an upload  
feature to send a file from our pc to the website. when we do so, the full  
path becomes visible in the "upload from" window in those pages. I was  
thinking, could it be seen by the site? either directly or using a javascript  
attack to record the temporary input in the said window. is that possible?


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread happy_gnu
You could install Guix the package manager, not the distribution, Frescobaldi  
is part of the repositories and you will get more up-to-date packages :)


[Trisquel-users] getting newer versions of programs/packages in the repository

2017-08-10 Thread masonhock
Many of the packages in the Belenos repository are outdated and I've had to  
install programs without the package manager. For the most part this is less  
convenient but not a huge problem. However, I am a beginner and the messiness  
of doing everything manually is starting to get a little complicated for me.


Both Frescobaldi and Lilypond 2.16.2 are in the repository but, I would like  
to use Lilypond 2.18.2 instead. I installed the latest version from the  
Lilypond website, but Frescobaldi only recognizes version 2.16.2, which the  
package manager requires as a dependency for Frescobaldi. Is there a way to  
force the repository's version of Frescobaldi to use the current version of  
Lilypond, or will I need to build Frescobaldi myself.


Being a beginner, I suspect that there is a smarter way of upgrading/updating  
programs. I actually thought that the point of the package manager was to do  
this automatically, until I noticed how many packages are older versions. Am  
I just using it incorrectly?


Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Studing for a GNU/Linux certification.

2017-08-10 Thread mjmhogg5

If it's a standard certification, it's very likely to be
the "CompTIA Linux+ Certification" !!

Try and get hold of recent(!) Linux+ study guides or workbooks, and
then do as much as you can - there pretty tough though !


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to be free

2017-08-10 Thread andre

At the end of 2014 I decided not to need a mobile phone. I watched:
1  
https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6249_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412271715_-_ss7_locate_track_manipulate_-_tobias_engel
2  
https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6531_-_en_-_saal_6_-_201412272300_-_ss7map_mapping_vulnerability_of_the_international_mobile_roaming_infrastructure_-_laurent_ghigonis_-_alexandre_de_oliveira


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to be free

2017-08-10 Thread masonhock

Great resource. Thank you!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How do you get your books?

2017-08-10 Thread pinmaritim

On the beach again :)
Library at the beach

https://www.anglet-tourisme.com/diffusio/fr/a-voir-a-faire/ocean-plages/sable/anglet/bibliotheque-des-plages_TFOLOIAQU064FS000IM.php



Re: [Trisquel-users] How do you get your books?

2017-08-10 Thread pinmaritim

On the road again :)
http://www.bibliobus.ch/


Re: [Trisquel-users] How do you get your books?

2017-08-10 Thread nuevodesorden

Art Books!

https://archive.org/details/guggenheimmuseum


Re: [Trisquel-users] How do you get your books?

2017-08-10 Thread nuevodesorden

Dictionary of Untranslatables:
A Philosophical Lexicon

I donwloaded interesting articles.

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10097.html

And also i just read about "vending library" :0

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22vending+library%22=ffab=1=images=http%3A%2F%2Feditorial.designtaxi.com%2Fnews-books24062013a%2F2.jpg


Re: [Trisquel-users] Studing for a GNU/Linux certification.

2017-08-10 Thread albertoefg
How can they certificate you in something you don't even know what is about  
:/


Anyway, I'll learn more about Red Hat, Fedora, Ubuntu, Shell Scripting, and  
the way a GNU/Linux system works.


What type of users can it have, what type of permissions
what is /bin/ /dev/ /boot/ /etc/ (I do mean etc)
what is ext4 F2fs btrfs ext3 ext2 and file systems in general
What is ssh and how to use it
What is scp and how to use it
What is a kernel
What is a shell and which types exist
What is a bootloader (grub, syslinux)
What is an init (openrc, sysv)
What is systemd
What is apparmor, SELinux, grsecurity
Maybe learn a little bit about telnet.

How the kernel works, how it treats memory, what is a system call, what is a  
process, (I don't know much, but you get the idea)


Also things related to LAMP servers.


You probably already know all this, but I am trying to be explicit as maybe  
there is something you don't and it will help you.



https://linuxjourney.com/
https://itsfoss.com/learn-linux-for-free/
http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy.pdf
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations
In general the arch wiki is great


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to be free

2017-08-10 Thread sleepruim
I have not owned a mobile phone for two years but I encountered the following  
“inconvinience”:


During my holiday my daughter and I were cycling in the Alps in Italy and  
during a descent she fell. Result: Severe bleeding from the abdomen and 6  
teeth missing I sure was glad someone with such a “tracking device”  
came by to call ambulance.


I also could not send an email to my wife because of the recent server  
downtime of openmailbox


Dont get me wrong: I love freesoftware. I only use libreboot computers with  
parabola, I use openmailbox, I do not own a mobile phone, but this was a  
little too “inconvinient” or would you say this is a case of “liberty  
or death”?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about Libreboot T400 from Minifree

2017-08-10 Thread info

Hi

You can email me and ask this too, but I will answer here.

Yes, most of them have bluetooth by default, and it works perfectly. I use it  
myself, sometimes.


~Leah


[Trisquel-users] Studing for a GNU/Linux certification.

2017-08-10 Thread usernamev . 0
Hello Guys. Today id send a request for a technological Gnu/Linux  
certification in a professional institute from my country. This is a  
knowledge certification for people who has experience in a certain area  
outside of formal education and never got any kind of certification for it.
This will help me to teach free software and maybe to work in places where  
they use free software, or even to work with the government in Free Software  
Migration programs.
Here's the thing. Ive been studding very hard from a couple of months to this  
day, and the told me they will callme when a teacher be available, and then i  
must go and make the test.
I dont know how that test will be, i dont know what kind of teachers this  
institute has (i know they have some teachers from many universities), i dont  
know if it will be a written/theorical/practical/whatever test, and of  
course, i dont know what the hell will they ask me, and i want to be prepared  
for everything.
In my Country at leass de 20% of population has never touched a computer in  
their lives, and from the people who actually uses a computer daily in life  
or work, the 95% barely knows how to use MS Office, including young people  
(also there are a LOT of kids who can perfectly crack any pirated game, but  
anymore than that). But the people who REALLY knows how to use a computer are  
scary people (even if there are 1 in a million literally).
Almost everything i know from computing and GNU/Linux ive learned by myself,  
and by every 2 keys i press on my keyboard some friend of mine calls me  
genius (even if i know im not a genius at all, and still need to learn a  
lot), and im proud of that, but i fear to find a hard-ass demanding  
university teacher to certificate me.
What do you suggest me to practice, study, read, etc, to forget about the  
outworld until the day of the test.
I barely know programming in c++, but im comfortable with Bash Script and  
terminal applications.

My Actual Desktop is Debian 9.1 DE i3-gaps wm.
Im use gnu/linux since ubuntu 8.04 and ive completely remove Windows from all  
my home's computers since about 4 years ago.

I will heard any suggestion.
 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to be free

2017-08-10 Thread gpast_panama
The Zipit is apparently similar to the Pandora:  
https://www.libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Hardware/Freest#Zipit_Z2.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to be free

2017-08-10 Thread gpast_panama

*If* you're making a call, the landline might- but that's not the point.

If an individual leaves the house with their cell phone and goes on an  
outing, the amount of information they have provided to their local  
telecommunications company is staggering. Firstly, the location metadata. Not  
literally pin-pointing an individual doesn't make this weaker:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-24/metadata-what-you-found-will-ockenden/6703626
Then, if a modem rootkit is available, anything from audio recordings to gyro  
or whatnot data- which may very well be sufficient to determine what you type  
on a keyboard- become available, even if you haven't decided to take a single  
call. With a landline, by contrast, the most that can be determined is  
whether or not you have taken any calls placed through, and whether or not  
you placed any calls: much more reasonable.


Of course, the mobile's disadvantage is somewhat the cost of being able to  
connect whilst moving. However, apart from the obvious fact that this doesn't  
make it any less surveilling, the network could likely be done slightly  
better. 


[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel won't boot on a Thinkpad 11E

2017-08-10 Thread pinmaritim
UEFI is Bios firmware that prevents people from installing Freedom :-( ..or  
gives them a hard time..


General principles
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI

https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI

One has to disable certain parametres in the BIOS like disabling secure boot.  
You might also need to disable "fast startup" inside win 8/10 $


UEFI Change Boot Order Tips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM9UyNcSEU0





Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : How to be free

2017-08-10 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 10/08/17 02:17, wrote:
> Even Paul Kocialkowski, Replicant's main developer, explains in his
> conferences that the best solution, in terms of freedom, is to not use
> cell phones:
> https://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/Conferences

 Ha.  Because using fixed phones is better.  Come on guys, we aren't
talking at a bar.  This is Internet.  All of us are connected through
either landlines or microwaves.  Which one tracks you to the more exact
location?

-- 
Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es



Re: [Trisquel-users] Priority free design hardware for free software people

2017-08-10 Thread gpast_panama
Personally, I'd like some sort of (low-power) portable server which, as for  
you, uses a non-geolocalizing network. If it were part of a small PDA-like  
device with an attached light and e-ink screen... that would be a dream come  
true. Every computing need I have a laptop cannot satisfy- portable clock,  
server, on-the-go internet access, and book which you can read in the dark  
without straining your eyes and trying to wrestle with a badly-postioned  
booklight- rolled into one. Sigh...