[twitter-dev] PostDating of twitter messages
Hey guys, I'm working on a project at the moment that will involve a group of 8 people traveling across america. They want to use twitter to post updates throughout the journey, however they are going to be a away from internet access for some time. I was thinking we could have a computer go with them that would recorded their tweets and them upload them when they got back into internet range. However i can't find anyway of postdating the tweets. Does anyone know if this is possible? Cheers guys Alex. -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Profile avatars with AWS S3 versioning
actually, we do mind. We've been working behind the scenes to upgrade our infrastructure - we want to allow rapid changing data to be present (and accurate) in our user representations. When that update is put in place, attempting to correct profile images is on our list. On Apr 6, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Eric Woodward e...@nambu.com wrote: Browsers are not the only thing to consider. If a standard URL is used that never changes a desktop or mobile client will not know it has changed. I will have to redownload it now and again to be sure, or manually track and check these cache headers myself, which is annoying. Adding payload to the user object in the API response with the last timestamp the avatar was changed would make it dead simple to know if you have the latest one (already downloaded) or not. In my mind, this is the proper solution that should have been implemented years ago. These avatar issues have been an issue since day one, and no one at Twitter has ever seemed to mind much (or it would have been fixed long ago). They do have bigger ongoing problems, I will grant. --ejw Eric Woodward e...@nambu.com On Apr 5, 9:19 am, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: There is now a petition going to get screen_name based profile_image_urls:http://act.ly/1vk Abraham On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 19:03, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: Now that Amazon S3 supports versioning couldn't profile avatars use static URLs and let browsers handle the caching with ETags? More info on S3 Versioning:http://goo.gl/CMch Abraham -- Abraham Williams | Community Advocate |http://abrah.am Project | Out Loud |http://outloud.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] shareable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Seattle, WA, United States +1 --ab -- Abraham Williams | Community Advocate |http://abrah.am PoseurTech Labs | Projects |http://labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] shareable [x] ask first [ ] private. -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] PostDating of twitter messages
Hi Alex, You're not going to be able to do that through the API (or anyone else)- it's a nice usecase, but allowing people to add tweets from 'back in time' would get very confusing, very quickly. Why not add a timestamp to the tweet body, to let people following know when it was written? Tom On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:31 PM, eckley eck...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I'm working on a project at the moment that will involve a group of 8 people traveling across america. They want to use twitter to post updates throughout the journey, however they are going to be a away from internet access for some time. I was thinking we could have a computer go with them that would recorded their tweets and them upload them when they got back into internet range. However i can't find anyway of postdating the tweets. Does anyone know if this is possible? Cheers guys Alex. -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[twitter-dev] Re: Low latency streaming filter updates
John, Thanks for a quick and on the mark response. Your 10 minute window suggestion makes a lot of sense, and a maximum of 20 reconnects within that time should give us what we need for now. This approach does seem a little outside the 2 minute minimum reconnect period rule as in the API guide, but if it will not get us banned or frowned upon too much then I have no issues. Once we start making a little more noise and closer to launch, we'll consider requesting firehose access, or even better, hope that predicate changes without reconnect are ready by then! While I'm on the topic of new features, let me put my hand up for logical AND predicate support also! Regards, Toby. On Apr 7, 5:17 am, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote: Toby, This is indeed a problem. The ultimate solution, irrespective of practicality, is to arrange to take the entire firehose. Your connections are indeed limited by IP address -- additional accounts, past two, will not help much in this use case. You can, if so motivated, average your new connections over a larger period, allowing lower typical latency. Currently a 10 minute window is configured for IP limiting, but we may change that period without notice. You can connect quite a few times in a 10 minute window before getting limited by IP -- again, subject to change. If you allow, say, 20 connections in 10 minutes, at any velocity, you should stop accepting new predicates, or only update once every 30 seconds until the 10 minute window rolls over. This should allow good liveness for many modest arrival rates and temporal arrival probability distributions. We really need to support updating predicates on live streams to make this use case generally practical, short of taking the firehose. -John Kaluckihttp://twitter.com/jkalucki Infrastructure, Twitter Inc. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Toby Phipps tphi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've been reading a lot in the Twitter Streaming API doc and in this group about techniques to handle filter updates. I've got a good picture of the best practices, but having a hard time applying them to my particular situation. In my case, I've got a filtered stream where the filters will be updated based on the current user activities on my site. The filter updates won't happen that frequently, but when they do, they have to happen with as little latency as possible. This isn't a big problem in probably 80% of the cases where the last filter update happened more than 2 minutes ago, as I can happily disconnect and reconnect immediately and stay within the rules. However when multiple filter updates happen to arrive within the 2 minutes, that's where I have an issue. The unlucky user whose request came in just after a previous update happened gets stuck waiting the full 2 minutes before anything happens for them. They'll get bored, and walk away! The approaches to filter updates in the doc and in this group mainly talk about two concurrent streams - one primary stream with an elevated role and a second interim stream with default elevation. However, this approach works well in allowing filter changes with minimal interruption to the high-volume stream, but it does little or nothing to reduce the update latency. The worst case update latency is still 2 minutes for the poor sucker who came in just after a reconnect on the second (default elevation) stream. Some of the ideas I'm considering are: 1. Running four concurrent streams under four different Twitter accounts and spreading the overall filter criteria between them all (without predicate overlap to prevent wastage). I round-robin any filter changes across the streams, so I should be able to average 4x less latency. This seems within the rules since I'm using four different accounts, but I'm concerned that unless I originate from four different IPs that it'll be seen as a grey area and I risk being banned. 2. Bending the rules a little and bringing my minimum time before reconnect down to 30 seconds, hoping that if 80% or more of the time I respect the 2 minute minimum reconnect interval (and actually stay connected a LOT longer in most cases), I can get away with reconnecting a little more often during edge cases. 3. Running a single stream, and when filter changes are needed and I'm still within the 2 minute reconnect window, faking a stream with multiple queries until the reconnect is allowable at which time I transition to the reconnected stream. While this might be strictly within the rules, I'm convinced that the multiple query hits while waiting for the reconnect window to open would have a higher impact on Twitter than an extra reconnect within the 2 minute window every now and then. Can anyone shed some light on which of these approaches is preferable, or propose a different/better one? The goal for me is being able to adapt the stream criteria to my
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Chirp is coming to San Francisco April 14 and 15
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 22:39, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zn...@comcast.netwrote: On 04/06/2010 05:21 PM, Jonathan Strauss wrote: Ok, I just threw this together super quickly: http://chirphackday.pbworks.com/ Preliminary sections: * List of participants + areas of interests * Ideas + interested developers * Non-Twitter APIs that might be useful /shameless plug It's currently open to anyone to edit. Hopefully folks will find it useful and/or improve on it. @Doug: It would be great to have any more details about the Hack Day process (i.e. rules, etc) that are currently available added in the general info section at the top. I thought we were using Plancast for that. I don't have a problem with your site, but if we're using yours instead of Plancast, I'll delete my Plancast account - I've got way too many social media gizmo logins as it is. ;-) Plancast is good for finding events and RSVPing but not for organizing information about the events. Abraham -- Abraham Williams | Community Advocate | http://abrah.am PoseurTech Labs | Projects | http://labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] shareable [x] ask first [ ] private.
Re: [twitter-dev] Mobile view of twitter.com doesn't show This person has protected their tweets message
Have a look at the new http://mobile.twitter.com. It looks awesome and displays if profiles are protected. It does look awesome! The grammar freak in me feels compelled to point out that Whats being said about... should be What's being said about...; that is, it's missing the apostrophe in the contraction. Anyone at Twitter want to make a 1 (or 5) character fix? :) -josh -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[twitter-dev] Streaming API with Chinese/Japanese language track predicates
Hi, Has anyone managed to get Japanese or Chinese language track predicates working with the Streaming API? No matter what I try, I fail to get any matches using track and any Japanese character, or word. I note from the doc that Some UTF-8 keywords will not match correctly- this is a known temporary defect, however this sounds more like an edge case, maybe with with certain denormalized Unicode forms. Does this really extend to pretty much any searching in Chinese/ Japanese? Some of the predicates I've tried, all which result in no statuses arriving: 日本 (Japan - shows up as being very frequent via the search API) よ (A Japanese form of exclamation - again very popular in tweets) ツイッター (Japanese for Twitter - literally tsu-i-tta) Given the talk about a hash map being used for status matching, I'm thinking that this could be because no wordbreaking (n-gram/ morphology) is performed against Chinese/Japanese tweets before they get added to the hash map, and since most words aren't space-delimited in these languages, if I don't manage to match an entire sentence, I won't get a hit. However, all these searches work just fine via the search API (which I understand is still on a different platform). Any ideas? Thanks, Toby.
[twitter-dev] Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
As dougw pointed out, a timely article: http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2010/04/the-twitter-platform.html Chad -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Streaming API with Chinese/Japanese language track predicates
We break the status text into tokens by whitespace and punctuation, then apply the tokens to a hashmap of tracked terms. If the language doesn't have whitespace, the only thing that will match is the entire Tweet. I know that Search has struggled with this as well. I take it that the solutions aren't easy. At some point we'll have to figure something similar out for Streaming. I've filed a story to add support for these languages in Track. -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Infrastructure Twitter Inc. 2010/4/7 Toby Phipps tphi...@gmail.com Hi, Has anyone managed to get Japanese or Chinese language track predicates working with the Streaming API? No matter what I try, I fail to get any matches using track and any Japanese character, or word. I note from the doc that Some UTF-8 keywords will not match correctly- this is a known temporary defect, however this sounds more like an edge case, maybe with with certain denormalized Unicode forms. Does this really extend to pretty much any searching in Chinese/ Japanese? Some of the predicates I've tried, all which result in no statuses arriving: 日本 (Japan - shows up as being very frequent via the search API) よ (A Japanese form of exclamation - again very popular in tweets) ツイッター (Japanese for Twitter - literally tsu-i-tta) Given the talk about a hash map being used for status matching, I'm thinking that this could be because no wordbreaking (n-gram/ morphology) is performed against Chinese/Japanese tweets before they get added to the hash map, and since most words aren't space-delimited in these languages, if I don't manage to match an entire sentence, I won't get a hit. However, all these searches work just fine via the search API (which I understand is still on a different platform). Any ideas? Thanks, Toby.
[twitter-dev] ORA-29268: HTTP client error 400 - Bad Request
Hi All-
I've been trying to get read the friends timeline using Oracle PL/
SQL's UTL_HTTP method but for some reason it throws a HTTP client 400
- Bad Request message at line #19 - line with the get_response()
function. This piece of code works perfectly well for others. I'm
using Oracle XE. Could you please help?
DECLARE
http_req utl_http.req;
http_resp utl_http.resp;
t_update_send VARCHAR2(200);
res_value VARCHAR2(4000);
XML_RETURN CLOB;
BEGIN
t_update_send := '--head';
http_req := utl_http.begin_request('http://twitter.com/statuses/
friends_timeline.xml', 'POST', utl_http.http_version_1_1);
utl_http.set_response_error_check(TRUE);
utl_http.set_detailed_excp_support(TRUE);
utl_http.set_body_charset(http_req, 'UTF-8');
utl_http.set_header(http_req, 'User-Agent', 'Mozilla/4.0');
utl_http.set_header(http_req, 'Content-Type', 'application/x-www-
form-urlencoded');
utl_http.set_header(http_req, 'Content-Length',
to_char(LENGTH(t_update_send)));
utl_http.set_transfer_timeout(to_char('60'));
utl_http.set_authentication(http_req, 'nitin_pai', 'qwerty77',
'Basic');
utl_http.write_text(http_req, t_update_send);
http_resp := utl_http.get_response(http_req);
BEGIN
WHILE 1 = 1
LOOP
utl_http.read_line(http_resp, res_value, TRUE);
dbms_output.put_line(res_value);
XML_RETURN := XML_RETURN || res_value;
END LOOP;
EXCEPTION
WHEN utl_http.end_of_body THEN
NULL;
END;
utl_http.end_response(http_resp);
END;
Thanks for your help!
-Nitin
PS: This code is sourced from http://apextoday.blogspot.com/search/label/Twitter
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[twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
Yeah, interesting post form Fred, especially coming a week before Chirp. Are there classes of killer apps that should be built but haven't been? I left a comment on his blog that I would love an app that somehow aggregated the recommendations from my twitter stream for things like books, music, movies, etc. I tend to trust social recommendations often times more than algorithmic ones. And I certainly expect more and more great apps will be built around data mining the tweet stream and the streaming API. What would have to change for there to be 10X the number of (quality) Twitter apps as there are now? A simpler way to make money? More success stories? A fund for Twitter app developers? Changes/maturity in the Twitter platform? I'd be curious to hear what folks think. Cheers, -mike -- Mike Champion Engineering Lead http://oneforty.com On Apr 7, 12:12 pm, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote: As dougw pointed out, a timely article: http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2010/04/the-twitter-platform.html Chad -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
I think once the ad sharing platform is in place, you'll see more clever/recommendation apps around products and services. Being able to create/project a revenue stream, with low barrier to entry (simply tying into the ad platform like AdSense), seems like it would create a business-as-usual environment and market players at all levels would be building around. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Mike Champion mike.champ...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, interesting post form Fred, especially coming a week before Chirp. Are there classes of killer apps that should be built but haven't been? I left a comment on his blog that I would love an app that somehow aggregated the recommendations from my twitter stream for things like books, music, movies, etc. I tend to trust social recommendations often times more than algorithmic ones. And I certainly expect more and more great apps will be built around data mining the tweet stream and the streaming API. What would have to change for there to be 10X the number of (quality) Twitter apps as there are now? A simpler way to make money? More success stories? A fund for Twitter app developers? Changes/maturity in the Twitter platform? I'd be curious to hear what folks think. Cheers, -mike -- Mike Champion Engineering Lead http://oneforty.com On Apr 7, 12:12 pm, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote: As dougw pointed out, a timely article: http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2010/04/the-twitter-platform.html Chad -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Streaming API with Chinese/Japanese language track predicates
There are people here at Twitter who know this stuff inside and out. I just haven't, yet, roped them in for a fix. Once we have a fix in hand, we'll publish recommendations for everyone. Whatever our streaming servers have to do, your streaming clients have to do, and we might as well pool our efforts. -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Infrastructure, Twitter Inc. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:08 PM, zn...@comcast.net wrote: - John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote: We break the status text into tokens by whitespace and punctuation, then apply the tokens to a hashmap of tracked terms. If the language doesn't have whitespace, the only thing that will match is the entire Tweet. I know that Search has struggled with this as well. I take it that the solutions aren't easy. At some point we'll have to figure something similar out for Streaming. I've filed a story to add support for these languages in Track. -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Infrastructure Twitter Inc. Thanks! I was just about to add CJK (Chinese - Japanese - Korean) regular expressions to my list of research topics! ;-) There must be something in the open source world we can (to use the tired old cliché) leverage off of. ;-) Oniguruma?? Namazu? I suppose we need to look at Cyrillic and right-to-left (Arabic and Hebrew) too? -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky http://borasky-research.net/smart-at-znmeb A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul Erdős -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[twitter-dev] Re: Chirp is coming to San Francisco April 14 and 15
If nobody tweets about it it didn't really happen :-) On Apr 7, 1:51 am, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zn...@comcast.net wrote: On 04/06/2010 03:30 PM, Abraham Williams wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 15:06, Jonathan Strauss jonat...@snowballfactory.com wrote: Secondly, is there a wiki or something for coordinating among Chirp Hack Day participants? Twitter.com? :-P What if the brightest and best Twitter developers gathered for two days in Twitter's home town and *nobody* tweeted a single tweet about it? ;-) -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul Erdős -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Mad about lists and cursors... please help
Eugene, we're aware of the issue and will take a look at it today. ---Mark http://twitter.com/mccv On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:09 AM, eugene.man...@gmail.com eugene.man...@gmail.com wrote: I posted this issue to @twitterapi twice, but they ignored it. Dear API group, please address this question. Thank you! On Apr 6, 9:45 am, Spraycode joey.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone been able to solve this issue? This is still crippling us. Thanks! On Apr 2, 5:25 am, luisfigo rsoeg...@gmail.com wrote: Having the same problem... Triedhttp://api.twitter.com/1/avinashkaushik/lists/memberships.xml and get 0 for cursor. This guy is followed by ton of lists in fact Below is the snapshot of the end result I got... This is screwing up our app right now... . profile_background_image_url http://a1.twimg.com/profile_background_images/79104366/twitter_backgr... /profile_background_image_url profile_background_tilefalse/profile_background_tile notificationsfalse/notifications geo_enabledfalse/geo_enabled verifiedfalse/verified followingfalse/following statuses_count3208/statuses_count langen/lang contributors_enabledfalse/contributors_enabled /user /list /lists next_cursor0/next_cursor previous_cursor0/previous_cursor /lists_list On Apr 1, 6:00 pm, Diego Rin Martin diego@gmail.com wrote: I think it's a API bug, even in the twitter page the paginator doesn't work as expected, sometimes appears, sometines not, and when appears it makes in a random manner. i'm getting cursor 0 from API, using int or string representation, the bug is in the API that sends the cursor 0 randomly. regards, diego. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:38 AM, jmathai jmat...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure you're using the string representation of the cursor instead of the int? The API's cursor exceeds PHP's max integer value (generally). jmathai ~ $ php -r '$x = json_decode(1); echo $x; echo \n; var_dump($x===1); var_dump($x===1.111E+52);' 1.111E+52 bool(false) bool(true) jmathai ~ $ php -r '$x = 1; echo $x; echo \n; var_dump($x===1); var_dump($x===1.111E+52);' 1.111E+52 bool(true) bool(false) On Mar 31, 2:03 am, Diego Rin Martín diego@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, this is my first post to this group, i'm a spanish developer dealing with twitter api surprises, excuse my poor english, i'will do my best to comunicate nicest. So, to the problem, I'm trying to retrieve the lists for a user, via list/membershipsget method, and passing cursor as parameter, I'm having got random results, I explain myself, sometimes I made a request (for user edans, that have a huge amount of pages to paginate) and I get one page, I pass cursor -1 and I get cursor 0, sometimes I get one page, I pass cursor -1 i get cursor 1331431515904087602, then I pass it and I get 0, sometimes I get a random number of pages, but never, never, be able to retrieve the total amount of pages. I use php twitter-async classes to comunicate with API, I thought that it could be the cause of the problem, but using direct curl (via php5- curl extension) calls I'm having the same issues. Same using json or xml. I'm always getting 200 responses, so the call finish in a correct way. any clue? I'm turning mad. Thanks in advance. diego. -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[twitter-dev] Re: Opt-in beta of Popular Tweets for the Search API now available
Jaanus, Nobody intended to be mean, and nobody put into question whether everyone at Twitter is doing a good job. As Andrew noted, it's just that the job of Developer Advocate is not being done at all. I see no malice in that. I believe it is just a misunderstanding or a lack of understanding of the role. To boil it down to the simplest of levels, an advocate is a person who pleads for a cause or propounds an idea. Hence, a developer advocate speaks, pleads, or argues in favor of developers, particularly when their needs, wishes, desires, or interests diverge from the needs, wishes, desires, or interests of Twitter. On Apr 7, 12:22 am, Jaanus jaa...@gmail.com wrote: My oh my, what discussion about advocacy and what not. I think Taylor, Raffi and everybody else from Twitter are doing a great job here and everyone is eager to learn and they know they have ways to go. Let's not get mean. I'm with those who say injecting popular searches into the search API results by Twitter still doesn't entirely make sense, given the way the rollout/communication is handled. Here is the problem/conversation in a nutshell: Twitter: We are going to inject popular search results into the search API results, changing previous behavior that just returned recent results. Developers: Wait a sec, this is a bad idea because of A, B and C. Maybe you can version the API better or some such. ... time passes, nothing happens ... Twitter: Hi, we're starting to roll this out now. I don't particularly care for the popular results either way and I trust Twitter that it is good for users in the grand scheme of things, but the API behavior change is disturbing. It would be great to work against a fixed API target so that those who want search to work in a particular way can just work against a given API version, but with search, this is not an option, you only have one endpoint that's in this kind of flux. What I'm saying is Twitter as a company could just earn more developer street cred and respect here by handling this in a more graceful way. There comes a point in time where the moving parts argument as an excuse to not follow good API practices gets somewhat old. rgds, Jaanus -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
- Mike Champion mike.champ...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, interesting post form Fred, especially coming a week before Chirp. Are there classes of killer apps that should be built but haven't been? I left a comment on his blog that I would love an app that somehow aggregated the recommendations from my twitter stream for things like books, music, movies, etc. I tend to trust social recommendations often times more than algorithmic ones. I think a. That falls into what Fred calls the obvious ones. b. Facebook has the pole position here and it's a waste of Twitter ecosystem resources to try and beat Facebook. And I certainly expect more and more great apps will be built around data mining the tweet stream and the streaming API. Again, I think this is in Fred's obvious class. What would have to change for there to be 10X the number of (quality) Twitter apps as there are now? A simpler way to make money? More success stories? A fund for Twitter app developers? Changes/maturity in the Twitter platform? I'm not sure that question has an answer, and I'm not sure it's even the right one to ask. The question I'll throw out is, How can the Twitter ecosystem enhance the quality of life for the most people? Because when we get an answer to *that* question, the businesses and the money will follow. Business is about making peoples' lives *better*, solving real problems for real people, saving them money and time, and so on. -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky borasky-research.net @znmeb A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul Erdős
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Opt-in beta of Popular Tweets for the Search API now available
Hence, a developer advocate speaks, pleads, or argues in favor of developers, particularly when their needs, wishes, desires, or interests diverge from the needs, wishes, desires, or interests of Twitter. (which taylor does, btw) -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Team http://twitter.com/raffi -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[twitter-dev] Re: Mad about lists and cursors... please help
Thanks! Looking forward to the resolution. On Apr 7, 12:43 pm, Mark McBride mmcbr...@twitter.com wrote: Eugene, we're aware of the issue and will take a look at it today. ---Mark http://twitter.com/mccv On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:09 AM, eugene.man...@gmail.com eugene.man...@gmail.com wrote: I posted this issue to @twitterapi twice, but they ignored it. Dear API group, please address this question. Thank you! On Apr 6, 9:45 am, Spraycode joey.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone been able to solve this issue? This is still crippling us. Thanks! On Apr 2, 5:25 am, luisfigo rsoeg...@gmail.com wrote: Having the same problem... Triedhttp://api.twitter.com/1/avinashkaushik/lists/memberships.xml and get 0 for cursor. This guy is followed by ton of lists in fact Below is the snapshot of the end result I got... This is screwing up our app right now... . profile_background_image_url http://a1.twimg.com/profile_background_images/79104366/twitter_backgr... /profile_background_image_url profile_background_tilefalse/profile_background_tile notificationsfalse/notifications geo_enabledfalse/geo_enabled verifiedfalse/verified followingfalse/following statuses_count3208/statuses_count langen/lang contributors_enabledfalse/contributors_enabled /user /list /lists next_cursor0/next_cursor previous_cursor0/previous_cursor /lists_list On Apr 1, 6:00 pm, Diego Rin Martin diego@gmail.com wrote: I think it's a API bug, even in the twitter page the paginator doesn't work as expected, sometimes appears, sometines not, and when appears it makes in a random manner. i'm getting cursor 0 from API, using int or string representation, the bug is in the API that sends the cursor 0 randomly. regards, diego. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:38 AM, jmathai jmat...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure you're using the string representation of the cursor instead of the int? The API's cursor exceeds PHP's max integer value (generally). jmathai ~ $ php -r '$x = json_decode(1); echo $x; echo \n; var_dump($x===1); var_dump($x===1.111E+52);' 1.111E+52 bool(false) bool(true) jmathai ~ $ php -r '$x = 1; echo $x; echo \n; var_dump($x===1); var_dump($x===1.111E+52);' 1.111E+52 bool(true) bool(false) On Mar 31, 2:03 am, Diego Rin Martín diego@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, this is my first post to this group, i'm a spanish developer dealing with twitter api surprises, excuse my poor english, i'will do my best to comunicate nicest. So, to the problem, I'm trying to retrieve the lists for a user, via list/membershipsget method, and passing cursor as parameter, I'm having got random results, I explain myself, sometimes I made a request (for user edans, that have a huge amount of pages to paginate) and I get one page, I pass cursor -1 and I get cursor 0, sometimes I get one page, I pass cursor -1 i get cursor 1331431515904087602, then I pass it and I get 0, sometimes I get a random number of pages, but never, never, be able to retrieve the total amount of pages. I use php twitter-async classes to comunicate with API, I thought that it could be the cause of the problem, but using direct curl (via php5- curl extension) calls I'm having the same issues. Same using json or xml. I'm always getting 200 responses, so the call finish in a correct way. any clue? I'm turning mad. Thanks in advance. diego. -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Opt-in beta of Popular Tweets for the Search API now available
I'd have to say that everyone from Twitter who posts on this list is very much a Developer Advocate and brings the concerns and viewpoints of the developer community as a whole into every meeting and decision. If there's ever an internal tension between a competing priority and the developer ecosystem, you can be assured that someone from this list will be taking the ecosystem into account, if not explicitly taking the ecosystem's side. OTOH, this is a complex system, a diverse ecosystem and a complicated business. Most choices are win-win for everyone, but sometimes there are shades of gray and there are some non-winners and sometimes even some flat-out losers. In more than a few cases I hear gripes from some devs about changes that are making other devs jump for joy. -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Infrastructure, Twitter Inc. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Jaanus, Nobody intended to be mean, and nobody put into question whether everyone at Twitter is doing a good job. As Andrew noted, it's just that the job of Developer Advocate is not being done at all. I see no malice in that. I believe it is just a misunderstanding or a lack of understanding of the role. To boil it down to the simplest of levels, an advocate is a person who pleads for a cause or propounds an idea. Hence, a developer advocate speaks, pleads, or argues in favor of developers, particularly when their needs, wishes, desires, or interests diverge from the needs, wishes, desires, or interests of Twitter. On Apr 7, 12:22 am, Jaanus jaa...@gmail.com wrote: My oh my, what discussion about advocacy and what not. I think Taylor, Raffi and everybody else from Twitter are doing a great job here and everyone is eager to learn and they know they have ways to go. Let's not get mean. I'm with those who say injecting popular searches into the search API results by Twitter still doesn't entirely make sense, given the way the rollout/communication is handled. Here is the problem/conversation in a nutshell: Twitter: We are going to inject popular search results into the search API results, changing previous behavior that just returned recent results. Developers: Wait a sec, this is a bad idea because of A, B and C. Maybe you can version the API better or some such. ... time passes, nothing happens ... Twitter: Hi, we're starting to roll this out now. I don't particularly care for the popular results either way and I trust Twitter that it is good for users in the grand scheme of things, but the API behavior change is disturbing. It would be great to work against a fixed API target so that those who want search to work in a particular way can just work against a given API version, but with search, this is not an option, you only have one endpoint that's in this kind of flux. What I'm saying is Twitter as a company could just earn more developer street cred and respect here by handling this in a more graceful way. There comes a point in time where the moving parts argument as an excuse to not follow good API practices gets somewhat old. rgds, Jaanus -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Mike Champion mike.champ...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be curious to hear what folks think. For me, the appeal of Twitter is its brevity and its simplicity for integration with one's website. I worry that once basic authentication is discontinued, that I will have to stop using Twitter in my web based apps. Seems to me that oauth is needlessly too complicated and bloated for many Twitter uses. I like it that Twitter has been a very simple service, and that because of the limit of its scope, there are opportunities for indepedent developers to create extensions for it. I am not at all enchanted by Facebook and whatever I do with Facebook is out of sheer necessity. -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[twitter-dev] Re: Search API Changes: Popular Tweets vs. Recency
Thanks, good feedback. Yep, it is always preferable to be explicit about specifying the intent. API versioning and explicit options are both good ways of doing that. The kerfuffle around the popular searches being injected happened exactly because there was previously no way to specify intent. Thus, there was an implicit intent in the search API behavior that the developers came to trust. Now we feel as if a rug is somewhat being pulled from under us. To be fair, though, if popular tweets being included by default BREAKS anybody's app in the technical sense, then maybe it's time to look in the mirror or your code. My app won't be affected by it and will continue to operate just fine. If I want, I could just add extra value to my users by presenting the popular search somehow differently, but if not, it continues to be just a bunch of results, all the same. Be liberal in what you accept (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Robustness_principle) is a good rule to follow with Twitter API as with any external data. J -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
i would love to know how we can make oauth simpler for people. should we provide better documentation? examples? libraries? On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Lil Peck lilp...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Mike Champion mike.champ...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be curious to hear what folks think. For me, the appeal of Twitter is its brevity and its simplicity for integration with one's website. I worry that once basic authentication is discontinued, that I will have to stop using Twitter in my web based apps. Seems to me that oauth is needlessly too complicated and bloated for many Twitter uses. I like it that Twitter has been a very simple service, and that because of the limit of its scope, there are opportunities for indepedent developers to create extensions for it. I am not at all enchanted by Facebook and whatever I do with Facebook is out of sheer necessity. -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Team http://twitter.com/raffi
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
I think an site explaining OAuth similar to http://business.twitter.com/twitter101/ would go a long way. Abraham On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 15:30, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: i would love to know how we can make oauth simpler for people. should we provide better documentation? examples? libraries? On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Lil Peck lilp...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Mike Champion mike.champ...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be curious to hear what folks think. For me, the appeal of Twitter is its brevity and its simplicity for integration with one's website. I worry that once basic authentication is discontinued, that I will have to stop using Twitter in my web based apps. Seems to me that oauth is needlessly too complicated and bloated for many Twitter uses. I like it that Twitter has been a very simple service, and that because of the limit of its scope, there are opportunities for indepedent developers to create extensions for it. I am not at all enchanted by Facebook and whatever I do with Facebook is out of sheer necessity. -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Team http://twitter.com/raffi -- Abraham Williams | Community Advocate | http://abrah.am PoseurTech Labs | Projects | http://labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] shareable [x] ask first [ ] private.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
On 04/07/2010 03:07 PM, Lil Peck wrote: [snip] I worry that once basic authentication is discontinued, that I will have to stop using Twitter in my web based apps. Seems to me that oauth is needlessly too complicated and bloated for many Twitter uses. oAuth is easy if you're using one of the common scripting languages (Ruby, Python, Perl, PHP, .NET) to build your web application. They all have libraries that do all the detailed oAuth processing for you. [snip] I am not at all enchanted by Facebook and whatever I do with Facebook is out of sheer necessity. Yeah - same here. I've been on LinkedIn since 2005 and Twitter since 2007. I just joined Facebook in 2009, and nearly all of my Facebook friends are people I met through Twitter. ;-) -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky @znmeb A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul Erdős -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
On 04/07/2010 03:30 PM, Raffi Krikorian wrote: i would love to know how we can make oauth simpler for people. should we provide better documentation? examples? libraries? I can't speak for all of the libraries, but certainly Marc Mims' Net::Twitter makes it totally easy - plug-and-play if you're writing in Perl. I've also used the Ruby twitter gem and it does oAuth in a similarly simple way. -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul Erdős -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Opt-in beta of Popular Tweets for the Search API now available
The interesting thing I'm finding is that if I try to do anything that elevates popular or relevant tweets, it causes the results to appear less dynamic, more static, less lively, more dead. And that's bad for the user experience. Allan Hoving http://www.thefrequency.tv On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:09 PM, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote: I'd have to say that everyone from Twitter who posts on this list is very much a Developer Advocate and brings the concerns and viewpoints of the developer community as a whole into every meeting and decision. If there's ever an internal tension between a competing priority and the developer ecosystem, you can be assured that someone from this list will be taking the ecosystem into account, if not explicitly taking the ecosystem's side. OTOH, this is a complex system, a diverse ecosystem and a complicated business. Most choices are win-win for everyone, but sometimes there are shades of gray and there are some non-winners and sometimes even some flat-out losers. In more than a few cases I hear gripes from some devs about changes that are making other devs jump for joy. -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Infrastructure, Twitter Inc. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Jaanus, Nobody intended to be mean, and nobody put into question whether everyone at Twitter is doing a good job. As Andrew noted, it's just that the job of Developer Advocate is not being done at all. I see no malice in that. I believe it is just a misunderstanding or a lack of understanding of the role. To boil it down to the simplest of levels, an advocate is a person who pleads for a cause or propounds an idea. Hence, a developer advocate speaks, pleads, or argues in favor of developers, particularly when their needs, wishes, desires, or interests diverge from the needs, wishes, desires, or interests of Twitter. On Apr 7, 12:22 am, Jaanus jaa...@gmail.com wrote: My oh my, what discussion about advocacy and what not. I think Taylor, Raffi and everybody else from Twitter are doing a great job here and everyone is eager to learn and they know they have ways to go. Let's not get mean. I'm with those who say injecting popular searches into the search API results by Twitter still doesn't entirely make sense, given the way the rollout/communication is handled. Here is the problem/conversation in a nutshell: Twitter: We are going to inject popular search results into the search API results, changing previous behavior that just returned recent results. Developers: Wait a sec, this is a bad idea because of A, B and C. Maybe you can version the API better or some such. ... time passes, nothing happens ... Twitter: Hi, we're starting to roll this out now. I don't particularly care for the popular results either way and I trust Twitter that it is good for users in the grand scheme of things, but the API behavior change is disturbing. It would be great to work against a fixed API target so that those who want search to work in a particular way can just work against a given API version, but with search, this is not an option, you only have one endpoint that's in this kind of flux. What I'm saying is Twitter as a company could just earn more developer street cred and respect here by handling this in a more graceful way. There comes a point in time where the moving parts argument as an excuse to not follow good API practices gets somewhat old. rgds, Jaanus -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[twitter-dev] Re: Mobile view of twitter.com doesn't show This person has protected their tweets message
On Apr 8, 1:41 am, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: Have a look at the new http://mobile.twitter.com. It looks awesome and displays if profiles are protected. It does look awesome; unfortunately it uses a bunch of Javascript which (in general) many low-end mobile browsers can't handle. I need a mobile-optimised Javascript-free page that displays the protected message. -- Richard
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: i would love to know how we can make oauth simpler for people. should we provide better documentation? examples? libraries? Here is the Classic ASP code (by Ariel Saputra) that my site uses: function asp_twitter_update(strMsg,strUser,strPass) dim oXml,strFlickrUrl strFlickrUrl = http://twitter.com/statuses/update.xml; set oXml = Server.CreateObject(Msxml2.ServerXMLHTTP.3.0) oXml.Open POST, strFlickrUrl, false, strUser, strPass oXml.setRequestHeader Content-Type, application/x-www-form-urlencoded oXml.Send status= server.URLencode(strMsg) asp_twitter_update = oXml.responseText Set oXml = nothing end function Whenever a visitor to my site posts a new classified ad, the Classic ASP script automatically, invisibly, seamlessly sends out a tweet through the site's Twitter account that announces the new ad. Users need not have a Twitter account of their own and need not know or understand anything about Twitter, because the tweets are sent without their having to do anything other than submit their classified ad via my site's Classic ASP form. It was so easy to incorporate that bit of code into my form! I would be grateful for suggestions of how to accomplish the same thing with Classic ASP and oauth. Actually, to do this for Classic ASP/oauth is something of a holy grail for those of us who use Classic ASP; as there are lots of us who are concerned about this issue.
[twitter-dev] OAuth Revoke Token?
Is there anyway to send a request to revoke a token completely without requiring the user goto their connections page on twitter? We allow our users to revoke access via our application, but that only revokes it on our side. The application would still show up on their twitter.com connections page. Google has one by sending a request to: https://www.google.com/accounts/accounts/AuthSubRevokeToken -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
