Re: [U2] Unidata error message
This error has to do with the filesystem not being mounted while UD is started and accessing dynamic files later on that filesystem. Later releases handle this better but introduce other problems. IIRC (df timeouts) So, have all your UniData filesystems mounted prior to starting UniData or upgrade to a release that has this patched. Get with your support provider on what release that may be. HTH, -Doug At 08:47 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote: Is anyone familiar with this error message: Warning: Can't find the partition (1074266118) information in shared memory. Doug Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager of Technical Services Strategy 7Dallas TX --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Redirect printer to file
Jerry, I am doing something similar, but I am using the USEROPT parameter, which is passed as argument 11 to the print driver. I have a question on your scenario. Since universe won't run the print driver script until the FORM on the print job matches the FORM currently set on the printer queue, how do you get the print driver to run? Rod Hills Leupold and Stevens -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:41 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Redirect printer to file Mac, We do this type of thing all of the time. The following is one of our printer scripts (with bogus path names). In your printer device setup use the script that you create as the device driver. Make sure the script is executable. The case statement uses the form type to distribute the printout. The first case sends the printout to a file using the banner as the filename. Make sure you use valid system filenames in the banner, no spaces, I advise using a date and time stamp when creating the banner so it will be different every time. The second case is for both sending to a file and printing to a printer in landscape 132 character mode. The third case is for sending the file out through email using the banner as the email address and converting the printout to a pdf document using a free program from the internet (there are many out there, even with the same name, this one just happened to be freeware). I used mailx on this particular system so I could put in a return email address for bounced email but you can use whatever is available. You will notice the fields at the top of the script are the numbered positions of fields sent from the UniVerse spooler, these are used to determine how to treat the printout. If the form type is empty or not a case then the printout just prints on the printer in landscape 132 character mode. Jerry ptr.drv #!/usr/bin/sh # $1 = user no, $2 = job no, $3 = bytes, $4 = banner, $5 = form, # $6 = printer name # spool_file=/tmp/$1_$2 spool_file1=/tmp/$1_$2 spool_file2=/tmp/$2_$1 case $5 in TO_FILE) spool_file=/data/ibm/REPORTS/$4 cat - $spool_file ;; TO_FILEPTR) spool_file=/data/ibm/REPORTS/$4 cat - $spool_file echo ^027E^027l1o8D^027(s16.7H $spool_file1 cat $spool_file $spool_file1 echo ^027E $spool_file1 cat $spool_file1 | sed 's/$/^013/' $spool_file2 lp -d hpptr -o nobanner $spool_file2 ;; MAIL) if test $7 -lt 100 then cat - |/data/spool/text2pdf -c$7 -l$8 -v10 -F -s8 $spool_file else if test $7 -lt 200 then cat - |/data/spool/text2pdf -c$7 -l$8 -v10 -F -s6 -L $spool_file else cat - |/data/spool/text2pdf -c$7 -l$8 -v8 -F -s6 -L -y1008 $spool_file fi fi cat $spool_file | uuencode $2.pdf | mailx -r [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Report from Account $4 ;; *) echo ^027E^027l1o8D^027(s16.7H $spool_file1 cat - $spool_file1 echo ^027E $spool_file1 cat $spool_file1 | sed 's/$/^013/' $spool_file2 lp -d hpptr -o nobanner $spool_file2 ;; esac - Original Message - From: Mac Bhyat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:51 AM Subject: [U2] Redirect printer to file Hi, I wonder if someone can help, I am universe for Unix, and I would like to setup a printer device where the output from the print is sent to a directory as a unique file in that directory. how do i do this with the uv spooler thanks mac Mac Bhyat Software Engineer - Special Projects Unibase Solutions (Pty) Ltd. URL: http://www.unibase.co.za http://www.unibase.co.za/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 011 621 7000 Cell: 079 181 3266 Fax: 011 621 7029 DISCLAIMER AND CONFIDENTIALITY This message and any attachment contain information intended solely for the addressee which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you receive this message in error please notify the sender immediately by email and thereafter delete the message and do not disclose the content in any way. Unibase Solutions (Pty) Ltd cannot assure the integrity of this communication, nor that it is free of errors, virus, interception or interference, and disclaims all liability for any such. Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of the company. The authority of the sender to bind the company should be verified by the recipient and not assumed. For contact and address information regarding the company please go to http://www.unibase.co.za/ www.unibase.co.za -- This message was scanned for spam and viruses by BitDefender. For more information please visit http://linux.bitdefender.com/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Outstanding... I am 1000% in favor of this initiative. I have never been able to get PE to work on a PC... always running into install problems. Beefing up PE would be the best advertizing that IBM could hope for... --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Barouch Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:39 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Locks
How do I rollback a U2 transaction? Right now, all I know to do is to restore the entire data file from tape. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for instance? Bruce M Neylon Health Care Management Group Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/09/2007 11:39 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
I'm trying to get a working Gentoo at home. That's a game and a half :-) When I succeed I'll likely try and create an ebuild to install UVPE. Be nice to get that officially into portage :-) (I want to get a WordPerfect 8 ebuild working, too :-) Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: Brutzman, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2007 15:41 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Outstanding... I am 1000% in favor of this initiative. I have never been able to get PE to work on a PC... always running into install problems. Beefing up PE would be the best advertizing that IBM could hope for... --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Barouch Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:39 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Adding an emulator is a great idea, however it should be an IBM product. Much easier to make a business case expanding the IBM product line than any third party products. My 2 bits Karl quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for instance? Bruce M Neylon Health Care Management Group Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/09/2007 11:39 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Karl Pearson Director of I.T. ATS Industrial Supply, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atsindustrial.com 800-789-9300 x29 Local: 801-978-4429 Fax: 801-972-3888 To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Can I ask a silly question--why are there no MV books in bookstores in print? Anyone want to write one? ;-) Is the MV market expanding, shrinking, or staying stagnant? Does IBM plan to really start promoting U2 or is it just something they acquired to get a few large customers? Anybody? Gabe On 5/9/07, Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
My version of UVPE and UDPE came with Dymanic Connect (a streamlined version of Wintegrate). It serves all of my emulation needs. Actually, we have deployed it here instead of our proprietary emulation. Vance -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:25 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Adding an emulator is a great idea, however it should be an IBM product. Much easier to make a business case expanding the IBM product line than any third party products. My 2 bits Karl This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information that is exempt from disclosure under law. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and destroy any copies of it. Thank you. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
At 08:39 PM 5/9/2007, you wrote: Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Great Idea! I have wondered for years why this kind of package is not available for multi-value trials. We need something that a new user can easily understand and use without prior training. Ken --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Last I looked, Dynamic Connect was bundled with the PE editions. It was included in the clients zip file, rather than the pe zip file. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/07 11:24 AM Adding an emulator is a great idea, however it should be an IBM product. snip Karl quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for instance? Bruce M Neylon Health Care Management Group - This e-mail and any attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information, including PROTECTED HEALTH INFORMATION. If you are not the intended recipient, any use or disclosure of this information is STRICTLY PROHIBITED; you are requested to delete this e-mail and any attachments, notify the sender immediately, and notify the LabCorp Privacy Officer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (877) 23-HIPAA / (877) 234-4722. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Good luck with that. All I have to say about Gentoo is be careful with compiler flags going a little too crazy and ports (or whatever they call them, I forget) getting out of sync. Would be nice to get UV on FreeBSD but it seems to work beautifully on Windows.. no complaints so far =) Microsoft apparently put enough hard work into Windows to turn it from the toy that was NT4 into a robust OS suitable for enterprise use (didn't think I'd ever say that 8 years ago...) Gabe On 5/10/07, Anthony Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get a working Gentoo at home. That's a game and a half :-) When I succeed I'll likely try and create an ebuild to install UVPE. Be nice to get that officially into portage :-) (I want to get a WordPerfect 8 ebuild working, too :-) Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: Brutzman, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2007 15:41 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Outstanding... I am 1000% in favor of this initiative. I have never been able to get PE to work on a PC... always running into install problems. Beefing up PE would be the best advertizing that IBM could hope for... --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Barouch Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:39 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
The basic 'Direct Connect' terminal emulator is bundled with the U2 windows client package. What would be nice is SBClient to be bundled, so the capabilities of SB+ can be demonstrated. Cheers, David Murray .learn and do .excel and share -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:04 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for instance? Bruce M Neylon Health Care Management Group Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/09/2007 11:39 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Redirect printer to file
When the jobs are spooled they stay in the queue until we change the form type on the printer queues. We also have a paragraph that is run periodically during the day that sets the form type on the print queues using the usa command (SH -c /ibm/uv/bin/usa -p HP2132 -F FILE). - Original Message - From: Rod Hills [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:13 AM Subject: RE: [U2] Redirect printer to file Jerry, I am doing something similar, but I am using the USEROPT parameter, which is passed as argument 11 to the print driver. I have a question on your scenario. Since universe won't run the print driver script until the FORM on the print job matches the FORM currently set on the printer queue, how do you get the print driver to run? Rod Hills Leupold and Stevens -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:41 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Redirect printer to file Mac, We do this type of thing all of the time. The following is one of our printer scripts (with bogus path names). In your printer device setup use the script that you create as the device driver. Make sure the script is executable. The case statement uses the form type to distribute the printout. The first case sends the printout to a file using the banner as the filename. Make sure you use valid system filenames in the banner, no spaces, I advise using a date and time stamp when creating the banner so it will be different every time. The second case is for both sending to a file and printing to a printer in landscape 132 character mode. The third case is for sending the file out through email using the banner as the email address and converting the printout to a pdf document using a free program from the internet (there are many out there, even with the same name, this one just happened to be freeware). I used mailx on this particular system so I could put in a return email address for bounced email but you can use whatever is available. You will notice the fields at the top of the script are the numbered positions of fields sent from the UniVerse spooler, these are used to determine how to treat the printout. If the form type is empty or not a case then the printout just prints on the printer in landscape 132 character mode. Jerry ptr.drv #!/usr/bin/sh # $1 = user no, $2 = job no, $3 = bytes, $4 = banner, $5 = form, # $6 = printer name # spool_file=/tmp/$1_$2 spool_file1=/tmp/$1_$2 spool_file2=/tmp/$2_$1 case $5 in TO_FILE) spool_file=/data/ibm/REPORTS/$4 cat - $spool_file ;; TO_FILEPTR) spool_file=/data/ibm/REPORTS/$4 cat - $spool_file echo ^027E^027l1o8D^027(s16.7H $spool_file1 cat $spool_file $spool_file1 echo ^027E $spool_file1 cat $spool_file1 | sed 's/$/^013/' $spool_file2 lp -d hpptr -o nobanner $spool_file2 ;; MAIL) if test $7 -lt 100 then cat - |/data/spool/text2pdf -c$7 -l$8 -v10 -F -s8 $spool_file else if test $7 -lt 200 then cat - |/data/spool/text2pdf -c$7 -l$8 -v10 -F -s6 -L $spool_file else cat - |/data/spool/text2pdf -c$7 -l$8 -v8 -F -s6 -L -y1008 $spool_file fi fi cat $spool_file | uuencode $2.pdf | mailx -r [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Report from Account $4 ;; *) echo ^027E^027l1o8D^027(s16.7H $spool_file1 cat - $spool_file1 echo ^027E $spool_file1 cat $spool_file1 | sed 's/$/^013/' $spool_file2 lp -d hpptr -o nobanner $spool_file2 ;; esac - Original Message - From: Mac Bhyat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:51 AM Subject: [U2] Redirect printer to file Hi, I wonder if someone can help, I am universe for Unix, and I would like to setup a printer device where the output from the print is sent to a directory as a unique file in that directory. how do i do this with the uv spooler thanks mac Mac Bhyat Software Engineer - Special Projects Unibase Solutions (Pty) Ltd. URL: http://www.unibase.co.za http://www.unibase.co.za/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 011 621 7000 Cell: 079 181 3266 Fax: 011 621 7029 DISCLAIMER AND CONFIDENTIALITY This message and any attachment contain information intended solely for the addressee which is confidential or private in nature and subject to legal privilege. If you receive this message in error please notify the sender immediately by email and thereafter delete the message and do not disclose the content in any way. Unibase Solutions (Pty) Ltd cannot assure the integrity of this communication, nor that it is free of errors, virus, interception or interference, and disclaims all liability for any such. Views and opinions are those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of the company. The authority of the sender to bind the company
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Would be nice to get UV on FreeBSD Can't resist the plug OpenQM runs on FreeBSD. Martin Phillips, Ladybridge Systems Ltd --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+
IBM has this already... U2 Personal Editions and Trials (IBM U2 SB+ Personal Edition for UniVerse on Windows) --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Murray Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:06 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board The basic 'Direct Connect' terminal emulator is bundled with the U2 windows client package. What would be nice is SBClient to be bundled, so the capabilities of SB+ can be demonstrated. Cheers, David Murray .learn and do .excel and share -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:04 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Is there a possibility of adding a Terminal emulator? Accuterm for instance? Bruce M Neylon Health Care Management Group Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/09/2007 11:39 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
It strikes me that one good way to deliver this would be using VMware or some other similar virtualisation technology that can be run in a free player (VMware Player) on any Windows or Linux operating system. This would make the install easy and all the databases and documentation etc. could be pre-installed. Regards, Rob Wills (rob dot wills at inter hyphen weavers dot com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05/2007 04:39:21: All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+
Actually, I can't imagine giving a new user UD/UV **without** SB+ as a front end. It helps users visualize the system use (via the somewhat icky SBDEMO) and gives a usuable character-based Editor (SE) that is more intuitive to new users. But SBClient is ***NOT*** part of the PE package, which is sort of sad, as all anyone can see is UniData/UniVerse in all their character-based glory. To get something GUI, IBM forces them to abandon SB+ PE and move directly to VisualStudio integration. Seems to me they missed the mark on that planning! DW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:16 PM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+ IBM has this already... U2 Personal Editions and Trials (IBM U2 SB+ Personal Edition for UniVerse on Windows) --Bill What would be nice is SBClient to be bundled, so the capabilities of SB+ can be demonstrated. Cheers, --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
As a gentoo user and contributor I can say make sure you are using a current valid profile for your platform and make sure you properly configured your /etc/make.conf. There are many advantages to running Gentoo. 1st off it's compiled and optimized for your architecture, this means it's extremely fast! Second... IN PLACE OS upgrades are awesome and work well. If your are a newbie then I suggest first download a live cd or dvd for your architecture. Hit the gentoo website read up on how to install, if you have any questions someone is always willing to help through the gentoo forums. Gentoo isn't meant to be an easy install. For those of us who are tech savy there are many benfits from utilizing this distribution. I currently use gentoo on: AMD PPC AMD64bit PPC 64bit Efika Embedded Controller I'd like to see an Open source version of UV. IBM forgot that Linux runs on myany platforms. My Linux servers at home are all PPC. If I was going to play with uv at home I'd run it on one of my servers. My PPC servers have Mysql 5.0 (evolving nicely!) Jerry Normandin | System Level II Intuit Eclipse Distribution Management Solutions 75 Perseverance Way Hyannis, MA 02601 T 508.778.9151 Ext. 1245 F 508.778.6443 www.eclipse.intuit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *This e-mail message is intended for the named recipient(s) above only, and may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this e-mail and any attachment(s) thereto is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabriel Green Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:56 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Good luck with that. All I have to say about Gentoo is be careful with compiler flags going a little too crazy and ports (or whatever they call them, I forget) getting out of sync. Would be nice to get UV on FreeBSD but it seems to work beautifully on Windows.. no complaints so far =) Microsoft apparently put enough hard work into Windows to turn it from the toy that was NT4 into a robust OS suitable for enterprise use (didn't think I'd ever say that 8 years ago...) Gabe On 5/10/07, Anthony Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get a working Gentoo at home. That's a game and a half :-) When I succeed I'll likely try and create an ebuild to install UVPE. Be nice to get that officially into portage :-) (I want to get a WordPerfect 8 ebuild working, too :-) Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: Brutzman, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2007 15:41 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Outstanding... I am 1000% in favor of this initiative. I have never been able to get PE to work on a PC... always running into install problems. Beefing up PE would be the best advertizing that IBM could hope for... --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Barouch Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:39 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Chuck, Stepping up on my soap box As I have said before on this subject, you never get a second chance to make a good first impression. I once spoke with a representative of another mv database who bragged that they got over 2000 downloads of their eval. product per month. When I asked him, how many sales did you make, he had no clue. If I download an eval copy of something and it doesn't work for me, do you think I'm doing to say Well, Self, this is really a good product, but you're too stupid to figure out how to make it work? What we really *don't* need is 2000 downloads a month that result in 2000 disgruntled people who experimented with the product and concluded that *the product* doesn't work! NOTE TO IBM: this is the *last* place you want to refuse to provide product technical support - *as you do today*. This is our *first* chance to make a good first impression, and we're not going to get another one. Stepping down off my soap box With this in mind, may I suggest that we consider some of the following ideas: 1.Adding an invitation to contact the u2ug group for technical support at any time during or after the installation. 2.Ensuring that there are step-by-step tutorials, borrowed from IBM or contributed by our members, starting with the Readme document, that attempt to make it impossible to fail to install, connect and run the product, including (1) creating a simple application and (2) moving a simple application to the eval database. 3.Providing a complete listing of authorized U2 Resellers, by name, address, contact information and areas of specialization, so a person evaluating a product knows where to go to get pricing and to purchase the product. 4.Ensuring that the PE release does *not* have a short expiration date, because individuals often like to keep a 2-user copy on their laptop to play with, even though they have a much larger-user copy on their production system. Since many of the new evaluators will come from the generic Pick sector, and because neither Universe or Unidata support generic Pick spooler commands, we will offer to contribute a copy of SpoolerPlus to the u2ug library to be distributed with these eval copies of the PE. This will over come the most difficult issue faced by most generic Pick people evaluating UV/UD. Also, since UV and UD do not read generic Pick file saves and account saves, we will also offer to contribute a copy of our File Caddy programs, TAPE.DUMP and TAPE.LOAD, and our data cleaning programs to remove unprintable ascii characters that will not load onto UV/UD, to enable them to easily move an entire account from most generic Pick databases to UV or UD. I think that the u2ug needs to come up with a mutually acceptable policy for licensing these products for use in the PE library. We will also contribute to a growing documentation of issues faced in converting to UV/UD as we become aware of them thru out conversion activities. I totally support this project and am glad to assist wherever we can. Rgds, Dave Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C) 310-561-5200 (F) 310-377-3550 www.sysmarkinfo.com Your Source for Integrated EDI Translation, DataSync Integration and Software Migration Authorized IBM Business Partner - Original Message - From: Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:39 PM Subject: [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The end result will be a full install, with URLs to get them to the U2UG and other key locations. It will allow people to see our technology in the best light possible. Opinions? Flames? Offers to Help? Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
From: David Murray What would be nice is SBClient to be bundled, so the capabilities of SB+ can be demonstrated. Not likely going to happen, but DC works fine with SB+ in character mode. Well, fine following a small patch to SB+. -Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PrecisOnline.com ** Check out our FREE support forum at http://www.PrecisOnline.com/forum/. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+
I have to correct myself!! SBClient **is** included in the package - but as a 'demo license' that expires in 60 days. But SBClient is ***NOT*** part of the PE package, which is sort of sad, as all anyone can see is UniData/UniVerse in all their character-based glory. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Might I also suggest that all the extras, like the recommended list of VARs (very good idea), etc. be placed on u2ug.org's website so they are located in one location, and can be updated once? There's nothing less maintainable than a software release with all the packages included, but which is out of date 20 minutes after download... Karl quote who=Dave Taylor Chuck, Stepping up on my soap box As I have said before on this subject, you never get a second chance to make a good first impression. I once spoke with a representative of another mv database who bragged that they got over 2000 downloads of their eval. product per month. When I asked him, how many sales did you make, he had no clue. If I download an eval copy of something and it doesn't work for me, do you think I'm doing to say Well, Self, this is really a good product, but you're too stupid to figure out how to make it work? What we really *don't* need is 2000 downloads a month that result in 2000 disgruntled people who experimented with the product and concluded that *the product* doesn't work! NOTE TO IBM: this is the *last* place you want to refuse to provide product technical support - *as you do today*. This is our *first* chance to make a good first impression, and we're not going to get another one. Stepping down off my soap box With this in mind, may I suggest that we consider some of the following ideas: 1.Adding an invitation to contact the u2ug group for technical support at any time during or after the installation. 2.Ensuring that there are step-by-step tutorials, borrowed from IBM or contributed by our members, starting with the Readme document, that attempt to make it impossible to fail to install, connect and run the product, including (1) creating a simple application and (2) moving a simple application to the eval database. 3.Providing a complete listing of authorized U2 Resellers, by name, address, contact information and areas of specialization, so a person evaluating a product knows where to go to get pricing and to purchase the product. 4.Ensuring that the PE release does *not* have a short expiration date, because individuals often like to keep a 2-user copy on their laptop to play with, even though they have a much larger-user copy on their production system. Since many of the new evaluators will come from the generic Pick sector, and because neither Universe or Unidata support generic Pick spooler commands, we will offer to contribute a copy of SpoolerPlus to the u2ug library to be distributed with these eval copies of the PE. This will over come the most difficult issue faced by most generic Pick people evaluating UV/UD. Also, since UV and UD do not read generic Pick file saves and account saves, we will also offer to contribute a copy of our File Caddy programs, TAPE.DUMP and TAPE.LOAD, and our data cleaning programs to remove unprintable ascii characters that will not load onto UV/UD, to enable them to easily move an entire account from most generic Pick databases to UV or UD. I think that the u2ug needs to come up with a mutually acceptable policy for licensing these products for use in the PE library. We will also contribute to a growing documentation of issues faced in converting to UV/UD as we become aware of them thru out conversion activities. I totally support this project and am glad to assist wherever we can. Rgds, Dave Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C) 310-561-5200 (F) 310-377-3550 www.sysmarkinfo.com Your Source for Integrated EDI Translation, DataSync Integration and Software Migration Authorized IBM Business Partner - Original Message - From: Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:39 PM Subject: [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. Here's what we are discussing in broad brushstrokes - all feedback appreciated. We want an *easy* *legal* way to get PE editions into the hands of business people, college students, entrepreneurs, and other market expanders. More than that, we need to get people a version of the PE software which is chock full of examples, training materials, and useful information. Here's what we have in mind: We want to build an installer which pulls the PE editions from the IBM website (allowing the user to sign the IBM agreement), pulls Learner Packs from the U2UG website (allowing the user to sign the U2UG agreement - designed to protect the content all of you will - hopefully - contribute). Finally, the installer will bootstrap the Learner Packs into the PE installation, so the accounts, files, and programs, etc. are all in place. The
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Very well said, Dave. And thanks for your generous offers. The incubator is a great idea and hopefully IBM will be as lenient with the PE licensing and expiration terms as they are with their free DB2 Express-C database. The installer is going to be an amazing piece of code, considering all that's being asked of it. Have fun, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/07 3:00 PM Chuck, Stepping up on my soap box As I have said before on this subject, you never get a second chance to make a good first impression. snip Stepping down off my soap box we will offer to contribute a copy of SpoolerPlus to the u2ug library to be distributed with these eval copies of the PE. This will over come the most difficult issue faced by most generic Pick people evaluating UV/UD. we will offer to contribute a copy of our File Caddy programs, TAPE.DUMP and TAPE.LOAD, and our data cleaning programs to remove unprintable ascii characters that will not load onto UV/UD, to enable them to easily move an entire account from most generic Pick databases to UV or UD. We will also contribute to a growing documentation of issues faced in converting to UV/UD as we become aware of them thru out conversion activities. Rgds, Dave Taylor - Original Message - From: Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:39 PM Subject: [U2] Incubator - News from the board All, The U2UG board has been discussing the 'incubator plan' and we will soon be presenting a draft proposal to membership. snip - This e-mail and any attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information, including PROTECTED HEALTH INFORMATION. If you are not the intended recipient, any use or disclosure of this information is STRICTLY PROHIBITED; you are requested to delete this e-mail and any attachments, notify the sender immediately, and notify the LabCorp Privacy Officer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (877) 23-HIPAA / (877) 234-4722. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Re: Why are there no MV books?
Hi Gabe, Some quick thoughts: The Internet has dramatically reduced the need for printed materials, especially on fast-changing technical subjects. Even PC Magazine is a fraction of its former size. In the late '80s - early '90's (what I'd consider the heyday of Pick / MV so far), there were several books in print. Someone posted this link to Jonathan Sisk's Pick Publications Database not long ago: www.jes.com/picklist.html Many Pick / MV database installations are a behind the scenes part of software packages, so end-users might not feel the need for reference books. Hopefully others can comment on the state of the MV market. Regards, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/07 11:30 AM Can I ask a silly question--why are there no MV books in bookstores in print? Anyone want to write one? ;-) Is the MV market expanding, shrinking, or staying stagnant? Does IBM plan to really start promoting U2 or is it just something they acquired to get a few large customers? Anybody? Gabe - This e-mail and any attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information, including PROTECTED HEALTH INFORMATION. If you are not the intended recipient, any use or disclosure of this information is STRICTLY PROHIBITED; you are requested to delete this e-mail and any attachments, notify the sender immediately, and notify the LabCorp Privacy Officer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (877) 23-HIPAA / (877) 234-4722. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Well, for distribution - this would need to be Linux - as I doubt Microsoft will grant re-dist rights on Win32. IBM seems to support Linux... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:13 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board It strikes me that one good way to deliver this would be using VMware or some other similar virtualisation technology that can be run in a free player (VMware Player) on any Windows or Linux operating system. This would make the install easy and all the databases and documentation etc. could be pre-installed. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Dave, Very well said. But one thing I might add, and I've been bitten by this myself, I think that the reduced file sizes are probably a good enough of a deterrent to users trying to use the PE version for regular use and you don't need the expiration date. I have downloaded PE versions, installed, but didn't have time to use right off, then finding when I did have time it had expired. Some may think that not many people would be like that but in my world a month is a day. Jerry - Original Message - From: Dave Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Chuck, Stepping up on my soap box As I have said before on this subject, you never get a second chance to make a good first impression. I once spoke with a representative of another mv database who bragged that they got over 2000 downloads of their eval. product per month. When I asked him, how many sales did you make, he had no clue. If I download an eval copy of something and it doesn't work for me, do you think I'm doing to say Well, Self, this is really a good product, but you're too stupid to figure out how to make it work? What we really *don't* need is 2000 downloads a month that result in 2000 disgruntled people who experimented with the product and concluded that *the product* doesn't work! NOTE TO IBM: this is the *last* place you want to refuse to provide product technical support - *as you do today*. This is our *first* chance to make a good first impression, and we're not going to get another one. Stepping down off my soap box With this in mind, may I suggest that we consider some of the following ideas: 1.Adding an invitation to contact the u2ug group for technical support at any time during or after the installation. 2.Ensuring that there are step-by-step tutorials, borrowed from IBM or contributed by our members, starting with the Readme document, that attempt to make it impossible to fail to install, connect and run the product, including (1) creating a simple application and (2) moving a simple application to the eval database. 3.Providing a complete listing of authorized U2 Resellers, by name, address, contact information and areas of specialization, so a person evaluating a product knows where to go to get pricing and to purchase the product. 4.Ensuring that the PE release does *not* have a short expiration date, because individuals often like to keep a 2-user copy on their laptop to play with, even though they have a much larger-user copy on their production system. Since many of the new evaluators will come from the generic Pick sector, and because neither Universe or Unidata support generic Pick spooler commands, we will offer to contribute a copy of SpoolerPlus to the u2ug library to be distributed with these eval copies of the PE. This will over come the most difficult issue faced by most generic Pick people evaluating UV/UD. Also, since UV and UD do not read generic Pick file saves and account saves, we will also offer to contribute a copy of our File Caddy programs, TAPE.DUMP and TAPE.LOAD, and our data cleaning programs to remove unprintable ascii characters that will not load onto UV/UD, to enable them to easily move an entire account from most generic Pick databases to UV or UD. I think that the u2ug needs to come up with a mutually acceptable policy for licensing these products for use in the PE library. We will also contribute to a growing documentation of issues faced in converting to UV/UD as we become aware of them thru out conversion activities. I totally support this project and am glad to assist wherever we can. Rgds, Dave Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C) 310-561-5200 (F) 310-377-3550 www.sysmarkinfo.com Your Source for Integrated EDI Translation, DataSync Integration and Software Migration Authorized IBM Business Partner --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Reminds me of the good old days when I was the programmer at TAB books in Blue Ridge Summit, PA. We published The PICK Library edited by Jonathan Sisk. Still have some of those books somewhere. Bruce M Neylon Health Care Management Group Gabriel Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/2007 11:30 AM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Can I ask a silly question--why are there no MV books in bookstores in print? Anyone want to write one? ;-) Is the MV market expanding, shrinking, or staying stagnant? Does IBM plan to really start promoting U2 or is it just something they acquired to get a few large customers? Anybody? --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+
You found an SBClient demo? Where? -Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PrecisOnline.com ** Check out our FREE support forum at http://www.PrecisOnline.com/forum/. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+ I have to correct myself!! SBClient **is** included in the package - but as a 'demo license' that expires in 60 days. But SBClient is ***NOT*** part of the PE package, which is sort of sad, as all anyone can see is UniData/UniVerse in all their character-based glory. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator
Microsoft SQL and Oracle free downloads allow for 2-GB. What year is it... 1907 ? --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:13 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Dave, Very well said. But one thing I might add, and I've been bitten by this myself, I think that the reduced file sizes are probably a good enough of a deterrent to users trying to use the PE version for regular use and you don't need the expiration date. I have downloaded PE versions, installed, but didn't have time to use right off, then finding when I did have time it had expired. Some may think that not many people would be like that but in my world a month is a day. Jerry - Original Message - From: Dave Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Chuck, Stepping up on my soap box As I have said before on this subject, you never get a second chance to make a good first impression. I once spoke with a representative of another mv database who bragged that they got over 2000 downloads of their eval. product per month. When I asked him, how many sales did you make, he had no clue. If I download an eval copy of something and it doesn't work for me, do you think I'm doing to say Well, Self, this is really a good product, but you're too stupid to figure out how to make it work? What we really *don't* need is 2000 downloads a month that result in 2000 disgruntled people who experimented with the product and concluded that *the product* doesn't work! NOTE TO IBM: this is the *last* place you want to refuse to provide product technical support - *as you do today*. This is our *first* chance to make a good first impression, and we're not going to get another one. Stepping down off my soap box With this in mind, may I suggest that we consider some of the following ideas: 1.Adding an invitation to contact the u2ug group for technical support at any time during or after the installation. 2.Ensuring that there are step-by-step tutorials, borrowed from IBM or contributed by our members, starting with the Readme document, that attempt to make it impossible to fail to install, connect and run the product, including (1) creating a simple application and (2) moving a simple application to the eval database. 3.Providing a complete listing of authorized U2 Resellers, by name, address, contact information and areas of specialization, so a person evaluating a product knows where to go to get pricing and to purchase the product. 4.Ensuring that the PE release does *not* have a short expiration date, because individuals often like to keep a 2-user copy on their laptop to play with, even though they have a much larger-user copy on their production system. Since many of the new evaluators will come from the generic Pick sector, and because neither Universe or Unidata support generic Pick spooler commands, we will offer to contribute a copy of SpoolerPlus to the u2ug library to be distributed with these eval copies of the PE. This will over come the most difficult issue faced by most generic Pick people evaluating UV/UD. Also, since UV and UD do not read generic Pick file saves and account saves, we will also offer to contribute a copy of our File Caddy programs, TAPE.DUMP and TAPE.LOAD, and our data cleaning programs to remove unprintable ascii characters that will not load onto UV/UD, to enable them to easily move an entire account from most generic Pick databases to UV or UD. I think that the u2ug needs to come up with a mutually acceptable policy for licensing these products for use in the PE library. We will also contribute to a growing documentation of issues faced in converting to UV/UD as we become aware of them thru out conversion activities. I totally support this project and am glad to assist wherever we can. Rgds, Dave Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C) 310-561-5200 (F) 310-377-3550 www.sysmarkinfo.com Your Source for Integrated EDI Translation, DataSync Integration and Software Migration Authorized IBM Business Partner --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+
AH --- well isn't that stupid of me! I looked at the download page for SystemBuilder 5.4.1 here http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/preconfig.jsp?id=2005-03-31+14 %3A19%3A42.178111RS_TACT=104CBW71S_CMP= And it says IBM SystemBuilder (SB+ and SBClient) enables rapid application development with flexible deployment options for the IBM UniVerseR and IBM UniDataR (U2) MultiValue data servers. Foolish me! I thought the download included SBClient! It does NOT! Thanks Kevin for the heads up! David W. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:44 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - SB+ You found an SBClient demo? Where? -Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PrecisOnline.com ** Check out our FREE support forum at http://www.PrecisOnline.com/forum/. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
What about a fully installed, configured and ready to run VMWare image of U2 on linux? VWmare now have a free runtime/player and there are already a number of linux and such images available under their 'Virtual Appliances Marketplace' - http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/ All that has to be installed then is the vmware player on a MS-Windows platform. Cheers, David Murray .learn and do .excel and share -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:12 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Well, for distribution - this would need to be Linux - as I doubt Microsoft will grant re-dist rights on Win32. IBM seems to support Linux... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:13 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board It strikes me that one good way to deliver this would be using VMware or some other similar virtualisation technology that can be run in a free player (VMware Player) on any Windows or Linux operating system. This would make the install easy and all the databases and documentation etc. could be pre-installed. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Sounds like a great Idea! I'm willing to put together a tuned cookie cutter vmplayer image. This will yield a usable demo that can run on windows and linux. ... as the guiness commercial goes... A VM of U2 on Linux, BRILLIANT! Jerry Normandin | System Level II Intuit Eclipse Distribution Management Solutions 75 Perseverance Way Hyannis, MA 02601 T 508.778.9151 Ext. 1245 F 508.778.6443 www.eclipse.intuit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *This e-mail message is intended for the named recipient(s) above only, and may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this e-mail and any attachment(s) thereto is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Murray Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:22 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board What about a fully installed, configured and ready to run VMWare image of U2 on linux? VWmare now have a free runtime/player and there are already a number of linux and such images available under their 'Virtual Appliances Marketplace' - http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/ All that has to be installed then is the vmware player on a MS-Windows platform. Cheers, David Murray .learn and do .excel and share -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:12 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Well, for distribution - this would need to be Linux - as I doubt Microsoft will grant re-dist rights on Win32. IBM seems to support Linux... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:13 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board It strikes me that one good way to deliver this would be using VMware or some other similar virtualisation technology that can be run in a free player (VMware Player) on any Windows or Linux operating system. This would make the install easy and all the databases and documentation etc. could be pre-installed. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Anthony Youngman wrote: I'm trying to get a working Gentoo at home. That's a game and a half :-) When I succeed I'll likely try and create an ebuild to install UVPE. Be nice to get that officially into portage :-) (I want to get a WordPerfect 8 ebuild working, too :-) Cheers, Wol I recently (within the past month) wiped my gentoo desktop box so I could try (K)ubuntu. (K)ubuntu seems to be a decent enough distribution, but for the life of me I still don't understand its popularity. Their policy on root accounts alone was enough to put me off. The primary reason I prefer Linux to any MS solution is that Linux, for the most part, doesn't make judgement calls about what I want to do with MY computer. (K)ubuntu threw that right out the window with their sudo nonsense. It was a bad decision. I had my reasons for replacing gentoo, among them the lack of a recent install CD. However I just checked www.gentoo.org, and imagine my surprise... there's a 2007.0 install finally available. I guess I'll spend the weekend reinstalling. Yes, you read that correctly: the weekend. I've been a Linux user since 1994 (I still have an ancient Yggdrasil distribution, boot floppy and all). I've tried most of the major players, and landed on gentoo about three years ago. What sold me was the amount of control you have with gentoo. Want to try a bleeding edge app? Preface 'emerge' with 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86' (replace ~x86 with your platform of choice). 'USE' keywords offer very fine granularity over what libraries get used when you install a package. And the gentoo wiki offers some of the best documentation I've seen for ANY computer platform. My email archives fail me right now, and my middle-aged memory has been all but useless for quite some time now (I blame the '70's, but there ya go). Someone in the openqm community had an ebuild going for gentoo. In short (is it too late for that?), good luck with building your gentoo system. If ya got any questions (WordPerfect 8??) feel free to holler at me. -- Dave Walker --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Re: Why are there no MV books?
Gabe asked why are there no MV books in bookstores in print? (Weird that I didn't get the original note - forum flaky???) This question is asked in many forums over time, so I decided to write a blog entry on it. Comments always welcome: removethisNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2007/05/mvbooks1.html Tony TG@ yes,please.remove.this.anti.spam.textNebula-RnD.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
But you can't do that due to the IBM License on the PE version - the end user *must* navigate through that license during the installation was my understanding. They HAVE to pull the PE from the IBM site directly. Meaning, no way to build ready-to-run PE Virtual Machines DW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Normandin, Jerry Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:43 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Sounds like a great Idea! I'm willing to put together a tuned cookie cutter vmplayer image. This will yield a usable demo that can run on windows and linux. ... as the guiness commercial goes... A VM of U2 on Linux, BRILLIANT! Jerry Normandin | System Level II Intuit Eclipse Distribution Management Solutions 75 Perseverance Way Hyannis, MA 02601 T 508.778.9151 Ext. 1245 F 508.778.6443 www.eclipse.intuit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *This e-mail message is intended for the named recipient(s) above only, and may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this e-mail and any attachment(s) thereto is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Murray Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:22 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board What about a fully installed, configured and ready to run VMWare image of U2 on linux? VWmare now have a free runtime/player and there are already a number of linux and such images available under their 'Virtual Appliances Marketplace' - http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/ All that has to be installed then is the vmware player on a MS-Windows platform. Cheers, David Murray .learn and do .excel and share -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:12 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Well, for distribution - this would need to be Linux - as I doubt Microsoft will grant re-dist rights on Win32. IBM seems to support Linux... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:13 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board It strikes me that one good way to deliver this would be using VMware or some other similar virtualisation technology that can be run in a free player (VMware Player) on any Windows or Linux operating system. This would make the install easy and all the databases and documentation etc. could be pre-installed. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
All, Let me respond to some of these... but first: MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please contact U2UG President Brian Leach with specific offers to help. We need code examples, well reasoned tutorials, and more. These packs are a big part of making the incubator work. Gabriel, I am currently writing an MV book and editing another. The first will be distributed free as a PDF and the second will be a college text book. We already have one College committed to using it bt I can't say more at this time. Rob, Dave Jerry, VMware was my original proposal and IBM legal found that problematic.It may be possible in the future but we won't hold this up waiting for it. Karl, The hot links included in the incubator will point to a lot of U2UG content so that we can keep things dynamic and current. -- Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Thanks. I've seen broken links so many times using install routines that I could be rich, if finder's fees were applicable. Well, not rich. Karl quote who=Charles Barouch All, Let me respond to some of these... but first: MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please contact U2UG President Brian Leach with specific offers to help. We need code examples, well reasoned tutorials, and more. These packs are a big part of making the incubator work. Gabriel, I am currently writing an MV book and editing another. The first will be distributed free as a PDF and the second will be a college text book. We already have one College committed to using it bt I can't say more at this time. Rob, Dave Jerry, VMware was my original proposal and IBM legal found that problematic.It may be possible in the future but we won't hold this up waiting for it. Karl, The hot links included in the incubator will point to a lot of U2UG content so that we can keep things dynamic and current. -- Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Karl Pearson Director of I.T. ATS Industrial Supply, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atsindustrial.com 800-789-9300 x29 Local: 801-978-4429 Fax: 801-972-3888 To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
I was assuming that IBM would do this. Cheers, David Murray .learn and do .excel and share -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:49 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board But you can't do that due to the IBM License on the PE version - the end user *must* navigate through that license during the installation was my understanding. They HAVE to pull the PE from the IBM site directly. Meaning, no way to build ready-to-run PE Virtual Machines DW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Normandin, Jerry Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:43 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Sounds like a great Idea! I'm willing to put together a tuned cookie cutter vmplayer image. This will yield a usable demo that can run on windows and linux. ... as the guiness commercial goes... A VM of U2 on Linux, BRILLIANT! Jerry Normandin | System Level II Intuit Eclipse Distribution Management Solutions 75 Perseverance Way Hyannis, MA 02601 T 508.778.9151 Ext. 1245 F 508.778.6443 www.eclipse.intuit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *This e-mail message is intended for the named recipient(s) above only, and may contain information that is confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this e-mail and any attachment(s) thereto is prohibited. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Murray Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:22 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board What about a fully installed, configured and ready to run VMWare image of U2 on linux? VWmare now have a free runtime/player and there are already a number of linux and such images available under their 'Virtual Appliances Marketplace' - http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/ All that has to be installed then is the vmware player on a MS-Windows platform. Cheers, David Murray .learn and do .excel and share -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:12 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Well, for distribution - this would need to be Linux - as I doubt Microsoft will grant re-dist rights on Win32. IBM seems to support Linux... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:13 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board It strikes me that one good way to deliver this would be using VMware or some other similar virtualisation technology that can be run in a free player (VMware Player) on any Windows or Linux operating system. This would make the install easy and all the databases and documentation etc. could be pre-installed. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Why can't the unpacking of the VM have the IBM license agreement in it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:49 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Incubator - News from the board But you can't do that due to the IBM License on the PE version - the end user *must* navigate through that license during the installation was my understanding. They HAVE to pull the PE from the IBM site directly. Meaning, no way to build ready-to-run PE Virtual Machines DW --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board
Yep, I live on that same clock. Richard - Original Message - From: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Dave, Very well said. But one thing I might add, and I've been bitten by this myself, I think that the reduced file sizes are probably a good enough of a deterrent to users trying to use the PE version for regular use and you don't need the expiration date. I have downloaded PE versions, installed, but didn't have time to use right off, then finding when I did have time it had expired. Some may think that not many people would be like that but in my world a month is a day. Jerry - Original Message - From: Dave Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Incubator - News from the board Chuck, Stepping up on my soap box As I have said before on this subject, you never get a second chance to make a good first impression. I once spoke with a representative of another mv database who bragged that they got over 2000 downloads of their eval. product per month. When I asked him, how many sales did you make, he had no clue. If I download an eval copy of something and it doesn't work for me, do you think I'm doing to say Well, Self, this is really a good product, but you're too stupid to figure out how to make it work? What we really *don't* need is 2000 downloads a month that result in 2000 disgruntled people who experimented with the product and concluded that *the product* doesn't work! NOTE TO IBM: this is the *last* place you want to refuse to provide product technical support - *as you do today*. This is our *first* chance to make a good first impression, and we're not going to get another one. Stepping down off my soap box With this in mind, may I suggest that we consider some of the following ideas: 1.Adding an invitation to contact the u2ug group for technical support at any time during or after the installation. 2.Ensuring that there are step-by-step tutorials, borrowed from IBM or contributed by our members, starting with the Readme document, that attempt to make it impossible to fail to install, connect and run the product, including (1) creating a simple application and (2) moving a simple application to the eval database. 3.Providing a complete listing of authorized U2 Resellers, by name, address, contact information and areas of specialization, so a person evaluating a product knows where to go to get pricing and to purchase the product. 4.Ensuring that the PE release does *not* have a short expiration date, because individuals often like to keep a 2-user copy on their laptop to play with, even though they have a much larger-user copy on their production system. Since many of the new evaluators will come from the generic Pick sector, and because neither Universe or Unidata support generic Pick spooler commands, we will offer to contribute a copy of SpoolerPlus to the u2ug library to be distributed with these eval copies of the PE. This will over come the most difficult issue faced by most generic Pick people evaluating UV/UD. Also, since UV and UD do not read generic Pick file saves and account saves, we will also offer to contribute a copy of our File Caddy programs, TAPE.DUMP and TAPE.LOAD, and our data cleaning programs to remove unprintable ascii characters that will not load onto UV/UD, to enable them to easily move an entire account from most generic Pick databases to UV or UD. I think that the u2ug needs to come up with a mutually acceptable policy for licensing these products for use in the PE library. We will also contribute to a growing documentation of issues faced in converting to UV/UD as we become aware of them thru out conversion activities. I totally support this project and am glad to assist wherever we can. Rgds, Dave Dave Taylor CEO Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C) 310-561-5200 (F) 310-377-3550 www.sysmarkinfo.com Your Source for Integrated EDI Translation, DataSync Integration and Software Migration Authorized IBM Business Partner --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/787 - Release Date: 5/3/2007 2:11 PM --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Re: Why are there no MV books?
I've never seen MV books in any bookstore. We've been a pretty well-kept secret. MV is hard to illustrate with words and/or drawings as itself is DOS-like and character based. Perhaps that's a stumbling block on create a book that's easy to read. Most books that I've come across are similar to the reference manuals with not a whole lot of this is better than that. It seems to present everything on a equal basis. My 1 cent. - Original Message - From: Thomas Derwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:00 PM Subject: [U2] Re: Why are there no MV books? Hi Gabe, Some quick thoughts: The Internet has dramatically reduced the need for printed materials, especially on fast-changing technical subjects. Even PC Magazine is a fraction of its former size. In the late '80s - early '90's (what I'd consider the heyday of Pick / MV so far), there were several books in print. Someone posted this link to Jonathan Sisk's Pick Publications Database not long ago: www.jes.com/picklist.html Many Pick / MV database installations are a behind the scenes part of software packages, so end-users might not feel the need for reference books. Hopefully others can comment on the state of the MV market. Regards, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/07 11:30 AM Can I ask a silly question--why are there no MV books in bookstores in print? Anyone want to write one? ;-) Is the MV market expanding, shrinking, or staying stagnant? Does IBM plan to really start promoting U2 or is it just something they acquired to get a few large customers? Anybody? Gabe - This e-mail and any attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information, including PROTECTED HEALTH INFORMATION. If you are not the intended recipient, any use or disclosure of this information is STRICTLY PROHIBITED; you are requested to delete this e-mail and any attachments, notify the sender immediately, and notify the LabCorp Privacy Officer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (877) 23-HIPAA / (877) 234-4722. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Re: Why are there no MV books?
As some of you already know, if you have a new person either in management or development in a U2 (or other Pick) shop, you can have them read my little MultiValue Trilogy at http://www.tincat-group.com/mv/trilogy.html These are flash cards and they were written with readers to help with quality. My blog effort has also been a book-in-progress, of sorts, although I have set it aside for the time being to start a software project. It is a little dated and geared to D3, but Sisk's book on BASIC is also online at http://jes.com/pb/index.html I do have quite a few Pick books from days gone by on my shelf and after checking Jon's site, I see he has some for sale. I suspect that someone would write another one if there were a market for it, but the vendors all have documentation and the user exchanges, such as u2-users, help get folks the rest of the way. It is neither mainstream enough nor difficult enough to prompt someone to write a new book, I suspect. Additionally, the various Pick vendors have mostly gone their separate ways on client-server and there are many third-party products, so other than the basics of Data BASIC and the Pick data model, most of the information needed is vendor-specific at this point, I suspect. Cheers! --dawn On 5/10/07, MAJ Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never seen MV books in any bookstore. We've been a pretty well-kept secret. MV is hard to illustrate with words and/or drawings as itself is DOS-like and character based. Perhaps that's a stumbling block on create a book that's easy to read. Most books that I've come across are similar to the reference manuals with not a whole lot of this is better than that. It seems to present everything on a equal basis. My 1 cent. - Original Message - From: Thomas Derwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:00 PM Subject: [U2] Re: Why are there no MV books? Hi Gabe, Some quick thoughts: The Internet has dramatically reduced the need for printed materials, especially on fast-changing technical subjects. Even PC Magazine is a fraction of its former size. In the late '80s - early '90's (what I'd consider the heyday of Pick / MV so far), there were several books in print. Someone posted this link to Jonathan Sisk's Pick Publications Database not long ago: www.jes.com/picklist.html Many Pick / MV database installations are a behind the scenes part of software packages, so end-users might not feel the need for reference books. Hopefully others can comment on the state of the MV market. Regards, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/07 11:30 AM Can I ask a silly question--why are there no MV books in bookstores in print? Anyone want to write one? ;-) Is the MV market expanding, shrinking, or staying stagnant? Does IBM plan to really start promoting U2 or is it just something they acquired to get a few large customers? Anybody? Gabe --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
