RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-27 Thread Doug Miller

At 10:08 AM 1/26/2006, you wrote:
So get with your VAR's and request access and they should be able to 
get you going.  If they do not know how, tell them to contact IBM as 
this is available now.  I suspect IBM should have some type of 
announcement in their Information Management Software Today 
newsletter sometime soon.


Ah, I thought I saw this but could not find it.  It was in the latest 
edition of the above.


Support and Services


Access to IBM Support Knowledgebase Extended to Tiered Partners and VAR
  End Users

  IBM U2 OEM Partners and Master Distributors can grant access
  to the entitled IBM Support Knowledgebase for their associated
  End Users and/or Tiered Partners.

  The IBM U2 Support Knowledgebase is the main repository of
  Technical Support how-to's, hints and tips and other articles
  invaluable for supporting your U2 products and solutions.

  Access is available with the express consent of the Partner
  or Distributor. Full details of how Partners or Distributors
  request access is provided in the U2 Partners QuickPlace.
  If you currently hold a valid U2 OEM, Passport Advantage
  Express or Distributor Agreement and do not have access to
  this site please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for access.

  The document in the U2 Partner QuickPlace is called Accessing
  the Knowledgebase: for Tiered Partners or VAR Endusers.

  http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?on=IMNL125J03




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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread phil walker
The issue is that the Universe user has their maintenance through a
distributor and myself as a reseller, and I believe you can only access
the knowledgebase when a Universe user has support directly through IBM.
That is what I have been told anyway by that distributor and also IBM
when I tried to register as the Universe User through tech connect.

I can understand restricting access to the website for logging calls if
you by maintenance through a reseller distributor, but restricting the
knowledgebase like it is the crown jewels, come on. Is IBM really
interested in getting U2 out there?

Thanks for the response though,

cheers

Phil



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Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 8:30 p.m.
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

Hi Phil,

We looked at this a while ago and asked the question. The response is to
use the clients licence to access the knowledgebase. We provide
support for a number of u2 sites but cannot get any direct access. This
tends to make it difficult for call logging etc. however to give IBM
their due, there has been a good response once we have managed to
connect.

It can be very frustrating to get to the point of logging a call only to
be told the issue has been documented on the knowledgebase.  Try asking
directly through the IBM office in NZ, maybe with enough noise, IBM may
look at granting access to these secrets. Good luck with any attempt
you may make. 8-) 

Regards

David Logan

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phil walker
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 3:16 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Knowledgebase access

Has anyone heard, if and when people who do not have their maintenance
directly with IBM will have access to the U2 knowledgebase?

Does anyone else find it utterly frustrating that you cannot see
articles in their pertaining to U2, such as how-tos etc?

It does not do any favours when looking at development new applications
when you can get so much more help etc on the internet for other
products...

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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Brian Leach
Phil,

This is something for which the U2UG have been actively campaigning. That
campaign is beginning to bear fruit:

1. There are now a number of articles on the techconnect that are available
'outside' the knowledge base (e.g.the excellent article by Mark Baldridge
publicised on the list earlier) and this number is increasing.

2. The U2UG are creating our own knowledge base - this will contain our own
articles and links to other resources. We are already discussing
availability of specific IBM articles through this route.

3. One stumbling block has been the desire of certain distributors to keep
access to the library to themselves. This obviously puts IBM in a difficult
position as far as access is concerned, so AFAIK IBM have now introduced a
policy whereby users CAN get access to the knowledge base IF their
distributor agrees. If you register for the knowledge base today, you will
get an email with the instructions on how to take that forward.

There are a number of technical and practical hoops through which this
process needs to go (not least since the knowledgebase is a shared IBM
resource covering other product ranges as well) but we are very aware of
this and IBM are moving in the right direction. As with all these things, it
takes time.

Please be sure we will continue to press IBM hard on this matter over the
coming year.

Brian
U2UG Board


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 The issue is that the Universe user has their maintenance 
 through a distributor and myself as a reseller, and I believe 
 you can only access the knowledgebase when a Universe user 
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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Robert Paterson
Working for one of these distributors, I know that IBM have picked up on
this and there is a process available which will allow authorised people
to gain access.

Key criteria are to have the chat with your distributor and start the
ball rolling so that they can process the user requests back to IBM.

There are some hoops to jump through - so it is not necessarily instant
access, because ultimately the end user accessing the knowledgebase must
still be entitled - i.e. paying maintenance - to do so.

That said, the database is now available.

Hope that helps


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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Vance, Kathy
I am 100% agree with Phil. It was very frustrating when I had questions
and saw the article titles in KB on IBM site but could not read it.

It is very weird that IBM has KB but does not allow people to view them.
I have not seen any other web sites doing so. The one of reasons people
find that it is easy to use Microsoft products is that we could find
almost everything from KB in MS site.

Kathy

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phil walker
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:52 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

The issue is that the Universe user has their maintenance through a
distributor and myself as a reseller, and I believe you can only access
the knowledgebase when a Universe user has support directly through IBM.
That is what I have been told anyway by that distributor and also IBM
when I tried to register as the Universe User through tech connect.

I can understand restricting access to the website for logging calls if
you by maintenance through a reseller distributor, but restricting the
knowledgebase like it is the crown jewels, come on. Is IBM really
interested in getting U2 out there?

Thanks for the response though,

cheers

Phil



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(SST - Adelaide)
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 8:30 p.m.
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

Hi Phil,

We looked at this a while ago and asked the question. The response is to
use the clients licence to access the knowledgebase. We provide
support for a number of u2 sites but cannot get any direct access. This
tends to make it difficult for call logging etc. however to give IBM
their due, there has been a good response once we have managed to
connect.

It can be very frustrating to get to the point of logging a call only to
be told the issue has been documented on the knowledgebase.  Try asking
directly through the IBM office in NZ, maybe with enough noise, IBM may
look at granting access to these secrets. Good luck with any attempt
you may make. 8-) 

Regards

David Logan

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phil walker
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 3:16 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Knowledgebase access

Has anyone heard, if and when people who do not have their maintenance
directly with IBM will have access to the U2 knowledgebase?

Does anyone else find it utterly frustrating that you cannot see
articles in their pertaining to U2, such as how-tos etc?

It does not do any favours when looking at development new applications
when you can get so much more help etc on the internet for other
products...

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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Vance, Kathy
I have to ask our tech support (distributor) to forward the articles to
me each time. I saw the articles of titles but I could not open it.

I do not understand what IBM is thinking?

Kathy

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phil walker
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:46 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Knowledgebase access

Has anyone heard, if and when people who do not have their maintenance
directly with IBM will have access to the U2 knowledgebase?

Does anyone else find it utterly frustrating that you cannot see
articles in their pertaining to U2, such as how-tos etc?

It does not do any favours when looking at development new applications
when you can get so much more help etc on the internet for other
products...

Phil
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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Doug Miller
I agree with this.  Access became available in October.  We are a VAR 
ourselves and have hundreds of customers.  We became somewhat of a 
beta site as one of our power customers requested access back in 
August of last year.  The whole process is a little confusing because 
you are dealing with multiple logins but in the end, it works.


So get with your VAR's and request access and they should be able to 
get you going.  If they do not know how, tell them to contact IBM as 
this is available now.  I suspect IBM should have some type of 
announcement in their Information Management Software Today 
newsletter sometime soon.


At 07:42 AM 1/26/2006, Robert Paterson wrote:


Working for one of these distributors, I know that IBM have picked up on
this and there is a process available which will allow authorised people
to gain access.


Regards,


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Re: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Jerry Banker
That brings up a question. If your VAR decides to get out of the business 
and is not taken over by another VAR does your contract automatically revert 
to IBM support or does it just go into limbo until you decide to search for 
another VAR or coax IBM into taking it over. I'm talking hypothetically 
here, no specifics. I've heard of companies, in the past before IBM was 
involved and not necessarily U2, that have just disappeared overnight and 
left their customers without support and was wondering what IBM's policy is 
on this.


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Subject: RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access



Phil,

This is something for which the U2UG have been actively campaigning. That
campaign is beginning to bear fruit:

1. There are now a number of articles on the techconnect that are 
available

'outside' the knowledge base (e.g.the excellent article by Mark Baldridge
publicised on the list earlier) and this number is increasing.

2. The U2UG are creating our own knowledge base - this will contain our 
own

articles and links to other resources. We are already discussing
availability of specific IBM articles through this route.

3. One stumbling block has been the desire of certain distributors to keep
access to the library to themselves. This obviously puts IBM in a 
difficult

position as far as access is concerned, so AFAIK IBM have now introduced a
policy whereby users CAN get access to the knowledge base IF their
distributor agrees. If you register for the knowledge base today, you will
get an email with the instructions on how to take that forward.

There are a number of technical and practical hoops through which this
process needs to go (not least since the knowledgebase is a shared IBM
resource covering other product ranges as well) but we are very aware of
this and IBM are moving in the right direction. As with all these things, 
it

takes time.

Please be sure we will continue to press IBM hard on this matter over the
coming year.

Brian
U2UG Board



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Subject: RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

The issue is that the Universe user has their maintenance
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you can only access the knowledgebase when a Universe user
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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Rod Hills
Robert,

I contacted my VAR (EPICOR) and was told no way no how...

Rod Hills
Leupold and Stevens


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Kathy, you should be able to speak with your VAR and if they work
through a distributor get them to grant access...

Ultimately it is all about ensuring that IBM are getting their
maintenance dollars justifying their work on keeping the web site fully
accessible to all.

But if you make regular use of it - I am sure your VAR will find it
easier to get you access as well!


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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Gordon J Glorfield
Time to kick that VAR to the curb!  The thought of denying a client access 
to information like this is unacceptable.


Gordon J. Glorfield
Sr. Applications Developer
MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company)
301-360-8839

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/26/2006 12:41:52 PM:

 Robert,

 I contacted my VAR (EPICOR) and was told no way no how...

 Rod Hills
 Leupold and Stevens

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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Marc Harbeson
Or, lookup the existence of a bug, and then tell the var I want patch XX

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Kathy,

Why should I have to bother my distributor to get information regarding
HOW-TO like questions, logging a bug sure, but I would rather just be
able to get at information about how to accomplish something myself,
then I can make a decision as to if I should get someone else involved
to do the work.

I will follow up with the distributor to get me access after reading
some of these other posts.

Cheers,


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Subject: RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

I have to ask our tech support (distributor) to forward the articles to
me each time. I saw the articles of titles but I could not open it.

I do not understand what IBM is thinking?

Kathy

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phil walker
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:46 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Knowledgebase access

Has anyone heard, if and when people who do not have their maintenance
directly with IBM will have access to the U2 knowledgebase?

Does anyone else find it utterly frustrating that you cannot see
articles in their pertaining to U2, such as how-tos etc?

It does not do any favours when looking at development new applications
when you can get so much more help etc on the internet for other
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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Dave S
It is truly horrible that IBM locks up this valuable information. I don't 
understand
  the reasoning behind it.
   
  Does anyone have any idea what it would cost a single developer to access
  the knowledgebase ?
   
  

Gordon J Glorfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Time to kick that VAR to the curb! The thought of denying a client access 
to information like this is unacceptable.


Gordon J. Glorfield
Sr. Applications Developer
MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company)
301-360-8839

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/26/2006 12:41:52 PM:

 Robert,

 I contacted my VAR (EPICOR) and was told no way no how...

 Rod Hills
 Leupold and Stevens

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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread phil walker
I used to have a 1 user license which I paid maintenance on, but then
this changed to a minimum 4 user license, so I cancelled as it was not
worth that much money to me. The distributor suggested that I use the
personal edition available off the website instead...

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Subject: RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

It is truly horrible that IBM locks up this valuable information. I
don't understand
  the reasoning behind it.
   
  Does anyone have any idea what it would cost a single developer to
access
  the knowledgebase ?
   
  

Gordon J Glorfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Time to kick that VAR to the curb! The thought of denying a client
access to information like this is unacceptable.


Gordon J. Glorfield
Sr. Applications Developer
MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company)
301-360-8839

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/26/2006 12:41:52 PM:

 Robert,

 I contacted my VAR (EPICOR) and was told no way no how...

 Rod Hills
 Leupold and Stevens

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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Bruce Nichol

At 14:50 26/01/06 -0500, you wrote:


Time to kick that VAR to the curb!  The thought of denying a client access
to information like this is unacceptable.


In all seriousness, IBM is probably only trying to protect the revenue 
stream of its VARs, albeit at the cost of possibly alienating them at the 
coal face.




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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-26 Thread Bruce Nichol

At 15:58 27/01/06 +1300, you wrote:


I used to have a 1 user license which I paid maintenance on, but then
this changed to a minimum 4 user license, so I cancelled as it was not
worth that much money to me. The distributor suggested that I use the
personal edition available off the website instead...


And as IBM are now driven by their VARs to open up the knowledgebase to the 
VAR's customers, for whatever IBM's original reason - and it seems as if 
Epicor as an IBM VAR, for one, support IBM in this - the ability to access 
the KB from a downloaded PE ownership seems extremely remote.


Your best bet is via this group.   There's more than one way to skin this 
cat...


Ask away.I'd hazard you will get the information you want



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RE: [U2] Knowledgebase access

2006-01-25 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
Hi Phil,

We looked at this a while ago and asked the question. The response is to
use the clients licence to access the knowledgebase. We provide
support for a number of u2 sites but cannot get any direct access. This
tends to make it difficult for call logging etc. however to give IBM
their due, there has been a good response once we have managed to
connect.

It can be very frustrating to get to the point of logging a call only to
be told the issue has been documented on the knowledgebase.  Try asking
directly through the IBM office in NZ, maybe with enough noise, IBM may
look at granting access to these secrets. Good luck with any attempt
you may make. 8-) 

Regards

David Logan

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phil walker
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 3:16 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Knowledgebase access

Has anyone heard, if and when people who do not have their maintenance
directly with IBM will have access to the U2 knowledgebase?

Does anyone else find it utterly frustrating that you cannot see
articles in their pertaining to U2, such as how-tos etc?

It does not do any favours when looking at development new applications
when you can get so much more help etc on the internet for other
products...

Phil
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