RE: Brower based terminal emulator
Well, if MS can't do it ... Don't forget - it was ME that wrote the pt250 emulation that ships with wIntegrate. And though I say it myself, it's good ... :-) (VMark screwed it up a bit with improvements :-) And I moved all our wIntegrate over to pt250 because I couldn't get vt100 to work ... Yup. I'm well aware vt100 emulation is a nightmare. However, I think you will find that some of the more obscure features are not implemented in genuine DEC vt100 terminals ... what do you think THAT does to any attempt to get good definitive emulation :-) Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 March 2004 03:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brower based terminal emulator In a message dated 3/5/2004 5:58:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fire up an xterm, or konsole, or whatever you fancy, on the client desktop. Telnet into the uv server, SET.TERM.TYPE VT100, and off you go. And you're confident that any old xterm, konsole, or whatever will ACCURATELY emulate every feature of vt100 ? I think you will find that some of the more obscure features are not really implemented that well in most emulators. At least I did. Will -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[UV] Date-Time stamping
Hi All, When does universe update the OS level date time stamp ? On Windows XP UV9.6, if I make changes to a record (even create a new record) and commit it to disk, the date and time shown under the 'Date Modified' column in Windows explorer does not change. However, if I modify the same record using the ED command, the time stamp in explorer changes immediately. On Unix I remember relying on sorting files by the time stamp to determine which files were actively being updated by users and I used to get reasonable results. What do I need to change to get the same behaviour on XP? Regards, Marco - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: UX to NT
Mark, Are you specifying -nodrv when restoring? Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Waldron Sent: 07 March 2004 22:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UX to NT Having trouble with the uvbackup on unix and uvrestore on w2k box. I set up another disk area for my accounts to go into rather that the c:\IBM\UV default. When I do the restore the W2k box always creates the new account on the c:\IBM\ drive rather than my U: drive like I want it to. I have tried uvrestore at the command prompt like the manual says but it creates the account without the necessary structure to do the UPDATE.ACCOUNTSo I may be missing something simple. Thanks in advance Mark -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ __ This email was checked by MessageLabs SkyScan before entering Microgen. This email was checked on leaving Microgen for viruses, similar malicious code and inappropriate content by MessageLabs SkyScan. DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information. In the event of any technical difficulty with this email, please contact the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microgen Information Management Solutions http://www.microgen.co.uk -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
wIntegrate 2 and WIN.IMPORT
I am attempting to stop the WIN.IMPORT routine from popping a dialogue that can be quit, is there any way of disabling the button, hiding the dialogue, data stacking commands to minimize it or moving focus something that will make it harder for the user to stop the transfer? -- * This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by * Blairs of Scotland MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. * * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and * intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they * are addressed. * * If you have received this email in error please notify us at Blairs * of Scotland via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How to Add Triggers on Dicts
On the nail. Thanks WOL! CREATE TRIGGER has no problem with this. Now writing a proggie to create a dict pointer for every file required... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman Sent: 05 March 2004 04:06 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: How to Add Triggers on Dicts When you specify DICT FILENAME, UV treats it internally as if there existed a VOC entry 0001: F 0002: D_FILENAME 0003: \uv_account\DICT.DICT There is no reason whatsoever why you shouldn't create an explicit VOC entry of exactly this form. After all, as far as UV is concerned, the D_FILENAME file is a data file, just like any other ... Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daly, Mark Sent: 02 March 2004 14:28 To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: How to Add Triggers on Dicts Well.. It wouldn't surprise me if the CREATE TRIGGER command doesn't recognize the 'DICT' keyword. Triggers generally deal with data updates. I guess you could create a dummy file pointer that points to the dictionary as though it were a data file. Then reference that pointer when creating the trigger. BUT - I haven't tried it. Not sure I would try it. Good luck! -Original Message- From: Dennis Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:20 AM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: How to Add Triggers on Dicts The trigger is currently working fine on DATA files. It's just the adding of it to DICT files that's boggling me at present. Once I've got that right, I'll have to think of some way to monitor Type 1/19 files, but that's another day. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How to safely kill a runaway unidata process
My experience is that the standard techniques don't work! The way I kill rogue processes like this is, on the server, go into task manager. Right-click the process. Do NOT select kill process, it won't work. Instead, select the other, attach debugger, option. The process will promptly do a Dr Watson and die. We occasionally get rogue processes hog cpu and the machine grinds to a halt. Being a twin processor, we don't notice if there's only one rogue, but two is nasty ... Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Paterson Sent: 05 March 2004 09:55 To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: How to safely kill a runaway unidata process Running deleteuser from the command prompt as an administrator should suffice. Run it without arguments to get the syntax. Robert Paterson Technology Support Manager IBM Certified Solutions Expert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave S Sent: 04 March 2004 22:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to safely kill a runaway unidata process One of our users decided to run a report this morning at 9:30 and it still running. They lost the connection to the server, the process id is still out there and we are unable to kill it. We tried the DELETUSER PID command and it did not go away. The process is using 200 megs of memory. We are running Unidata 6.06 on Windows 2000. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Optio
We currently have Optio 6.3 on windows 2000 and have a requirement for users to be able to simply view the documents on the screen. I vaguely remember that you can point the optio process at a 'Print to file' printer, and then open the file. Unfortunately cannot find an optio manual. I would be grateful for any advise on the easiest way to do this, I am thinking I would need to 'Print to file' on the server, and then maybe open on the client with a suitable viewer. I know the new version of Optio can achieve this, but I cannot really justify the expense for this requirement. Thanks. Graham Forbes BT Syntegra This email may contain information which is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, please notify the sender immediately and delete it without reading, copying, storing, forwarding or disclosing its contents to any other person Thank you Check us out at http://www.syntegra.com -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Eclipse
Brian, There are some reasonably close approximations for most of the legacy elements - and I've only ever looked at the task from the perspective of moving legacy applications into an environment like Viságe, because in the process you would cull much of the 'dead wood' that inhabits systems that have evolved in a granular manner over a long period of time As you say, trying to make this happen for a system that hasn't been developed with some thought to structure would be difficult, and as you suggest for many legacy systems would rapidly become a bigger task than re-designing the entire system, with little or no obvious/immediate payback Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage - an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 8:33 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: Eclipse Ross, That sounds like an interesting project ! I agree with you over the commercial aspect. The only way it could be done reasonably would be as an open source project - and frankly I doubt it would get the contributors. I can see how using UML to model a new system could work, so long as you restricted the design to include only those elements that can be sensibly handled by the UML. But what about that dreaded 'legacy' element for which there is no formal notation: for example, Q pointers, select lists, single and multiple level data files, USING clauses and global dictionaries, horrible hetrogenous values generated from SB+: not to mention the obvious virtual fields... I would think that representing an existing system could be a nightmare. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris Sent: 07 March 2004 10:04 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Eclipse UML can be used for this, though it's been around 5 years since we have done anything serious. At the time we were a Rational Rose Partner, and were following the work of BoldSoft, who had developed a round trip model driven development environment that generated applications in Delphi. We had developed an SQL Schema generator as a plug-in, but had an MV version as well (which was never commercially sold) Suffice to say that Rational came out with there own inbuilt schema generator, and BoldSoft was acquired by Delphi. Anyway, Rose was nice because at the end of the day you could save/load a UML document as an ordinary (structured) text file, which was easy to read, generate process on the pick side of the equation. I haven't looked at Rose in recent years, but I would imagine that there is now an XML output option, and support for XML Data Structures, which map quite nicely to mv Data. But somehow I don't think that any money spent on a code generation module out the back end of Rose is going to see a return Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage - an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Friday, 5 March 2004 8:42 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: Eclipse Chuck - Flame, flame, flame ! grin UML could be a useful tool for us all - if it were capable of representing MV constructs. And if they dropped those 'actors' for the Use Case phase - am I the only person who finds that notation irritating? It looks pre-schoolish - and anyway a system event is not a person. (You can shout at it and it rarely shouts back). Pity - it would be nice to have a formal way of defining MV systems that the rest of the world could recognize. In fact, it would be nice to have a formal way of defining MV systems - period. I know there are products that do it (including our own!) but I want a method, not a product. Then certain sectors might take us more seriously. Brian Not so Rational this morning Leach -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Results Sent: 05 March 2004 01:29 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: Eclipse Ross, [Warning: Let the flames begin] I don't see UML as a step that has value. There are many ways to shape a project that reflect practical considerations. My experience of UML is that it is a method for separating projects from common sense and practical results. - Charles Rational Rationale Barouch Ross Ferris wrote: _ __ _ This email was checked on leaving Microgen for viruses, similar malicious code and inappropriate content by MessageLabs SkyScan. DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or
Re: Brower based terminal emulator
More work one time vs more work everytime the system is used?? I meant this as a response to someones suggestion that they use wine to run a windows based terminal emulator on linux. To me, that makes no sense at all. Yes, the terminfo sources are a pain to setup right, but running wine for a terminal emulator will just make the system run slower and will make you look like a fool if another more savy consultant happens to wonder by. One of the benefits of using a system like UniVerse or UniData is that it allows for all sorts of different clients to use it. But, you do have to put in some effort, especially if your dealing with an older Pick app that was written with embedded terminal and printer codes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/04 09:19PM In a message dated 3/7/2004 7:59:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edit the terminal sources on the Linux box then and make them do whatever it is you need them to do. Far more efficient than cranking up a windows based emulated emulator That's a little more work for some people, then just finding an emulator that does it right in the first place. Will -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
UV - Database backup
What are the suggested means of backing up a UV system without taking it down ?? Is there a document anywhere with the benifits / drawbacks of the following methods (or any other methods) uvbackup T.DUMP tar mirror disk system + tar etc _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV - Database backup
I doubt there is a method that will allow backup a UV database without stopping it and getting everybody off the system. If you have a mirrored system you could split the mirrors, backup the mirror and then remerge the mirrors but you would need to get everybody off the system for the split. My 2 cents? Louis - Original Message - From: Armon Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: UV - Database backup : : What are the suggested means of backing up a UV system without taking it : down ?? : : Is there a document anywhere with the benifits / drawbacks of the following : methods (or any other methods) : : uvbackup : T.DUMP : tar : mirror disk system + tar : : etc : : _ : It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! : http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger : : -- : u2-users mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users : -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: UV - Database backup
Given your stated requirements, the ONLY safe way for you is uvbackup. This runs within the database, and as such will not have trouble (much) with people accessing files. Any os-level backup will hiccup on files the db may have open. Running UV/NT, for us the problem is so severe that we always reboot the server after backing up (there are ways round the problems we've hit, but a reboot is simple, practical and works ...) Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Armon Group Sent: 08 March 2004 12:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UV - Database backup What are the suggested means of backing up a UV system without taking it down ?? Is there a document anywhere with the benifits / drawbacks of the following methods (or any other methods) uvbackup T.DUMP tar mirror disk system + tar etc _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: UV - Database backup
Firstly - do not tar a running uv system! This is because: A) you will get physical errors if writes are in progress. B) you will get logical errors if transactions are in progress. C) if you use dynamic files, the headers will not be updated. D) 'nuff said uvbackup should be aware of the write context so as to prevent the problems associated with A and C, but not B unless you use transactions. The only safe way to backup the database is if it is either stopped or quiescent. AFAIR you can pause the database using SUSPEND.FILES if you need to run a backup without taking the system down, but make sure any users are aware that the database is stopped and that any application transactions have completed before issuing it. You can the uvbackup to disk (for speed), dump that backup to device and use transaction logging until the next backup. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Armon Group Sent: 08 March 2004 12:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UV - Database backup What are the suggested means of backing up a UV system without taking it down ?? Is there a document anywhere with the benifits / drawbacks of the following methods (or any other methods) uvbackup T.DUMP tar mirror disk system + tar etc _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ __ This email was checked by MessageLabs SkyScan before entering Microgen. This email was checked on leaving Microgen for viruses, similar malicious code and inappropriate content by MessageLabs SkyScan. DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information. In the event of any technical difficulty with this email, please contact the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microgen Information Management Solutions http://www.microgen.co.uk -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: UX to NT
I have not been using -nodrv. I see that is says strip drive letters. Whatever that means. Should I build the account first using the UniAdmin then do the restore or viasa-versa(?) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:22 AM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: UX to NT Mark, Are you specifying -nodrv when restoring? Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Waldron Sent: 07 March 2004 22:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UX to NT Having trouble with the uvbackup on unix and uvrestore on w2k box. I set up another disk area for my accounts to go into rather that the c:\IBM\UV default. When I do the restore the W2k box always creates the new account on the c:\IBM\ drive rather than my U: drive like I want it to. I have tried uvrestore at the command prompt like the manual says but it creates the account without the necessary structure to do the UPDATE.ACCOUNTSo I may be missing something simple. Thanks in advance Mark -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ __ This email was checked by MessageLabs SkyScan before entering Microgen. This email was checked on leaving Microgen for viruses, similar malicious code and inappropriate content by MessageLabs SkyScan. DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information. In the event of any technical difficulty with this email, please contact the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microgen Information Management Solutions http://www.microgen.co.uk -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV - Database backup
We don't come down for backups... We're 24/7 - the docs tend to want their lab results in a timely manner. We come down once a month for PM and that can be (and has been) rescheduled because of medical reasons, such as a transplant. We're usually down under 2 hours per month. We run HP-UX 11.0, and UV 9.5. We used to use Logical Volume Manager (LVM) and MirrorDisk/UX to handle the drives. To run a backup we'd split the mirrors, backup the stale part and re-merge them. There were drawbacks to this method though. Either you had to have 3 mirror parts, or be running on a single part when split, and the re-merging of the mirrors took a few minutes. We did NOT have to have everyone off the system for the splits or the merges. When we moved to HP-UX 11.0, we also purchased OnlineJFS. This is a Veritas product HP sells. With it I can make drive changes on-the-fly both - both increases and decreases provided contiguous free space exists to reduce it. It also has the ability to analyze and defrag a filesystem online. But the really nice feature is taking a 'snapshot' of a filesystem. When you snapshot you get another virtual filesystem that has an image of how the filesystem looks at that moment. All writes to the filesystem actually go to the snapshots logical volume. Since only the writes go to the snapshot, it's volume only needs to be large enough to hold the writes themselves. The app can read and write as normal to it's regular volumes never knowing the difference. Vxfs and OnlineJFS handle it without the app knowing. When you undo a snapshot, the stored writes get written to the real volume to catch up. Again this happens transparently to the application. We still use MirrorDisk/UX but now we never split the mirrors. Since we're talking about a journalled filesystem, when the snapshot completes the filesystem is in a consistent state. That's not to say that UV couldn't be caching something itself that's not on disk. For us that's a smaller issue than taking the system down to do backups, something we haven't done in the 9 years I've been here. We run 3 production-only backups and a full system (plus Novell and NT/SQL) backups every day. I've got 28 backups from the past week, plus every Sunday system backup of the last month, and every monthly backup from the past year should I need to restore. To handle the backups themselves, we're using HP Data Protector (formerly known as OmniBack) though licensing can be a little high depending on backup devices, and what you're backing up. To handle the snapshots at backup, I write shell scripts that does it and put them into the pre-exec and post-exec of the jobs. DP knows via return code from the scripts whether something went wrong and logs it appropriately. Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/04 06:41AM I doubt there is a method that will allow backup a UV database without stopping it and getting everybody off the system. If you have a mirrored system you could split the mirrors, backup the mirror and then remerge the mirrors but you would need to get everybody off the system for the split. My 2 cents? Louis - Original Message - From: Armon Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: UV - Database backup : etc : : _ : It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! : http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger : : -- : u2-users mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users : -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
U2 hardware conversion inquiry
We are a UniVerse shop that is investigating moving off our DEC/COMPAQ/HP hardware. Our company is a heavy user of IBM equipment and I am inquiring on folks' experience with moving UniVerse from the DEC/COMPAQ/HP to an IBM system. I am looking for very high level information. I know that most of the time, the devil is in the details but I have worked with PICK on various hardware platforms in the past without any real troubles and just need some general information c/o DEC/COMPAQ/HP to IBM to present to our team. Thanks, Tom Downey Universe 10.0.3 Digital UNIX CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2004 CIGNA -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV - Database backup
What effect would this be to the users? Also I don't see a SUSPEND.FILES in the online HELP, or the Administering guide. There is a SUSPEND.RECOVERY command though. So if we were to implement this, would it be like this? 1) SUSPEND.FILES 2) Snapshot the filesystem (then would I have a filesystem snapshot with no pending UV writes?) 3) (command to un-SUSPEND.FILES) 4) Run the backup 5) Undo the snapshot Any potential gotchas with doing this? Thanks, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/04 10:34AM Robert Porter wrote on 03/08/2004 10:59:43 AM: Since we're talking about a journalled filesystem, when the snapshot completes the filesystem is in a consistent state. That's not to say that UV couldn't be caching something itself that's not on disk. If you use SUSPEND.FILES or uv -admin -L before creating your quiescent copy, you can ensure that there's nothing in motion at the UniVerse level. Tim Snyder IBM Data Management Solutions Consulting I/T Specialist , U2 Professional Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV - Database backup
Robert Porter wrote on 03/08/2004 12:35:29 PM: What effect would this be to the users? Also I don't see a SUSPEND. FILES in the online HELP, or the Administering guide. There is a SUSPEND.RECOVERY command though. So if we were to implement this, would it be like this? 1) SUSPEND.FILES 2) Snapshot the filesystem (then would I have a filesystem snapshot with no pending UV writes?) 3) (command to un-SUSPEND.FILES) 4) Run the backup 5) Undo the snapshot Any potential gotchas with doing this? For the duration of the suspension, processes attempting to perform database writes will appear to hang until the suspension is removed. If you follow the procedures you've outlined, this will last for the duration of the snapshot - fairly minimal on most systems. The result will be, as you suspect, a quiescent copy of the database, with no worries about catching groups in mid-update. SUSPEND.FILES is documented in the UniVerse User Reference manual (and briefly in the admin manual). The commands are SUSPEND.FILES ON and SUSPEND.FILES OFF. If you're doing it from the O/S level, you may want to use the uv -admin -L option, which performs the same thing as SUSPEND.FILES ON. uv -admin -U will turn it off. This is a fairly common practice. I'm not aware of any gotchas. Tim Snyder IBM Data Management Solutions Consulting I/T Specialist , U2 Professional Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: U2 hardware conversion inquiry
Would that be DEC/COMPACQ/HP Unix to IBM AIX or DEC/COMPAC/HP WinNT/2000/3003 to IBM AIX or DEC/COMPAQ/HP WINwhatever to IBM WINwhatever? Hardware isnt really the issue. -Original Message- From: Downey, Thomas A 454 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:01 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: U2 hardware conversion inquiry We are a UniVerse shop that is investigating moving off our DEC/COMPAQ/HP hardware. Our company is a heavy user of IBM equipment and I am inquiring on folks' experience with moving UniVerse from the DEC/COMPAQ/HP to an IBM system. I am looking for very high level information. I know that most of the time, the devil is in the details but I have worked with PICK on various hardware platforms in the past without any real troubles and just need some general information c/o DEC/COMPAQ/HP to IBM to present to our team. Thanks, Tom Downey Universe 10.0.3 Digital UNIX CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2004 CIGNA -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: U2 hardware conversion inquiry
Thanks for the reply, I didn't believe the hardware would be an issue, I believe it will be to IBM AIX. Tom -Original Message- From: Jeff Schasny [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:03 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject:RE: U2 hardware conversion inquiry Would that be DEC/COMPACQ/HP Unix to IBM AIX or DEC/COMPAC/HP WinNT/2000/3003 to IBM AIX or DEC/COMPAQ/HP WINwhatever to IBM WINwhatever? Hardware isnt really the issue. -Original Message- From: Downey, Thomas A 454 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:01 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: U2 hardware conversion inquiry We are a UniVerse shop that is investigating moving off our DEC/COMPAQ/HP hardware. Our company is a heavy user of IBM equipment and I am inquiring on folks' experience with moving UniVerse from the DEC/COMPAQ/HP to an IBM system. I am looking for very high level information. I know that most of the time, the devil is in the details but I have worked with PICK on various hardware platforms in the past without any real troubles and just need some general information c/o DEC/COMPAQ/HP to IBM to present to our team. Thanks, Tom Downey Universe 10.0.3 Digital UNIX CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2004 CIGNA -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail at the address shown. This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended even if addressed incorrectly. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. Thank you for your compliance. Copyright (c) 2004 CIGNA -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
SQL Server , UniOLEDB subtables
we have set up universe 10 in SQL Server 2K as a linked database via UniOLEDB. we have a test file set up that consists of 2 single valued fields 2 multi valued fields at the universe command prompt we can access both the table and the virtual table for the multi values : SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB ; @IDS1 S2M1 M2 AAA A B CD G H BBB I J K L M N O P SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB_MV ; @IDM1 M2 @ASSOC_ROW AAA CD 1 G H 2 BBBK L 1 MN2 O P3 in SQL Server the following works just fine - we get the expected 2 row table with the columns @ID , S1 S2 : SELECT * FROM OPENQUERY( [UVCON] , 'SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB') however any attempt to access the sub table : SELECT * FROM OPENQUERY( [UVCON] , 'SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB_MV') pretty much causes the pc to come grinding to a halt - cpu usage goes to 100%, connection activity stops and we have to restart SQL Server to abort the select. I have not been able to locate any type of error info either in uv or on the pc. I tried double quoting the table name assuming this was a problem with the _ character - no effect In the linked database properties I set a query timeout of 30 seconds and a connection timeout of 30 seconds but I have let this query run for 10 minutes without getting any timeout errors. any ideas ? does universe keep any type of log for oleDB access - i can't find one to see if the request is even getting to universe. gerry -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV - Database backup
I just searched the admin guide, and the user reference, and SUSPEND.FILES wasn't found in either of them. Could this be version related? Tried it in the development account, and got this: :SUSPEND.FILES Verb SUSPEND.FILES is not in your VOC. Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/04 11:58AM SUSPEND.FILES is documented in the UniVerse User Reference manual (and briefly in the admin manual). The commands are SUSPEND.FILES ON and SUSPEND.FILES OFF. If you're doing it from the O/S level, you may want toQ use the uv -admin -L option, which performs the same thing as SUSPEND.FILES ON. uv -admin -U will turn it off. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: UV - Database backup
fyi - SUSPEND.FILES doesn't exist in user accounts... only UV account. -Original Message- From: Robert Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UV - Database backup I just searched the admin guide, and the user reference, and SUSPEND.FILES wasn't found in either of them. Could this be version related? Tried it in the development account, and got this: :SUSPEND.FILES Verb SUSPEND.FILES is not in your VOC. Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/04 11:58AM SUSPEND.FILES is documented in the UniVerse User Reference manual (and briefly in the admin manual). The commands are SUSPEND.FILES ON and SUSPEND.FILES OFF. If you're doing it from the O/S level, you may want toQ use the uv -admin -L option, which performs the same thing as SUSPEND.FILES ON. uv -admin -U will turn it off. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: UV - Database backup
You may not have SUSPEND.FILES as the following link indicates this feature was added on the 9.5C release: http://www.indexinfocus.com/dl/u2list/200211/40606.html I wouldn't be surprised if SUSPEND.FILES didn't make it into the User Ref documentation until 9.6, or later. You might check the UV account VOC file for an item called SUSPEND.FILES... if you have this item, then I would think the SUSPEND.FILES command is available for you to use. Tom Firl Columbia Ultimate -Original Message- From: Robert Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UV - Database backup I just searched the admin guide, and the user reference, and SUSPEND.FILES wasn't found in either of them. Could this be version related? Tried it in the development account, and got this: :SUSPEND.FILES Verb SUSPEND.FILES is not in your VOC. Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/04 11:58AM SUSPEND.FILES is documented in the UniVerse User Reference manual (and briefly in the admin manual). The commands are SUSPEND.FILES ON and SUSPEND.FILES OFF. If you're doing it from the O/S level, you may want toQ use the uv -admin -L option, which performs the same thing as SUSPEND.FILES ON. uv -admin -U will turn it off. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
UNCLASSIFIED RE: How to safely kill a runaway UniVerse (was unida ta) process
Hmm When I do that on my W2K3 / UV 10 server, the right-button click menu has debug greyed out. Is that a UV 'feature', or have I got something configured wrong? I am an Administrator of the server, and I installed UV on it, so I should be fully enabled for this kind of work. TIA Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 11:54 p.m. To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: How to safely kill a runaway unidata process My experience is that the standard techniques don't work! The way I kill rogue processes like this is, on the server, go into task manager. Right-click the process. Do NOT select kill process, it won't work. Instead, select the other, attach debugger, option. The process will promptly do a Dr Watson and die. Cheers, Wol The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[UV] Change prompt?
OK, I know about UVPROMPT, but it will only let you specify a single character. I work in numerous accounts, and it would be good if the LOGIN PA could change the prompt to have multiple characters so I can see which account I'm in. Believe me, all it takes is one mistake to leave a lasting impression. Anyone know of a way to use multiple chars for the prompt without writing my own shell? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [UV] Date-Time stamping
Are you sure it doesn't (press F5 to refresh the Explorer view?) If you're talking about a dynamic hashed file, it's DATA.30 (and/or OVER.30) that would be updated, not their parent directory. - Original Message - From: Marco Manyevere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:16:38 + (GMT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UV] Date-Time stamping Hi All, When does universe update the OS level date time stamp ? On Windows XP UV9.6, if I make changes to a record (even create a new record) and commit it to disk, the date and time shown under the 'Date Modified' column in Windows explorer does not change. However, if I modify the same record using the ED command, the time stamp in explorer changes immediately. On Unix I remember relying on sorting files by the time stamp to determine which files were actively being updated by users and I used to get reasonable results. What do I need to change to get the same behaviour on XP? Regards, Marco - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [UV] Change prompt?
If it helps, I can assert with certainty that there is nothing in UniVerse that allows this. It's easy enough to roll your own; a small BASIC program into which you trap your users. LOOP CRT myprompt INPUT command WHILE command 'QUIT' GOSUB processcommand REPEAT PERFORM QUIT - Original Message - From: Barry Brevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:42:22 -0800 To: U2 list (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UV] Change prompt? OK, I know about UVPROMPT, but it will only let you specify a single character. I work in numerous accounts, and it would be good if the LOGIN PA could change the prompt to have multiple characters so I can see which account I'm in. Believe me, all it takes is one mistake to leave a lasting impression. Anyone know of a way to use multiple chars for the prompt without writing my own shell? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [UV] Change prompt?
Barry Brevik wrote: OK, I know about UVPROMPT, but it will only let you specify a single character. I work in numerous accounts, and it would be good if the LOGIN PA could change the prompt to have multiple characters so I can see which account I'm in. Believe me, all it takes is one mistake to leave a lasting impression. Anyone know of a way to use multiple chars for the prompt without writing my own shell? I had the same concern a few years ago. We have a development account which is a verbatim copy of yesterday's production environment so it's pretty easy to forget where you are. I ended up writing a basic program that replaces the UV prompt with the currect directory name. I also added code to duplicate all the command stack functionality (.X, .C, .D) because I use those commands frequently. I'd be happy to share the code. Email me off-list if you're interested. -John -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
UNCLASSIFIED RE: U2 hardware conversion inquiry
Tom, Some aspects you haven't mentioned: You are considering going to an 'IBM system', but which of the four platforms are you thinking about? Power/AIX? Power/Linux? x86/Linux? x86/Windows? We moved from HP-UX to IBM x86/Windows, it was no particular drama. More details off-line if you want Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Downey, Thomas A 454 Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 6:01 a.m. To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: U2 hardware conversion inquiry We are a UniVerse shop that is investigating moving off our DEC/COMPAQ/HP hardware. Our company is a heavy user of IBM equipment and I am inquiring on folks' experience with moving UniVerse from the DEC/COMPAQ/HP to an IBM system. I am looking for very high level information. I know that most of the time, the devil is in the details but I have worked with PICK on various hardware platforms in the past without any real troubles and just need some general information c/o DEC/COMPAQ/HP to IBM to present to our team. Thanks, Tom Downey Universe 10.0.3 Digital UNIX The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
UNCLASSIFIED RE: UV - Database backup
Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Snyder Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 6:58 a.m. To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: UV - Database backup [snip] If you're doing it from the O/S level, you may want to use the uv -admin -L option, which performs the same thing as SUSPEND.FILES ON. uv -admin -U will turn it off. Where are these commands documented? The 10.0.15 Admin.pdf manual mentions only uv -admin -start, uv -admin -stop, and uv -admin -c Are there any other really useful uv -admin ... subcommands like -L and -U that you can share with us? Thanks Mike This is a fairly common practice. I'm not aware of any gotchas. Tim Snyder IBM Data Management Solutions Consulting I/T Specialist , U2 Professional Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [UV] Change prompt?
Yep. Sure do. You could fix that with: 0001 PQ 0002 M 0003 IF #S Oany_text:+ 0004 IF S Oany_text+ 0005 IP #1 0006 P 0007 GO B At 03:16 PM 03/08/2004, you wrote: Seems however, you lose your marker that a select list is active. George -Original Message- From: Glenn Herbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 3:10 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: [UV] Change prompt? You could also use a very handy and small bit of proc code hooked directly into your LOGIN entry or called from there: 001 PQ (or PQN) 002 M 003 Oyour_text_here+ 004 IP #1 005 P 006 GO B This code (M)arks an entry point, outputs whatever text you want while inhibiting any line feed, and waits for the user input, which is stored into the output buffer (IP #1) then executed (P), after which it loops back to the (M)ark point. At 02:48 PM 03/08/2004, you wrote: If it helps, I can assert with certainty that there is nothing in UniVerse that allows this. It's easy enough to roll your own; a small BASIC program into which you trap your users. LOOP CRT myprompt INPUT command WHILE command 'QUIT' GOSUB processcommand REPEAT PERFORM QUIT - Original Message - From: Barry Brevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:42:22 -0800 To: U2 list (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UV] Change prompt? OK, I know about UVPROMPT, but it will only let you specify a single character. I work in numerous accounts, and it would be good if the LOGIN PA could change the prompt to have multiple characters so I can see which account I'm in. Believe me, all it takes is one mistake to leave a lasting impression. Anyone know of a way to use multiple chars for the prompt without writing my own shell? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UNCLASSIFIED RE: UV - Database backup
I believe (since I wrote all that stuff) that issuing uv -admin will display all your available options. Since that original version, I've added additional (DataStage engine only) options for displaying things like engine status, active users, etc, as well as allowing you to start and stop multiple versions (yes, more than one can run on a system now), allowing you to enable/disable autostartup at system boot, changing administer name, etc At 03:37 PM 03/08/2004, you wrote: Tim -Original Message- Are there any other really useful uv -admin ... subcommands like -L and -U that you can share with us? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: UNCLASSIFIED RE: UV - Database backup
Afraid not, Glenn - E:\IBM\UV\binuv -admin E:\IBM\UV\bin - Nothing at all, I'm afraid :-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Herbert Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 9:45 a.m. To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: UNCLASSIFIED RE: UV - Database backup I believe (since I wrote all that stuff) that issuing uv -admin will display all your available options. Since that original version, I've added additional (DataStage engine only) options for displaying things like engine status, active users, etc, as well as allowing you to start and stop multiple versions (yes, more than one can run on a system now), allowing you to enable/disable autostartup at system boot, changing administer name, etc At 03:37 PM 03/08/2004, you wrote: Tim -Original Message- Are there any other really useful uv -admin ... subcommands like -L and -U that you can share with us? The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: UNCLASSIFIED RE: UV - Database backup
Works for me 8-)
sudo /usr/opt/uv/bin/uv -admin
uv [ -admin option]
-c{learshm} clear BASIC catalog bit.
-start start uniVerse.
-stop shutdown uniVerse.
-L{ock} Suspend file I/O.
-R{eport} Current suspension status.
-U{nlock} Unsuspend file I/O.
sudo /usr/opt/uv/bin/uv -version
UniVerse 10.0.8
Regards
David Logan
Database Administrator
HP Managed Services
139 Frome Street,
Adelaide 5000
Australia
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+61 417 268 665
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On Behalf Of HENDERSON MICHAEL MR
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Afraid not, Glenn
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E:\IBM\UV\binuv -admin
E:\IBM\UV\bin
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Nothing at all, I'm afraid
:-(
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I believe (since I wrote all that stuff) that issuing uv -admin will
display all your available options. Since that original version, I've
added
additional (DataStage engine only) options for displaying things like
engine
status, active users, etc, as well as allowing you to start and stop
multiple versions (yes, more than one can run on a system now), allowing
you
to enable/disable autostartup at system boot, changing administer name,
etc
At 03:37 PM 03/08/2004, you wrote:
Tim
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Are there any other really useful uv -admin ... subcommands like -L
and -U that you can share with us?
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RE: [UV] Change prompt?
Another method if you are using a terminal emulator is to use the login paragrah to change the title of the session at the top of the screen. I also try to change the screen color, ie Red background is the live account which you should also be able to set through the login paragraph Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dacono Holdings Pty Ltd Business Technology Consulting PO Box 909 Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia Ph 61 2 9418 8329 Fax 61 2 9427 2371 www.dacono.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Brevik Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 6:42 AM To: U2 list (E-mail) Subject: [UV] Change prompt? OK, I know about UVPROMPT, but it will only let you specify a single character. I work in numerous accounts, and it would be good if the LOGIN PA could change the prompt to have multiple characters so I can see which account I'm in. Believe me, all it takes is one mistake to leave a lasting impression. Anyone know of a way to use multiple chars for the prompt without writing my own shell? -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
UniVerse on NT vs *nix
I am under considerable pressure to convert from UniVerse on AIX to UniVerse on Windows 2003. We have licenses for 320 users and do get up to this number at times although 300 is more normal. We run up to 30 phantom processes during the day above this interactive user count. At times these would be running in parallel, processing sections of our customer base. This is a daily event during the afternoon whilst other users are doing normal work. Currently we run UniVerse 10.0.11 on an IBM p660 with 4 cpus and 7Gb ram. We also run Oracle and Vantive on this same box which is why the ram is so high. We transfer data between UniVerse and Oracle real time using BCI OpenLink. The reverse is an in-house Oracle Pipes development which is gradually being replaced by UniObjects for Java. I anticipate we would need to run these applications on separate boxes if under Windows 2003. Our DBAs, both UniVerse and Oracle, are reluctant to go down this path as they believe they will not have the same ability to monitor their systems. I would appreciate comments, good and bad, from anyone with experience of this number of users in an Windows environment. Email me off-line if this seems appropriate. Thanks in anticipation Sara Burns Sara Burns (SEB) Project Leader (Vantive) Public Trust Phone: +64 (04) 474-3841 (DDI) Mobile: 027 457 5974 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Information contained in this communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient the information should not be used, disclosed, copied or commercialised. The information is not necessarily the views nor the official communication of Public Trust. No guarantee or representation is made that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UniVerse on NT vs *nix
My 2 cents: Are the persons applying the pressure MS preferred for its own sake or is it the result of an actual comparison of AIX to W2003. A client of mine bought into an MS app because of the implied greatness of MS only to have a huge disappointment. mark - Original Message - From: Sara Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: UniVerse on NT vs *nix I am under considerable pressure to convert from UniVerse on AIX to UniVerse on Windows 2003. We have licenses for 320 users and do get up to this number at times although 300 is more normal. We run up to 30 phantom processes during the day above this interactive user count. At times these would be running in parallel, processing sections of our customer base. This is a daily event during the afternoon whilst other users are doing normal work. Currently we run UniVerse 10.0.11 on an IBM p660 with 4 cpus and 7Gb ram. We also run Oracle and Vantive on this same box which is why the ram is so high. We transfer data between UniVerse and Oracle real time using BCI OpenLink. The reverse is an in-house Oracle Pipes development which is gradually being replaced by UniObjects for Java. I anticipate we would need to run these applications on separate boxes if under Windows 2003. Our DBAs, both UniVerse and Oracle, are reluctant to go down this path as they believe they will not have the same ability to monitor their systems. I would appreciate comments, good and bad, from anyone with experience of this number of users in an Windows environment. Email me off-line if this seems appropriate. Thanks in anticipation Sara Burns Sara Burns (SEB) Project Leader (Vantive) Public Trust Phone: +64 (04) 474-3841 (DDI) Mobile: 027 457 5974 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Information contained in this communication is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient the information should not be used, disclosed, copied or commercialised. The information is not necessarily the views nor the official communication of Public Trust. No guarantee or representation is made that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
New offering, NebulaPay credit/debit payment processing
We're almost finished with the new NebulaPay, which facilitates internet-based payment processing for a wide variety of transaction types including standard credit and debit, EBT, check verification, restaurant/gratuity, and others. Source transactions can come from POS, web site, by phone, recurring charges, etc.. NebulaPay will support both USA and Canadian regulations and will support both English and French applications over Win32 and Linux/Unix platforms. All major cards are supported. This software will be offered free to MV VARs. There are no sign-up fees, initial purchases, or maintenance or support fees. (We reserve the right to modify this policy in the future, though we don't forsee any need at this time.) We help to negotiate transfer from a merchant's existing payment provider to ours, for an equal or better rate to the merchant - they never notice the difference unless they're saving money. Processing fees are then split between the payment provider, the VAR and us - everyone benefits and there are no extra costs to merchants or consumers. At this time we're looking for U2 VARs that have a need to implement or re-fit payment processing with their application. The D3 port is now in beta and we will go production supporting mvBASE as well. A jBASE port will immediately follow. Universe and Unidata will be supported if there is demand - which is the reason for this post. All inquiries are welcome, especially VARs interested in running a Beta, once the code is ported to U2. Thanks and regards, Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: UniVerse on NT vs *nix
Sara Burns wrote: I am under considerable pressure to convert from UniVerse on AIX to UniVerse on Windows 2003. We have licenses for 320 users and do get up to this number at times although 300 is more normal. Sara, Perhaps you need to go to those applying the pressure with a confident air and tell them that you fully support their courageous initiative? That while you can't actually find any other UniVerse sites running this sort of user count successfully on W2K3 nor, in fact anybody running the sort of BCI interface to Oracle that Public Trust has on W2K3, that there have been no end of positive enquiries from consultants keen to assist you with your project on an hourly rate basis! Good luck Sara, email me offline if you really do end up saddled with implementing this project and need some professional assistance. All the best, Ken -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [UV] Change prompt?
Just a minor correction. Provided you have set your terminal type to a matching entry in the SYS.TERMINALS file, the correct keybindings will be mapped. For example, if your terminal type is set to vt220, this load the VT220.IKBIND from SYS.TERMINALS. This is the only one I have tested. Regards David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hona, David S Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:19 AM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: [UV] Change prompt? In UV 10.0.x and above (IIRC), the COMMAND.EDITOR was ported from Prime INFORMATION/PIOpen (albeit with more than a few bugs!). This command allows you to change the TCL prompt with a character string of your choice... COMMAND.EDITOR ON ALL MyAccount MyAccount COMMAND.EDITOR Allows you to use function keys (like cursor keys) to edit not your command-line (TCL), but also in BASIC programs (ie. at INPUT statements/prompts). It is also good for new users who keep press all those functions keys that do nothing except insert escape sequences everywhere! :-) Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have implement all the nice features of the PI version and the keyboard mapping only seems to support fundamental mode (EMACS-style control-keys). Oh, well - you can't have everything! Regards David -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [UV] Change prompt?
Could you share the source of the small program? I use putty, a freeware download, which gives very tight control over it's size, appearance, etc. It supports transparent printing, too, if your app has hooks ( @(-23) for auxon and @(-24) for auxoff) to print a screen. Karl On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also change the title of the terminal emulator window (via a small program run from the LOGIN paragraph) - a side benefit being you get the account name on the task bar button as well, which makes finding the correct session a breeze. -Original Message- From: djordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 05:44 To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: [UV] Change prompt? Another method if you are using a terminal emulator is to use the login paragrah to change the title of the session at the top of the screen. I also try to change the screen color, ie Red background is the live account which you should also be able to set through the login paragraph Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dacono Holdings Pty Ltd Business Technology Consulting PO Box 909 Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia Ph 61 2 9418 8329 Fax 61 2 9427 2371 www.dacono.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Brevik Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 6:42 AM To: U2 list (E-mail) Subject: [UV] Change prompt? OK, I know about UVPROMPT, but it will only let you specify a single character. I work in numerous accounts, and it would be good if the LOGIN PA could change the prompt to have multiple characters so I can see which account I'm in. Believe me, all it takes is one mistake to leave a lasting impression. Anyone know of a way to use multiple chars for the prompt without writing my own shell? -- Karl L. Pearson Director of IT, ATS Industrial Supply Direct: 801-978-4429 Toll-free: 888-972-3182 x29 Fax: 801-972-3888 http://www.atsindustrial.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: SQL Server , UniOLEDB subtables
I suggest you read-up on how to enable the UCI logging feature. As UniOLEDB uses UCI to communicate with UV. See 'Administrative Supplement for Client APIs' pages 3-21 and 3-22. Of course, this will just help with issues at the UV end. Regards David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry simpson Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 5:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SQL Server , UniOLEDB subtables we have set up universe 10 in SQL Server 2K as a linked database via UniOLEDB. we have a test file set up that consists of 2 single valued fields 2 multi valued fields at the universe command prompt we can access both the table and the virtual table for the multi values : SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB ; [snip] any ideas ? does universe keep any type of log for oleDB access - i can't find one to see if the request is even getting to universe. gerry -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
