SpecialFolderPath(26) on Vista

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Has anybody any experience with writing files to this folder on  
Vista? Will it still be open, or do I have to write the files to  
another folder? What about c:/temp?


Signe Marie Sanne
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Open mail on Windows

[Signe Marie Sanne]

On Windows NT, with latest engines and MetaCard 2.8.1, the following script 
does not work any more. Suggestions?


  put Mailto:  hvor into tEmailAddress
  if Mac is in platform() then
put open location  quote   tEmailAddress  quote into s
do s as AppleScript
  end if
  if the platform = win32 then
put empty into tTitle
set hideConsoleWindows to true
if NT is in systemVersion() then
  set the shellCommand to cmd.exe
  put quote  quote into tTitle
end if
get shell(Start tTitle  quote  tEmailAddress  quote)

Regards
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OT: Ugly fonts

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello BIll, thanks for your information about Appearance -- Effects  
-- Clear type. I have complained about ugly fonts on Windows XP  
(with a screen resolution of 1152x864) for several years now, and no  
one knew about this (or cared to suggest this for me).


Now I wonder: When a new computer is delivered to a private user,  
will the box with Clear type be default setting, or is is just  
Standard that is the default? Is the resolution 1280x1024 now used as  
default?


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Re: AW: Ugly fonts

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Thanks to you and to Bill for your useful information. Here's what I  
have found out after testing (I use Verdana all over):


Resolutions 1024x768 and 1152x864:

With textsize 18 and 24, plain style (white text on coloured  
background) I would recommend my users to turn on Clear type
Textcolor 100,100,100 (greyish black), textstyle bold, textsize 13  
and 14 may appear a little too hard/dark with Clear type on.


Resolution 1280x1024: It does not matter whether Clear type or  
Standard or none is used.


SIgne Marie Sanne

Den 12. apr. 2007 kl. 15:06 skrev Tiemo Hollmann TB:

As a Windows user I didn't even know about the cleartype option. I  
just gave
it a try and must say, I switched it off immediately, though I have  
a  flat
panel. I don't know if it is because I am used over the years to  
standard
display option, but with clear type the fonts look soo smooth and  
shadowy,

that I took my glasses, because it didn't looked sharp any more.

Just to give you my two cents ;-)



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Betreff: Re: Ugly fonts

Signe Marie Sanne,

Now I wonder: When a new computer is delivered to a private  
user,  will
the box with Clear type be default setting, or is it just   
Standard that

is the default? Is the resolution 1280x1024 now used as  default?


It all depends on the particular OEM.

ClearType was specifically developed for LCD displays, and some  
people do
not find it helpful when using a CRT-style display. As LCDs have  
fallen in
price and improved in quality, almost all new systems ship with  
LCDs. And

of
course notebooks use LCDs as well. So, the smart OEM will probably  
ship

with
ClearType on by default.

The last time I purchased a retail standalone copy of XP  
Professional, the
Standard method was enabled by default. This could easily be  
different

now,
as Microsoft tweaks things over time.

The standard resolutions also depend on the display shipped with the
system.
Usually its set to whatever the native resolution of the LCD  
happens to

be.

Having said all of that, I tried distributing a standalone some  
time ago
that looked much better with ClearType activated. I found that  
most users
did NOT have this option turned on. I tried to use a registry hack  
to turn

it on for them, but either I didn't know what I was doing, or some
additional step was needed besides updating the registry. So I  
ended up

just
providing instructions for people to do this on their own.

Even with ClearType turned on, Windows fonts appear thinner,  
overall, than

Mac ones. This is partly due to font metrics on the two systems, and
partly
because Macs use a darker smoothing algorithm than PCs.

- Bill



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Re: Alias to Folder?

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At least on Windows this works:

  put specialFolderPath(desktop)  /FolderName.lnk into  
shortcutName

  create alias(shortcutName) to file theFolder

Note that you use file even for a folder!

Den 29. mar. 2007 kl. 21:13 skrev Scott Rossi:


The docs say we have a create alias command.

Is it possible to create an alias to a folder?  (Rev 2.4, 2.7, 2.8)

Thanks  Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design


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Re: Duration of non supported applications

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Many thanks to Bill, David and Devin for your comments.
Since there seems to be no willingness (or resources) from our  
faculty to engage a new person to replace me, I'll stick to Bill's  
advice and update the programs to 2.8.
I do this because I think the contents of many of the programs may  
still be valid for a decade. for instance phonetical transcription of  
English, the terminology used in analysis of poems, grammatical  
exercises (even if the grammar terminology as such tends to change  
more often than I like) etc.


The programs have been developed for the study of English, French,  
Italian, Spanish, German, Boruca, Norwegian as a second language. In  
some of the programs, however, there are descriptions, translations  
of sentences in Norwegian, so they can be only used by Norwegians.


The most eager ones to make use of the programs have been the  
distance learning students, they are mostly more mature people than  
our regular students.


I'll probably be back with questions concerning the upgrading. Thank  
you again.


Signe Marie Sanne

Den 16. mar. 2007 kl. 19:26 skrev Bill Marriott:



I think for all practical purposes the answer to the original  
poster is:
Find a Vista machine and try your stuff out. If for some reason it  
doesn't
work, try re-building the standalone with Rev 2.8. It will  
undoubtedly work

great and continue to do so for the forseeable future.

I'f I'm somehow misunderstanding you, please help clarify.

- Bill



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Re: Duration of non supported applications

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Devin,
Since there seems to be scarce interest on behalf of our faculty to  
support the programs I have developed through 20 years, perhaps I  
should give them away free, at least to Revolution's educational  
community. All the time I have worked firmly convinced that they may  
prove most useful for the learning. This has been confirmed by some  
of the students, but most part of them seem not to have worked with  
them. However, in recent years I have no idea about how much  they  
have worked with the programs, since the link to downloading the  
portal stack is available in their students' network (or whatever it  
is called) and they probably work with them at home.


I still think the way they are distributed is fabulous, just one  
downloading of the portal stack (which I call the menu stack). If you  
want to have a look at the Italian programs, here is the link: http:// 
www.hf.uib.no/mlab/ItaMP/mcIta.html. User: studita  Password: itafj


As to a repository, isn't that what Marielle is trying to do  
something about?


Signe Marie

Den 16. mar. 2007 kl. 21:38 skrev Devin Asay:


On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:23 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote:
So far I have used MetaCard and engine 2.6.6. The programs make  
use of a portal stack (thanks to Sivakatirswami) which downloads/ 
opens the various educational programs. This downloading is done  
by http.


Signe,

I'd be interested in hearing more about this. I'm developing a  
similar approach with Rev, which I'm calling the Learning Web. You  
can take a look at it by downloading the beta version at


Mac OS X: http://asay.byu.edu/LW_MacOSX.dmg
Windows: http://asay.byu.edu/LW_setup.exe

A couple of people on the list have allowed me to link to stacks  
they've created as a demonstration of the concept. There are also  
links to a couple of stacks I've created and one that one of my  
students did.


We ought to explore the creation of a repository of web-based  
instructional stacks that could be run in this way.


Tell me what you think.

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Duration of non supported applications

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello to the list

After having used MetaCard since 1989 I'm now retiring from my job  
and there is no one to follow up my work.  Both I and the institute  
are worried about further usage of the educational programs I have  
developed for various foreign languages at our University. Many of  
the programs are purely textual, whereas some make use of QuickTime  
(only on Mac) and Microsoft Multimedia Tools for sound and graphic  
files.


So far I have used MetaCard and engine 2.6.6. The programs make use  
of a portal stack (thanks to Sivakatirswami) which downloads/opens  
the various educational programs. This downloading is done by http.


My questions to the group:
If the institute and the students are happy with the programs as  
they  are with no urgent need to change anything,  for how many years  
can we count on their functioning? 5? 10?


Should I convert them all to latest version of Revolution? Would this  
secure a longer life for them?


Can we  count on a contiuous existence of QuickTime and Microsoft  
Multimedia Tools when new systems arrive?


I would be happy to hear your opions.

Signe Marie Sanne




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Re: Umlaut--Success!

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello Devin,

I'm afraid none of the methods can be used. I have lots of texts in  
which I use # for the n with umlaut. These will be fed into fields  
on the fly appearing with the correct letter instead of the #. So  
far I have used images for various text sizes which work reasonably  
well. My problem arose when I wanted to select a line in the text,  
then having to change the colour of the image as well. So I think  
I'll stick to the images, just double the sets of images with  
selection colours as well.  Thanks for all the help from you and Mark.


Signe Marie Sanne

Den 28. feb. 2007 kl. 18:57 skrev Devin Asay:
 You *can* do this in Rev. Here's how I did it in OS X (I'm using  
rev 2.8 in OSX 10.4.8):


1. Create a field and set its textfont to a unicode font:
  set the textFont of fld unistuff to Verdana,unicode

2. Enable the Unicode Hex Input method in the International system  
prefs under the input tab. This will cause the Unicode Hex Input  
method to appear in the input menu (the one with the little flags  
on the right side of the menubar.)


3. Position the insert cursor in the field, choose Unicode Hex  
Input from the input menu, then type :

  n (then, holding alt/option key down) 0308

  the n with umlaut should appear.

Sorry, don't know how to do this via direct input in Windows.  
However, the following should work on either OS:


1. Create a UTF-8 encoded text file that includes the desired  
character. I used BBedit, making sure I chose a font that supported  
unicode (Tahoma or Lucida Grande should work) and that the document  
encoding was set to UTF-8, then created the n-umlaut character just  
as I described in #3 above.


2. Save the file to disk.

3. Read it in to your rev fld using the uniencode() function.

I've created a stack that shows how to do this.

go stack url http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/testUnicode.rev;

You may also want to download the utf-8 file from http:// 
revolution.byu.edu/unicode/textUni.ut8. This is the file that the  
sample stack reads from.


HTH

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Umlaut

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello
Perhaps someone of you may find a better solution to a small problem.  
I need to have the letter n with umlaut (tréma) in a text fld set to  
an ordinary textfont (verdana). So far I have used the imagesource,  
but I would like to know if there is a font (among those always  
present on both Mac and Windows) which will accomplish the same.


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Re: Umlaut

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello Klaus and Mark
Thanks for the reply, so far no good. I thought that perhaps there  
might be a unicode solution, or a solution with putting the trema  
atop the n in some way or other. Other suggestions?


Signe Marie

Den 28. feb. 2007 kl. 11:53 skrev Mark Schonewille:


Klaus,

That's a tilde, not a trema/umlaut.

Best,

Mark

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Op 28-feb-2007, om 11:34 heeft Klaus Major het volgende geschreven:


Hi Signe Marie,

On the Mac numtochar(150) will create this n with a trema in  
Verdana and other fonts.

Or manually with the keyboard: 1. ALT-n and 2. n

At least here on my german system.

Not booted my PC yet :-)


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Re: Umlaut

[Signe Marie Sanne]

It is used in the orthography for the Indian dialect Boruca, spoken  
by only few inhabitants in Costa Rica. I'm making a language/research  
program for a colleague of mine from Costa Rica, who is professor at  
our Spanish department.


Signe Marie Sanne

Den 28. feb. 2007 kl. 13:05 skrev Marc Siskin:

What will the Umlaut N represent?  I am trying to find references  
to that character and so far (I haven't looked within IPA) I  
haven't seen it.  What language Is the character supposed to be  
used in?


Thanks,

Marc Siskin
Manager, Modern Language Resource Center
Carnegie Mellon University
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On Feb 28, 2007, at 5:03 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote:


Hello
Perhaps someone of you may find a better solution to a small  
problem. I need to have the letter n with umlaut (tréma) in a text  
fld set to an ordinary textfont (verdana). So far I have used the  
imagesource, but I would like to know if there is a font (among  
those always present on both Mac and Windows) which will  
accomplish the same.


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Re: Where to Save Downloads -- Best Practice?

[Signe Marie Sanne]

So, what should one do? I guess the options are to use Application  
Support

On the Mac and some such similar special directory on Windows.
If I'm right, then what is it?

What we need is the standard, for-sure-to-work
location for saving the file to, such that it can be
successfully written, immediately, by script control
 without prompting  the user to pick a directory and name the file.
i.e. the default guaranteed for-sure-exists and is read -- write  
directories

for each platform.



Hello Katirswami,
I'm not sure if this already has been suggested to you, but did you  
try specialFolderPath(26)? This saves to C:/Documents and Settings/ 
MyUserId/Application Data/ which usually is open.


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Re: textColor misbehaving?

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Did you try

set the textColor of char 1 to -1 of fld FFF to red

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Re: Put URL failing -- HTTP header problems?

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Chipp Walters skrev:


Works fine here:

Rev 2.7.1, WinXP

Sivakatirswami wrote:


Can someone test this for me:

put this into your browser:

http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Acanthophoenix/

Result: web page as expected, Now, put this into your msg box in Rev:

put url http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Acanthophoenix/;



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On Windows XP - MetaCard Ide - the above just fills up the message box with 
all the source code.


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Re: movies on Win

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Nicolas Cueto skrev:

Hello List,

I'm looking to play 
WMV videos (or even

RM videos!) in my stacks,
but because the docs seem 
to favor the use of QT

for RunRev I'm having
trouble trying to learn
on my own how to implement 
playback of non-QT videos

in Win-based stacks.


My stack mciMpegVideo may help you. Can be found on Rev Online, under
username sms

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Re: A Custom Property Sets 'Database

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Michael Mandaville skrev:


Rather than dive into mySQL or altSQLite, (I am a Newbie), I was directed to
look at Custom Property Sets in order to use the 'internal databse' of
Revolution to store information.


Have a look at my stack CustPropDatabase on RevOnline, under username sms. 
Maybe that will be of help.


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Re: Changing Font Style of Text Already in a Field

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Gregory Lypny skrev:

Hello Everyone,

If I have a field full of text in, say, Geneva, and want it  changed 
to Lucida Grande, how do I do it with a handler?  I've tried

set the textFont of fld X to Lucida Grande
but that only changes a text property of the field itself but not the  
appearance of text already in it.



set the textfont of char 1 to -1 of fld X to to Lucida Grande
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Re: Saving Prefs on Windows

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Sivakatirswami skrev:

I'm finding I really need to have my apps take greater control over  
installation locations, upgrades, prefs etc. otherwise support time  
goes way up for naive users... i.e. basic operations like the above  
just needs to happen automatically...


for OSX, it is clear where to save supporting  files...

/Applications/myRevApp/someApp.rev
/Library/Application Support/myRevApp/supportFiles/

but I'm not familiar with Windows. In one app I am just saving some  
Prefs for my app in the user's Documents/myRevAppPrefs/  folder...  
using the special path.. some Windows users are not super happy about  
this... as it is not normal Windows behavior.


Is it ok to simply make a new folder in the Windows System folder and  
put your prefs and any lo-level support files there? These being  files 
the users never needs to see or edit.




Very often lots of directories on Windows are blocked for access. If you use 
specialfolderPath(26) this directory is usually open for storing files.


This directory is C:/Documents and Settings/.../Application Data

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Alias on MacOS 10.3.9

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello,
I'm trying to create an alias to a folder. On Windows 'file' works, although 
the shortcut is to a folder and the documentation says that you can only 
create a shortcut to a file not a folder. Does this apply ontly to Mac since 
nothing happens on Mac with the script below:


  put specialfolderPath(pref)  /IVANAmp/ into framp
  put there is a folder framp --renders 'true'
  put specialfolderPath(desktop)  /IVANAmp/ into tilmp
  create alias (tilmp) to file framp

Any suggestions?
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Re: Is there a better way of scanning this list ?

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello Mark,
The stack came down nicely on Windows XP as well. A few comments though.

The fonts you have chosen put a strain on my eyes (being more than 
sixtyish), so I immediately changed the fld Message text to Verdana, 
plain, 12 and the field thread to Verdana, plain, 11. I also would 
like to increase the height of fld Message text in order to avoid too 
much scrolling.


By the way the button Messages created does not seem to work properly. 
When past year or some of the other options are selected the messages 
are not restricted to that period.


Otherwise this is a very useful stack for us, thanks a lot to you.
Signe Marie Sanne

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Re: listField - dontWrap

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Signe Marie Sanne skrev:


Hello,
I have a number of phrases, each delimited by return in a scrolling 
field. When the user clicks anyone of these, the line should be 
highlighted in some way.


The problem is that some of the phrases are longer than the field width, 
if I use list field behaviour the longest phrases are just cut off. I 
searched the archives and found two scripts for formatFld, but none of 
them worked for me.


I then tried to calculate the distance from the top of the field and 
placed a gray graphic underneath, but this solution will not work when 
the user scrolls the field. Grateful for suggestions.


I answer myself: I found the solution. It's funny, that's the rewarding 
thing about scripting, you have a problem, you try and retry, and when you 
finally find the solution you really feel fine!


So here it goes:
You have two identical fields (F1 and F2), both are ordinary scrolling 
fields with dontwrap set to false and listbehavior set to false.


- In field F1 you display the phrases. Copy the text of fld F1 to fld F2.
- set the layer of the copied field lower than the layer of field F1 (that 
is, you put fld F2 under fld F1)
- set the textcolor of char 1 to -1 of fld F2 to white - which is the colour 
of the background (in this way the text is invisible)

- move fld F2 a little to the left (0,5 cm or so)
- group the two fields. In the group script put:
   on scrollbardrag
  set the scroll of fld F2 to the scroll of fld F1
   end scrollbardrag

- in the script of fld F1 you put:
put word 2 of the clickLine into snr
   	set textcolor of char 1 to -1 of fld F2 to white (deletes the previous 
bullet)
  	put  into char 1 of line snr of fld F2 (this is the bullet 
equivalent, it is not displayed correctly in this email)

set textcolor of char 1 of line snr of fld F2 to 255,102,102

I'll upload a stack to show this within a few hours.
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Re: listField - dontWrap

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I'll upload a stack to show this within a few hours.
Signe Marie


It's done. The name is BulletMarkLine. You'll find it either under 
Programming, or in my userspace sms.

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listField - dontWrap

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello,
I have a number of phrases, each delimited by return in a scrolling field. 
When the user clicks anyone of these, the line should be highlighted in some 
way.


The problem is that some of the phrases are longer than the field width, if 
I use list field behaviour the longest phrases are just cut off. I searched 
the archives and found two scripts for formatFld, but none of them worked 
for me.


I then tried to calculate the distance from the top of the field and placed 
a gray graphic underneath, but this solution will not work when the user 
scrolls the field. Grateful for suggestions.

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Re: listField - dontWrap

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Martin Baxter skrev:


Hello,
I have a number of phrases, each delimited by return in a scrolling field.
When the user clicks anyone of these, the line should be highlighted in some
way.

The problem is that some of the phrases are longer than the field width, if
I use list field behaviour the longest phrases are just cut off. I searched
the archives and found two scripts for formatFld, but none of them worked
for me.

I then tried to calculate the distance from the top of the field and placed
a gray graphic underneath, but this solution will not work when the user
scrolls the field. Grateful for suggestions.
--
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Hi,

There may be a prettier way to do this but you can have a scrolling field
with:
lock text true, dontwrap false, listbehaviour and autohilite off, and give
it a script like:

on mouseup
  put word 2 of the clickline into lnum
  put the number of lines in me into ltot
  set the backgroundcolor of line 1 to ltot of me to empty
  set the backgroundcolor of line lnum of me to the hilitecolor
end mouseup

# Which puts a coloured background behind the text of the clicked line. And
is at least close to what I think you want.

Martin Baxter


Thanks to both Mark and Martin for possible solutions to my problem. I must 
admit that the possibility of setting the backgroundcolor of lines in a 
field was new to me!


However, I had not explained enough about the field. It serves to show the 
phrases with all occurrences of one word. I have already coloured this one 
word and was looking for a way to focus the line the user clicks. Martin's 
solution would have been ideal to me but for one reason: The letter v is 
displayed as superscript and the background colour of all the v's on the 
clicked line is as well treated as superscript, ie. lifted a few millimeters 
above the line. So what I am looking for is either how to put a graphic 
underneath the line, or a bullet to the left of the field to mark the line, 
the way it is done in the script editor window.


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Record/play wave files without QT

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello, I have just uploaded a small stack to RevOnLine. The name: 
RecPlayWavMCI.rev. You can find it under sms, or category: Programming. It 
has been ready for some time but I was not able to upload it. In order to 
make other people avoid the same mistake, I cite from Jacqueline's reply to me:


If you cloned a previously-uploaded stack in order to make your new one, it
will contain the same fingerprint and RevOnline will think it is the old
stack.

So just be sure that you do not clone the stacks you want to upload.
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Database saved as custom property

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello,
Since someone a week ago said he had not ventured into custom properties, I 
have uploaded a very simple stack which shows how you make a small archive 
stack and save it as a custom property, all with just one card. On RevOnLine 
you will find it under my user name sms, or under Categories 
--Programming. Its name is CustPropDatabase.

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Re: Database saved as custom property

[Signe Marie Sanne]

John Ridge skrev:


on 6/6/05 1:11 pm,  Signe Marie Sanne wrote :

Hello,
Since someone a week ago said he had not ventured into custom properties, I
have uploaded a very simple stack which shows how you make a small archive
stack and save it as a custom property, all with just one card. On RevOnLine
you will find it under my user name sms, or under Categories
--Programming. Its name is CustPropDatabase.

Marvellous! Now it is not so frightening... I need to think hard about this
solution - are there any serious size limitations? If it could replace 1000
cards, some containing c. 100k text, it would be FAST...


Glad you liked it.
It is actually a very useful way of handling data. Since I discovered it, I 
have gradually replaced my many data cards in each stack with only one 
single data card with custom properties.


I do not know about size limitations, others have to answer that. In my 
project for the Indian dialect Boruca, I use 143 various custom properties 
totalling 1700 lines of data. This is for teaching the dialect itself 
(vocabulary training, gapfilling and translation exercises and other types 
of exercises/games + grammatical analysis of the corpus + vocabulario in 
which a certain word can be seen in all the contexts in which it occurs).

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Re: Stack file size

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Lars Brehmer skrev:
This is probably only of interest if you are a Rev user without much  
coding expertise like myself and are working with stacks and  
standalones that contain thousands of actual Rev cards, instead of  
using a data base. 


Hello Lars
A suggestion from another language program developer: I would suggest that 
you get rid of the thousands of cards. When I started with HyperCard I used 
lots of cards. Now I just make one editing card for each model of 
exercise,then there is no need to have extra cards containing the data. All 
the relevant data is then put into a custom property either of the card 
itself or of the stack, or elsewhere. So no need for a database.


Each time I need to change anything I go to the same editing card, fetches 
all the relevant data from the custom property and put them into the various 
fields, do my changes and put it back into the custom property.


One simple example to make it clearer: For a gapfilling exercise you need 
only the card on which the student does the exercise + an editing card for 
the same exercise. Let's say you have 10 exercises with verbs. The relevant 
data may be like this:

1. w3 r2 The boy fetches water.
2. w2 r8 Mary wants to study English.
etc.

I usually put all the relevant data into the same phrase. The second word 
(w3) indicates the word to be filled in, the third word (r2) is a reference 
to a rule etc. In this way I use just one field on the editing card (for 
instance called datafelt.


On the exercise card the word no. 3 will be replaced with ... or --- or  
or similar in the first phrase, word no. 2 in the second phrase. The same 
words are the key which the program matches with the student's answer.


The set of sentences is then saved into a custom property:

 put datafelt into f
 put gr into kust -- for the grammar exercises
put Ver after kust -- to indicate a verb exercise
put 3a after kust  -- to indicate which number and that there may be a 3b, 
3c --as well

set the kust of this cd to the htmlText of fld f

Then each time you need to make changes, you go to the editing cd,fetch the 
data and put it into fld kustfelt:


 ask Which exercise? with grVer --You have to add the number
  if it is empty or the result is cancel then exit mouseUp
  put it into kust
  set the htmlText of fld kustfelt to the kust of this cd

htmlText is used in order to maintain the various diacritics across platforms.

If you need further help, don't hesitate to mail me offlist.

Signe Marie

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Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Frank D. Engel, Jr. skrev:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the 
standalone application message for just one specific stack.

* I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does.
* I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop.  Nope.
* I tried saving to my home directory.  Still not working.
* I tried other stacks, they worked fine.
* I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good.
* I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard 
drive.  Same problem.

Mac OS X 10.3.9
Any clues?
I had the same problem earlier on when I had opened a MetaCard stack with 
resources (answer/ask stacks etc)included. I had to go back to MetaCard, 
remove the resources before being able to save the stack as a rev stack.
Could this be the cause?
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Re: playing video on PCs

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Signe Marie Sanne skrev:
sims skrev:
I need to play video on both OS X and Windows machines which will
for the most part be business computers - corporate office machines.
The Mac part I can figure out and will be able to use QuickTime.
Some PC machines will not have QuickTime installed and will not want
to install QT. I need some advice on what format/codec to use for
these non-QT machines.

Hello Sims
Just mail me off the list if you would like to get a small stack showing 
how to play mpeg files with mciSendString. Any others are also welcome 
to do the same. The stack is not fully overhauled to go RevOnLine, but 
it contains the necessary scripts to get started.
I just uploaded the stack mciMpegVideo to RevOnLine. It can be found 
either in User spaces under sms, or under Programming. If anyone finds out 
how to avoid flickering in closeVideo, I would be grateful to get the scripts.

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Re: playing video on PCs

[Signe Marie Sanne]

sims skrev:
I need to play video on both OS X and Windows machines which will
for the most part be business computers - corporate office machines.
The Mac part I can figure out and will be able to use QuickTime.
Some PC machines will not have QuickTime installed and will not want
to install QT. I need some advice on what format/codec to use for
these non-QT machines.
Hello Sims
Just mail me off the list if you would like to get a small stack showing how 
to play mpeg files with mciSendString. Any others are also welcome to do the 
same. The stack is not fully overhauled to go RevOnLine, but it contains the 
necessary scripts to get started.

Best regards
Signe Marie
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OT: Key to RevOnLine

[Signe Marie Sanne]

When in RevOnLine I sent my email address in order to get the key.
The confirmation message said it would be effectuated within 24 hours,
but after 2 weeks still no response. I even sent it to Support. Hope someone
in Scotland reads this. Thanks in advance.
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Re: user-movable fields?

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Jeanne A. E. DeVoto skrev:
At 2:11 PM -0400 4/5/05, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Is the control key behavior just in the IDE or will it work in a 
standalone? Don't we need to code the control behavior for a standalone?

No: Control-clicking (or right-clicking) an unlocked field sends 
mouseDown, mouseUp, etc. instead of opening the field for editing. This 
is built-in behavior of fields. (There's a note in the docs for 
mouseDown and mouseUp.)
Surprise surprise... when you select the text in an unlocked field and drag 
it to another unlocked field, you move the text to this new field. When 
control-clicking and dragging you put a copy of the text into the new field. 
  (This is on Windows.) There are always new things to learn!

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Re: Can't open file

[Signe Marie Sanne]

snip
 So now that I have that working, I want to make the file invisible.  Any
 ideas why this standard snippet is failing:

 replace / with \ in tPath -- this contains what it had before
 put attrib quote  tPath  quote  -h into tCommand
 set the hideConsoleWindows to true
 put shell (tCommand) into theError

 I get no error, but the file remains visible. The command doesn't work
 from the DOS prompt either.
I tried replacing -h with +h as Dar suggested, but this just results in a 
dimmed icon, the file can still be opened. Other suggestions? And how do we 
make it visible again?

Regards
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Re: Can't open file

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Ken Ray skrev:
On 4/6/05 2:02 AM, Signe Marie Sanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
So now that I have that working, I want to make the file invisible.  Any
ideas why this standard snippet is failing:
   replace / with \ in tPath -- this contains what it had before
   put attrib quote  tPath  quote  -h into tCommand
   set the hideConsoleWindows to true
   put shell (tCommand) into theError
I get no error, but the file remains visible. The command doesn't work
from the DOS prompt either.
I tried replacing -h with +h as Dar suggested, but this just results in a
dimmed icon, the file can still be opened. Other suggestions? And how do we
make it visible again?

Actually it *is* invisible, but you have your Windows preference set to show
invisible files (they are shown as dimmed). To set it visible again, use -h.
Basically +h means add 'hidden' attribute and -h means remove 'hidden'
attribute.
Thanks for the clarification. In Control Panel -- Folder Options -- View 
--Hidden files and folders, the option Show hidden files and folders was 
actually checked.

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Re: using MCISendString to record

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I am still waiting to get the key to be able to upload a small stack to 
RevOnLine. While waiting I have extracted all the scripts. Many of them have 
been adapted from a stack by Tom McCarthy, St. Catalina Girls School, 
Matsuyama, Japan:

on react
  move target rel 1,1
  wait 10 ticks
  move target rel -1,-1
end react
---Disables QT:
on mouseUp
  react
  set dontUseQT to true
  get the dontUseQT
  if true then answer QT is not in use
  else answer QT is still in use
end mouseUp
Check if mciSendString is installed:
on sjekkeMCI
  react
  put This computer probably lacks recording options. into line 1 of temp
  put Check the presence of Windows Multimedia Tools. into line 2 of temp
  put This can be done by searching for the file 'mciwave.drv'. into line 
3 of temp
  put More info about 'mciSendString':  into line 5 of temp
  put 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/multimed/htm/_win32_mcisendstring.asp; 
into line 7 of temp
  put temp into svar
  put specialfolderpath(system) into t
  put /system/mciwave.drv after t
  if there is not file t then answer svar
  else
--Lists all devices:
put mciSendString(sysinfo all quantity) into xMax
#put empty into fld deviceNames
put empty into tDeviceNames
repeat with x = 1 to xMax
  put sysinfo all name  x into commandString
  # put mciSendString(commandString)  return after fld deviceNames
  put mciSendString(commandString)  return after tDeviceNames
end repeat
#answer tDeviceNames
if WaveAudio is not in tDeviceNames then answer svar
else  answer Windows Multimedia Tools is available.
  end if
end sjekkeMCI

Finds the folder in which you store the audiofile
and gives it a name
on mouseUp
  global tFile  --short name of the file, for instance mySound.wav
  global tLongPath --long name of file:C:/.../.../SoundFolder/mySound.wav
  answer folder Save into which folder:
  if it is empty or the result is Cancel then exit mouseUp
  put it into tFolder
  ask Save as wave file: with .wav
  if it is empty or the result is Cancel then exit mouseUp
  put it into tFile
  put tFolder  /  tFile into tLongPath
  answer tLongPath
end mouseUp
function myMCI tstring
  put mciSendString(tstring) into returnValue
  get the result
  if the result is not empty then
return error
  else
return returnValue
  end if
end myMCI
-Records the sound:
on RecordAudio
  --Startvar:
  global tFile
  react
  put 1500 into max_time
  get mcirecord(tFile, max_time)
end RecordAudio
function mcirecord tFile, max_time
  get mymci(close myaudio)
  put open new type waveaudio alias myaudio into tstring
  get myMCI(tstring)
  if it is error then
return error -- opening part
exit mcirecord
  end if
  --TIMEFORMAT
  get mymci(set myaudio time format milliseconds)
  if mymci(record myaudio) is not empty then
get mymci(close all)
return error -- record part
exit mcirecord
  end if
end mcirecord
-- Stops and saves the audio file to disk
on stopRecording
  --Viderevar:
  global tLongPath
  react
  get mymci(stop)
  put save myaudio   quote  tLongPath  quote into x
  get mymci(x)
  return it
end stopRecording
--Plays the audio file with mciSendString
on listen
  global tFile, tLongPath
  react
  if there is a file tLongPath then get playmysound(tFile)
end listen
function playmysound tFile
  get myMCI(close myaudio)
  --OPEN
  put open quote tLongPath  quote type waveaudio alias myaudio 
into tstring
  get myMCI(tstring)
  --GET LENGTH
  put myMCI(status myaudio length) into ttime
  if ttime is error or ttime is not a number then
put 0 into ttime
return ttime
  end if
  --PLAY
  if myMCI(play myaudio from 0) is error then
return 0
  end if
  return ttime
  put ttime
end playmysound

- Stops playing the audio file:
on stopPlaying
  react
  get myMCI(close myaudio)
end stopPlaying
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Re: using MCISendString to record

[Signe Marie Sanne]

So, I was hoping someone would care to explain how to use MCISendString for
doing the following record sound steps:
1) start recording
2) stop the recording
3) name the file that contains that recording
Thank you.
Hello Nicolas
I'm just back from Easter holidays. Will post a recipe within the next days.
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listbehavior and imagesource

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello,
using both Windows XP and Mac OSX, both Revolution and MetaCard:
in a field with listbehavior set to true and imagesource of last char set -
the script: put cr  sometext after fld 1 -- results in either a completely 
blurred first line or the application quits. Is this a known bug?

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Time Counter

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello, I know there must be several counters around. Could someone please 
provide me with scripts or stacks. It should display the elapsed time from 
start in a format: 01:15 (minutes:seconds),changing each second.
Regards
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Re: Time Counter

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Malte Brill skrev:
Hi Signe,
you might try this script (which can be adapted to split out hours too):
on mouseUp
  set the istimer of me to 0
  if the flag of me is empty then set the flag of me to -1
  set the flag of me to the flag of me*-1
  if the flag of me=1 then startMyTimer
end mouseUp
on startMyTimer
  set the isTimer of me to the isTimer of me+1
  put the isTimer of me div 60 into myMinutes
  if myMinutes10 then put 0myMinutes into myMinutes
  put the isTimer of me mod 60 into mySeconds
  if mySeconds10 then put 0mySeconds into mySeconds
  put myminutes:myseconds
  if the flag of me=1 then send startMyTimer to me in 1 second
end startMyTimer
Hello Malte
Thanks for the script, but there must be something missing. It does not show 
the time elapsed. Only when I click the button does it change. What is missing?
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Re: Time Counter

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Malte Brill skrev:
I found it, Malte. I had placed the handler on the card, whereas the mouseUp 
was in
a button script.
I then moved the handler into the button script, and then it's OK. Thanks 
for your
comments anyhow.
Signe Marie

on mouseUp
   --we need to call the startMyTimer handler fom somewhere
   --this could also be on openCard or openStack
   set the istimer of me to 0
   --reset the timer
   if the flag of me is empty then set the flag of me to -1
   --initialize a flag custom property
   --Using this cProp we can check if the timer is already running...
   set the flag of me to the flag of me*-1
   --change the flag if you click
   --possible values are -1 and 1
  --the first time you click it will set the cProp to 1
   if the flag of me=1 then startMyTimer
  --if the cProp is 1 then call the timer the first time
end mouseUp
on startMyTimer
   set the isTimer of me to the isTimer of me+1
   --increase the value of the timer. It will only count
   put the isTimer of me div 60 into myMinutes
   --calculate the number of whole minutes
   if myMinutes10 then put 0myMinutes into myMinutes
   --if it is smaller than 10 then add an additional zero before it
   put the isTimer of me mod 60 into mySeconds
  --what´s left ofer when dividing by 60 is the seconds
   if mySeconds10 then put 0mySeconds into mySeconds
  --add additional zero if necessary
   put myminutes:myseconds
  --put minutes:seconds into msg
   if the flag of me=1 then send startMyTimer to me in 1 second
  --if the flag cProp of the calling object is 1 then call the 
startMyTimer handler again
  --so if you click the button holding the script again the flag will be 
set to -1
  --and the handler wont be called anymore
end startMyTimer

Hope this helps.
Malte
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Re: Passing information between cards

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Karen skrev:
Hi,
I'm trying to build my first little application in Revolution on Mac OS X.
It uses styled text, and I have the font type/size/colour/style available in
drop-down menus.  However, I'd quite like to have a separate window that
copied the typical Apple Cocoa font setting dialog, which has a font and
size list, a size field and a preview of the result.  I have created a
separate card within my application that does this, but I'm struggling with
how to take the font choices from this card and apply them back to the main
card.
The main card has the field edtText which is where the styled text is.  On
the secondary card, I set gFontName and gFontSize to hold the font name and
size, as determined by the users choice from the various fields.  What I
have tried is:
set textFont of field edtText of card id 1002 of stack Text Change to
tFontName
set textSize of field edtText of card id 1002 of stack Text Change to
tFontSize
(I'd like to just do this with the selectedChunk, but I'm taking it a step
at a time!).  This doesn't have any effect on the text in the field.  I'm
guessing that my syntax is wrong, but I wondered if anyone was able to help?
Try: set textFont of char 1 to -1 of fld...  (char -1 = last char)
set textSize of char 1 to -1 of fld...
set textStyle of char 1 to -1 of fld...
For these 3 text attributes you can set the attributes for chunks, whereas 
for textHeight you just set it for the whole field.

Hope this helps
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Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Frank Leahy skrev:
I seem to be unable to type foreign characters into any RunRev (2.2) 
field, so it looks like I'll have to handle it myself.

Here's what I want to do:
When I type an ümlaut in Apple Mail, i.e. option-u followed by u, 
first it shows me that I'm in umlaut mode by giving showing floating 
dots above the (empty) character, and hiliting those dots with a yellow 
hiliter.  Then, when I type u or o or any other character that is 
umlaut-able, it hides the yellow hiliting and inserts the correct 
character.

This is a nice interface for knowing that you're in foreign character 
typing mode.  Has anyone written a similar routine for RunRev?  I'm 
about to write one, but if someone has some working code already and 
wanted to share it, I'd be most appreciative.
If you just want to type umlaut's and accents in a field, remember that you 
have to press the umlaut/accent key first (without anything appearing on the 
screen). Then you press the letter, and both appears at the same time.
Hope this was what you were looking for.
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Re: MP3 without QuickTime on Windows

[Signe Marie Sanne]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:
All you need is (with a default mp3 player installed) to 

get shell(start  mymp3filepath)
Why try harder? ;))
It's just a question of having a default play or Open command 
associated with a player...
Hello Xavier
Should 'mymp3filepath' include 'file' or 'url'?
Do we need a player object in the stack? On my WindowsXP (where I have both 
Windows Media Player and QuickTime installed) I tried without any success:

set itemDel to /
put item 1 to -2 of the effective filename of this stack into tFolder
put tFolder  /M0NKP9EA.MID into mymp3filepath
get shell (start  mymp3filepath)
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Re: MP3 without QuickTime on Windows

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Merci beaucoup, Xavier and Vielen Danke to Claus!
set itemDel to /
put item 1 to -2 of the effective filename of this stack into tFolder
put tFolder  /M0NKP9EA.MID into mymp3filepath

   replace / with \ in mymp3filepath
   ##it's windoze ;-)
get shell (start  mymp3filepath)

With the change of / to \ it still did not work, I got the error: Can't 
find C:\Documents. I then discovered that when moving the folder from the 
desktop to another location on C: it would work. Apparently the program did 
not tackle the spaces in C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop...

And the player which opened it, was not WMP, but WinAmp.
Signe Marie
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Re: SpecialFolderPath

[Signe Marie Sanne]

can some1 help me with a small stack that will place an icon  on the 
desk top to run the program from the current location.

Thank you


 Can some1 give a working stack example for desktop, Start menu,  
Programs menu?

I want this fir PC, but also like it for Mac  Linux.
Hello
I'm not quite sure if you know how to make a shortcut icon(on PC)...if that 
may solve your problem:

on makeShortcut
  global gLongNameFile
  put specialFolderPath(desktop) /DysEngMP.lnk into snarvei
--Here the word DysEngMP should be replaced
--with the short name of the application. The rest .lnk remains as it is.
  create alias(snarvei) to file gLongNameFile
end makeShortcut
Strangely enough, this same wording including file will as well make a 
shortcut to a folder!

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Re: CaptureJPG

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Chipp Walters skrev:
Hi Signe,
Email me offlist and I'll see about getting you a copy of a later 
version for MacOSX.

Hello again,
I just discovered Grab on MacOSX, so there is no longer need for your 
CaptureJPG on that platform. Thanks all the same.
Signe Marie

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CaptureJPG

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello
I regularly use a very handy small file from Altuit called CaptureJPG on 
Windows. I used to use it on Mac as well, but  I seem to have lost it. I 
have searched Chipp's pages but without success. I need it for Mac OSX. 
Thanks in advance.

Signe Marie Sanne
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Re: Umlaut on a consonant letter

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Dar Scott skrev:
On Dec 22, 2004, at 1:07 PM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote:
I have a stack I use to figure out Unicode numbers for various symbols -
the one thing I found was that any use of Unicode in a field really
requires that the whole field be in Unicode. Otherwise, it gets
confused. Have others found this?

I was just about to send a comment on this.
I noticed that if textFont of the field is set to Lucida 
Grande,Japanese, the unicode method I tried works.

It seems that otherwise, Revolution tries to separate the n from the 
combining character and put it outside of unicode.

It is weird using Japanese as the language for the font.
This now works:
on mouseUp
  set useUnicode to true
  set the textFont of field field to Lucida Grande,Japanese
  set the unicodeText of field field to numToChar(110)  numToChar(776)
  put the htmlText of field field
end mouseUp
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Lots of thanks to Richard, Dar, Jonathan and Frank. I now have a field 
exposing text with accented letters and the umlaut at the same time.

Merry Christmas to all the very helpful Revolutionies!
Best from Norway
Signe Marie Sanne
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Umlaut on a consonant letter

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello,
I'm going to develop a language learning course in the Indian dialect Boruca 
(used in Costa Rica). In their written language they use an umlaut on top of 
the letter n. Any clues to how to generate this letter either in Word or in 
Revolution?

Regards
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RevOnLine

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello again,
David Squance just made me aware of the fact that I had forgotten to 
mention my user name: sms (which is my initials), under which you'll find 
the two small stacks. Another way to access them is Browse by category... 
and you'll find them under Programming and Utilities. Actually, I did not 
understand the difference between these two and have managed to put one 
under each. (SaveStackInStack is under Programming.)

Regards
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Re: Add fields from stack in data directory to standalone

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At 21:41 05.12.2004 +, you wrote:
At 21:05 05/12/2004, you wrote:
Hi  Klaus

I suggest the following:
Prepare your complete stack/database baddresstemplate.rev, test it and 
save it...

Then store it in a customproperty of your standalone!
...
answer file Where is Bob?
##select your baddresstemplate.rev stack here...
set the my_template_database of stack xyz to url(binfile:  it)
## or ...of this stack...
...
_
Ohh I have been away. I'm totally lost regarding custom properties. I'll 
get something done and get back to you all in a week.

I need to get Dan's book out and have a gander.
My recent uploading to RevOnLine (SaveStackInStack) shows how to save a 
stack in various ways as a custom property. (See under Username: sms).

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RevOnLine

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello,
I have uploaded two stacks: PlayWavMCI and SaveStackInStack. The first one 
shows how to play a wav-file without QuickTime on Windows. The second shows 
how to save a stack in another as a custom property as well as a custom 
property in a property set. Then it shows how the data from the custom 
property is retrieved and recreates the stack with scripts available to the 
current stack. This is useful for reusable code (recently discussed on this 
list).

Please feel free to comment and suggest changes.
Regards
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Re: audio on windows not playing

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At 13:15 25.11.2004 -0500, you wrote:
Claudi,
as far as i have been able to tell you are out of luck with playing 
external wav files w/o Quicktime on the PC. I tried 9 ways to tuesday to 
do this a few months back. Documentation in Metacard and Rev both allude 
to being able to do this w/o quicktime, but it just doesnt.
snip...
It is indeed possible to play external wav files w/o Quicktime on the PC by 
making use of mciSendString, which requires Windows Multimedia Tools 
(usually installed on all PCs). Just write me offlist and then I can send 
you a small stack with the scripts.

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Re: Shortening a line.

[Signe Marie Sanne]

I have also struggled with this one. My way to do it:
put the width of grc 1 - then add or subtract from the result and set the 
width again.

By the way I miss the line option (I know Klaus' tools got it, but it would 
be nice to have it directly both in Revolution and MetaCard.)

Regards
Signe Marie Sanne
At 22:00 19.10.2004 +0200, you wrote:
Second query:
Shortening a line: Drawing a nice vertical line with the line tool is 
straightforward. But to adjust the line to the right length is impossible. 
The moment the mouse clicks on the handle, the line goes off vertical, and 
it cannot be brought back to vertical. This seems counterintuitive and 
counterproductive. The only way I can adjust this line length while 
keeping it vertical, is to go into the object inspector, and to use the 
height and width adjustors.

Am I missing something?
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Re: Are you using Rev/DC in Education?

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At 14:19 17.10.2004 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,
I am currently looking into the use of Revolution and Dreamcard in 
education. If you are currently using either product in the classroom I'd 
like to hear from you.
Being a former senior lecturer in Italian, I now develop educational 
software for language studies for undergraduate students in 6 different 
languages, covering topics like grammar, translation, introduction to 
poetic devices and 'explication de textes', phonetics, interactive video, 
various tests etc. Started out with scripting in SuperCard in 1990, then 
when the Mac version of MetaCard arrived, I switched to it. I develop for 
two platforms: Windows and Mac, still use the MetaCard IDE. All the 
programs can be downloaded by a 'portal stack' directly to the student's 
home computer.

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Re: Cross Platform Font Question ?

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At 22:27 04.10.2004 +0100, you wrote:
I have a stack that was put together on the mac. In the text fields
Helvetica 14 has been used, and on the mac under OS X looks fine... but when
it is run under windows Helvetica 14 looks awfully emaciated...
Anyone have any ideas on what fonts are good for using in stacks that are to
be used on more than the one platform ?
Verdana is my favourite.
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Re: QUESTION: How to get a remote directory file listing from a web site

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Try with www. before thePath

When I run this from the message box
put 
(crosbystillsnash.com/content/TOURS/CSN2K4/_galleries/20040913_Pechanga/large/) 
into thePath
put user:password into userpass
put ftp://;  userpass  @  thePath into temp
put  URL  temp
put the result into tr
if tr is not empty
then
   put RESULT  tr
end if

--- I get this error -
RESULT error  550 
/content/TOURS/CSN2K4/_galleries/20040913_Pechanga/large: No such file or 
directory

the URL is good; copied and pasted from a browser (this is my own site)

Am I specifying the URL incorrectly? Is there a better way ? I just need a 
simple listing.

When I use it with URL http, I get html of course. Is the only way to get 
an HTTP directory is by parsing the below?


!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN
Index of /content/TOURS/CSN2K4/_galleries/20040913_Pechanga/large

NameLast
modified   Size  Description
--

  Parent
Directory19-Sep-2004 23:18  -
  PICT4661.htmPICT4661.jpg19-Sep-2004 23:1646k
  PICT4663.htmPICT4663.jpg19-Sep-2004 23:1644k
  PICT4664.htmPICT4664.jpg19-Sep-2004 23:1652k
  PICT4666.htmPICT4666.jpg19-Sep-2004 23:1650k
  PICT4668.htmPICT4668.jpg19-Sep-2004 23:1657k
  PICT4674.htmPICT4674.jpg19-Sep-2004 23:1649k
  PICT4677.htmPICT4677.jpg19-Sep-2004 23:1658k
--
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Re: Error message - Revolution 2.5

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 It sounds like you have a copy of the answer dialog as a substack of
 your main stack. (This often happens if you created the stack in MC
 and imported some resources.) You'll need to delete the copy that is
 embedded in the stack.


 Yes, thank you, this was actually the case. In MetaCard I go to Stack
 Properties -- Components and then delete a resource, but is it possible
 to do it in Revolution as well?

I don't think there is an IDE-native way to do it. If you still have MC it 
is easiest to just remove it there. In Revolution, you can do it from the 
message box:

delete stack answer dialog of stack myMainstack
Be sure to use the long stack reference, or you might accidentally remove 
the IDE's answer dialog instead.
Thank you Jacqueline. As you said, you know everything (except how to enjoy 
a meal of lutefisk).
Regards
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Re: Error message - Revolution 2.5

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At 12:31 22.09.2004 -0500, you wrote:
On 9/22/04 3:34 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote:
Hello,
when I start Revolution 2.5 I get the message below (this has been the 
case both earlier on and after I updated today - both on Windows XP and 
Mac 10.3.5):
A stack Answer Dialog in file /Applications/Revolution 2.5/license.rev is 
already in memory. The Revolution UI does not distinguish stacks which 
have identical names, so editing these stack files while both are in 
memory could result in data loss.
How can I get rid of this message?
It sounds like you have a copy of the answer dialog as a substack of your 
main stack. (This often happens if you created the stack in MC and 
imported some resources.) You'll need to delete the copy that is embedded 
in the stack.
Yes, thank you, this was actually the case. In MetaCard I go to Stack 
Properties -- Components and then delete a resource, but is it possible to 
do it in Revolution as well?

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Error message - Revolution 2.5

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello,
when I start Revolution 2.5 I get the message below (this has been the case 
both earlier on and after I updated today - both on Windows XP and Mac 10.3.5):

A stack Answer Dialog in file /Applications/Revolution 2.5/license.rev is 
already in memory. The Revolution UI does not distinguish stacks which have 
identical names, so editing these stack files while both are in memory 
could result in data loss.

How can I get rid of this message?
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Re: Waaaaaaaay OT: Lutefisk

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At 19:40 20.09.2004 -0500, you wrote:
after reading jacque's response, i had to look up lutefisk.  my stomach 
started cramping just thinking about it...
As a Norwegian I have to object to this. My husband prepares lutefisk a few 
times during autumn. With potatoes, bacon, peas and particularly beer and 
aquavita it always becomes a delicious meal. Although I must agree that in 
my view the fish in itself is not very exciting. However, even my daughter 
used to like it as a child (which does not happen very often). Lutefisk is 
just part of our cooking traditions which we still hang on to.

Best regards from a lutefisk eater
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Re: Audio w/o Quicktime on PCs

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At 21:47 08.09.2004 -0400, you wrote:
I have been having some problems trying to play audio files (wav files)
in a player w/o quicktime on windows. the players in mc, rev 2.1 or 2.5
will play wav files fine with quicktime on windows, but if i set
dontuseqt to true on preopenstack or dont have quicktime installed on the
machine, the audio files will not play. documentation says that audio
files and video files (to some extent) should play w/o quicktime on
windows. This happens on XP, 2000, and 98.
the player is visible with no controller and buffered (although those
dont matter).
anyone have any ideas of why this is not functioning the way the
documentation says? Has anyone played audio files on windows w/o
quicktime using a player (ie not an audioclip).
Hello,
using mciSendString will take care of yours needs. The scripts below will 
give you some ideas.

function myMCI tstring
  put mciSendString(tstring) into returnValue
  get the result
  if the result is not empty then
return error
  else
return returnValue
  end if
end myMCI
function playmysound gShortname
  --Viderevar:
  global gLongName --the complete name and path
  --Startvar:
  global ttime
  get myMCI(close myaudio)
  --OPEN
  put open quote gLongName  quote type waveaudio alias myaudio 
into tstring
  get myMCI(tstring)
  --GET LENGTH
  put myMCI(status myaudio length) into ttime
   if ttime is error or ttime is not a number then
put 0 into ttime
return ttime
  end if
  --PLAY
  if myMCI(play myaudio from 0) is error then
return 0
  end if
  return ttime

end playmysound
on mouseUp
  global gLongName
  put C:/PROGRA~2/MetaCard/Program/FRAAND~2/t2_01m.wav into gLongName
  put t2_01m.wav into gShortname
  if there is a file gLongName then get playMySound (gShortname)
end mouseUp
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Re: Mac to Windows -- maybe text encoding

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At 23:08 25.08.2004 -0600, you wrote:
I have a problem that I think is related to text encoding, and I'm looking
for suggestions.
Here is the issue:
(A) I wrote a HyperCard stack years ago to teach the International Phonetic
Alphabet to students using games.
(B) I used the excellent PalPhon font to display the IPA characters.
(C) This year I decided to port the stack to Mac OS X, and hopefully
Windows, using RunRev.
(D) I switched to a newer font, IPAPhon, built by the original author of
PalPhon. It comes in both Mac and Windows TrueType versions; since OS X can
use either format, I used the windows TTFs for maximum compatibility).
(E) I do all my work on a Mac running OS X, but I have access to RunRev for
Windows and a decent Windows 2000 PC.
On my Windows XP there is no trace of IPAPhon, so I guess it is not part of 
the preinstalled fonts. If your students work in a Windows lab, you have to 
install the font on the computers.

I have chosen this strategy: When students have to work with phonetical 
symbols at home computers, I have always avoided to let them have to 
install any fonts. Instead I have done the development on the platform with 
the phonetical font, in this case on Mac. Then - for each symbol I have 
used Import -- Snapshot to create a small image of it. Voilà, no more need 
for having phonetical fonts present on either platform.

Hope this may give you some ideas to go on with.
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RE: Create alias from CDROM to desktop?

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At 12:39 06.05.2004 -0500, you wrote:
  I've got a CD-ROM that has a Revolution app running on it,
 and I want
  that Revolution app to create an alias, pointint to itself to the
  user's desktop. I know that I can use the defaultFolder to find the
  path to the app, and I know I can use the
 specialFolderPath to find
  the path to the desktop.  Can anyone tell me how I could pass these
  parameters to Applescript to perform the alias creation?
 Will I run
  into issues with the difference in how Applescript vs. Rev
 handles the
  /Volumes/ string, or how the CD-ROM path is formed?

 Is there a reason you can't use the create alias command in Rev?
Yes, unfortunately there's a bug in Bugzilla (#1059) about the inability to
make aliases to apps in OS X because they are folders, and 'create alias'
only works with files.
I do not know about OS X, but on Windows it works (sorry for the text size, 
copied from MC):

  put specialfolderpath(desktop)  into skrbord
  set itemdel to /
  if the platform = win32 then put item 1 of skrbord into hd
  --Creates a folder /DysEngMP/ on C :

  put hd   /DysEngMP/ into mappe
  if there is no folder mappe then create folder mappe
  ---Creates alias on desktop:
  put skrbord /DysEngMP.lnk into snarvei
  create alias(snarvei) to file mappe  --file is used even for a folder

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Re: New engine...

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At 11:21 16.04.2004 +0200, you wrote:

snip

I have not been able to follow your discussion since I do not use MacOSX. 
However, did you try: put decompress (url(binfile:..gz)) into ? 
This decompresses .gzip-files as far as I know.

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RE: AVI/WMV Playback Control?

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At 08:31 10.03.2004 +, you wrote:
Peter, I used MCI with MetaCard a long time ago and it worked; it allows
you to play from a position to another position, so it may be a good
approach for you. Scott Rossi has a reference at his site:
   http://www.tactilemedia.com/info/MCI_Control_Info.html

Although this doesn't help on the Mac...

Ken Ray
Thanks for the link Ken.  Do you have any simple MC/Rev coding examples of 
the use of this stuff?  Also, do you know if the linked document is still 
reliable (for current Windows) given that it is dated 1991 and refers to 
OS/2 as well as Windows?!
I use mci to record and play audio (wave files) on Windows XP using MC. It 
still works perfectly in 2004. In MC you use get mciSendString()  For 
instance:

put open  quote  orglyd  quote  type waveaudio alias myAudio into 
tstring
get mciSendString(tstring)

get mciSendString (status myAudio length)

There are two stacks in the Developers area: mciSendString and mciMidi. 
These may put you on the right track.

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Locate the desktop on Mac Classic?

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello,
I run an application from a CD-ROM. The students can use a note book, and 
their file shall end up either on the desktop or in a folder on the desktop 
on Mac.

On my own Mac the harddisk is named /signes/ whereas the first component 
may vary on other people's computers:Harddisk, Mac HD etc.
How can I identify its name from the CD-ROM in order to write the notes' 
file to the harddisk?

Thanks in advance.

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RE: AVI/WMV Playback Control?

[Signe Marie Sanne]

At 10:44 10.03.2004 +, you wrote:
I use mci to record and play audio (wave files) on Windows XP using MC. 
It still works perfectly in 2004. In MC you use get 
mciSendString()  For instance:

put open  quote  orglyd  quote  type waveaudio alias myAudio 
into tstring
get mciSendString(tstring)

get mciSendString (status myAudio length)

There are two stacks in the Developers area: mciSendString and mciMidi. 
These may put you on the right track.

Signe Marie Sanne
Thanks Signe.  Please could you give me the link to the developers area, 
it's so long since I've been to the MC site, I don't have the link anymore 
and it's not referenced directly on the site itself!
Actually I wanted to provide the links for you, but did not find them. 
However, using Go_RevNet under Web Links I found this one: 
http://www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk.htm. Look under Utilities. I also 
have a stack MCIRecorder, can't remember where I found it. Perhaps someone 
else on the list may help us.



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Re: Player FileName from Loaded URL

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At 22:12 02.02.2004 -0800, you wrote:
[I asked a question similar to the following in the past without a
definitive answer so I thought I'd try again to see if there's any new
insight :-) ]
Is it possible to set the fileName of a player to a loaded URL?

I have script which loads the URL of an audio file into the local cache.
But if I try to set the fileName of a player to the loaded URL, the result
reads could not open movie file.  This technique works with stacks but
apparently not with other file types.  Is it even possible to access the
local cache directly when the loaded file is something other than a stack?
I know I could write out the audio file to the drive, but I'd like to avoid
cluttering the user's drive with downloaded files.
I use this technique after downloading the audio file:

 put urlStatus(tUrl) into stat
 if stat contains cached then
put url tUrl into var
put binfile:  the directory  /sfp.wav into filnavn
put decompress(var) into url filnavn --Generates a audio file with the 
name sfp.wav
put the directory  /sfp.wav into lydfil
play lydfil
unload url tUrl
delete file lydfil --Deletes the local audio file
exit updateme
  end if

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No postings since 6 June

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Title: No postings since 6 June


Will you please check to see if you have
cut me off both from the Revolution and the MetaCard discussion lists.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: sentences as items

[Signe Marie Sanne]

You can do it one of two ways.  I am using .rtf files
and reading them in at run-time so that I have styled
text.  What I first did was use the command set the
clipboardData[text] to NumToChar(160) in the Rev
Message Box.  Then I opened my text editor and pasted
where necessary.  It worked well.  But then I moved my
file to the Mac.  Because it's a higher ASCII
character, it didn't display right on the Mac.  So
what I ended up doing was putting some other lower
ASCII character like ~ (or anything that's not very
likely) in my files instead of the actual delimiter
character.
I would suggest using # as delimiter since you find it easily (in 
the same way and place) on the keyboard for both Windows and Mac.
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Re: OT: Elegant Cross Platform Fonts

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Does someone have a short, fairly reliable, list of fonts that are 
likely to be found both on Mac and Windows machines? I suppose I 
could look at one of our windows machines here, but I am thinking 
someone of you has already been down this road and will already have 
a definitive list.

In particular I am looking for a cross-platform font that is a 
little prettier and more elegant that Arial, for use as a large 
display font where I am dynamically changing the text from a 
customProperty and don't want to make all those text displays as 
images in Photoshop ahead of time (too much work and too much data) 
In this context we don't have really tight size parameters we have 
to worry about as we will just give it plenty of room (unlike when 
making small buttons where the type size differences for the same 
font across platforms can be a headache.)

I used to set textfonts to Geneva on Mac and MS Sans Serif (up to 17) 
and Arial (for higher) on Windows. Then to my dismay I discovered 
that on Windows XP the font MS Sans Serif has disappeared, or perhaps 
just changed name to Microsoft Sans Serif. This meant that I have to 
change the script lines of hundreds of programs (sigh!). I have now 
started using only VERDANA which is a distinct and nice font and has 
been found on both platforms for some years now. The textsize and 
textheight varies just a little from one platform to another.  At 
least it's worth a try!

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Re: inserting accented characters

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Signe, I thought this was a plausible explanation, so I built a distribution
for Win32 and tried it, but still a Rev app does not trap these key 
combinations
and translate them into 'international' characters.

I think this is starting to look like a bug.


 - when I press the 'AltGr' key it opens the Script Editor!  When I try the
 'circumflex' key followed by 'a', I just get 'a'.  Ditto with
 'shift'+^   - only
 'a' appears.

 Without having tested this, I guess this happens in the development
 mode. If your stack is to be used as a standalone, I think it will

  work.


Bernard, I just downloaded Revolution on my Windows 2000, made a 
standalone and tested the accented letters. Here on my (Norwegian) 
keyboard  everything works fine. In development mode there's a 
problem with accent aigu (é), since AltGr + accent key opens the 
Properties window.

Kevin, what can be done with this? Both French and Spanish make 
extensive use of this accent!

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Re: inserting accented characters

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Signe.  Thank you for going to the trouble of doing that.

I think that this indicates that it is some setting in Windows 2000. 
Given that one cannot know what the user's settings are (and that as 
an application developer one probably shouldn't rely on being able 
to reconfigure these), and given that different OSs use different 
keyboard-combo shortcuts to display these characters, I think that I 
am right to go with my character-to-button palette mapping.  I want 
to have a technique that is easy for the user to use and that is 
cross-platform and that is independent of any settings on the 
machine on which my app runs.

It also has the benefit that it can be used for other purposes e.g. 
for applications where users have key phrases that they need to 
insert often - these could be placed in the list and then generate a 
selection palette.

Incidentally, I remember earlier on you seemed to think the palette 
idea was not the way to go.  Was this because you thought it 
important to protect the screen real-estate or because you knew I 
would run into technical difficulties on transferring the text 
between stacks?  I think I will eventually get round the final 
technical difficulty I am having.  But if not, I will start to look 
at ways of putting the list of 'international' character on the card 
itself.

Hello again Bernard (I thought you were asleep at this hour? Are you 
in Europe?)

You really got me thinking. First of all, what you say about settings 
in Windows 2000, I do not think is the case. Will, please, users on 
other Window platforms chime in and confirm the use of the accented 
letters in standalones? Or is it the English keyboard which creates 
the problem, but you do have the two accent keys available?

Only if you are sure the users can not make use of the accent keys, 
then I would go for a palette or a specific card. The most user 
friendly way would be to have the users click on an accented letter 
and let scripting insert it in the text field. But I would use a 
palette or a card for the rest of strange letters, such as c 
cedille, o+e in French, tilde in Spanish.

If you then want to give the user the possibility to save key 
phrases, I would have made a button Insert new phrase or Insert 
new accented letter (on a card). This would open an Ask window in 
which the user writes what he needs, and then your scripting would 
add this to the list, or insert a new button  or whatever you choose. 
Now I think this is getting complicated, so I'll stop here.
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Re: inserting accented characters

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Signe

Thanks for replying.  However, I'm a bit confused by your reply. Does this
relate to a pallete of accents that I create myself:


I'm still not sure I understand you; wasn't your aim to let users 
type text included accented letters into a field? This was what I 
replied to, ie. how a user type the accented letters. -I have 
students in French, Italian, Spanish, German, Norwegian typing 
various accented letters into a field. A small instruction text 
available on demand on each screen explains how to type, and in my 
experience they learn it very quickly.

Perhaps the misunderstanding relates to accented letters which I 
have interpreted as letters with accent aigu, umlaut etc. If you were 
thinking of other unusual letters such as ç (c cédille), ¦ (o+e), the 
Scandinavian æ, ø, å etc. (I do not know if these letters come across 
in this posting since I'm on a Mac), the situation is different. In 
that case it is convenient to have the letters present on the screen, 
either in a specific field or as name/label of buttons. When a letter 
is chosen (clicked on), just let your scripting take care of 
inserting it after the last character of the field.

If you prefer a text field you put the following script into the 
field (which is locked):
on mouseUp
put the clickText after fld fieldname
end mouseUp

If you use buttons:
on mouseUp
put the short name of the target  -- or: put the label of the 
target-- after fld fieldname
end mouseUp

If you want to make use of a palette, you can place the text or the 
buttons on it, but there is no need for a palette. I usually have a 
button on a screen labeled How to type or similar. When clicked, a 
field appears with the appropriate help.

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Re: Stacks delivered via the web?

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Hello Judy,
I have used stacks delivered via the web to various students for more 
than a year, and I must admit that each time I'm looking at the 
downloading I still feel lucky to how discovered this genial solution 
and think you should go for it. In previous years when I saw 
descriptions of it I did not understand all the things which had to 
be done to implement it (perhaps it was me not being a native 
speaker, or perhaps the descriptions were to computerese for me as a 
former lecturer in Italian). I shall try to explain it in simple and 
plain words how it is done:

A link on an ordinary web page downloads a stack (which Troy Rollins 
calls a stub and Sivakatirswami earlier has called a portal stack, 
I tend to call it a particular kind of net browser). This stack has 
to be in standalone format for each platform. When compressed their 
size is 1.2 and 1.6 MB. This stack is to reside permanently on the 
student's harddisk.

In the stack there are menus (in my case in the form of buttons) 
which, when clicked, download and open the various educational 
programs. These programs are read into memory and leaves no trace on 
the student's harddisk (not even in the cache folder as far as I 
know).

The various educational programs are very easy to maintain: each time 
I make a change on whatever platform, I just upload the stack to the 
server (no need to make platform specific versions before uploading).

See Richard Herz' excellent explanation and examples: 
http://mechanics.ucsd.edu/research/herz/web_24/.

I have also made a stack to show uploading/downloading, compression, 
proxy handling etc.: 
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/developerdownloads/usercontributions.html. 
It is called Stacks Down - A Stack uploader  downloader.

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Download (and upload) stacks

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello to all

I have a stack (in MetaCard) which I had planned to make available at 
http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/contributors.htm. However, Kevin 
Miller answers me that this url will be taken down and moved to 
runrev.com. He would be willing to accept the stack, but it must 
first be converted to Revolution. Since I do not use Revolution, I 
wonder if one of you Revolution users would take the trouble to have 
a look at the stack and convert it. I'll send it to the first person 
who volunteers to do it.

The stack is meant as a tutorial on how to download stacks from a 
server both from http and ftp urls. It also includes scripts on how 
to compress, upload and decompress the stacks before downloading, as 
well as how to bypass a proxy server. These scripts have proven very 
useful for me and my students and I am sure other educators who want 
to deliver material over the web will find them useful too.

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Sound Recording on Windows Platform

[Signe Marie Sanne]

Hello,  (using MetaCard 2.4.2B2)

on Windows NT/2000 it is possible to record with MACE 3:1 at 44.100 
kHz, 8bit, Mono ( record sound tMysoundFile  with dialog). However, 
I have found it more convenient to use the built-in panel Sound 
recording. The script is:

put word 1 to -2 of 
queryRegistry(hkey_classes_root\soundRec\shell\record\command\) 
into lyd
launch lyd

If someone has the recipe to launch Mac's built-in recorder Apple 
Simple Sound I would be grateful for a suggestion.

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