[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.0.0.3 has no printer in Win7 - SHOW STOPPER

2013-02-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tim,

Good idea. I'll poke around on the Wiki's and see if I can find a good spot
to insert it. Of course folks would then need to realize they'd need to look
in the Wiki to get the information on how to capture a log of the install if
they're having problems with a Windows installation.

Suspect it will go under the how-to submit a bug Wiki content.

Stuart



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RE: [libreoffice-users] On a Bugzilla bug page after a change is made it says Email sent to and then Excluding what does this mean?

2013-02-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
Default behavior of the TDF hosted Bugzilla service to not send when the 
change was made by me, i.e. you don't get an email copy when you do the 
action.  

Can be adjusted per user account on the Preferences - Email Preferences tab of 
your Bugzilla account.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Chart, Custom Menu Problems in LibreOffice 4.0.5

2013-09-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jonathan,


Jonathan Levi wrote
 ... (see attachments, if they're allowed).

Attachments do not make it with posts, stripped out by mail list server by
design.

You can post with attachment  via Nabble interface:
Chart-Custom-Menu-Problems-in-LibreOffice-4-0-5
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Chart-Custom-Menu-Problems-in-LibreOffice-4-0-5-td4073460.html
  

But would be more helpful if you were to file a Bug report.   Read this
first: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

The guided  Bug Submission Agent (BSA)
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/  is functional, you'd be
reporting against the calc component.

Or you can submit directly to TDF's LibreOffice Bugzilla instance hosted by
the Free Desktop Organization:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org  for the LibreOffice project. 

We'd need to know what OS you are using.  Specifics of the program used to
create the spread sheet with the mishandled charts/graphs and macro.  Any
other details of the behavior you see, versus what you expect. 

Screen shots are helpful, but to improve quality of the Bug report, 
attachment of the problem spread sheet--if possible (sensitive details
redacted)--is necessary.  Reason being that if issue can't be reproduced
with known conditions, it can't be corrected.  If all we have is a screen
shot--not much can be done with the issue.

Stuart




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)

2013-10-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
Alex,

Ouch!  Any idea what failed, so as the rest of us can avoid it? ;-)   
I'd been looking at a Mavericks upgrade on a late model MacMini I've been 
playing with.

None the less good luck with recovery!

Stuart


From: Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:35 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)

On 23/10/2013 18:31, Ken Springer wrote:


 Alex, apologies for the cynicism, but they could have gotten a
 developer's preview version of Mavericks before it was released.  I have
 two commercial programs installed here that did just that, so they could
 have their software ready for the Mavericks release.

 I doubt money would have been an issue, anyone upgrading to Mavericks
 gets the new OS for free.


Well my upgrade to Mavericks hosed my MacMini OSX 10.8.5 installation
and the hard disk on which it was installed, to the extent that the
installation would not complete, the system would not reboot, and the
disk could not even be repaired - now that's what I call a
professionally made OS, thanks Apple ;-)


Will now have to see if TimeMachine did the backups properly...


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: OOOlatex

2013-11-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
Patrick,

OOOlatex looks to be a defunct extension project never integrated with
LibreOffice (e.g. it was just lucky its oxt worked).
See:
http://ooolatex.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooolatex/files/?source=navbar


Substantive work has migrated to  TexMaths
http://roland65.free.fr/texmaths/  
http://sourceforge.net/projects/texmaths/files/

Perhaps try that.

Regards

Stuart



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RE: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the compression on the odt docs

2014-01-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
Frank,

Wrong venue... take the suggestion to the standards group for ODF

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office

The LibreOffice project is simply an implementer and has greater issues with 
ODF standards.

Kind regards,

Stuart

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 4:39 PM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] I think you could significantly improve the
 compression on the odt docs
 
 Acctually I thought that it was kinda obvious and I was thinking that you'd
 want to fix it before your ODT standard was widly adopted.
 It would be easier to change the code of 10 programs then 1000 once you
 finally retire the standard.
 You could also develop a split in the standard and call the files *.ODT2.
 Personally I was shocked how bad the compression was. I expected maybe
 I'd get 5% or (if I was really lucky) 15% better compression, but 25%! That's
 (as someone already pointed out) HUGE!
 I am advising to fix the spec before the cat gets out of the bag.
 
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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

2014-02-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Ivan,

From: IOmazic ioma...@wmo.int
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:21 AM

is it possible that you share this tools for windows? I will need to install
it to around 450 pc, so it will be cool to have some tool to do all
modification needed.

Since LibreOffice is packaged for installation using Microsoft Installer 
(msiexec.exe) you have a lot of options for doing the installation.  You can 
directly modify the installer package with Microsofts ORCA utility.  You can 
run /A administrative install to a network share and modify the resulting .msi 
installer, or apply a transform against it.  Or you can do either and push with 
GPO or SCCM deployment.

Point is the standard tools for Windows software deployment all work pretty 
well with the way that Andras  Timar and others have packaged the builds.

Stuart 


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RE: [libreoffice-users] ver. 4.2 copy/paste bug - update

2014-02-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

From: Tom Cloyd...

 To recap - the dev version you refer me to below is for Windows. I run 
 Kubuntu Linux 13.11.

Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part, I did not realize you were on -- 
kubuntu. 

 3. Here's the problem:

 a. I move some cells from one sheet in a Calc document to a higher
 location in the same sheet.

 b. This messes up some linked formulas, so I copy two cells that are
 correct down through all the others (normally this works OK). to relink
 the formula.

 c. Immediately and I get this error message:

 /vector::_M_range_check

 /...closing the error message modal window immediate crashes the whole
 problem.


 I can offer to share the spreadsheet in which the crash occurs, for what
 that's worth. It has maybe 30 sheets and is about a meg. in size. I did
 find that removing about 15 of the sheets appeared to stop the problem,
 for unknown reasons.


The primary developers for Calc have been on top of issues with the major code 
refactoring done for the 4.2.0 release. 
So, if you can attach your problem spreadsheet to a FDO hosted Bugzilla report 
with precise Steps to Reproduce the issue that is the best way to assure that 
the issue gets attention.

 I'd attempt a bug report, but every time I've tried that I've gotten
 lost in the sheer strangeness of the process. I just can't take the time
 to try to wrestle through the process, which is certainly not set up for
 average users, I'd say.

In truth filing is pretty straight forward, but you'll need to register an 
account to submit. Two choices: one guided with the Bug Submission Assistant 
(BSA) - https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/  or  directly into the 
Bugzilla interface at http://bugs.libreoffice.org/  (currently a link to 
bugs.freedesktop.org hosted BZ).  For either case, give it a descriptive title 
and you'd report against:

Product: LibreOffice
Version: 4.2.1.1 release
Component: Spreadsheet
Platform: x86(IA32), Linux  -- once we get a look at your attached spreadsheet 
we'd confirm and expand the platform against other platforms.

And If you file, and please do so we can confirm and get this attended to, post 
back with the BZ number.

If there's some other package I should have installed, let me know and
I'll try it, but right now it looks like this issue isn't even on
anyone's radar.

Devs sort of expect folks on Linux to roll their own, but as you found there is 
 the nightly TinderBox-45 rolling 32-bit RPM and DEBs of master:   
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Linux-rpm_deb-x86@45-TDF/current/
 

If you can get the kunbutu install done from the DEB, should help identify if 
the revised code in master has addressed your issues. 

Also, there are PPA packaged builds for the Unbutu folks as well, I just 
checked and a 4.2.2.0 not yet posted. But you could keep an eye on it:

https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa 
and
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases for earlier 
review.

Stuart


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Where are the file checksums?

2014-03-10 Thread V Stuart Foote
For earlier versions that have dropped from the LibreOffice mirror system--
see the   TDF LibreOffice archives
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/  . 

The MD5, SHA1 and SHA256 hashes are recorded in the 'Details' links for each
file.

For most folks, using the hash and skipping the GPG verification is
sufficient.

But,  if you are super cautious,  you'll need to use a GnuPG client to
extract and verify the .ASC PGP signature of the download.

Note: on Windows that would probably be  Gpg4win
http://gpg4win.org/download.html  , it offers the Kleopatra GUI to
simplify the steps.

For any OS,  you'll need the LibreOffice project public key, named 
0xf434a1efafeeaea3

Done from CLI with

 gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys AFEEAEA3

and then running the  GPG verify against the .ASC signature for the
download.  Both the installer package and the signature file need to be in
the same directory.

 gpg --verify LibreOffice_4.1.5.3_Win_x86.msi.asc

In doing so, you both verify the signature of the download (that it came
from TDF build process)  and  coincidentally verify the integrity
--completeness-- of the download.

And for completeness, the Apache OpenOffice folks sign with public key
51B5FDE8

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: MSO for iPad, big deal or big yawn

2014-04-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
 It's a shame none of the Open Source office's has the manpower to build an
 Android version. Now it's too late ;) 

Seriously, Pedro?  Actually, TDF and the LibreOffice Devs, notably Tor
Lillqvist, have been hard after an Android build.

Not sure of its fitness for use, but  daily builds of Master for Android are
here:   TinderBox 24 -- Android-ARM
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Android-ARM@24-Bytemark-Hosting/
  

Stuart





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RE: [libreoffice-users] Non-PDF Portable Document Formats (Exporting from LO)

2014-04-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
Top posting answer to Hal...

See either of two ways to proceed, since LibreOffice already bases it PDF page 
rendering on Poppler and bundles it, you might as well  work against that and 
write a LibreOffice extension.

Alternative might be the java source code from Writer2LaTex project 
(http://writer2latex.sourceforge.net/ ) for the Writer2xhtml that will handle 
ODF document conversion directly to EPUB. Or simply use the extension as is 
with LibreOffice. 

Stuart


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 From: Hal Vaughan [mailto:li...@halblog.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:49 PM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Non-PDF Portable Document Formats (Exporting
 from LO)
 
 I'm working on an e-reader for special purposes.  While I don't want to go
 into a discussion of the point of this program and why I'm doing another, a
 brief summary may help.  As a writer, I don't like sending my work over email
 or other insecure methods of internet transfer.  This e-reader would let me
 (and my writer friends) share our work easily with our friends while keeping
 it encrypted during transfer and even on the reader's computer.  The file is
 read in and decrypted when displayed for reading.  This would also let me
 make early drafts expire so they can be ditched when they're obsolete.
 
 I still haven't decided what language to use for this.  Initially it'll work 
 on OSX,
 Windows, and Linux.  I'd like to expand it to Android and iOS.  There's a good
 chance it'd be in C++ or Java, but it would be great if I could do it in 
 Python.  (I
 know of Kivy and other efforts that would make it easy for me to transport
 Python to at least Android.)
 
 The problem is I need some kind of portable document format.  I know that
 implies, immediately, PDF.  However, there seems to be only one library that
 handles PDF display, and that's Poppler.  I'm not an expert programmer (at
 least not in C++), and when I've asked for help from the Poppler people,
 they've been abrupt and less than helpful.
 
 I'd like to be able to write in LO, then save or export my file, and have it 
 in a
 format I can easily display on the different operating systems.
 
 I tried saving some files in HTML.  The plain text ones were no problem at 
 all.
 Margins and formatting was preserved just as I needed it.  But then I tried
 one that was part of a pitch, so it had a page of text, then a page of 
 pictures,
 basically two columns of pictures with captions below each picture.  I loaded
 that in a browser and the formatting was okay on the first page, but was
 totally messed up on the 2nd page with the pictures.
 
 As best I can tell, at this point, there is not a portable library out there 
 that I
 can use from within a program to easily display ODT files, but that would be a
 great solution.
 
 So what format can I use when exporting from LibreOffice, other than PDF,
 that can be easily displayed by any libraries in either Java, C++, or Python?
 
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 
 Hal



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Endnote references get corrupted with copy+paste

2014-04-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
Kartik,

Not a developer, just a QA volunteer with some basic triage skills.

One thing to be aware of, is that in reverting to a release earlier than
4.1.5.3 (i.e. the 4.1.4.2 build) is that the issues of references in copied
text  fdo#63553 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63553   that
were patched will now again be present.  

Until Devs have an occasion to again revisit the handling anchored
references,  you'll have to decide if the other aspect of reference
corruption is more of an issue for you.

Stuart

P.S.-- OT,  regards Tom's PM suggestion of having a look at Zotero
https://www.zotero.org/download/  . The Zotero Standalone build and its
LibreOffice extension is valid for a more robust handling of citations and
references.  Hosted Zotero services are also available via browser plug-in
and a similar LibreOffice extension.  

Unless Thompson-Reuters resumes Endnote support for the OpenOffice.org
derivatives, the Zotero framework offers the most complete support for
referential citations in LibreOffice.  





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen

2014-04-20 Thread V Stuart Foote
David, *,


The enhancement of returning to the Start Center at any point is actually a
reasonable idea.

But, always helpful if we post the link to the bug or enhancement request
entered in Bugzilla, that way all can follow along and comment there.

So that is   fdo#77590 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77590  
for this enhancement.

As noted by Cor on the enhancement request, as the last open document is
closed (without exiting LibreOffice)--the start screen (correctly known as
the Start Center) will reappear.

The Start Center evolved from the merging of  the Recent Documents menu
(available in all frames) and the Thumbnail views of the Template manager
(on the Start Center, or from File - Templates, or with CtrlShift+n).

Enhancements to the the Recent Documents list are being tracked in 
fdo#61174 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61174  

Enhancements to the Start Center (merge of Recent Documents list with
Thumbnail views) in  fdo#61914
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61914  .



 




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[libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-04-29 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

Tom Cloyd wrote
 Everyday, I organize my life around two large LO spreadsheets. I'm 
 running ver. 4.2.1.1.
 
 Since the last major update (ver. 4.2.1?), my day begins with a serious 
 of crashes - only after I save both sheets (separately, of course) 6-12 
 times, each time after some small operation, do they get stable. 
 Usually. Mostly. Except when they aren't.
 
 I'm doing wild, exotic things like moving rows around, and inserting 
 rows, or filling in columns with data copied from other columns.

Not sure your work flow is going to be stable on any spread sheet
program--too many moving parts.

But if ALL you are interested in is a solid Spreadsheet, perhaps have a look
at an alternative. Gnumeric comes to mind--http://www.gnumeric.org/

Otherwise, the mature LibreOffice 4.1.6 is very stable (but at the end of
its development life).   


 I'm SO ready for the next version.
 
 Anyone have a clue when it's due to land?

The 4.2.4 fresh build is just rolling out now.  

But my suggestion would be to test the calc component for 4.3.0  where there
has been very substantive refactoring work to improve its function and
stability.  It is available now in its initial alpha build--personally I'd
give that a go--it is here:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/
 
Stuart




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[libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-04-29 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

I should have added a note regards option of doing a parallel installation
so you can test the versions side-by-side to identify the best stability for
your work flow.

See this Wiki page: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

Regards,

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Intentionally crashing LibreOffice when frozen/LibreOffice will not start.

2014-05-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jacqueline Tarleton wrote
 But I am getting more comfortable with using R itself to answer these...
 
 Excuse my ignorance - What is R?
 
 This particular Thread has provided amazing details on the limitations of
 Libre Office Calc, tips, hints, and workarounds- except do not know what
 is
 R.

You'll find what you seek here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_%28programming_language%29
http://www.r-project.org/

Stuart




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[libreoffice-users] Re: keyboard shortcut to navigate tables

2014-05-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Ruth Ann wrote
 Is there a keyboard shortcut that will let me move from cell to cell in 
 a table in Writer? I can not find any  mention of one in the help 
 section, and so far, the only way I know to move the cursor to the next 
 cell is to use the mouse.
 Ruth Ann, Cincinnati, OH USA

Hmm, agree could not find it specifically documented, however the
Ctrl+R,L,U orD cursor movements seem to advance from cell to cell in a
Writer table, rather than word to word as in a paragraph.   Ctrl+Home
takes you to first table cell. Ctrl+End Ctrl+End takes you to the
last cell.

ref:  https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer




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[libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

Believe you REALLY should get off of the 4.2.x branch and move onto the 4.3
now in alpha.
Devs have really put a lot of effort into exactly these issues for the 4.3
release.

First 4.3 alpha pre-release is 
here:  http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/

or perhaps work with the nightly builds of master (4.3.0.0alpha1+) from 
here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/ you'll very quickly
identify if your work flow is going to ever be supported.

Try them first  in a parallel install, and perhaps side-by-side with
GNUmeric.

Stuart




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

Glad you are making progress.  Now, if we can impose a bit on you ;-)

It would be very helpful if you can now more completely characterize the 
remaining issue into a formal issue report on our Bugzilla tracker (as hosted 
by FreeDesktop.org but early in a migration to our own).

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/index.cgi   where you'd Open a New Account

Then, you can File a Bug from there against LibreOffice, selecting component 
of Spreadsheet, and setting version of 4.3.0.0.alpha1

Or alternatively, use the Bugzilla Submission Assistant as an alternative -- 
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ -- with the Bugzilla log-in just 
created.

All very simple, but the work/pain needed would be that attached to the new bug 
we'd need you to put a sanitized version of the problem spreadsheet that still 
produces the crash.  And also include the specific steps you perform that are 
resulting in the vector::_M_range_check crashes.  The better the description 
of steps to reproduce with the sample document, the more likely one of the devs 
will be able to pin down the specific cause of the crash.

And, since you are on Linux, you might also attach a backtrace  and strace of 
the crash--details for that are here: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport/Debug_Information#GNU.2FLinux

I know it will be a bit of work for you to get it submitted, but it is worth 
the hassle as it may lead to complete support for your work flows.

Post back with your Bugzilla issue ID once you get it filed.

Stuart


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Cloyd [mailto:tomcloydm...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 9:20 AM
 To: V Stuart Foote; LibreOffice User's Help Forum
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!
 
 Stuart,
 
 Update and status report - good news! -
 
 1. I've installed Version: 4.3.0.0.alpha1 Build ID:
 46cfcd5a05aa1d13fecd73f5a25b64b8d8dd6781.
 
 It's at least as solid as ver. 4.1.6.2 was for me. I'm still having
 vector::_M_range_check crashes - but only in one particular situation.
 As long as all my work is in one sheet - no errors at all. What a
 relief! But moving data to another sheet crashes it under a very
 specific situation.
 
 I'm working on a replication dataset so I can file a bug and maybe see
 this problem removed completely while it's still an alpha. That would be
 fantastic. I'd also be actually contributing a little to development,
 and I'd love to do that.
 
 So, all the work that's gone into this new version has sure paid off for
 ME, and I'm very grateful.
 
 2. I installed 4.3.0.0 in parallel with 4.1.6.2, in case I had to revert
 to that, but right now - about 25 minutes into it I don't see that
 happening. Better to go forward, I think. My experiences can then help
 to improve the code, maybe.
 
 3. I installed GNUmeric. Gck! Not good. It was incredibly slow. To
 insert a single new row in one sheet took about 50 seconds. More
 complicated things took even longer. It wouldn't copy formatting, and I
 could NOT find a format painter, which I simply must have. A total no-go
 for me. But, worth a look.
 
 So, as of now, I'm back in business and moving forward, and that's a
 much better place than I was yesterday - all of which was devoted to
 trying to resolve this problem.
 
 Thanks for your help for pushing me into 4.3. I had to study up on a few
 things, but the LO wiki material was extremely helpful and clear, and it
 solved all problems that came up.
 
 Onward!
 
 Tom
 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

When you get a chance, could you load up a newer nightly build of master,
e.g. of the 4.3.0.0alpha1+ build. Found here--
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/

Kohei Yoshida, one of the lead devs on the calc spreadsheet component,  made
a range of commits on 24 April (the 4.3.0.0alpha1 was wrapped up 20 April so
not included yet for it) against bugs  fdo#76607
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76607   and  fdo#72741
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72741  .

I kind of suspect that your remaining issue may already have been corrected.  
If so, let us know and perhaps add your bugzilla user ID to the CC list for
the issue.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Dear libreoffice

2014-05-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
Colin,

Thanks for posting!

LibreOffice is a community of volunteer users designers and developers. With
some corporate sponsorship of all facets.
Point is, that you are more than welcome to volunteer the effort to improve
the product, but no one is going to do so for you simply at your behest.

In fact a release build of the 4.2 branch offers reliable cross referencing
and footnotes, and with current development builds (pre-4.3.0) citation and
parenthetical notation has been further cleaned up. 

Additionally the Zotero project  (Center for History and New Media (CHNM) at
George Mason University) already offers a fully functional extension for
LibreOffice that meets technical and academic users requirements on Ubuntu
and all other OSs running LibreOffice.

The Mendeley project (now owned by Elsevier publishing) offers comparable
functions including a citation plugin supporting Word, LibreOffice and
BibTex.

If you have specific issues of incompatibility, you can contribute by
writing up and submitting complete bug reports and submitting to the
appropriate project.

Regards,

Stuart Foote
LibreOffice QA volunteer
The University of Texas at San Antonio



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
@NoOp

Full threads in context are available on the Nabble service:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html



From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:15 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

On 05/04/2014 04:34 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi Tom :)
 Good answers to Urmas there.  Considerate, understanding and
 light-hearted.  Nicely done! :)

Did I miss something? Who/what is Urmas?






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RE: [libreoffice-users] Installation Trouble

2014-05-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
Archive of the old releases is here:

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/

You'll note there were several in the 3.5.x line, so you may have to open the 
Windows registry to see the GUID of the build that was installed that needs to 
be recovered/deleted.

Good luck.

Stuart


From: kstellmach kstellm...@selectrehab.com
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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Installation Trouble

I am trying to install the newest Version of Libre Office on a client
computer, and it seems they had a previous version of 3.5 that was
uninstalled incorrectly, and the .msi file is missing so I cannot install a
new version, or uninstall the application. I cannot find the 3.5 version
.msi file on the website, and I tried downloading one from a third party
website with no luck. I would really like to get this up and running on this
PC without having to completely reformat the drive. Any help would be
appreciated as to how to resolve this issue.

Thank you

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Which components do you use most?

2014-05-12 Thread V Stuart Foote
Girvin,

Girvin Herr wrote
 I seem to have missed the OP's posting...

No, y0u had to OP as tacked on to Anne's--by Virgil A.

And just a reminder that anyone can (and maybe should)  review partial
threads (in thread context, or as a sequential list) from the Nabble
interface to the LibreOffice Users forum
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html  .



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-13 Thread V Stuart Foote
Top posting to Tom C.,

While there are some great people and many opinions here on the user forum, 
many facets of the collaborative development process and project management  go 
under appreciated.

As it is, the UX and Design teams are always in need of valid requirements 
analysis, and the Marketing team really should be doing more general user 
polling.

Suspect that efforts on those fronts would be well received--if you have a 
hankering to contribute ;-)

Regards,

Stuart
San Antonio, Texas
 


From: Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:50 AM
To: Virgil Arrington; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

You mean I'm the only deadly serious one here? Ah...alone at last! :)

t.

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Dutch spellchecking

2014-05-14 Thread V Stuart Foote
Top posting reply to Rogier,

The default installation will include language (dialogs and menus, and 
dictionary) of the detected system local language.
I can not say how complete the Spelling dictionary and hyphenation rules for 
Dutch are, but the Pootle translations for Dutch (language code nl) show as 99% 
complete.  Perhaps Cor Nouws monitors this forum and will respond.

To support multiple languages (dialogs and dictionaries) and provide built-in 
help, you must choose a custom installation and select the additional languages 
as well as any additional dictionary support, as well as separately install the 
language specific built-in help.

Additionally, there is an older, OpenOffice.org era, Dutch spelling and 
hyphenation dictionary extension still posted to the Apache OpenOffice project 
site, not sure of its fitness for use.  
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/node/1456/releases

HTH

Stuart
  


From: Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:18 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Dutch spellchecking

I used to have a Dutch spell checker in OO, but I cannot seem to find one
anywhwere any more. What gives? Does anybody have an idea?

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[libreoffice-users] RE: Dutch spellchecking

2014-05-14 Thread V Stuart Foote
V Stuart Foote wrote
 I can not say how complete the Spelling dictionary and hyphenation rules
 for Dutch are

So digging just a bit further, as referenced here in  git repository
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/dictionaries/tree/nl_NL/README_NL.txt 
, LibreOffice uses the OpenTaal v2.00G word list--the same as the AOO posted
extension. Assume that is a fairly comprehensive dictionary list.

With correct installation, should be available to you in Dutch.






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RE: [libreoffice-users] Capitalizing Similar to Sentence Structure for Fields

2014-05-19 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Joel, *,

Spent some time with it, not possible. A valid enhancement request.
 
Responded on the bug report...

Stuart



From: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 10:22 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Capitalizing Similar to Sentence Structure for 
Fields

Hi All,

Bug report says that it's not possible to insert a field and capitalize
like a sentence (ie. first word capitalized, everything else not).

Can someone take a look at this:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76463list_id=424995 and
tell me if it's currently possible. It seems like it is but I figured
I'd go to the user list and ask to see if anyone knows how. If so can
you list the steps (either to me, or on the bug report) on how to
accomplish this.


Thanks again,

Joel

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Problems while trying to reinstall LO 3.4.3

2011-09-15 Thread V Stuart Foote
Had a similar experience with Windows 7 64-bit, at LO 3.3.2 -- 3.4.0
and then again recently 3.4.2 -- 3.4.3  

Found I simply needed to reboot following the uninstall, and then
install.

-Original Message-
From: Jonathon Waterman [mailto:peedyswo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:42 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problems while trying to reinstall LO 3.4.3

Operating system: Windows 7 64 bit Home edition

Previously I had LibreOffice 3.4.3 installed on my computer, but
uninstalled
it when I was not able to get the Synonyms in Write  to work the way in
did
in version 3.4.2.

I wanted to go back and re-install version 3.4.2 - but have not been
able to
locate the installation files.

So I concluded I would have to re-install 3.4.3. However, now when I try
to
install either version 3.4.3  I get the error The feature you are
trying to
use is on a network resource that is unavailable, /click OK to try
again, or
enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package
libreoffice34.msi in the box below.

The box below - does contain the specific path to this file and even if
do
an installation from a different drive/folder - I get the same error.

If I hit OK - I then get the following error:

The file the installation drive/folder is not a valid installation
package
for the product LibreOffice 3.4. Try to find the installation package
libreoffice34.msi in a folder from which you can install LibreOffice
3.4.

The file and folder being used is on my C drive and this is not
problem
accessing files on the drive or folder.

Note: If I cancel the installation - I get: Error 1714. The older
version of
libreOffice 3.4 cannot be removed. Contact your technical support group.

Because of this problem - I have had to use OpenOffice, but would prefer
to
use LibreOffice.

Why would I be getting this error and how can it be fixed?



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Working on an archive site/pages forLO and the DVD

2011-10-10 Thread V Stuart Foote
On Mon 10/10/2011 9:04 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
[mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] wrote:

As for md5sum filse, I never created them before.  If you check the
LibreOffice.org download page, you will find that they do not have
md5sum files listed either.


Actually,  the Libre Office offers them as a check-box option. They've always 
been there.

ALSO, for security sake, ALL files that are downloaded [Windows users
should always do this] should be run though your virus scanners before
you run them.  Some scanners actually check all downloaded files right
after they have completed their download. ...
 
Very true, but a far more important security step IS to obtain valid 
signature/hash value
from the publisher of the file, and then to calculate the signature/hash of the 
downloaded file.
Doing so reveals both that you have the original file, and that your download 
was
complete. It helps ensure that you do not have malware but also that your 
installation
attempts are problem free.
 

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Working on an archive site/pages for LOand the DVD

2011-10-10 Thread V Stuart Foote
On Monday, October 10, 2011 10:57 AM webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions [mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] responded:

OK, I never really saw that check box before. And what is that ... 
after the md5sum mean?

There are other formats, MD5 (Message Digest v5) is just one of numerous
cryptographic hash functions ( see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function ) that can be
used to calculate a unique signature for a file.  The Document
Foundation uses the MirrorBrain FOSS Download Director to manage
download content including provision of several common cryptographic
hash values (MD5, SHA-1, SHA-256) for each datafile.

If you check the box and then use the Other way to download 
LibreOffice, the productivity suite, how do you use the md5sum files?

How do you deal with these md5sum files to determine if your download 
file is proper?  What is the process?  If I knew about that, I may 
have looked into those files before.

Usage is pretty simple, you don't need to install anything--you just
compare the HASH value listed against the calculated HASH value of the
file downloaded.

Unix and Linux have built in commands either digest -a
md5|sha1|sha256, md5sum, sha1sum or sha256sum--one of them will
be there as needed.

There are similar utilities for windows command line, but Microsoft
doesn't provide one with the OS. Simple web search will give you
multiple choices.

But, I actually prefer to install a GUI helper utility for working with
the HASH values, and I find the Hash  CRC freeware from febooti meets
our needs found here (
http://www.febooti.com/products/filetweak/members/hash-and-crc/ ).

Once installed, the utility extends the Windows shell and provides a
Hash / CRC on the file properties tab. You check the Hash type you
need to calculate and apply. The resulting Hash is then compared against
the Hash you made note of--or have open in the download Web page.

The problem for me is I never have seen a way to generate a md5sum file

for files I created.  I never downloaded those files before either.  It

is just one more thing to download, if I had that option.

Use the Unix/Linux command line or one of the Windows utilities allows
to calculate the HASH value, then post it with a label as to which HASH
it is, be used when distributing the datafile.

Can I download both for each install and list them on my site? ...

Each datafile being served for download (or simply being exchanged)
should be provided with its unique HASH value in one of the common
formats. Doing so is just good security and distribution practice.

Regards,

Stuart 


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: cut/paste removes and renamesprotected field references - is this a bug?

2011-10-14 Thread V Stuart Foote
Cor,
 
Ouch!   Too harsh, take it down a notch...
 
Stuart



From: Cor Nouws [mailto:oo...@nouenoff.nl]
Sent: Fri 10/14/2011 11:09 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
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renamesprotected field references - is this a bug?



Hi Brain,

Brian J. wrote (14-10-11 18:01)

 Tom wrote:
 [..]
 You sir, are a genius.  Thank you, that did exactly what I needed.

The part you quoted, was from
   From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com

I am not sure if Tom deserves it to be mentioned a genius - he seems not
to able to manage his reply-to-settings in such a way, that it does not
confuse you or others. Alas.

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Where is Find? (Writer 3.4.3)

2011-10-14 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jerry,
 
Looks to be functional, but is state full in Windows 7, so it could be undocked 
somewhere in your UI that you can see as Cor suggests.
 
Use the View -- Toolbars -- Find menu to toggle the Find box On. 
 
Then grab any toolbar and drag it to undock -- open the tool menu (down 
triangle) and select Dock ALL Toolbars.
 
That should return the active Find toolbar to its default docked location and 
allow Ctl+F activation.
 
Stuart
 
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Systems Analyst 
College of Sciences 
The University of Texas at San Antonio 
 
(210) 458-4962 
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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Where is Find? (Writer 3.4.3)



I just updated to LO 3.4.3 in a Windows 7 laptop.

[ctrl]+F used to bring up Find but now it doesn't.

Checked keyboard shortcuts and it shows [ctrl]+F is 'find' for LO but
is blank for Writer.

Also menu selections editFind  or editFind and Replace show
keyboard shortcuts but don't work either.  But the binocular icon on
the toolbar does work.

How do I get the keyboard shortcuts to work?

Jerry

PS: I know this was discussed before but couldn't find a search
function on the archive page!
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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Documents Not Opening On External Drive

2011-10-24 Thread V Stuart Foote
Fellows, 

I think you're mixing apples and oranges.  Yogi's problem has nothing to
do with his DHCP service and is unlikely to be a router issue.

SMB (Server Message Block) and CIFS (Common Internet Files System) are
the same Microsoft controlled specifications. 

As a practical matter affecting LibreOffice use, what is variable is the
OS hosting and the implementation of the network file system resource.
CIFS is the native Windows flavor (slight differences each release from
Windows NT to Windows Server 2008 R2) while SAMBA is the reverse
engineered FOSS implementation of SMB/CIFS (again differences with each
implementation of Server or NAS operating system).

The question earlier and examples of problems Alex referenced were
mostly related to file locking issues on SAMBA implementations (on
multiple *nix flavors). I think there was an NFS locking issue as well.
Several referenced running the SAMBA instance with the -NORBL flag (No
Record Blocking) as a work around.

So the question to be answered by Yogi might be: what is the OS base of
your NAS--Windows (native CIFS and few issues) or a *nix hosted SAMBA?
And, what release for the service/daemon? Also, for the problem data, is
the partition mount set read/write in the related share configuration or
smb.conf and how is the lock mechanism handled.  Providing those details
and perhaps other about the NAS server, coupled with details on the
client experiencing access or stability issues would be more likely to
provide useful response and dialog.

Regards,

Stuart


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Systems Analyst
Geological Sciences
The University of Texas at San Antonio




-Original Message-
From: Yogi [mailto:bar...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:21 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Documents Not Opening On External
Drive



Tom wrote:
 
 Hi :)
 Ahah, i was wondering what happens if you copy the files that don't
work
 from the NAS back onto the machine you are using?  Do they work when
they
 are back on your machine?  - using the NAS as back-up and storage but
not
 for working on files actively?
 
 I don't know if there is a Windows command or something that would
 identify whether you are using cifs or smb or something else.  It's
 vaguely possible that by knowing the model of the router we might be
able
 to find out what it's defaults are but i'm not sure i would want to
state
 that sort of thing this publicly.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 

Tom: The files that do not open on the NAS work fine when I copy them
back
to the Windows desktop.  You are correct in that the NAS is simply
being
used for backup, although it does have capability to do a lot more.  

I don't see a problem with an open discussion about how to find out
what
protocol is being used by default.  I would think that should be common
knowledge, but apparently it's not.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Documents Not Opening On External Drive

2011-10-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
==Posted from the Nabble Web Interface==

Yogi,

So reading into it, your Synology DS109 should be a Linux 2.6. based kernel.
Your Windows shares are coming to you from the NAS as SMB/CIFS from a
Samba 3.2.x package under Linux.

So you are going to be subject to some of the file locking issues mentioned.

It looks like there have been a number of upgrades to the NAS's OS and
firmware, I'd go ahead and login to it and perform the upgrade to the latest
OS release Disk Station Manager 3.2 (
http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=27t=41034 ).

Synology's Linux OS implementation provides a command line interface. The
configuration files for the SAMBA service can be directly edited (
http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_add_additional_directories )
to accomodate account permissions and file/record locking needed to make
content of the SMB/CIFS shares  fully editible from Windows 7. 

In addition to the Synology provided OS updates, there is a robust community
of modders that actively integrate FOSS packages into the Synology Disk
Station Manager NAS environment.

Suggest you'll do well to do some reading in the Synology forums. You might
be interested in the iSCSI support as an alternative to SMB/CIFS.

Regards, 
 
Stuart

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Documents Not Opening On External Drive

2011-10-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
Yogi,

Glad you got it sorted.

However, I am very concerned that it takes a System Analyst to
understand
why a very elementary task cannot be performed.  The average
LibreOffice
user is only interested in having the application work...

I would not say the skill set needed is average, but in choosing to
operate a NAS, the configuration is just a bit more challenging and so
demands a bit more sophistication on a users part. 

As the adage holds--to get the most from any resource, one should invest
some time in studying its capabilities.

Warm regards,

Stuart


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process

2011-11-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
Michael,
 
Actually, Tom's suggestion would be my first as well. Can't tell you how many 
times folks have sworn they have a valid download of an install package--only 
to find they don't when they actually check it.
 
You're HASH values are correct.
 
Next step would be as Jay suggested to run a conservative registry cleaner and 
continuity checker, like CCleaner, or a more aggressive removal tool like  
Revo-Uninstaller.
 
I know it is a new load for you, but you've had a couple of attempts now.
 
I had a similar experiences on upgrade to 3.4.2 following uninstall 3.4.1 
without clean-up between.
 
Stuart



From: Michael Bauer [mailto:f...@akerbeltz.org]
Sent: Fri 11/25/2011 1:23 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process



Hi Tom,

On Windows, you got to be kidding! ;) Bitser says
Checksums for: LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
MD5: c58ad36704e27d6b603d12aa9cebb910
SHA-1: 0898a91d560904454a07cf5e089ed65c828bfe08
SHA-256: f60dd94c317e86dc7df12a5d1ad724a35dcae2d76c6b7e29196c19b46033b53f

And yes, I'm admin, been installing software all afternoon.

Salude

Michael

25/11/2011 18:37, sgrìobh Tom Davies:
 Hi:)
 Have you used md5sum or SHA to check the download?  Are you sure you have 
 administrator privileges on your machine when you try installing?
 Regards from
 Tom:)


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process

2011-11-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
Michael,
 
See if this helps...
 
UAC under Windows 7 can bite you at strange times.  So one of the first things 
I do on a new Windows 7 install is to activate the true Administrator account:
 
launch a command window Run as Administrator and enter
 
net user Administrator /Active:yes
 
(note capital A's and single space before slash)
 
then run lusrmgr.msc and set a password for the now active Administrator 
account.
 
Log off and onto the Administrator account and try your installation there, 
move you day-to-day account out of the Administrators group keeping just the 
Administrator for installs and sysadmin.
 
Stuart



From: Michael Bauer [mailto:f...@akerbeltz.org]
Sent: Fri 11/25/2011 3:29 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer stalls after C++ process



Hi again
 Is there an older LO or OOo edition on the machine previously? I have
 seen some reports the Windows uninstaller may leave behind debris that
 confuses the installer.
Hardly, since I only bought the system at lunchtime ;)

25/11/2011 20:50, sgrìobh V Stuart Foote:
 Next step would be as Jay suggested to run a conservative registry cleaner 
 and continuity checker, like CCleaner, or a more aggressive removal tool like 
  Revo-Uninstaller.

 I know it is a new load for you, but you've had a couple of attempts now.

 I had a similar experiences on upgrade to 3.4.2 following uninstall 3.4.1 
 without clean-up between.
Done, there was nothing that looked LO related but I told CC to clean up
anyway, problem persists. o.O

Michael


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Installation problem with LibreOffice 3.5

2012-02-16 Thread V Stuart Foote

Open windows registry editor (regedit.exe) from an elevated command
prompt (run as administrator) and set a RegistrySizeLimit value in the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control key.

Set RegistrySizeLimit (DWORD 32) to Hex  (8 - fs), close
registry, reboot.  Should clear the Error 1935 condition. 

Also worth the effort to verify the HASH value of your downloaded
installer. Use the Get details (md5sum, ...) check box on the download
page and open the mirror list for the MirrorBrain hash values.

Stuart

-Original Message-
From: John Beetham [mailto:empido...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:10 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Installation problem with LibreOffice 3.5

When I try to install the latest version of LibreOffice in Windows Vista
(LibO_3.5.0_Win_x86_install_multi.msi) I get the following error message
near the end of the installation process:

Error 1935. An error occurred during installation of assembly
'policy.9.0.Microsoft.VC90.CRT,publicKeyToken=1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b,version
=9.0.30729.6161,processorArchitecture=x86,type=win32-policy.
Please ref... [the rest is cut off in the error window]

Is there anything I can do to avoid getting this error and install LO
3.5 properly?

John Beetham

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-16 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

It is buried down in the Dev list, but the LibO BASE JDBC performance issues 
with the Java JRE are fixed by changes to the JDBC driver to reduce JNI 
Attach/DetachThread cycles, the 35023 bug 
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35023 ) is closed.

We should no longer be pusing the JRE 1.6u21--current JRE 1.6u31 or 1.7u3 are 
fully acceptable.

Look elseware for the issue with spell check.

Stuart

-Original Message-
From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:16 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

Hi :)
Hmm, weird.  Perhaps it's too high a version of java?  Is it using a more 
recent version than 6u21?
Regards from
Tom :)




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-17 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

No. You've misunderstood the whole Java JRE and BASE HSQLDB performance issue. 
Problem is not and never was with the Sun/Oracle Java JRE. The past problem 
with LibO and OOo HSQLDB performance was with process thread creation in the 
LibO/OOo JDBC interface.

The dev patch (by Stephen Bergmann) for Bug 35023 Base functions extremely 
slowly with Java 1.6.0_20 and 1.6.0_24 has been applied to the 3.5.0 core, 
and may make it into 3.4.6; but use of a 1.6u21 JRE was only a work around for 
LibO's BASE native HSQLDB 1.8 performance issues as that version of the JRE 
handled needed threads differently. 

Use of Java JRE 1.7 (with Oracle Corp ownership strings) was back ported to 
3.4.5--so no issue there. Look for issues with spell check elsewhere.

Stuart 

-Original Message-
From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:05 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

Hi :)
I know LibreOffice 3.5.0 can use java 1.7 but i doubt that has been back-ported 
to all other releases that people are using out there.  Java is going to be a 
problem until we can get rid of any dependence on it completely.  It's not our 
devs fault that Oracle can't write something that isn't broken and vulnerable 
before Oracle release it. Regards from Tom :)


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From: V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 17 February, 2012, 1:47

Tom,

It is buried down in the Dev list, but the LibO BASE JDBC performance issues 
with the Java JRE are fixed by changes to the JDBC driver to reduce JNI 
Attach/DetachThread cycles, the 35023 bug 
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35023 ) is closed.

We should no longer be pusing the JRE 1.6u21--current JRE 1.6u31 or 1.7u3 are 
fully acceptable.

Look elseware for the issue with spell check.

Stuart



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to install LibreOffice 3.5.0 viaGPO

2012-02-20 Thread V Stuart Foote
Andreas,
 
Cor, recalled correctly. Bug ID was 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45068 cancelled found to be 
duplicate of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36677  which at the 
moment is marked fixed. But probably should not be.
 
Suggest you plug yourself into the 36677 reviewing the other posts, and reopen 
with your details.
 
Stuart
 



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Sent: Mon 2/20/2012 9:39 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to install LibreOffice 3.5.0 viaGPO



Hi Andreas,

Andreas Oster wrote (17-02-12 08:59)
 does nobody face the GPO install issue ?

IIRC, there is an issue listed for it in this one
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37361

So maybe you can help with additional info?

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to install LibreOffice 3.5.0 viaGPO

2012-02-20 Thread V Stuart Foote
Andreas,
 
Actually, it looks like https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45750 
might be the closer issue, but it also is marked closed.  A viable workaround 
is provided by the developer-- Andras Timar, who suggests a simple edit of the 
3.5.0 installer with Microsoft's ORCA editor. 
 
Again have a close read, and consider plugging in there or going with the work 
around.
 
Stuart
 
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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to install LibreOffice 3.5.0 viaGPO

Andreas,

Cor, recalled correctly. Bug ID was 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45068 cancelled found to be 
duplicate of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36677  which at the 
moment is marked fixed. But probably should not be.

Suggest you plug yourself into the 36677 reviewing the other posts, and reopen 
with your details.

Stuart




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top posting

2012-02-23 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,
 
As a fellow users list taking content in my email stream, I have no issue 
with your chosen style of participation and with rare exception find your 
comments germane and correct--which is my metric for viable contribution. 
You're doing just fine.
 
However--when replying--could you take just a moment longer and trim your 
reply.  That simple action greatly improves the flow of the thread whether in 
a reader, in a mail tool (Outlook), or from the Nabble interface.
 
Suspect that would lessen the ire of the pontiffs of newsgroup style lurking in 
the forum.
 
Warm regards,
 
Stuart



From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Thu 2/23/2012 10:39 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top posting



Hi :)
+1
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Marc Grober m...@interak.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top posting
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 23 February, 2012, 15:17

It would appear that true professionals should, as I think Tom has suggested, 
consider the actual guidelines as opposed to pontificating upon them as if they 
were running a gulag

Hail and farewell



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top posting

2012-02-23 Thread V Stuart Foote
OK, so who remembers what the original issue was? And for that there is the 
Document Foundation lists Nabble archive--where you can take your pick of 
layout.
 
Threaded
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Top-posting-tt3767551.html#none

List
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Top-posting-tc3767551.html

or Nabble classic
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Top-posting-td3767551.html#none

Folks, we've come a long way from usenet list posting and terminal based 
readers--but threaded lists do continue to have a place in efficient exchange 
of information.  More modern collaborative tools remove the infrastructure 
issues that bottom or in-line posting styles evloved to address.  Review the 
above presentations for function, and decide for yourselves--style is less an 
issue that content.

Not to say Tom doesn't have content issues occasionally--but don't we all. And 
for the curious Charles originally gigg'd Tom for going off topic bringing up 
Base and Writer and Calc, on a thread dealing with Power Point handling in 
LibreOffice vs. OpenOffice Impress, and flamed him over his top-posting style.


Stuart



From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Thu 2/23/2012 1:11 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top posting



Hi :)
With that trimming you will never know the answer to the question because it is 
out of context and forces anyone trying to answer to dig up the email where it 
first appeared.  Almost never worth the effort.  At best something to leave 
until later, with 'later' becoming never. 
Regards from
Tom :)


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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top posting
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 23 February, 2012, 18:55

On 23/02/2012 17:39, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 +1
+1 to what?



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to install LibreOffice 3.5.0 viaGPO

2012-02-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
--- On Fri, 2/24/2012, Tom Davies  tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Fri 2/24/2012 12:22 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to install LibreOffice 3.5.0 viaGPO

Hi :)
Has anyone been able to help with this yet?  Does anyone know good answers?  
This is about corporate deployment right?  There is an
 excellent wiki in the OpenOffice wiki and presumably it's still good for 
 LibreOffice? 

Sorry i have lost track of it again
Apols and regards from
Tom :)

The Bugzilla report https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45750  fully 
addresses issue, have a read. Andreas was referred there for a work around with 
the 3.5.0 Windows installer which has issues dealing with language codes for 
not present languages. He's not posted back so assume he's resolved things.
 
Also, per the Bug report, the DEV maintainer will be patching Windows builds 
for issues caused by packaging changes with the Windows installer. At 3.5.0 
deployment now use a single Microsoft Installer packaging (.MSI) rather than a 
two stage executable (.EXE). 
 
I'd expect the patch should address needs of volume deployments from 
administrative installs using GPO from SCCM or similar management environments.
 
Stuart
 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Can't install LO 3.5 Windows

2012-02-26 Thread V Stuart Foote
Likely a problem with download of the ~201MB installation package.

On the download page there is an Info link that if opened in another tab
presents you a set of HASH values and recommended (by proximity) download
mirrors to use for your transfer.  This content is managed by The
DocumentFoundation mirroring service provided by the MirrorBrain project.

The MD5, SHA1, SHA256 values listed are each calculated digests or HASH
values but each uses a specific algorithm. 
To validate against any of the digest HASH values listed you will need a
digest validation tool for that algorithm.

OpenSSL openssl dgst [md5, sha1, sha256] commands would be the standard on
Linux and is also available on Unix.  And there are a mix of GUI or command
line tools for Windows. There are also browser add-ons, but I find them
cumbersome. 

My personal preference for MS Windows is the freeware Hash  CRC utility
from febooti software.
http://www.febooti.com/products/filetweak/members/hash-and-crc/  It
integrates into the Windows shell, and is called by selecting the properties
value from the context menu (rightmouse button).  While it requires
installation, it encourages more routine use of digest verification as you
create, exchange or download files.

Post back if after validating the HASH you find your download was not the
issue.

Stuart  




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Can't install LO 3.5 Windows

2012-02-26 Thread V Stuart Foote

Luuk wrote
 
On 26-02-2012 14:32, Tom Davies wrote:
 I'm not sure how to find the md5sum to check the download with 
 
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html
 

That Open Office link is kind of defunct  Original: Simon Brouwer
(2003-11). Revised: Ant Bryan (2006-02).  
Probably not the best tools or guidance to have folks follow given shift
from MD5 to SHA1 to SHA256 as preferred digest.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash

2012-04-09 Thread V Stuart Foote

e-letter wrote
 
 On 08/04/2012, Jonathan Schultz lt;jonathan@gt; wrote:
 Unfortunately I'm still not out of the woods.

 The TDF version of LibreOffice isn't detected by bibus. Which means no
 bibliography, which is pretty much a deal-breaker.

 
 To create documents with a bibliography, LyX/LaTeX and BibTeX is
 _significantly_ better than any word-processor.
 
 

Yes, LyX and BibTeX are very useful LaTex based layout and typesetting
utilities, but depend on auxiliary and style files--external to the text and
markup otherwise performed in a text editor or word processor. Excellent
results, but challenging to master.

In line citation management WYSIWYG function of commercial products (e.g.
EndNote or Scholars Aid) or open source projects like  Bibus or Zotero meet
the majority of use cases with integration into the common word processors
(MS Word, OO Writer, LibO Writer).

Regards OP's failures with  Bibus - IIRC, it has PyUno Python, wxpython and
wxWidgets version dependencies for use with OpenOffice/LibreOffice Writer,
and it looks as if its development has stalled (last release v1.5 in Oct.
2009).  Resolving problems with current OO/LibO releases may require a
refresh or rebuild of the Bibus extension.

Perhaps review functionality of Zotero as a currently maintained alternative
to Bibus that will function with current OO/LibO releases?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: PLEASE ban this spammer! - NO

2012-04-09 Thread V Stuart Foote
Humm, Andreas That is UNFAIR!

Why do you consider Tom's posts on MariaDB as Spam?

There is nothing indiscriminate about his postings. He's very clear about
what he is posting and why. While they could be trimmed down a bit they are
applicable as an alternative to a great number of LibreOffice users using an
external DBMS.
 
If you don't find his contributions applicable to your situation--don't read
them.  But, they're not SPAM!

Grow up!

Stuart




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Want to convert doc into ps format programatically

2012-04-24 Thread V Stuart Foote
For Postscript or PDF formatting, believe the heavy lifting within
LibreOffice (or OpenOffice) are filters that pass the document through
embedded routines from the Pango and Cairo open source projects.

http:// http://cairographics.org http://cairographics.org Start there.

You will still need to study how LibreOffice applies filters to pass writer
.ODT files (and other document formats) through the filter for conversion to
the target format.

Good luck.



 

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RE: [libreoffice-users] inferior jre error message -- assigned to Bug ID 46114

2012-05-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jude,
 
Can confirm your issue after installing NVDA, while running LibreOffice 
3.5.4rc2.
 
The NVDA screen reader functions as expected, but when working in LibreOffice, 
NVDA cursor controls are not correct.  Attempting to activate the accessibility 
support from Tools -- Options -- Accessibility checkbox results in 
LibreOffice message that LibreOffice 3.5 requires Java Access Bridge 1.0.3 or 
later version to support accessibility.
 
Installation of the current Java Access Bridge 2.0.2 according to the manual 
installation instructions: 
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/accessbridge/2.0.2/setup.htm and subsequent 
attempt to activate Accessibility support causes LibreOffice to crash.
 
There were two on topic Bugzilla reports, 46114 ( 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46114 ) and 46422 which I've 
marked as duplicate. And related bugs 39803 - Make Libreoffice accessible by 
default, and 39956 - Implement the IAccessible2 accessibility API 
[accessibility] that should probably be followed.  Several developers are 
already looking at this important issue--will need encouragement from the user 
community.
 
Stuart
 


From: Jude DaShiell [mailto:jdash...@shellworld.net]
Sent: Mon 5/28/2012 7:10 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] inferior jre error message



has already come up in connection with jre-1.7.4 in libreoffice-3.4.4
libreoffice-3.5.2 and libreoffice-3.5.3 on a Dell computer when
libreoffice was started and I typed alt-t followed by o followed by a
followed by tab followed by space followed by enter.  This in theory is
supposed to support assistive technology and has for other nvda users but
failed for me on a windows7 box with the already-mentioned version of jre
as well as both javaaccessbridge-2.01 and javaaccessbridge-2.02 not at the
same time and a registry patch that enabled other nvda users to get it all
working. 

When the error happened in libreoffice-3.4.4 the wording was a little
different stating that my jre was defective.  In the middle of all of
these processes out of desperation I uninstalled all jre's from my
windows7 box and reinstalled the current jre since other readers of
nvda-support email list thought two jre's could be confusing libreoffice
and javaacessbridge.  That did not help either.  After this, it'll either
be lotus symphony or gag Microsoft office I'm using.



 Jude
jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net
http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html




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[libreoffice-users] Re: inferior jre error message

2012-06-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jude,

Would you please try an installation of the Java Access Bridge 2.0.2 using
the JWin installer by Jamal Mazrui and report back if you have assistive
technology in general  and in particular if NVDA is functioning as you'd
expect.

Program download link is here --  http://EmpowermentZone.com/JWin_setup.exe
--

Additional information about the project here -- 
http://empowermentzone.com/JWin.htm -- but basically this installer
automates installation and configuration of the Java Access Bridge and
correctly configures the Java Runtime to work with it.  The manual
installation of JAB and configuring the JRE for use is daunting,  even for
the sighted--I certainly seemed to have problems.

Use of this installer should eliminate that aspect of non-functioning
Accessibility Tools in LibreOffice 3.5.x, and so would allow us to
concentrate on any actual issues with LibreOffice.

Thank you.

Stuart






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[libreoffice-users] Re: Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?

2012-06-03 Thread V Stuart Foote

Jude DaShiell wrote
 
 No.  Not ready for Government academic or business users.  What's worse, 
 the accessibility problems inferior jre with windows registry patch 
 merged didn't start in libreoffice at all.  Those same problems exist in 
 openoffice 3.45 which I think is its current version.  Something or 
 somethings were broken before the import or copy over of code from 
 openoffice to libreoffice.  The accessibility problems put libreoffice 
 in a Section 508 violation situation.
 

Jude,

Please review request for feedback on your  Windows Java Access Bridge 2.0.2
installation from your original thread titled inferior jre error message.  

We've closed the 46114 Bug as NotABug--but if you really are still having
issues this needs attention and we need your assistance in testing
Accessibility support.

Regards,

Stuart


V Stuart Foote wrote
 
 Re: inferior jre error message
 Jun 01, 2012; 3:06pm — by V Stuart Foote
 Jude,
 
 Would you please try an installation of the Java Access Bridge 2.0.2 using
 the JWin installer by Jamal Mazrui and report back if you have assistive
 technology in general  and in particular if NVDA is functioning as you'd
 expect.
 
 Program download link is here -- 
 http://EmpowermentZone.com/JWin_setup.exe --
 
 Additional information about the project here -- 
 http://empowermentzone.com/JWin.htm -- but basically this installer
 automates installation and configuration of the Java Access Bridge and
 correctly configures the Java Runtime to work with it.  The manual
 installation of JAB and configuring the JRE for use is daunting,  even for
 the sighted--I certainly seemed to have problems.
 
 Use of this installer should eliminate that aspect of non-functioning
 Accessibility Tools in LibreOffice 3.5.x, and so would allow us to
 concentrate on any actual issues with LibreOffice.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Stuart
 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: inferior jre error message

2012-06-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jude,

Sorry, didn't catch this the first time through your posting. Please double
check your entrance sequence to use Accessibility Tools in Libre Office:

The sequence you list would put you in the Appearance panel, not the
Accessibility panel--need to enter a second a

altt  --  Tools
alto -- Options
a --  for the Appearance panel
a -- for the Accessibility panel
tab  -- enter accessibility  panel, positioned on the Support Assistive
Technology Tools (program restart required)
space -- space bar to toggle on or toggle off

Stuart


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[libreoffice-users] Re: inferior jre error message

2012-06-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jude,

Please uninstall your Java Runtime and Java Access Bridge--and run the JWin
utility to install a JRE then correctly configure Java Access Bridge. It
doesn't do anything that can't be done by hand, but the manual set up is
error prone. Please get JAB configured correctly and then let us know about
activating LibreOffice Accessibility Tools and  using NVDA.

Also,  the Windows Registry configuration file that the NVDA project offers 
OpenOffice_EnableAssistiveTechnologySupport.reg is defunct.  It has no
effect on a LibreOffice installation since the registry keys in the .reg
file DO NOT EXIST with a LibreOffice installation--the code is there, but it
is orphaned when LibreOffice is built.

The setting for enabling or disabling the GUI in LibreOffice is recorded to
an XML based file registrymodifications.xcu in each users %APPDATA%
folder, on Windows 7 that would be

C:\Users\you user
name\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\3\user\registrymodifications.xcu

The stanza to toggle the default from false to true is:
 item
oor:path=/org.openoffice.VCL/Settings/org.openoffice.VCL:ConfigurableSettings['Accessibility']
prop oor:name=EnableATToolSupport oor:op=fuse
oor:type=xs:stringvaluefalse/value/prop
/item

It would be a challenge to use the .xcu file to toggle AT on/off--but that
is the current state of things with LibreOffice.  

So unfortunately you will need to use the AltT, ALTO, A, A, TAB,
Space to perform the configuration--but with a valid JRE and JAB the
Assistive Technology tools should be functional for you.

Stuart

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[libreoffice-users] Re: inferior jre error message

2012-06-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jude,

I understood you the first time.

But please uninstall your JRE's  and then use the JWin installer to preform
the JRE and JAB 2.0.2 reinstall. It really does perform a correct
installation of the JAB--you need to ensure that is done correctly before
you will be able to work with LibreOffice (or any other program using a Java
runtime based accessibility tool). 

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: libreoffice 3.5 inaccessible

2012-06-04 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jude,

Thank you for working through this.

Next we need to check if you have enabled a Java for your LibreOffice
install.

Same process as toggling Accessibility Tools, enter:

altt  -- tools
alto -- options
j  -- for Java settings
tab -- to move to Use a Java runtime environment checkbox
space -- to toggle on of off

You should have just one Java JRE entry listed  having done removal and
reinstall.   The Java entry should read with accessibility support under
the Features column.

If more than one is still listed--be sure to select the newest that lists
with accessibility support.

Stuart

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Nvda versus Dolphin, was: Does Java Access Bridge Work in 3.5.4?

2012-06-05 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

If you must cross post like this why not just provide the Nabble html link
to the entire thread?  Perhaps with some comment of why it should be of
interest to users.

There was quite a bit going on with this and a couple of other threads
including a full on  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46114 Bug
46114  related to  OPs question, and another active thread 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/inferior-jre-error-message-tt3986368.html
inferior jre error message .

All pretty much resolved that the JRE and Java Access Bridge are working
well with all the screen readers if the JAB is installed correctly, so not
clear why you've broght it back over to the Users mailing list?

Stuart

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[libreoffice-users] Re: libreoffice 3.5 inaccessible

2012-06-05 Thread V Stuart Foote
Andreas,


Andreas Säger wrote
 
 We do not know the system yet. In case of Windows x64 Jude has to 
 install a 32 bit version of Java 6 (current version number 1.6.0_32).
 Such a version can be downloaded from 
 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u32-downloads-1594646.html
 Accept license and download jre-6u32-windows-i586.exe
 

Huh?  Are you and Jude off list in discussion?  Otherwise the current for
Windows x64,  or  i586,  is jre-7u4 and Jude already indicated he was on a
jre-7 release.

My instructions to remove all JRE, perform JWin based JRE and JAB 2.0.2
install, and lastly to clear user profile would seem to be most efficient
way to bring Jude functional given that all other users have functional JRE,
JAB and screen readers (NVDA, JAWS, and Dolphin) under LO 3.5.4

Other opinions?

Stuart

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: libreoffice 3.5 inaccessible

2012-06-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
Eric,

If your speech recognition driver is a Java component serviced by the
Oracle Java Access Bridge Jamal Mazrui's JWin installer process will
correctly handle registration of both 32-bit and 64-bit JAB JAR
packages.

Download here: http://empowermentzone.com/JWin_setup.exe
With additional details found here http://empowermentzone.com/JWin.htm

As to effective use with LibreOffice 3.5.x Assistive Technologies which
are 32-bit programs, I currently don't know. But you will have to enable
Java support along with the Java based Assitive Technologies from the
Tools -- Options menus.

If you need us to poke around with it, let us know what speech
recognition package you are using, is it an open source project,
freeware or commercial product?

Stuart


-Original Message-
From: Eric S. Johansson [mailto:e...@harvee.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:19 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: libreoffice 3.5 inaccessible

On 6/6/2012 12:36 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 Okay, for the record this is a 32-bit windows7 system with only jre7 
 current  version installed.

Sorry about being late to the thread but I'm having a similar problem. I
need accessibility features in LO except mine are speech recognition
driven. 
Completely the opposite of the blind user. :-)

I want to install the bridge but I discovered that it looks like I have
a 32-bit Java and I'm running on a 64-bit machine (Windows 7
professional). What's the appropriate thing to do?

Thanks a bunch for any help.

--- eric

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RE: [libreoffice-users] why libreoffice is inaccessible

2012-06-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jude,

The .xcu file won't have line numbers as it is program generated configuration 
file of generated XML--stanzas are all run together. 

Notepad may not be the best editor to use since you'll need to navigate the XML 
structure with field searches.

I prefer the vim based gvim program with an XML filetype enabled, but I just 
did a quick  web search and  users are complaining that NVDA is not able to 
gain cursor focus. Alternatives mentioned as working (JAWS and NVDA) are 
Eclipse and Emacs but both requiring additional configuration.

You might try the Microsoft XML Notepad 2007 for use with NVDA -- found here:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7973 

I'm away from my systems on vacation for the week, so appologize that I can't 
be of much assistance in pinning this down. By the way have you been able to 
activate NVDA reading in LibreOffice 3.5.x with JAB 2.0.2 and JRE- 7u4?

Stuart



From: Jude DaShiell [mailto:jdash...@shellworld.net]
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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] why libreoffice is inaccessible



C:\Users\your user
name\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\3\user\config\registrymodifications.xcu
file in the

item
oor:path=/org.openoffice.VCL/Settings/org.openoffice.VCL:ConfigurableSettings['Accessibility']prop
oor:name=EnableATToolSupport oor:op=fuse
oor:type=xs:stringvaluefalse/value/prop/item  stanza.

stanza so far as I was able to discover with notepad is missing from the
file mentioned above or at least that's the way it appears over here.  If
anyone could look at that file and send me a starting and ending line
number where they find it that would be another way for me to check and
see if I missed anything.  Accessibility stuff appears to be in the top of
that xcu file or near the top but we may have more than one section of it
in that file.





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RE: [libreoffice-users] why libreoffice is inaccessible

2012-06-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
Great question!
 
Unfortunately I'm away from the office so don't have a Linux box to poke around 
in.  
 
But, from its name would expect the registrymodifications.xcu to be unique to 
the Windows installation and set up by the Microsoft package installer that 
Andras Timar builds. 
 
Would have to poke through that with the Microsoft ORCA package editor to be 
certain. 
 
And of course on GNOME based Linux desktops, your screen reader would be 
Orca--not related, or possibly the Gnopernicus package. Would have to look at 
configuration of those.
 
Stuart
 



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I know that NVDA does not run on Ubuntu, but when I looked through the
LO folders, I could not find any file with the name you indicated.  Is
it a Win-only file or should a Linux version have the .xcu file as well?




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Will Libreoffice have a LESS BUG version in the future?

2014-06-22 Thread V Stuart Foote
Paul-6 wrote
 If you are more interested in stability and lack of bugs, OpenOffice is
 a better choice, as I understand they are more focused on bug hunting
 and not so much on new features.

Hmm..., not sure I'd agree with that at all.  The Apache OpenOffice project
is pushing out revisions as quickly as they are able.   And, being active in
both projects I can say that it is simply not true that Apache OpenOffice is
any more stable than LibreOffice. The Apache OpenOffice project has  its own
share of code quality and functional issues in existing code and in new
features that project devs wrangle with daily.

The development model differs considerably, but both projects have moved
forward substantial enhancements, many from Apache OpenOffice get routinely
incorporated into LibreOffice.  But less so going the other direction due to
Apache licensing restrictions.

Older releases of LibreOffice remain publicly available in the projects
archive server:
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/  so folks are
welcome to stay at a particular release level if they have specific issues.  
Developer support of these older releases has ceased, but it is not
inappropriate to raise enhancement or bug reports against old versions as
compared to builds in the current development cycle.

Regards OPs  request for Less Bug--i.e. less buggy releases, the only
way that happens is if we users participate during active development
periods--testing across the office suite, and raising valid issues as bugs,
and requesting valid enhancements for features not yet implemented or for
features that may have been removed or altered so as to be unusable.

We users should participate on either project, or both as our time and
interests permit.  But at the least we must  provide concise, actionable
feedback to other project participants.

So, please use an older release of either project if it meets your
needs--but please also make the effort to evaluate what continuing
development has delivered, both in function and in quality of the suites.
And then go ahead and participate.



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office 3.6.2.2 - downloads

2014-06-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
Charles,

Yes that is the preferred location for obtaining LibreOffice project archive 
builds.

Stuart

 -Original Message-
 From: charles meyer [mailto:reachmepl...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 5:11 PM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office 3.6.2.2 - downloads
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 I receive the digest of messages in the middle of the night so could
 you could please e-mail me privately as well as the list?
 
 I need to download the older version 3.6.2.2.
 
 Google revealed it was located here...
 
 http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/3.6.6.2/
 
 Is that the safest place to download it from?
 
 Once there do I download every file under every folder except for mac
 and portable to run it on an XP Pro PC as follows:
 
 Index of /libreoffice/old/3.6.6.2
   NameLast modified   SizeMetadata
   Parent Directory-
   box/20-Apr-2013 11:14   -
   deb/07-Apr-2013 14:12   -
   mac/05-Apr-2013 09:48   -
   portable/   05-Apr-2013 12:43   -
   rpm/07-Apr-2013 14:16   -
   src/05-Apr-2013 09:56   -
   win/05-Apr-2013 09:49   -
 Apache Server at downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org Port 80
 MirrorBrain powered by Apache
 
 Thanks so much.
 
 Charles.
 
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RE: [libreoffice-users] Pre- 4.1 versions

2014-06-29 Thread V Stuart Foote
Steve, *,

Once at EOL and off support the builds are removed from mirror network.

That means that as of this date your choices on mirror are:

4.2.5 on Fresh
4.1.6 on Stable
and 4.3.0 rc1 on Development.

When 4.3.0 is finalized 4.2.5/6 will roll to Stable, and 4.1.6 will be retired 
and no longer available from the mirror network.

Should you need any legacy releases they are archived on the LibreOffice 
development servers at:
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/  Of course these 
builds are past EOL and will receive no developer support should you choose 
to use any of them and experience issues. 

Stuart
 

From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:11 PM
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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Pre- 4.1 versions

Hi.
I must be going blind, but wondering how to navigate from the page
http://www.libreoffice.org to download the versions prior to stable.
Steve

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RE: [libreoffice-users] What version?

2014-08-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
No great mystery.

If they are more conservative--LibreOffice 4.2.6 is a solid build, somewhat 
lacking in the latest office features.
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-still/

If they have more tolerance for change, and accept the potential for some as 
yet undescribed bugs affecting use, then early adoption of the 4.3.0 branch is 
a reasonable choice.
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/

Both are good well tested software packages.


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 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] What version?
 
 I'm so confused by the multiple version that I have to ask.
 
 Several neighbors are eligible for me to install LibreOffice.
 
 One has Windows XP.
 One has Windows 7 and o9ne has Windows 8.
 One has Ubuntu and one has Linux Mint.
 Another has Red Hat and another has a Mac.
 
 What version shall I use for each?
 
 Thanks.
 
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RE: [libreoffice-users] What version?

2014-08-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
Pikov, *,

 -Original Message-
 From: Pikov Andropov [mailto:piko...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:31 PM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?
 
 V Stuart Foote wrote on 8/6/2014 6:34 PM:
  No great mystery.
 
  If they are more conservative--LibreOffice 4.2.6 is a solid build, somewhat
 lacking in the latest office features.
  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-still/
 
  If they have more tolerance for change, and accept the potential for some
 as yet undescribed bugs affecting use, then early adoption of the 4.3.0
 branch is a reasonable choice.
  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/
 
  Both are good well tested software packages.
 
 Interesting answer.
 
 I think you're saying that 4.2.6 is essentially bugfree, but 4.3.x is not.
 
 I suppose that an undescribed bug is one that the LO developers dd not
 discover during their testing, and that we users are the next test bed.
 I generally eschew programs with version numbers ending in 0, for that
 very reason.
 
 I just checked and I see that I have v4.0.1.2. Check for updates tells
 me that 4.2.5 (no typo!) is available for manual downloading. Where are
 4.2.6 and 4.3.0?
 

See the URLs provided, they will detect the browser language in use and offer 
that build of LibreOffice.

The rest of your comment is correct. No shame in avoiding the initial 4.3.0 or 
4.3.1 release,  but by the 4.3.2 release (week of Sep 22, 2014) as the 4.2.7 
release is finalized (4.2 branch EOL is 19 Nov) --all users should be 
considering a shift to the 4.3 branch by that point.   And then briefly remain 
on only the 4.3 branch until release of the initial 4.4.0 build (week of 26 
Jan, 2015)--which will  coincide with the 4.3.5 release. 

More details and rational for the time based release train are on the project 
wiki here:  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Plan


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Too much Politics?

2014-08-07 Thread V Stuart Foote
Jon, *,

Fortunately, there is a very effective filter.  Simply follow this forum on 
Nabble http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/
You'll still need to subscribe to actually use the listserv, but can choose 
what topics you actually want/need to read.

Stuart


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 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 12:40 PM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Too much Politics?
 
 The LO users mailing list is the only one I've ever encountered where
 people are MUCH more interested in debating Office politics and
 Administrivia than actual product features, bugs, workarounds etc.
 
 For the average user, the spectacle offered by this list can be pretty
 off-putting. Just saying...
 
 Jon
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Error at the time of auto saving process.

2014-08-20 Thread V Stuart Foote
Farhad, *,

There are several open issues in our Bugzilla related to this type of issue.

Notably  fdo#47148 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47148  
which is serving as a meta issue for the problems.

If you can precisely describe the steps to reproduce, and provide the sample
documents you are working with, that may help to move the issue
along--you'll need to create a Bugzilla account to submit.

Otherwise, your description now is missing some key details. For example,
which build of LibreOffice? Which component of LibreOffice  are your working
with--Draw or Writer.  Also, what format have you saved the document into
ODF (.odg or .odt) or OOXML (.docx)?  Those details and more will be needed
to fully describe--and to be able to reproduce--the issue you are reporting.

Regards,

Stuart





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Link to external data question

2014-08-22 Thread V Stuart Foote
Not sure about that. 

Have a look at comment #5 in  fdo#69320
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69320  

I followed along with that and was able to insert source link, and the
cell(s) receive the value(s)  from the external .CSV resource.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Data loss in Math in LO Writer: Some Formulas irrecoverably lost every now and then

2014-09-12 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom, *, of course there are alternatives among the LaTex  editors and Tex
renderings, but rather than sending Paul off on a wild goose chase, better
to ask him for the additional details we need triage his issue.

So, Paul--are you working natively only with ODF format in Writer .odt, and 
Math .odf components? 

Are you using a LibreOffice extension (TexMaths, or OOoLatex)  to manipulate
your formulas or just Math? If so, version?

Are you moving document round trip (export/reopen)  to OOXML?  

Are you making any use,  by import, of Microsoft formula originated
materials?

Stuart


TomD wrote
 Hi :)
 This is just in Math, nothing to do with Calc is it?
 
 I don't know what is causing it.  Is there an alternative such as using
 Scribus or LaTeX?  I think it's fairly easy to get LibreOffice to Save As
 ... into a format that Scribus can use easily but i don't know how
 difficult Scribus is to learn in a hurry.  I only gave it 2mins and that
 clearly wasn't enough, for me.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 On 12 September 2014 16:31, Paul O. Seidon lt;

 p.oseidon@

 gt; wrote:
 
 Hi all,


 every now and then some formulas get lost irrecoverably in my documents.
 Some boxes are empty then and a double-click into them opens the editor
 showing an empty pane.

 This behaviour is not reproducable and happens somewhere in my documents,
 not just where I edit it.

 This is really bad and I have to check the whole documents for lost
 formulas. Not a pleasure with dox having 200 pages and are steadily
 increasing in size. This is kind of a time bomb, where you never know
 when
 you get hit.

 Googling around revealed, that this must be an old bug, e.g.:
 http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/17773/formulas-
 disappearing-or-shrinking-in-lo-writer-documents/

 Yet, I didn't find an answer.

 Any idea?

 I'm on Linux: LO Writer Ver. 4.2.6.3 ArchLinux build-4





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Making horizontal lines in Writer

2014-09-24 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tim, *,

This is not a bug.  Horizontal lines in Writer are a direct paragraph style
assigning a bottom border for the paragraph.  

I would expect it to only be valid in ODF format--there is no reason to
expect LibreOffice ODF (.odt) style elements to be recognized by the export
filtering to generate OOXML (.docx) , or MS binary (.doc) formats.  Or for
the style to be recognized by Microsoft Word in their native ODF
form--although a few of the borders are. 

Writer (or rather the edit engine) provides a Tools -- AutoCorrect Options
-- Apply border check box to enable an autocorrect based short cut for
activating a bottom edge border of the current paragraph.  Essentially,
while completing a paragraph, the immediate entry of a triplet of: - (dash),  
_  (underscore),   =  (equal),  *  (asterisk)  ,  ~  (tilde) or  #  (hash) 
each will apply direct formatting creating a bottom edge border for the
paragraph.  Each triplet will generate a different line style.

The actual horizontal border, and its resulting line will vary depending on
the character set and OS, but then the paragraph can be otherwise styled to
control width and color or even  the line style from the Format --
Paragraph -- Borders panel in the Line section.

Try out triplets of the characters above, and then adjust the Paragraph
border.

And, for OP, as suggested the PDF is the best way to render LibreOffice
documents portable for non-users.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Ctrl+F4 Close document

2014-09-26 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Cley, *,

Cley Faye wrote
 The close document behavior you're noticing on windows is not linked to
 LibreOffice, but is a feature of the system. It just mean close the
 window, not the app and work everywhere. You can try it in most tabbed
 browser too :)

Sorry but that is not quite correct.  The Key mappings are actually
hard-coded in the vcl modules of LibreOffice core--see the source
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/source/window/keycod.cxx

On Windows the KEY_MOD1 is the Ctrl key, KEY_MOD2 is the Alt key, and I
beleive the Windows key is mapped to KEY_MOD3-- on OSX  I believe the
KEY_MOD1 is mapped to the Command key and KEY_MOD2 is mapped to Alt but
I'd have to check that.

So, the reason it is not available to customize in the  Writer  Tools --
Customize -- Keyboard is because the key combo is defined for the entire
LibreOffice application--they are reserved.   As can be seen in the source,
a CTRL+F4 or CTRL+W  will */Close/* the document.   While a ALT+F4 or
CTRL+Q will */Quit/* LibreOffice.

All that being said, the operating system may have other key-mappings in
place that can conflict or take precedence over LibreOffice mappings.  That
does happen on some of the Linux Desktop Environments and is likely what is
affecting Thomas.

Stuart







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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to handle regressions

2014-10-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Charles, *,

Tanstaafl wrote
 Not to mention this one:
 
 https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65205

fdo#65205 - Print Component fails to recognize 'Tabloid' as 11x17, uses
Letter instead

Yes, please don't mention that one  as it is NOT a regression.  It has never
been correct, i.e. inherited from OOo,  but that doesn't mean it is not
important.

Stuart





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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to handle regressions

2014-10-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Charles, *,

Please would you verify that Jan-Marek's  patch to Allow pasting into input
fields
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3f26ab24e0bfd27645c97ff7915fba2db409930a
  
(comment 13 on  fdo#76565
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=76565   ) fully
resolves the UX regression introduced with changes to the In-line fields.

Grab a build of master from
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@39/  and do an MSI
administrative install with modification of the bootstrap.ini file to run it
in parallel to your production build.  See these instructions:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

Then post a note to the fdo#76565 issue if all is good in resolving the
regression, and that a backport would be very helpful.  Or, if UX issue
remains--what still needs to be changed.

Simply done, and moves the process along.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to handle regressions

2014-10-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Tom D., Sophi, Charles H., Cor, *,

Please stop!  

Charles S. (aka Tanstaafl) has agreed to check out the function on master to
see if it has addressed the UX regression introduced with the new inline
field editing introduced at 4.2--when we have feed back we will revisit
fdo#76565 and requesting backport of the patch.

That was all that Werner and I had asked, and in my opinion the response we
were seeking.

The rest is just noise.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to handle regressions

2014-10-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Florian, *,

Please can we move on...  Charles S. (aka Tanstaafl) was given instructions
and has agreed to do what needs to be done and review the corrected function
for his use case with a current build of  master (4.4.0alpha0+)--and respond
in the  fdo#76565
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=76565   BZ issue
regards the UX regression.

Every thing else is just hubris or a poor understanding of the project's
timed release development flow.  Please let it go--most users on this ML
have NO interest in this thread other than the drama.

Stuart









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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to handle regressions

2014-10-02 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Paul, *,
This is a non-issue, please STOP.

 But,  just so it is clear in context Tanstaafl on this ML is the Charles in
fdo#76565 BZ  

Paul-6 wrote
 I may be wrong, but as far as I have understood from Tanstaafl's posts,
 there was no notice on the bug tracker that there was a test build
 claiming to fix this, or at least no notice to the people connected to
 the bug, at least until quite recently. If I'm wrong, then one can
 debate about why he didn't notice this earlier and test it and post
 back to the bug tracker so that the fix could be included in a release
 build. But if my understanding is correct, then there is almost no way
 that LO can claim they don't have egg on their face. Trying to divert
 attention off them by blaming Tanstaafl isn't making the egg go away.

Stuart

-=ref=-
https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=76565#c14



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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to handle regressions

2014-10-03 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Charles, *,

Tanstaafl wrote
 Also, I'm confused...
 
 Jan-Marek in the bug comment on August 17th - well before the 'Hard code
 freeze' on September 1st for 4.3.2 (released on Sept 22nd - said that
 the patch would show up in the daily builds after that.
 
 So, I'm not complaining, I'm just asking - can someone who understands
 the dev process explain why this fix did not make it into 4.3.2?

No worries, it can get a bit confusing about what commits are where and
when.  His would show up in the daily builds refereed only to master
branch.

To be clear,  in the normal flow of things,  majority of development is made
by commits onto the master branch. That includes new features, or UX/UI
tweaks or even patches to repair or revert regressions.  The in-line field
edits have been available for testing  in master since the commit in August.

So where it gets confusing is the master's relationship with prior releases. 
At present we have the 4.2 branch nearing its final bug-fix release and then
EOL a month later,  and the 4.3 branch with its third bug fix in the works.

While commits to master can and do break things, in order to keep the code
stable, patches committed to master require additional review and
deliberation before being back-ported to a prior branch.  As needed some
work will be done directly on the older branches--but most is integrated
into master first and ideally are fully tested there.

Some times if dealing with an obvious regression with simple correction, the
developer will put up the back-port for review immediately, but usually just
one release back. At times the issue has technical dependencies and requires
review and validation, and only then will the back-port be posted and again
reviewed before it is committed.

But occasionally the dev will simply overlook a good opportunity to resolve
an issue on branches other than master--which is understandable as most
developers are forward looking and framing the work to tackle the next
feature or issue in queue.   

And  that is where the user and QA community comes in, we have to stay up
with the issues on the forum and in BZ and occasionally make comment regards
opportunity that might otherwise be missed.   

For this issue--despite being on the 4.2 Most Annoying Bug list--once
patched the back-port to 4.2 or to 4.3 for the in-line field editing was not
pursued.  In fact it was only proposed yesterday, meaning it  missed 4.3.2
testing and build cycle.

But when committed to the branch should make the 4.3.3 bug-fix cut.  And,
technically, it could still make the 4.2.7 final release, but that requires
an exceptional approval by three devs or the Engineering Steering Committee.

Jan-Marek G.'s proposed backport to 4.3 branch  for the in-line field edits
are up for code review, each of these is a separate facet of the patch
needed for 4.3 (and  possibly 4.2) as already implemented in master since
August.
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/11779
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/11780
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/11781
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/11782

If there are no technical issues, since the patch put into master in August
was sound they'll likely be approved and committed in time for the next 4.3
release--but available for testing in context on nightly builds of the 4.3
branch once committed, i.e. they should be checked by users and QA for
continued proper function.

Hope that was clear enough for all.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Understanding the Bugzilla issue tracker

2014-10-04 Thread V Stuart Foote
Charles S. (aka. Tanstaafl) asked in this thread: 
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to handle regressions

 Follow-up...
 
 In the bug UI, is there an easy way to get a list of bugs that have been
 patched/fixed in master, that a user like me could browse, and pick
 certain ones that I could then test and if confirmed fixed, could
 request be back-ported (if they haven't been already)?
 
 I would be very happy to participate in this manner, but honestly, the
 bug UI is a bit daunting, so anything that makes this easier for non
 devs would be very welcome for technically inclined non-devs like yours
 truly. 

@Charles, *,

Great question!  As it happens you can do just that as the project has
implemented use of a set of status messages posted to the *Whiteboard* field
in Bugzilla to hold various QA and development status notes.  

Notice of patch commits against specific BZ issues are automatically
posted** 

-=To search against the Whiteboard=-

Open Bugzilla -- Search,  and select the Advanced Search panel tab
Under the Product column select LibreOffice
Under the Status column keep the default of NEW-ASSIGNED-REOPENED (unless
looking at historical details)
In the Detailed Bug Information section, on the Whiteboard row enter
target:4.4.0 (i.e. either current master, or specific branch) 


The general and advanced details are in these two Wiki articles:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard/Advanced

=-=-=
From the  Complete List of Accepted Whiteboard Tags
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard/Advanced#Complete_List_of_Accepted_Whiteboard_Tags
  
*target*
Description: target refers to the version(s) where a commit which fixes the
problem can be expected to be seen.

Use: Generally “target” is automatically entered when a developer commits a
patch specifically to fix a bug reported on the bug tracker. Users, QA and
Developer should generally not manually enter “target” into whiteboard, the
only exception is when the automatic system did not tag the bug and a
developer or QA member knows the exact commit which fixed the bug and what
version of LibreOffice will see the patch. In these cases a QA member can
mark a bug as “target:x.x.x.x” where x.x.x.x is the version(s) of
LibreOffice where the commit was pushed to.

*Example:*

target:4.2.0.0

This means that a commit which fixes the problem was committed to the
4.2.0.0, and therefore if a user or QA member tests 4.2.0.0 they should not
see the bug any longer.
=-=-=

Looking at Bugzilla and the Wiki, the whole process is a little daunting,
but really can be quickly mastered. 

A good starting point for the QA process--this Wiki page is helpful: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Introduction

Stuart


**Generating the automatic target:xx.xx.xx tag does require that the dev
working in git/gerrit annotate the bug being addressed, a manual action so
it is not 100%.  But, well structured BZ issues facilitate both the QA
triage on intake and tracking at all stages as devs work on issues--so the
preferred workflow is to capture details into BZ. 








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[libreoffice-users] Re: ver. 4.2.6-secfix

2014-10-05 Thread V Stuart Foote
Should have what you need here...

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/4.2.6.3/win/x86/



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: ver. 4.2.6-secfix

2014-10-07 Thread V Stuart Foote
@edo1, *,

 No need to incrementally install. The 4.2.6.3 build is a full installer that 
contains the security fix.  The installable Help was built for it at the same 
time on August 28th.

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/4.2.6.3/

Enjoy


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Thanks to Luuk and Foote for the pointers, I've got everything I need now
to update. Should I update from ver 4.2.5 to ver 4.2.6.3 first, or can I
update directly to the secfix? I'm inclined to do it stepwise, but am just
curious to know if omitting 4.2.6.3 would work.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LO versions to run in parallel on the same computer

2014-10-30 Thread V Stuart Foote
Gary Collins wrote
    Hi, I've tried installing the secfix version of LO to run in parallel
 with the version I generally use (on Windows 7). The instructions in the
 link were unclear (or just plain wrong), but I did finally manage to get
 the installer to complete, apparently successfully, i.e. the installer
 wizard reported that install was OK and the files appear to be
 there, but when I try to start  it up it crashes with the error
 Application Error: The application was unable to start correctly
 (0xc07b)
 Does anyone have the explanation (and hopefully also the remedy) for
 this?Thanks,/Gary

Gary,

I do hundreds of these installs, and at the moment in addition to current
4.3.3.2 build, I have 16 parallel builds of prior release and TB daily
builds available to use on Windows.  So, doing this is second nature to me. 

I just reviewed the in parallel instructions for Windows builds (Version
3.5.x and newer) on the Wiki:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

Two key points for in parallel loads that should help you sort things:

On Windows builds we use the Microsoft Installer mechanism to perform an
Administrative installation of the package with the /A flag.  Lots of
general support online for what happens with Administrative installations of
.msi packages.  But the important part is that the typical installation does
not actually install anything--it just fully extracts it to the system.  And
the step to specify the target directory  with TARGETDIR= is very necessary
to do things consistently into a location other than the Download folder.
Personally  I set it to a folder named for the build on the C: drive, e.g.
TARGETDIR=C:\LO42363_20140904

The other aspect, in the User Configuration section of the Wiki, is that the
default extraction sets the program to use  an internal LibreOffice variable
$SYSUSERCONFIG that on launch points to your Windows %APPDATA%
directory--and would interfere with content of your actual installation.  To
run installs in parallel, in the program directory the bootstrap.ini file is
edited to change the variable to $ORIGIN (i.e. where program is being
launched from) and giving it a relative path /../Data/settings to keep
everything on execution within the parallel installation.

If you get those to facets correct, things should run well for you.  If not,
it is possible that the downloaded .msi installer was corrupt.  You can
check that for the release builds by reviewing either the hash values, or
PGP signature of the file you download.  The released builds are here:
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/  and drill
down to the Windows folder where hash and signatures are on the details
links. Verify your download.

Hope that was clear for you, but post back if still stuck.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Recommended version of Java?

2014-10-30 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tanstaafl wrote
 Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
 supported for what versions of Libreoffice?

No. But it probably belongs in the Wiki. 

Last substantive issues were when Oracle released Java 7 requiring new
vendor and minVersion strings. See  fdo#39659 comment 37
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39659#c37  .  Another was
Windows specific with transition from VS2008 to VS2010-- fdo#50584
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50584  . 

Nothing like that for JRE 8 or the move to VS2012 for builds.

 Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?

Yes, so far as has been reported.  The LibreOffice Java bytecode generated
remains at target 1.5 (major code 49),  JRE 8 handles that without issues.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Tab defaults change when pasting into Writer from some other applications

2014-10-31 Thread V Stuart Foote
Virgil Arrington-2 wrote
 ...
 btw., Ironically, as I'm typing this, I'm sitting in my Law Office 
 Technology class while my students are taking a test on the use of 
 paragraph styles. After teaching this class for five semesters, I've 
 finally found an approach that works. I think Tom suggested it. I give 
 them an unformatted document and ask them to format it using any method 
 they understand. They usually take 30 to 45 minutes and end up with a 
 mess. I then demonstrate reformatting the document with styles and I'm 
 done in about 3 minutes and the document formatting is consistent and 
 useful. I then ask, If your client was paying $200 an hour to have a 
 legal document prepared and formatted, who would they rather pay, me or 
 you?

A bit OT, but that is a great instructional example on the value of applying
styles to unformatted text.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Writer - Bold activates by itself

2014-11-05 Thread V Stuart Foote
timllloyd wrote
 ok, bug logged:
 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85943

Tim, thank you for posting the issue to Bugzilla.  As it turns out, Urmas
had gotten to it (if a bit terse) with  fdo#85876
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85876   issue will be tracked
there, and the 85943 bug is resolved as a duplicate.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: bugzilla question

2014-11-10 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tim,

Done from the Advanced search tab. Check boxes in the Search by people
field...

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDbug_status=NEEDINFOemail1=tim.lloyd%40gmx.comemaillongdesc1=1emailtype1=exactproduct=LibreOfficequery_format=advanced

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: New LibreOffice user Question

2014-11-12 Thread V Stuart Foote
Dave Asaibene wrote
 ... Is there a place I can get an older copy of LibreOffice?

Archived releases are here... 

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/




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[libreoffice-users] Re: How does 4.4 compress PDFs so well? Is there a quality problem?

2014-11-18 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Paddy,

A printed copy of your PDF is not a very good test of document quality.
Embedded BMP representation within LibreOffice is at 300dpi.  Export print
may be the vector format  (wmf, emf, eps, svg) or a bitmap rendering
preview--at 300dpi. 

 You really need to open each PDF in suitable viewer and zoom in to 800% or
1200%.  How do embedded  images compare there? Are they bitmap?  Or more
concise full resolution vector images?

Also, the platform you work on will impact handling of vector images.
Several helper programs are needed--Ghostscript, ImageMagick, pstoedit and
the mix will impact handling as bitmap or vector.

Please provide your OS details, and perhaps attach a sample output (via the
Nabble interface).

Stuart 




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Comments on pdf file size in 4.4 alpha; and a new bug?

2014-11-22 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Tom, *,

Nicely put.  Thanks!

@CVAlkan, *,

The transparency issues with PDF export in the 4.3 branch,  is a reported in
bugzilla, 
fdo#84294 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84294  
fdo#83963 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83963  

I believe frame transparency is fixed with current 4.4.0.0 builds (rc2,
beta1) and in the dailys of master, but transparent text fields is not yet
correct.  Testing appreciated.

Stuart

-=ref=-
 fdo#80468 and fdo#81223




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Comments on pdf file size in 4.4 alpha; and a new bug?

2014-11-22 Thread V Stuart Foote
Oops, correct that last...  s/rc2/alpha2/  we're not that far along with the
4.4 branch.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Comments on pdf file size in 4.4 alpha; and a new bug?

2014-11-23 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Rob, *,

Rob Jasper wrote
 I think this is really well explained.
 
 I've been professionally involved in defect reporting for years, and the
 problems seem to be the same in all organisations.
 
 Problems in defect reporting:
 1- Qualification of type (A bug is unexpected behaviour which does not
 comply to the requirements; An enhancement request is new development
 which changes both requirements and code)
 2- Severity (How serious is the bug/enhancement request from users
 perspective)
 3- Priority (What is the priority with respect to other bug/enhancement
 reports)
 
 Neither of these I see in out bugzilla defect reporting...
 
 There should be a moderator (not a developer) to map out the priority. One
 can set out rather strict rules for this, think about amount of complaints
 for the same, file corruption, system crash, etc.
 If we would go along these lines we might get away with the tension
 between (expert-) users and developers.
 
 But again, good effort here to get things ironed out,
 Thanks Tom,
 
 Rob.

Actually, the LibreOffice project is rather well organized in this
regard--please review the QA Wiki here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA

QA is a distinct entity to Development--and while there is certainly some
cross over,  the developers are not moderators of the process. That falls to
the Engineering Steering Committee with input from the entire community--QA
team, UX and Design team, Documentation team,
Localization/Internationalization team, Marketing team and the occasional
needs of TDF board.

So, always room to participate. Please start as Tom suggested by loading a
current build of the 4.4.0 build, or a daily Tinderbox of master and test
there.   

We can always use additional help with the QA process--get a login on our 
FDO hosted Bugzilla instance https://bugs.freedesktop.org/   and dive in,
plenty of  triage work to go around.

Regards,

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing options.

2014-11-25 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Steve,

That is an interface to System printer settings.

And, if you are using it for printing to a PDF processor--you are printing as 
PS (Adobe or Ghostscript based).

But internal to LO, an Export to PDF will use different processing filters than 
printing to PS--so there can be subtle differences between the two resulting 
PDFs.

Stuart

From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:25 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Printing options.

Hi.
In File Printer Settings, under options is the device printer language
setting (PDF/Postscript).

Is this a Libreoffice configuration or a system configuration. I ask
because some documents print fine with postscript but not with PDF. If
it is a LO function I will file a bug.
Thanks, steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Saving intermediate drafts of bug reports in Bugzilla

2014-12-18 Thread V Stuart Foote
Hedley,

No way to do it like that. 

You can open a stub of the report set status to NEEDINFO.  And then flesh it 
out. But it would be visible to any BZ participant as you work on it. And, when 
finished crafting, set to UNCONFIRMED to alert the QA reviewers who will either 
set it back to NEEDINFO or if fully described and valid move it along as NEW.

Stuart


From: Hedley Finger
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:03 AM
To: LibreOffice Users
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Saving intermediate drafts of bug reports in 
Bugzilla

I am currently writing up my recent complaints about the handling of
graphics in Calc as an enhancement request bug report.

Is there any way I can save a report as a draft without publishing it so
that I can work on it in sessions rather than complete it all at once?

I know you guys and gals will come through!

Regards,
Hedley


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Dot separated date in YYYY.MM.DD format

2014-12-19 Thread V Stuart Foote
Add the input format to your Date acceptance pattern?

Tools - Language Settings - Languages:  Language Of... Date acceptance
patterns

-=from en-US help=-

Date acceptance patterns

Specifies the date acceptance patterns for the current locale. Calc
spreadsheet and Writer table cell input needs to match locale dependent date
acceptance patterns before it is recognized as a valid date. Default locale
dependent date acceptance patterns are generated build time, but it is
possible to add more or modify them in this edit box.
Additionally to the date acceptance patterns defined here, every locale
accepts input in an ISO 8601 Y-M-D pattern, and since LibreOfficeDev 3.5
that also leads to the -MM-DD format being applied.
Syntax: Y means year, M means month, and D means day, regardless of
localizaton.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Help with Installation problem.

2015-02-06 Thread V Stuart Foote
Urmas D. wrote
 'Error 1402. Could not open key:HOT_KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE32\Software\Classes\
 bmp\OpenWithProgIDs.
 
 The actual issue is that LO has no business messing with this registry key 
 at all.

Actually the correct registry key would be
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.bmp\OpenWithProgids and LibreOffice
would lay down a string value of LibreOffice.Bmp.

On a fully integrated installation on Windows that value allows the
LibreOffice Draw module to open a .bmp from Windows Explorer shell using the
open with dialog.

If the error quoted by OP was actually received--then something is horribly
wrong with the build of the installer, and a error 1402 is the least of hist
worries.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite

2015-01-21 Thread V Stuart Foote
Just inherited a 2007 iMac and loaded Yosemite‎ (OS X 10.10.1)

First thing I loaded LO 4.4.0.2, and then 4.3.6.2 and the current
(2015-01-21)  4.5.0 master.

Steps couldn't be simpler. In fact parallel install is done almost the same
as with the Windows .msi packages

Put which ever of the installs into /Applications just like any package
install. Drag and drop there once the .dmg is downloaded and mounted. 
Launch by double clicking the folder in /Applications.

For the additional installs, they could go into /Applications as well  just
with different names.  

But they can go anywhere. For example onto user's Desktop, Documents,
Downloads etc... just mount the downloaded .dmg package and drag the
LibreOffice or LibreOfficeDev .app directory object to where you want it to
reside. It does not need to go into /Applications.

Then use Spotlight to find the bootstraprc file and edit it in TextEdit. 
Just as with Windows or Linux builds, edit the
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/LibreOffice/4 to be
UserInstallation=$ORIGIN/../Data/settings

The $ORIGIN variable is parsed internally by LibreOffice and then creates
the entire user profile within the app package, in the example
Data/settings but the directory names for the user profile can actually be
anything you like.  They are fully structured profiles and are portable.

When ready to launch the build, open the .app folder with Finder and locate
the soffice executable and Control Open it.   You can create an app launcher
for it if you don't want to dig down into the folder every time.

Easy as pie...  I had all three flavors running simultaneously and could do
side-by-side comparisons of the UI.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc issue: green display bug

2015-01-19 Thread V Stuart Foote
Eric,

Sorry,  the ML does not pass through attachments.   Either provide a hosted
location for your screen clip, or use the Nabble interface and insert, or
upload and link.

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Support options

2015-01-16 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Urmas, *

Don't know that I'd call signature useless--and there are instances where
they are legally required.
But probably not necessary here.  But hey, to each their own. 

Just need to recognize them for what they are, and ignore them otherwise.

Stuart



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