Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and Confluence on xwiki.org
Created Forum entry https://forum.xwiki.org/t/comparing-xwiki-to-mediawiki-and-confluence-on-xwiki-org/634 Thanks, Caty On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I finally got the time to make another iteration for these comparison > pages. > > If anyone want to make modifications on the texts, they are available at: > - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Compare/ > - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Compare/XWiki-vs-Confluence/ > - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Compare/XWiki-vs-MediaWiki/ > > They should look like: > - Compare: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > XWikiOrg2017/preview_Compare.png > - XWiki vs. Confluence: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/ > bin/download/Proposal/XWikiOrg2017/preview_Confluence.png > - XWiki vs. MediaWiki: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/ > bin/download/Proposal/XWikiOrg2017/preview_MediaWiki.png > > I'm curious to know what you think about this version in terms of layout, > validate the content, maybe you have other points that we can compare the > solutions on, maybe I wrote something wrong for the solutions. > > Let me know, > Caty > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Bryn Jeffries < > bryn.jeffr...@sydney.edu.au> wrote: > >> Denis Gervalle said: >> > > Yes, we only maintain documentation for the latest version of XWiki on >> > > xwiki.org (not enough manpower to have decent doc for several >> versions >> > > ATM). >> > > >> > >> > However, for version 6.2.5 and later, you have a way to mitigate this >> > limitation. You can install the Scripting Documentation Application on >> your >> > own wiki (see >> > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Scripti >> ng+Documenta >> > tion+Application). >> >> Thanks, I did not know about this tool, which sounds excellent. >> >> > Unless you are using XWiki prior to 4.2 , using Wiki Component is >> definitely >> > the recommended way to writes Groovy components. Registering >> > components "by hand" from a groovy script has many drawbacks not only >> > the restart one, and you should avoid doing that. The best is of course >> to >> > write the components in Java, and install them as an extension. >> >> I've found the ability to write small Groovy scripts as components has >> been very handy and simpler than writing full extensions in Java. For >> utilities that I don't wish to make into public extensions the burden of a >> small Groovy script into a proper extension seems prohibitive (although >> that may just be that I haven't written one yet, and I'm just a walker at >> the bottom of a hill complaining about how high it looks...). Last time I >> asked there is was no simple way to install private extensions. Also, I >> didn't have much luck writing a proper component in Groovy, which I >> sometimes prefer to Java. >> ___ >> users mailing list >> users@xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and Confluence on xwiki.org
Hi, I finally got the time to make another iteration for these comparison pages. If anyone want to make modifications on the texts, they are available at: - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Compare/ - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Compare/XWiki-vs-Confluence/ - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/Compare/XWiki-vs-MediaWiki/ They should look like: - Compare: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/XWikiOrg2017/preview_Compare.png - XWiki vs. Confluence: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/XWikiOrg2017/preview_Confluence.png - XWiki vs. MediaWiki: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/XWikiOrg2017/preview_MediaWiki.png I'm curious to know what you think about this version in terms of layout, validate the content, maybe you have other points that we can compare the solutions on, maybe I wrote something wrong for the solutions. Let me know, Caty On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Bryn Jeffrieswrote: > Denis Gervalle said: > > > Yes, we only maintain documentation for the latest version of XWiki on > > > xwiki.org (not enough manpower to have decent doc for several versions > > > ATM). > > > > > > > However, for version 6.2.5 and later, you have a way to mitigate this > > limitation. You can install the Scripting Documentation Application on > your > > own wiki (see > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Scripting+Documenta > > tion+Application). > > Thanks, I did not know about this tool, which sounds excellent. > > > Unless you are using XWiki prior to 4.2 , using Wiki Component is > definitely > > the recommended way to writes Groovy components. Registering > > components "by hand" from a groovy script has many drawbacks not only > > the restart one, and you should avoid doing that. The best is of course > to > > write the components in Java, and install them as an extension. > > I've found the ability to write small Groovy scripts as components has > been very handy and simpler than writing full extensions in Java. For > utilities that I don't wish to make into public extensions the burden of a > small Groovy script into a proper extension seems prohibitive (although > that may just be that I haven't written one yet, and I'm just a walker at > the bottom of a hill complaining about how high it looks...). Last time I > asked there is was no simple way to install private extensions. Also, I > didn't have much luck writing a proper component in Groovy, which I > sometimes prefer to Java. > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >
Re: [xwiki-users] How to debug page rights
[[Note: The XWiki project is switching away from this mailing list and moving to a forum: https://discourse.xwiki.org. This list will be made readonly in a few days. Please post on the forum from now on. Thanks.]] - Hi, http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Check%20Security%20Cache can help in some ways. I've proposed some improvements to the Rights system that (if people like them / want them) they could be implemented in the future. Would love to hear your thoughts on them, see https://forum.xwiki.org/t/ux-rights-improvements/107/7 Thanks, Caty On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Vincent Massolwrote: > [[Note: The XWiki project is switching away from this mailing list and > moving to a forum: https://discourse.xwiki.org. This list will be made > readonly in a few days. Please post on the forum from now on. Thanks.]] > > - > HI Jan, > > > On 5 Jun 2017, at 14:23, jan.steh...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > [[Note: The XWiki project is switching away from this mailing list and > moving to a forum: https://discourse.xwiki.org. This list will be made > readonly in a few days. Please post on the forum from now on. Thanks.]] > > > > - > > Hi everybody, > > I'm migrating content from 5.4.5 wiki to the 9.4. The old content was one > > space and about 300 pages. The content has been imported ok, however it > is > > visible only to admin. > > Is there any debug option which I can turn on, so I can debug why is this > > page restricted to other users? > > Maybe http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ > Security%20Inspector%20Application/ ? > > Thanks > -Vincent > > PS: Please try to use the forum from now on, we’re removing this list. > Thanks > > > > Thanks for hints. > > --jans > >
Re: [xwiki-users] Initial permissions for users - new users can't see anything
[[Note: The XWiki project is switching away from this mailing list and moving to a forum: https://discourse.xwiki.org. This list will be made readonly in a few days. Please post on the forum from now on. Thanks.]] - If you explicitly allow a right, it gets automatically denied for the rest of the users. Maybe this is your problem. You explicitly allowed view to some user/group at that level, implicitly denying it for your user. Thanks, Caty On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 12:46 AM, Douglas Landauwrote: > [[Note: The XWiki project is switching away from this mailing list and > moving to a forum: https://discourse.xwiki.org. This list will be made > readonly in a few days. Please post on the forum from now on. Thanks.]] > > - > Greets, > > In my XWiki installation, when regular users log in for the 1st time, they > are greeted with a simple message: > >Error > You are not allowed to view this page or perform this action. > > To be sure, the user has no rights at all. However, the new user IS > placed in the group "XWikiAllGroup", and that group DOES have all rights > excelt Admin, Delete, and Program. In other words, it has View, Comment, > Edit, and Script, and Register. > > 1. Is this correct? Should the new user not have all rights except for > Admin, Delete, and Program? > > 2. The new user IS placed in the XWikiAllGroup. So, why can the new user > not see the Main page, and other pages? > > 3. What have I done to get in this situation and what is the proper > remediation? > > Thanks!!! > Doug > > > The information contained in this transmission may contain West Marine > proprietary, confidential and/or privileged > information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named > above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are > hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or > duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. > If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply > email and destroy all copies of the original > message. To reply to our email administrator directly, please send an > email to netad...@westmarine.com. >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Olivier Seres <ose...@gmail.com> wrote: > Caty, > Thanks for this work! > We should also consider that there could be other options to be added in > the future, like "Allow realtime" radio button, or introduced by some > forecoming extensions > Ideal we could also remove options :) and make it more simpler :) On mobile the options will go on 2 rows, so we currently have this problems. Thanks, Caty > In order to avoid messing up the layout (in beeing be obliged to placing > the option in some weird places - like underneath because there is no other > options), it might be wise to think to an elegant design solution within > this bottom bar to take their growth into account. > Currently thinking to an unfolding menu, but I'm sure there are many other > ways. > > > > Olivier > > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The initial proposal was about the fixed bottom position. For that we will >> have https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14162 issue >> In order to have a bottom bar, we compacted the save options, for that we >> will have the https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14267 >> >> Thanks to everyone who responded in the survey. The results are available >> at >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DM74hlXQQ22WVdqhYbGWyITWXTH >> 5qgmKSMIrS3eHDKE/viewanalytics >> >> The proposal we will implement is >> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisi >> bleSave/proposal9xCK.png >> >> Initially I wanted to remove some buttons and reduce their number, but the >> feedback was mixed, so this has been postponed, until we gather more usage >> data or feedback. >> >> Some conclusions: >> - "Save & View" received 12 votes as used most often. Since it's also an >> action that changes modes (takes the user to view) and is a final action, >> it will be marked with primary state (blue). >> - "Save" was also voted and voters were against remove it. Since it >> received 12 votes and is related to save, it will be the next action. We >> simplified the name from "Save" to "Save". >> - "Preview" received just 4 votes, but we consider this action to be >> directed towards newcomer users that need to be comfortable with their >> changes and be able to preview them. >> - "Cancel" was kept near the other actions in order to be consistent with >> the other layout we have across XWiki. It will be displayed outside of the >> button group. >> >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Sorry. The link was https://goo.gl/forms/QyG5eOM44rBkd3qk2 >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> I've created this form to gather data about the buttons usage, in order >> >> to make a proposal for the buttons location >> >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeQwjxlFl321Ap97xKlYRcf >> -39wlG- >> >> cJXXqM1nududfjo3KHQ/viewanalytics >> >> >> >> Hope everyone is comfortable with Google Forms. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Caty >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Denis GERMAIN <dt.germ...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Great proposition ! I like it. >> >>> >> >>> I see that the subject has also diverted to the fact that you can >> "save >> >>> and >> >>> continue" and "save and view". Some of our users are lost the first >> time >> >>> as >> >>> they click "save and continue" and don't understand why they are >> still in >> >>> edit mode. Clarifying this would indeed be a good idea, even though >> they >> >>> usually get the distinction quickly after that. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Denis >> >>> >> >>> 2017-04-26 17:01 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> vali...@gmail.com >> >>> >: >> >>> >> >>> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > > Hi Caty, >> >>> > > >> >>> > > I
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons
Hi, The initial proposal was about the fixed bottom position. For that we will have https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14162 issue In order to have a bottom bar, we compacted the save options, for that we will have the https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14267 Thanks to everyone who responded in the survey. The results are available at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DM74hlXQQ22WVdqhYbGWyITWXTH5qgmKSMIrS3eHDKE/viewanalytics The proposal we will implement is http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/proposal9xCK.png Initially I wanted to remove some buttons and reduce their number, but the feedback was mixed, so this has been postponed, until we gather more usage data or feedback. Some conclusions: - "Save & View" received 12 votes as used most often. Since it's also an action that changes modes (takes the user to view) and is a final action, it will be marked with primary state (blue). - "Save" was also voted and voters were against remove it. Since it received 12 votes and is related to save, it will be the next action. We simplified the name from "Save" to "Save". - "Preview" received just 4 votes, but we consider this action to be directed towards newcomer users that need to be comfortable with their changes and be able to preview them. - "Cancel" was kept near the other actions in order to be consistent with the other layout we have across XWiki. It will be displayed outside of the button group. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry. The link was https://goo.gl/forms/QyG5eOM44rBkd3qk2 > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've created this form to gather data about the buttons usage, in order >> to make a proposal for the buttons location >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeQwjxlFl321Ap97xKlYRcf-39wlG- >> cJXXqM1nududfjo3KHQ/viewanalytics >> >> Hope everyone is comfortable with Google Forms. >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Denis GERMAIN <dt.germ...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Great proposition ! I like it. >>> >>> I see that the subject has also diverted to the fact that you can "save >>> and >>> continue" and "save and view". Some of our users are lost the first time >>> as >>> they click "save and continue" and don't understand why they are still in >>> edit mode. Clarifying this would indeed be a good idea, even though they >>> usually get the distinction quickly after that. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Denis >>> >>> 2017-04-26 17:01 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com >>> >: >>> >>> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > Hi Caty, >>> > > >>> > > I am a fan of “B”. >>> > > >>> > > I like the idea of putting the changelog and autosave options above >>> on a >>> > > preceding row. I would argue that for most users, their eyes only >>> see the >>> > > leftmost buttons as the functionally useful area. Thus putting >>> Cancel on >>> > > the far right effectively “hides” the button. >>> > > >>> > >>> > Yes, the most visible buttons are the ones on the left side and that's >>> the >>> > purpose. We need people to see the Save button :) >>> > Now, 'summary' functionality is not mandatory when editing and can >>> also be >>> > disabled from Administration - Editing. >>> > Having it on a separate line is not an option since we initial idea of >>> the >>> > thread is to provide a fixed bottom bar, when the viewport is small. So >>> > there are all on a single bar in order to be compact. >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > For the purposes of mobile, I think it is acceptable to hide the >>> > changelog >>> > > and autosave options on small-screen resolutions. (Such as when I am >>> > > editing from iPhone, I am highly unlikely to leave a changelog >>> message >>> > > anyway.) >>> > > >>> > >>> > I haven't iterated much on the mobile version, but the mockup I have is >>> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ >>> > IdeaVisibleSave/mobile.png >>> > It can be improved, and as y
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content Actions
Hi, So after 2 weeks of available time to express opinions I have some conclusions: we are going to implement P2. I've created http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14265 We are going to make sure to have a span around the labels so that they can be easily hidden in custom skins. We had 42 votes around the subject held on 4 channels, for more details see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions#HVoting P2 had 65% of the votes, while P4 35%. Thanks everyone for the votes Caty On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Mahomed Hussein <maho...@custodiandc.com> wrote: > > I’d go as far as saying that the labels could actually be distracting by > taking more visual > > space and catching your eyes when you look at the UI as a whole and want > to focus on the > > content. > > I totally agree with this about the UI and wasted space and distractions. > > > Now this could be minor and the advantages for the newcomers could be > more important than the > > small downside for returning users. > > Well newcomers just need to learn about the functions of the buttons by > using them once or twice. Whereas the rest of us have to deal with the > wasted space and distraction forever more :) Also, can't the concern about > newcomers (and the introduction to the purpose of the buttons) be addressed > with the tour application that now runs for new users? > > Honestly I don't think everyone is going to agree on this. Whatever the > XWiki team chooses, will probably be fine. People will complain for a bit > and just move on with life. So I think the team should just take the result > from the poll and implement that as I think the topic could continue > indefinitely :-) > > > Kind regards, > > > > > Mahomed Hussein > Custodian Data Centre > Email: maho...@custodiandc.com > http://www.CustodianDC.com > > -Original Message- > From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Massol > Sent: 28 April 2017 09:02 > To: XWiki Users <users@xwiki.org> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content > Actions > > > > On 28 Apr 2017, at 09:57, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Clément Aubin > > <clement.au...@xwiki.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 04/27/2017 11:58 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > >>> Some summary until now: > >>> P2: Craig, Olivier > >>> P4: Mahomed, Steffen, Jesse, Miroslav > >> > >> As a «fresh» user, I would prefer P2, mostly because I don’t think > >> that every newcomer will have the intuition to look at the top-right > >> corner of the page for its options. Adding labels allows for those > >> three icons to be more visible. > >> > >> > > From an usability perspective, having labels is unbeatable both for > > new users and advanced users. > > I agree for new users but not for advanced. Users who’ve used those button > just once know about them and don’t need the labels. I’d go as far as > saying that the labels could actually be distracting by taking more visual > space and catching your eyes when you look at the UI as a whole and want to > focus on the content. > > Now this could be minor and the advantages for the newcomers could be more > important than the small downside for returning users. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > We could also display the icons labels only if the user has the > > «simple» > >> user profile and remove them as soon as he becomes more advanced. > >> > > > > Not sure about making this configurable. It's a simple decision, we > > need to agree on a default. With this approach we make everything in > > XWiki configurable. > > > > The advantage of reaching to newcomers is that in time they will also > > become advanced users. We want to encourage user transformation. Also > > I don't think users that start with a more explicit interface will > > like the change after, since they will become accustomed to it. > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> -- > >> Clément Aubin > >> Web Developer Intern @XWiki SAS > >> clement.au...@xwiki.com > >> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > >
Re: [xwiki-users] News panel wizard
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:40 PM, tadewos somanowrote: > And the date in xwiki(for blogs, wikis,...) is 2009. How can it be > corrected? > I don't have an answer for that (except 1. xar export the page, modify manually the date and reimport the page; or 2. change the date using programming; etc.) but you can read more about the issue at https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-7058 Thanks, Caty > > > > *Best,Tadewos * > > > > > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Sebastian Luna Valero < > sebastian.luna.val...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Many thanks for your answers, good to see different available options! > > > > I have finally used xwiki's default blog to make announcements, and then > I > > have also added the "Recent Blog Posts" panel to the top left corner > which > > is moreless what we wanted to do. > > > > Best regards, > > Sebastian > > >
Re: [xwiki-users] Question about activating css source maps and cache cleaning
To be honest I don't know about the properties you are asking about so I'm not sure if this will solve your problem, but when I want the LESS parser to activate I usually go in a Flamingo Theme and I re-save it (not sure if I need to be in the "Advanced" section or if the theme needs to be active). On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Interaktionsweise < ne...@interaktionsweise.de> wrote: > Hi, > > I've been wondering if there is something else do to to get the source > maps for css enabled. > I followed the instructions on the Extension page of the "LESS Module". > I edited and un-commented the property "lesscss.generateInlineSourceMaps > = true" within "xwiki.properties". > Afterwards I restarted the server service. > I also switched color themes to clean the cache. > But I cannot see a change in the developer views of Chromium or Firefox. > Every style still refers to style.css. > > At this point I also want to ask about the usage of the manual cleaning > method for the cache. > The documentation says that I can use the LESS CSS script service and > provides a snippet > > {{velocity}} > $service.lesscss.clearCache() > {{velocity}} > In theory this can be put inside any page, save and view. Make sure you properly close the {{/velocity}} macro (although might work as well). Thanks, Caty > But where should I put this? > The section "Script Service" on the LESS Module page only has a link to > the source code on GitHub. I'm still digging into the XWiki world so maybe > it is just a matter of time if can figure it out. The whole velocity less > scripting thing is a huge topic though. > > Regards, > sthag > >
Re: [xwiki-users] News panel wizard
There is this extension http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Flash%20messages%20application it's not using panels, but has the purpose you want. it needs to be tested with latest versions of XWiki, Thanks, Caty On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Sebastian Luna Valero < sebastian.luna.val...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Is it possible to make announcements to users on XWiki so they can see it > easily when they log in? > > Not sure whether this functionality is already available somehow on XWiki > (I'm using version 8.4.5) and I am thinking of presenting the announcements > within a panel wizard similar to one like "recently modified". > > Best regards, > Sebastian >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content Actions
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Clément Aubin <clement.au...@xwiki.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On 04/27/2017 11:58 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > Some summary until now: > > P2: Craig, Olivier > > P4: Mahomed, Steffen, Jesse, Miroslav > > As a «fresh» user, I would prefer P2, mostly because I don’t think that > every newcomer will have the intuition to look at the top-right corner > of the page for its options. Adding labels allows for those three icons > to be more visible. > > >From an usability perspective, having labels is unbeatable both for new users and advanced users. > We could also display the icons labels only if the user has the «simple» > user profile and remove them as soon as he becomes more advanced. > Not sure about making this configurable. It's a simple decision, we need to agree on a default. With this approach we make everything in XWiki configurable. The advantage of reaching to newcomers is that in time they will also become advanced users. We want to encourage user transformation. Also I don't think users that start with a more explicit interface will like the change after, since they will become accustomed to it. Thanks, Caty > > Thanks, > > -- > Clément Aubin > Web Developer Intern @XWiki SAS > clement.au...@xwiki.com > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons
Sorry. The link was https://goo.gl/forms/QyG5eOM44rBkd3qk2 On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've created this form to gather data about the buttons usage, in order to > make a proposal for the buttons location > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeQwjxlFl321Ap97xKlYRcf > -39wlG-cJXXqM1nududfjo3KHQ/viewanalytics > > Hope everyone is comfortable with Google Forms. > Thanks, > Caty > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Denis GERMAIN <dt.germ...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Great proposition ! I like it. >> >> I see that the subject has also diverted to the fact that you can "save >> and >> continue" and "save and view". Some of our users are lost the first time >> as >> they click "save and continue" and don't understand why they are still in >> edit mode. Clarifying this would indeed be a good idea, even though they >> usually get the distinction quickly after that. >> >> Regards, >> Denis >> >> 2017-04-26 17:01 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com>: >> >> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> >> wrote: >> > >> > > Hi Caty, >> > > >> > > I am a fan of “B”. >> > > >> > > I like the idea of putting the changelog and autosave options above >> on a >> > > preceding row. I would argue that for most users, their eyes only see >> the >> > > leftmost buttons as the functionally useful area. Thus putting Cancel >> on >> > > the far right effectively “hides” the button. >> > > >> > >> > Yes, the most visible buttons are the ones on the left side and that's >> the >> > purpose. We need people to see the Save button :) >> > Now, 'summary' functionality is not mandatory when editing and can also >> be >> > disabled from Administration - Editing. >> > Having it on a separate line is not an option since we initial idea of >> the >> > thread is to provide a fixed bottom bar, when the viewport is small. So >> > there are all on a single bar in order to be compact. >> > >> > >> > > >> > > For the purposes of mobile, I think it is acceptable to hide the >> > changelog >> > > and autosave options on small-screen resolutions. (Such as when I am >> > > editing from iPhone, I am highly unlikely to leave a changelog message >> > > anyway.) >> > > >> > >> > I haven't iterated much on the mobile version, but the mockup I have is >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ >> > IdeaVisibleSave/mobile.png >> > It can be improved, and as you said we could decide that on mobile we >> can >> > hide some functionality, but again hard to have stats to justify what is >> > used/needed or not. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Caty >> > >> > >> > > FWIW, taborder should be the following: >> > > >> > > 1. Edit input >> > > 2. Changelog input >> > > 3. Save button >> > > 4. Preview button >> > > 5. Cancel button >> > > 6. Autosave option >> > > >> > > My $0.02. :) >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Craig >> > > >> > > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> > > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Hi, >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz >> > > <mailto:crw+xw...@crw.xyz>> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Overall I like these changes. A couple of suggestions: >> > > >> >> > > >> No one in my community understands “Save and Continue” versus “Save >> > and >> > > >> View”. Dropping the “and Continue” is a great step, but I would go >> > > farther >> > > >> and give “Save and View” the emphasis color (blue, in this case). >> That >> > > is >> > > >> the more highly understood behavior. “Save” (and continue editing) >> is >> > > >> useful but not as generally useful as “Save and View”. Especially >> if >> > you >> > > >> are dropping Preview. >> > > >> >> > > >> FWIW, I use Preview more often from WYSIWYG m
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons
I've created this form to gather data about the buttons usage, in order to make a proposal for the buttons location https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeQwjxlFl321Ap97xKlYRcf-39wlG-cJXXqM1nududfjo3KHQ/viewanalytics Hope everyone is comfortable with Google Forms. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Denis GERMAIN <dt.germ...@gmail.com> wrote: > Great proposition ! I like it. > > I see that the subject has also diverted to the fact that you can "save and > continue" and "save and view". Some of our users are lost the first time as > they click "save and continue" and don't understand why they are still in > edit mode. Clarifying this would indeed be a good idea, even though they > usually get the distinction quickly after that. > > Regards, > Denis > > 2017-04-26 17:01 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com>: > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> wrote: > > > > > Hi Caty, > > > > > > I am a fan of “B”. > > > > > > I like the idea of putting the changelog and autosave options above on > a > > > preceding row. I would argue that for most users, their eyes only see > the > > > leftmost buttons as the functionally useful area. Thus putting Cancel > on > > > the far right effectively “hides” the button. > > > > > > > Yes, the most visible buttons are the ones on the left side and that's > the > > purpose. We need people to see the Save button :) > > Now, 'summary' functionality is not mandatory when editing and can also > be > > disabled from Administration - Editing. > > Having it on a separate line is not an option since we initial idea of > the > > thread is to provide a fixed bottom bar, when the viewport is small. So > > there are all on a single bar in order to be compact. > > > > > > > > > > For the purposes of mobile, I think it is acceptable to hide the > > changelog > > > and autosave options on small-screen resolutions. (Such as when I am > > > editing from iPhone, I am highly unlikely to leave a changelog message > > > anyway.) > > > > > > > I haven't iterated much on the mobile version, but the mockup I have is > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > > IdeaVisibleSave/mobile.png > > It can be improved, and as you said we could decide that on mobile we can > > hide some functionality, but again hard to have stats to justify what is > > used/needed or not. > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > > > FWIW, taborder should be the following: > > > > > > 1. Edit input > > > 2. Changelog input > > > 3. Save button > > > 4. Preview button > > > 5. Cancel button > > > 6. Autosave option > > > > > > My $0.02. :) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Craig > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz > > > <mailto:crw+xw...@crw.xyz>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Overall I like these changes. A couple of suggestions: > > > >> > > > >> No one in my community understands “Save and Continue” versus “Save > > and > > > >> View”. Dropping the “and Continue” is a great step, but I would go > > > farther > > > >> and give “Save and View” the emphasis color (blue, in this case). > That > > > is > > > >> the more highly understood behavior. “Save” (and continue editing) > is > > > >> useful but not as generally useful as “Save and View”. Especially if > > you > > > >> are dropping Preview. > > > >> > > > >> FWIW, I use Preview more often from WYSIWYG mode since there is not > a > > > 1:1 > > > >> translation of editor view to page view. Whereas, when I am editing > > > source, > > > >> I can predict how it will look most of the time. :) > > > >> > > > >> I would also move the Cancel button over next to the other buttons. > > If I > > > >> had to rate which buttons I use the most frequently, “Cancel” would > be > > > at > > > >> the top, followed by “Save and View,” followed very very distantly > by > > > “Save > > > >> and Continue." &
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content Actions
Some summary until now: P2: Craig, Olivier P4: Mahomed, Steffen, Jesse, Miroslav Thanks, Caty On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Miroslav Galajda < miroslav.gala...@gmail.com> wrote: > Opps, I wanted to vote for P4 not for P2 :-) I've mixed up the images :-) > > P4 goes with existing style and makes it from design perspective consistent > with buttons for inline section editing. > > Sorry > > Miroslav Galajda > > On 26 April 2017 at 16:34, Miroslav Galajda <miroslav.gala...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm voting for P2 because it is making the visual style of buttons with > > dropdown menu to look as they should look, with indication of the > dropdown > > menu. > > Secondly, the visual style of the edit page button will keep consistent > > with the buttons for inline section editing. > > > > Best regards, > > Miroslav Galajda > > > > > > > > On 26 April 2017 at 15:27, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> This is getting interesting since I know users that like the P2 version > >> and > >> actually it was one of the first choices for re-implementation. > >> > >> I guess we need more votes to reach a conclusion. > >> Thanks to everyone that is participating, > >> Caty > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Jesse Bright <je...@abrightfamily.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > They both look great but I like the look of P4 better. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Jesse > >> > > >> > > On Apr 25, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >> > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Hi, > >> > > > >> > > We had feedback that new users don't know where to find the 'Edit' > and > >> > > 'Create' buttons. Also there is some confusions of why we have a > 'cog' > >> > icon > >> > > that contains actions like 'Delete' and a 'three dots' icon that > >> contain > >> > > other actions. > >> > > > >> > > Would be great if you could tell us which version you prefer: > >> > > P2: > >> > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabe > >> ledActions/ > >> > advancedUser.png > >> > > P4: > >> > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > >> > IdeaLabeledActions/P4_1_bigger.png > >> > > > >> > > Both proposals add backgrounds around the icons, the main difference > >> is > >> > > that P2 also uses descriptive labels, while P4 keeps the consistency > >> with > >> > > the top icons and a more minimalist style. > >> > > > >> > > For the more actions menu, we want to combine the actions and add > >> > category > >> > > labels, see > >> > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabe > >> ledActions/ > >> > moreActions.png > >> > > > >> > > What do you think? Do you have other solutions for your instances? > Did > >> > you > >> > > encounter the same problem? > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, > >> > > Caty > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content Actions
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> wrote: > Hi Caty, > > I like the current P2. What are the drop-down options for Edit? > 'Edit' drop-down is for 'Advanced' users and it contains the other edit modes, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/advancedExpanded.png For 'Normal' users the 'Edit' is just a button, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/simpleUser.png > > My reasoning for hiding Create is that the Create function is a little > confusing to begin with for new users. If you are used to files and > folders, it is weird that a file is also a folder (that a node can have > child nodes that are also documents). This makes sense to me because I am a > computer science grad, but it isn’t that obvious to long-time Mac/Windows > users. I would almost want it to be called “Create New Child Page” or > something, to better indicate what is going to happen when you click that > button. Except, sometimes, it doesn’t create a new child page, depending on > the template you choose. In any case, there is no obvious solution, P2 > looks best of the options provided. :) > That's another story :) Thanks, Caty > > Thanks, > Craig > > > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> wrote: > > > >> Hi Caty, > >> > >> I would use the Edit text w/ pencil on Edit and just the plus icon for > >> Create. The reason is Edit needs to be differentiated from Create, but > this > >> is accomplished with the word Edit. On small resolutions (iPhone) I > think > >> it is acceptable to hide the word Edit. > >> > > > > I have to disagree here. The purpose is to promote and highlight both > > important actions and that is both 'Edit' and 'Create'. The 'plus' sign > can > > be also confusing for new users. Highlighting just 'Edit' would be hard > to > > justify. > > > > > >> > >> The triple-dot icon needs to be a button. P2 has it as a free-floating > >> icon, P4 has it as a button: it needs to be a button as per P4. > >> > > > > Yes, a better screenshot for P2 is > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaLabeledActions/P2_noRightPanels.png > > The symmetric P4 screenshot is > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaLabeledActions/P4_noRightPanels.png > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > >> Otherwise, looks good! > >> > >> Be well, > >> Craig > >> > >>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Miroslav Galajda < > >> miroslav.gala...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I'm voting for P2 because it is making the visual style of buttons with > >>> dropdown menu to look as they should look, with indication of the > >> dropdown > >>> menu. > >>> Secondly, the visual style of the edit page button will keep consistent > >>> with the buttons for inline section editing. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> Miroslav Galajda > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 26 April 2017 at 15:27, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> This is getting interesting since I know users that like the P2 > version > >> and > >>>> actually it was one of the first choices for re-implementation. > >>>> > >>>> I guess we need more votes to reach a conclusion. > >>>> Thanks to everyone that is participating, > >>>> Caty > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Jesse Bright < > je...@abrightfamily.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> They both look great but I like the look of P4 better. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Jesse > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >>>>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We had feedback that new users don't know where to find the 'Edit' > and > >>>>>> 'Create' buttons. Also there is some confusions of why we have a > 'cog' >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content Actions
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> wrote: > Hi Caty, > > I would use the Edit text w/ pencil on Edit and just the plus icon for > Create. The reason is Edit needs to be differentiated from Create, but this > is accomplished with the word Edit. On small resolutions (iPhone) I think > it is acceptable to hide the word Edit. > I have to disagree here. The purpose is to promote and highlight both important actions and that is both 'Edit' and 'Create'. The 'plus' sign can be also confusing for new users. Highlighting just 'Edit' would be hard to justify. > > The triple-dot icon needs to be a button. P2 has it as a free-floating > icon, P4 has it as a button: it needs to be a button as per P4. > Yes, a better screenshot for P2 is http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/P2_noRightPanels.png The symmetric P4 screenshot is http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/P4_noRightPanels.png Thanks, Caty > Otherwise, looks good! > > Be well, > Craig > > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Miroslav Galajda < > miroslav.gala...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm voting for P2 because it is making the visual style of buttons with > > dropdown menu to look as they should look, with indication of the > dropdown > > menu. > > Secondly, the visual style of the edit page button will keep consistent > > with the buttons for inline section editing. > > > > Best regards, > > Miroslav Galajda > > > > > > > > On 26 April 2017 at 15:27, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> This is getting interesting since I know users that like the P2 version > and > >> actually it was one of the first choices for re-implementation. > >> > >> I guess we need more votes to reach a conclusion. > >> Thanks to everyone that is participating, > >> Caty > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Jesse Bright <je...@abrightfamily.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> They both look great but I like the look of P4 better. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Jesse > >>> > >>>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> We had feedback that new users don't know where to find the 'Edit' and > >>>> 'Create' buttons. Also there is some confusions of why we have a 'cog' > >>> icon > >>>> that contains actions like 'Delete' and a 'three dots' icon that > >> contain > >>>> other actions. > >>>> > >>>> Would be great if you could tell us which version you prefer: > >>>> P2: > >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > >> IdeaLabeledActions/ > >>> advancedUser.png > >>>> P4: > >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > >>> IdeaLabeledActions/P4_1_bigger.png > >>>> > >>>> Both proposals add backgrounds around the icons, the main difference > is > >>>> that P2 also uses descriptive labels, while P4 keeps the consistency > >> with > >>>> the top icons and a more minimalist style. > >>>> > >>>> For the more actions menu, we want to combine the actions and add > >>> category > >>>> labels, see > >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > >> IdeaLabeledActions/ > >>> moreActions.png > >>>> > >>>> What do you think? Do you have other solutions for your instances? Did > >>> you > >>>> encounter the same problem? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Caty > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> wrote: > Hi Caty, > > I am a fan of “B”. > > I like the idea of putting the changelog and autosave options above on a > preceding row. I would argue that for most users, their eyes only see the > leftmost buttons as the functionally useful area. Thus putting Cancel on > the far right effectively “hides” the button. > Yes, the most visible buttons are the ones on the left side and that's the purpose. We need people to see the Save button :) Now, 'summary' functionality is not mandatory when editing and can also be disabled from Administration - Editing. Having it on a separate line is not an option since we initial idea of the thread is to provide a fixed bottom bar, when the viewport is small. So there are all on a single bar in order to be compact. > > For the purposes of mobile, I think it is acceptable to hide the changelog > and autosave options on small-screen resolutions. (Such as when I am > editing from iPhone, I am highly unlikely to leave a changelog message > anyway.) > I haven't iterated much on the mobile version, but the mockup I have is http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/mobile.png It can be improved, and as you said we could decide that on mobile we can hide some functionality, but again hard to have stats to justify what is used/needed or not. Thanks, Caty > FWIW, taborder should be the following: > > 1. Edit input > 2. Changelog input > 3. Save button > 4. Preview button > 5. Cancel button > 6. Autosave option > > My $0.02. :) > > Thanks, > Craig > > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz > <mailto:crw+xw...@crw.xyz>> wrote: > > > >> Overall I like these changes. A couple of suggestions: > >> > >> No one in my community understands “Save and Continue” versus “Save and > >> View”. Dropping the “and Continue” is a great step, but I would go > farther > >> and give “Save and View” the emphasis color (blue, in this case). That > is > >> the more highly understood behavior. “Save” (and continue editing) is > >> useful but not as generally useful as “Save and View”. Especially if you > >> are dropping Preview. > >> > >> FWIW, I use Preview more often from WYSIWYG mode since there is not a > 1:1 > >> translation of editor view to page view. Whereas, when I am editing > source, > >> I can predict how it will look most of the time. :) > >> > >> I would also move the Cancel button over next to the other buttons. If I > >> had to rate which buttons I use the most frequently, “Cancel” would be > at > >> the top, followed by “Save and View,” followed very very distantly by > “Save > >> and Continue." > >> > >> > > This is very interesting behavior. I would love to be able to have some > > usage stats, but with XWiki being installable and independently hosted, > > stats are always hard to get by. > > > > Personally I use "Save" a lot (I like to save often in order to not lose > > stuff), but I usually use the keyboard shortcut, not necessarily the > > button. It is true that 'Preview' in WYSIWYG has its usages, especially > > when using macros or nested macros, since the result is not accurate. > > > > Regarding "Save & View" I always do it as a final step, while I never use > > "Cancel" - i just navigate away or hit the browser's 'Back'. > > > > Also in terms of functionality the "Autosave" can be used instead of the > > "Save", so we can remove 'Save' (especially in case of advanced users). > > > > So the only stats I have are from the http://playground.xwiki.org < > http://playground.xwiki.org/> from the > > past 2 months. These are the top 3 pages edited, see > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/ > UsageFebApr2017.png <http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaVisibleSave/UsageFebApr2017.png> > > > > Now let's see the heatmaps: > > - Sandbox.WebHome: > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox-Home.png <http://design.xwiki.org/ > xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox-Home.png> > > - Sandbox.TestPage1: > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox-TestPage1.png <http://design.xwiki.org/ > xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox-TestP
Re: [xwiki-users] Color theme switching to default!
Make sure the sub-wiki users have the right to view the global theme? Thanks, Caty On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Petros Marinoswrote: > Greetings dear XWiki users! > > I have installed XWiki 8.4.4 on CentOS 7.3, with Tomcat and MySQL support. > > I have integrated the site with Active Directory, so any user can use > Windows credentials to login and have the XWiki user automatically created > (without the need of registration). > > In the starting “Home” Wiki, i have created a new Color Theme to use. Every > new user logins to this wiki, retains the Color Theme i chose for the wiki > and all is good. > > However, when i created a new Wiki (Wiki2 let’s say) and have chosen the > new “Global” Color Theme to use for this Wiki too, only root can login to > that wiki and retain it. All other new users, once they login to this wiki, > have their color theme switching to default! > > What am i missing? > > Thank you all for any assistance! > > Best regards, > Petros >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content Actions
This is getting interesting since I know users that like the P2 version and actually it was one of the first choices for re-implementation. I guess we need more votes to reach a conclusion. Thanks to everyone that is participating, Caty On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Jesse Bright <je...@abrightfamily.com> wrote: > They both look great but I like the look of P4 better. > > Regards, > > Jesse > > > On Apr 25, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > We had feedback that new users don't know where to find the 'Edit' and > > 'Create' buttons. Also there is some confusions of why we have a 'cog' > icon > > that contains actions like 'Delete' and a 'three dots' icon that contain > > other actions. > > > > Would be great if you could tell us which version you prefer: > > P2: > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/ > advancedUser.png > > P4: > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaLabeledActions/P4_1_bigger.png > > > > Both proposals add backgrounds around the icons, the main difference is > > that P2 also uses descriptive labels, while P4 keeps the consistency with > > the top icons and a more minimalist style. > > > > For the more actions menu, we want to combine the actions and add > category > > labels, see > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/ > moreActions.png > > > > What do you think? Do you have other solutions for your instances? Did > you > > encounter the same problem? > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons
Hi, On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> wrote: > Overall I like these changes. A couple of suggestions: > > No one in my community understands “Save and Continue” versus “Save and > View”. Dropping the “and Continue” is a great step, but I would go farther > and give “Save and View” the emphasis color (blue, in this case). That is > the more highly understood behavior. “Save” (and continue editing) is > useful but not as generally useful as “Save and View”. Especially if you > are dropping Preview. > > FWIW, I use Preview more often from WYSIWYG mode since there is not a 1:1 > translation of editor view to page view. Whereas, when I am editing source, > I can predict how it will look most of the time. :) > > I would also move the Cancel button over next to the other buttons. If I > had to rate which buttons I use the most frequently, “Cancel” would be at > the top, followed by “Save and View,” followed very very distantly by “Save > and Continue." > > This is very interesting behavior. I would love to be able to have some usage stats, but with XWiki being installable and independently hosted, stats are always hard to get by. Personally I use "Save" a lot (I like to save often in order to not lose stuff), but I usually use the keyboard shortcut, not necessarily the button. It is true that 'Preview' in WYSIWYG has its usages, especially when using macros or nested macros, since the result is not accurate. Regarding "Save & View" I always do it as a final step, while I never use "Cancel" - i just navigate away or hit the browser's 'Back'. Also in terms of functionality the "Autosave" can be used instead of the "Save", so we can remove 'Save' (especially in case of advanced users). So the only stats I have are from the http://playground.xwiki.org from the past 2 months. These are the top 3 pages edited, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/UsageFebApr2017.png Now let's see the heatmaps: - Sandbox.WebHome: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox-Home.png - Sandbox.TestPage1: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox-TestPage1.png - Sandbox.Test.WebHome: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox-Test.png >From these heatmaps we see that 'Preview' has the most usage and after is "Save", with no usage for "Save & Continue" and "Cancel". Not we need to take into account 2 aspects: Sandbox is used by first-time users of XWiki and they usually are afraid to mess things up so the Preview is comforting for them. Also in the current layout 'Preview' is the first button from left-to-right, so it's assumed as the primary action. So if the initial proposal was 'varA', what do you think about 'varB'? - var A [Save; Save & View]: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/varA.png - var B [Save & View; Preview]: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/varB.png - var C [Save & View; Save]: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/varC.png Note: users that went to 'Preview', usually come back to the previous view, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/Sandbox-Test-preview.png I left 'Cancel' at the end, in order to be the last button and have visibility (not get lost in all the other options). Users need to use it as an 'escape' route, so it's better to find it fast and always have a static position = last. For this usually the first and last positions are best. My initial rationale to remove 'Preview' from the WYSIWYG editor was that WYSIWYG does life preview, so I though not many users use it, since I never used it. Seeing the stats for newcomers is impressive, still it would be great if more advanced / long-term users of XWiki would summaries a bit their button usage, so we could take a more informed decision. XWiki needs to accommodate both newcomers, but also long term users. Thanks, Caty > Nice work! > > Craig > > > > On Apr 25, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > We had some users complaining that the first time they edit a page they > > don't know how to save it. Depending on the screen resolution, the save > > buttons since they are at the bottom of the page are not visible and some > > users don't know they need to scroll in order to see them. > > > > We want to make some changes to XWiki, that: > > - Display the save buttons in a fixed bottom bar, when they are out of > the > > viewport, see > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaVisibleSave/bottomBar.png > > - W
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content Actions
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Mahomed Hussein <maho...@custodiandc.com> wrote: > P2 is great because it is descriptive and probably helpful on wikis with a > lot of users who are "less technical" or "slightly technophobic". > > P4 is great because it is compact and I think even technophobic users will > understand what the buttons do after the first few tries. So my vote is for > P4. > Hi, Thank for the vote. Noted :) Caty > > Regarding "combine the actions and add category labels". That looks > awesome and much more intuitive. > > > Kind regards, > > > > > Mahomed Hussein > Custodian Data Centre > Email: maho...@custodiandc.com > http://www.CustodianDC.com > > -----Original Message- > From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Ecaterina > Moraru (Valica) > Sent: 25 April 2017 18:33 > To: XWiki Mailinglist <users@xwiki.org> > Subject: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content Actions > > Hi, > > We had feedback that new users don't know where to find the 'Edit' and > 'Create' buttons. Also there is some confusions of why we have a 'cog' icon > that contains actions like 'Delete' and a 'three dots' icon that contain > other actions. > > Would be great if you could tell us which version you prefer: > P2: > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/ > advancedUser.png > P4: > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaLabeledActions/P4_1_bigger.png > > Both proposals add backgrounds around the icons, the main difference is > that P2 also uses descriptive labels, while P4 keeps the consistency with > the top icons and a more minimalist style. > > For the more actions menu, we want to combine the actions and add category > labels, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaLabeledActions/moreActions.png > > What do you think? Do you have other solutions for your instances? Did you > encounter the same problem? > > Thanks, > Caty >
Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons
Hi, The proposal it's just one version, but the image you vote for is how it will look like, after the user scrolls. Yes, it is the new / proposed version, so I'm glad you like it. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Mahomed Hussein <maho...@custodiandc.com> wrote: > I don't really use small viewports but if I did, my vote would be for > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaVisibleSave/after.png > > The design is clean, flows and is intuitive. (Unless I've misunderstood > you, and you are saying this is the way it looks now :) ) > > I have noticed that you have lost "Preview" from the compacted bar. Maybe > make the left button preview, the right button is "Save & View" with a drop > down for "Save & Continue" (like you have with the Edit/Settings button. > I've removed the Preview for the WYSIWYG mode, but it would be necessary for the Wiki mode. Regarding the dropdown with the options, initially I iterated it but I don't quite like how it looked http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/5.png Thanks for our feedback, Caty > > > Kind regards, > > > > > Mahomed Hussein > Custodian Data Centre > Email: maho...@custodiandc.com > http://www.CustodianDC.com > > -Original Message- > From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Ecaterina > Moraru (Valica) > Sent: 25 April 2017 18:22 > To: XWiki Mailinglist <users@xwiki.org> > Subject: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons > > Hi, > > We had some users complaining that the first time they edit a page they > don't know how to save it. Depending on the screen resolution, the save > buttons since they are at the bottom of the page are not visible and some > users don't know they need to scroll in order to see them. > > We want to make some changes to XWiki, that: > - Display the save buttons in a fixed bottom bar, when they are out of the > viewport, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaVisibleSave/bottomBar.png > - When the user scroll, the buttons go into their position, see > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaVisibleSave/after.png > - We compacted the bottom functionalities (summary, minor, auto-save), see > before: > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaVisibleSave/before.png > after: > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > IdeaVisibleSave/smallViewPort.png > > What do you think about this proposal? Would it improve the visibility of > the buttons? Do you have other ideas? Is it something we should implement? > > Thanks, > Caty >
[xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content Actions
Hi, We had feedback that new users don't know where to find the 'Edit' and 'Create' buttons. Also there is some confusions of why we have a 'cog' icon that contains actions like 'Delete' and a 'three dots' icon that contain other actions. Would be great if you could tell us which version you prefer: P2: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/advancedUser.png P4: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/P4_1_bigger.png Both proposals add backgrounds around the icons, the main difference is that P2 also uses descriptive labels, while P4 keeps the consistency with the top icons and a more minimalist style. For the more actions menu, we want to combine the actions and add category labels, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/moreActions.png What do you think? Do you have other solutions for your instances? Did you encounter the same problem? Thanks, Caty
[xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Visible Save buttons
Hi, We had some users complaining that the first time they edit a page they don't know how to save it. Depending on the screen resolution, the save buttons since they are at the bottom of the page are not visible and some users don't know they need to scroll in order to see them. We want to make some changes to XWiki, that: - Display the save buttons in a fixed bottom bar, when they are out of the viewport, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/bottomBar.png - When the user scroll, the buttons go into their position, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/after.png - We compacted the bottom functionalities (summary, minor, auto-save), see before: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/before.png after: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/smallViewPort.png What do you think about this proposal? Would it improve the visibility of the buttons? Do you have other ideas? Is it something we should implement? Thanks, Caty
Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page
ou can use JS. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> -Vincent > >>>> > >>>>> On 21 April 2017 at 15:28, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Miroslav, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 21 Apr 2017, at 15:05, Miroslav Galajda < > >> miroslav.gala...@gmail.com > >>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi, let me enter into this conversion. > >>>>>>> Some time ago I've asked for help how to solve problem with > >> diacritics > >>>>>> (or > >>>>>>> accents) in page names when creating new pages so that the have > >>>>>>> url-friendly names. You can search for "strip accents from page > >>>>>>> name > >>>> used > >>>>>>> in url" in xwiki users mailing list. I've got no hint or > >>>>>>> solution > >> from > >>>>>>> xwiki community till today. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I've come with solution that ensures for simple users, creating > >>>>>>> url-friendly names without requiring them to think about the > >>>>>>> concept > >> of > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> page name or page title. They simple enter the desired human > >>>>>>> readably > >>>>>> page > >>>>>>> name, and in the code behind of the page creation, I have made > >>>>>>> some modifications in createinline.vm to hook into page creation > process. > >>>> The > >>>>>>> modifications are mainly javascript based, where I've attache to > >> submit > >>>>>>> event of the "form#create", where I replace the entered "title" > >>>>>>> with > >>>> the > >>>>>>> one for url-friendly. And for url-friendly name I've used this > >>>> javascript > >>>>>>> based solution on https://pid.github.io/speakingurl/. > >>>>>>> I've integrated this principle also into page creation process > >>>>>>> of FAQ > >>>> and > >>>>>>> Blog applications, which we are using in our xwiki installation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It would be nice if you could integrate this principle into > >>>>>>> xwiki so > >>>> that > >>>>>>> everyone can have nice url-friendly urls without worring about > >>>>>>> it. It > >>>> is > >>>>>>> also suitable for english speaking users. You don't have to > >>>>>>> worry > >> about > >>>>>>> entering spaces or other non-url allowed characters, which make > >>>>>>> url > >>>> look > >>>>>>> ugly. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That looks very nice! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> One way forward I could think about: > >>>>>> * We provide some Create script service to return a URL-friendly > >> string. > >>>>>> We introduce a component role for this. We refactor > >>>>>> createinline.vm to > >>>> use > >>>>>> it and to display the URL. > >>>>>> * You could then contribute your code as an extension that we > >>>>>> make available on extensions.xwiki.org for users to install > >>>>>> * We decide later on if we want to bundle it by default > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If we don’t agree about displaying the URL by default all the > >>>>>> time > >> then > >>>> an > >>>>>> option is to introduce a UIX in createinline.vm for that. And > >>>>>> this > >>>> could be > >>>>>> implemented in your extension too for example or by default in > >>>>>> XWiki (possibly with an Admin setting). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> WDYT? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>
Re: [xwiki-users] display page title and name(url) while creating a page
Hi, Users can change the URL anytime after the page creation, and that is using the "Rename" action, although I agree that simple users might not really see the connection between Rename, URLs and Titles. So yes it would be ideal to provide the ability to select (reserve) the URL from the creation page step (for steps optimization purposes). Now, some important mention is the use case. From what I can assume from your answers, the majority of you have Wikis / Knowledge Bases. For this flavor the URLs are important and I quite get the need. The issue is for users that use XWiki for Groupware / Applications use case. When your instance is using heavily applications, you don't care about the URL is generating, you don't care about the nesting, etc. We had users that requested to never see the Page Name part and actually the ability to auto-generate the URL with some random numbers that they shouldn't see. That's why the subject is a bit problematic, because some users want to see/alter the Page Name/ URL; while others don't care it exists. I also don't like the configuration proposal, since it's always hard to test all combinations of configurations and we need to decide on the default. Not sure about changing it in the Base Flavor, since not all Flavors users might need it. The UIX could be a solution in order to use it just by some Flavors. What is really interesting and good to know is that indeed the Page Name / URL are important for Knowledge Bases (KB). Still in KBs the content creators are not that many (compared to readers) and they usually are the wiki gardeners, and they tend to be 'advanced' users. The smallest / simplest changes would indeed be in the labels wording and descriptions. Also the 'URL' mention instead of Page Name. Thanks, Caty On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Vishalwrote: > Hi all.. > Thanks for taking the issue this much seriously. > > Hi Vincent.. > > Hey, you’re from Pune? :) I’ve been there about 15 times! > Hey, you are welcome again.. I would expect you to drop me an email while > visiting Pune next time :) > > > Normal users don't generally care about their URLs and SEO. > Hi Caty.. > You are definitely correct about SEO as simple users don't even know what > SEO is. > But I am very sure that even simple users do care about URLs. For instance, > we share all our educational articles on our wiki in chats, like in > WhatsApp, Facebook, Gmail, and what not. And they often ask me to clean the > encoded URLs for them. In last 15 days for instance, I had to rename about > 250 pages.. > > I don’t fully agree with you. I have the feeling (can’t prove it) > And I guess this is what Vincent felt but couldn't prove. > > > But for your use case you shoyld write a shorting/trimming algorithm, but > > this is custom > Yes I agree. It should be custom because not all will want such trimming of > URLs. > > >It may generate nicer urls but they’re not perfect either. They’re a bit > longish from what I see > I think we can't and shouldn't force anyone to have short URLs. Long URL > doesn't seem a problem for us, but inability to shorten them in the first > place indeed is. > I disagree with having any shortening algorithm as even we do use full > names > in URLs at certain places. e.g. /Pune-University > > My Proposal: > I strongly agree with Vincent about Create Page UI like AWM. This is what > we > think will be most user friendly. (Sorry, couldn't upload images but rough > layout) > > *Title: (Tip: Title as shown on Page/Document) > [Title Textbox] > > URL: (Tip: this is a webaddress) > [Non editable initial part of URL][Textbox for last part of URL] > > Location: (Tip: location of page in wiki) > [Documents tree/Parent]* > > In above layout, we could use algorithm at URL section just to make them > more readable (removing ecoded characters), nothing else. > > And it would be nice to have this universally editable, no need of any > options like ALWAYS, NEVER, etc. Also no need to restrict it to just > advanced users, because mostly users who could create a page would know > about URLs. > > Very much thanks for this wonderful discussion. > Regards, > Vishal > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble. > com/Page-Title-and-Name-confusion-tp7603546p7603588.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki User Group Lyon ?
The idea is very nice Thomas. Ideally we should also have remote meetings to know each other better. Like once a month over hangout or other open-source services like https://talky.io or https://meet.jit.si/. Usually people participating in these meeting want to have the local ones too. Maybe someone is interested in meeting in Iasi, Romania? :) (your thread has just been hijacked :P) Thanks, Caty On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Mortagnewrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in a XWiki User Group in > Lyon (France). > > The idea would be to meet on a regular basis (It depends a lot how > many people are interested and I guess it's a discussion to have > during the first meeting but something like once every 4 months for > example). The idea would be to have short talks (something like 15/20 > minutes) on various subjects (here are some examples on my side: talk > about new features, present the intranet of "Atelier des Médias" > coworking association which is based on XWiki, etc.) and then spend a > nice evening discussing and eat/drink stuff. > > WDYT ? > > -- > Thomas Mortagne >
Re: [xwiki-users] location of footnotes
It seems like a bug for CkEditor and Footnote macro. You should report it on https://jira.xwiki.org You could manually set the footnotes from Wiki syntax, see http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Footnote%20Macro http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Put%20Footnotes%20Macro Thanks, Caty On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Vishalwrote: > I have a page: > > ==section 1== > > ==section 2== > footnote > > ==section 3== > > ==references== > > > the footnote is given in section 2. > after editing a whole page footnote reference is auto inserted at page > bottom.. i.e. ==references== here. > this is what i want. > > but when i edit the section 2 only (not whole page), the footnote is > inserted at the bottom of section 2 itself instead of the bottom of whole > page (==references==). > > what can i do to avoid this? currently, i need to delete the footnote > reference manually everytime i edit the section 2. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble. > com/location-of-footnotes-tp7603329.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
Re: [xwiki-users] [UX] Administration Improvements
Hi all, For the record, Marius Florea and me proposed some improvements for Administration, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Administration9x There are many topics that can be targeted in Administration and they are considered for future proposals (like Rights, Templates improvements, etc.) since they are more complex to tackle. We focused now on prioritizing often-used sections and improving the hints / values and make the styling more consistent. Feedback is welcomed. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Denis, > > Thanks for your feedback. > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Denis GERMAIN <dt.germ...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We are running multiple flavors of Xwiki including 7.4.4 (production), >> 8.4.4 and 9.0 >> >> 1. what sections are always needed and maybe we could prioritize them; >> Users and Groups are the most heavily used menu in administration for us >> We also rely heavily on Import/Exports >> >> 2. what sections could be grouped together, since they are related; >> >> 3. what sections are not relevant and could be removed (maybe because they >> are too technical, or not needed or rarely used); >> Creating subwikis is sometime used so it shouldn't be dropped (for us) >> Templates are not often used but really important to us >> >> 4. if there are important recurring things missing from administration; >> There is no easy way to troubleshoot users rights on a page. In other >> words, sometime users set rights on "pages and children" OR "pages", and >> it >> causes all sort of trouble >> - some users can't see some pages but they should (due to misconfiugration >> of the rights) >> - some users can open pages with the direct link but can't navigate to it >> a) I don't see why there is 2 types of rights on a page, I would >> personnaly >> keep only "pages and children" rights and drop "page only" rights >> > > This is when you need to make exceptions: you want all the children to > behave in a certain way, but the parent or a certain subpage to have > different rights. I agree it's a more marginal use case, but still it could > happen. > > >> b) To troubleshoot, I'd like to have a way to see why some users can see >> the page and some don't, or to help me find where the problem is >> > > I agree the rights inheritance is problematic and yes we should improve it > (in terms of setting it and display the applied rules). This functionality > gets outside of the scope of this Administration > reorganization/simplification, but it's indeed very important (and > apparently a common problem). > > >> >> 5. other ideas? >> I find the Template creation (with provider) procedure counter intuitive. >> Maybe it could be simplified ? >> > > We added some new functionality in terms of visibility and creation > restrictions for templates, but they were intended more as powerful > features, we didn't focus on simplifying the process. Yes, we could do some > improvements there too, especially since we have started promoting > Templates more. > > Thank you so much, > Caty > > >> 2017-02-23 11:28 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com>: >> >> > Thanks Stéphane for your answer. It's very helpful. >> > >> > Caty >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Stéphane LASSIRE < >> slass...@cesap.asso.fr >> > > >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > What a nice idea. >> > > We are using a Xwiki 7.4.4 release. >> > > >> > > 1. what sections are always needed and maybe we could prioritize them; >> > > -> Users / groups / right access / extensions / statistics >> > > >> > > 2. what sections could be grouped together, since they are related; >> > > -> Configuration / Look / Email >> > > >> > > 3. what sections are not relevant and could be removed (maybe because >> > they >> > > are too technical, or not needed or rarely used); >> > > -> wikis (we are using only 1 instance, so no need of multi configs >> for >> > us) >> > > >> > > 4. if there are important recurring things missing from >> administration; >> > > -> rights "inspector", not really to know the right of a page inside a >> > > space >> > > for all users and groups >> > > -> activity of a group / user. I try t
Re: [xwiki-users] [UX] Administration Improvements
Hi Denis, Thanks for your feedback. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Denis GERMAIN <dt.germ...@gmail.com> wrote: > We are running multiple flavors of Xwiki including 7.4.4 (production), > 8.4.4 and 9.0 > > 1. what sections are always needed and maybe we could prioritize them; > Users and Groups are the most heavily used menu in administration for us > We also rely heavily on Import/Exports > > 2. what sections could be grouped together, since they are related; > > 3. what sections are not relevant and could be removed (maybe because they > are too technical, or not needed or rarely used); > Creating subwikis is sometime used so it shouldn't be dropped (for us) > Templates are not often used but really important to us > > 4. if there are important recurring things missing from administration; > There is no easy way to troubleshoot users rights on a page. In other > words, sometime users set rights on "pages and children" OR "pages", and it > causes all sort of trouble > - some users can't see some pages but they should (due to misconfiugration > of the rights) > - some users can open pages with the direct link but can't navigate to it > a) I don't see why there is 2 types of rights on a page, I would personnaly > keep only "pages and children" rights and drop "page only" rights > This is when you need to make exceptions: you want all the children to behave in a certain way, but the parent or a certain subpage to have different rights. I agree it's a more marginal use case, but still it could happen. > b) To troubleshoot, I'd like to have a way to see why some users can see > the page and some don't, or to help me find where the problem is > I agree the rights inheritance is problematic and yes we should improve it (in terms of setting it and display the applied rules). This functionality gets outside of the scope of this Administration reorganization/simplification, but it's indeed very important (and apparently a common problem). > > 5. other ideas? > I find the Template creation (with provider) procedure counter intuitive. > Maybe it could be simplified ? > We added some new functionality in terms of visibility and creation restrictions for templates, but they were intended more as powerful features, we didn't focus on simplifying the process. Yes, we could do some improvements there too, especially since we have started promoting Templates more. Thank you so much, Caty > 2017-02-23 11:28 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com>: > > > Thanks Stéphane for your answer. It's very helpful. > > > > Caty > > > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Stéphane LASSIRE < > slass...@cesap.asso.fr > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > What a nice idea. > > > We are using a Xwiki 7.4.4 release. > > > > > > 1. what sections are always needed and maybe we could prioritize them; > > > -> Users / groups / right access / extensions / statistics > > > > > > 2. what sections could be grouped together, since they are related; > > > -> Configuration / Look / Email > > > > > > 3. what sections are not relevant and could be removed (maybe because > > they > > > are too technical, or not needed or rarely used); > > > -> wikis (we are using only 1 instance, so no need of multi configs for > > us) > > > > > > 4. if there are important recurring things missing from administration; > > > -> rights "inspector", not really to know the right of a page inside a > > > space > > > for all users and groups > > > -> activity of a group / user. I try to put a counter inside pages to > see > > > if > > > it is accessed but it a basic solution. I would like to see how much > some > > > pages are viewed. The statistics are limited on this part > > > > > > 5. other ideas? > > > -> see 4 > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Cordialement > > > > > > Stéphane Lassire > > > Chargé de l'informatique et de la communication > > > Courriel : slass...@cesap.asso.fr > > > > > > -Message d'origine- > > > De : users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] De la part de Ecaterina > > Moraru > > > (Valica) > > > Envoyé : mardi 21 février 2017 16:15 > > > À : XWiki Mailinglist; XWiki Mailinglist > > > Objet : [xwiki-users] [UX] Administration Improvements > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > We are thinking about improving the Administration, so would be great > to > > > hear your opinion about: > > > 1. what sections are always needed and maybe we could prioritize them; > 2. > > > what sections could be grouped together, since they are related; 3. > what > > > sections are not relevant and could be removed (maybe because they are > > too > > > technical, or not needed or rarely used); 4. if there are important > > > recurring things missing from administration; 5. other ideas? > > > > > > We are particularly interested in 1. and that is sections that are used > > > often and would love to know which are those (since they differ so much > > > depending on usage). > > > > > > Let us know, > > > Caty > > > > > >
Re: [xwiki-users] [UX] Administration Improvements
Thanks Stéphane for your answer. It's very helpful. Caty On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Stéphane LASSIRE <slass...@cesap.asso.fr> wrote: > Hello, > > What a nice idea. > We are using a Xwiki 7.4.4 release. > > 1. what sections are always needed and maybe we could prioritize them; > -> Users / groups / right access / extensions / statistics > > 2. what sections could be grouped together, since they are related; > -> Configuration / Look / Email > > 3. what sections are not relevant and could be removed (maybe because they > are too technical, or not needed or rarely used); > -> wikis (we are using only 1 instance, so no need of multi configs for us) > > 4. if there are important recurring things missing from administration; > -> rights "inspector", not really to know the right of a page inside a > space > for all users and groups > -> activity of a group / user. I try to put a counter inside pages to see > if > it is accessed but it a basic solution. I would like to see how much some > pages are viewed. The statistics are limited on this part > > 5. other ideas? > -> see 4 > > Thanks > > Cordialement > > Stéphane Lassire > Chargé de l'informatique et de la communication > Courriel : slass...@cesap.asso.fr > > -Message d'origine- > De : users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] De la part de Ecaterina Moraru > (Valica) > Envoyé : mardi 21 février 2017 16:15 > À : XWiki Mailinglist; XWiki Mailinglist > Objet : [xwiki-users] [UX] Administration Improvements > > Hi, > > We are thinking about improving the Administration, so would be great to > hear your opinion about: > 1. what sections are always needed and maybe we could prioritize them; 2. > what sections could be grouped together, since they are related; 3. what > sections are not relevant and could be removed (maybe because they are too > technical, or not needed or rarely used); 4. if there are important > recurring things missing from administration; 5. other ideas? > > We are particularly interested in 1. and that is sections that are used > often and would love to know which are those (since they differ so much > depending on usage). > > Let us know, > Caty >
[xwiki-users] [UX] Administration Improvements
Hi, We are thinking about improving the Administration, so would be great to hear your opinion about: 1. what sections are always needed and maybe we could prioritize them; 2. what sections could be grouped together, since they are related; 3. what sections are not relevant and could be removed (maybe because they are too technical, or not needed or rarely used); 4. if there are important recurring things missing from administration; 5. other ideas? We are particularly interested in 1. and that is sections that are used often and would love to know which are those (since they differ so much depending on usage). Let us know, Caty
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 7.4.6 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 7.4.6. This is a bugfix release that fixes important bugs discovered in the 7.4.5 version. This release is the last release for the 7.x cycle, since the 7.4 branch reached end of life on January 2017. You can download it using these links: JAR: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-installer-generic-7.4.6-standard.jar EXE: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-installer-windows-7.4.6.exe ZIP: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-jetty-hsqldb-7.4.6.zip WAR: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-web-7.4.6.war XAR: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki-all-7.4.6.xar Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Data/XWiki/7.4.6/ Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team
Re: [xwiki-users] List with Checkboxes
There was this extension that worked (haven't tested on latest versions) http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/TodoList+Application+using+emberjs Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Jesse Brightwrote: > I am making a several lists with tasks and associated checkboxes. The > checkbox data will not be stored or used in any way. It's only purpose is > as a reminder of tasks which have been completed. > > My best idea for achieving this is to write a wiki macro using the HTML > macro to insert a checkbox input. However this means I have to develop list > tabbing behavior and write my macro reference repeatedly in each list space. > > Does any one know of a better or easier way to create a checkbox list? > > Regards, > > Jesse > >
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Brainstorming] XWiki stickers
FTR, we've iterated with George (who did most of the work) and proposed A.4.1-3, for the Standard category. We are still waiting for proposals for the other categories, especially if you have ideas about messages suited to explain/promote XWiki. Thanks, Caty On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com > wrote: > We are starting to gather some proposals there. > > We have 3 proposals for Standard category (A); 2 for Event category (B) > and 12 for Original category (C). > > I personally like A.1 and maybe have A.3 in the same style as A.1 (but > have the original logo). A.1 should just keep the url, since "Just us on" > would be hard to read. > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Ludovic Dubost <ludo...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >> Le 8 janv. 2017 02:15, "Eduard Moraru" <enygma2...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >> I`ve added your attachments to the list of previews. They look a bit odd >> (smaller, with some extra padding) as SVGs, but the browser seems to be >> able to handle them now. >> >> >> I made then with inkscape on mac. I found the initial svg that I loaded >> not >> looking exactly as the PNG so there must be some compatibility issue >> >> Ludo >> >> >> >> >> Let`s see some more, including in the "Messages" section. We should have a >> preview of how those stickers would look like. Will probably add one >> around >> Monday. >> >> Thanks, >> Eduard >> >> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Ludovic Dubost <ludo...@xwiki.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi Edy, >> > >> > Great initiative ! I've put some ideas as SVGs attachment to the page >> > >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiSticker >> s#Attachments >> > >> > Ludovic >> > >> > >> > -- >> > *Ludovic Dubost* >> > *Founder and CEO* >> > ludo...@xwiki.com >> > skype: ldubost >> > Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org >> > >> > On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Hello, fellow XWiki community members, >> > > >> > > Since XWiki will be participating at this year's FOSDEM ( >> www.fosdem.org) >> > > open source meeting in Brussels and since we never did spend some time >> to >> > > think about XWiki sticker that would help promote our community, we >> > invite >> > > everybody to chip in with *ideas on how XWiki stickers should look >> like*. >> > > >> > > We would like to focus on *thumb-sized* (vertical/badge; horizontal >> with >> > > text) stickers in a couple of formats: >> > > 1) X logo + "xwiki.org" under (standard XWiki sticker) >> > > 2) Horizontal message/quote + "xwiki.org" under it (get creative on >> the >> > > messages) >> > > 3) FOSDEM or other open source event flavored sticker (we have one >> idea, >> > > others are welcomed) >> > > 4) Anything text/graphic XWiki-related (or about open source, wikis, >> > etc.), >> > > within the size restrictions, for the more talented/creative ones out >> > there >> > > :) >> > > >> > > Other inspiration and resources: >> > > http://www.unixstickers.com/stickers >> > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Standards/ColorsLogo >> > > https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Media >> > > https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Logo >> > > >> > > Please use this wiki page to share your ideas or designs (or even >> reply >> > to >> > > this mail, but the wiki page would be nicer :) ): >> > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiStickers >> > > >> > > The deadline is *end of Wednesday, 11th January, 2016*. You can >> continue >> > > contributing after this date as well, since ideas are always welcomed, >> > but >> > > they will probably be printed for future events. >> > > >> > > It`s a short notice, but FOSDEM is close and we can do more >> brainstorming >> > > rounds in the future as well. >> > > >> > > XWiki SAS is going to handle the printing of the logos around the end >> of >> > > this week or next week. >> > > >> > > We will come back with the results and you can come to FOSDEM at >> XWiki's >> > > booth to talk to us and grab some stickers to enjoy and share yourself >> ;) >> > > >> > > The plan is to eventually create a stickers page on xwiki.org where >> > > everybody can download and print XWiki stickers themselves. It should >> > > include both generally approved XWiki stickers but also community made >> > > ones. >> > > >> > > Looking forward to your ideas, >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Eduard >> > > >> > >> > >
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [Brainstorming] XWiki stickers
We are starting to gather some proposals there. We have 3 proposals for Standard category (A); 2 for Event category (B) and 12 for Original category (C). I personally like A.1 and maybe have A.3 in the same style as A.1 (but have the original logo). A.1 should just keep the url, since "Just us on" would be hard to read. Thanks, Caty On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Ludovic Dubostwrote: > Le 8 janv. 2017 02:15, "Eduard Moraru" a écrit : > > I`ve added your attachments to the list of previews. They look a bit odd > (smaller, with some extra padding) as SVGs, but the browser seems to be > able to handle them now. > > > I made then with inkscape on mac. I found the initial svg that I loaded not > looking exactly as the PNG so there must be some compatibility issue > > Ludo > > > > > Let`s see some more, including in the "Messages" section. We should have a > preview of how those stickers would look like. Will probably add one around > Monday. > > Thanks, > Eduard > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote: > > > Hi Edy, > > > > Great initiative ! I've put some ideas as SVGs attachment to the page > > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ > XWikiStickers#Attachments > > > > Ludovic > > > > > > -- > > *Ludovic Dubost* > > *Founder and CEO* > > ludo...@xwiki.com > > skype: ldubost > > Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Eduard Moraru > > wrote: > > > > > Hello, fellow XWiki community members, > > > > > > Since XWiki will be participating at this year's FOSDEM ( > www.fosdem.org) > > > open source meeting in Brussels and since we never did spend some time > to > > > think about XWiki sticker that would help promote our community, we > > invite > > > everybody to chip in with *ideas on how XWiki stickers should look > like*. > > > > > > We would like to focus on *thumb-sized* (vertical/badge; horizontal > with > > > text) stickers in a couple of formats: > > > 1) X logo + "xwiki.org" under (standard XWiki sticker) > > > 2) Horizontal message/quote + "xwiki.org" under it (get creative on > the > > > messages) > > > 3) FOSDEM or other open source event flavored sticker (we have one > idea, > > > others are welcomed) > > > 4) Anything text/graphic XWiki-related (or about open source, wikis, > > etc.), > > > within the size restrictions, for the more talented/creative ones out > > there > > > :) > > > > > > Other inspiration and resources: > > > http://www.unixstickers.com/stickers > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Standards/ColorsLogo > > > https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Media > > > https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Logo > > > > > > Please use this wiki page to share your ideas or designs (or even reply > > to > > > this mail, but the wiki page would be nicer :) ): > > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/XWikiStickers > > > > > > The deadline is *end of Wednesday, 11th January, 2016*. You can > continue > > > contributing after this date as well, since ideas are always welcomed, > > but > > > they will probably be printed for future events. > > > > > > It`s a short notice, but FOSDEM is close and we can do more > brainstorming > > > rounds in the future as well. > > > > > > XWiki SAS is going to handle the printing of the logos around the end > of > > > this week or next week. > > > > > > We will come back with the results and you can come to FOSDEM at > XWiki's > > > booth to talk to us and grab some stickers to enjoy and share yourself > ;) > > > > > > The plan is to eventually create a stickers page on xwiki.org where > > > everybody can download and print XWiki stickers themselves. It should > > > include both generally approved XWiki stickers but also community made > > > ones. > > > > > > Looking forward to your ideas, > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Eduard > > > > > >
Re: [xwiki-users] Lots of questions and issues
Hi Mario, So each problem should be reported as an individual issue in the appropriate component. You should first check if there are not already opened issues with that particular problem (use the search with keywords). For example, these are the issues related to PDF Export http://jira.xwiki.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20XWIKI%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22Old%20Core%20-%20PDF%20export%22%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC Regarding questions, it's the same: each topic should have a separate mail thread. This way we can assure we stay on subject and the mail can be referenced to other users, in case they have the same questions. The only problem is the quantity of questions you ask and the availability of the committers and contributors to answer them, since this is a community support. Sometimes it can take a while, especially if there are complicated aspects. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Hofstätter Mario < mario.hofstaet...@automationx.com> wrote: > Dear devs, > > over the past few months we have moved over to using xwiki as a > replacement for your old sharepoint and mediawiki servers. Meanwhile we > have accumulated a list of problems and questions we are unable to solve. > Some of which open JIRA bugs might already exist. > > In my opinion this mailinglist is not suitable for this many questions > (needs attachments, screenshots). How may we proceed? Should we create a > jira entry for every issue? > > An extract of some problems (now running 8.4.3): > - PDF Export: The pdf misses some elements of the page, for example > display of info/warn/error marcros (see your sandbox page info and warning > macro examples) and other stuff. Layout has big issues (images cut off, > Tables cut off) > - Multipage PDF Export: Pdf export collection extension is broken, > MultipagePdfExport Space Export extension too. > - No image lightbox by default, unclear how to implement it in the wysiwyg > editor > - Document tree is really cumbersome for normal users (we use currently > use some velocity to show children), new children macro insufficient (shows > translations and attachment) > - DocumentTree Macro "finder" does not work correctly (finds only some > pages?) > > As for just "questions", should be ask each one of them in an separate > mail here on the list? > > Thank you very much, > Mario >
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 8.4.3 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 8.4.3. This release is a bugfix release that brings usability improvements to the Drawer, Wiki Index and Template Providers. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Data/XWiki/8.4.3/ Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team
Re: [xwiki-users] [UX][Proposal] Administration Overview
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AdministrationOverview On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com > wrote: > Hi, > > This is a idea proposal for an Administration Overview that: > A. Provides generic/global information about the instance like 'version', > 'instance id', etc. > B. Provides a summary of usage listing count of major entities (wikis, > users, pages, extensions, etc.) > C. Lists demo content installed in the wiki > D. Provides a way for administrators to subscribe to the XWiki Community > > I'm curios which of the above section sounds interesting to you and would > like to see inside the product. Also maybe you have other ideas of what is > missing or could be represented better. > > Thanks, > Caty >
[xwiki-users] [UX][Proposal] Administration Overview
Hi, This is a idea proposal for an Administration Overview that: A. Provides generic/global information about the instance like 'version', 'instance id', etc. B. Provides a summary of usage listing count of major entities (wikis, users, pages, extensions, etc.) C. Lists demo content installed in the wiki D. Provides a way for administrators to subscribe to the XWiki Community I'm curios which of the above section sounds interesting to you and would like to see inside the product. Also maybe you have other ideas of what is missing or could be represented better. Thanks, Caty
Re: [xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 8.2.2 released
You can download using this link: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Download/DownloadVersion/?projectVersion=8.2.2 Thanks, Caty On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Mariowrote: > The downloadlink has not been updated yet? > > BR > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble. > com/ANN-XWiki-8-2-2-released-tp7601945p7601963.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
Re: [xwiki-users] [VOTE] Drawer reorganisation
Hi, Thanks to everyone who voted. Results as of 28 Nov can be seen here http://jira.xwiki.org/secure/attachment/33281/28NovResults.png Point III is still ambiguous. We will discuss the final selection and implementation in http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13070 Thanks again, Caty On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > If you want to participate in a quick survey about the Drawer > reorganization, please answer these questions: > https://goo.gl/forms/WLlAjUGMqaZbUR2l1 > > (you need a Google account for the form) > > Thanks, > Ecaterina Moraru and Guillaume Delhumeau > > > P.S This is a summary/vote mail about the discussions we had on the > "Re-organize the Drawer's entries" thread http://xwiki.markmail.org/ > thread/6qjwzvteeazlbtn4 > > > P.P.S If you don't have a Google account you can give punctual feedback on > the following differences: > > I. Separation: None (A) vs. Local+Global actions (B) > See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > DrawerImprovement/Choice1.png > > II. Index Wording: With (A) ["User Index"] vs. Without 'Index' (B) > ["Users"] > See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > DrawerImprovement/ChoiceWording.png > > III. Main Wiki Wording: "Global" (A) vs. "Main Wiki" (B) vs. "Home" (C) > See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > DrawerImprovement/ChoiceSeparation2.png > > IV. Log-out Icon: Without (A) vs. With (B) > See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > DrawerImprovement/ChoiceLogoutIcon.png > > V. Log-out Position: In Header (A) vs. After actions (B) vs. Drawer Footer > (C) > See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > DrawerImprovement/ChoiceLogoutPosition.png > > VI. Administration Wording: "Administer wiki" (A) vs. "Administration" (B) > vs. "Wiki Settings" (C) > See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > DrawerImprovement/ChoiceAdministration.png > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [VOTE] Drawer reorganisation
Hi, If you want to participate in a quick survey about the Drawer reorganization, please answer these questions: https://goo.gl/forms/WLlAjUGMqaZbUR2l1 (you need a Google account for the form) Thanks, Ecaterina Moraru and Guillaume Delhumeau P.S This is a summary/vote mail about the discussions we had on the "Re-organize the Drawer's entries" thread http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/6qjwzvteeazlbtn4 P.P.S If you don't have a Google account you can give punctual feedback on the following differences: I. Separation: None (A) vs. Local+Global actions (B) See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/DrawerImprovement/Choice1.png II. Index Wording: With (A) ["User Index"] vs. Without 'Index' (B) ["Users"] See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/DrawerImprovement/ChoiceWording.png III. Main Wiki Wording: "Global" (A) vs. "Main Wiki" (B) vs. "Home" (C) See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/DrawerImprovement/ChoiceSeparation2.png IV. Log-out Icon: Without (A) vs. With (B) See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/DrawerImprovement/ChoiceLogoutIcon.png V. Log-out Position: In Header (A) vs. After actions (B) vs. Drawer Footer (C) See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/DrawerImprovement/ChoiceLogoutPosition.png VI. Administration Wording: "Administer wiki" (A) vs. "Administration" (B) vs. "Wiki Settings" (C) See: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/DrawerImprovement/ChoiceAdministration.png ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Re-organize the Drawer's entries
The Navigation additions of P6 are better suited for Wiki Index application, than the Drawer. So from what we currently have P5 looks like the better candidate (if nobody else has any other suggestions) (and because of its focus on local actions), but we need to fix the naming inconsistencies. Thanks, Caty On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > P6: http://jira.xwiki.org/secure/attachment/33161/P6.png > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Guillaume, >> >> Thanks for starting this thread. >> >> -- >> Current Drawer analysis: >> >> Languages( L / G ) >> --- >> Home ( G ) [N] >> --- >> Administer wiki ( L ) [A] [W] >> --- >> Wiki Index ( G ) [I] [W] >> Page Index ( L ) [I] >> User Index ( L / G ) [I] >> Applications Index ( L)[I] >> --- >> Create wiki ( G ) [A] [W] >> --- >> Delete wiki ( L ) [A] [W] >> >> >> L = Local/Wiki setting/action/effect >> G = Global/Farm setting/action/effect >> >> N = Navigation >> A = Action >> W = Wiki entity >> >> -- >> >> Some examples of grouping: >> 1. Local / Global effect grouping (ex. Main/Subwiki actions should be >> grouped) >> 2. Entities grouping (Wiki related actions should be grouped: create, >> administer, delete, etc.) >> 3. Index grouping (group all index applications together) >> 4. Navigation grouping (to Main wiki or other wikis) >> 5. Actions grouping >> 6. other? >> >> So the main question is what grouping would we want to prioritize first: >> 1-5? >> >> -- >> >> Some things to consider: >> A. Naming consistency: >> A1. Across wiki: we need to consider the terms usage. For example Home >> vs. Homepage; Wiki vs. Subwiki; Settings vs. Administration; Wiki Index vs. >> Browse all wikis vs. Show all wikis >> -- We need to align these usages and pick the one most relevant for the >> end user and correct as terminology >> A2. Across the menu: this implies having all entries plural/singular or >> having the same additional text (ex. do we mark Indexes the same way? >> Administer wiki / Delete this wiki / Create a new wiki, etc.) >> >> B. Explicit (vs. Cryptic) >> -- how explicit should we make the labels vs. icons usage >> >> C. Quick access to local actions >> -- in subwikis we should optimize for local actions and try to display >> them first, since some teams might have dedicated wikis and the main wiki >> could be used just as a portal or as a farm >> >> D. Order most used actions first >> -- for example 'Delete wiki' is not a very used action >> >> E. Navigation vs. Actions grouping >> E1. Actions removal >> -- for example we could even remove 'Delete wiki' action and consider >> that the wiki management actions can be accessed just from Wiki Index >> -- this would mean that 'Administrate wiki' would be removed too, and we >> use that action a lot in the initial configuration phases, so that would >> increase the time to reach Administration >> E2. Adding more wiki navigation >> -- For example http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12538 talks about >> having a way to add quick access to other subwikis (ideally as favorites, >> since listing all wikis does not scale) >> >> -- >> >> Proposals grouping feedback: >> Current. -1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), partial 4 >> (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), -C (Quick access) >> P1. -1 (Local/Global), partial 2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (indexes), partial 4 >> (Navigation), partial 5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), -C (Quick >> access) >> P2. partial 1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), partial 3 (Indexes), -4 >> (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), +C (Quick access) >> P3. partial 1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), -4 >> (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), +C (Quick access) >> P4. -1 (Local/Global), partial 2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), -4 >> (Navigation), +5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), partial C (Quick >&
Re: [xwiki-users] Re-organize the Drawer's entries
P6: http://jira.xwiki.org/secure/attachment/33161/P6.png On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Guillaume, > > Thanks for starting this thread. > > -- > Current Drawer analysis: > > Languages( L / G ) > --- > Home ( G ) [N] > --- > Administer wiki ( L ) [A] [W] > --- > Wiki Index ( G ) [I] [W] > Page Index ( L ) [I] > User Index ( L / G ) [I] > Applications Index ( L)[I] > --- > Create wiki ( G ) [A] [W] > --- > Delete wiki ( L ) [A] [W] > > > L = Local/Wiki setting/action/effect > G = Global/Farm setting/action/effect > > N = Navigation > A = Action > W = Wiki entity > > -- > > Some examples of grouping: > 1. Local / Global effect grouping (ex. Main/Subwiki actions should be > grouped) > 2. Entities grouping (Wiki related actions should be grouped: create, > administer, delete, etc.) > 3. Index grouping (group all index applications together) > 4. Navigation grouping (to Main wiki or other wikis) > 5. Actions grouping > 6. other? > > So the main question is what grouping would we want to prioritize first: > 1-5? > > -- > > Some things to consider: > A. Naming consistency: > A1. Across wiki: we need to consider the terms usage. For example Home vs. > Homepage; Wiki vs. Subwiki; Settings vs. Administration; Wiki Index vs. > Browse all wikis vs. Show all wikis > -- We need to align these usages and pick the one most relevant for the > end user and correct as terminology > A2. Across the menu: this implies having all entries plural/singular or > having the same additional text (ex. do we mark Indexes the same way? > Administer wiki / Delete this wiki / Create a new wiki, etc.) > > B. Explicit (vs. Cryptic) > -- how explicit should we make the labels vs. icons usage > > C. Quick access to local actions > -- in subwikis we should optimize for local actions and try to display > them first, since some teams might have dedicated wikis and the main wiki > could be used just as a portal or as a farm > > D. Order most used actions first > -- for example 'Delete wiki' is not a very used action > > E. Navigation vs. Actions grouping > E1. Actions removal > -- for example we could even remove 'Delete wiki' action and consider that > the wiki management actions can be accessed just from Wiki Index > -- this would mean that 'Administrate wiki' would be removed too, and we > use that action a lot in the initial configuration phases, so that would > increase the time to reach Administration > E2. Adding more wiki navigation > -- For example http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12538 talks about > having a way to add quick access to other subwikis (ideally as favorites, > since listing all wikis does not scale) > > -- > > Proposals grouping feedback: > Current. -1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), partial 4 > (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), -C (Quick access) > P1. -1 (Local/Global), partial 2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (indexes), partial 4 > (Navigation), partial 5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), -C (Quick > access) > P2. partial 1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), partial 3 (Indexes), -4 > (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), +C (Quick access) > P3. partial 1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), -4 > (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), +C (Quick access) > P4. -1 (Local/Global), partial 2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), -4 > (Navigation), +5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), partial C (Quick > access) > > -- > > The problem is that when you approach an usability problem using these > kind of grouping / grading it's very easy to fall in the 'technicalities' > trap and not think about the user perspective. > > So although I understand why I proposed P1-4, for users it will not make > sense. That's why I like P5, because the grouping comes natural and is more > explicit, although is not using the consistent terminology. > > P5: +1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), -3 (Indexes), partial 4 > (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || -A2 (Naming consistency), -A1 (Across wiki), > +B (Explicit), +C (Quick access to local), ? D (Most used actions) > > Things to fix for
Re: [xwiki-users] Re-organize the Drawer's entries
Hi Guillaume, Thanks for starting this thread. -- Current Drawer analysis: Languages( L / G ) --- Home ( G ) [N] --- Administer wiki ( L ) [A] [W] --- Wiki Index ( G ) [I] [W] Page Index ( L ) [I] User Index ( L / G ) [I] Applications Index ( L)[I] --- Create wiki ( G ) [A] [W] --- Delete wiki ( L ) [A] [W] L = Local/Wiki setting/action/effect G = Global/Farm setting/action/effect N = Navigation A = Action W = Wiki entity -- Some examples of grouping: 1. Local / Global effect grouping (ex. Main/Subwiki actions should be grouped) 2. Entities grouping (Wiki related actions should be grouped: create, administer, delete, etc.) 3. Index grouping (group all index applications together) 4. Navigation grouping (to Main wiki or other wikis) 5. Actions grouping 6. other? So the main question is what grouping would we want to prioritize first: 1-5? -- Some things to consider: A. Naming consistency: A1. Across wiki: we need to consider the terms usage. For example Home vs. Homepage; Wiki vs. Subwiki; Settings vs. Administration; Wiki Index vs. Browse all wikis vs. Show all wikis -- We need to align these usages and pick the one most relevant for the end user and correct as terminology A2. Across the menu: this implies having all entries plural/singular or having the same additional text (ex. do we mark Indexes the same way? Administer wiki / Delete this wiki / Create a new wiki, etc.) B. Explicit (vs. Cryptic) -- how explicit should we make the labels vs. icons usage C. Quick access to local actions -- in subwikis we should optimize for local actions and try to display them first, since some teams might have dedicated wikis and the main wiki could be used just as a portal or as a farm D. Order most used actions first -- for example 'Delete wiki' is not a very used action E. Navigation vs. Actions grouping E1. Actions removal -- for example we could even remove 'Delete wiki' action and consider that the wiki management actions can be accessed just from Wiki Index -- this would mean that 'Administrate wiki' would be removed too, and we use that action a lot in the initial configuration phases, so that would increase the time to reach Administration E2. Adding more wiki navigation -- For example http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12538 talks about having a way to add quick access to other subwikis (ideally as favorites, since listing all wikis does not scale) -- Proposals grouping feedback: Current. -1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), partial 4 (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), -C (Quick access) P1. -1 (Local/Global), partial 2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (indexes), partial 4 (Navigation), partial 5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), -C (Quick access) P2. partial 1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), partial 3 (Indexes), -4 (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), +C (Quick access) P3. partial 1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), -4 (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), +C (Quick access) P4. -1 (Local/Global), partial 2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), -4 (Navigation), +5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), partial C (Quick access) -- The problem is that when you approach an usability problem using these kind of grouping / grading it's very easy to fall in the 'technicalities' trap and not think about the user perspective. So although I understand why I proposed P1-4, for users it will not make sense. That's why I like P5, because the grouping comes natural and is more explicit, although is not using the consistent terminology. P5: +1 (Local/Global), -2 (Wiki grouping), -3 (Indexes), partial 4 (Navigation), -5 (Actions) || -A2 (Naming consistency), -A1 (Across wiki), +B (Explicit), +C (Quick access to local), ? D (Most used actions) Things to fix for P5: - Think where to fit the "Languages" - A1 + A2: we need to think about the naming of Indexes (especially Wiki Index in this case) and fix them in drawer and across; replace Settings with Administration; fix the "Go to ..."; consistent actions naming. Additionally we should fix A1 (see http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9363) -- Before starting this thread I tried to rethink about a new solution and I came up with P6: -1 (Local/Global), +2 (Wiki grouping), +3 (Indexes), +4 (Navigation), +5 (Actions) || +A2 (Naming consistency), -A1 (Across wiki), -B (Cryptic/Iconography), -C (Quick access), ? D (Most used actions), +E2 (More navigation) i) Having Indexes
Re: [xwiki-users] checklist creation and use
Also this is interesting http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/TodoList+Application+using+emberjs but it's an older extension. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Vincent Massolwrote: > Hi, > > > On 10 Oct 2016, at 20:16, shouldbe q931 wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Long time user, very infrequent poster... > > > > I'm looking for something for users of our xwiki to create checklists > > as something akin to a template, and then use the created checklist > > template, saving the completed checklist as a page. > > > > Any suggestions would be welcomed. > > I think Templates is what you’re asking for, see > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ > Administration+Application#HTemplates > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > > > Cheers > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 8.3 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki Enterprise 8.3. This release introduces Recommended Extensions both on extensions.xwiki.org and inside the Extension Manager. Other changes are page suggestions for non-existing page, exporting child pages in XAR and HTML formats and many more improvements. For developers, we added visibility and creation restrictions on template providers and also Velocity templates can be provided inside a JAR extension. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/Data/XWiki/8.3/ Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Flamingo color theme advanced Less
An alternative to Solution 1, step 2 (ovewriting the "less/style.less.vm") you could try this: Solution B: 1. In your skin, add the "less/advanced.less", as in http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ColorThemeforFlamingo/Advanced_step1.png 2. in your Flamingo Theme, add a SSX object, with Content Type: LESS (if you need velocity, you can make it parsable + I've made it global for the whole wiki, but you can manually call it) and write "@import("advanced.less");". Apparently the LESS compiler is looking only on files that are in the flamingo/less file system folder. So that's all you need to write, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ColorThemeforFlamingo/Advanced_step2B.png So besides this "less/advanced.less" you can break your code in as many file as you need. Hope this helps, Caty On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > The problem is that we cannot use velocity in the Flamingo Theme's > advanced section, so we cannot write @import "$xwiki.getSkinFile(' > advanced.less')"; > > So this means we need to go to the file where all the LESS files get > imported. This means "less/style.less.vm". There you need to add your > custom .less file, in our case I've called it "advanced.less", do it by > writing '@import "advanced";' at the end of the import list. Now be > careful, since you are overwriting this file, if you are going to make an > upgrade, you need to backport the official changes of this file to your > custom skin. > > Now you need to add the advanced.less file to your skin. Add it in the > overrides section, having the /less folder prefix, since there we expect > all LESS files to be present. > > In order to be easier to follow I've created a screenshot of a very small > change I've made (the body text should be colored blue), see > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ColorThemeforFlamingo/ > advancedLess.png > > So in conclusion you need to add 2 overrides to your skin (I've made my > changes to XWiki.DefaultSkin in order to test), for "less/advanced.less" > (where you will have your code) and "less/style.less.vm" (where you need to > copy the standard content of that file from the flamingo folder in your > file system + add the import to your custom less). The changes you will > have in advanced.less will be applied globally to your skin, independent of > the current Flamingo Theme. > > Hope this helps, > Caty > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek < > gerrit...@cdlsworld.org> wrote: > >> What would be the notation in the advanced box >> >> >> I now have: >> >> @import('custom.less') >> >> >> And I added custom.less as attachment to my skin-page. >> >> >> But this gives me a compile error on the less... >> >> >> Gerritjan Koekkoek >> Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS >> Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> >> Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> >> email<gerrit...@cdlsworld.org> >> >> >> >> >> From: users <users-boun...@xwiki.org> on behalf of Ecaterina Moraru >> (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> >> Sent: 26 September 2016 15:08:51 >> To: XWiki Users >> Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Flamingo color theme advanced Less >> >> You could attach your less files to the Skin page, especially since if you >> have advanced / big customizations is more the responsibility of the skin, >> rather than the color theme. >> >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek < >> gerrit...@cdlsworld.org >> > wrote: >> >> > Our Advanced box in the flamingo color theme is getting pretty Big (But >> it >> > works !) >> > >> > >> > But would it be possible to attach less files to the color theme page >> and >> > adding something like >> > >> > >> > @import("waihonabuttons.less") in the advanced box of the color >> theme? >> > >> > >> > What would I need in the part of the filename? >> > >> > >> > Gerritjan Koekkoek >> > Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS >> > Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> >> > Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> >> > email<gerrit...@cdlsworld.org> >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > users mailing list >> > users@xwiki.org >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > >> ___ >> users mailing list >> users@xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> ___ >> users mailing list >> users@xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Flamingo color theme advanced Less
The problem is that we cannot use velocity in the Flamingo Theme's advanced section, so we cannot write @import "$xwiki.getSkinFile('advanced.less')"; So this means we need to go to the file where all the LESS files get imported. This means "less/style.less.vm". There you need to add your custom .less file, in our case I've called it "advanced.less", do it by writing '@import "advanced";' at the end of the import list. Now be careful, since you are overwriting this file, if you are going to make an upgrade, you need to backport the official changes of this file to your custom skin. Now you need to add the advanced.less file to your skin. Add it in the overrides section, having the /less folder prefix, since there we expect all LESS files to be present. In order to be easier to follow I've created a screenshot of a very small change I've made (the body text should be colored blue), see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ColorThemeforFlamingo/advancedLess.png So in conclusion you need to add 2 overrides to your skin (I've made my changes to XWiki.DefaultSkin in order to test), for "less/advanced.less" (where you will have your code) and "less/style.less.vm" (where you need to copy the standard content of that file from the flamingo folder in your file system + add the import to your custom less). The changes you will have in advanced.less will be applied globally to your skin, independent of the current Flamingo Theme. Hope this helps, Caty On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek <gerrit...@cdlsworld.org > wrote: > What would be the notation in the advanced box > > > I now have: > > @import('custom.less') > > > And I added custom.less as attachment to my skin-page. > > > But this gives me a compile error on the less... > > > Gerritjan Koekkoek > Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS > Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> > Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> > email<gerrit...@cdlsworld.org> > > > > > From: users <users-boun...@xwiki.org> on behalf of Ecaterina Moraru > (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > Sent: 26 September 2016 15:08:51 > To: XWiki Users > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Flamingo color theme advanced Less > > You could attach your less files to the Skin page, especially since if you > have advanced / big customizations is more the responsibility of the skin, > rather than the color theme. > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek < > gerrit...@cdlsworld.org > > wrote: > > > Our Advanced box in the flamingo color theme is getting pretty Big (But > it > > works !) > > > > > > But would it be possible to attach less files to the color theme page and > > adding something like > > > > > > @import("waihonabuttons.less") in the advanced box of the color > theme? > > > > > > What would I need in the part of the filename? > > > > > > Gerritjan Koekkoek > > Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS > > Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> > > Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> > > email<gerrit...@cdlsworld.org> > > > > > > > > ___ > > users mailing list > > users@xwiki.org > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] mobile/tablet support for new templates
Hi, So yes the template are meant to work on mobile, but as you said the logic behind the order of sections could be improved. Regarding how to do it, you could change the order of the .col-xs-* containers and then use the '.pull-right' class for the contents section (to make sure it still looks the same for desktop). Would you be interested in providing a PR for these changes? The code is available at https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-templates/tree/master/application-templates-ui/src/main/resources/Templates Thanks, Caty On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:16 PM, superuserwrote: > The new 4 templates in 8.2 are nice. But the view on mobile need to be > corrected, i think.. e.g. the contents section of encyclopedia template > should come at top but currently its at bottom when view on small screens. > I > dont intend to change the template structure for large/ PC screens (they > are > really good), but want to adjust for small screens. > How can i do that? > Also any help on 'how to reorganize content view on mobile' is appreciated. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble. > com/mobile-tablet-support-for-new-templates-tp7600556.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Question about panel sizing
Hi, The width of panels is computed in layout.less. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Vincent Massolwrote: > Hi Rudi, > > > On 16 Aug 2016, at 13:58, Rudi Ritosalo wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am asking help on the matter of changing the left and right panel size > of the XWiki i've installed. I'm using a war installed Xwiki 8.1 with a > flamingo theme. So far from what I've gathered is > > that usable panel sizes are small, medium and large. What I'm looking > for is something between small and medium. Is there a .vm or a .css file in > the WAR package where I can modify > > the width of the panels manually? Or is there some other way to more > precisely alter the width of the panels? > > I don’t have a precise answer but I’d use your browser dev tools and use > CSS to find what to override. > > Then I’d use an SSX, see http://platform.xwiki.org/ > xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/SkinExtensionsTutorial > > IMO that’s better than changing the default since it’ll allow you to > upgrade with less problems in the future. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Rudi > > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Question regarding changing default format of Numbered Lists
Hi, The code you wrote should work just fine. Just add it to your custom skin or to a global SSX. Thanks, Caty On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:06 PM, rlarkinwrote: > Hello- > > I am a new user and I have a question regarding changing the default method > of numbering used for numbered lists. I am attempting to use xwiki to store > our company policy, which as of now is kept in a series of individual > documents. The difficulty is that management is insistent that I maintain > the current numbering schema used for numbered lists which is in the > format: > > A. Item One > 1. Sub-Item 1 > a. Sub-Sub Item 1 > > While I can do so manually using the xwiki syntax this is a great deal of > work when dealing with dozens of lists within hundreds of policies. In > addition I would like to make it as easy as possible for whomever comes > after me. I believe that the css code for something like this would be > something along the lines of: > > ol {list-style-type:upper-alpha;} > ol ol {list-style-type:decimal;} > ol ol ol {list-style-type:lower-alpha;} > > but I am uncertain as to whether this is the proper method of implementing > this change, and if so am uncertain as to where that code would go. Any > help > would be appreciated. > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble. > com/Question-regarding-changing-default-format-of- > Numbered-Lists-tp7600593.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 8.2.1 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 8.2.1. This is a bugfix release that fixes important bugs discovered in the 8.2 version. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki821/ Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 8.2 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 8.2. This release integrates CKEditor as the default WYSIWYG content editor. It also features a redesigned default homepage, a tour on the homepage to describe the XWiki user interface to newcomers, new default templates, a new application index in the drawer and a new administration UI to help manage available syntaxes. There are also minor improvements to the template providers, the Flamingo skin and Ratings. For developers, we have Livetable macro improvements and a long overdue change of behavior for the getRenderedContent() method. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki82 Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Flamingo color theme mapping on skin div's
@component-active-bg is not applied to any specific XWiki element (since with a search I see that it appears only in variables.less). But if you use default Bootstrap elements like navs and dropdowns, that value will be used. Which inherits brand-primary value, etc. //** Global background color for active items (e.g., navs or dropdowns). @component-active-bg: @brand-primary; To answer your questions you just need to search for a particular variable inside the .less files. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Gerritjan Koekkoek <gerrit...@cdlsworld.org > wrote: > Hi, > > > I understand all Less variables are from bootstrap. > > I also understand the less files that are linked to a color theme will > compile a style.css that is loaded on each page > > My question is how are they applied to XWiki default skin div's (id's or > classes) > > > Where is defined: > > #xwikimaincontainer will have a number of less variables (or not) > > > In other words: Which XWiki ID's an/or classes use: > > @brand-primary > > > And which XWiki ID's and/or classes are considered to get > @component-active-bg applied ? > > > Gerritjan Koekkoek > Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS > Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> > Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> > email<gerrit...@cdlsworld.org> > > > > > From: users <users-boun...@xwiki.org> on behalf of Ecaterina Moraru > (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > Sent: 12 July 2016 10:56:26 > To: XWiki Users > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Flamingo color theme mapping on skin div's > > Hi, > > @component-active-bg come from Bootstrap. > You can find about the default variables in variables.less. > > The way they were used can be found in the .less files. > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Gerritjan Koekkoek < > gerrit...@cdlsworld.org > > wrote: > > > Who has mapped the flamingo-colortheme on the skin-div's? > > > > Or is this documented anywhere ? > > > > > > what is default styled with Brand-primary, Brand-success, Brand-info, > > Brand-warning, Brand-danger > > > > what is @Component-active-color and @Component-active-bg > > > > > > > > Gerritjan Koekkoek > > Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS > > Visit our website<http://www.cdlsworld.org> > > Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/gerritjan.koekkoek> > > email<gerrit...@cdlsworld.org> > > > > > > > > ___ > > users mailing list > > users@xwiki.org > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Flamingo color theme mapping on skin div's
Hi, @component-active-bg come from Bootstrap. You can find about the default variables in variables.less. The way they were used can be found in the .less files. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Gerritjan Koekkoekwrote: > Who has mapped the flamingo-colortheme on the skin-div's? > > Or is this documented anywhere ? > > > what is default styled with Brand-primary, Brand-success, Brand-info, > Brand-warning, Brand-danger > > what is @Component-active-color and @Component-active-bg > > > > Gerritjan Koekkoek > Vader van Rai Koekkoek (cdls) en voorzitter vereniging CdLS > Visit our website > > > > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] How to test new language translation for XWiki user interface
Hi penguin, I'm sure you won't finish all the translations :) but any contribution is a step towards that direction :) Thanks, Caty On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 5:55 PM, penguinwrote: > Hi, > > I think I can add translations to l10n when I add user interface > translation > to my site. > > However, I am not sure that I can finish all of translation. > > Regards, > -Penguin > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/How-to-test-new-language-translation-for-XWiki-user-interface-tp7600215p7600224.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [Proposal] Comparing XWiki to MediaWiki and Confluence on xwiki.org
Hi, Since we had users asking on the IRC what are the differences between XWiki and other solutions, it would be a good idea to provide such pages on the website: - XWiki and MediaWiki http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-MediaWiki - XWiki and Confluence http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/XWiki-vs-Confluence It would be great to know if you agree with the listed content and if you find other similarities or distinctions between the above solutions. Additionally, what other solutions would you be interested in seeing comparison with? Thanks, Caty ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 8.1 Release Candidate 1 released released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 8.1 Release Candidate 1. This release candidate brings a couple of improvements and bugfixes to Extension Manager and other bundled components. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki81RC1 The following people have contributed code to this release (sorted alphabetically): Alexandru Cotiuga Clemens Robbenhaar Denis Gervalle Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) Guillaume Delhumeau Thomas Mortagne Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [UX][Brainstorming] Simplifying the Homepage
Hi, I would like to gather your ideas about how we could simplify the Homepage of XWiki Enterprise. - Maybe is something that doesn't make sense to have on it? - Maybe is something that is missing? Thanks, Caty Interaction Designer on behalf of XWiki Development Team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Advice on building simple app
Hi Tim, Have you tried using AWM? http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+Application After you have the structure you can try to modify the Sheet page and add conditionals. Thanks, Caty On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Tim Dudgeon < tdudg...@informaticsmatters.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm wanting to create a simple XWiki "app" and being new to this wanted to > get some advice before starting. > What I want is probably not too far removed from the FAQ app, so it may > well look a bit like this, but I wanted to get some pointers before heading > off in the wrong direction. > > The app is essentially a directory of "things" where each "thing" will be > its own wiki page, and there will be a master page that lists them all and > allow pagination, filtering etc. (livetable etc.) > The "things" will have a small number of "fields", not too different from > the FAQ app. But where it may differ is that the page for each "thing" > should also allow free form editing of the wiki page so that arbitrary > additional info can be added (even including scripts etc.) This arbitrary > extra info will just be part or the page, not part of the directory. > The page for each "thing" will therefore be a combination of structured > info (the fields) appearing at the top of the page in a consistent manner > across all pages), and non-structured info appearing below this. > > All advice greatly appreciated. > > Tim > > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 7.4.2 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 7.4.2. This is a bugfix release that fixes important bugs discovered in the 7.4.1 version. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki742 The following people have contributed code to this release (sorted alphabetically): Alexandru Cotiugă Denis Gervalle Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) Eduard Moraru Guillaume Delhumeau Sergiu Dumitriu Thomas Mortagne Vincent Massol Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Move to Java 8 as minimal version for XWiki 8.0+
+1 Thanks, Caty On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:11 PM, vinc...@massol.netwrote: > Hi devs, > > I’d like to propose that we move to Java 8 as the minimal Java version > supported for XWiki 8.0+. > > The rationale is: > > * Java 7 is end of life since April 2015. > * It brings [Default Methods| > https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/IandI/defaultmethods.html] > which would make retro compatibility a lot easier for us (it's very hard to > add new features to existing API right now). > * Required for: > ** Infinispan 8 > ** JGroups 4 > ** Jetty 9.3+ seems to require Java 8 (or maybe it's just optimized for > it, http://download.eclipse.org/jetty/ is not crystal clear about what > "Java 8+" means exactly) > > Nice to have > * Lambda Expressions > * Repeating Annotations which would probably allow us to use several times > \@Named instead of \@Component(hints=\{"hint1", "hint2"\}) for example > * New date/time APIs (pretty much what is in Joda Time). We should > refactor our $datetool velocity tool to make the java.time api available > from velocity > * more… > > See http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XCOMMONS-878 > > Here’s my +1 and my +1 to start requiring Java 8 for 8.0M2. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > ___ > devs mailing list > d...@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 8.0 Milestone 1 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 8.0 Milestone 1. This is the first milestone release of the 8.x cycle. With this occasion we deprecated and retired multiple projects like Colibri Skin, Color Themes, old XWiki 1.0 syntax, etc. We also continued to polish our Nested Pages feature introduced in 7.2, by adding improvements such as: asynchronous copy and rename page actions, improved location picker for simple users and the ability to omit "WebHome" in wiki links syntax. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki80M1 The following people have contributed code to this release (sorted alphabetically): Alexandru Cotiugă Denis Gervalle Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) Eduard Moraru Guillaume Delhumeau Marius Dumitru Florea Sergiu Dumitriu Thomas Mortagne Vincent Massol Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 7.1.4 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 7.1.4. This is a bugfix release that fixes important bugs discovered in the 7.1.3 version. We also retired the XML-RPC Integration since it led to security vulnerabilities. You can download it using these links: JAR: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-installer-generic-7.1.4-standard.jar EXE: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-installer-windows-7.1.4.exe ZIP: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-jetty-hsqldb-7.1.4.zip WAR: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-web-7.1.4.war XAR: http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki-all-7.1.4.xar Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki714 The following people have contributed code to this release (sorted alphabetically): Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) Eduard Moraru Marius Dumitru Florea Thomas Mortagne Vincent Massol Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] congratulations
Thanks Ricardo for all your nice words! :) Caty On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:12 AM, vinc...@massol.netwrote: > Hi Ricardo, > > We like these kind of messages! Keep them coming :) > > Thanks a lot for sharing this with us. > -Vincent > On 24 Nov 2015 at 15:54:41, [IDIS Technical Secretariat] Ricardo Rodríguez > (ricardo.rodrig...@idisantiago.es) wrote: > > Dears, > > I've just updated to XWiki 7.3. I'm really happy to keep enjoying XWiki and > to see how the framework is evolving. The interface is now cleaner, much > nicer. All behind the scene seems to me clearer release after release. > > Thanks for the effort! > > Warmest regards, > > Ricardo > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 7.3 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 7.3. This is a stabilisation release focusing on the Nested Pages feature which was introduced in XWiki 7.2. Lots of polishing has been done for the Nested Pages feature integration, targeting the consequences on the UI redesign and the changes at applications level. The release includes a couple of bug fixes, a few dependency upgrades and new UI extension points available for extension developers. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki73 The following people have contributed code to this release: Clemens Robbenhaar Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) Eduard Moraru Gabriela Smeria Guillaume Delhumeau Jean SIMARD Manuel Smeria Marius Dumitru Florea Pascal Bastien Sergiu Dumitriu Thomas Mortagne Vincent Massol Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] ForumApplication : Subscribe by mail ?
Search is again not working because of hidden, see http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XAFORUM-144 Still I am not aware of any watchlist filtering of hidden pages. Hidden pages can be viewed if you change in your Profile the "Display Hidden Pages" preference. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 4:12 PM, j3rem1ewrote: > Thanks for your answer, > > I have maybe something wrong with my setup : The watchlist and mail > notifications have always worked correctly in xwiki, but not in the forum > application (blog, faq and wiki pages work and send a notification each > time > the are updated). Moreover, the search function didn't work either on the > forum (maybe this two issues are linked ?). > > I have developped a workaround with a custom EventListener for the > notification. Ill try to search a little more why the native watchlist > doesn't work for me. > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/ForumApplication-Subscribe-by-mail-tp7596257p7596350.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] ForumApplication : Subscribe by mail ?
Hi, Forum app doesn't have something special implemented in order to send mails. The Watchlist feature should work, just make sure your mail server settings are correct. Regarding the apparence in the activity stream, this is related ti the fact the forum entities are hidden, but this won't affect the Watchlist feature. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:55 AM, j3rem1ewrote: > Subscribing to the space didn't work. > The forum application seems to store topics and answers in a hidden > document > (TopicXX and TopicAnswerXX), and this document doesn't appear in the > activity stream and (i suppose) are not notified through the watchlist > plugin ? > > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/ForumApplication-Subscribe-by-mail-tp7596257p7596272.html > Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 6.4.5 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 6.4.5. This is a stabilization release that fixes important bugs discovered in the 6.4.4 version. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki645 The following people have contributed code to this release: Anca Luca Denis Gervalle Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) Eduard Moraru Guillaume Delhumeau Jean SIMARD Manuel Smeria Marius Dumitru Florea Thomas Mortagne Vincent Massol Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Document autosave in xwiki 7.0.1
Hi, The feature is available only in Wiki editor, near the Save buttons. Regarding WYSIWYG, there is an issue about enabling it http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-8614 In the issue you also have pictures if you still can't find it. Thanks, Caty On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:58 AM, robert roberts.vart...@gmail.com wrote: According to this feature list http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/PageEditing there should be auto save feature in xwiki (also in 7.0.1?). Does it have to be explicitly enabled? I don't see it neither in WYSIWYG nor in source edit mode. -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Document-autosave-in-xwiki-7-0-1-tp7595321.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Document autosave in xwiki 7.0.1
Hi, You are showing me the WYSIWYG tabs, the Source one. The feature is available in the Wiki Editor. In order to access the Wiki editor, you should enable 'Advanced Mode', see http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/PageEditing#HAdvancedMode Thanks, Caty On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:41 PM, robert roberts.vart...@gmail.com wrote: Strange. I still can't find it https://www.dropbox.com/s/62zsjb1wi4lmb7q/doc_edit.png?dl=0 -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Document-autosave-in-xwiki-7-0-1-tp7595321p7595324.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Link
Hey, An similar idea would be to add some rights for that particular page that has View for unregistered users. Thanks, Caty On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Maciej Fokt maciek.f...@taxi123.pl wrote: Hey, I would like to know if there is the possibility of concluding a login and password in the link to the XWiki. I would like to allow other users to login without entering data. Is it possible? Regards, Maciek. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Release Notes of Forum Application
Hi, Not sure what you are talking about. They look fine, see http://imgur.com/Nc6cdwF Thanks, Caty On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Hamster teun...@hotmail.com wrote: Can a dev look at the release notes of the ForumApplication http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ForumApplication It seems like FWK005 oarse may not be called while parsing is messing things up :-) -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Release-Notes-of-Forum-Application-tp7595276.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Old XWiki Downloads
I've moved the 'Older version' link in Other downloads sections. When we had XEM, XEclipse the link was better suited in the past location. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, withwind...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the website you can download all the release versions: http://forge.ow2.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170 -邮件原件- 发件人: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] 代表 RonHancock 发送时间: 2015年6月18日 4:10 收件人: users@xwiki.org 主题: Re: [xwiki-users] Old XWiki Downloads here here! It is almost impossible to find old versions on the website. There should be an older versions button somewhere on the download page to take you to the archives. Ron -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Old-XWiki-Downloads-tp7585869p7595182.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 7.1 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 7.1 This release adds important changes and improvements for Extension Manager, Solr Search, Watchlist, a new experimental Flavors mechanism and a Debug mode for performance analysis. Extension Manager provides a summary for the extension diff view in order to ease the navigation of the local code changes. A new Extension History section has also been added, offering support for selective export, import and replay of extension-related history records. Solr Search UI is improved by making it responsive on small screens. The users can now sort, paginate and filter the search results without a page reload. The Flavors and Watchlist Realtime option are currently still experimental, but you are encouraged to test them and provide feedback. The WatchList performance has been improved, especially for the Realtime notification option. The Realtime Watchlist messages are displayed in a more user-friendly way, sending mails for a variety of events, threaded by your email client by the document they occurred in. The Flavor mechanism is allowing the selection of Flavors in the wiki creation step. In the future, XWiki will offer different Flavors and these are steps towards this direction. Under-the-hood there are various mail and job module improvements. The developers can now trigger old Prototype event listeners from jQuery and a new API is available to escape wiki syntax. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki71 The following people have contributed code to this release: Thomas Mortagne Vincent Massol Guillaume Delhumeau Eduard Moraru Marius Dumitru Florea Denis Gervalle Sergiu Dumitriu Manuel Smeria Gabriela Smeria Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) Anca Luca Jean SIMARD Clemens Robbenhaar Thanks for your support -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Issue with Mocca Calendar finding fullcalendar.js
Hi Jeremie, You should also report the issue on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/MOCCACAL Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.com wrote: Actually the issue you have is because of the change made in http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11094 which removed jquery from /xwiki/resources/js/amd/jquery. This might actually be seen as an important API breackage. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET jeremie.bousq...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-06-04 11:34 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET jeremie.bousq...@gmail.com wrote: Hello dear xwiki-ers, (long time no see ;) ) I installed the Mocca Calendar application [1] in my xwiki 5.4.7 instance, but when browsing to its home page, needed js file can't be loaded and so not much appears ... Error from FF console: GET http://r-wikiggs.gemalto.com/fullcalendar.js [HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found 9ms] Error: Script error for: fullcalendar http://requirejs.org/docs/errors.html#scripterror I understand that it probably comes from MoccaCalendar.Macro js extension: require(['jquery', 'fullcalendar'], function(jQuery, fullCalendar) { ... but my knowledge of requireJS is more than poor so I'm not sure how to fix this ... For sure URL used to reach fullcalendar.js is NOK. I'm not familiar with the Mocca Calendar application, but from the 404 URL you get in the Firefox console it seems you're missing the Require.js configuration that specifies where the 'fullcalendar' module is located. Require.js attempts to load the module from the root of your webapp as a fallback and fails. See http://requirejs.org/docs/api.html#config-paths . Thanks Marius, I checked from page source and there is: require.config({ baseUrl: '/', paths: { 'jquery': /xwiki/resources/js/amd/jquery }, map: { '*': { 'jquery': 'jQueryNoConflict' }, 'jQueryNoConflict': { 'jquery': 'jquery' } } }); I suppose this is a basic configuration of xwiki, I'm not sure where require conf can be altered ... (from velocity templates ?) Anyway, as I did not find fullcalendar.js, what I did is: - download fullcalendar-2.3.1.zip and unzip it to $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/xwiki/resources/js/fullcalendar/ - change js extension in MoccaCalendar.Macro with: require(['jquery', '/xwiki/resources/js/fullcalendar/fullcalendar.js'], function(jQuery, fullCalendar) { A calendar is now displayed (sometimes), but seems to be missing stylesheets completely, so it's not really usable ... I feel there must be something easier to do ;) BR, Jeremie Hope this helps, Marius Thanks, BR, Jeremie ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Thomas Mortagne ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Printing pages as displayed
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Mahomed Hussein maho...@custodiandc.com wrote: Hi Can anyone help please with some information on how to modify/control the print layout please? Thanks. Each skin has a print.css Kind regards, Mahomed -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Mahomed Hussein Sent: 05 May 2015 17:59 To: XWiki Users Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Printing pages as displayed Oh! I forgot to mention we are running 7.0.1 and a custom skin/theme based on the flamingo skin. Kind regards, Mahomed -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Mahomed Hussein Sent: 05 May 2015 17:53 To: XWiki Users Subject: [xwiki-users] Printing pages as displayed Hi Is there a way of printing the pages as they are displayed? Ideally printing without the side panel, but with all the different colours/formatting as it appears on the screen would be ideal. At the moment all colours and formatting is stripped if you try to print directly from the page, using the print preview option or by exporting to PDF. I have tried an export to HTML and then using the local html file to see if that works but it seems that whatever script/css is forcing the print formatting still takes effect on the exported html. I have tried saving the page only directly but it still does the same thing. I have tried Chrome. Firefox and IE. I have also tried a google search and I have searched for print and printing on the FAQ but there are so many results it may take a few hours to go through them all. I suspect there’s a CSS file I need to modify somewhere (possibly print.css?) that will format the export with the header colours etc. If so, please could someone kindly point me at the correct documentation or provide any tips/hints? Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Mahomed ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Printing pages as displayed
Except print.css another way of 'printing' XWiki pages would be to customize the PDF export, but this step is more complicated (you need to do modifications to pdf templates, XHTML2FO XSL and FOP XSL transformations, etc.), see http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Configuration#HCustomizingthePDFexportLook26Feel Depends on what you need to do. Have fun, Caty On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Mahomed Hussein maho...@custodiandc.com wrote: Great! Thanks. Good to know I was on the right path :) Kind regards, Mahomed -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) Sent: 07 May 2015 12:25 To: XWiki Users Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Printing pages as displayed On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Mahomed Hussein maho...@custodiandc.com wrote: Hi Can anyone help please with some information on how to modify/control the print layout please? Thanks. Each skin has a print.css Kind regards, Mahomed -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Mahomed Hussein Sent: 05 May 2015 17:59 To: XWiki Users Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Printing pages as displayed Oh! I forgot to mention we are running 7.0.1 and a custom skin/theme based on the flamingo skin. Kind regards, Mahomed -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Mahomed Hussein Sent: 05 May 2015 17:53 To: XWiki Users Subject: [xwiki-users] Printing pages as displayed Hi Is there a way of printing the pages as they are displayed? Ideally printing without the side panel, but with all the different colours/formatting as it appears on the screen would be ideal. At the moment all colours and formatting is stripped if you try to print directly from the page, using the print preview option or by exporting to PDF. I have tried an export to HTML and then using the local html file to see if that works but it seems that whatever script/css is forcing the print formatting still takes effect on the exported html. I have tried saving the page only directly but it still does the same thing. I have tried Chrome. Firefox and IE. I have also tried a google search and I have searched for print and printing on the FAQ but there are so many results it may take a few hours to go through them all. I suspect there’s a CSS file I need to modify somewhere (possibly print.css?) that will format the export with the header colours etc. If so, please could someone kindly point me at the correct documentation or provide any tips/hints? Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Mahomed ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p
Hi, First of all I'd like to thank Mahomed for the nice words he said about XWiki. I agree that we must try to make XWiki as simple as it can be for the end-users and, as Pascal said, one solution for this is to improve the documentation. The problem is that I'm not sure I completely understood what problem Maciek has (in order to improve it). Thanks, Caty On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Mahomed Hussein maho...@custodiandc.com wrote: I'm sure we can debate this all day. XWiki is very simple for end users to use. The actual purpose of the wiki (to allow people to create/edit/view articles/pages) is simple and straight-forward. I have everyone in our organisation using it successfully, and trust me, some of the end users should not be allowed near computers. But they managed to use the system for its purpose just fine. That doesn't mean that they can all install, configure, update and customise XWiki. I'll give you another analogy. XWiki is like a fine car. Cars are easy to use and drive by almost anyone. But that doesn't mean everyone can fix a car. Even if you know a little bit about how engines work and how to change the oil etc. Some jobs just have to be left to the professionals. XWiki is the same. Everyone can use it very easily. But when it comes to the advanced stuff, if you can't understand the excellent documentation, and no one can help you on the mailing list then the problem is not with XWiki. I consider myself a very competent engineer and developer, but there are some things that even I find quite advanced in XWiki. That goes to show how powerful it is (and what a great job the developers have done). Anyway I don’t think this is too constructive for the mailing list so I will stop here. You are entitled to your opinion and I am to mine (I think XWiki is great). If you don't like XWiki then I hope you find something that suits you better. That's the beauty of the internet and open source. You can always find something that suits you or make your own :) Kind regards, Mahomed -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Pascal BASTIEN Sent: 22 April 2015 22:23 To: XWiki Users; Maciej Fokt Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p Hello,I'm sorry, I'm not agree with you : a powerfull system must hide the systems complexity... And it is a wiki : it's mean if there aren't enough simple documentation then anybody (high ueser AND normal people with non computer vision) must write a page to contribute and make more available for simple user. :-) IMO we can use a simple xwiki and/or use higher level xwiki and/or a customized one. :-) Pascal B. De : Mahomed Hussein maho...@custodiandc.com À : Maciej Fokt maciek.f...@taxi123.pl; XWiki Users users@xwiki.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 22 avril 2015 18h37 Objet : Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p That's just the way technology is. The more powerful a system is, and the more options it has, then the more technical it is. If you want something that's easy for no computer people then I'm afraid you need to use something which has less features and power. A jumbo jet pilot needs to have more experience and knowledge than a Cessna pilot. The jumbo jet has more buttons and features and probably cannot be easily or ever flown by a Cessna pilot. That's just the way things are. XWiki actually has VERY good documentation (some of the best I've seen, and I've seen a lot of systems). It also has a helpful mailing list. Unfortunately it's not XWiki' s fault if you can't understand the documentation or the help that you have been offered several times here. I genuinely hope you manage to find a system that you like and works for you. Kind regards, Mahomed -Original Message- From: Maciej Fokt [mailto:maciek.f...@taxi123.pl] Sent: 22 April 2015 17:27 To: XWiki Users; Mahomed Hussein Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p No way... I have back to the 1.1 version and now i haven't settings... Why XWiki (good, big and helpful toll) can be so hard for no computer people... Thanks all for help, but XWiki is too hard for me, I think. W dniu .04.2015 o 18:00 Mahomed Hussein maho...@custodiandc.com pisze: He has a problem with his install and I believe he wants to reset the system so it will be the same as when he installed it for the first time. I don't think this is possible without uninstalling, then searching and deleting all files/folders related and then installing from the beginning. Kind regards, -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) Sent: 22 April 2015 16:30 To: XWiki Users Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p I guess you could revert the WebPreferences history to version 1.1. For example, in the Administration you have this URL: - xwiki/bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences You
Re: [xwiki-users] Clear them all! :p
I guess you could revert the WebPreferences history to version 1.1. For example, in the Administration you have this URL: - xwiki/bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences You could do: - xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=history and then on the version 1.1 use Rollback. Not sure if this is what you meant. Thanks, Caty On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Maciej Fokt maciek.f...@taxi123.pl wrote: Hello, Is there option to return to the first contain and settings? I mean, I want to clear everything. I would like to back to the settings after installation. Greetings, Maciek. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Xwiki Flamingo Icons Bug?
Do you have this file /webapp/resources/uicomponents/wiki/wiki.css ? Maybe http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10577 is the issue. We delete the file and moved the selectors to Colibri. Thanks, Caty On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Georg Hirn georg.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! @Eduard: I have commented out the lucene plugin, that works, the exception has gone away, thank you. But my original issue still exists. Sorry I did not know that attachments not work, here are the links to the screenshots: - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_VsU8fJmgGTUDk4OEdtcFpBa3c/view?usp=sharing - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_VsU8fJmgGTN3kxTHRJV2FJckU/view?usp=sharing - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_VsU8fJmgGTY1V4VWh5bTlMUnM/view?usp=sharing @Thomas: I compared these two files and found the following differences: xwiki.cfg: xwiki.cfg.dpkg-dist: xwiki.title.compatibility=1 xwiki.title.compatibility=0 LucenePlugin listed no LucenePlugin listed WatchListPlugin listed no WatchListPlugin listed I changed that to xwiki.title.compatibility=0 and commented LucenePlugin and WatchListPlugin out, restarted tomcat, but the original issue is still there. Thanks, Georg 2015-04-04 13:41 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.com: On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Eduard Moraru enygma2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The relevant exception in that log is java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.xpn.xwiki.plugin.lucene.LucenePlugin. The Lucene Plugin has been retired [1] and replaced by the Solr Search application [2]. You are currently getting that exception because you did not properly upgrade your xwiki.cfg/xwiki.properties configuration files. They need to be upgraded appropriately to the release notes of the versions you are upgrading through. In this particular case, you did not remove from the xwiki.cfg file, inside the xwiki.plugins section, the reference to LucenePlugin. Once you remove it, XWiki should no longer try to load it and you should not get that exception message any more. In this particular case it probably means you kept the current version when apt-get asked you if you wanted to move to the new one. You should compare /etc/xwiki/xwiki.cfg and /etc/xwiki/xwiki.cfg.dpkg-dist (this is the new standard version) files. Regarding your original issue, try sharing a screenshot with us. Note that attachments don`t work on this list, so please use an image upload online service and share us the link. Thanks, Eduard -- [1] http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki70M1#HDeprecatedandRetiredprojects [2] http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Solr+Search+Application On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Georg Hirn georg.h...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I have made a apt-get upgrade for xwiki. It did update some packages with no errors, see apt-get log: Log started: 2015-04-03 13:53:45 (Lese Datenbank ... ^M(Lese Datenbank ... 5%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 10%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 15%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 20%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 25%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 30%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 35%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 40%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 45%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 50%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 55%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 60%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 65%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 70%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 75%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 80%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 85%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 90%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 95%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 100%^M(Lese Datenbank ... 165997 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.) Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../xwiki-enterprise-tomcat7-mysql_7.0+1_all.deb ... Entpacken von xwiki-enterprise-tomcat7-mysql (7.0+1) über (7.0) ... * Stopping Tomcat servlet engine tomcat7 ESC[205G ^MESC[199G[ OK ] * Starting Tomcat servlet engine tomcat7 ESC[205G ^MESC[199G[ OK ] Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../xwiki-enterprise-tomcat-common_7.0+1_all.deb ... Entpacken von xwiki-enterprise-tomcat-common (7.0+1) über (7.0) ... Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../xwiki-enterprise-mysql-common_7.0+1_all.deb ... Entpacken von xwiki-enterprise-mysql-common (7.0+1) über (7.0) ... Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../xwiki-enterprise-common_7.0+1_all.deb ... Entpacken von xwiki-enterprise-common (7.0+1) über (7.0) ... xwiki-enterprise-common (7.0+1) wird eingerichtet ... xwiki-enterprise-tomcat-common (7.0+1) wird eingerichtet ... xwiki-enterprise-mysql-common (7.0+1) wird eingerichtet ... dbconfig-common: writing config to /etc/dbconfig-common/xwiki.conf dbconfig-common: flushing administrative password xwiki-enterprise-tomcat7-mysql (7.0+1) wird eingerichtet ... * Stopping Tomcat servlet engine tomcat7
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 7.0 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 7.0. This is the first release of the 7.x cycle. It features many improvements for extensions, a simplified Wiki Creation Wizard, improved differences view, integration of a new Tree Widget with the WYSIWYG editor and Index Application, etc. Regarding extensions, we now have the ability to organize and filter extensions by category in the Extension Repository, the install date and the user that performed the install are now available in the extension details, the extensions that were installed explicitly are now displayed distinctly, etc. We improved the difference views for document history and extension upgrade process, by showing a difference summary between the two versions, detailed changes to objects definitions, etc. Developers may enjoy a new application to edit wiki Skins, a new Finder Plugin for the Tree Widget and API improvements to the Mail Sender and Extension Manager modules. The Watchlist module has a new component based implementation and also there is an experimental Realtime Watchlist Notification feature. XWiki also moved to Servlet 3.0.1 which means various old application servers versions are not supported anymore and the old Lucene search module was finally retired to Contrib. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki70 Thanks -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Globally changing font, headers and title in XWiki
Hi, http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11679 This issue is fixed in 6.2.5, 7.0-milestone-1, 6.4.1 versions. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:37 PM, MishaK mkurba...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I am using administrator account. It looks like ONLY @headings-color is missing. Any suggestion on how to fix this problem? -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Globally-changing-font-headers-and-title-in-XWiki-tp7594311p7594338.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Globally changing font, headers and title in XWiki
Hi, - Go to your FlamingoTheme editor, like 'edit/FlamingoThemes/Charcoal' - Go to section 'Advanced', in the textarea write: @headings-color: blue; Thanks, Caty On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:23 PM, MishaK mkurba...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your answer! Is there a way to upgrade the xwiki through web without accessing the local files? Also, can I fix the issue with the advanced option in the Color Theme using @lessCode or something? If so, how? Regards, Michael -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Globally-changing-font-headers-and-title-in-XWiki-tp7594311p7594343.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Globally changing font, headers and title in XWiki
Not sure what you mean by 'Topic title color'? Are you refering to the Forum App? Anyway, you should inspect with Firebug or with your browser's Inspector, see what class has the header you need and write the appropiate CSS selector for it. For example, the @headings-color is set for h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6. For example, you could write something like this: @headings-color: blue; #document-title h1 { color: green; } in order to have a different color for the main page header (that has the id='document-title'), but again ... depends what you are talking about. Thanks, Caty On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:41 PM, MishaK mkurba...@gmail.com wrote: That worked, thanks again! Is there a separate class for the topic title colour? I want it to have separate colours from the rest of the headers. Regards, Michael -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Globally-changing-font-headers-and-title-in-XWiki-tp7594311p7594346.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Globally changing font, headers and title in XWiki
I'm glad that you solved your problem. Have fun, Caty On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:42 PM, MishaK mkurba...@gmail.com wrote: I meant the topic title of the page at the top. In this case it was heading 1 so I followed your example and everything worked. Thank you very much, I appreciate it! Been trying to solve this problem for a week. I couldn't exactly find what i was looking for in documentation and guides for xwiki. It's great that you guys follow and support this forum! -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/Globally-changing-font-headers-and-title-in-XWiki-tp7594311p7594348.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [xwiki-devs] Suggestions for new Photo Albulm Xwiki
Hi, It's great that you are thinking about writing a Photo application since we are missing a photo gallery and I'm sure lots of people in the community would like one. There is this page on design.xwiki.org http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/PhotoApplication that list related extensions for photo album and also list some possible requirements, not sure if it's what you are needing. Good luck, Caty On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Cray xWiki crayxw...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we are a groupe of four students and we are actually working on a XWiki extension. This extension will be a modern photo gallery which allows users to organise and publish photos. For now, our planned features are the followings: -Thumbnails display -Responsive display -Autoplay (diaporama) -Nice transitions -Intuitive configuration page included drag and drop function to upload images Do you have another ideas or suggestions to improve our extension ? Thank you in advance. Best regards, CRAY team ___ devs mailing list d...@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] cell borders in tables
Hi, Since this seems to be a recurring issue, I've created http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11908 Thanks, Caty 2015-03-03 21:52 GMT+02:00 Jamal ram...@gmail.com: Stylesheet extensions are documented here: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/SkinExtensionsTutorial#HMinimalStyleSheeteXtension J -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/cell-borders-in-tables-tp7594148p7594193.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 6.4.1 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki Enterprise 6.4.1. This is a stabilization release that fixes important bugs discovered in the previous 6.4 version, while also providing an integration of the new Tree Widget with the Index Application and the WYSIWYG Editor. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki641 Thanks -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] List all registered macros
Hi, XWiki/WikiMacros will list all the existing wiki macro on a wiki, but not sure it this covers all your need. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:10 PM, ICLED c.lederm...@interact-consulting.com wrote: How can I get a list of all *registered* macros?I know how to get a list of the XWiki.WikiMacroClass with the * Query Generator http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Query+Generator * extension, but it will not show if the macro is properly registered or not.I also want to get the attributes of a registered macros such as source document or built in, language... -- View this message in context: http://xwiki.475771.n2.nabble.com/List-all-registered-macros-tp7593652.html Sent from the XWiki- Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 6.4 Milestone 3 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 6.4 Milestone 3. This milestone integrates the Ratings module inside platform, providing the ability to rate extensions inside the Extension Repository and visualise them inside Extension Manager. We have also added improvements for Flamingo Skin on the responsiveness aspect, reintroduced the Wiki configuration section in Administration and done massive work in augmenting the Mail Sender API to be able to send large number of emails. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki64M3 Thanks -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Problem showing Menu Application on XE6.3
Hi Ramon, I've just installed the Menu Application 6.3 on a XWiki Enterprise 6.3 and it worked without a problem. On Menu space, I've created a new menu entry, kept the default structure and it worked. Just make sure that for the 'Menu Display Location' property you set 'After the Page Header' for example. So maybe there is something in your particular setup that causes problems. Thanks, Caty On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Ramon Gomes Brandão ramon.bran...@planejamento.gov.br wrote: Hi Xwiki Members, We're working on a brand new instance of our intranet using XE6.3. Despite the very nice new features, one of them - maybe the most important for our use case - is not working: the Menu Application. It was the first and only extension I've installed since now on a fresh new standard 6.3 using flamingo skin, following the instructions on the menu application page - http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Menu+Application http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Menu+Application. I have only the Admin user so far. I've created the same sample menu using the app documentation, set to display after the page header, selected current wiki (tested all the options by the way) and nothing happened. The XWikiAdminGroup has programming rights selected. I've simply changed to colibri skin in WebPrefs look and feel section and also not worked. Am I losing any config/setup step? How can I check what's happening? I've not tested 6.4M2 yet, once it brings improvements on look and feel to Menu Application. I would like to learn and get the Menu working on 6.3 first. Could you help me? Best Regards, -- Ramon Gomes Brandão ** ** *RAMON BRANDÃO* ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [VOTE] Enable default actions for the Flamingo top menu entries
I like it too. What I would 'improve' is: when the dropdown is .open, have the background-color also on entity name, not just the arrow. This would mean removing 'background-color: transparent' from '.navbar-nav.dropdown-split.open.dropdown-split-left'. This way, you can clearly see the separation of link/action in normal mode, but see the affiliation of the menu when open (also this is visible since the menu starts under the entity name, not the arrow). This is just a remark I have, but I'm waiting for more feedback from others. Thanks, Caty On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: I committed my changes so that those that haven't voted yet can see it in action. Will revert if someone is against it. Thanks, Marius On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Guillaume Lerouge guilla...@xwiki.com wrote: +1 Thanks a lot for all your effort on this Marius! Guillaume On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau gdelhum...@xwiki.com wrote: +1, looks good. 2014-12-08 12:59 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: +1, ideally with a hover feedback very similar to the one of a dropdown button. The color theme is responsible for the hover effect. A flat color theme will probably use a single color highlight, controlled by the @navbar-default-link-hover-bg LESS variable. A 3D color theme may use some gradients to achieve the 3D effect on hover. A minimalistic color theme (like Simplex) will just change the text color on hover, leaving the background transparent. This proposal/vote is about agreeing on: * displaying a small vertical bar between the menu label and toggle (using a color derived from the menu background) to indicate the separation between the two (especially for tablet devices where there's no hover) * hovering/activating the menu label and the toggle separately, as it happens with a drop down button (e.g. the Add button). Thanks, Marius On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Pascal BASTIEN pbasnews-xw...@yahoo.fr wrote: May I? (you send mail at user list)... then +1 On 6.3 I still use 6.2 menu (I modified the template on my xwiki) I'm agree with you the 2 side of button must be better separate (with color on hoover or a black vertical bar?). IMO we must respect the same logic of actions button (an one-click default action and drop down sub menu level at the right-side-click ) With CSS it should be possible to:- use 2 side button on big screen- use GoTo menu on small screen (with @media min-width) Thxs Pascal BASTIEN De : Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com À : XWiki Developers d...@xwiki.org; XWiki Users users@xwiki.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 5 décembre 2014 17h20 Objet : [xwiki-users] [VOTE] Enable default actions for the Flamingo top menu entries Hi everyone, = Short Story = I propose to change the behaviour of the top level menu from Flamingo for tablet and desktop screens (so NOT for phones) to match the behaviour we had in 6.2 BUT improving the separation between the navigation links and the drop down toggle. The idea is that the top level menu entries should behave like a drop down button (e.g. the Add button) but without looking like one. You can see some screen shots at http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11517. = Long Story = I've heard complains that the current behaviour of the top level menu from Flamingo skin is not perfect. The issue is that you need to click twice to navigate. Ok, with a mouse you can use the middle click (wheel) to open the link in a new tab but still it's annoying for simple uses and for those that use the touch pad or a tablet. An alternative I have investigated in http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11479 is to open the menu on hover (on devices that support this of course). The result is quite nice and effective but there is a problem: if you have a second horizontal menu displayed under the top level menu then you'll have a hard time hovering the second menu. So I decided to close XWIKI-11479 as Won't Fix. For those that like the open-on-hover behaviour and which don't plan to use a second menu I've published this extension http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Hover+and+Default+Action+for+Flamingo+Menu . The other alternative to fix the problem is to go back to the behaviour from 6.2. Precisely, each menu has two sides: * on the left is the label which is a link used for navigation * on the right there is a toggle (arrow) used to open the menu. The problem with this, and the reason we change it
Re: [xwiki-users] [VOTE] Enable default actions for the Flamingo top menu entries
+1 Thanks, Caty On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Denis Gervalle d...@softec.lu wrote: +1, ideally with a hover feedback very similar to the one of a dropdown button. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Pascal BASTIEN pbasnews-xw...@yahoo.fr wrote: May I? (you send mail at user list)... then +1 On 6.3 I still use 6.2 menu (I modified the template on my xwiki) I'm agree with you the 2 side of button must be better separate (with color on hoover or a black vertical bar?). IMO we must respect the same logic of actions button (an one-click default action and drop down sub menu level at the right-side-click ) With CSS it should be possible to:- use 2 side button on big screen- use GoTo menu on small screen (with @media min-width) Thxs Pascal BASTIEN De : Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com À : XWiki Developers d...@xwiki.org; XWiki Users users@xwiki.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 5 décembre 2014 17h20 Objet : [xwiki-users] [VOTE] Enable default actions for the Flamingo top menu entries Hi everyone, = Short Story = I propose to change the behaviour of the top level menu from Flamingo for tablet and desktop screens (so NOT for phones) to match the behaviour we had in 6.2 BUT improving the separation between the navigation links and the drop down toggle. The idea is that the top level menu entries should behave like a drop down button (e.g. the Add button) but without looking like one. You can see some screen shots at http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11517. = Long Story = I've heard complains that the current behaviour of the top level menu from Flamingo skin is not perfect. The issue is that you need to click twice to navigate. Ok, with a mouse you can use the middle click (wheel) to open the link in a new tab but still it's annoying for simple uses and for those that use the touch pad or a tablet. An alternative I have investigated in http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11479 is to open the menu on hover (on devices that support this of course). The result is quite nice and effective but there is a problem: if you have a second horizontal menu displayed under the top level menu then you'll have a hard time hovering the second menu. So I decided to close XWIKI-11479 as Won't Fix. For those that like the open-on-hover behaviour and which don't plan to use a second menu I've published this extension http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Hover+and+Default+Action+for+Flamingo+Menu . The other alternative to fix the problem is to go back to the behaviour from 6.2. Precisely, each menu has two sides: * on the left is the label which is a link used for navigation * on the right there is a toggle (arrow) used to open the menu. The problem with this, and the reason we change it in 6.3, was that the label and the toggle were not separated very well so the user could easily think they were doing the same action (opening the menu). At the same time this separation felt unnatural on extra small screens (phones) because you couldn't tap easily on the toggle (arrow). The solution I propose is to: * Keep the current behaviour for extra small screens (phones). That means the use has to tap twice to navigate: one tap to open the menu and another one on the Go to this XYZ. * On desktop and tablet enable the default action (navigation link) as in 6.2 but improve the separation so that the menu behaves as much as possible as a drop down button (e.g. the Add button) without looking like one. This means: ** You should understand there are two sides without hovering ** Separate hover and active state (e.g. the link is not hovered when the toggle is hovered) I've investigated *many* ways to achieve this and the result can be seen on http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-11517. This is close to http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Enable+Default+Action+for+Flamingo+Menu but not the same. NOTE: The way the menu behaves and looks on hover and click (text and background color) is strictly determined by the color theme. Some themes highlight the hovered menu items by changing their background color, others the text color and some do both. My changes are independent on this. We can of course improve the default color theme to better highlight the menu items. This is a different topic though. I'd like to commit this changes in 6.4. Here's my +1. Thanks, Marius ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Denis Gervalle SOFTEC sa - CEO ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] I can not use less variable in a SSX
Hi, http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10708 Thanks, Caty On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Pascal BASTIEN pbasnews-xw...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hello, In ./skins/flamingo/less/bootstrap/variables.less we found: //== Media queries breakpoints // //## Define the breakpoints at which your layout will change, adapting to different screen sizes. ... // Small screen / tablet //** Deprecated `@screen-sm` as of v3.0.1 @screen-sm: 768px; @screen-sm-min: @screen-sm; Then I want use screen-sm-min in a new SSX object but this doesn't work:@media (min-width: @screen-sm-min) { h1 { color: fuchsia; }}(If I replace screen-sm-min with his value 768px, my SSX work well.) Is it normal than @screen-sm-min doesn't work in a SSX?Thxs Pascal B ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] [ANN] XWiki 6.2.3 released
The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki 6.2.3. This is a bug fix release with lots of issues fixed to stabilize the Flamingo skin. You can download it here: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download Make sure to review the release notes: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki623 Thanks -The XWiki dev team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Admin rights after migration
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Moens Patrick patrick.mo...@curia.europa.eu wrote: Hi Vincent, I found the bug, or don't understand rights in new version of xwiki:) If I give the programing rights to XWikiAllGroup even if I block Adminstration rights to the group, all users have admin rights. I've uncheck programming rights and everything is ok, exept that users don't have results of scripts on pages. Give one administrator you trust the programming right. Go over the pages with scripts and re-save them with that Admin 's account. The scripts should be fine. Thanks, Caty Patrick -Original Message- From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of vinc...@massol.net Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:15 PM To: XWiki Users Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Admin rights after migration Hi Patrick, I don’t know about your problem (no bug has been reported on this so it’s probably some rights configuration issue) but I would really advise to install XWiki 6.2 (or wait for 6.2.1 which should be out this week, possibly tomorrow). Thanks -Vincent On 29 Sep 2014 at 15:52:38, Moens Patrick (patrick.mo...@curia.europa.eu (mailto:patrick.mo...@curia.europa.eu)) wrote: Hello , I've a strange bug since Friday. I've installed a fresh xwiki 6.1 on tomcat/oracle 2 weeks ago and imported exported data from a old xwiki 2.3 (but data have been migrated to xwiki 6.1 before export). Everything was ok until Friday. Now every users have admin rights but they are not in the admin group. They have access to all spaces,/docs. If anyone have an idea. I've check rights, and nothing change between pre production server and problematic prod :/ PAtrick ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Discussion] What trees would you like to see in the XWiki garden?
Hi Marius, We need trees: * for global vision/management: (AllDocs) doing crud operations on pages in particular (but would be nice also to rename/move/delete spaces/wikis? ) * for navigation: in a panel that should list parent/child relation or space/page relation for the current page/space. * for selection: especially when doing import or multi-page exports * for development: as you said a full XWiki Entity Tree would be nice for applications like AWM, but we would need also partial Entity Trees for Class or Objects Editor (displaying objects and properties) * for classification: any category/sub-category or folder/page type of classification would need a tree (Blog Categories, File Manager, etc. ... tags, photo albums, etc.) when the structure is user/defined based on a parent/child relation Things to consider: * multiple views: wiki/space/page vs. parent/child * multiple parent: simple parent vs. multiple parent classification (maybe in case of tags, photo albums) Wishes: * Normal: ** I would like that we could use a consistent tree across XWiki functionality. ** I wish we could have operations on tree entries (by dragdrop or just from actions). * Ideas: ** I wish users could define their own tree structures (not necessarily having XWiki's two dimensions [parent/child and location] but maybe defining a custom structure: example, I'm writing a book and I want to organize the pages in chapters. Maybe I have some pages that I don't know exactly in what chapter to put [orphan/hanging] or that could go in multiple chapters ) ** Change the display of a tree from vertical to horizontal (like a graph) (could work for the book example) Lacking: * Normal: ** Navigation panel (when visualizing a space or even a wiki we could display a contextual {{spaces/}} gadget in a panel that could be expanded) ** Documentation panel (of related pages displaying the parent/child relationship) ** Multi-page export with entity selection ** Groups/Users * Ideas: ** Dependencies Tree for applications installed with EM ** Roles/Rights vs. Inherited/Global/Locally set Rights Tree (kind of crazy I know :) ) ** Major / Minor versions history Not sure exactly what you expected people to answer :) I tried to think of all kinds of usages (not all are needed or realistic). Hope it helps. Thanks, Caty On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Dmitry Bakbardin haru_mamb...@mail.ru wrote: Hi, Marius! I would add also wiki space page [anchor in a page] in the WYSIWYG editor. + one more vote for: 1. wiki space page [translations | attachments | objects | classProperties] object objectProperties 2. parent page child page I'm almost happy with this macro: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/HierarchyMacro It has very important feature: EDITABLE tree - one can change order of pages in the tree and page's parent by moving it up or down. I'm using it now as a TOC of space. This macro has few critical bugs, e.g. http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/HIERARCHYM-5 Also I'd be completely happy to have an option Blacklisted pages list in each and every tree/macro. Kind regards, Dmitry Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:04:57 +0300 от Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com: Hi guys, There are a couple of places in XWiki where we use trees to display structured / hierarchical data. Are trees a good solution for data visualization in those cases? Can those trees be improved? Are there other places in XWiki where you would like to see a tree? Let me review some of the trees we currently have: 1. Document Index Tree wiki space page [attachments | page] This tree is also used in the WYSIWYG editor when you create a link to a wiki page or to an attachment. It shows the spaces on the first level and then under each space the parent-child hierarchy of documents from that space. If a document has attachments then a special child node is added. The tree can also display wikis on the first level and then spaces on the second. So it mixes two hierarchies: wiki space page attachment and parent child. This can be confusing. For instance Blog.WebHome has Main.WebHome as parent, but you don't see Blog.WebHome under the Main.WebHome node in the tree because it is in a different space. 2. XAR Import space page This is a very simple tree with only two levels. I don't have any problem with it. Would be cool if it would show more information, like attachments or objects, but it's a bit more complex to get this kind of data from the XAR without reading the documents first. 3. Dynamic Hierarchy Macro ( http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Dynamic+Hierarchy+Macro ) parent page child page Unlike the Document Index Tree, this tree uses only the parent-child hierarchy. You don't see the spaces but at least you get the full parent-child hierarchy. This time Blog.WebHome is a child of the Main.WebHome node. I'm not sure it's better than the Document