Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
Also for anyone else running qmail/vpopmail on a Gentoo system and using the SMTP-AUTH patch, a change from r13 to r15 will break your setup unless you update your USE flags. It is related to notlsbeforeauth feature. See the following posting for more details: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-339867-highlight-smtpauth.html Be warned anyone running qmail/vpopmail on Gentoo r15 is a bit of a headache when upgrading. -Dougal This is pretty much in responce to Jeffrey A Schmidt's mail called can't relay any more posted on Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:28:34 -0700 Jeffrey, Gentoo has once again made HUGE changes to a package without informing it's users thereof before allowing the package to install. this is from the ebuild : einfo Use of vpopmail's tcp.smtp[.cdb] is also deprecated now, consider einfo using net-mail/relay-ctrl instead. incase you're wondering what this means ... from the install section: econf \ ##SNIP## --disable-tcp-rules-prog --disable-tcpserver-file --disable-roaming-users \ || die # TCPRULES for relaying is now considered obsolete, use relay-ctrl instead #--enable-tcprules-prog=/usr/bin/tcprules --enable-tcpserver-file=/etc/tcp.smtp \ #--enable-roaming-users=y --enable-relay-clear-minutes=60 \ #--disable-rebuild-tcpserver-file \ They have disabled roaming users aka relaying in vpopmail. You need to emerge relay-ctrl instead. Or work around this .. for a howto : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_QMAIL_RELAY-CTRL_VPOPMAIL -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
gentoo is great, but the developers handleing the ebuilds for vpopmail and qmail need to freakin chill on the custom crap... I see it as forcing me to go from source on everything. - Original Message - From: Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ... This is pretty much in responce to Jeffrey A Schmidt's mail called can't relay any more posted on Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:28:34 -0700 Jeffrey, Gentoo has once again made HUGE changes to a package without informing it's users thereof before allowing the package to install. this is from the ebuild : einfo Use of vpopmail's tcp.smtp[.cdb] is also deprecated now, consider einfo using net-mail/relay-ctrl instead. incase you're wondering what this means ... from the install section: econf \ ##SNIP## --disable-tcp-rules-prog --disable-tcpserver-file --disable-roamin g-users \ || die # TCPRULES for relaying is now considered obsolete, use relay-ctrl instead #--enable-tcprules-prog=/usr/bin/tcprules --enable-tcpserver-file=/etc/tcp.s mtp \ #--enable-roaming-users=y --enable-relay-clear-minutes=60 \ #--disable-rebuild-tcpserver-file \ They have disabled roaming users aka relaying in vpopmail. You need to emerge relay-ctrl instead. Or work around this .. for a howto : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_QMAIL_RELAY-CTRL_VPOPMAIL -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:33:05 -0500 Chris Godwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gentoo is great, but the developers handleing the ebuilds for vpopmail and qmail need to freakin chill on the custom crap... I see it as forcing me to go from source on everything. no kidding .. my primary vhost server is now completely borked ... I can't get this working again ... and I don't knwo what I'm doing wrong .. shows you how long ago I did a manual vpop install. I basically did this .. : removed this from ebuild --disable-tcp-rules-prog --disable-tcpserver-file --disable-roaming-users \ || die added --enable-tcprules-prog=/usr/bin/tcprules --enable-tcpserver-file=/etc/tcp.smtp \ --enable-roaming-users=y --enable-relay-clear-minutes=60 \ --disable-rebuild-tcpserver-file \ but still can't get the relay cdb to get rebuilt after pop any suggestions ... ? H -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:19:18 -0500 Jeremy Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: solution: don't use gentoo's qmail ebuilds. where is a decent howto these days ... since I HAVE to get my vpopmail working with relay on pop as it was before .. right now it's broken. I've been saying this all over the place for well over a year now. yeah ... things are getting a little out of hand .. -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
On Thursday 30 June 2005 02:30 pm, Henti Smith wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:19:18 -0500 Jeremy Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: solution: don't use gentoo's qmail ebuilds. where is a decent howto these days ... since I HAVE to get my vpopmail working with relay on pop as it was before .. right now it's broken. www.lifewithqmail.org then if you want to install vpopmail, just read vpopmail's INSTALL file, it's fairly straightforward. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ qmail wiki @ qmailwiki.org !! pgpVo2b5bUquk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
The BEST howto: Was using this for ages before I made the crazy leap to gentoo ebuild. May have to move back soon!! http://qmailrocks.org/ On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:19:18 -0500 Jeremy Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: solution: don't use gentoo's qmail ebuilds. where is a decent howto these days ... since I HAVE to get my vpopmail working with relay on pop as it was before .. right now it's broken. I've been saying this all over the place for well over a year now. yeah ... things are getting a little out of hand .. -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:42:28 - (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BEST howto: Was using this for ages before I made the crazy leap to gentoo ebuild. May have to move back soon!! sadly .. after all this .. and the missions I have been through to get any kind of decent spam/virus protection going the problem with bouncing to spoofed spam accounts causing double bounces, I'm looking at switching to postfix. I love qmail/vpopmail I just wish they could make adding some features easer then right now .. it's just tomuch of a hastle to keep up. -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
problems with qmailrocks-- vpopmail mail quota system is broken because of no maildir++ patch and few patches that enable chkuser and others, qmailscannerqueue is a freakin mem hog. Uses qscanqueue or simscan. If you use simscan, clamav's out of date warning will cause a hard smtp error on the client end, you must not enable custom smtp rejection messages. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ... The BEST howto: Was using this for ages before I made the crazy leap to gentoo ebuild. May have to move back soon!! http://qmailrocks.org/ On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:19:18 -0500 Jeremy Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: solution: don't use gentoo's qmail ebuilds. where is a decent howto these days ... since I HAVE to get my vpopmail working with relay on pop as it was before .. right now it's broken. I've been saying this all over the place for well over a year now. yeah ... things are getting a little out of hand .. -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
the only way to avoid double bounces is chkuser patch. Postfix is find for a few domains, less control imho. simscan has a spamassasin.pl patch that enables peruser sa checking with vpopmail. - Original Message - From: Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ... On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:42:28 - (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BEST howto: Was using this for ages before I made the crazy leap to gentoo ebuild. May have to move back soon!! sadly .. after all this .. and the missions I have been through to get any kind of decent spam/virus protection going the problem with bouncing to spoofed spam accounts causing double bounces, I'm looking at switching to postfix. I love qmail/vpopmail I just wish they could make adding some features easer then right now .. it's just tomuch of a hastle to keep up. -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
On Thursday 30 June 2005 02:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BEST howto: Was using this for ages before I made the crazy leap to gentoo ebuild. May have to move back soon!! http://qmailrocks.org/ i disagree. It throws WAY too much stuff at the novice user. I can't tell you how many people come into #qmail asking for help with some obscure problem because of qmailrocks.org and they have absolutely 0 clue what they have on their system. We also get plenty of calls about it here. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ qmail wiki @ qmailwiki.org !! pgpvY0VR1pfBO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
Chris Godwin wrote: problems with qmailrocks-- vpopmail mail quota system is broken because of no maildir++ patch and few patches that enable chkuser and others, qmailscannerqueue is a freakin mem hog. Uses qscanqueue or simscan. If you use simscan, clamav's out of date warning will cause a hard smtp error on the client end, you must not enable custom smtp rejection messages. Uhhh, why would the out of date warning (that comes from freshclam) cause a hard smtp error on the client end ? I use it on a lot of machines and I've never had that problem. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
I don't consider myself much of a code man or guru on mail servers but when I choose qmail, I know I have to get my sleeves rolled up and get stuck in.. Also when making your own mail server, shouldn't you have a little idea of what you are getting into... Just my ten cents.. On Thursday 30 June 2005 02:42 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BEST howto: Was using this for ages before I made the crazy leap to gentoo ebuild. May have to move back soon!! http://qmailrocks.org/ i disagree. It throws WAY too much stuff at the novice user. I can't tell you how many people come into #qmail asking for help with some obscure problem because of qmailrocks.org and they have absolutely 0 clue what they have on their system. We also get plenty of calls about it here. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ qmail wiki @ qmailwiki.org !!
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:49:26 -0500 Chris Godwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only way to avoid double bounces is chkuser patch. Postfix is find for a few domains, less control imho. simscan has a spamassasin.pl patch that enables peruser sa checking with vpopmail. I'll try chkuser and simscan ... I was using qmailscanner before .. which was a nightmare ..memoery hog and death ritual ;P H -- Henti Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] +27 82 958 2525 http://www.geekware.co.za DISCLAIMER : Unauthorised use of characters, images, sounds, odors, severed limbs, noodles, wierd dreams, strange looking fruit, oxygen, and certain parts of Jupiter are strictly forbidden. If I find you violating, or molesting my property in any way, I will employ a pair of burly convicts to find you, kidnap you, and perform god-awful sexual experiments on you until you lose the ability to sound out vowels. I don't know why you are still reading this, but by doing so you have proven that you have far too much time on your hands, and you should go plant a tree, or read a book or something. - http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
All I know is that I installed simscan and chose clamav as the viral scanner. The error message that shows as follows: odin clamav # clamscan LibClamAV Warning: LibClamAV Warning: *** This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated. *** LibClamAV Warning: *** DON'T PANIC! Read http://www.clamav.net/faq.html *** LibClamAV Warning: LibClamAV Warning: LibClamAV Warning: *** This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated. *** LibClamAV Warning: *** DON'T PANIC! Read http://www.clamav.net/faq.html *** LibClamAV Warning: /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log: OK /var/log/clamav/clam-update.log: OK which is from clamscan NOT freshclam is read by simscan as an error when using custom smtp rejection compiled in. Not answering your question as why these things happen. Just stating that they just happen. - Original Message - From: Rick Macdougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ... Chris Godwin wrote: problems with qmailrocks-- vpopmail mail quota system is broken because of no maildir++ patch and few patches that enable chkuser and others, qmailscannerqueue is a freakin mem hog. Uses qscanqueue or simscan. If you use simscan, clamav's out of date warning will cause a hard smtp error on the client end, you must not enable custom smtp rejection messages. Uhhh, why would the out of date warning (that comes from freshclam) cause a hard smtp error on the client end ? I use it on a lot of machines and I've never had that problem. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
Chris Godwin wrote: All I know is that I installed simscan and chose clamav as the viral scanner. The error message that shows as follows: odin clamav # clamscan LibClamAV Warning: LibClamAV Warning: *** This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated. *** LibClamAV Warning: *** DON'T PANIC! Read http://www.clamav.net/faq.html *** LibClamAV Warning: LibClamAV Warning: LibClamAV Warning: *** This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated. *** LibClamAV Warning: *** DON'T PANIC! Read http://www.clamav.net/faq.html *** LibClamAV Warning: /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log: OK /var/log/clamav/clam-update.log: OK which is from clamscan NOT freshclam is read by simscan as an error when using custom smtp rejection compiled in. Not answering your question as why these things happen. Just stating that they just happen. Strange, inexia1:/var/src# clamscan /var/src/linux-2.4.27.tar.bz2: OK --- SCAN SUMMARY --- Known viruses: 36123 Engine version: 0.85.1 Scanned directories: 1 Scanned files: 1 Infected files: 0 Data scanned: 48.07 MB Time: 21.658 sec (0 m 21 s) no warnings for me. (0.85.1 and freshclam does warn me), besides simscan uses clamdscan. Very strange, did you use any special compile options with clamav ? I'd like to see where this might happen so we can apply a patch to simscan if needed. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
clamav isn't the problem. Wait a month and your output will look like this. This happens when clamav wants you to update clamd and whatever. That's fine but the admin might not get to it as soon as it becomes outdated, but with this issue mail smtp breaks immediatly so the admin is forced to update clamav the very second the scanning engine becomes outdated. I first discovered this when I got a custom smtp rejection full of astisks **, it was the first line of clamscans output. as soon as I update clamscan simscan's smtp sessions work. - Original Message - From: Rick Macdougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vchkpw@inter7.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ... Chris Godwin wrote: All I know is that I installed simscan and chose clamav as the viral scanner. The error message that shows as follows: odin clamav # clamscan LibClamAV Warning: LibClamAV Warning: *** This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated. *** LibClamAV Warning: *** DON'T PANIC! Read http://www.clamav.net/faq.html *** LibClamAV Warning: LibClamAV Warning: LibClamAV Warning: *** This version of the ClamAV engine is outdated. *** LibClamAV Warning: *** DON'T PANIC! Read http://www.clamav.net/faq.html *** LibClamAV Warning: /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log: OK /var/log/clamav/clam-update.log: OK which is from clamscan NOT freshclam is read by simscan as an error when using custom smtp rejection compiled in. Not answering your question as why these things happen. Just stating that they just happen. Strange, inexia1:/var/src# clamscan /var/src/linux-2.4.27.tar.bz2: OK --- SCAN SUMMARY --- Known viruses: 36123 Engine version: 0.85.1 Scanned directories: 1 Scanned files: 1 Infected files: 0 Data scanned: 48.07 MB Time: 21.658 sec (0 m 21 s) no warnings for me. (0.85.1 and freshclam does warn me), besides simscan uses clamdscan. Very strange, did you use any special compile options with clamav ? I'd like to see where this might happen so we can apply a patch to simscan if needed. Regards, Rick
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
On Thursday 30 June 2005 03:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't consider myself much of a code man or guru on mail servers but when I choose qmail, I know I have to get my sleeves rolled up and get stuck in.. Also when making your own mail server, shouldn't you have a little idea of what you are getting into... Just my ten cents.. yes, and LWQ explains how the system works, and doesn't throw 5 million things at you, that you probably have never used, don't know how to use, or how to fix if they break or don't work on the first try. -Jeremy -- Jeremy Kitchen ++ Systems Administrator ++ Inter7 Internet Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ inter7.com ++ 866.528.3530 ++ 815.776.9465 int'l kitchen @ #qmail #gentoo on EFnet IRC ++ scriptkitchen.com/qmail GnuPG Key ID: 481BF7E2 ++ qmail wiki @ qmailwiki.org !! pgp1Yi41onuKm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vchkpw] mail relay problems ...
On Jun 30, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Henti Smith wrote: where is a decent howto these days http://shupp.org/toaster/ I use it every time I build a new hosting server (every 3 years or so). -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] QmailAdmin: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/ Vpopmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ You don't need a laptop to troubleshoot high-speed Internet: sniffter.com
