Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
Le vendredi 28 octobre 2011 à 11:24 +0100, Laz a écrit : > I also suspect that I can run "full" vdr on the client to allow me to use > some plugins on there?! Not looked into that yet. I suspect I can probably > just use vdr-sxfe as a basic frontend, with lirc forwarding so I can > "hide" the server somewhere else... That's kind of funny: my previous move was to put back the server near the TV for practical reasons, rendering the client redundant. I thus replaced the old server + client with a single box (inside a Silverstone GD06 case, which fits quite neatly there). vdr-sxfe still acts as a client lying on the same box, in order to separate processing and presentation (there are still a few vdr-sxfe crashes from time to time, and it's always good not to crash the server while it's recording). -- NH ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On Saturday 22 Oct 2011, M. Fiegert wrote: > >> Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? > >> So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using > >> xineliboutput with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or > >> HDMI connection optical audio. > > > > I bought 2 years ago Zotac IONITX-A-E motherboard which came with > > atom CPU and nvidia gpu, at that time it cost about 200 euro. > > ... > > I made the small case myself and have I have 12" fan running in it in > > the slowest speed and the case/cpu/gpu temperatures remains under 50 > > c. > > I also have such a zotac board. Its running like a charm as a vdr > client since almost two years COMPLETELEY NOISELESS (no fan, SSD)! > You have Full HD over HDMI (and there is optical output, but I never > tried to use). > Definatly my recommendation if noise is a concern. > > see http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2010-January/021920.html Did you ever upload some photos of how you fitted your Accelero S1? To follow up on this thread... (Most of this is found easily in README files, etc., but I find it useful to see the experience of others!) Following some of the comments on here, I have just obtained a Zotac IONITX-T along with a 32 GB SSD to build an HD capable vdr client. This board has an Intel Atom D525 CPU which is dual core but appears as 4 cores and Nvidia Ion graphics. It is also a fanless board but (for paranoia's sake while I'm testing things!) I've also fitted a 40-mm case fan. The case I've bought is an M350 from mini-itx.com (http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=54). This has a nicer appearance than the pictures make it seem! The ultimate plan is to hang it off the VESA mounting holes on the back of my tele'. On the new client, I have installed a very basic Debian system. I then build CVS (or git) ffmpeg, xine-lib, xine-ui (for testing things), and vdr-1.7.21, along with the CVS xineliboutput plugin. My main vdr box is running vdr-1.7.21 along with quite a few plugins. I replaced my current primary device (softdevice) with "-P'xineliboutput -- local=none --remote=37890'" and restarted vdr. I then ran vdr-sxfe on the client box and I had vdr output on the attached monitor (I'm jsut about to nip out to buy an HDMI cable! I assume there was sound too but didn't check this!) The performance with VDPAU is pretty impressive. top shows vdr using about 3% CPU for SD material and this increases to about 7% for HD channels. For comparison, my current vdr setup is a 2.66 GHz Pentium 4 with a Matrox G450 for output and this sually hovers around 30% CPU for SD material. I have yet to fiddle with most of the settings but if I use Hardware blending for the OSD it is amazingly crisp. However, the video does stutter slightly when the OSD changes (moving the "cursor" line down, for example) but that's probably liveable with! At present, I am running all plugins on the server and my remote is still attached to the server. I presume that I should really build / buy another remote receiver, hang it off the client, and use the --lirc argument to vdr-sxfe to forward lirc commands to the server. I also suspect that I can run "full" vdr on the client to allow me to use some plugins on there?! Not looked into that yet. I suspect I can probably just use vdr-sxfe as a basic frontend, with lirc forwarding so I can "hide" the server somewhere else... Cheers, Laz ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On 10/23/2011 06:02 PM, JJussi wrote: > Because this is just client.. > Just vdr-sxfe what is capable play with VDPAU... > > Still I need to solve "some" problems at server end.. Get vdr-1.7 + > skinsoppalusikka + epgsearch + some other plugins to install them to > same machine.. Maybe I need to pick every piece from them original > location and try to compile everything from source code. Maybe a following script is useful for automatizing the build process a bit. I always use it when ever the new version of vdr & plugins have entered to git tree. As there are always couple of system specific config files, the script copies those from my previous vdr-installation dir. In addition the launch command in runvdr line is following: VDRCMD="$VDRPRG --lirc -w 15 -c /home/lamikr/dvb/vdr/vdr.git -v /video -P'xineliboutput --local=none --remote=37890 --video=vdpau' -Pepgsearch -P'osdteletext -d /home/lamikr/dvb/vdr/vdr.git/plugins/osdteletext' -Pskinsoppalusikka -Pfemon -P'live -p 8080' -P'vdrrip -p /usr/bin/mplayer -e /usr/bin/mencoder'" vdr-server-build.sh--- git clone git://projects.vdr-developer.org/vdr.git vdr.git cd vdr.git git checkout -b lamikr cp ../vdr-old.git/channels.conf . cp ../vdr-old.git/remote.conf . cp ../vdr-old.git/svdrphosts.conf . cp ../vdr-old.git/runvdr . mkdir plugins cp -ax ../vdr-old.git/plugins/xineliboutput plugins mkdir -p PLUGINS/lib chmod a+x runvdr cd PLUGINS/src git clone git://projects.vdr-developer.org/xineliboutput.git xineliboutput git clone git://projects.vdr-developer.org/vdr-plugin-osdteletext.git osdteletext git clone git://projects.vdr-developer.org/vdr-plugin-epgsearch.git epgsearch git clone git://projects.vdr-developer.org/vdr-plugin-live.git live git clone git://projects.vdr-developer.org/vdr-plugin-infosatepg.git infosatepg git clone git://projects.vdr-developer.org/vdr-plugin-vdrrip.git vdrrip git clone git://projects.vdr-developer.org/vdr-plugin-markad.git markad wget -c http://www.saunalahti.fi/~rahrenbe/vdr/femon/files/vdr-femon-1.7.10.tgz tar -xvzf vdr-femon-1.7.10.tgz ln -s femon-1.7.10 femon #skinsoppalusikka wget -c http://www.saunalahti.fi/~rahrenbe/vdr/soppalusikka/files/vdr-skinsoppalusikka-1.7.3.tgz tar -xvzf vdr-skinsoppalusikka-1.7.3.tgz ln -s skinsoppalusikka-1.7.3 skinsoppalusikka mkdir -p ../../themes cp -d skinsoppalusikka/themes/*.theme ../../themes/ mkdir -p ../../plugins/skinsoppalusikka cp -d ../../../vdr-old.git/plugins/skinsoppalusikka/*.xpm ../../plugins/skinsoppalusikka/ cd ../.. make make plugins - Mika ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
Because this is just client.. Just vdr-sxfe what is capable play with VDPAU... Still I need to solve "some" problems at server end.. Get vdr-1.7 + skinsoppalusikka + epgsearch + some other plugins to install them to same machine.. Maybe I need to pick every piece from them original location and try to compile everything from source code. Once I had ubuntu lucid + yaVdr testing, then one day I made mistake and let system update itself... Didn't work since! It didn't help to re-install that lucid and add yaVdr testing deb's, it won't install because there is version problems. On 23.10.2011 11.43, M. Fiegert wrote: On 22.10.2011 21:48, JJussi wrote: My choice was Asus AT5IONT-I Deluxe ION Mini ITX + CF to SATA == Totally silent, no fans. Now next big question. Distribution! What distribution offers all needed components... Like xinelib2, so xineliboutput-sxfe could use VDPAU. Do you want a vdr only or a universal pc including vdr? Maybe have a look at yavdr: http://www.yavdr.org/download/ I am running a standard ubuntu 10.4 plus yavdr packets on an ION Board for two years now. VDPAU setup was very easy with this. It seem that there are no recent ubuntu packages though, only vdr-distribution. Michael ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr -- JJussi ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On 22.10.2011 21:48, JJussi wrote: My choice was Asus AT5IONT-I Deluxe ION Mini ITX + CF to SATA == Totally silent, no fans. Now next big question. Distribution! What distribution offers all needed components... Like xinelib2, so xineliboutput-sxfe could use VDPAU. Do you want a vdr only or a universal pc including vdr? Maybe have a look at yavdr: http://www.yavdr.org/download/ I am running a standard ubuntu 10.4 plus yavdr packets on an ION Board for two years now. VDPAU setup was very easy with this. It seem that there are no recent ubuntu packages though, only vdr-distribution. Michael ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
My choice was Asus AT5IONT-I Deluxe ION Mini ITX + CF to SATA == Totally silent, no fans. Now next big question. Distribution! What distribution offers all needed components... Like xinelib2, so xineliboutput-sxfe could use VDPAU. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On 22.10.2011 11:38, Laz wrote: On Saturday 22 October 2011 08:55:01 M. Fiegert wrote: >> Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? >> So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput >> with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection >> optical audio. I bought 2 years ago Zotac IONITX-A-E motherboard which came with atom CPU and nvidia gpu, at that time it cost about 200 euro. ... I made the small case myself and have I have 12" fan running in it in the slowest speed and the case/cpu/gpu temperatures remains under 50 c. I also have such a zotac board. Its running like a charm as a vdr client since almost two years COMPLETELEY NOISELESS (no fan, SSD)! You have Full HD over HDMI (and there is optical output, but I never tried to use). Definatly my recommendation if noise is a concern. see http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2010-January/021920.html Sounds good to me. My current vdr box needs upgrading at some point and it has started doing hard lockups in the psat few weeks (I suspect the PSU is on the way out. Rather than trying to track that down, maybe it's a hint that I need to upgrade to a new system! Is this running in a client-server setup? I.e. DVB devices in another box and then using the libxineoutput plugin? Yes, for me its like this. The server is a core-duo with a cine S2 card (V5) and 2TB video harddisk (as well as other server functionality). It is a pure server without terminal or TV. Does this setup give you full OSD access to timer programming, etc., from the client? (I think that is all meant to be straightforward but does it work in practice?!) Yes it does. It is not that rock solid stable than full-featured one box solution that I had before (running without a glitch for months), but very good usable. I would estimate that vdr-sxfe crashes about once a week, but most of the time is restared in some seconds. In rare cases a kill -9 is necessary which i have on one remote button. This may be much better with recent versions, I am still on ubuntu 10.4 with yavdr which hasn't been updated for a long time. I had some reception problems with HD while summer, but since recordings are playing fine and it is getting better now, i think that is due to reception problems from trees in the line of sight. Though there is some mysteries to be looked into there. No problems with SD. Greetings Michael ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On Saturday 22 October 2011 08:55:01 M. Fiegert wrote: > >> Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? > >> So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput > >> with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection > >> optical audio. > > > > I bought 2 years ago Zotac IONITX-A-E motherboard which came with atom > > CPU and nvidia gpu, at that time it cost about 200 euro. > > ... > > I made the small case myself and have I have 12" fan running in it in > > the slowest speed and the case/cpu/gpu temperatures remains under 50 c. > > I also have such a zotac board. Its running like a charm as a vdr client > since almost two years COMPLETELEY NOISELESS (no fan, SSD)! > You have Full HD over HDMI (and there is optical output, but I never > tried to use). > Definatly my recommendation if noise is a concern. > > see http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2010-January/021920.html Sounds good to me. My current vdr box needs upgrading at some point and it has started doing hard lockups in the psat few weeks (I suspect the PSU is on the way out. Rather than trying to track that down, maybe it's a hint that I need to upgrade to a new system! Is this running in a client-server setup? I.e. DVB devices in another box and then using the libxineoutput plugin? Does this setup give you full OSD access to timer programming, etc., from the client? (I think that is all meant to be straightforward but does it work in practice?!) Cheers, Laz ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
>> Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? >> So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput >> with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection >> optical audio. I bought 2 years ago Zotac IONITX-A-E motherboard which came with atom CPU and nvidia gpu, at that time it cost about 200 euro. ... I made the small case myself and have I have 12" fan running in it in the slowest speed and the case/cpu/gpu temperatures remains under 50 c. I also have such a zotac board. Its running like a charm as a vdr client since almost two years COMPLETELEY NOISELESS (no fan, SSD)! You have Full HD over HDMI (and there is optical output, but I never tried to use). Definatly my recommendation if noise is a concern. see http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2010-January/021920.html Michael ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
I bought 2 years ago Zotac IONITX-A-E motherboard which came with atom CPU and nvidia gpu, at that time it cost about 200 euro. I use it only for web browsing, vdr-client (with vdr-xineliboutput) and music listening purposes and for that kind of things the device works like a charm. With SD material the cpu load is about 10-20 %, when I have VDPAU support enabled. (I think it was about 60-80% without VDPAU.) I made the small case myself and have I have 12" fan running in it in the slowest speed and the case/cpu/gpu temperatures remains under 50 c. Suspend/resume works ok at least with Mandriva 2010.2. (I have configured from the gnome control center the device to suspend if nobody is using it for 3 hours) The only problem I have at the moment is a good infrared or bt remote controller for the device. I currently have Ione Scorpius P20 keyboard with internal mouse, but it's quality is not very good. I have considered of switching it to prodige NanoX or some USB/infrared remote if somebody could suggest a good one... Mika On 10/16/2011 02:02 PM, JJussi wrote: Hi! Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection + optical audio. Of course remote control is needed too! ;-) -- JJussi ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Tony Houghton wrote: >> I'm a vdpau user and can say it's works just fine here. > > Did you compile the xine stack yourself? I find it's very picky, eg if I > try to use a repository with a set of packages that allegedly support > VDPAU, vdr-sxfe doesn't work at all, and there are also difficulties > getting xine, mplayer and gstreamer to all coexist with ffmpeg. I compile xine-lib-1.2 myself. I use mplayer-nogui (and have used mplayer2), but I don't use gstreamer, and don't bother installing ffmpeg since everything works fine without an external copy. > Wouldn't fit. The Microserver only takes low profile cards and the x16 > slot is also the one nearest the side of the case so there's no room for > a double height backplane or thick heatsink like this: Sorry, I missed the low profile card requirement. > An 8400GS might fit, but I wouldn't expect its VDPAU capabilities to be > up to much. I currently use 8200 onboard graphics with mplayer VDPAU and > it's rather jerky as if it's dropping frames just on 720p (with the TV > at 1280x720 so no scaling is required). But that could be mplayer > struggling to sync 24fps to 60Hz. I used 8400's before upgrading to GT220 & GT240. They worked ok but the best deinterlacer I could use on HD content was bob. I haven't used an 8200igp as you are but based on my experience with 8400, I would guess 8400 is the minimum requirement. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:28:17 -0700 VDR User wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Tony Houghton wrote: > > Is this client only with no DVB cards? You could use an Acer Revo, > > provided you're confident that you can get VDPAU working, because > > the Atom CPU is a bit weak for HD. An HP Microserver with an added > > graphics > > I'm a vdpau user and can say it's works just fine here. Did you compile the xine stack yourself? I find it's very picky, eg if I try to use a repository with a set of packages that allegedly support VDPAU, vdr-sxfe doesn't work at all, and there are also difficulties getting xine, mplayer and gstreamer to all coexist with ffmpeg. > > they're only about £130 with the cashback offer. Unfortunately I > > couldn't find a passively cooled VDPAU-capable card that would fit > > so I > > There are a few, here's on example: > > 1 slot passive cooled Zotac GT430 > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500221 Wouldn't fit. The Microserver only takes low profile cards and the x16 slot is also the one nearest the side of the case so there's no room for a double height backplane or thick heatsink like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/240886-asus-geforce-g210-silent-512mb-ddr2-dvi-vga-hdmi-out-directx-10-1-en210-silent-di-512md2-lp- An 8400GS might fit, but I wouldn't expect its VDPAU capabilities to be up to much. I currently use 8200 onboard graphics with mplayer VDPAU and it's rather jerky as if it's dropping frames just on 720p (with the TV at 1280x720 so no scaling is required). But that could be mplayer struggling to sync 24fps to 60Hz. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:28:17 -0700 VDR User wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Tony Houghton wrote: > > Is this client only with no DVB cards? You could use an Acer Revo, > > provided you're confident that you can get VDPAU working, because > > the Atom CPU is a bit weak for HD. An HP Microserver with an added > > graphics > > I'm a vdpau user and can say it's works just fine here. Did you compile the xine stack yourself? I find it's very picky, eg if I try to use a repository with a set of packages that allegedly support VDPAU, vdr-sxfe doesn't work at all, and there are also difficulties getting xine, mplayer and gstreamer to all coexist with ffmpeg. > > they're only about £130 with the cashback offer. Unfortunately I > > couldn't find a passively cooled VDPAU-capable card that would fit > > so I > > There are a few, here's on example: > > 1 slot passive cooled Zotac GT430 > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500221 Wouldn't fit. The Microserver only takes low profile cards and the x16 slot is also the one nearest the side of the case so there's no room for a double height backplane or thick heatsink like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/240886-asus-geforce-g210-silent-512mb-ddr2-dvi-vga-hdmi-out-directx-10-1-en210-silent-di-512md2-lp- An 8400GS might fit, but I wouldn't expect its VDPAU capabilities to be up to much. I currently use 8200 onboard graphics with mplayer VDPAU and it's rather jerky as if it's dropping frames just on 720p (with the TV at 1280x720 so no scaling is required). But that could be mplayer struggling to sync 24fps to 60Hz. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Tony Houghton wrote: > Is this client only with no DVB cards? You could use an Acer Revo, > provided you're confident that you can get VDPAU working, because the > Atom CPU is a bit weak for HD. An HP Microserver with an added graphics I'm a vdpau user and can say it's works just fine here. > they're only about £130 with the cashback offer. Unfortunately I > couldn't find a passively cooled VDPAU-capable card that would fit so I There are a few, here's on example: 1 slot passive cooled Zotac GT430 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500221 ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:02:42 +0300 JJussi wrote: > Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? > So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using > xineliboutput with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or > HDMI connection + optical audio. Is this client only with no DVB cards? You could use an Acer Revo, provided you're confident that you can get VDPAU working, because the Atom CPU is a bit weak for HD. An HP Microserver with an added graphics card (and perhaps extra RAM too) is also worth considering, because they're only about £130 with the cashback offer. Unfortunately I couldn't find a passively cooled VDPAU-capable card that would fit so I had to use a Radeon 5450 [1], and nothing much supports VA-API yet :-(. I wish that would catch on. The HP's 1.3GHz AMD x2 CPU is better than any Atom and seems to be able to play 720p in software OK, but probably wouldn't be able to do any sort of advanced deinterlacing. And it has no onboard sound so you'd need an additional USB or low-profile PCI-E sound card too if you can't use HDMI audio. > Of course remote control is needed too! ;-) Best to buy one separately. [1] You need one with either 2 separate low-profile backplates or be prepared to cut a double one in half because there's no spare slot to the left of the HP's PCI-e x16 slot. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
Le lundi 17 octobre 2011 à 09:39 +0200, brian a écrit : > Looks good. Any chance of underclocking, and getting it totally silent? cpufreq minimum frequency is 1.6GHz for this Core i3 2100 (1.6-3.1 GHz). I don't think one can underclock more than that. Maybe the BIOS can lower voltage, thus heat generation, and lower fan speed a bit more. I was afraid I'd have to limit CPU speed to, say, 2.5GHz, and reproduce a real 2100T, but it never needs to go that far up, so it's good. The fansink is behind a variator (Zalman fanmate), set to the lowest speed. Too bad the motherboard cannot drive the fan with it's PWM system, because it's 4 pins only, and the fansink I selected have a 3 pins fan. Anyway, it's very silent. The case is a Silverstone GD06 with 3 slow-speed fans. They are sufficiently silent for me at stock speed. The overall machine is far from silent, but highly bearable (much less noise than the fridge). > BTW. I'm looking for the same sort of thing, no idea yet what software I > would use, but it would only be a remote VDR "client" for me. To get away > from modulating the signal onto the existing cable I want to add some > small clients if possible. The main VDR would stay in the cellar where > it is now. streamdev-server on the server, to streamdev-client + xineliboutput. or xineliboutput on the server, to vdr-sxfe/fbfe on the client. -- NH ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
On 10/16/2011 03:09 PM, Nicolas Huillard wrote: Le dimanche 16 octobre 2011 à 14:02 +0300, JJussi a écrit : Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection + optical audio. Of course remote control is needed too! ;-) If you also want to remain 100% free on the software side, I'd suggest a mini-ITX Core i3 (SandyBridge) motherboard + PicoPSU power supply: * small : Mini-ITX + reasonable CPU fansink is not that huge * powerful : even a Core i3 2100 is powerful enough (cpufreq is almost always at 1,6GHz, with 4% CPU while decoding SD video ; 2,1GHz / 17% HD video ; I'm not sure which decoding pipe is actually used) * FullHD : Intel video is really good, with 100% free drivers * xineliboutput : I only have an issue with HUD OSD at the moment, and tearing, but I'm sure the situation will improve very quickly with drivers * DVI, HDMI, optical : choose the motherboard you prefer * power consumption : too bad my UPS battery died a few days ago, as it's not able to tell the actual load of my server now. I previously estimated it at 31,5W idle / 67,2W full CPU load (micro-ATX board, Core i3 2100, 2×2TB Western Digital Green, no DVB device at the moment) * remote control : some (if not all) Intel motherboards have Consumer IR connector, with open drivers, cheap eBay IR receivers, capable of powering on the PC That's for the PC-side of things, with a few dozen millions useless transistors. Embedded gizmos are much more integrated, simple, efficient, etc. but always lack the little thing you really need/want, or are a bit difficult to work with. Looks good. Any chance of underclocking, and getting it totally silent? BTW. I'm looking for the same sort of thing, no idea yet what software I would use, but it would only be a remote VDR "client" for me. To get away from modulating the signal onto the existing cable I want to add some small clients if possible. The main VDR would stay in the cellar where it is now. Cheers ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
Le dimanche 16 octobre 2011 à 14:02 +0300, JJussi a écrit : > Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? > So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput > with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection + > optical audio. > > Of course remote control is needed too! ;-) If you also want to remain 100% free on the software side, I'd suggest a mini-ITX Core i3 (SandyBridge) motherboard + PicoPSU power supply: * small : Mini-ITX + reasonable CPU fansink is not that huge * powerful : even a Core i3 2100 is powerful enough (cpufreq is almost always at 1,6GHz, with 4% CPU while decoding SD video ; 2,1GHz / 17% HD video ; I'm not sure which decoding pipe is actually used) * FullHD : Intel video is really good, with 100% free drivers * xineliboutput : I only have an issue with HUD OSD at the moment, and tearing, but I'm sure the situation will improve very quickly with drivers * DVI, HDMI, optical : choose the motherboard you prefer * power consumption : too bad my UPS battery died a few days ago, as it's not able to tell the actual load of my server now. I previously estimated it at 31,5W idle / 67,2W full CPU load (micro-ATX board, Core i3 2100, 2×2TB Western Digital Green, no DVB device at the moment) * remote control : some (if not all) Intel motherboards have Consumer IR connector, with open drivers, cheap eBay IR receivers, capable of powering on the PC That's for the PC-side of things, with a few dozen millions useless transistors. Embedded gizmos are much more integrated, simple, efficient, etc. but always lack the little thing you really need/want, or are a bit difficult to work with. -- NH ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
Dear JJussi, Am Sonntag, den 16.10.2011, 14:02 +0300 schrieb JJussi: > Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? > So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput > with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection + > optical audio. I am not having tested anything. Two things come to my mind if you assemble the system yourself. 1. ASRock E350M1 [1] for around 85 € [2]. (There is a USB3 variant too if you need that.) All you need is RAM and a case. The graphic chipset is powerful enough for FullHD playback. The reason I am recommending this board is it is supported by coreboot [3][4]. So buy one or two backup flash chips, build an image or use a demo image, flash it to the chip using flashrom [5] and enjoy hardware initialization in less than a second. Using a SSD (and systemd [6] (?)) it should be almost an instant on experience. 2. PandaBoard [7]. If you have a little more time to set things up the PandaBoard should be a nice platform. Costing around 170 € it is a little more expensive but it is small but has everything integrated (no RAM needed). I have been told boot up times using the Ȧngström distribution [8] (uses OpenEmbedded framework [9]) with systemd in less than four seconds. The chips on there are powerful enough for FullHD playback even without the proprietary PowerVR stuff. You will probably need to put some effort into getting Xine and xineliboutput to run as it is not packaged for OpenEmbedded yet. > Of course remote control is needed too! ;-) Can’t you use your old one? Otherwise I am not having any suggestions. I heard the MSCE remotes are supported quite well though. Thanks, Paul [1] http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=E350M1 [2] http://www.cyberport.de/?DEEP=2310-18R&APID=1 [3] http://coreboot.org/ [4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IntsDeX_s1M [5] http://flashrom.org/ [6] http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ [7] http://www.pandaboard.org/ [8] http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ [9] http://www.openembedded.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
hi, I ordered this one (with SSD drive) for the same purpose: Shuttle Barebone XS35GT V2 but no experience yet... Kimmo Sent from my iPad On 16.10.2011, at 14.02, JJussi wrote: > Hi! > Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? > So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput with > FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection + optical > audio. > > Of course remote control is needed too! ;-) > > -- > JJussi > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
Am 10/16/11 13:02, schrieb JJussi: Hi! Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection + optical audio. Of course remote control is needed too! ;-) Hi! I have build a similar system (not small, but cheap, powerful, quiet and FullHD-replay with simple software-decoding) last year and documented it at http://loescher-online.de/vdr.html -> "HDTV-Client" It is written in German, but the technical parts should be clear. If you have any questions, please ask me. Greetings, Stephan. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] Wanted VDR xineliboutput client
Hi! Any suggestions for small, powerful, quiet, FullHD VDR client? So, I search machine what would act as VDR-client, using xineliboutput with FullHD resolution and machine would have DVI or HDMI connection + optical audio. Of course remote control is needed too! ;-) -- JJussi ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
