Re: [VFB]
Talk about your kitchen sink of chemicals! But that does sound like lacquer based thinners, not varnish thinners. I am coming at this from someone who has used varnishes for several years to finish bamboo rods. I even tried making my own varnish from some 200 year old recipes. Keep in mind that different countries and even different states ban certain substances, or at least certain quantities of substances. If you bought a can of brand X five years ago, I can almost guarantee that it isn't the same formula as today. Now for furniture I use shellac or lacquer but not varnish. True varnish isn't needed for the indoors and takes too long to cure. It was meant for ship building and protecting wood from UV light as well as water. Shellac and lacquer both look great, buff out to a better finish than varnish, cure much faster but don't do anything to protect wood from the elements. They really are different beasts and the best way to get to know what is in your can is look at the MSDS. What's the harm in using lacquer thinner in varnish? I suppose it depends on what you are doing. Trying to cement a head on a personal fly, probably not much. Especially if you are likely to lose it to the trees or have it wear out in a couple of seasons. Using it on a presentation grade fly meant only for display could mean that in a few years the varnish could discolor and flake off. Take your thumbnail to the head on one of your older flies and see if it holds up. Is it soft and gummy or flaky, or is it hard as a rock just like the hard as nails slogan? Personally I use lacquer from the hardware store for flies and save the varnish for my rods. But most of the time I just make sure I use a good whip finish and skip the head cement altogether. If you really want to pinch pennies, A.K. Best suggests in one of his books getting a quart of lacquer from the hardware store as well. Scott On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.cawrote: Scott: My can of lacquer thinners lists the following as contents: toulene, methyl ethyl keytone, methanol acetone Neville (Nev) Gosling On 2012-03-12, at 12:03 PM, Scott Bearden wrote: Neville that sounds like lacquer by the description and considering that lingo changes from one country to the next, it is quite possible that what they are calling varnish, we market as lacquer at least here in the US. Lacquer thinner is nothing more than acetone or acetate or similar liquid. It will also strip old varnish and of course that is what women use for nail polish remover. Varnish thinners wont strip strip varnish so chemicals like naptha, toluene, minerla spirits and the such are only good for thinning the product and cleaning up immediately after application. Once the curing process has begun they have no effect on actually thinning the varnish. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Dangit - VFB posts not coming through. See below
Got it. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.netwrote: If any of you receive this post from me via the VFB email list, please let me know. Thanks, JIMMY D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/vfb-mail?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] ATTN: Wayne Blake-Hedges
Bob, Not to poo-poo your idea but bamboo isn't just bamboo. There are thousands of species around the world. Bamboo rodmakers around the world pretty much get all of their bamboo out of a particular tiny remote hillside in Guangdong China that has a particular species (Arundinaria amabilis) trade named Tonkin (not to be confused with the Gulf of Tonkin). Part of the magic is the species, the other half is the environment. Just like Jamaican Blue Mountian coffee or Vidalia onions, it just isn't the same, not by a long shot if grown any where else. In this case, the soil is slightly acidic, it rains 80% of the year, hurricane strength winds whip the bamboo back and forth making it very strong. It never gets cold, stays temperately hot and humid most of the year. All these things produce a bamboo that is stronger ounce for ounce that steel. Japanese rodmakers use a native bamboo there that is what we commonly find in a lot of bamboo related goods here, flooring, cutting boards, etc. It is much softer and weaker, but can be used for lighter rods. Over 120 years ago a variety from India was used, but it was soft and weak too and it also was plagued with a type of worm that ate it. The stuff we use grows 40-60 feet high in three years. We only use the bottom 12 ft. Not to mention that harvesting, cleaning, drying, and then dry storing bamboo for a couple of years is a huge investment in time. By the time it goes on a ship to the US it has already seen several hours of labor and two years in a warehouse properly drying out. Just like green lumber, you don't want to use it, and often the best woodworkers are using wood that was harvested years if not decades ago. I am using bamboo that was purchased in 2008 and was harvested in 2005. So to end an already lengthy explanation, this isn't something Wayne or anybody else probably wants to take on. Many of us bamboo rodmakers have been called out of the blue by some farmer that is either looking to cash in, or just wants some free labor to clear out a very invasive plant. My advice is if they don't want it to come back they need to get a bulldozer to get a couple of feet below it because it is a plant with a rhizome and it will spread under the ground. Quite rapidly I might add. Regards, Scott On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Bob Hendry robinhoo...@gmail.com wrote: Wayne, Yesterday I had a chance to chat with my uncle - he tells me that my mother-in-law (Waldorf) has a lot of bamboo that needs to be cut down. I mentioned that you may be interested, and he told me that he has tons of very high bamboo growing in his back yard (La Plata) - maybe 50 to 100 at approx 15 to 20 foot high. Let me know is you're still interested. Cheers, Bob Hendry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: You think the hair extension fad was bad...
It makes me wonder just how many PETA lovers out there have been running around with these feathers in their hair. I would bet that a few have. Scott On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, dsdur...@msn.com dsdur...@msn.com wrote: OH My... If you think it's bad for us think about the poor roosters! It must be tough on them to be in such high demand. Deb On Oct 22, 11:27 am, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Just wait until this hits the markets here. Yep- ALL Saddle hackles! Chick-a-boom, Chick-a-boom...doant ya' juss love it ! Jean-Paul-Gautier.jpg 77KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] FW: Gotta See This!
Don, Can you send this again in a different format? The attachment was sent as .eml which can only be opened by Outlook and from Gmail I didn't even see the body of the message. Even on the Google Groups page it shows the individual pictures for download, but I get a document not found server error for each one. In fact, what you see below, is what I saw of your email. Thanks, Scott On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscribe@** googlegroups.com vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/vfb-mail?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Juicebug update and a slight feather problem
They have infomercials now for do it yourself feather extensions that you can easily remove. Feathers from just about any bird imaginable from what they showed in the commercial. It pretty much depicted what I feared most, that this fad wasn't just relegated to simply saddle hackle. Once demand outstripped supply, they looked around to see what else was readily available. I am seeing rooster capes, hen saddles, salt water capes and saddles, lots of peacock and guinea. I am pessimistic that the dust will settle soon if ever. And when it does, the suppliers wont want to sell it for the prices we were accustomed to prior to the apocalypse. I think fly tying has been turned on its head. The good news is this will force us to start using less conventional materials more so than ever and I suspect we will see a lot of new patterns in the coming decade as a result. Scott On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.comwrote: Perhaps the prices will actually drop after this fad for awhile. There may be a short term surplus of hackle due to some firms increasing production and then having the bottom fall out of the market. Whishfull thinking on my part but, who knows? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] VFB - where'd everybody go ???
Has the economy taken the wind out of everyone's sails? DonO No. In my case a rock star and a bunch of teenage girls have taken feathers off the shelves. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Tony,
Just so everyone knows I personally stay clear of AVG because it was funded and created by a company owned by the KGB. Sometimes the free lunch has a has a hidden agenda. Think back to 2008 when Russia invaded the country of Georgia and caused a country wide electronic blackout. Just something to think about. Scott On Jul 29, 2011 6:03 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yes folks, I have been hacked. Tony Tony, go to: http://www.filehippo.com Look under Malware Download AVG FREE. It's an antivirus that should stop that. Download it, run it, and...I'll have to check on my laptop to see if you have to set it up for automatic operation or not. I think that's all you have to do. Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Catskill And Streamer update 6/4/11
Peggy, Have my flies arrived yet? They should have been there by last wed or Thurs. Thanks, Scott On Jun 4, 2011 4:45 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: I have several sets on the way, so when all are here I'll mail out both these and the streamer swap as some swappers took part in both. 1 Peggy Brenner -- Dark Hendrickson 2 Don Ordes - Arrived Dry Fly BWO and with a drop dead gorgeous streamer! 3 Rene Zillmann 4 Larry Johnson - Arrived Brunt Wing Lt Cahill nicely done.. 5 Tom Davenport 6 Scott Bearden 7 Dail Graham 8 Bob Laubengayer Arrived (a while ago) Sierra's BWO and nicely done! 9 Joyce Westphall Arrived Ketterman's and all I can say is Wow! 10 Alan Fish-Arrived Quill Gordon and they are nice Alan! 11 J Balmer #12 Umpqua Dry another very nice set of dry's 12 Michael Bliss arrived Quill Gordon variant and beautiful! 13 Thomas Eckert Arrived Gordon Quills hatched and are Here! Deadline June 1, 2011! Mail to : Peggy Brenner 266 N River Rd Milford, NH 03055 -- Peggy Brenner http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Hare's ear/mask dubbing article
Don, Those look great. Is that from the hare's ear mask I sent you? Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Streamer Swap first Arrivals
Mine are going to be a few days late. I have 4 more to tie up tonight and I will try to get them to the post office tomorrow. Sorry, Scott On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: 1 Don Ordes Arrived PB Streamers and Nice ones at that! 2 Gary Smith 3 Rene Zillman 4 Pacres 5 Scott Bearden 6 Dail Graham 7 Dave Masson 8 Peggy Brenner 9 Robert Laubengayer 10 Soren Finne Deadline is not till April 15, forget your taxes, tie streamers. And mail to: Peggy Brenner 266 N River Rd Milford, NH 03055 -- Peggy Brenner http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Streamer swap announcement 2011
Count me in for the streamer swap. Scott On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Pacres pac...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in for a streamer swap! On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:40 AM, rene.zillm...@t-online.de rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Peggy, sounds great, I'm in. I'll decide soon, what I will ty! Rene -Original-Nachricht- Subject: [VFB] Streamer swap announcement 2011 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 00:52:11 +0100 From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com It's been a while since I hosted a streamer swap, tried one in the summer and it was slim pickens for tyers. So let's go with a single or tandem streamer of choice. Max 10 tyers. Deadline April 15, in time for trolling for big fish after ice out. Peggy -- Peggy Brenner http://pbandj.us/SixSistersFlybox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- http://dailyflytyer.com - The Daily Fly Tyer http://streamers365.com - Streamers 365 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Big Brown
Tom, What Tony was referring to is the scientific capture and study of fish known as electro shocking. It safely stuns the fish for a few minutes without killing them and allows biologists to make scientific observations and then release them with minimal harm. This is a very effective method of finding out the quantity and size of fish in a water system. The fish in the article is far from the biggest. I also doubt they would take pictures of any record breaking fish. I have been told that a few biologists have claimed 50 and even 60 pounds browns electro shocked in those water systems in Arkansas. They could just be blowing smoke, but if they posted pictures publicly the sound of the stampede of fishermen would sound like an army of elephants on a rampage. For more reading on the method: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrofishing Scott On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Tom Davenport t...@comcast.net wrote: Tony, you are either just stating the facts, or have a very droll sense of humor. Which? On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote: Electric Shock. Tony --- On *Mon, 1/24/11, Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu* wrote: From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu Subject: Re: [VFB] Big Brown To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 2:37 PM That fish could swallow a football ! What was used to catch such a fish? Larry J Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com 1/24/2011 1:04 PM This came out of the White. Several others in the 28 to 30 inch class have been caught in the past few weeks. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Whose going to Sowbug?
I am going to Sowbug as well. I have not made arrangements yet. Scott On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Tom Davenport t...@comcast.net wrote: Who is going to Sowbug, and where will you be staying? Last time I went, there were several of us staying in the same motel and we got to hang out in the evenings. The time before that there were a bunch of us staying at the resort on the river (Wildcat shoals?) It certainly added to the fun! I haven't made lodging reservations yet, but would like to soon. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: Miniature fly rod and reel
One of these days I am going to make a miniature bamboo rod like that one just for the novelty of it. I doubt there is much of a market for it. I wish I could buy those reels separately, but it doesn't appear that way. Scott On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, ray...@earthlink.net wrote: There's a company that makes tiny fly rods and reels. Rod aboout18 long and rel about the size of a half dollar. I'm sure somebody will remember it. We had a nice thread on this little guy a few years back. As I remember, they ain't cheap, but really nice. JIMMY D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Tony, Well she could go really old school and use the hanging ring guides. That would get a lot of double takes on a graphite rod! Scott On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: BLACK SINGLE FOOT GUIDES!! the bain of rod making as color preserver is to wraps. LOL Tony --- On *Tue, 1/4/11, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de* wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying?? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 3:19 PM Guides to a rod blank Recipe: Hook: a pacbay blanc, sz. 5 wt. Guides: Black, single foot Thread: dark olive Varnish: Epoxy Rene Rene On 01/04/2011 03:59 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Wayne, Have you ordered any fox squirrel yet? The reason I ask is I have the same video and have been meaning to buy a squirrel hide. And when you posted this it reminded me that I have been wanting to not just do the red fox squirrel, but also a black squirrel. Since they are found in nature, I would rather use the real deal instead of messing with dyes. I would be interested in some died in picric acid, but I would have to track down someone who can do that safely for me.I have a copy of Dyeing and Bleaching by A.K. Best but I have yet to read it. Scott On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi All; What's everyone tying these days?? I just finished up my flies for the SowBug swap last weekend and moving on to something for trout. I always wanted to tie Dave Whitlock's red fox squirrel nymph, got his DVD for xmas and think I'll give it a go. Anyone have suggestions to sizes for trout? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: What's everybody tying??
Ooops. My sincere apologies Rene! Scott On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Rene is a HE from Germany. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods
Wayne, I wouldn't say lighter. The have more mass than a hex rod of the same taper. For throwing bass bugs I would pick a Dickerson 8014 Guide Series. They were designed for one shot casts with heavy streamers from a swiftly moving boat. You don't have time for a lot of backcasts in that scenario so it is pretty much point and shoot. I made a 6wt version of that and fished it for a couple of months before giving it to a friend. It had lots of backbone. If you keep your eyes peeled on ebay you might get lucky and pick up a heavy granger or heddon rod. But they still wont be cheap. Anybody who knows what they have will set the price higher. The other problem is any rod less than 9 feet goes for more because of scarcity. And you don't want a 9 footer. Scott On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Tony Scott; So, let me see if I have this right. Quads are more difficult to make but, stiffer, faster, and potentially lighter than a hex rod? Wayneb --- On *Sun, 1/2/11, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 9:55 AM I hope posting about bamboo rods does not turn any one off. The list needs some activity and at this time, this seems to be it. Scott is correct about being more difficult to plane out. not as forgiving as a Hex. The rod that Scott is talking about is based on a Garrison taper that was converted from a hex taper. It is also twisted. It is the only twisted quad I know of that was made. I like to play with things. I had it at the Catskill Rodmakers Gathering and for three days, it would not stay on the casting rack. Someone had it out casting it most of the three days.This rod also has the grip and seat made from Corn Cobs. It has alternate dark and light strips when twisted looks like a Barber Pole. I won the fishing contest up there with it and a Chili Pepper. I had a friend casting it in my back yard and had a mishap. Broke the tip on it. Some day I will be making a new tip or repair this one. I generally make bamboo ferrules for my quads. On this one I made a quad Nickle Silver ferrule with four slits. Tony --- On *Sun, 1/2/11, Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 12:09 AM Wayne, Quad rods are a little more difficult to make. The strips have to be wider and are therefore a little harder to straighten with heat. Another consideration is how to handle the ferrules. Most ferrules sold come round and have 6 slits to accommodate hex rods. You could use one size larger ferrules and build up the ferrule station a little thicker and then turn that round. Or some rodmakers buy the ferrules without the slits cut and swage them square and cut the slits themselves. There are lots of cons to making them, which is one reason you see less of them on the market. The edges also tend to fray and split easier and so you might wind up with glue lines no matter how well you do planing it out. I know they don't bind very well in a Garrison style binder which will bang those sharp edges a lot more than a hex. As far as fishing them, quads tend to be stiffer and track straighter. But all things being equal it really comes down to the taper. Tony made a sweet little 4 wt quad that I thought cast a little better with a 3wt SA mastery line. I still don't remember what taper he used, but it was swet. Scott On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All; Speaking of bamboo rods, what are the advantages/disadvantages of a quad versus hexagonal shaped blank? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's
Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies
Wayne, To add to the suggestions that everybody else has said, I would say that in our neck of the woods I wouldn't leave home without several different ant patterns. Scott On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi All; One of my goals for 2011 is to get into flyfishing for trout on a regular basis. What would be a good selection of flies to start with for trout fishing? Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods
Wayne, I had to have a good chuckle about Dickerson's coming up on the used market. They are among some of the most collectible today. I would venture a guess that even in today's market you might be looking at $5000-10,000. But the tapers are publicly available and I happen to like them a lot. If you are looking at fishing collectible tackle, you really can't go wrong with Granger or Heddon. Both companies made excellent rods that are still today more affordable than a lot of mainstream graphite. Scott On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Scott; Interesting, the quad you have and quads I've seen of Tony's all seemed really light in my hands. They also felt pretty stiff and fast compared to anything I've heard or seen in other bamboo rods. I've been surfing Clark's board and kinda researching as much as I could, it seems like what I could glean was the Heddon two digit 8 1/2' to 9' rods are pretty decent bass rods. I know whatever I try in bamboo will be more than likely pretty heavy but hey, I'm going for nostalgia and my arm is pretty strong. I have a 9 1/2' fiberglass Garcia 2406 and it's real heavy. I can cast some really big stuff with it and I'm good for at least 2hrs of leisurley casting before I know I need a break. Is the Dickerson 8014 Guide series a rod that's available on the used market or, a taper that could be built? Wayne i --- On *Sun, 1/2/11, Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 12:28 PM Wayne, I wouldn't say lighter. The have more mass than a hex rod of the same taper. For throwing bass bugs I would pick a Dickerson 8014 Guide Series. They were designed for one shot casts with heavy streamers from a swiftly moving boat. You don't have time for a lot of backcasts in that scenario so it is pretty much point and shoot. I made a 6wt version of that and fished it for a couple of months before giving it to a friend. It had lots of backbone. If you keep your eyes peeled on ebay you might get lucky and pick up a heavy granger or heddon rod. But they still wont be cheap. Anybody who knows what they have will set the price higher. The other problem is any rod less than 9 feet goes for more because of scarcity. And you don't want a 9 footer. Scott On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wayneb22...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Tony Scott; So, let me see if I have this right. Quads are more difficult to make but, stiffer, faster, and potentially lighter than a hex rod? Wayneb --- On *Sun, 1/2/11, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com * wrote: From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 9:55 AM I hope posting about bamboo rods does not turn any one off. The list needs some activity and at this time, this seems to be it. Scott is correct about being more difficult to plane out. not as forgiving as a Hex. The rod that Scott is talking about is based on a Garrison taper that was converted from a hex taper. It is also twisted. It is the only twisted quad I know of that was made. I like to play with things. I had it at the Catskill Rodmakers Gathering and for three days, it would not stay on the casting rack. Someone had it out casting it most of the three days.This rod also has the grip and seat made from Corn Cobs. It has alternate dark and light strips when twisted looks like a Barber Pole. I won the fishing contest up there with it and a Chili Pepper. I had a friend casting it in my back yard and had a mishap. Broke the tip on it. Some day I will be making a new tip or repair this one. I generally make bamboo ferrules for my quads. On this one I made a quad Nickle Silver ferrule with four slits. Tony --- On *Sun, 1/2/11, Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott.bear...@gmail.com * wrote: From: Scott Bearden scott.bear...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott.bear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 12:09 AM Wayne, Quad rods are a little more difficult to make. The strips have to be wider and are therefore a little harder to straighten with heat. Another consideration is how to handle the ferrules. Most ferrules sold come round and have 6 slits to accommodate hex rods. You could use one size larger
Re: [VFB] OT 60 years
Tony, Congratulations on your wedding anniversary and quite a mile stone. I share several of your hobbies as you are well aware and each year it seems I pick up another. I have only been married 7 years and each year I wonder what is keeping her from killing me. Besides kevlar clothing and my dog as a food tester, any advice to help me make it to 60 in one piece? Seriously, congratulations and here is wishing you many more! Scott On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.comwrote: A number of you have met my wife Dot Today Dot and I are celebrating 60 years of wedded bliss.? She has put up with my fly tying, canoe building, airplane building, photography, fly fishing and now bamboo rod making along with other hobbies like wood and leather carving and furniture building. I guess I can't complain. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Christmas Season
Tony, I want to echo your sentiments, but I also want to thank you personally. This list is full of great people that are very free in sharing knowledge. I have learned much here. I also want to thank you Tony for giving me the push I needed to start making bamboo rods a few years back and also all the advice and help with fly tying. Because of you I am a much better fly fisher, fly tier and rodmaker. Merry Christmas, Scott On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: This is the Christmas Season so I want to wish all on the list a Happy and Safe Holiday Season.Let us not forget what Christmas really is. I want to thank all for the friendship of the list members I have met and the ones I have only met on line for the respect all have given me. I hope I was able to help some of you get a rod made. Lets hope for this coming year to be a better year for all of us. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Gudebrod
Nick, They laid off their entire workforce back in August. http://www.pottsmerc.com/articles/2010/08/03/news/srv008996077.txt On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: Gudebrod was never out from business. They only terminated their fly-tying program, but they never quit supplying their rod wrapping thread. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Harmen Boshuis Skickat: den 2 december 2010 21:57 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Gudebrod For those that would like to know. Looks like Gudebrod may be back in business. Just received an announcement a supplier and they expect new stock to start arriving mid winter. This was for rod wrapping thread so not sure what else there may be. Harmen No infections found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo System Shield® http://www.iolo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: Re: [VFB] Bullets- Mike - Don't like guns?- DELETE
Luckily there are only black bears in my neck of the woods. I can get away with .45 ACP. I had one curious black bear come up on me while fishing a few years ago. I saw some movement out of the corner of my eye as a large black bear made his way down a hill. I was unarmed so I grabbed the largest rock I could find, stood on a boulder and started waving my arms and shouting at it. Meanwhile my fishing buddy was conveniently taking a leak. So the term getting caught with your pants takes on a whole new meaning to me now. He couldn't hear what I was shouting about over the roar of the river and by the time he pulled his waders up the bear was already gone. The bear stopped dead in his tracks about 50 yards from me and stood up on his haunches as if he couldn't hear me either and didn't know I was there. The bear turned around and ran right back up the way it just came. Then my friend comes walking over casually and asks if I caught a fish because of all the shouting. He didn't see a thing. Might as well have been a UFO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Sowbug
Tony, The committee already found me on facebook. It seems so far away since I was just out there. I need to work on some new flies to tie for next year. Thank you again for getting me into Sowbug. It means a lot to me. Maybe that will be a good time to do that interview? Scott On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: The tyers list has been lost. If you plan on tying or have tyed at the Sowbug, contact me off list. I will let you know who to contact to get back on the tyers list. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Fiberglass rods now bamboo
I made a Sir D as my first rod a few years back with guidance from Tony. Despite having made others, this one is still my favorite. I like the variations on it at different lengths and line weights. I built the 7' 4wt version and it casts like a dream. I am currently putting together a nodeless version with alternating flamed and blond splices. I might have to try making a twisted one. Tony made a twisted quad that is probably the best casting 3 wt I have ever held in my hands Scott On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: I use the Sir D Taper. It is considered fast for bamboo. Twisting it makes it even faster. This is a rod that I have never heard a complaint about. It is a Wayne Cattanach taper that he developed for dry fly fishing. I find I can cast dries, wets and small poppers with it and it still has all the control I want. Two list members now have them, they might pop in. Tony --- On *Thu, 10/7/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com* wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Fiberglass rods now bamboo To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 3:36 PM So what calculations do you use for the twisted rod? I'm thinking a fast action for punching through the wind. DonO - Original Message - *From:* Anthony Spezio http://mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 07, 2010 12:11 PM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Fiberglass rods now bamboo If there is no interest in this, I can take it off list. The rods most of us now make are all hand crafted and not machine made like most of the older bamboo rods. We also heat treat to what we think is the best to temper the bamboo, this makes the bamboo stronger and more lively. To get the rod to bend where you want it to bend, the taper is adjusted for that. If you want a rod with a faster tip, the tip section is thinned down. If you want it to be a medium action, then the mid section is adjusted, If parabolic then the butt section is thinned down. There are a lot of proven tapers that are available. I use mostly use tapers by Paul Young and Garrison the tapers that have been modified. The Sir D, 7' 4wt and the Anderson 7/9 7'9 5 wt are my favorite tapers. Long story on the Sir D will tell you about that when I see you in March. Will let you cast mine and my 7/9.. From what I read, we now make some of the best casting bamboo rods made. That does not mean that some of the old rods don't cast good. Some are exceptional some are dogs. Computers are used to work out tapers and improve the old tapers. Working by hand has more control in planing the strips. It takes me approx 60 hours to make a two tip 7' rod. Tony --- On *Thu, 10/7/10, Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Wayne Blake-Hedges wayneb22...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Fiberglass rods now bamboo To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 10:44 AM Hi Tony; I have a feeling the rods you make far exceed the quality and capabilities of an Old South Bend. I'm not saying the South Bend is a bad rod, just that the rods you make are of higher quality, and are craft made one at a time. Wayne --- On *Thu, 10/7/10, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Fiberglass rods now bamboo To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 11:13 AM I had one and a bamboo rod dealer talked me out of it for 300.00. He resold ot for a nice profit. It is not just an Old South Bend. It is a sweet casting rod. Wish I would of kept mine. Tony --- On *Thu, 10/7/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net* wrote: From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Fiberglass rods now bamboo To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 8:48 AM It is just an old South Bend 7 ½ footer. Thank you, Alan Di Somma You know your a redneck when: You burn your yard, instead of mowing it... http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - *From:* Anthony Spezio *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:21 AM *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Fiberglass rods now bamboo What make and length. Tony --- On *Wed, 10/6/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net* wrote: From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Fiberglass rods To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 5:57 PM My favorite rod for small streams that are over grown is my Bamboo rod. it was the first one I bought about 25 years ago and I still love it. This is one that I will be passing down to one of my grandsons. Thank you, Alan Di Somma You know your a redneck when: You burn your yard, instead of mowing it... http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - *From:* Anthony Spezio *To:*
Re: [VFB] Rene- guides
If double hauling is your thing and you need to reach way out and shoot line, then the slickness of the guides will dramatically help your cast. Buy the very best ceramic inserts you can buy. Don't buy the cheap knock offs, buy Fuji and do all the guides, the stripper, and the tip top. Begin each fishing session with a clean and lubricated line or none of this will amount to much. Personally I would only do this on salt water rods or maybe salmon or steelhead rods. If you are casting beyond 50 or so feet in fresh water for trout then I have to question how you can cast to a particular rising fish, or see even a size 14 adams, let alone a size 20 midge. Or for that matter, how do you get a good drift with multiple currents between you and the fish? Just to give you guys an idea of how gimmicky this stuff can be, just a decade ago teflon coated guides were available for custom rod builders and they didn't last long. Unfortunately fishing equipment is subject to the same rules of consumerism as anything else. Consumers get bored with otherwise outstanding products if they are not tweaked and labeled improved over last year's model. If you look over time, the first guides were just a tip top guide and you beached the fish after swinging a brace of a dozen or more flies through a pool of fish. Then someone decided they wanted to retrieve the line, so they added trumpet guides and then later floppy ring guides sometime around or after the Civil War. Snake guides were used prior to the turn of the century, but didn't catch on for a couple of decades. After WW2 there were several short lived guides with cork screws or other catchy gimmicks. REC recoil guides are interesting, but they have yet to saturate the market. Buy what makes you happy, and rest easy that if you don't like them, they are fairly inexpensive compared to anything else going on the rod and they can be replaced if you don't like them. A lot of this is psychological. So if you have already made up in your mind what will make you happy on a rod, then by all means satisfy that desire. If you build a rod you love, then you will fish it more often, and that is a good thing. The Sharkskin lines cast a lot like the old silk lines. They make a lot of noise, but they do cast well. But I don't have much need for long distance casts. Scott On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.netwrote: I think the slickness of the guides, and the shape of the guides on the regular eyes that have the (usually plastic) inserts, if those are oval, round etc, I would think that would speed up, or slow down a line. My 1 1/2 cents worth, Chuck - Original Message - From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rene- guides Rene, I dunno... the slickness of the guide material would seem to be more important than the shape, it you're like shooting the line. Otherwise, it don't seem to matter much. That new Sharkskin flyline claims to move thru the guides easier. Anyone use that yet? D - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rene- Hi Don, to the snake/loop guides. When I look at my forecast and with the snake guides, the line sticks more at the rod's blank, than with single foot guides. they ensure a bit more distance. Fo the backcast I see no difference in this point. your thought? Rene Don Ordes wrote: This is a question for our intrepid Tony the Tiger. I have both loop guides (single foot) and snake guides (double foot), and I can't feel a difference. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3143 - Release Date: 09/18/10 01:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [VFB] Best fish of the summer / snake guides v. single foot guide
Rene, Tony helped me get started making bamboo rods. From personal experience I prefer Snake Brand snake guides. I made a set of identical rods, except one was with single foots and the other with snakes. I am not an expert caster, but there was no discernible notice to me. I think a lot of it is marketing hype. Consumers need to see new things all the time or they don't want to buy. If anything I say make your choice based on what looks best to you because I doubt most people can feel a difference. Just my $0.02. Regards, Scott On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.dewrote: Hi Don, I don't know what kinda stick thei'r usin' booot... this rises a question for me: Most fly rodds are sold with snake guides, I usually feel, that single foot guides have less impact on the blanks (aka rod)'s action. So I build most of my rods with single food guides. Only my 2 9wt' rods for the salt are using snake guides (mostly because the kit did contain 'em). @all + Don: What is your opinion about single vs. snake guides? Rene btw: While our bamboo tony is recovering (I'm really glad to hear 'bout it), nice idea from Don to talk rods. btw2: just finished my botttle of excellent red wine to the bbq, hope my English is not to bad.. G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Stripped screw remover tools
Most of these tools are just a gimmick. Next time make a slurry with Commet, or a scrubbing cleanser like it and paste that into the screw head. Place as much downward pressure as you can manage, and if the screw head hasn't already been completely rounded, it will come out. Works like a champ 99% of the time as long as there is something left for the slurry and screw driver to bite into. Scott On Jun 1, 2010 2:32am, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks: I'm posting this to all these groups cause even though it may sound off topic, it's really not, cause MANY ppl have to deal with rusted bolts, screws. etc. Any of us who have even done any mechanic work know what a life saver an Ez Out can be at times. So, I started seeing commercial lately for these tools that will extract stripped screws instead. It looked like magic on TV (like always) LOL... I got a set of three tools, to remove screws sized 1, sized 2, and sized 3. One end has a left handed drill bit thingy to ream out the hole. Them, the other end has a square, or rectangular bit that removes the stripped out screw. My son bought himself an old Dodge Ram 50 pickup, and the carburetor was flooding BAD and I needed to rebuild it, but it was like the screws were welded into place LOL.. What I ended up doing was to take my old trusty dremal tool, put in a 1 cutting wheel, and cut out as slot all the way across the head of the screws thus turning a Phillips head into huge flat head. It worked and I was able to remove EVERY screw. So, if you are need of something like, save your money and buy the dremal tool cut off wheels instead. NOW.. Since the carb is in 100 pieces, whether I get it all back together is anybody's bet LOL.. The rebuilt kit is supposed to be in Wednesday.If you hear LOUD cursing, that's just me down here in Bama, trying to get it back together LOL, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Ant fly swap 2010
Count me in. Scott On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:40 AM, glw...@gundluth.org wrote: I'll take a spot. Gary L Webb J McK woodenleg...@hot mail.com To Sent by: Fly Swap vfb-m...@googlegr vfb-mail@googlegroups.com oups.com cc Subject 05/28/2010 10:02 [VFB] Ant fly swap 2010 AM Please respond to vfb-m...@googlegr oups.com I have Five spots left for this swap Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P. O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Superglue
Allan and Wayne, I agree completely. The cut is far worse. By the time I am done planing one rod I have dozens of micro cuts on my finger tips and if I am lucky that is all. There are the plane blades that I sharpen to 12000 grit. There are the razor blades I hone on a black Arkansas stone to make them even sharper than out of the package. And then there are the precisely cut triangles that might as well be a razor's edge as well. I sliced my thumb to the bone one time, but I got stitches for that. I don't care what anybody says, getting sliced hurts. I think I would rather be shot or stabbed. Scott On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Scott; What hurts more the initial cut or the super glue repair?? Wayne, I'm not Scott, but for my money, the cut is much* worse* (or the cracked fingers in my case). The superglue is more of a sting that only lasts a few seconds. If you can't stand the little sting of superglue, you probably shouldn't play with sharp objects! :-P a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Superglue
While making bamboo rods, I seem to get cut quite often, many different ways, and often they are like deep paper cuts. Bamboo can be sharp as a razor. Anyways, super glue stings a bit, but it immediately coagulates the blood and stops the bleeding. And it heals up faster and with less scarring than just bandages and neosporin. Scott On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi Allen; You ever use superglue to seal a wound?? Probably at least daily in the winter when my fingers crack open. A dermatologiist put me on to it a long time ago (around 1986 or 1987). Gee. It's surprising that superglue has been around that long! Had to look it up. Here's what Wikipedia (the do-it-yourself encyclopedia) has to say about it's first uses: Superglue was in veterinary use for mending bone, hide, and tortoise shell by at least the early 1970s. The inventor of cyanoacrylates, Harry Coover, said in 1966 that a superglue spray was used in the Vietnam War to retard bleeding in wounded soldiers until they could be brought to a hospital. As it can irritate the skin, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration did not approve superglue's civilian medical use until 1998 when a variant called 2-octyl-cyanoacrylate was developed a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] chuck
I recently came across some EC hooks from my bait chucking days when I was a kid in the 80's. Some gold size 18 treble hooks, some small snelled hooks and a bunch of egg sinkers and split shot. There is no catch and release with those small treble hooks. Scott On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.netwrote: I've always had good service from them. Even from the time I was born, my daddy was a big Crappie fisherman with live minnows and those gold Eagle Claw hooks were all he'd use..Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Sow Bug
I think that is the most fun tying flies I have had since I started. I mainly tie for myself, but I have always volunteered for tying demos for local Trout Unlimited stuff like at our booth at local sporting shows, or like the annual kids heritage fishing day where they want a few of us to teach kids about fly fishing and fly tying. The Sowbug was a new experience for me though and I can't wait until next year. Scott On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Buck, As I have said many times, if it were not for you people coming and tying, we would not have a show. My thanks to you all. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [VFB] Washington
Depends on what species you are after. There is just about everything nearby. Salt water stripers on the Chesapeake Bay, Shad and smallmouth in the Potomac, for trout the Gunpowder is about 45 minutes north or for Brook trout, the Shenandoah National Park is about 45 minutes west of DC. Lots of good stuff to cover just about anybody's taste. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [VFB] Pres. Obama Now Wants to Ban Sports Fishin g, Make Recreational Fishing a Crime – Update: Glenn Beck Video on Gov’t’s US Water Grab Efforts « Frugal Café B log Zone
The ESPN article is THE source for all this misinformation and was written by an angry lobbyist who didn't get to buy their way with the White House. All of the other articles circulating around the internet revolve around this one angry, bitter, guy and honestly I can't see why ESPN doesn't have the journalistic integrity to take it down. Then again, I don't think of ESPN as a serious source for journalism. Having said that, the author doesn't produce any FACTS to back up his assertions and would probably like it better if you don't read the official paper for yourself. If you are a fisherman and a conservationist, this was a huge win for us. It is the commercial fishermen, who this person was lobbying for, that are no longer going to be able to vacuum up and over fish our coastlines. Ironically enough it will be the Coast Guard that will be tasked with the enforcement of this. I left this list before over such nonsense being posted to the list. I don't appreciate it, and there are plenty of other places on the internet where such things are more appropriate to discuss these topics. I think lists like like have an intrinsic value that is damaged when trolls come in and disrupt things for their own amusement. Scott On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Jeff Frye bighawk...@yahoo.com wrote: ESPN Outdoors really framed this thing to get a rise out of sportsmen. I don't think anybody is in the tank with the greenies enough to ban fishing. That said, we can be more civil in our responses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Re: WOW!
Don, It is 38 pages long, so it is too much to summarize here, but basically if you are a fisherman, or duck hunter for that matter, and live within 100 miles of a coastline, you should be lighting the cigars, popping the champagne, and slapping each other on the backs because for the first time since Teddy Roosevelt the government is siding with hunters and fisherman instead of lobbyist backed corporations. http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/documents/09_17_09_Interim_Report_of_Task_Force_FINAL2.pdf On Mar 10, 1:41 pm, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: I agree with both you and Allen. I also want to keep politics off of the VFB- period. But i would also like to learn if this legislation will affect future casts. End of story. Nothing political. What's in it for us? If we can't fathom this issue out as flyfishers only, we need to re-think ourselves. DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Here you go Don O
Seriously dude, there isn't going to be a UN take over of our water ways. But since you are willing to buy that I have this lovely bridge for sale... Scott On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Desert Eagle j...@hdc-nm.com wrote: Please note that DOALOS, the UN agency in charge of administering LOST, claims the convention covers all ocean space, including everything on, in, under, and above the oceans. Note also the heavy use of the adjective all, as in all uses, all resources, all activities. But wait; as we shall see, the claims go even far beyond this to include global regulations that will override domestic laws covering not only coastal waters and shorelines, but also human activities in rivers and inland waterways, and land-based activities that may be claimed — no matter how far-fetched — to be harming the marine environment. http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/801 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Pres. Obama Now Wants to Ban Sports Fishin g, Make Recreational Fishing a Crime - Update: Glenn Beck Vi deo on Gov't's US Water Grab Efforts « Frugal Café Blog Zo ne
Who starts this stuff? Rubes. Just imagine that this country has so many other things that need to be fixed and the White House stops everything to outlaw fishing. It is patently absurd. I have heard more convincing stories of Big Foot sightings and alien abductions. My apologies to Big Foot and those who were harmed by the little green men. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Bill wsparr...@cox.net wrote: Everyone that takes office is said to be trying to ban fishing and it never seems to happen. Who starts this stuff and when the time ever comes that the Whitehouse would ever try to close down a multi billion dollar income i think they wouldn't need us to put a stop to it. The guys with the big bucks will do it for us don't you think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First fish of the year
Way to go Tony! Now if only that will hold out for us at Sowbug. Scott On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: After over five months of high water and cold weather the river was finally down. I had some things to do today and I had noted this morning that the dock was a lot lower than it gad been in months. We left the house about noon to get done what we had to do before I went to my monthly tying session. We got home about 5 PM and saw that the river was lower than I had seen it in months. The temperature was almost 60 so I grabbed a rod, tied on a Chili Pepper and went to the dock. It looked like one unit running. I cast a while with the CP and no hits. Tied on a small bead head midge, still nothing. Then tried a Zebra Midge and still nothing. The sun was going down fast and it was getting cool. I noted that there was a big midge hatch coming on and the trout started rising but too far below the dock to reach them. Then I saw a good riser in casting reach. I passed the Zebra Midge over the rise several time with no takes. Now it was getting cold so I decided on one more cast. I changed over to a red body soft hackle, passed it over the rise and then decided to make one more cast. The cast was good and the drift was right over the rise. A take and a good one. I landed the 15' brown and released it. Now I was really getting cold but the trout were rising in earnest but I had to quit. It was good to get a nice Brown the first time to wet a line in over 5 months. Not bad for about 30 minuets of fishing. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Need a source for pine squirrel strips
Thank you for the link. this was very timely for me. I wanted to buy a red fox squirrel skin just last night. My search came up with a few different suppliers who wanted $35+ for just one tanned hide! Scott On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:52 PM, The Smiths aflyt...@comcast.net wrote: www.flytyingfurs.com has them for $3.50 each. Gary S. - Original Message - *From:* Wes Wada wada@gmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 01, 2010 11:28 PM *Subject:* [VFB] Need a source for pine squirrel strips Hi FlyGuys and FlyGals, We've had three brilliant, springlike days in a row, here in central Oregon. All signs point to an early spring and early bug hatches. Much preferred over last year, when it warmed very late and turned wintery early. It felt like our whole fishing season got compressed to July. Hope weather goes better for you. I need a source for inexpensive, quality pine squirrel strips, preferably on hide. There are roughly 15-19 cut pine squirrel strips per hide. The longest strip might be six inches long, the shortest maybe 4.5. I ordered two half skins from Feathercraft, but the order came to $21.85 including shipping. I can order full skins distributed by Wapsi through the local flyshop, but cost unknown at the moment, and probably a bit pricey. The local Wholesale Sports has some closeout Wapsi stripped full skins, but they are all a dark brown. But at $9.99 a full skin, seems reasonable. That's the price range I have found so far. Does anyone know of a quality source for DYED pine squirrel strips on hide? At a reasonable cost? Linesend.com does carry natural pine squirrel hides at $4.95, but they are not stripped and not dyed. Thanks for any info! Wes Wada Bend, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Chris Helm bought out the remaining stock of Gudebrod thread, but there are not many colors and sizes left. Orvis' thread doesn't have the complete line up of colors in every size. I had used Orvis thread before I knew much about fly tying, in fact it was my first thread I started with. It was Tony that introduced me to Gudebrod just as they shut things down. Recently I have subjected Tony to much whining and complaining about finding a suitable substitute. I think I have found a suitable replacement in Eurothreads marketed by Hook and Hackle. The orange isn't as bright, but it is just as thin and lays just as flat as my dwindling supply of Gudebrod. And I can get it in 3/0 all the way to 12/0. Scott On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How to join
Well at least you are not a Nigerian prince with a secret bank account who wants to make me fabulously wealthy if I help you move your money. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote: Well, somebody slipped w/ the “honest to goodness fly tier” requirement when they added me thenJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How to join
DonO, It does depend on how it is set up. In this case, anybody can sign up for the VFB but their messages to the group go into a que that JimmyD moderates until he confirms you are an honest to goodness fly tier. In my case when I recently signed back up he contacted me to let me know that my emails would go through without moderation. Scott On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Nev., My eldest sister has a family Googlegroup, and I couldn't sign up until the 'Queen Bee' approved my application. This was to keep out the 'riff-raff and spammers', but she didn't realize that when she let me in, she let Buggs in too. Fooled her. Is it different now? DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Vises
Nick, I bought the extension arm as soon as they were made available in the U.S. In fact I think I got a prototype machined from aluminum where yours looks like molded delrin. The extension made it a much improved vise in my opinion. I can't find the link anymore, but I recently came across a Canadian fly shop online that claimed the manufacturer of the Danvise was retiring and not going to make them any more. I am not trying to start rumors, but I wish I could find that web page again for proof. I know they are quite popular in Europe. I have seen them come in just about every color and all the accessories come by default. I have also seen all aluminum versions, and all of them had the extension arm, not the funny little thing we get by default here. All I see for sale in the States are the basic black delrin with clamp and no extension arm. Regards, Scott Bearden On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: The one thing I still like about the Danvise is the shape of it. With an extension arm for the jaws, it's not far from a Barracuda. The kind of profile I feel comfortable with on a rotation vise. (Attaching picture I took for a friend... a little bit of dust on one of them. LOL) /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- *Från:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *För *Martin Westbeek *Skickat:* den 10 februari 2010 23:43 *Till:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Ämne:* Re: [VFB] Vises Hi Bob, What Mike said - try before you buy. That's what I did before I bought my new vise 10 years or so ago. But then, if you have a Danvise and like it, why change? I think that the Danvise is an outstanding vise, especially if you look at the price tag. IMO the Danvise is better than many higher priced all-metal vises, and I tried a lot of them. Did not like many of them, for a variety of reasons, and hated some with a passion - the Renzetti Travel or Anvil Apex for instance. The only ones I would prefer over a Danvise because they are really very much better would be a Barracuda (Junior) or a Peak, and my present one of course - the LAW bench vise. This is a matter of personal preference though. :-) Mart - Original Message - *From:* Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:30 PM *Subject:* [VFB] Vises I have a general question about vises. Whats the differences between the lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models? I am thinking of upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different. Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Vises
Bob, No, it isn't necessary. I will say that ignorance is bliss, and if it were not invented I would still be happily using what came with the Danvise. Having said that, I think it is a very nice addition, particularly for flies that have a lot of material that extends behind the hook. It you mostly tie small trout flies and midges then you probably won't notice the difference. Scott On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.comwrote: Scott, Is the extension arm necessary? I dont have it on mine, but of course I have been tying that much on it til recently. Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Vises
My bad. I was blissfully unaware... On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: Easy on that ignorance is bliss comment. It is no longer politically correct. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Midge cementing tips...
Nick, I discovered something similar a few years ago when I took up making bamboo rods. It took me a while to settle on a couple of brushes that I like. When doing delicate three turn intermediate wraps, a single drop from a dubbing needle simply flooded the area all around the thread and onto the rod, and a chisel tip brush was just as sloppy. I found the same problem with tying flies in sizes 20 and smaller. I went to an artist supply store and found fine tipped sable brushes that have just a few hairs in them. They are used to make the finest lines in painting and are perfect for wicking a fine amount of varnish or lacquer to the head of a fly. I use a size 16/0 brush, but I couldn't find them online. I had to go to an artist supply store. Regards, Scott Bearden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio DVD
I will second this recommendation. I like them so much that when I lost one of the two DVDs for a while, I panicked and ordered another from him. Now I have an extra. Scott On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: I have and really like Tony's DVDs. They are awesome, Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Head Magnifiers
I have one of the Harbor Freight visors. It is okay and gets the job done. The lights are not even worth putting the batteries in them, but plenty of visors don't even come with lights, so I don't worry about it. Scott On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Mike, For me they are the only thing. I read in the other posts that they are not for some. I have several types and the Opti Visor is the best for me. I just can't tie with a Magnifier Light, I wear bifocal glasses and a 5X lens in the visor. I can look through my bifocals at things on the bench and they are clear and then look at the fly in the vise and it is clear without adjusting the visor. The only thing I find when tying at shows is looking up at the person I am talking to.. I do automatically raise the visor to look at that person. I go almost all day with the visor on my head. This would bother some people and not others, maybe I just have a hard head. The Mag Eyes would be second choice they are light in weight but I still prefer the Opti Visor. I have two pair the 5X for tying and 7X for rod wrapping. The cheap ones with lights from Harbor Freight are just OK but not as good as the better ones. They are usually on sale for less than 5.00 You will have to decide, this is what works best for me. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] MATERIAL DATA BASE
Is this what you are looking for? http://www.flytyingforum.com/materials On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Joseph Fusco, Sr. jfusc...@gmail.comwrote: *I seem to remember that we had a thread on the list a couple of years ago where we were discussing pattern data bases. One of the available freeware programs that we discussed was a data base that would suggest patterns you could tie with materials that you listed. I have a student in my current tying class who would be interested in such a program. Does anyone out there have a link to a program such as this?* * -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Then Now -Suggestion response
Personally I like the simplicity of the VFB list as it exists now. I say that as I also frequent half a dozen forums every day and it gets hard to keep up with. Running a forum takes money, time and resources, and those three things are why a lot of web sites go the way of the Dodo. Just look at the now defunct VFB web site and forum. Being a web and database developer, I have stood up several forums and have seen the problems from both sides of the fence. My TU chapter had gone through two different forum platforms that were not backwards compatible. All data was lost each change. We finally had to move servers and for practical purposes had to upgrade to yet another forum software once again. That shook loose a lot of frequent forum members, and now it barely has a pulse. In fact, since I stood up that forum, the software had gone through a major version upgrade and discontinued all support for the legacy version. I had to jump through hoops and navigate through all the code to find what I needed to move all the old posts and user accounts intact. Anything short of that would have resulted in abandonment of the whole thing. In this case, I don't think changing the VFB list to a forum would constitute a change of keeping with the times. If that were the case, the television would have killed the radio, and the Internet killed both. As long as email is a viable tool for communication, people will keep using it. The Google Groups is free. It is fairly easy to maintain. And most importantly it works. There are many excellent and high volume fly tying forums already in existence. I frequent Flytyingforum.com and its sister forums daily and quite frankly I think it would be hard to compete with that. Scott Bearden On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.cawrote: Hi Tony: This was David Colyn's response to my original Then Now Well said Nev. Have any solution to the well defined problem?? I sure dont. .and so I anwered him by saying what I believe and that is that forums (or bulletin boards if you like the word better) seem to have greater following than e-mail lists. I suggested TRYING forum style. I expected resistance, because people resist change because it is not comfortable. I doubt that many VFB members have *really* looked at the forum pages that I listed previously. If you go to this forum http://forum.flybc.ca/ you will come to a page of subjects or topics - In this case, fly tying is fourth from the top. If one clicks on that, your come to a page with a huge variety of more specific topics and just choose what takes your interest. http://forum.flybc.ca/index.php?showforum=13 another good example can be found below ** *http://speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=38433* now scroll down just a little and you will com to a black screen entitled SPTV (Spey Pages TV) click on the arrow in the middle of the screen, turn on your speakers and watch a *superb video* on wader safety from Simms. The point I am trying (not very successfully) to make is that these modern forums are what today's younger anglers look for because the are far more versatile than an e-mail list and can show videos and photos with no problem. Tony, you and I are friends athough we have never met in person. I have a great deal of respect for you and for some of the other long time members. However, to quote your words.. Like you, I just don't think a forum will be a good thing. I for one just can't handle it. I believe that you could handle a forum if you wanted to, but the key is wanting to. I like the e-mail list format but it is outdated and not as versatile as other methods. The forum is not as intimate as an e-mail list. Perhaps Google Wave or something like it will eventually replace e-mail. Just my 2 cent worth. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Shipping flies
I have never mailed flies out before and I am about to send out a few to a family member in Oklahoma who wants to make a shadow box of some of my flies. It occurred to me that I needed to protect them in transit and so I found an old cheap fly box that I can live without. If this gets to be a habit I don't want to buy cheap fly boxes. For those of you that mail out dry flies routinely, what do you use that is cheap and disposable to protect them in transit? Thanks, Scott Bearden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Something different , not quite off topic
I have been a member of this list off-and-on for a few years. Basically, I have been a long time lurker. I started fly fishing when I was 9 years old, which was around the same time that Trout Bum came out. I remember it on the shelf when I saved up for my first good fly rod. My first actual fly rod was given to me by an elderly gentleman who was the husband of the lady who styled my step-mother's hair. He had not been out fishing in years and so my father and I invited him for a day out with us. I think most of his fishing buddies had long since passed and so he was thrilled just to get out and go fishing with us. When we pulled up to his driveway to drop him off, he asked us to wait a few minutes as he opened his garage and proceeded to give me every piece of tackle he owned. He was very touched that we took him out, but he knew he didn't have many more days like that left. In the bundle of rods he gave me, there was a white fiberglass fly rod. I had read about fly rods, and I took an interest to this rod right away. Growing up in the Bay Area in California I was able to get out to the Golden Gate Casting Club every weekend and got lots of advice and help. Fast forward a few years and I joined the Marines and put my tackle away for a few years. There wasn't much time to fish. When my first wife split, she cleaned me out financially and I had to sell everything that wasn't nailed down. That included all my fly fishing stuff. A few years later I remarried and during an illness that had me hospitalized and then on bed rest at home, I started reading every fly fishing magazine and web site that I could find. I decided that this time I would tie my own flies and make my own rods. A couple of years after that I came across a book on bamboo rod making and joined the Rodmakers list, where I met Tony Spezio. He has been a good friend and mentor to me. I am a web and database developer by day and tie flies and make bamboo rods in the evenings and on weekends. Scott Bearden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] emails
I think people are just busy. It would be a rare circumstance that Google had such a problem. Not impossible, but rare. Scott On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 2:04 PM, The Smiths aflyt...@comcast.net wrote: Is the site still working? have not gotten any mail in two days Gary S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Join Please
Made it to Virginia. Scott On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.netwrote: I'm attempting a email address change PeggyB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] HAPPY NEW YEAR
2009 Good riddance. We could all use a fresh start. Here is hoping the very best for everyone! Scott Bearden On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Let us hope the New Year will be better for all of us. It has been a good year and a not so good year for some of us bet we can all hope for a better one. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
