[videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread jonny goldstein
More ways to generate $$ from vlogging:

Vlogging can help you get you paid more in your day jobif you vlog
about stuff you become more of a recognized expert about that stuff if
you do decent work. This can help you get a better paying gig, or get
better paid at your current gig.

Vlogging can help you get a new job-for example, I'm managing a
program where we're teaching kids to vlog. Wouldn't have happened if I
wasn't vlogging.

Vlogging is a tremendous social networking tool. Social networking is
important for getting work.

Use vlogging to promote your own businesse.g. if you're a rock
musician, promote your gigs, if you're a ceramicist, show footage of
yourself working in the studio. 




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wrote:

 A valid exercise. Here is an off the top of my head first draft at it.
 I'll start by making two assumptions.
 
 Assumption #1:  No advertising is the Provocative Operation.
 
 Assumption #2: The Goal of Revenue is to offset costs; provide for
you (and
 your employee's, if any) living expenses; and increase your overall
quality
 of life/time. This may or may not also include shareholder value
depending
 on the scale of the endeavor.
 
 We therefore have at least 5 obvious choices exposed:
 
 (1) Donation,
 (2) Subscription/Purchase,
 (3) Sponsorship,
 (4) Benefactor, and
 (5) no revenue model (creation for creation's sake).
 
 Donation: relies on the random good will of your viewership. If
donations do
 not reach revenue goals in assumption #2, you will need to advertise
 yourself to your viewership (think public radio/television) to keep
your PL
 (Profit and Loss) in check.
 
 Subscription/Purchase: In order to view content viewer must pay a
fee. This
 generally reduces your audience, especially in the Internet space where
 price is constantly being pushed to zero. As in donation above, if
PL goals
 are not reached you will again be looking to advertise yourself to your
 visitors in hopes of converting them to paying viewers.
 
 Sponsorship: A cousin of advertising, more closely tied with
branding. This
 may include a logo or bug, or perhaps a brought to you buy, or This
 program made possible by types of messages.
 
 Benefactor: Find yourself a Sugar Daddy that loves what you do, and
they pay
 you for it. Think de'Medici.
 
 No Revenue: decide that real musicians have day jobs and leave it
at that.
 
 
 
 On 1/5/06, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It seems to me that we are already stuck in a rut in terms of usage of
  this medium.
  How come we must jump right into advertising? I keep seeing *ads
*being
  mentioned in terms of generating revenue, and it is said in such a
way as to
  lead me to believe that it is the only viable method for
generating revenue.
  Why?
 
  Let's do a little excercise here with all of you creative types.
 
  There is a concept called *Po* that I have read about. *Po* is a
creative
  tool used for lateral thinking, or thinking outside the box.
 
  From WIkipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_thinking: A
notation
  used in Lateral thinking, is *Po*. This stands for *Provocative
operation*and is used to propose an idea which may not necessarily be
a solution or a
  'good' idea in itself, but moves thinking forward to a new place
where new
  ideas may be produced.
 
  So let's try it with this group:
 
 
  *Goal: *How can videoblogs generate revenue for vloggers?
 
  *Po: *Advertising does not exist.
 
  *Po: *Let's ban advertising on vlogs.
 
  I would like to look at this issue without that crutch of the 80
years of
  broadcast media our understanding is founded on. If so much is
different
  with this medium, then why and the hell are we focused on the same
old same
  old for generating revenue. Why are we letting the old skool media
and the
  corporate media, the institutions we are going to challenge, lock
us into
  their method of generating revenue?
 
  Later,
  Ron
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Jan 5, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Ted Tagami wrote:
 
  a very timely quote. Thank you Matt!
 
  On 1/5/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
This quote is in the January issue of Wired on page 73...
  
   iPod video has been a ding moment across media.  It forces
   advertisers to make commercials compelling enough that people don't
   throw out their iPods and pick up a book.  Sponsors also need to add
   their commercials to the vlogs I'm watching now.  Ad agencies are
   whining about measurement.  Well, wake up, fools!  People are
watching
   TV online and on their iPods and you're not there with them.
  
   Here is where Wired got that quote...
   http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2005/11/06/iads/
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread robert a/k/a r
You know how when you wake up in the morning and as you're opening your 
eyes you do that long stretch you feel down deep from your shoulders to 
your calves, and you feel s good.

Well, that feeling is the same one I get when making video. Anything 
else is just more gravy. If there is additional comp then that's cool, 
but the really good feeling comes from making a piece.

Po: When you wake up tomorrow morning and do the stretch decide for 
yourself if it feels good because of what you made yesterday or because 
you got paid. Revenue doesn't have to be expressed in dollars, though 
when it is it's because your audience is collaborating with you 
remotely, it's a proxy for their in-person applause.

Just an opinion from a guy who likes moving images, do what you want 
with it.

BTW, I'm all for figuring out how to get dollars into the hands of 
vloggers and have a few ideas how to do so, but I don't think it's the 
dollars that motivate us to create. Am I wrong?

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On Jan 6, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Ron Watson wrote:

  It seems to me that we are already stuck in a rut in terms of usage 
 of this medium.



 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: The All New UKVideobloggers Group

2006-01-06 Thread Paul Knight
You are more than welcome.

paul

On 6 Jan 2006, at 04:12, Ms. Kitka wrote:

I might like to join just to meet the vloggers in Scotland since I
 tend to visit there quite often.

 Kitka


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 > Hi,
 > 
 > CALLING ALL BRITISH, ENGLISH, SCOTTISH, WELSH OR IRISH VLOGGERS.
 > 
 > My name is Paul Knight, I am setting up a new video bloggers group at 
 > yahoo called UKVideobloggers, it's free to join.  This is going to be
 > the fastest growing group I think in the new year, there are so many
 > British Video Bloggers out there, but how many of us can say we know 
 > more than 5?  It's fun being part of the Videoblogging, but realise
 > that a lot of the problems the American are now facing won't actually 
 > hit us until about a year or so.  We will start having our own Video 
 > conferences at a time that suits us, and we will not only concentrate
 > on the technical aspects of this hobby but more on the creative side.  
 > I will not be running it, I have only set it up.  Let the discussions
 > commence.
 > 
 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UKVideobloggers/
 > 
 > Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vlog
 > 
 > http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com
 > 
 > It's worth a laugh and work friendly.
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[videoblogging] quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements

2006-01-06 Thread duncan



so the thought that has been keeping me up recently is about tagging sections of video. I've been playing with the korsakov system recently URL: http://www.korsakow.com/ksy/index.html
 developed by Florian Thalhofer URL: http://www.thalhofer.com/ for building non-linear films and he talks about the idea of SNEs (smallest narrative elements), now these can be stills, sections of film, audio, basically the minimum amount of something that contributes to the narrative. 
so how does this relate to vlogging? well.. is there a way to tag sections of a video, mefeedia had a quoting system (has that disappeared Peter?), how would you add tags to this? or maybe there is a better way.. i don;t know.. but i like the idea of being able to subscribe to a series of tags in 
del.icio.us (or equivalent), say 'rain' and 'beauty', and then getting to watch a generative film about beauty and rain. the reason i think tagging sections is great is that the film that gets compiled is continous, a fireant edit so to speak, without the credits inbetween each clip, and without the associated narrative of the film the section came from. does this make sense? i guess i'm asking for both technical and theoretical input or ideas here.. there's definitely more to this idea than i can think of !
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[videoblogging] call for works

2006-01-06 Thread Adrian Miles
hi all

this is an urgent call for video documentary works (including vlogs) 
for an Australian doco. festival Real Life on Film.

The requirements are:

1. needs to be online.

2. it must relate to commonwealth as a theme, which means:
i. you are in a commonwealth nation (for those who don't know, this 
is former British Empire)
ii. the work is about a commonwealth nation
iii. or you can demonstrate relevance.

3. this is for individual works as well as vlogs.

Please note, I'm just forwarding this for someone else, and Richard 
Moore, director of the festival, will be making all final curatorial 
decisions.

If you think you have work that meets this criteria please get in 
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[videoblogging] Re: quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements

2006-01-06 Thread Enric
Well, tagging segments of video that can next be linked, aggregated
and re-connected, etc. is a project I've been conceptualizing, drawing
some prototypes and starting to work on (initially in Flash.)  I
consider this externalized editing (of the basic, traditional straight
cut edit) that is immediate and dynamic.

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 so the thought that has been keeping me up recently is about tagging
 sections of video. I've been playing with the korsakov system
recently URL:
 http://www.korsakow.com/ksy/index.html developed by Florian
Thalhofer URL:
 http://www.thalhofer.com/ for building non-linear films and he
talks about
 the idea of SNEs (smallest narrative elements), now these can be stills,
 sections of film, audio, basically the minimum amount of something that
 contributes to the narrative.
 
 so how does this relate to vlogging? well.. is there a way to tag
sections
 of a video, mefeedia had a quoting system (has that disappeared
Peter?), how
 would you add tags to this? or maybe there is a better way.. i don;t
know..
 but i like the idea of being able to subscribe to a series of tags in
 del.icio.us (or equivalent), say 'rain' and 'beauty', and then
getting to
 watch a generative film about beauty and rain. the reason i think
tagging
 sections is great is that the  film that gets compiled is continous, a
 fireant edit so to speak, without the credits inbetween each clip, and
 without the associated narrative of the film the section came from. does
 this make sense? i guess i'm asking for both technical and
theoretical input
 or ideas here.. there's definitely more to this idea than i can
think of !
 
 be well
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements

2006-01-06 Thread duncan



On 1/6/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Well, tagging segments of video that can next be linked, aggregated
and re-connected, etc. is a project I've been conceptualizing, drawing
some prototypes and starting to work on (initially in Flash.) sounds good, and great to know people are looking at these possibilities.. i built a similar system in director a few years ago.. the main problem is the aggregation of online material. it was fine for marking material that i imported in manually, but how do we work with material in peoples feeds/blogs? i think peter was heading in the right direction with his quoting system.. (any ideas how that worked? peter is away at the moment).. somehow it needs to be able to tag stuff and maybe (just maybe) let people download only the tagged segment? 
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[videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Nerissa \(TheVideoQueen\)



   Message: 17   Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 01:04:35 -0500  From: Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thinking outside the box...  So let's try it with this group: Goal: How can videoblogs generate revenue for vloggers? Po: Advertising does not exist. Po: Let's ban advertising on vlogs.  I would like to look at this issue without that crutch of the 80  years of broadcast media our understanding is founded on. If so much  is different with this medium, then why and the hell are we focused  on the same old same old for generating revenue. Why are we
 letting  the old skool media and the corporate media, the institutions we are  going to challenge, lock us into their method of generating revenue?  Later, Ron  hi ron,  goodquestion. donations don't work--ask anyone in this group with a donation button on their site. subscription feesdon't work -- unless they are tiny tiny tiny($3/month), and you target a large niche willing to pay.the road is paved by people entertaining usfreely. most internet newbies will expect even more entertainment and education for free. to forgo all ads and spons means you can try selling other items that are of value to supplement your free materials butis there a downside to that?someleading videobloggerscall that
 "referral" or "affiliate"money and are idealistically opposed to even doing that. so I look forward to hearing more options.nerissaNerissa Odenhttp://www.TheVideoQueen.com/blog.htmlhttp://www.FreeVideoCoding.comhttp://www.FreeMediaGuide.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/http://www.movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/videowomen/http://www.Nebelungs.blogspot.com
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[videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
Working out ways to making videoblogging pay, is like working out a 
way to make sitting at home playing dominos pay.*

It's the same with any amateur creative endeavour, in a short period 
of time, new people end up with an inflated sense of self worth. In 
our community, its because of a false equation that we are the same 
as big media. i.e. they make content, they make money; I make 
content, so I should make money.

Perhaps the equation should be: I make content, I don't make money; 
they make content, so they shouldn't make any either.

With more and more free content coming out by the day, perhaps 
instead of asking how to make money, people should either go and work 
for a big media content provider (while they still exist), or have a 
big long rational think about why they're videoblogging in the first 
place, and ask the question: what's so special about me that someone 
would want to pay me money?

Regards,
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[videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
Having said that, if there's an investor out there willing to give me 
large wads of cash, no questions asked, then absolutely, I'm all 
ears. Drop me an email.

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[videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest
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 Perhaps the equation should be: I make content, I don't make money; 
 they make content, so they shouldn't make any either.

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner, Johnny!

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Re: [videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Vincent Njoroge Ndonye



I like this question because there is gets to the variety of vlogs out there. Not all of them are or will be quirky, artisitic, avenues of personal _expression_, which I think may be harder (not impossible) to monetize or recoup the costs of putting together. Other themes like music, entertainment, or news commentary may be able to sell subscriptions of related products: cds, books, etc.
regards,vincent.njoroge.ndonyeOn 1/6/06, Richard Bennett-Forrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Working out ways to making videoblogging pay, is like working out a 
way to make sitting at home playing dominos pay.*

It's the same with any amateur creative endeavour, in a short period 
of time, new people end up with an inflated sense of self worth. In 
our community, its because of a false equation that we are the same 
as big media. i.e. they make content, they make money; I make 
content, so I should make money.

Perhaps the equation should be: I make content, I don't make money; 
they make content, so they shouldn't make any either.

With more and more free content coming out by the day, perhaps 
instead of asking how to make money, people should either go and work 
for a big media content provider (while they still exist), or have a 
big long rational think about why they're videoblogging in the first 
place, and ask the question: what's so special about me that someone 
would want to pay me money?

Regards,
 Richard


* Somewhere in the world, there are a dozen or so domino players 
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Re: [videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Ron Watson


There we go, RIchard!Po: Video Blogging should not make money. What is the byproduct of that?Your post gets to some valid points that immediately make me feel good about our prospects in maintaining control over our media and the ability to distribute it.The idea that we can race them to the bottom, in terms of making money off of media is interesting to me. If there is no money in media then there is no sense in controlling it, is there? Of course that would mean there would have to be some kind of disincentive to spending on media. Rest assured that I will be trying to wrap my head around that.of money and the origin of this thread:My original post was not intended to say that we should all be making money off of vlogging. In fact, I strenuously disagree with that statement. My point was that the only options available are advertisement and sponsorship, and that those are what has led us to this point in media; where the customers of the media, corporations, use the media to pull the wool over an unsuspecting public's eyes. Why do we only allow these options for funding to be reasonable. If we move to a sponsorship/advertising economic model, we will fall right into that system. They will hold the coin purse which will give them control over the barriers for entry, which will leave us in exactly the same place we started. rambling... sorry... but that is the point of this, isn't it?ronOn Jan 6, 2006, at 8:13 AM, Richard Bennett-Forrest wrote:  Working out ways to making videoblogging pay, is like working out a  way to make sitting at home playing dominos pay.*  It's the same with any amateur creative endeavour, in a short period  of time, new people end up with an inflated sense of self worth. In  our community, its because of a false equation that "we" are the same  as big media. i.e. they make content, they make money; I make  content, so I should make money.  Perhaps the equation should be: I make content, I don't make money;  they make content, so they shouldn't make any either.  With more and more free content coming out by the day, perhaps  instead of asking how to make money, people should either go and work  for a big media content provider (while they still exist), or have a  big long rational think about why they're videoblogging in the first  place, and ask the question: what's so special about me that someone  would want to pay me money?  Regards,   Richard   * Somewhere in the world, there are a dozen or so domino players  making less than enough to live off. I'd prefer to get a real job.   SPONSORED LINKS  Individual  Fireant  Use  Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements

2006-01-06 Thread Devlon



The quoting at Mefeedia was a bit clunky. It was too slow to scan to the quoted pieces.On 1/6/06, duncan 
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On 1/6/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, tagging segments of video that can next be linked, aggregated
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[videoblogging] Re: Pay Per View Video Coming From Google

2006-01-06 Thread Bill Streeter
Isn't that pretty much a Mac user anymore?

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 Are there NeXTsteppers here?
 
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  Michael Sullivan wrote:
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[videoblogging] Re: WSJ: Tiered Internet = added fees for video?

2006-01-06 Thread Bill Streeter
Yup, this is so stupid. It's just like Lessig said. 

I hate to break it to these guys but your networks ain't worth shit 
without these services. They should be trying to figure out how to 
leverage that value rather than figure out how to restrict access to 
them. MORONS! MORONS! I TELL YA!!

Wouldn't it be nice if we had someone like FDR in office so he could 
put the communications utilities in their place and regulate them 
for what they are UTILITIES!!

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Digital Buddha 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tomorrow's Wall Street Journal is reporting that phone companies 
(BellSouth
 and ATT among others) are seeking to charge Google, Vonage, 
Movielink and
 others for priority broadband delivery.
 
 
 The size and structure of the fee systems remain to be worked 
out, and the
 regulatory implications aren't clear. But already, the phone 
companies are
 meeting heavy resistance from companies that say making them pay 
for
 priority delivery of their content amounts to holding them ransom, 
thus
 hurting competition and, ultimately, the consumer., the WSJ 
reports.
 
 
 The article quotes Commissioner Michael Copps of the FCC as saying 
that We
 need a watchful eye to ensure that network providers do not become 
Internet
 gatekeepers, with the ability to dictate who can use the Internet 
and for
 what purposes.
 
 
 This does not bode well for independent producers of higher 
bandwidth
 content like us Videobloggers if phone and cable companies are 
able to do
 this. Keep your eyes on this as it develops...
 
 
 Article can be found here (subscription required):
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[videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Ms. Kitka
Ron is right.  Some videobloggers NEED to make money.  I, for example,
had three hours of sleep last night and was woken up by a fire alarm
at 4am (30 minutes after I lay down to sleep).  I can barely open my
eyes yet I'm at work anyways... why?  Because I need the money to live
on and I don't get paid for the full time job I have making Kitkast.

Some could argue that I don't NEED to make a videoblog, but if I ever
had to give it up I would be heartwrenched.  I tried the donation
button thing and it worked for one donation... then PayPal shut down
my account because they accused me of selling sexual services (for
anyone who watches my show, you should know how VERY wrong they are...
unfortunately, outside of working full time by day as a secretary and
full time by night on my show, I don't have much time to argue with
PayPal in between!.

The debate 'to be paid or not to be paid' is only here because we are
in limbo... waiting for the mainstream to fully integrate the system
vloggers and bloggers have set in motion.  Until the integration is
complete, we will continue to struggle and to wonder what the outcome
will be... and something tells me it will involve something similar to
TiVo but available to the whole world (TiVo's not available up here in
Canada).

All I know is that the future is digital... our walls will be made of
hard drives.

Kitka

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[videoblogging] re: New Hosting Site...

2006-01-06 Thread Nerissa \(TheVideoQueen\)



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Re: [videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Frank Carver
Friday, January 6, 2006, 1:49:18 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
 If there is no money in
 media then there is no sense in controlling it, is there?

But if there's no money in the media itself, then that leaves the
field wide open for people and organizations willing to spend money to
achieve other aims: politics, evangelism, propaganda and advertising.

Have any of us got the clout to go up against any of _those_ bankrolls?

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[videoblogging] Limegreen Tangerine Kevin Buckstiegel LimeBlog Blog

2006-01-06 Thread Markus Sandy
Kevin has posted something truly wonderful. 

A great demonstration of the power of video and blogging.

http://www.lgt2.com/limeblogbeta/2006/01/05/long-lost-friend/


 
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Re: [videoblogging] WSJ: Tiered Internet = added fees for video?

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan



his does not bode well for independent producers of higher bandwidth
content like us Videobloggers if phone and cable companies are able to
do this. Keep your eyes on this as it develops...would again raise the use of P2P.On 1/6/06, Digital Buddha 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Tomorrow's Wall Street
Journal is reporting that phone companies (BellSouth and ATT among
others) are seeking to charge Google, Vonage, Movielink and others for
priority broadband delivery. 


The size and structure of the fee systems remain to be worked out, and
the regulatory implications aren't clear. But already, the phone
companies are meeting heavy resistance from companies that say making
them pay for priority delivery of their content amounts to holding them
ransom, thus hurting competition and, ultimately, the consumer., the WSJ reports.


The article quotes Commissioner Michael Copps of the
FCC as saying that We need a watchful eye to ensure that network providers do not become
Internet gatekeepers, with the ability to dictate who can use the
Internet and for what purposes.


This does not bode well for independent producers of higher bandwidth
content like us Videobloggers if phone and cable companies are able to
do this. Keep your eyes on this as it develops...


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[videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Bill Streeter
I call bullshit, on this. Videoblogging is communication. 
Communication has emensly more value than playing dominos. Anything 
that has value to *anyone* can be monitized. Anyone who has an 
audiance has value to offer someone else who wants to talk to that 
audiance. 

To say that no one should or could make money off video blogging is 
like saying that no one can or should make money off of blogging, but 
that's already being done so there goes that theory. 

There hasn't been a lack of free content in the world for a very long 
time. We've been at critical mass in this reguard for quite a while. 
So I have no idea what your point is about increasing amount of free 
content. Theres already more than any one person can ever hope to view.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
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 Working out ways to making videoblogging pay, is like working out a 
 way to make sitting at home playing dominos pay.*
*SNIP*
in the first 
 place, and ask the question: what's so special about me that someone 
 would want to pay me money?
 
 Regards,
   Richard
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Nerissa (TheVideoQueen) wrote:

   donations don't work--ask anyone in this group with a donation button on 
 their site. 

I've gotten one donation. It worked quite well. It made me feel that the 
person really valued what I did, and though it wasn't a huge amount, I 
added it to the funds to get myself one of those cheapy digital video 
cameras.

So that one donation had a huge impact, maybe not financially, but 
motivationally...

Thanks!


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Re: [videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Stephanie Bryant
Why would you consider yourself in competition with those bankrolls,
anyway? Are they capable of preventing you from making media? If not,
then why do you think someone with an evangelist message will take
audience share away from you, who do not?

A friend of a friend is putting together (as soon as I can help him) a
vlog for his law firm to provide insight, advice, and news on drug
laws. Will this make him money directly? If it keeps people from
getting arrested, no. Will it provide revenue for him anyway? I don't
know, but I'm willing to bet dollars to megabytes that it will.
Certainly, I know he'll have a lot of subscribers!

--Stephanie

On 1/6/06, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But if there's no money in the media itself, then that leaves the
 field wide open for people and organizations willing to spend money to
 achieve other aims: politics, evangelism, propaganda and advertising.

 Have any of us got the clout to go up against any of _those_ bankrolls?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pay Per View Video Coming From Google

2006-01-06 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Joshua Paul wrote:
 Are there NeXTsteppers here?

I've got a NeXTStation in my basement that needs some loving...

It hasn't booted up since 1999 or so.


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[videoblogging] Re: Limegreen Tangerine Kevin Buckstiegel LimeBlog Blog

2006-01-06 Thread Ms. Kitka
Wow... that really WAS good... made me all vaklempt.  They graduated
from high school the same year as me... it could have been one of MY
friends.

Beautiful,
Kitka


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Re: [videoblogging] Why is DivX so hard?

2006-01-06 Thread Pete Prodoehl
JV wrote:
 we just released the
 new browser plugin for pc (IE, Firefox, Opera) and should have mac in
 a few days and linux a bit after that. 

This is just a personal opinion, but I tend to look down on companies 
that do releases like that. I know that Mac OS X and Linux operating 
systems have less users than Windows, but it always comes off as an 
afterthought type of insult: Windows now! Mac later, Linux ever more 
later...

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Re: [videoblogging] Why is DivX so hard?

2006-01-06 Thread Frank Carver
Friday, January 6, 2006, 3:13:49 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
 This is just a personal opinion, but I tend to look down on companies
 that do releases like that. I know that Mac OS X and Linux operating 
 systems have less users than Windows, but it always comes off as an 
 afterthought type of insult: Windows now! Mac later, Linux ever more 
 later...

But if the alternative is making all those PC users wait while the
minority versions are developed, wouldn't that be just as bad (or
worse)?

One of the open-source software mantras is release early, release
often. The idea being that the sooner you can get _anything_ in the
hands of real users, the sooner you can begin learning about how the
product is really used, what's most important, and how it can be
improved.

If it makes you any feel any happier, consider the PC users as the
guinea-pigs - testing the software so that the wrinkles have been
ironed out by the time it is made available to the Mac/Linux
cognoscenti ;)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: M4V and MOV video formats

2006-01-06 Thread Pete Prodoehl
B Yen wrote:
 On Jan 5, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Bill Streeter wrote:
 
 You need to change the server to acknowlege that m4v is a video
 format. 

 Interesting Note:
 My podcast reflects my video-blog at http://jumplive.blogspot.com,  in 
 the past when you click on a .m4v file (under OSX/Safari) you got  a 
 download of gibberish characters.  Now, it plays fine using QT  player.
 
 Does this mean Apple is steadily getting the .m4v integrated as a  
 solution?  I.e., eventually you don't have to change .m4v to .mp4?

Most likely it means that the people who run the server got around to 
adding m4v with the proper mime-type. The gibberish characters you 
mention is due to the fact that most installs of Apache (and other web 
servers I'd guess) do not know what an 'm4v' file is, so they send it as 
text/plain. Until people complain and the server admin fixes things.


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Re: [videoblogging] Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
See, Michael said it better than me.

At 10:25 -0500 6/1/06, Michael Sullivan wrote:
It is easier to make money by providing video services which may 
include a videoblog/vodcast setup. 
So, making video can make you money, but not necessarily having a videoblog.
If you are into making video... then offer your videographer services...
People need video of events like weddings, seminars, training, local 
documentaries, local business commercials etc...

Some of those can be intermixed with a vlog for the client.  Some 
would allow/want you to post to your own vlog as well

your own vlog.. this is where it gets tough.  you want to make 
money off a specific vodcast channel or however many you might have 
going.  will not likely happen  to any large extent.

ask yourself- How much do I want to make?
enough to not have to work a slave job for someone else?
if so, then you need to make a daily video with great content that 
hundreds of thousands of people want to watch daily and  do it for 
several months before you can decipher whether the following 
money-making options are viable:
  * ads
  * sponsors
  * sell merch
  * get syndicated on big  media channels and/or TiVoesque services.

yes, that sounds like rboom doesnt it?  you need a theme/template to 
even begin to think about making money because audience niches 
exist because of themes and content genres.

dontations and pay-per-view will always bring you minimum return. 
if you are ok with that, try it.


rel=payment's, a technical bloggy spec to make it easier for 
bloggers to accept payments from people, has thus far had little to 
no adoption and is an example of many knowing that the liklihood of 
getting random donations for your content is very low, at least too 
low to spend time to set it up... that could always change as this 
space evolves and more learn about the spec.

i have a few fairly unique ideas that i'm organizing in my head... 
will share in future.

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[videoblogging] Questions on Formats to Post for Vlog.

2006-01-06 Thread www.CherylShuman.com
Dear Vlogging Group,

I have a question regarding exporting formats. At the moment I have
both PC and Mac. On my Powerbook, the IMovie has a setting direct for
the Video Ipod. I've been exporting in that format as well as Windows
Media. Is there a general rule of thumb for exporting in other
formats? I'm not sure what proper protocol is. 

Also, when I export in Mp4 and .mov format from my new powerbook, it
won't play on last year's Mac. I tried to download the updated
Quicktime pro 7, but it won't download. 

I'm not sure what to do. Does this mean I should export in several
formats or ???

Also, I recently was told about blip.tv and other distribution
outlets. In the group's opinion, where is the best place to actually
post your videoblogs?

I would appreciate the feedback. Thank you in advance.

Happy New Year Everyone.

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[videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
Hi Bill,

I call bullshit, on this. Anyone who has an
audiance has value to offer someone else who wants to talk to that
audiance.

I believe the original point of this thread was to find income 
outside of advertising and also that selling your audience to a third 
party, is a moral issue. And anyway, advertising won't pay a 
videoblogger's bills.

To say that no one should or could make money off video blogging is
like saying that no one can or should make money off of blogging, but
that's already being done so there goes that theory.

Well, let's just step back for a minute, I didn't say that no one 
should or could make, so please don't put words in my mouth. I said 
that people who aren't making money, but are looking for a way to, 
should probably carefully consider their options.

Secondly, it depends what you call blogging and videoblogging, 
doesn't it? The discussion I believe was about the more traditional 
type of videblog, so personal entries in crono order on a blog. (Ooh, 
that'll get me in trouble on this list)

There hasn't been a lack of free content in the world for a very long
So I have no idea what your point is about increasing amount of free
content.

So you're saying the amount of free content won't increase?

Here's an example. Who here watches RocketBoom? How many RocketBoom 
lookalikes are there today? How many will there be in six or twelve 
months? Will RocketBoom be able to compete? Andrew and Amanda have 
staked their claim, but it won't last. In a year, just like in 
podcasting, there will be a hundred, if not a thousand RocketBooms. 
Maybe not as sexy as Andrew, but there you go. ;-)

I'm going to step out of this one now. Several opinions. Who knows 
what we'll be doing in 12 months. I'm more than happy to be proven 
wrong when my vlog is my primary source of income.

Regards,
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: M4V and MOV video formats

2006-01-06 Thread T.Whid
Does anyone know if Apple recommends an official mime type for M4V?

I'm using video/mp4, I used video/quicktime for a while but browsers
would tack on a .MOV extension when I did that.

On 1/6/06, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 B Yen wrote:
  On Jan 5, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Bill Streeter wrote:
 
  You need to change the server to acknowlege that m4v is a video
  format.

  Interesting Note:
  My podcast reflects my video-blog at http://jumplive.blogspot.com,  in
  the past when you click on a .m4v file (under OSX/Safari) you got  a
  download of gibberish characters.  Now, it plays fine using QT  player.
 
  Does this mean Apple is steadily getting the .m4v integrated as a
  solution?  I.e., eventually you don't have to change .m4v to .mp4?

 Most likely it means that the people who run the server got around to
 adding m4v with the proper mime-type. The gibberish characters you
 mention is due to the fact that most installs of Apache (and other web
 servers I'd guess) do not know what an 'm4v' file is, so they send it as
 text/plain. Until people complain and the server admin fixes things.


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Re: [videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan



its always great to give a donation.i have donated money to programmersusually because i make use of the software or feel they are providing a valuable free service. do you think they get a lot of donations? not usually i bet even Bram of BitTorrent barely got much donations and we all know how useful that technology is.
Though he is well off now!most video, even rboom video, loses value once it leaves the lot (car purchase analogy).some provide valuable info, training or stimulation. those are able to sustain value over time. 
so:the video should have a long-term valueif not a daily type of show.otherwise, it could be great 'art' that you see and love but dont purchase off the wall.sull
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Nerissa (TheVideoQueen) wrote: donations don't work--ask anyone in this group with a donation button on their site.I've gotten one donation. It worked quite well. It made me feel that theperson really valued what I did, and though it wasn't a huge amount, I
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Re: [videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan



also, who has donated money to ourmedia.org, blip.tv, fireant, mefeedia or vlogdir and on and on... these are services... many make great use of and benefit from. 
if they cant get many random donations, you better believe that most vloggers wont either.On 1/6/06, Michael Sullivan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:its always great to give a donation.i have donated money to programmers
usually because i make use of the software or feel they are providing a valuable free service. do you think they get a lot of donations? not usually i bet even Bram of BitTorrent barely got much donations and we all know how useful that technology is.
Though he is well off now!most video, even rboom video, loses value once it leaves the lot (car purchase analogy).some provide valuable info, training or stimulation. those are able to sustain value over time. 
so:the video should have a long-term valueif not a daily type of show.otherwise, it could be great 'art' that you see and love but dont purchase off the wall.sull

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Re: [videoblogging] Why is DivX so hard?

2006-01-06 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Frank Carver wrote:
 Friday, January 6, 2006, 3:13:49 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
 
This is just a personal opinion, but I tend to look down on companies
that do releases like that. I know that Mac OS X and Linux operating 
systems have less users than Windows, but it always comes off as an 
afterthought type of insult: Windows now! Mac later, Linux ever more 
later...
 
 
 But if the alternative is making all those PC users wait while the
 minority versions are developed, wouldn't that be just as bad (or
 worse)?

Actually, I forgot to mention that. I really like to see companies 
release everything at once. And it's not just because I'm a non-Windows 
user. When DTV came out for the Mac, with the message that the Windows 
version would come out later, I had wished they could all come out at 
the same time, so I could point Windows users I know towards it. I'm 
just an idealist I guess.


 One of the open-source software mantras is release early, release
 often. The idea being that the sooner you can get _anything_ in the
 hands of real users, the sooner you can begin learning about how the
 product is really used, what's most important, and how it can be
 improved.

Well, it also assumes that the sooner you get something out there, the 
sooner open-source developers can start working on it, and get it 
running on other platforms. ;)


 If it makes you any feel any happier, consider the PC users as the
 guinea-pigs - testing the software so that the wrinkles have been
 ironed out by the time it is made available to the Mac/Linux
 cognoscenti ;)

Nope, it doesn't... And since were talking about different code running 
on different operating systems, I'd expect that different bugs may exist 
between implementations...

Anyway, let us know when it's available for platforms that are not Windows.

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[videoblogging] Featured on wearethemedia.com - thanks Steve!

2006-01-06 Thread Joe Chapuis



Hey Steve - What a pleasant surprise to stumble upon your review of my vlog on the front page of http://wearethemedia.com/. (And a link from a site with a Google PR7, nonetheless - wonderful!)I appreciate your comments/feedback. It isn't easy getting started in this medium. Your article is just what I needed to keep me moving forward - especially when it seems like my family and friends are the only ones watching ; )It looks like you picked-up my press release somewhere. I'm curious, how did you stumble upon it? FYI to all: www.prweb.com is a great way to generate quick traffic, new interest and some quality incoming links. I chose the $80 package.Thanks again...joewww.HotBizz.com





  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Questions on Formats to Post for Vlog.

2006-01-06 Thread Markus Sandy
hi cheryl,

i have been using blip.tv for some time now and am very happy it

i notice that some people post their videos there in two formats: 
quicktime and windows media

for myself, i only upload quicktime videos as .mov files, generally 
using the settings from freevlog.org

however, more and more people are now using the iPod m4v format instead

it's your call as to how many formats you wish to support

i'm always toying with the idea of providing wmv files for Internet 
Explorer users, but never get around to it (sorry IE users!)

markus


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Dear Vlogging Group,

I have a question regarding exporting formats. At the moment I have
both PC and Mac. On my Powerbook, the IMovie has a setting direct for
the Video Ipod. I've been exporting in that format as well as Windows
Media. Is there a general rule of thumb for exporting in other
formats? I'm not sure what proper protocol is. 

Also, when I export in Mp4 and .mov format from my new powerbook, it
won't play on last year's Mac. I tried to download the updated
Quicktime pro 7, but it won't download. 

I'm not sure what to do. Does this mean I should export in several
formats or ???

Also, I recently was told about blip.tv and other distribution
outlets. In the group's opinion, where is the best place to actually
post your videoblogs?

I would appreciate the feedback. Thank you in advance.

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Re: [videoblogging] Featured on wearethemedia.com - thanks Steve!

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[videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Bill Streeter
I'm not saying that there won't be an increase in content. I'm 
saying that the increase hardly matters when there is already more 
content than there are hours in a day. We've been at critical mass 
in terms of content even before the Internet came along. Content 
producers aren't just competing with content from their own niche 
distribution model. When I watch video blogs they compete for time 
against everything else I do. So in order for me to choose to watch 
they have to be more compelling, for some reason, than say any of 
the other entertainment options I have at any given time.

Now can selling your audience to a third party be a moral issue? 
Yeah. But it depends on how you do it. If you make your users 
register to see your content and then sell their personal info 
behind their backs to market research companies then that would be 
immoral in my book. If you communicate to your audience that you 
need to take on some advertising or a sponsorship to help pay your 
bills then I see no moral issue with that. It's the difference 
between being up front and honest about what you're doing and not. 
There can also be issues with how much you might compromise your 
content to please advertisers as well, and that's yet another can of 
worms that isn't unique to this space.  

On the topic of what a traditional video blog is, I gotta wonder 
how a medium so young can have anything that is really traditional. 
RB is pretty old in terms of vlogs (just over a year) is that a 
traditional video blog? The only traditions I can see in video 
blogging is the basic tools and techniques we use. I wouldn't want 
to lock in any hard and fast definition of what a traditional vlog 
is. Once we do that then that can stifle the creativity of what 
others think they can do with it. One thing that I think we can all 
agree on is that putting video on a blog is a powerful thing. 

But really, I gotta say, even the most mundane personal video blog 
has much more value than playing dominoes. 

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 Hi Bill,
 
 I call bullshit, on this. Anyone who has an
 audiance has value to offer someone else who wants to talk to that
 audiance.
 
 I believe the original point of this thread was to find income 
 outside of advertising and also that selling your audience to a 
third 
 party, is a moral issue. And anyway, advertising won't pay a 
 videoblogger's bills.
 
 To say that no one should or could make money off video blogging 
is
 like saying that no one can or should make money off of blogging, 
but
 that's already being done so there goes that theory.
 
 Well, let's just step back for a minute, I didn't say that no one 
 should or could make, so please don't put words in my mouth. I 
said 
 that people who aren't making money, but are looking for a way to, 
 should probably carefully consider their options.
 
 Secondly, it depends what you call blogging and videoblogging, 
 doesn't it? The discussion I believe was about the more 
traditional 
 type of videblog, so personal entries in crono order on a blog. 
(Ooh, 
 that'll get me in trouble on this list)
 
 There hasn't been a lack of free content in the world for a very 
long
 So I have no idea what your point is about increasing amount of 
free
 content.
 
 So you're saying the amount of free content won't increase?
 
 Here's an example. Who here watches RocketBoom? How many 
RocketBoom 
 lookalikes are there today? How many will there be in six or 
twelve 
 months? Will RocketBoom be able to compete? Andrew and Amanda have 
 staked their claim, but it won't last. In a year, just like in 
 podcasting, there will be a hundred, if not a thousand 
RocketBooms. 
 Maybe not as sexy as Andrew, but there you go. ;-)
 
 I'm going to step out of this one now. Several opinions. Who knows 
 what we'll be doing in 12 months. I'm more than happy to be proven 
 wrong when my vlog is my primary source of income.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Featured on wearethemedia.com - thanks Steve!

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan



well-deserved, joe.your delivery is refreshingly calm but meaningful.On 1/6/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[videoblogging] Re: Featured on wearethemedia.com - thanks Steve!

2006-01-06 Thread Joe Chapuis
 what is google pr7?

Oh, sorry about that. PR refers to page rank. It helps determines 
how well a site ranks in Google's search results. 

It's on scale from 0 to 10. When it comes to other sites linking to 
you, the higher their PR score, the better it is for you as a web 
site owner. 

More incoming links from high PR sites = more quality traffic for 
you.

A better explanation:
http://www.iprcom.com/papers/pagerank/

And from google...

PageRank Technology: PageRank performs an objective measurement of 
the importance of web pages by solving an equation of more than 500 
million variables and 2 billion terms. Instead of counting direct 
links, PageRank interprets a link from Page A to Page B as a vote 
for Page B by Page A. PageRank then assesses a page's importance by 
the number of votes it receives. 

PageRank also considers the importance of each page that casts a 
vote, as votes from some pages are considered to have greater value, 
thus giving the linked page greater value. Important pages receive a 
higher PageRank and appear at the top of the search results. 
Google's technology uses the collective intelligence of the web to 
determine a page's importance. There is no human involvement or 
manipulation of results, which is why users have come to trust 
Google as a source of objective information untainted by paid 
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 what is google pr7?
 
 On 1/6/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hey Steve -
 
  What a pleasant surprise to stumble upon your review of my vlog 
on the
  front page of http://wearethemedia.com/. (And a link from a site 
with
  a Google PR7, nonetheless - wonderful!)
 
  I appreciate your comments/feedback. It isn't easy getting 
started in
  this medium. Your article is just what I needed to keep me moving
  forward - especially when it seems like my family and friends 
are the
  only ones watching ; )
 
  It looks like you picked-up my press release somewhere. I'm 
curious,
  how did you stumble upon it?
 
  FYI to all: www.prweb.com is a great way to generate quick 
traffic,
  new interest and some quality incoming links. I chose the $80 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Featured on wearethemedia.com - thanks Steve!

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan



http://www.google-pagerank.net/index.phpto find out yours.On 1/6/06, Joe Chapuis 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is google pr7?Oh, sorry about that. PR refers to page rank. It helps determines
how well a site ranks in Google's search results.It's on scale from 0 to 10. When it comes to other sites linking toyou, the higher their PR score, the better it is for you as a website owner.More incoming links from high PR sites = more quality traffic for
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the importance of web pages by solving an equation of more than 500million variables and 2 billion terms. Instead of counting directlinks, PageRank interprets a link from Page A to Page B as a votefor Page B by Page A. PageRank then assesses a page's importance by
the number of votes it receives.PageRank also considers the importance of each page that casts avote, as votes from some pages are considered to have greater value,thus giving the linked page greater value. Important pages receive a
higher PageRank and appear at the top of the search results.Google's technology uses the collective intelligence of the web todetermine a page's importance. There is no human involvement ormanipulation of results, which is why users have come to trust
Google as a source of objective information untainted by paidplacement.--best,joewww.hotbizz.com--- In 
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Re: [videoblogging] CES this week in Las Vegas

2006-01-06 Thread Deirdre Straughan



Looks as if I'll be spending most of my time with VWeb in Sands (Innovations area). Please drop by and see what we're up to IS relevant to videobloggers!
On 1/3/06, Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the tip on the unconference, will have to see what we can do about that. Not a demo, much as I would like to - too much equipment involved (equipment you already have in your home, but not typically found on a show floor...). 
Anyone wanting to see what TVBLOB does (I'm looking at you, Steve!) will need to stop by one of these locations:Microstar (MSI) 36513 South Hall 4VWeb Sands/70634 Toshiba - I think we're with: 
Toshiba America Electronic Components Inc. - System LSI Group - HC950Hilton Suites I'm not sure where I'll be at any given moment; I somehow have to keep an eye on all three locations.Definitely up for a meet the vloggers, and I'm there from tonight through Monday, so someone suggest a place and time! 

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Let's just use the list to organize.I'm there on the 7th and 8th.I set up as post to keep track over at :
http://meetthevloggers.blogspot.com/2005/12/drinks-and-dinner-las- 
vegas-ces.htmlI plan on watching the Patriots playoff game somewhere on the 7th at5:00 PM.So if you guys know of a good place to meet for that, wecould have a vloggie football watching meetup. 
There's also an un-conference being planned over here:http://ces.bubbleshare.com/index.php?wiki=SaturdayJanuarySeven
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[videoblogging] vodcast.bmw.com

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan



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Re: [videoblogging] Questions on Formats to Post for Vlog.

2006-01-06 Thread Joshua Kinberg
iPod will play mov and mp4. It depends more on the resolution and bitrate.
m4v is not actually anything other than an mp4 with h.264 codec, aac
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Bill Streeter wrote:
 
 But really, I gotta say, even the most mundane personal video blog 
 has much more value than playing dominoes. 

How long until we see videoblogs about people playing dominoes?

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Re: [videoblogging] Mefeedia Ranking

2006-01-06 Thread Ron Watson
Is there a way to find out my feed's ranking on mefeedia?

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[videoblogging] Re: Featured on wearethemedia.com - thanks Steve!

2006-01-06 Thread Joe Chapuis
 your delivery is refreshingly calm but meaningful.

Thanks, Sull. 

Based on your description, maybe I could land a sponsorship deal 
with Prozac? (Not that I'm on Prozac - yet.)

The HotBizz Report is sponsored by...
PROZAC -- be refreshingly calm, but meaningful - all day long.

How's that for thinking out of the box? ; )

BTW: I received your emails. I'll get back to you this weekend.

Thanks again...
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 your delivery is refreshingly calm but meaningful.


 
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[videoblogging] Australian Broadcasting Company to interview John Tobin

2006-01-06 Thread Steve Garfield
The Australian Broadcasting Company will be interviewing Boston City 
Councillor John Tobin on Tuesday, Jan 9th at 6:30 am their time, [ 
Monday 2:30 pm Boston time ], about his video blogging at 
http://votejohntobin.com

I think I've got that right:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=240

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Another CES post

2006-01-06 Thread Harold Johnson



We should all go back to film, 8mm.On 1/5/06, robert a/k/a r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey JimEarlier Pat Cook posted re a site http://www.vidilife.com/
 where theytalk about divx being the missing ingredient if the videos on theirsite don't play.What's the deal, why is divx such a pain to use and why can't all ofthis be made easier for the average user.
Why does it have to be so difficult, is it the vidilife peeps or thebrowser peeps making life complicated? i think I have the darn stuffdownloaded and it's not working. Or is it a MS issue?I've got to believe there is an easier way to make video work for the
masses. Is there something we all can do to make it easier, short ofdownloading a client that also downloads the divx bits?This is not urgent by any means, however I think it's important for thelong haul. When you have a minute I'd like to hear your thoughts when
you're back in the office. It's 2006 and we're still making users fusstoo much, IMO.--cheersrDeconstructing the status quo, collaborativelyhttp://r.24x7.com
http://vlog.registrar.comOn Jan 6, 2006, at 1:54 AM, JV wrote: Sounds very cool. We just started puting up videos on 
http://labs.divx.com. The intro is the only one live, but we have day one footage on the way. One bit is with Creative about the zencast. I am hoping to get together with josh so we can get fireant on the site too.
 I'll see if I see doug around tomorrow. We will probably be in automobiles in the morning and then play it by ear in the afternoon. back to the cave around 4 to edit up pieces.
 What does everyone want to see? We can probably split up tasks among everyone here with cameras on the floor. Cheers, Jim V p.s. this morning we were all handheld, this afternoon with the
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[videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Richard Bennett-Forrest
On the topic of what a traditional video blog is, I gotta wonder

Geez Bill, now you're trying to argue things I agree with. Do you 
actually read my emails?

On the original point, we disagree. No extra couple of hundred words, 
and nit picking the technicalities of the argument is going to change 
that.

When you're next in Sydney, give me call, we'll play Scrabble instead.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Featured on wearethemedia.com - thanks Steve!

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan



be refreshingly calm, but meaningful - all day long.LOL!On 1/6/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: your delivery is refreshingly calm but meaningful.Thanks, Sull.
Based on your description, maybe I could land a sponsorship dealwith Prozac? (Not that I'm on Prozac - yet.)The HotBizz Report is sponsored by...PROZAC -- be refreshingly calm, but meaningful - all day long.
How's that for thinking out of the box? ; )BTW: I received your emails. I'll get back to you this weekend.Thanks again...joewww.hotbizz.com--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well-deserved, joe. your delivery is refreshingly calm but meaningful.
 On 1/6/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hey Steve -   What a pleasant surprise to stumble upon your review of my vlogon the
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Re: [videoblogging] Mefeedia Ranking

2006-01-06 Thread Devlon



Hi Ron,

Currently there is no fast and easy way to determine your popularity
rank in Mefeedia. You can sort the Directory page by popularity
and look for your feed...I know it's painful right now :)

We are going to be making some more changes in the next month or
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Re: [videoblogging] Another CES post

2006-01-06 Thread Harold Johnson



Great post about Logitech; give us more! More!HaroldOn 1/5/06, JV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




We are dumping our first set of shots from the south hall right now.

we should have a post in a couple of hours. I know there were a
couple of others here.

Is there a list of everyone's blogs that are at CES? 

If anyone wants to get together, I don't know if there is much time,
but feel free to email me and we can work it out.

If you see someone lugging a sony hdv cam around that looks like a
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Markus Sandy






you're kidding, right?  =)

http://chasingmills.blogspot.com/2006/01/dominoes.html


Pete Prodoehl wrote:

  Bill Streeter wrote:
  
  
But really, I gotta say, even the most mundane personal video blog 
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How long until we see videoblogs about people playing dominoes?

(That sounds like a Friday Challenge to me!)


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[videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Enric
It's not the activity -- dominnoes, taking garbage out, writing a
letter, etc. -- that makes a scene interesting, but the narrative
drama of characters.

  -- Enric

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[videoblogging] Re: quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements

2006-01-06 Thread Enric
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   Well, tagging segments of video that can next be linked, aggregated
  and re-connected, etc. is a project I've been conceptualizing, drawing
  some prototypes and starting to work on (initially in Flash.)
 
 
 sounds good, and great to know people are looking at these
possibilities.
 . i built a similar system in director a few years ago.. the main
problem is
 the aggregation of online material. it was fine for marking material
that i
 imported in manually, but how do we work with material in peoples
 feeds/blogs?  i think peter was heading in the right direction with his
 quoting system.. (any ideas how that worked? peter is away at the
moment)..
 somehow it needs to be able to tag stuff and maybe (just maybe) let
people
 download only the tagged segment?

Well the problem I see is starting to send a file not from the
beginning, but from the start of a tagged point (probably identified
as SMTP Timecode to file byte location) to the end point.  Different
file formats have different capabilities.  Some may not easily allow
sending from and streaming from a file midpoint.

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[videoblogging] Re: Dutch RTL 4 TV will broadcast item on vlogging

2006-01-06 Thread Ron Langdon
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  Happy New Year….and  for the vloggers  who can receive Dutch TV and
speak Dutch.  
 Yesterday gabe  gabemac and myself were filmed and interviewed by a
crew from the RTL 4 Dutch TV for an item on vlogging. The item will be
broadcast on Friday o6 Jan (if not then on Monday) by Editie.nl  in
the program at 18.15 Dutch time.  My footage of the event is posted at
dutchvlog/blip   And at DutchVlog .  
 
 It's great exposure for us all. 
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Re: [videoblogging] re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Ted Tagami



You are spot on Frank. Those four are all birds-of-a-feather. It's
about mindshare. There are quite a few vloggers that want their signal
undiluted, and I can respect that.On 1/6/06, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Friday, January 6, 2006, 1:49:18 PM, Ron Watson wrote:
 If there is no money in
 media then there is no sense in controlling it, is there?

But if there's no money in the media itself, then that leaves the
field wide open for people and organizations willing to spend money to
achieve other aims: politics, evangelism, propaganda and advertising.

Have any of us got the clout to go up against any of _those_ bankrolls?

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Re: [videoblogging] Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Ted Tagami



Good point Sull. Selling picks and shovels to the 49ers!On 1/6/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



It is easier to make money by providing video services which may include a videoblog/vodcast setup. So, making video can make you money, but not necessarily having a videoblog.If you are into making video... then offer your videographer services... 
People need video of events like weddings, seminars, training, local documentaries, local business commercials etc...Some of those can be intermixed with a vlog for the client. Some would allow/want you to post to your own vlog as well
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Featured on wearethemedia.com - thanks Steve!

2006-01-06 Thread Ted Tagami



This little widget inserts a graphic meter of your page rank directly on your home page...

http://www.mypagerank.net/On 1/6/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.google-pagerank.net/index.phpto find out yours.
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how well a site ranks in Google's search results.It's on scale from 0 to 10. When it comes to other sites linking toyou, the higher their PR score, the better it is for you as a website owner.
More incoming links from high PR sites = more quality traffic for
you.A better explanation:http://www.iprcom.com/papers/pagerank/And from google...
PageRank Technology: PageRank performs an objective measurement of
the importance of web pages by solving an equation of more than 500million variables and 2 billion terms. Instead of counting directlinks, PageRank interprets a link from Page A to Page B as a votefor Page B by Page A. PageRank then assesses a page's importance by
the number of votes it receives.PageRank also considers the importance of each page that casts avote, as votes from some pages are considered to have greater value,thus giving the linked page greater value. Important pages receive a
higher PageRank and appear at the top of the search results.Google's technology uses the collective intelligence of the web todetermine a page's importance. There is no human involvement ormanipulation of results, which is why users have come to trust
Google as a source of objective information untainted by paidplacement.--best,joe
www.hotbizz.com--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is google pr7? On 1/6/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hey Steve -

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Re: [videoblogging] Questions on Formats to Post for Vlog.

2006-01-06 Thread robert a/k/a r
Josh, from a risk management perspective is there any reason to think 
Apple may in future harden their m4v scheme at some point making it a 
requirement to have mv4 extension to sync to ipod, making a nightmare 
scenario for peeps with renamed m4v  mp4 assets on servers and links 
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 iPod will play mov and mp4. It depends more on the resolution and 
 bitrate.
 m4v is not actually anything other than an mp4 with h.264 codec, aac
 audio, and specific resolution and bitrate settings optimized for
 iPod. So really, m4v is a made up file extension. It should actually
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 to edit the filename replacing .m4v extension with .mp4 as that is
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Re: [videoblogging] Questions on Formats to Post for Vlog.

2006-01-06 Thread T.Whid
One thing the M4V extension does do is that iTunes maps that file
extension to itself. So if you want the file to be double-clicked and
opened in QuickTime, you would prefer the mp4 extension.

My feeling is that Apple invented it specifically to be an iTunes
video file (as opposed to a QuickTime file).

The default behavior (on Firefox and Safari anyway) when opening the
file from a server in a browser, whether it be m4v or mp4 or mov, is
to play it in the QT plugin (as long as the mime type is set correctly
on the server). I think IE's default is to prompt one to download it.

On 1/6/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 iPod will play mov and mp4. It depends more on the resolution and bitrate.
 m4v is not actually anything other than an mp4 with h.264 codec, aac
 audio, and specific resolution and bitrate settings optimized for
 iPod. So really, m4v is a made up file extension. It should actually
 be mp4, as that's really the correct file type. It is often preferable
 to edit the filename replacing .m4v extension with .mp4 as that is
 more accurately what the file *is*.

 -Josh


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  i have been using blip.tv for some time now and am very happy it
 
  i notice that some people post their videos there in two formats:
  quicktime and windows media
 
  for myself, i only upload quicktime videos as .mov files, generally
  using the settings from freevlog.org
 
  however, more and more people are now using the iPod m4v format instead
 
  it's your call as to how many formats you wish to support
 
  i'm always toying with the idea of providing wmv files for Internet
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pay Per View Video Coming From Google

2006-01-06 Thread robert a/k/a r
heh. i experimented with open step on solaris pizza boxes, but i didn't 
inhale. does that count?

and gawd, while digging through old memories, how many peeps on this 
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 Joshua Paul wrote:
 Are there NeXTsteppers here?

 I've got a NeXTStation in my basement that needs some loving...

 It hasn't booted up since 1999 or so.


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Re: [videoblogging] quoting, tagging and smallest narrative elements

2006-01-06 Thread Digital Buddha



Are you proposing something like a virtual remix, where you could dig
into the hive mind and come up with tagged video segments for
different uses? Am I understanding this correctly?On 1/6/06, duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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sections of video. I've been playing with the korsakov system recently
URL: http://www.korsakow.com/ksy/index.html
 developed by Florian Thalhofer URL: http://www.thalhofer.com/
for building non-linear films and he talks about the idea of SNEs
(smallest narrative elements), now these can be stills, sections of
film, audio, basically the minimum amount of something that contributes
to the narrative. so how does this relate to vlogging? well.. is there a way to
tag sections of a video, mefeedia had a quoting system (has that
disappeared Peter?), how would you add tags to this? or maybe there is
a better way.. i don;t know.. but i like the idea of being able to
subscribe to a series of tags in del.icio.us
(or equivalent), say 'rain' and 'beauty', and then getting to watch a
generative film about beauty and rain. the reason i think tagging
sections is great is that the film that gets compiled is
continous, a fireant edit so to speak, without the credits inbetween
each clip, and without the associated narrative of the film the section
came from. does this make sense? i guess i'm asking for both technical
and theoretical input or ideas here.. there's definitely more to this
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[videoblogging] New Member

2006-01-06 Thread grasshopperatyourfeet
Well Hi there!

I'm not the best at these intro things so I'll simply say, My name 
is Lisa and I'm a novice vlogger. 

My Dad is a vlogger too and that's how I got started. First watching 
his vlogs and enjoying them, then being included in a few myself. 
Then I started using my digital camera (low end fujifilm takes 20 
second frame film not very good indoors)to make small movies and 
after some help from Dad and from those lovely folks at freevlog.org 
(gotta love free plugs huh?) I set up my own vlog.  It's not fancy, 
deep, thought provoking or marketable but it is mine and I'm having 
a good time with it. I hope other folks here will check it out and 
maybe even make a comment or two from time to time. 

my feed is: http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheGrasshopperAtYourFeet
the site url: www.ravenesse.blogspot.com

Thanks for viewing/reading/commenting
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Featured on wearethemedia.com - thanks Steve!

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan



sweet, and its green. on vlogdir it goes.On 1/6/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



This little widget inserts a graphic meter of your page rank directly on your home page...

http://www.mypagerank.net/
On 1/6/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.google-pagerank.net/index.phpto find out yours.
On 1/6/06, Joe Chapuis 
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how well a site ranks in Google's search results.It's on scale from 0 to 10. When it comes to other sites linking toyou, the higher their PR score, the better it is for you as a website owner.

More incoming links from high PR sites = more quality traffic for
you.A better explanation:http://www.iprcom.com/papers/pagerank/And from google...
PageRank Technology: PageRank performs an objective measurement of
the importance of web pages by solving an equation of more than 500million variables and 2 billion terms. Instead of counting directlinks, PageRank interprets a link from Page A to Page B as a votefor Page B by Page A. PageRank then assesses a page's importance by
the number of votes it receives.PageRank also considers the importance of each page that casts avote, as votes from some pages are considered to have greater value,thus giving the linked page greater value. Important pages receive a
higher PageRank and appear at the top of the search results.Google's technology uses the collective intelligence of the web todetermine a page's importance. There is no human involvement ormanipulation of results, which is why users have come to trust
Google as a source of objective information untainted by paidplacement.--best,joe

www.hotbizz.com--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is google pr7? On 1/6/06, Joe Chapuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hey Steve -


   What a pleasant surprise to stumble upon your review of my vlogon the  front page of 

http://wearethemedia.com/. (And a link from a sitewith
  a Google PR7, nonetheless - wonderful!)   I appreciate your comments/feedback. It isn't easy gettingstarted in  this medium. Your article is just what I needed to keep me moving
  forward - especially when it seems like my family and friendsare the  only ones watching ; )   It looks like you picked-up my press release somewhere. I'mcurious,

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pay Per View Video Coming From Google

2006-01-06 Thread Pete Prodoehl
robert a/k/a r wrote:
 heh. i experimented with open step on solaris pizza boxes, but i didn't 
 inhale. does that count?
 
 and gawd, while digging through old memories, how many peeps on this 
 list are old enough to have installed netscape commerce server?

How about old enough to remember the days before Netscape, when NCSA's 
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[videoblogging] japanese videoblog

2006-01-06 Thread Jay dedman
http://www.herroflomjapan.com/
feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/hfj_videocast

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[videoblogging] Re: Pay Per View Video Coming From Google

2006-01-06 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 robert a/k/a r wrote:
  heh. i experimented with open step on solaris pizza boxes, but i
didn't 
  inhale. does that count?
  
  and gawd, while digging through old memories, how many peeps on this 
  list are old enough to have installed netscape commerce server?
 
 How about old enough to remember the days before Netscape, when NCSA's 
 Mosaic roamed the earth...? :)
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pay Per View Video Coming From Google

2006-01-06 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Enric wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
robert a/k/a r wrote:
heh. i experimented with open step on solaris pizza boxes, but i
 didn't 
 
inhale. does that count?

and gawd, while digging through old memories, how many peeps on this 
list are old enough to have installed netscape commerce server?

How about old enough to remember the days before Netscape, when NCSA's 
Mosaic roamed the earth...? :)

 Old enough to have a commodore 64 and Apple II+ as first computers. 
 Pascal as the first programming language class in College.  And see
 the first Lisa computers (on display with a clear plastic casing with
 internals visible.)

Ah, the Apple II+ was also my first computer, an I mastered BASIC with 
the help of a cassette recorder attached to it, typing 'LOAD' and 
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[videoblogging] Re: Limegreen Tangerine Kevin Buckstiegel LimeBlog Blog

2006-01-06 Thread Kevin
Thanks for the mention! I really apprecaite it. I'm still so excited that I am 
able to share my 
videos with you and the world... that is why I am so addicted to video 
blogging. There are 
a lot of debates and arguments about video blogging, but lets never forget what 
it is 
always all about... simply enough... sharing!

Take care,
Kev!

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 Wow... that really WAS good... made me all vaklempt.  They graduated
 from high school the same year as me... it could have been one of MY
 friends.
 
 Beautiful,
 Kitka
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  A great demonstration of the power of video and blogging.
  
  http://www.lgt2.com/limeblogbeta/2006/01/05/long-lost-friend/







 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pay Per View Video Coming From Google

2006-01-06 Thread Markus Sandy






ok, now look what you guys went and made me do ...

i knew i had this old video tape around somewhere,
a promo by Next with an application development competition against
Sun! 

whoot!

i don't have any fancy VHS capture tools, so I just shot the thing
directly to my Xacti and uploaded it

18 minutes of pure nostalgia!

enjoy! I knew I kept this for a reason.

http://apperceive.blogs.com/apperceive/2006/01/1991_next_vs_su.html

Markus



robert a/k/a r wrote:

  heh. i experimented with open step on solaris pizza boxes, but i didn't 
inhale. does that count?

and gawd, while digging through old memories, how many peeps on this 
list are old enough to have installed netscape commerce server?

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Joshua Paul wrote:


  Are there NeXTsteppers here?
  

I've got a NeXTStation in my basement that needs some loving...

It hasn't booted up since 1999 or so.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pay Per View Video Coming From Google

2006-01-06 Thread robert a/k/a r
That's awesome, Markus. I love the camerawork, the shots of the Sun prog from above, the photography (and edit) really tells a good story in this one. 

While on the subject of images analysis, I discovered an interesting site (via esorabbit) which I gave brief mention on my blog:
http://www.24x7.com/blog/2006-01/images-and-agendas/>

And hey, do you remember the demo when the Steve had a next step airlines res interface and actually booked a flight, it was another great Steve moment.


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ok, now look what you guys went and made me do ...

i knew i had this old video tape around somewhere,
a promo by Next with an application development competition against Sun!

whoot!

i don't have any fancy VHS capture tools, so I just shot the thing directly to my Xacti and uploaded it

18 minutes of pure nostalgia!

enjoy!  I knew I kept this for a reason.

http://apperceive.blogs.com/apperceive/2006/01/1991_next_vs_su.html

Markus




[videoblogging] Re: Thinking outside the box...

2006-01-06 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The debate 'to be paid or not to be paid' is only here because we are
 in limbo... waiting for the mainstream to fully integrate the system
 vloggers and bloggers have set in motion.

Wanting the mainstream to integrate vlogging and blogging into
itself--to subsume them, in other words--is akin to having a death wish.





 
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[videoblogging] Newsvine Out of the Dark

2006-01-06 Thread LeanBackVids.com
Newsvine.com has opened up invitation to a private beta.  Here is some
background info...

// START QUOTE
At Newsvine, you can read breaking news from around the world, write
your own articles, and publish links from across the web directly to
your column.  You'll also keep ad revenue from all traffic your pages
generate.  Feel free to register and select a domain name for yourself
(yourname.newsvine.com) whenever you'd like. It's all free of course.

In order to let all citizens of the Newsvine community control its
growth and usership, we are keeping access to Newsvine invite-only for
the time being. As a reward for bringing positive members into the
community, you'll receive 10% of the ad earnings from their column,
which you can either donate to your charity of choice or keep for
yourself. You have 20 invites for now. You don't have to use all your
invites at once. Enter email addresses into this form to start sending
invites now.
// END QUOTE

I've seeded a few in this community and each user is limited to only
20 invites... so ask around.  It is still pretty hard to get, but
you'll be hearing more about this site in the near future.

Not sure what the future plans are (if any) for video.

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[videoblogging] Invitation video on Blip, dailymotion, youtube and audioblog, don't miss it!!!

2006-01-06 Thread Paul Knight
 An invitation to join the fastest growing yahoo group, to all who didn't see my note on mefeedia, videoblogging and vlogeurope groups or the vast amount of e-mails sent out.  To all Brits, Scots, Welsh or Irish, Ex-pat or not we want you to join our group.  This is not a separatist movement, it's a coming together.

http://blip.tv/file/get/Pjkproductions-UKVIDEOBLOGGERSGROUP293.mp4
http://www.dailymotion.com/pjkproductions/video/23091
http://www.youtube.com/?v=GIGce8HApGE

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[videoblogging] Re: Newsvine Out of the Dark

2006-01-06 Thread Bill Streeter
Let me be the first to say I would like an invite.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
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 Newsvine.com has opened up invitation to a private beta.  Here is 
some
 background info...
 
 // START QUOTE
 At Newsvine, you can read breaking news from around the world, 
write
 your own articles, and publish links from across the web directly 
to
 your column.  You'll also keep ad revenue from all traffic your 
pages
 generate.  Feel free to register and select a domain name for 
yourself
 (yourname.newsvine.com) whenever you'd like. It's all free of 
course.
 
 In order to let all citizens of the Newsvine community control its
 growth and usership, we are keeping access to Newsvine invite-only 
for
 the time being. As a reward for bringing positive members into the
 community, you'll receive 10% of the ad earnings from their column,
 which you can either donate to your charity of choice or keep for
 yourself. You have 20 invites for now. You don't have to use all 
your
 invites at once. Enter email addresses into this form to start 
sending
 invites now.
 // END QUOTE
 
 I've seeded a few in this community and each user is limited to 
only
 20 invites... so ask around.  It is still pretty hard to get, but
 you'll be hearing more about this site in the near future.
 
 Not sure what the future plans are (if any) for video.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Newsvine Out of the Dark

2006-01-06 Thread Paul Knight
Hey, I want you bill for the UKVloggers, please join, could do with your input on video conferences.

Paul

On 6 Jan 2006, at 22:40, Bill Streeter wrote:

Let me be the first to say I would like an invite.

 Bill Streeter
 LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
 www.lofistl.com

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > Newsvine.com has opened up invitation to a private beta.  Here is 
 some
 > background info...
 > 
 > // START QUOTE
 > At Newsvine, you can read breaking news from around the world, 
 write
 > your own articles, and publish links from across the web directly 
 to
 > your column.  You'll also keep ad revenue from all traffic your 
 pages
 > generate.  Feel free to register and select a domain name for 
 yourself
 > (yourname.newsvine.com) whenever you'd like. It's all free of 
 course.
 > 
 > In order to let all citizens of the Newsvine community control its
 > growth and usership, we are keeping access to Newsvine invite-only
 for
 > the time being. As a reward for bringing positive members into the
 > community, you'll receive 10% of the ad earnings from their column,
 > which you can either donate to your charity of choice or keep for
 > yourself. You have 20 invites for now. You don't have to use all 
 your
 > invites at once. Enter email addresses into this form to start 
 sending
 > invites now.
 > // END QUOTE
 > 
 > I've seeded a few in this community and each user is limited to 
 only
 > 20 invites... so ask around.  It is still pretty hard to get, but
 > you'll be hearing more about this site in the near future.
 > 
 > Not sure what the future plans are (if any) for video.
 > 
 > -Matt
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 > http://leanbackvids.com
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[videoblogging] I need anyones help!

2006-01-06 Thread bofoboho



O.k. here's the dealio~ 320x240 w/ Smithie Boho is in rotation @ Current TV And I need you to give me the GREEN LIGHT Vote on it and feel free to leave a comment. Also I am taking submissions for work that is non-commerical for reviews. This is a great chance to not only get reviewed but also get exposure. I thank you for your continued support and hope to see you soon.Smithie Boho320x240 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please if you feel this is Sp.Am delete.


  




  
  
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[videoblogging] I've been vlogging in the dark, looking for the answers

2006-01-06 Thread jaguarfan888
Does anyone know of any cheap camcorders that can record really well
in low light? My camera is horrible in the dark so I'm just looking
for something new. Thanks.





 
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[videoblogging] Re: Why is DivX so hard?

2006-01-06 Thread JV
We have in the past (okay, it was only once, but it happened) released
a mac product before PC products. We are just putting them out as soon
as they are ready and not sooner.

Like you said... different programs on different operating systems
with different bugs. It also means more developer time.


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  Friday, January 6, 2006, 3:13:49 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
  
 This is just a personal opinion, but I tend to look down on companies
 that do releases like that. I know that Mac OS X and Linux operating 
 systems have less users than Windows, but it always comes off as an 
 afterthought type of insult: Windows now! Mac later, Linux ever more 
 later...
  
  
  But if the alternative is making all those PC users wait while the
  minority versions are developed, wouldn't that be just as bad (or
  worse)?
 
 Actually, I forgot to mention that. I really like to see companies 
 release everything at once. And it's not just because I'm a non-Windows 
 user. When DTV came out for the Mac, with the message that the Windows 
 version would come out later, I had wished they could all come out at 
 the same time, so I could point Windows users I know towards it. I'm 
 just an idealist I guess.
 
 
  One of the open-source software mantras is release early, release
  often. The idea being that the sooner you can get _anything_ in the
  hands of real users, the sooner you can begin learning about how the
  product is really used, what's most important, and how it can be
  improved.
 
 Well, it also assumes that the sooner you get something out there, the 
 sooner open-source developers can start working on it, and get it 
 running on other platforms. ;)
 
 
  If it makes you any feel any happier, consider the PC users as the
  guinea-pigs - testing the software so that the wrinkles have been
  ironed out by the time it is made available to the Mac/Linux
  cognoscenti ;)
 
 Nope, it doesn't... And since were talking about different code running 
 on different operating systems, I'd expect that different bugs may
exist 
 between implementations...
 
 Anyway, let us know when it's available for platforms that are not
Windows.
 
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[videoblogging] What is the REAL future of videoblogging

2006-01-06 Thread jerry
OK, vlogger-community please put your thinking hats and help me 
to figure out something-and so, I have a few questions...what really 
is the future of video blogging? 


Is this going to be just a hobby and with the time cease to nothing 
or 
is this going to take off and reach out the mass audiences of the 
world 
and become the new media of tomorrow? 


Thus far Vlogging still is within a small community, we all know 
that...and main stream society is not [yet] in tune with this new 
trend. 


Now, we [all] have seen the news and witness that some vlogs such as 
Rocketboom are taking off and maybe in the future will sniff some 
profits... 


OK, now...is Rocketboom the only pixel in the firmament of vlogging 
taking off or are we going to see many others vlogs [successfully] 
flourishing in the near future? 


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Re: [videoblogging] What is the REAL future of videoblogging

2006-01-06 Thread Ted Tagami



I believe that there is an opportunity for dozens of vloggers to be
financially successful with their projects in the near term. Those that
succeed are the ones that have a clear vision of what it is they which
to achieve and stay in dogged pursuit of it regardless of personal
style or format.

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OK, vlogger-community please put your thinking hats and help me 
to figure out something-and so, I have a few questions...what really 
is the future of video blogging? 


Is this going to be just a hobby and with the time cease to nothing 
or 
is this going to take off and reach out the mass audiences of the 
world 
and become the new media of tomorrow? 


Thus far Vlogging still is within a small community, we all know 
that...and main stream society is not [yet] in tune with this new 
trend. 


Now, we [all] have seen the news and witness that some vlogs such as 
Rocketboom are taking off and maybe in the future will sniff some 
profits... 


OK, now...is Rocketboom the only pixel in the firmament of vlogging 
taking off or are we going to see many others vlogs [successfully] 
flourishing in the near future? 


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[videoblogging] Re: What is the REAL future of videoblogging

2006-01-06 Thread Matthew Clayfield
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[videoblogging] [MacWorld] SF Dinner 1/12 (RSVP now!)

2006-01-06 Thread Digital
Meet the Vloggers: A special dinner event!

What: A convivial meet-and-greet with more than a dozen videobloggers
and podcasters.

When: Thursday, Jan. 12, at 6:30 pm

RSVP: http://upcoming.org/event/48639

Where: Henry's Hunan Chinese restaurant, 110 Natoma St. Directions on
RSVP site.

Why: Meet the Vlogger events have taken place at Apple stores across
the country. We're holding a special dinner event to meet Macworld
Expo attendees.

Price: About $25 per person for dinner. There is a clinic earlier in
the day at the Metreon that is free. See RSVP site 

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: What is the REAL future of videoblogging

2006-01-06 Thread Ted Tagami



Have more faith Matt! We've really not defined near term yet! ;)On 1/6/06, Matthew Clayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[videoblogging] you know youre a geek videoblogger...

2006-01-06 Thread Jay dedman
when you excited by the first photo of Michael Meiser ever seen before.
http://www.evilvlog.com/?p=1261

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Re: [videoblogging] What is the REAL future of videoblogging

2006-01-06 Thread Richard Show



I would like to note that your tags are not well-formed/properly nested xml ...correctionirony_that_richard_thinks_he_can_give_michael_programming_lessons removing drinking hat applying thinking hat
... blah de blah /applying thinking hat /removing drinking hat/irony_that_richard_thinks_he_can_give_michael_programming_lessons... although I must say, I believe your analysis was spot on ... Richard (the geek wannabee)
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removing drinking hatapplying thinking hat...video ain't no trend, yothe future is what you make ittoday will decide tomorrowsuccess has many flavors.

...the vlog is the vesselenormous amounts of vlog debriscontent is king, timing is ace. it might be running out, jokerevilvlogremoving thinking hatapplying drinking hat
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[videoblogging] vlogdir+vlogmap

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan



last month, i asked matt if he could make it possible to easily link to vlogmap from vlogdir feeds (or any other service).he just let me know that he finished adding this ability and i went ahead and worked it into 
vlogdir.com.inside the vodcasts that are aggregated on vlogdir, you should see a vlogmap badge beneath the rss media items in the channel. clicking this will launch a vlogmap for the feed IF it exists in the vlogmap database. 
also, this only works with feedburner feeds.vlogdir is also linking to a metrics graph that is generated by vlogmap.this is in addition to the already integrated feedburner awareness api access that vlogdir has made available, such as the subscriber chiclet and weekly rss stats etc...
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