Re: [videoblogging] Freevlog to Wordpress instruction tweak???

2006-01-19 Thread Joshua Kinberg
 I know this is possibly not gonna help at all, but if you want to play
 your video on line and not make a link for feedburner for itunes or
 fireant, post you video to Dailymotion or Youtube, then blog from there
 and they will put a flash version of your video straight on your site,

Ummm... yeah, see that's the problem. No feed. No iTunes. No FireAnt.
No viewing experience other than an embedded Flash player on your
site. That's a serious limitation.

-josh


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 I know this is possibly not gonna help at all, but if you want to play
 your video on line and not make a link for feedburner for itunes or
 fireant, post you video to Dailymotion or Youtube, then blog from there
 and they will put a flash version of your video straight on your site,
 a lot of people are doing it, because it is really simple.  The sites
 tell you how to and Dailymotion all you need is you site url and they
 do the rest for you.

 Paul

 On 19 Jan 2006, at 01:37, john coffey wrote:

  To Michael Verdi, Ryanne and Jay, your Freevlog is just such an
  immense help with getting my vlog up, almost... I've shot the stuff,
  encoded it, done a screen shot too! But Michaels example of uploading
  to Blogger is leaving me a little lost with uploading to Wordpress.
  Wordpress 2.0 has an image button but I cant seem to get a Quicktime
  embedded. Any help from the Vlog group would be so helpful to this
  Mac head!
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Ridley
On 1/18/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:02 PM, wtrainbow wrote:

  Even though you might not be making money now if you do in the
  future they could so for
  back royalties with interest and that could feasibly be a handsome
  chunk of change.

 Interesting you should say that... if someone starts to make money
 you could legaly structure yourselves and incoporate to avoid
 liabilities from the original practices... it's quite simple actually.

Yes and no.  If it's obvious that was your intent, a judge can pierce
the corporate veil.  It would be better to plan not to create illegal
content in the first place.

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Re: [videoblogging] legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 06:01:39 +0100, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:47 PM, nikadigital wrote:

 it doesn't matter
  if you are making money or doing this for charity. you must secure
  clearance.

 This just isn't true. There are many times when you can use material
 that is owned by others without their permission. I can do a story
 about Home Depot, for example, use their logo, film in front of their
 store and talk all about them without their permission.

Nikidigital was talking about copyright. Logos are usuallly not covered by  
copyrights (they're not Works), and Home Depot certainly don't have  
copyrights covering their storefronts. What you're talking about is not  
copyrights!

 It's called FAIR USE, and there are many many times people can use
 footage created or owned by others, images and trademarks and public
 appearances and such.

No, Fair Use related to using copyrighted works.

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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Crystal

 
 Nikidigital was talking about copyright. Logos are usuallly not 
covered by  
 copyrights (they're not Works), and Home Depot certainly don't 
have  
 copyrights covering their storefronts. What you're talking about 
is not  
 copyrights!
 
  It's called FAIR USE, and there are many many times people can 
use
  footage created or owned by others, images and trademarks and 
public
  appearances and such.
 
 No, Fair Use related to using copyrighted works.
 
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Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with 
background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the 
pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net. 
Republish on the net...so every can see it. But yet its mainly for 
Friends and Family

is that breaking any laws?

I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share 
it with people??







 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:35:58 +0100, Crystal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
 background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
 pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net.
 Republish on the net...so every can see it. But yet its mainly for
 Friends and Family

 is that breaking any laws?

 I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share
 it with people??

When you buy a cd you buy a copy of the music for personal use. What you  
can and cannot do is governed by copyright law. Broadcasting the music to  
the world is not one of the things you can do. This is why I keep  
repeating my mantra: Educate yourself. Buy a book or borrow one at the  
library. Learn the law.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Jen Simmons
Yes,
  in my rant I was being completely U.S.-centric without acknowledging 
it... (very american). I apologize.

Thanks for letting us know about copyright law are Australia. Anyone 
else?? Other places??

This does bring up interesting points -- the internet is global, so how 
does the law or practices of individual countries come into play? Since 
the corporate conglomerate has become more powerful than any country 
and more rights-laden than any individual, and passes right over 
borders as if they aren't there -- how does this reality affect what we 
as artists do or don't do? Does U.S. copyright law cover the globe in a 
way, since most global corporations are run by U.S. owners (with an 
off-shore address to evade taxes of course)?

The professional independent U.S. filmmaker community is obsessed with 
copyright law in just the U.S., but it really is a globe question. Is 
the global videoblogging community the group to help figure a lot of 
this out / help create a climate of openness, a culture of taking all 
opportunities, and a habit of pushing the envelope instead of recoiling 
in fear??

jen

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On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote:



 Jen, I'm guessing you live in USA?
 just for info for any Aussies on the list who haven't already seen 
 this, here's a fair use - myths  misconceptions document from 
 Australian Copyright Centre ( http://www.copyright.org.au ) as there 
 are some differences between Aus  US laws
 http://www.copyright.org.au/specialinterest/G091.pdf

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[videoblogging] Voting For Your Favorite Video

2006-01-19 Thread Carolyn Sebolao
I was wandering how I would be able to have people vote for their 
favorite video on a video blog and is it possible.

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Re: [videoblogging] Freevlog to Wordpress instruction tweak???

2006-01-19 Thread john coffey
Josh, you feel my pain! Bt once I'm there, a vlog from
Philly and the Chesapeake Bay area.

--- Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I know this is possibly not gonna help at all, but
 if you want to play
  your video on line and not make a link for
 feedburner for itunes or
  fireant, post you video to Dailymotion or Youtube,
 then blog from there
  and they will put a flash version of your video
 straight on your site,
 
 Ummm... yeah, see that's the problem. No feed. No
 iTunes. No FireAnt.
 No viewing experience other than an embedded Flash
 player on your
 site. That's a serious limitation.
 
 -josh
 
 
 On 1/18/06, Paul Knight
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I know this is possibly not gonna help at all, but
 if you want to play
  your video on line and not make a link for
 feedburner for itunes or
  fireant, post you video to Dailymotion or Youtube,
 then blog from there
  and they will put a flash version of your video
 straight on your site,
  a lot of people are doing it, because it is really
 simple.  The sites
  tell you how to and Dailymotion all you need is
 you site url and they
  do the rest for you.
 
  Paul
 
  On 19 Jan 2006, at 01:37, john coffey wrote:
 
   To Michael Verdi, Ryanne and Jay, your Freevlog
 is just such an
   immense help with getting my vlog up, almost...
 I've shot the stuff,
   encoded it, done a screen shot too! But Michaels
 example of uploading
   to Blogger is leaving me a little lost with
 uploading to Wordpress.
   Wordpress 2.0 has an image button but I cant
 seem to get a Quicktime
   embedded. Any help from the Vlog group would be
 so helpful to this
   Mac head!
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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread David Howell
How about the rebroadcasting of video? I see this time and time again
online where someone has captured something off the television, or
downloaded it from somewhere and then slapped it up on their website.

Case and point, http://www.palazzojay.blogspot.com/

The reason I am using this site as an example (there are tons of sites
similar to this one out there) is that these rebroadcasted videos are
all over Blip this morning. Now, the person that has that website
really isnt breaking a copyright law. Correct? Blip are the ones that
are actually hosting those videos. I assume that they must accept full
responsibility should a Saturday Night Live lawyer come look around.
Something tells me that SNL doesnt use a Creative Commons license with
regards to their old shows.

Of course, that could open a huge can of worms when it comes to people
using copyright music within their videos. Many people do it. I myself
have been guilty of using music I didnt own in a video. Blatant
rebroadcasting of a television program is another thing though.

Am I way off base here and is there some clause in a Blip
agreement/contract that releases them of all copyright infringments?

David
http://www.taoofdavid.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:35:58 +0100, Crystal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
  background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
  pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net.
  Republish on the net...so every can see it. But yet its mainly for
  Friends and Family
 
  is that breaking any laws?
 
  I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share
  it with people??
 
 When you buy a cd you buy a copy of the music for personal use. What
you  
 can and cannot do is governed by copyright law. Broadcasting the
music to  
 the world is not one of the things you can do. This is why I keep  
 repeating my mantra: Educate yourself. Buy a book or borrow one at the  
 library. Learn the law.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Good political videoblogs?

2006-01-19 Thread Joshua Seiden



I also like http://hoppervideo.net/, which is often (but not always) political.JS---http://more3.blogspot.com

Hi - I'm doing a meet the vloggers type thing in
Montreal - we
started a videoblogging group in December, and Tuesday is our second
meeting (at 7pm if there are any montreal readers...). I'm
wondering if anyone has suggestions for good activist/political
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[videoblogging] BroadSnatch - Podcasts, vlogs and media search

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Garfield
Just saw this.

http://www.broadsnatch.com/

Is it new?

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Re: [videoblogging] Voting For Your Favorite Video

2006-01-19 Thread David Meade
Depends on what sort of blogging tool.  If you use a system that can
create a poll, you could just give them some choices to vote on.

Otherwise, you could just do a simple what vlog is your favorite?
post and tally up the responses in the comments section.

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[videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Andy Carvin
Hi everyone,

I've been thinking about building my own camera stabilizer - a poor 
man's steadicam, so to speak - and I was wondering if anyone has tried 
it. I've found a few websites with instructions (or selling 
instructions), with varying levels of cost and complexity. Two of the 
more interesting ones are below.

The $14 Steadycam
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

The $14 Steadycam is very bare-bones, but the demo footage on the 
website is pretty good. The author of the page provides free 
instructions, and he'll even sell you a kit with all of the parts for 
$39 plus shipping. Here are two demos of it in action:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/soccer2.mov
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/girl3.mov

The instructions and kit look very straightforward, but one practical 
concern I have is the use of standard plumbing supplies, including pipes 
and pipe heads. These parts give it somewhat of a T-shaped pipe-bomb 
look, which could be a major headache if you plan to travel with your 
steadicam on an airplane.

Here's the other one:

Hocast Stabilizers
http://www.hocast.com/

Hocast seems more sophisticated, but more costly. They have three 
different models, ranging from a low-budget rig requiring $15 worth of 
supplies + $13 for the instructions, to a heavy-duty rig requiring $90 
of supplies +$22 for the instructions. Their video demos include 
before/after footage showing how a shot improves by adding the stabilizer:

http://www.hocast.com/Video/run.mov
http://www.hocast.com/Video/stairs.mov

(The clips are _very_ brief, though; frankly, I thought the $14 footage 
was better.)

I've found a few other offers online, but these two are the most 
intriguing. Has anyone tried building their own steadicam from these 
sites or others? Have you been happy with the results?

thanks,
andy

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[videoblogging] Re: BroadSnatch - Podcasts, vlogs and media search

2006-01-19 Thread Ms. Kitka
 http://www.broadsnatch.com/

The URL sounds like the wares of a warn out prostitute... ick.

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Re: [videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Quirk



I made the $14 one last spring, but I didn't build it right because I didn't have a vice at the time. It worked for a while, but the holes I drilled were off-center in the pipe caps, so it was off-balance and I eventually retired it and used the steel for other things.
I recommend it though, and if I ever have the need for one I'll definitely just buy a vice and make it again.I would recommend getting some handlebar grip tape, or even padded tennis racquet grip tape and applying it where you'll be touching the metal, because after a couple hours holding raw steel your hands start to hurt.
I built the longer configuration by the way, the one where you invert the attachment plate and so you can hold the camera close to the ground. I shot some cool footage of me running down the street with the camera 3 inches off the ground, but I don't know what happened to it.
AQOn 1/19/06, Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi everyone,

I've been thinking about building my own camera stabilizer - a poor 
man's steadicam, so to speak - and I was wondering if anyone has tried 
it. I've found a few websites with instructions (or selling 
instructions), with varying levels of cost and complexity. Two of the 
more interesting ones are below.

The $14 Steadycam
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

The $14 Steadycam is very bare-bones, but the demo footage on the 
website is pretty good. The author of the page provides free 
instructions, and he'll even sell you a kit with all of the parts for 
$39 plus shipping. Here are two demos of it in action:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/soccer2.mov
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/girl3.mov

The instructions and kit look very straightforward, but one practical 
concern I have is the use of standard plumbing supplies, including pipes 
and pipe heads. These parts give it somewhat of a T-shaped pipe-bomb 
look, which could be a major headache if you plan to travel with your 
steadicam on an airplane.

Here's the other one:

Hocast Stabilizers
http://www.hocast.com/

Hocast seems more sophisticated, but more costly. They have three 
different models, ranging from a low-budget rig requiring $15 worth of 
supplies + $13 for the instructions, to a heavy-duty rig requiring $90 
of supplies +$22 for the instructions. Their video demos include 
before/after footage showing how a shot improves by adding the stabilizer:

http://www.hocast.com/Video/run.mov
http://www.hocast.com/Video/stairs.mov

(The clips are _very_ brief, though; frankly, I thought the $14 footage 
was better.)

I've found a few other offers online, but these two are the most 
intriguing. Has anyone tried building their own steadicam from these 
sites or others? Have you been happy with the results?

thanks,
andy

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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Verdi



You can replace the Blogger template and then just republish the index page, leaving the archives intact.-VerdiOn 1/18/06, Jen Simmons 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Jan 18, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Josh Leo wrote:
what do other people think? is it better to redirect to the new site or is it better to have a block of text that reads this site has moved?I say leave all the permalink pages so that anyone who's returning to a
specific place in your old site (from a bookmark or from a link fromsomeone else's site) will still find the old content. And yes, modifythe template so the old site pages have a notice + link to the new home
page.But then also -- replace the index.htm home page with an empty redirectpage so that anyone who goes to your old home page (which is most ofyour traffic) will get automatically and elegantly sent to the new
site. You can create such a redirect index page without using Blogger-- giving you the opportunity to leave the Blogger template to do theabove description...ohwait. maybe you can't do this on blogspot... there's no way to manually
ftp a replacement index file over the blogger created index file, isthere...this would work if your blogger blog was on your own server.anyone have ideas about how to do this on blogspot?jen
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread LeanBackVids.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Take your ROI and CPM and chuck that out the window. We're living in
a world where that 
 starts to mean diddly squat. 
 
 I'll set a price, set the expectations, and the sponsor cay say yea
or nay...

Return on investment (ROI) will always have meaning, and cost per
thousand (CPM) is a benchmark to quantify the value of a
ad/sponsorship.  Setting a price without a quantitative justification
will not be accepted very well.  I can say I want $1000 per movie, but
how did I come to that number and what happens if traffic goes up or
down?  At what relative rate does the cost change?  CPM is a standard
pricing structure for advertising and most sponsors will be familar
with it.

As for the take it or leave it approach, that simply will not work.
 Sure I'd love to say you better recognize to a sponsor, but where
would that get me?  We need funding to continue to grow.  I can't
afford to shut doors in people's faces.

 Keep in mind in all this sponsorship talk, it doesn't have to be
some big-ol-honkin' 
 conglomerate... Go get free schwag from a local skate/surf shop or
something. Indie 
 people can advertise in indie media and it's still a little bit punk
rock.

I work in the industry and already get free schwag.  More importantly,
clothing and equiptment doesn't pay for hosting.

Maybe I have my head up my ass, but vlog watchers should be valueable
to sponsors (especially if they represent a niche market of mostly
young males).  Personally, I'd love to get local sponsorship to the
places we travel.  Then their business can be integrated into the
video somehow rather than the classic sponsored by logo at the
beginning and end. It would be even better to add an inteview w/ a biz
rep if they are in the industry.  Hell, that's like a full infomercial
for them and will probably be more accepted by viewers.  The last
thing we want to do is become a sell out, yet we're not afraid to
admit we're getting paid. It is a fine line.

Who knows if this will ever happen, but it sure beats the offers by
major networks looking to score free content for their new online
ventures.  Their offer?...  We'll provide you with more exposure. 
HA! Thanks, but no thanks -  that increase in exposure only increases
my costs.

Oh well.  If all else fails, at least I can add my vlogs to my resume
and hope it helps land my next job.  Too bad I'm happy w/ the job I got.

The reason I brought all this up is because I see the next 3-6 months
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: sony hdr-fx1

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Verdi



I'm not sure if I'm understanding this here but it looks like you're talking about posting a videoblog with a 1920 X 1080 resolution. Which makes me think how few people have a screen capable of displaying that.-Verdi
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Re: [videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Verdi



I don't have any experience with these but...If you are using a DV camera you can probably hold it steady enough if you practice. Try different grips - for example you can cradle the camera in your open palms like a basket. Then move the camera around like you're doing tai ci. With some practice, this works great and it's free and doesn't take up any space in your pack.
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I made the $14 one last spring, but I didn't build it right because I didn't have a vice at the time. It worked for a while, but the holes I drilled were off-center in the pipe caps, so it was off-balance and I eventually retired it and used the steel for other things.
I recommend it though, and if I ever have the need for one I'll definitely just buy a vice and make it again.I would recommend getting some handlebar grip tape, or even padded tennis racquet grip tape and applying it where you'll be touching the metal, because after a couple hours holding raw steel your hands start to hurt.
I built the longer configuration by the way, the one where you invert the attachment plate and so you can hold the camera close to the ground. I shot some cool footage of me running down the street with the camera 3 inches off the ground, but I don't know what happened to it.
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Hi everyone,

I've been thinking about building my own camera stabilizer - a poor 
man's steadicam, so to speak - and I was wondering if anyone has tried 
it. I've found a few websites with instructions (or selling 
instructions), with varying levels of cost and complexity. Two of the 
more interesting ones are below.

The $14 Steadycam
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

The $14 Steadycam is very bare-bones, but the demo footage on the 
website is pretty good. The author of the page provides free 
instructions, and he'll even sell you a kit with all of the parts for 
$39 plus shipping. Here are two demos of it in action:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/soccer2.mov
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/girl3.mov

The instructions and kit look very straightforward, but one practical 
concern I have is the use of standard plumbing supplies, including pipes 
and pipe heads. These parts give it somewhat of a T-shaped pipe-bomb 
look, which could be a major headache if you plan to travel with your 
steadicam on an airplane.

Here's the other one:

Hocast Stabilizers
http://www.hocast.com/

Hocast seems more sophisticated, but more costly. They have three 
different models, ranging from a low-budget rig requiring $15 worth of 
supplies + $13 for the instructions, to a heavy-duty rig requiring $90 
of supplies +$22 for the instructions. Their video demos include 
before/after footage showing how a shot improves by adding the stabilizer:

http://www.hocast.com/Video/run.mov
http://www.hocast.com/Video/stairs.mov

(The clips are _very_ brief, though; frankly, I thought the $14 footage 
was better.)

I've found a few other offers online, but these two are the most 
intriguing. Has anyone tried building their own steadicam from these 
sites or others? Have you been happy with the results?

thanks,
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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

2006-01-19 Thread Josh Leo



wouldnt altering the blogger template then alter the permalinks/archived posts? how could the .blogspot.com address forward to a new site but the permalinks not?On 1/19/06, 
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You can replace the Blogger template and then just republish the index page, leaving the archives intact.-VerdiOn 1/18/06, 
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what do other people think? is it better to redirect to the new site or is it better to have a block of text that reads this site has moved?I say leave all the permalink pages so that anyone who's returning to a
specific place in your old site (from a bookmark or from a link fromsomeone else's site) will still find the old content. And yes, modifythe template so the old site pages have a notice + link to the new home

page.But then also -- replace the index.htm home page with an empty redirectpage so that anyone who goes to your old home page (which is most ofyour traffic) will get automatically and elegantly sent to the new
site. You can create such a redirect index page without using Blogger-- giving you the opportunity to leave the Blogger template to do theabove description...ohwait. maybe you can't do this on blogspot... there's no way to manually
ftp a replacement index file over the blogger created index file, isthere...this would work if your blogger blog was on your own server.anyone have ideas about how to do this on blogspot?jen

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Re: [videoblogging] Freevlog to Wordpress instruction tweak???

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Verdi



- Yes - use Josh's pop-up thing. It rocks! - For quicktime embeds I had to turn off rich-text in WordPress 2. - Also, please people, go read the YouTube terms of service! I would never in a million years recommend them.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread Pete Prodoehl
� wrote:
 I do strongly advise you slowly move your workflow into a completely
 podsafe arena...
 
 I've recently registered as a podcaster with podsafe music network and
 used one song in a vlog entry.
 
 Reading the above statement made me wonder what the artists terms on
 pmn specify so here is a c/p of
 http://music.podshow.com/music/artistTerms.htm :
[snip]
 Listener does suggest that the intent is for the music to be used in
 an audio recording


The Podsafe terms are definitely aimed at audio, not video.

Contrast that with Magnatune, which took my suggestions and added in a 
bit for videobloggers:

   http://magnatune.com/artists/license/podcast

   Video blogs can put a credit at the end of their video of
   the form The song 'song name' by 'artist name' used by
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Maganatune gets it when it comes to licensing music.



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[videoblogging] Re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread LeanBackVids.com
Not sure if this was mentioned in the thread or the series of links
posted, but a soda pop bottle is probably the cheapest steady cam...
and it actually works!

Go out and grab yourself a 1-liter plastic bottle of your favorite
drink.  Guzzle it down and fill it 1/4 to 1/2 full with water.  Drill
a hole in the cap, insert a washer on the inside and slide a bolt
through (make sure to get the right size/thread for your cam).  Then
tighten a nut down to the outside and screw the cap back on the
bottle.  Screw the wacky contraption into the bottom of your cam and
you're all set.

It lowers the center of gravity, which is a huge help... and the added
extra weight is easier to keep steady than a light handheld.  It also
does a great job at making you look funny.

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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

2006-01-19 Thread David Meade






You can replace the Blogger template and then just republish the index page, leaving the archives intact.-VerdiYup, I just tested it on my blogspot (which I dont use for anything).Adding the meta-refresh to the head and republish ONLY the index, would do the trick it seems.



  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Garfield
I built this one if you want o come over and borrow it.

On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Andy Carvin wrote:

 The $14 Steadycam
 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

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[videoblogging] Re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Andy Carvin
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I built this one if you want o come over and borrow it.
 
 On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Andy Carvin wrote:
 
  The $14 Steadycam
  http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/
 
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Thanks, Steve; I may take you up on that just to test it out. I don't
have any immediate plans for needing one, but was thinking about
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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

2006-01-19 Thread David Meade
Sure:

Here is my blogspot url:
http://davemeade.blogspot.com/

And here is an archive post there that does not redirect:
http://davemeade.blogspot.com/2005/12/test-post.html

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  got url's for me to look at?


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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

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freaking awesome! it is like everything I wanted and more! now when the time comes to actually switch over, I know who to come talk to! thanks david!On 1/19/06, 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Sullivan



true, true.Eric was definately speaking from his 'personal' perspective and since he is more of a rare breed and one that can and will brand himself as a vehicle for marketing other brands it wont jive with someone like you and prob most vloggers right now.
but, its great to read Eric's angle on such things and he always remarks that it IS his personal experience according to the path he is on. I think that your numbers, matt, seem fair. admittedly, i have not done extensive research on this since the first net boom but i appreciate your insight and estimation something we can all consider for our projects.
sullOn 1/19/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take your ROI and CPM and chuck that out the window. We're living in
a world where that starts to mean diddly squat. I'll set a price, set the expectations, and the sponsor cay say yeaor nay...Return on investment (ROI) will always have meaning, and cost per
thousand (CPM) is a benchmark to quantify the value of aad/sponsorship.Setting a price without a quantitative justificationwill not be accepted very well.I can say I want $1000 per movie, buthow did I come to that number and what happens if traffic goes up or
down?At what relative rate does the cost change?CPM is a standardpricing structure for advertising and most sponsors will be familarwith it.As for the take it or leave it approach, that simply will not work.
 Sure I'd love to say you better recognize to a sponsor, but wherewould that get me?We need funding to continue to grow.I can'tafford to shut doors in people's faces. Keep in mind in all this sponsorship talk, it doesn't have to be
some big-ol-honkin' conglomerate... Go get free schwag from a local skate/surf shop orsomething. Indie people can advertise in indie media and it's still a little bit punkrock.I work in the industry and already get free schwag.More importantly,
clothing and equiptment doesn't pay for hosting.Maybe I have my head up my ass, but vlog watchers should be valueableto sponsors (especially if they represent a niche market of mostlyyoung males).Personally, I'd love to get local sponsorship to the
places we travel.Then their business can be integrated into thevideo somehow rather than the classic sponsored by logo at thebeginning and end. It would be even better to add an inteview w/ a bizrep if they are in the industry.Hell, that's like a full infomercial
for them and will probably be more accepted by viewers.The lastthing we want to do is become a sell out, yet we're not afraid toadmit we're getting paid. It is a fine line.Who knows if this will ever happen, but it sure beats the offers by
major networks looking to score free content for their new onlineventures.Their offer?...We'll provide you with more exposure.HA! Thanks, but no thanks -that increase in exposure only increases
my costs.Oh well.If all else fails, at least I can add my vlogs to my resumeand hope it helps land my next job.Too bad I'm happy w/ the job I got.The reason I brought all this up is because I see the next 3-6 months
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Re: [videoblogging] Copyrights and the artist's right to control their work

2006-01-19 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Richard BF wrote:
 people like Lawrence Lessig and Creative Commons are 
 trying to fix it. You should also visit their site, and read about 
 what they're trying to do to protect culture and your rights.
 http://creativecommons.org/
 
 Rights are good for you. My videoblog works are all Creative Commons, 
 attribution non-commercial sharealike. I have the right to allow you 
 to do whetever you like with my stuff, so long as you credit me as 
 the creator, share your works with the same allowances, and don't 
 make money off using it. I like having that right.

I'm a big fan of Creative Commons, and also like to promote it's use 
when possible. On my site, I've added a 'usage' page that goes into details:

   http://tinkernet.org/usage/

I tried to specify what my thoughts are on Attribution, Non-Commercial 
use and the Share Alike terms a bit more, because what I consider to be 
non-commercial might not be what others consider to be 
non-commercial and as I understand it, as the artist you are supposed 
to specify things like how you want the Attribution to occur, etc..

Just trying to help build the lightnet. :)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyrights and the artist's right to control their work

2006-01-19 Thread Pete Prodoehl
gmjoyce_y wrote:
 Very good post, Richard. Nicely balanced. 
 
 I know you're not a lawyer but can you (or anyone else who wants to
 take a crack at it) tell me if I've got this right?  
 
 Saturday Night Live or The Daily Show can show clips from TV shows 
 because they're commending on or parodying the content of those clips.  
 So comment or satire makes these copyrighted clips fair game, is that
 right?
 
 And if SNL and Jon Stewart can do it, can't vloggers do likewise?

There is one difference though, NBC and Comedy Central have lawyers, 
lots of lawyers...

As I've said before, I don't want to be the one to test this stuff out 
in court. If you do, then feel free to do what you want, and let us know 
if they rule in your favor. :)

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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Carl Weaver
Jen, this isn't quite accurate. There are provisions for fair use and these
govern a couple things, such as what the video is being used for and how long
the video clip is that you want to copy. I am not an attorney but I used to work
in the copyright world, securing permission to reprint material. take what I am
about to say with the knowledge that I am more of an expert than many people but
certainly not an attorney.

Saying you can tape CNN off the TV and then rebroadcast it for free is like
saying you can photocopy John Grisham's new book and reprint it. It doesn't work
like that as a blanket thing. Again, for some cases you can use short snippets
but for the most part no. Charity or not. Profits, revenues, nonprofits and
charities have no sway in this matter for the most part.

And who is in the video doesn't have anything to do with it. The copyright is
owned by the person or company that created the piece. Just like the copyright
of a portrait I shoot as a photographer is owned by me, not the person I
photographed. I may give someone else permission to use the picture or not. But
if you decide to republish it without permission, we have a problem. There are
also all sorts of legalities involved with whether I have permission from the
person to use their likeness and image for certain purposes, but that person
does not own the copyright to the image without my assigning it to them.

All that being said, my philosophy is to use other sources sparingly, sometimes
treading to the other side of the legal line. However, if called out for it, I
will modify my videos to appease copyright holders. the quality of my
productions make it obvious that I am not making any money and I am not saying
anything bad about the copyright holders, so most would have no problem.
However, I do not have the right to use someone else's work simply because I
want to or because I think I should have the right.

So you are right in that we shouldn't censor ourselves, but it's good to know
what is covered by fair use, especially when doing videos professionally. If you
want the straight poop, consult an attorney.

Just my two cents. And then some.

Carl
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From: Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: legal rights of copyrighted material
 
 On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:47 PM, nikadigital wrote:
 
  it doesn't matter
   if you are making money or doing this for charity. you must secure
   clearance.
 
 This just isn't true. There are many times when you can use material  
 that is owned by others without their permission. I can do a story  
 about Home Depot, for example, use their logo, film in front of their  
 store and talk all about them without their permission. Maybe I'm  
 uncovering bad practices, and of course they might want to stop me, but  
 they can't. I can create a piece about Bush, using footage of Bush,  
 without his permission -- I can even take that footage from CNN, right  
 off the tv, without CNN's permission (I did this...  
 http://www.bushforpeace.us and distributed the piece all over).
 
 It's called FAIR USE, and there are many many times people can use  
 footage created or owned by others, images and trademarks and public  
 appearances and such.
 
 SO PLEASE -- let's not censor ourselves, or scare each other into not  
 doing some great work out of a misunderstanding of what we can and  
 can't do legally.
 
 We all have a lot more in the way of rights than people are exercising  
 in this lawsuit-fearful / pro-corporate-rights and  
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread cooper3acd
Wow - that's awesome!

I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those kind 
of cpms because you're so current and it in regards to online 
video (it in a very good way).

You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are 
positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that 
go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not 
achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning, 
product and reach.

Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to maintain 
your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards. 

Cheers,
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 We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
 
 On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
 
  So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
 
  $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
  sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports 
website
  and am going by what they charge for various video advertising.  
And
  the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
 
  The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship 
would
  be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie 
does.
 
  Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded 
10,000
  times in the first month and 2,000 times each month 
thereafter... that
  would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for 
the
  first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
 
  Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the 
video
  gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the 
sponsor
   only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and 
another $250
  for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500 
sponsorship per
  video. (Up-front payment of course.)
 
  Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel about 
this.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Podsafe Music

2006-01-19 Thread Pete Prodoehl
LeanBackVids.com wrote:
 Other than these, where else is a good place to get podsafe music?

This question comes up every now and then, so I created a wiki page for it:

   http://voxmedia.org/w/index.php/Videoblogging_Music

Please add other sites or information to it so we can easily point 
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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

2006-01-19 Thread David Meade
My pleasure, but Verdi was the one who posted the republish index
only thing ... I only made a demo :-)

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  Here is my blogspot url:
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  And here is an archive post there that does not redirect:
  http://davemeade.blogspot.com/2005/12/test-post.html
 
  On 1/19/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
got url's for me to look at?
  
  
   On 1/19/06, David Meade  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 You can replace the Blogger template and then just republish the
 index
   page, leaving the archives intact.
-Verdi
   
Yup, I just tested it on my blogspot (which I dont use for anything).
   
Adding the meta-refresh to the head and republish ONLY the index,
 would do
   the trick it seems.
   
   
   

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyrights and the artist's right to control their work

2006-01-19 Thread David Meade
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 There is one difference though, NBC and Comedy Central have lawyers,
 lots of lawyers...

well that doesn't make their use more just ... it only means they have
greater means to prove they are are just in their use. :-)   (but I
know what you mean, I don't want to be the one that has to shell out
the $$ in order to set precedent)

The grey areas are a scary place to be ... but its your USE that
should scare you not the fact that you are an individual and not a
giant corporation.   The day the supreme court rules that this law
only protects 'corporate entities' is a day I move to some other
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[videoblogging] re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Carl Weaver
I made the $14 one from those same directions. I encountered two real problems.

1. As Adam said, it is hard to drill the holes dead-center unless you have a
vice. In fact, I would recommend a drill press as well. The casting lines in the
end caps threw off my drilling accuracy.

2. The guy at Home Depot thought I was making a bomb and freaked out a little
when I asked him which type of bit I would need to drill through a steel pipe
cap. I reassured him by saying that these are small pipes and certainly couldn't
blow anything up. Of course, that's not true but I didn't end up in Guantanamo
or anything, thank goodness.

It's a little unwieldy but it's great for movement shots. If you want to steady
a shaky hand for a still shot, it's not as good.

Have fun and don't go buying a bunch of explosives or other nitrogen-rich stuff
when you buy the parts for your steady cam thing.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread Brett Gaylor




can
rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that --
a promotional tool / ad. View Askew wants them to spread as far as possible.
yet technically still illegal. It would be unwise to spread the
idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're promoting
them. Generally it would not be the artist themself who went
after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the
same). So - even though you may love a song, and you
include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it.

Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) . It could be construed
that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not
allowed under copyright law. What if, down the line, you do end
up making a profit from your work?

Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue.
brett
IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL

ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than
songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical
rights, record companies, etc).

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 Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't
 they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino?

We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Canadian TV cocerage of vlogs?

2006-01-19 Thread Brett Gaylor



Wow... that show theme description sounds SO dodgy... with the themes
of pornography and favorite sex positions?Give me a break...Kitka

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Devlon



In a pinch a collapsed tripod does the samebut doesn't quench the thirst ;)On 1/19/06, LeanBackVids.com 
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Not sure if this was mentioned in the thread or the series of links
posted, but a soda pop bottle is probably the cheapest steady cam...
and it actually works!

Go out and grab yourself a 1-liter plastic bottle of your favorite
drink. Guzzle it down and fill it 1/4 to 1/2 full with water. Drill
a hole in the cap, insert a washer on the inside and slide a bolt
through (make sure to get the right size/thread for your cam). Then
tighten a nut down to the outside and screw the cap back on the
bottle. Screw the wacky contraption into the bottom of your cam and
you're all set.

It lowers the center of gravity, which is a huge help... and the added
extra weight is easier to keep steady than a light handheld. It also
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Canadian TV cocerage of vlogs?

2006-01-19 Thread Devlon
Vlogasutra, I'd subscribe.

On 1/19/06, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wow... that show theme description sounds SO dodgy... with the themes

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Re: [videoblogging] re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Garfield
I bought the cap with pre drilled holes...

On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Carl Weaver wrote:

 1. As Adam said, it is hard to drill the holes dead-center unless you 
 have a
 vice. In fact, I would recommend a drill press as well. The casting 
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[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread Ms. Kitka
Look people... I've used short clips of video and music under Fair Use
and have not infringed on anyone's copyrights.  All clips (and notice
I use the word 'clips' because I have never used someone else's work
in full, only in part under Fair Use) are used for news and criticism.

Go here for the Coles notes version -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Thank you and goodnight... [Elvis has left the building]
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  can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly
just that
  -- a promotional tool / ad.  View Askew wants them to spread as far as
  possible.
 
 
 yet technically still illegal.  It would be unwise to spread the idea
 (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're promoting them.
 Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you -
it would
 be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same).  So  -
even though
 you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation
still
 might take issue with it.
 
 Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) .  It could be construed
that you
 are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under
 copyright law.  What if, down the line, you do end up making a
profit from
 your work?
 
 Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we
 should be giving advice thats untrue.
 brett
  IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL
 
 ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than
songs -
 there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights,
record
 companies, etc).
 
 
 
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Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this?  Wouldn't
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Frank Carver
Thursday, January 19, 2006, 6:42:30 PM, Devlon wrote:

 In a pinch a collapsed tripod does the samebut doesn't quench the thirst
 ;)

Which brings up the question: does anyone know of any good ideas for
some way of steadying a camera without a tripod screw (like a lot of
small digital cameras which happen to do video)?

An unstabilised video can end up a bit unpleasant:

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[videoblogging] Murderball Trailer/Team torino blog

2006-01-19 Thread stateofgraceproductions
Hey everyone!  Please check out the Murderball Trailer and the Team
Torino Blog.  Both are great Thanks!

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:56:45 +0100, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Look people... I've used short clips of video and music under Fair Use
 and have not infringed on anyone's copyrights.  All clips (and notice
 I use the word 'clips' because I have never used someone else's work
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Just to clarify (I haven't seen your videoblog). Works have to be the  
subject of the news or criticism to be considered fair use. E.g.  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread Devlon



I don't think I've seen the episode with the Clerks2 reference but in
past episodes, uses of other peoples work has been used in reference to
news or critisism, no different than rocketboom's usage.On 1/19/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:56:45 +0100, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Look people... I've used short clips of video and music under Fair Use
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Downloader

2006-01-19 Thread WWWhatsup
I've submitted staight-outta-QT7 h.264 and had it accepted before now.

Have you tried it?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread andrew michael baron
We are going to try something fun with advertising on Monday, if all  
goes well, and by then I'll have our little spiel set up to justify  
such a high CPM value. I'll send in the news then.


On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:58 AM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Take your ROI and CPM and chuck that out the window. We're living in
 a world where that
 starts to mean diddly squat.

 I'll set a price, set the expectations, and the sponsor cay say yea
 or nay...

 Return on investment (ROI) will always have meaning, and cost per
 thousand (CPM) is a benchmark to quantify the value of a
 ad/sponsorship.  Setting a price without a quantitative justification
 will not be accepted very well.  I can say I want $1000 per movie, but
 how did I come to that number and what happens if traffic goes up or
 down?  At what relative rate does the cost change?  CPM is a standard
 pricing structure for advertising and most sponsors will be familar
 with it.

 As for the take it or leave it approach, that simply will not work.
  Sure I'd love to say you better recognize to a sponsor, but where
 would that get me?  We need funding to continue to grow.  I can't
 afford to shut doors in people's faces.

 Keep in mind in all this sponsorship talk, it doesn't have to be
 some big-ol-honkin'
 conglomerate... Go get free schwag from a local skate/surf shop or
 something. Indie
 people can advertise in indie media and it's still a little bit punk
 rock.

 I work in the industry and already get free schwag.  More importantly,
 clothing and equiptment doesn't pay for hosting.

 Maybe I have my head up my ass, but vlog watchers should be valueable
 to sponsors (especially if they represent a niche market of mostly
 young males).  Personally, I'd love to get local sponsorship to the
 places we travel.  Then their business can be integrated into the
 video somehow rather than the classic sponsored by logo at the
 beginning and end. It would be even better to add an inteview w/ a biz
 rep if they are in the industry.  Hell, that's like a full infomercial
 for them and will probably be more accepted by viewers.  The last
 thing we want to do is become a sell out, yet we're not afraid to
 admit we're getting paid. It is a fine line.

 Who knows if this will ever happen, but it sure beats the offers by
 major networks looking to score free content for their new online
 ventures.  Their offer?...  We'll provide you with more exposure.
 HA! Thanks, but no thanks -  that increase in exposure only increases
 my costs.

 Oh well.  If all else fails, at least I can add my vlogs to my resume
 and hope it helps land my next job.  Too bad I'm happy w/ the job I  
 got.

 The reason I brought all this up is because I see the next 3-6 months
 as being a critical point in the vlogging world.  It feels do or  
 die time.

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[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Downloader

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Watkins
That stuff from Google about preferred format is probably not as
absolute as some people think. It can probably handle other formats
jsut fine, or maybe slightly slowe. The mp3 advice may even be out of
date as Google seem to have changed their system quite a lot since the
first google beta service launched.

Steve of Elbows

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 I've submitted staight-outta-QT7 h.264 and had it accepted before now.
 
 Have you tried it?
 
 joly
 
 
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  features including the ability to download PSP and iPod compatible 
  formats. No rss feeds yet though. 
  
  Now this has come up before, if one wants to submit video to google 
  you have to convert your vid into one of their prefered formats. If 
  you are a Mac user the easiest would be to submit a MOV file. But
the 
  problem is that they want your audio to be encoded as MP3. 
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Bill Streeter
I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet
video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, cooper3acd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow - that's awesome!
 
 I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those kind 
 of cpms because you're so current and it in regards to online 
 video (it in a very good way).
 
 You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are 
 positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that 
 go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not 
 achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning, 
 product and reach.
 
 Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to maintain 
 your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards. 
 
 Cheers,
 Rob
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
  
  On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
  
   So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
  
   $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
   sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports 
 website
   and am going by what they charge for various video advertising.  
 And
   the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
  
   The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship 
 would
   be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie 
 does.
  
   Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded 
 10,000
   times in the first month and 2,000 times each month 
 thereafter... that
   would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for 
 the
   first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
  
   Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the 
 video
   gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the 
 sponsor
only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and 
 another $250
   for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500 
 sponsorship per
   video. (Up-front payment of course.)
  
   Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel about 
 this.
  
   -Matt
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[videoblogging] Re: sony hdr-fx1

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Watkins
I agree. The most I would ever aim for at the moment is 720P, which is
1280x720 which seems to be what nikadigital was trying. I dont know
why that didnt work, as its also 16:9 so it should really have
distorted anything.

I dont know what the situation is like in the USA, but here in the UK
a range of 720P flatscreen TVs are starting to get affordable, and so
I expect that resolution will start to get popular for some people,
though its still overkill for many people at the moment.

Even 960x540, which most people have the display resolution to show, 
doesnt tend to perform so well in a web browser, so if the intended
target is embedded browser viewing I reluctantly advise something even
smaller like 480x270 at this point in time. For downloadable version
there will be some people who would like a higher res than that
though, and that brings me back to 720P.   


Yeah so this problem with your stuff being squashed or stretched, I
dont know what the problem is. My previous advise was to make sure
that encoding software wasnt misinterpreting the aspect ratio of your
footage, by getting confused about it being 1440 pixels rather than
1920. Maybe someone who actually uses windows media stuff could have a
better idea, but I dont know how many people on this list are doing
such things witht hat camera or any other HDV camera that uses 1080i.

Steve of Elbows

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 I'm not sure if I'm understanding this here but it looks like you're
talking
 about posting a videoblog with a 1920 X 1080 resolution. Which makes me
 think how few people have a screen capable of displaying that.
 -Verdi
 
 
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[videoblogging] Sundance

2006-01-19 Thread Josh Leo



You all know that fellow video-blogger Brian Gonzalez http://gnitseretni.blogspot.com/ (a studnet of Michael Verdi) is attending the Sundance Film Festival because the film for which he was the director of photography for was selected to be in the running right?
Pretty cool...maybe he will spread the love to all those other indie filmmakers and get them to release their stuff in vlog-form... or at least make a vlog like Four Eyed Monsters ( 
http://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/ )way to go Brian!-- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread andrew michael baron


The section of the clip from the clerks2 crit that we used, did not have any music in it.On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Brett Gaylor wrote:  can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that -- a promotional tool / ad.  View Askew wants them to spread as far as possible. yet technically still illegal.  It would be unwise to spread the idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're "promoting" them.  Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same).  So  - even though you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it.  Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) .  It could be construed that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under copyright law.  What if, down the line, you do end up making a profit from your work?  Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue. brett  IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL  ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights, record companies, etc).   On 1/18/06,  andrew michael baron  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:   Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this?  Wouldn't  they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino?  We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under   the guidelines of fair use.  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.     To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service .YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.     To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS  Individual  Fireant  Use  Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 

  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread LeanBackVids.com
THANKS!  That is a great article.

I used the BugMeNot extension for Firefox to avoid registering...
http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/

-Matt
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http://leanbackvids.com
http://ridertech.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet
 video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, cooper3acd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Wow - that's awesome!
  
  I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those kind 
  of cpms because you're so current and it in regards to online 
  video (it in a very good way).
  
  You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are 
  positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that 
  go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not 
  achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning, 
  product and reach.
  
  Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to maintain 
  your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards. 
  
  Cheers,
  Rob
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
   
   On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
   
So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
   
$25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports 
  website
and am going by what they charge for various video advertising.  
  And
the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
   
The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship 
  would
be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie 
  does.
   
Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded 
  10,000
times in the first month and 2,000 times each month 
  thereafter... that
would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for 
  the
first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
   
Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the 
  video
gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the 
  sponsor
 only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and 
  another $250
for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500 
  sponsorship per
video. (Up-front payment of course.)
   
Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel about 
  this.
   
-Matt
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Re: [videoblogging] Sundance

2006-01-19 Thread Ted Tagami
That's great news indeed. I really like Brian's choice of quotes on
his Blogger page:

The film of tomorrow will not be directed by civil servants of the
camera, but by artists for whom shooting a film constitutes a
wonderful and thirlling adventure...it will be enjoyable because it
will be true and new...the film of tomorrow will be an act of love.
-Francois Truffaut

Congratulations and good luck, Brian.



On 1/19/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You all know that fellow video-blogger Brian Gonzalez
 http://gnitseretni.blogspot.com/ (a studnet of Michael
 Verdi) is attending the Sundance Film Festival because the film for which he
 was the director of photography for was selected to be in the running right?

 Pretty cool...maybe he will spread the love to all those other indie
 filmmakers and get them to release their stuff in vlog-form... or at least
 make a vlog like Four Eyed Monsters (
 http://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/ )

 way to go Brian!

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Ted Tagami
either that or search for the google cached story:

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:Pl-QvRSEENUJ:www.tvweek.com/article.cms%3FarticleId%3D28995+ipod+muddles+the+financial+watershl=en

On 1/19/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  THANKS!  That is a great article.

  I used the BugMeNot extension for Firefox to avoid registering...
  http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/

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  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
   I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet
   video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, cooper3acd
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Wow - that's awesome!
   
I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those kind
of cpms because you're so current and it in regards to online
video (it in a very good way).
   
You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are
positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that
go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not
achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning,
product and reach.
   
Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to maintain
your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards.
   
Cheers,
Rob
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.

 On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:

  So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
 
  $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
  sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports
website
  and am going by what they charge for various video advertising.
And
  the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
 
  The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship
would
  be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie
does.
 
  Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded
10,000
  times in the first month and 2,000 times each month
thereafter... that
  would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for
the
  first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
 
  Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the
video
  gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the
sponsor
   only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and
another $250
  for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500
sponsorship per
  video. (Up-front payment of course.)
 
  Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel about
this.
 
  -Matt
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  http://leanbackvids.com
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Ms. Kitka
Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
heard of.  I'd better go check it out.

Kitka


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 THANKS!  That is a great article.
 
 I used the BugMeNot extension for Firefox to avoid registering...
 http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/
 
 -Matt
 ---
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 http://leanbackvids.com
 http://ridertech.com
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet
  video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, cooper3acd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Wow - that's awesome!
   
   I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those
kind 
   of cpms because you're so current and it in regards to online 
   video (it in a very good way).
   
   You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are 
   positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that 
   go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not 
   achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning, 
   product and reach.
   
   Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to
maintain 
   your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards. 
   
   Cheers,
   Rob
   
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.

On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:

 So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...

 $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
 sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports 
   website
 and am going by what they charge for various video
advertising.  
   And
 the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)

 The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship 
   would
 be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie 
   does.

 Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded 
   10,000
 times in the first month and 2,000 times each month 
   thereafter... that
 would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for 
   the
 first month and $50 for each month afterwards.

 Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the 
   video
 gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the 
   sponsor
  only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and 
   another $250
 for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500 
   sponsorship per
 video. (Up-front payment of course.)

 Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel
about 
   this.

 -Matt
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Jen Simmons
On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Crystal wrote:

 Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with 
 background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the 
 pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net. 
 Republish on the net...so every can see it. But yet its mainly for 
 Friends and Family

 is that breaking any laws?

 I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share 
 it with people??

The answer: no one knows yet.
The laws regarding use of copyrighted works were written to be intentionally vague. The plan was for the law to have a large grey area so a judge could decide on a case-by-case basis what's right and what's not. The world has changed a lot, very quickly, however, and this new world we live in is, well, new! What does it mean for a ''regular person to make a movie using protected work and put it on the internet for a handful people to see?? I don't think a case like that has ever come before a court for a decision, and since the laws passed by legislators and previous court cases don't deal with this issue, then there is no law about it yet. 

Meanwhile not only has the internet changed broadcasting, and computers have broken-down barriers to entry to creating films and media... but also corporations have taken over more and more, buying up the rights to more and more. 

Really I think there are two issues here: 
what is legal, and
what is respectful.

I see no need to respect the copyright on Happy Birthday (which was owned by AOL/Time Warner... who's got it now?) If you are making a feature film to distribute in theaters, you have to buy the rights to use the song -- and it's incredibly expensive. The song was written in 1893 by Mildred and Patty Hill, with different words, and so the artists are long gone. AOL Time Warner is just using the legal system and their power to make as much money as possible without regard to what the song means to us as a culture. So... if I get together with friends and sing happy birthday in a restaurant, I'm not going to worry about paying a fee for a public performance of a song. That's totally ridiculous. If we videotape the moment, and I post it to my videoblog, I am also not going to worry about it. Of course, I don't want the wrath of AOL Time Warner lawyers upon me... I make less than $20k a year, how in the world could I afford to defend myself in a lawsuit BUT A HA! I am not alone. I'm sure if I got a seizt and desist letter from AOL, I could contact American University and all these non-profits working on fair use and they would jump on the case, donating their services and taking care of the thing for me. It would be a great case to see happen, and could mean breaking the hold of these ridiculous money-grabbers!!

Meanwhile, at the same time, there are many examples where it's grey as to whether or not I have to get permission to use someone else's work, but I decide I want to, because it's the right thing to do -- it's the respectful thing to do. I can use my own judgment, and not worry about the law. If a local band is selling their first album, it's great exposure for them if I use their song in my videoblog. I'd make sure I credit them, and link to their band website where people can find out where they are playing and buy their album. If I knew them, I'd probably let them know / ask them if it's okay. But for me, if I didn't know them and didn't have time / felt too shy to find them, I'd use their music anyway. It is great exposure for them -- if Good Morning America wanted to do a spot on them, crediting them, but without paying them, I'm sure they'd be thrilled!!! 

If however, I had some project going where I was going to make money -- like I'm selling videos, and I take their music, and especially don't credit them, but rather take advantage of a situation and even try to pass off their art as my own -- well then I'm doing something wrong. I say if it feels like stealing, then don't do it!! Even if you could fight off a lawsuit and win. It's still wrong.

But to your original question -- does every home-movie maker who wants to use a mainstream song off a CD for their photo slide show or movie of their kids have to worry about copyright violation?? I say no. Apply created iPhoto and iMovie to let people do this very easily, and did demonstrations of this very kind of project, and no one said, hey you have to get Madonna's permission to use her song with those pictures of your dog. I think publishing the movie to the web is just a step further... and still should be allowed.

Again, there is no law drawing the line in the digital sand. And every record label (all 5 of them) will probably have a different policy about what to do about this. There may be some band or some label that eventually decides to do something about this and sue. But I say, bring it on -- what happened to freedom?? We have to defend our rights if we have any hope of keeping any.

jen




Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Ms. Kitka wrote:
 Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
 there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
 heard of.  I'd better go check it out.

Not familiar with the work of Leo Laporte I guess? :)

He's a smart (and likable) guy, who has been around forever, written 
books, done radio, television, blogging, podcasting, etc... Leo *is* a 
brand.


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[videoblogging] question about shameless self promotion...

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Schaap
I remember Steve Garfield mentioning once another yahoo group (?) or place for 
shameless 
self promotion...  Can't seem to find this spot. Does it excist? Is it any 
good? (I guess not, 
since I can't find it...) And how about the shameless self promotion in this 
group? Is it 
appreciated / accepted? To be honest; I'm sometimes fed up with Pjk productions 
- It's 
worth a laugh and work friendly  - yawn


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[videoblogging] $9200 movie @ sundance

2006-01-19 Thread Digital Buddha
Nice story on Wired about Robert Ingraham's DV shot and G4 edited
movie Moonshine, which is premiering at Sundance...

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Sullivan



Laporte has been a TV personality for years. 
already has an established fan base etc...On 1/19/06, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.I can't believe someone's outthere getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've neverheard of.I'd better go check it out.Kitka--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THANKS!That is a great article. I used the BugMeNot extension for Firefox to avoid registering...
 http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/ -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org
 http://leanbackvids.com http://ridertech.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet  video: 
http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, cooper3acd  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... wrote: Wow - that's awesome! I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting thosekind   of cpms because you're so current and it in regards to online
   video (it in a very good way). You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are   positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that
   go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not   achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning,   product and reach.  
   Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and tomaintain   your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards. Cheers,   Rob
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
   On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
 $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video sponsorships.(Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports   website and am going by what they charge for various video
advertising.   And the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.) The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship
   would be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie   does. Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded
   10,000 times in the first month and 2,000 times each month   thereafter... that would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for
   the first month and $50 for each month afterwards. Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the
   video gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.So maybe the   sponsoronly is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and
   another $250 for the remaining 5 months...Bring the total to $500   sponsorship per video. (Up-front payment of course.)
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread LeanBackVids.com
And TechTV's The Screen Savers had (and still has) a cult following.
 A big reason Digg.com got so big so fast was because Kevin Rose was
the Dark Tipper on the show.  Leo, Kevin and Patrick have all moved
on sucessfully due to the now-cancelled TV show.  Leo is well liked by
regular computer users and Kevin is big among the Linux/UNIX/hacker
geeks.

-Matt


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ms. Kitka wrote:
  Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
  there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
  heard of.  I'd better go check it out.
 
 Not familiar with the work of Leo Laporte I guess? :)
 
 He's a smart (and likable) guy, who has been around forever, written 
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[videoblogging] Re: my grandchild

2006-01-19 Thread Susan
Very cute :) 

And I see she has the new icon for a feed--the square thingy.  Neat!
  I'll have to subscribe when I get home (shh--I'm at work)

Susan
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home video
 videoblogger, perhaps worse than cat movies ... I will lose all my
hard won
 credibility  oh, yeah, now I remember, I lost that a long time
ago ...
 what a relief
 
 Check out my adorable, perfect, grand child on my daughter's new vlog
 

http://ravenesse.blogspot.com/2006/01/great-deception-watch-video-looks-can.html
 
 
 ... I just hope I live long enought to see the day when you other
 videobloggers have grand children ... my mother used to say that,
and she
 did ... you'll find yourself doing stuff like posting notes like
this to the
 video blog list ...
 
 ... and leaving a comment on the video wouldn't kill you either ...
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Ms. Kitka
Remember guys, I'm Canadian... I never even heard of Adam Curry until
I was mentioned on his show a few months ago... I thought he was
related to Tim Curry or something.

I didn't really get into videoblogging because I saw it and wanted to
do it, I just did it... only now am I learning more about the community.

Kitka


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Laporte has been a TV personality for years.
 already has an established fan base etc...
 
 On 1/19/06, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
  there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
  heard of.  I'd better go check it out.
 
  Kitka
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   THANKS!  That is a great article.
  
   I used the BugMeNot extension for Firefox to avoid registering...
   http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/
  
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   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter
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I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported
internet
video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, cooper3acd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow - that's awesome!

 I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those
  kind
 of cpms because you're so current and it in regards to online
 video (it in a very good way).

 You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement
there are
 positive branding implications for companies that sponsor
you that
 go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not
 achievable for publishers who do not have your current
positioning,
 product and reach.

 Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to
  maintain
 your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards.

 Cheers,
 Rob

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
 
  On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
 
   So all this legal talk about music brings me back to
sponsors...
  
   $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
   sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major
sports
 website
   and am going by what they charge for various video
  advertising.
 And
   the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
  
   The big difference with RSS-based media is that the
sponsorship
 would
   be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the
movie
 does.
  
   Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets
downloaded
 10,000
   times in the first month and 2,000 times each month
 thereafter... that
   would make the value of a single video sponsorship at
$250 for
 the
   first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
  
   Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers
since the
 video
   gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So
maybe the
 sponsor
only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and
 another $250
   for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500
 sponsorship per
   video. (Up-front payment of course.)
  
   Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel
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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Ms. Kitka
People... THIS is why you never hear any new music being played by
crew members on Star Trek...



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Crystal wrote:
 
   Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
   background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
   pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net.
   Republish on the net...so every can see it. But yet its mainly for
   Friends and Family
 
   is that breaking any laws?
 
   I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share
   it with people??
 
 The answer: no one knows yet.
 The laws regarding use of copyrighted works were written to be 
 intentionally vague. The plan was for the law to have a large grey area 
 so a judge could decide on a case-by-case basis what's right and what's 
 not. The world has changed a lot, very quickly, however, and this new 
 world we live in is, well, new! What does it mean for a ''regular 
 person to make a movie using protected work and put it on the internet 
 for a handful people to see?? I don't think a case like that has ever 
 come before a court for a decision, and since the laws passed by 
 legislators and previous court cases don't deal with this issue, then 
 there is no law about it yet.
 
 Meanwhile not only has the internet changed broadcasting, and computers 
 have broken-down barriers to entry to creating films and media... but 
 also corporations have taken over more and more, buying up the rights 
 to more and more.
 
 Really I think there are two issues here:
 what is legal, and
 what is respectful.
 
 I see no need to respect the copyright on Happy Birthday (which was 
 owned by AOL/Time Warner... who's got it now?) If you are making a 
 feature film to distribute in theaters, you have to buy the rights to 
 use the song -- and it's incredibly expensive. The song was written in 
 1893 by Mildred and Patty Hill, with different words, and so the 
 artists are long gone. AOL Time Warner is just using the legal system 
 and their power to make as much money as possible without regard to 
 what the song means to us as a culture. So... if I get together with 
 friends and sing happy birthday in a restaurant, I'm not going to worry 
 about paying a fee for a public performance of a song. That's totally 
 ridiculous. If we videotape the moment, and I post it to my videoblog, 
 I am also not going to worry about it. Of course, I don't want the 
 wrath of AOL Time Warner lawyers upon me... I make less than $20k a 
 year, how in the world could I afford to defend myself in a lawsuit 
 BUT A HA! I am not alone. I'm sure if I got a seizt and desist letter 
 from AOL, I could contact American University and all these non-profits 
 working on fair use and they would jump on the case, donating their 
 services and taking care of the thing for me. It would be a great case 
 to see happen, and could mean breaking the hold of these ridiculous 
 money-grabbers!!
 
 Meanwhile, at the same time, there are many examples where it's grey as 
 to whether or not I have to get permission to use someone else's 
 work, but I decide I want to, because it's the right thing to do -- 
 it's the respectful thing to do. I can use my own judgment, and not 
 worry about the law. If a local band is selling their first album, 
 it's great exposure for them if I use their song in my videoblog. I'd 
 make sure I credit them, and link to their band website where people 
 can find out where they are playing and buy their album. If I knew 
 them, I'd probably let them know / ask them if it's okay. But for me, 
 if I didn't know them and didn't have time / felt too shy to find them, 
 I'd use their music anyway. It is great exposure for them -- if Good 
 Morning America wanted to do a spot on them, crediting them, but 
 without paying them, I'm sure they'd be thrilled!!!
 
 If however, I had some project going where I was going to make money -- 
 like I'm selling videos, and I take their music, and especially don't 
 credit them, but rather take advantage of a situation and even try to 
 pass off their art as my own -- well then I'm doing something wrong. I 
 say if it feels like stealing, then don't do it!! Even if you could 
 fight off a lawsuit and win. It's still wrong.
 
 But to your original question -- does every home-movie maker who wants 
 to use a mainstream song off a CD for their photo slide show or movie 
 of their kids have to worry about copyright violation?? I say no. Apply 
 created iPhoto and iMovie to let people do this very easily, and did 
 demonstrations of this very kind of project, and no one said, hey you 
 have to get Madonna's permission to use her song with those pictures of 
 your dog. I think publishing the movie to the web is just a step 
 further... and still should be allowed.
 
 Again, there is no law drawing the line in the digital sand. And every 
 record label 

Re: [videoblogging] $9200 movie @ sundance

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Verdi



A one-time student of mine, Pablo Veliz, has his $7000 DV film La Tragedia De Macario at Sundance this year. Another videoblogger and student of mine, Brian Gonzalez, shot the film.Pablo's vlog: 
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Nice story on Wired about Robert Ingraham's DV shot and G4 editedmovie Moonshine, which is premiering at Sundance...http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70031-0.html?tw=rss.index
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[videoblogging] RIAA discussion

2006-01-19 Thread Leslie Guttman
In regard to the RIAA, I think they actually do go after small fish. My 
brother was playing guitar in coffeehouses in Lexington, Ky., my 
hometown, and actually had to stop because the RIAA had come through 
and either gotten down on the artists or the coffeehouse, I can't 
remember the specifics, about covering songs. It was sort of insane.
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RE: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Mrs. Ours MA PLPC
Wow,
I guess this is my first Two cents post...

My humble opinion is simply this:  I will post my itty bitty vlog on the big 
world wide web... I will give credit where credit is due at all times 
providing URL's, Artist names, and core information. I will not say I wrote 
this! or I made This! if I didn't and will say who did whenever humanly 
possible.  I will also not charge people money of any kind to access or 
utilize my material or the material I share with others via my 
vlog/blog/Insert favorite form of media sharing mode here. Although I won't 
use Metallica stuff... (sorry bad cheap shot at Lars there).  If some famous 
person wants to come and take what wealth I have they're welcome to the 
beatup 68 chevy and the four kids it's all the wealth in the world I 
have.

I believe unless the big guys just get a wild hair and wanna crucify some 
poor mid-western housewife and mother of fourI'm probably safe enough 
being honestly dishonest?

Okay.. That's all I got
The end

From: Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:02:18 -

People... THIS is why you never hear any new music being played by
crew members on Star Trek...



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Crystal wrote:
 
Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net.
Republish on the net...so every can see it. But yet its mainly for
Friends and Family
  
is that breaking any laws?
  
I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share
it with people??
 
  The answer: no one knows yet.
  The laws regarding use of copyrighted works were written to be
  intentionally vague. The plan was for the law to have a large grey area
  so a judge could decide on a case-by-case basis what's right and what's
  not. The world has changed a lot, very quickly, however, and this new
  world we live in is, well, new! What does it mean for a ''regular
  person to make a movie using protected work and put it on the internet
  for a handful people to see?? I don't think a case like that has ever
  come before a court for a decision, and since the laws passed by
  legislators and previous court cases don't deal with this issue, then
  there is no law about it yet.
 
  Meanwhile not only has the internet changed broadcasting, and computers
  have broken-down barriers to entry to creating films and media... but
  also corporations have taken over more and more, buying up the rights
  to more and more.
 
  Really I think there are two issues here:
  what is legal, and
  what is respectful.
 
  I see no need to respect the copyright on Happy Birthday (which was
  owned by AOL/Time Warner... who's got it now?) If you are making a
  feature film to distribute in theaters, you have to buy the rights to
  use the song -- and it's incredibly expensive. The song was written in
  1893 by Mildred and Patty Hill, with different words, and so the
  artists are long gone. AOL Time Warner is just using the legal system
  and their power to make as much money as possible without regard to
  what the song means to us as a culture. So... if I get together with
  friends and sing happy birthday in a restaurant, I'm not going to worry
  about paying a fee for a public performance of a song. That's totally
  ridiculous. If we videotape the moment, and I post it to my videoblog,
  I am also not going to worry about it. Of course, I don't want the
  wrath of AOL Time Warner lawyers upon me... I make less than $20k a
  year, how in the world could I afford to defend myself in a lawsuit
  BUT A HA! I am not alone. I'm sure if I got a seizt and desist letter
  from AOL, I could contact American University and all these non-profits
  working on fair use and they would jump on the case, donating their
  services and taking care of the thing for me. It would be a great case
  to see happen, and could mean breaking the hold of these ridiculous
  money-grabbers!!
 
  Meanwhile, at the same time, there are many examples where it's grey as
  to whether or not I have to get permission to use someone else's
  work, but I decide I want to, because it's the right thing to do --
  it's the respectful thing to do. I can use my own judgment, and not
  worry about the law. If a local band is selling their first album,
  it's great exposure for them if I use their song in my videoblog. I'd
  make sure I credit them, and link to their band website where people
  can find out where they are playing and buy their album. If I knew
  them, I'd probably let them know / ask them if it's okay. But for me,
  if I didn't know them and didn't have time / felt too shy to find them,

[videoblogging] My iTunes Surprise

2006-01-19 Thread Rob Parrish
This group and my wife are about the only folks who would care about
this. 

But I found that if you search iTunes's podcasts for either video
art or art video my humble vlog http://www.hoppervideo.net comes up
as the second found item.  I was truly surprised by this.  I guess
when I signed up I put those terms into some tagging system, but I
don't really remember.  

Anybody know anything about how the iTunes search engine works?  The
podcasts that get listed in the top section have bigger bars on the
relevance column below.

By the way, for all you Kenny G fans I just posted a little something
you'll like. ;-)

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[videoblogging] media detection using drupal?

2006-01-19 Thread Brett Gaylor



Hi group. I'm wondering if any drupal pros here have any
experience with media detection. I'm coming across some issues
with Homeless Nation about PC users not having quicktime installed, and
I'm toying with doing a redirect to windows media for users that don't
have QT. Anyone have any experience with this, or experience in
general that might translate into drupal?

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Re: [videoblogging] Advice on microphones (for loud conventions)

2006-01-19 Thread Brett Gaylor



Kitka -
1) listen to Jan - she's a pro
2) it's generally better to seperate the mic from the camera itself so
you can get in real close. A boom person can make sure that the
directional mic they are using is pointed in the right direction, and
doesn't limit your camera to being super close to get good sound.
3) often we use lav mics, wireless ones, when we do interviews.
especially if we don't have a dedicated sound recordist. these
tend to be pretty expensive, though, for good ones - but since your
stuff is only destined for the web, it doesn't need to be as high
quality as it needs to be for broadcast
4) if you DO want to buy a beachtek, I've had one kicking around
forever that I want to get rid of. If you end up buying a new
camera that has XLR inputs, though, you won't need one. If not,
let me know! I'll bring it to the next meetup :)

The other advantage of having a beach tek (or a camera with XLR inputs)
is that you could have one mic that your interviewer holds, and then
another one on your subject.

cheers!
b
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[videoblogging] Re: my grandchild

2006-01-19 Thread grasshopperatyourfeet
I think it's important to remember that Home video bloggers are 
perhaps not as high on vlogger ladder of credibility as perhaps 
those that show more exciting footage. This isn't a bad thing 
necessarily just seems to be a norm. Cool stuff is just not equal to 
videos of children doing child things or pets doing pet things 
unless you are a child/pet person. :-} It's the difference between 
Shock Radio and Public Radio... But I am so happy to hear that 
you adore your Grandaughter so much that you would risk your already 
lost credibility with the vloggers to do a gratuitous plug for the 
RichardsGrandaughterShow.

Love,
The Daughter
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 I can't believe I'm saying this ... it is the essance of the evil 
home video
 videoblogger, perhaps worse than cat movies ... I will lose all my 
hard won
 credibility  oh, yeah, now I remember, I lost that a long time 
ago ...
 what a relief
 
 Check out my adorable, perfect, grand child on my daughter's new 
vlog
 
 http://ravenesse.blogspot.com/2006/01/great-deception-watch-video-
looks-can.html
 
 
 ... I just hope I live long enought to see the day when you other
 videobloggers have grand children ... my mother used to say that, 
and she
 did ... you'll find yourself doing stuff like posting notes like 
this to the
 video blog list ...
 
 ... and leaving a comment on the video wouldn't kill you either ...
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: my grandchild

2006-01-19 Thread Joan Khoo



Amen. Family first. :)
JoanOn 1/20/06, grasshopperatyourfeet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it's important to remember that Home video bloggers areperhaps not as high on vlogger ladder of credibility as perhapsthose that show more exciting footage. This isn't a bad thingnecessarily just seems to be a norm. Cool stuff is just not equal to
videos of children doing child things or pets doing pet thingsunless you are a child/pet person. :-} It's the difference betweenShock Radio and Public Radio... But I am so happy to hear thatyou adore your Grandaughter so much that you would risk your already
lost credibility with the vloggers to do a gratuitous plug for theRichardsGrandaughterShow.Love,The Daughter--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show 
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ago ... what a relief Check out my adorable, perfect, grand child on my daughter's newvlog http://ravenesse.blogspot.com/2006/01/great-deception-watch-video-
looks-can.html ... I just hope I live long enought to see the day when you other videobloggers have grand children ... my mother used to say that,and she did ... you'll find yourself doing stuff like posting notes like
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Re: [videoblogging] Sundance

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Verdi



I just talked to Brian and Pablo (another student of mine and the director of the film). They just got into town. They're going to videoblog it all and try to have something up before they leave.Brian's vlog: 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:28:16 +0100, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for letting us know about copyright law are Australia. Anyone
 else?? Other places??

The basics of Copyright are covered in the Berne Convention. These basics  
are shared by the 160 countries who have agreed to follow the convention  
(yes, I had to look up the number). This solves many issues alone. There  
are variations from country to country of course. Variations in the extent  
of Fair Use rights (Fair Use is not as well defined in Denmark for  
example) and variations in damages (bigger in the US than in Denmark) and  
so on.

 This does bring up interesting points -- the internet is global, so how
 does the law or practices of individual countries come into play? Since
 the corporate conglomerate has become more powerful than any country
 and more rights-laden than any individual, and passes right over
 borders as if they aren't there -- how does this reality affect what we
 as artists do or don't do? Does U.S. copyright law cover the globe in a
 way, since most global corporations are run by U.S. owners (with an
 off-shore address to evade taxes of course)?

You can only be sued for breaking the law in the country you reside.  
Thankfully US corporations can't extend messed up American laws to my  
country (and vice versa). I have yet to hear of extraditions for civil  
suits!

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:11:00 +0100, Carl Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 And who is in the video doesn't have anything to do with it. The  
 copyright is
 owned by the person or company that created the piece. Just like the  
 copyright
 of a portrait I shoot as a photographer is owned by me, not the person I
 photographed. I may give someone else permission to use the picture or  
 not. But
 if you decide to republish it without permission, we have a problem.  
 There are
 also all sorts of legalities involved with whether I have permission  
 from the
 person to use their likeness and image for certain purposes, but that  
 person
 does not own the copyright to the image without my assigning it to them.

You're right that who is in the video doesn't have any relation to  
copyrights, but that's not the same as it doesn't matter. That's why a  
videoblogger can't just learn copyright laws, and again that's why I keep  
recommending college text books on mass media law and not just a website  
with bullet points about Fair Use.

Misappropriation laws (using another's likeness for profit) and privacy  
laws *do* matter. They just aren't copyright-related. Even if you own the  
copyright on a video it doesn't mean you can use the video for anything  
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Bill Streeter
Yeah if you've never had cable or satelite TV or just not a certified
geek they you've likely never heard of him either. Although he is on
the Canadian version of Call for Help. But no big deal, that just
explains why he's doing so well with donations. I think it's great
that he can do this with no sponsorship. Its also interesting that his
web video stuff has as big or a bigger audiance than his TV show. 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember guys, I'm Canadian... I never even heard of Adam Curry until
 I was mentioned on his show a few months ago... I thought he was
 related to Tim Curry or something.
 
 I didn't really get into videoblogging because I saw it and wanted to
 do it, I just did it... only now am I learning more about the community.
 
 Kitka
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Laporte has been a TV personality for years.
  already has an established fan base etc...
  
  On 1/19/06, Ms. Kitka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
   there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
   heard of.  I'd better go check it out.
  
   Kitka
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
THANKS!  That is a great article.
   
I used the BugMeNot extension for Firefox to avoid
registering...
http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/
   
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported
 internet
 video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, cooper3acd
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Wow - that's awesome!
 
  I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting
those
   kind
  of cpms because you're so current and it in regards to
online
  video (it in a very good way).
 
  You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement
 there are
  positive branding implications for companies that sponsor
 you that
  go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are
simply not
  achievable for publishers who do not have your current
 positioning,
  product and reach.
 
  Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to
   maintain
  your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards.
 
  Cheers,
  Rob
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
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   We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
  
   On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
  
So all this legal talk about music brings me back to
 sponsors...
   
$25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for
video
sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major
 sports
  website
and am going by what they charge for various video
   advertising.
  And
the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
   
The big difference with RSS-based media is that the
 sponsorship
  would
be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the
 movie
  does.
   
Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets
 downloaded
  10,000
times in the first month and 2,000 times each month
  thereafter... that
would make the value of a single video sponsorship at
 $250 for
  the
first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
   
Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers
 since the
  video
gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So
 maybe the
  sponsor
 only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and
  another $250
for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500
  sponsorship per
video. (Up-front payment of course.)
   
Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel
   about
  this.
   
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[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Downloader

2006-01-19 Thread Crystal
I submitted a video on Google and placed it on my website at 
crystalvlogs.blogspot.com   its not much mostly a slideshows for the 
grandparents in alabama but.

I must say...it did better than I had anticipated
the worry i had was how they have to verfiy your submission before 
they put it on the web. With blip.tv its instantenous...i like that 
better but because of the past troubles (which have cleared up by 
themselves btw) I said well let me try this to see what happens...it 
worked. and my video was approved in about 6 hours or so. so that 
was okay...i will just use that as my backup incase when blip 
decides to give me fits again...





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 That stuff from Google about preferred format is probably not as
 absolute as some people think. It can probably handle other formats
 jsut fine, or maybe slightly slowe. The mp3 advice may even be out 
of
 date as Google seem to have changed their system quite a lot since 
the
 first google beta service launched.
 
 Steve of Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've submitted staight-outta-QT7 h.264 and had it accepted 
before now.
  
  Have you tried it?
  
  joly
  
  
   Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Speaking of Google Video, they seemed to have added quite a 
few new 
   features including the ability to download PSP and iPod 
compatible 
   formats. No rss feeds yet though. 
   
   Now this has come up before, if one wants to submit video to 
google 
   you have to convert your vid into one of their prefered 
formats. If 
   you are a Mac user the easiest would be to submit a MOV file. 
But
 the 
   problem is that they want your audio to be encoded as MP3. 
  
  
  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Crystal
Yes I see your point and I agree with you 100 percentthe artist 
i used was Creed and they are no longer together as a group

so I dunno what that meansbut anyway...

I agree with everything you just said (sorry its been a long day!)


Crystal


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Crystal wrote:
 
   Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
   background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
   pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the 
net.
   Republish on the net...so every can see it. But yet its 
mainly for
   Friends and Family
 
   is that breaking any laws?
 
   I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and 
share
   it with people??
 
 The answer: no one knows yet.
 The laws regarding use of copyrighted works were written to be 
 intentionally vague. The plan was for the law to have a large grey 
area 
 so a judge could decide on a case-by-case basis what's right and 
what's 
 not. The world has changed a lot, very quickly, however, and this 
new 
 world we live in is, well, new! What does it mean for a ''regular 
 person to make a movie using protected work and put it on the 
internet 
 for a handful people to see?? I don't think a case like that has 
ever 
 come before a court for a decision, and since the laws passed by 
 legislators and previous court cases don't deal with this issue, 
then 
 there is no law about it yet.
 
 Meanwhile not only has the internet changed broadcasting, and 
computers 
 have broken-down barriers to entry to creating films and media... 
but 
 also corporations have taken over more and more, buying up the 
rights 
 to more and more.
 
 Really I think there are two issues here:
 what is legal, and
 what is respectful.
 
 I see no need to respect the copyright on Happy Birthday (which 
was 
 owned by AOL/Time Warner... who's got it now?) If you are making a 
 feature film to distribute in theaters, you have to buy the rights 
to 
 use the song -- and it's incredibly expensive. The song was 
written in 
 1893 by Mildred and Patty Hill, with different words, and so the 
 artists are long gone. AOL Time Warner is just using the legal 
system 
 and their power to make as much money as possible without regard 
to 
 what the song means to us as a culture. So... if I get together 
with 
 friends and sing happy birthday in a restaurant, I'm not going to 
worry 
 about paying a fee for a public performance of a song. That's 
totally 
 ridiculous. If we videotape the moment, and I post it to my 
videoblog, 
 I am also not going to worry about it. Of course, I don't want the 
 wrath of AOL Time Warner lawyers upon me... I make less than $20k 
a 
 year, how in the world could I afford to defend myself in a 
lawsuit 
 BUT A HA! I am not alone. I'm sure if I got a seizt and desist 
letter 
 from AOL, I could contact American University and all these non-
profits 
 working on fair use and they would jump on the case, donating 
their 
 services and taking care of the thing for me. It would be a great 
case 
 to see happen, and could mean breaking the hold of these 
ridiculous 
 money-grabbers!!
 
 Meanwhile, at the same time, there are many examples where it's 
grey as 
 to whether or not I have to get permission to use someone else's 
 work, but I decide I want to, because it's the right thing to do --
 
 it's the respectful thing to do. I can use my own judgment, and 
not 
 worry about the law. If a local band is selling their first 
album, 
 it's great exposure for them if I use their song in my videoblog. 
I'd 
 make sure I credit them, and link to their band website where 
people 
 can find out where they are playing and buy their album. If I knew 
 them, I'd probably let them know / ask them if it's okay. But for 
me, 
 if I didn't know them and didn't have time / felt too shy to find 
them, 
 I'd use their music anyway. It is great exposure for them -- if 
Good 
 Morning America wanted to do a spot on them, crediting them, but 
 without paying them, I'm sure they'd be thrilled!!!
 
 If however, I had some project going where I was going to make 
money -- 
 like I'm selling videos, and I take their music, and especially 
don't 
 credit them, but rather take advantage of a situation and even try 
to 
 pass off their art as my own -- well then I'm doing something 
wrong. I 
 say if it feels like stealing, then don't do it!! Even if you 
could 
 fight off a lawsuit and win. It's still wrong.
 
 But to your original question -- does every home-movie maker who 
wants 
 to use a mainstream song off a CD for their photo slide show or 
movie 
 of their kids have to worry about copyright violation?? I say no. 
Apply 
 created iPhoto and iMovie to let people do this very easily, and 
did 
 demonstrations of this very kind of project, and no one said, hey 
you 
 have to get Madonna's permission to use her song with those 

[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread LeanBackVids.com
No, they said that Leo, Kevin and Patrick combined average in one week
what the show got in a single day.

The part I found most interesting is that Leo does not offer his
videos in iTunes because he can't handle the cost.  I wonder if that
means he doesn't have a feed or if he simply did not submit it to the
ITMS Directory.

I get sad when comparing the number of readers in iTunes to the number
of site visitors, let alone those who comment.  I wish iTunes would
take a few notes from FireANT.

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 Yeah if you've never had cable or satelite TV or just not a certified
 geek they you've likely never heard of him either. Although he is on
 the Canadian version of Call for Help. But no big deal, that just
 explains why he's doing so well with donations. I think it's great
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 web video stuff has as big or a bigger audiance than his TV show. 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] media detection using drupal?

2006-01-19 Thread Brett Gaylor



On 1/19/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you sure its because ppl don't have Quicktime, or are you directlinking to Quicktime media files and many users are browsing your sitewith Internet Explorer?
Thanks, Josh.



In this case I know certain computers don't have quicktime because I go
to the shelters that we work in and see that they don't. Also, we
don't direct link, it's inside a drupal node. For instance



http://homelessnation.org/en/node/442



So yeah, I guess I'm really looking for the option to re-direct to
windows media if they don't have quicktime. Or I have to go flash.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: my grandchild

2006-01-19 Thread BevSykes





I think it's important to 
remember that Home video bloggers are perhaps not as high on vlogger ladder 
of credibility as perhaps those that show more exciting footage. This isn't 
a bad thing necessarily just seems to be a norm. Cool stuff is just not 
equal to videos of children doing child things or pets doing pet things 
unless you are a child/pet person. :-} 

How condescending of you. From what I understand video blog means 
a blog that includes video. "Credibility," in my dictionary, means 
something that is believable. Perhaps home video bloggers have the highest 
"credibility" over those who create "cool stuff."

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Re: [videoblogging] media detection using drupal?

2006-01-19 Thread Kath O'Donnell



Hi Brett,

when you're posting in drupal are you using Filtered HTML. you can
edit the content filters for this to add the extra html codes, or use
Full HTML or PHP content filters if you have them enabled instead.
depending on the code your using for redirect of course. if you have
user rights setup check that the users are able to use these extra
content filters.



I'm not sure if your question was how to write the redirect code, or
how to get drupal to use it? the above is for the latter. drupal.org
forums are pretty helpful too.

cheers

Kath
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Hi group. I'm wondering if any drupal pros here have any
experience with media detection. I'm coming across some issues
with Homeless Nation about PC users not having quicktime installed, and
I'm toying with doing a redirect to windows media for users that don't
have QT. Anyone have any experience with this, or experience in
general that might translate into drupal?
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Re: [videoblogging] RIAA discussion

2006-01-19 Thread WWWhatsup


Altho the RIAA are bad I think you're falsely accusing them here.

It was ASCAP or BMI, surely?

joly

At 05:10 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:
In regard to the RIAA, I think they actually do go after small fish. My 
brother was playing guitar in coffeehouses in Lexington, Ky., my 
hometown, and actually had to stop because the RIAA had come through 
and either gotten down on the artists or the coffeehouse, I can't 
remember the specifics, about covering songs. It was sort of insane.
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Re: [videoblogging] Freevlog to Wordpress instruction tweak???

2006-01-19 Thread Josh Wolf
While I too wouldn't recommend You Tube, their terms of service are  
actually not that offensive. Yes, you're permitting You Tube to make  
money by licensing your content in any way they choose, but if your  
video were to be widely distributed through You Tube -- many of it's  
core users would possibly be ecstatic and not bothered by the lack of  
compensation. At the same time, You Tube doesn't allow you to create  
an RSS feed of your videos -- and there are plenty of alternatives  
which better serve the videoblogging community and are free.

 From the You Tube TOS: you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non- 
exclusive, fully paid-up, royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual,  
sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce,  
distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, perform and  
otherwise exploit the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube  
Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business, including  
without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of  
the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media  
formats and through any media channels.

Josh


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 - Yes - use Josh's pop-up thing. It rocks!

 - For quicktime embeds I had to turn off rich-text in WordPress 2.

 - Also, please people, go read the YouTube terms of service! I  
 would never in a million years recommend them.

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[videoblogging] using josh's pop up thing.

2006-01-19 Thread Brett Gaylor



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread Ronen



Clever boy.On 1/19/06, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The section of the clip from the clerks2 crit that we used, did not have any music in it.On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Brett Gaylor wrote:
  can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that -- a promotional tool / ad. View Askew 
wants them to spread as far as possible. yet technically still illegal. It would be unwise to spread the idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're promoting them. Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same). So - even though you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it.
  Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) . It could be construed that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under copyright law. What if, down the line, you do end up making a profit from your work?
  Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue. brett IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL  ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights, record companies, etc).
  On 1/18/06, 
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   On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:   Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't  they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino?
  We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under  the guidelines of fair use.  
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[videoblogging] moblogging: seeking video service

2006-01-19 Thread Jack Olmsted
On Monday, the Sanyo a920 (broadband like speeds, Sprint TV Capable) 
cell phone arrived.

What free video sites offer moblogging (sending video from a cell 
phone to a service that posts the video to your video blog 
immediately)? 

I'm looking for something like Flickr.
I can snap a pix with a cell, email it immediately to Flickr that 
publishes the photo from Flickr to my blog. 

I want to publish the video on a third party site because Sprint 
only keeps the video for a limited time on their server.

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[videoblogging] Re: Sundance

2006-01-19 Thread JV
awesome... we are in park city too.

we probably won't have anything up until tomorrow, but we have a bunch
of stuff lined up.

www.flavorpill.net/sundance

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director
 of the film). They just got into town. They're going to videoblog it
all and
 try to have something up before they leave.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: moblogging: seeking video service

2006-01-19 Thread David Howell
I believe Blip offers that.

David
http://www.taoofdavid.com

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 On Monday, the Sanyo a920 (broadband like speeds, Sprint TV Capable) 
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 What free video sites offer moblogging (sending video from a cell 
 phone to a service that posts the video to your video blog 
 immediately)? 
 
 I'm looking for something like Flickr.
 I can snap a pix with a cell, email it immediately to Flickr that 
 publishes the photo from Flickr to my blog. 
 
 I want to publish the video on a third party site because Sprint 
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[videoblogging] Created IRC Channel - #vbloggers on irc.freenode.net

2006-01-19 Thread bleedxapathy



i made an irc channel for the group. i dont know if one exists already but now we have one on freenode.#vbloggers on irc.freenode.net-bxa-- i was crying my ass off long before it was cool be to be emo...


  




  
  
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[videoblogging] the lamest format (it's not Flash video)

2006-01-19 Thread Mike Lanza
Microsoft just announced officially that they're dropping development of 
Windows Media for 
Macintosh.  Meanwhile, Macs recently passed 5% market share for PCs.

They almost doubled market share right before switching microprocessor 
platforms, a time 
when nearly everyone expected their share to dip.  Thus, I'd say it's clear 
that Mac is headed 
for upper single digits, if not double-digits.

As any Mac user will tell you, videos that require Windows Media (usually 
.wmv's) either don't 
work at all on a Mac (e.g. CNN) or they work in a really weird way that looks 
like an error (e.g. 
blip.tv).  

So, for a segment of the user population that is 5% and growing fast, the 
Windows Media 
experience is bad and will surely get worse since Microsoft isn't developing 
Windows Media 
for Mac anymore.  (Their suggestion - to use Flip4Mac - is *totally* lame.  Can 
you see your 
mom downloading and installing Flip4Mac to watch a video?)

My conclusion is that any site based on this lame format is, well, lame for 
using it.  As the 
Mac continues to gain market share in 2006, I predict that Windows Media will 
be dropped by 
many, if not most, of the serious web video sites using it today. 





 
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[videoblogging] Re: moblogging: seeking video service

2006-01-19 Thread Jack Olmsted
i also thought blip and viemo offered moblogging but i couldn't find 
any information on their faq page. if you know that a service offers 
moblogging, please post a link to their info page. thanks, -jack


 I believe Blip offers that.
 
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  phone to a service that posts the video to your video blog 
  immediately)? 
  
  I'm looking for something like Flickr.
  I can snap a pix with a cell, email it immediately to Flickr that 
  publishes the photo from Flickr to my blog. 
  
  I want to publish the video on a third party site because Sprint 
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[videoblogging] Update on Intel's Vlogging Contest

2006-01-19 Thread Andres Bianciotto



Hello folks,I'm just sending an update on the Intel Mexico Videoblogging Contest, we have a couple of good news.First of all, the project was officially opened for participants to send in their work last Sunday 15th.But now comes the best part: the project team decided to adopt an open border policy, so every Spanish-speaking (and Spanish-producing) vlogger in the world can register and participate.Besides all this, we're already planning to replicate the contest in Latin American countries / regions during the present year.This is the URL of the contest: http://intel.luzcamaraenter.comLuz. Cámara. Enter. Primer Concurso Intel de Videoblogs(Lights. Camera. Enter. Intel's First Videoblogging Contest)Seems like I missed some previous comments, some of you were wondering about what could be the motivations for Intel to do this. I'll try to do my best to give you an answer:Please bear in mind that I'm not an Intel
 employee, I'm partner and project head in the agency Intel selected to develop the project.It's not an internal "good will" group. It's the Digital Home team (http://www.intel.com/personal/digital_home/) and among other "more traditional" projects, we developed this contest to encourage the production of digital content that can be enjoyed in a Digital Home and enhance the experience of the users of Intel technologies. The prizes are financial support and equipment for the best ones, as we aim to provide support for valuable projects, versus handing out gifts. It's a good first step, if I can "sound" unbiased.That's all on my side, until next time.Andres Bianciotto
		  
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Re: [videoblogging] the lamest format (it's not Flash video)

2006-01-19 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Not so fast there... Windows Media ain't going away anytime soon.
You wanna know why? Two reasons:

- Its much easier to create Windows Media on PCs than it is to create
Quicktime (just ask any of the Windows users here what they've had to
go through).

- DRM. Imagine you are a hollywood studio. You want to sell content on
the web but you want to make sure that your content is protected.
Windows Media is your only choice because Apple does not license their
DRM.

So there you go... don't expect WMV to fade into the distance quietly.
In fact, the Flip4Mac plugin may provide a better viewing experience
for Mac users than the woefully out-of-date wmv plugin. Just because
you have to download it separately now doesn't mean that will always
be the case. I'm sure it will begin to be bundled with other downloads
and Microsoft products...

-Josh


On 1/19/06, Mike Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Microsoft just announced officially that they're dropping development of 
 Windows Media for
 Macintosh.  Meanwhile, Macs recently passed 5% market share for PCs.

 They almost doubled market share right before switching microprocessor 
 platforms, a time
 when nearly everyone expected their share to dip.  Thus, I'd say it's clear 
 that Mac is headed
 for upper single digits, if not double-digits.

 As any Mac user will tell you, videos that require Windows Media (usually 
 .wmv's) either don't
 work at all on a Mac (e.g. CNN) or they work in a really weird way that looks 
 like an error (e.g.
 blip.tv).

 So, for a segment of the user population that is 5% and growing fast, the 
 Windows Media
 experience is bad and will surely get worse since Microsoft isn't developing 
 Windows Media
 for Mac anymore.  (Their suggestion - to use Flip4Mac - is *totally* lame.  
 Can you see your
 mom downloading and installing Flip4Mac to watch a video?)

 My conclusion is that any site based on this lame format is, well, lame for 
 using it.  As the
 Mac continues to gain market share in 2006, I predict that Windows Media will 
 be dropped by
 many, if not most, of the serious web video sites using it today.






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Re: [videoblogging] the lamest format (it's not Flash video)

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Quirk



For some terrible reason I felt compelled to second this rebuttal for Windows Media.Maybe because it's the most popular video format on the internet.But more likely, because it's what's paying the bills at the moment.
And as much as I like scrubbing...and Lord I love scrubbingit doesn't make up for the fact that Windows users are in the BIG majority. So if you want your friends who don't read BoingBoing to see your videos, you need to make them in WMV format.
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Not so fast there... Windows Media ain't going away anytime soon.
You wanna know why? Two reasons:

- Its much easier to create Windows Media on PCs than it is to create
Quicktime (just ask any of the Windows users here what they've had to
go through).

- DRM. Imagine you are a hollywood studio. You want to sell content on
the web but you want to make sure that your content is protected.
Windows Media is your only choice because Apple does not license their
DRM.

So there you go... don't expect WMV to fade into the distance quietly.
In fact, the Flip4Mac plugin may provide a better viewing experience
for Mac users than the woefully out-of-date wmv plugin. Just because
you have to download it separately now doesn't mean that will always
be the case. I'm sure it will begin to be bundled with other downloads
and Microsoft products...

-Josh


On 1/19/06, Mike Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Microsoft just announced officially that they're dropping development of Windows Media for
 Macintosh. Meanwhile, Macs recently passed 5% market share for PCs.

 They almost doubled market share right before switching microprocessor platforms, a time
 when nearly everyone expected their share to dip. Thus, I'd say it's clear that Mac is headed
 for upper single digits, if not double-digits.

 As any Mac user will tell you, videos that require Windows Media (usually .wmv's) either don't
 work at all on a Mac (e.g. CNN) or they work in a really weird way that looks like an error (e.g.
 blip.tv).

 So, for a segment of the user population that is 5% and growing fast, the Windows Media
 experience is bad and will surely get worse since Microsoft isn't developing Windows Media
 for Mac anymore. (Their suggestion - to use Flip4Mac - is *totally* lame. Can you see your
 mom downloading and installing Flip4Mac to watch a video?)

 My conclusion is that any site based on this lame format is, well, lame for using it. As the
 Mac continues to gain market share in 2006, I predict that Windows Media will be dropped by
 many, if not most, of the serious web video sites using it today.






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[videoblogging] Vloggers of the World Unite! Let us Vlog4Peace!

2006-01-19 Thread Pedro E. Rahon
Peace !

This vlogging initiative will be called as the Million Minutes 
Vlog4Peace. It is a vlog project dedicated for personal peace in 
particular and world peace in general. It will be vloggers 
contribution to making a peaceful and better world for all.

visit this website: http://vlog4peace.blogspot.com/

Kapayapaan !

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