Re: jailbreaking how do i change the premium voice?
what i mean is, whare is the premium voice located in the ipods file system? because when i go to slash system slash private frameworks slash voice services framwork slash english US, i get only the compacted voice and when i replace the samantha voice in there with the full tom voice and the compacte voice, only the compacted version of tomworks. the uncompacted voice is still smantha. How do i change the uncompacted voice to tom? jailbreakers ho have done this, plese comment on this. whare is the uncompacted version of samantha located in the IOS filesystem? thanks, ben On 6/23/12, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The premium voice is ties to the ciri voice, so is you change the sciri default voice, this will change the premium voice. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 24/06/2012, at 3:08 AM, Ben Blatchford benbla...@gmail.com wrote: hello, how do i change, for example, samantha voice to the tom vpoice when jailbroken? thanks, ben blatchford Sent from my iPod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Games for iOS
I would love for someone to instruct me in playing Hanging with Friends. If you need to do this offlist, my email is sbgreen...@gmail.com My twitter username is @Shari_rocks I have downloaded the game, but don't know how to play it. Thanks a bunch. Sharonda On 6/21/12, Maria From Australia bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Do u have a link for tweet hunt? I downloaded an app called tweet hunt but all I get is music with birds tweeting. Thanks. Blessings! Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 22/06/2012, at 12:22 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Yes, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned them. smile. -- Raul A. Gallegos Some people are like Slinkies ... not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/21/2012 8:02 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: are they playable when voice over is turned off? thanks Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 21/06/2012, at 10:19 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, no. You have to turn off Voice Over. -- Raul A. Gallegos Why are they called apartments when they are all stuck together? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/20/2012 4:20 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: ski ball, duck hunt and tweet hunt these are games i haven't heard of. Are they totally accessible with vo? thanks regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.powerradio104.us http://www.powerradio104.us http://www.powerradio104.us where we play lots of great music On 20/06/2012, at 3:45 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: In that case, Skee Ball, Duck Hunt, Tweet Hunt, and Bop-It. Those are games which were not specifically designed for blind people. There are many more, but those are the first few I can think of since I just played a few earlier today. -- Raul A. Gallegos Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/19/2012 9:30 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: Typical games for blind folks. I want to play the kinds of games that sighted people play. Andy -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [SPAM]Re: Games for iOS Hi, Games from Storm8 are accessible. Then there is Blind Side, Where's my Rubber Ducky. Zany Touch, Smack Me, Bop-It, 7 little words, Moxie, Beep Beep, and Sudoku4All. There are many more, but without knowing what specifically what you are looking for, it's hard to list all. -- Raul A. Gallegos Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/19/2012 2:44 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: I see you play allot of games. What's your favorite? BTW this did help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: Games for iOS
I would also like instructions for Hanging with Friends. Thanks. Judy Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:30 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote: I would love for someone to instruct me in playing Hanging with Friends. If you need to do this offlist, my email is sbgreen...@gmail.com My twitter username is @Shari_rocks I have downloaded the game, but don't know how to play it. Thanks a bunch. Sharonda On 6/21/12, Maria From Australia bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Do u have a link for tweet hunt? I downloaded an app called tweet hunt but all I get is music with birds tweeting. Thanks. Blessings! Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 22/06/2012, at 12:22 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Yes, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned them. smile. -- Raul A. Gallegos Some people are like Slinkies ... not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/21/2012 8:02 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: are they playable when voice over is turned off? thanks Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 21/06/2012, at 10:19 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, no. You have to turn off Voice Over. -- Raul A. Gallegos Why are they called apartments when they are all stuck together? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/20/2012 4:20 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: ski ball, duck hunt and tweet hunt these are games i haven't heard of. Are they totally accessible with vo? thanks regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.powerradio104.us http://www.powerradio104.us http://www.powerradio104.us where we play lots of great music On 20/06/2012, at 3:45 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: In that case, Skee Ball, Duck Hunt, Tweet Hunt, and Bop-It. Those are games which were not specifically designed for blind people. There are many more, but those are the first few I can think of since I just played a few earlier today. -- Raul A. Gallegos Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/19/2012 9:30 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: Typical games for blind folks. I want to play the kinds of games that sighted people play. Andy -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [SPAM]Re: Games for iOS Hi, Games from Storm8 are accessible. Then there is Blind Side, Where's my Rubber Ducky. Zany Touch, Smack Me, Bop-It, 7 little words, Moxie, Beep Beep, and Sudoku4All. There are many more, but without knowing what specifically what you are looking for, it's hard to list all. -- Raul A. Gallegos Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/19/2012 2:44 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: I see you play allot of games. What's your favorite? BTW this did help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: News apps.
Yikes! You have to be a member to view! Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Jun 24, 2012, at 12:44 AM, Chuck Dean cadean...@gmail.com wrote: My favorite news source is the N F B Newsline Mobile app. Here is a link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nfb-newsline-mobile/id530470425?mt=8 This app is 100% accessible and allows access to hundreds of daily newspapers and magazines. You can read online or subscribe to particular periodicals and download them to your phone. Of course you need to be a Newsline member, but it is all free Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: An Audio Review of iTunes Match
Hi. Thank you very much for this awesome walkthrough and explanation of iTunes match. How do you make these long Audio boos? Sorry for the off-topic question. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 24/06/2012 kl. 07.27 skrev Jonathan Mosen: Hi everyone, I've been tweeting a bit about iTunes Match this week, and a few people have asked if I could do an Audioboo on my experiences. So here it is. I hope people considering it will find it of use. http://audioboo.fm/boos/859517 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Questions about the Huffington Post app, was, Re: News apps.
Hi Kimber, Are you using huff post on an iPad or iPhone/iPod? And are you seeing these buttons that are not labeled when you first open the app, prior to selecting an edition? I don't recall seeing unlabeled buttons when I first started using this app. But now when I open the app, I certainly am not seeing any. I get At the top left, it says The Huffington Post, and top right is a button that says editions. Across the bottom are 5 tabs, front page, sections, search, favorites and settings. Front page is selected by default, and stories are in a list. You can flick or scroll through stories. The only thing I remember changing in the settings was that I turned off landscape mode. Also in settings, there is one for autohide nav bar, which is off, but I don't think I changed that. Perhaps this nav bar is what is causing your problem? I have not experienced the problem scrolling, although generally in an article, I use the two finger flick down and read continuously once I find the start of the article. That is often on the second page, as there may be images or other unwanted stuff on the first page of an article. Also, occasionally, you will run in to a slide show, and those don't work well. But regular articles, the vast majority of items that I've run across, are completely accessible here on my iPhone 4S. Once an article is open, across the top, I get the back button, the section from which the article was taken, e.g. politics, then a left and a right button. I don't know what those buttons do. Then there is the text, and after that, another row of buttons, iPhone share, which brings up a screen full of options that let you do things like tweet, email, facebook etc, the article you're reading. After the iPhone share from left to right are comment, star, text zoom in and text zoom out. I assume the star is some sort of favorites thing, although I have not used it. The share feature is really handy. Then on the very bottom left corner I get a number, such as 9,379 image. Again, not sure what that is, but it has never interfered with my ability to read articles by two finger flicking down once I've found the start of text which is generally on the second screen of an article. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
Greetings to the list. Over on the vi-kindle email list from freelists.org, a user asked a penetrating question: Why did Apple build accessibility into all of its products? Knowing the answer to this query might prove helpful as blind and visually impaired people work with other companies to make their products more accessible. I have heard that Apple made the iPod accessible because it was looking out for motorists who might be better served by finding music by touch than by diverting their gaze from the road to look at a screen. However, this information is anecdotal. Can anyone point to evidence right from the company as to why VoiceOver was integrated into the Apple line? I'm looking for the facts, not conjecture. smile Since this question is off topic, if you'll email me off list, I'll summarize to the list. Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: New Tech Doctor Podcast
Hi Chuck, Sorry but I do not know the answer to either of your questions. I don't know whether the output of Fleksy will route to bluetooth and the price hasn't yet been announced. Robert Carter On Jun 23, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Chuck Dean wrote: Interesting, but will this work with a blue tooth headset? I noticed that she raised the iPhone to her ear to hear what she had just typed. Is there any idea of what this app may cost? Thanks, Chuck On Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:29:18 AM UTC-7, Robert Carter wrote: Hi All, I just published a new Tech Doctor podcast where Jessica Rathwell and I explain and demonstrate a new app that makes typing on the iOS touch screen easier and faster for a blind person. The app is not yet available but this podcast gives you a preview of what is coming. http://www.dr-carter.com Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
Hi, If you go back and read any of the Jobs biographies or watch any of the movies I believe that you will see that although he could be an asshole, Jobs was a visionary. His ideology was the driving force behind total control of the products that Apple created. Universal access was only a part of that ideology. Is there a particular document that exists explaining why they included TTS in their designs? No clue. This is just my conclusions from reading and watching the Jobs phenomenon. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Craig Werner wrote: Greetings to the list. Over on the vi-kindle email list from freelists.org, a user asked a penetrating question: Why did Apple build accessibility into all of its products? Knowing the answer to this query might prove helpful as blind and visually impaired people work with other companies to make their products more accessible. I have heard that Apple made the iPod accessible because it was looking out for motorists who might be better served by finding music by touch than by diverting their gaze from the road to look at a screen. However, this information is anecdotal. Can anyone point to evidence right from the company as to why VoiceOver was integrated into the Apple line? I'm looking for the facts, not conjecture. smile Since this question is off topic, if you'll email me off list, I'll summarize to the list. Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Hi Ben, Your app has just been deleted from my phone. Had you made the app $1.99 from the start and not gone this route I would have purchased it without reservation. I am sorry that you chose this method of getting payment from your work. Best of Luck, Keith On Jun 22, 2012, at 9:30 PM, Active Information Systems wrote: Hi all… I'm Ben, the developer of the Voicebook VO app. Due to unfortunate circumstances, I need to make everyone aware of an issue. I have been working on an update that will address many of the concerns people have had with refreshing, number of comments, as well as some enhancements. Unfortunately, due to some under-the-weather days and an unforeseen Hardware issue, this release is a bit behind schedule. Being behind schedule, you will soon run into one of the bugs I hoped to fix before it became an issue. However, I will not be able to get the update through Apple's review process and into the store in time. The app will begin prompting you to purchase an upgrade when you with to post your status, like and item, or add a comment. When prompted, the price will not display correctly. The price is $1.99, and $1.99 is what will be charged if you make the purchase, but the screen will show you a mis-formatted string of numbers rather than this price. Please rest assured that only $1.99 is charged if you wish to make the purchase. I'd ask that folks help spread the word about this formatting glitch if and when people mention it. Also, know that you may continue to use the app for free if you are simply reading your newsfeed and related comments. I hope to have the Hardware issue resolved and the app updated soon. After these fixes, I've got some desired new functionality coming down the pick. Please visit www.activeinfosys.com to view the product roadmap. Thanks for your support! Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
I have no problem with paying 1.99 now or later The way I see it is I had a demo of a product Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Had that information been imparted to me in the app store I would not have had an issue either. It's the bait and switch aspect of his behavior that got my panties in a wad. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I have no problem with paying 1.99 now or later The way I see it is I had a demo of a product Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
Craig, I am not sure you will find a specific reason. I have heard stories that range from Apple facing a lawsuit (not likely at all) to some child of an engineer (more likely) who was blind. I suspect the real reason is that Apple saw an opportunity and opted to take a risk which I should note has paid in spades. Apple has done more than any other mainstream company has ever done. In fact I will go as far as to say that VO on an iOS device is revolutionary and really changed how blind people interact with touch-screen devices. VO has really leveled the playing field in ways no other screen reader has been able. I think Apple realized the success of VO on the Mac and heard from users they wanted access to iPods, iPhones, etc. There is no question that VO on iOS has been wildly successful. Oh and yes for the record I am a fanboy and thrilled to be such. However, for the record VO like any screen reading solution is not perfect; although it does one hell of a job. :) On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to the list. Over on the vi-kindle email list from freelists.org, a user asked a penetrating question: Why did Apple build accessibility into all of its products? Knowing the answer to this query might prove helpful as blind and visually impaired people work with other companies to make their products more accessible. I have heard that Apple made the iPod accessible because it was looking out for motorists who might be better served by finding music by touch than by diverting their gaze from the road to look at a screen. However, this information is anecdotal. Can anyone point to evidence right from the company as to why VoiceOver was integrated into the Apple line? I'm looking for the facts, not conjecture. smile Since this question is off topic, if you'll email me off list, I'll summarize to the list. Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
I don't agree To each there own Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Had that information been imparted to me in the app store I would not have had an issue either. It's the bait and switch aspect of his behavior that got my panties in a wad. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I have no problem with paying 1.99 now or later The way I see it is I had a demo of a product Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Getting Started with Audible.com
Yeah, I saw that, it may work but has not in my experience yet anyway. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 1:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Getting Started with Audible.com Rose, there is a help file on the Audible site associated with the iPhone and iPod app, and it says deleting a book can be accomplished by a left-to-right swiping gesture to focus on the title and bring up the delete button. I have no idea if this gesture has a VoiceOver equivalent as I have not yet downloaded the app. Craig On 6/23/12, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I have never quite figured out how to delete books from the app, generally if he is well, I let my husband do that, seems to be easy for him. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Getting Started with Audible.com Hi, yes. you can download books directly from the app. I actually prefer this to putting the books on my phone via iTunes. As far as the documentation, I didn't even know it existed. lol. The app is fairly straight forward. Just play around with it. The only things that is a bit round about is deleting books once your done with them. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Mike et al, can the iPhone app take care of downloading books as well as reding them aloud? Can one bypass the documentation on udible.com which, I believe, uses iTunes and a flavor of Audible Download Manager as the downloading mechanism? Craig On 6/23/12, Mike Maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: Hi there I also right now use audible What kind of reading you looking for The iPhone app S is very easy to use ent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to the list. I am a long-time subscriber to Audible.com and have decided to start reading Audible books on my iPhone. Can anyone recommend some documentation or helpful reading as I embark? Thank you. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group.
RE: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
Hi, I completely agree here. Just look at other companies, Microsoft for example, a company that claims all their products are accessible to persons with disibilities. That statement couldn't be any more wrong. I myself would much rather pay a premium for an apple product with accessibility built in out of the box, as opposed to paying the same price for another screen access solution, on top of a PC with Windows. Yes, VO isn't perfect, but it's leaps and bounds over what other companies like Freedom scientific and GW Micro could ever dream of creating. I'm sorry if my post strayed off topic, I just can't help but admit I'm also a fanboy and an Apple geek. P.S.: I can't wait to see them try to make Windows RT accessible on tablets. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Craig, I am not sure you will find a specific reason. I have heard stories that range from Apple facing a lawsuit (not likely at all) to some child of an engineer (more likely) who was blind. I suspect the real reason is that Apple saw an opportunity and opted to take a risk which I should note has paid in spades. Apple has done more than any other mainstream company has ever done. In fact I will go as far as to say that VO on an iOS device is revolutionary and really changed how blind people interact with touch-screen devices. VO has really leveled the playing field in ways no other screen reader has been able. I think Apple realized the success of VO on the Mac and heard from users they wanted access to iPods, iPhones, etc. There is no question that VO on iOS has been wildly successful. Oh and yes for the record I am a fanboy and thrilled to be such. However, for the record VO like any screen reading solution is not perfect; although it does one hell of a job. :) On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to the list. Over on the vi-kindle email list from freelists.org, a user asked a penetrating question: Why did Apple build accessibility into all of its products? Knowing the answer to this query might prove helpful as blind and visually impaired people work with other companies to make their products more accessible. I have heard that Apple made the iPod accessible because it was looking out for motorists who might be better served by finding music by touch than by diverting their gaze from the road to look at a screen. However, this information is anecdotal. Can anyone point to evidence right from the company as to why VoiceOver was integrated into the Apple line? I'm looking for the facts, not conjecture. smile Since this question is off topic, if you'll email me off list, I'll summarize to the list. Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what I've just spent time spelling out for you. Kind regards, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-06-24, at 8:25 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
It should have been declared a demo from the start. I don't think anyone resents the price as such, except it said Free when many of us downloaded and installed. - Original Message - From: Mike Maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice I have no problem with paying 1.99 now or later The way I see it is I had a demo of a product Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: square iphone app?
I have square and enter info on first screen before plugging it in. I have been using assistance up to then but am going to try the blue tooth headset method mentioned on triple click home. swiping card is tricky somedays but learned to lay phone flat before swiping. D Laura Ann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Voicebook VO Notice
I think, yet again, we have the mentality of always expecting something for nothing. If it is for us, it should be free, right? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what I've just spent time spelling out for you. Kind regards, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-06-24, at 8:25 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-fa q voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-ro admap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Getting Started with Audible.com
Hi, This is mostly true. You can also delete by swiping but, you need to have voiceover turned off. Here's what I do, especially if a download is corrupted and I can't gain access to the info button. First, find the part of the book you want to delete. Not by flicking but, run your finger up and down the screen so you can actually find where it is on the screen. Now, remember that place, and lift your finger up right above that spot. Now turn VO off with a triple press of home. Now place your finger back on that spot and swipe left or right. Turn VO back on. Now, there will be a remove from device button on the screen that you can get to by flicking or, exploring the screen. Just double tap this and confirm. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 24, 2012, at 2:04 AM, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: The only way I know to delete books from within the audible app, you have to have the book playing . In other words, the info/details/delete method can only be accomplished while you are playing the file. So in order to delete all parts of a book, you have to go to each part, start playing then double tap the info button, go to the details tab then swipe to the delete button. It's a bit clunky but becomes easier with practice. Kimber On 6/23/12, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, That is not accessible with voiceover. You can go to the page with the controls for playing the book and double tap the info button then, select the details tab. there you will find a delete button. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 23, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Rose, there is a help file on the Audible site associated with the iPhone and iPod app, and it says deleting a book can be accomplished by a left-to-right swiping gesture to focus on the title and bring up the delete button. I have no idea if this gesture has a VoiceOver equivalent as I have not yet downloaded the app. Craig On 6/23/12, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I have never quite figured out how to delete books from the app, generally if he is well, I let my husband do that, seems to be easy for him. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Getting Started with Audible.com Hi, yes. you can download books directly from the app. I actually prefer this to putting the books on my phone via iTunes. As far as the documentation, I didn't even know it existed. lol. The app is fairly straight forward. Just play around with it. The only things that is a bit round about is deleting books once your done with them. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Mike et al, can the iPhone app take care of downloading books as well as reding them aloud? Can one bypass the documentation on udible.com which, I believe, uses iTunes and a flavor of Audible Download Manager as the downloading mechanism? Craig On 6/23/12, Mike Maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: Hi there I also right now use audible What kind of reading you looking for The iPhone app S is very easy to use ent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to the list. I am a long-time subscriber to Audible.com and have decided to start reading Audible books on my iPhone. Can anyone recommend some documentation or helpful reading as I embark? Thank you. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: Getting Started with Audible.com
Hi Craig, That help file maybe of some use, but the method described regarding deletion of books does not work when Voiceover is running. You can swipe left to right all day long without a delete button becoming visible and the method Kimber described (start playing the part you want to delete, go to Info, then select the Details tab and find the Remove from Device button and confirm) is the only way you can delete a book at this point. You have to play and remove each part of a book separately, a bit of a pain in the neck if the book has 5 or 6 parts. I hope you will add your voice to mine and that of others who have written to Audible to ask for better Voiceover accessibility. The app works perfectly well, but it would be very nice if there was a more efficient way to delete a book both part by part which can be useful if a particular part didn't download properly, but also by just deleting the entire book at once. One other improvement I would like to see is with the Playback Position control. Currently if Voiceover has focus on that control, it continuously reads the playback position, this should be disabled so you could use the control and not have to move Voiceover away from it when you stop to listen for a moment to see whether you found the place you want. The same goes for the time remaining and time elapsed counters. Furthermore, currently you can only flick up and down on that Playback Position and it will move your playback position forward or backward by as far as I can tell about 30 seconds. It would be nice if you could actually slide that position/timeline by doing a double tap and hold and then a swipe left or right similar to how you can change the volume by using the same method. If I set my sleep timer for 30 minutes and happen to fall asleep after 10 minutes I would really like to be able to move back in larger jumps or continuusly. I hope some of the new users as well as some long-time users will take these suggestions as a reason to contact Audible, they haven't released an update for some time and in the past were not known to make Voiceover improvements quickly so let's let them know we are out there. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Hi, Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I am willing to pay that price. That is my point. Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there is a problem. Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. I really do like the app and wish you well. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what I've just spent time spelling out for you. Kind regards, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-06-24, at 8:25 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Ah, see there are others with principles out there. Hold on tight to them! Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Rob Harris wrote: It should have been declared a demo from the start. I don't think anyone resents the price as such, except it said Free when many of us downloaded and installed. - Original Message - From: Mike Maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice I have no problem with paying 1.99 now or later The way I see it is I had a demo of a product Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
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Keith Remove the app and call it a day Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I am willing to pay that price. That is my point. Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there is a problem. Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. I really do like the app and wish you well. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what I've just spent time spelling out for you. Kind regards, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-06-24, at 8:25 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
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Wow can we close this thread? Flaming will start Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, see there are others with principles out there. Hold on tight to them! Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Rob Harris wrote: It should have been declared a demo from the start. I don't think anyone resents the price as such, except it said Free when many of us downloaded and installed. - Original Message - From: Mike Maslo mmaslo1...@swbell.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice I have no problem with paying 1.99 now or later The way I see it is I had a demo of a product Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
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Apparently you don't read very well. I have removed it. On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith Remove the app and call it a day Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I am willing to pay that price. That is my point. Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there is a problem. Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. I really do like the app and wish you well. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what I've just spent time spelling out for you. Kind regards, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-06-24, at 8:25 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
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Keith: Good job so drop the subject. No one had a gun to your head forcing you to buy anything. The next time something is free we will make sure it is totally free for you. We will ensure that everything you buy s free also. My guess is if it would have been $1.99 up front you would have complained about the fact that it did not have all the features you wanted and then demanded a refund. Some time you can not make everyone happy. I leanred that while working and I see it is true here too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice Apparently you don't read very well. I have removed it. On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith Remove the app and call it a day Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I am willing to pay that price. That is my point. Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there is a problem. Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. I really do like the app and wish you well. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what I've just spent time spelling out for you. Kind regards, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-06-24, at 8:25 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited functionality and a fully functional paid version I would not have a problem and would actually have bypassed the free version and purchased the paid version right off. I think that this is sneaky and underhanded behavior and will not support it, no matter how good or helpful the app is. Keith On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: I hope so. Also, what does the paid version do that the free version does not do. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Laura ann Grymes, LMT agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com wrote: not yet but it may be coming soon. On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Anthony Vece wrote: Can you share photos, links and, other Facebook posts? voicebook vo FAQ http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/59-voicebook-vo-faq voicebook vo roadmap http://www.activeinfosys.com/apps/42-voicebook-vo/61-voicebook-vo-roadmap Laura Ann For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Mike, Again, apparently you don't read very well. As I said in my previous posts had he placed the price at $1.99 or $4.99 up front I would probably have bought it. If he puts a free limited version and a paid full version in the store I would buy the paid version. Your assumption that I am bitching about it costing money is totally and utterly off base. Before you go throwing the blind card I suggest that you digest what the person is attempting to impart. I have and will continue to support apps that are created for our community. Your assertion that I am one of those blinds who believe that everything for blind consumption should be handed to us without cost is incorrect and quite frankly offensive. My intent in voicing my opinion this morning was to indicate to Ben that I think he made a mistake in the way he implemented his pricing model and maybe that he should possibly rethink it, not to get into a pissing match with you or anyone else. Nuff said! Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith: Good job so drop the subject. No one had a gun to your head forcing you to buy anything. The next time something is free we will make sure it is totally free for you. We will ensure that everything you buy s free also. My guess is if it would have been $1.99 up front you would have complained about the fact that it did not have all the features you wanted and then demanded a refund. Some time you can not make everyone happy. I leanred that while working and I see it is true here too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice Apparently you don't read very well. I have removed it. On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith Remove the app and call it a day Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I am willing to pay that price. That is my point. Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there is a problem. Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. I really do like the app and wish you well. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what I've just spent time spelling out for you. Kind regards, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-06-24, at 8:25 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to continue to use the functions. Quite frankly I think this is against Apple policy and I will be asking them about this. Here in the states we have laws against bait and switch schemes. Had he offered a totally free version with limited
email on my iPhone
I'm new to the group, and have a problem even Apple can't seem to correct. When I try to access my gmail account, I get an alert saying Cann't get mail. The user name or password for ?Gmail is incorrect. I've tried reentering my account information, but to no avail. For a while, I could connect with my Wi-fi connection. But now I can't even do that. Any suggestions? Thanks. Duane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: email on my iPhone
Hi, If you are setting up your gmail account through the default gmail service on the iPhone I would suggest that you change to other and set it up as imap. Or you can use the Exchange option to connect. I switched from imap to Exchange as soon as they offered it and have had no issues since. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Duane Steele wrote: I'm new to the group, and have a problem even Apple can't seem to correct. When I try to access my gmail account, I get an alert saying Cann't get mail. The user name or password for ?Gmail is incorrect. I've tried reentering my account information, but to no avail. For a while, I could connect with my Wi-fi connection. But now I can't even do that. Any suggestions? Thanks. Duane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: email on my iPhone
don't u have to be running exchange on your computer for that to work? Hank On 6/24/2012 8:00 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Hi, If you are setting up your gmail account through the default gmail service on the iPhone I would suggest that you change to other and set it up as imap. Or you can use the Exchange option to connect. I switched from imap to Exchange as soon as they offered it and have had no issues since. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Duane Steele wrote: I'm new to the group, and have a problem even Apple can't seem to correct. When I try to access my gmail account, I get an alert saying Cann't get mail. The user name or password for ?Gmail is incorrect. I've tried reentering my account information, but to no avail. For a while, I could connect with my Wi-fi connection. But now I can't even do that. Any suggestions? Thanks. Duane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: square iphone app?
hi all i can't find this app what is it? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote: Hello I was watching tv and saw a square comercial, any one know if this is vo friendly the app? Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: email on my iPhone
Not sure what you mean. Can you walk me through the process of setting up my account? On 6/24/12, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If you are setting up your gmail account through the default gmail service on the iPhone I would suggest that you change to other and set it up as imap. Or you can use the Exchange option to connect. I switched from imap to Exchange as soon as they offered it and have had no issues since. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Duane Steele wrote: I'm new to the group, and have a problem even Apple can't seem to correct. When I try to access my gmail account, I get an alert saying Cann't get mail. The user name or password for ?Gmail is incorrect. I've tried reentering my account information, but to no avail. For a while, I could connect with my Wi-fi connection. But now I can't even do that. Any suggestions? Thanks. Duane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Questions about the Huffington Post app, was, Re: News apps.
Hi Mary, I think it was landscape that was the problem. Once I changed that all is working beautifully. I asked my sighted husband about the right and left buttons and he said they are arrows pointing right andleft probably for use with the landscape orientation, so now I just ignore them. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Kimber On 6/24/12, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kimber, Are you using huff post on an iPad or iPhone/iPod? And are you seeing these buttons that are not labeled when you first open the app, prior to selecting an edition? I don't recall seeing unlabeled buttons when I first started using this app. But now when I open the app, I certainly am not seeing any. I get At the top left, it says The Huffington Post, and top right is a button that says editions. Across the bottom are 5 tabs, front page, sections, search, favorites and settings. Front page is selected by default, and stories are in a list. You can flick or scroll through stories. The only thing I remember changing in the settings was that I turned off landscape mode. Also in settings, there is one for autohide nav bar, which is off, but I don't think I changed that. Perhaps this nav bar is what is causing your problem? I have not experienced the problem scrolling, although generally in an article, I use the two finger flick down and read continuously once I find the start of the article. That is often on the second page, as there may be images or other unwanted stuff on the first page of an article. Also, occasionally, you will run in to a slide show, and those don't work well. But regular articles, the vast majority of items that I've run across, are completely accessible here on my iPhone 4S. Once an article is open, across the top, I get the back button, the section from which the article was taken, e.g. politics, then a left and a right button. I don't know what those buttons do. Then there is the text, and after that, another row of buttons, iPhone share, which brings up a screen full of options that let you do things like tweet, email, facebook etc, the article you're reading. After the iPhone share from left to right are comment, star, text zoom in and text zoom out. I assume the star is some sort of favorites thing, although I have not used it. The share feature is really handy. Then on the very bottom left corner I get a number, such as 9,379 image. Again, not sure what that is, but it has never interfered with my ability to read articles by two finger flicking down once I've found the start of text which is generally on the second screen of an article. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Questions about the Huffington Post app, was, Re: News apps.
I never needed to move from one page to another. I just use two finger swipe and it reads the entire article. The tow buttons are for moving to other articles. The right button takes you to the next article and left to the previous article. You may just use back button to go back to the main list and choose the article based on the headline. Using left and right button takes you to the full contents of the article. - Original Message - From: Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:57 AM Subject: Questions about the Huffington Post app, was, Re: News apps. Hi Mary and All, I just downlloaded the HuffPo app and I have a couple of questions. There are a couple of buttons at the upper right of the screen that just say left button and right button. What are these buttons? Also, I don't seem to be able to move from page to page within an article with any consistency. There are buttons at the bottom of the screen for text zoom in and zoom out. I think zooming out let''s me move from page to page, but sometimes this button is dimmed and the page won't move. Any tips for using this app will be appreciated. Thanks, Kimber On 6/23/12, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I have to second the thumbs up for the huffington post app. Very accessible and it covers a huge variety of topics. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: News apps.
Right, there are some quirks but an ideal app. It even allows you to read newspapers off line. But the app is not available to all on this list. - Original Message - From: Chuck Dean To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:44 AM Subject: Re: News apps. My favorite news source is the N F B Newsline Mobile app. Here is a link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/nfb-newsline-mobile/id530470425?mt=8 This app is 100% accessible and allows access to hundreds of daily newspapers and magazines. You can read online or subscribe to particular periodicals and download them to your phone. Of course you need to be a Newsline member, but it is all free Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Differentiate between songs and audio books on i phone?
Is this for the pc or the Idevice? If for the pc, any idea where I get it from? Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: 16 June 2012 15:25 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Differentiate between songs and audio books on i phone? I would recommend the following. I tried on my Ipod touch and it works great. MP3 to iPod audio book converter -Original Message- From: Ramy Moustafa Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Differentiate between songs and audio books on i phone? HI all: I have some audio books that I need to put on my I phone, and some podcasts also, but need to know, how will I phone will know if this is an audio book or a song? By genre? Or must I do something in the audio books files to tell the I phone that this is a podcast or an audio book? Thanks in advance Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: braille displays with iPad
Hi, ask away on or off list. I should be able to help. I'm currently supporting IPad with focus blue, brailliant BI, and braille pen. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-06-23, at 11:24 AM, denise avant wrote: Hello all, I am wondering if there is someone using one of the Braille Displays with an ipad, particularly the focus 40. if so, can you contact me off list as I have some navigation questions given the ipad's layout versus that of the iphone? thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Using yahoo as the Mail Client on a 3GS
Hi list, I have a client who uses Yahoo as their mail client on their 3GS phone. I was wondering if there is an archive button in the mail-contact-calendar menu under settings that has an archive button that can be toggled on/off in order for the delete button to show up in the Yahoo mail when the in-box is opened to manager her mail? I have this option turned off for Gmail and my other account and I wanted to know if this option is available for Yahoo also. Thanks in advance. Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Hanging with friends
Hi friends: I will try to explain how I play this game. It is a hangman game, so you have to send a word to you friend and guess the word he/she sent you. To send a word, you just double tap the letters you want to create the word (you will have some letters available on the botton of the screen) and you just choose the ones you want to form your word. Your word will be displayed on the board, that is located in the middle of the screen. To guess the word sent by your friend, you have to choose from the letters of the alphabet that will be located on the botton of the screen. You will hear some questions mark on the board, they will indicate the amount of letters that the word has and the last vowew of the word will be shown on the board. For exemple, if the word is tape, you will get ???e on the board. When you guess a letter and it is on the word, you will hear a different sound from when the sord doesn't contain the letter choosen. If anyone would like to play this game with me, my username is mrodrigues81. Cheers. CC: viphone@googlegroups.com From: judy...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Games for iOS Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 02:20:57 -0500 To: viphone@googlegroups.com I would also like instructions for Hanging with Friends. Thanks. Judy Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:30 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote: I would love for someone to instruct me in playing Hanging with Friends. If you need to do this offlist, my email is sbgreen...@gmail.com My twitter username is @Shari_rocks I have downloaded the game, but don't know how to play it. Thanks a bunch. Sharonda On 6/21/12, Maria From Australia bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Do u have a link for tweet hunt? I downloaded an app called tweet hunt but all I get is music with birds tweeting. Thanks. Blessings! Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 22/06/2012, at 12:22 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Yes, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned them. smile. -- Raul A. Gallegos Some people are like Slinkies ... not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/21/2012 8:02 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: are they playable when voice over is turned off? thanks Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 21/06/2012, at 10:19 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, no. You have to turn off Voice Over. -- Raul A. Gallegos Why are they called apartments when they are all stuck together? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/20/2012 4:20 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: ski ball, duck hunt and tweet hunt these are games i haven't heard of. Are they totally accessible with vo? thanks regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.powerradio104.us http://www.powerradio104.us http://www.powerradio104.us where we play lots of great music On 20/06/2012, at 3:45 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: In that case, Skee Ball, Duck Hunt, Tweet Hunt, and Bop-It. Those are games which were not specifically designed for blind people. There are many more, but those are the first few I can think of since I just played a few earlier today. -- Raul A. Gallegos Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/19/2012 9:30 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: Typical games for blind folks. I want to play the kinds of games that sighted people play. Andy -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [SPAM]Re: Games for iOS Hi, Games from Storm8 are accessible. Then there is Blind Side, Where's my Rubber Ducky. Zany Touch, Smack Me, Bop-It, 7 little words, Moxie, Beep Beep, and Sudoku4All. There are many more, but without knowing what specifically what you are looking for, it's hard to list all. -- Raul A. Gallegos Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Really guys? Isn't this getting kind of out of hand? Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice Mike, Again, apparently you don't read very well. As I said in my previous posts had he placed the price at $1.99 or $4.99 up front I would probably have bought it. If he puts a free limited version and a paid full version in the store I would buy the paid version. Your assumption that I am bitching about it costing money is totally and utterly off base. Before you go throwing the blind card I suggest that you digest what the person is attempting to impart. I have and will continue to support apps that are created for our community. Your assertion that I am one of those blinds who believe that everything for blind consumption should be handed to us without cost is incorrect and quite frankly offensive. My intent in voicing my opinion this morning was to indicate to Ben that I think he made a mistake in the way he implemented his pricing model and maybe that he should possibly rethink it, not to get into a pissing match with you or anyone else. Nuff said! Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith: Good job so drop the subject. No one had a gun to your head forcing you to buy anything. The next time something is free we will make sure it is totally free for you. We will ensure that everything you buy s free also. My guess is if it would have been $1.99 up front you would have complained about the fact that it did not have all the features you wanted and then demanded a refund. Some time you can not make everyone happy. I leanred that while working and I see it is true here too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice Apparently you don't read very well. I have removed it. On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith Remove the app and call it a day Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I am willing to pay that price. That is my point. Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there is a problem. Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. I really do like the app and wish you well. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what I've just spent time spelling out for you. Kind regards, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-06-24, at 8:25 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Anthony, It's one app. There is not a free version and a paid version. It's fully functional for 30 days and then you have to pay $1.99 to
Re: hold and speak if using a bluetooth keyboard?
Chris, try using two fingers, one for the button, say the first finger and the second one to tap. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Chris Judd chrischas0...@charter.net To: viphone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: hold and speak if using a bluetooth keyboard? Hi all, I was wondering, is there an equivalent to using a command like double tap and hold that one can press if using a bluetooth keyboard? I have trouble using the IPhone screen, when trying to do this, my hand keeps slipping off of the button. Thanks for any help, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Yea, enough is enough. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Jenifer Gilley claudas...@gmail.com wrote: Really guys? Isn't this getting kind of out of hand? Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice Mike, Again, apparently you don't read very well. As I said in my previous posts had he placed the price at $1.99 or $4.99 up front I would probably have bought it. If he puts a free limited version and a paid full version in the store I would buy the paid version. Your assumption that I am bitching about it costing money is totally and utterly off base. Before you go throwing the blind card I suggest that you digest what the person is attempting to impart. I have and will continue to support apps that are created for our community. Your assertion that I am one of those blinds who believe that everything for blind consumption should be handed to us without cost is incorrect and quite frankly offensive. My intent in voicing my opinion this morning was to indicate to Ben that I think he made a mistake in the way he implemented his pricing model and maybe that he should possibly rethink it, not to get into a pissing match with you or anyone else. Nuff said! Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith: Good job so drop the subject. No one had a gun to your head forcing you to buy anything. The next time something is free we will make sure it is totally free for you. We will ensure that everything you buy s free also. My guess is if it would have been $1.99 up front you would have complained about the fact that it did not have all the features you wanted and then demanded a refund. Some time you can not make everyone happy. I leanred that while working and I see it is true here too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice Apparently you don't read very well. I have removed it. On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith Remove the app and call it a day Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I am willing to pay that price. That is my point. Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there is a problem. Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. I really do like the app and wish you well. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not being forced to pay any money if you just want to read posts. The only reason you pay is to post and comment. Once again, I urge you to read the email carefully, and you'll see what I've just spent time spelling out for you. Kind regards, Matthew Campbell. On 2012-06-24,
How to use the iphone in an emergency
Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Is there an app to read .xml files?
Hello list Can one read .xml files on the iPad? Regards Fanus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: square iphone app?
Its an app and card reader to be able to accept credit cards. https://squareup.com/ great for small businesses with a % fee taken out of each charge or swipe but no monthly fees. Laura Ann On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Molly Marcinick wrote: hi all i can't find this app what is it? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote: Hello I was watching tv and saw a square comercial, any one know if this is vo friendly the app? Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: How to use the iphone in an emergency
That is a very good question for which I would like to know the answer myself. Jordan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patti Johnson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: How to use the iphone in an emergency Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
choppy VO on apple tv
I wasn't sure which list to send this to, since it concerns an A tv, not a Mac or a Phone. I'm just wondering if there has ever been found a solution to the problem of VO being very choppy when used on the apple tv. I've tried this with the remote that comes with the a tv first gen and also with the remote app that works on my iPhone. And the choppy speech is really a problem. I recall some people having the problem earlier. It seemed to get a little better for me, but I haven't been using the A tv much lately except in its role as a substitute for an airport express playing music through the speakers attached to the system where the a tv is. But this morning I decided I wanted to watch something on netflix, and I found the speech was so choppy that it really made navigation difficult. Any hints on how to solve this would be really appreciated. It seemed worse when using the remote app, but since I have issues getting the little remote to do what I want, I'm apparently not pointing it precisely correctly, I was really hoping to make the remote app work so as to ditch that finicky remote. All help is appreciated. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Hanging with friends
I enjoy this game a great deal because it is interactive in a way that allows all of us to play when it is convenient. There are a few VoiceOver quirks, but nothing that prevents me from playing a competitive game with my friends! One of those quirks is that when you are creating a word for your friend to guess, there is a recall button that is found in the middle of the available letters. This allows you to cancel your word and begin from scratch. At least on my iPhone 4S, when I use this, VO does not always catch the screen update and continues to display the letters as played. To resolve the issue I tripple tap home twice to toggle VO off and then back on. This resolves the problem. Very minor. My user on Hanging With Friends is LenFB if any one would like to go a round. -Len -L -Len On 6/24/2012 9:35 AM, Marcos Rodrigues wrote: Hi friends: I will try to explain how I play this game. It is a hangman game, so you have to send a word to you friend and guess the word he/she sent you. To send a word, you just double tap the letters you want to create the word (you will have some letters available on the botton of the screen) and you just choose the ones you want to form your word. Your word will be displayed on the board, that is located in the middle of the screen. To guess the word sent by your friend, you have to choose from the letters of the alphabet that will be located on the botton of the screen. You will hear some questions mark on the board, they will indicate the amount of letters that the word has and the last vowew of the word will be shown on the board. For exemple, if the word is tape, you will get ???e on the board. When you guess a letter and it is on the word, you will hear a different sound from when the sord doesn't contain the letter choosen. If anyone would like to play this game with me, my username is mrodrigues81. Cheers. CC: viphone@googlegroups.com From: judy...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Games for iOS Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 02:20:57 -0500 To: viphone@googlegroups.com I would also like instructions for Hanging with Friends. Thanks. Judy Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:30 AM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote: I would love for someone to instruct me in playing Hanging with Friends. If you need to do this offlist, my email is sbgreen...@gmail.com My twitter username is @Shari_rocks I have downloaded the game, but don't know how to play it. Thanks a bunch. Sharonda On 6/21/12, Maria From Australia bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Do u have a link for tweet hunt? I downloaded an app called tweet hunt but all I get is music with birds tweeting. Thanks. Blessings! Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 22/06/2012, at 12:22 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Yes, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned them. smile. -- Raul A. Gallegos Some people are like Slinkies ... not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/21/2012 8:02 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: are they playable when voice over is turned off? thanks Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 21/06/2012, at 10:19 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, no. You have to turn off Voice Over. -- Raul A. Gallegos Why are they called apartments when they are all stuck together? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/20/2012 4:20 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: ski ball, duck hunt and tweet hunt these are games i haven't heard of. Are they totally accessible with vo? thanks regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.powerradio104.us http://www.powerradio104.us http://www.powerradio104.us where we play lots of great music On 20/06/2012, at 3:45 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: In that case, Skee Ball, Duck Hunt, Tweet Hunt, and Bop-It. Those are games which were not specifically designed for blind people. There are many more, but those are the first few I can think of since I just played a few earlier today. -- Raul A. Gallegos Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/19/2012 9:30 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: Typical games for blind folks. I want to
Re: choppy VO on apple tv
Mary, I cannot say that I have experienced any choppy behavior using VO on an Apple TV. I wonder if there is a pattern such as some specific action etc. where you experience or are more likely to experience this issue? On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't sure which list to send this to, since it concerns an A tv, not a Mac or a Phone. I'm just wondering if there has ever been found a solution to the problem of VO being very choppy when used on the apple tv. I've tried this with the remote that comes with the a tv first gen and also with the remote app that works on my iPhone. And the choppy speech is really a problem. I recall some people having the problem earlier. It seemed to get a little better for me, but I haven't been using the A tv much lately except in its role as a substitute for an airport express playing music through the speakers attached to the system where the a tv is. But this morning I decided I wanted to watch something on netflix, and I found the speech was so choppy that it really made navigation difficult. Any hints on how to solve this would be really appreciated. It seemed worse when using the remote app, but since I have issues getting the little remote to do what I want, I'm apparently not pointing it precisely correctly, I was really hoping to make the remote app work so as to ditch that finicky remote. All help is appreciated. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: email on my iPhone
No you don't. You're using an exchange server maintained by Google, I think. I set this up by Googling for instructions on line. I think I'm seeing a problem with my setup though. It seems like the Exchange data I'm looking at on my phone is sometimes stale. I didn't see this when I was set up with IMAP. Note that I just noticed this recently, and I still need to look at it on my mind. It's much more likely that it's something I'm messing up rather than an issue with using Exchange, but I'd be curious if anyone else has seen this behavior. On 24/06/12 10:03, Hank Smith wrote: don't u have to be running exchange on your computer for that to work? Hank On 6/24/2012 8:00 AM, Keith Watson wrote: Hi, If you are setting up your gmail account through the default gmail service on the iPhone I would suggest that you change to other and set it up as imap. Or you can use the Exchange option to connect. I switched from imap to Exchange as soon as they offered it and have had no issues since. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Duane Steele wrote: I'm new to the group, and have a problem even Apple can't seem to correct. When I try to access my gmail account, I get an alert saying Cann't get mail. The user name or password for ?Gmail is incorrect. I've tried reentering my account information, but to no avail. For a while, I could connect with my Wi-fi connection. But now I can't even do that. Any suggestions? Thanks. Duane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Trialware is not uncommon, so I wouldn't consider this a example of bait and switch or extortion. It was never stated that the app would always be free, and it didn't tie you into something like an email address or a phone number that you'd want to keep after it stopped being free. I'm not sure what Apple's policy is on this, and I think you have a point that it should have probably been clear up front that it's trialware. BTW, I like free versus paid versions of apps, but I also like trialware. I like being able to check out the benefits and accessibility of the more advanced features you only get in the paid version before I have to pay for it. On 24/06/12 09:51, Keith Watson wrote: Mike, Again, apparently you don't read very well. As I said in my previous posts had he placed the price at $1.99 or $4.99 up front I would probably have bought it. If he puts a free limited version and a paid full version in the store I would buy the paid version. Your assumption that I am bitching about it costing money is totally and utterly off base. Before you go throwing the blind card I suggest that you digest what the person is attempting to impart. I have and will continue to support apps that are created for our community. Your assertion that I am one of those blinds who believe that everything for blind consumption should be handed to us without cost is incorrect and quite frankly offensive. My intent in voicing my opinion this morning was to indicate to Ben that I think he made a mistake in the way he implemented his pricing model and maybe that he should possibly rethink it, not to get into a pissing match with you or anyone else. Nuff said! Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith: Good job so drop the subject. No one had a gun to your head forcing you to buy anything. The next time something is free we will make sure it is totally free for you. We will ensure that everything you buy s free also. My guess is if it would have been $1.99 up front you would have complained about the fact that it did not have all the features you wanted and then demanded a refund. Some time you can not make everyone happy. I leanred that while working and I see it is true here too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice Apparently you don't read very well. I have removed it. On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith Remove the app and call it a day Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I am willing to pay that price. That is my point. Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there is a problem. Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. I really do like the app and wish you well. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does have limited functionality. It states this quite clearly in the email Ben sent to the list. It says that you can read but not post. This is clearly you're limited functionality. Also, you are not
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
Come on. Haven't you people anything better to do. Knock it off. Winers and complainers. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Trialware is not uncommon, so I wouldn't consider this a example of bait and switch or extortion. It was never stated that the app would always be free, and it didn't tie you into something like an email address or a phone number that you'd want to keep after it stopped being free. I'm not sure what Apple's policy is on this, and I think you have a point that it should have probably been clear up front that it's trialware. BTW, I like free versus paid versions of apps, but I also like trialware. I like being able to check out the benefits and accessibility of the more advanced features you only get in the paid version before I have to pay for it. On 24/06/12 09:51, Keith Watson wrote: Mike, Again, apparently you don't read very well. As I said in my previous posts had he placed the price at $1.99 or $4.99 up front I would probably have bought it. If he puts a free limited version and a paid full version in the store I would buy the paid version. Your assumption that I am bitching about it costing money is totally and utterly off base. Before you go throwing the blind card I suggest that you digest what the person is attempting to impart. I have and will continue to support apps that are created for our community. Your assertion that I am one of those blinds who believe that everything for blind consumption should be handed to us without cost is incorrect and quite frankly offensive. My intent in voicing my opinion this morning was to indicate to Ben that I think he made a mistake in the way he implemented his pricing model and maybe that he should possibly rethink it, not to get into a pissing match with you or anyone else. Nuff said! Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith: Good job so drop the subject. No one had a gun to your head forcing you to buy anything. The next time something is free we will make sure it is totally free for you. We will ensure that everything you buy s free also. My guess is if it would have been $1.99 up front you would have complained about the fact that it did not have all the features you wanted and then demanded a refund. Some time you can not make everyone happy. I leanred that while working and I see it is true here too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Watson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Voicebook VO Notice Apparently you don't read very well. I have removed it. On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: Keith Remove the app and call it a day Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nowhere in the description on the app store did he indicate that there was limited functionality with in app purchases to enable additional functionality. It is my own policy not to use apps that adhere to this model. Personally I think it's a form of extortion and I don't play in that sandbox. Set a price for full functionality up front and let me decide if I am willing to pay that price. That is my point. Now on to your point. I reviewed the description in the app store when I purchased the app. Nowhere did it indicate that I was going to eventually have to pay something for what I was downloading. Now after 30 days he posts to this list that this would be happening, and the only reason he posted was because there was a bug in the app that didn't give you the correct price. Had there not been a bug I would have attempted to post something and then been prompted with a popup saying that this functionality no longer worked and if I wanted to use this functionality I would have to pay $1.99 for it. In my book this is extortion. Granted you are thinking that I am a dick and it's only 2 dollars so shut the hell up. But like I said before, had he charged me 2 dollars up front I would not be offended, insulted and disgusted. I think that our society has left principles behind, but I am old enough to have been raised by a generation that valued them and I intend to hold to mine. You and everyone do what you feel you must, me I deleted the app and am informing Apple of this behavior. If it meets there criteria then so be it. Don't think for a second that I would not and have not done this to other developers. If not for our voices then how can they know when there is a problem. Ben, should you decide to make a limited free version and a paid full featured version available on the app store I would be glad to purchase it. I really do like the app and wish you well. Keith On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi there. Hold on, slow down, and take a deep breath. This app does
Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
I know you didn't want conjecture, but I've seen several times, from people who were involved with the issue at the time, that Apple did this because they had no accessibility story and were losing out to Microsoft and PC's in government and educational contracts. When Berkley Systems went out of business or stopped developing Outspoken, the 3rd party screen reader for Macs, there was no screen reader for Apple products and no other 3rd party company was stepping in to fill the void. In order to continue to have an accessibility story, and compete with PC's for these contracts, Apple chose to enter the screen reader market themselves. Like I said, I don't have any documents to prove this, only hearsay from people who were familiar with the issue at the time. I also wouldn't expect Apple to market the above story. For whatever reason, they embraced accessibility, and they can just market their commitment to full accessibility by everyone. I also don't think this takes away at all from Apple's commitment to accessibility and what they've been able to accomplish with VoiceOver. They are a corporation after-all, and if they saw a profit in making their products accessible, there's nothing wrong with that. I agree VoiceOver is a great product, and I can understand your willingness to support a company that builds accessibility into their product, but I don't think it's leaps and bounds better than every other screen reader out there. I think this is a highly subjective opinion. On 24/06/12 07:58, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, I completely agree here. Just look at other companies, Microsoft for example, a company that claims all their products are accessible to persons with disibilities. That statement couldn't be any more wrong. I myself would much rather pay a premium for an apple product with accessibility built in out of the box, as opposed to paying the same price for another screen access solution, on top of a PC with Windows. Yes, VO isn't perfect, but it's leaps and bounds over what other companies like Freedom scientific and GW Micro could ever dream of creating. I'm sorry if my post strayed off topic, I just can't help but admit I'm also a fanboy and an Apple geek. P.S.: I can't wait to see them try to make Windows RT accessible on tablets. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Craig, I am not sure you will find a specific reason. I have heard stories that range from Apple facing a lawsuit (not likely at all) to some child of an engineer (more likely) who was blind. I suspect the real reason is that Apple saw an opportunity and opted to take a risk which I should note has paid in spades. Apple has done more than any other mainstream company has ever done. In fact I will go as far as to say that VO on an iOS device is revolutionary and really changed how blind people interact with touch-screen devices. VO has really leveled the playing field in ways no other screen reader has been able. I think Apple realized the success of VO on the Mac and heard from users they wanted access to iPods, iPhones, etc. There is no question that VO on iOS has been wildly successful. Oh and yes for the record I am a fanboy and thrilled to be such. However, for the record VO like any screen reading solution is not perfect; although it does one hell of a job. :) On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to the list. Over on the vi-kindle email list from freelists.org, a user asked a penetrating question: Why did Apple build accessibility into all of its products? Knowing the answer to this query might prove helpful as blind and visually impaired people work with other companies to make their products more accessible. I have heard that Apple made the iPod accessible because it was looking out for motorists who might be better served by finding music by touch than by diverting their gaze from the road to look at a screen. However, this information is anecdotal. Can anyone point to evidence right from the company as to why VoiceOver was integrated into the Apple line? I'm looking for the facts, not conjecture. smile Since this question is off topic, if you'll email me off list, I'll summarize to the list. Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Voicebook VO Notice
I didn't think I was either whining or complaining! I didn't attack or flame anyone. I think I was just stating my opinion and pointing out that I didn't think trial ware was all bad or was an example of extortion or bait and switch. BTW, I'd also suggest that if people want to have a topic ended or declared off topic they do that by working with the moderators off list. I've never seen individual members trying to be moderators work out well for a list. Here's what Raul said on the list a few weeks ago: Hello Everyone, As you probably know by now, Cara has asked me to help moderate the VIPhone list. Let me first say that this doesn't change how the list is run, and she's still very much the owner. I'm just here to help out. It simply means that we are trying to be more efficient in handling any questions or issues which are list related. Things usually go more smoothly when there is more than one person to help out with a large list as this. Second, I'm still a list contributor and fellow iOS user. I'll only put on my moderator's uniform when I need to. The best way you can tell if a message I'm writing to the list is of a moderated nature is if I put a moderator note in the subject line and if my signature indicates moderator. If not, then I'm just another poster like the rest of you. A little about me. I've been on this list since the summer of 2010 when I got the iPhone 3GS. It was just after the iPhone 4 came out and so the price of the 3GS had dropped. In a way I got it grudgingly because it was there and my Nokia had just died. I figured I would just use it as a phone, but wouldn't get into the apps and other neat features. I couldn't have been more wrong. If I tell you how much it changed my life or my phone usage or the way I feel about phones it would start sounding like another cliche and I don't want that. Suffice it to say, I love the iPhone and I love sharing knowledge. I now have the iPhone 4S and an iPod Touch 3rd Gen. This leads me to a few more things about me which some of you may or may not know. I am a family man with a wife, 3 kids, a dog, a cat, and a minivan. There I go into another cliche of the American life. Next I'll tell you I have a house with a big yard and I live in a quiet neighborhood. Oops, well this is true. Anyway, up until July last year I worked for GW Micro, the Window-Eyes screen reader guys. Since then I've been working from home and so have a bit more time to do other projects. I'm an avid gamer and sarcastic person, but also someone who respects others. Since I have a wife and kids, I have patience. Although, many would say it's my wife who has more because of dealing with my personality. Speaking of respect and kids, I can promise you guys that I will do my best to respect you, and to not treat anyone like a kid. Regardless of the ages of all the group members, (which by the way are quite a bit), I feel that we are all adults here and can act accordingly. When I say adult, I'm not speaking of the legal or cultural definition of adulthood, but about the maturity level. If you visit http://www.marcandangel.com/2007/08/17/what-is-adulthood-20-defining-characteristics-of-a-true-adult/ you will see what I mean. So with this in mind, Cara and I have come up with a list of guidelines for the list. I am not calling them list rules because that sounds a bit severe. And since we are all adults here, we should not have any problems keeping the following in mind when posting to the list. 1. We are all in the ballroom at VIPhone Manor. Think of the mailing list as a huge room where all the list members are hanging out and sharing ideas, experiences, asking questions, ETC about our favorite iOS devices. There is a wireless microphone being passed around and every time someone posts to the list, they hold the microphone for that glorious moment and everyone in the room gets to hear what they have to say. However if that same someone responds privately to another list member instead of posting to the list, the conversation is kept quiet and no one in the ballroom is aware of it. Please try and consider when you want to post to the list, does everyone need to hear what I have to say, or does only the person I'm having a conversation need to hear it. Lively and positive list discussion is encouraged as long as it remains on topic. Personal conversations or things which are obviously meant for one person are not. Some good examples of holding the microphone for everyone to hear are: Posting about a new app or an update to an app. Discussing good and bad points about an app or a specific iOS device. Sharing experiences about an app or a situation where the iOS device made a difference in something you did. Asking questions about the accessibility of an app. Comparing apps or iOS devices. Some not-so-good examples of holding the microphone for everyone to hear are: Posting one-liner messages such as me too, thank you, or your welcome and not adding to the discussion at
Re: Cherokee Eagle
I have Zello and have added the ViPhone channel. I found a few buttons. Are there some instructions on how to use it? It seems pretty simple. On 6/23/12, Holly thistleshamrock2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, The Xello channel is a channel on the Zello Walky Talky list. You can download Zello from the app store. There is a channel for the folks on this list. Once you have an account, click on the channels tab and on add. Then in the search field, type in viphone. The channel should be in the search results that come up. There is also achannel for applevis. Let me know if you have problems. Thanks. Holly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: square iphone app?
There is also an app by the same company called Pay by square. This app allows you to pay your bill at a participating coffee house, ice cream store, sandwich shop, etc. with out using cash or cards. The store clerk sees your picture on his cash register and enters the amount due and it is sent to your credit card. You do not have to do anything, if you have previously selected that business to run a tab. The app is accessible, and I have discovered a really great sandwich shop here in Tempe while looking for Pay By Square merchants. At the present time the list of participating merchants is limited, but growing. Chuck On Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:26:00 PM UTC-7, Hank Smith wrote: Hello I was watching tv and saw a square comercial, any one know if this is vo friendly the app? Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: News apps.
Hello all, I have the USA Today app on my iPhone 4S and it works well. However, when I downloaded it on my iPad 3 it's not VO accessible which I thought was funny since it works well on my iPhone. I wonder if I tried to get the iPhone version instead of the iPad version if that would make a difference? Has anyone experienced an app that worked fine on one iDevice and not the other? I'd be interested in knowing your experiences. Many thanks! Katey On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:07 AM, AJ pinkfloridasunr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Speaking of news apps, anyone have the USA Today app? I got it recently. It says it is vo accessible, and it is. However it always crashes before I have even read through the list of top stories of the day. Crashing seems to be vo related though, as when sighted hubby uses it, there are no problems. Glad to hear CNN and NPR work well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
if he has seri, he could have them do it. On 6/24/2012 1:44 PM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: How to use the iphone in an emergency
There are two ways I can think of. Use SIRI and say call 9 1 1 or set up a 911 contact and move it to your Favorites; make sure it's the first one in your Favorites list by moving it there. John Riehl -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patti Johnson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7242 (20120622) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
Hi Patty, Since you can call a number by voice, all you need to do is hold the home button until you hear the tone, then say, call 9 1 1. Take care, Lois -Original Message- From: Patti Johnson Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
That one still concerns me greatly. Were I in a situation where I was in an extreme hurry or being threatened, I highly doubt I would be able to dial 911 quickly. This would also hold were the ambient noise was high. Much as I love my iPhone, in an emergency I know I would fire off a call more reliably on my N82 in a pinch. For one thing, I could do it one-handed while moving quickly away. -Len On 6/24/2012 11:44 AM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
Only if it is quiet enough for Siri to function reliably. -L On 6/24/2012 11:46 AM, Michael Capelle wrote: if he has seri, he could have them do it. On 6/24/2012 1:44 PM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: choppy VO on apple tv
Hi Scott, No, the choppiness seems to be pretty much throughout navigation, in top level menuy and within menus. Words are chopped off, and not just the first word of a sentence. I have the apple tv connected to a surround sound receiver, which is connected to a big screen tv. The sound is quite normal in all other instances except VO with regard to choppiness. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
You don't need Seri to voice dial a number. I have been able to do it reliably even in a fairly noisy situation. Lois -Original Message- From: Len Burns Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency Only if it is quiet enough for Siri to function reliably. -L On 6/24/2012 11:46 AM, Michael Capelle wrote: if he has seri, he could have them do it. On 6/24/2012 1:44 PM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
Put it this way, if some one is close by yelling at you in a very loud threatening voice, anything relying upon voice dial will be less than reliable. The conditions with which one must function in an emergency very widely. If I am moving away from a danger rapidly, rapid walk slow run, I myself doubt I would be able to get to my favorites with a cane in one hand and the phone in the other, and do so quickly. This may be just me, but I hope to never have a reason to try this. -Len On 6/24/2012 11:53 AM, Lois Butterfield wrote: You don't need Seri to voice dial a number. I have been able to do it reliably even in a fairly noisy situation. Lois -Original Message- From: Len Burns Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency Only if it is quiet enough for Siri to function reliably. -L On 6/24/2012 11:46 AM, Michael Capelle wrote: if he has seri, he could have them do it. On 6/24/2012 1:44 PM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
It might be suggested to Apple that this is the sort of thing that would be more useful in the lock screen, potentially more use than the camera! But a link, one you could set your number of choice in under settings, so that tapping it would just dial it and make the call straight off. I wonder you can't make links on the main screen like you can drag url links; but again, with just the phone number, it can usually figure one of those out and dial if prompted. - Original Message - From: Len Burns len.bu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:49 PM Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency That one still concerns me greatly. Were I in a situation where I was in an extreme hurry or being threatened, I highly doubt I would be able to dial 911 quickly. This would also hold were the ambient noise was high. Much as I love my iPhone, in an emergency I know I would fire off a call more reliably on my N82 in a pinch. For one thing, I could do it one-handed while moving quickly away. -Len On 6/24/2012 11:44 AM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
Hi, I have an iphone 4. Unfortunately, the voice command on my device is not always reliable. There are times when I try to use it, and it is unresponsive. Turning the ihpone off and restarting it corrects the issue. So, for all the things the iphone can do, making calls isn't one of its strongest points. smile Crystal - Original Message - From: Len Burns len.bu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:49 PM Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency Only if it is quiet enough for Siri to function reliably. -L On 6/24/2012 11:46 AM, Michael Capelle wrote: if he has seri, he could have them do it. On 6/24/2012 1:44 PM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: hold and speak if using a bluetooth keyboard?
A split tap is not going to work for the double tap and hold gesture in my experience. I have not found this to be a limiting issue, but proved it not to work through experimentation. So tapping with one finger and then holding that while tapping with another finger to acomplish the double tap and then holding that will not produce the double tap and hold result. On 6/24/12, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote: Chris, try using two fingers, one for the button, say the first finger and the second one to tap. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Chris Judd chrischas0...@charter.net To: viphone list viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: hold and speak if using a bluetooth keyboard? Hi all, I was wondering, is there an equivalent to using a command like double tap and hold that one can press if using a bluetooth keyboard? I have trouble using the IPhone screen, when trying to do this, my hand keeps slipping off of the button. Thanks for any help, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack?
Hi list, I bought a male to male audio cable on Ebay, to use for hooking my iPhone up to the auxiliary input on a radio, which lets me use it as a large speaker. That's all fine, except I plugged the cable in, and part of the tip came off! It's down in the Headphone jack; I have no Bluetooth headset either. This thing came from Hong Kong, and is the shodiest cable I've ever seen! I think the tip is gold. I also have no way to call apple, since my iPhone is my only phone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
If Siri works, he could do it. My experience since Siri came out is that when I need it most it works least. It seems fine when I am at home and on Wi-Fi, but when I am away and in a noisy environment or cannot type efficiently, then it does not work. I understand it is still Beta, and that has been apples claim so far, but they are spending millions of dollars to get people to use something that does not work as advertised. Telephone: (614)522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On Jun 24, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Michael Capelle michael.cape...@charter.net wrote: if he has seri, he could have them do it. On 6/24/2012 1:44 PM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: How to use the iphone in an emergency
It might be good to ask the person what kind of emergencies he is concerned with. If he doesn't know, then it might be useful to discuss the kinds of emergencies he might find himself in and when he would be using the phone. If there is an emergency, the first priority isn't to call 911. Instead the first priority is to seek as much safety as you can in that situation. I noticed some situations were mentioned in this chain of e-mails. For example, if someone is physically threatening you face-to-face, it's more important you do what you can to protect yourself physically in that situation than it is to call 911. If you need to run, focus on running. Don't allow yourself to split your focus. Calling 911 under those circumstances isn't going to help you. It's going to take emergency services a while to get there so you want to make yourself as safe as possible until they can respond. Once you have some level of safety, then you can think about dialing 911. At that point, you should have plenty of time to use whatever method you want to call 911. That may be the best way to answer that question for the person. Just the thought of emergencies can be scary and a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what they can and can't do or what will happen during an emergency. The first step is safety and stabilization. After you do what you can about that, then you call. and under those circumstances, you will have what time you need to call 911 as well as provide them with information so they can respond in the best way possible. And regarding noisy environments, I always keep earbuds either in my pocket or wrapped around my wrist just in case I'm in a really noisy environment and want to make it easier to hear the iPhone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
Hello all I have a passcode lock set on my iPhone 4. In the enter passcoe window there is an emergency call button. Double tapping on this appears to bring up the phone app enough to be able to call the local emergency services, which is 9 9 9 here in the UK. On 24/06/2012 18:11, Patti Johnson wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: How to use the iphone in an emergency
I had a reason to try this sort of thing on a previous phone that the only way to dial was the touch screen, and I had problems dialing. I tried doing something, I think dial a number, while walking somewhere on the iPhone, and it was doable but slow. I doubt I could do it if I was trying to get away from something or somebody. Jordan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Len Burns Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency Put it this way, if some one is close by yelling at you in a very loud threatening voice, anything relying upon voice dial will be less than reliable. The conditions with which one must function in an emergency very widely. If I am moving away from a danger rapidly, rapid walk slow run, I myself doubt I would be able to get to my favorites with a cane in one hand and the phone in the other, and do so quickly. This may be just me, but I hope to never have a reason to try this. -Len On 6/24/2012 11:53 AM, Lois Butterfield wrote: You don't need Seri to voice dial a number. I have been able to do it reliably even in a fairly noisy situation. Lois -Original Message- From: Len Burns Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency Only if it is quiet enough for Siri to function reliably. -L On 6/24/2012 11:46 AM, Michael Capelle wrote: if he has seri, he could have them do it. On 6/24/2012 1:44 PM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: How to use the iphone in an emergency
You bring up a good point there. I think Apple needs that feature. It was nice having basically that idea on my Android phone. Jordan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Harris Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency It might be suggested to Apple that this is the sort of thing that would be more useful in the lock screen, potentially more use than the camera! But a link, one you could set your number of choice in under settings, so that tapping it would just dial it and make the call straight off. I wonder you can't make links on the main screen like you can drag url links; but again, with just the phone number, it can usually figure one of those out and dial if prompted. - Original Message - From: Len Burns len.bu...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:49 PM Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency That one still concerns me greatly. Were I in a situation where I was in an extreme hurry or being threatened, I highly doubt I would be able to dial 911 quickly. This would also hold were the ambient noise was high. Much as I love my iPhone, in an emergency I know I would fire off a call more reliably on my N82 in a pinch. For one thing, I could do it one-handed while moving quickly away. -Len On 6/24/2012 11:44 AM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack?
I hope I never have a situation to try this, and I say: Try at your own risk. I can't emphasize try at your own risk enough, either it will work, or have the potential to make the situation worse. But I think there is a possibility it will work. I thought it up when I heard of somebody's husband breaking off her cord's plug in her XM satellite receiver. We didn't get to try the following, being that I didn't know about it until after they had thrown the whole thing in the trash. Being totally blind, I definitely would get competent sighted assistance for this one. And I would do several dry runs first. But get a toothpick and some instant glue. Put a very small drop of instant glue onto the toothpick, and stick to a point as near the center of this broken off connector as possible. The flatter it broke off, the better. You certainly don't want any of this glue to get into the jack, so if I were doing it, I would hold the phone in such a way that it is above the toothpick, and lower the phone onto the toothpick. Hopefully, any extra glue will run down the toothpick and not into the jack. Wait a few seconds, and see if you can pull the whole mess out. I think you might have one shot only. Again, I say try at your own risk. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Gail the U. S. Male gailcrowe1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:13 PM Subject: RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? Hi list, I bought a male to male audio cable on Ebay, to use for hooking my iPhone up to the auxiliary input on a radio, which lets me use it as a large speaker. That's all fine, except I plugged the cable in, and part of the tip came off! It's down in the Headphone jack; I have no Bluetooth headset either. This thing came from Hong Kong, and is the shodiest cable I've ever seen! I think the tip is gold. I also have no way to call apple, since my iPhone is my only phone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
Hello, I totally agree here. It would have been easy, and truth be told, probably more profitable, if they decided to put out a weak screen reader, something like Windows Narrator for example, you know, just enough to satisfy the letter of the law and move on to other things. Instead, they decided to do it right, and put forth the resources and effort to make top notch screen readers. I think for that they should be commended. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 24, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I know you didn't want conjecture, but I've seen several times, from people who were involved with the issue at the time, that Apple did this because they had no accessibility story and were losing out to Microsoft and PC's in government and educational contracts. When Berkley Systems went out of business or stopped developing Outspoken, the 3rd party screen reader for Macs, there was no screen reader for Apple products and no other 3rd party company was stepping in to fill the void. In order to continue to have an accessibility story, and compete with PC's for these contracts, Apple chose to enter the screen reader market themselves. Like I said, I don't have any documents to prove this, only hearsay from people who were familiar with the issue at the time. I also wouldn't expect Apple to market the above story. For whatever reason, they embraced accessibility, and they can just market their commitment to full accessibility by everyone. I also don't think this takes away at all from Apple's commitment to accessibility and what they've been able to accomplish with VoiceOver. They are a corporation after-all, and if they saw a profit in making their products accessible, there's nothing wrong with that. I agree VoiceOver is a great product, and I can understand your willingness to support a company that builds accessibility into their product, but I don't think it's leaps and bounds better than every other screen reader out there. I think this is a highly subjective opinion. On 24/06/12 07:58, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, I completely agree here. Just look at other companies, Microsoft for example, a company that claims all their products are accessible to persons with disabilities. That statement couldn't be any more wrong. I myself would much rather pay a premium for an apple product with accessibility built in out of the box, as opposed to paying the same price for another screen access solution, on top of a PC with Windows. Yes, VO isn't perfect, but it's leaps and bounds over what other companies like Freedom scientific and GW Micro could ever dream of creating. I'm sorry if my post strayed off topic, I just can't help but admit I'm also a fanboy and an Apple geek. P.S.: I can't wait to see them try to make Windows RT accessible on tablets. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Craig, I am not sure you will find a specific reason. I have heard stories that range from Apple facing a lawsuit (not likely at all) to some child of an engineer (more likely) who was blind. I suspect the real reason is that Apple saw an opportunity and opted to take a risk which I should note has paid in spades. Apple has done more than any other mainstream company has ever done. In fact I will go as far as to say that VO on an iOS device is revolutionary and really changed how blind people interact with touch-screen devices. VO has really leveled the playing field in ways no other screen reader has been able. I think Apple realized the success of VO on the Mac and heard from users they wanted access to iPods, iPhones, etc. There is no question that VO on iOS has been wildly successful. Oh and yes for the record I am a fanboy and thrilled to be such. However, for the record VO like any screen reading solution is not perfect; although it does one hell of a job. :) On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to the list. Over on the vi-kindle email list from freelists.org, a user asked a penetrating question: Why did Apple build accessibility into all of its products? Knowing the answer to this query might prove helpful as blind and visually impaired people work with other companies to make their products more accessible. I have heard that Apple made the iPod accessible because it was looking out for motorists who might be better served by finding music by touch than by diverting their gaze from the road to look at a screen. However, this information is anecdotal. Can anyone point to evidence right from the company as to why VoiceOver was integrated into the Apple line? I'm looking for the facts, not
RE: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
Christopher, Your recollection is dead on. I was managing an Apple computer lab at a city college back in those days and Apple was, indeed, losing out on government contracts. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 11:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? I know you didn't want conjecture, but I've seen several times, from people who were involved with the issue at the time, that Apple did this because they had no accessibility story and were losing out to Microsoft and PC's in government and educational contracts. When Berkley Systems went out of business or stopped developing Outspoken, the 3rd party screen reader for Macs, there was no screen reader for Apple products and no other 3rd party company was stepping in to fill the void. In order to continue to have an accessibility story, and compete with PC's for these contracts, Apple chose to enter the screen reader market themselves. Like I said, I don't have any documents to prove this, only hearsay from people who were familiar with the issue at the time. I also wouldn't expect Apple to market the above story. For whatever reason, they embraced accessibility, and they can just market their commitment to full accessibility by everyone. I also don't think this takes away at all from Apple's commitment to accessibility and what they've been able to accomplish with VoiceOver. They are a corporation after-all, and if they saw a profit in making their products accessible, there's nothing wrong with that. I agree VoiceOver is a great product, and I can understand your willingness to support a company that builds accessibility into their product, but I don't think it's leaps and bounds better than every other screen reader out there. I think this is a highly subjective opinion. On 24/06/12 07:58, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, I completely agree here. Just look at other companies, Microsoft for example, a company that claims all their products are accessible to persons with disibilities. That statement couldn't be any more wrong. I myself would much rather pay a premium for an apple product with accessibility built in out of the box, as opposed to paying the same price for another screen access solution, on top of a PC with Windows. Yes, VO isn't perfect, but it's leaps and bounds over what other companies like Freedom scientific and GW Micro could ever dream of creating. I'm sorry if my post strayed off topic, I just can't help but admit I'm also a fanboy and an Apple geek. P.S.: I can't wait to see them try to make Windows RT accessible on tablets. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Craig, I am not sure you will find a specific reason. I have heard stories that range from Apple facing a lawsuit (not likely at all) to some child of an engineer (more likely) who was blind. I suspect the real reason is that Apple saw an opportunity and opted to take a risk which I should note has paid in spades. Apple has done more than any other mainstream company has ever done. In fact I will go as far as to say that VO on an iOS device is revolutionary and really changed how blind people interact with touch-screen devices. VO has really leveled the playing field in ways no other screen reader has been able. I think Apple realized the success of VO on the Mac and heard from users they wanted access to iPods, iPhones, etc. There is no question that VO on iOS has been wildly successful. Oh and yes for the record I am a fanboy and thrilled to be such. However, for the record VO like any screen reading solution is not perfect; although it does one hell of a job. :) On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to the list. Over on the vi-kindle email list from freelists.org, a user asked a penetrating question: Why did Apple build accessibility into all of its products? Knowing the answer to this query might prove helpful as blind and visually impaired people work with other companies to make their products more accessible. I have heard that Apple made the iPod accessible because it was looking out for motorists who might be better served by finding music by touch than by diverting their gaze from the road to look at a screen. However, this information is anecdotal. Can anyone point to evidence right from the company as to why VoiceOver was integrated into the Apple line? I'm looking for the facts, not conjecture. smile Since this question is off topic, if you'll email me off list, I'll summarize to the list. Thank you for all help. Craig -- You received this message
RE: Differentiate between songs and audio books on i phone?
Thanks very much, got it now. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: 17 June 2012 15:19 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Differentiate between songs and audio books on i phone? From http://www.freeipodsoftware.com/ -Original Message- From: John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Differentiate between songs and audio books on i phone? Where does one get this program? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Differentiate between songs and audio books on i phone? I use: MP3 to iPod/iPhone Audio Book Converter converts any number of MP3 files into one big iPod Audio Book File. The advantage of doing this is that you can make use of the advanced audio book functionality of your iPod. Your iPod or iPhone remembers the last position you were listening in your audio book. So you can alway start listening where you stopped the last time. Even if you were listening to music or another audio book in the meantime. Read more about your iPod's Audio Book features . This feature gets really valuable for audio books consiting of many small files. With this software you can combine all this files to a single file and you don't have to worry anymore on which file you stopped listening the last time. MP3 to iPod Audio Book Converter runs on Windows 98, Me, 2000, XP, Vista and Windows 7. There is no version for Mac or Linux yet. -Original Message- From: Maria Chapman Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Differentiate between songs and audio books on i phone? Hi. it's much easier in my opinion to get something that will join your audio book parts in to 1 book. for the mac i use audio book builder. For windows i used to use chapter and verse, but any programme that will join mp3 files would work. once you have joined all the parts, add it to your iTunes library and tell iTunes it's an audio book by pressing control, or command i and navigating to the tab where you cam change the media type to audio book. anyone who has a better and clearer explanation feel free to jump in. God Bless! Maria from australia Newbie mac user. bubbygirl1...@gmail.com will get you fb as well as email iMessage. skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 16/06/2012, at 10:28 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Ok but how can I mark these files to make the I tune understand that these files are the files that I need? I have an audio book divided to about 13 mp3 files, Can u give me an example of what will I do please? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
Hi, I would never recommend using a voice dial app as good as Siri is, to dial 911.. I think you are inviting trouble. Its hard enough talking calm so a person can understand you let alone poor Siri. Like another suggested, you can put 911 as a favorite in your phone app. I think this might save one some time. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 24, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Michael Capelle michael.cape...@charter.net wrote: if he has seri, he could have them do it. On 6/24/2012 1:44 PM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
Hi, I can dial 911 1 handed on an iPhone. Actually, most of the time while navigating, I'm only using 1 hand. That being said, there is no question in my mind that you can dial 911 faster on a phone with a physical number pad than a smart phone that doesn't have one. Just do to the fact you have to first open a menu, and possibly select the keypad or favorites tab depending on what tab you were last in if using an iPhone. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 24, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Len Burns len.bu...@gmail.com wrote: That one still concerns me greatly. Were I in a situation where I was in an extreme hurry or being threatened, I highly doubt I would be able to dial 911 quickly. This would also hold were the ambient noise was high. Much as I love my iPhone, in an emergency I know I would fire off a call more reliably on my N82 in a pinch. For one thing, I could do it one-handed while moving quickly away. -Len On 6/24/2012 11:44 AM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iPhone and could''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack?
I wouldn't even try anything. I'd take it to the apple store and see if they can do it. Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? I hope I never have a situation to try this, and I say: Try at your own risk. I can't emphasize try at your own risk enough, either it will work, or have the potential to make the situation worse. But I think there is a possibility it will work. I thought it up when I heard of somebody's husband breaking off her cord's plug in her XM satellite receiver. We didn't get to try the following, being that I didn't know about it until after they had thrown the whole thing in the trash. Being totally blind, I definitely would get competent sighted assistance for this one. And I would do several dry runs first. But get a toothpick and some instant glue. Put a very small drop of instant glue onto the toothpick, and stick to a point as near the center of this broken off connector as possible. The flatter it broke off, the better. You certainly don't want any of this glue to get into the jack, so if I were doing it, I would hold the phone in such a way that it is above the toothpick, and lower the phone onto the toothpick. Hopefully, any extra glue will run down the toothpick and not into the jack. Wait a few seconds, and see if you can pull the whole mess out. I think you might have one shot only. Again, I say try at your own risk. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Gail the U. S. Male gailcrowe1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:13 PM Subject: RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? Hi list, I bought a male to male audio cable on Ebay, to use for hooking my iPhone up to the auxiliary input on a radio, which lets me use it as a large speaker. That's all fine, except I plugged the cable in, and part of the tip came off! It's down in the Headphone jack; I have no Bluetooth headset either. This thing came from Hong Kong, and is the shodiest cable I've ever seen! I think the tip is gold. I also have no way to call apple, since my iPhone is my only phone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
How to use the iphone in an emergency
You don't need SIRI to voice dial 911. you can just press and hold the home button until the phone vibrates and dings, then say dial (or call) 9 1 1. That's it. Voiceover will say dialing 9 1 1 (assuming it heard you correctly) and proceed to make the call. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack?
Hi, If possible I'd suggest that you take it to someone (Doesn't have to be Apple) who can take it apart and hopefully get it out. Depending on your phone, its possible to purchase the jack and microphone? as one unit which connects to the board on the phone. Having said this, if I *had* to get it out myself, I'd probably use a very small pear of needee nose pliers to try and lift the plug out. Good luck keep us posted. Cheers, Ben. On 6/24/12, Jenifer Gilley claudas...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't even try anything. I'd take it to the apple store and see if they can do it. Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? I hope I never have a situation to try this, and I say: Try at your own risk. I can't emphasize try at your own risk enough, either it will work, or have the potential to make the situation worse. But I think there is a possibility it will work. I thought it up when I heard of somebody's husband breaking off her cord's plug in her XM satellite receiver. We didn't get to try the following, being that I didn't know about it until after they had thrown the whole thing in the trash. Being totally blind, I definitely would get competent sighted assistance for this one. And I would do several dry runs first. But get a toothpick and some instant glue. Put a very small drop of instant glue onto the toothpick, and stick to a point as near the center of this broken off connector as possible. The flatter it broke off, the better. You certainly don't want any of this glue to get into the jack, so if I were doing it, I would hold the phone in such a way that it is above the toothpick, and lower the phone onto the toothpick. Hopefully, any extra glue will run down the toothpick and not into the jack. Wait a few seconds, and see if you can pull the whole mess out. I think you might have one shot only. Again, I say try at your own risk. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Gail the U. S. Male gailcrowe1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:13 PM Subject: RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? Hi list, I bought a male to male audio cable on Ebay, to use for hooking my iPhone up to the auxiliary input on a radio, which lets me use it as a large speaker. That's all fine, except I plugged the cable in, and part of the tip came off! It's down in the Headphone jack; I have no Bluetooth headset either. This thing came from Hong Kong, and is the shodiest cable I've ever seen! I think the tip is gold. I also have no way to call apple, since my iPhone is my only phone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
iPhone apps vs iPad apps
Hello list, I wrote in earlier and asked if there was a difference between iPhone apps and iPad ones, well upon further exploration I found a tab at the top of my app store under apps that are not on the iPad vs the iPhone, and apparently there is in fact a USA Today app for the iPad and another one for the iPhone. So, I was able to get the iPhone one for my iPad and it's working with voice over again. :) I have some useable vision and see my game apps such as Tetris and Ms. Pac Man! Yay! I can use all these apps and expand them to full screen versions. My fiance who doesn't have an iPhone was able to look under iPhone apps was able to get the free version of scrabble - a game I played with him on my iPhone with my high powered reading glasses, which I paied $10 for an iPad version because when I searched for scrabble in iPad apps they didn't tell me about the free one, and it didn't show up under iPad/iPhone apps under the apps I had on my iphone. Sort of sneaky of them but now I know I can search under iPad vs iPhone apps. Yes, I was able to convince him to get a iPad of his own even though he's sighted and uses a droid phone. So, through the past few years we've discovered that both platforms have similar of the same apps which is how e played scrabble free between the two platforms. Katey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
This is one of the reasons why I choose to carry and use both an iPhone and a Nokia N82. A friend of mine calls this the 2 line solution and it works quite well for me. The iPhone and all the apps and features are great but the phone part of it, in my personal opinion, is not so great. I prefer to use a phone like the N82 with buttons for phone related operations such as calling, texting etc. I realize that this isn't for everyone but but this combination takes care of most of my communications, daily living and travel needs. Oh and in case you're wondering, if I had to choose one or the other I would obviously go with the iPhone since it is a modern, still evolving and supported accessible platform but as long as I can still get away with using a phone like the N82 for my phone needs I will continue to do so right along side the iPhone. Julian . On 6/24/12, Len Burns len.bu...@gmail.com wrote: That one still concerns me greatly. Were I in a situation where I was in an extreme hurry or being threatened, I highly doubt I would be able to dial 911 quickly. This would also hold were the ambient noise was high. Much as I love my iPhone, in an emergency I know I would fire off a call more reliably on my N82 in a pinch. For one thing, I could do it one-handed while moving quickly away. -Len On 6/24/2012 11:44 AM, Patti Johnson wrote: The question came from a person who had just seen his first iphone and couldn''t figure out how a person would dial a number like 911 quickly, I think and he said he thought there would be no way a person could do that or call anybody else if they didn't have time. Patti On 6/24/2012 2:03 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: Hi Patty; You use the iPhone the same way you use it in any other situation. You don't need to do anything different except use a little common sense. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Patti Johnson pat1...@insightbb.com wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
Yes, Apple's accessibility story is quite remarkable. They went from absolutely deplorable to being (what I think can be justified) the leader in producing accessible mainstream technology. My recollection is similar. In fact, I would add that at one point Jobs got rid of Apple's entire accessibility group. When Apple released OSX, there wasn't any screen reader available for that version and no one seemed interested in working on one. Honestly, based on Apple's reputation at the time, I know I wouldn't have wanted to work on a team producing a screen reader for OSX even if it was fully funded up front. They went from that to where they are now. That is definitely a praise worthy story. And hopefully, their success will cause others to do something similar. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Christopher, Your recollection is dead on. I was managing an Apple computer lab at a city college back in those days and Apple was, indeed, losing out on government contracts. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 11:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? I know you didn't want conjecture, but I've seen several times, from people who were involved with the issue at the time, that Apple did this because they had no accessibility story and were losing out to Microsoft and PC's in government and educational contracts. When Berkley Systems went out of business or stopped developing Outspoken, the 3rd party screen reader for Macs, there was no screen reader for Apple products and no other 3rd party company was stepping in to fill the void. In order to continue to have an accessibility story, and compete with PC's for these contracts, Apple chose to enter the screen reader market themselves. Like I said, I don't have any documents to prove this, only hearsay from people who were familiar with the issue at the time. I also wouldn't expect Apple to market the above story. For whatever reason, they embraced accessibility, and they can just market their commitment to full accessibility by everyone. I also don't think this takes away at all from Apple's commitment to accessibility and what they've been able to accomplish with VoiceOver. They are a corporation after-all, and if they saw a profit in making their products accessible, there's nothing wrong with that. I agree VoiceOver is a great product, and I can understand your willingness to support a company that builds accessibility into their product, but I don't think it's leaps and bounds better than every other screen reader out there. I think this is a highly subjective opinion. On 24/06/12 07:58, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, I completely agree here. Just look at other companies, Microsoft for example, a company that claims all their products are accessible to persons with disibilities. That statement couldn't be any more wrong. I myself would much rather pay a premium for an apple product with accessibility built in out of the box, as opposed to paying the same price for another screen access solution, on top of a PC with Windows. Yes, VO isn't perfect, but it's leaps and bounds over what other companies like Freedom scientific and GW Micro could ever dream of creating. I'm sorry if my post strayed off topic, I just can't help but admit I'm also a fanboy and an Apple geek. P.S.: I can't wait to see them try to make Windows RT accessible on tablets. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Craig, I am not sure you will find a specific reason. I have heard stories that range from Apple facing a lawsuit (not likely at all) to some child of an engineer (more likely) who was blind. I suspect the real reason is that Apple saw an opportunity and opted to take a risk which I should note has paid in spades. Apple has done more than any other mainstream company has ever done. In fact I will go as far as to say that VO on an iOS device is revolutionary and really changed how blind people interact with touch-screen devices. VO has really leveled the playing field in ways no other screen reader has been able. I think Apple realized the success of VO on the Mac and heard from users they wanted access to iPods, iPhones, etc. There is no question that VO on iOS has been wildly successful. Oh and yes for the record I am a fanboy and thrilled to be such. However, for the record VO like any screen reading solution is not perfect; although it does one hell of a
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
Interesting solution, use the passcode lock hah? it's the nearest thing so far. - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 8:36 PM Subject: Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency Hello all I have a passcode lock set on my iPhone 4. In the enter passcoe window there is an emergency call button. Double tapping on this appears to bring up the phone app enough to be able to call the local emergency services, which is 9 9 9 here in the UK. On 24/06/2012 18:11, Patti Johnson wrote: Some one asked me how a person could use an iphone i they had an emergency. I thought that a good question,. Patti -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack?
I have an iPhone four, and it's out of warranty, since Money has been extremely tight for the last couple of months, and I couldn't afford the apple care agreement. I'll probably go down to my apple store tomorrow, and talk to them about it. I was also thinking about purchasing a very inexpensive Bluetooth headset, until I can save the money to get it fixed, depending on how much it costs. I'm not looking forward to this trip at all, since it's over 100 degrees today, and is supposed to be 104 tomorrow, and I can't handle heat well! LOL! What's the cheapest Bluetooth headset out there? I can probably get sighted help to pair the devices. Some day, I want a nice, accessible headset. I won't ever buy cables from an ebay store from hong Kong again, that's for sure! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? Hi, If possible I'd suggest that you take it to someone (Doesn't have to be Apple) who can take it apart and hopefully get it out. Depending on your phone, its possible to purchase the jack and microphone? as one unit which connects to the board on the phone. Having said this, if I *had* to get it out myself, I'd probably use a very small pear of needee nose pliers to try and lift the plug out. Good luck keep us posted. Cheers, Ben. On 6/24/12, Jenifer Gilley claudas...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't even try anything. I'd take it to the apple store and see if they can do it. Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? I hope I never have a situation to try this, and I say: Try at your own risk. I can't emphasize try at your own risk enough, either it will work, or have the potential to make the situation worse. But I think there is a possibility it will work. I thought it up when I heard of somebody's husband breaking off her cord's plug in her XM satellite receiver. We didn't get to try the following, being that I didn't know about it until after they had thrown the whole thing in the trash. Being totally blind, I definitely would get competent sighted assistance for this one. And I would do several dry runs first. But get a toothpick and some instant glue. Put a very small drop of instant glue onto the toothpick, and stick to a point as near the center of this broken off connector as possible. The flatter it broke off, the better. You certainly don't want any of this glue to get into the jack, so if I were doing it, I would hold the phone in such a way that it is above the toothpick, and lower the phone onto the toothpick. Hopefully, any extra glue will run down the toothpick and not into the jack. Wait a few seconds, and see if you can pull the whole mess out. I think you might have one shot only. Again, I say try at your own risk. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Gail the U. S. Male gailcrowe1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:13 PM Subject: RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? Hi list, I bought a male to male audio cable on Ebay, to use for hooking my iPhone up to the auxiliary input on a radio, which lets me use it as a large speaker. That's all fine, except I plugged the cable in, and part of the tip came off! It's down in the Headphone jack; I have no Bluetooth headset either. This thing came from Hong Kong, and is the shodiest cable I've ever seen! I think the tip is gold. I also have no way to call apple, since my iPhone is my only phone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public
Re: notation
Hey Scott, I'd say use GoodFeel, but it is EXTREMELY overpriced, and I'm extremely disappointed in Dancing Dots at the moment, as I have to pay a $400 upgrade for GoodFeel to work on Windows 7 64 bit on my laptop. Sorry if I can't think of anything, I wish you luck in the years to come! :) Macy McClain Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Stephanie Mitchell mumwith2k...@gmail.com wrote: I too would love to know if there is anything. As a composer and person looking to start teaching piano, I could do with this. I don't have a windows pc any more, so have no way of composing music and printing it. Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iPhone apps vs iPad apps
You can use IPhone apps on the IPad but may loose some resolution. I understand that if there is a+ by the app then it is optamized for all devices. On 6/24/12, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, I wrote in earlier and asked if there was a difference between iPhone apps and iPad ones, well upon further exploration I found a tab at the top of my app store under apps that are not on the iPad vs the iPhone, and apparently there is in fact a USA Today app for the iPad and another one for the iPhone. So, I was able to get the iPhone one for my iPad and it's working with voice over again. :) I have some useable vision and see my game apps such as Tetris and Ms. Pac Man! Yay! I can use all these apps and expand them to full screen versions. My fiance who doesn't have an iPhone was able to look under iPhone apps was able to get the free version of scrabble - a game I played with him on my iPhone with my high powered reading glasses, which I paied $10 for an iPad version because when I searched for scrabble in iPad apps they didn't tell me about the free one, and it didn't show up under iPad/iPhone apps under the apps I had on my iphone. Sort of sneaky of them but now I know I can search under iPad vs iPhone apps. Yes, I was able to convince him to get a iPad of his own even though he's sighted and uses a droid phone. So, through the past few years we've discovered that both platforms have similar of the same apps which is how e played scrabble free between the two platforms. Katey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
using the Chase app to make a deposit
Hello, We are trying to deposit a check using the Chase app and are both blind. It is not working, keeps saying there is an error, and if it persists you may have to take the check to a Chase branch. I assume the front of the check has the name, amount, etc.? What kind of tips can anyone give? It says to double tap to focus when you take a picture of the front and back of the check but never says autofocus or gives an indication it is correctly focused so it seems to be just a guess as to whether or not it works. I have a 3GS and my wife has a 4. We've tried mine only; would the 4 be better? Again any tips are greatly needed and appreciated. Thanks. Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to use the iphone in an emergency
All very good advice, thank you! - Original Message - From: Timothy Harshbarger tsha...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 8:36 PM Subject: RE: How to use the iphone in an emergency It might be good to ask the person what kind of emergencies he is concerned with. If he doesn't know, then it might be useful to discuss the kinds of emergencies he might find himself in and when he would be using the phone. If there is an emergency, the first priority isn't to call 911. Instead the first priority is to seek as much safety as you can in that situation. I noticed some situations were mentioned in this chain of e-mails. For example, if someone is physically threatening you face-to-face, it's more important you do what you can to protect yourself physically in that situation than it is to call 911. If you need to run, focus on running. Don't allow yourself to split your focus. Calling 911 under those circumstances isn't going to help you. It's going to take emergency services a while to get there so you want to make yourself as safe as possible until they can respond. Once you have some level of safety, then you can think about dialing 911. At that point, you should have plenty of time to use whatever method you want to call 911. That may be the best way to answer that question for the person. Just the thought of emergencies can be scary and a lot of people have unrealistic expectations of what they can and can't do or what will happen during an emergency. The first step is safety and stabilization. After you do what you can about that, then you call. and under those circumstances, you will have what time you need to call 911 as well as provide them with information so they can respond in the best way possible. And regarding noisy environments, I always keep earbuds either in my pocket or wrapped around my wrist just in case I'm in a really noisy environment and want to make it easier to hear the iPhone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack?
Are there any threads on the part that came out. I just wonder if there is a chance that something unscrewed. Maybe if that's the case, it could be screwed back together and brought out? Good luck. Lois -Original Message- From: Gail the U. S. Male Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 4:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? I have an iPhone four, and it's out of warranty, since Money has been extremely tight for the last couple of months, and I couldn't afford the apple care agreement. I'll probably go down to my apple store tomorrow, and talk to them about it. I was also thinking about purchasing a very inexpensive Bluetooth headset, until I can save the money to get it fixed, depending on how much it costs. I'm not looking forward to this trip at all, since it's over 100 degrees today, and is supposed to be 104 tomorrow, and I can't handle heat well! LOL! What's the cheapest Bluetooth headset out there? I can probably get sighted help to pair the devices. Some day, I want a nice, accessible headset. I won't ever buy cables from an ebay store from hong Kong again, that's for sure! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? Hi, If possible I'd suggest that you take it to someone (Doesn't have to be Apple) who can take it apart and hopefully get it out. Depending on your phone, its possible to purchase the jack and microphone? as one unit which connects to the board on the phone. Having said this, if I *had* to get it out myself, I'd probably use a very small pear of needee nose pliers to try and lift the plug out. Good luck keep us posted. Cheers, Ben. On 6/24/12, Jenifer Gilley claudas...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't even try anything. I'd take it to the apple store and see if they can do it. Jenifer Gilley email claudas...@gmail.com MSN: claudas...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? I hope I never have a situation to try this, and I say: Try at your own risk. I can't emphasize try at your own risk enough, either it will work, or have the potential to make the situation worse. But I think there is a possibility it will work. I thought it up when I heard of somebody's husband breaking off her cord's plug in her XM satellite receiver. We didn't get to try the following, being that I didn't know about it until after they had thrown the whole thing in the trash. Being totally blind, I definitely would get competent sighted assistance for this one. And I would do several dry runs first. But get a toothpick and some instant glue. Put a very small drop of instant glue onto the toothpick, and stick to a point as near the center of this broken off connector as possible. The flatter it broke off, the better. You certainly don't want any of this glue to get into the jack, so if I were doing it, I would hold the phone in such a way that it is above the toothpick, and lower the phone onto the toothpick. Hopefully, any extra glue will run down the toothpick and not into the jack. Wait a few seconds, and see if you can pull the whole mess out. I think you might have one shot only. Again, I say try at your own risk. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Gail the U. S. Male gailcrowe1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:13 PM Subject: RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? Hi list, I bought a male to male audio cable on Ebay, to use for hooking my iPhone up to the auxiliary input on a radio, which lets me use it as a large speaker. That's all fine, except I plugged the cable in, and part of the tip came off! It's down in the Headphone jack; I have no Bluetooth headset either. This thing came from Hong Kong, and is the shodiest cable I've ever seen! I think the tip is gold. I also have no way to call apple, since my iPhone is my only phone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this
RE: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
I totally agree! I, for one will be making the permanent switch, once I can save up enough to buy a used Madc Off eBay. It's so wonderful, to be able to just walk up, turn on any Mac, and turn voiceover on, and test drive it, just like any other person in the store. It's also wonderful to be able to install the OS, with no help at all! I did that once last yeqar, and was so thrilled just to be able to do that! I've never been able to do that with Windows! I had a mac mini, but it died for some reason. I took it in, and there was absolutely nothing! They think it was a bad motherboard. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Hello, I totally agree here. It would have been easy, and truth be told, probably more profitable, if they decided to put out a weak screen reader, something like Windows Narrator for example, you know, just enough to satisfy the letter of the law and move on to other things. Instead, they decided to do it right, and put forth the resources and effort to make top notch screen readers. I think for that they should be commended. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 24, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I know you didn't want conjecture, but I've seen several times, from people who were involved with the issue at the time, that Apple did this because they had no accessibility story and were losing out to Microsoft and PC's in government and educational contracts. When Berkley Systems went out of business or stopped developing Outspoken, the 3rd party screen reader for Macs, there was no screen reader for Apple products and no other 3rd party company was stepping in to fill the void. In order to continue to have an accessibility story, and compete with PC's for these contracts, Apple chose to enter the screen reader market themselves. Like I said, I don't have any documents to prove this, only hearsay from people who were familiar with the issue at the time. I also wouldn't expect Apple to market the above story. For whatever reason, they embraced accessibility, and they can just market their commitment to full accessibility by everyone. I also don't think this takes away at all from Apple's commitment to accessibility and what they've been able to accomplish with VoiceOver. They are a corporation after-all, and if they saw a profit in making their products accessible, there's nothing wrong with that. I agree VoiceOver is a great product, and I can understand your willingness to support a company that builds accessibility into their product, but I don't think it's leaps and bounds better than every other screen reader out there. I think this is a highly subjective opinion. On 24/06/12 07:58, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, I completely agree here. Just look at other companies, Microsoft for example, a company that claims all their products are accessible to persons with disabilities. That statement couldn't be any more wrong. I myself would much rather pay a premium for an apple product with accessibility built in out of the box, as opposed to paying the same price for another screen access solution, on top of a PC with Windows. Yes, VO isn't perfect, but it's leaps and bounds over what other companies like Freedom scientific and GW Micro could ever dream of creating. I'm sorry if my post strayed off topic, I just can't help but admit I'm also a fanboy and an Apple geek. P.S.: I can't wait to see them try to make Windows RT accessible on tablets. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Craig, I am not sure you will find a specific reason. I have heard stories that range from Apple facing a lawsuit (not likely at all) to some child of an engineer (more likely) who was blind. I suspect the real reason is that Apple saw an opportunity and opted to take a risk which I should note has paid in spades. Apple has done more than any other mainstream company has ever done. In fact I will go as far as to say that VO on an iOS device is revolutionary and really changed how blind people interact with touch-screen devices. VO has really leveled the playing field in ways no other screen reader has been able. I think Apple realized the success of VO on the Mac and heard from users they wanted access to iPods, iPhones, etc. There is no question that VO on iOS has been wildly successful. Oh and yes for the record I am a fanboy and thrilled to be such. However, for the record VO like any screen reading solution is not
RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack?
Thanks Arnold, but that sounds to dangerous! I think I'll try going to the apple store first. LOL! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? I hope I never have a situation to try this, and I say: Try at your own risk. I can't emphasize try at your own risk enough, either it will work, or have the potential to make the situation worse. But I think there is a possibility it will work. I thought it up when I heard of somebody's husband breaking off her cord's plug in her XM satellite receiver. We didn't get to try the following, being that I didn't know about it until after they had thrown the whole thing in the trash. Being totally blind, I definitely would get competent sighted assistance for this one. And I would do several dry runs first. But get a toothpick and some instant glue. Put a very small drop of instant glue onto the toothpick, and stick to a point as near the center of this broken off connector as possible. The flatter it broke off, the better. You certainly don't want any of this glue to get into the jack, so if I were doing it, I would hold the phone in such a way that it is above the toothpick, and lower the phone onto the toothpick. Hopefully, any extra glue will run down the toothpick and not into the jack. Wait a few seconds, and see if you can pull the whole mess out. I think you might have one shot only. Again, I say try at your own risk. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Gail the U. S. Male gailcrowe1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:13 PM Subject: RE: Help! how do you get part of the tip of an audio cable out of the headphone jack? Hi list, I bought a male to male audio cable on Ebay, to use for hooking my iPhone up to the auxiliary input on a radio, which lets me use it as a large speaker. That's all fine, except I plugged the cable in, and part of the tip came off! It's down in the Headphone jack; I have no Bluetooth headset either. This thing came from Hong Kong, and is the shodiest cable I've ever seen! I think the tip is gold. I also have no way to call apple, since my iPhone is my only phone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver?
I also think Apple did something else no other company did, by having us, the blind community,test what was then called Spoken Interface, before it became VoiceOver, and released in Tiger (10.4). Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Jun 24, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I totally agree here. It would have been easy, and truth be told, probably more profitable, if they decided to put out a weak screen reader, something like Windows Narrator for example, you know, just enough to satisfy the letter of the law and move on to other things. Instead, they decided to do it right, and put forth the resources and effort to make top notch screen readers. I think for that they should be commended. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 24, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I know you didn't want conjecture, but I've seen several times, from people who were involved with the issue at the time, that Apple did this because they had no accessibility story and were losing out to Microsoft and PC's in government and educational contracts. When Berkley Systems went out of business or stopped developing Outspoken, the 3rd party screen reader for Macs, there was no screen reader for Apple products and no other 3rd party company was stepping in to fill the void. In order to continue to have an accessibility story, and compete with PC's for these contracts, Apple chose to enter the screen reader market themselves. Like I said, I don't have any documents to prove this, only hearsay from people who were familiar with the issue at the time. I also wouldn't expect Apple to market the above story. For whatever reason, they embraced accessibility, and they can just market their commitment to full accessibility by everyone. I also don't think this takes away at all from Apple's commitment to accessibility and what they've been able to accomplish with VoiceOver. They are a corporation after-all, and if they saw a profit in making their products accessible, there's nothing wrong with that. I agree VoiceOver is a great product, and I can understand your willingness to support a company that builds accessibility into their product, but I don't think it's leaps and bounds better than every other screen reader out there. I think this is a highly subjective opinion. On 24/06/12 07:58, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, I completely agree here. Just look at other companies, Microsoft for example, a company that claims all their products are accessible to persons with disabilities. That statement couldn't be any more wrong. I myself would much rather pay a premium for an apple product with accessibility built in out of the box, as opposed to paying the same price for another screen access solution, on top of a PC with Windows. Yes, VO isn't perfect, but it's leaps and bounds over what other companies like Freedom scientific and GW Micro could ever dream of creating. I'm sorry if my post strayed off topic, I just can't help but admit I'm also a fanboy and an Apple geek. P.S.: I can't wait to see them try to make Windows RT accessible on tablets. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OT: Why Did Apple Create VoiceOver? Craig, I am not sure you will find a specific reason. I have heard stories that range from Apple facing a lawsuit (not likely at all) to some child of an engineer (more likely) who was blind. I suspect the real reason is that Apple saw an opportunity and opted to take a risk which I should note has paid in spades. Apple has done more than any other mainstream company has ever done. In fact I will go as far as to say that VO on an iOS device is revolutionary and really changed how blind people interact with touch-screen devices. VO has really leveled the playing field in ways no other screen reader has been able. I think Apple realized the success of VO on the Mac and heard from users they wanted access to iPods, iPhones, etc. There is no question that VO on iOS has been wildly successful. Oh and yes for the record I am a fanboy and thrilled to be such. However, for the record VO like any screen reading solution is not perfect; although it does one hell of a job. :) On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to the list. Over on the vi-kindle email list from freelists.org, a user asked a penetrating question: Why did Apple build accessibility into all of its products? Knowing the answer to this query might prove helpful as blind and visually impaired people
