Photo Isn't Appearing?

2013-10-02 Thread Jim Portillo
Hi there,

 

I have a question about my Contacts and photos.

 

Up until recently, my contact information had everything about me.name, home
and work phones, home work and other emails, home address, and other stuff.
It also had my photo that is the profile picture on my facebook page.
Although I don't have Facebook having access to my contacts, I have allowed
Facebook to update my current contacts with whatever pictures are on my
contacts facebook pages.

 

Today, I noticed that some of my contact information had gotten screwed up.
For instance, instead of showing my cell phone number as an IPhone number,
it showed as Other.  Also, my photo was no longer part of my profile.

I went to the settings area and tried updating that part of Facebook. It
didn't add my photo the way it used to do so.  

Then, I went ahead and allowed Facebook to link up with my existing contacts
and add whatever other information it links.  Then, it had my photo.  When I
limited Facebook contact access again, the photo was gone.  That hadn't ever
happened before.

Also, when I checked other friends and contacts, their photos were on their
profiles on my phone.

Any idea what's going on and what I need to do?

Thanks,

Jim

 

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Transfering podcastes from Iphoneto PC using either Itunes or Ubidisk

2013-10-02 Thread Ketan Kothari
Hi friends,

As the subject line indicates is this possible?  Namely, transfer of episodes 
of podcastes to PC using Itunes  or Ubidisk?  if so, how?  

Thank you. 

With best wishes,

Ketan

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Re: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen

2013-10-02 Thread Chris H
I hope this is not a bug as just got my 4s yesterday and you are the 
only one with this issue it seems. For now check that do not disturb is 
not on. If it is then all calls unless they are in your favorites or 
they repeatedly ring within about three minutes will go straight to 
VoiceMail.


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On 02/10/2013 04:59, Desi Noller wrote:

Good Evening!  My husband has been missing some calls lately, and we were 
perplexed as to why.  He is running iOS 7 on an iPhone 4S.  Anyway, what we 
discovered is that when his screen is locked, his calls seem to be going 
directly to VoiceMail rather than ringing.  Does anyone have any ideas as to 
what we can do to correct this?  We have looked into all the settings we can 
think of.  Any help with this would be most appreciated!

Desi





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Re: Siri's performance in IOS7

2013-10-02 Thread Chris H

Thanks.
i know what might have happened.
if i turn VoiceOver off Siri works well and all the way through.
but if i turn VoiceOver on Siri works part way through then die.


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On 01/10/2013 17:50, Eric Whitten wrote:

Siri works better then it did on Ios6. I have a 4s

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all
when i asked where the nearest mcdonalds was, all was well until i asked to 
give me directions. then it stopped dead so had to lock the screen. any ideas?

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On 01/10/2013 15:53, Brian Moore wrote:
yeah, having some of the same issues. sometimes I get feedback and
sometimes I don't.

maybe this is a 4s thing but it seemed to work better before the 7.02
upgrade.
Brian.

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On 01/10/2013 10:27 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:
Well, I'll add in my $.02, as i'm checking e-mail anyway and often
feel I need to jump in LOL.

I, too, have been experiencing problems with siri's responsiveness. I
am quite the loose-leaf tea addict, so have to set fairly specific
timers for my tea to brew. When using IOS6, I could simply say siri,
please set my timer for four minutes and thirty seconds and she would
do it instantly. ever since upgrading, I'll ask siri to perform the
same task (politely of course, because I'm a Canadian and that's how
we roll), and then i'm usually met by a stoney silence. I follow that
up by frantically swiping around the screen, and after a bit more
silence, will hear things like things you can tell me. Ask Where's
Brian? and not only do I not know Brian, I honestly couldn't give two
flying you know what's about where he is at the moment. While this
very uninspiring exchange is taking place between siri and myself, my
tea is sitting there steeping confusedly, and then I just manually set
a timer and try to account for the fight I just had with siri.

What gives?
Shermeen



On 9/30/13, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
My coworker and driver got a 5C Saturday, Siri was very responsive
compared
to my 4S.  It did have to think a couple of times when she asked it a
question, or used an unacceptable word after it told her it could not
add a
contact to her address book.

It was amazing even my Husband's 5 seems slower than her phone but
then she
has no apps but the ones supplied, only had it less than 24 hours and
had
no
clue about apps.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:25 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Siri's performance in IOS7

Hi,

This isn't true 100% of the time.  If I tell Siri Tell Mary I will give
her
a call in an hour.  At least for me, most of the time the message is
read
back.  The times when it isn't, its because VO interrupts it for some
reason.  In this case, I place my finger on the screen, and flick to the
edit field and VO reads the message.  I find the error rate to be on par
with that found in IOS 6,  Maybe a little bit better.  But that isn't
were
Siri is really giving people a lot of headaches though.  Its Siri
actually
processing your requests.  This failure rate is way up in IOS 7.  I
would
say its near the levels when it made its debut on the iPhone 4S.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Sep 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

For those of you using Siri and iOS 7, here are a few questions

specifically related to dictation.

I understand that Siri no longer reads back the text it has inserted
when

you do dictation. How then do you efficiently understand whether the
text
that has been inserted is correct? In iOS 6, this is easy because Siri
reads
it back.

I have found that the error rate is very good in iOS 6. So most of the

time, I don't have to hunt for anything to correct it, making the
read back
by far the most efficient means of knowing if my text is okay.

So, how is the error rate in iOS 7 compared with that of iOS 6? It
seems

that there are varying reports on this topic. I use dictation a lot,
such
as
in this message. And I will not upgrade if the ability to use it to
write
longer messages is seriously degraded. Yet one more reason to wait.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Jerry White midwa...@surry.net wrote:

I have noticed the same thing.  I live in North Carolina, USA, and
have thought that SIRI has taken a step back in response.  I love the
automatically listening for a response after SIRI asks a question,
but the time between asking a question and getting a response is

sometimes large.

Also, when using dictate in messaging, I sometimes have to move focus
away from the message pane and back to get the text read.

Thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy, well, not this time, 

Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

2013-10-02 Thread Chris H
I got this on the 4 and now on the 4s also. Must be an iOS thing. It's 
funny because when it does this I think something's come in but when I 
checked nothing came in. Lol!


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On 02/10/2013 00:08, Rose Combs wrote:
 Mine is turned off, my minor problem on a 4S is that when in the locked

screen for no reason it will sometimes say screen locked and I don't think
this is a great idea at work or when I am sleeping.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

If your phone turns off because it hasn't been touched for a few minutes go
to settings, general, autolock and make sure that it's turned off.

On 10/1/13, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I hear a sound but nothing seems to have activated it, usually
I'm at work and someone in my office wants to know what that was.
Work in a cube farm.


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Behalf Of SSEric
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked


I just hear screen lock, without having heard any incoming mail,
message, etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including
alarms, reminders, etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some
correlating event. This seems to occur once or twice a day since the seven

update.


Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on
Verizon, 16 GB black model.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Eric

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Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

2013-10-02 Thread Chris H

No I do this as well so not a rarity at all.

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On 01/10/2013 23:23, Ron Miller wrote:

I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. 
There are times When I want to free up all resources  have everything unloaded.

I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close  
flick up once to invoke close. I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to 
close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've 
gotten pretty used to setting to close then moving to  double-tapping the item to close.

Best regards,

Ron Miller


On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program
on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing
the home button I can still see why Apple would have made  this icon a
choice.


On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never

got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps
in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]



Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else
left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.

I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite
thing
in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem
like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but
no
immediate plans to upgrade today.


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Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

Hi,

All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was
saying,
why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been
close?
Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the
homescreen
in the app switcher.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:

Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that,
you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on
app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen,
then back to the app switcher.
In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally
different from iOS 6.


On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
You're right! Didn't think about that. :)

Very good point and I agree with you.

I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO
users or not. Now you've got me curious.

Will be exploring this with sighted friends.

Thanks and have a good night!

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com

wrote:


Hi,

But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have
been closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close
automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action

left to perform.


For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see
the 2 apps plus the home screen.  Cool.  But, once I've close those 2
apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to
close it and return to the home screen.  So, why then force the user
to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a
logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do?
This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed
in IOS 7.  Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the
switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still
do.  Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc.  But this is no
longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to

control center.


Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:

HI Ricardo,

Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the
screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6.

I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can
dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the
scrub that I know of.

Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask
someone.

Interesting 

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread RobH.
This was the view I was expressing near the start of the thread, still feel 
it;   but saw assurences it wasn't quite that intrusive, so calmed down 
again.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


let me say it again. If I pay a product, so I am the owner. Why apple has 
right on my property?
I feel something agains the property right here.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ierne
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:40 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


  This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The 
iPhone is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a 
charger and with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't 
getting very far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is 
daft!  But it does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to 
downloading this auto update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie 
Lynch seems to have done, that the update will go ahead and install, even 
without the OK from the user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if 
so.  Spoken as a long-term customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.

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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread RobH.
The network connection in progress on the status line is often a good 
clue.

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:31 AM
Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Just out of curiocity, how do you know it's trying to download when airplane
mode is on and when you are only on 3G, how do you know it is in fact
downloading? I just don't see how it can download on 3G when there is a 50
Mb download limit, i.e. if you ever tried to download an audio book or
podcast that was larger than 50 Mb via 3G it will not let you.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ierne
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The
iPhone is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a
charger and with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't
getting very far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is
daft!  But it does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to
downloading this auto update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie
Lynch seems to have done, that the update will go ahead and install, even
without the OK from the user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if
so.  Spoken as a long-term customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.

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Re: Ringtone purchases was Re: TuneIn Radio Pro question

2013-10-02 Thread RobH.
Personally, I've not been able to restore bought ring tones to new phones, 
even using the same apple id;  so just bought them again for each device. I 
have 2 concurrent devices, so they might as well act the same.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: Carla Kay Etheredge ckethere...@inebraska.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:24 AM
Subject: Ringtone purchases was Re: TuneIn Radio Pro question


Thank u all for the confirmation on not having to repurchase apps.  Is this 
true for ringtones that are also purchased too? Recently, due to 
accidentally breaking the USB port on my laptop, I had to buy a couple 
ringtones again when I switched to my new desktop pc and installed ITunes on 
there.  I’m assuming the reason I had to buy them again was because only one 
ITunes library is able to sync per computer/phone?  My step son told me that 
I could normally transfer purchased tones over to another library on a 
different computer via a USB drive, if their wasn’t the problem of the 
broken USB port on my laptop. lol I felt really bad that I did that, but 
hey...accidents happen.

Carla Kay Etheredge
ckethere...@inebraska.com

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Re: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen

2013-10-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

You might want to double check that do not disturb is turned off.

hth 

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On Oct 1, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good Evening!  My husband has been missing some calls lately, and we were 
 perplexed as to why.  He is running iOS 7 on an iPhone 4S.  Anyway, what we 
 discovered is that when his screen is locked, his calls seem to be going 
 directly to VoiceMail rather than ringing.  Does anyone have any ideas as to 
 what we can do to correct this?  We have looked into all the settings we can 
 think of.  Any help with this would be most appreciated!
 
 Desi
 
 
 
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RE: iTunes Radio

2013-10-02 Thread Lois Butterfield
Rose,

Did you try swiping up with 3 fingers?  There are several pages of stations.

Lois


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes Radio

Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the problem.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set 
 I assume.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations. 
 This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at 
 the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre 
 or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can 
 double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up 
 beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.
 
 On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
 All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi 
 something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not 
 found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like 
 music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.
 
 I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I 
 think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Penny Golden
 Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost 
 as much. I bought A horse Named Bill, sung by the poet Carl 
 Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though 
 I was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin 
 piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents, 
 but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was
 99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was 
 one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
 Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music 
 part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few 
 tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun 
 voting for what I liked and occasionally saying: Never play this again.
 Why, it is so very arbitry.
 And so much fun. But when I went to iTunes, my genre stations were 
 not being found. So you've showed me where they are.
 I'd better stop. More another time.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:47 pm
 Subject: iTunes Radio
 
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I finally got around to playing with iTunes radio which is in the 
 music folder of ios 7. With this cold holding on for over a week, 
 I've spent a lot of time laying around doing not much of anything so 
 I thought this would be a good time to give it a test drive.  I 
 should also say that I'm not much of a radio fan.  I don't like 
 other folks selecting what sort of music I listen to.  Apparently 
 with this app all you need to do is to enter into the text entry 
 field, the name of a song, an album, or an artist.  So, I typed in The
Eagles
 iTunes radio came back and offered me Eagles Radio  Wow! I thought 
 that meant that I would hear one Eagles tune after another but 
 instead, I get great songs that go together.  I suppose there are 
 other music apps and services out there but I see what their doing 
 here.  They played a song by The-Nitty-Gritty-Dirt-Band called An 
 American Dream which I hadn't heard in some time and I decided to 
 add it to my collection.  Wow again! a buck twenty
   nine USAID.  You could go to the poor house buying songs 1 at a 
 time.  I wonder if there is anything like ten songs of your choosing 
 for an album price.  Sense I have no experience with these kinds of 
 deals, if anybody can give me any kind of a quick look over I'd 
 appreciate
 it.
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click 

Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-02 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I am doing  1 zipped book at a time. the same zipped file I downloded from 
BARD.
***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message - 
From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Are you transfering a Bard book?
MP3 files want work. and only try one zipped bard book at a time.

On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
 Here are my steps

 After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the 
 download
 section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
 I then tap share  then open in and chose bard mobile which brings up the
 bard mobile screen
 but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought I
 remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not 
 this
 time.
 ***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
 Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


 Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

 I use a free app called UbiDisk.
 Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

 It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu allowing
 you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then 
 choose
 easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
 Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.

 UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

 http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush
 Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
 its very easy and convenient.

 Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
 iPhone, iPod or iPad.
 On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
 press the applications key
 choose send with easy push
 the easy push window will open.
 the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
 then your iPhone will appear on the list.
 select it and press enter.
 your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
 tap on accept to start the transfer
 when transfer is finished, tap on done.
 Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
 Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
 Downloads folder if you used the easy push.

 right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
 button. double tap to open it
 then look for the action button,
 then choose open in
 Bard will be on that list.
 good luck!

 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
 God is good all the time,  All the time God is good


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Re: Performance of the motorola h19txt bluetooth earpiece with IOS7 questions:

2013-10-02 Thread Don Breda
Thanks Dave.

Yes I understand about the bluetooth issues due to is frequency beeing
the ressinent  frequency of a drop of water. Wish there had been some
scientists on the first bluetooth committee grin!

I figured the breakup problem might be at least lessened  and was hoping
the echo/feedback issues were fixed.

Sounds like both will probably be true so guess I will take the plunge.

Thanks.

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Re: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen

2013-10-02 Thread Pablo Morales
Well, I  noticed it, and I glad that you clarify this point. Even though, I 
noticed another situation. My phone, has different ring tones, and those 
ring tones are for the same contact, or for example when I receive a sms, or 
email, the sound that the iPhone makes, is different.
I don't have any configuration for differents tones, for contacts. But I 
would like to know if the ring tones change when the phone is locked, 
playing music, or of what it depends.


- Original Message - 
From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com

To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 4:53 AM
Subject: Re: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen


Hi,

You might want to double check that do not disturb is turned off.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com wrote:

Good Evening!  My husband has been missing some calls lately, and we were 
perplexed as to why.  He is running iOS 7 on an iPhone 4S.  Anyway, what 
we discovered is that when his screen is locked, his calls seem to be 
going directly to VoiceMail rather than ringing.  Does anyone have any 
ideas as to what we can do to correct this?  We have looked into all the 
settings we can think of.  Any help with this would be most appreciated!


Desi



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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Joanne Chua
Can you explain, how does the network status define either you are downloading 
something or not.
What i know or my understanding thru the network status is it moves according 
to the 3g signal you have and have nothing to do with either you are 
downloading something or not downloading anything.
And, when you turn airplay onn, everything involve in connection is off. that 
include bluetooth, wifi, 3g, phone, and everything else.


Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

 On 2 Oct 2013, at 17:21, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 The network connection in progress on the status line is often a good 
 clue.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:31 AM
 Subject: RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
 
 
 Just out of curiocity, how do you know it's trying to download when airplane
 mode is on and when you are only on 3G, how do you know it is in fact
 downloading? I just don't see how it can download on 3G when there is a 50
 Mb download limit, i.e. if you ever tried to download an audio book or
 podcast that was larger than 50 Mb via 3G it will not let you.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Sieghard
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ierne
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:41 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
 
 
 
 This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The
 iPhone is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a
 charger and with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't
 getting very far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is
 daft!  But it does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to
 downloading this auto update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie
 Lynch seems to have done, that the update will go ahead and install, even
 without the OK from the user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if
 so.  Spoken as a long-term customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.
 
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Gmail access issue on 5s

2013-10-02 Thread Robin Christopherson
Sachin
Just to say that I had this exact same issue when setting up my 5S yesterday 
and I had to delete the Exchange account and set it up using the Gmail option 
instead and now it seems to be working just fine.
Thanks, Robin.

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Siri and relationships, how to use?

2013-10-02 Thread Chris H

Good morning all.
How exactly do I use the relationships feature of Siri?
I'm asking this as I asked Siri to text my eldest sister. He then asked 
who he should send the message to and that he needs a name, e-mail or 
phone number. However he knows who my eldest sister is and she is in my 
contacts. I tried asking him to text my youngest sister but the same 
happened. He also knows who my father is but not tried that yet.

Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Ringtone purchases was Re: TuneIn Radio Pro question

2013-10-02 Thread Chris H

I was able to restore a text tone I purchased thanks to iCloud.

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On 02/10/2013 08:56, RobH. wrote:

Personally, I've not been able to restore bought ring tones to new phones,
even using the same apple id;  so just bought them again for each device. I
have 2 concurrent devices, so they might as well act the same.

Rh.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 1:24 AM
Subject: Ringtone purchases was Re: TuneIn Radio Pro question


Thank u all for the confirmation on not having to repurchase apps.  Is this
true for ringtones that are also purchased too? Recently, due to
accidentally breaking the USB port on my laptop, I had to buy a couple
ringtones again when I switched to my new desktop pc and installed ITunes on
there.  I’m assuming the reason I had to buy them again was because only one
ITunes library is able to sync per computer/phone?  My step son told me that
I could normally transfer purchased tones over to another library on a
different computer via a USB drive, if their wasn’t the problem of the
broken USB port on my laptop. lol I felt really bad that I did that, but
hey...accidents happen.

Carla Kay Etheredge
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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
When Bard went down yesterday, I had 3 books cued for download.  One book 
was in progress and that download finished.  The other two never started. 
My Bard app is showing them as cued for download.

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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


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From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: possible LOC shutdown


Hi, I think you are confusing downloading and reading what's already 
there. With the BARD app you can read what is already downloaded just as 
if you had copied the books onto an SD card and used a BookSense or Victor 
Stream. Now, due to the shut down, getting new material is what is 
prevented. Apples and Oranges here. This is because when the books are 
downloaded to the BARD app, they are living in your device, not in the 
cloud. You are listening to content already present, not being streamed. I 
hope that helps.


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On 10/1/2013 10:23 AM, eric oyen wrote:

ok,
This was the point I wasn't sure on. At least books are readable in the 
app with no network connection.


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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
All the books I've downloaded using the bard app still play fine.  Any books 
obtained through other means probably aren't going to work.  I have 2 audio 
books still cued for download.  Braille books synced  via the bard app I'm 
told aren't playing.

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: possible LOC shutdown


This is what I thought as well, but people are reporting that books 
they've moved over to their iPhone, using iTunes or some other file 
sharing system, won't play in BARD at the moment. It seems that if you 
download the book in BARD, which you can't do right now, then it's 
authorized to be played in BARD, but if you get it there some other way, 
BARD needs to check your authorization before it'll allow you to play it. 
I haven't tested this myself yet, but this is what's been reported by 
others.


On 10/01/2013 02:45 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi, I think you are confusing downloading and reading what's already
there. With the BARD app you can read what is already downloaded just as
if you had copied the books onto an SD card and used a BookSense or
Victor Stream. Now, due to the shut down, getting new material is what
is prevented. Apples and Oranges here. This is because when the books
are downloaded to the BARD app, they are living in your device, not in
the cloud. You are listening to content already present, not being
streamed. I hope that helps.

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Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 10/1/2013 10:23 AM, eric oyen wrote:

ok,
This was the point I wasn't sure on. At least books are readable in
the app with no network connection.

-eric





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Question

2013-10-02 Thread clarence carter
When I use the spotlight search my search results do not appear below 
the edit box.  Voice over does not appear to see them.  This occurs in 
other applications.  Also, the portrait/landscape function does not 
work, and I don't see where I can unlock it.  Would a restore or a reset 
correct these problems.


I am using an I Phone 4.

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RE: Question

2013-10-02 Thread Thom Spittle
If you are using the newest IOS 7, the orientation lock is in the control
center. Touch the status bar to give it focus and do a three finger flick up
to get there.



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 When I use the spotlight search my search results do not appear below the
 edit box.  Voice over does not appear to see them.  This occurs in other
 applications.  Also, the portrait/landscape function does not work, and I
 don't see where I can unlock it.  Would a restore or a reset correct these
 problems.
 
 I am using an I Phone 4.
 
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Re: Siri and relationships, how to use?

2013-10-02 Thread Denny Schwab
Hello,

You tell Siri something like Jane Doe is my mother, Sandy Smith is my
sister, and Jim Dale is my brother.  You need the individual in your
contact list before doing this though.

Once set up you can say call my mother, text my sister, and email my
brother.  I am not sure if there are more options, but these are the
ones I use.

Denny

On 10/2/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good morning all.
 How exactly do I use the relationships feature of Siri?
 I'm asking this as I asked Siri to text my eldest sister. He then asked
 who he should send the message to and that he needs a name, e-mail or
 phone number. However he knows who my eldest sister is and she is in my
 contacts. I tried asking him to text my youngest sister but the same
 happened. He also knows who my father is but not tried that yet.
 Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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RE: Siri and relationships, how to use?

2013-10-02 Thread Thom Spittle
I don't think that it can identify older or younger siblings, just sister.
Then I would assume he will ask which sister you would like to call, text,
or email.
It works for my mother and sister, but since I only have one of each, I'm
not in the same boat as you

Tell siri that Susan is my sister, it will take you from there.

HTH 
Thom
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Siri and relationships, how to use?
 
 Good morning all.
 How exactly do I use the relationships feature of Siri?
 I'm asking this as I asked Siri to text my eldest sister. He then asked
who he
 should send the message to and that he needs a name, e-mail or phone
 number. However he knows who my eldest sister is and she is in my
 contacts. I tried asking him to text my youngest sister but the same
 happened. He also knows who my father is but not tried that yet.
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Moderator's reminder about appropriate subject lines - Was Re: Question

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello, this is just a friendly reminder to please please please make 
your subject lines not generic. The subject question could be one of a 
million things. So, it's really best to write what the message is about.


Thanks, and keep the messages coming, I don't think this list has enough 
*smile*.


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On 10/2/2013 6:22 AM, clarence carter wrote:

When I use the spotlight search my search results do not appear below
the edit box.  Voice over does not appear to see them.  This occurs in
other applications.  Also, the portrait/landscape function does not
work, and I don't see where I can unlock it.  Would a restore or a reset
correct these problems.

I am using an I Phone 4.



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Re: You can by apple products in the UK VAT free if your blind.

2013-10-02 Thread Applemania Gr
hello all!
i just found out about this thread and this topic that is very interesting!
in had been diagnosed as partially blind and legally blind by authorities 
in the UK
unfortunately i have lost this documentation
do you know if i can apply and get a new one so i can make use of the 
option in the apple stores?
obviously apple store will need some for of proof for the exclusion of the 
vat
thank you

On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:26:18 PM UTC+3, Alex Wallis wrote:

 Hi list, 
 I just found out something interesting that I didn't know before. 
 If your registered blind in the UK you can by apple products v a t free, 
 so that means you get about 20 percent off. 
 In the case of the iPhone 5 64 gb model this would save you about �140, 
 I assume this applies to all apple products, given that they all include 
 VoiceOver these days. 
 I new about being able to get products specially designed for the 
 visually impaired v a t free, but had no idea this applied to Apple. 
 I rang my local store, and they were aware of this, I heard from someone 
 else that the store in covent garden in London is also aware of this, 
 but the person also said that the store in regents street wasn't aware 
 of it, so it sounds like not all stores know about this, still its 
 definitely worth knowing about. 
 Hope people find the above information useful. 
 Alex. 


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Re: iTunes Radio

2013-10-02 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Cara,
I'm not sure why, because I didn't do anything different this time, but there 
were more stations that showed up on my Mac when I interacted with the featured 
stations area.
So I found one that I like. And I can't figure out how to add that to my 
permanent stations list. Any ideas?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI Rose and All,
 
 Try this;
 
 Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured Stations 
 Area. Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area you find, and 
 interact with it as well.
 
 Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to navigate the 
 stations. I've found that though many of them say dimmed, when you navigate 
 back through them once again, they will read properly. This seems like it may 
 be a VO issue.
 
 Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)
 
 Have a great night!
 
 Cara :)
 On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the problem.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 Hi Rose,
 I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
 with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set 
 I assume.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations. 
 This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at 
 the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre 
 or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can 
 double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up 
 beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.
 
 On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
 All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi 
 something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not 
 found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like 
 music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.
 
 I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I 
 think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Penny Golden
 Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost 
 as much. I bought A horse Named Bill, sung by the poet Carl 
 Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though 
 I was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin 
 piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents, 
 but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was
 99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was 
 one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
 Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music 
 part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few 
 tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun 
 voting for what I liked and occasionally saying: Never play this again.
 Why, it is so very arbitry.
 And so much fun. But when I went to iTunes, my genre stations were 
 not being found. So you've showed me where they are.
 I'd better stop. More another time.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:47 pm
 Subject: iTunes Radio
 
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I finally got around to playing with iTunes radio which is in the 
 music folder of ios 7. With this cold holding on for over a week, 
 I've spent a lot of time laying around doing not much of anything so 
 I thought this would be a good time to give it a test drive.  I 
 should also say that I'm not much of a radio fan.  I don't like 
 other folks selecting what sort of music I listen to.  Apparently 
 with this app all you need to do is to enter into the text entry 
 field, the name of a song, an album, or an artist.  So, I typed in The
 Eagles
 iTunes radio came back and offered me Eagles Radio  Wow! I thought 
 that meant that I would hear one Eagles tune after another but 
 instead, I get great songs that go together.  I suppose there are 
 other music apps and services out there but I see 

Problem with deleting e-mail after upgrading to iOS 7

2013-10-02 Thread Michal Nowicki
Hello listers,

Since upgrading my iPhone 5 to iOS 7, I've been having trouble
deleting e-mail from my university e-mail account.  When I try to
delete a message from my inbox by swiping up and double tapping on the
trash button, one of three things happens:
1.  The message is deleted as one would expect;
2.  If the message is still marked as unread, it suddenly shows up as
read and remains in my inbox but then becomes deleted on my second
attempt or
3.  The message stays in my inbox, no matter how many times I attempt
to delete it.  When this happens, none of the methods of deleting
e-mail work on that message.

At first, I suspected that this was simply a bug in iOS 7, but
recently I noticed that the issue applies to my university e-mail
only; I have no trouble deleting iCloud or Gmail messages.  Does
anyone have a solution to this problem?  Thank you in advance for your
suggestions.

Best regards:

Michal Nowicki

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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread glazingfr...@gmail.com
Irene,

 The iPhone is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a 
charger and with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't 
getting very far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode,

Come on!  Impossible. 

 On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Ierne grattanhe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The iPhone 
 is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a charger and 
 with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't getting very 
 far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is daft!  But it 
 does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to downloading this 
 auto update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie Lynch seems to have 
 done, that the update will go ahead and install, even without the OK from the 
 user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if so.  Spoken as a long-term 
 customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.
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Questions re Bard Mobile

2013-10-02 Thread Dani L Pagador
Hi, Everyone.

I've got an iPod 4th gen, and don't have a data plan or hot spot thingy. Do
I need either of these to use Bard Mobile when I'm on the go i.e., not where
my modem and router are?

 

Thanks,

Dani 

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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but if you are on iOS 6 and 
you are jailbroken, there is a tweak called SoftwareUpdateKiller and 
guess what? It prevents software updates from getting forced on you in 
case you feel they are doing that. So far it's worked nicely. I upgraded 
my iPad mini, but am waiting on the iPhone.


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On 9/26/2013 10:15 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hello,

For those of you who want/need to stay on iOS 6 for whatever reason, I come 
with some bad news.
According to an article I’ll link to below, Apple is pushing the OTA update to 
7 automatically to devices that don’t have 7 installed yet, with no user 
consent, and no way to reclaim the lost storage space the update uses when 
downloaded.
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/09/apple-is-automatically-pushing-out-ios-7-to-holdout-devices



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Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to 
close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened 
app?

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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Ron Miller rockygu...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]


I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, 
then. There are times When I want to free up all resources  have everything 
unloaded.


I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to 
the app I want to close  flick up once to invoke close. I can then just 
double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The 
three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten 
pretty used to setting to close then moving to  double-tapping the item 
to close.


Best regards,

Ron Miller

On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program
on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing
the home button I can still see why Apple would have made  this icon a
choice.


On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have 
never


got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other 
apps

in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]


Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing 
else

left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.

I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite
thing
in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact 
seem

like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but
no
immediate plans to upgrade today.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

Hi,

All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was
saying,
why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been
close?
Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the
homescreen
in the app switcher.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:

Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that,
you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on
app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen,
then back to the app switcher.
In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally
different from iOS 6.


On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
You're right! Didn't think about that. :)

Very good point and I agree with you.

I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO
users or not. Now you've got me curious.

Will be exploring this with sighted friends.

Thanks and have a good night!

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com

wrote:


Hi,

But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have
been closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close
automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action

left to perform.


For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see
the 2 apps plus the home screen.  Cool.  But, once I've close those 2
apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to
close it and return to the home screen.  So, why then force the user
to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a
logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do?
This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed
in IOS 7.  Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the
switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still

voices in voice dream

2013-10-02 Thread David Gross
Is my understanding correct that there are new voices available in the Voice
Dream app with the 7.0 update?

 

If yes, how do you download them?

 

Thanks

 

David Gross

 

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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
OK fair enough, but you people, and by that statement, I mean the people 
who are complaining about this, are not realizing that this isn't 
something new. This has been going on since iOS 5. So, why the fuss now 
all of a sudden? Also, this isn't something targeting blind people 
specifically like I've seen some list members insinuate. This happens 
for everyone. I don't like it either if I don't have a choice, but I 
will say that on the flip side it's saved money too. Just this past 
weekend I went to a client's home to do some equipment maintenance for 
him. He had an iPad mini and a laptop which needed work. At first I 
thought I would be spending a lot more time on the laptop while the 
update downloaded and then installed. However because it had already 
been downloaded, the upgrade of his ipad took a lot less. Over all it 
saved everyone a lot of time. So it does have it's positive side as 
well, and again, this isn't new with iOS 7.


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On 9/26/2013 10:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

  Raul,
There is a huge difference when you're looking at a 32 or 16 GB I device versus 
a Windows or a Mac PC with many many megabytes gigabytes or even maybe 
terabytes of space. This is just wrong. I have 4 GB left on my iPhone. And when 
this unwanted download comes on, it's going to leave me with something around 1 
1/2 left. That is a problem.
One of the things that Apple used to pride itself on his it just works. Given what I've 
heard about iOS 7 and voiceover, I don't think they're living up to their reputation. We pay a lot 
more for this hardware and put up with the walled garden because it is supposed to 
offer a superior experience. This is not an example of a superior experience. Quite honestly, this 
is more like what I would expect from the wild West in Google land, where it's incredibly 
fragmented, and excess ability is catch as catch can, and it's a mess. I don't pay big bucks to 
expect this kind of treatment from the company.
Mary experience.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:


Folks folks, do you all who are upset about the iOS 7 being downloaded also 
disable your Mac or Windows updates so they are not downloaded without your 
permission? What about those who are more technically challenged and would 
welcome this because it makes the process easier?

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Where do Bard Books go after being Added?

2013-10-02 Thread Dani L Pagador
Hi, Everyone.

Thanks for answering my question about how to add books using iTunes. I
managed to follow the directions, but can't find the books on my iPod.

 

When I open the Bard Mobile app and choose the Audiobook tab from the
bookshelf, it shows only four books. When I try to add the books I think
should be there but aren't, I get asked whether I want to replace the file
that's already there-I'm using zipped files downloaded from the website.

 

Thanks as always for clarifying,

Dani 

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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Well that's true, but then again, major operating system upgrades for 
Windows aren't free either.


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On 9/27/2013 1:56 PM, Michael Malver wrote:

I don't disable my updates, but never have I had windows 8 automatically
download on my windows 7 system.  Windows 7 wasn't downloaded onto my vista
system either.



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RE: iTunes Radio

2013-10-02 Thread Rose Combs
Sorry, I don't have a mac, just a Windows 7 PC and an iPhone


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

HI Rose and All,

Try this;

Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured Stations
Area. Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area you find, and
interact with it as well.

Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to navigate the
stations. I've found that though many of them say dimmed, when you navigate
back through them once again, they will read properly. This seems like it
may be a VO issue.

Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)

Have a great night!

Cara :)
On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the problem.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set 
 I assume.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations. 
 This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at 
 the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre 
 or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can 
 double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up 
 beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.
 
 On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
 All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi 
 something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not 
 found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like 
 music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.
 
 I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I 
 think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Penny Golden
 Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost 
 as much. I bought A horse Named Bill, sung by the poet Carl 
 Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though 
 I was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin 
 piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents, 
 but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was
 99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was 
 one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
 Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music 
 part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few 
 tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun 
 voting for what I liked and occasionally saying: Never play this again.
 Why, it is so very arbitry.
 And so much fun. But when I went to iTunes, my genre stations were 
 not being found. So you've showed me where they are.
 I'd better stop. More another time.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:47 pm
 Subject: iTunes Radio
 
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I finally got around to playing with iTunes radio which is in the 
 music folder of ios 7. With this cold holding on for over a week, 
 I've spent a lot of time laying around doing not much of anything so 
 I thought this would be a good time to give it a test drive.  I 
 should also say that I'm not much of a radio fan.  I don't like 
 other folks selecting what sort of music I listen to.  Apparently 
 with this app all you need to do is to enter into the text entry 
 field, the name of a song, an album, or an artist.  So, I typed in 
 The
Eagles
 iTunes radio came back and offered me Eagles Radio  Wow! I thought 
 that meant that I would hear one Eagles tune after another but 
 instead, I get great songs that go together.  I suppose there are 
 other music apps and services out there but I see what their doing 
 here.  They played a song by The-Nitty-Gritty-Dirt-Band called An 
 American Dream which I hadn't heard in some time and I decided to 
 add 

Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

2013-10-02 Thread Andy Baracco
No, all that will do is to relaunch the app. A 3 finger swipe up will 
dismiss the highlighted app.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Paganelli

Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to
close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened
app?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Ron Miller rockygu...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]


I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher,
then. There are times When I want to free up all resources  have everything
unloaded.

I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to
the app I want to close  flick up once to invoke close. I can then just
double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The
three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten
pretty used to setting to close then moving to  double-tapping the item
to close.

Best regards,

Ron Miller

On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program
on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing
the home button I can still see why Apple would have made  this icon a
choice.


On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have 
never


got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other 
apps

in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]


Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing 
else

left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.

I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite
thing
in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact 
seem

like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but
no
immediate plans to upgrade today.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

Hi,

All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was
saying,
why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been
close?
Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the
homescreen
in the app switcher.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:

Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that,
you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on
app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen,
then back to the app switcher.
In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally
different from iOS 6.


On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
You're right! Didn't think about that. :)

Very good point and I agree with you.

I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO
users or not. Now you've got me curious.

Will be exploring this with sighted friends.

Thanks and have a good night!

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com

wrote:


Hi,

But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have
been closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close
automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action

left to perform.


For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see
the 2 apps plus the home screen.  Cool.  But, once I've close those 2
apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to
close it and return to the home screen.  So, why then force the user
to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a
logical 

RE: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

2013-10-02 Thread Rose Combs
Mine happens when I am working, doing nothing with music audible of any kind
and not touching any buttons.  It just will occasionally say screen locked
and I have not been playing any audio on the phone since the last time I
turned it on, which generally is every morning.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:10 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

Hi,

It only happens when playing audio content when you change the volume.  For
some reason, Voiceover thinks the screen is unlocked when you do this so,
after a minute or so, it will say screen locked.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have this happen when playing any audio content.
 
 -Original Message- From: Kimber Gardner
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked
 
 I'v had the same thing happen on my 4s running ios7.
 
 On 10/1/13, SSEric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just hear screen lock, without having heard any incoming mail, 
 message, etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including 
 alarms, reminders, etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some 
 correlating event. This seems to occur once or twice a day since the
seven update.
 
 Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 
 on Verizon, 16 GB black model.
 
 Thanks for any thoughts.
 
 Eric
 
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Re: Bard app

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
The correct name is Bard Mobile but sense it's an app for US citizens or US 
citizens living abroad,you may not be able to find it in the app store 
there.  I have no clue how a US citizen living in another country can lay 
hands on the app.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:09 PM
Subject: Bard app





Can someone please tell me the proper name for the Bard app so I can 
search for it in the App Store. I have tried to search for the app but I 
can't find it. Can I get the Bard app in Australia?


Margaret
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Re: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
I was just going to ask that very same question.  I too have the Tune in app 
and am wondering what Card mode is and how it's used?

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- Original Message - 
From: Richard rqli...@rogers.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro



Well, unfortunately, I'm not alone I guess with it.  Hopefully a fix is
coming.  Just found out that WunderRadio is no longer being supported and 
is

out of the AppStore.

On the tunein Radio front though; I managed to get some searches done in 
car

mode.  Getting to the listing and tapping on the one you want can be a bit
frustrating though.  By the way, what is car-mode for?

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of eric oyen
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro

sounds like we need to bug both Apple and the app developer. They start
hearing from enough of us and they will get the hint.

-eric

On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:54 PM, BBS wrote:


Hi Richard. Yep, everybody's having the same problem with search results

not being displayed in Tunein with Voiceover. Some of us have written to
them about it but it's a question of when or if they're gonna fix it.


Shawn


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RE: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen

2013-10-02 Thread Rose Combs
Thank goodness I don't have that problem as my phone is generally locked all
day at work and I still get phone calls, some days too many considering only
a very few people have my number.  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Desi Noller
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen

Good Evening!  My husband has been missing some calls lately, and we were
perplexed as to why.  He is running iOS 7 on an iPhone 4S.  Anyway, what we
discovered is that when his screen is locked, his calls seem to be going
directly to VoiceMail rather than ringing.  Does anyone have any ideas as to
what we can do to correct this?  We have looked into all the settings we can
think of.  Any help with this would be most appreciated!

Desi



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RE: iTunes Radio

2013-10-02 Thread Rose Combs
Yes, I did but that was a few days ago.  Have been too busy to even look at
it for a week or more.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lois Butterfield
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes Radio

Rose,

Did you try swiping up with 3 fingers?  There are several pages of stations.

Lois


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes Radio

Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the problem.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set 
 I assume.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations. 
 This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at 
 the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre 
 or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can 
 double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up 
 beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.
 
 On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
 All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi 
 something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not 
 found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like 
 music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.
 
 I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I 
 think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Penny Golden
 Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost 
 as much. I bought A horse Named Bill, sung by the poet Carl 
 Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though 
 I was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin 
 piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents, 
 but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was
 99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was 
 one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
 Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music 
 part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few 
 tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun 
 voting for what I liked and occasionally saying: Never play this again.
 Why, it is so very arbitry.
 And so much fun. But when I went to iTunes, my genre stations were 
 not being found. So you've showed me where they are.
 I'd better stop. More another time.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:47 pm
 Subject: iTunes Radio
 
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I finally got around to playing with iTunes radio which is in the 
 music folder of ios 7. With this cold holding on for over a week, 
 I've spent a lot of time laying around doing not much of anything so 
 I thought this would be a good time to give it a test drive.  I 
 should also say that I'm not much of a radio fan.  I don't like 
 other folks selecting what sort of music I listen to.  Apparently 
 with this app all you need to do is to enter into the text entry 
 field, the name of a song, an album, or an artist.  So, I typed in 
 The
Eagles
 iTunes radio came back and offered me Eagles Radio  Wow! I thought 
 that meant that I would hear one Eagles tune after another but 
 instead, I get great songs that go together.  I suppose there are 
 other music apps and services out there but I see what their doing 
 here.  They played a song by The-Nitty-Gritty-Dirt-Band called An 
 American Dream which I hadn't heard in some time and I decided to 
 add it to my collection.  Wow again! a buck twenty
   nine USAID.  You could go to the poor house buying songs 1 at a 
 time.  I wonder if there is anything like ten songs of your choosing 
 for an album price.  Sense I have no experience 

Re: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen

2013-10-02 Thread Hope Paulos
You want to make sure the phone app is in the notification center and view  in 
locked screen is on. Sounds simple but worth a check. 
HTH 
Hope

 On Oct 2, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank goodness I don't have that problem as my phone is generally locked all
 day at work and I still get phone calls, some days too many considering only
 a very few people have my number.  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Desi Noller
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:00 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen
 
 Good Evening!  My husband has been missing some calls lately, and we were
 perplexed as to why.  He is running iOS 7 on an iPhone 4S.  Anyway, what we
 discovered is that when his screen is locked, his calls seem to be going
 directly to VoiceMail rather than ringing.  Does anyone have any ideas as to
 what we can do to correct this?  We have looked into all the settings we can
 think of.  Any help with this would be most appreciated!
 
 Desi
 
 
 
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Apps are taking up to 50 seconds to start running? Hmm, that sounds like 
you need to restore and start over. Even if iOS runs slower on older 
phones, apps won't take 50 seconds to start up. i just can't buy that.


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On 9/30/2013 10:25 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Yes, IOs 7  is good running on new devices like iPhone 4s, 5 and 5s, but
this new IOs make slower the iPhone 4, and is very annoying try to run
what ever app when voice over works so slow, when what ever app takes
until 50 seconds to start opening, and when we have to try and try
several times to run an app. Is obvious that IOs 7 is heavy for the
processor that the iPhone 4 has, so make an update of operated system
will be good for the users who has iDevices with processors relative
new, but not every body is in position of go to buy an iPhone 5s, or pay
around 800$ every years when ever apple create an new device. We are
customers, and customers of apple doesn't mean richness.
Is a lot of people who had to make a very hard effort to buy an iPhone,
so why apple is trying to make those devices slower, and push them to
buy new devices with faster processors to run what ever IOs apple wants?
We are the owners of our iDevices, we are not renting those devices, so
if I paid for that device, why apple has rights on my property?



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new ring tones

2013-10-02 Thread Elizabeth Campbell
Hello all,

Sorry if I'm bringing up a topic that has already been mentioned, but I like
the new ring tones added in IOS 7.

 

I also discovered that the classic ones are still available.

 

Liz 

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Re: iTunes Radio

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
You can create a station based upon a song, an artist, or a genera.  that's 
what it said so I typed in the first group name that came to mind.  I typed 
in The Eagles  and double tapped search in the lower right-hand corner.  I 
got back in about 2 seconds Eagles Radio  Music and interviews with the 
band.  I figured it works for me.  What happens is the station plays songs 
that would go great with the Eagles sound.


Of course all of this is done so Apple can sell you songs and albums.  I 
came across a song that I decided to buy that I use to like and haven't 
heard in a wile.  An American Dream by the Nitty Gritty Dirt band.  It 
popped up and it cost me a buck twenty nine cents.  Not exactly cheap and I 
did not see any options as to format.  I would have preferred .MP3 format 
but it's ok too in ogg format.  I have no experience with Pandora but my 23 
year old son says iTunes radio is just like Pandora only Apple's version of 
it.  Well, couldn't prove it by me so I'll take his word for it.  I didn't 
see any to pull up local radio stations though.  It does say iTunes radio. 
If that's the case then they should of called it the iTunes Music Player 
instead to avoid confusion for us old people.

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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio



Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting 
with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:


I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set I
assume.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations.
This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at the
bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre or 
choose
from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can double tap on 
the

create new station button and then it'll show up beneath the featured
stations in a section called My Stations.

On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:

All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi
something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not
found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like
music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.

I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I
think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Penny Golden
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost
as much. I bought A horse Named Bill, sung by the poet Carl
Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though I
was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin
piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents,
but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was
99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was
one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music
part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few
tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun
voting for what I liked and occasionally saying: Never play this again.

Why, it is so very arbitry.

And so much fun. But when I went to iTunes, my genre stations were not
being found. So you've showed me where they are.
I'd better stop. More another time.


- Original Message -
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:47 pm
Subject: iTunes Radio




Hi All,

I finally got around to playing with iTunes radio which is in the
music folder of ios 7. With this cold holding on for over a week,
I've spent a lot of time laying around doing not much of anything so
I thought this would be a good time to give it a test drive.  I
should also say that I'm not much of a radio fan.  I don't 

Re: Where do Bard Books go after being Added?

2013-10-02 Thread Richard Turner
Try removing BARD from the app switcher, and then opening the app again. It may 
be that the app hasn't had a chance to process the zip files.
That is just a shot in the dark.
HTH,

Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

 On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:23 AM, Dani L Pagador axs@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, Everyone.
 Thanks for answering my question about how to add books using iTunes. I 
 managed to follow the directions, but can’t find the books on my iPod.
  
 When I open the Bard Mobile app and choose the Audiobook tab from the 
 bookshelf, it shows only four books. When I try to add the books I think 
 should be there but aren’t, I get asked whether I want to replace the file 
 that’s already there—I’m using zipped files downloaded from the website.
  
 Thanks as always for clarifying,
 Dani
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Wow, nice sexist comments here. smile. So you are saying that because 
the person involved with the colors is a woman, then she used her 
feminine influence for the colors? Do you have data to back this up, or 
is it merely speculation like most other things.  Then you go on to say 
that the teenagers who are young mails will be the ones who want to 
tinker? So, you are saying that females can't tinker, or don't have the 
drive and hormones necessary to want to tinker because they are female? 
Yes, I'm probably reading too much into what you say, but seriously man, 
either you have some serious sexist issues, or your sense of humor 
totally went over my head. Personally when i see a woman tinkering, 
developing, ETC whether it's Android, iPhone, or whatever I think it's 
sexy as can be.


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On 9/30/2013 10:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new
interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of the
new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and
overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after new
female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young males
are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some point
the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply
wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.

Joseph

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From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Hi Cara,



Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of days
ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone.  He
says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible and
the font is just as bad.



I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I
was expecting from Apple.



Ron  Danvers





Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly.



A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their own
way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me
that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the upscale
chic look and feel of iOS for what I can only describe as a thrown together
gaudy amateurish look.



For as much polish as the parallax effect has, the rest of the OS is so
overly scaled down as to be just plain ugly.



Just to illustrate one basic example, now what are being read by VO as
buttons, in some cases, are simply a very light grey word on a white
background. There are no borders making this look like a button, no
indication that this item should be tapped to be activated and no really
definite way to tell if the button is active or not. The font is so thin as
to make it difficult to read and as I said, pretty much impossible to
distinguish between being active or inactive.



This is absolutely awful and inconsiderate for people with any kind of
visual difficulties at all. Not to mention just the major change in user
interface paradigm.



I have absolutely no idea what Apple was thinking with this one and quite
frankly, it makes me ashamed.



This is just not cool and I really hope reason once again prevails here.



apple, please do live up to your excellent standards and turn this one
around right away so that everyone can enjoy this OS rather than need to
suffer through it.



At the very least, please consider bringing back at least some classic mode
of visual interface (as you have done by keeping original ringtones) for
those who can see, but whose vision might not be perfect. At the very least,
consider bringing back an option for an homage to the classic look and feel.
This would make worlds of difference for many people.



This would go a long way to really showing that Apple inclusiveness. this is
not just a matter of a new cool look. This is a matter of a whole lot of
difficulty for many users whom may not even technically have vision problems
but for whom this OS is just plain difficult to work with.



These are just a few of my thoughts. Thanks so much for reading!



Smiles,



Cara :)

On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:15 AM, gregorysc...@gmail.com wrote:



You 

Re: voices in voice dream

2013-10-02 Thread Richard Turner
Go to setings in Voice Dream and select manage voices, then along the bottom 
you will find tabs including one called IOS Built-in voices. Those ard the only 
new voices I have noticed.
HTH,

Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

 On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:22 AM, David Gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is my understanding correct that there are new voices available in the Voice 
 Dream app with the 7.0 update?
  
 If yes, how do you download them?
  
 Thanks
  
 David Gross
  
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Phone is frozen, how do I fix this?

2013-10-02 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
All of a sudden my phone is saying nothing and the battery is not dead.  It’s 
like it’s off but when I turn it on nothing happens.  
I’ve had this problem once before but I forget what was done to get it right 
once again.  
Jen  

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I lost all my book marks in safari and I don't know how to get them back

2013-10-02 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I lost all my book marks in safari when I updated to ios 7 and I’m wondering 
how I add them back.  
Also, I have apple, disney, and I honestly can’t remember the other thing 
showing up in safari.  How do I get rid of them too?  
Jen  

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Email and iOS question

2013-10-02 Thread Shane clark
Hi,
In my email gMail settings, I have it set to show up to 50 emails... However, 
now I'm seeing like 66 or s being shown... Is this something new inviOS 7, or 
could it be VO is reading more than is there?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Where do Bard Books go after being Added?

2013-10-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
They should show up in the Bookshelf in the BARD Mobile app, which is 
where you're looking. The instructions I saw yesterday said that you may 
have to remove the BARD Mobile app from the App Switcher and then start 
it up again to see new books you've added through iTunes. The fact that 
the BARD site is down due to the US government shut down may also be 
figuring into this.


On 10/02/2013 07:23 AM, Dani L Pagador wrote:

Hi, Everyone.

Thanks for answering my question about how to add books using iTunes. I
managed to follow the directions, but can’t find the books on my iPod.

When I open the Bard Mobile app and choose the Audiobook tab from the
bookshelf, it shows only four books. When I try to add the books I think
should be there but aren’t, I get asked whether I want to replace the
file that’s already there—I’m using zipped files downloaded from the
website.

Thanks as always for clarifying,

Dani

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Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, what if this is a fail safe in case your physical home button isn't 
working? This way you can go to the home screen without using the button.


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On 9/30/2013 11:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi Cara,

I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the other 
apps from the switcher?  I mean, since you can’t close home, why bother having 
it as the last available option since obviously, all the person can do is go to 
their home screen from that point.  lol.  I think home shouldn’t even be an 
option in the app switcher.  Its border line ridiculous.

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:


HI Christopher,

For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the next 
app in the switcher.

Have a great day!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger 
swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now has 
focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to swipe to 
the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for you.

Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the 
iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting issues 
and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for the blind 
is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from discussing 
anything here on the list.

On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:

In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we lazy to 
adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to complain 
about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and problem...


Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad


On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close
it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app
won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late at
night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders.


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Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts?

I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them.
Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets
focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that
app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap after
changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next app
in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS
6.


On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote:
Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as
to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to
swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about
that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock
orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7?
Shawn
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Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

2013-10-02 Thread Carol Pearson
I agree with you here. I tried tapping on home but that did not take me back to 
home and I was forced to press the home button anyway, so why not just let the 
app do it for us!

Carol P
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On 2 Oct 2013, at 01:43 am, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I don’t think it really matters though.  My entire point was, it doesn’t make 
sense for home to bee in the app switcher if all other apps are closed.  It 
should just take you directly to the home screen since the only thing you can 
do is lock your phone or go to the home screen.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

 On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program
 on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing
 the home button I can still see why Apple would have made  this icon a
 choice.
 
 On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never
 
 got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps
 in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich.
 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM
 Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]
 
 
 Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else
 left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
 devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.
 
 I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite
 thing
 in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem
 like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but
 no
 immediate plans to upgrade today.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]
 
 Hi,
 
 All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was
 saying,
 why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been
 close?
 Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the
 homescreen
 in the app switcher.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
 Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that,
 you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on
 app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen,
 then back to the app switcher.
 In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally
 different from iOS 6.
 
 On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're right! Didn't think about that. :)
 
 Very good point and I agree with you.
 
 I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO
 users or not. Now you've got me curious.
 
 Will be exploring this with sighted friends.
 
 Thanks and have a good night!
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have
 been closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close
 automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action
 left to perform.
 
 For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see
 the 2 apps plus the home screen.  Cool.  But, once I've close those 2
 apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to
 close it and return to the home screen.  So, why then force the user
 to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a
 logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do?
 This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed
 in IOS 7.  Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the
 switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still
 do.  Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc.  But this is no
 longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to
 control center.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Ricardo,
 
 Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the
 screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6.
 
 I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can
 dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the
 scrub that I know of.
 
 Not sure what this one 

Re: I lost all my book marks in safari and I don't know how to get them back

2013-10-02 Thread Isaac Hebert
You should be able to restore you're bookmarksby restoring you're
phone from you're backup.

On 10/2/13, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Hi,
 I lost all my book marks in safari when I updated to ios 7 and I’m wondering
 how I add them back.
 Also, I have apple, disney, and I honestly can’t remember the other thing
 showing up in safari.  How do I get rid of them too?
 Jen

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Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

2013-10-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If you flick up or down, you'll hear the option to remove the item from 
the App Switcher. You can then just double tap to have it removed. This 
is the action item in the roter, and the default action is to open the item.


On 10/02/2013 07:28 AM, Andy Baracco wrote:

No, all that will do is to relaunch the app. A 3 finger swipe up will
dismiss the highlighted app.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to
close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened
app?
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- Original Message - From: Ron Miller rockygu...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]


I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher,
then. There are times When I want to free up all resources  have
everything
unloaded.

I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to
the app I want to close  flick up once to invoke close. I can then just
double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The
three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten
pretty used to setting to close then moving to  double-tapping the item
to close.

Best regards,

Ron Miller


On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou
jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program
on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing
the home button I can still see why Apple would have made  this icon a
choice.


On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I
have never

got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other
apps
in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich.
- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]



Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing
else
left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.

I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite
thing
in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact
seem
like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but
no
immediate plans to upgrade today.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

Hi,

All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was
saying,
why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been
close?
Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the
homescreen
in the app switcher.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com
wrote:

Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that,
you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on
app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen,
then back to the app switcher.
In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally
different from iOS 6.


On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
You're right! Didn't think about that. :)

Very good point and I agree with you.

I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO
users or not. Now you've got me curious.

Will be exploring this with sighted friends.

Thanks and have a good night!

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com

wrote:


Hi,

But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have
been closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close
automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action

left to perform.


For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see
the 2 apps plus the home screen. 

Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

2013-10-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If you're physical home button isn't working then you have bigger 
problems than closing out your App Switcher! :-) Sorry, couldn't resist.


On 10/02/2013 08:30 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi, what if this is a fail safe in case your physical home button isn't
working? This way you can go to the home screen without using the button.

--
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appropriate. - Sheldon Cooper
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On 9/30/2013 11:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi Cara,

I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all
the other apps from the switcher?  I mean, since you can’t close home,
why bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all
the person can do is go to their home screen from that point.  lol.  I
think home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher.  Its
border line ridiculous.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:


HI Christopher,

For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than
to the next app in the switcher.

Have a great day!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three
finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the
next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up
and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it
works for me but not for you.

Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or
the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and
reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better
experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message
doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list.

On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:

In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and
we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We
like to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny
bug and problem...


Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad


On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app
to close
it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the
home app
won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing
this late at
night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four
cylinders.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts?

I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close
them.
Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets
focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to
remove that
app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double
tap after
changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the
next app
in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher
worked in IOS
6.


On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote:
Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as
to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to
swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about
that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock
orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7?
Shawn
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Re: Phone is frozen, how do I fix this?

2013-10-02 Thread Isaac Hebert
Is you're phone in DFU mode? Did you try forcing you're phone in to
recovery mode?

On 10/2/13, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Hi,
 All of a sudden my phone is saying nothing and the battery is not dead.
 It’s like it’s off but when I turn it on nothing happens.
 I’ve had this problem once before but I forget what was done to get it right
 once again.
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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
I just had my wife check on her iPhone 4.  It is showing her that the update is 
there but it isn't trying to force her to install it and as was already said, 
you have to agree to the terms of use before the software will install and 
quite frankly, I don't believe the story that the iPhone is automatically 
installing the new iOS 7.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Cara Quinn 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


  Please do keep us up to date.


  Rather than speculation, please do let us know what happens with this if you 
would?


  Thanks so much!


  Smiles,


  Cara :)

  On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Ierne grattanhe...@gmail.com wrote:


  This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The iPhone 
is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a charger and 
with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't getting very far 
on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is daft!  But it does 
appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to downloading this auto 
update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie Lynch seems to have done, 
that the update will go ahead and install, even without the OK from the user?  
Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if so.  Spoken as a long-term 
customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.


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Re: Questions re Bard Mobile

2013-10-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
No, in the user settings you can change it to use mobile. this means 
it'll use cellular data when you don't have a wifi connection available.


On 10/02/2013 07:14 AM, Dani L Pagador wrote:

Hi, Everyone.

I’ve got an iPod 4th gen, and don’t have a data plan or hot spot thingy.
Do I need either of these to use Bard Mobile when I’m on the go i.e.,
not where my modem and router are?

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: Email and iOS question

2013-10-02 Thread Isaac Hebert
It is a new enhancement in iOS 7 that tells you how many messages you
really have.

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 Hi,
 In my email gMail settings, I have it set to show up to 50 emails...
 However, now I'm seeing like 66 or s being shown... Is this something new
 inviOS 7, or could it be VO is reading more than is there?

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
I swear I heard the letters being announced as you paused on each letter in 
the telephone key pad but I just tried it on my iPhone 4 and they are not 
being announced just the number.  So I conclude from this that I'm nuts! 
grin

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Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again


I could have sworn I've heard those letters since upgrading to IOS 7, but 
you're right, I'm not hearing them now, and I do have hints turned on in my 
voiceOver settings.


On 10/01/2013 08:01 PM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Before upgrading to IOS7, I turned hints on settings. The letters on the
telephone keypad are gone again. I have checked the settings several 
times

and turned my phone off. The letters are not coming back.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Lynda



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Re: Email and iOS question

2013-10-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
In IOS 6, at the bottom of the mail box, it told you how many total 
messages you had, so this isn't a new feature put in place to address 
that question.


On 10/02/2013 08:40 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote:

It is a new enhancement in iOS 7 that tells you how many messages you
really have.

On 10/2/13, Shane clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
In my email gMail settings, I have it set to show up to 50 emails...
However, now I'm seeing like 66 or s being shown... Is this something new
inviOS 7, or could it be VO is reading more than is there?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Questions re Bard Mobile

2013-10-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
No, in the user settings you can change it to use mobile. this means 
it'll use cellular data when you don't have a wifi connection available.


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Hi, Everyone.

I’ve got an iPod 4th gen, and don’t have a data plan or hot spot thingy.
Do I need either of these to use Bard Mobile when I’m on the go i.e.,
not where my modem and router are?

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: Email and iOS question

2013-10-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
In IOS 6, at the bottom of the mail box, it told you how many total 
messages you had, so this isn't a new feature put in place to address 
that question.


On 10/02/2013 08:40 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote:

It is a new enhancement in iOS 7 that tells you how many messages you
really have.

On 10/2/13, Shane clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
In my email gMail settings, I have it set to show up to 50 emails...
However, now I'm seeing like 66 or s being shown... Is this something new
inviOS 7, or could it be VO is reading more than is there?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iTunes Radio

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
I have found that if I hit the next button to move to the next song, you 
will reach a point where you can't move forward through the songs being 
played and the forward button goes dimmed.  Going back several songs will 
then activate the next button again but only those few songs so, it does 
appear that there is a limit on the number of times you can jump forward. 
I'd suspect that the same would hold true in reverse.

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From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio



HI Rose and All,

Try this;

Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured Stations 
Area. Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area you find, and 
interact with it as well.


Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to navigate 
the stations. I've found that though many of them say dimmed, when you 
navigate back through them once again, they will read properly. This seems 
like it may be a VO issue.


Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)

Have a great night!

Cara :)
On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the 
problem.




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Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:


I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set
I assume.


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Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations.
This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at
the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre
or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can
double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up
beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.

On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:

All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi
something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not
found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like
music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.

I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I
think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Penny Golden
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost
as much. I bought A horse Named Bill, sung by the poet Carl
Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though
I was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin
piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents,
but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was
99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was
one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music
part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few
tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun
voting for what I liked and occasionally saying: Never play this again.

Why, it is so very arbitry.

And so much fun. But when I went to iTunes, my genre stations were
not being found. So you've showed me where they are.
I'd better stop. More another time.


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From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:47 pm
Subject: iTunes Radio




Hi All,

I finally got around to playing with iTunes radio which is in the
music folder of ios 7. With this cold holding on for over a week,
I've spent a lot of time laying around doing not much of anything so
I thought this would be a good time to 

Re: face time audio

2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Correct, in other words, Facetime audio only works with two iOS 7 
devices. Otherwise, I believe video is the only option.


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On 10/1/2013 10:48 AM, Neal Ewers wrote:

Raul and list. I tried to do a FaceTime audio with someone who does not have
iOS 7.0. I'm guessing they would have to have this in order for me to use
FaceTime audio?  Yes? No?

Neal


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Subject: Re: face time audio

Hi, face time calls are clearer. Also, if you are at home and you have
limited minutes you can face time all you want on your wi-fi from home and
it doesn't use up minutes or data. If on the other hand you have unlimited
minutes, then it may not matter as much, but again, usually face time calls
are clearer.

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Just wondering.  What's the advantage of making a face time audio call
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RE: Questions re Bard Mobile

2013-10-02 Thread Thom Spittle
He said that he had an iPod. So, no, there is no way to use it when you
don't have an internet connection. 
When I say use it that means download books. You can still listen to the
content that you have already put on the device.
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 Subject: Re: Questions re Bard Mobile
 
 No, in the user settings you can change it to use mobile. this means it'll
use
 cellular data when you don't have a wifi connection available.
 
 On 10/02/2013 07:14 AM, Dani L Pagador wrote:
  Hi, Everyone.
 
  I've got an iPod 4th gen, and don't have a data plan or hot spot thingy.
  Do I need either of these to use Bard Mobile when I'm on the go i.e.,
  not where my modem and router are?
 
  Thanks,
 
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Re: Email and iOS question

2013-10-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
In IOS 6, at the bottom of the mail box, it told you how many total 
messages you had, so this isn't a new feature put in place to address 
that question.


On 10/02/2013 08:40 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote:

It is a new enhancement in iOS 7 that tells you how many messages you
really have.

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Hi,
In my email gMail settings, I have it set to show up to 50 emails...
However, now I'm seeing like 66 or s being shown... Is this something new
inviOS 7, or could it be VO is reading more than is there?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Siri's performance in IOS7

2013-10-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Chris and others,

I have seen a lot of people reporting that apparently for them SIRI works
better if Voiceover is turned off. While SIRI sometimes tells me it can't
take a request or do something, usually it works as it should when it does
things.

Anyhow, I was wondering if anybody has actually taken the time to document
this behavior in detail and submitted it to accessibil...@apple.com which
should be the first thing that comes to mind if something doesn't work and
seems to be so because of Voiceover.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: Siri's performance in IOS7

Thanks.
i know what might have happened.
if i turn VoiceOver off Siri works well and all the way through.
but if i turn VoiceOver on Siri works part way through then die.


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On 01/10/2013 17:50, Eric Whitten wrote:
 Siri works better then it did on Ios6. I have a 4s

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all
 when i asked where the nearest mcdonalds was, all was well until i asked
to give me directions. then it stopped dead so had to lock the screen. any
ideas?

 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com

 On 01/10/2013 15:53, Brian Moore wrote:
 yeah, having some of the same issues. sometimes I get feedback and
 sometimes I don't.

 maybe this is a 4s thing but it seemed to work better before the 7.02
 upgrade.
 Brian.

 Contact me on skype: brian.moore
 follow me on twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

 On 01/10/2013 10:27 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:
 Well, I'll add in my $.02, as i'm checking e-mail anyway and often
 feel I need to jump in LOL.

 I, too, have been experiencing problems with siri's responsiveness. I
 am quite the loose-leaf tea addict, so have to set fairly specific
 timers for my tea to brew. When using IOS6, I could simply say siri,
 please set my timer for four minutes and thirty seconds and she would
 do it instantly. ever since upgrading, I'll ask siri to perform the
 same task (politely of course, because I'm a Canadian and that's how
 we roll), and then i'm usually met by a stoney silence. I follow that
 up by frantically swiping around the screen, and after a bit more
 silence, will hear things like things you can tell me. Ask Where's
 Brian? and not only do I not know Brian, I honestly couldn't give two
 flying you know what's about where he is at the moment. While this
 very uninspiring exchange is taking place between siri and myself, my
 tea is sitting there steeping confusedly, and then I just manually set
 a timer and try to account for the fight I just had with siri.

 What gives?
 Shermeen


 On 9/30/13, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 My coworker and driver got a 5C Saturday, Siri was very responsive
 compared
 to my 4S.  It did have to think a couple of times when she asked it a
 question, or used an unacceptable word after it told her it could not
 add a
 contact to her address book.

 It was amazing even my Husband's 5 seems slower than her phone but
 then she
 has no apps but the ones supplied, only had it less than 24 hours and
 had
 no
 clue about apps.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:25 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Re: Siri's performance in IOS7

 Hi,

 This isn't true 100% of the time.  If I tell Siri Tell Mary I will
give
 her
 a call in an hour.  At least for me, most of the time the message is
 read
 back.  The times when it isn't, its because VO interrupts it for some
 reason.  In this case, I place my finger on the screen, and flick to
the
 edit field and VO reads the message.  I find the error rate to be on
par
 with that found in IOS 6,  Maybe a little bit better.  But that isn't
 were
 Siri is really giving people a lot of headaches though.  Its Siri
 actually
 processing your requests.  This failure rate is way up in IOS 7.  I
 would
 say its near the levels when it made its debut on the iPhone 4S.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On Sep 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those of you using Siri and iOS 7, here are a few questions
 specifically related to dictation.
 I understand that Siri no longer reads back the text it has inserted
 when
 you do dictation. How then do you efficiently understand whether the
 text
 that has been inserted is correct? In iOS 6, this is easy because Siri
 reads
 it back.
 I have found that the error rate is very good in iOS 6. So most of the
 time, I don't have to hunt for anything to correct it, making the
 read back
 by far the most efficient means of knowing if my text is okay.
 So, how is the error rate in iOS 7 

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Eileens Misrahi
HELLO All,

When viewing this thread, I realized that only my name was pasted to it. So 
here goes again. When all of the noise about this supposed gliche started to 
circulate, everyone was afraid to charge their phone or plug it in to the 
computer of feaar that iOS 7 would upgrade one's device. Fortunately, this is 
not the case. Just think about what kind of trouble Apple would be in if iOS 7 
was automatically installed on the device.

Just yesterday, I plugged my iPhone 4 into the computer. I received the usual 
popup that iTunes will give when there is an upgrade. Of course, I press 
thecancel button and I was placed in the main screen of iTunes with no harm 
done. What surprise me more was that that this activated the popup on the 
phone. I was given 2 options: to download or to cancel. You can guess what I 
tapped on. Raul is correct that this feature has been on the iOS platform for a 
while andon this phone since 6.1.2 because I have been on the fence about 
jailbreaking as soon as I replace it with a new one. Well, it's taken so long 
that it's part of the settings announcement. So for those who are getting 
stressed out about this, just relax. No one is forcing you to upgrade. Apple 
can't afford anymore litigation and bad publicity. JMO.

Eileen  

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:41 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

 I just had my wife check on her iPhone 4.  It is showing her that the update 
 is there but it isn't trying to force her to install it and as was already 
 said, you have to agree to the terms of use before the software will install 
 and quite frankly, I don't believe the story that the iPhone is automatically 
 installing the new iOS 7.
 ---
  
 Regards,
  
 Alan
  
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
  
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
  
 Please click on: 
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 - Original Message -
 From: Cara Quinn
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:26 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
 
 Please do keep us up to date.
 
 Rather than speculation, please do let us know what happens with this if
 you would?
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Ierne grattanhe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The iPhone 
 is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a charger and 
 with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't getting very 
 far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is daft!  But it 
 does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to downloading this 
 auto update. And presumably we will now find, asFrankie Lynch seems to 
 have done, that the update will go ahead and install, even without the OK 
 from the user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if so.  Spoken as a 
 long-term customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.
 
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Re: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli

Open Settings, Do not disturb.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:59 PM
Subject: Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen


Good Evening!  My husband has been missing some calls lately, and we were 
perplexed as to why.  He is running iOS 7 on an iPhone 4S.  Anyway, what we 
discovered is that when his screen is locked, his calls seem to be going 
directly to VoiceMail rather than ringing.  Does anyone have any ideas as to 
what we can do to correct this?  We have looked into all the settings we can 
think of.  Any help with this would be most appreciated!


Desi



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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Jonathan Mosen
My daughter's boyfriend wants a 5C instead of a 5S, because he likes all the 
cool colours. My daughter, on the other hand, wants a 5S because she likes the 
64-bit processor. I told him she should upgrade her boyfriend while she's at 
it. Actually I'd prefer she didn't have a boyfriend at all but that's just me 
being a dad.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 3/10/2013, at 1:52 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 Wow, nice sexist comments here. smile. So you are saying that because the 
 person involved with the colors is a woman, then she used her feminine 
 influence for the colors? Do you have data to back this up, or is it merely 
 speculation like most other things.  Then you go on to say that the teenagers 
 who are young mails will be the ones who want to tinker? So, you are saying 
 that females can't tinker, or don't have the drive and hormones necessary to 
 want to tinker because they are female? Yes, I'm probably reading too much 
 into what you say, but seriously man, either you have some serious sexist 
 issues, or your sense of humor totally went over my head. Personally when i 
 see a woman tinkering, developing, ETC whether it's Android, iPhone, or 
 whatever I think it's sexy as can be.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Want to hear a Potassium joke? K. - Sheldon Cooper
 Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
 
 On 9/30/2013 10:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new
 interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of the
 new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and
 overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after new
 female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young males
 are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some point
 the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply
 wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
 Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
 
 
 Hi Cara,
 
 
 
 Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of days
 ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone.  He
 says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
 was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
 like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible and
 the font is just as bad.
 
 
 
 I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I
 was expecting from Apple.
 
 
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
 
 
 
 Falling down is part of LIFE...
 
 Getting back up is LIVING...
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cara Quinn
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
 
 
 
 Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly.
 
 
 
 A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their own
 way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me
 that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the upscale
 chic look and feel of iOS for what I can only describe as a thrown together
 gaudy amateurish look.
 
 
 
 For as much polish as the parallax effect has, the rest of the OS is so
 overly scaled down as to be just plain ugly.
 
 
 
 Just to illustrate one basic example, now what are being read by VO as
 buttons, in some cases, are simply a very light grey word on a white
 background. There are no borders making this look like a button, no
 indication that this item should be tapped to be activated and no really
 definite way to tell if the button is active or not. The font is so thin as
 to make it difficult to read and as I said, pretty much impossible to
 distinguish between being active or inactive.
 
 
 
 This is absolutely awful and inconsiderate for people with any kind of
 visual difficulties at all. Not to mention just the major change in user
 interface paradigm.
 
 
 
 I have absolutely no idea what Apple was thinking with this one and quite
 frankly, it makes me ashamed.
 
 
 
 This is just not cool and I really hope reason once again prevails here.
 
 
 
 apple, please do live up to your excellent standards and turn this one
 around right away so that everyone can enjoy this OS rather than need to
 suffer through it.
 
 
 
 At the very least, please consider bringing back at least some classic mode
 of visual interface (as you have done by keeping original ringtones) for
 those who can see, but whose 

Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

2013-10-02 Thread Russ Kiehne

Thanks, come to think about it, it did happen when I changed the volume.

-Original Message- 
From: Ricardo Walker

Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:09 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

Hi,

It only happens when playing audio content when you change the volume.  For 
some reason, Voiceover thinks the screen is unlocked when you do this so, 
after a minute or so, it will say screen locked.


hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:


I have this happen when playing any audio content.

-Original Message- From: Kimber Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

I'v had the same thing happen on my 4s running ios7.

On 10/1/13, SSEric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:


I just hear screen lock, without having heard any incoming mail, 
message,

etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including alarms, reminders,
etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some correlating event. This seems 
to

occur once or twice a day since the seven update.

Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on
Verizon, 16 GB black model.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Eric

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Re: Phone is frozen, how do I fix this?

2013-10-02 Thread Jen Colley
No,  I haven't done anything just went to unlock it and nothing was 
happening.

Jen

-Original Message- 
From: Isaac Hebert

Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone is frozen, how do I fix this?

Is you're phone in DFU mode? Did you try forcing you're phone in to
recovery mode?

On 10/2/13, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:

Hi,
All of a sudden my phone is saying nothing and the battery is not dead.
It’s like it’s off but when I turn it on nothing happens.
I’ve had this problem once before but I forget what was done to get it 
right

once again.
Jen

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Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

2013-10-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
lol,

if your home button wasn’t working, how would you get into the app switcher to 
begin with?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 2, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 Hi, what if this is a fail safe in case your physical home button isn't 
 working? This way you can go to the home screen without using the button.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 I was expecting applause, but I suppose stunned silence is equally 
 appropriate. - Sheldon Cooper
 Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
 
 On 9/30/2013 11:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi Cara,
 
 I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the 
 other apps from the switcher?  I mean, since you can’t close home, why 
 bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the 
 person can do is go to their home screen from that point.  lol.  I think 
 home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher.  Its border line 
 ridiculous.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI Christopher,
 
 For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to the 
 next app in the switcher.
 
 Have a great day!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three finger 
 swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next app now 
 has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and never have to 
 swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for me but not for 
 you.
 
 Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the 
 iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting 
 issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience for 
 the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep anyone from 
 discussing anything here on the list.
 
 On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we 
 lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like to 
 complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and 
 problem...
 
 
 Joanne Chua
 The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
 Send from my iPad
 
 On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app to close
 it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, plus the home app
 won't close but shows up so it can be confusing if one is doing this late 
 at
 night or early in the morning when not functioning on all four cylinders.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts?
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to close them.
 Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app gets
 focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up to remove that
 app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe up, or the double tap 
 after
 changing the action item to remove, you don't need to swipe to the next 
 app
 in the App Switcher. This is the same as how the App Switcher worked in 
 IOS
 6.
 
 On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote:
 Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was confused as
 to how it worked the first time and then I learned that you have to
 swipe through apps if you want to close them. I have a question about
 that though. I remember in older versions of iOS that you can lock
 orientation through the app switcher. How do you do that now in iOS7?
 Shawn
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Re: iTunes Radio

2013-10-02 Thread Jonathan Mosen
This is due to the agreements Apple has been able to make with the music 
companies, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in the US. If you use 
iTunes Match, you'll get more skips per hour than if you don't, but contrary to 
the conventional wisdom before iTunes Radio's release, you don't get unlimited 
skips. Subscribing to iTunes Match also makes iTunes Radio ad free.
Jonathan Mosen
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On 3/10/2013, at 2:50 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I have found that if I hit the next button to move to the next song, you will 
 reach a point where you can't move forward through the songs being played and 
 the forward button goes dimmed.  Going back several songs will then activate 
 the next button again but only those few songs so, it does appear that there 
 is a limit on the number of times you can jump forward. I'd suspect that the 
 same would hold true in reverse.
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! Move 
 out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:43 PM
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 
 HI Rose and All,
 
 Try this;
 
 Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured Stations 
 Area. Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area you find, and 
 interact with it as well.
 
 Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to navigate the 
 stations. I've found that though many of them say dimmed, when you navigate 
 back through them once again, they will read properly. This seems like it 
 may be a VO issue.
 
 Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)
 
 Have a great night!
 
 Cara :)
 On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the problem.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 Hi Rose,
 I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
 with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set
 I assume.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations.
 This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at
 the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre
 or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can
 double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up
 beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.
 
 On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
 All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi
 something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not
 found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like
 music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.
 
 I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I
 think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Penny Golden
 Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
 
 Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost
 as much. I bought A horse Named Bill, sung by the poet Carl
 Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though
 I was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin
 piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents,
 but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was
 99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was
 one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
 Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music
 part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few
 tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun
 voting for what I liked 

RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

2013-10-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Andy and Alan,

A 3-finger swipe up will close the app and if you have only one or 2 apps to
close I find I use that gesture as well. However, as Christopher already
said, you can also close an app by flicking up or down with 1 finger which
puts focus on the Close option of the action rotor and then double tap.
What I think it was Ron was describing was an easy and quick method to close
many apps since in the app switcher the rotor selection remains on Close
once you put it there. This means if you flick up or down with one finger
you can simply double tap on an app, it disappears and the next apps slides
over in its place, you can now continue to only double tap to close it and
so on.

What I find works even better and I have posted this twice is to use the
split tap. If I have 10 or more apps open and I want to close them all out I
just find the one immediately to the right of the Home button, so pretty
much right in the middle of the screen. I now flick down to change to Close,
then I put one finger on the app and start split tapping. I only have a 4S,
but doing this closes apps and slides them over just about as fast as I can
split tap, there is no delay and I can close 10 or 12 apps in probably about
3 seconds.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

No, all that will do is to relaunch the app. A 3 finger swipe up will
dismiss the highlighted app.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Alan Paganelli
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

Ron, are you saying you can just double tap the name of the app you want to
close in the switcher and it will close it and move on to the next opened
app?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: Ron Miller rockygu...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]


I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher,
then. There are times When I want to free up all resources  have everything
unloaded.

I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to
the app I want to close  flick up once to invoke close. I can then just
double-tap it, and move to the next app to close, double-tap and so on. The
three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've gotten
pretty used to setting to close then moving to  double-tapping the item
to close.

Best regards,

Ron Miller

 On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program
 on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing
 the home button I can still see why Apple would have made  this icon a
 choice.

 On 10/1/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have 
 never

 got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other 
 apps
 in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich.
 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM
 Subject: RE: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]


 Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing 
 else
 left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
 devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.

 I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite
 thing
 in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact 
 seem
 like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but
 no
 immediate plans to upgrade today.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Re: App Switcher [was Re: iOS 7, thoughts?]

 Hi,

 All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was
 saying,
 why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been
 close?
 Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the
 homescreen
 in the app switcher.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

Re: about Speed Up Player Pro again

2013-10-02 Thread Shannon Dyer
I've never used it with dropbox. I've used it after transferring books to my 
phone through ITunes. However, I would suggest transferring them to the native 
music app. When you open speedup, it sees the books there, and you can speed 
them up from there.

Shannon
On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Joanie Delzer joaniema...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Shannon, I don't know how to use the player at all. I thought that I could
 put a book in Dropbox and then export it to Speed Up Player Pro, but I can't
 find that option. And I'd appreciate it if you could go through the steps
 for me as to how to use it. It's not like exporting Bard books from Dropbox
 to the Bard bookshelf, at least not for me. I thought I could speed up mp3
 books that were in Dropbox, and that's why I bought it. 
 Thanks for any help you could give.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Shannon Dyer
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:34 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: about Speed Up Player Pro again
 
 Hi, Joanie.
 
 I use the speed up player. Are there specific things you're having problems
 with? If so, I would be happy to assist you.
 
 Shannon
 
 
 On Sep 29, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Joanie Delzer joaniema...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 The problem is: I don't know how to use this app. I'm sure it could be
 useful to me, but someone please write to the list or me about how to use
 it.
 Thanks!
 Joanie
 
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Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

2013-10-02 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I wonder what this means in a wider context. Does this mean Apple can push VO 
updates seamlessly without updating the entire OS? Really curious.
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On 3/10/2013, at 3:40 AM, Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 Nope, you're not nuts!  The letter announcement was there just a couple of
 days ago.  No more, though.  Interesting.
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:47 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again
 
 I swear I heard the letters being announced as you paused on each letter in
 the telephone key pad but I just tried it on my iPhone 4 and they are not
 being announced just the number.  So I conclude from this that I'm nuts! 
 grin
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:42 PM
 Subject: Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again
 
 
 I could have sworn I've heard those letters since upgrading to IOS 7, but 
 you're right, I'm not hearing them now, and I do have hints turned on in my
 
 voiceOver settings.
 
 On 10/01/2013 08:01 PM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 Before upgrading to IOS7, I turned hints on settings. The letters on the
 telephone keypad are gone again. I have checked the settings several 
 times
 and turned my phone off. The letters are not coming back.
 
 Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Lynda
 
 
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Re: new ring tones

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
I think they kind of sort of had to keep the old tones or listen to people 
moaning and groaning because they had selected specific tones for friends and 
family.  For example, I had assigned the dog bark ring tone to Leader Dogs for 
the Blind sense I have a Leader Dog and it amuses me when my phone starts 
barking!  I know it's LD calling.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

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http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Campbell 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:58 AM
  Subject: new ring tones


  Hello all,

  Sorry if I'm bringing up a topic that has already been mentioned, but I like 
the new ring tones added in IOS 7.

   

  I also discovered that the classic ones are still available.

   

  Liz 


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RE: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

2013-10-02 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Nope, you're not nuts!  The letter announcement was there just a couple of
days ago.  No more, though.  Interesting.
God bless!
Paula and Babe

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

I swear I heard the letters being announced as you paused on each letter in
the telephone key pad but I just tried it on my iPhone 4 and they are not
being announced just the number.  So I conclude from this that I'm nuts! 
grin
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again


I could have sworn I've heard those letters since upgrading to IOS 7, but 
you're right, I'm not hearing them now, and I do have hints turned on in my

voiceOver settings.

 On 10/01/2013 08:01 PM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 Before upgrading to IOS7, I turned hints on settings. The letters on the
 telephone keypad are gone again. I have checked the settings several 
 times
 and turned my phone off. The letters are not coming back.

 Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

 Thank you.

 Lynda


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Re: new ring tones

2013-10-02 Thread Wayne Merritt
I'm glad they kept the older tones since I can't always hear the new
ones due to my hearing loss. I have gotten used to some of the older
ones that are quite distinct, like the old phone and the callipso
sound for text messages. I do like many of the newer ones though.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/2/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I think they kind of sort of had to keep the old tones or listen to people
 moaning and groaning because they had selected specific tones for friends
 and family.  For example, I had assigned the dog bark ring tone to Leader
 Dogs for the Blind sense I have a Leader Dog and it amuses me when my phone
 starts barking!  I know it's LD calling.
 ---

 Regards,

 Alan

 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

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 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

   - Original Message -
   From: Elizabeth Campbell
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:58 AM
   Subject: new ring tones


   Hello all,

   Sorry if I'm bringing up a topic that has already been mentioned, but I
 like the new ring tones added in IOS 7.



   I also discovered that the classic ones are still available.



   Liz


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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Mike Arrigo
I checked out the 5 s and the 5 c at an Apple store. As far as the 
outside, the 5 s looks exactly like the 5. The one difference is that 
there is a ring around the home button for the finger print scanner. 
The 5 c is rather interesting. Since it's plastic, I was wondering how 
it would feel, and it actually is quite good. Definitely well built. 
One thing I don't like is that other countries get the unlocked version 
of the 5 s right away, but, just as in the past, the unlocked version 
of this phone will not be in the Apple stores for a while.

Original message:

Hi Sieghard,



thanks for this!



yes, the 5S sounds pretty sweet! Can't wait to check out the camera and M7.


As far as the iOS 7 UI, no, I sure don't think Apple will do a 180, but 
it would be nice if they can offer some sort of customization which 
might at least harken back to a more contoured, textured iOS 6-esque UI 
or do something to liven up the flat look they have now. :)


I've got to tell you it really does make some 3rd party apps look super 
ugly! Not kidding! lol!


Apple did quite a bit of customization on the UI to get their own apps 
to look like they do. If you use the standard developer tools apps look 
pretty lousy in the latest OS. Previously if one used the standard UI 
elements when designing apps, 3rd party apps would look just as good as 
Apple's own. Not anymore! lol! They basically look like a squared-off 
child's line drawing. -And not in the good way! lol!



Anyway, enough of that.


As I said, I'm looking forward to the camera and M7 coprocessor in the 
5S. Really want to see how this works to enhance camera and GPS based apps!



Smiles,



Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:



Hi Cara,



I think there are many millions of users out there who will probably
disagree. I listened to the Today in iOS Podcast tonight and most of the
calls that came in were very positive. Granted, many were about the 5S, but
iOS 7 was also mentioned a lot. One older lady did mention the contrast
thing. Anyhow, I guess we are stuck with it and while Apple may listen and
improve the readability, I doubt they do a 180 and bring the old look back.
My guess is that they will tweek this and improve upon it so let's hope they
will fix it so that our iOS groups list owner doesn't have to be ashamed
*smile*.



The 5S by the way gets pretty awesome reviews and apparently totally kicks
butt in all the benchmark tests.



It is also not to be overlooked that Apple sold 9 million iPhones worldwide
on the first weekend, some of them apparently are still in chanel which
means not yet in the hands of the end user, and they do have a couple of
large new carriers, but given the shortages in many places it does sound
like a pretty impressive number.




Regards,
Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly!
lol!



Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically like bright gaudy
colors or stark nondescript grey on white. So there! lol!



Smiles,



Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com
wrote:



Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new
interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of the
new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and
overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after new



female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young males



are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some point



the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply
wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.



Joseph



- Original Message -
From: Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.




Hi Cara,





Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of days
ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone.  He
says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible and
the font is just as bad.





I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I
was expecting from Apple.





Ron  Danvers







Falling down is part of LIFE...



Getting back up is LIVING...





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

Question On Bible Formatting

2013-10-02 Thread Keith Bundy
Hi, list. I notice that the Bible app from Life Church andthe Feable Gateway 
app have some weird formatting issues, particularly where verses are written in 
poetry. It is not unusual !h only one word per line on the Braille display, 
which makes reading reY awkward in Bible studies.
Does anyone know ofa program that provides multiple versions ofthe Bible that 
are less awkward !read in Braille? Thanks for any recommendNs.

Keith

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Re: new ring tones

2013-10-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
I used the old phone tone for a long time for my tone and just left it on 
the default tone when i installed iOS 7 but the new tones sound a bit 
sissyish to me. I'll probably eventually switch it back to the old phone 
tone.

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- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: new ring tones



I'm glad they kept the older tones since I can't always hear the new
ones due to my hearing loss. I have gotten used to some of the older
ones that are quite distinct, like the old phone and the callipso
sound for text messages. I do like many of the newer ones though.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/2/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
I think they kind of sort of had to keep the old tones or listen to 
people

moaning and groaning because they had selected specific tones for friends
and family.  For example, I had assigned the dog bark ring tone to Leader
Dogs for the Blind sense I have a Leader Dog and it amuses me when my 
phone

starts barking!  I know it's LD calling.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message -
  From: Elizabeth Campbell
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:58 AM
  Subject: new ring tones


  Hello all,

  Sorry if I'm bringing up a topic that has already been mentioned, but I
like the new ring tones added in IOS 7.



  I also discovered that the classic ones are still available.



  Liz


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Re: 4 finger single tap bug?

2013-10-02 Thread Wayne Merritt
Responding late to the 4 finger tap toward the bottom of the screen
issue, this works for me most of the time, however I have noticed a
few places that it does not work. For example, if I go into Messages
on my iPhone, and open the very long conversation between my wife and
I, when I put 4 fingers toward the bottom of the screen I often hear
part of the keyboard. This mostly happens after I have received a
message from her and when the virtual keyboard is showing. This is an
annoying bug but not one to get real upset about, IMO. I then touch
near the bottom of the screen with 4 fingers and get to the send
button, where I can swipe left to the text area to write in a
response. As I say though, the 4 finger tap at the bottom of the
screen works most of the time for me. Running iOS 7 on an iPhone 5.

Regards,
Wayne

On 9/24/13, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 I asked this before, but, let's say I am in the twitter app and I have not
 been there for a day and 100 messages have come in.  I want to move to the
 number one message, in row 1 and read down to where I left off last time
 but
 my app opens on let's say row 200.  Is there a way to get to row 1 without
 having to swipe my back for every three to four rows?  I know how to get to
 the top of the screen but what I want is to be at the top of the list.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: 4 finger single tap bug?

 Hi Dan,

 The 4-finger tap is meant to take you to the last element on the screen
 which in the case of the Inbox in the mail app is the Compose button at the
 very bottom right. If you want to go to the last email all you have to do
 is
 swipe left twice from Compose and you are on the last email.

 I guess one could argue that maybe it should take you to the last item or
 element in whichever particular container you are in since the iPhone now
 does have Containers and the container which includes the Last Updated
 time and the Compose button is separate from the container which contains
 all the messages.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Dan Beaver
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:11 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: 4 finger single tap bug?

 hi,
 on my iPhone 5, it does the same thing.  in email A four finger single tap
   says compose instead of going to the last email in the list Dan Beaver

 On Sep 21, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Victor Marques
 victormarques0...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On my iPad mini, I notice sometimes that the 4 finger single tap
 towards the bottom of the screen (which should take you to the last
 element on the page) does sometimes work, but almost just as often it
 has some unpredictable result, such as performing a tap action for
 example.  Any of you able to repliccate this as a bug?

 Thanks
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Re: Email and iOS question

2013-10-02 Thread Shermeen Khan
Yes, I imagine that this wasn't an enhancement as much as it was
likely an oversight on Apple's part. I remedied the situation by
having my phone mark previously received mail as read, although the
fact that it's still downloading eleven thousand email messages is a
bit concerning. I'm hoping apple will revert back to letting us set an
appropriate limit, especially since I really don't need additional
reminders of how irresponsible I am about responding to or deleting
emails!
Shermeen


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 In IOS 6, at the bottom of the mail box, it told you how many total
 messages you had, so this isn't a new feature put in place to address
 that question.

 On 10/02/2013 08:40 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote:
 It is a new enhancement in iOS 7 that tells you how many messages you
 really have.

 On 10/2/13, Shane clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 In my email gMail settings, I have it set to show up to 50 emails...
 However, now I'm seeing like 66 or s being shown... Is this something
 new
 inviOS 7, or could it be VO is reading more than is there?

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread TaraPrakash
I can confirm the same expedience on my iPhone five. I was offered an upgrade 
which I rejected. I am still using the order version on my iPhone five. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 HELLO All,
 
 When viewing this thread, I realized that only my name was pasted to it. So 
 here goes again. When all of the noise about this supposed gliche started to 
 circulate, everyone was afraid to charge their phone or plug it in to the 
 computer of feaar that iOS 7 would upgrade one's device. Fortunately, this is 
 not the case. Just think about what kind of trouble Apple would be in if iOS 
 7 was automatically installed on the device.
 
 Just yesterday, I plugged my iPhone 4 into the computer. I received the usual 
 popup that iTunes will give when there is an upgrade. Of course, I press 
 thecancel button and I was placed in the main screen of iTunes with no harm 
 done. What surprise me more was that that this activated the popup on the 
 phone. I was given 2 options: to download or to cancel. You can guess what I 
 tapped on. Raul is correct that this feature has been on the iOS platform for 
 a while andon this phone since 6.1.2 because I have been on the fence about 
 jailbreaking as soon as I replace it with a new one. Well, it's taken so long 
 that it's part of the settings announcement. So for those who are getting 
 stressed out about this, just relax. No one is forcing you to upgrade. Apple 
 can't afford anymore litigation and bad publicity. JMO.
 
 Eileen  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:41 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 I just had my wife check on her iPhone 4.  It is showing her that the update 
 is there but it isn't trying to force her to install it and as was already 
 said, you have to agree to the terms of use before the software will install 
 and quite frankly, I don't believe the story that the iPhone is 
 automatically installing the new iOS 7.
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 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
  
 Please click on: 
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 - Original Message -
 From: Cara Quinn
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:26 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
 
 Please do keep us up to date.
 
 Rather than speculation, please do let us know what happens with this if you 
 would?
 
 Thanks so much!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Ierne grattanhe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The 
 iPhone is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a 
 charger and with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't 
 getting very far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is 
 daft!  But it does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to 
 downloading this auto update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie 
 Lynch seems to have done, that the update will go ahead and install, even 
 without the OK from the user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if 
 so.  Spoken as a long-term customer, who started using Applegear in 1984.
 
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changing email

2013-10-02 Thread Tess
Hello,

I tried to send an email to owner, but it got rejected.

Does anyone know a direct email I could send to to change my email?

Had to get a new internet provider, and they gave me all new email info.

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Hiding Apps In ITunes Purchase History

2013-10-02 Thread Robin Frost
Hi,
Every once in a while reported issues do get fixed.  It might have taken 9 
months but Apple has once again made it possible to go into your purchase 
history of apps via ITunes on the PC and mac and hide those which you don’t 
wish to see any more.  Speaking for the PC side of things using ITunes 11.1 and 
Jaws For Windows 15 beta the process was completely accessible and did work.  
For the first few apps I hid I got a confirmation dialog asking me if I was 
sure I wanted to hide but after a while it stopped asking me and just hid the 
apps.  As for what precipitated that change I couldn’t tell nor could the 
person assisting me.
While I’m glad to report that this functionality has been restored I’ll miss my 
monthly status updates with Landry formerly of the accessibility group who kept 
in touch regarding this issue even after his transfer to a new department.  His 
attention to detail throughout this process was customer service done right and 
I assure you I’ll convey that to Apple as well.
Happy hiding apps one and all.
Robin

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RE: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

2013-10-02 Thread Louise Redsull
Hi,
I've had this happen to me too and when the phone has been nowhere near me
so I know I haven't caught the lock button. I look and there's no
notifications either.

Louise.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: 02 October 2013 1:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

Mine happens when I am working, doing nothing with music audible of any kind
and not touching any buttons.  It just will occasionally say screen locked
and I have not been playing any audio on the phone since the last time I
turned it on, which generally is every morning.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:10 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

Hi,

It only happens when playing audio content when you change the volume.  For
some reason, Voiceover thinks the screen is unlocked when you do this so,
after a minute or so, it will say screen locked.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have this happen when playing any audio content.
 
 -Original Message- From: Kimber Gardner
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked
 
 I'v had the same thing happen on my 4s running ios7.
 
 On 10/1/13, SSEric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just hear screen lock, without having heard any incoming mail, 
 message, etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including 
 alarms, reminders, etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some 
 correlating event. This seems to occur once or twice a day since the
seven update.
 
 Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 
 on Verizon, 16 GB black model.
 
 Thanks for any thoughts.
 
 Eric
 
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RE: Questions re Bard Mobile

2013-10-02 Thread Geoff Stephens
Dani -
Sometimes people get into such a hurry that they don't accurately answer a
question.

The setting for the use of mobile data is not relevant to your situation.
Yes, you will still be able to use the app whihle away from your data
connection.


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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions re Bard Mobile

No, in the user settings you can change it to use mobile. this means it'll
use cellular data when you don't have a wifi connection available.

On 10/02/2013 07:14 AM, Dani L Pagador wrote:
 Hi, Everyone.

 I've got an iPod 4th gen, and don't have a data plan or hot spot thingy.
 Do I need either of these to use Bard Mobile when I'm on the go i.e., 
 not where my modem and router are?

 Thanks,

 Dani

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Re: Gmail access issue on 5s

2013-10-02 Thread Sachin Pavithran
Thanks Robin, I got it working fine. Wish we had the same option that we had 
with the exchange where it is able to push other then have to wait every 15 
minutes for it to go pull the emails down.

Sachin Pavithran
Send from my iPhone

 On Oct 2, 2013, at 4:42 AM, Robin Christopherson 
 robin.christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sachin
 Just to say that I had this exact same issue when setting up my 5S yesterday 
 and I had to delete the Exchange account and set it up using the Gmail option 
 instead and now it seems to be working just fine.
 Thanks, Robin.
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RE: Siri's performance in IOS7

2013-10-02 Thread Neal Ewers
For me, what I get from Siri with VoiceOver on or not on seems to be quite
random. I can ask it the same question with and without VoiceOver and there
doesn't seem to be a difference. The difference is the time of day when I
ask the question, and this depends on a lot of things. Sometimes when I ask
for temperature, I will hear the temperature in madison is X. Sometimes, I
will simply hear the temperature. So the answer to the same question can
change and it seems, at least for me, that it is not voiceover specific.

Neal


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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri's performance in IOS7

Hi Chris and others,

I have seen a lot of people reporting that apparently for them SIRI works
better if Voiceover is turned off. While SIRI sometimes tells me it can't
take a request or do something, usually it works as it should when it does
things.

Anyhow, I was wondering if anybody has actually taken the time to document
this behavior in detail and submitted it to accessibil...@apple.com which
should be the first thing that comes to mind if something doesn't work and
seems to be so because of Voiceover.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris H
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 12:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri's performance in IOS7

Thanks.
i know what might have happened.
if i turn VoiceOver off Siri works well and all the way through.
but if i turn VoiceOver on Siri works part way through then die.


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
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On 01/10/2013 17:50, Eric Whitten wrote:
 Siri works better then it did on Ios6. I have a 4s

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all
 when i asked where the nearest mcdonalds was, all was well until i 
 asked
to give me directions. then it stopped dead so had to lock the screen. any
ideas?

 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com

 On 01/10/2013 15:53, Brian Moore wrote:
 yeah, having some of the same issues. sometimes I get feedback and 
 sometimes I don't.

 maybe this is a 4s thing but it seemed to work better before the 7.02 
 upgrade.
 Brian.

 Contact me on skype: brian.moore
 follow me on twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

 On 01/10/2013 10:27 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:
 Well, I'll add in my $.02, as i'm checking e-mail anyway and often 
 feel I need to jump in LOL.

 I, too, have been experiencing problems with siri's responsiveness. 
 I am quite the loose-leaf tea addict, so have to set fairly specific 
 timers for my tea to brew. When using IOS6, I could simply say 
 siri, please set my timer for four minutes and thirty seconds and 
 she would do it instantly. ever since upgrading, I'll ask siri to 
 perform the same task (politely of course, because I'm a Canadian 
 and that's how we roll), and then i'm usually met by a stoney 
 silence. I follow that up by frantically swiping around the screen, 
 and after a bit more silence, will hear things like things you can 
 tell me. Ask Where's Brian? and not only do I not know Brian, I 
 honestly couldn't give two flying you know what's about where he is 
 at the moment. While this very uninspiring exchange is taking place 
 between siri and myself, my tea is sitting there steeping 
 confusedly, and then I just manually set a timer and try to account for
the fight I just had with siri.

 What gives?
 Shermeen


 On 9/30/13, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 My coworker and driver got a 5C Saturday, Siri was very responsive 
 compared to my 4S.  It did have to think a couple of times when she 
 asked it a question, or used an unacceptable word after it told her 
 it could not add a contact to her address book.

 It was amazing even my Husband's 5 seems slower than her phone but 
 then she has no apps but the ones supplied, only had it less than 
 24 hours and had no clue about apps.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:25 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Re: Siri's performance in IOS7

 Hi,

 This isn't true 100% of the time.  If I tell Siri Tell Mary I will
give
 her
 a call in an hour.  At least for me, most of the time the message 
 is read back.  The times when it isn't, its because VO interrupts 
 it for some reason.  In this case, I place my finger on the screen, 
 and flick to
the
 edit field and VO reads the message.  I find the error rate to be 
 on
par
 with that found in IOS 6,  Maybe a little bit better.  But that 
 isn't were Siri is really giving people a lot of headaches though.  
 Its Siri actually processing your requests.  This failure rate is 
 way up in IOS 7.  I would say its near the levels when it 

Re: Questions re Bard Mobile

2013-10-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Ah, thanks for catching this and correcting me. I obviously missed this. 
Sorry for the incorrect information and any confusion it caused.


On 10/02/2013 08:55 AM, Thom Spittle wrote:

He said that he had an iPod. So, no, there is no way to use it when you
don't have an internet connection.
When I say use it that means download books. You can still listen to the
content that you have already put on the device.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions re Bard Mobile

No, in the user settings you can change it to use mobile. this means it'll

use

cellular data when you don't have a wifi connection available.

On 10/02/2013 07:14 AM, Dani L Pagador wrote:

Hi, Everyone.

I've got an iPod 4th gen, and don't have a data plan or hot spot thingy.
Do I need either of these to use Bard Mobile when I'm on the go i.e.,
not where my modem and router are?

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Chris H
Agreed. Apps took under five seconds to load on a 4, but under two on a 
4s. So over half the time is cut between each phone.


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On 02/10/2013 13:47, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Apps are taking up to 50 seconds to start running? Hmm, that sounds like
you need to restore and start over. Even if iOS runs slower on older
phones, apps won't take 50 seconds to start up. i just can't buy that.

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On 9/30/2013 10:25 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Yes, IOs 7  is good running on new devices like iPhone 4s, 5 and 5s, but
this new IOs make slower the iPhone 4, and is very annoying try to run
what ever app when voice over works so slow, when what ever app takes
until 50 seconds to start opening, and when we have to try and try
several times to run an app. Is obvious that IOs 7 is heavy for the
processor that the iPhone 4 has, so make an update of operated system
will be good for the users who has iDevices with processors relative
new, but not every body is in position of go to buy an iPhone 5s, or pay
around 800$ every years when ever apple create an new device. We are
customers, and customers of apple doesn't mean richness.
Is a lot of people who had to make a very hard effort to buy an iPhone,
so why apple is trying to make those devices slower, and push them to
buy new devices with faster processors to run what ever IOs apple wants?
We are the owners of our iDevices, we are not renting those devices, so
if I paid for that device, why apple has rights on my property?





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Re: Siri and relationships, how to use?

2013-10-02 Thread Chris H

Oh ok will try this. Cheers!

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On 02/10/2013 12:58, Thom Spittle wrote:

I don't think that it can identify older or younger siblings, just sister.
Then I would assume he will ask which sister you would like to call, text,
or email.
It works for my mother and sister, but since I only have one of each, I'm
not in the same boat as you

Tell siri that Susan is my sister, it will take you from there.

HTH
Thom

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Good morning all.
How exactly do I use the relationships feature of Siri?
I'm asking this as I asked Siri to text my eldest sister. He then asked

who he

should send the message to and that he needs a name, e-mail or phone
number. However he knows who my eldest sister is and she is in my
contacts. I tried asking him to text my youngest sister but the same
happened. He also knows who my father is but not tried that yet.
Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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