Re: iTunes gift card deals, anyone?

2014-12-25 Thread Gmail
Good God! You're a jerk! Just because someone wants a good deal, does not mean 
that they are in debt. Furthermore, it is not up to you whether they are or 
they aren't. Other people's spending habits aren't your prerogative to judge.


Ari


 On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:19 PM, shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not for you, no. Pay back the debts you owe and then maybe you won't
 be concerned about 'finding' money to pay for apps that are apparently
 too expensive for you. Good luck with your future.
 
 On 12/23/14, Eden Kizer eden...@centurylink.net wrote:
 Well, since the KNFB Reader is on sale, I was also hoping to find an
 ITunes gift card to make this purchase even lower.  I think I am out of
 luck but thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.
 
 Eden
 
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Re: iTunes gift card deals, anyone?

2014-12-25 Thread Gmail
I just search for 20% off iTunes gift codes on PayPal U.S.A. Unfortunately, 
from what I could see,, the 20% off ones were sold out.

Thanks,
Ari


 On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:59 PM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 How did you find, get and use that?
 
 I could do with something like this to go get KNFB  reader we all keep going 
 on about, make real use of the newish 5S I had a couple of months back.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Colin Matthews velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:27 PM
 Subject: Re: iTunes gift card deals, anyone?
 
 
 Hi!
 If you do have a Paypal account see if there is a 20% off deal under Paypal 
 I got a £50 iTunes card for only £40 from the UK one maybe other countries 
 Paypal’s might have good deals as well!
 Here’s the UK link:
 
 https://www.paypal-gifts.com/uk/specialoffers/itunes-promotion.html
 
 Colin
 
 On 23 Dec 2014, at 21:32, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I found the following link by Googling iTunes gift cards discounts:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-Off-iTunes-Codes-Email-Delivery/261707061570?pt=U
 S_Deal_Vouchershash=item3ceef4d942
 
 That takes you to an eBay offer for 15% off iTunes digital cards where the
 code is delivered via email. I'm not sure but I think you might have to 
 have
 a PayPal account to purchase these.
 
 Here is a TinyURL to the same offer since the first link above is two 
 lines
 long and will no doubt break when this plain text email arrives:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/p3yhu3n
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Eden Kizer
 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:30 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: iTunes gift card deals, anyone?
 
 Well, since the KNFB Reader is on sale, I was also hoping to find an
 iTunes gift card to make this purchase even lower.  I think I am out of
 luck but thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.
 
 Eden
 
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Re: Playing YouTube Videos

2014-12-25 Thread Gmail
That's good to hear about. Google kind of has a bad track record in terms of 
making their iOS apps completely accessible. What do you like better about the 
official YouTube app over YouPlayer, now that Google has improved the 
accessibility of the official YouTube app?


Thanks,
Ari


 On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 YouPlayer is also a pretty accessible iOS app for YouTube. However, the 
 official YouTube app has gotten a  lot better with accessibility and I rarely 
 use YouPlayer at this point, but it is still there.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Joseph Hudson
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Playing YouTube Videos
  
 I, just download the application that says YouTube and that show a late plate 
 YouTube videos. I hope this helps.
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
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 Hello friends,
  
 Does anyone know exactly what I need to download from the app store to be 
 able to play YouTube videos?
 I searched for YouTube and it came up with multiple items?
  
 
 
 
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RE: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Jim Ruby
I was going to place an order, but the price was more then $30.00 with
everything it came to 33.95, $6.00 for shipping making a total of $39.95.
was there a coupon code or something to enter at checkout? No, not in debt
nore cheap, just like to spend my money wisely.

 

Thanks.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:01 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: The ScanJig

 

OK, I now have seen what I consider the Cadillac of stands.

 

I got the ScanJig at work Monday.  I used KNFB Reader to scan the setup
instructions, free-hand, and was able to figure out the pieces and put it
together.

I enjoy puzzles, so it was fun putting it together.  It didn't take more
than about 5 or 10 minutes to figure it out without sighted help.

There are pictures of the pieces, so a sighted person could probably do it
in 2.

 

The ScanJig costs $30.00.

It is made from hard plastic.  It is a bit thicker than the other stands but
it looks way more durable.

It folds up into a box 13 by 9 and 1.5 inches thick.  

The beauty of the ScanJig is that it can hold anything from a smart phone to
a tablet.

It holds both the document and the device at an angle so there is less
likelihood of casting a shadow over the document and it can capture the
maximum of the room light or use the flash.  There are no lights needed on
the device itself.

 

There is a movable Device Holder that snaps into one of four slots at
various distances from the Document Shelf.  On the Device Holder, is a
little shelf that snaps in to hold the phone or tablet.  There are 10
adjustment holes so you can get the optimum height of the device pointing at
the document.

I found with both the iPhone 5s and the 6, that the first slot, which is
11.5 inches from the document was the best position.  I also found that if I
put the shelf on the device holder in the second hole from the top, I can
get the entire document even if it has narrow margins.

There are some stick on pieces to help hold your device in place once you
get the position where you want it.

There are also two clips that can hold a document on the document shelf, for
example, a tri-fold letter that wants to curl, you can clip it in place so
it holds it steady.

 

It is definitely more bulky when folded up than either the Giraffe Reader or
the StandScan, but the fact that it will also hold a tablet from a full iPad
to an iPad Mini or any smart phone I think gives it a big edge.  Not to
mention it is made out of much stronger material and at a great price.

 

I'm going to paste the setup instructions below and also the link to their
web site.

 

www.scanjig.com

 

Note: I added the focal distances to the setup instructions below.

 

ScanJig Set-up Instructions

 


Product Description:  


The ScanJig is designed for easy tactile positioning of both a
smart device and documents for correct focus,  alignment and field of view.


Once set up - the stand holds smart phones or tablets in a
vertical portrait orientation and at an angle where the  device's touch
screen interface is facing the user. The stand can also hold a document, in
the same vertical  portrait orientation, and angle, directly behind the
smart phone or tablet.  

The device holder can be adjusted to position your device's rear
lens to point directly at the center of the  document.  

Once the device is positioned in the optimum location, stops can
be applied to lock in this position. Then your  phone or tablet can easily
be placed in the same spot for each use.  

The product's open design takes advantage of ambient light and
helps avoid shadows. Further the device flash is  completely unobstructed if
this feature is needed.  

 


What is stored inside the ScanJig  


*   1 - Smart Device Holder and Device Shelf - the device will sit
on the shelf.  

*   2 - Document Clips - to better hold creased documents or small
items.  

*   4 - Peal and Stick Device Stops - after your mobile device is
positioned the stops help hold it in place and  provide an easy way to
quickly use the same position again.  

*   2 - Thin peal and stick spacers - if needed, these can be placed
under your device for fine adjustment.  

 


Initial Set-Up  


 

1 Lift up on the latch at the front end of the ScanJig and open the cover
all the way until it stops. The inside of  the cover is the Document Bed
with a shelf on the bottom and a fence on the right. Place a document on the
shelf and against the fence.  

 

2   Positioning your device camera for a full screen view of the document.  

 

This initial set-up is done once, the optimum device position is
then preserved by applying the peal and stick  stops for subsequent uses.  

Reach inside the ScanJig tray and lift the Device Holder up and
out of the storage clips. Slide the Device Holder  into one of 

Re: Playing YouTube Videos

2014-12-25 Thread ram kalia
you can save some videos offlline they have introduced  the offline
button on the video page

On 12/25/14, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's good to hear about. Google kind of has a bad track record in terms of
 making their iOS apps completely accessible. What do you like better about
 the official YouTube app over YouPlayer, now that Google has improved the
 accessibility of the official YouTube app?


 Thanks,
 Ari


 On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:

 YouPlayer is also a pretty accessible iOS app for YouTube. However, the
 official YouTube app has gotten a  lot better with accessibility and I
 rarely use YouPlayer at this point, but it is still there.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joseph Hudson
 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:31 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Playing YouTube Videos

 I, just download the application that says YouTube and that show a late
 plate YouTube videos. I hope this helps.
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote:

 Hello friends,

 Does anyone know exactly what I need to download from the app store to be
 able to play YouTube videos?
 I searched for YouTube and it came up with multiple items?


 

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Re: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Richard Turner
I'm waiting for confirmation from ScanJig, but I believe I gave the wrong 
price. I went by memory from reading the review in AccessWorld from last year; 
that was a mistake. Also, this model is a newer model than the one they 
reviewed. I think the correct price is $39.95. The price I remembered was a 
sale price referenced in the AccessWorld article. 
I should have double checked the price with ScanJig before sending out my 
review. 
However, even if it is indeed $39.95, and it probably is, it is still well 
worth it.
I am also sure there is a refund policy, which I will also check out and post 
corrected information as soon as I have it.
If you are wondering how I could possibly have not known the price, it is 
because they sent me one to evaluate because I am the Training Center Director 
at a Commission for the Blind. 
The guy from StandScan also sent our agency a a couple free StandScans. The 
original model, and then the one out of the more improved material.
Also, the Giraffe Reader was sold to me at half price.
So, now that I have evaluated all three stands, if one can deal with the larger 
size of the ScanJig when transporting it, I still say it is hands-down the best 
stand and the most versatile.
Sorry for the confusion, but once I hear from the ScanJig folks, I will post 
corrected information. But, it does look like the regular price will be $39.95.
Richard


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 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Jim Ruby j...@blindsea.com wrote:
 
 I was going to place an order, but the price was more then $30.00 with
 everything it came to 33.95, $6.00 for shipping making a total of $39.95.
 was there a coupon code or something to enter at checkout? No, not in debt
 nore cheap, just like to spend my money wisely.
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:01 PM
 To: ViPone list
 Subject: The ScanJig
 
 
 
 OK, I now have seen what I consider the Cadillac of stands.
 
 
 
 I got the ScanJig at work Monday.  I used KNFB Reader to scan the setup
 instructions, free-hand, and was able to figure out the pieces and put it
 together.
 
 I enjoy puzzles, so it was fun putting it together.  It didn't take more
 than about 5 or 10 minutes to figure it out without sighted help.
 
 There are pictures of the pieces, so a sighted person could probably do it
 in 2.
 
 
 
 The ScanJig costs $30.00.
 
 It is made from hard plastic.  It is a bit thicker than the other stands but
 it looks way more durable.
 
 It folds up into a box 13 by 9 and 1.5 inches thick.  
 
 The beauty of the ScanJig is that it can hold anything from a smart phone to
 a tablet.
 
 It holds both the document and the device at an angle so there is less
 likelihood of casting a shadow over the document and it can capture the
 maximum of the room light or use the flash.  There are no lights needed on
 the device itself.
 
 
 
 There is a movable Device Holder that snaps into one of four slots at
 various distances from the Document Shelf.  On the Device Holder, is a
 little shelf that snaps in to hold the phone or tablet.  There are 10
 adjustment holes so you can get the optimum height of the device pointing at
 the document.
 
 I found with both the iPhone 5s and the 6, that the first slot, which is
 11.5 inches from the document was the best position.  I also found that if I
 put the shelf on the device holder in the second hole from the top, I can
 get the entire document even if it has narrow margins.
 
 There are some stick on pieces to help hold your device in place once you
 get the position where you want it.
 
 There are also two clips that can hold a document on the document shelf, for
 example, a tri-fold letter that wants to curl, you can clip it in place so
 it holds it steady.
 
 
 
 It is definitely more bulky when folded up than either the Giraffe Reader or
 the StandScan, but the fact that it will also hold a tablet from a full iPad
 to an iPad Mini or any smart phone I think gives it a big edge.  Not to
 mention it is made out of much stronger material and at a great price.
 
 
 
 I'm going to paste the setup instructions below and also the link to their
 web site.
 
 
 
 www.scanjig.com
 
 
 
 Note: I added the focal distances to the setup instructions below.
 
 
 
 ScanJig Set-up Instructions
 
 
 
 
 Product Description:  
 
 
The ScanJig is designed for easy tactile positioning of both a
 smart device and documents for correct focus,  alignment and field of view.
 
 
Once set up - the stand holds smart phones or tablets in a
 vertical portrait orientation and at an angle where the  device's touch
 screen interface is facing the user. The stand can also hold a document, in
 the same vertical  portrait orientation, and angle, directly 

Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Michelle Bernstein
The default voice on the Voice Dream app is the Heather voice.
Does anyone know if the Heather voice is the same voice that is
used when you download Bookshare books in audio format?  Thank you. Michelle

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unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread ram kalia
Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

I would be able to gift you a £25 iTunes gift card, but there would be
a £30 administration fee to cover the time taken to send you the
information. If this is acceptable please email me off list  I will
organize the gift ASAP.

Cheers,
Ben.

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 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
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 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
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the beauty of the iPhone

2014-12-25 Thread Deidre Muccio
I'm not talking about the slender silky way the phone fits into your
hand... I've been listening to back shows of Fresh Air and other things and
it's just wonderful how easy it is to access programs/shows. Through Tune-In
Radio. It's instantaneous once you find the station or programs you want to
sample. I find using the phone for this sort of thing works far better than
my computer, IE and Jaws ever could. Happy holidays everyone. 

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Re: Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Alex Hall
I only downloaded one audio book from Bookshare, and this was a year or so ago. 
When I did, though, it used Kendra, from Ivona, not Heather from A Capella. 
Again, things may have changed now.
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Re: Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Michelle Bernstein
Thank you Alex. Is Kendra the same voice that is used for the audio 
downloads on Bookshare-
this is the voice that I prefer.  Michelle
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO 
it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would I 
have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it. 


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 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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RE: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Jim Ruby
Thank you, just wanted to be sure I was getting the right product for the right 
priceJ.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The ScanJig

 

I'm waiting for confirmation from ScanJig, but I believe I gave the wrong 
price. I went by memory from reading the review in AccessWorld from last year; 
that was a mistake. Also, this model is a newer model than the one they 
reviewed. I think the correct price is $39.95. The price I remembered was a 
sale price referenced in the AccessWorld article. 

I should have double checked the price with ScanJig before sending out my 
review. 

However, even if it is indeed $39.95, and it probably is, it is still well 
worth it.

I am also sure there is a refund policy, which I will also check out and post 
corrected information as soon as I have it.

If you are wondering how I could possibly have not known the price, it is 
because they sent me one to evaluate because I am the Training Center Director 
at a Commission for the Blind. 

The guy from StandScan also sent our agency a a couple free StandScans. The 
original model, and then the one out of the more improved material.

Also, the Giraffe Reader was sold to me at half price.

So, now that I have evaluated all three stands, if one can deal with the larger 
size of the ScanJig when transporting it, I still say it is hands-down the best 
stand and the most versatile.

Sorry for the confusion, but once I hear from the ScanJig folks, I will post 
corrected information. But, it does look like the regular price will be $39.95.

Richard

 

 

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Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Jim Ruby j...@blindsea.com wrote:

I was going to place an order, but the price was more then $30.00 with
everything it came to 33.95, $6.00 for shipping making a total of $39.95.
was there a coupon code or something to enter at checkout? No, not in debt
nore cheap, just like to spend my money wisely.



Thanks.





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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:01 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: The ScanJig



OK, I now have seen what I consider the Cadillac of stands.



I got the ScanJig at work Monday.  I used KNFB Reader to scan the setup
instructions, free-hand, and was able to figure out the pieces and put it
together.

I enjoy puzzles, so it was fun putting it together.  It didn't take more
than about 5 or 10 minutes to figure it out without sighted help.

There are pictures of the pieces, so a sighted person could probably do it
in 2.



The ScanJig costs $30.00.

It is made from hard plastic.  It is a bit thicker than the other stands but
it looks way more durable.

It folds up into a box 13 by 9 and 1.5 inches thick.  

The beauty of the ScanJig is that it can hold anything from a smart phone to
a tablet.

It holds both the document and the device at an angle so there is less
likelihood of casting a shadow over the document and it can capture the
maximum of the room light or use the flash.  There are no lights needed on
the device itself.



There is a movable Device Holder that snaps into one of four slots at
various distances from the Document Shelf.  On the Device Holder, is a
little shelf that snaps in to hold the phone or tablet.  There are 10
adjustment holes so you can get the optimum height of the device pointing at
the document.

I found with both the iPhone 5s and the 6, that the first slot, which is
11.5 inches from the document was the best position.  I also found that if I
put the shelf on the device holder in the second hole from the top, I can
get the entire document even if it has narrow margins.

There are some stick on pieces to help hold your device in place once you
get the position where you want it.

There are also two clips that can hold a document on the document shelf, for
example, a tri-fold letter that wants to curl, you can clip it in place so
it holds it steady.



It is definitely more bulky when folded up than either the Giraffe Reader or
the StandScan, but the fact that it will also hold a tablet from a full iPad
to an iPad Mini or any smart phone I think gives it a big edge.  Not to
mention it is made out of much stronger material and at a great price.



I'm going to paste the setup instructions below and also the link to their
web site.



www.scanjig.com



Note: I added the focal distances to the setup instructions below.



ScanJig Set-up Instructions




Product Description:  


   The ScanJig is designed for easy tactile positioning of both a
smart device and documents for correct focus,  alignment and field of view.


   Once set up - the stand holds smart phones or tablets in a
vertical portrait 

Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Corey Cook
If u need it work for it

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO 
 it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would I 
 have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it. 
 
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:50 AM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Re: the beauty of the iPhone

2014-12-25 Thread Corey Cook
I completely agree

Sent from my iPhone

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I'm not talking about the slender silky way the phone fits into your
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Charles Rivard

You forgot the shipping and handling and the tax!!

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gift me please!



Hi,

I would be able to gift you a £25 iTunes gift card, but there would be
a £30 administration fee to cover the time taken to send you the
information. If this is acceptable please email me off list  I will
organize the gift ASAP.

Cheers,
Ben.

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Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Charles Rivard

I would, but only in pure jest.

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gift me please!



I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO 
it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would 
I have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it.




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Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
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gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
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Re: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi.
What is this product? And, how does it differ from the stand scan pro? Thanks 
for any information anyone can give. And, Merry Christmas!

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jim Ruby j...@blindsea.com wrote:
 
 Thank you, just wanted to be sure I was getting the right product for the 
 right priceJ.
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Richard Turner
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: The ScanJig
  
 I'm waiting for confirmation from ScanJig, but I believe I gave the wrong 
 price. I went by memory from reading the review in AccessWorld from last 
 year; that was a mistake. Also, this model is a newer model than the one they 
 reviewed. I think the correct price is $39.95. The price I remembered was a 
 sale price referenced in the AccessWorld article. 
 I should have double checked the price with ScanJig before sending out my 
 review. 
 However, even if it is indeed $39.95, and it probably is, it is still well 
 worth it.
 I am also sure there is a refund policy, which I will also check out and post 
 corrected information as soon as I have it.
 If you are wondering how I could possibly have not known the price, it is 
 because they sent me one to evaluate because I am the Training Center 
 Director at a Commission for the Blind. 
 The guy from StandScan also sent our agency a a couple free StandScans. The 
 original model, and then the one out of the more improved material.
 Also, the Giraffe Reader was sold to me at half price.
 So, now that I have evaluated all three stands, if one can deal with the 
 larger size of the ScanJig when transporting it, I still say it is hands-down 
 the best stand and the most versatile.
 Sorry for the confusion, but once I hear from the ScanJig folks, I will post 
 corrected information. But, it does look like the regular price will be 
 $39.95.
 Richard
  
  
 Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
 
 Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
  
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5S
 
  
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Jim Ruby j...@blindsea.com wrote:
 
 I was going to place an order, but the price was more then $30.00 with
 everything it came to 33.95, $6.00 for shipping making a total of $39.95.
 was there a coupon code or something to enter at checkout? No, not in debt
 nore cheap, just like to spend my money wisely.
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:01 PM
 To: ViPone list
 Subject: The ScanJig
 
 
 
 OK, I now have seen what I consider the Cadillac of stands.
 
 
 
 I got the ScanJig at work Monday.  I used KNFB Reader to scan the setup
 instructions, free-hand, and was able to figure out the pieces and put it
 together.
 
 I enjoy puzzles, so it was fun putting it together.  It didn't take more
 than about 5 or 10 minutes to figure it out without sighted help.
 
 There are pictures of the pieces, so a sighted person could probably do it
 in 2.
 
 
 
 The ScanJig costs $30.00.
 
 It is made from hard plastic.  It is a bit thicker than the other stands but
 it looks way more durable.
 
 It folds up into a box 13 by 9 and 1.5 inches thick.  
 
 The beauty of the ScanJig is that it can hold anything from a smart phone to
 a tablet.
 
 It holds both the document and the device at an angle so there is less
 likelihood of casting a shadow over the document and it can capture the
 maximum of the room light or use the flash.  There are no lights needed on
 the device itself.
 
 
 
 There is a movable Device Holder that snaps into one of four slots at
 various distances from the Document Shelf.  On the Device Holder, is a
 little shelf that snaps in to hold the phone or tablet.  There are 10
 adjustment holes so you can get the optimum height of the device pointing at
 the document.
 
 I found with both the iPhone 5s and the 6, that the first slot, which is
 11.5 inches from the document was the best position.  I also found that if I
 put the shelf on the device holder in the second hole from the top, I can
 get the entire document even if it has narrow margins.
 
 There are some stick on pieces to help hold your device in place once you
 get the position where you want it.
 
 There are also two clips that can hold a document on the document shelf, for
 example, a tri-fold letter that wants to curl, you can clip it in place so
 it holds it steady.
 
 
 
 It is definitely more bulky when folded up than either the Giraffe Reader or
 the StandScan, but the fact that it will also hold a tablet from a full iPad
 to an iPad Mini or any smart phone I think gives it a big edge.  Not to
 mention it is made out of much stronger material and at a great price.
 
 
 
 I'm going to paste the setup instructions below and also the link to their
 web site.
 
 
 
 www.scanjig.com
 
 
 
 

RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Merv Keck
Hi,

I want a Hippopotamus for Christmas? Anyone gifting those?

Merv

 

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread RobH.
I got a hippy Potty mouse, will that do?

R, H.
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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 5:21 PM
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gift me please!


Hi,

I want a Hippopotamus for Christmas? Anyone gifting those?

Merv



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RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Terrie Terlau
Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I don't  
think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh things to 
say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask for a gift 
like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside of our own 
United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the name and the 
English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native English speaker and 
may be from another country and another culture where asking for gifts from 
strangers may not have the bad connotations that it does in the States. Also, 
in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending 
on how you figure the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have 
not had the opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the 
skill set  that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would 
like to explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but 
that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would 
also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and 
sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope 
that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a 
list change our tone of responses.

I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the info 
and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a part of a 
supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
perspectives,
Terrie Terlau

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ram kalia
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me 
please!

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Patti Johnson
Ditto, Terrie!  I mean, what is this day all about but to show 
compassion and kindness to our fellow human beings, not to get smart 
alecky and snide to some one that in truth may come from a place where 
he doesn't have all the resources we all do.

Drop the sarcasm, please! It's just not right.  Especially not today.
Patti
On 12/25/2014 12:50 PM, Terrie Terlau wrote:

Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I don't  
think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh things to 
say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask for a gift 
like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside of our own 
United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the name and the 
English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native English speaker and 
may be from another country and another culture where asking for gifts from 
strangers may not have the bad connotations that it does in the States. Also, 
in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending 
on how you figure the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have 
not had the opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the 
skill set  that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would 
like to explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but 
that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would 
also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and 
sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope 
that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a 
list change our tone of responses.

I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the info 
and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a part of a 
supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
perspectives,
Terrie Terlau

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
ram kalia
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me 
please!

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift




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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Eileen Misrahi
THANKS Terry for your post. I was taken back when I read the posts, 
especialally on a holiday such as Christmas. All of the religious holidays 
being celebrated during this time of year always express joy, harmony, and 
peace, whichever holiday one observes. I'm wondering where the old saying of 
Do on to others that you want others to do to you has gone. Thanks for 
listening and have a wonderful holiday season to all.

Best,
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 
 I would, but only in pure jest.
 
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 you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message - From: alia robinson ali...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:45 AM
 Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
 gift me please!
 
 
 I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO 
 it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would I 
 have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it.
 
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:50 AM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
I don’t celebrate this day as some don’t, and if we let one person ask for 
money/gifts then everyone should be able, so hey throw some my way! personally 
I have no interest in a list like that. I come here for help/advice, period.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Patti Johnson pattigj1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ditto, Terrie!  I mean, what is this day all about but to show compassion and 
 kindness to our fellow human beings, not to get smart alecky and snide to 
 some one that in truth may come from a place where he doesn't have all the 
 resources we all do.
 Drop the sarcasm, please! It's just not right.  Especially not today.

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RE: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi jennifer,

 

Richard describes it quite well in his initial post, just read to the bottom of 
the thread and you’ll find it. I won’t repeat it since it’s right here in this 
thread.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jenifer Barr
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The ScanJig

 

Hi.

What is this product? And, how does it differ from the stand scan pro? Thanks 
for any information anyone can give. And, Merry Christmas!


Jenifer Barr

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jim Ruby j...@blindsea.com 
mailto:j...@blindsea.com  wrote:

Thank you, just wanted to be sure I was getting the right product for the right 
price:).

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: The ScanJig

 

I'm waiting for confirmation from ScanJig, but I believe I gave the wrong 
price. I went by memory from reading the review in AccessWorld from last year; 
that was a mistake. Also, this model is a newer model than the one they 
reviewed. I think the correct price is $39.95. The price I remembered was a 
sale price referenced in the AccessWorld article. 

I should have double checked the price with ScanJig before sending out my 
review. 

However, even if it is indeed $39.95, and it probably is, it is still well 
worth it.

I am also sure there is a refund policy, which I will also check out and post 
corrected information as soon as I have it.

If you are wondering how I could possibly have not known the price, it is 
because they sent me one to evaluate because I am the Training Center Director 
at a Commission for the Blind. 

The guy from StandScan also sent our agency a a couple free StandScans. The 
original model, and then the one out of the more improved material.

Also, the Giraffe Reader was sold to me at half price.

So, now that I have evaluated all three stands, if one can deal with the larger 
size of the ScanJig when transporting it, I still say it is hands-down the best 
stand and the most versatile.

Sorry for the confusion, but once I hear from the ScanJig folks, I will post 
corrected information. But, it does look like the regular price will be $39.95.

Richard

 

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Jim Ruby j...@blindsea.com 
mailto:j...@blindsea.com  wrote:

I was going to place an order, but the price was more then $30.00 with
everything it came to 33.95, $6.00 for shipping making a total of $39.95.
was there a coupon code or something to enter at checkout? No, not in debt
nore cheap, just like to spend my money wisely.



Thanks.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:01 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: The ScanJig



OK, I now have seen what I consider the Cadillac of stands.



I got the ScanJig at work Monday.  I used KNFB Reader to scan the setup
instructions, free-hand, and was able to figure out the pieces and put it
together.

I enjoy puzzles, so it was fun putting it together.  It didn't take more
than about 5 or 10 minutes to figure it out without sighted help.

There are pictures of the pieces, so a sighted person could probably do it
in 2.



The ScanJig costs $30.00.

It is made from hard plastic.  It is a bit thicker than the other stands but
it looks way more durable.

It folds up into a box 13 by 9 and 1.5 inches thick.  

The beauty of the ScanJig is that it can hold anything from a smart phone to
a tablet.

It holds both the document and the device at an angle so there is less
likelihood of casting a shadow over the document and it can capture the
maximum of the room light or use the flash.  There are no lights needed on
the device itself.



There is a movable Device Holder that snaps into one of four slots at
various distances from the Document Shelf.  On the Device Holder, is a
little shelf that snaps in to hold the phone or tablet.  There are 10
adjustment holes so you can get the optimum height of the device pointing at
the document.

I found with both the iPhone 5s and the 6, that the first slot, which is
11.5 inches from the document was the best position.  I also found that if I
put the shelf on the device holder in the second hole from the top, I can
get the entire document even if it has narrow margins.

There are some stick on pieces to help hold your device in place once you
get the position where you want it.

There are also two clips that can hold a document on the document shelf, for
example, a tri-fold letter that wants to curl, you can clip it in place so
it holds it 

RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kamal Haffar
Well said Terrie, thanks for speaking on behalf of many folks  on this list.


I couldn't  and maybe the responses could be  in the spirit of the 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terrie Terlau
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift 
me please!

Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I don't  
think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh things to 
say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask for a gift 
like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside of our own 
United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the name and the 
English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native English speaker and 
may be from another country and another culture where asking for gifts from 
strangers may not have the bad connotations that it does in the States. Also, 
in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending 
on how you figure the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have 
not had the opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the 
skill set  that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would 
like to explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but 
that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would 
also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and 
sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope 
that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a 
list change our tone of responses.

I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the info 
and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a part of a 
supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
perspectives, Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
ram kalia
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me 
please!

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to purchase the 
same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Terrie,

Beautifully said and if you hadn't done so I was going to do so myself, now I 
will just support you and add a few thoughts.
I agree that asking for this is not OK, but being married to a Filipina and 
having travelled to several east Asian third-world countries I have seen what 
not having anything means. Some of the blind folk on here who don't have work 
and are on a very tight budget may think they are not so well off, but I can 
assure them that their situation is nothing compared to that of half the 
population of the planet. I know it doesn't mean anything to make these 
comparisons, but given the several very ungraceful replies I thought maybe a 
reminder of how good we have it living in free countries like the US, Canada, 
England and so on.
Given it's Christmas today I really wonder about the sarcasm in many of these 
messages and it was probably expressed by people (at least some of them) who 
may consider themselves Christians. If you do call yourself that and if you 
have replied to that, maybe you need to examine your values.


Best regards,
Sieghard 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terrie Terlau
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift 
me please!

Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I don't  
think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh things to 
say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask for a gift 
like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside of our own 
United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the name and the 
English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native English speaker and 
may be from another country and another culture where asking for gifts from 
strangers may not have the bad connotations that it does in the States. Also, 
in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending 
on how you figure the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have 
not had the opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the 
skill set  that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would 
like to explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but 
that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would 
also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and 
sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope 
that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a 
list change our tone of responses.

I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the info 
and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a part of a 
supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
perspectives, Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
ram kalia
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me 
please!

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to purchase the 
same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
I think this might have been answered but is it possible to buy more voices? 
Thanks and sorry if I’m senile.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I only downloaded one audio book from Bookshare, and this was a year or so 
 ago. When I did, though, it used Kendra, from Ivona, not Heather from A 
 Capella. Again, things may have changed now.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Michelle Bernstein 
 michellebbbernst...@gmail.com mailto:michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The default voice on the Voice Dream app is the Heather voice.
 Does anyone know if the Heather voice is the same voice that is
 used when you download Bookshare books in audio format?  Thank you. Michelle
 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Jose Lomeli
Exactly well said! Please people leave the sarcasm behind it's not helping you 
in any way!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Terrie,
 
 Beautifully said and if you hadn't done so I was going to do so myself, now I 
 will just support you and add a few thoughts.
 I agree that asking for this is not OK, but being married to a Filipina and 
 having travelled to several east Asian third-world countries I have seen what 
 not having anything means. Some of the blind folk on here who don't have work 
 and are on a very tight budget may think they are not so well off, but I can 
 assure them that their situation is nothing compared to that of half the 
 population of the planet. I know it doesn't mean anything to make these 
 comparisons, but given the several very ungraceful replies I thought maybe a 
 reminder of how good we have it living in free countries like the US, Canada, 
 England and so on.
 Given it's Christmas today I really wonder about the sarcasm in many of these 
 messages and it was probably expressed by people (at least some of them) who 
 may consider themselves Christians. If you do call yourself that and if you 
 have replied to that, maybe you need to examine your values.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Sieghard 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
 gift me please!
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I 
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh 
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask 
 for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside 
 of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the 
 name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native 
 English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where 
 asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it 
 does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate 
 among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we 
 have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn 
 independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them empowered 
 in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I 
 understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to 
 him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain 
 that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't  have 
 what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find 
 resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our 
 tone of responses.
 
 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the 
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a 
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
 compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
 perspectives, Terrie Terlau
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me 
 please!
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to purchase the 
 same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
Hello, all.

I have been reading the responses and trying to formulate my own. I think that 
not only do we need to step out of our North American mind set but also please 
remember that upon first glance, that request might look suspicious. It is of 
utmost importance to think before we answer harshly. 

I think it is essential for people to step back and think how well we have it 
and I’ve known this for years. I used to belong to a pen pal magazine when I 
was a teenager and I got requests from developing countries asking for watches, 
paper, all manner of things which I used to detest because, in my ignorance, I 
did not have a clue about these nations nor their access to things we take for 
granted. I received a valuable lesson not to criticize others for asking for 
things as long as we know it’s done with upright intentions, not a scam.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Terrie,
 
 Beautifully said and if you hadn't done so I was going to do so myself, now I 
 will just support you and add a few thoughts.
 I agree that asking for this is not OK, but being married to a Filipina and 
 having travelled to several east Asian third-world countries I have seen what 
 not having anything means. Some of the blind folk on here who don't have work 
 and are on a very tight budget may think they are not so well off, but I can 
 assure them that their situation is nothing compared to that of half the 
 population of the planet. I know it doesn't mean anything to make these 
 comparisons, but given the several very ungraceful replies I thought maybe a 
 reminder of how good we have it living in free countries like the US, Canada, 
 England and so on.
 Given it's Christmas today I really wonder about the sarcasm in many of these 
 messages and it was probably expressed by people (at least some of them) who 
 may consider themselves Christians. If you do call yourself that and if you 
 have replied to that, maybe you need to examine your values.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Sieghard 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
 gift me please!
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I 
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh 
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask 
 for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside 
 of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the 
 name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native 
 English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where 
 asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it 
 does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate 
 among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we 
 have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn 
 independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them empowered 
 in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I 
 understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to 
 him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain 
 that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't  have 
 what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find 
 resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our 
 tone of responses.
 
 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the 
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a 
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
 compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
 perspectives, Terrie Terlau
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me 
 please!
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to purchase the 
 same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
We can't control who joins the list, and we can't control what posts 
make it to the list. Obviously, there needs to be some guidelines on 
what is and isn't appropriate to post to the list, but we also need to 
respond responsibly to the posts we do see on the list. We need to have 
a bit of a thick skin sometimes, realize not everyone speaks our 
language or lives in our culture and just use the delete key from time 
to time. I don't follow this list to see people ask for something, but 
I'd rather see that one message, hit my delete key than see all of the 
unnecessary responses to that one post. I'd suggest using the delete key 
and let the moderator deal with the original post.


On 12/25/2014 12:21 PM, alia robinson wrote:

I don’t celebrate this day as some don’t, and if we let one person ask for 
money/gifts then everyone should be able, so hey throw some my way! personally 
I have no interest in a list like that. I come here for help/advice, period.

On Dec 25, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Patti Johnson pattigj1...@gmail.com wrote:

Ditto, Terrie!  I mean, what is this day all about but to show compassion and 
kindness to our fellow human beings, not to get smart alecky and snide to some 
one that in truth may come from a place where he doesn't have all the resources 
we all do.
Drop the sarcasm, please! It's just not right.  Especially not today.




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Re: got KNFB on sale today for 74.99 with discount cards

2014-12-25 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Darn! I wish I’d waited until it was on sale! Nice price cut.
 On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Karl Smith k...@axistech.net wrote:
 
 Well I was going to wait to get KNFB reader until I get my iPhone 6 but when 
 it came up for $74.99 today I just had to go ahead and get it. I heard that 
 this sale is on for three days but I can’t find anywhere on the KNFB site 
 that says this. Nevertheless, I decided not to risk it and with my free $10 
 iTunes card and $100.00 more purchased on a special at $85.00 the other day I 
 was able to get it for somewhere in the $50s. Really cool and it works 
 amazingly well on my 4S I can’t wait to try it on my new 6 when I get it.
  
 Karl
  
  
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Re: Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Alan Lemly
According to my perusal of the Bookshare-Discuss emails I've received on this 
topic, Ivona Kendra is the default voice used by bookshare for their mp3 
audiobooks like Alex said. You can download Kendra from voice dream reader for 
$4.99. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Michelle Bernstein 
 michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Alex. Is Kendra the same voice that is used for the audio downloads 
 on Bookshare-
 this is the voice that I prefer.  Michelle
 On Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:45:36 AM UTC-5, Michelle Bernstein wrote:
 The default voice on the Voice Dream app is the Heather voice.
 Does anyone know if the Heather voice is the same voice that is
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
and does anyone think this is spam? I one time sold an iPhone and got a $300 
pay pal deposit for it which I didn’t act on since it was a scam and I did not 
send him the phone as he was from Africa I believe.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 
 You forgot the shipping and handling and the tax!!
 
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 - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:18 AM
 Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
 gift me please!
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I would be able to gift you a £25 iTunes gift card, but there would be
 a £30 administration fee to cover the time taken to send you the
 information. If this is acceptable please email me off list  I will
 organize the gift ASAP.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben.
 
 On 12/25/14, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
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tune in radio

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
sorry for this nutty question, does tune in radio work in Canada?  I ask this 
not to sound cheap but if it costs money, I don’t want to buy it if it won’t 
work here and if not, I don’t want to download an app where I can’t access the 
content. Again, sorry if this is way too senile sounding.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Corey Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I completely agree
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:
 
   I'm not talking about the slender silky way the phone fits into your
 hand... I've been listening to back shows of Fresh Air and other things and
 it's just wonderful how easy it is to access programs/shows. Through Tune-In
 Radio. It's instantaneous once you find the station or programs you want to
 sample. I find using the phone for this sort of thing works far better than
 my computer, IE and Jaws ever could. Happy holidays everyone. 
 
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Re: got KNFB on sale today for 74.99 with discount cards

2014-12-25 Thread Charles Rivard
Me, too.  But it always seems to go that way.  If you have a radio that needs 
to be hooked to an antenna, and you can't for the life of you, find the 
antenna, go and buy one.  When you get the radio hooked up and working as it 
should, you'll find the original antenna in an obvious place.  It's one of 
Murphy's laws.  (grin)

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  Subject: Re: got KNFB on sale today for 74.99 with discount cards


  Darn! I wish I’d waited until it was on sale! Nice price cut.

On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Karl Smith k...@axistech.net wrote:


Well I was going to wait to get KNFB reader until I get my iPhone 6 but 
when it came up for $74.99 today I just had to go ahead and get it. I heard 
that this sale is on for three days but I can’t find anywhere on the KNFB site 
that says this. Nevertheless, I decided not to risk it and with my free $10 
iTunes card and $100.00 more purchased on a special at $85.00 the other day I 
was able to get it for somewhere in the $50s. Really cool and it works 
amazingly well on my 4S I can’t wait to try it on my new 6 when I get it.

Karl


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RE: tune in radio

2014-12-25 Thread Deidre Muccio
It was a free download, if I remember correctly. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kerri G
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: tune in radio

sorry for this nutty question, does tune in radio work in Canada?  I ask this 
not to sound cheap but if it costs money, I don’t want to buy it if it won’t 
work here and if not, I don’t want to download an app where I can’t access the 
content. Again, sorry if this is way too senile sounding.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Corey Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I completely agree
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:
 
   I'm not talking about the slender silky way the phone fits into 
 your hand... I've been listening to back shows of Fresh Air and other 
 things and it's just wonderful how easy it is to access 
 programs/shows. Through Tune-In Radio. It's instantaneous once you 
 find the station or programs you want to sample. I find using the 
 phone for this sort of thing works far better than my computer, IE and Jaws 
 ever could. Happy holidays everyone.
 
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KNFB Reader for iPad

2014-12-25 Thread Pinky
Hi Guys,

Can anyone tell me if they have downloaded the KNFB Reader app on an iPad 4
and does it work ok?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Ed

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Dave Sheridan
Well said Terrie. My understanding is that this is a support group, yes for all 
things related to i'devices but a support group. Sarcasm amounts to bullying 
and in my opinion doesn't belong here. We're all capable of making rash and 
unfair judgements so reading back what one has written before pressing the send 
button is quite useful. Maybe consider how you might feel if you had a post you 
are about to send directed at you. 

Dave 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 25 Dec 2014, at 17:50, Terrie Terlau terrie...@twc.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I 
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh 
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask 
 for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside 
 of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the 
 name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native 
 English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where 
 asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it 
 does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate 
 among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we 
 have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn 
 independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them empowered 
 in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I 
 understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to 
 him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain 
 that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't  have 
 what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find 
 resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our 
 tone of responses.
 
 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the 
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a 
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
 compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
 perspectives,
 Terrie Terlau
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me 
 please!
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Re: the beauty of the iPhone

2014-12-25 Thread Devin Prater
Well, I've used iOS for years now, and some applications really are 
beautiful in their operation. The hangouts app, the messages app, and 
stuff like that. the money reader is another app that just blows me away 
when I use it. Some apps are rather annoying, like mud-rammer which 
barely works for me, and apps like google docs for making documents is 
okay I guess, but Pages is better for me. As a sidenote, does anyone 
know if pages, with a bluetooth keyboard, allows for italics and such? I 
just got a program for the mac that makes the mac keyboard like a 
bluetooth keyboard. Anyways, I also love all the things you can do with 
voiceover, like labeling elements, and the Alex voice I'll promptly 
download when I get the iPhone 6. Also, if anyone has any tips for using 
the cellular functions of the iPhone I'd be glad to hear them offlist, 
like the best procedures for making calls, setting up voicemail, and any 
differences of setting up an iPhone as to setting up an iPod.

On 12/25/2014 10:30 AM, Deidre Muccio wrote:

I'm not talking about the slender silky way the phone fits into your
hand... I've been listening to back shows of Fresh Air and other things and
it's just wonderful how easy it is to access programs/shows. Through Tune-In
Radio. It's instantaneous once you find the station or programs you want to
sample. I find using the phone for this sort of thing works far better than
my computer, IE and Jaws ever could. Happy holidays everyone.



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help, bluetooth keyboard will not communicate with the ipad minny

2014-12-25 Thread Jed Barton

Hey guys,
I ahve a bluetooth keyboard with my ipad minny and it will not work.  It 
just quit, and i have no clue how to trouble shoot it.  I'm charging it 
now, thinking the battery perhaps died.  How do you know if your 
bluetooth keyboard is communicating with the ipad.
I went in to keyboards, and it says something about emogee keyboard, or 
 prononces it eee mo gee.  Any ideas?  I have no clue of the brand of 
this, i forgot.

I know for a fact the switch is in the on position.  Any ideas?

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Re: Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Alex Hall
I didn't know it was that expensive. Yes, you can get tons of extra voices for 
VDR, each $2 to $5. I prefer Ivona Sally myself, but there are four or five 
voice companies represented, so you're sure to find one you like.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 According to my perusal of the Bookshare-Discuss emails I've received on this 
 topic, Ivona Kendra is the default voice used by bookshare for their mp3 
 audiobooks like Alex said. You can download Kendra from voice dream reader 
 for $4.99. 
 
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Michelle Bernstein 
 michellebbbernst...@gmail.com mailto:michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Alex. Is Kendra the same voice that is used for the audio 
 downloads on Bookshare-
 this is the voice that I prefer.  Michelle
 On Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:45:36 AM UTC-5, Michelle Bernstein wrote:
 The default voice on the Voice Dream app is the Heather voice.
 Does anyone know if the Heather voice is the same voice that is
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Re: KNFB Reader for iPad

2014-12-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
I have used it on an iPad mini and it definitely works on that one. You should 
be okay.



 On Dec 25, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 Can anyone tell me if they have downloaded the KNFB Reader app on an iPad 4 
 and does it work ok?
  
 Thanks in advance
  
 Ed
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Re: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Deb Lewis
I'm trying to order this. When I come to the shipping combo box I
pressed U for US which took me to US Virgin Islands but then I
couldn't arrow down and the combo box disappeared. Anyone figured out
how to select the right location or how to get the combo box to appear
if you do make an error as I apparently did? This is also available at
Amazon but without the holiday discount.

On 12/25/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi jennifer,



 Richard describes it quite well in his initial post, just read to the bottom
 of the thread and you'll find it. I won't repeat it since it's right here in
 this thread.



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Jenifer Barr
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:18 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: The ScanJig



 Hi.

 What is this product? And, how does it differ from the stand scan pro?
 Thanks for any information anyone can give. And, Merry Christmas!


 Jenifer Barr

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jim Ruby j...@blindsea.com
 mailto:j...@blindsea.com  wrote:

 Thank you, just wanted to be sure I was getting the right product for the
 right price:).





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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: The ScanJig



 I'm waiting for confirmation from ScanJig, but I believe I gave the wrong
 price. I went by memory from reading the review in AccessWorld from last
 year; that was a mistake. Also, this model is a newer model than the one
 they reviewed. I think the correct price is $39.95. The price I remembered
 was a sale price referenced in the AccessWorld article.

 I should have double checked the price with ScanJig before sending out my
 review.

 However, even if it is indeed $39.95, and it probably is, it is still well
 worth it.

 I am also sure there is a refund policy, which I will also check out and
 post corrected information as soon as I have it.

 If you are wondering how I could possibly have not known the price, it is
 because they sent me one to evaluate because I am the Training Center
 Director at a Commission for the Blind.

 The guy from StandScan also sent our agency a a couple free StandScans. The
 original model, and then the one out of the more improved material.

 Also, the Giraffe Reader was sold to me at half price.

 So, now that I have evaluated all three stands, if one can deal with the
 larger size of the ScanJig when transporting it, I still say it is
 hands-down the best stand and the most versatile.

 Sorry for the confusion, but once I hear from the ScanJig folks, I will post
 corrected information. But, it does look like the regular price will be
 $39.95.

 Richard





 Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

 Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe



 Sent from my iPhone 5S




 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Jim Ruby j...@blindsea.com
 mailto:j...@blindsea.com  wrote:

 I was going to place an order, but the price was more then $30.00 with
 everything it came to 33.95, $6.00 for shipping making a total of $39.95.
 was there a coupon code or something to enter at checkout? No, not in debt
 nore cheap, just like to spend my money wisely.



 Thanks.





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 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:01 PM
 To: ViPone list
 Subject: The ScanJig



 OK, I now have seen what I consider the Cadillac of stands.



 I got the ScanJig at work Monday.  I used KNFB Reader to scan the setup
 instructions, free-hand, and was able to figure out the pieces and put it
 together.

 I enjoy puzzles, so it was fun putting it together.  It didn't take more
 than about 5 or 10 minutes to figure it out without sighted help.

 There are pictures of the pieces, so a sighted person could probably do it
 in 2.



 The ScanJig costs $30.00.

 It is made from hard plastic.  It is a bit thicker than the other stands
 but
 it looks way more durable.

 It folds up into a box 13 by 9 and 1.5 inches thick.

 The beauty of the ScanJig is that it can hold anything from a smart phone
 to
 a tablet.

 It holds both the document and the device at an angle so there is less
 likelihood of casting a shadow over the document and it can capture the
 maximum of the room light or use the flash.  There are no lights needed on
 the device itself.



 There is a movable Device Holder that snaps into one of four slots at
 various distances from the Document Shelf.  On the Device Holder, is a
 little shelf that snaps in to hold the phone or tablet.  There are 10
 adjustment holes so you can get the optimum height of the device pointing
 at
 the document.

 I found with both the iPhone 5s and the 6, that the first slot, which 

Re: Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
thanks, so much.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I didn't know it was that expensive. Yes, you can get tons of extra voices 
 for VDR, each $2 to $5. I prefer Ivona Sally myself, but there are four or 
 five voice companies represented, so you're sure to find one you like.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com 
 mailto:wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 According to my perusal of the Bookshare-Discuss emails I've received on 
 this topic, Ivona Kendra is the default voice used by bookshare for their 
 mp3 audiobooks like Alex said. You can download Kendra from voice dream 
 reader for $4.99. 
 
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Michelle Bernstein 
 michellebbbernst...@gmail.com mailto:michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Alex. Is Kendra the same voice that is used for the audio 
 downloads on Bookshare-
 this is the voice that I prefer.  Michelle
 On Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:45:36 AM UTC-5, Michelle Bernstein wrote:
 The default voice on the Voice Dream app is the Heather voice.
 Does anyone know if the Heather voice is the same voice that is
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
asking for money and gifts on a technical public support list is bad 
netiquette, and will get you banned on most lists I am on. I am here to help 
people with their tech issues, not to be asked for money/gifts. 


 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Dave Sheridan dsherida...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well said Terrie. My understanding is that this is a support group, yes for 
 all things related to i'devices but a support group. Sarcasm amounts to 
 bullying and in my opinion doesn't belong here. We're all capable of making 
 rash and unfair judgements so reading back what one has written before 
 pressing the send button is quite useful. Maybe consider how you might feel 
 if you had a post you are about to send directed at you. 

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
it’s just bad all around. 

Alia
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 and does anyone think this is spam? I one time sold an iPhone and got a $300 
 pay pal deposit for it which I didn’t act on since it was a scam and I did 
 not send him the phone as he was from Africa I believe.

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread alia robinson
but imo there are places for that. I wouldn’t go on a list about cats, and gush 
about my dog, nor do I think a tech list is the place for asking for things. It 
could get to the point where the list is used for it, and who knows who might 
get ripped off then complain here, and where does it end? If you guys want a 
list for that drama you can start one. Of course the mods will make this 
decision, then I will think long and hard about whether it is somewhere I want 
to stay. I give gifts, and money to those I trust, and know, and charities I 
believe in, and no offense but I don’t know anyone here well enough yet to do 
that, and if I did I would want it done privately. I’m sorry if that sounds 
harsh, but I don’t want this list to turn into the “ask for iphone list. 

Alia
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 Hello, all.
 
 I have been reading the responses and trying to formulate my own. I think 
 that not only do we need to step out of our North American mind set but also 
 please remember that upon first glance, that request might look suspicious. 
 It is of utmost importance to think before we answer harshly. 
 
 I think it is essential for people to step back and think how well we have it 
 and I’ve known this for years. I used to belong to a pen pal magazine when I 
 was a teenager and I got requests from developing countries asking for 
 watches, paper, all manner of things which I used to detest because, in my 
 ignorance, I did not have a clue about these nations nor their access to 
 things we take for granted. I received a valuable lesson not to criticize 
 others for asking for things as long as we know it’s done with upright 
 intentions, not a scam.

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Re: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Matthew Bullis
Try using alt down arrow to open the combo box so it won't activate when you 
scroll it.
Matthew

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very strange bluetooth keyboard problem with my ipad minny

2014-12-25 Thread Jed Barton

Hey guys,
Alright, this bluetooth keyboard issue makes no sense what so ever.  I 
have my bluetooth keyboard connected.  My volume up and downs are the 
only keys that work on it.  When i raise and lower the volume i hear the 
pop pop pop pop pop pop sound that the volume controls make.
When i press my up, down, left, and right arrow, voiceover says 
absolutely nothing.  Any ideas how to fix it?  Makes no logical sense.


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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread May McDonald Homuth
I totally agree. This was totally bad taste. Why not ask your family and 
friends?

May and LD, Luna Moon!
www.canadianlynx.ca
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 I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO 
 it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would I 
 have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it. 
 
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:50 AM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Re: Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Michelle Bernstein
I went to the voice dream app site which mentions that in the features section 
that the default voice is Heather, but also references ios 7. Perhaps that has 
changed.

Michelle

Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 thanks, so much.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I didn't know it was that expensive. Yes, you can get tons of extra voices 
 for VDR, each $2 to $5. I prefer Ivona Sally myself, but there are four or 
 five voice companies represented, so you're sure to find one you like.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 According to my perusal of the Bookshare-Discuss emails I've received on 
 this topic, Ivona Kendra is the default voice used by bookshare for their 
 mp3 audiobooks like Alex said. You can download Kendra from voice dream 
 reader for $4.99. 
 
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Michelle Bernstein 
 michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Alex. Is Kendra the same voice that is used for the audio 
 downloads on Bookshare-
 this is the voice that I prefer.  Michelle
 On Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:45:36 AM UTC-5, Michelle Bernstein 
 wrote:
 The default voice on the Voice Dream app is the Heather voice.
 Does anyone know if the Heather voice is the same voice that is
 used when you download Bookshare books in audio format?  Thank you. 
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Re: Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Alex Hall
That's talking about the iOS voices, the ones VoiceOver uses for all its 
different languages (Karen, Samantha, Daniel, and others). In iOS7 and later, 
these voices can be selected for use in Voice Dream, letting people read with 
them but not read with VoiceOver itself, so your file can be read in the 
background. All newer versions of iOS will offer this capability; the only 
caveat is that the Alex voice in iOS8 cannot currently be selected for use in 
VDR.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Michelle Bernstein 
 michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I went to the voice dream app site which mentions that in the features 
 section that the default voice is Heather, but also references ios 7. Perhaps 
 that has changed.
 
 Michelle
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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 mailto:kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 thanks, so much.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I didn't know it was that expensive. Yes, you can get tons of extra voices 
 for VDR, each $2 to $5. I prefer Ivona Sally myself, but there are four or 
 five voice companies represented, so you're sure to find one you like.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com 
 mailto:wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 According to my perusal of the Bookshare-Discuss emails I've received on 
 this topic, Ivona Kendra is the default voice used by bookshare for their 
 mp3 audiobooks like Alex said. You can download Kendra from voice dream 
 reader for $4.99. 
 
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 michellebbbernst...@gmail.com mailto:michellebbbernst...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Thank you Alex. Is Kendra the same voice that is used for the audio 
 downloads on Bookshare-
 this is the voice that I prefer.  Michelle
 On Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:45:36 AM UTC-5, Michelle Bernstein 
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 The default voice on the Voice Dream app is the Heather voice.
 Does anyone know if the Heather voice is the same voice that is
 used when you download Bookshare books in audio format?  Thank you. 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco

nothing surprises me anymore.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: alia robinson

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO 
it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would 
I have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it.




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Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift


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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
But what is the difference between this solicitation and that of the 
nigerian princess? I might even decide to give this kind of gift in this 
situation, but not based on a vague solicitation from a total stranger.


Andy


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From: Jose Lomeli

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


Exactly well said! Please people leave the sarcasm behind it's not helping 
you in any way!


Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Terrie,

Beautifully said and if you hadn't done so I was going to do so myself, 
now I will just support you and add a few thoughts.
I agree that asking for this is not OK, but being married to a Filipina 
and having travelled to several east Asian third-world countries I have 
seen what not having anything means. Some of the blind folk on here who 
don't have work and are on a very tight budget may think they are not so 
well off, but I can assure them that their situation is nothing compared 
to that of half the population of the planet. I know it doesn't mean 
anything to make these comparisons, but given the several very ungraceful 
replies I thought maybe a reminder of how good we have it living in free 
countries like the US, Canada, England and so on.
Given it's Christmas today I really wonder about the sarcasm in many of 
these messages and it was probably expressed by people (at least some of 
them) who may consider themselves Christians. If you do call yourself that 
and if you have replied to that, maybe you need to examine your values.



Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Terrie Terlau

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I 
don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh 
things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to 
ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step 
outside of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a 
moment. From the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may 
not be a native English speaker and may be from another country and 
another culture where asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad 
connotations that it does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 
60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending on how you figure 
the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have not had the 
opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set 
that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would like to 
explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but 
that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I 
would also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, 
blind and sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send 
compassion and hope that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I 
also hope that we as a list change our tone of responses.


I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the 
info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a 
part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a 
more compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
perspectives, Terrie Terlau


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of ram kalia

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift 
me please!


Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to purchase 
the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a

gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: got KNFB on sale today for 74.99 with discount cards

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
Well, I paid for Flexy before it became free, so you never know.

Andy

From: Sarai Bucciarelli 
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Subject: Re: got KNFB on sale today for 74.99 with discount cards
Darn! I wish I’d waited until it was on sale! Nice price cut.

  On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Karl Smith k...@axistech.net wrote:

  Well I was going to wait to get KNFB reader until I get my iPhone 6 but when 
it came up for $74.99 today I just had to go ahead and get it. I heard that 
this sale is on for three days but I can’t find anywhere on the KNFB site that 
says this. Nevertheless, I decided not to risk it and with my free $10 iTunes 
card and $100.00 more purchased on a special at $85.00 the other day I was able 
to get it for somewhere in the $50s. Really cool and it works amazingly well on 
my 4S I can’t wait to try it on my new 6 when I get it.

  Karl


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Re: got KNFB on sale today for 74.99 with discount cards

2014-12-25 Thread shuang . angel
It seems like the AUS store got full price on
I thought the sales finishes today...
So. Grab it when you can


Sent from my iPhone

 On 26 Dec 2014, at 08:26, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Well, I paid for Flexy before it became free, so you never know.
  
 Andy
  
 From: Sarai Bucciarelli
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: got KNFB on sale today for 74.99 with discount  cards
 Darn! I wish I’d waited until it was on sale! Nice price cut.
 On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Karl Smith k...@axistech.net wrote:
  
 Well I was going to wait to get KNFB reader until I get my iPhone 6 but when 
 it came up for $74.99 today I just had to go ahead and get it. I heard that 
 this sale is on for three days but I can’t find anywhere on the KNFB site 
 that says this. Nevertheless, I decided not to risk it and with my free $10 
 iTunes card and $100.00 more purchased on a special at $85.00 the other day 
 I was able to get it for somewhere in the $50s. Really cool and it works 
 amazingly well on my 4S I can’t wait to try it on my new 6 when I get it.
  
 Karl
  
  
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Re: Voice Dream App Default Voice

2014-12-25 Thread Alan Lemly
Michelle,

Yes, the default free Voice Dream Reader voice is Acapela Heather as Alex 
stated in his original reply. The TTS voice used by Bookshare in its mp3 
audiobooks is Ivona Kendra which you asked about. With Voice Dream Reader and 
iOS 7.x and later, you can also use the voices built in to your iOS device. 
Since I've gotten so used to my iPhone's high quality Samantha voice, that's 
the one I prefer when reading Bookshare DAISY text books with Voice Dream 
Reader.

Alan Lemly

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 michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I went to the voice dream app site which mentions that in the features 
 section that the default voice is Heather, but also references ios 7. Perhaps 
 that has changed.
 
 Michelle
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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 thanks, so much.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I didn't know it was that expensive. Yes, you can get tons of extra voices 
 for VDR, each $2 to $5. I prefer Ivona Sally myself, but there are four or 
 five voice companies represented, so you're sure to find one you like.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 According to my perusal of the Bookshare-Discuss emails I've received on 
 this topic, Ivona Kendra is the default voice used by bookshare for their 
 mp3 audiobooks like Alex said. You can download Kendra from voice dream 
 reader for $4.99. 
 
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you Alex. Is Kendra the same voice that is used for the audio 
 downloads on Bookshare-
 this is the voice that I prefer.  Michelle
 On Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:45:36 AM UTC-5, Michelle Bernstein 
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 The default voice on the Voice Dream app is the Heather voice.
 Does anyone know if the Heather voice is the same voice that is
 used when you download Bookshare books in audio format?  Thank you. 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Charles Rivard
I could understand a starving person asking total strangers for food, but I 
would never ask an entire group in an effort to find someone to buy or give 
me an app.  Food would be for survival, but an app certainly is not.  They 
are in no way similar.  When I read the request, I noticed that it was very 
poorly written, and it was an absolute turn off to me.  This has nothing at 
all to do with Christianity, either.  There are just some things that you do 
not do on a list like this, and this request is probably at the very top of 
that list, or near it.  Common sense should be used, and it certainly was 
not.


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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!



nothing surprises me anymore.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: alia robinson

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!

I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO
it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would
I have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it.



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Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift


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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
When i bought my first PC, I was told that I would also have to buy 
software. If this person wants the app, he obviously has an iPhone. Also, 
there are other much cheaper apps. Maybe not as good, but if you can't 
afford a Cadillac and you need transportation, you settle for a Chevy, or 
even a bicycle.

Andy


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


I could understand a starving person asking total strangers for food, but I
would never ask an entire group in an effort to find someone to buy or give
me an app.  Food would be for survival, but an app certainly is not.  They
are in no way similar.  When I read the request, I noticed that it was very
poorly written, and it was an absolute turn off to me.  This has nothing at
all to do with Christianity, either.  There are just some things that you do
not do on a list like this, and this request is probably at the very top of
that list, or near it.  Common sense should be used, and it certainly was
not.

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- Original Message - 
From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!


nothing surprises me anymore.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: alia robinson

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!

I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO
it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would
I have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it.



On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:50 AM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift


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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
It would be interesting to know if those who felt that the post was 
appropriate actually gave him any money.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


When i bought my first PC, I was told that I would also have to buy
software. If this person wants the app, he obviously has an iPhone. Also,
there are other much cheaper apps. Maybe not as good, but if you can't
afford a Cadillac and you need transportation, you settle for a Chevy, or
even a bicycle.
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!

I could understand a starving person asking total strangers for food, but I
would never ask an entire group in an effort to find someone to buy or give
me an app.  Food would be for survival, but an app certainly is not.  They
are in no way similar.  When I read the request, I noticed that it was very
poorly written, and it was an absolute turn off to me.  This has nothing at
all to do with Christianity, either.  There are just some things that you do
not do on a list like this, and this request is probably at the very top of
that list, or near it.  Common sense should be used, and it certainly was
not.

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- Original Message - 
From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!


nothing surprises me anymore.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: alia robinson

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!

I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO
it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would
I have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it.



On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:50 AM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift


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Re: very strange bluetooth keyboard problem with my ipad minny

2014-12-25 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi Jed,

As I said in my voicemail, what probably has happened, is you turned QuickNav 
off with the press of the left and right arrows together for typing. You have 
to turn it back on in order to interact with the rest of the phone. If this 
isn't the case, try to have the iPad mini forget the device and pare it again.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey guys,
 Alright, this bluetooth keyboard issue makes no sense what so ever.  I have 
 my bluetooth keyboard connected.  My volume up and downs are the only keys 
 that work on it.  When i raise and lower the volume i hear the pop pop pop 
 pop pop pop sound that the volume controls make.
 When i press my up, down, left, and right arrow, voiceover says absolutely 
 nothing.  Any ideas how to fix it?  Makes no logical sense.
 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Dave Sheridan
Hi Andy

I suggest you read the posts of those who felt the initial responses to Ram 
Kalia's post was harsh as not one stated that his post was appropriate for this 
list as you have suggested. I think Terrie's post in respect of this was very 
clear and succinct and well worth revisiting. 

Dave

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 On 25 Dec 2014, at 22:48, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 It would be interesting to know if those who felt that the post was 
 appropriate actually gave him any money.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Andy Baracco
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
 gift me please!
 
 When i bought my first PC, I was told that I would also have to buy
 software. If this person wants the app, he obviously has an iPhone. Also,
 there are other much cheaper apps. Maybe not as good, but if you can't
 afford a Cadillac and you need transportation, you settle for a Chevy, or
 even a bicycle.
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
 gift me please!
 
 I could understand a starving person asking total strangers for food, but I
 would never ask an entire group in an effort to find someone to buy or give
 me an app.  Food would be for survival, but an app certainly is not.  They
 are in no way similar.  When I read the request, I noticed that it was very
 poorly written, and it was an absolute turn off to me.  This has nothing at
 all to do with Christianity, either.  There are just some things that you do
 not do on a list like this, and this request is probably at the very top of
 that list, or near it.  Common sense should be used, and it certainly was
 not.
 
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 you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message - From: Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
 gift me please!
 
 
 nothing surprises me anymore.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: alia robinson
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
 gift me please!
 
 I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO
 it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would
 I have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it.
 
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:50 AM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Terrie Terlau
Hi again,
To those who have written about the inappropriateness of Ram's request, I think 
that we all agree that the request is inappropriate and that we should not give 
money to someone that we don't know who asks by email. My point earlier was 
that we might be kinder  in how we respond.
Terrie

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Sheridan
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift 
me please!

Well said Terrie. My understanding is that this is a support group, yes for all 
things related to i'devices but a support group. Sarcasm amounts to bullying 
and in my opinion doesn't belong here. We're all capable of making rash and 
unfair judgements so reading back what one has written before pressing the send 
button is quite useful. Maybe consider how you might feel if you had a post you 
are about to send directed at you. 

Dave 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 25 Dec 2014, at 17:50, Terrie Terlau terrie...@twc.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I 
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh 
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask 
 for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside 
 of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the 
 name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native 
 English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where 
 asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it 
 does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate 
 among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we 
 have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn 
 independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them empowered 
 in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I 
 understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to 
 him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain 
 that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't  have 
 what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find 
 resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our 
 tone of responses.
 
 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the 
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a 
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
 compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
 perspectives,
 Terrie Terlau
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me 
 please!
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
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RE: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Jim Ruby
Ok, ordered and going to give it a try. Was very easy to order on the site
all fields read great.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:01 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: The ScanJig

 

OK, I now have seen what I consider the Cadillac of stands.

 

I got the ScanJig at work Monday.  I used KNFB Reader to scan the setup
instructions, free-hand, and was able to figure out the pieces and put it
together.

I enjoy puzzles, so it was fun putting it together.  It didn't take more
than about 5 or 10 minutes to figure it out without sighted help.

There are pictures of the pieces, so a sighted person could probably do it
in 2.

 

The ScanJig costs $30.00.

It is made from hard plastic.  It is a bit thicker than the other stands but
it looks way more durable.

It folds up into a box 13 by 9 and 1.5 inches thick.  

The beauty of the ScanJig is that it can hold anything from a smart phone to
a tablet.

It holds both the document and the device at an angle so there is less
likelihood of casting a shadow over the document and it can capture the
maximum of the room light or use the flash.  There are no lights needed on
the device itself.

 

There is a movable Device Holder that snaps into one of four slots at
various distances from the Document Shelf.  On the Device Holder, is a
little shelf that snaps in to hold the phone or tablet.  There are 10
adjustment holes so you can get the optimum height of the device pointing at
the document.

I found with both the iPhone 5s and the 6, that the first slot, which is
11.5 inches from the document was the best position.  I also found that if I
put the shelf on the device holder in the second hole from the top, I can
get the entire document even if it has narrow margins.

There are some stick on pieces to help hold your device in place once you
get the position where you want it.

There are also two clips that can hold a document on the document shelf, for
example, a tri-fold letter that wants to curl, you can clip it in place so
it holds it steady.

 

It is definitely more bulky when folded up than either the Giraffe Reader or
the StandScan, but the fact that it will also hold a tablet from a full iPad
to an iPad Mini or any smart phone I think gives it a big edge.  Not to
mention it is made out of much stronger material and at a great price.

 

I'm going to paste the setup instructions below and also the link to their
web site.

 

www.scanjig.com

 

Note: I added the focal distances to the setup instructions below.

 

ScanJig Set-up Instructions

 


Product Description:  


The ScanJig is designed for easy tactile positioning of both a
smart device and documents for correct focus,  alignment and field of view.


Once set up - the stand holds smart phones or tablets in a
vertical portrait orientation and at an angle where the  device's touch
screen interface is facing the user. The stand can also hold a document, in
the same vertical  portrait orientation, and angle, directly behind the
smart phone or tablet.  

The device holder can be adjusted to position your device's rear
lens to point directly at the center of the  document.  

Once the device is positioned in the optimum location, stops can
be applied to lock in this position. Then your  phone or tablet can easily
be placed in the same spot for each use.  

The product's open design takes advantage of ambient light and
helps avoid shadows. Further the device flash is  completely unobstructed if
this feature is needed.  

 


What is stored inside the ScanJig  


*   1 - Smart Device Holder and Device Shelf - the device will sit
on the shelf.  

*   2 - Document Clips - to better hold creased documents or small
items.  

*   4 - Peal and Stick Device Stops - after your mobile device is
positioned the stops help hold it in place and  provide an easy way to
quickly use the same position again.  

*   2 - Thin peal and stick spacers - if needed, these can be placed
under your device for fine adjustment.  

 


Initial Set-Up  


 

1 Lift up on the latch at the front end of the ScanJig and open the cover
all the way until it stops. The inside of  the cover is the Document Bed
with a shelf on the bottom and a fence on the right. Place a document on the
shelf and against the fence.  

 

2   Positioning your device camera for a full screen view of the document.  

 

This initial set-up is done once, the optimum device position is
then preserved by applying the peal and stick  stops for subsequent uses.  

Reach inside the ScanJig tray and lift the Device Holder up and
out of the storage clips. Slide the Device Holder  into one of the four
slots near the front of the ScanJig tray. The bottom of the Device Holder
snaps into the  two anchor clips located at the bottom of each set of slots
in the tray.  

 

 

 

Re: very strange bluetooth keyboard problem with my ipad minny

2014-12-25 Thread Jed Barton
Right after i discovered the problem a bell went off, and bingo, it 
worked.  That was the anser.


On 12/25/2014 5:56 PM, Jennie Facer wrote:

Hi Jed,

As I said in my voicemail, what probably has happened, is you turned QuickNav 
off with the press of the left and right arrows together for typing. You have 
to turn it back on in order to interact with the rest of the phone. If this 
isn't the case, try to have the iPad mini forget the device and pare it again.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!


On Dec 25, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Jed Barton jedbar...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey guys,
Alright, this bluetooth keyboard issue makes no sense what so ever.  I have my 
bluetooth keyboard connected.  My volume up and downs are the only keys that 
work on it.  When i raise and lower the volume i hear the pop pop pop pop pop 
pop sound that the volume controls make.
When i press my up, down, left, and right arrow, voiceover says absolutely 
nothing.  Any ideas how to fix it?  Makes no logical sense.

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Selecting Text

2014-12-25 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
How do you select text on the iPhone? I know how to select all text in an edit 
field, but I just need to select some text in an app, or web page, and copy it.

Thanks,
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Re: Selecting Text

2014-12-25 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, if you're not using a Bluetooth keyboard, dan the gesture is kind of freaky 
but to select a lot of text you put two fingers together you'll spread them 
apart and put them together until you have all the text that you want to 
select, if you're selecting on a keyboard you will do shift down arrow.
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 edit field, but I just need to select some text in an app, or web page, and 
 copy it.
 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Victor Gouveia

I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.

So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person, and 
while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad to 
say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that is 
very sad indeed.


This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving this 
person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have 
been appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say, 
unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I think 
this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle it.


Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see 
nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole purpose 
of helping others out.


Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at this 
time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.



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-Original Message- 
From: Terrie Terlau

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I 
don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh 
things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask 
for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside 
of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From 
the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native 
English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where 
asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it 
does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate 
among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we 
have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn 
independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them empowered 
in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I 
understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to 
him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain 
that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't  have 
what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find 
resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our 
tone of responses.


I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the 
info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a 
part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
perspectives,

Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of ram kalia

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift 
me please!


Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Victor Gouveia
I should have also mentioned that it states in the rules that if you don't 
like a post from another member, there should be no flaming or bashing on 
list, simply contact the moderators and they will handle it, so, technically 
speaking, all the bashers, and, I'm sorry to say, all the messages of 
support to this person, however well meaning, have been breaking the rules, 
so, even if you don't like my last post, I think you better think twice 
about sending a nasty reply to this one.



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-Original Message- 
From: Dave Sheridan

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


Well said Terrie. My understanding is that this is a support group, yes for 
all things related to i'devices but a support group. Sarcasm amounts to 
bullying and in my opinion doesn't belong here. We're all capable of making 
rash and unfair judgements so reading back what one has written before 
pressing the send button is quite useful. Maybe consider how you might feel 
if you had a post you are about to send directed at you.


Dave

Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Dec 2014, at 17:50, Terrie Terlau terrie...@twc.com wrote:

Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I 
don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh 
things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to 
ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step 
outside of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a 
moment. From the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may 
not be a native English speaker and may be from another country and 
another culture where asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad 
connotations that it does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 
60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending on how you figure 
the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have not had the 
opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set 
that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would like to 
explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but 
that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I 
would also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, 
blind and sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send 
compassion and hope that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I 
also hope that we as a list change our tone of responses.


I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the 
info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a 
part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a 
more compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
perspectives,

Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of ram kalia

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift 
me please!


Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: tune in radio

2014-12-25 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
To my knowledge tunein is no longer available in the Canadian store but, for 
those who have it, it works great. 



Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 sorry for this nutty question, does tune in radio work in Canada?  I ask this 
 not to sound cheap but if it costs money, I don’t want to buy it if it won’t 
 work here and if not, I don’t want to download an app where I can’t access 
 the content. Again, sorry if this is way too senile sounding.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Corey Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I completely agree
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:
 
  I'm not talking about the slender silky way the phone fits into your
 hand... I've been listening to back shows of Fresh Air and other things and
 it's just wonderful how easy it is to access programs/shows. Through Tune-In
 Radio. It's instantaneous once you find the station or programs you want to
 sample. I find using the phone for this sort of thing works far better than
 my computer, IE and Jaws ever could. Happy holidays everyone. 
 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Charles Rivard
For me, it's not hatred for a person.  How could it be if I don't know the 
person?  It is the content of the original post that bothers me, and don't 
we all have a right to voice our opinion on the matter?  Thanks.


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From: Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!



I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.

So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person, and
while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad to
say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that is
very sad indeed.

This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving this
person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have
been appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say,
unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I think
this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle it.

Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see
nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole purpose
of helping others out.

Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at this
time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.


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-Original Message- 
From: Terrie Terlau

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!

Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I
don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh
things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask
for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside
of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From
the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native
English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where
asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it
does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate
among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we
have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn
independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them empowered
in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I
understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to
him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain
that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't  have
what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find
resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our
tone of responses.

I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the
info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a
part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more
compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying
perspectives,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of ram kalia
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift
me please!

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
When I first heard about this app, I had to save for two months to be able to 
afford it. Everyone is in different circumstances, some better than others, and 
it was tough seeing others who were just able to plop down $100 like that, but 
I had to be patient. I think it’s beneath our dignity as blind people to beg 
for anything, no matter the culture. An app is not a need; it’s a want. It’s a 
luxury. It’s a great thing to have that makes life easier, but we went for a 
long time without it. It’s better to be financially responsible and save what 
you need until you have enough. Just my $0.02.

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 4:19 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca wrote:
 
 I totally agree. This was totally bad taste. Why not ask your family and 
 friends?
 
 May and LD, Luna Moon!
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. IMO 
 it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never would 
 I have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it. 
 
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:50 AM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Period shortcut question

2014-12-25 Thread Ioana Gandrabur

Is there still a way to use the triple click on the spacebar to use the period 
shortcut? 
I am using the touch typing setting for VoiceOver. 

Thanks, 

Ioana a

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
On the point on whether you have the right to voice your opinion on the 
matter or not, I'll just point you to the statement at the bottom of 
every message on this list, where it says:


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On 12/25/2014 09:05 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:

For me, it's not hatred for a person.  How could it be if I don't know
the person?  It is the content of the original post that bothers me, and
don't we all have a right to voice our opinion on the matter?  Thanks.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money
somebody gift me please!


I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.

So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person, and
while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad to
say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that is
very sad indeed.

This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving this
person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have
been appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say,
unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I think
this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle it.

Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see
nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole
purpose
of helping others out.

Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at this
time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.


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-Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!

Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I
don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh
things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask
for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside
of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From
the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native
English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where
asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it
does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate
among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we
have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn
independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them
empowered
in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I
understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to
him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain
that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't
have
what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find
resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our
tone of responses.

I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the
info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a
part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a
more
compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying
perspectives,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of ram kalia
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift
me please!

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift



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Re: Selecting Text

2014-12-25 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
Can you explain better how this gesture works? It’s not working for me.

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 Hi, if you're not using a Bluetooth keyboard, dan the gesture is kind of 
 freaky but to select a lot of text you put two fingers together you'll spread 
 them apart and put them together until you have all the text that you want to 
 select, if you're selecting on a keyboard you will do shift down arrow.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
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 How do you select text on the iPhone? I know how to select all text in an 
 edit field, but I just need to select some text in an app, or web page, and 
 copy it.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Selecting Text

2014-12-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You can also control the chunks of text that are selected as you spread 
your fingers apart by using the roter to set it to characters, words or 
lines. In other words, if you set it to lines then additional lines will 
be selected as you move your fingers apart.


On 12/25/2014 09:13 PM, Brandon A. Olivares wrote:

Can you explain better how this gesture works? It’s not working for me.


On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, if you're not using a Bluetooth keyboard, dan the gesture is kind of freaky 
but to select a lot of text you put two fingers together you'll spread them 
apart and put them together until you have all the text that you want to 
select, if you're selecting on a keyboard you will do shift down arrow.

On Dec 25, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
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How do you select text on the iPhone? I know how to select all text in an edit 
field, but I just need to select some text in an app, or web page, and copy it.

Thanks,
Brandon

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Any thoughts on better GPS app for learning a new neighborhood stores Blind Square or Seeing Eye?

2014-12-25 Thread Brian Fischler
I am getting ready to move to a new neighborhood and will be having someone 
help me get familiar with all the stores in the neighborhood. I have used Blind 
Square GPS for years and really do like it. It’s not perfect, but I figure it 
is the best thing out there for us. I do find at times the accuracy is off, and 
was thinking about labeling a bunch of stores that would be useful to me when 
walking around. I have never used Seeing Eye GPS and do not have it but wads 
thinking about getting it for a month to see how I like it, as I thought the 
information the app provides about intersections would be quite beneficial. Has 
anyone used both of these apps and any thoughts about which is the better one 
for making a note of different stores in a neighborhood, and how accurate in 
terms of feet the app is? Any thoughts is appreciated.

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Joanne Chua
I'm surprise that the mods haven't interveen in this message.
Eitherhow, if you can't afford $74.95 or $99.95, what about consider
Prizmo for $4.95? its on sales at the moment, as part of the boxing
day itune store deals.

On 26/12/2014, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 On the point on whether you have the right to voice your opinion on the
 matter or not, I'll just point you to the statement at the bottom of
 every message on this list, where it says:

 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

 On 12/25/2014 09:05 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
 For me, it's not hatred for a person.  How could it be if I don't know
 the person?  It is the content of the original post that bothers me, and
 don't we all have a right to voice our opinion on the matter?  Thanks.

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 - Original Message - From: Victor Gouveia
 victor.gouv...@rogers.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:52 PM
 Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money
 somebody gift me please!


 I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.

 So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person, and
 while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad
 to
 say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that
 is
 very sad indeed.

 This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving this
 person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have
 been appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say,
 unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I
 think
 this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle it.

 Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see
 nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole
 purpose
 of helping others out.

 Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at
 this
 time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.


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 -Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
 gift me please!

 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly
 harsh
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to
 ask
 for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step
 outside
 of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From
 the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a
 native
 English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where
 asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it
 does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment
 rate
 among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that
 we
 have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn
 independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them
 empowered
 in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I
 understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to
 him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to
 explain
 that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't
 have
 what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find
 resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our
 tone of responses.

 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and
 the
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a
 more
 compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying
 perspectives,
 Terrie Terlau

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
 gift
 me please!

 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this 

Re: Period shortcut question

2014-12-25 Thread Brett
Hi,

Entering two spaces in a row is actually the shortcut to enter a period then a 
space.if this doesn't work for you, go into your keyboard settings and check 
that period shortcut is enabled.

Cheers,
Brett. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

 On 26 Dec 2014, at 2:08 pm, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Is there still a way to use the triple click on the spacebar to use the 
 period shortcut? 
 I am using the touch typing setting for VoiceOver. 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Ioana a
 
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RE: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Impossible to select a country from the combo box. When I thought I had united 
states, It switched to united kingdom
Very frustrating.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Ruby
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The ScanJig

Ok, ordered and going to give it a try. Was very easy to order on the site all 
fields read great.


From: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:01 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: The ScanJig

OK, I now have seen what I consider the Cadillac of stands.

I got the ScanJig at work Monday.  I used KNFB Reader to scan the setup 
instructions, free-hand, and was able to figure out the pieces and put it 
together.
I enjoy puzzles, so it was fun putting it together.  It didn't take more than 
about 5 or 10 minutes to figure it out without sighted help.
There are pictures of the pieces, so a sighted person could probably do it in 2.

The ScanJig costs $30.00.
It is made from hard plastic.  It is a bit thicker than the other stands but it 
looks way more durable.
It folds up into a box 13 by 9 and 1.5 inches thick.
The beauty of the ScanJig is that it can hold anything from a smart phone to a 
tablet.
It holds both the document and the device at an angle so there is less 
likelihood of casting a shadow over the document and it can capture the maximum 
of the room light or use the flash.  There are no lights needed on the device 
itself.

There is a movable Device Holder that snaps into one of four slots at various 
distances from the Document Shelf.  On the Device Holder, is a little shelf 
that snaps in to hold the phone or tablet.  There are 10 adjustment holes so 
you can get the optimum height of the device pointing at the document.
I found with both the iPhone 5s and the 6, that the first slot, which is 11.5 
inches from the document was the best position.  I also found that if I put the 
shelf on the device holder in the second hole from the top, I can get the 
entire document even if it has narrow margins.
There are some stick on pieces to help hold your device in place once you get 
the position where you want it.
There are also two clips that can hold a document on the document shelf, for 
example, a tri-fold letter that wants to curl, you can clip it in place so it 
holds it steady.

It is definitely more bulky when folded up than either the Giraffe Reader or 
the StandScan, but the fact that it will also hold a tablet from a full iPad to 
an iPad Mini or any smart phone I think gives it a big edge.  Not to mention it 
is made out of much stronger material and at a great price.

I'm going to paste the setup instructions below and also the link to their web 
site.

www.scanjig.comhttp://www.scanjig.com

Note: I added the focal distances to the setup instructions below.

ScanJig Set-up Instructions

Product Description:
The ScanJig is designed for easy tactile positioning of both a 
smart device and documents for correct focus,  alignment and field of view.
Once set up - the stand holds smart phones or tablets in a vertical 
portrait orientation and at an angle where the  device's touch screen interface 
is facing the user. The stand can also hold a document, in the same vertical  
portrait orientation, and angle, directly behind the smart phone or tablet.
The device holder can be adjusted to position your device's rear 
lens to point directly at the center of the  document.
Once the device is positioned in the optimum location, stops can be 
applied to lock in this position. Then your  phone or tablet can easily be 
placed in the same spot for each use.
The product's open design takes advantage of ambient light and 
helps avoid shadows. Further the device flash is  completely unobstructed if 
this feature is needed.

What is stored inside the ScanJig
*   1 - Smart Device Holder and Device Shelf - the device will sit on 
the shelf.
*   2 - Document Clips - to better hold creased documents or small 
items.
*   4 - Peal and Stick Device Stops - after your mobile device is 
positioned the stops help hold it in place and  provide an easy way to quickly 
use the same position again.
*   2 - Thin peal and stick spacers - if needed, these can be placed 
under your device for fine adjustment.

Initial Set-Up

1 Lift up on the latch at the front end of the ScanJig and open the cover all 
the way until it stops. The inside of  the cover is the Document Bed with a 
shelf on the bottom and a fence on the right. Place a document on the  shelf 
and against the fence.

2   Positioning your device camera for a full screen view of the document.

This initial set-up is done once, the optimum device position is 
then preserved by applying the peal and stick  stops for subsequent uses.
  

RE: The ScanJig

2014-12-25 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Even if you use down arrow and move to united states, it switches when pressing 
enter or just up arrowing to close the list.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Bullis
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The ScanJig

Try using alt down arrow to open the combo box so it won't activate when you 
scroll it.
Matthew
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
I know nothing of the Nigerian princess, Andy and to add to another post you 
made, yes he has an iPhone but that may have been a gift as well. For example, 
my nephew Luke got an iPad for Christmas so just because he has a phone/pad, 
doesn’t mean anything.
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 But what is the difference between this solicitation and that of the nigerian 
 princess? I might even decide to give this kind of gift in this situation, 
 but not based on a vague solicitation from a total stranger.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Jose Lomeli
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:56 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
 gift me please!
 
 Exactly well said! Please people leave the sarcasm behind it's not helping 
 you in any way!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Terrie,
 
 Beautifully said and if you hadn't done so I was going to do so myself, now 
 I will just support you and add a few thoughts.
 I agree that asking for this is not OK, but being married to a Filipina and 
 having travelled to several east Asian third-world countries I have seen 
 what not having anything means. Some of the blind folk on here who don't 
 have work and are on a very tight budget may think they are not so well off, 
 but I can assure them that their situation is nothing compared to that of 
 half the population of the planet. I know it doesn't mean anything to make 
 these comparisons, but given the several very ungraceful replies I thought 
 maybe a reminder of how good we have it living in free countries like the 
 US, Canada, England and so on.
 Given it's Christmas today I really wonder about the sarcasm in many of 
 these messages and it was probably expressed by people (at least some of 
 them) who may consider themselves Christians. If you do call yourself that 
 and if you have replied to that, maybe you need to examine your values.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
 gift me please!
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I 
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh 
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask 
 for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside 
 of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From 
 the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native 
 English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where 
 asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it 
 does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate 
 among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we 
 have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn 
 independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set that makes them empowered 
 in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I 
 understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to 
 him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain 
 that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't  have 
 what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find 
 resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our 
 tone of responses.
 
 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the 
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a 
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
 compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
 perspectives, Terrie Terlau
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift 
 me please!
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to purchase 
 the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco

For me, it is a matter of internet security and warning of a possible scam.
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


For me, it's not hatred for a person.  How could it be if I don't know the
person?  It is the content of the original post that bothers me, and don't
we all have a right to voice our opinion on the matter?  Thanks.

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From: Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!


I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.

So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person, and
while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad to
say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that is
very sad indeed.

This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving this
person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have
been appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say,
unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I think
this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle it.

Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see
nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole purpose
of helping others out.

Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at this
time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.


Victor Gouveia
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Training Coordinator
VIP Tech
Tel: 1-888-640-6661
Fax: 1-888-640-6669
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-Original Message- 
From: Terrie Terlau

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!

Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I
don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh
things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask
for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside
of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From
the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native
English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where
asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it
does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate
among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we
have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn
independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them empowered
in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I
understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to
him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain
that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't  have
what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find
resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our
tone of responses.

I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the
info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a
part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more
compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying
perspectives,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of ram kalia
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift
me please!

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
I held back because of financial issues, but the discount made it possible 
for me to obtain it.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Brandon A. Olivares

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


When I first heard about this app, I had to save for two months to be able 
to afford it. Everyone is in different circumstances, some better than 
others, and it was tough seeing others who were just able to plop down $100 
like that, but I had to be patient. I think it’s beneath our dignity as 
blind people to beg for anything, no matter the culture. An app is not a 
need; it’s a want. It’s a luxury. It’s a great thing to have that makes life 
easier, but we went for a long time without it. It’s better to be 
financially responsible and save what you need until you have enough. Just 
my $0.02.


On Dec 25, 2014, at 4:19 PM, May McDonald Homuth m...@canadianlynx.ca 
wrote:


I totally agree. This was totally bad taste. Why not ask your family and 
friends?


May and LD, Luna Moon!
www.canadianlynx.ca
m...@canadianlynx.ca


On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:45 AM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:

I don’t come on this list to listen to someone ask for money and gifts. 
IMO it’s not appropriate. I would love to have a lot of things, but never 
would I have the bad taste to go on a list like this and ask for it.



On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:50 AM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift


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new bluetooth speaker

2014-12-25 Thread Lori Dent
Hi all, 

This morning  my fiance  got me a Syren  bluetooth speaker for my iPhone 5. 
This bluetooth speaker is portable and you can carry it  or hold it with one 
hand. But what I like about this bluetooth speaker  it's very  light weight and 
very portable to  take with me anywhere  and I can put it in my purse.

It has a on and off button,volumes up and down, and the middle button is a all 
purpose button   that has the features  of a play/puls
 so   I can listen to music. Plus on this  middle  button that is a all purpose 
button  it also has the feature to answer phone calls. It was very easy to pair 
with my iPhone which I already  did. The Syren  bluetooth speaker sounds really 
good and it has a very good distance  raidious  to the speaker. 

I have a bluetooth headphone  which I love  to use but my bluetooth headphones 
are ones that go over my ears when wearing them. And I have used my bluetooth 
head phones when out walking listening to music while whalking but  when I came 
to a street crossing I would have to remove the head phones from my ears to be 
able to hear traffic and what was around me.

Well now I can carry my portable bluetooth speaker in my purse  and I can turn 
the volume up a little bit so when I'm walking  I can still listen to music  or 
answer a call if it comes in and still listen to the traffic and  my 
surroundings  and be able to cross a street  safely. 

I'm really impressed with this Syren portable blutetooth speaker .  Take care.

Lori and the Gipper

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
I would like to ask you, what do you entitle “bashers and flamers'
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.
 
 So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person, and 
 while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad to 
 say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that is 
 very sad indeed.
 
 This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving this 
 person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have been 
 appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say, 
 unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I think 
 this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle it.
 
 Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see 
 nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole purpose 
 of helping others out.
 
 Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at this 
 time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.
 
 
 Victor Gouveia
 Vice-President
 Training Coordinator
 VIP Tech
 Tel: 1-888-640-6661
 Fax: 1-888-640-6669
 Home: victor.gouv...@rogers.com
 Work: viptrain...@rogers.com
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 -Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
 gift me please!
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I 
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh 
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask 
 for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside 
 of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the 
 name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native 
 English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where 
 asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it 
 does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate 
 among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we 
 have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn 
 independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set  that makes them empowered 
 in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I 
 understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to 
 him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain 
 that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't  have 
 what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find 
 resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our 
 tone of responses.
 
 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the 
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a 
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more 
 compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying 
 perspectives,
 Terrie Terlau
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me 
 please!
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Re: tune in radio

2014-12-25 Thread BBS
I live in Canada and searched for Tunein Radio in the app store. It's there. 
Don't know if the paid and free versions are still there though. I saw one 
so assuming that both paid and free versions are available.


Shawn
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From: Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: tune in radio


To my knowledge tunein is no longer available in the Canadian store but, for 
those who have it, it works great.




Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:

sorry for this nutty question, does tune in radio work in Canada?  I ask 
this not to sound cheap but if it costs money, I don’t want to buy it if 
it won’t work here and if not, I don’t want to download an app where I can’t 
access the content. Again, sorry if this is way too senile sounding.

On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Corey Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote:

I completely agree

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:

 I'm not talking about the slender silky way the phone fits into your
hand... I've been listening to back shows of Fresh Air and other things 
and
it's just wonderful how easy it is to access programs/shows. Through 
Tune-In
Radio. It's instantaneous once you find the station or programs you want 
to
sample. I find using the phone for this sort of thing works far better 
than

my computer, IE and Jaws ever could. Happy holidays everyone.

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Re: tune in radio

2014-12-25 Thread BBS
An update to my post, There used to be a Tunein and Tunein Radio Pro but 
when I looked in my purchases to see if I can download the pro version, all 
I got was a blank screen. So it looks like only the free version is 
available.


Shawn
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: tune in radio


I live in Canada and searched for Tunein Radio in the app store. It's there.
Don't know if the paid and free versions are still there though. I saw one
so assuming that both paid and free versions are available.

Shawn
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From: Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: tune in radio


To my knowledge tunein is no longer available in the Canadian store but, for
those who have it, it works great.



Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 25, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:

sorry for this nutty question, does tune in radio work in Canada?  I ask 
this not to sound cheap but if it costs money, I don’t want to buy it if 
it won’t work here and if not, I don’t want to download an app where I can’t 
access the content. Again, sorry if this is way too senile sounding.

On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Corey Cook corey.coo...@gmail.com wrote:

I completely agree

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 25, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Deidre Muccio deim...@verizon.net wrote:

 I'm not talking about the slender silky way the phone fits into your
hand... I've been listening to back shows of Fresh Air and other things 
and
it's just wonderful how easy it is to access programs/shows. Through 
Tune-In
Radio. It's instantaneous once you find the station or programs you want 
to
sample. I find using the phone for this sort of thing works far better 
than

my computer, IE and Jaws ever could. Happy holidays everyone.

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread ram kalia
hello friends sorry for the inconvience caused actually my friend
wrote this message  using my id he was joking and nothing at all  I
kicked  him  he was just playing and nothing serious at all  just
holidays funny activity sorry ignore this and  happy xmas and new year
to all take it in a good sense and ignore love you all.  I have knfb
already  sorry for my friends behavior .

On 12/26/14, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:
 I would like to ask you, what do you entitle “bashers and flamers'
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com
 wrote:

 I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.

 So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person, and
 while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad to
 say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that
 is very sad indeed.

 This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving this
 person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have
 been appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say,
 unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I
 think this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle it.

 Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see
 nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole
 purpose of helping others out.

 Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at
 this time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.


 Victor Gouveia
 Vice-President
 Training Coordinator
 VIP Tech
 Tel: 1-888-640-6661
 Fax: 1-888-640-6669
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 -Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
 gift me please!

 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to
 ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step
 outside of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a
 moment. From the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may
 not be a native English speaker and may be from another country and
 another culture where asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad
 connotations that it does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a
 60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending on how you figure
 the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have not had the
 opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set
 that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would like to
 explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but
 that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I
 would also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us,
 blind and sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send
 compassion and hope that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I
 also hope that we as a list change our tone of responses.

 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a
 more compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying
 perspectives,
 Terrie Terlau

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift
 me please!

 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread ram kalia
sorry friends don't fight  my friend screwd  all  I already scolded
him please understand the mind of college teenager   being adults you
all please ignore and enjoy  don't fight for any unintentionally done
mistake he is also feeling sorry for this . do forgive him and merry
xmas and happy new year to all .

On 12/26/14, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends sorry for the inconvience caused actually my friend
 wrote this message  using my id he was joking and nothing at all  I
 kicked  him  he was just playing and nothing serious at all  just
 holidays funny activity sorry ignore this and  happy xmas and new year
 to all take it in a good sense and ignore love you all.  I have knfb
 already  sorry for my friends behavior .

 On 12/26/14, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:
 I would like to ask you, what do you entitle “bashers and flamers'
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com
 wrote:

 I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.

 So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person,
 and
 while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad
 to
 say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that
 is very sad indeed.

 This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving
 this
 person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have
 been appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say,
 unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I
 think this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle
 it.

 Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see
 nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole
 purpose of helping others out.

 Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at
 this time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.


 Victor Gouveia
 Vice-President
 Training Coordinator
 VIP Tech
 Tel: 1-888-640-6661
 Fax: 1-888-640-6669
 Home: victor.gouv...@rogers.com
 Work: viptrain...@rogers.com
 Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities

 -Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money
 somebody
 gift me please!

 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly
 harsh
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to
 ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step
 outside of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a
 moment. From the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may
 not be a native English speaker and may be from another country and
 another culture where asking for gifts from strangers may not have the
 bad
 connotations that it does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a
 60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending on how you figure
 the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have not had the
 opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set
 that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would like to
 explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but
 that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask.
 I
 would also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us,
 blind and sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send
 compassion and hope that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I
 also hope that we as a list change our tone of responses.

 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and
 the
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such
 a
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a
 more compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying
 perspectives,
 Terrie Terlau

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
 gift
 me please!

 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Kerri G
I cannot believe this. Someone was willing to send you money for this and it’s 
a joke? 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:40 PM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 sorry friends don't fight  my friend screwd  all  I already scolded
 him please understand the mind of college teenager   being adults you
 all please ignore and enjoy  don't fight for any unintentionally done
 mistake he is also feeling sorry for this . do forgive him and merry
 xmas and happy new year to all .
 
 On 12/26/14, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends sorry for the inconvience caused actually my friend
 wrote this message  using my id he was joking and nothing at all  I
 kicked  him  he was just playing and nothing serious at all  just
 holidays funny activity sorry ignore this and  happy xmas and new year
 to all take it in a good sense and ignore love you all.  I have knfb
 already  sorry for my friends behavior .
 
 On 12/26/14, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:
 I would like to ask you, what do you entitle “bashers and flamers'
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com
 wrote:
 
 I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.
 
 So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person,
 and
 while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad
 to
 say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that
 is very sad indeed.
 
 This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving
 this
 person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have
 been appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say,
 unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I
 think this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle
 it.
 
 Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see
 nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole
 purpose of helping others out.
 
 Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at
 this time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.
 
 
 Victor Gouveia
 Vice-President
 Training Coordinator
 VIP Tech
 Tel: 1-888-640-6661
 Fax: 1-888-640-6669
 Home: victor.gouv...@rogers.com
 Work: viptrain...@rogers.com
 Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities
 
 -Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money
 somebody
 gift me please!
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I
 don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly
 harsh
 things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to
 ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step
 outside of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a
 moment. From the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may
 not be a native English speaker and may be from another country and
 another culture where asking for gifts from strangers may not have the
 bad
 connotations that it does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a
 60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending on how you figure
 the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have not had the
 opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set
 that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would like to
 explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but
 that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask.
 I
 would also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us,
 blind and sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send
 compassion and hope that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I
 also hope that we as a list change our tone of responses.
 
 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and
 the
 info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such
 a
 part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a
 more compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying
 perspectives,
 Terrie Terlau
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of ram kalia
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
 gift
 me please!
 
 Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
 purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
 gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
 it on this xmas or as a new year gift
 
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Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Andy Baracco
But you can understand why we might have thought that you were perhaps the 
victim of a hacker, malware, etc. This could be a teachable moment for you, 
your cousin, etc.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: ram kalia

Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody 
gift me please!


sorry friends don't fight  my friend screwd  all  I already scolded
him please understand the mind of college teenager   being adults you
all please ignore and enjoy  don't fight for any unintentionally done
mistake he is also feeling sorry for this . do forgive him and merry
xmas and happy new year to all .

On 12/26/14, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:

hello friends sorry for the inconvience caused actually my friend
wrote this message  using my id he was joking and nothing at all  I
kicked  him  he was just playing and nothing serious at all  just
holidays funny activity sorry ignore this and  happy xmas and new year
to all take it in a good sense and ignore love you all.  I have knfb
already  sorry for my friends behavior .

On 12/26/14, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:

I would like to ask you, what do you entitle “bashers and flamers'

On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com
wrote:

I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.

So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this person,
and
while whether his request was appropriate on this list or not, I am sad
to
say that the bashers and flamers will not be dealt with at all, and that
is very sad indeed.

This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are giving
this
person all kinds of grief for posting something that may or may not have
been appropriate.  None of us lowly list members have the power to say,
unequivocally whether this person's post was appropriate or not, so I
think this thread should end until the moderators get back and handle
it.

Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, and see
nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for the sole
purpose of helping others out.

Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate at
this time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.


Victor Gouveia
Vice-President
Training Coordinator
VIP Tech
Tel: 1-888-640-6661
Fax: 1-888-640-6669
Home: victor.gouv...@rogers.com
Work: viptrain...@rogers.com
Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities

-Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money
somebody
gift me please!

Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I
don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly
harsh
things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to
ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step
outside of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a
moment. From the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may
not be a native English speaker and may be from another country and
another culture where asking for gifts from strangers may not have the
bad
connotations that it does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a
60-75% unemployment rate among blind people, depending on how you figure
the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have not had the
opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set
that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, I would like to
explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but
that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask.
I
would also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us,
blind and sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I send
compassion and hope that Ram can find resources to get what is needed. I
also hope that we as a list change our tone of responses.

I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and
the
info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such
a
part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a
more compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying
perspectives,
Terrie Terlau

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of ram kalia
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift
me please!

Hello friends  i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way  to get it as a
gift or free i really need thispleasepleaseplease  somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift

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RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please!

2014-12-25 Thread Cristóbal
More likely he didn't realise the dust up his post would cause and how poorly 
it would be received. Whether a friend did indeed do it, which I don’t' really 
believe at all, hopefully this whole thread will go away now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kerri G
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift 
me please!

I cannot believe this. Someone was willing to send you money for this and it’s 
a joke? 
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:40 PM, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 sorry friends don't fight  my friend screwd  all  I already scolded
 him please understand the mind of college teenager   being adults you
 all please ignore and enjoy  don't fight for any unintentionally done 
 mistake he is also feeling sorry for this . do forgive him and merry 
 xmas and happy new year to all .
 
 On 12/26/14, ram kalia rameshkalia...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello friends sorry for the inconvience caused actually my friend 
 wrote this message  using my id he was joking and nothing at all  I 
 kicked  him  he was just playing and nothing serious at all  just 
 holidays funny activity sorry ignore this and  happy xmas and new 
 year to all take it in a good sense and ignore love you all.  I have 
 knfb already  sorry for my friends behavior .
 
 On 12/26/14, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:
 I would like to ask you, what do you entitle “bashers and flamers'
 On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Victor Gouveia 
 victor.gouv...@rogers.com
 wrote:
 
 I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.
 
 So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this 
 person, and while whether his request was appropriate on this list 
 or not, I am sad to say that the bashers and flamers will not be 
 dealt with at all, and that is very sad indeed.
 
 This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are 
 giving this person all kinds of grief for posting something that 
 may or may not have been appropriate.  None of us lowly list 
 members have the power to say, unequivocally whether this person's 
 post was appropriate or not, so I think this thread should end 
 until the moderators get back and handle it.
 
 Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, 
 and see nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for 
 the sole purpose of helping others out.
 
 Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate 
 at this time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud.
 
 
 Victor Gouveia
 Vice-President
 Training Coordinator
 VIP Tech
 Tel: 1-888-640-6661
 Fax: 1-888-640-6669
 Home: victor.gouv...@rogers.com
 Work: viptrain...@rogers.com
 Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities
 
 -Original Message- From: Terrie Terlau
 Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money 
 somebody gift me please!
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, 
 but I don't  think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some 
 fairly harsh things to say about ram's request. I totally agree 
 that it is not OK to ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this 
 list. However, let's step outside of our own United States shoes 
 and into someone else's for a moment. From the name and the English 
 usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native English speaker 
 and may be from another country and another culture where asking 
 for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it 
 does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% 
 unemployment rate among blind people, depending on how you figure 
 the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have not had 
 the opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the 
 skill set that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, 
 I would like to explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for 
 the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not a 
 good idea to ask.
 I
 would also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many 
 of us, blind and sighted, don't  have what we need in this world. I 
 send compassion and hope that Ram can find resources to get what is 
 needed. I also hope that we as a list change our tone of responses.
 
 I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list 
 and the info and help that you share. I have learned so much and 
 have felt such a part of a supportive community. Please let's think 
 about saying no in a more compassionate way.
 Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with 
 varying perspectives, Terrie Terlau
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of ram kalia
 Sent: 

Re: Period shortcut question

2014-12-25 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
I've checked and the double-tap keyboard shortcut is on. I could not make it 
work with keybord using touch-typing. 
Any suggestions? 
I do following:
1. I find space and lift finger and quickly double-tap. 
An other method I tried before ios 7 is to find space and put an other finger 
on screen to avoid it being inputed. Then I triple-tap which should be 
equivalent to double-tap for vo. 
No result. 

Thanks for any suggestions. 

Best,


Ioana




Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Entering two spaces in a row is actually the shortcut to enter a period then 
 a space.if this doesn't work for you, go into your keyboard settings and 
 check that period shortcut is enabled.
 
 Cheers,
 Brett. 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 26 Dec 2014, at 2:08 pm, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Is there still a way to use the triple click on the spacebar to use the 
 period shortcut? 
 I am using the touch typing setting for VoiceOver. 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Ioana a
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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KNFB Reader

2014-12-25 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all
Changed subject and started a new thread.
While the KNFB Reader came out on or shortly after iOS 8 day, it took me 
till Christmas to get it. I was patient like anybody else. I thought 
Christmas was the right time to get it plus it was on sale at about half 
price. I'm going to try and have a go with it today or over the weekend 
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Re: KNFB Reader

2014-12-25 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi, the sales finished yesterday, 25 december. It is now back to $99.95.



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 On 26 Dec 2014, at 17:02, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
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 Hi all
 Changed subject and started a new thread.
 While the KNFB Reader came out on or shortly after iOS 8 day, it took me till 
 Christmas to get it. I was patient like anybody else. I thought Christmas was 
 the right time to get it plus it was on sale at about half price. I'm going 
 to try and have a go with it today or over the weekend to get the codes for 
 my various gift cards I received as presents yesterday.
 
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Re: KNFB Reader

2014-12-25 Thread Eden Kizer
I don't know it might not be over for the West coast yet as it's not 
midnight here yet, but I can't confirm since already bought so sorry.


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On 12/25/2014 10:39 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:

Hi, the sales finished yesterday, 25 december. It is now back to $99.95.



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Changed subject and started a new thread.
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try and have a go with it today or over the weekend to get the codes for my 
various gift cards I received as presents yesterday.

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anybody found an effective dictionary

2014-12-25 Thread Dean Martineau
I haven't looked into this for a while, but when I did, I found that it was
cumbersome at best to use foreign-language dictionaries, because every word
in every definition was a hyperlink.  Does anybody know of a dictionary,
either multi-lingual or monolingual, that is not set up this way, so that
one can read the definitions efficiently?

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