RE: callendar program me with nag me every minute?

[Jenny Dawson]

Perhaps a wife?



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Subject: callendar program me with nag me every minute?

Hi all,




Does anyone know of a program like 


alarmed

that has the relentless nag me feature?

I like this feature since if you're in another room you hear the alarm for the 
reminder going off till you do something about it.








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callendar program me with nag me every minute?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,


Does anyone know of a program like

alarmed

that has the relentless nag me feature?

I like this feature since if you're in another room you hear the alarm 
for the reminder going off till you do something about it.





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a...@damorris.com




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is there a better way to send emails

[wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net]

hi all,
Usually when I send an email I go into my contacts, open up the contact and 
find the email address that I want to centu, and then selected. Is there a 
better way? Paragraph also is there a way to send emails while in the email 
account I can't seem to find the compose button unless I have a messaged 
opened. I am using Yahoo that comes with AT Thank you all very much and have 
a nice night, God bless, Wren Langley

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sending messages from iPad

[wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net]

hi all,
Thank you for the help.
Is there anyway to set my iPad so that I can text anyone, not just people from 
my iPhone. My iPhone is not working right now. It is the only phone I have. If 
there's not a way to do it in the messages app is there another app that I 
could download and install on my iPad that would do this? Thank you again and 
God bless, Wren Langley

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mistake in the from address

[wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net]

Sent from my iPadhi all, I forgot to change the from address to the SBC global 
address instead of the iCloud one. If I make my SBC global account my default 
email account, will my iCloud things still get knocked up? Thank you very much.
God bless, Wren Langleyhi all, I forgot to change the from address to the SBC 
global address instead of the iCloud one. If I make my SBC global account my 
default email account, will my iCloud things still get backed up? Thank you 
very much.
God bless, Wren Langyley

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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Richard Turner]

Here is the ScanJig info, plus a link to my page describing other stand options 
just in case.
ScanJig Pro Plus, $49.00

ScanJig comes in a new "Pro" version that has a bracket to allow you to turn 
the ScanJig on its back and use it to scan books. See the link above or call 
their number: 800-390-1125

And here is the link to info about other stands too:
http://www.turner42.x10host.com/ScanningStands.html

"

"The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  they 
are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor

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> On May 16, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Jewel  wrote:
> 
> I am just about the purchase the KNFB Reader, and a useful adjunct would be 
> the Scanjig.  Where can 
> I purchase it?
> 
>Jewel
> 
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> From: "Arnold Schmidt" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:50 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?
> 
> I highly recommend KNFB Reader, with the following caveat.  I, too, have had
> poor results holding my phone myself.  But I always thought the problem to
> be me, not the app, being that I knew others who could get it to work free
> hand.  So, I bought the Scanjig, and it made KNFB Reader come alive, as it
> were, for me.It usually gets results that are at least as good,
> oftentimes better, than my many times more expensive Openbook software.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Krister Ekstrom" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?
> 
> 
> Paul, I’m glad i’m not the only one who doesn’t get the thing to work.
> /Krister
> 
>> 16 maj 2016 kl. 20:21 skrev Paul Hunt :
>> 
>> Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl
>> camera. I also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt
>> guidance features to get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't
>> believe there's a check orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, All!
>>> 
>>> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For
>>> years, I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought
>>> that was the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB
>>> Reader has it all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also
>>> tried Prizmo and had to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.
>>> For one reason or another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone
>>> eluded to earlier, when you have a page that's longer than the standard 8
>>> x 11 sheet, it's hard to put into the StandScan box, and reading it with
>>> the KNFB Reader was so much easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2
>>> cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Esther Levegnale
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
>>> 
 On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin 
 wrote:
 
 Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for
 years now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and
 how accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands
 move slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought
 for this reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
 But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how
 good and accurate of a job it did!!
 
 Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my
 computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my
 scanning needs!!
 The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly
 better, just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB
 Reader makes scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be
 more efficient in getting things done.
 
 Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the
 cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the
 price.  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely
 worth the cost.
 On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features,
 like being able to save documents to Dropbox.
 
 Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I
 have had with the app.
 I hope this has been helpful.
 
 Chris
 
 
> On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Everyone.
> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
> you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?

iPhone seems to have died during update

[wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net]

hi all,
Thank you for the help
If you get a duplicate duplicate of this I apologize. I looked in my sent 
messages and I did not see this one. The iPhone told me the update would begin 
in so many seconds, and then stopped. It never rebooted after that. I connected 
it to the computer and try to update through iTunes, which I do have the latest 
version of, but iTunes said that there was a problem updating the phone. I 
tried several times, but each time iTunes kept saying that it was downloading 
software for the update but then trying to start the update process over. If 
anyone can help I would really appreciate it. The iPhone is the only phone I 
have.
God bless,
Wren Langley

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Re: Brailliant bluetooth constant messsage

[Jennie Facer]

I don't think there is a way to get around it. I have the same thing with my 
Focus 40. I also have it with my Braille Sense U2. It is just trying to connect 
your devices. That's all. A little annoyance, but an easy one to get away. 

Jenn

Jennie Facer

> On May 16, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> Hello, whenever I go into the Bluetooth settings for whatever I want to 
> accomplish, the alert comes up with Humanware Brailliant display, an OK 
> button saying it's not found. I don't always have this display turned on and 
> findable, and it's only this device that always has this alert. Humanware say 
> it's Apple's message, but I wonder if there's a setting I can change to not 
> get this notification every time? The only solution Humanware gave was to 
> forget the device, but it was a pain to get it paired in the first place.
> Thanks for any help.
> Matthew
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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Jewel]

I am just about the purchase the KNFB Reader, and a useful adjunct would be the 
Scanjig.  Where can 
I purchase it?

Jewel

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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 9:50 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

I highly recommend KNFB Reader, with the following caveat.  I, too, have had
poor results holding my phone myself.  But I always thought the problem to
be me, not the app, being that I knew others who could get it to work free
hand.  So, I bought the Scanjig, and it made KNFB Reader come alive, as it
were, for me.It usually gets results that are at least as good,
oftentimes better, than my many times more expensive Openbook software.

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?


Paul, I’m glad i’m not the only one who doesn’t get the thing to work.
/Krister

> 16 maj 2016 kl. 20:21 skrev Paul Hunt :
>
> Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl
> camera. I also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt
> guidance features to get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't
> believe there's a check orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.
>
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, All!
>>
>> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For
>> years, I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought
>> that was the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB
>> Reader has it all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also
>> tried Prizmo and had to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.
>> For one reason or another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone
>> eluded to earlier, when you have a page that's longer than the standard 8
>> x 11 sheet, it's hard to put into the StandScan box, and reading it with
>> the KNFB Reader was so much easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2
>> cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
>>
>> Esther Levegnale
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
>>
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for
>>> years now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and
>>> how accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands
>>> move slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought
>>> for this reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
>>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how
>>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>>>
>>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my
>>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my
>>> scanning needs!!
>>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly
>>> better, just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB
>>> Reader makes scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be
>>> more efficient in getting things done.
>>>
>>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the
>>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the
>>> price.  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely
>>> worth the cost.
>>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features,
>>> like being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>>>
>>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I
>>> have had with the app.
>>> I hope this has been helpful.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
 On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:

 Hi, Everyone.
 I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
 you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
 options that are VO- and blind-friendly?

 I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
 the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
 bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
 toward other things.

 I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the
 other.

 Thanks,
 Dani

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Re: A Good Calendar App

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello All,

Just a little calendar tip.
Just like you can use Siri to create a calendar event, you can also use Siri to 
tell you many things regarding your calendar and the events you have coming up.
For example, you can ask Siri things like:

What is on my schedule today?  And Siri will list the events and times of what 
is on your calendar for that day.
Or, What is on my schedule for the week?  And Siri will tell you what is on 
your calendar for the week.
Now one thing I do at the first of each month is to get Siri to tell me the 
upcoming birthdays for that month.  The key to finding things is to make sure 
you say it correctly.  If I ask Siri what birthdays are scheduled for June, 
then Siri will answer that there is none.  And that is because for each persons 
birthday, I enter on my calendar the person's name and the wore birthday, not 
birthdays.  So if I ask Siri, what birthday do I have scheduled for June, then 
Siri will search the June calendar for every event that has the word birthday 
in it and list it out.
Again, Siri can be very helpful in searching your calendar, but you have to 
give Siri the correct words to search for.

Like I can ask Siri, when is my next haircut scheduled?  And Siri will search 
the calendar for the next mention of the word haircut, then she will tell me 
the date and time.
So as long as you have an internet connection, Siri can really help you find 
things on your calendar very quickly.

I hope this has been helpful!

Chris


> On May 16, 2016, at 9:44 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Monni, I love fantastical.  When you open the app there’s a new event 
> button at the top right of the screen. You write a sentence something like 
> this:  “doctor’s appointment on july 3, 2016 at 2 pm”  And it will enter the 
> information on the correct date.  I find it very voice-over friendly.  Often 
> I use Siri  to enter a calendar appointment and it shows up in both the 
> native calendar app and fantastical.  I’ve not had much luck finding 
> appointments on the native app, but it’s simple on fantastical.  You find the 
> date and double tap it.  Then go down toward the bottom of the screen and 
> you’ll find the list of events for that day. Hope this helps.  Probably 
> someone can give you better information, so don’t hesitate to ask.
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Monica Jones
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 4:46 AM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: A Good Calendar App
>  
> I don’t like the native calendar app. I’ve heard that Fantastical2 is great, 
> but then I heard it was busted with an update. Before I spend money on it, 
> can you tell me if this is so or if they fixed the problem if there was one 
> in the first place.
> Monni, the coffee gal
> Twitter, @Monni52
> 
> Facebook, Monica Rose Jones
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Brailliant bluetooth constant messsage

[Matthew Bullis]

Hello, whenever I go into the Bluetooth settings for whatever I want to 
accomplish, the alert comes up with Humanware Brailliant display, an OK button 
saying it's not found. I don't always have this display turned on and findable, 
and it's only this device that always has this alert. Humanware say it's 
Apple's message, but I wonder if there's a setting I can change to not get this 
notification every time? The only solution Humanware gave was to forget the 
device, but it was a pain to get it paired in the first place.
Thanks for any help.
Matthew

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Re: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone

[Jennie Facer]

Hi all,

For some reason, the u2 had the code 1234 already paired in there, so after I 
entered that code, it paired itself again. Thank you Karl and Scott. It now 
works again. Have a great week! Thanks again for your help. 

Jenn

Jennie Facer

> On May 16, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Karl Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennie,
>  
> I just paired my U2 with my iPhone and it works basically like you say. Are 
> you sure you have blue tooth turned on in the U2? As soon as I hit pair on 
> the phone I got a message asking me to enter a pin on the U2 and I entered 
> the same one as on the iPhone which in my case was . I’m not sure why you 
> aren’t getting the pin message on your U2. You might try resetting the unit 
> to see if it clears up the problem. Let me know if it works or not and I’ll 
> try to help you further if I can.
>  
> Karl
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:10 PM
> To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
> Subject: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> I am trying to pair my Braille Sense to my iPhone again. I had it once but 
> lost it. Here is what I did:
> 1. Put the u2 in terminal mode.
> 2. Went to Braille settings in VO.
> 3. Double tapped on Braille Sense u2 not paired.
> 4. Entered  for my security code.
> 5. Double tapped on pair.
>  
> Now it just says pairing unsuccessful. The u2 won't prompt me for the code to 
> put in. Can anyone lie Karl Smith chime in on this? Am I doing something 
> wrong?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Jenn
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> Get Outlook for iOS
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RE: A Good Calendar App

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi Monni, I love fantastical.  When you open the app there’s a new event button 
at the top right of the screen. You write a sentence something like this:  
“doctor’s appointment on july 3, 2016 at 2 pm”  And it will enter the 
information on the correct date.  I find it very voice-over friendly.  Often I 
use Siri  to enter a calendar appointment and it shows up in both the native 
calendar app and fantastical.  I’ve not had much luck finding appointments on 
the native app, but it’s simple on fantastical.  You find the date and double 
tap it.  Then go down toward the bottom of the screen and you’ll find the list 
of events for that day. Hope this helps.  Probably someone can give you better 
information, so don’t hesitate to ask.

God bless!

Paula and Boston

 

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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 4:46 AM
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Subject: A Good Calendar App

 

I don’t like the native calendar app. I’ve heard that Fantastical2 is great, 
but then I heard it was busted with an update. Before I spend money on it, can 
you tell me if this is so or if they fixed the problem if there was one in the 
first place.

Monni, the coffee gal
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Re: aipoly

[rajmund]

hello,
When I took a picture of my cat, who's furry, she was identified as a grey cat 
on textile, which was the bed. I took the picture from the same angle.?  ∈

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 17 May 2016, at 1:48 am, Jewel  wrote:
> 
> I am not, personally, familiar with the Sphinx cat but I would say that 
> mistaking a photo of the skin:  minus the rest of the cat:  for that of a 
> bristly human being wouldn't be too far from the mark.
> If you had let TTS see that it was a cat, I bet that it would have got the 
> description correct.
>Jewel
> 
> From: rajmund
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: aipoly
> 
> Hello,
> Tap Tap See has accuracy issues. I got a swinks (furless) cat, and took a 
> picture of him. tap tap see said human skin. I laughed so badly o that one. 
> But both are free, I'd play with both.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>> On 16 May 2016, at 2:44 pm, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It is a free app, so try it out.
>> Personally, I think TapTapSee does a better job with most things including 
>> colors because it will identify, for example, a man’s shirt with blue and 
>> white flowers, etc.
>>  
>> AIPoly is teachable, though, so it will likely get better in time.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jeremy Gilley
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: aipoly
>>  
>> Good morning all.
>> So, apparently aipoly made the news on how this could help the visually 
>> impaired.
>> The description of the app I guess also mentions that it is a color 
>> identifier?
>> Was just curious if anyone has used this app and how good it was?
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RE: Request for Blue Tooth Recommendations

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Voyager Edge is very nice and probably as good as it gets with respect to 
latency, but even with Bluetooth 4.0 it is still there and more or less 
noticeable. The Edge is very comfortable, nice controls and it sounds good, you 
will sound OK to the other person, again probably as good as with anything. In 
a regular phone call the quality is not such a big deal, but if you use it for 
Facetime, Skype, Whats App or other high-quality Voip calls you will sound 
comparibly bad to the other person if they compared it to doing the call with a 
wired headset like the Apple Earpods.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mauricio Molina
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Request for Blue Tooth Recommendations

Hi All,

I know that this topic has been discussed before, but since I was not in the 
market, I admit I did not pay the utmost attention. Of course what I am wanting 
to know is which blue tooth ear pieces are recommended with use with an iPhone? 
I’ve heard much banter back and forth about the Plantronics Legend and Edge; 
are these good choices? Back when I had an older iPhone, it may have been the 
3GS, I could not tolerate the latency when using a blue tooth device so 
abandoned this option. I am now reconsidering the blue tooth option and would 
like to know which are preferred.

Thanks in advance.

Mauricio
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Re: aipoly

[Jewel]

I am not, personally, familiar with the Sphinx cat but I would say that 
mistaking a photo of the skin:  minus the rest of the cat:  for that of a 
bristly human being wouldn't be too far from the mark.
If you had let TTS see that it was a cat, I bet that it would have got the 
description correct.
   Jewel


From: rajmund 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: aipoly


Hello,
Tap Tap See has accuracy issues. I got a swinks (furless) cat, and took a 
picture of him. tap tap see said human skin. I laughed so badly on that one. 
But both are free, I'd play with both.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 16 May 2016, at 2:44 pm, Richard Turner  wrote:


  It is a free app, so try it out.

  Personally, I think TapTapSee does a better job with most things including 
colors because it will identify, for example, a man’s shirt with blue and white 
flowers, etc.

   

  AIPoly is teachable, though, so it will likely get better in time.

   

  Richard

   

   

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Jeremy Gilley
  Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: aipoly

   

  Good morning all.

  So, apparently aipoly made the news on how this could help the visually 
impaired.

  The description of the app I guess also mentions that it is a color 
identifier?

  Was just curious if anyone has used this app and how good it was?

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Re: aipoly

[Jewel]

I love Tap Tap See and have found it, immensely, helpful.  It is also very 
diplomatic in how it describes something, especially, hair colour.
In my balmy days, I had fair hair, but, now, woe is me, the colour reflects my 
age, but if TTS happens to catch sight of me in a photo, the description is, 
invariably, of a person with brown hair.  The word gray never passes its 
electronic lips, well not as far as hair colour is concerned.
When I was extolling the virtues of the app, perhaps on this list, shortly 
after I had downloaded it, one lady said that if she photographs her carpet and 
the resulting description is of it being antique, she knows that it is time it 
had a good shampoo. 
Recently, I took a photo in my backyard and the description that came back was 
"trailer".
I wondered what it could be seeing because I did not have a trailer in the 
yard, but when I investigated to identify what it, actually, was I discovered a 
child's tricycle that, many years ago, had been adapted to be pulled by Buck, 
one of my former guide dogs.
When I had a small order of groceries to collect from town, I would hitch Buck, 
a Newfoundland dog, to the single shaft that had replaced the handle bars and 
he would pull it into town, while I walked alongside holding the shaft, so it 
was a trailer, but, in appearance, was a million miles away from a regular one 
nevertheless, TTS had recognised it for what it was:  a truly remarkable show 
of detection I thought.

 Jewel

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 1:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: aipoly


It is a free app, so try it out.

Personally, I think TapTapSee does a better job with most things including 
colors because it will identify, for example, a man’s shirt with blue and white 
flowers, etc.

 

AIPoly is teachable, though, so it will likely get better in time.

 

Richard

 

 

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Jeremy Gilley
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: aipoly

 

Good morning all.

So, apparently aipoly made the news on how this could help the visually 
impaired.

The description of the app I guess also mentions that it is a color identifier?

Was just curious if anyone has used this app and how good it was?

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Re: iPhone SE

[Marie]

My IPhone 6 does the exact thing.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE

That's to do with the proximity senser I presume,  but don't know what 
options there are to control its behaviour.


R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Sweeney" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: iPhone SE


Hi All,

Something different with the SE that I can't figure out how to fix.  When
the phone is laying face down on the table, and a notification like from
twitter comes in the phone will play the alert tone but VO will not read the
alert unless I pick up the phone.  If the pphone is laying face up on the
table, all alerts are read as they always have been.  Anyone know what they
have changed on the iPhone SE to stop VO from reading the alerts when the
face is covered?



Thx -Steve



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Request for Blue Tooth Recommendations

[Mauricio Molina]

Hi All, 

 

I know that this topic has been discussed before, but since I was not in the
market, I admit I did not pay the utmost attention. Of course what I am
wanting to know is which blue tooth ear pieces are recommended with use with
an iPhone? I've heard much banter back and forth about the Plantronics
Legend and Edge; are these good choices? Back when I had an older iPhone, it
may have been the 3GS, I could not tolerate the latency when using a blue
tooth device so abandoned this option. I am now reconsidering the blue tooth
option and would like to know which are preferred. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

Mauricio

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Re: aipoly

[Marie]

In my experience, all this type of app have issues and at times the results can 
be extremely funny. when Aipoly tries to do color identification, it sometimes 
spits out 10 or 15 different colors when pointed at a solid color object. And 
when it thought my toaster oven was a TV screen I tend to doubt it’s accuracy. 
I find Tat tap see better but still far from perfect. 
I have had some really good experiences lately with Be My Eyes.
Marie


From: rajmund 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: aipoly

Hello,
Tap Tap See has accuracy issues. I got a swinks (furless) cat, and took a 
picture of him. tap tap see said human skin. I laughed so badly on that one. 
But both are free, I'd play with both.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 16 May 2016, at 2:44 pm, Richard Turner  wrote:


  It is a free app, so try it out.

  Personally, I think TapTapSee does a better job with most things including 
colors because it will identify, for example, a man’s shirt with blue and white 
flowers, etc.

   

  AIPoly is teachable, though, so it will likely get better in time.

   

  Richard

   

   

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  Subject: aipoly

   

  Good morning all.

  So, apparently aipoly made the news on how this could help the visually 
impaired.

  The description of the app I guess also mentions that it is a color 
identifier?

  Was just curious if anyone has used this app and how good it was?

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Re: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone

[Richard Turner]

A coworker is not able to pair the Braille Sense u2 either because the 'iPhone 
doesn't see it.
But, it can see a Braille Edge.
So, maybe something has happened with the bluetooth driver Apple has.
So, I'd called both HIMS and Apple Accessibility.
Richard


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> On May 16, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> I tried resetting the unit and restarting my phone several times. I have to 
> turn Bluetooth off and then Bluetooth back on YouTube. Is there anything else 
> I can try?
> Jenn
> 
> Jennie Facer
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Karl Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jennie,
>>  
>> I just paired my U2 with my iPhone and it works basically like you say. Are 
>> you sure you have blue tooth turned on in the U2? As soon as I hit pair on 
>> the phone I got a message asking me to enter a pin on the U2 and I entered 
>> the same one as on the iPhone which in my case was . I’m not sure why 
>> you aren’t getting the pin message on your U2. You might try resetting the 
>> unit to see if it clears up the problem. Let me know if it works or not and 
>> I’ll try to help you further if I can.
>>  
>> Karl
>>  
>>  
>> __
>>  
>> Karl Smith, Access Technology Consultant Axis
>> 4304 South El Camino St.
>> Taylorsville, Utah 84129
>>  
>> Phone: 866-824-7885
>> Fax: 866-824-7885
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:10 PM
>> To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone
>>  
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I am trying to pair my Braille Sense to my iPhone again. I had it once but 
>> lost it. Here is what I did:
>> 1. Put the u2 in terminal mode.
>> 2. Went to Braille settings in VO.
>> 3. Double tapped on Braille Sense u2 not paired.
>> 4. Entered  for my security code.
>> 5. Double tapped on pair.
>>  
>> Now it just says pairing unsuccessful. The u2 won't prompt me for the code 
>> to put in. Can anyone lie Karl Smith chime in on this? Am I doing something 
>> wrong?
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Jenn
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Re: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone

[Jennie Facer]

I tried resetting the unit and restarting my phone several times. I have to 
turn Bluetooth off and then Bluetooth back on YouTube. Is there anything else I 
can try?
Jenn

Jennie Facer

> On May 16, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Karl Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennie,
>  
> I just paired my U2 with my iPhone and it works basically like you say. Are 
> you sure you have blue tooth turned on in the U2? As soon as I hit pair on 
> the phone I got a message asking me to enter a pin on the U2 and I entered 
> the same one as on the iPhone which in my case was . I’m not sure why you 
> aren’t getting the pin message on your U2. You might try resetting the unit 
> to see if it clears up the problem. Let me know if it works or not and I’ll 
> try to help you further if I can.
>  
> Karl
>  
>  
> __
>  
> Karl Smith, Access Technology Consultant Axis
> 4304 South El Camino St.
> Taylorsville, Utah 84129
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:10 PM
> To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
> Subject: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> I am trying to pair my Braille Sense to my iPhone again. I had it once but 
> lost it. Here is what I did:
> 1. Put the u2 in terminal mode.
> 2. Went to Braille settings in VO.
> 3. Double tapped on Braille Sense u2 not paired.
> 4. Entered  for my security code.
> 5. Double tapped on pair.
>  
> Now it just says pairing unsuccessful. The u2 won't prompt me for the code to 
> put in. Can anyone lie Karl Smith chime in on this? Am I doing something 
> wrong?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Jenn
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Re: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone

[Scott Dollar]

Hi Karl,

Yes, in the U2 that you ned to go into the global options and be sure that the 
bluetooth must be leave on all the times on the U2.

Hope this help you.

Respectful,

Scott Dollar


From: Karl Smith 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone

Hi Jennie,

 

I just paired my U2 with my iPhone and it works basically like you say. Are you 
sure you have blue tooth turned on in the U2? As soon as I hit pair on the 
phone I got a message asking me to enter a pin on the U2 and I entered the same 
one as on the iPhone which in my case was . I’m not sure why you aren’t 
getting the pin message on your U2. You might try resetting the unit to see if 
it clears up the problem. Let me know if it works or not and I’ll try to help 
you further if I can.

 

Karl

 

 

__

 

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4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

 

Phone: 866-824-7885

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:10 PM
To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Subject: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone

 

Hi all,

 

I am trying to pair my Braille Sense to my iPhone again. I had it once but lost 
it. Here is what I did:

1. Put the u2 in terminal mode.

2. Went to Braille settings in VO.

3. Double tapped on Braille Sense u2 not paired.

4. Entered  for my security code.

5. Double tapped on pair.

 

Now it just says pairing unsuccessful. The u2 won't prompt me for the code to 
put in. Can anyone lie Karl Smith chime in on this? Am I doing something wrong?

 

Thanks,

 

Jenn

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Re: Siri

[Donna]

Here's one I encountered this morning..I hardly use Seri, so when I activated 
Seri, before I asked Seri to search Google, Seri asked me if I accidently 
summonsed her!!

DonnaYes, that's one of her lines. Here are a couple more I have heard her say 
after setting the timer:
> "1 minute and counting, the suspense is killing me!"
> "5 minutes and counting, remember, a watched iPhone never boils"
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
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> I just asked Siri to set a timer for 1 minute. She responded with, “I love a 
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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Arnold Schmidt]

I highly recommend KNFB Reader, with the following caveat.  I, too, have had 
poor results holding my phone myself.  But I always thought the problem to 
be me, not the app, being that I knew others who could get it to work free 
hand.  So, I bought the Scanjig, and it made KNFB Reader come alive, as it 
were, for me.It usually gets results that are at least as good, 
oftentimes better, than my many times more expensive Openbook software.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?


Paul, I’m glad i’m not the only one who doesn’t get the thing to work.
/Krister


16 maj 2016 kl. 20:21 skrev Paul Hunt :

Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl 
camera. I also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt 
guidance features to get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't 
believe there's a check orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.


On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale  
wrote:


Hi, All!

I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For 
years, I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought 
that was the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB 
Reader has it all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also 
tried Prizmo and had to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly. 
For one reason or another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone 
eluded to earlier, when you have a page that's longer than the standard 8 
x 11 sheet, it's hard to put into the StandScan box, and reading it with 
the KNFB Reader was so much easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 
cents' worth in here!  Thanks.


Esther Levegnale

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+

On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  
wrote:


Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for 
years now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and 
how accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands 
move slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought 
for this reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how 
good and accurate of a job it did!!


Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
scanning needs!!
The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly 
better, just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB 
Reader makes scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be 
more efficient in getting things done.


Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the 
cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the 
price.  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely 
worth the cost.
On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, 
like being able to save documents to Dropbox.


Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I 
have had with the app.

I hope this has been helpful.

Chris



On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:

Hi, Everyone.
I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
options that are VO- and blind-friendly?

I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
toward other things.

I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the 
other.


Thanks,
Dani

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RE: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone

[Karl Smith]

Hi Jennie,

 

I just paired my U2 with my iPhone and it works basically like you say. Are you 
sure you have blue tooth turned on in the U2? As soon as I hit pair on the 
phone I got a message asking me to enter a pin on the U2 and I entered the same 
one as on the iPhone which in my case was . I’m not sure why you aren’t 
getting the pin message on your U2. You might try resetting the unit to see if 
it clears up the problem. Let me know if it works or not and I’ll try to help 
you further if I can.

 

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Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:10 PM
To: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Subject: Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone

 

Hi all,

 

I am trying to pair my Braille Sense to my iPhone again. I had it once but lost 
it. Here is what I did:

1. Put the u2 in terminal mode.

2. Went to Braille settings in VO.

3. Double tapped on Braille Sense u2 not paired.

4. Entered  for my security code.

5. Double tapped on pair.

 

Now it just says pairing unsuccessful. The u2 won't prompt me for the code to 
put in. Can anyone lie Karl Smith chime in on this? Am I doing something wrong?

 

Thanks,

 

Jenn

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RE: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you guys suggested a "Check Orientation" feature to the developer? I would 
imagine that it wouldn't be all that difficult to do.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

Hi, Paul,

I too wish there was a "check orientation" feature in the app.  I have some 
pieces of mail which I place in a notebook and don't know if they're upside 
down or not, so to compensate, I punch holes on both the right and the left 
sides.  In case they're upside down, I can switch them using the holes on the 
other side.   

Esther Levegnale

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+

> On May 16, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl camera. I 
> also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt guidance features 
> to get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't believe there's a check 
> orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, All!
>> 
>> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For years, 
>> I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought that was 
>> the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB Reader has it 
>> all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried Prizmo and had 
>> to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one reason or 
>> another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when 
>> you have a page that's longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to 
>> put into the StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much 
>> easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
>> 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
>>> now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how 
>>> accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move 
>>> slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this 
>>> reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
>>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how 
>>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>>> 
>>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
>>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
>>> scanning needs!!
>>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
>>> just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
>>> scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient 
>>> in getting things done.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the 
>>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price. 
>>>  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the 
>>> cost.
>>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
>>> being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>>> 
>>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have 
>>> had with the app.
>>> I hope this has been helpful.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
 
 Hi, Everyone.
 I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those 
 of you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the 
 options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
 
 I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out 
 all the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but 
 couldn't bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money 
 could go toward other things.
 
 I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the 
 other.
 
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RE: Siri

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, that's one of her lines. Here are a couple more I have heard her say after 
setting the timer:
"1 minute and counting, the suspense is killing me!"
"5 minutes and counting, remember, a watched iPhone never boils"


Regards,
Sieghard

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Marie Lyons
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I just asked Siri to set a timer for 1 minute. She responded with, “I love a 
good countdown!”

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Pairing Braille Sense u2 to iPhone

[Jennie Facer]

Hi all,
I am trying to pair my Braille Sense to my iPhone again. I had it once but lost 
it. Here is what I did:1. Put the u2 in terminal mode.2. Went to Braille 
settings in VO.3. Double tapped on Braille Sense u2 not paired.4. Entered  
for my security code.5. Double tapped on pair.
Now it just says pairing unsuccessful. The u2 won't prompt me for the code to 
put in. Can anyone lie Karl Smith chime in on this? Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks,
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RE: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Mark,
I was not really aware of this limitation.  I am not sure I have the right 
settings in my googlegroups. That is why I find the page inaccessible with 
NVDA, the screen reader I am currently using.  I wanted to join the list 
because I am seriously considering switching to mac and I want to read the 
discussions and probably ask few questions in making my decision.
Regards,
Cris

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Subject: RE: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

Hello Chris,

First, I want you to know that there is no built-in mechanism by which to 
notify an applicant as to why they were or were not accepted.  

Second, I suggest that the best way to subscribe to any Google Groups list is 
via the web form which allows one to include a short sentence or two as to why 
they wish to join.  I'm almost certain that the email application method does 
not allow for this.  I think the email application method works best when one 
wishes to join an open list where a moderator is not required to approve an 
applicant.  

Finally, to join the Mac Visionaries mailing list, from within your preferred 
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find the subscribe button and complete the form.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

I had the same problem. I tried to subscribe to the macvisionaries list several 
times and I always got a message that my subscription request was denied.  I 
tried to subscribe through an email message, so I got no explanation to why my 
subscription was rejected.  I wish the moderators of the macvisionaries list 
would state the reasons justifying the denial of people's s subscription 
requests.
Regards,
Cris
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Brian Hansen
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:52 PM
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Subject: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

I just picked up my first Mac the other day, and I tried using the email link 
posted on here to get subscribed to the Mac Visionaries list.  I seemed to have 
had some kind of error responding the first time to their automated email, and 
after my second attempt, it said that I had been denied.  If anyone here could 
send me the email, or contact info for the moderator, I would greatly 
appreciate it.  Thanks.
Te why they would reject someone's subscription.
Regards,
Cris
Blessings,

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Re: iPhone SE

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

That's to do with the proximity senser I presume,  but don't know what options 
there are to control its behaviour.

R.
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: iPhone SE


Hi All,

Something different with the SE that I can't figure out how to fix.  When
the phone is laying face down on the table, and a notification like from
twitter comes in the phone will play the alert tone but VO will not read the
alert unless I pick up the phone.  If the pphone is laying face up on the
table, all alerts are read as they always have been.  Anyone know what they
have changed on the iPhone SE to stop VO from reading the alerts when the
face is covered?



Thx -Steve



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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Paul, I’m glad i’m not the only one who doesn’t get the thing to work.
/Krister

> 16 maj 2016 kl. 20:21 skrev Paul Hunt :
> 
> Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl camera. I 
> also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt guidance features 
> to get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't believe there's a check 
> orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, All!
>> 
>> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For years, 
>> I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought that was 
>> the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB Reader has it 
>> all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried Prizmo and had 
>> to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one reason or 
>> another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when 
>> you have a page that's longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to 
>> put into the StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much 
>> easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
>> 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
>>> now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how 
>>> accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move 
>>> slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this 
>>> reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
>>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how 
>>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>>> 
>>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
>>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
>>> scanning needs!!
>>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
>>> just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
>>> scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient 
>>> in getting things done.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the 
>>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price. 
>>>  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the 
>>> cost.
>>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
>>> being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>>> 
>>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have 
>>> had with the app.
>>> I hope this has been helpful.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
 
 Hi, Everyone.
 I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
 you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
 options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
 
 I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
 the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
 bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Michael Feir]

I don't think I'd use it to put a check in a printer. For organising a
stack of pages, it does give you the degrees of orientation from
presumed horizontal upright position so I'd use that info to stack the
pages properly as I scanned each individually. It also can work with a
scanning stand automatically taking pictures when sheets are placed in
the stand. You're right in thinking that a more conventional scanner
would be better for that sort of thing. However, for quickly finding
out and getting an accurate reading of a page, I'd put KNFB Reader up
against any OCR scanner.

On 5/16/16, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> Dani,
>
> I tried a few blind friendly OCR apps and none of them compare to the KNFB
> reader.  The ability to scan free-hand with a level indicator, notification
> of your text being seen and if the camera can see all 4 corners of the page
> make it the very best.  The level now also works in the vertical so I use it
> all the time to scan text posted on a wall.  If you can swing it while its
> on sale, you won't regret it.  I realize it’s a lot of money but it’s a lot
> of app as well.  Not using the flash, I was also able to recognize text on
> my computer monitor.  That's pretty good.
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Dani Pagador
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:51 AM
> To: iPhone for visually impaired 
> Subject: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?
>
> Hi, Everyone.
> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of you
> who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the options that
> are VO- and blind-friendly?
>
> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all the
> possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't bring
> myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go toward other
> things.
>
> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the
> other.
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
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RE: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Ron Pelletier]

Dani,

I tried a few blind friendly OCR apps and none of them compare to the KNFB 
reader.  The ability to scan free-hand with a level indicator, notification of 
your text being seen and if the camera can see all 4 corners of the page make 
it the very best.  The level now also works in the vertical so I use it all the 
time to scan text posted on a wall.  If you can swing it while its on sale, you 
won't regret it.  I realize it’s a lot of money but it’s a lot of app as well.  
Not using the flash, I was also able to recognize text on my computer monitor.  
That's pretty good.

Ron & Danvers


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Dani Pagador
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:51 AM
To: iPhone for visually impaired 
Subject: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

Hi, Everyone.
I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of you who 
have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the options that are VO- 
and blind-friendly?

I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all the 
possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't bring myself 
to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go toward other things.

I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the other.

Thanks,
Dani

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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, Paul,

I too wish there was a "check orientation" feature in the app.  I have some 
pieces of mail which I place in a notebook and don't know if they're upside 
down or not, so to compensate, I punch holes on both the right and the left 
sides.  In case they're upside down, I can switch them using the holes on the 
other side.   

Esther Levegnale

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+

> On May 16, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl camera. I 
> also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt guidance features 
> to get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't believe there's a check 
> orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, All!
>> 
>> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For years, 
>> I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought that was 
>> the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB Reader has it 
>> all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried Prizmo and had 
>> to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one reason or 
>> another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when 
>> you have a page that's longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to 
>> put into the StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much 
>> easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
>> 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
>>> now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how 
>>> accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move 
>>> slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this 
>>> reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
>>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how 
>>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>>> 
>>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
>>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
>>> scanning needs!!
>>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
>>> just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
>>> scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient 
>>> in getting things done.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the 
>>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price. 
>>>  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the 
>>> cost.
>>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
>>> being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>>> 
>>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have 
>>> had with the app.
>>> I hope this has been helpful.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
 
 Hi, Everyone.
 I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
 you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
 options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
 
 I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
 the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
 bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
 toward other things.
 
 I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the 
 other.
 
 Thanks,
 Dani
 
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RE: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Paul Hunt]

Michael, that doesn't solve the problem. What if you want to load a check into 
your printer. Can KNFB Reader tell you whether you are putting it in correctly? 
What if you want to assemble a group of pages and get their orientation correct 
for mailing? Can the KNFB reader do that?
Thanks so much. 
Paul
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

The KNFB Reader will figure out how many degrees a sheet is rotated so if it's 
180 degress, that'd be upside down. It compensates for orientation 
automatically. As long as you get all four edges of a page in the picture, 
you're off to the races.

On 5/16/16, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl camera.
> I also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt guidance 
> features to get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't believe 
> there's a check orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.
>
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, All!
>>
>> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For 
>> years, I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and 
>> thought that was the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  
>> The KNFB Reader has it all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  
>> I've also tried Prizmo and had to use my StandScan Pro in order to 
>> scan properly.  For one reason or another, I couldn't use it 
>> free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when you have a page that's 
>> longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to put into the 
>> StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much easier for 
>> me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents'
>> worth in here!  Thanks.
>>
>> Esther Levegnale
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
>>
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil 
>>> for years now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader 
>>> app and how accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of 
>>> our hands move slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, 
>>> so I thought for this reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
>>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in 
>>> how good and accurate of a job it did!!
>>>
>>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on 
>>> my computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all 
>>> of my scanning needs!!
>>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly 
>>> better, just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the 
>>> KNFB Reader makes scanning things easier and quicker, therefore 
>>> making me be more efficient in getting things done.
>>>
>>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to 
>>> the cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of 
>>> the price.  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is 
>>> definitely worth the cost.
>>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great 
>>> features, like being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>>>
>>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience 
>>> I have had with the app.
>>> I hope this has been helpful.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
 On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:

 Hi, Everyone.
 I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those 
 of you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the 
 options that are VO- and blind-friendly?

 I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out 
 all the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but 
 couldn't bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money 
 could go toward other things.

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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Michael Feir]

The KNFB Reader will figure out how many degrees a sheet is rotated so
if it's 180 degress, that'd be upside down. It compensates for
orientation automatically. As long as you get all four edges of a page
in the picture, you're off to the races.

On 5/16/16, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl camera.
> I also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt guidance
> features to get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't believe there's a
> check orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.
>
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, All!
>>
>> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For
>> years, I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought
>> that was the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB
>> Reader has it all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried
>> Prizmo and had to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one
>> reason or another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to
>> earlier, when you have a page that's longer than the standard 8 x 11
>> sheet, it's hard to put into the StandScan box, and reading it with the
>> KNFB Reader was so much easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents'
>> worth in here!  Thanks.
>>
>> Esther Levegnale
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
>>
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for
>>> years now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how
>>> accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move
>>> slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for
>>> this reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
>>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how
>>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>>>
>>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my
>>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my
>>> scanning needs!!
>>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly
>>> better, just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB
>>> Reader makes scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be
>>> more efficient in getting things done.
>>>
>>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the
>>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the
>>> price.  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely
>>> worth the cost.
>>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features,
>>> like being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>>>
>>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I
>>> have had with the app.
>>> I hope this has been helpful.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
 On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:

 Hi, Everyone.
 I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
 you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
 options that are VO- and blind-friendly?

 I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
 the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
 bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
 toward other things.

 I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the
 other.

 Thanks,
 Dani

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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl camera. I 
also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt guidance features to 
get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't believe there's a check 
orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.

> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, All!
> 
> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For years, 
> I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought that was 
> the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB Reader has it 
> all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried Prizmo and had 
> to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one reason or 
> another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when you 
> have a page that's longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to put 
> into the StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much 
> easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
> 
> Esther Levegnale
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
>> now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how accurate 
>> it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move slightly when 
>> holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this reason, the app 
>> could only be so good at scanning.
>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how 
>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>> 
>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
>> scanning needs!!
>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
>> just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
>> scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient in 
>> getting things done.
>> 
>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the 
>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price.  
>> And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the 
>> cost.
>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
>> being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>> 
>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have 
>> had with the app.
>> I hope this has been helpful.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Everyone.
>>> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
>>> you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
>>> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
>>> 
>>> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
>>> the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
>>> bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
>>> toward other things.
>>> 
>>> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the 
>>> other.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dani
>>> 
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RE: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

[M. Taylor]

Hello Chris,

First, I want you to know that there is no built-in mechanism by which to 
notify an applicant as to why they were or were not accepted.  

Second, I suggest that the best way to subscribe to any Google Groups list is 
via the web form which allows one to include a short sentence or two as to why 
they wish to join.  I'm almost certain that the email application method does 
not allow for this.  I think the email application method works best when one 
wishes to join an open list where a moderator is not required to approve an 
applicant.  

Finally, to join the Mac Visionaries mailing list, from within your preferred 
web browser, go to http://groups.google.com and search for the group.  Then, 
find the subscribe button and complete the form.

Mark

-Original Message-
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Cris Ali
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I had the same problem. I tried to subscribe to the macvisionaries list several 
times and I always got a message that my subscription request was denied.  I 
tried to subscribe through an email message, so I got no explanation to why my 
subscription was rejected.  I wish the moderators of the macvisionaries list 
would state the reasons justifying the denial of people's s subscription 
requests.
Regards,
Cris
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Brian Hansen
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:52 PM
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Subject: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

I just picked up my first Mac the other day, and I tried using the email link 
posted on here to get subscribed to the Mac Visionaries list.  I seemed to have 
had some kind of error responding the first time to their automated email, and 
after my second attempt, it said that I had been denied.  If anyone here could 
send me the email, or contact info for the moderator, I would greatly 
appreciate it.  Thanks.
Te why they would reject someone's subscription.
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Re: aipoly

[rajmund]

Hello,
Tap Tap See has accuracy issues. I got a swinks (furless) cat, and took a 
picture of him. tap tap see said human skin. I laughed so badly on that one. 
But both are free, I'd play with both.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 16 May 2016, at 2:44 pm, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It is a free app, so try it out.
> Personally, I think TapTapSee does a better job with most things including 
> colors because it will identify, for example, a man’s shirt with blue and 
> white flowers, etc.
>  
> AIPoly is teachable, though, so it will likely get better in time.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jeremy Gilley
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: aipoly
>  
> Good morning all.
> So, apparently aipoly made the news on how this could help the visually 
> impaired.
> The description of the app I guess also mentions that it is a color 
> identifier?
> Was just curious if anyone has used this app and how good it was?
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The subject says it all!
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Re: iPhone SE

[Traci Duncan]

This is actually an iOS 9 thing.  It is a battery saver to not light up the 
screen when the iPhone is face down.  From doing a little Googling, the only 
way to disable it is to disable fitness tracking under settings.

Hope this helps a little,
Traci

> On May 16, 2016, at 10:44 AM, Steve Sweeney  wrote:
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> Hi All,
> Something different with the SE that I can’t figure out how to fix.  When the 
> phone is laying face down on the table, and a notification like from twitter 
> comes in the phone will play the alert tone but VO will not read the alert 
> unless I pick up the phone.  If the pphone is laying face up on the table, 
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> covered?
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Re: heavy bug in fb app update

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Mary and others 

I informed the accessibility team of facebook about the bug.
For your own good policies, maybe it is good to set your iphone in this way 
that app updates are not installed so that you can prevent yourselves for such 
inconveniences caused by broken accessibility in app updates. 
Regards
Davy  

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

Hi exceed hard,
I tried as you suggested by flicking to the search field then flicking to the 
left once hearing the bunk and double tapping and holding. I held it for quite 
a while. Tried it twice. No luck. Then I tried touching into the search field 
sliding my finger all the way to the left margin, double tapping. Same thing. 
No luck. I hope they fix this bug soon, as I do use the search field quite 
often to search in a very busy group of which I am a member.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


  Hmm, I just tried it again and while I have done so several times yesterday 
when it didn’t work, it does work now.

  It does sometimes seem to matter where exactly the focus is, I just tried it 
by swiping left all the way until I got to “Search, dimmed” and it didn’t work 
twice in a row, then I swipe left one more time so it made the bonk sound and 
then it worked. When I find the search field by touch it seems to work better 
if I make sure I slide my finger all the way to the left against the edge of my 
case.

  But I think it’s pretty safe to say that it seems to be consistant although I 
can’t get it to work the way Donna says with a split tap.

  Davy, make sure you double tap and hold and don’t lift your finger too soon, 
make sure the triple tone sounds and then give it another half second or second 
before  you lift your finger. If it doesn’t work the first time try it a second 
time and move your finger a bit more towards the edge, if you have a case it is 
easier as you can put your finger right up against the case.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
  Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

   

  I can confirm that the workaround for the search works.

  /Krister

   

16 maj 2016 kl. 14:44 skrev Davy Cuppens :

 

I am very sorry to tell that it is really not working here at all, even not 
in the more tab of the screen.

It is eventually a bug!

Regards

Davy 

 

From: Daniel Miller 

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:39 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

 

Hi, yes it does. I just tried it literally two seconds ago, and got it to 
work 100% of the time. Double tap and hold on the search field, wait for the 
triple tone, then release your finger. Works all the time.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus


On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:

  This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.

   

  From: Daniel Miller 

  Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

   

  hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you 
can still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.

  On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens  wrote:



Hi folks 

 

Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.

 

The search function can nolonger be used for voiceover users.

Regards

Davy 

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iPhone SE

[Steve Sweeney]

Hi All,

Something different with the SE that I can't figure out how to fix.  When
the phone is laying face down on the table, and a notification like from
twitter comes in the phone will play the alert tone but VO will not read the
alert unless I pick up the phone.  If the pphone is laying face up on the
table, all alerts are read as they always have been.  Anyone know what they
have changed on the iPhone SE to stop VO from reading the alerts when the
face is covered?

 

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Re: facebook app

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Sieghard

I can get it working by toggling vo off and on and tapping very precisely on 
the search button.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: facebook app

Hi Davy,

Look for my other post, I tried this again and it is in fact working, maybe 
when I tried it before I lifted too soon after the triple tone or wasn't 
quite focused on the search field, but I can now get this to work 
consistently.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Davy Cuppens

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

Sieghard you are right, this is really just the same here in Belgium. It 
does not work at all, but stopping voiceover does the trick.


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: facebook app

Hi Daniel,

I don't know about others, but for me this work-around is not working, 
double tap and hold and then letting go when the tone sounds does nothing on 
my 6S Plus and neither does split-tapping or anything else with Voiceover 
running.
The only work-around which works for me is to turn Voiceover off, then tap 
the search field and start Voiceover up again. I find this is not very 
difficult to do since you can orient on the mute switch, the search box on 
my 6S Plus is just on the screen next to the mute switch and I can tap it 
everytime I tried.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Daniel Miller

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

Hi. There's a workaround. Double tap and hold on the search box, and then 
released your finger when you hear the triple tone from voiceover.


Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus


On May 16, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:

No, you aren't.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Walter Harper
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

Thanks so much.  I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong

Sent from my iPhone


On May 16, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:

Hi, its bug in the app.


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Behalf Of Walter Harper
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: facebook app

Hello all,
Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone
the search button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an 
everything.

Can anyone help?
Walter

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Re: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

[christopher hallsworth]

Apparently, you now need to contact the owners stating that you would like to 
join and the reasons why. They’ve had so much trouble they have no choice but 
to deny subscriptions with no explanations as to why one is subscribing.
> On 16 May 2016, at 18:19, Cris Ali  wrote:
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> the macvisionaries list would state the reasons justifying the denial of 
> people's s subscription requests.
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> have had some kind of error responding the first time to their automated 
> email, and after my second attempt, it said that I had been denied.  If 
> anyone here could send me the email, or contact info for the moderator, I 
> would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks.
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Open in KNFB Reader + manual

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, with the ongoing KNFB Reader topic, I wanted to add a couple things.

Something I like to access from time to time is text inside those images people 
post on social media.  It’s usually something funny or inspirational.  Is the 
following scenario possible?  I am in the Twitterrific app, I open the media, 
which is an image.  I double tap and hold on the image to bring up the open in 
or sharing options.  Can I then open in KNFB and have it scan it?  Effectively 
reading out the text.

This is definitely something I am interested in.  It is possible in Prizmo, 
however Prizmo doesn’t always succeed with a good scan result.  I have another 
app that is mainly for translating, yet it has done an excellent job with 
scanning online images.  That app however, I need to save the image first.

Secondly, I came across a KNFB Reader manual online.  May be helpful to folks.
http://www.knfbreader.com/pdf/KNFBReader_manual-EN.pdf 



Thanks,
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playing a video on youtube with the youtube app

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi all. One of my students would like to know how to replay a youtube video 
especially if it's a full episode of something? Thanks.

Rebecca and Zeb
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how do you get maps to give walking directions to an intersection?

[Pinky]

Hi Everyone.

Is there a way to get walking directions using maps to an intersection? For
example I want to go to north Dakota St. and 18th Avenue. I asked Siri but
she would not do this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

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RE: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

[Cris Ali]

I had the same problem. I tried to subscribe to the macvisionaries list several 
times and I always got a message that my subscription request was denied.  I 
tried to subscribe through an email message, so I got no explanation to why my 
subscription was rejected.  I wish the moderators of the macvisionaries list 
would state the reasons justifying the denial of people's s subscription 
requests.
Regards,
Cris
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Brian Hansen
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:52 PM
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Subject: Moderator Contact Info for the Mac Visionaries Group Needed

I just picked up my first Mac the other day, and I tried using the email link 
posted on here to get subscribed to the Mac Visionaries list.  I seemed to have 
had some kind of error responding the first time to their automated email, and 
after my second attempt, it said that I had been denied.  If anyone here could 
send me the email, or contact info for the moderator, I would greatly 
appreciate it.  Thanks.
Te why they would reject someone's subscription.
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Blessings,

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Siri

[Marie Lyons]

I just asked Siri to set a timer for 1 minute. She responded with, “I love a 
good countdown!”

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RE: accessible 800 phone service?

[Cristóbal]

International considerations for this number at least is not a concern. My 
business is a state vendor and my other clients are also California based. 

Let me ask, it sounds like some  of  the free features in GV are paid add-ons 
(call blasting, texting), what about call waiting or being able to answer more 
than  one incoming call at the same time while already engaged on the line?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

 

Hi Cristobal,

 

Also keep in mind that some of these services work well for people outside the 
US where Google Voice is not really supported. Here in Canada I can’t even get 
Skype-In numbers and it makes little sense for me to get an American Skype 
number. I can’t even get a local phone number to use as a Voip number or port 
my existing business number to a Voip service at this time. This is possible in 
the larger cities, but in the smaller communities and more remote areas  of 
Canada there still is little competition and local numbers are not available 
for Voip or porting.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

 

I’m a bigtime  Google Voice user and use the texting as well as call 
forwarding/filtering features with a separate Skype number as a backup and 
secondary number for my business. 

I’ve been contemplating getting an 800 number as work has expanded beyond my 
local area to more state wide. 

Can anyone comment on how flexible any of these 800 number services are in 
regards to forwarding to other numbers and or texting? I know worse comes to 
worse, I can always keep my GV number for strictly texting purposes, but GV 
being able to forward to multiple numbers is incredibly helpful. I have it go 
to my Skype number at my main desktop as well as my dedicated business cell in 
case I have to step away from the PC. The Google Voice as well as the GVConnect 
iOS apps for iPhone are completely accessible which facilitates things too. 

Any input would be helpful.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

 

The reviews between two of the big cloud-based phone service companies, 
Ringcentral and Grasshopper, seem to indicate the both have comparible 
features, but a slightly different approach. It seems Ringcentral’s support is 
rated somewhat better although I tried Ringcentral a few years ago and wasn’t 
overly impressed. As with many companies and this is mentioned online, 
Ringcentral is outsourcing support mostly to the Philippines and I certainly 
had a few people on the line back then where there was a bit of a language 
barrier. Grasshopper claims their support is in the US (Florida) and that they 
encourage customers to call support any time whereas Ringcentral encourages 
customers to use the Ringcentral.com for support first and only if really 
necessary to call support.

 

My guess is that Grasshopper may have stepped up a bit because in todays 
connected world online reviews can be very damaging and I don’t think in the 
long run any company can afford to have consistently bad reviews. I signed up 
for a Grasshopper toll free number and will try it for 30 days since they say 
they have a 30-day money back guaranty. I have downloaded the app and it seems 
very accessible where with Ringcentral there were a few issues if I remember 
correctly.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Malver
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible 800 phone service?

 

The American Council of the blind of Minnesota used to use grasshopper, and we 
found they had absolutely horrible customer service. We use magicJack now, but 
all we do is lie phone support. We don't meet or have mailboxes.
Hopefully, grasshopper has improved. It really did have some very cool features.


On May 15, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:

Why not take a look at www.grasshoper.com and see what they say.  I think I can 
refer you if you like what they offer.  They have some really cool features.

 

 

On May 15, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Ann Chiappetta  wrote:

 

Hi,

Anyone know of  toll free phone services? Our organization is looking for one. 
This isn’t like teleconferencing, it’s for  an information line.

TX

Annie

 

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facebook: Annie Chiappetta  Twitter AnnieDungarees

 

 

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Re: major linked in problems

[Jed Barton]

Did it work?  I found the anser to this problem through a friend of mine 
who was sighted and he helped me.


On 5/16/2016 9:33 AM, Keith Bundy wrote:

Thanks for the good information, Jed!

Sent from my iPhone


On May 14, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

ah, well, we now have a solution.
For those of you that use linked in, there i guess have been changes to the 
app.  I was having a problem viewing my network.  So, here's what you do.
Go to my network tab.  There is a thing that says view invitations and 
connections.  Click on that.
What use to be there is another button called my connections.  It's a little 
deceiving.
Now you have to click on add new connections, and you'll see your entire 
network.
It's a litle deveiving just cause of how it is labeled.


On 5/13/2016 3:37 PM, Keith B. wrote:
I can't shed any light on this, but I can confirm that is a problem I am
having as well. I hope someone can assist us with this.

On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 1:57:00 PM UTC-5, Jed Barton wrote:

   Hey guys,

   OK, i really need some help ehre, cause i'm getting nowhere.  I am
   starting to use linked in a lot, and have run in to a major
   accessibility issue.  My connections seem to have gone away.
 I click on the my network tab, and it says view invitations and
   connections.  It says my invitations heading, but i see no connections,
   i use to see connections, but no more.  Can anyone shed some light?

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Re: Spotify Losing Focus

[Kelby Carlson]

Yes.

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To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  
Date: Monday, May 16, 2016 11:36 am
Subject: RE: Spotify Losing Focus

>
>
> Are you on the most recent version of iOS, 9.3.1?
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> Subject: Spotify Losing Focus
> 
> My Spotify consistently loses focus when scrolling through longer lists of 
> albums or songs and will take me to random spots or back to the top of the 
> page. Any solutions?
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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
I don’t want to argue with you at all, but i don’t think it could be the 
contrast though i can be wrong of course. What happens is that part of a 
document isn’t visible no matter what i do and that mystifies me to no end 
since it worked before.
/Krister

> 16 maj 2016 kl. 17:27 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :
> 
> Hi Krister,
> 
> We all have different abilities. I think you have mentioned several times 
> before that using the camera isn't your strong point, but then again you seem 
> to successfully use the Fleksy keyboard and that is something that I am not 
> able to master in the time I think should be required to learn it.
> Also, keep in mind that for the edge detection to work well there has to be a 
> bit of contrast, e.g. if you have a mostly white piece of paper with some 
> text and put it on a white desk or table it may not work so good.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 7:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?
> 
> Well, just to balance it all i can not get the knfb reader to work. No matter 
> what i do, how i twist my hands, the phone or the paper, i’m never ever able 
> to get all for corners of a document visible and i am not able to get a full 
> documents worth of text out of the reader. Luckily i only use it for scanning 
> mail and then only when i know my home help will come and help me sort the 
> mail out afterward so then it doesn’t matter if what comes out is gibberish 
> as long as i can get a sentence or two out of it to know where the mail i 
> scan might come from.
> /Krister
> 
>> 16 maj 2016 kl. 16:47 skrev Esther Levegnale :
>> 
>> Hi, All!
>> 
>> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For years, 
>> I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought that was 
>> the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB Reader has it 
>> all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried Prizmo and had 
>> to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one reason or 
>> another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when 
>> you have a page that's longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to 
>> put into the StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much 
>> easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
>> 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
>>> now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how 
>>> accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move 
>>> slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this 
>>> reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
>>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how 
>>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>>> 
>>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
>>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
>>> scanning needs!!
>>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
>>> just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
>>> scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient 
>>> in getting things done.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the 
>>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price. 
>>>  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the 
>>> cost.
>>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
>>> being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>>> 
>>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have 
>>> had with the app.
>>> I hope this has been helpful.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
 
 Hi, Everyone.
 I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
 you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
 options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
 
 I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
 the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
 bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
 toward other things.
 
 I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the 
 other.
 
 Thanks,
 Dani
 
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RE: heavy bug in fb app update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mary,

Well, not sure why it doesn’t work, I just confirmed that it is not specific to 
the Plus-size phones because I just turned on Voiceover on my wife’s iPhone 6S 
and it worked right away.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

Hi exceed hard,
I tried as you suggested by flicking to the search field then flicking to the 
left once hearing the bunk and double tapping and holding. I held it for quite 
a while. Tried it twice. No luck. Then I tried touching into the search field 
sliding my finger all the way to the left margin, double tapping. Same thing. 
No luck. I hope they fix this bug soon, as I do use the search field quite 
often to search in a very busy group of which I am a member.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:
Hmm, I just tried it again and while I have done so several times yesterday 
when it didn’t work, it does work now.
It does sometimes seem to matter where exactly the focus is, I just tried it by 
swiping left all the way until I got to “Search, dimmed” and it didn’t work 
twice in a row, then I swipe left one more time so it made the bonk sound and 
then it worked. When I find the search field by touch it seems to work better 
if I make sure I slide my finger all the way to the left against the edge of my 
case.
But I think it’s pretty safe to say that it seems to be consistant although I 
can’t get it to work the way Donna says with a split tap.
Davy, make sure you double tap and hold and don’t lift your finger too soon, 
make sure the triple tone sounds and then give it another half second or second 
before  you lift your finger. If it doesn’t work the first time try it a second 
time and move your finger a bit more towards the edge, if you have a case it is 
easier as you can put your finger right up against the case.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

I can confirm that the workaround for the search works.
/Krister

16 maj 2016 kl. 14:44 skrev Davy Cuppens 
>:

I am very sorry to tell that it is really not working here at all, even not in 
the more tab of the screen.
It is eventually a bug!
Regards
Davy

From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

Hi, yes it does. I just tried it literally two seconds ago, and got it to work 
100% of the time. Double tap and hold on the search field, wait for the triple 
tone, then release your finger. Works all the time.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens 
> wrote:
This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.

From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you can 
still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.

On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens 
> wrote:


Hi folks

Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.

The search function can nolonger be used for voiceover users.
Regards
Davy
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Re: heavy bug in fb app update

[Mary Otten]

Hi exceed hard,
I tried as you suggested by flicking to the search field then flicking to the 
left once hearing the bunk and double tapping and holding. I held it for quite 
a while. Tried it twice. No luck. Then I tried touching into the search field 
sliding my finger all the way to the left margin, double tapping. Same thing. 
No luck. I hope they fix this bug soon, as I do use the search field quite 
often to search in a very busy group of which I am a member.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, I just tried it again and while I have done so several times yesterday 
> when it didn’t work, it does work now.
> It does sometimes seem to matter where exactly the focus is, I just tried it 
> by swiping left all the way until I got to “Search, dimmed” and it didn’t 
> work twice in a row, then I swipe left one more time so it made the bonk 
> sound and then it worked. When I find the search field by touch it seems to 
> work better if I make sure I slide my finger all the way to the left against 
> the edge of my case.
> But I think it’s pretty safe to say that it seems to be consistant although I 
> can’t get it to work the way Donna says with a split tap.
> Davy, make sure you double tap and hold and don’t lift your finger too soon, 
> make sure the triple tone sounds and then give it another half second or 
> second before  you lift your finger. If it doesn’t work the first time try it 
> a second time and move your finger a bit more towards the edge, if you have a 
> case it is easier as you can put your finger right up against the case.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>  
> I can confirm that the workaround for the search works.
> /Krister
>  
> 16 maj 2016 kl. 14:44 skrev Davy Cuppens :
>  
> I am very sorry to tell that it is really not working here at all, even not 
> in the more tab of the screen.
> It is eventually a bug!
> Regards
> Davy
>  
> From: Daniel Miller
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>  
> Hi, yes it does. I just tried it literally two seconds ago, and got it to 
> work 100% of the time. Double tap and hold on the search field, wait for the 
> triple tone, then release your finger. Works all the time.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
> On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.
>  
> From: Daniel Miller
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>  
> hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you can 
> still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.
> 
> On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
>  
> Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.
>  
> The search function can nolonger be used for voiceover users.
> Regards
> Davy
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RE: Spotify Losing Focus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Are you on the most recent version of iOS, 9.3.1?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Kelby Carlson
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Spotify Losing Focus

My Spotify consistently loses focus when scrolling through longer lists of 
albums or songs and will take me to random spots or back to the top of the 
page. Any solutions?


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RE: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Michael,

Enabling family sharing in no way means you ar "joining" your iTunes accounts. 
Some people in fact use the same dedicated Apple Id for iTunes and the app 
store and then use separate, individual accounts for iCloud, iMessage, Facetime 
etc. The nice thing about family sharing is that this is not necessary any 
longer. You enable it, add the other person and you then have access to all the 
apps your wife purchased and vice versa.
If., for example, I go to the "Updates" tab in the App Store and tap on 
"Purchases" I then have to tap either on "My purchases" to see the purchases I 
made wit my Apple Id or I can tap on "Jackie", my wife, to see the purchases 
she made and I can download any of them.
Maybe somebody knows of disadvantages with this, I haven't come across any.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

Hey Sieghard. We have quite different tastes in apps and she's a bit wary of 
joining our iTUNES accounts in any way. Haven't heard from many people at all 
who actually use it. Jonathan Mosen's the only one who comes to mind.

On 5/16/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Just a tip regarding buying apps. KNFB Reader has family sharing turned on.
> If you set up family sharing and add your wife as your family member, 
> she could have downloaded KNFB Reader at no extra cost since you 
> already purchased it.
> Many apps allow family sharing, you should check it out since there is 
> often no reason to buy an app twice.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Feir
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?
>
> Hi Dani. I was fortunate enough to have someone purchase the KNFB 
> Reader app for me. However, I can honestly say that I would have 
> purchased it myself if necessary and never regretted the investment. I 
> knew that with utter certainty the first day I had the app. Prior to 
> getting it, I was using
> Kurzweil1000 on my Windows PC for my OCR needs. I had tried Prizmo and 
> another app but had never been able to take a good enough picture due 
> to a lack of guidance.
>
> I haven't had a scanner on my desk since about a week after I got the 
> KNFB Reader app. It simply became obvious by that point that I'd never 
> want to use one again All through that first week, I kept expecting to 
> find some reason why I'd want to hold onto my scanner. However, in 
> every case, I got results that were just as good and/or better. Those 
> results only took seconds at most from the time I laid out a sheet to 
> be read to the time I heard enough to know what the page was.
>
> Being on social assistance, I know how tight money can get. Both my 
> wife and I have the KNFB Reader app. She bought her copy for herself 
> after hearing me use mine. I've told two friends, also on social 
> assistance and feeling the financial pinch about the sale this week. I 
> know they're in the best of hands with this app and won't regret their 
> purchase of it either. I use the app every day to read my mail. I've 
> used it to read instructions on boxes, and even to do things it wasn't 
> designed for like reading beer bottles and labels on soup cans. While 
> updating to Windows10, there are long stretches when you computer 
> won't speak to you. I used KNFB Reader to read the screen and learn 
> that the update was still progressing. I've read signs my cane has 
> contacted on pathways I was walking along. Nothing says things have to 
> be flat and horizontal to be read. One thing to note is that ambient 
> lighting makes a big difference. The only times my lights are on are when I'm 
> having sighted guests or taking pictures of pages or objects.
> The app will make use of your i device's camera flash so even in dark 
> conditions, it's worth a shot.
>
> On the first day I got KNFB Reader, I also got one of those huge 
> folded sheets of mail from the Ontario government. You know the ones 
> which are big enough to be posters? Sighted people must find them easy 
> to just look down and take the contents in. Those sheets are 
> nightmares to try and scan since they're too big to fit in most 
> flat-bed scanners. You're basically reduced to lining up a short and 
> long side of the page with your scanner and hoping to get something 
> meaningful. If you manage to read enough to figure out what the 
> blasted thing's about after a few tries, you feel like you've won a 
> wrestling match. I laid the sheet on my dining room table, turned on 
> the lights, and proceeded to use the field of view report. I continued 
> to raise my iPHONE flat 

Spotify Losing Focus

[Kelby Carlson]

My Spotify consistently loses focus when scrolling through longer lists of 
albums or songs and will take me to random spots or back to the top of the 
page. Any solutions?


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Re: accessible 800 phone service?

[Scott Berry]

Seighard,

That’s correct.  So say you have 10 people workng for you and you want 5 of 
those to answer the calls then call blasting would basically blast all of those 
at the same time and then whoever picks up would take the call.


> On May 16, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If you have an 800 number from Grasshopper, Ringcentral or any other company 
> that offers cloud-based business grade phone systems they can be forward to 
> whatever you want. I am going to try out Grasshopper and set up an account 
> yesterday with a toll free number and I set it up so any calls to the toll 
> free number will be forwarded to my cell phone. You can even set it up to 
> only forward during certain hours during weekdays and weekends or make a 
> complete custom schedule.
> You can then make outgoing calls from the Grasshopper app and the people you 
> call will see my toll free number on their call display and not my cell 
> number.
> For $10 a months you can add SMS to this as well.
> Call blasting is another $10 a months, this will I believe allow you to set 
> up multiple phone numbers and any calls will simultaneously ring all the 
> numbers you set up and I guess whoever picks up first is answering the call.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 5:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?
>  
> I’m a bigtime  Google Voice user and use the texting as well as call 
> forwarding/filtering features with a separate Skype number as a backup and 
> secondary number for my business. 
> I’ve been contemplating getting an 800 number as work has expanded beyond my 
> local area to more state wide.
> Can anyone comment on how flexible any of these 800 number services are in 
> regards to forwarding to other numbers and or texting? I know worse comes to 
> worse, I can always keep my GV number for strictly texting purposes, but GV 
> being able to forward to multiple numbers is incredibly helpful. I have it go 
> to my Skype number at my main desktop as well as my dedicated business cell 
> in case I have to step away from the PC. The Google Voice as well as the 
> GVConnect iOS apps for iPhone are completely accessible which facilitates 
> things too.
> Any input would be helpful.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?
>  
> The reviews between two of the big cloud-based phone service companies, 
> Ringcentral and Grasshopper, seem to indicate the both have comparible 
> features, but a slightly different approach. It seems Ringcentral’s support 
> is rated somewhat better although I tried Ringcentral a few years ago and 
> wasn’t overly impressed. As with many companies and this is mentioned online, 
> Ringcentral is outsourcing support mostly to the Philippines and I certainly 
> had a few people on the line back then where there was a bit of a language 
> barrier. Grasshopper claims their support is in the US (Florida) and that 
> they encourage customers to call support any time whereas Ringcentral 
> encourages customers to use the Ringcentral.com for 
> support first and only if really necessary to call support.
>  
> My guess is that Grasshopper may have stepped up a bit because in todays 
> connected world online reviews can be very damaging and I don’t think in the 
> long run any company can afford to have consistently bad reviews. I signed up 
> for a Grasshopper toll free number and will try it for 30 days since they say 
> they have a 30-day money back guaranty. I have downloaded the app and it 
> seems very accessible where with Ringcentral there were a few issues if I 
> remember correctly.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Michael Malver
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 1:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: accessible 800 phone service?
>  
> The American Council of the blind of Minnesota used to use grasshopper, and 
> we found they had absolutely horrible customer service. We use magicJack now, 
> but all we do is lie phone support. We don't meet or have mailboxes.
> Hopefully, grasshopper has improved. It really did have some very cool 
> features.
> 
> On May 15, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Scott Berry  > wrote:
> 
> Why not take a look at www.grasshoper.com 

RE: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Krister,

We all have different abilities. I think you have mentioned several times 
before that using the camera isn't your strong point, but then again you seem 
to successfully use the Fleksy keyboard and that is something that I am not 
able to master in the time I think should be required to learn it.
Also, keep in mind that for the edge detection to work well there has to be a 
bit of contrast, e.g. if you have a mostly white piece of paper with some text 
and put it on a white desk or table it may not work so good.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 7:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

Well, just to balance it all i can not get the knfb reader to work. No matter 
what i do, how i twist my hands, the phone or the paper, i’m never ever able to 
get all for corners of a document visible and i am not able to get a full 
documents worth of text out of the reader. Luckily i only use it for scanning 
mail and then only when i know my home help will come and help me sort the mail 
out afterward so then it doesn’t matter if what comes out is gibberish as long 
as i can get a sentence or two out of it to know where the mail i scan might 
come from.
/Krister

> 16 maj 2016 kl. 16:47 skrev Esther Levegnale :
> 
> Hi, All!
> 
> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For years, 
> I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought that was 
> the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB Reader has it 
> all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried Prizmo and had 
> to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one reason or 
> another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when you 
> have a page that's longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to put 
> into the StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much 
> easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
> 
> Esther Levegnale
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
>> now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how accurate 
>> it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move slightly when 
>> holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this reason, the app 
>> could only be so good at scanning.
>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how 
>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>> 
>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
>> scanning needs!!
>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
>> just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
>> scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient in 
>> getting things done.
>> 
>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the 
>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price.  
>> And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the 
>> cost.
>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
>> being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>> 
>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have 
>> had with the app.
>> I hope this has been helpful.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Everyone.
>>> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
>>> you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
>>> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
>>> 
>>> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
>>> the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
>>> bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
>>> toward other things.
>>> 
>>> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the 
>>> other.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dani
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RE: facebook app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Davy,

Look for my other post, I tried this again and it is in fact working, maybe 
when I tried it before I lifted too soon after the triple tone or wasn't quite 
focused on the search field, but I can now get this to work consistently.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

Sieghard you are right, this is really just the same here in Belgium. It does 
not work at all, but stopping voiceover does the trick.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: facebook app

Hi Daniel,

I don't know about others, but for me this work-around is not working, double 
tap and hold and then letting go when the tone sounds does nothing on my 6S 
Plus and neither does split-tapping or anything else with Voiceover running.
The only work-around which works for me is to turn Voiceover off, then tap the 
search field and start Voiceover up again. I find this is not very difficult to 
do since you can orient on the mute switch, the search box on my 6S Plus is 
just on the screen next to the mute switch and I can tap it everytime I tried.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Miller
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

Hi. There's a workaround. Double tap and hold on the search box, and then 
released your finger when you hear the triple tone from voiceover.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 16, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:
>
> No, you aren't.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Walter Harper
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: facebook app
>
> Thanks so much.  I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 16, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, its bug in the app.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Walter Harper
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: facebook app
>>
>> Hello all,
>> Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone 
>> the search button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an everything.
>> Can anyone help?
>> Walter
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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Michael Feir]

Hey Sieghard. We have quite different tastes in apps and she's a bit
wary of joining our iTUNES accounts in any way. Haven't heard from
many people at all who actually use it. Jonathan Mosen's the only one
who comes to mind.

On 5/16/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Just a tip regarding buying apps. KNFB Reader has family sharing turned on.
> If you set up family sharing and add your wife as your family member, she
> could have downloaded KNFB Reader at no extra cost since you already
> purchased it.
> Many apps allow family sharing, you should check it out since there is often
> no reason to buy an app twice.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Michael Feir
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?
>
> Hi Dani. I was fortunate enough to have someone purchase the KNFB Reader app
> for me. However, I can honestly say that I would have purchased it myself if
> necessary and never regretted the investment. I knew that with utter
> certainty the first day I had the app. Prior to getting it, I was using
> Kurzweil1000 on my Windows PC for my OCR needs. I had tried Prizmo and
> another app but had never been able to take a good enough picture due to a
> lack of guidance.
>
> I haven't had a scanner on my desk since about a week after I got the KNFB
> Reader app. It simply became obvious by that point that I'd never want to
> use one again All through that first week, I kept expecting to find some
> reason why I'd want to hold onto my scanner. However, in every case, I got
> results that were just as good and/or better. Those results only took
> seconds at most from the time I laid out a sheet to be read to the time I
> heard enough to know what the page was.
>
> Being on social assistance, I know how tight money can get. Both my wife and
> I have the KNFB Reader app. She bought her copy for herself after hearing me
> use mine. I've told two friends, also on social assistance and feeling the
> financial pinch about the sale this week. I know they're in the best of
> hands with this app and won't regret their purchase of it either. I use the
> app every day to read my mail. I've used it to read instructions on boxes,
> and even to do things it wasn't designed for like reading beer bottles and
> labels on soup cans. While updating to Windows10, there are long stretches
> when you computer won't speak to you. I used KNFB Reader to read the screen
> and learn that the update was still progressing. I've read signs my cane has
> contacted on pathways I was walking along. Nothing says things have to be
> flat and horizontal to be read. One thing to note is that ambient lighting
> makes a big difference. The only times my lights are on are when I'm having
> sighted guests or taking pictures of pages or objects.
> The app will make use of your i device's camera flash so even in dark
> conditions, it's worth a shot.
>
> On the first day I got KNFB Reader, I also got one of those huge folded
> sheets of mail from the Ontario government. You know the ones which are big
> enough to be posters? Sighted people must find them easy to just look down
> and take the contents in. Those sheets are nightmares to try and scan since
> they're too big to fit in most flat-bed scanners. You're basically reduced
> to lining up a short and long side of the page with your scanner and hoping
> to get something meaningful. If you manage to read enough to figure out what
> the blasted thing's about after a few tries, you feel like you've won a
> wrestling match. I laid the sheet on my dining room table, turned on the
> lights, and proceeded to use the field of view report. I continued to raise
> my iPHONE flat above the page while double-tapping the field of view report
> button until it told me that all four edges of the sheet were visible. I
> then made certain that the tilt guidance vibrations had stopped so I knew I
> had it as flat as possible. I then took the picture and began to hear a
> nearly perfect scan of this monster page read out to me. The recognition
> process was just so much faster than anything I had ever thought possible.
> It blew my mind.
>
> I don't usually write emails like this before 5 AM but I thought I'd better
> do so in this case. This is one of those times when you should pounce. You
> don't have to pay for updates to the app. Put in the time to practice lining
> up pages and you won't need more than one or two field of view reports
> before you take the picture to be scanned. As long as I have an iPHONE or
> could get an iPOD in a real pinch, I know I won't need to worry about
> reading print.
>
>
> On 5/16/16, Dani Pagador  wrote:
>> Hi, Everyone.
>> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
>> you who have, and use it, why would you 

Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Well, just to balance it all i can not get the knfb reader to work. No matter 
what i do, how i twist my hands, the phone or the paper, i’m never ever able to 
get all for corners of a document visible and i am not able to get a full 
documents worth of text out of the reader. Luckily i only use it for scanning 
mail and then only when i know my home help will come and help me sort the mail 
out afterward so then it doesn’t matter if what comes out is gibberish as long 
as i can get a sentence or two out of it to know where the mail i scan might 
come from.
/Krister

> 16 maj 2016 kl. 16:47 skrev Esther Levegnale :
> 
> Hi, All!
> 
> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For years, 
> I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought that was 
> the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB Reader has it 
> all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried Prizmo and had 
> to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one reason or 
> another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when you 
> have a page that's longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to put 
> into the StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much 
> easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
> 
> Esther Levegnale
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
>> now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how accurate 
>> it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move slightly when 
>> holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this reason, the app 
>> could only be so good at scanning.
>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how 
>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>> 
>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
>> scanning needs!!
>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
>> just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
>> scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient in 
>> getting things done.
>> 
>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the 
>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price.  
>> And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the 
>> cost.
>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
>> being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>> 
>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have 
>> had with the app.
>> I hope this has been helpful.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Everyone.
>>> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
>>> you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
>>> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
>>> 
>>> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
>>> the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
>>> bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
>>> toward other things.
>>> 
>>> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the 
>>> other.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dani
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Re: facebook app

[Davy Cuppens]

Sieghard you are right, this is really just the same here in Belgium. It 
does not work at all, but stopping voiceover does the trick.


-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: facebook app

Hi Daniel,

I don't know about others, but for me this work-around is not working, 
double tap and hold and then letting go when the tone sounds does nothing on 
my 6S Plus and neither does split-tapping or anything else with Voiceover 
running.
The only work-around which works for me is to turn Voiceover off, then tap 
the search field and start Voiceover up again. I find this is not very 
difficult to do since you can orient on the mute switch, the search box on 
my 6S Plus is just on the screen next to the mute switch and I can tap it 
everytime I tried.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Daniel Miller

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

Hi. There's a workaround. Double tap and hold on the search box, and then 
released your finger when you hear the triple tone from voiceover.


Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus


On May 16, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:

No, you aren't.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Walter Harper

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

Thanks so much.  I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong

Sent from my iPhone


On May 16, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:

Hi, its bug in the app.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Walter Harper

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: facebook app

Hello all,
Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone the 
search button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an everything. 
Can anyone help?

Walter

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RE: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Donnie,

I think I don't have to endorse KNFB Reader any further since pretty much all 
that is good has been said about it. It's one of these apps which I think are a 
must-have for anybody who needs to do OCR even if it's only occasionally since 
it works so darn well.
One thing I thought I add to the discussion is that you can reduce the price of 
KNFB Reader even more by at least 10% or maybe 20% if you look for places where 
iTunes gift cards are on sale. Mary recently posted that you could buy iTunes 
gift cards from eBay via Paypal for 20% off, you may also want to check 
retailers like Best Buy and so on to see if they have any deals. If you are 
able to get some gift cards at 20% off KNFB Reader effectively would only cost 
you $60 instead of the $75 sale price and that is a full 40% off the regular 
price.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dani Pagador
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:51 AM
To: iPhone for visually impaired 
Subject: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

Hi, Everyone.
I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
options that are VO- and blind-friendly?

I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
toward other things.

I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the other.

Thanks,
Dani

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RE: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Michael,

Just a tip regarding buying apps. KNFB Reader has family sharing turned on. If 
you set up family sharing and add your wife as your family member, she could 
have downloaded KNFB Reader at no extra cost since you already purchased it.
Many apps allow family sharing, you should check it out since there is often no 
reason to buy an app twice.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

Hi Dani. I was fortunate enough to have someone purchase the KNFB Reader app 
for me. However, I can honestly say that I would have purchased it myself if 
necessary and never regretted the investment. I knew that with utter certainty 
the first day I had the app. Prior to getting it, I was using Kurzweil1000 on 
my Windows PC for my OCR needs. I had tried Prizmo and another app but had 
never been able to take a good enough picture due to a lack of guidance.

I haven't had a scanner on my desk since about a week after I got the KNFB 
Reader app. It simply became obvious by that point that I'd never want to use 
one again All through that first week, I kept expecting to find some reason why 
I'd want to hold onto my scanner. However, in every case, I got results that 
were just as good and/or better. Those results only took seconds at most from 
the time I laid out a sheet to be read to the time I heard enough to know what 
the page was.

Being on social assistance, I know how tight money can get. Both my wife and I 
have the KNFB Reader app. She bought her copy for herself after hearing me use 
mine. I've told two friends, also on social assistance and feeling the 
financial pinch about the sale this week. I know they're in the best of hands 
with this app and won't regret their purchase of it either. I use the app every 
day to read my mail. I've used it to read instructions on boxes, and even to do 
things it wasn't designed for like reading beer bottles and labels on soup 
cans. While updating to Windows10, there are long stretches when you computer 
won't speak to you. I used KNFB Reader to read the screen and learn that the 
update was still progressing. I've read signs my cane has contacted on pathways 
I was walking along. Nothing says things have to be flat and horizontal to be 
read. One thing to note is that ambient lighting makes a big difference. The 
only times my lights are on are when I'm having sighted guests or taking 
pictures of pages or objects.
The app will make use of your i device's camera flash so even in dark 
conditions, it's worth a shot.

On the first day I got KNFB Reader, I also got one of those huge folded sheets 
of mail from the Ontario government. You know the ones which are big enough to 
be posters? Sighted people must find them easy to just look down and take the 
contents in. Those sheets are nightmares to try and scan since they're too big 
to fit in most flat-bed scanners. You're basically reduced to lining up a short 
and long side of the page with your scanner and hoping to get something 
meaningful. If you manage to read enough to figure out what the blasted thing's 
about after a few tries, you feel like you've won a wrestling match. I laid the 
sheet on my dining room table, turned on the lights, and proceeded to use the 
field of view report. I continued to raise my iPHONE flat above the page while 
double-tapping the field of view report button until it told me that all four 
edges of the sheet were visible. I then made certain that the tilt guidance 
vibrations had stopped so I knew I had it as flat as possible. I then took the 
picture and began to hear a nearly perfect scan of this monster page read out 
to me. The recognition process was just so much faster than anything I had ever 
thought possible. It blew my mind.

I don't usually write emails like this before 5 AM but I thought I'd better do 
so in this case. This is one of those times when you should pounce. You don't 
have to pay for updates to the app. Put in the time to practice lining up pages 
and you won't need more than one or two field of view reports before you take 
the picture to be scanned. As long as I have an iPHONE or could get an iPOD in 
a real pinch, I know I won't need to worry about reading print.


On 5/16/16, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> Hi, Everyone.
> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of 
> you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the 
> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
>
> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all 
> the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't 
> bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go 
> toward other things.
>
> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the 
> 

Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, All!

I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For years, 
I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought that was the 
cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB Reader has it all 
over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried Prizmo and had to use 
my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one reason or another, I 
couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when you have a page 
that's longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to put into the 
StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much easier for me.  
Just thought I'd put my 2 cents' worth in here!  Thanks.

Esther Levegnale

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+

> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
> now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how accurate 
> it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move slightly when 
> holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this reason, the app 
> could only be so good at scanning.
> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how good 
> and accurate of a job it did!!
> 
> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
> scanning needs!!
> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
> just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
> scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient in 
> getting things done.
> 
> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the cost 
> of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price.  And 
> since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the cost.
> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
> being able to save documents to Dropbox.
> 
> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have 
> had with the app.
> I hope this has been helpful.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Everyone.
>> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
>> you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
>> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
>> 
>> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
>> the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
>> bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
>> toward other things.
>> 
>> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the other.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dani
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Re: heavy bug in fb app update

[Mary Otten]

It must be just my luck. The split tap is not working for me either. Very odd.
Mary


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> On May 16, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Donna  wrote:
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> Try a split tap on the search field. This works for me every time. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>> 
>> This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.
>>  
>> From: Daniel Miller
>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>>  
>> hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you 
>> can still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.
>> 
>>> On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>>  
>>> Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.
>>>  
>>> The search function can nolonger be used for voiceover users.
>>> Regards
>>> Davy
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Re: heavy bug in fb app update

[Mary Otten]

That workaround is definitely not working here on my 6S.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2016, at 4:39 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi, yes it does. I just tried it literally two seconds ago, and got it to 
> work 100% of the time. Double tap and hold on the search field, wait for the 
> triple tone, then release your finger. Works all the time.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>> 
>> This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.
>>  
>> From: Daniel Miller
>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>>  
>> hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you 
>> can still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.
>> 
>>> On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>>  
>>> Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.
>>>  
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>>> Regards
>>> Davy
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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Jennie Facer]

Like Richard said, it really depends on how much time you have to work with the 
apps. Not to say apps like Prizmo and them are any better, it just takes too 
much time in my humble oppinion to use them. It takesa lot of time, and I have 
found the knfb app to be very timely even though it too takes practice.
Jenn

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On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:50 AM -0700, "Dani Pagador"  
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Hi, Everyone.
I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
options that are VO- and blind-friendly?

I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
toward other things.

I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the other.

Thanks,
Dani

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RE: heavy bug in fb app update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hmm, I just tried it again and while I have done so several times yesterday 
when it didn’t work, it does work now.
It does sometimes seem to matter where exactly the focus is, I just tried it by 
swiping left all the way until I got to “Search, dimmed” and it didn’t work 
twice in a row, then I swipe left one more time so it made the bonk sound and 
then it worked. When I find the search field by touch it seems to work better 
if I make sure I slide my finger all the way to the left against the edge of my 
case.
But I think it’s pretty safe to say that it seems to be consistant although I 
can’t get it to work the way Donna says with a split tap.
Davy, make sure you double tap and hold and don’t lift your finger too soon, 
make sure the triple tone sounds and then give it another half second or second 
before  you lift your finger. If it doesn’t work the first time try it a second 
time and move your finger a bit more towards the edge, if you have a case it is 
easier as you can put your finger right up against the case.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

I can confirm that the workaround for the search works.
/Krister

16 maj 2016 kl. 14:44 skrev Davy Cuppens 
>:

I am very sorry to tell that it is really not working here at all, even not in 
the more tab of the screen.
It is eventually a bug!
Regards
Davy

From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

Hi, yes it does. I just tried it literally two seconds ago, and got it to work 
100% of the time. Double tap and hold on the search field, wait for the triple 
tone, then release your finger. Works all the time.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens 
> wrote:
This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.

From: Daniel Miller
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you can 
still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.

On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens 
> wrote:

Hi folks

Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.

The search function can nolonger be used for voiceover users.
Regards
Davy
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RE: Question about setting up an Outlook account

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Anita,

I think you are confusing Outlook the program as in Outlook which is the email 
client that is part of the Office suite with Outlook.com email accounts. I 
believe Terri means she has created an @Outlook.com email account.

OK, Terri, I am not totally sure what the problem is without knowing more 
details. If you want to contact me off-list I’ll see if I can help.
When you set up your Outlook account, did you by any chance turn on 2-factor 
authentication? If so, you can’t use the password you set up to login online as 
the password for setting up the account on your phone or computer. You will 
have to login to your Microsoft account (your new Outlook.com email and 
password are your Microsoft account email and password) and generate so-called 
app specific passwords which are 16-digit passwords (all numbers, no letters). 
You generate a unique password for each device, if you have an iPhone and a PC 
where you want to set up the account you would have to generate two 
app-specific passwords and use one on your iPhone and the other to set up the 
account on your PC.
But I of course don’t know if you enabled this and if that is the problem. You 
can email me at siegh...@live.ca and if you like I can 
call you or you can call me to discuss further. Let’ take it off-list from here 
since this probably won’t be of much interest to the rest of the list.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gadget Girl
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about setting up an Outlook account

Yes, Google did change it.  You now have to allow less secure apps for gmail.  
You have to go into your Google account and allow ”less secure apps”.  So, open 
a new Google browser.  Log into your email account you want to add to Outlook.  
When you get there, type the following string: 
https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps and press enter.  When 
you get to the new screen, turn the ”allow less secure apps” feature on.  Once 
you see the updated screen, you are good to go so log out.

Regards,
Gadget Girl
Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri.

On May 16, 2016, at 1:14 AM, Terri Stimmel 
> wrote:
Hello everyone,


The other day, I went and created an Outlook account. I did this, because I 
have started having a lot of problems with my Gmail account, which I have had 
for quite a long time.
It keeps marking mail as Spam, and whatever I do, I can not seem to fix the 
issue.

Anyway, I had no problem getting the account set up. I had no problems, from 
what I can tell, getting it set up on my IPhone.
However, when I try to send mail from my IPhone, using the new Outlook account, 
my messages are not sent. I am told that my message was rejected by the server.

What does this me?
Why is this happening?
Is there an easy way to fix it?

Thank you,

Terri
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RE: facebook app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Daniel,

I don't know about others, but for me this work-around is not working, double 
tap and hold and then letting go when the tone sounds does nothing on my 6S 
Plus and neither does split-tapping or anything else with Voiceover running.
The only work-around which works for me is to turn Voiceover off, then tap the 
search field and start Voiceover up again. I find this is not very difficult to 
do since you can orient on the mute switch, the search box on my 6S Plus is 
just on the screen next to the mute switch and I can tap it everytime I tried.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Miller
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

Hi. There's a workaround. Double tap and hold on the search box, and then 
released your finger when you hear the triple tone from voiceover.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 16, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:
> 
> No, you aren't.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Walter Harper
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: facebook app
> 
> Thanks so much.  I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 16, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, its bug in the app.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Of Walter Harper
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: facebook app
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone the 
>> search button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an everything.  Can 
>> anyone help?
>> Walter 
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RE: bluetooth not finding new devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You have to put most new Bluetooth devices into pairing mode the first time you 
connect. Are you doing that?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
martinnelso...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 3:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bluetooth not finding new devices

 Hello; I have try connecting connecting it to our car is a Bluetooth device. 
My wife's iPhone does recognize it and collect. Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2016, at 3:12 AM, Liel Bensimonליאל בן סימון‎ 
> wrote:
Hello Martin, what do you try to connect your iPhone? not all devices can 
connect with iPhone. if you want connect a braille display look in menual that 
arived with braille display inorder to connect with iPhone.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-16 במאי 2016, בשעה 4:10, 
‏‏> 
‏> כתב/ה:
Hello: I am using an iphone 6 plus and the latest build of ios. I am finding 
that my bluetooth is not idenifying new devices. It does connect to devices 
already found. Any ideas as to how to fix this?
Thank you.
Martin Nelson
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RE: accessible 800 phone service?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Cristobal,

Also keep in mind that some of these services work well for people outside the 
US where Google Voice is not really supported. Here in Canada I can’t even get 
Skype-In numbers and it makes little sense for me to get an American Skype 
number. I can’t even get a local phone number to use as a Voip number or port 
my existing business number to a Voip service at this time. This is possible in 
the larger cities, but in the smaller communities and more remote areas  of 
Canada there still is little competition and local numbers are not available 
for Voip or porting.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

I’m a bigtime  Google Voice user and use the texting as well as call 
forwarding/filtering features with a separate Skype number as a backup and 
secondary number for my business.
I’ve been contemplating getting an 800 number as work has expanded beyond my 
local area to more state wide.
Can anyone comment on how flexible any of these 800 number services are in 
regards to forwarding to other numbers and or texting? I know worse comes to 
worse, I can always keep my GV number for strictly texting purposes, but GV 
being able to forward to multiple numbers is incredibly helpful. I have it go 
to my Skype number at my main desktop as well as my dedicated business cell in 
case I have to step away from the PC. The Google Voice as well as the GVConnect 
iOS apps for iPhone are completely accessible which facilitates things too.
Any input would be helpful.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

The reviews between two of the big cloud-based phone service companies, 
Ringcentral and Grasshopper, seem to indicate the both have comparible 
features, but a slightly different approach. It seems Ringcentral’s support is 
rated somewhat better although I tried Ringcentral a few years ago and wasn’t 
overly impressed. As with many companies and this is mentioned online, 
Ringcentral is outsourcing support mostly to the Philippines and I certainly 
had a few people on the line back then where there was a bit of a language 
barrier. Grasshopper claims their support is in the US (Florida) and that they 
encourage customers to call support any time whereas Ringcentral encourages 
customers to use the Ringcentral.com for support first and only if really 
necessary to call support.

My guess is that Grasshopper may have stepped up a bit because in todays 
connected world online reviews can be very damaging and I don’t think in the 
long run any company can afford to have consistently bad reviews. I signed up 
for a Grasshopper toll free number and will try it for 30 days since they say 
they have a 30-day money back guaranty. I have downloaded the app and it seems 
very accessible where with Ringcentral there were a few issues if I remember 
correctly.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Malver
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible 800 phone service?

The American Council of the blind of Minnesota used to use grasshopper, and we 
found they had absolutely horrible customer service. We use magicJack now, but 
all we do is lie phone support. We don't meet or have mailboxes.
Hopefully, grasshopper has improved. It really did have some very cool features.

On May 15, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Scott Berry 
> wrote:
Why not take a look at www.grasshoper.com and see 
what they say.  I think I can refer you if you like what they offer.  They have 
some really cool features.


On May 15, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Ann Chiappetta 
> wrote:

Hi,
Anyone know of  toll free phone services? Our organization is looking for one. 
This isn’t like teleconferencing, it’s for  an information line.
TX
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RE: accessible 800 phone service?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is true for many people, but there still are many people who don’t have 
unlimited calling included in their cell plans because maybe they only have a 
prepaid service and I think there still is a place for toll free numbers which 
themselves have become very inexpensive and still show customers that a 
business cares about letting them get in touch at no cost to them, it’s just 
good customer service. I currently don’t have a toll free number since my 
retail business so far has been primarily local and regional although that does 
include some communities or cities nearby which are long distance. Nobody has 
really complained, but now I have a website and we are very actively trying to 
market it and to build our online sales and I think a toll free number is once 
again something I should have as the primary contact number on our website.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Donald Moore
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 5:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

Truthfully, from what I’ve seen is that between cell services and the really 
inexpensive long distances plans most landline users have any more, other than 
for PR purposes, there really is no need for 800 service anyway.  My cell 
service has free long distance service for the United States, my landline would 
cost more by the time I add in phone features, if I didn’t take the flat rate 
long distance.

For a brand new affiliate like GDUIES, I’d probably think about not worrying 
too much about the 800 number, although I understand that almost everyone who 
counts has one for one reason or another.  Truthfully, when I have a choice to 
call a non-800 number or an 800 number, I choose the local number because I 
hate the thought of paying the  phone companies double.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

I’m a bigtime  Google Voice user and use the texting as well as call 
forwarding/filtering features with a separate Skype number as a backup and 
secondary number for my business.
I’ve been contemplating getting an 800 number as work has expanded beyond my 
local area to more state wide.
Can anyone comment on how flexible any of these 800 number services are in 
regards to forwarding to other numbers and or texting? I know worse comes to 
worse, I can always keep my GV number for strictly texting purposes, but GV 
being able to forward to multiple numbers is incredibly helpful. I have it go 
to my Skype number at my main desktop as well as my dedicated business cell in 
case I have to step away from the PC. The Google Voice as well as the GVConnect 
iOS apps for iPhone are completely accessible which facilitates things too.
Any input would be helpful.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

The reviews between two of the big cloud-based phone service companies, 
Ringcentral and Grasshopper, seem to indicate the both have comparible 
features, but a slightly different approach. It seems Ringcentral’s support is 
rated somewhat better although I tried Ringcentral a few years ago and wasn’t 
overly impressed. As with many companies and this is mentioned online, 
Ringcentral is outsourcing support mostly to the Philippines and I certainly 
had a few people on the line back then where there was a bit of a language 
barrier. Grasshopper claims their support is in the US (Florida) and that they 
encourage customers to call support any time whereas Ringcentral encourages 
customers to use the Ringcentral.com for support first and only if really 
necessary to call support.

My guess is that Grasshopper may have stepped up a bit because in todays 
connected world online reviews can be very damaging and I don’t think in the 
long run any company can afford to have consistently bad reviews. I signed up 
for a Grasshopper toll free number and will try it for 30 days since they say 
they have a 30-day money back guaranty. I have downloaded the app and it seems 
very accessible where with Ringcentral there were a few issues if I remember 
correctly.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Malver
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible 800 phone service?

The American Council of the blind of Minnesota used to use grasshopper, and we 
found they had absolutely horrible customer service. We use magicJack now, but 
all we do is lie phone support. We don't meet or have mailboxes.
Hopefully, grasshopper has improved. It really did have some very cool features.

On May 15, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Scott Berry 

Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Chris Chaffin]

Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how accurate it 
was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move slightly when holding 
up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this reason, the app could only 
be so good at scanning.
But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how good 
and accurate of a job it did!!

Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my computer. 
 The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my scanning needs!!
The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient in 
getting things done.

Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the cost 
of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price.  And 
since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the cost.
On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
being able to save documents to Dropbox.

Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have had 
with the app.
I hope this has been helpful.

Chris


> On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Everyone.
> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
> you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
> 
> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
> the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
> bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
> toward other things.
> 
> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the other.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dani
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RE: accessible 800 phone service?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you have an 800 number from Grasshopper, Ringcentral or any other company 
that offers cloud-based business grade phone systems they can be forward to 
whatever you want. I am going to try out Grasshopper and set up an account 
yesterday with a toll free number and I set it up so any calls to the toll free 
number will be forwarded to my cell phone. You can even set it up to only 
forward during certain hours during weekdays and weekends or make a complete 
custom schedule.
You can then make outgoing calls from the Grasshopper app and the people you 
call will see my toll free number on their call display and not my cell number.
For $10 a months you can add SMS to this as well.
Call blasting is another $10 a months, this will I believe allow you to set up 
multiple phone numbers and any calls will simultaneously ring all the numbers 
you set up and I guess whoever picks up first is answering the call.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

I’m a bigtime  Google Voice user and use the texting as well as call 
forwarding/filtering features with a separate Skype number as a backup and 
secondary number for my business.
I’ve been contemplating getting an 800 number as work has expanded beyond my 
local area to more state wide.
Can anyone comment on how flexible any of these 800 number services are in 
regards to forwarding to other numbers and or texting? I know worse comes to 
worse, I can always keep my GV number for strictly texting purposes, but GV 
being able to forward to multiple numbers is incredibly helpful. I have it go 
to my Skype number at my main desktop as well as my dedicated business cell in 
case I have to step away from the PC. The Google Voice as well as the GVConnect 
iOS apps for iPhone are completely accessible which facilitates things too.
Any input would be helpful.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessible 800 phone service?

The reviews between two of the big cloud-based phone service companies, 
Ringcentral and Grasshopper, seem to indicate the both have comparible 
features, but a slightly different approach. It seems Ringcentral’s support is 
rated somewhat better although I tried Ringcentral a few years ago and wasn’t 
overly impressed. As with many companies and this is mentioned online, 
Ringcentral is outsourcing support mostly to the Philippines and I certainly 
had a few people on the line back then where there was a bit of a language 
barrier. Grasshopper claims their support is in the US (Florida) and that they 
encourage customers to call support any time whereas Ringcentral encourages 
customers to use the Ringcentral.com for support first and only if really 
necessary to call support.

My guess is that Grasshopper may have stepped up a bit because in todays 
connected world online reviews can be very damaging and I don’t think in the 
long run any company can afford to have consistently bad reviews. I signed up 
for a Grasshopper toll free number and will try it for 30 days since they say 
they have a 30-day money back guaranty. I have downloaded the app and it seems 
very accessible where with Ringcentral there were a few issues if I remember 
correctly.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Malver
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessible 800 phone service?

The American Council of the blind of Minnesota used to use grasshopper, and we 
found they had absolutely horrible customer service. We use magicJack now, but 
all we do is lie phone support. We don't meet or have mailboxes.
Hopefully, grasshopper has improved. It really did have some very cool features.

On May 15, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Scott Berry 
> wrote:
Why not take a look at www.grasshoper.com and see 
what they say.  I think I can refer you if you like what they offer.  They have 
some really cool features.


On May 15, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Ann Chiappetta 
> wrote:

Hi,
Anyone know of  toll free phone services? Our organization is looking for one. 
This isn’t like teleconferencing, it’s for  an information line.
TX
Annie

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RE: aipoly

[Richard Turner]

It is a free app, so try it out.

Personally, I think TapTapSee does a better job with most things including 
colors because it will identify, for example, a man’s shirt with blue and white 
flowers, etc.

 

AIPoly is teachable, though, so it will likely get better in time.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jeremy Gilley
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: aipoly

 

Good morning all.

So, apparently aipoly made the news on how this could help the visually 
impaired.

The description of the app I guess also mentions that it is a color identifier?

Was just curious if anyone has used this app and how good it was?

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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Tom Lange]

Hi. I like and recommend KNFB Reader because of its simple user interface and, 
with proper lighting conditions, the quality of its scanning results. Based on 
what I've read on the list over the past several years and what I've heard from 
my students, I'd recommend avoiding the free OCR apps; you get what you pay 
for. That said, the best low-cost OCR app that I've run across and still use 
when I'm not necessarily looking for precision scanning is the Text Grabber 
app. I've often seen it in the app store on sale for only two or three dollars, 
and at at that price or even its standard price, its bang-for-the-buck factor 
is high. I've introduced a number of students who can't afford KNFB Reader  to 
Text Grabber and have yet to hear anyone complain about it. Hope this helps.
Tom 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
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> Hi, Everyone.
> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
> you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
> 
> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
> the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
> bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
> toward other things.
> 
> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the other.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dani
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RE: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
You've had some good answers already, but I'm going to throw my two cents worth 
in.

It really depends on how much scanning you are going to do and how much time 
you want to take doing it.  It also depends on whether having paragraph breaks 
is important to you.

KNFB Reader is by far the fastest and easiest scanning app to use, hands down.  
It does an excellent job with accuracy, you can save files, you can continue to 
add pages to a document so you end up with one multipage document instead of 
many one page documents.  If you have a stand, you can even put it into a mode 
where it detects the turning of the page and automatically takes the next 
picture, then when you are done, it processes the scanned pages.  I wouldn't do 
more than 30 pages in a sitting though because of some issues.

ON the other hand, Prizmo does an equally good job with accuracy, tries to 
maintain paragraph breaks, and also can save documents.  I do not think it has 
an automatic mode.  You can take scans of many pages and then export it as one 
file and have it do the processing of all the pages then.  However, it takes 
about 6 or 10 steps to get a page scanned and recognized where KNFB Reader does 
it in one.

So, it really depends on how much time you want to take to get a good scan.

With KNFB Reader being on sale for $74.99 today through Friday, you really have 
to ask yourself is the time saved and the ease of use worth the extra money?  
Prizmo is still $9.99 I think.  

I only mention those two because they are the best for being able to save a 
document.  TextGrabber does a good job and is a couple dollars less than 
Prizmo, but you can't save documents without copying and pasting your results 
into another app.

In my opinion, none of the other OCR apps are worth anything.

I hope that helps,
Richard


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Dani Pagador
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:51 AM
To: iPhone for visually impaired 
Subject: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

Hi, Everyone.
I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
options that are VO- and blind-friendly?

I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
toward other things.

I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the other.

Thanks,
Dani

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Re: major linked in problems

[Keith Bundy]

Thanks for the good information, Jed! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> ah, well, we now have a solution.
> For those of you that use linked in, there i guess have been changes to the 
> app.  I was having a problem viewing my network.  So, here's what you do.
> Go to my network tab.  There is a thing that says view invitations and 
> connections.  Click on that.
> What use to be there is another button called my connections.  It's a little 
> deceiving.
> Now you have to click on add new connections, and you'll see your entire 
> network.
> It's a litle deveiving just cause of how it is labeled.
> 
>> On 5/13/2016 3:37 PM, Keith B. wrote:
>> I can't shed any light on this, but I can confirm that is a problem I am
>> having as well. I hope someone can assist us with this.
>> 
>> On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 1:57:00 PM UTC-5, Jed Barton wrote:
>> 
>>Hey guys,
>> 
>>OK, i really need some help ehre, cause i'm getting nowhere.  I am
>>starting to use linked in a lot, and have run in to a major
>>accessibility issue.  My connections seem to have gone away.
>>  I click on the my network tab, and it says view invitations and
>>connections.  It says my invitations heading, but i see no connections,
>>i use to see connections, but no more.  Can anyone shed some light?
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Re: heavy bug in fb app update

[Daniel Miller]

Interestingly enough that we're getting mixed results whether the  workaround 
works. I guess those of us with the 6S plus are just lucky. :-)

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 16, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> I can confirm that the workaround for the search works.
> /Krister
> 
>> 16 maj 2016 kl. 14:44 skrev Davy Cuppens :
>> 
>> I am very sorry to tell that it is really not working here at all, even not 
>> in the more tab of the screen.
>> It is eventually a bug!
>> Regards
>> Davy
>>  
>> From: Daniel Miller
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>>  
>> Hi, yes it does. I just tried it literally two seconds ago, and got it to 
>> work 100% of the time. Double tap and hold on the search field, wait for the 
>> triple tone, then release your finger. Works all the time.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.
>>>  
>>> From: Daniel Miller
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>>>  
>>> hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you 
>>> can still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.
>>> 
 On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
 Hi folks
  
 Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.
  
 The search function can nolonger be used for voiceover users.
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Re: Question about setting up an Outlook account

[Gadget Girl]

Yes, Google did change it.  You now have to allow less secure apps for gmail.  
You have to go into your Google account and allow ”less secure apps”.  So, open 
a new Google browser.  Log into your email account you want to add to Outlook.  
When you get there, type the following string: 
https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps and press enter.  When 
you get to the new screen, turn the ”allow less secure apps” feature on.  Once 
you see the updated screen, you are good to go so log out.

Regards, 
Gadget Girl
Sent from my Apple gadget and dictated using Siri.

> On May 16, 2016, at 1:14 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> The other day, I went and created an Outlook account. I did this, because I 
> have started having a lot of problems with my Gmail account, which I have had 
> for quite a long time.
> It keeps marking mail as Spam, and whatever I do, I can not seem to fix the 
> issue.
> 
> Anyway, I had no problem getting the account set up. I had no problems, from 
> what I can tell, getting it set up on my IPhone.
> However, when I try to send mail from my IPhone, using the new Outlook 
> account, my messages are not sent. I am told that my message was rejected by 
> the server.
> 
> What does this me?
> Why is this happening?
> Is there an easy way to fix it?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
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Re: facebook app

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks

I can confirm that it is not working at all with a 5s but there is however a 
difficult workaround.
1. Slide to the left till you hear search: grey. Hold on that button very 
precisely just next to your mute button just a little little bit lower.

2. Then put vo out with another finger doubletapping on the home button.
3. Then just click again on the precise area of the real search button once 
shortly.
4. Put vo back on and then indeed you can type a search input. But this is 
an annoying bug.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Krister Ekstrom

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

I can confirm that the workaround with the search works 100 percent of the 
time here to. Using a 6s+

/Krister


16 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Davy Cuppens :

Hi folks

tis is a tramendous bug in the app update, so don't do the upgrade for 
people finding the search feature important. The rest of the app works 
fine.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Walter Harper
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: facebook app

Hello all,
Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone the 
search button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an everything. 
Can anyone help?

Walter

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Re: heavy bug in fb app update

[Krister Ekstrom]

I can confirm that the workaround for the search works.
/Krister

> 16 maj 2016 kl. 14:44 skrev Davy Cuppens :
> 
> I am very sorry to tell that it is really not working here at all, even not 
> in the more tab of the screen.
> It is eventually a bug!
> Regards
> Davy
>  
> From: Daniel Miller 
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>  
> Hi, yes it does. I just tried it literally two seconds ago, and got it to 
> work 100% of the time. Double tap and hold on the search field, wait for the 
> triple tone, then release your finger. Works all the time.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
> On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  > wrote:
> 
>> This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.
>>  
>> From: Daniel Miller 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>>  
>> hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you 
>> can still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.
>> 
>> On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens > > wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>>  
>>> Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.
>>>  
>>> The search function can nolonger be used for voiceover users.
>>> Regards
>>> Davy
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Re: facebook app

[Krister Ekstrom]

I can confirm that the workaround with the search works 100 percent of the time 
here to. Using a 6s+
/Krister

> 16 maj 2016 kl. 14:39 skrev Davy Cuppens :
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> tis is a tramendous bug in the app update, so don't do the upgrade for people 
> finding the search feature important. The rest of the app works fine.
> Regards
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Walter Harper
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 1:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: facebook app
> 
> Hello all,
> Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone the search 
> button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an everything.  Can anyone 
> help?
> Walter
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Re: facebook app

[Davy Cuppens]

No, I know many people where this gives no result just like here.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Daniel Miller

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:02 PM
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Subject: Re: facebook app

Hi. There's a workaround. Double tap and hold on the search box, and then 
released your finger when you hear the triple tone from voiceover.


Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus


On May 16, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:

No, you aren't.



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Thanks so much.  I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong

Sent from my iPhone


On May 16, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:

Hi, its bug in the app.


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Hello all,
Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone the 
search button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an everything. 
Can anyone help?

Walter

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Re: heavy bug in fb app update

[Davy Cuppens]

I am very sorry to tell that it is really not working here at all, even not in 
the more tab of the screen.
It is eventually a bug!
Regards
Davy 

From: Daniel Miller 
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Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

Hi, yes it does. I just tried it literally two seconds ago, and got it to work 
100% of the time. Double tap and hold on the search field, wait for the triple 
tone, then release your finger. Works all the time.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:


  This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.

  From: Daniel Miller 
  Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update

  hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you can 
still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.

  On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens  wrote:

Hi folks 

Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.

The search function can nolonger be used for voiceover users.
Regards
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Re: facebook app

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi folks

tis is a tramendous bug in the app update, so don't do the upgrade for 
people finding the search feature important. The rest of the app works fine.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
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Hello all,
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Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Feliciano Godoy]

It is simply great. The user interface, support and the fact that you can save 
files on the app. Definitely a great app.

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> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
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Re: heavy bug in fb app update

[Donna]

Try a split tap on the search field. This works for me every time. 

Donna

> On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
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Re: Where Does Iphone Keep WhatsApp Videos?

[Davy Cuppens]

Sieghard 

In settings of whatsapp, you can set multimedia to be saved to your phone or 
not.
Regards 
Davy 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 6:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Where Does Iphone Keep WhatsApp Videos?

Hi Fazil,

 

I assume they are not accessible directly, but you may have a share option 
which probably allows you to save a video or picture to your camera roll, 
Dropbox, OneDrive or whatever other storage services you may have. Maybe you 
can also email it to yourself, but of course since a video may be too large 
this may only result in a link getting emailed.

 

Good luck,

Sieghard

 

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Fazil
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Subject: Where Does Iphone Keep WhatsApp Videos?

 

Hi, list.

Where Does Iphone Keep WhatsApp Videos?

Thanks!

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Re: facebook app

[Daniel Miller]

Hi. There's a workaround. Double tap and hold on the search box, and then 
released your finger when you hear the triple tone from voiceover.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 16, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:
> 
> No, you aren't.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Walter Harper
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:43 PM
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> Subject: Re: facebook app
> 
> Thanks so much.  I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, its bug in the app.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Subject: facebook app
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone the 
>> search button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an everything.  Can 
>> anyone help?
>> Walter 
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RE: facebook app

[Afik Sofir]

No, you aren't.



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Walter Harper
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facebook app

Thanks so much.  I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:
> 
> Hi, its bug in the app.
> 
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> Subject: facebook app
> 
> Hello all,
> Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone the search 
> button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an everything.  Can anyone 
> help?
> Walter 
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Re: facebook app

[Walter Harper]

Thanks so much.  I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Afik Sofir  wrote:
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> Hi, its bug in the app.
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Re: heavy bug in fb app update

[Daniel Miller]

Hi, yes it does. I just tried it literally two seconds ago, and got it to work 
100% of the time. Double tap and hold on the search field, wait for the triple 
tone, then release your finger. Works all the time.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 16, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> This is really not true. Tis workaround does not work here.
>  
> From: Daniel Miller
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: heavy bug in fb app update
>  
> hi. That's not true. While voiceover claims the search box is damned, you can 
> still double tap and hold and release and it will bring up the keyboard.
> 
>> On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>> Hi folks
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>> Do not upgrade to the latest fb app update.
>>  
>> The search function can nolonger be used for voiceover users.
>> Regards
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RE: facebook app

[Afik Sofir]

Hi, its bug in the app.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: facebook app

Hello all,
Have anyone noticed that when using the facebook app on the Iphone the search 
button is dim?  I have tried to reinstall the app an everything.  Can anyone 
help?
Walter 

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