Re: for Joshua

[Robin]

MyBad & MyApologies: Thought   "what" I was Talkin'About was "Clear".
 My VZW (VerizonWireless) iPhoneXS MAX, 
which  I  purchased  in  LateSpring2019 came 
EquippedWith Apple's iOS12, &   updated it to the 
Last iOS12, which was iOS12.4.1.

&
IN  November 2020, I  was  Fortunate to Receive 
a  NEW  iPhone11PRO, which came EquippedWith 
iOS13, so I  Left  that iPhone's Update 
automatically Because it was "buggy" & use it 
primarily on WiFi or MobileHotSpot

&
My iPhoneXS MAX as MyPrimary iOSDevice because 
the iOS software is More Stable For me &   some 
of the MobileApps aren't  workin' on iOS13, Like 
MoneyReader. Yes, I  know there 
are  "substitutes" Like EyeNote & CashReader & 
Microsoft's SeeingAI to Fill the Void. (Note: 
CashReader isn't FREE Like MoneyReader was).


Hope, Iwas Able to Clear ThingsUp for ya, if 
not,   Feel free to Ask More Questions, & I will 
Do MyBest to try & Fill in the Blanks: To Clear ThingsUp for ya


Blessin's
At 08:59 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
I was talking about my iPhone that they wouldn't 
help me with a good while back unless I 
updated.I don't know what kind of device you're 
talking about, as I am not familiar with 
it   but glad you got an answer from them. The iPhone update is not bad.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> Okay, Ms. Shirley
>  After I  received  Your MessagePosting, 
which  AppearsBelow this MessagePosting of 
Mine,  I  decided to Call Apple's 
AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport @ 
877-204-3930, To InQuire about "what" you said, 
&  I was informed that I wouldn't Be 
Denied  TelephoneSupport from Apple's 
AppleAccessibility because I  refused to 
update  My VZW XS  MAX  from  iOS12.4.1 
to  WhatEver is the Latest iOS13 iteration.

>
> (I  Presume)
> it's because  I  didn't  Update Past iOS12, 
as  if I did  "they" could say  that the 
BugFixes were Resolved in a  Future iOS update 
of iOS13, but since I  refused to UpdatePast 
iOS12.4.1, I can't Be Denied TelephoneSupport 
from AppleAccessibility on My VZW XS MAX

> At 06:30 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> I just hope the device you don't have it on, 
you won't need help from Apple Accessibility 
because they told me they require you to have 
whatever device you're requesting help with, to 
be updated to the latest version or they won't 
help you so every since they told me that, I 
make sure my devices are all updated.

>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >
>> > You Ask? How will "I Know"?
>> > If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to 
ThisThread, I  said, that I  have Apple's iOS13 
on My VZW 11PRO PrimarilyBecause that is the 
iOS version that it was LaunchedWith, but My 
VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs 
AssociatedWith iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it 
to iOS13, so it Remains on  its Last Update, which  is iOS12.4.1.

>> > MayBe just MayBe
>> > You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah, 
that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm not that TechSavy

>> >
>> > MyApologies, if this MessagePosting 
offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.

>> > I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them
>> >
>> > Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
>> > At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> >> It's not that bad. How would you know how 
bad it is since you haven't updated? Some 
people are just unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.

>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 
IS  Buggy, which is "Why" I  Refuse to Update 
My VZW XS MAX, as it's going to Stay ON 
iOS12.4.1, which is the iOS  version it was 
when I  Purchased it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs 
AssociatedWith iOS13 because "They" are present 
on My VZW 11PRO, & that  MobileDevice is ON 
AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice To Update or Not

>> >> > At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> >> >> You can turn automatic update off but 
I don't see what the big deal is with not updating.

>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua 
Hendrickson  wrote:

>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ï»Ã šÃ‚¿Well, the 
good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
>> >> >> > thought I would.  The only reason 
why I updated, was it seemed like

>> >> >> > apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> >> >> > have the option of saying 
later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> >> >> > that might happen when you 
update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
>> >> >> > the screen.  Just call apple 
accessibility and they will help you get

>> >> >> > rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> >> >> > battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> >> >> > page one of your phone to see 
that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> >> >> > Siri current battery level and she 
will tell me the battery level of
>> >> >> > my iPhone and a bluetooth 
device.  If you 

Re: anyone out there using smart news

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chris, and anyone else who uses smart news
Somebody told me that there is an actual support email support at smart 
news.com. I didn’t see that when I was looking for somewhere to write them. 
But, if you use this app and you think that it would be nice if SmartView were 
the default, I urge you to send an email to that effect to 
supp...@smartnews.com, and hopefully we’ll get something useful. I’m not 
holding my breath, but you never know.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:35 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
>  Thanks a million marry. I never noticed this feature before I read your 
> reply. You are right, i have not seen your email when I replied to Paul’s 
> question.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 11:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> As I think I said in a previous message, which you probably haven’t seen 
>> when you made your reply, if you click on an item and it opens up SmartNews, 
>> see if there is a “smart“ view to the left of the share button near the top 
>> of the screen. This is very helpful and makes things a whole lot more 
>> readable. And if there isn’t a smart view, it probably means there’s also 
>> not a web view, and in those cases, articles are also easily readable in my 
>> experience.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
 
>>>  Hi Paul,
>>> I have smart news installed on my iPhone and iPad. I use it once a while. I 
>>> have notifications turned off. However, I noticed that any time I double 
>>> tap on a news headline, it takes me to the website of the headline origin. 
>>> Some of these websites are accessible and it is easy to read the details 
>>> pertaining to the selected headline, but at other times the websites are 
>>> inaccessible and hard to navigate. The app does not extract the details of 
>>> the headlines and present them to you in an accessible text. I noticed that 
>>> when the original source of the headline is a TV network, the navigation is 
>>> harder.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
 
 
 Hi to those of you who are using the smart news app. We get notifications 
 on our locked screens which is what we want, but both my hused and I have 
 difficulty accessing the news story associated with the notification. Any 
 help would be appreciated.
 God bless!
 Paula and the pups
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Re: for Joshua

[Shirley Baker]

I was talking about my iPhone that they wouldn't help me with a good while back 
unless I updated.I don't know what kind of device you're talking about, as I am 
not familiar with it   but glad you got an answer from them. The iPhone update 
is not bad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Okay, Ms. Shirley
>  After I  received  Your MessagePosting, which  AppearsBelow this 
> MessagePosting of Mine,  I  decided to Call Apple's AppleAccessibility 
> TelephoneSupport @ 877-204-3930, To InQuire about "what" you said, &  I was 
> informed that I wouldn't Be Denied  TelephoneSupport from Apple's 
> AppleAccessibility because I  refused to update  My VZW XS  MAX  from  
> iOS12.4.1 to  WhatEver is the Latest iOS13 iteration.
> 
> (I  Presume)
> it's because  I  didn't  Update Past iOS12, as  if I did  "they" could say  
> that the BugFixes were Resolved in a  Future iOS update of iOS13, but since I 
>  refused to UpdatePast iOS12.4.1, I can't Be Denied TelephoneSupport from 
> AppleAccessibility on My VZW XS MAX
> At 06:30 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> I just hope the device you don't have it on, you won't need help from Apple 
>> Accessibility because they told me they require you to have whatever device 
>> you're requesting help with, to be updated to the latest version or they 
>> won't help you so every since they told me that, I make sure my devices are 
>> all updated.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >
>> > You Ask? How will "I Know"?
>> > If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to ThisThread, I  said, that I  have 
>> > Apple's iOS13 on My VZW 11PRO PrimarilyBecause that is the iOS version 
>> > that it was LaunchedWith, but My VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs 
>> > AssociatedWith iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it to iOS13, so it Remains on  
>> > its Last Update, which  is iOS12.4.1.
>> > MayBe just MayBe
>> > You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah, that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm 
>> > not that TechSavy
>> >
>> > MyApologies, if this MessagePosting offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.
>> > I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them
>> >
>> > Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
>> > At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> >> It's not that bad. How would you know how bad it is since you haven't 
>> >> updated? Some people are just unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy, which is "Why" I  Refuse to 
>> >> > Update My VZW XS MAX, as it's going to Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the 
>> >> > iOS  version it was when I  Purchased it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs 
>> >> > AssociatedWith iOS13 because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & that 
>> >> >  MobileDevice is ON AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice To 
>> >> > Update or Not
>> >> > At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> >> >> You can turn automatic update off but I don't see what the big deal is 
>> >> >> with not updating.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new 
>> >> >> > update like I
>> >> >> > thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> >> >> > apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> >> >> > have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> >> >> > that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe 
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> >> >> > rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> >> >> > battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> >> >> > page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> >> >> > Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> >> >> > my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> >> >> > It really isn't that bad.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> >> >> >> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be 
>> >> >> >> forcing me to
>> >> >> >> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with 
>> >> >> >> the terms
>> >> >> >> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know 
>> >> >> >> is how
>> >> >> >> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old 
>> >> >> >> SE.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Many thanks
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Judy
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>  On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> >> >> >>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to 
>> >> >> >>> call
>> 

Re: anyone out there using smart news

[Cris Ali]

Thanks a million marry. I never noticed this feature before I read your reply. 
You are right, i have not seen your email when I replied to Paul’s question.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 29, 2020, at 11:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Hi Chris,
As I think I said in a previous message, which you probably haven’t seen when 
you made your reply, if you click on an item and it opens up SmartNews, see if 
there is a “smart“ view to the left of the share button near the top of the 
screen. This is very helpful and makes things a whole lot more readable. And if 
there isn’t a smart view, it probably means there’s also not a web view, and in 
those cases, articles are also easily readable in my experience.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 Hi Paul,
I have smart news installed on my iPhone and iPad. I use it once a while. I 
have notifications turned off. However, I noticed that any time I double tap on 
a news headline, it takes me to the website of the headline origin. Some of 
these websites are accessible and it is easy to read the details pertaining to 
the selected headline, but at other times the websites are inaccessible and 
hard to navigate. The app does not extract the details of the headlines and 
present them to you in an accessible text. I noticed that when the original 
source of the headline is a TV network, the navigation is harder.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:


Hi to those of you who are using the smart news app. We get notifications on 
our locked screens which is what we want, but both my hused and I have 
difficulty accessing the news story associated with the notification. Any help 
would be appreciated.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Re: for Joshua

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I wouldn't have updated either except my iPhone kind of updated anyway
even though I had automatic updates turned off.

On 8/29/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Sorry but which update are you speaking of?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane
> Giannetti
> Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2020 4:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: for Joshua
>
> I shouldn’t think it would slow it down. As a matter of fact, as long as
> your little SE will update, it should make it better.
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you so much Joshua and Diane, perhaps i will take the plunge and
>> update.  Will it slow my little old SE down for a bit for a while.
>>
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 29 Aug 2020, at 13:56, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>>>
>>> It really is a good idea to keep your phones updated. One of the main
>>> reasons is Security. Another one is each time the update happens, there
>>> may be some bugs, but, it’s not that bad at the phone cannot be operated
>>> at all.
>>>
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>>
> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
> wrote:

 Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
 thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
 apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
 have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
 that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe
 on the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you
 get rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see
 the battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery
 on page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just
 ask Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery
 level of my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good
 luck.
 It really isn't that bad.

> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be
> forcing me to update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I
> disagreed with the terms did it go away. Today they are trying
> again.  What I wanted to know is how are you getting along with the
> latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Judy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>> wrote:
>>
>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to
>> call anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't
>> return a book not even from the audible website.  It has never
>> worked for me except to phone.  The option to phone audible is
>> even in the app when I'm told I can't return a book.  But the
>> initial exchange this title is deffinately in my audible app.
>>
>>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option.
>>> I have all of the other options, including send this book and add
>>> to favorites, but exchange is definitely not there. Multiple
>>> books on more than one phone show zip. Maybe it’s because I get
>>> all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir
 
 wrote:

 
 I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and
 "exchange this title" are only available in the US currently.
 I'm Canadian and need to either call Audible or go to the full
 desktop version of the Auydible site and into "purchase history"
 in order to return titles. A dialogue opens up over the page
 once you double tap on "return" and then you need to navigate
 that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of being
 able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend
 that option to Canada.

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of
> the book and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons
> are:
>
> Book Details,
>
>
> Rate and Review,
>
>
> Mark as Finished,
>
>
> Exchange this title,
>
>
> Send This Boo,
>
>
> Add to favorites,
>
>
> Cancel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>

Re: anyone out there using smart news

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chris,
As I think I said in a previous message, which you probably haven’t seen when 
you made your reply, if you click on an item and it opens up SmartNews, see if 
there is a “smart“ view to the left of the share button near the top of the 
screen. This is very helpful and makes things a whole lot more readable. And if 
there isn’t a smart view, it probably means there’s also not a web view, and in 
those cases, articles are also easily readable in my experience.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Paul,
> I have smart news installed on my iPhone and iPad. I use it once a while. I 
> have notifications turned off. However, I noticed that any time I double tap 
> on a news headline, it takes me to the website of the headline origin. Some 
> of these websites are accessible and it is easy to read the details 
> pertaining to the selected headline, but at other times the websites are 
> inaccessible and hard to navigate. The app does not extract the details of 
> the headlines and present them to you in an accessible text. I noticed that 
> when the original source of the headline is a TV network, the navigation is 
> harder.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi to those of you who are using the smart news app. We get notifications on 
>> our locked screens which is what we want, but both my hused and I have 
>> difficulty accessing the news story associated with the notification. Any 
>> help would be appreciated.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
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Re: anyone out there using smart news

[Cris Ali]

Hi Paul,
I have smart news installed on my iPhone and iPad. I use it once a while. I 
have notifications turned off. However, I noticed that any time I double tap on 
a news headline, it takes me to the website of the headline origin. Some of 
these websites are accessible and it is easy to read the details pertaining to 
the selected headline, but at other times the websites are inaccessible and 
hard to navigate. The app does not extract the details of the headlines and 
present them to you in an accessible text. I noticed that when the original 
source of the headline is a TV network, the navigation is harder.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:


Hi to those of you who are using the smart news app. We get notifications on 
our locked screens which is what we want, but both my hused and I have 
difficulty accessing the news story associated with the notification. Any help 
would be appreciated.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Saving A Video On the SE 20

[Carla]

I can save pictures with my SE Phone but it won't let me save videos that
were sent to me.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
 
Carla
 

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RE: for Joshua

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry but which update are you speaking of?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane 
Giannetti
Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2020 4:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for Joshua

I shouldn’t think it would slow it down. As a matter of fact, as long as your 
little SE will update, it should make it better.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much Joshua and Diane, perhaps i will take the plunge and 
> update.  Will it slow my little old SE down for a bit for a while.
> 
> 
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Aug 2020, at 13:56, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>> 
>> It really is a good idea to keep your phones updated. One of the main 
>> reasons is Security. Another one is each time the update happens, there may 
>> be some bugs, but, it’s not that bad at the phone cannot be operated at all.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
 On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I 
>>> thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like 
>>> apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't 
>>> have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing 
>>> that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe 
>>> on the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you 
>>> get rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see 
>>> the battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery 
>>> on page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just 
>>> ask Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery 
>>> level of my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good 
>>> luck.
>>> It really isn't that bad.
>>> 
 On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
 Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be 
 forcing me to update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I 
 disagreed with the terms did it go away. Today they are trying 
 again.  What I wanted to know is how are you getting along with the latest 
 update.  I am using the old SE.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Judy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I 
> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to 
> call anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't 
> return a book not even from the audible website.  It has never 
> worked for me except to phone.  The option to phone audible is 
> even in the app when I'm told I can't return a book.  But the 
> initial exchange this title is deffinately in my audible app.
> 
>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option. 
>> I have all of the other options, including send this book and add 
>> to favorites, but exchange is definitely not there. Multiple 
>> books on more than one phone show zip. Maybe it’s because I get 
>> all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and 
>>> "exchange this title" are only available in the US currently. 
>>> I'm Canadian and need to either call Audible or go to the full 
>>> desktop version of the Auydible site and into "purchase history" 
>>> in order to return titles. A dialogue opens up over the page 
>>> once you double tap on "return" and then you need to navigate 
>>> that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of being 
>>> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend 
>>> that option to Canada.
>>> 
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of 
 the book and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
 
 Book Details,
 
 
 Rate and Review,
 
 
 Mark as Finished,
 
 
 Exchange this title,
 
 
 Send This Boo,
 
 
 Add to favorites,
 
 
 Cancel.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 HTH,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 
 
 "He that cannot forgive 

RE: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes bt deal with the battery / swollen state first.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2020 12:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

Exactly that’s what I’m afraid of! But too would you guys change the battery on 
a 5S, to use it as an IPod of sorts? If so, could this phone be set up without 
a Sim card inserted?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 29 ago 2020, a la(s) 7:36 a.m., Gordon  escribió:
> 
> I would speak with Apple about this and see if a battery replacement might 
> be possible. You don't want that battery exploding on you for sure. That 
> could be highly dangerous and might even start a fire. You should not ever 
> plug this phone into power until this is resolved.
> 
>> On 8/29/2020 7:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>> Can one set up and use an iPHone 5S without a SimCard inserted in? This 
>> phone is deleted and restored to default, however the screen is so swollen 
>> that it’s sometimes difficult flicking, double-tapping and others. If I had 
>> enough money, I’d buy myself an IPOd touch at least for the purposes of 
>> multimedia consumption, and others (I’d like it to be sort of a Victor 
>> Reader Stream on Stieriods), but ‘m worried that the 5S might exlode on me! 
>> what would you guys suggest? or just leave it as a museum artifact?
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
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RE: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

[Simon A Fogarty]

You can but I'd suggest putting a sim in to get it setup and then removing the 
sim again,

 I normally suggest getting a blank or old no longer working sim so the 
notifications go away.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2020 12:34 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

Can one set up and use an iPHone 5S without a SimCard inserted in? This phone 
is deleted and restored to default, however the screen is so swollen that it’s 
sometimes difficult flicking, double-tapping and others. If I had enough money, 
I’d buy myself an IPOd touch at least for the purposes of multimedia 
consumption, and others (I’d like it to be sort of a Victor Reader Stream on 
Stieriods), but ‘m worried that the 5S might exlode on me! what would you guys 
suggest? or just leave it as a museum artifact?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: for Joshua

[Robin]

Okay, Ms. Shirley
  After I  received  Your MessagePosting, 
which  AppearsBelow this MessagePosting of 
Mine,  I  decided to Call Apple's 
AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport @ 
877-204-3930, To InQuire about "what" you said, 
&  I was informed that I wouldn't Be 
Denied  TelephoneSupport from Apple's 
AppleAccessibility because I  refused to 
update  My VZW XS  MAX  from  iOS12.4.1 
to  WhatEver is the Latest iOS13 iteration.


(I  Presume)
it's because  I  didn't  Update Past iOS12, 
as  if I did  "they" could say  that the BugFixes 
were Resolved in a  Future iOS update of iOS13, 
but since I  refused to UpdatePast iOS12.4.1, I 
can't Be Denied TelephoneSupport from AppleAccessibility on My VZW XS MAX

At 06:30 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
I just hope the device you don't have it on, you 
won't need help from Apple Accessibility because 
they told me they require you to have whatever 
device you're requesting help with, to be 
updated to the latest version or they won't help 
you so every since they told me that, I make sure my devices are all updated.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> You Ask? How will "I Know"?
> If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to 
ThisThread, I  said, that I  have Apple's iOS13 
on My VZW 11PRO PrimarilyBecause that is the 
iOS version that it was LaunchedWith, but My 
VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs 
AssociatedWith iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it 
to iOS13, so it Remains on  its Last Update, which  is iOS12.4.1.

> MayBe just MayBe
> You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah, 
that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm not that TechSavy

>
> MyApologies, if this MessagePosting offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.
> I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them
>
> Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
> At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> It's not that bad. How would you know how 
bad it is since you haven't updated? Some 
people are just unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.

>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy, 
which is "Why" I  Refuse to Update My VZW XS 
MAX, as it's going to Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which 
is the iOS  version it was when I  Purchased 
it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith 
iOS13 because "They" are present on My VZW 
11PRO, & that  MobileDevice is ON 
AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice To Update or Not

>> > At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> >> You can turn automatic update off but I 
don't see what the big deal is with not updating.

>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua 
Hendrickson  wrote:

>> >> >
>> >> > Well, the good news is, I 
don't really mind the new update like I

>> >> > thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> >> > apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> >> > have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> >> > that might happen when you update.  You 
will feel it when you swipe on

>> >> > the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> >> > rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> >> > battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> >> > page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> >> > Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> >> > my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> >> > It really isn't that bad.
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night 
when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
>> >> >> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It 
was only when I disagreed with the terms
>> >> >> did it go away. Today they are trying 
again.  What I wanted to know is how
>> >> >> are you getting along with the latest 
update.  I am using the old SE.

>> >> >>
>> >> >> Many thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Judy
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >>  On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua 
Hendrickson  wrote:

>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> >> >>> enter on the menu of an audible 
book.  However, I always have to call

>> >> >>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>> >> >>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>> >> >>> except to phone.  The option to phone 
audible is even in the app when
>> >> >>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But 
the initial exchange this title

>> >> >>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>> >> >>>
>> >>  On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >>  Well, Michael, I am in the states, 
and I don̢ۉ„„¢t have that option. I have

e
>> >>  all
>> >>  of the other options, including send 
this book and add to favorites, but
>> >>  exchange is definitely not there. 
Multiple books on more than one phone

>> >> 

Re: for Joshua

[Shirley Baker]

I hope you don't. I was surprised when I did so should I ever need help with 
anything from them, I make sure it is updated. I've only encountered that one 
time though but don't want to give them a chance to refuse help. I updated 
right on the spot when they told me that. Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the HeadsUp, I haven't Encountered that as of Yet with  Apple's 
> AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport.
> At 06:30 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> I just hope the device you don't have it on, you won't need help from Apple 
>> Accessibility because they told me they require you to have whatever device 
>> you're requesting help with, to be updated to the latest version or they 
>> won't help you so every since they told me that, I make sure my devices are 
>> all updated.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >
>> > You Ask? How will "I Know"?
>> > If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to ThisThread, I  said, that I  have 
>> > Apple's iOS13 on My VZW 11PRO PrimarilyBecause that is the iOS version 
>> > that it was LaunchedWith, but My VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs 
>> > AssociatedWith iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it to iOS13, so it Remains on  
>> > its Last Update, which  is iOS12.4.1.
>> > MayBe just MayBe
>> > You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah, that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm 
>> > not that TechSavy
>> >
>> > MyApologies, if this MessagePosting offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.
>> > I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them
>> >
>> > Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
>> > At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> >> It's not that bad. How would you know how bad it is since you haven't 
>> >> updated? Some people are just unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy, which is "Why" I  Refuse to 
>> >> > Update My VZW XS MAX, as it's going to Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the 
>> >> > iOS  version it was when I  Purchased it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs 
>> >> > AssociatedWith iOS13 because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & that 
>> >> >  MobileDevice is ON AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice To 
>> >> > Update or Not
>> >> > At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> >> >> You can turn automatic update off but I don't see what the big deal is 
>> >> >> with not updating.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new 
>> >> >> > update like I
>> >> >> > thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> >> >> > apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> >> >> > have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> >> >> > that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe 
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> >> >> > rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> >> >> > battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> >> >> > page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> >> >> > Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> >> >> > my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> >> >> > It really isn't that bad.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> >> >> >> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be 
>> >> >> >> forcing me to
>> >> >> >> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with 
>> >> >> >> the terms
>> >> >> >> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know 
>> >> >> >> is how
>> >> >> >> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old 
>> >> >> >> SE.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Many thanks
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Judy
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>  On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> >> >> >>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to 
>> >> >> >>> call
>> >> >> >>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>> >> >> >>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>> >> >> >>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app 
>> >> >> >>> when
>> >> >> >>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this 
>> >> >> >>> title
>> >> >> >>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>  On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >> >>  Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don̢ۉ„„¢t have 
>> >> >>  that option. I have
>> e
>> >> >>  all
>> 

Re: for Joshua

[Robin]

Thanks for the HeadsUp, I haven't Encountered 
that as of Yet with  Apple's AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport.

At 06:30 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
I just hope the device you don't have it on, you 
won't need help from Apple Accessibility because 
they told me they require you to have whatever 
device you're requesting help with, to be 
updated to the latest version or they won't help 
you so every since they told me that, I make sure my devices are all updated.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> You Ask? How will "I Know"?
> If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to 
ThisThread, I  said, that I  have Apple's iOS13 
on My VZW 11PRO PrimarilyBecause that is the 
iOS version that it was LaunchedWith, but My 
VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs 
AssociatedWith iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it 
to iOS13, so it Remains on  its Last Update, which  is iOS12.4.1.

> MayBe just MayBe
> You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah, 
that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm not that TechSavy

>
> MyApologies, if this MessagePosting offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.
> I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them
>
> Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
> At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> It's not that bad. How would you know how 
bad it is since you haven't updated? Some 
people are just unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.

>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy, 
which is "Why" I  Refuse to Update My VZW XS 
MAX, as it's going to Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which 
is the iOS  version it was when I  Purchased 
it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith 
iOS13 because "They" are present on My VZW 
11PRO, & that  MobileDevice is ON 
AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice To Update or Not

>> > At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> >> You can turn automatic update off but I 
don't see what the big deal is with not updating.

>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua 
Hendrickson  wrote:

>> >> >
>> >> > Well, the good news is, I 
don't really mind the new update like I

>> >> > thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> >> > apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> >> > have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> >> > that might happen when you update.  You 
will feel it when you swipe on

>> >> > the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> >> > rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> >> > battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> >> > page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> >> > Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> >> > my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> >> > It really isn't that bad.
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night 
when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
>> >> >> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It 
was only when I disagreed with the terms
>> >> >> did it go away. Today they are trying 
again.  What I wanted to know is how
>> >> >> are you getting along with the latest 
update.  I am using the old SE.

>> >> >>
>> >> >> Many thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Judy
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >>  On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua 
Hendrickson  wrote:

>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> >> >>> enter on the menu of an audible 
book.  However, I always have to call

>> >> >>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>> >> >>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>> >> >>> except to phone.  The option to phone 
audible is even in the app when
>> >> >>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But 
the initial exchange this title

>> >> >>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>> >> >>>
>> >>  On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >>  Well, Michael, I am in the states, 
and I don̢ۉ„„¢t have that option. I have

e
>> >>  all
>> >>  of the other options, including send 
this book and add to favorites, but
>> >>  exchange is definitely not there. 
Multiple books on more than one phone

>> >>  show
>> >>  zip. Maybe it’s because I get 
all ml my creditsits at once? Seems very odd.

>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>  Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>> >> > On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, 
Michael Feir 

>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > 
>> >> > I think a couple of those options, 
"sendd this book" and "exchange this
>> >> > title" are only available in the US 
currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>> >> > either call Audible or go to the 
full desktop version of the Auydible

>> >> > site
>> >> > and into "purchase history" in 
order to 

Re: for Joshua

[Shirley Baker]

I just hope the device you don't have it on, you won't need help from Apple 
Accessibility because they told me they require you to have whatever device 
you're requesting help with, to be updated to the latest version or they won't 
help you so every since they told me that, I make sure my devices are all 
updated.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> You Ask? How will "I Know"?
> If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to ThisThread, I  said, that I  have Apple's 
> iOS13 on My VZW 11PRO PrimarilyBecause that is the iOS version that it was 
> LaunchedWith, but My VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs AssociatedWith 
> iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it to iOS13, so it Remains on  its Last Update, 
> which  is iOS12.4.1.
> MayBe just MayBe
> You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah, that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm not 
> that TechSavy
> 
> MyApologies, if this MessagePosting offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.
> I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them
> 
> Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
> At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> It's not that bad. How would you know how bad it is since you haven't 
>> updated? Some people are just unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy, which is "Why" I  Refuse to Update 
>> > My VZW XS MAX, as it's going to Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the iOS  
>> > version it was when I  Purchased it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs 
>> > AssociatedWith iOS13 because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & that  
>> > MobileDevice is ON AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice To 
>> > Update or Not
>> > At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> >> You can turn automatic update off but I don't see what the big deal is 
>> >> with not updating.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
>> >> > thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> >> > apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> >> > have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> >> > that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
>> >> > the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> >> > rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> >> > battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> >> > page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> >> > Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> >> > my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> >> > It really isn't that bad.
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing 
>> >> >> me to
>> >> >> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the 
>> >> >> terms
>> >> >> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is 
>> >> >> how
>> >> >> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Many thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Judy
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >>  On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> >> >>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
>> >> >>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>> >> >>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>> >> >>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
>> >> >>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
>> >> >>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>> >> >>>
>> >>  On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> >>  Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I donâ€â„„¢t have that 
>> >>  option. I have
>> >>  all
>> >>  of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, 
>> >>  but
>> >>  exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one 
>> >>  phone
>> >>  show
>> >>  zip. Maybe it̢۪s because I get all my creditsits at once? Seems 
>> >>  very odd.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>  Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>> >> > On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > 
>> >> > I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange 
>> >> > this
>> >> > title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and 
>> >> > need to
>> >> > either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the 
>> >> > Auydible
>> >> > site
>> >> > and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue 
>> >> 

Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

[l . d . ethier23]

Try to increase volume from rotor. Maybe you'll need help to do it.
If you have volume activate in rotor and aptic vibration, you'll be able alone: 
try to flic up one finger each time you turn rotor.
Good luck!

Lyne

> Le 29 août 2020 à 19:53, Marty Hutchings  a écrit 
> :
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RE: Still no luck with Audible

[Alan Lemly]

The website might work just fine for exchanging an Audible title but you don’t' 
have to go there. I just executed the menu button next to one of the titles in 
my Audible library using the iPhone app and when I double tapped on the 
Exchange this title option, I was presented with a screen containing a picture 
of that title saying I'd pick a new title in a moment and that I'd get one 
credit back after removing the title from my library. A button at the bottom of 
that screen said Let's do it. I stopped at that point but the Exchange this 
title option appears to be working just fine provided your Audible app has it 
in your menu choices. I'm in the States and I know the exchange option isn't 
available in some other countries or on Mary Otten's iDevice.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

From: 'cwc' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:08 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible

 

  

 

To exchange a book, you must go the web page. Then go int your account. Move to 
the link that lists all your book purchases. Move down to the one that you want 
to exchange. Move to the link that indicates why you cannot exchange the book. 
It will give you a choice of contacts. Choose the E-mail option and tell them 
which book that you want to exchange. They will respond to you. 

On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 9:04:36 PM UTC-4 Alan Lemly wrote:

Mary, 

I apologize if you already said you'd done this but have you checked your 
profile which is the last option on the right of the Audible app bottomline 
toolbar? When I check that, it states the various features of my Audible 
account including a separate button for exchanges. I'm curious whether 
exchanges are listed under your profile. 

Alan Lemly 

-Original Message- 
From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
mott...@gmail.com 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 7:17 PM 
To: VIPhone via 
Subject: Still no luck with Audible 

Well, I did sign out of my Audible account on one of my phones and then sign 
back in. I still don�t have that exchange or return option in my menu, so if I 
want to return something, i�ll just have to do it the old-fashioned way on the 
PC. Strange. 


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Re: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

[Marty Hutchings]

Get rid of that iPhone 5.  It is dangerous.  iPods are cheep on EBay.



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-Original Message- 
From: Gordon

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

I would speak with Apple about this and see if a battery replacement
might be possible. You don't want that battery exploding on you for
sure. That could be highly dangerous and might even start a fire. You
should not ever plug this phone into power until this is resolved.

On 8/29/2020 7:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Can one set up and use an iPHone 5S without a SimCard inserted in? This 
phone is deleted and restored to default, however the screen is so swollen 
that it’s sometimes difficult flicking, double-tapping and others. If I 
had enough money, I’d buy myself an IPOd touch at least for the purposes 
of multimedia consumption, and others (I’d like it to be sort of a Victor 
Reader Stream on Stieriods), but ‘m worried that the 5S might exlode on 
me! what would you guys suggest? or just leave it as a museum artifact?


Gera
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Re: Still no luck with Audible

['cwc' via VIPhone]

  

 

To exchange a book, you must go the web page. Then go int your account. 
Move to the link that lists all your book purchases. Move down to the one 
that you want to exchange. Move to the link that indicates why you cannot 
exchange the book. It will give you a choice of contacts. Choose the E-mail 
option and tell them which book that you want to exchange. They will 
respond to you. 
On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 9:04:36 PM UTC-4 Alan Lemly wrote:

> Mary,
>
> I apologize if you already said you'd done this but have you checked your 
> profile which is the last option on the right of the Audible app bottomline 
> toolbar? When I check that, it states the various features of my Audible 
> account including a separate button for exchanges. I'm curious whether 
> exchanges are listed under your profile.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of mott...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 7:17 PM
> To: VIPhone via
> Subject: Still no luck with Audible
>
> Well, I did sign out of my Audible account on one of my phones and then 
> sign back in. I still don�t have that exchange or return option in my menu, 
> so if I want to return something, i�ll just have to do it the old-fashioned 
> way on the PC. Strange.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

[Marty Hutchings]

Mute doesn't stop Voiceover, but the volume could be down.  Do you use a 
Bluetooth device?  sometimes when my voice isn't speaking, it is because a 
Bluetooth device has hijacked my audio from my phone without me knowing it. 
Turn off Bluetooth.




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-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

Or the phone may be muted.


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 8/29/2020 5:40 PM, Gordon wrote:
If the three finger tap doesn't bring speech back, you might have turned 
the speech volume down to 0. To check this you'll need to turn the rotor 
and flick up once. Keep turning it and flick up once each time you do and 
that should bring speech back. If you did the three finger tap first, 
you'll need to do that again before attempting to turn the rotor and 
flicking up once.


On 8/29/2020 4:21 PM, Carolyn wrote:

Three-finger double-tap toggles speech on and off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Shirley Baker

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

If you try to tap your phone twice with three fingers, does that turn 
your speech on?


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Rebecca Degeorge 
 wrote:


I am running the most recent IOS version; phone is a new S.E. Battery 
charged;  mute button not on, and the volume is sufficiently loud to 
hear Siri quite well.  But no speech. Can someone help?



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Re: Still no luck with Audible

[Mary Otten]

Well, unless they’ve made a change, the ability to actually return a book is 
dependent on when you bought it. If you bought it more than a year ago, you 
cannot return it. That is of course, unless audible has changed something. So 
maybe you see the exchange thing in there, but if you double tap on it, do you 
actually get to exchange the book for something else? As far as what’s in that 
menu, I have everything everybody else has with the exception of the exchange 
button. It has things like cancel, send, favorites, book details, and there 
might be one more, but it’s not relevant.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> What are the options you see when you double tap the menu button?
> 
> Sorry if this question has already been asked, but I’m coming in late to this 
> discussion.
> 
> And to comment on what someone else suggested, I don’t believe it has 
> anything to do with the length of time you have had the title. Just to test, 
> I tried with a title I’ve had for several years and got the exchange this 
> title with no problem.
> 
> Kim
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
> justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> Thanks, Alan. If I ever do get a resolution, I will let you know.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry you got such a poor response from Audible Support. I too much 
>>> prefer to handle this sort of thing in writing but I'm concerned that the 
>>> availability of written, meaningful tech support is becoming a  dying art 
>>> form.
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 2:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
>>> 
>>> Hi Alan and all,
>>> Yes, the books I was checking into were those I had recently acquired. I 
>>> did send an email to audible, and I got a not very helpful response, 
>>> informing me that I should call them if I�m having trouble exchanging books 
>>> in the app. They totally did not answer my question which I very clearly 
>>> asked about why it was I wasn�t able to have this exchange option within 
>>> the app but I am able to do it on the website. Another tech support 
>>> personwho doesn�t know how to read apparently.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 ?Mary,
 
 Best of luck resolving the issue and I hope Audible Support gives a quick 
 and helpful answer. Please let us know what corrects the problem.
 
 Alan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 10:30 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
 
 Well, I have sent an email to audible support and we?ll see what they say. 
 I believe I have the most recent version. There isn?t a newer one showing 
 up in my updates in the App Store on either device. And yes, I have a lot 
 of books downloaded.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> ?Mary,
> 
> I'm not usually a fan of what I'm going to suggest because it sounds like 
> one of those standard boilerplate recommendations but you might delete 
> and reinstall the Audible app. I'm only suggesting this if you're sure 
> you have the most recent version installed and you haven't downloaded a 
> lot of titles to your device. It just isn't right that the Exchange this 
> title option doesn't appear when you open the menu of one of your Audible 
> library books.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
> 
> Hi Alan,
> Yes, according to my profile, exchanges are part of my account.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Mary,
>> 
>> I apologize if you already said you'd done this but have you checked 
>> your profile which is the last option on the right of the Audible app 
>> bottomline toolbar? When I check that, it states the various features of 
>> my Audible account including a separate button for exchanges. I'm 
>> curious whether exchanges are listed under your profile.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Re: Still no luck with Audible

[Kimberly]

Mary,

What are the options you see when you double tap the menu button?

Sorry if this question has already been asked, but I’m coming in late to this 
discussion.

And to comment on what someone else suggested, I don’t believe it has anything 
to do with the length of time you have had the title. Just to test, I tried 
with a title I’ve had for several years and got the exchange this title with no 
problem.

Kim

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Alan. If I ever do get a resolution, I will let you know.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I'm sorry you got such a poor response from Audible Support. I too much 
>> prefer to handle this sort of thing in writing but I'm concerned that the 
>> availability of written, meaningful tech support is becoming a  dying art 
>> form.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
>> 
>> Hi Alan and all,
>> Yes, the books I was checking into were those I had recently acquired. I did 
>> send an email to audible, and I got a not very helpful response, informing 
>> me that I should call them if I�m having trouble exchanging books in the 
>> app. They totally did not answer my question which I very clearly asked 
>> about why it was I wasn�t able to have this exchange option within the app 
>> but I am able to do it on the website. Another tech support personwho 
>> doesn�t know how to read apparently.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Mary,
>>> 
>>> Best of luck resolving the issue and I hope Audible Support gives a quick 
>>> and helpful answer. Please let us know what corrects the problem.
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 10:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
>>> 
>>> Well, I have sent an email to audible support and we?ll see what they say. 
>>> I believe I have the most recent version. There isn?t a newer one showing 
>>> up in my updates in the App Store on either device. And yes, I have a lot 
>>> of books downloaded.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 ?Mary,
 
 I'm not usually a fan of what I'm going to suggest because it sounds like 
 one of those standard boilerplate recommendations but you might delete and 
 reinstall the Audible app. I'm only suggesting this if you're sure you 
 have the most recent version installed and you haven't downloaded a lot of 
 titles to your device. It just isn't right that the Exchange this title 
 option doesn't appear when you open the menu of one of your Audible 
 library books.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
 
 Hi Alan,
 Yes, according to my profile, exchanges are part of my account.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> ?Mary,
> 
> I apologize if you already said you'd done this but have you checked your 
> profile which is the last option on the right of the Audible app 
> bottomline toolbar? When I check that, it states the various features of 
> my Audible account including a separate button for exchanges. I'm curious 
> whether exchanges are listed under your profile.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of motte...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 7:17 PM
> To: VIPhone via
> Subject: Still no luck with Audible
> 
> Well, I did sign out of my Audible account on one of my phones and then 
> sign back in. I still don?t have that exchange or return option in my 
> menu, so if I want to return something, i?ll just have to do it the 
> old-fashioned way on the PC. Strange.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: No Speech Though VO Is On

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When VO does this on my phone, I just power it off and then back on again.

Tammy

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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

Here's MySuggestion:
Try This:
  HoldDown the HomeButton or Press the HomeButton, & Say, Turn  VoiceOver 
OFF, & then  Press  the HomeButton again, & Say, Turn VoiceOver ON.

You could also  Do It this way too:
Say, HeySiri, Turn VoiceOver OFF & then  HeySiri,  Turn VoiceOver ON.

Then
Place  a  Finger on Your  iPhone'sTouchScreen, to Determine if VoiceOver is 
WorkinAgain.

At 02:04 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>If you try to tap your phone twice with three fingers, does that turn 
>your speech on?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 28, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Rebecca
> Degeorge  wrote:
> >
> > I am running the most recent IOS version;
> phone is a new S.E. Battery charged;  mute button not on, and the 
> volume is sufficiently loud to hear Siri quite well.  But no speech. 
> Can someone help?
> >
> >
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Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

[Robin]

Here's MySuggestion:
Try This:
 HoldDown the HomeButton or Press the 
HomeButton, & Say, Turn  VoiceOver OFF, & 
then  Press  the HomeButton again, & Say, Turn VoiceOver ON.


You could also  Do It this way too:
Say, HeySiri, Turn VoiceOver OFF & then  HeySiri,  Turn VoiceOver ON.

Then
Place  a  Finger on Your  iPhone'sTouchScreen, to 
Determine if VoiceOver is WorkinAgain.


At 02:04 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
If you try to tap your phone twice with three 
fingers, does that turn your speech on?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Rebecca 
Degeorge  wrote:

>
> I am running the most recent IOS version; 
phone is a new S.E. Battery charged;  mute 
button not on, and the volume is sufficiently 
loud to hear Siri quite well.  But no speech. Can someone help?

>
>
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Re: for Joshua

[Robin]

You Ask? How will "I Know"?
If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to ThisThread, 
I  said, that I  have Apple's iOS13 on My VZW 
11PRO PrimarilyBecause that is the iOS version 
that it was LaunchedWith, but My VZW XS MAX 
wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs AssociatedWith 
iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it to iOS13, so it 
Remains on  its Last Update, which  is iOS12.4.1.

MayBe just MayBe
You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah, 
that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm not that TechSavy


MyApologies, if this MessagePosting offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.
I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them

Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
It's not that bad. How would you know how bad it 
is since you haven't updated? Some people are 
just unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
>
> Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy, which 
is "Why" I  Refuse to Update My VZW XS MAX, as 
it's going to Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the 
iOS  version it was when I  Purchased it, 
&  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith iOS13 
because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & 
that  MobileDevice is ON AutomaticUpdates (so 
far). It's TheUser'sChoice To Update or Not

> At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> You can turn automatic update off but I 
don't see what the big deal is with not updating.

>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua 
Hendrickson  wrote:

>> >
>> > Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
>> > thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> > apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> > have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> > that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
>> > the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> > rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> > battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> > page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> > Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> > my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> > It really isn't that bad.
>> >
>> >> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> >> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night 
when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
>> >> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was 
only when I disagreed with the terms
>> >> did it go away. Today they are trying 
again.  What I wanted to know is how

>> >> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks
>> >>
>> >> Judy
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>>  On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua 
Hendrickson  wrote:

>> >>>
>> >>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> >>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
>> >>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>> >>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>> >>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
>> >>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
>> >>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>> >>>
>>  On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>  Well, Michael, I am in the states, and 
I donâ€â„„¢t have that option. I have

>>  all
>>  of the other options, including send 
this book and add to favorites, but
>>  exchange is definitely not there. 
Multiple books on more than one phone

>>  show
>>  zip. Maybe it̢۪s because I get all my 
creditsits at once? Seems very odd.

>> 
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > I think a couple of those options, 
"sendd this book" and "exchange this
>> > title" are only available in the US 
currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>> > either call Audible or go to the full 
desktop version of the Auydible

>> > site
>> > and into "purchase history" in order 
to return titles. A dialogue opens

>> > up
>> > over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
>> > navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
>> > being
>> > able to return books from right in the 
app so I hope they extend that

>> > option to Canada.
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I just checked, and if you flick 
right once from the title of the book

>> >> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>> >>
>> >> Book Details,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rate and Review,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mark as Finished,
>> >>
>> 

Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

[Maria Campbell]

Or the phone may be muted.


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 8/29/2020 5:40 PM, Gordon wrote:
If the three finger tap doesn't bring speech back, you might have 
turned the speech volume down to 0. To check this you'll need to turn 
the rotor and flick up once. Keep turning it and flick up once each 
time you do and that should bring speech back. If you did the three 
finger tap first, you'll need to do that again before attempting to 
turn the rotor and flicking up once.


On 8/29/2020 4:21 PM, Carolyn wrote:

Three-finger double-tap toggles speech on and off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Shirley Baker

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

If you try to tap your phone twice with three fingers, does that turn 
your speech on?


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Rebecca Degeorge 
 wrote:


I am running the most recent IOS version; phone is a new S.E. 
Battery charged;  mute button not on, and the volume is sufficiently 
loud to hear Siri quite well.  But no speech. Can someone help?



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Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

[Gordon]

If the three finger tap doesn't bring speech back, you might have turned 
the speech volume down to 0. To check this you'll need to turn the rotor 
and flick up once. Keep turning it and flick up once each time you do 
and that should bring speech back. If you did the three finger tap 
first, you'll need to do that again before attempting to turn the rotor 
and flicking up once.


On 8/29/2020 4:21 PM, Carolyn wrote:

Three-finger double-tap toggles speech on and off.

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Shirley Baker
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

If you try to tap your phone twice with three fingers, does that turn your 
speech on?

Sent from my iPhone


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I am running the most recent IOS version; phone is a new S.E. Battery charged; 
 mute button not on, and the volume is sufficiently loud to hear Siri quite 
well.  But no speech. Can someone help?


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RE: No Speech Though VO Is On

[Carolyn]

Three-finger double-tap toggles speech on and off. 

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Subject: Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

If you try to tap your phone twice with three fingers, does that turn your 
speech on?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Rebecca Degeorge  
> wrote:
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> I am running the most recent IOS version; phone is a new S.E. Battery 
> charged;  mute button not on, and the volume is sufficiently loud to hear 
> Siri quite well.  But no speech. Can someone help?
> 
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: anyone out there using smart news

[Mary Otten]

Hi Paul,
I do use that app, and the problem with it is that when you get to the screen 
where the story is, often, you will want to find the “smart“ button rather than 
using the default web view. The web view is horrible. But if you double tap on 
the smart button, which is just to the left of the “share“ button, you have 
much better results. Sometimes, there is no smart view. But in such cases, the 
stories generally read fine. You just need to trash that stupid web view. They 
need to have a setting where smart is the default if it’s available.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi to those of you who are using the smart news app. We get notifications on 
> our locked screens which is what we want, but both my hused and I have 
> difficulty accessing the news story associated with the notification. Any 
> help would be appreciated.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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Re: No Speech Though VO Is On

[Shirley Baker]

If you try to tap your phone twice with three fingers, does that turn your 
speech on?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Rebecca Degeorge  
> wrote:
> 
> I am running the most recent IOS version; phone is a new S.E. Battery 
> charged;  mute button not on, and the volume is sufficiently loud to hear 
> Siri quite well.  But no speech. Can someone help?
> 
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: for Joshua

[Shirley Baker]

It's not that bad. How would you know how bad it is since you haven't updated? 
Some people are just unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy, which is "Why" I  Refuse to Update My 
> VZW XS MAX, as it's going to Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the iOS  version it 
> was when I  Purchased it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith iOS13 
> because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & that  MobileDevice is ON 
> AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice To Update or Not
> At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>> You can turn automatic update off but I don't see what the big deal is with 
>> not updating.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
>> > thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> > apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> > have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> > that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
>> > the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> > rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> > battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> > page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> > Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> > my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> > It really isn't that bad.
>> >
>> >> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> >> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me 
>> >> to
>> >> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the 
>> >> terms
>> >> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
>> >> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks
>> >>
>> >> Judy
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>>  On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> >>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
>> >>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>> >>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>> >>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
>> >>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
>> >>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>> >>>
>>  On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>  Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option. I 
>>  have
>>  all
>>  of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
>>  exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
>>  show
>>  zip. Maybe it’s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
>> 
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
>> > title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>> > either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
>> > site
>> > and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
>> > up
>> > over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
>> > navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
>> > being
>> > able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
>> > option to Canada.
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
>> >> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>> >>
>> >> Book Details,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rate and Review,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mark as Finished,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Exchange this title,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Send This Boo,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Add to favorites,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cancel.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> HTH,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Richard
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> >> pass
>> >> himself,† and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> >> 

anyone out there using smart news

[Paul JOrdan]

Hi to those of you who are using the smart news app. We get notifications on
our locked screens which is what we want, but both my hused and I have
difficulty accessing the news story associated with the notification. Any
help would be appreciated.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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Re: Still no luck with Audible

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Alan. If I ever do get a resolution, I will let you know.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I'm sorry you got such a poor response from Audible Support. I too much 
> prefer to handle this sort of thing in writing but I'm concerned that the 
> availability of written, meaningful tech support is becoming a  dying art 
> form.
> 
> Alan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 2:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
> 
> Hi Alan and all,
> Yes, the books I was checking into were those I had recently acquired. I did 
> send an email to audible, and I got a not very helpful response, informing me 
> that I should call them if I�m having trouble exchanging books in the app. 
> They totally did not answer my question which I very clearly asked about why 
> it was I wasn�t able to have this exchange option within the app but I am 
> able to do it on the website. Another tech support personwho doesn�t know how 
> to read apparently.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Mary,
>> 
>> Best of luck resolving the issue and I hope Audible Support gives a quick 
>> and helpful answer. Please let us know what corrects the problem.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 10:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
>> 
>> Well, I have sent an email to audible support and we?ll see what they say. I 
>> believe I have the most recent version. There isn?t a newer one showing up 
>> in my updates in the App Store on either device. And yes, I have a lot of 
>> books downloaded.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Mary,
>>> 
>>> I'm not usually a fan of what I'm going to suggest because it sounds like 
>>> one of those standard boilerplate recommendations but you might delete and 
>>> reinstall the Audible app. I'm only suggesting this if you're sure you have 
>>> the most recent version installed and you haven't downloaded a lot of 
>>> titles to your device. It just isn't right that the Exchange this title 
>>> option doesn't appear when you open the menu of one of your Audible library 
>>> books.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
>>> 
>>> Hi Alan,
>>> Yes, according to my profile, exchanges are part of my account.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 ?Mary,
 
 I apologize if you already said you'd done this but have you checked your 
 profile which is the last option on the right of the Audible app 
 bottomline toolbar? When I check that, it states the various features of 
 my Audible account including a separate button for exchanges. I'm curious 
 whether exchanges are listed under your profile.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of motte...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 7:17 PM
 To: VIPhone via
 Subject: Still no luck with Audible
 
 Well, I did sign out of my Audible account on one of my phones and then 
 sign back in. I still don?t have that exchange or return option in my 
 menu, so if I want to return something, i?ll just have to do it the 
 old-fashioned way on the PC. Strange.
 
 
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Re: for Joshua

[Robin]

Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy, which is 
"Why" I  Refuse to Update My VZW XS MAX, as it's 
going to Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the 
iOS  version it was when I  Purchased it, 
&  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith iOS13 
because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & 
that  MobileDevice is ON AutomaticUpdates (so 
far). It's TheUser'sChoice To Update or Not

At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
You can turn automatic update off but I don't 
see what the big deal is with not updating.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
> thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
> apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
> have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
> that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
> the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
> rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
> battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
> page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
> Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
> my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
> It really isn't that bad.
>
>> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when 
Apple seemed to be forcing me to
>> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only 
when I disagreed with the terms

>> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
>> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
>>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
>>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
>>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>>>
 On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
 Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I 
don’t have that option. I have

 all
 of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
 exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
 show
 zip. Maybe it’s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
> wrote:
>
> 
> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
> title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
> either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
> site
> and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
> up
> over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
> navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
> being
> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
> option to Canada.
>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
>> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>>
>> Book Details,
>>
>>
>> Rate and Review,
>>
>>
>> Mark as Finished,
>>
>>
>> Exchange this title,
>>
>>
>> Send This Boo,
>>
>>
>> Add to favorites,
>>
>>
>> Cancel.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass
>> himself,† and we forget that only 
grace can break the cycle of ancient

>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting
>>
>> grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>> Herbert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mary,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When I'm in my Library tab on the iOS Audible app and double tap the
>>> Menu button to the right of one of my listed books, I get a list of
>>> vertically stacked options one of which is 

RE: Still no luck with Audible

[Alan Lemly]

Mary,

I'm sorry you got such a poor response from Audible Support. I too much prefer 
to handle this sort of thing in writing but I'm concerned that the availability 
of written, meaningful tech support is becoming a  dying art form.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible

Hi Alan and all,
Yes, the books I was checking into were those I had recently acquired. I did 
send an email to audible, and I got a not very helpful response, informing me 
that I should call them if I�m having trouble exchanging books in the app. They 
totally did not answer my question which I very clearly asked about why it was 
I wasn�t able to have this exchange option within the app but I am able to do 
it on the website. Another tech support personwho doesn�t know how to read 
apparently.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> ?Mary,
> 
> Best of luck resolving the issue and I hope Audible Support gives a quick and 
> helpful answer. Please let us know what corrects the problem.
> 
> Alan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 10:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
> 
> Well, I have sent an email to audible support and we?ll see what they say. I 
> believe I have the most recent version. There isn?t a newer one showing up in 
> my updates in the App Store on either device. And yes, I have a lot of books 
> downloaded.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Mary,
>> 
>> I'm not usually a fan of what I'm going to suggest because it sounds like 
>> one of those standard boilerplate recommendations but you might delete and 
>> reinstall the Audible app. I'm only suggesting this if you're sure you have 
>> the most recent version installed and you haven't downloaded a lot of titles 
>> to your device. It just isn't right that the Exchange this title option 
>> doesn't appear when you open the menu of one of your Audible library books.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
>> 
>> Hi Alan,
>> Yes, according to my profile, exchanges are part of my account.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Mary,
>>> 
>>> I apologize if you already said you'd done this but have you checked your 
>>> profile which is the last option on the right of the Audible app bottomline 
>>> toolbar? When I check that, it states the various features of my Audible 
>>> account including a separate button for exchanges. I'm curious whether 
>>> exchanges are listed under your profile.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of motte...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 7:17 PM
>>> To: VIPhone via
>>> Subject: Still no luck with Audible
>>> 
>>> Well, I did sign out of my Audible account on one of my phones and then 
>>> sign back in. I still don?t have that exchange or return option in my menu, 
>>> so if I want to return something, i?ll just have to do it the old-fashioned 
>>> way on the PC. Strange.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: for Joshua

[Shirley Baker]

You can turn automatic update off but I don't see what the big deal is with not 
updating.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
> thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
> apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
> have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
> that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
> the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
> rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
> battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
> page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
> Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
> my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
> It really isn't that bad.
> 
>> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
>> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the terms
>> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
>> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
>>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
>>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
>>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>>> 
 On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
 Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option. I have
 all
 of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
 exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
 show
 zip. Maybe it’s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
> title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
> either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
> site
> and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
> up
> over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
> navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
> being
> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
> option to Canada.
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
>> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>> 
>> Book Details,
>> 
>> 
>> Rate and Review,
>> 
>> 
>> Mark as Finished,
>> 
>> 
>> Exchange this title,
>> 
>> 
>> Send This Boo,
>> 
>> 
>> Add to favorites,
>> 
>> 
>> Cancel.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting
>> 
>> grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>> Herbert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I'm in my Library tab on the iOS Audible app and double tap the
>>> Menu button to the right of one of my listed books, I get a list of
>>> vertically stacked options one of which is Exchange this title.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 

Re: Still no luck with Audible

[Mary Otten]

Hi Alan and all,
Yes, the books I was checking into were those I had recently acquired. I did 
send an email to audible, and I got a not very helpful response, informing me 
that I should call them if I’m having trouble exchanging books in the app. They 
totally did not answer my question which I very clearly asked about why it was 
I wasn’t able to have this exchange option within the app but I am able to do 
it on the website. Another tech support personwho doesn’t know how to read 
apparently.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> Best of luck resolving the issue and I hope Audible Support gives a quick and 
> helpful answer. Please let us know what corrects the problem.
> 
> Alan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 10:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
> 
> Well, I have sent an email to audible support and we�ll see what they say. I 
> believe I have the most recent version. There isn�t a newer one showing up in 
> my updates in the App Store on either device. And yes, I have a lot of books 
> downloaded.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Mary,
>> 
>> I'm not usually a fan of what I'm going to suggest because it sounds like 
>> one of those standard boilerplate recommendations but you might delete and 
>> reinstall the Audible app. I'm only suggesting this if you're sure you have 
>> the most recent version installed and you haven't downloaded a lot of titles 
>> to your device. It just isn't right that the Exchange this title option 
>> doesn't appear when you open the menu of one of your Audible library books.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible
>> 
>> Hi Alan,
>> Yes, according to my profile, exchanges are part of my account.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Mary,
>>> 
>>> I apologize if you already said you'd done this but have you checked your 
>>> profile which is the last option on the right of the Audible app bottomline 
>>> toolbar? When I check that, it states the various features of my Audible 
>>> account including a separate button for exchanges. I'm curious whether 
>>> exchanges are listed under your profile.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of motte...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 7:17 PM
>>> To: VIPhone via
>>> Subject: Still no luck with Audible
>>> 
>>> Well, I did sign out of my Audible account on one of my phones and then 
>>> sign back in. I still don?t have that exchange or return option in my menu, 
>>> so if I want to return something, i?ll just have to do it the old-fashioned 
>>> way on the PC. Strange.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: for Joshua

[Judy Pryor]

Thank you Karen and Diane

Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Aug 2020, at 17:09, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> I am using an older SE, and it's working just fine with the update.
> 
> Karen P
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Judy Pryor
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: for Joshua
> 
> Thank you so much Joshua and Diane, perhaps i will take the plunge and 
> update.  Will it slow my little old SE down for a bit for a while.
> 
> 
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Aug 2020, at 13:56, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>> 
>> It really is a good idea to keep your phones updated. One of the main 
>> reasons is Security. Another one is each time the update happens, there may 
>> be some bugs, but, it�s not that bad at the phone cannot be operated at all.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
>>> thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>>> apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>>> have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>>> that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
>>> the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>>> rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>>> battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>>> page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>>> Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>>> my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>>> It really isn't that bad.
>>> 
 On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
 Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me 
 to
 update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the 
 terms
 did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
 are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Judy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
> is deffinately in my audible app.
> 
>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don�t have that option. I have
>> all
>> of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
>> exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
>> show
>> zip. Maybe it�s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
>>> title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>>> either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
>>> site
>>> and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
>>> up
>>> over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
>>> navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
>>> being
>>> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
>>> option to Canada.
>>> 
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
 and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
 
 Book Details,
 
 
 Rate and Review,
 
 
 Mark as Finished,
 
 
 Exchange this title,
 
 
 Send This Boo,
 
 
 Add to favorites,
 
 
 Cancel.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 HTH,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 
 
 "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must

Re: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

[Candy Lowe]

I have an iPhone 8 with no sim card.  I use it with all of my apps except I can 
not make an outgoing call.  I can only text with people that have idevices, 
but, other than that, everything works perfectly.  i can answer calls, but, 
just not make them.  My husband has an iPad, and he can make and receive calls 
on it while on wifi.  I often wonder why that is not the case with an iphone 
with no sim.

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I did that.
> No battery replacement, but after resetting it without a Sim card I was able 
> to use it like an iPod.
> 
> See what the battery replacement will cost and I'd double check with Apple to 
> confirm you will be able to set it up as a WiFi device if you get a new 
> battery.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?
> 
> Exactly that’s what I’m afraid of! But too would you guys change the battery 
> on a 5S, to use it as an IPod of sorts? If so, could this phone be set up 
> without a Sim card inserted?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 29 ago 2020, a la(s) 7:36 a.m., Gordon  escribió:
>> 
>> I would speak with Apple about this and see if a battery replacement might 
>> be possible. You don't want that battery exploding on you for sure. That 
>> could be highly dangerous and might even start a fire. You should not ever 
>> plug this phone into power until this is resolved.
>> 
 On 8/29/2020 7:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>>> Can one set up and use an iPHone 5S without a SimCard inserted in? This 
>>> phone is deleted and restored to default, however the screen is so swollen 
>>> that it’s sometimes difficult flicking, double-tapping and others. If I had 
>>> enough money, I’d buy myself an IPOd touch at least for the purposes of 
>>> multimedia consumption, and others (I’d like it to be sort of a Victor 
>>> Reader Stream on Stieriods), but ‘m worried that the 5S might exlode on me! 
>>> what would you guys suggest? or just leave it as a museum artifact?
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
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RE: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Gerardo,

Please do not continue to use a phone with a swollen battery.  Doing so is 
extremely dangerous.  I cannot stress this enough.

If you go to Google or Yelp and search for cell phone repair, depending upon 
where you live, you will find several local repair shops that can easily remove 
the battery from your phone and, in many cases, replace the battery.  About a 
month ago, I had a swollen battery removed from one of my older phones for a 
cash fee of $30.  

A swollen phone battery, even if the screen continues to function, can explode 
at any moment; trust me, you do not want this to happen.  

When I discovered that one of my phones had a swollen battery, I placed it in a 
huge box and put it on my back patio, overnight, until I could get it to the 
shop, the next day.

My point is that, no matter how much you depend upon your phone, it is not 
worth any injuries that could be the result of a chemically imbalanced battery 
that could result in an explosion.

Some people think that some things are not a big deal; that is, until they are. 
 

Be smart and do the following:
1.
Power down the phone, immediately.

2.
Place it in a large container so that nothing can press down or fall on the 
phone.

3.
Place the container in an isolated location.

4.
Locate a professional who can safely remove the damaged battery from the phone.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:34 AM
To: iPhone List
Subject: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

Can one set up and use an iPHone 5S without a SimCard inserted in? This phone 
is deleted and restored to default, however the screen is so swollen that it’s 
sometimes difficult flicking, double-tapping and others. If I had enough money, 
I’d buy myself an IPOd touch at least for the purposes of multimedia 
consumption, and others (I’d like it to be sort of a Victor Reader Stream on 
Stieriods), but ‘m worried that the 5S might exlode on me! what would you guys 
suggest? or just leave it as a museum artifact?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: for Joshua

[Alan Lemly]

Joshua,

That weird tapping thing you referenced after your upgrade to iOS 13.x is 
called haptic feedback. I was also a bit surprised by it when I first upgraded 
to iOS 13 but I'd suggest you leave it on and try it out for a while. I expect 
it is helpful to those who also have a hearing impairment. You can change the 
intensity level of the haptic feedback at Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, 
Audio, Sounds and haptics. There is a Haptics heading on this screen and just 
below it is a button to turn it on or off. Just below that is a control to set 
the intensity level. You can single finger swipe up or down this control to 
change the intensity in multiple degrees or you can single finger tap and hold 
the control and slide left or right to change the intensity granularity with 
more precision.

Alan Lemly 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for Joshua

Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I thought I 
would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like apple did the update, 
and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't have the option of saying later.  
There is this weird tapping thing that might happen when you update.  You will 
feel it when you swipe on the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they 
will help you get rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to 
see the battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on page 
one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask Siri current 
battery level and she will tell me the battery level of my iPhone and a 
bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
It really isn't that bad.

On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing 
> me to update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed 
> with the terms did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I 
> wanted to know is how are you getting along with the latest update.  I am 
> using the old SE.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Judy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>
>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I 
>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call 
>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a 
>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me 
>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when 
>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title 
>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>>
>>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don t have that option. I 
>>> have all of the other options, including send this book and add to 
>>> favorites, but exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on 
>>> more than one phone show zip. Maybe it s because I get all my 
>>> credits at once? Seems very odd.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
 wrote:

 ?
 I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange 
 this title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian 
 and need to either call Audible or go to the full desktop version 
 of the Auydible site and into "purchase history" in order to return 
 titles. A dialogue opens up over the page once you double tap on 
 "return" and then you need to navigate that dialogue. Not too hard 
 at all. I like the thought of being able to return books from right 
 in the app so I hope they extend that option to Canada.

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the 
> book and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>
> Book Details,
>
>
> Rate and Review,
>
>
> Mark as Finished,
>
>
> Exchange this title,
>
>
> Send This Boo,
>
>
> Add to favorites,
>
>
> Cancel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he 
> must pass himself,  and we forget that only grace can break the 
> cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while 
> I have regretted not granting
>
> grace to others, I ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
> Edward Herbert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: for Joshua

[Diane Giannetti]

I shouldn’t think it would slow it down. As a matter of fact, as long as your 
little SE will update, it should make it better.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much Joshua and Diane, perhaps i will take the plunge and 
> update.  Will it slow my little old SE down for a bit for a while.
> 
> 
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Aug 2020, at 13:56, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>> 
>> It really is a good idea to keep your phones updated. One of the main 
>> reasons is Security. Another one is each time the update happens, there may 
>> be some bugs, but, it’s not that bad at the phone cannot be operated at all.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
 On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
>>> thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>>> apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>>> have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>>> that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
>>> the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>>> rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>>> battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>>> page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>>> Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>>> my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>>> It really isn't that bad.
>>> 
 On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
 Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me 
 to
 update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the 
 terms
 did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
 are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Judy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
> is deffinately in my audible app.
> 
>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option. I have
>> all
>> of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
>> exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
>> show
>> zip. Maybe it’s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
>>> title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>>> either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
>>> site
>>> and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
>>> up
>>> over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
>>> navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
>>> being
>>> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
>>> option to Canada.
>>> 
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
 and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
 
 Book Details,
 
 
 Rate and Review,
 
 
 Mark as Finished,
 
 
 Exchange this title,
 
 
 Send This Boo,
 
 
 Add to favorites,
 
 
 Cancel.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 HTH,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 
 
 "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
 pass
 himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
 hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
 granting
 

RE: for Joshua

[Karen Poulakos]

I am using an older SE, and it's working just fine with the update.

Karen P

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Judy Pryor
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for Joshua

Thank you so much Joshua and Diane, perhaps i will take the plunge and update.  
Will it slow my little old SE down for a bit for a while.


Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Aug 2020, at 13:56, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> It really is a good idea to keep your phones updated. One of the main reasons 
> is Security. Another one is each time the update happens, there may be some 
> bugs, but, it�s not that bad at the phone cannot be operated at all.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
>> thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
>> the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> It really isn't that bad.
>> 
>>> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>>> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
>>> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the terms
>>> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
>>> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Judy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 
 Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
 enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
 anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
 book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
 except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
 I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
 is deffinately in my audible app.
 
> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don�t have that option. I have
> all
> of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
> exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
> show
> zip. Maybe it�s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
>> title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>> either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
>> site
>> and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
>> up
>> over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
>> navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
>> being
>> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
>> option to Canada.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
>>> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>>> 
>>> Book Details,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rate and Review,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark as Finished,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Exchange this title,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Send This Boo,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Add to favorites,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cancel.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass
>>> himself,� and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>>> granting
>>> 
>>> grace to others, I�ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>>> Herbert
>>> 

Re: for Joshua

[Judy Pryor]

Thank you so much Joshua and Diane, perhaps i will take the plunge and update.  
Will it slow my little old SE down for a bit for a while.


Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Aug 2020, at 13:56, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> It really is a good idea to keep your phones updated. One of the main reasons 
> is Security. Another one is each time the update happens, there may be some 
> bugs, but, it’s not that bad at the phone cannot be operated at all.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
>> thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
>> apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
>> have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
>> that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
>> the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
>> rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
>> battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
>> page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
>> Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
>> my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>> It really isn't that bad.
>> 
>>> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>>> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
>>> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the terms
>>> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
>>> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Judy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 
 Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
 enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
 anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
 book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
 except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
 I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
 is deffinately in my audible app.
 
> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option. I have
> all
> of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
> exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
> show
> zip. Maybe it’s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
>> title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>> either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
>> site
>> and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
>> up
>> over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
>> navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
>> being
>> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
>> option to Canada.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
>>> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>>> 
>>> Book Details,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rate and Review,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark as Finished,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Exchange this title,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Send This Boo,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Add to favorites,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cancel.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>>> granting
>>> 
>>> grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>>> Herbert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 
 
 Mary,
 
 
 
 

RE: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

[Richard Turner]

I did that.
No battery replacement, but after resetting it without a Sim card I was able to 
use it like an iPod.

See what the battery replacement will cost and I'd double check with Apple to 
confirm you will be able to set it up as a WiFi device if you get a new battery.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

Exactly that’s what I’m afraid of! But too would you guys change the battery on 
a 5S, to use it as an IPod of sorts? If so, could this phone be set up without 
a Sim card inserted?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 29 ago 2020, a la(s) 7:36 a.m., Gordon  escribió:
> 
> I would speak with Apple about this and see if a battery replacement might 
> be possible. You don't want that battery exploding on you for sure. That 
> could be highly dangerous and might even start a fire. You should not ever 
> plug this phone into power until this is resolved.
> 
>> On 8/29/2020 7:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>> Can one set up and use an iPHone 5S without a SimCard inserted in? This 
>> phone is deleted and restored to default, however the screen is so swollen 
>> that it’s sometimes difficult flicking, double-tapping and others. If I had 
>> enough money, I’d buy myself an IPOd touch at least for the purposes of 
>> multimedia consumption, and others (I’d like it to be sort of a Victor 
>> Reader Stream on Stieriods), but ‘m worried that the 5S might exlode on me! 
>> what would you guys suggest? or just leave it as a museum artifact?
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
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RE: can you watch movies on disney+ on data when not connected to WIFI?

[timothy.appleby1701]

Hi there, it's better to have the title you wish to watch downloaded so that 
you can watch the particular movie when wi-fi isn't available as surely you 
know, watching video feeds cost loads of data.

I hope this helps.

Tim Appleby

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: can you watch movies on disney+ on data when not connected to WIFI?

Hi to all.  The subject says it all.  If I'm out and about and I want to watch 
a movie on Disney Plus, can I do so, and use data if not connected to a wifi 
network?  I tried this morning for a second while I was waiting for food at 
McDonalds and I kept getting the message not connected to the internet when I 
tried to access my watch list of movies.  Thanks for any help.

--
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Re: Still no luck with Audible

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard,

I believe Mary said she checked some recently acquired books when trying to 
locate the Exchange option. I was thinking the same thing but when I went 
through my library including titles I finished a few years ago, I still had the 
exchange option in the app for all of them.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 12:17:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Still no luck with Audible

I am in Canada and as somebody else already pointed out, this feature is not 
yet available here. However, is this not an option which would disappear after 
a while? What I mean is that I thought you can only return a book within a 
certain time frame, not sure what it is, but I wonder if Mary checked this for 
a book she purchased recently or one she purchased more than 2 or 3 months ago.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Still no luck with Audible

Mary,

I'm not usually a fan of what I'm going to suggest because it sounds like one 
of those standard boilerplate recommendations but you might delete and 
reinstall the Audible app. I'm only suggesting this if you're sure you have the 
most recent version installed and you haven't downloaded a lot of titles to 
your device. It just isn't right that the Exchange this title option doesn't 
appear when you open the menu of one of your Audible library books.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 9:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Still no luck with Audible

Hi Alan,
Yes, according to my profile, exchanges are part of my account.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>
> ?Mary,
>
> I apologize if you already said you'd done this but have you checked your 
> profile which is the last option on the right of the Audible app bottomline 
> toolbar? When I check that, it states the various features of my Audible 
> account including a separate button for exchanges. I'm curious whether 
> exchanges are listed under your profile.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> motte...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 7:17 PM
> To: VIPhone via
> Subject: Still no luck with Audible
>
> Well, I did sign out of my Audible account on one of my phones and then sign 
> back in. I still don?t have that exchange or return option in my menu, so if 
> I want to return something, i?ll just have to do it the old-fashioned way on 
> the PC. Strange.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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can you watch movies on disney+ on data when not connected to WIFI?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  The subject says it all.  If I'm out and about and I want
to watch a movie on Disney Plus, can I do so, and use data if not
connected to a wifi network?  I tried this morning for a second while
I was waiting for food at McDonalds and I kept getting the message not
connected to the internet when I tried to access my watch list of
movies.  Thanks for any help.

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Re: an email or gmail question

[Kay Malmquist]

HI Mike,
Yes he does have another computer that he uses that those accounts on and I 
have looked in the past and all seemed right, but I'm going to look again 
and hope I find something, because that is all I can think that might be 
wrong.  Otherwise, his accounts are set up like mine and mine does just what 
it is supposed to do.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)"

- Edward Herbert

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike B
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 10:38 PM
  Subject: Re: an email or gmail question


  Hi Kay,

  Does your hubby have his email address linked to a computer that's sharing 
the email account?  If so, look in the email client of the computer to find 
the save a copy on the server settings.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 6:01 PM
  Subject: RE: an email or gmail question


  I Kay,



  On your phone you should be able to dig deeper in to the POP 3 account 
settings,



  I can’t remember exactly but it’s off one of the mail box addresses in 
this case incoming (pop3) address that takes you in to more settings / 
features for the account,



  Have a look and see what you can find.



  Sorry I no longer have a pop account to try this with.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Saturday, 29 August 2020 10:33 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: an email or gmail question



  The only thing is that it works perfectly on my phone and computer.  I can 
not figure out what is different between his settings and mine.




  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)"



  - Edward Herbert


- Original Message - 

From: Dennis Long

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 12:24 PM

Subject: RE: an email or gmail question



In the mail settings there is a option for how long to keep the email. 
I would also look at a third party email client.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an email or gmail question



Hi all,

I have a strange one for you.  I am trying to figure out why when my 
husband goes through his emails on his phone and deletes them and even 
empties the trash folder, when he goes back in to read more, these emails 
come back.  Is there anywhere on the phone that you can turn off to save a 
copy of messages on server?  It looks like that is what is happening.  He is 
using pop 3.  Or do you have any other ideas?  Thanks in advance for any 
thoughts.




Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)"



- Edward Herbert


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Re: for Joshua

[Diane Giannetti]

It really is a good idea to keep your phones updated. One of the main reasons 
is Security. Another one is each time the update happens, there may be some 
bugs, but, it’s not that bad at the phone cannot be operated at all.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
> thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
> apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
> have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
> that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
> the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
> rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
> battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
> page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
> Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
> my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
> It really isn't that bad.
> 
>> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
>> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the terms
>> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
>> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
>>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
>>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
>>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>>> 
 On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
 Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option. I have
 all
 of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
 exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
 show
 zip. Maybe it’s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
> title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
> either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
> site
> and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
> up
> over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
> navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
> being
> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
> option to Canada.
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
>> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>> 
>> Book Details,
>> 
>> 
>> Rate and Review,
>> 
>> 
>> Mark as Finished,
>> 
>> 
>> Exchange this title,
>> 
>> 
>> Send This Boo,
>> 
>> 
>> Add to favorites,
>> 
>> 
>> Cancel.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting
>> 
>> grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>> Herbert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I'm in my Library tab on the iOS Audible app and double tap the
>>> Menu button to the right of one of my listed books, I get a list of
>>> vertically stacked options one of which is Exchange this title.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> 
>>> 

Re: for Joshua

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Well, the good news is, I don't really mind the new update like I
thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed like
apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.  I didn't
have the option of saying later.  There is this weird tapping thing
that might happen when you update.  You will feel it when you swipe on
the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help you get
rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar to see the
battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go to battery on
page one of your phone to see that.  Although, usually I can just ask
Siri current battery level and she will tell me the battery level of
my iPhone and a bluetooth device.  If you have to update, good luck.
It really isn't that bad.

On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the terms
> did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how
> are you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Judy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>
>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
>> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
>> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
>> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>>
>>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option. I have
>>> all
>>> of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
>>> exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone
>>> show
>>> zip. Maybe it’s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir 
 wrote:

 
 I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
 title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
 either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible
 site
 and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens
 up
 over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
 navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of
 being
 able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
 option to Canada.

> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>
> Book Details,
>
>
> Rate and Review,
>
>
> Mark as Finished,
>
>
> Exchange this title,
>
>
> Send This Boo,
>
>
> Add to favorites,
>
>
> Cancel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
> pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting
>
> grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Mary,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> When I'm in my Library tab on the iOS Audible app and double tap the
>> Menu button to the right of one of my listed books, I get a list of
>> vertically stacked options one of which is Exchange this title.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>
>>
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:21 PM
>>
>>
>> To: VIPhone via
>>
>>
>> Subject: Returning or exchanging audible books using the iOS audible
>> app
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Someone in a WhatsApp group I am part of says that he is able to
>> exchange audible books from within the iOS audible app. If you go to
>> your library, get the list of books that you have downloaded, and
>> double
>> tap on the menu next to one of those books,

Re: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Exactly that’s what I’m afraid of! But too would you guys change the battery on 
a 5S, to use it as an IPod of sorts? If so, could this phone be set up without 
a Sim card inserted?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 29 ago 2020, a la(s) 7:36 a.m., Gordon  escribió:
> 
> I would speak with Apple about this and see if a battery replacement might 
> be possible. You don't want that battery exploding on you for sure. That 
> could be highly dangerous and might even start a fire. You should not ever 
> plug this phone into power until this is resolved.
> 
>> On 8/29/2020 7:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>> Can one set up and use an iPHone 5S without a SimCard inserted in? This 
>> phone is deleted and restored to default, however the screen is so swollen 
>> that it’s sometimes difficult flicking, double-tapping and others. If I had 
>> enough money, I’d buy myself an IPOd touch at least for the purposes of 
>> multimedia consumption, and others (I’d like it to be sort of a Victor 
>> Reader Stream on Stieriods), but ‘m worried that the 5S might exlode on me! 
>> what would you guys suggest? or just leave it as a museum artifact?
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
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Re: Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

[Gordon]

I would speak with Apple about this and see if a battery replacement 
might be possible. You don't want that battery exploding on you for 
sure. That could be highly dangerous and might even start a fire. You 
should not ever plug this phone into power until this is resolved.


On 8/29/2020 7:33 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

Can one set up and use an iPHone 5S without a SimCard inserted in? This phone 
is deleted and restored to default, however the screen is so swollen that it’s 
sometimes difficult flicking, double-tapping and others. If I had enough money, 
I’d buy myself an IPOd touch at least for the purposes of multimedia 
consumption, and others (I’d like it to be sort of a Victor Reader Stream on 
Stieriods), but ‘m worried that the 5S might exlode on me! what would you guys 
suggest? or just leave it as a museum artifact?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel



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Using and setting up iPhones without Sims?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Can one set up and use an iPHone 5S without a SimCard inserted in? This phone 
is deleted and restored to default, however the screen is so swollen that it’s 
sometimes difficult flicking, double-tapping and others. If I had enough money, 
I’d buy myself an IPOd touch at least for the purposes of multimedia 
consumption, and others (I’d like it to be sort of a Victor Reader Stream on 
Stieriods), but ‘m worried that the 5S might exlode on me! what would you guys 
suggest? or just leave it as a museum artifact?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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QBraille xl review

[Afik Souffir]

Hi all,

Here is a link to review I made about the QBraille xl Braille display from HIMS.
You can comment here, or on the video itself.
And, don't forget to subscribe to my channel.

Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLEcH_xKAO8

Afik.

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Re: for Joshua

[Judy Pryor]

Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night when Apple seemed to be forcing me to 
update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It was only when I disagreed with the terms 
did it go away. Today they are trying again.  What I wanted to know is how are 
you getting along with the latest update.  I am using the old SE.

Many thanks

Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option if I
> enter on the menu of an audible book.  However, I always have to call
> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't return a
> book not even from the audible website.  It has never worked for me
> except to phone.  The option to phone audible is even in the app when
> I'm told I can't return a book.  But the initial exchange this title
> is deffinately in my audible app.
> 
>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Well, Michael, I am in the states, and I don’t have that option. I have all
>> of the other options, including send this book and add to favorites, but
>> exchange is definitely not there. Multiple books on more than one phone show
>> zip. Maybe it’s because I get all my credits at once? Seems very odd.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Michael Feir  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think a couple of those options, "sendd this book" and "exchange this
>>> title" are only available in the US currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>>> either call Audible or go to the full desktop version of the Auydible site
>>> and into "purchase history" in order to return titles. A dialogue opens up
>>> over the page once you double tap on "return" and then you need to
>>> navigate that dialogue. Not too hard at all. I like the thought of being
>>> able to return books from right in the app so I hope they extend that
>>> option to Canada.
>>> 
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I just checked, and if you flick right once from the title of the book
 and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
 
 Book Details,
 
 
 Rate and Review,
 
 
 Mark as Finished,
 
 
 Exchange this title,
 
 
 Send This Boo,
 
 
 Add to favorites,
 
 
 Cancel.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 HTH,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 
 
 "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
 himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
 hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
 granting
 
 grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
 Herbert
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> 
> Mary,
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> When I'm in my Library tab on the iOS Audible app and double tap the
> Menu button to the right of one of my listed books, I get a list of
> vertically stacked options one of which is Exchange this title.
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> Someone in a WhatsApp group I am part of says that he is able to
> exchange audible books from within the iOS audible app. If you go to
> your library, get the list of books that you have downloaded, and double
> tap on the menu next to one of those books,
> 
> you get a bunch of choices, one of which is supposed to be return or
> exchange this book. I have tried this, not because I wanted to exchange
> something, but just because I wanted to see if I have a choice. And I
> don�t. The books I tried it on or a couple of
> 
> recently purchased books. So they definitely met the criteria for
> possible exchange. But I�m not seeing this choice. Is anyone else seeing
> it?
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Re: Smart Bulbs With Alexa?

[Kenny]

Yes too all three of your questions.


A smart light-bulb can only work with a mechanical On/Off switch. You 
obviously need to leave the switch on after setting one up for it to 
work with Lady A.



On 8/29/2020 1:32 AM, Fazil wrote:


Hi, list.

I do apologize if admins think that this is not directly related to 
iPhone.


I live in an older apartment building in Vancouver, Canada.

I got Echo Dot and installed Alexa from the App-Store.

I have three questions,

1.

Can I use smart light-bulbs in old buildings?

2.

Can I use smart bulbs along with traditional bulbs?

I mean I want smart bulbs at a couple of places only.

3.

Does smart bulb work with mechanical switch too?

Thanks!

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