Re: Mark's Update to iOS and iPad OS 17.2: An Extremely Positive Experience

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mark,

I’m glad that it went well for you. Much like you I have not had any show 
stopping bugs. It’s been pretty good so far.

Ed W.


> On Dec 15, 2023, at 12:07 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Okay, I updated all of my devices, including my Apple TV boxes to their
> respective latest versions of the OS.
> 
> I am absolutely stunned to report that after testing virtually every aspect
> of all of my must-have native and third-party apps, I have not yet
> encountered a bug.
> 
> And, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think Apple has done a splendid
> job with the new version of the native TV app for iOS, iPad OS and, yes,
> dare I say it, even TV OS.
> 
> I also updated my Apple Watch Series 7 to Watch OS 10.  Again, I can not
> find a bug.
> 
> In fact, the hap tic time works consistently using the same gestures I've
> used since the feature was introduced many years ago.
> 
> I have not yet had the opportunity to use a Braille display with the latest
> OS so cannot comment on that aspect of the OS.
> 
> However, I will say that all of the VoiceOver glitches that I experienced,
> when having two active E SIM cards installed, has been completely resolved.
> 
> Speaking only for myself, I am absolutely delighted with iOS 17.2.  I am
> running the OS on my beloved 1GB iPhone 14 Pro Max.
> 
> Before installing the OS I:
> 
> 1.
> Made a full backup of the device on my beloved Windows 10 PC with the latest
> version of iTunes.
> 
> 2.
> Backed up the device to iCloud.
> 
> 3.
> Closed every app via the App Switcher.
> 
> 4.
> Disconnected any non-crucial devices from my primary network.
> 
> 5.
> Disconnected all of the sub-networks from the primary network.
> 
> 6.
> Rebooted the device, twice, and allowed it to sit idle for 2-minutes.  This
> insures that the device has full acquisition of the network.
> 
> 7.
> Downloaded and install the OS, OTA (over the air).
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Mark is Going All in on the On-Demand Steaming App Services, for one Year

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Dave and listers,

Dave: YouTube TV is kind of hit and miss with audio description. Some on-damand 
content has AD, I have only found one live channel with AD, and it is not easy 
to get to.
1. Navigate to the TBS feed, make the play controls show.
2. Navigate to the audio tab in the play controls screen.
3. Navigate down to the second audio channel. This will be the English AD.

Ed


> On Nov 9, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Dave Grossoehme  wrote:
> 
> Do you receive Audio Description from youTube TV?  I have had their service 
> and at the present don't receive Audio Description or ad from them.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On 11/8/2023 8:57 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Thank to the extreme patience of list member, Ed, in addition to subscribing
>> to Paramount Plus, I have decided to also subscribe to Peacock Plus, Hulu
>> with Disney Plus, and Max Plus, each for one year.
>> 
>> Between these subscriptions, along with my Youtube TV and Prime Video
>> subscriptions, I should finally be able to gain consistent access to a great
>> number of ventage television series produced in the distant pass.
>> 
>> Ed has assured me, that of today, anyway, these apps are Voice Over
>> accessible on iOS, iPad OS, and on my beloved Apple TV.
>> 
>> After doing some serious number crunching, I have determined that the
>> combined annual premiums for all of these on-demand services, remains
>> considerately less than the annual cost of one traditional cable service
>> provider.  It's really quite amazing.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: We Deserve Better from Apple Why I Can No Longer Recommend a Mac to Fellow Blind Computer Users.

[Ed Worrell]

This article is very, very, very late to the game. I have not had this issue 
with Safari freezing on my Mac computers in a very long time. Probably in over 
3 years. I really don’t understand the hatred from the post on AppleVis. The 
AppleVis site has become very negative in the last few years. I’m not saying 
Apple is perfect by any means, but this goes a bit far. I have had more issues 
with my Windows 11 machine with JAWS installed, over the last year.

Ed


> On Oct 8, 2023, at 8:43 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Chrome and Firefox both work really well.
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Group,
>> 
>> Since this editorial involves primarily Safari browser and since there are 
>> other browsers such as Firefox that can be used on the Mac, has anyone tried 
>> Firefox on a Mac or perhaps any other browser?
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/8/2023 7:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> I love my iPhone and even my Apple TV, but while I tried Voiceover on a MAC 
>>> a little, it is not a system I would want to deal with on a day-to-day 
>>> bases.
>>> Maybe that is because I have been using Jaws at first with DOS in 1989 and 
>>> since the mid 90’s with Windows, but I can’t even imagine what such a bug 
>>> would do to me now when my retail business runs on a web-based point of 
>>> fsale and accounting platform and I virtually use Chrome (or sometimes 
>>> Edge) along with Excel and Outlook literally all day long.
>>> Of course I don’t claim that Windows 11 with the latest version of a 
>>> Chromium-based web browser or Firefox and Jaws 2023 and for a while now 
>>> Jaws 2024 in Beta is perfect, but it’s very rare that Windows, Chrome or 
>>> Jaws crashes when I use our point of sale, Lightspeed Retail and I often go 
>>> the entire week without having to reboot my computer. On Saturday evenings 
>>> we usually turn all the computers at my store off since we are closed 
>>> Sundays, but once they get turned on Monday morning they stay on until 
>>> Saturday evening.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> janet gross
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 4:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: We Deserve Better from Apple Why I Can No Longer Recommend a Mac 
>>> to Fellow Blind Computer Users.
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone, 
>>> Here is an interesting article I just thought some of you might like to 
>>> read. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.applevis.com/blog/we-deserve-better-apple-why-i-can-no-longer-recommend-mac-fellow-blind-computer-users
>>> We Deserve Better from Apple: Why I Can No Longer Recommend a Mac to Fellow 
>>> Blind Computer Users
>>> As many of you will know from personal experience, there is a longstanding 
>>> issue with VoiceOver on Mac where Safari will frequently become 
>>> unresponsive with VoiceOver repeatedly announcing the message “Safari not 
>>> responding.” When this issue occurs, the user's Mac may become unusable for 
>>> up to several minutes at a time. Sometimes it can be resolved by switching 
>>> away from Safari. Sometimes restarting VoiceOver can resolve the issue. 
>>> However, far too often, the user is unable to switch away from Safari or 
>>> turn VoiceOver off, instead having to simply wait for their Mac to become 
>>> responsive again.
>>> This “Safari not responding” behaviour when using VoiceOver dramatically 
>>> impacts productivity and overall usability of Macs for blind and low vision 
>>> users. Furthermore, it appears that the issue extends beyond just Safari - 
>>> many other common applications that utilise Apple's WebKit browser engine 
>>> can also be affected by the “not responding” problem.
>>> It is also important to point out this issue occurs regardless of the 
>>> specification level of the Mac - it has been widely experienced on the 
>>> latest Apple silicon-equipped Macs with 16GB or more of RAM, so even owners 
>>> of top-tier new Mac hardware still face this crippling VoiceOver bug.
>>> This critical problem has persisted for years across multiple MacOS 
>>> versions without a permanent fix from Apple. Given the longevity and level 
>>> of disruption caused by this bug across Safari and other applications, I 
>>> can unfortunately no longer in good faith recommend Macs to anyone who 
>>> relies on using VoiceOver. The impact of this bug when performing routine, 
>>> and often critical, tasks in Safari and other applications simply makes 
>>> macOS an unreliable and frustrating platform.
>>> Macs have traditionally been popular within the blind community, and they 
>>> offer some great accessibility features. However, frankly, Apple should be 
>>> utterly ashamed that they have let this issue persist for so long without a 
>>> permanent fix. It's a failing that raises serious questions about the 
>>> company's frequently stated commitment to accessibility. There can be no 
>>> doubt that if sighted users were to experience something similar, that it 
>>> would receive 

Re: The importance of calling Apple Accessibility

[Ed Worrell]

I mostly agree with this statement. I haven’t had any issues with Apple 
Accessibility responding to my emails. In fact, I get a response with more 
questions about 90% of the time. It all depends on how in-depth you are in your 
email, and describing the issue. Both forms of communication are useful, to say 
one is better than the other, is hard to actually say. Granted you feel like 
they can’t ignore you if you call, but to say they prefer the calls is a bit of 
a stretch. Honestly if you report something, either via email, or via the phone 
it will be heard, and it takes time for the devs/engineers to look at the 
issue. Sometimes you might not hear anything from the Accessibility team, as 
they are not only dealing with Voiceover bugs, but all of the accessibility 
bugs being reported across the devices/OS’s. I honestly feel however you want 
to report bugs is probably just fine with the accessibility team, just report 
them when you find them.

Ed

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:46 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
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> I agree with Richard.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> From Top Tech Tidbits, an article I highly recommend everyone read.
>  
> https://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/absolute-importance-calling-apple-accessibility-directly
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Re: keyboard on apple watch?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Yes, on the Apple Watch 7 and up there is a on screen keyboard. Just as stated 
before: double tap on the text field, and the keyboard should pop up, it will 
take up about 3/4 of the screen. It is accessible and convenient some of the 
time. It gets much easier to use with Watch OS 10, as they have added the touch 
typing function to the rotor  when in a text field. You also have the same 
rotor editing functions on the watch as you do on the iPhone. It’s a pretty 
cool feature.

Ed


> On Aug 2, 2023, at 10:21 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> However, if you want to edit after dictating, you will probably want to be 
> using a keyboard.  Either the Phone keyboard if you can get that to work or 
> an external keyboard.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
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> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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> 
>> On Aug 2, 2023, at 7:13 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> When you tap the button to edit text, a tiny keyboard should appear. In the 
>> bottom right corner is a Dictate button. Double-tap that, dictate your 
>> message, and do a two-finger double-tap to stop dictating. That's way easier 
>> than using the keyboard. Your phone may also offer to let you type to the 
>> watch using it's keyboard.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Apple watch 8 is the omly Apple watch that I know to have an on screen 
>>> keyboard. I have my wireless bluetooth Logi-Tech 380 paired with my Apple 
>>> watch Se.
>>> 
>>> Donna
 
 Hi,
 Maybe I am expecting way too much for such a little screen, but is
 there an onscreen keyboard for the apple watch?
 I just got my watch last week and am still trying to figure out all
 its capabilities.
 
 I received a slack message this morning which showed up on my watch
 and wanted to reply to it. There were some "canned" responses, but if
 I double tapped in the message area it said I had to use scribble mode
 to write my answer.
 
 So is there a way to enable an on-screen keyboard?
 
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 Accessibility Specialist
 IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
 
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Re: The New Redesigned Envission App

[Ed Worrell]

Interesting, I hate the new interface. The old interface was one of the main 
reasons I used Envision AI over Seeing AI. Now it has the same clunky interface 
problems as the Seeing AI app. 

Ed


> On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner  
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> I just received this note.  The app is a little easier to use in my opinion.  
> Read on for their details.
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> Better personalisation, improved interface and much more. 
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> Hi there, 
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> We are excited to announce the release of the redesigned Envision App version 
> 3.2.0! The Envision App has just received a personal touch, allowing you to 
> tailor your experience like never before. Read more in our blog post: 
> Introducing the Redesigned Envision App!
>  
> In this latest release, we have focused on enhancing the app's features, 
> ensuring ease of use, and personalization options. Here's a glimpse of what 
> you can expect:
>  
> More Focus on Features: All features are now conveniently located in the main 
> menu, eliminating the need to navigate through different tabs. Switching 
> between features has never been easier.
> VoiceOver and Talkback Focus: We have rebuilt the menu with VoiceOver and 
> Talkback in mind, reducing the number of gestures required to customize your 
> preferences. For iPhone users, simply swipe up or down with one finger to 
> switch between features effortlessly.
> Personalize Your Menu: You now have the freedom to customize your main menu 
> according to your preferences. Arrange the order of features or hide the ones 
> you seldom use. Simply head to the Settings to make the Envision App truly 
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> Informative Screens: We've included informative screens for most features to 
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> Enhanced Brand Consistency: Our app's design now aligns with our social media 
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> Expanded Device Compatibility: We are delighted to announce that the Envision 
> App is now available on iPad and Android tablets, ensuring accessibility on 
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Re: Something of interest, maybe?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Yes I believe you are correct. It sounds like the closed caption function is 
active, and the media description function for voice over is active as well.

As for the VPN, with the MLB app, if she uses one to access the local feed she 
may be blacked out. MLB is really bad about blacking out games this year.

Ed


> On Jul 15, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Maria,
> 
> Are you actually activating the closed captioning for the hearing impaired? 
> If so, that would explain this.
> 
> With my MLB app here in the Buffalo, New York area, I get local commercials 
> somehow instead of the NYC commercials.  I am wondering if you are running a 
> VPN? I wondered what might happen if you ran a VPN with these ever more 
> targeted methods of IP sniffing and targeting of local adds. I wonder if you 
> went too far with this would the streams not play.
> 
> 
> On 7/15/2023 1:55 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
>> I listen to the Yankees baseball games on the MLB app, but I don't get the 
>> local commercials, because I don't live in the broadcast area. The national 
>> commercials I get are absolutely horrendous and repetitive.  I accidentally 
>> discovered a way to get rid of all commercials, but I do miss the announcer 
>> and the crowd.  Anyway, with a game in progress, I ask Siri for the score, 
>> swipe around till I find a play by play button, double tap on it, which 
>> opens my TV app.  .  I then get another play by play button, and when I 
>> double tap on it, I get a pitch by pitch description by Siri.  I love it.
>> 
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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple 
over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them 
approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with 
reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers involved. This 
is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that someone has found 
a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around it too. Just my 
thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so go on with your 
rant.

Thanks for listening,

Ed



> On May 22, 2023, at 2:21 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their 
> lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action.
> I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs!
> Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in 
> ios17 if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug 
> and the dictation inconveniences!
> Davy
>  
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>  
> You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do 
> something about it. supp...@voicedream.com 
>  
> 
>  
>  
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> 
> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything 
>> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, 
>> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I 
>> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If 
>> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting 
>> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, 
>> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. 
>> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are 
>> seeing?
>>  
>> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
>> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Yep, that’s it.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com 
>>>  
>>> Https://devinprater.micro.blog 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert >>> > wrote:
  
 Hello.
 I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
 problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
 and I'm not aware?
 
 Scott
 
 On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  
 mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
> Folks
> 
> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
> 
> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not 
> work
> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
> 
> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
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Re: the facebook bug in which links are nolonger spoken has gone

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Just like the last 3 or 4 times that you’ve posted this “Bug”, this simply 
isn’t effecting other users. It is an isolated issue. You will have to contact 
Facebook accessibility. I have not had this bug for several months now.

Ed


> On May 6, 2023, at 3:16 AM,   
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> Hi folks 
> 
> The subject says it all but I want to stress that the bug was not solved by
> a ios ap update of facebook. Facebook has made some under the hood
> improvements without updating and that is happening more and more and more
> with all kinds of apps.
> I fear this is not a good sign for us depending on accessibility at all. 
> I guess within some years, app updates will nolonger be issued as the UI of
> apps will be changed automatically.
> Davy 
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Re: plese follow me and DO reportagain to Facebooks link bug

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

What you are not understanding is that many people have commented on your bug 
report. We are not having the bugs you seem to have with the Facebook app. We 
can not reproduce the issue. It sounds like it is an isolated issue on your app 
install or device. Have you tried uninstalling Facebook and reinstalling it? 
This might force the latest version to fix its self.

Ed


> On Apr 29, 2023, at 4:59 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Dear 
> 
> Do you really think I will mention updates without updating my apps in 
> advanced I have been in highschool until my 21 years old! It is eventually a 
> bug!
> Davy 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Dennis Long
> Verzonden: vrijdag 28 april 2023 21:28
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: plese follow me and DO reportagain to Facebooks link bug
> 
> Please update your app before saying it isn't solved.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 5:21 AM
> To: davycupp...@gmail.com
> Subject: plese follow me and DO reportagain to Facebooks link bug
> 
> Hi folks 
> 
> The facebook devs are reluctant to solve this tramendous bug now fort he 3th 
> update. We are on V412 now. And the bug has occured since V409 so for all the 
> folks on V408 or lower, do not update the facebook ios app for iphone or 
> ipad. 
> 
> So please do report again again and again each day!
> Whats the problem: embedded links in newsfeets are nolonger spoken by 
> voiceover.
> Regards
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Re: plese follow me and DO reportagain to Facebooks link bug

[Ed Worrell]

This issue has been fixed. I had it many, many weeks ago.

Ed


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> Hi folks 
> 
> The facebook devs are reluctant to solve this tramendous bug now fort he 3th
> update. We are on V412 now. And the bug has occured since V409 so for all
> the folks on V408 or lower, do not update the facebook ios app for iphone or
> ipad. 
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> So please do report again again and again each day!
> Whats the problem: embedded links in newsfeets are nolonger spoken by
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Re: Apple Translation Application, possible OCR?

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The OCR is perfect. It doesn’t offer synthetic speech to read the captured 
text. You have to read the captured text with Voiceover. Which works perfect 
for me. There are a lot of blind/low vision users that like the synthetic 
speech option. I was simply informing people that is not an option. The 
OCR/text recognition is lightning fast. It was simply a discovery, use it if 
you want, or not. I'm not forcing you. Lighten up.
 

> On Apr 6, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I am sure the translation possibilities are wonderful for some people or when 
> you are maybe on holidays somewhere you don't speak the language. However, 
> when it comes to OCR why use something which you say is really not that great 
> if there are other solutions which work really well and are also free, the 
> primary one which comes to mind is the Seeing AI app which has both instant 
> OCR as well as more ttraditional OCR.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Worrell
> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 8:49 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Apple Translation Application, possible OCR?
> 
> 
> I have recently been playing around with the Apple Translation application. 
> Its translations are quick and from what I can tell accurate. I noticed the 
> Camera tab at the bottom of the screen. I started to investigate what this 
> might be useful for, first and for most, snap a photo of a document in any 
> language and have it translated in to any of the supported languages. This is 
> really cool and it is super quick if you have the languages downloaded to 
> your device. I started to wonder what else I could do with this?
> 
> After exploring this a little more, I discovered that you can set the capture 
> language, and the translation language to the same, so in my case. English 
> American, to English American. Turns out this quickly becomes an off line OCR 
> for the visually impaired. Right now it’s not perfect. It is not read out 
> loud after it’s translated, but you can navigate the text with Voiceover 
> without any issues. It’s a quick and dirty OCR solution, and it’s free.
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Apple Translation Application, possible OCR?

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translations are quick and from what I can tell accurate. I noticed the Camera 
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useful for, first and for most, snap a photo of a document in any language and 
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Re: What it Means when VoiceOver says the word, "Coupon" in the latest versions of iOS

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I actually believe what is happening, is that the image detection/text 
detection is being too verbose at times. It is seeing the layout of text and 
images as a coupon. I have seen this and have asked my sighted wife to  look at 
it for me. Sometimes in apps or even in the iOS operating system there are 
little images, not unlike emojis, that make the OS interface “pretty” for 
sighted users. Sometimes Voiceover thinks it’s smarter than it has to be and it 
announces this as a coupon, and I have found the only way to stop it from 
happening is to turn off the text detection in the Voiceover Recognition 
section of Voiceover settings.

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Re: app switcher on apple tv

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Hello,

It depends on what remote you’re using. If it’s the old school remote or the 
new Siri Remote, you’ll have to triple click the Up button to close the first 
app and then you can click the up button twice on each app after that to close. 
If you’re using the original Siri Remote, you’ll have to swipe up twice on the 
track pad. This will close the applications.

I hope this helps,

Ed Worrell
 

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> Justed updated apple tv to 16. App switcher won’t close apps. Is it just me? 
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Re: Annoyance with Message App

[Ed Worrell]

Much like Richard,

I can’t duplicate this bug either. I can add multiple contacts to the contact 
field, and then navigate down to the message field and type.

Ed


> On Oct 27, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Cannot duplicate this running 16.1 on my 13 pro.
> I hit compose.
> I entered one friend's name, doubled tapped their number that showed up.
> I entered another name, double tapped that person's phone number.
> I touched near the bottom of the screen and there was the text message body 
> area so I double tapped and the keyboard appeared ready to go.
> I wrote my message and sent it off.
> I do have very few of the extra apps showing on the screen.
> I do not have subject lines on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
> Gallik
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2022 9:42 AM
> To: viPhone  
> Subject: Annoyance with Message App
> 
> I’m continually encountering a most annoying issue in the native Message app; 
> whenever I try to add more than one recipient to a composition the app does 
> not allow me to get into the message body until I’ve hit the “Add Contact” 
> button and immediately then cancel.  I’ll explain in more detail:
> 
> 1) Obviously, I select the “Compose” button.
> 2. I enter one of my nieces’ name and choose appropriately from “Results.”
> 3. I enter a second niece’s name and likewise select appropriately from 
> “Results.”
> 
> At this point, I think I should be able to focus in the message subject line 
> or body text area.  But this is not what happens, the virtual keyboard for 
> recipients remains in effect and there isn’t any way that I can determine to 
> get to the message area.
> 
> 4. I activate the “Add Contact” button and immediately hit cancel whereupon 
> I’m then relieved from the recipient section and able to focus on the 
> subject/body text areas.
> 
> This seems to me to be a bug; I believe that once I’ve selected the second 
> (or third or fourth, etc.) recipient I should be able to go to compose the 
> message.
> 
> BTW: this is not new in iOS 16.?, it was evident as far back as iOS14.? that 
> I recall.  I just finally sick of this bug.
> 
> Any suggestions or advice?
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Re: A Question for Apple TV Plus Subscribers

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mark,

Yes, you’ll have to open the settings application on the Apple TV, navigate to 
the apps section and then find the Apple TV option, open it and the option to 
turn off play on hover should be a toggle. Toggle this into the off position. 
This should do it.  

Ed


> On Oct 3, 2022, at 5:00 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I just updated to the latest version of TV OS and have noticed that Apple TV
> Plus Channel video trailers automatically play when focus lands on their
> associated videos.  This is extremely frustrating when attempting  to listen
> to VoiceOver.
> 
> Question:  Is there a ways to disable Apple TV Plus automatic video playback
> in the latest version of TV OS?
> 
> Steps to reproduce:
> 
> 1.
> From the main menu, select TV.
> 
> 2.
> Select Apple TV Plus channel.
> 
> 3.
> Place focus on the Featured area and move focus to the right or left.  
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Thoughts on Brailliant?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

The basic navigation commands between the Braillenote Apex and the Brailliant 
are the same. Your wife should not have any issues transferring her knowledge 
to the new display. Humanware has done a great job with making it comfortable 
for long time braille users to simply pick it up and use it.

Ed


> On Aug 18, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
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> Hi Brandon.  I have had a BI20X for over a year.  I like it very much.  I use 
> it for church since they email me the order of worship.  I copy it onto the 
> unit and use it during the service.  I'm very satisfied with it, and they 
> continue to work out some of the bugs with updates.  If I remember the 
> BrailleNote commands correctly, there's a lot of similarity.  HTH.
> If you or your wife have any questions I can help with,  feel free to email 
> me off list at pau...@roadrunner.com. 
> 
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Brandon A. Olivares
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 1:35 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Thoughts on Brailliant?
> 
> My wife is looking for a good braille display and we're looking at the 
> Brailliant.
> 
> She is used to the old Braille Note (the Apex) so is wondering how similar 
> the commands are to that.
> 
> She wants to be able to use it standalone to cantor at church in particular. 
> I know you can load documents on it, right?
> 
> Any information or tips would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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Re: Libre 2 and iPhone 12 mini phone cannot activate sensor

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

If I remember right the nfc sensor that is needed to utilize the Libre is 
located near the top edge of the phone that contains the camera. I had to place 
the sensor just to the left of the camera (towards the center of the phone) to 
make the scan work properly.

Ed



> On Aug 9, 2022, at 4:02 AM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Thank you very much for the input. I have to tell you, we had switch to 
> spectrum for our mobile services. In terms of customer service, it has been 
> nothing less than a disaster. We are going out of town on Thursday, I asked 
> if they could expedite a replacement phone. I offered to pay the additional 
> shipping, no we can’t do that. I had to argue with them to have the $50 
> restocking fee removed for a defective phone. Not necessarily spectrum‘s 
> fault, online and in the store they have very little stock. I’ve spent hours 
> on the phone trying to get everything set up so that when I go in the store 
> to pick up a replacement phone we’re not there for hours. I get to the store 
> everything that I discussed with Spectrum Mobile on the phone there is 
> nothing in the file. My husband says he owes me for the running that I’ve 
> been doing in the effort that I put into setting up this phone. I have been 
> on the phone constantly with spectrum Apple and Abbott Laboratories.
> 
> I’ll let you guys know how this all works out. I was so disgusted I just 
> decided to go with the iPhone promax 13. That’s the model I have and I know 
> that it works with Libre 2.
> 
> For those interested, Libre has come out with I believe they’re calling at 
> the Libre three. The sensors are about the size of a penny. Much much smaller.
> 
> Thank you to everyone that has offered suggestions.
> 
> Have a great day,
> 
> Lynda 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2022, at 8:16 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Linda & Richard,
>> 
>> Just a thought here, do you live in an area that has an Apple outlet 
>> convenient for you to visit?  If so, perhaps you might consider paying that 
>> outlet a visit and asking them to try linking a different iPhone 12 to the 
>> Libre.
>> 
>> On the other hand, if you live where it would be terribly hard to visit an 
>> Apple outlet (as I do here in the middle of Bayfield County, WI) I agree 
>> that demanding a replacement iPhone 12 is your best path to correct the 
>> question.
>> 
>> Another point here, is there anybody else on this list with an iPhone 12 and 
>> using the Libre CGM?  If so and they are not experiencing this problem, then 
>> clearly there is a problem with the iPhone 12 you folks have.  But, 
>> obviously you are already aware of that fact.
>> 
>> 
>> * * * * * * * * * * * *
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
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Re: A Question for Those Experiencing Siri Not Dialing Phone Numbers Beginning with Symbols

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mark,

This isn’t just a problem with special characters. Siri calling many phone 
numbers for me just hangs and doesn’t connect. I think there is a wider issue 
at play here than just special characters.

Ed Worrell
OverHere Consulting LLP
www.overhereconsulting.net <http://www.overhereconsulting.net/>


> On Apr 13, 2022, at 3:09 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am just going to put this out there and if anyone knows of a solution,
> please pass it on.  
> 
> I have researched this bug, on the web, and a great deal of people are
> reporting the problem.  I, as yet, have not discovered a solution.
> 
> If the following makes no sense to you, then just ignore it.
> 
> In iOS15.4.1, Siri will not Dial Telephone Numbers that Begin with a Symbol
> 
> On some Wireless networks, one can selectively display one's CallerID by
> inserting a prefix symbol sequence in front of a telephone number.  
> 
> Please note that the prefix symbol sequence continues to function as
> expected when one manually selects the phone number from the Contacts list
> or from the Favorites page in the Phone app.  The bug does not appear until
> one attempts to use Siri to dial a contact, hands-free.
> 
> Steps to Reproduce the Bug:
> 1.
> Create a Contact with a local telephone number that includes the prefix
> symbol sequence of *31#.  For example "*31#2125551212" (without the
> quotation symbols.)  This will allow the contact (John Doe) to see your
> telephone number even when the show caller ID setting is disabled, in the
> Phone app.
> 
> 2.
> From the Settings area, select the Phone app.
> 
> 3.
> Set [SHOW MY CALLER ID] to OFF.
> 
> 4.
> Say to Siri, "Call John Doe."  Siri will respond with "Calling John Doe" and
> the phone app will appear.  After a few seconds, however, the phone app
> disappears and no call is placed.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: WalkAssist 1.3 is in the app store

[Ed Worrell]

I am using an iPhone 13 Pro, I literally just installed the app today after 
your first email.


> On Feb 24, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> What phone are you using?
>  
> Please give details when stating something isn’t working.
>  
> Also, try deleting the app and reinstalling it.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: WalkAssist 1.3 is in the app store
>  
> I still can’t ;t off of the intro screen. There absolutely is no ok button as 
> some have said there was.
> e
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 10:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: WalkAssist 1.3 is in the app store
>  
> Right, and it only recognizes crosswalks and traffic signals.
> Did you try it at an intersection?
>  
> Where do you live?
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 8:52 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: WalkAssist 1.3 is in the app store
>  
> Interesting idea for an app. I can’t seem to get it to recognize anything… I 
> gave it camera access. 
>  
> I assume there is no interface to the app except for the start up dialog.
>  
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Alex Stone > <mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> It’s not in the U.K. App Store yet.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>> 
>>> On 23 Feb 2022, at 9:46 pm, Richard Turner >> <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you had trouble with the opening screen in your current version and 
>>> finding the OK button, please update to this version and if you gave it a 
>>> rating based on that issue, please update your review?
>>> From the app store
>>> Description
>>> 
>>> Please read below instructions before using the app:
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The app recognizes common obstacles (crosswalk signal, crosswalk and 
>>> traffic signal). The app can be launched through Siri, and when pointed in 
>>> Landscape mode at any Crosswalk signal, it will say "Don't walk", or "Walk" 
>>> based on the signal status. It also does a haptic response for Don't Walk. 
>>> The app does not require data or wifi.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Disclaimer: This version only works in Landscape mode right now. The App is 
>>> in Test mode right now. It is only meant to be used in addition to a cane 
>>> or dog guide. Use it with a harness for best results. The voice will only 
>>> work if your ringer is on. Don't completely rely on the app.
>>> more
>>> What’s New
>>> Version History
>>> Feb 23, 2022 
>>> Version 1.3
>>> The launch screen and button are now fixed for iPhone 8, SE, etc. that 
>>> people were experiencing problems
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The "walk" accuracy will be improved in the next version. Thank you for 
>>> being patient.
>>> App store link:
>>>  
>>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/walkassist/id1599017038 
>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/walkassist/id1599017038>
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
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Re: WalkAssist 1.3 is in the app store

[Ed Worrell]

Interesting idea for an app. I can’t seem to get it to recognize anything… I 
gave it camera access. 

I assume there is no interface to the app except for the start up dialog.

> On Feb 23, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> It’s not in the U.K. App Store yet.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 23 Feb 2022, at 9:46 pm, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> If you had trouble with the opening screen in your current version and 
>> finding the OK button, please update to this version and if you gave it a 
>> rating based on that issue, please update your review?
>> From the app store
>> Description
>> 
>> Please read below instructions before using the app:
>> 
>> 
>> The app recognizes common obstacles (crosswalk signal, crosswalk and traffic 
>> signal). The app can be launched through Siri, and when pointed in Landscape 
>> mode at any Crosswalk signal, it will say "Don't walk", or "Walk" based on 
>> the signal status. It also does a haptic response for Don't Walk. The app 
>> does not require data or wifi.
>> 
>> 
>> Disclaimer: This version only works in Landscape mode right now. The App is 
>> in Test mode right now. It is only meant to be used in addition to a cane or 
>> dog guide. Use it with a harness for best results. The voice will only work 
>> if your ringer is on. Don't completely rely on the app.
>> more
>> What’s New
>> Version History
>> Feb 23, 2022 
>> Version 1.3
>> The launch screen and button are now fixed for iPhone 8, SE, etc. that 
>> people were experiencing problems
>> 
>> 
>> The "walk" accuracy will be improved in the next version. Thank you for 
>> being patient.
>> App store link:
>>  
>> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/walkassist/id1599017038 
>> 
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Re: FDA clears the first iPhone app for delivering insulin, rollout starts this spring

[Ed Worrell]

This is interesting. The OmniPod 5 system was approved about one week earlier. 
It will be on both iOS and Android as well.
Ed


> On Feb 23, 2022, at 10:01 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Article text follows link:
>  
> FDA clears the first iPhone app for delivering insulin, rollout starts this 
> spring
> Chance Miller
> - Feb. 17th 2022 8:44 am PT
> @ChanceHMiller
> from: 
> https://9to5mac.com/2022/02/17/fda-clears-the-first-iphone-app-for-delivering-insulin-rollout-starts-this-spring/
>  
> 
>  
> The Food and Drug Administration has cleared what is described as the 
> first-ever smartphone application capable of initiating insulin delivery on 
> both iOS and Android operating systems. The system here comes from Tandem 
> Diabetes Care, and the application ties in to the company’s t:slim X2 insulin 
> pump.
>  
> Prior to this approval from the FDA, delivery of insulin had to be handed 
> through the pump itself. This change, however, means that users will be able 
> to “program or cancel bolus doses of insulin” using the app for iPhone and 
> Android devices, according to The Verge. Previously, the app could be used 
> for monitoring trends and historical data, but not for initiating the 
> delivery of insulin.
>  
> “This FDA clearance further validates our commitment to 
> innovation and the diabetes community by providing one of the most requested 
> feature enhancements,” said John Sheridan, president and CEO of Tandem 
> Diabetes Care. “With the improvements in diabetes management provided by 
> Tandem’s Control-IQ technology, giving a meal bolus is now the most common 
> reason a person interacts with their pump, and the ability to do so using a 
> smartphone app offers a convenient and discrete solution.”
>  
> Tandem Diabetes Care says that it will make this feature available to 
> existing users at no additional cost. The feature will begin rolling out this 
> spring with a series of “limited launch groups,” with a full launch later in 
> the summer.
>  
> When released, this new feature will be offered in the United 
> States for no additional cost to new t:slim X2 insulin pump customers and to 
> in-warranty customers through a remote software update for the t:slim X2 
> insulin pump and the updated t:connect mobile app. The Company intends to 
> roll out the mobile bolus feature update throughout the spring in a series of 
> limited launch groups, followed by an expanded launch later this summer. 
> Limited launch participants have already been selected.
>  
> This approval from the Food and Drug Administration comes as Apple itself is 
> said to be investigating potential diabetes treatment technology for the 
> Apple Watch. While Apple’s roadmap in this area is ambitious, more recent 
> reports have said that the company has hit multiple roadblocks. One report in 
> 2017 indicated that Tim Cook had been seen actively wearing a glucose tracker 
> prototype on his body around Apple’s campus. 
>  
> You can learn more about today’s announcement in Tandem Diabetes Care’s full 
> press release right here: 
> https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go=vglnk_164563539254310=c1c7d488bb2df8a8b659d5d41634d304=kzzspcqg010023dg000DLp7uaifyz8oek=https%3A%2F%2F9to5mac.com%2F2022%2F02%2F17%2Ffda-clears-the-first-iphone-app-for-delivering-insulin-rollout-starts-this-spring%2F=1=https%3A%2F%2Finvestor.tandemdiabetes.com%2Fnews-releases%2Fnews-release-details%2Ftandem-diabetes-care-announces-fda-clearance-tslim-x2-insulin-0=FDA%20clears%20the%20first%20iPhone%20app%20for%20delivering%20insulin%2C%20rollout%20starts%20this%20spring%20-%209to5Mac=full%20press%20release%20right%20here
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Re: YoutubeTV - Apple TV

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Peter,

I assume you’re talking about changing the audio track to the AD track? If so 
you have to swipe up, or click up on the directional pad on the Apple TV 
remote. Navigate to the audio tab, and find the audio source option and then 
select the secondary audio source option. This should allow you to find the 
alternate audio sources for most channels.

Ed


> On Jan 5, 2022, at 6:02 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone successfully gotten the youtubetv app to work correctly on an 
> Apple TV?  Especially in the areas of changing the audio track?  This is 
> totally accessible on an iPhone/iPad .. but can’t seem to get it to work on 
> the ATV?
>  
> Latest version of IOS and ATV.
>  
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>  
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Ed Worrell]

I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.

The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of headphones 
that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to me. I 
personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of money, 
they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most comfortable pair of 
headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that the audio quality is 
amazing? 

Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are “wireless”, 
Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and it makes for a 
very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out how to get rid of 
the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most “wireless” headphones. 
Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the slightest.

They’re worth it in my book.

Ed


> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
> is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:
>  
>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>  
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
> Max dcost.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Turning off Apple Watch Voice Over sounds

[Ed Worrell]

If you turn the slider all the way down for alerts (in sounds settings on the 
watch), Voiceover sounds are muted for a little bit. The volume of the VO 
sounds sneaks back up after a while…

All most got it.

Ed


> On Oct 27, 2021, at 6:31 AM, Renee Patete  wrote:
> 
> The good thing is that now you can turn off speech. I am so glad that I can 
> do that now, because I can make my watch much quieter when I'm out! I don't 
> often need it on if I'm just using taptic time anyway. 
> 
>> On 28/10/2021, at 01:06, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
>> 
>> No none of the silent modes has effect on Voice Over sounds, including 
>> speech and other sounds.
>> These modes only stop notifications, screen settings etc.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 27 okt. 2021, om 00:37 heeft Simon A Fogarty  het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> You mean like the little clicking noise when you are navigating around the 
>>> face of the watch?
>>> 
>>> Have you tried setting the silence mode to see what happens?
>>> 
>>> I've not tried it my self but silence on the phone stops clicks etc,
>>> But not voiceover so may be it does the same on the phone.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Ronald van Rhijn
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2021 4:56 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Turning off Apple Watch Voice Over sounds
>>> 
>>> Hi Simon,
>>> 
>>> Like Renee said, its about the bleeps and bloops from Voice Over when 
>>> navigating, waking up, pushing the crown accidently enz.
>>> I mailed Apple Accessibility about it.
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> Ronald
>>> 
 Op 26 okt. 2021, om 00:53 heeft 
>>> 
>>> 
 Simon A Fogarty  het volgende geschreven:
 
 What do you mean voiceover sounds?
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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 Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 2021 5:36 am
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 Hi,
 
 Is it not possible to turn off the Voice Over sounds on Apple Watch (6) 
 like we can do on iPhone?
 
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Re: severe bug or not - photo or image description nolonger works on ios15.1.

[Ed Worrell]

I am not seeing the issues you are reporting here. It all works as it should.

Ed



> On Oct 27, 2021, at 8:54 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks 
> 
> Some friends of mine report that the photo description function is less
> accurate in ios15.
> Can this be confirmed? If so, we have to report it to Apple as a bug.
> 
> I've tried it out myself and indeed in the photo app no descriptions are
> read anymore and photo description is set to on.
> Regards
> Davy 
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Re: Turning off Apple Watch Voice Over sounds

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

NO, it doesn’t seem we can. I have been asking Apple Accessibility for this for 
a long time now.

Ed


> On Oct 25, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Is it not possible to turn off the Voice Over sounds on Apple Watch (6) like 
> we can do on iPhone?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ronald
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Re: wallet app crashes

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Yes, this is a known issue with the Wallet app and Voiceover. The current 
workaround is to use explore by touch and to drag your finger to the card you 
want to open instead of flicking to it. After you locate it with explore by 
touch double tap on the card you want to view and once the card details are 
open you can resume flicking with the normal Voiceover gestures.

I hope this helps,

Ed Worrell

  

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 5:21 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yep known issue.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Albert 
> Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 4:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: wallet app crashes
> 
> Hello,
> Maybe this has already Been Discussed.
> When I open the wallet app it keeps crashes, it seemed it happened when I 
> updated my iPhone 12.
> I would be very grateful For your help.
> 
> 
> ALBERT
> 
> JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2021.2107.12
> 
> MICROSOFT WINDOWS
> VERSION 21h1 (OS BUILD 19043.1237)
> 
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Re: Weather.

[Ed Worrell]

Containers are groups of information that you can jump between with the rotor 
feature. These are kind of like regions with in an application. You also see 
containers or landmarks on websites: such as navigation menus, main page 
content, or footer content.

In the Apple Weather app you have: current weather, hourly weather and 10 day 
forecast. You can add the container option to your rotor. When you switch the 
containers option you can flick down to move down the application via 
containers and once you get to the container you want to explore, now you can 
flick right to read the content in the container. You can also flick up to view 
containers above your current reading position.

I hope this helps,
Ed


> On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What are Containers? How are they used? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 10:27 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Weather.
> 
> In the default weather app on the iPhone you do not have to navigate it line 
> by line. If you have the containers option in your rotor you can jump between 
> the sections such as current conditions, hourly, daily forecast and even jump 
> down to the bottom of the app to read amount of rain, temp details, sun and 
> moon phases, etc.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's it.
>> It resets them to their default.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> website:  www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My last one was reset VoiceOver commands; did not find one about defaults. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>>> 
>>> Under VoiceOver settings, commands, if you flick right beyond all of them, 
>>> you will find a restore to defaults. 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." -- Jane Wagner 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> website:  
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33faf8d442a1477aba5c08d97fabc40c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637681197974423247%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7QvAhaayZkq5wB%2B6bufllenD3VsUM7uY42KlyNctuYw%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   What did you do to restore your commands to default? 
>>> 
>>>   -Original Message-
>>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>   Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
>>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>   Subject: Re: Weather.
>>> 
>>>   Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
>>> something that overly impresses me yet. 
>>>   I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
>>>   Back to the drawing board with those.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Richard
>>>   "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." -- Jane Wagner 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   website:  
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33faf8d442a1477aba5c08d97fabc40c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637681197974423247%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7QvAhaayZkq5wB%2B6bufllenD3VsUM7uY42KlyNctuYw%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>

Re: Weather.

[Ed Worrell]

In the default weather app on the iPhone you do not have to navigate it line by 
line. If you have the containers option in your rotor you can jump between the 
sections such as current conditions, hourly, daily forecast and even jump down 
to the bottom of the app to read amount of rain, temp details, sun and moon 
phases, etc.

I hope this helps,

Ed


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> That's it.
> It resets them to their default.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> website:  www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> My last one was reset VoiceOver commands; did not find one about defaults. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Weather.
>> 
>> Under VoiceOver settings, commands, if you flick right beyond all of them, 
>> you will find a restore to defaults. 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> website:  
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33faf8d442a1477aba5c08d97fabc40c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637681197974423247%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7QvAhaayZkq5wB%2B6bufllenD3VsUM7uY42KlyNctuYw%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>What did you do to restore your commands to default? 
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:52 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: Weather.
>>
>>Once I restored my commands to the defaults, it works; though it isn't 
>> something that overly impresses me yet. 
>>I had used the two finger side swipes for copy and paste.
>>Back to the drawing board with those.
>>
>>
>>
>>Richard
>>"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>> it." -- Jane Wagner 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>website:  
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33faf8d442a1477aba5c08d97fabc40c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637681197974423247%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7QvAhaayZkq5wB%2B6bufllenD3VsUM7uY42KlyNctuYw%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>   
>>   
>>
>>    Hi Richard, in the wEather app, with Grouped navigation on, you can 
>> flick between major sections of the app. When you find one you want to 
>> explore, flick right with two fingers. Now your flicks move between items in 
>> that group. when you're done, touch another part of the screen or flick left 
>> with two fingers. 
>>
>>   I hope that helps.
>>
>>   best,
>>   Anna
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>>
>>   Anna, 
>>   Could you give a more detailed explanation of the group navigation 
>> in the weather app? I cannot get any benefit from the group navigation 
>> style... But, thanks for mentioning it because I had not checked the rotor 
>> settings for a long time.
>>
>>   
>>   
>>
>>   Richard
>>   "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it." -- Jane Wagner 
>> 
>>
>>
>>   
>>   
>>   
>>   
>>   website:  
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33faf8d442a1477aba5c08d97fabc40c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637681197974423247%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7QvAhaayZkq5wB%2B6bufllenD3VsUM7uY42KlyNctuYw%3Dreserved=0
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Anna Dresner >  > wrote:
>> 

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

[Ed Worrell]

I really don’t think Apple is going to utilize Touch ID in the iPhones going 
forward. Face ID works beautifully and it gets better with every release. 

Apple keeps updating patents for Touch ID which means they’re actively working 
on it, but this also means if they keep updating the patents they haven’t found 
the technology to work up to their standards.

Just my two cents on the topic.

Ed


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> This was mentioned in a mac rumours release 
> 
> They believe the under screen touch id will be in the 2023 release of the 
> iPhone and a folding iPhone in 2024 
> 
> Me,
> Don't care 
> I just know it will get here when it gets here.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:13 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
> 
> Why are you so sure the iPhone 14 won't have under-glass Touch Id or 
> incorporate a Touch Id side button??
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: September 23, 2021 7:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
> 
> Links worked fine. My comment was for those holding their breath for the 
> iPhone 14. Their beloved fingerprint reader will not be happening.
> For those of us who crave small phones, jump on the iPhone 13 before it goes 
> away.  It’s double the storage of last year’s 12 for the same price.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> On 9/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Kelly,
>> Are you sending this to show that the links broke up on you?
>> The links worked fine for me in Outlook on my computer.
>> Are you set to read HTML eemails?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
>> - Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>> 
>> On 9/23/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Forget Apple's iPhone 13, this is the smartphone to 
>>> buy>> w
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>>> 
>>> And if you really need a new phone now, here is another thing to 
>>> consider if you are trying to decide between an iPhone 12 and 13:
>>> 
>>> iPhone 13 battery life tests show huge improvements over iPhone 
>>> 12>> w
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Re: Fix for the issue with Voiceover not saying the name of some apps in the App Switcher

[Ed Worrell]

Well damn,

Look at that. It’s fixed. Nice catch!

Ed


> On Sep 28, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, or you can flick left and back to the right since I have always had 
> Voiceover speak everything when I was going to the right, but why not make 
> this small change and it's fixed unless of course you have a good reason why 
> you don't want to turn off Reduce Motion.
>  
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: September 28, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fix for the issue with Voiceover not saying the name of some 
> apps in the App Switcher
>  
> An alternative is just to tap the screen when VoiceOver merely says "Active", 
> because then VoiceOver does speak the name of the app. 
> Harry
> 
> 
> On 28 Sep 2021, at 19:42, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>  
> I received a tip on another list regarding the issue where when you bring up 
> the app switcher and flick left through your open apps Voiceover only says 
> "Active, actions available" or something like that but it doesn't first say 
> the name of the app you are on. I think on Applevis it said that it affects 
> only some users and that would make sense because it seems the solution here 
> is to turn off Reduced Motion and I assume some people may not have turned 
> this setting on to begin with hence they probably don't have the issue.
> For me on my iPhone 11 turning off Reduced Motion entirely fixed this and I 
> must say that I can't notice much of a difference in other areas not having 
> this on. I think I turned it on many years ago because when this option was 
> first available there was a different issue and it made sense for voiceover 
> users to turn Reduced Motion on, but I'm not sure if this is still even a 
> concern.
> Anyways, if you have this problem with Voiceover in the app switcher, just go 
> to Settings > Accessibility > Motion (the fourth item if you flick from the 
> top) and check if Reduced Motion is on, if so turn it off and I am pretty 
> certain your app switcher will work just fine.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Allen,

I have used Swift Key in the past. I love the Emoji section of the keyboard, as 
far as the standard qwerty side of the keyboard there is nothing fancy for 
Voiceover users. It’s simply a normal keyboard. We don’t have access to the 
swift key swipe functions. The keyboard always seemed to freeze when using VO 
as well. Once other annoying feature is when typing with it, Swift Key always 
announces the first predictive text option and there is no way to turn this 
announcement off.

All in all, it’s accessible but it’s not a great keyboard for VO users.

Ed


> On Sep 15, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ll be curious to see your feedback Alan. I wasn’t a fan of slide to type 
> when I gave it a brief look because it forced me to use just one finger. I 
> may give it another look to see if it’s advantages outweigh that negative.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 2:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Hi LeDon,
>  
> I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 
> 14, I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no 
> longer have at some point.
>  
> I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
> with my results.
>  
> Alan Lemly  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of LeDon 
> Becker 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:40:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Alan 
> Lemly 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
> iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType 
> app. Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its 
> accessibility and what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I 
> don’t use a Bluetooth keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my 
> iPhone especially when I’m away from home and I’m starting to research other 
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Re: HomePod problem

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mary,

I have had this issue as well. I actually had to go as far as restarting my 
wireless router for anything to help.

I can proudly say I’ve only had this issue once. I guess it was luck, maybe…

Ed


> On Sep 15, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I have a stereo pair of HomePods which was working just fine yesterday. This 
> evening, I went to watch my Apple TV through the HomePods, and they are not 
> responding at all. Siri doesn’t respond. Touching the top of the homePod eels 
> no sound, and in the home app, I am informed on helpfully that this device is 
> not responding. No kidding. This device requires attention. But they don’t 
> give me any hint as to what kind of attention or how I might find out. I 
> unplug them and re-plugged them, and I got the sound that indicates that they 
> came back on. But they do not work at all, and I can’t find anything useful 
> from Apple support site. Does anybody have any idea what kind of attention 
> the device might require aside from a sledgehammer?
> Mary
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Re: BGR: In iOS 15, Siri is losing some of its most useful voice commands

[Ed Worrell]

A lot of those apps already have short cuts that can be set up. I’m not sure 
what the big deal actually is. Apple removes APIs all the time to clean up the 
operating systems.

Ed


> On Jul 30, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A different article I read speculated there will be Shortcuts to perform the 
> actions with many of these third party apps.
> Time will tell.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2021, at 1:44 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dear all. 
>> Even though this article is about  a beta version, i’m sharing it because 
>> it’s publicly available  And therefore  not violating  any rules regarding 
>> beta testing.
>> Overall, Apple lists 22 SiriKit domains that will stop working as of iOS 
>> 15. Third-party apps that utilize these domains will lose some of their 
>> functionality. For example, you will no longer be able to book a ride in 
>> ridesharing apps with Siri. Similarly, you won’t be able to cancel a ride, 
>> get the status of your ride, or leave feedback. Basically, Siri will stop 
>> working with ridesharing apps. That’s a bummer because these are arguably 
>> some of Siri’s most useful commands.
>> In iOS 15, Siri is losing some of its most useful voice commands
>> Apple released the latest iOS 15 public beta on Wednesday. The update will 
>> drop alongside the iPhone 13 in September, but right now, iPhone owners are 
>> testing out the software. Although Apple announced iOS 15 at WWDC this June, 
>> we're still learning more about the update every week. For example, this 
>> week we learned that...
>> 
>> Read in BGR: https://apple.news/A8qHBsSwVRvqqMhLeDHu7lw
>> 
>> 
>> Shared from Apple News
>> 
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Re: ios and Netgear Nighthawk app

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Simon,

The set up of the app/account is not accessible. You may have to find sighted 
assistance to get it going.

After the set up the app is not pretty but it is manageable with VO.

Ed


> On Aug 4, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Lists,
> I have a Netgear Router and wondering if anyone ever setup the Netgear 
> NightHawk app on a mobile phone to work with the router?
>  
> I’m trying to set this app up on my phone or iPad and finding that the fields 
> to input log in details and or associated account details don’t seem to 
> accept input,
> Or infact in one case I tapped on the email text field to enter details
> To suddenly get an audio verification message start talking.
>  
> I’m just wondering if anyone else has ever been able to set this app up  
>  
> Cheers for any help,
> But at this point I think the apps kind of badly written with some of the 
> things it’s doing.
>  
> Cheers for any assistance or information.
>  
>  
> Simon F
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Re: Using Twitterific to follow someone.

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Terri,

Open the side menu in the top left of the screen.
Navigate down to the search option.
A new screen will open with a search field at the top of the screen. Type in 
the field after activating it. 
Press the People tab under the search field and then press the search/done 
button in the bottom right hand corner of the keyboard.

This should give you a list of possible matches.

HTH

Ed Worrell


> On Jul 29, 2021, at 3:50 PM, terri elliott  wrote:
> 
> Hi.  The name of the television station is called wwmt channel 3 Kalamazoo 
> Michigan.
> 
> Terri.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Mickey Quenzer  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Tell me the name of the TV station, and I will be able to help you  to do 
>> that.
>> 
>> 
>> *** MQ ***
>> ***270-776-9871 ***
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of terri 
>> elliott 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 1:24:08 PM
>> To: vi phone 
>> Subject: Using Twitterific to follow someone.
>>  
>> I’m trying to do a search to follow a tv station that I like.  How do I go 
>> about doing this Thanks.
>> 
>> Terri.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dropped calls in iOS 14

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Duane,

You could try turning on the wifi calling feature this might help the dropping 
calls issue.
Find this setting in the settings app, scroll down to Phone and then locate the 
wifi calling option and turn it on.


Ed


> On Jul 25, 2021, at 12:21 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
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> Hello Listers,
> 
> First, thanks again for all the help with direct touch. I may have mentioned 
> that I kept putting off updating to the iOS 14 platform. Today, my call to my 
> son kept getting dropped and my phone went back to the home screen. That has 
> never happened before. Is there some iOS 14 setting that will prevent this 
> from reoccuring? Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Apple Watch Series 3 no longer automatically pairs when I first put it on and wake up iPhone 7

[Ed Worrell]

Kevin,

Yes this is the correct behavior. Any time you turn off the watch or your 
iPhone completely you will have to enter your pin. This holds true for simply 
restarting the devices as well.

HTH

Ed


> On Jul 25, 2021, at 6:29 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Y do you turn your watch and phone off?
> 
> I keep mine on when on charge and I have no issues 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Gibbs
> Sent: Monday, 26 July 2021 10:11 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Watch Series 3 no longer automatically pairs when I first put 
> it on and wake up iPhone 7
> 
> Guys,
> 
> For the last couple weeks I’ve noticed that a behavior I rely on no longer 
> works as expected.  Historically, I used to be able to connect my paired 
> Apple Watch to my iPhone 7 by simply putting it on my wrist, turning it on 
> and then waking up my iPhone.  Now, even though the Bluetooth is turned on 
> and the phone says the watch is connected, I have to enter my password on my 
> watch.  As far as I know, I shouldn’t have to do that.  Has something 
> changed?  I did do the most recent software update but this was going on 
> before that update and the update hasn’t changed a thing.  Is there a setting 
> I have to restore in the Watch App or somewhere else?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Ed Worrell]

?Actually Simon,

Mike Shinoda and Chester were co-lead singers. Right now Mike Shinoda is the 
lead singer. Linkin Park is still very much a band after Chesters passing. Mike 
and the rest of the band are continuing on with music and other projects 
related to LP.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:55 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Um,,,
> 
> Just a note,
> 
> The lead singer of linkon park was chester Bennington,
> 
> Sadly lost to his own hand  4 years ago.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:57 am
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
> favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
> Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
> the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!
> 
> I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Simon
>> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
>> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
>> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
>> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost 
>> dead and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago 
>> and one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often 
>> but I made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
>> say about the tech specs.
>> 
>> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard and list
>> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
>> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
>> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
>> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
>> sure if they really know the specs.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>> 
>> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby 
>> Atmos format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be 
>> produced using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as 
>> an example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
>> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
>> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>> 
>> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>> 
>> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
>> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
>> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
>> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
>> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
>> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will 
>> be adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special 
>> set of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
>> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
>> detail page for easy discovery.
>> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
>> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
>> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
>> artists and labels to 

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I have been playing around with the spacial audio as well. I found that my 
favorite NuMetal band Linkin Park has remastered their first album Hybrid 
Theory in Dolby. …and Oh My God is it amazing this new format. Mike Shinoda, 
the lead singer did the remaster and it’s sooo good!

I am hearing things in the music I have never heard before.

Ed


> On Jun 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
> say about the tech specs.
>  
> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Sieghard and list
> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
> within two years, so I want to go back to wired headphones. My question is 
> therefore as to how do I know if the Beats Flex which I can purchase here in 
> SA has the H1 or W1 chip? I do not really trust salesman because I am not 
> sure if they really know the specs.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Not just any song ever created will suddenly andmagically play in Dolby Atmos 
> format, songs have to be recorded this way just as movies have to be produced 
> using Dolby Atmos. Since Apple used a 1971 song from Marvin Gaye as an 
> example it would appear that songs can be remastered with Dolby Atmos 
> technology, but that of course will take time and I would not expect that 
> every song in Apple's 75 Million song library will be remastered.
>  
> And here a more detailed explanation from an article I found online:
>  
> Apple is bringing Spatial Audio with support for Dolby Atmos to Apple Music. 
> Dolby Atmos is a revolutionary, immersive audio experience that enables 
> artists to mix music so the sound comes from all around and from above. By 
> default, Apple Music will automatically play Dolby Atmos tracks on all 
> AirPods and Beats headphones with an H1 or W1 chip, as well as the built-in 
> speakers in the latest versions of iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Apple Music will be 
> adding new Dolby Atmos tracks constantly and will be curating a special set 
> of Dolby Atmos playlists to help listeners find the music they love. In 
> addition, albums that are available in Dolby Atmos will have a badge on the 
> detail page for easy discovery.
> At launch, subscribers can enjoy thousands of songs in Spatial Audio from 
> some of the world’s biggest artists and music across all genres, including 
> hip-hop, country, Latin, pop, and classical. Apple Music is working with 
> artists and labels to add new releases and the best catalog tracks, as more 
> artists begin to create music specifically for the Spatial Audio experience. 
> Together, Apple Music and Dolby are making it easy for musicians, producers, 
> and mix engineers to create songs in Dolby Atmos. Initiatives include 
> doubling the number of Dolby-enabled studios in major markets, offering 
> educational programs, and providing resources to independent artists.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Noe 
> Villeda
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 4:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> I also like the new dolby audio.  What I don’t get, and maybe I’m missing 
> something.  When I listen to a song that I’ve previously downloaded, 
> shouldn’t it also play using the new dolby surround sound?
>  
> I’ve set it to dolby on automatically in settings, but I noticed a difference 
> at first, but now, music sounds the same whether I turn dolby on or off, just 
> to experiment.  I am using he Beats Solo headphones.
>  
> I’d appreciate any advice.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom 
> Lange
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hi,
> also liked 

Re: May have fixed Twitter problem

[Ed Worrell]

That’s great! My response was going to be a little tongue in cheeck…

Fix the Twitter problems by installing Twitterrific.

The only downside to Twitterrific is no alerts.

Ed


> On Jun 5, 2021, at 3:07 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> I deleted the app, unplug the router for a bit and re-plugged in, reset 
> network settings, and reinstalled Twitter. I had a better reading experience.
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Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote

[Ed Worrell]

Mary,

I am using a LG 4k TV. I honestly couldn’t tell you more than that though. As 
long as you have the new Apple TV, you’ll be able to use the Dolby Atmos audio 
as the Apple TV is what makes that possible. The toughest part of the Dolby 
Atmos is finding content that supports the format. I haven’t found any as of 
right now. I’ll keep looking though.

I had the sound bar set up in a different HDMI port and for some reason I was 
still getting audio through it, but it was with a 1 second delay or so. I made 
using both the HomePods and the sound bar unbearable. I even turned off the ARC 
function on the Apple TV and just tried using the sound bar with the HomePods 
connected via Airplay like I use to with the 4th gen Apple TV, and the delay 
was still there as well.

I might have to just stop using the sound bar all together in the living room 
and stick with the HomePods, I find the audio to be better rounded and voices 
are much clearer as well.

Ed
 

> On May 25, 2021, at 9:41 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> There are instructions for how to get that audio to come through the homePod. 
> It sounds like you did that. And once done, I had the impression that all the 
> audio would go to the HomePods, and nothing to the sound bar. So I’m sort of 
> surprised you’re getting any sound from the sound bar. But apparently you 
> also have to have a TV with the ability to pass through certain formats. I’m 
> trying to figure out if my fire TV will make the grade. I want the Dolby 
> Atmos etc. What sort of TV are you using?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 25, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I have also noticed some weird behaviors with the HomePods…
>> 1. If you have a sound bar connected directly to the Apple TV or your TV set 
>> and your HomePods connected with Airplay to the Apple TV there is a 
>> noticeable lag with the audio from the sound bar. I am beating my head over 
>> the desk trying to figure out how to fix the lag in the audio. Currently I 
>> have only my HomePods connected with Airplay and I am also using the ARC 
>> channel so that my TV, Playstation 5 and my wife's Nintendo Switch come 
>> through the HomePod speakers. I am actually pleased with the sound quality 
>> and I might not even reconnect the sound bar.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for telling us about this new remote,
>>> 
>>> I'm waiting on mine to arrive,
>>> 
>>> Hopefully tomorrow!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ed 
>>> Worrell
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2021 10:21 am
>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote
>>> 
>>> Hello Mary,
>>> 
>>> The new Apple TV remote is a large improvement from the previous model. I 
>>> would compare it to the 3rd generation Apple TV, with some of the features 
>>> of the Apple TV HD and up.
>>> 
>>> 1. It has physical buttons arranged in a circle at the top of the remote 
>>> and these are used for navigation, think of it like a directional pad with 
>>> the up, down, left and right buttons with a select button in the middle. 
>>> Just above that to the top right is the power button, this is a nice 
>>> addition in my eyes. Below the directional pad is the back button on the 
>>> left and the home button on the right. Under the back button is the 
>>> play/pause button and directly under that is the new mute button. Under the 
>>> Home button on the right is the volume up and down rocker button.
>>> 2. One thing to remember is the circle directional pad is also touch 
>>> sensitive and you can perform the same gestures as on the touch capable 
>>> Siri remote from the prior models. Luckily these gestures can be turned off 
>>> as they can make navigation difficult with Voiceover.
>>> 
>>> All in all the new Siri remote is a welcome upgrade and worth it in my 
>>> opinion. One more note is that it is backwards compatible with the older 
>>> models of the Apple TV, going all the way back to the Apple TV HD/4th 
>>> generation.
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Ed Worrell
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On May 24, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wasn’t sure where to post this, since it’s really a question about this 
>>>> new Siri remote that comes with the new Apple TV 4K. I ordered one of 
>>>> t

Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote

[Ed Worrell]

Mary,

I have also noticed some weird behaviors with the HomePods…
1. If you have a sound bar connected directly to the Apple TV or your TV set 
and your HomePods connected with Airplay to the Apple TV there is a noticeable 
lag with the audio from the sound bar. I am beating my head over the desk 
trying to figure out how to fix the lag in the audio. Currently I have only my 
HomePods connected with Airplay and I am also using the ARC channel so that my 
TV, Playstation 5 and my wife's Nintendo Switch come through the HomePod 
speakers. I am actually pleased with the sound quality and I might not even 
reconnect the sound bar.

Ed
  

> On May 24, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for telling us about this new remote,
> 
> I'm waiting on mine to arrive,
> 
> Hopefully tomorrow!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2021 10:21 am
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> The new Apple TV remote is a large improvement from the previous model. I 
> would compare it to the 3rd generation Apple TV, with some of the features of 
> the Apple TV HD and up.
> 
> 1. It has physical buttons arranged in a circle at the top of the remote and 
> these are used for navigation, think of it like a directional pad with the 
> up, down, left and right buttons with a select button in the middle. Just 
> above that to the top right is the power button, this is a nice addition in 
> my eyes. Below the directional pad is the back button on the left and the 
> home button on the right. Under the back button is the play/pause button and 
> directly under that is the new mute button. Under the Home button on the 
> right is the volume up and down rocker button.
> 2. One thing to remember is the circle directional pad is also touch 
> sensitive and you can perform the same gestures as on the touch capable Siri 
> remote from the prior models. Luckily these gestures can be turned off as 
> they can make navigation difficult with Voiceover.
> 
> All in all the new Siri remote is a welcome upgrade and worth it in my 
> opinion. One more note is that it is backwards compatible with the older 
> models of the Apple TV, going all the way back to the Apple TV HD/4th 
> generation.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
>> On May 24, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I wasn’t sure where to post this, since it’s really a question about this 
>> new Siri remote that comes with the new Apple TV 4K. I ordered one of those, 
>> because I understand that I should be able to use my HomePods stereo pair 
>> for all sorts of TV output with the new Apple TV plus a properly equipped 
>> television with a RC or EARC. I wonder if anybody has this new remote and if 
>> there’s anything particularly noteworthy about using it with voiceover. I 
>> know the remote controls have changed, and I’ve seen some descriptions that 
>> are of course related to how cited folks would use it. I’ve googled, and I 
>> haven’t seen anything about voiceover in conjunction with the new remote. 
>> Not even on Apple support pages. Hence my question.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Update on turning touchpad off and on on the fly

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Nice find, there is one issue I have run into with the quick fix…
After following the steps outlined in your email, here’s what I’ve found.

With the option turned on with a laptop the right side of the keyboard is made 
useless as it is trying to use this side for the mouse buttons. I have to turn 
off the feature to type anything in a text field. Any idea how to get around 
this issue?

Ed Worrell


> On May 25, 2021, at 7:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> apologies if someone has already posted this.
> 
> A lister previously advised to use a connected mouse to turn off the touchpad 
> so I woldn’t accidentally use the pad to change focus. I’ve now found a way 
> to do this on the fly without the need for a mouse or external touchpad. I 
> can now turn the pad back on when I have finished so my sighted friends can 
> use it as intended.
> 
> Do the following:
> Go to Apple preferences in Big Sur
> click on Accessibility
> Click on pointers in the table of options
> Click on other pointer tab
> Put a tick in the enable mouse keys box
> Go into the mouse options pop up and tick turn off touchpad when mouse keys 
> enabled
> Click OK
> 
> Now you can toggle the touchpad on and off with 5 quick presses of the option 
> key on the keyboard
> 
> Cheers
> Ian
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Re: Voiceover and the new Siri remote

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Mary,

The new Apple TV remote is a large improvement from the previous model. I would 
compare it to the 3rd generation Apple TV, with some of the features of the 
Apple TV HD and up.

1. It has physical buttons arranged in a circle at the top of the remote and 
these are used for navigation, think of it like a directional pad with the up, 
down, left and right buttons with a select button in the middle. Just above 
that to the top right is the power button, this is a nice addition in my eyes. 
Below the directional pad is the back button on the left and the home button on 
the right. Under the back button is the play/pause button and directly under 
that is the new mute button. Under the Home button on the right is the volume 
up and down rocker button.
2. One thing to remember is the circle directional pad is also touch sensitive 
and you can perform the same gestures as on the touch capable Siri remote from 
the prior models. Luckily these gestures can be turned off as they can make 
navigation difficult with Voiceover.

All in all the new Siri remote is a welcome upgrade and worth it in my opinion. 
One more note is that it is backwards compatible with the older models of the 
Apple TV, going all the way back to the Apple TV HD/4th generation.

I hope this helps,

Ed Worrell


> On May 24, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I wasn’t sure where to post this, since it’s really a question about this new 
> Siri remote that comes with the new Apple TV 4K. I ordered one of those, 
> because I understand that I should be able to use my HomePods stereo pair for 
> all sorts of TV output with the new Apple TV plus a properly equipped 
> television with a RC or EARC. I wonder if anybody has this new remote and if 
> there’s anything particularly noteworthy about using it with voiceover. I 
> know the remote controls have changed, and I’ve seen some descriptions that 
> are of course related to how cited folks would use it. I’ve googled, and I 
> haven’t seen anything about voiceover in conjunction with the new remote. Not 
> even on Apple support pages. Hence my question.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[Ed Worrell]

I don’t see the harm in them/companies creating different options for travel. 
The robot assistant still feels a ways off for me. I commend them for looking 
outside the box.

I personally think that a robot dog, or robot helping me walk down the road is 
probably the future, but it still won’t replace the companionship of the guide 
dog. The will never be able to replace that aspect no matter how hard they try.

Ed
 

> On May 24, 2021, at 5:12 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> I agree.  Also, what about getting you around construction or stopping you at 
> curbs or steps?
> Secondary navigation aids are a great idea and I for one would love to test 
> some out but I’ll stick with my fury friend as well.  
> I did try a robot guide in a study a while back and it was definitely  
> interesting but I still feel safer with my dog or Cain.
> Johna
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
> AA MAY
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 2:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
> - The Washington Post
>  
> I think that such equipment could be useful as a secondary mobility aid, but 
> really don’t see it replacing a cane or a dog. It isn’t enough to know that a 
> person is approaching you, you need to know which way to go to avoid that 
> person or obstacle. It would require tremendous concentration when navigating 
> a busy shop or trying to find your way back to the exit.
> Think I’ll stick with my dog, but I can see that one day there will be useful 
> secondary mobility aids.
> Alison
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> CrazyEyez
> Sent: 23 May 2021 22:50
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
> - The Washington Post
>  
> honestly this is stupid.
> Another money grab.
> You'll never ever replace the cane.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Thought this might be interesting to read.
>  
>  
> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/
> 
> Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired
> Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace canes 
> and guide dogs
> 
> Dalvin Brown
> March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT
>  
> Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered backpack to 
> help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel) 
> Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories is a 
> backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s designed 
> to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly hazardous 
> situations like crosswalks or strangers.
> The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could 
> face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. Still, 
> the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as progress in 
> AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision issues better 
> perceive their environments and, therefore, live more independently.
> The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, who 
> took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a system that 
> seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.
> Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to Jagadish K. 
> Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who also 
> specializes in computer vision for robots.
> What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy.
> “I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing problems to 
> me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, I’ve been 
> teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot see 
> things and need help,” Mahendran said.
> There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It looks like 
> an ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a laptop, inside. A 
> match-box-sized GPS unit is affixed to the outside.
> In a demonstration video, the user also wears a vest with tiny holes to 
> conceal an embedded AI camera. When connected to the computer, the 4K camera 
> captures depth and color information used to help people avoid things like 
> hanging branches. The camera can also be embedded in a fanny pack or other 
> waist-worn pouches.
> The spatial camera, built by the computer vision company Luxonis, can read 
> signs, detect crosswalks and see coming changes in elevation.
>  
> Bluetooth earphones allow the user to communicate with the system and vice 
> versa. So the wearer can ask out loud for location information, and the 
> system will tell them where they are. If the camera spots a threat like an 
> incoming pedestrian, it can tell the wearer.
> It’s too soon to know how much such a device would cost consumers, but 
> several 

Re: Silencing Watch Clicks

[Ed Worrell]

I found the work around for turning off VO’s clicks on the watch…
1. Navigate to the settings app.
2. Scroll down to alert volume.
3. Turn the volume all the way down to 0.
Now your VO clicks are muted.

I have found that the sounds will turn on at a very low volume at random though.

HTH

Ed Worrell


> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps a call to Apple Accessibility? 877-204-3930 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Paula Pinder  wrote:
>> 
>> The clicks are still there.
>>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 23:45, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What happens if you set the watch to silent 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Paula Pinder
>>> Sent: Friday, 18 December 2020 12:17 pm
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Silencing Watch Clicks
>>> 
>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven’t found a way but I hope there is.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Paula
>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Dec 2020, at 23:14, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Is it possible to silence the clicks when I swipe on my Series 6 watch?
>>>> 
>>>> Dulce
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image recognition 
is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where Envision Ai 
beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use this to identify 
codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor used for  pairing to 
the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision Ai picks it up and reads 
it to me on the first try every time. I also have the Envision glasses… They 
are great assuming you have an active internet connection. They are comfortable 
and easy to pair to the phone for updates and set up. I won’t get into the 
glasses to much as that’s off topic.

Ed Worrell
   

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
> Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
> what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing 
> that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all 
> that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>  
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since 
> I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about 
> it. 
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent 
>> years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than 
>> seeing ai?  How?
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Re: Showtime plus CBS all axis on the Apple TV app

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Mary,

Yes, I am using CBS All Access and Showtime through the Apple TV app. It works 
beautifully with VO. The section you are talking about is in fact to get both 
services for $9.99 a month.

Hth

Ed


> On Dec 14, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Has anybody signed up for this combination? I can find something which is not 
> well labeled of course, which looks like it leads to a subscription to both 
> channels. It’s in some kind of brick row, and there are five items, all of 
> which seem to say the same thing except the numbers are different, one 
> through five. This is under a title that says exclusively for Apple TV+ 
> subscribers. Double tapping on any of these leads you to a screen which will 
> show items from both CBS and Showtime. CBS is first. Then if you flick down 
> with the rotor set to hitting, you will find showtime. If you double tap on 
> the try it free button, you get a screen which only mentions CBS all axis and 
> not Showtime. Hence my confusion. It looks on that screen like you were 
> signing up for just the one channel, since there’s no mention of the other 
> one. Has anybody done this?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

This is an interesting thread.

You can use iCloud to lock your phone and track it with the Find My App from 
any device. You can simply log-in to https://icloud.com and lock the device 
remotely and see it’s last location and  when it was either connected to Wifi 
or Cellular.

Ed


> On Jun 30, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Why not, Siri, launch MFI Hearing or something like that? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Arlene
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?
> 
> Kenny, It would be good to say something to Siri that would be silly that 
> wouldn't mean anything to anyone, especially that person that just grabbed 
> your iPhone, such as some stupid phraise like "siri, grab my loaf of bread.". 
> This could be the shortcut to start working, if it could be possible. Keep up 
> the brainstorming. in a situation as this it would be good to have something 
> inplace.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kenny" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?
> 
> 
> Yes, I do understand that screaming a specific phrase to trigger Siri 
> Shortcuts would be problematic, especially when the perp is running away from 
> you.
> 
> 
> Guess I'm brainstorming some ideas to rely on Siri to protect me, and my 
> iPhone when traveling alone.
> 
> 
> These iOS Workflow shortcuts are really powerful. Using the ReddIt link 
> shared on this thread I'm learning more and more about them. Hope to come up 
> with something on my own I can share with the community.
> 
> 
> On 6/29/2020 10:24 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi Kenny,
>> 
>>  I’m not going to say your crazy,
>> Because you're probably thinking of something others are also thinking of.
>> 
>>  How to do it would be the crazy thing!
>> 
>>  I'm personally thinking what you are looking to do must be possible 
>> but I'm not sure you could do it with a Hey siri shortcut request if 
>> the jerkoff that just grabbed your phone is doing a runner.
>> 
>>  And thinking that if I grabbed a mobile device and started running, 
>> I'd have it in one hand and that would be by my side as my arms pumped 
>> as runners do!
>> 
>> You would have road noise possibly to take in to consideration, Other 
>> background noises The runner might have put your phone in to their 
>> pocket to free hands or make themselves look les like a running 
>> scumbag!
>> 
>> And of course your idea of the photo of the face depends on if the 
>> phone is being looked at, which they would do I'm sure once they were 
>> away from anyone following them!
>> 
>> 
>> However if you have an apple watch especially one of the LTE models, 
>> Could you not do some of this stuff from find my iphone via the watch?
>> Find my iPhone I've used to locate my watch from my phone so somewhat 
>> around the opposite way to what you are looking for,
>> 
>>  But you could trigger an alarm,
>>  Lock the phone or wipe it if needed,
>>  I'm not sure about photos but there must be something that could 
>> give you that ability, Infact I think there is built in to the watch 
>> but it's from the phones camera so you can hold the phone up with the 
>> camera looking at something and view it on the watch screen!
>> 
>> 
>> The other thing is if you use a caine you could throw it at the scumbag 
>> like a javlyn / speer,
>> Or if it's a broken down in to sections folding cain, throw it at their 
>> legs as they run so it might trip them and then you could kick the shit 
>> out of them while they lye there trying to free themselves,
>> 
>>  Or if you use a dog, teach it to chase the bad guy like a police dog!
>> That one I'd like to see happen!
>> 
>> Sorry most of this isn't going to do what you are looking for but just 
>> some ideas looking from a somewhat different angle
>> 
>> Good luck and I hope you can figure something out
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kenny
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:09 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using iOS Shortcuts to Deputize Siri?
>> 
>> I'm not sure if this is possible, but I wanted to pose the question to the 
>> list to find out.
>> 
>> 
>> I own an iPhone 8 running iOS 13.5.1.
>> 
>> 
>> Here's the scenario. You're using your iPhone while waiting outside for
>> an Uber pickup, then a thief snatches it out of your hand. They take off
>> running. You have only a few seconds to react, but normally you start
>> screaming "STOP THIEF" or something too that affect immediately.
>> 
>> 
>> How about you could simply say the phrase "Hey Siri: STOP THIEF"
>> 
>> 
>> Then Siri would do the following on your iPhone:
>> 
>> 1. Activate the front camera and take a picture.
>> 
>> 2. Activate the back camera and take a picture.
>> 
>> 3. Upload a copy of those photos to 

Re: iPhone continuously crashing after update. Please help!

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

The other thing you can try is doing a system reset. This will reset all 
settings but you will not lose your data. You might have to reset all of your 
VoiceOver settings, wifi and posibly Touch ID or FaceID depending on what 
iPhone you’re using.

Navigate to settings, down to General, open reset near the bottom of the screen 
and then double tap on reset all settings. It will ask you to type in your 
passcode and it will ask you if you are sure. Simply follow the prompts.

I hope this helps,

Ed
 

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you closed all the apps out of the app switcher?
> Do you have another phone on which to call Apple Accessibility?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>> On Jun 19, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Kellie  wrote:
>> 
>> hey everyone, I was hoping someone here could offer suggestions on what I 
>> can do before I throw my phone across the room. When I was told that I 
>> received a software update I chose yesterday that I would have it installed 
>> between the hours of 1 AM and 5 AM. Usually, every time it wants to install 
>> it I’m in the middle of doing something so I have to keep putting it off.
>> Well I assume it installed overnight however, ever since I got up this 
>> morning, it crashes constantly! And I don’t mean when I have a specific app 
>> or anything. Sometimes, my phone is locked and it crashes and I know it does 
>> because it’s a screen curtain on and I have to type in my password to 
>> unlock. I’m not exaggerating when I say it’s been doing it 40 or 50 times 
>> today alone. We’ll see how long I can even dictate this message before it 
>> crashes on me. End it already crashed once during this message. I’m at a 
>> loss as to what to do. I looked online and saw a suggestion where are you 
>> can do I guess it’s called like a soft reset. They said if you have the 
>> iPhone 8+, which I do, you tap the app volume button then the down volume 
>> button then you hold in the power button until you see the apple symbol. 
>> Well, can’t see the apple symbol but I know that I did restart it but it did 
>> not fix it. Does anyone know how I can undo the update that I installed last 
>> night? I’m thinking maybe it was corrupted somehow. If not that does anyone 
>> have any suggestions of what else I can try? I will do a complete reset if I 
>> have to but I’m definitely trying to avoid that if I can. it is totally 
>> possible that it is not related to the update only because my phone has 
>> dropped a few times and he’s a little quirky in other instances but I 
>> suspect it has something to do with the update since it worked fine until 
>> this morning.
>> Anyone have any suggestions on what I could do I greatly appreciate it and 
>> you would save my sanity.
>> 
>> 
>> Kellie and loki  
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Needed, an app to tell you quickly how fast you are walking

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

You can use the Run keeper app and start a walking workout. This will give you 
the average walking speed when the workout is completed. The other option is to 
track a workout with the activities app by Apple on the iPhone and doing the 
simple math to convert the seconds per mile to miles per hour.

Ed


> On May 27, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
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> Hi Listers,
> 
>   I need to know if there is an app that tracks your walking speed and 
> can tell you how fast you are walking and adjust as you speed up and slow 
> down.  It needs to work more quickly than say  Blind square.  
> 
> I’m told an app called motion X did this but is no longer available. 
> 
> Tips and ideas are greatly appreciated.
> 
> Eric Caron 
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Re: Accessible app to record a phone interview?

[Ed Worrell]

The closest thing to recording a phone call is by using Skype. When you start 
the call there will be a more info button in the top right hand corner and the 
record option will be in there.

I hope this helps.

Ed


> On May 17, 2020, at 4:29 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Richard,
>  
> You can only record zoom meetings if the host of the meeting allows it to be 
> recorded.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2020 3:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible app to record a phone interview?
>  
> There are no apps that really allow for recording a phone call. There appear 
> to be some third party services that do this.
> Zoom, on the other hand, can be used to record meetings.
>  
> 
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
> just stops you from enjoying the good."
>  
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
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> 
> 
> On May 16, 2020, at 8:43 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
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> Hello, I've not had need to record a phone interview before, but always 
> thought it might come up. Has anyone used an accessible app that you'd 
> recommend? So far, I'm trying to cable the phone to a mixer with a microphone 
> for me, but that's complicating the problem. Does the app you'd recommend let 
> you save to standard file formats, since I'll be editing the interview later?
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Re: Spectrum TV app - Apple TV

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Peter,

Currently there is no way to sort numerically. I have been asking for this for 
the last 6 months with Spectrum tech support. To change the way channels are 
sorted: navigate to the left and  when VoiceOver reads the station channel and 
call letters click and hold on the SIRI remote track pad. This will pop-up 
options to sort the channels.

I hope this helps.

Ed

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 8:11 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
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> Yeah that is what I thought ..
>  
> I’m working with a guy about a couple of issues with AD on one of my local 
> channels, so I will mention it to him.  I already have suggested a couple of 
> other fixes in the phone/pad app.  Irritates me that from a DVR recording you 
> can’t turn on SAP…but you can CC.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
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>  
> I haven’t figured it out yet either. I tried for several hours to do so and 
> there doesn’t seem to be a way.
>  
>  
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>  
> On the Spectrum TV app for Apple TV, does anyone know how to sort channels 
> Numerically?  When you open the guide, voice over tells you to double click 
> .. it will let you change the categories .. ie.  Favorites, locals, etc. but 
> for the life of me I can’t get it to sort other than alphabetically …  any 
> one figured this out?
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Re: Twitterrific - how to select and copy text?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

You also can simply use the share option in the VO rotor when on the tweet you 
would like to copy. This will open the default iOS share sheet and Twitterrific 
adds an copy option in the lower half of the share sheet in actions.

Ed

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 7:26 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
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> Chris, that is brilliant! It worked very well.
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 16 Apr 2020, at 13:56, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You can use the label editor to do this.  When on the tweet you want to 
>> select, do a 2 finger double tap and hold.  A pop up screen will appear with 
>> the tweet in an edit field.  You can then use the text selection and the 
>> edit controls in the rotor to select and do what you wish with the text.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 4:13 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
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>>> I’m struggling to find out how to copy text from a tweet using VoiceOver 
>>> in twitterrific on iPad Pro or iPhone XS using iOS 13.4.1. Is this 
>>> possible? None of the usual twiddling of the rotor does any good!
>>> Thames
>>> Harry
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Re: Is Dark sky weather app accessible with VO

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

Dark Sky is beautifully accessible with Voiceover. It’s my go to weather app as 
the notifications are the most accurate I’ve seen on any app for the north west 
United States.

Ed

> On Apr 3, 2020, at 7:45 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Well, I’d like to know what the weather’s going to be like during the day 
> before I get dressed, and my wife is dead set against me stepping outside in 
> the buff to see what the temperature is.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
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>  
> I’m in a city where you can have 4 seasons in one day.
>  
> Just like the crouded house song,
> Which was about either Melbourne Australia or Dunedin in nz.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Keith 
> Bierman
> Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 9:44 AM
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>  
>  
>  
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:25 PM Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> I just open the door or window and walk outside,
>> 
> *smile*
>  
> Dark Sky is very good at short term, "hyperlocal" forecasts. So when I want 
> to know should I take that hour long walk/ride now or in 2 hours  it's 
> incredibly useful ... especially in places where the weather changes 
> dramatically every few hours ;>
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Re: app specific programming of voiceover behaviour

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Anthony,

I don’t believe so.

I have not figured out how to if it’s at all possible.

Ed


> On Mar 6, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
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> Hey Ed;
> Can I do this with caller ID?
> Thanks
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 11!! Pro!
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Yes, this can be done by going into the phone settings application and then 
>> down to accessibility, into VoiceOver and then to the activities option. You 
>> can now follow the prompts and set up voice specific settings for different 
>> functions such as reading a book in the Kindle app.
>> 
>> I hope this helps,
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello friends,
>>> 
>>> I thought I read somewhere that we can now set app specific behaviour
>>> such as voice, reading speed of voiceover.  Is that true and if yes
>>> then how can we do this?   Could someone enlighten me as I need to
>>> programme for Kindle reading.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Ketan
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Re: app specific programming of voiceover behaviour

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Yes, this can be done by going into the phone settings application and then 
down to accessibility, into VoiceOver and then to the activities option. You 
can now follow the prompts and set up voice specific settings for different 
functions such as reading a book in the Kindle app.

I hope this helps,

Ed

> On Mar 6, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends,
> 
> I thought I read somewhere that we can now set app specific behaviour
> such as voice, reading speed of voiceover.  Is that true and if yes
> then how can we do this?   Could someone enlighten me as I need to
> programme for Kindle reading.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Ketan
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Re: AirPods Pro Volume Issue

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Hey Brandon,

I have noticed the behavior when noise canceling is turned on. I have found 
that if you use the transparency mode while talking on the phone it’s a cleaner 
call for everyone involved.

I hope this helps,

Ed


> On Mar 6, 2020, at 7:03 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
> So every so often, people say that they have a really hard time hearing me 
> when I am using my AirPods Pro on the phone, to the point where I have to 
> repeat myself several times or speak very loudly in order to be heard.
> 
> Any idea why this might be or how I can fix it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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Re: iOS 13.3.1 and Dictation in the App Store Broken?

[Ed Worrell]

In the latest iOS 13.4 beta this issue is fixed.

Ed

> On Feb 29, 2020, at 4:59 PM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
> 
> I can confirm it
> This problem exist since version 13
> Dictation is not working in App Store if you want to dictate review
> I don’t know if someone reported it but it should be reported 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Feb 2020, at 6:48 am, Robin Frost  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I apologize in advance it feels like I've posted more in the past month to 
>> this list than I have in the entire preceding year. However, I just keep 
>> running into things that seem to be broken. Today it's found in the app 
>> store. 
>> 
>> If I am in the app store on the screen for an app I own and I click on "see 
>> all reviews" button and then "write a review" button I can easily select my 
>> stars and I can even enter my title text using dictation if I wish.  
>> However, once in the text field for the body of the review itself if I 
>> invoke dictation either by the two finger double tap or the dictate button 
>> on screen it matters not dictation only lets me speak two words at most 
>> before it cuts itself off. It is positively maddening I tell you; 
>> and I can absolutely reproduce it at will both on an iPhone 11 ProMax and an 
>> iPad Pro running the latest software. Even after rebooting and closing out 
>> of the app store and entering it again as I said I can absolutely reproduce 
>> the issue at will. Dictation seems to work fine elsewhere such as in the 
>> search field and even in the title of a review entry screen just not in the 
>> main body of the review text. If anyone can replicate this please join me in 
>> reporting this to Apple Accessibility.
>> 
>> I'm by no means a glass half empty or the sky is falling kind of girl and 
>> Apple certainly doesn't have the market cornered on persistent bugs but it 
>> is slightly disheartening to keep running into things that aren't working 
>> 1/3rd of the way through the yearly cycle for iOS. Here's hoping that 
>> patient and polite reporting of such issues will result in their being fixed 
>> so the "it just works" slogan can continue to ring true.
>> 
>> Take good care,
>> 
>> Robin
>> 
>> 
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Re: HomePod Question

[Ed Worrell]

The other setting that you might have to check and make sure is on is location 
for both your HomePod and iPhone. If I turn off these settings the hand off 
feature works only about half of the time.

Ed


> On Mar 2, 2020, at 1:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> There's a very nice speaker called The Tribit Stormbox speaker that is
> also very good.  I like my google home if it would stay connected to
> my iPhone viabluetooth also sounds very good.
> 
> On 3/2/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> I've never heard the home pod as we can't get them here in new Zealand.
>> 
>> I do however have a few sonos play 1 devices although they aren't
>> Bluetooth.
>> 
>> But what I have heard playing audio is the sonos move and it sounded pretty
>> bloody good to me.
>> 
>> And they are similar in how they work to the home pod I believe.
>> 
>> The other speakers I personally like are the UE boom for which they have
>> just added a new device called the hyper boom,
>> 
>> Might be worth a look
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2020 9:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: HomePod Question
>> 
>> Hi Arnold.  What I'd do, is invest in a good bluetooth speaker.  I've got
>> some very nice bluetooth speakers, and I can listen to bookshare books by
>> using voice dream reader and the ebooks sound just fine.  I'd never purchase
>> a home pod, they sound kind of junky to me.  I like my bose revolve plus
>> speaker.
>> 
>> On 3/1/20, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Thanks to your last message, I will have to investigate whether this
>>> iPhone
>>> 6 is just too old to work with them. Also, I found the following link
>>> as to how to reset your home pods. It would be worth a try, that is
>>> just too much money to have invested in something that doesn't work
>>> right. If this really long link doesn't work, google "how to reset
>>> homepod" and it will find it.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six
>>> https://9to5mac-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/9to5mac.com/2018/02/10/how-
>>> to-factory-reset-your-homepod/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1=mq331AQCKAE%3D#or
>>> igin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com=1=prer
>>> ender=32=0=0=1=158304677141
>>> 04=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2F9to5mac.com%2F20
>>> 18%2F02%2F10%2Fhow-to-factory-reset-your-homepod%2Famp%2F=1
>>> orage=1=1=navigateTo%2Ccid%2CfullReplaceHistory%2Cfragment%2Cr
>>> eplaceUrl
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robert, I actually have two phones, one of which doesn’t have a Sim
>>> card.
>>> That one, a 7+, has never done handoff. My 10 R is the one where it
>>> occasionally works. I would think the 10 R shouldn’t have any issues.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 My HomePods are in a stereo pair also.
 
 Witch iPhone are you using? I am using the 11 pro. If you have an
 older phone, I am wondering if the handoff feature works better with
 the new hardware? If you have a new phone then never mind.
 
 Robert Carter
 
 
 
> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robert,
> What you did with your book share book is exactly what I have done
> when I have tried the handoff feature. It’s just that most of the
> time, it doesn’t work for me. That’s my problem. And I don’t think
> there has ever been a time when it has worked with a voice over
> voice. I actually have a stereo pair. I don’t know why that should
> make a difference. I’ve tried both parts of my stereo pair, and both
> work intermittently as described.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Feb 29, 2020, at 6:13 AM, Robert Carter 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary and list,
>> 
>> To make sure that I wasn’t giving bad information, I just started a
>> BookShare book reading on my iPhone. I was using the James voice. I
>> then held my phone near the HomePod. The phone gave a little haptic
>> click and said transferring to HomePod. The James voice immediately
>> began to read the book through the HomePod.
>> 
>> I then held the phone near the HomePod again and got the haptic
>> vibration and the phone said transferring to iPhone. The James
>> voice again came through the iPhone.
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> I have had very spotty luck with handoff. I have never gotten
>>> anything to transfer from one of my phones, even though it’s on
>>> the same Wi-Fi network as my HomePod. And some of the time, the
>>> other one doesn’t work right either. And I have never had anything
>>> that was being read, such as a Kindle book by voiceover or a voice
>>> dream book by voiceover 

Re: Audio description on CBS all access using iPhone or Apple TV

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

On the Apple TB: After you have started the video swipe down on the track pad 
part of the remote assuming you are using a 4th Gen. or higher A-Tv. Swipe left 
to the audio tab, then swipe down, you will have an option with AD after it. 
Example: English AD. This is your audio description track.

On the iPhone or iPad: After the video is playing double tap with one finger to 
bring up the play controls, find the media selection option and the AD track 
should be in this menu. I am not seeing this on the show though. I am 
subscribing to CBS All Access through the Apple TV Channels option in the A-Tv 
app. This might be the difference. It might be there in the All Access stand 
alone app.

You can also turn on the Audio Description option in iOS or TV OS In the OS 
settings app.

I hope this helps a little bit.

 .

> On Feb 22, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had success finding how to access audio description in the CBS all 
> axis app on either your iPhone or your Apple TV? I am interested in the new 
> Star Trek Picard series, and I understand it’s supposedly has audio 
> description. A friend of mine, who watches this series with sided friends, 
> says that those folks tried to access audible description, but were not 
> successful. I don’t know exactly what they did, hence my question. How do you 
> get audio description on CBS all axis with an iPhone or an Apple TV?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Airpods Pro in noise cancelling might be covering up my voice. A thing?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Pete,

Yeah, I am seeing the same behavior here as well. I think your assessment of 
the microphones processing your voice out a bit might be correct.

Ed W.

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> As soon as I put them on transparency mode, caller heard me way better!  My 
> theory would be the mics are attenuated in noise canceling mode. What say 
> y’all?
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Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I have used both the Dexcom G5/G6 and the Libre Link sensors. I liked certain 
features of both devices.

First the Dexcom system: The Dexcom system is the best sensor or CGM on the 
market here in the US. That is  a plus and a minus as it works the best and has 
the best application on iOS and Android, the down fall is it’s a very expensive 
system and some insurance companies will not cover it. I at times with the 
Dexcom get a overloaded with the notifications it spits at you all day long. I 
know they are there to help but sometimes the notifications are  a bit much. 
This is where the Libre system is a little nicer. The Dexcom application is 
fully accessible and easy to navigate and use. The only down fall is that the 
blood sugar graph is not accessible to Voiceover users. You can however 
download the Dexcom Clarity application to accessibly view your blood sugar 
trends and also see your insulin intake averages assuming you enter them using 
either the InPen insulin system or use the events section of the Dexcom 
application. You can even set your DR up with a option to view all of your data 
from your records.

Libre system: This system is great because of the affordability. It’s much 
cheaper then the Dexcom with a few trade offs. It will not send you 
notifications to alert you of high or low blood sugars, rapidly raising or 
dropping blood sugars, etc. You will have to scan the sensor with an iPhone 
that is at least an iPhone 7 or newer. The application is usable with VoiceOver 
but there are a lot of unlabeled buttons and mislabeled buttons. To get 
VoiceOver to announce the trend arrow (direction blood sugar is going, slowly 
falling, slowly raising, falling quickly, raising quickly, etc you will have to 
turn on the TTS function in settings of the app).As stated in a previous email 
in the thread you can get a transmitter that will allow you to utilize a 3rd 
party application that will scan the sensor every 5 minutes and send it to your 
phone. There are 2 different options and they are both limited in accuracy and 
you will have to calibrate the system multiple times through out the day.

Ultimately the choice is up to you and what your comfort level is with pricing 
and what your Dr recommends.

They both can be used by visually impaired diabetics and will work in the long 
run.

Ed W.  

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 6:27 AM, Joney  wrote:
> 
> Are use the Librelink and I have no problems with it at all. Dicks come does 
> have an extra transmitter, but everything is built in to the sensor on the 
> other. I do miss the ability to sync the numbers, as sometimes it can be many 
> points off. I tested, when I first put it in. After the hour layover. When 
> it’s ready, I get its number, and a blood test number. And I can pretty will 
> tell where it’s going to be the whole 14 days I have it. I don’t like having 
> to have the extra transmitter For the next game. Sometimes tests come about 
> in the oddest places. :-) But, from what I can tell, from what my 
> diabetologist says, it’s a matter of preference. So, which ever one works on 
> your phone, or you’re comfortable with, it’s what you should use. The 
> Librelink does not have alarms within the sensor. Perhaps they will add them 
> at some point. Just my opinions
> 
> Joney
> talk2o...@gmail.com
> "If God can bring you to it, 
> He will lead you through it."  
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It’s a blue tooth transmitter that helps send the signal from the Dexcom to 
>> the phone
>> No the free style libre doesn’t have them built in but you can purchase a 
>> third party option.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2020 8:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>>  
>> I understand the disposable sensors, but what is the disposable transmitter 
>> for?  Sounds like one more piece of equipment that you have to keep track of 
>> that the Libre doesn't have.  If you could explain what this transmitter 
>> does, it would sure help.  Thanks for your in-depth answer and explanation.  
>> It cleared a lot of things up for me.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>  
>> No matter where you are, no matter how difficult things might appear to be, 
>> you are always being moved toward magnificence. Always.
>> Rhonda Byrne
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Keith Bierman
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2020 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: Freestyle Libre or Dexcom?
>>  
>> Dexcom doesn't use NFC; so I don't know why it wouldn't work with iphone's 
>> pre-7.
>>  
>> Operational cost of the dexcom is higher, there's the disposable 
>> sensors(similar to libre) + a transmitter (which is also disposable, but is 
>> good for 3 months if memory serves). I much preferred the Dexcom, but as I'm 
>> paying out of pocket I switched to the Libre (and was grey market 

Re: Do Not Update Fantastical

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

I am not seeing any accessibility related issues with the new Fantastical 
update. The features you had in Fantastical 2 are still there and you can still 
access them. Turn off the weather feature if you don’t want it in your calendar 
feed/events. I actually find that useful. 

Maybe try exploring the apps new settings and set the hide days without events 
to off )I probably butchered this setting name), this will restore each day 
being shown.

The app works great and it will still be my calendar of choice.

Ed Worrell


> On Jan 29, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, it used to be that if you found a day on that month view, you could 
> double tap and hold, and bring up a new event for that date.
> While you can still do that, you cannot be sure that the click with no 
> information is the right date.
> So, to me, there is a loss of accessibility.
> Not to mention that I sure as hell don't need the weather in my calendar. I 
> have apps for that.
> If I wanted a calendar that only showed me days with events I would use the 
> native calendar in the list view.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>>  I updated to Fantastical 3 earlier before reading this thread. I was 
>> concerned after seeing some of the messages, but I then took a closer look 
>> at the new design. Fantastical 3, from what I can tell, is just as 
>> accessible with VoiceOver as Fantastical 2. Regarding the days where a click 
>> is heard and nothing is spoken, I looked on my calendar and found several of 
>> those days. I discovered that where you hear only the click, those days 
>> don't have any events or reminders scheduled. I have lots of classes 
>> scheduled, days where I pay bills, holidays, meeting, reminders, and various 
>> other things scheduled and noted on my calendar. The only empty days are 
>> usually on the weekends. So if you don't have many appointments set, you 
>> will probably hear a lot of clicks. Other than that, the top half of the 
>> screen is the month view, and the bottom half is the list of events and 
>> reminders, along with the new addition of the day's weather, if available. I 
>> can't find anything yet in my explorations which is not accessible or a 
>> regression from the last accessible version.
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne Merritt
>> Sent from my iPhone XR
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  If you updated and regret it, or even if you haven't and trust what I'm 
>>> saying, please write to h...@flexibits.com
>>> and express your disappointment that accessibility has been broken.
>>> It used to be that in the month view, you could explore the screen and find 
>>> everyday of the month.
>>> Now, maybe 3 days out of a week speak their name and date and number of 
>>> events, but the rest just click, click, click.
>>> I'm pissed!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." 
>>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
>>> Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 29, 2020, at 3:39 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Be aware that if you update Fantastical you will be very sad, in my 
>>>> opinion.
>>>> The month view does not work nearly as well as it did prior to today's 
>>>> version 3.
>>>> And, they are offering a Premium package that will cost either $4.99 per 
>>>> month, or $39.99 per year.
>>>> You should read about all the changes before updating.
>>>> I stupidly updated, and wish I had not.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>> it." 
>>>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
>>>> Wagner
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Re: A really cool news app for local news

[Ed Worrell]

I have found that if the page has a good amount of ads on it VO will jump 
around. I’m not sure if the developer can do much about this as it’s pulling 
content from the websites. Most of the time if there is a ton of ads on the 
site the smart reader function seems to work well. I haven’t seen it fail as of 
yet.

Ed

> On Jan 9, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Not sure why mine was jumping around? Perhaps it was the lay out of the page 
> of the article I was reading. I like it because it pulls from several 
> different sources on the local side of things. And you see stories you 
> typically don't see on the tv news apps.
> 
> On 1/9/2020 9:10 AM, Ed Worrell wrote:
>> Hey Gorden,
>> 
>> I too am really liking this app. I found it a few months ago. I however am 
>> not seeing the jumping around the page issues with the standard view. I have 
>> also found the smart view isn’t always an option for every article. It is a 
>> great app and is very accessible. It even starts to learn what kind of 
>> articles you read and pulls those into the main feed of the app for you from 
>> your topics and pages that you’ve followed.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I've Ben using breaking news for years to get national news from 
>>> multiple news sources. Earlier I was on face book and saw an advertisement 
>>> for smart news. It's free and gives you local or national news for several 
>>> sources. The only thing you have to do to make it accessible is to choose 
>>> smart view each time you click on a news story to read it in it's entirety. 
>>> If you don't, voice over will jump all over the page. I find this app to be 
>>> quite useful. It even has notifications you can customize.
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Re: A really cool news app for local news

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Gorden,

I too am really liking this app. I found it a few months ago. I however am not 
seeing the jumping around the page issues with the standard view. I have also 
found the smart view isn’t always an option for every article. It is a great 
app and is very accessible. It even starts to learn what kind of articles you 
read and pulls those into the main feed of the app for you from your topics and 
pages that you’ve followed.

Ed

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> So I've Ben using breaking news for years to get national news from multiple 
> news sources. Earlier I was on face book and saw an advertisement for smart 
> news. It's free and gives you local or national news for several sources. The 
> only thing you have to do to make it accessible is to choose smart view each 
> time you click on a news story to read it in it's entirety. If you don't, 
> voice over will jump all over the page. I find this app to be quite useful. 
> It even has notifications you can customize.
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Re: Podcast audio editing apps?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Garageband is about the easiest software on the Mac to use for editing 
podcasts in my humble opinion. It’s accessible and it has plug-ins to clean up 
audio. I have created audio plug-ins to reduce background sounds for three 
different voices.

If you need any help with GB on the Mac feel free to email me off list. 
blindworr...@gmail.com



> On Jan 6, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Matt Gilman  wrote:
> 
> I have been thinking about starting a podcast. I have been doing some 
> research and I have figured out how to record the audio but I can't find any 
> accessible editing software.. I am not opposed to buying software but I would 
> really like to mess around for a while before I invest money especially since 
> I am not 100 percent sure that I want to do this. I would also prefer to edit 
> on the phone if at all possible but I also have a Mac if that is the only 
> option.
> 
> I have downloaded menu audio editing apps but none of them seem to really 
> work with voiceover. I have heard of people using garage band. I have tried 
> to use it many many times but I can't figure out how to use it. Any and all 
> suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Matt. 
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Re: Any alternative to Facebook app?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey there,

For the Friendly app all of your settings are in the top right hand corner. 
Double tap on this and it will open up a menu. You can customize what the 
newsfeed shows you, hide certain newsfeed items, etc.

Ed

> On Jan 2, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Ed, and anyone else who may find this interesting.  I downloaded the Friendly 
> APP for social networking and would like to customize it, but really don't 
> know how, exactly.  One noteworthy reality with it is that I'm seeing stuff 
> from friends on my news feed in FB that I have not seen before.  The other 
> thing I did was to take the plunge and update FB, and I'm not having the 
> crashing experience with it that others have had.  So now I seem to have a 
> choice of using FB or Friendly.  Any tips for using Friendly will be helpful.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey,
>> 
>> The app is called Friendly. There is also a paid version of the app called 
>> Friendly HD.
>> 
>> Simply search for friendly on the App Store.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ed, thanks for your last text describing an alternative for using Facebook. 
>>>  One thing was missing, or I didn't catch it.  You provided everything but 
>>> the link or name of the website.  Also, another option is using the website 
>>> for Facebook's mobile APP instead of the APP. m.facebook.com.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The only application that functions as a Facebook replacement is Friendly 
>>>> for Facebook. It basically is a website container app with a few neat 
>>>> features. You are able to hide any ads, and the annoying “you might know” 
>>>> junk that shows up in the newsfeed. It also allows you to sort your 
>>>> newsfeed by most recent. The features are great but there are some 
>>>> accessibility bugs. If you are willing to learn how the bugs can be worked 
>>>> around it’s not actually a bad app.
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I know Facebook has stopped most developers from offering apps 
>>>>> which can access all the Facebook features, it’s not quite like Twitter 
>>>>> where it seems there are a few apps which can be used.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There used to be Facely HD and it still exists, but it hasn’t been 
>>>>> updated since May 2017 which would concern me. This means no update after 
>>>>> iOS 12 last year and no update after iOS 13 a few months ago which to me 
>>>>> indicates the developer has more or less given up on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Cedric Green
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 8:33 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Any alternative to Facebook app?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Safari m.facebook.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of TaraPrakash 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 9:30 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Any alternative to Facebook app? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Happy new year to everyone. The Facebook bug is not that bothersome now 
>>>>> but it still exists. People are still reporting being thrown out of the 
>>>>> app randomly. I do remember there was some talk regarding some 
>>>>> alternative apps to Facebook native app. Can someone remind about any 
>>>>> such accessible app ? 
>>>>> With appreciations 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: Any alternative to Facebook app?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey,

The app is called Friendly. There is also a paid version of the app called 
Friendly HD.

Simply search for friendly on the App Store.

Ed

> On Jan 2, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Ed, thanks for your last text describing an alternative for using Facebook.  
> One thing was missing, or I didn't catch it.  You provided everything but the 
> link or name of the website.  Also, another option is using the website for 
> Facebook's mobile APP instead of the APP. m.facebook.com.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> The only application that functions as a Facebook replacement is Friendly 
>> for Facebook. It basically is a website container app with a few neat 
>> features. You are able to hide any ads, and the annoying “you might know” 
>> junk that shows up in the newsfeed. It also allows you to sort your newsfeed 
>> by most recent. The features are great but there are some accessibility 
>> bugs. If you are willing to learn how the bugs can be worked around it’s not 
>> actually a bad app.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As far as I know Facebook has stopped most developers from offering apps 
>>> which can access all the Facebook features, it’s not quite like Twitter 
>>> where it seems there are a few apps which can be used.
>>> 
>>> There used to be Facely HD and it still exists, but it hasn’t been updated 
>>> since May 2017 which would concern me. This means no update after iOS 12 
>>> last year and no update after iOS 13 a few months ago which to me indicates 
>>> the developer has more or less given up on it.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Cedric Green
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 8:33 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Any alternative to Facebook app?
>>> 
>>> Safari m.facebook.com
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of TaraPrakash 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 9:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Any alternative to Facebook app? 
>>> 
>>> Happy new year to everyone. The Facebook bug is not that bothersome now but 
>>> it still exists. People are still reporting being thrown out of the app 
>>> randomly. I do remember there was some talk regarding some alternative apps 
>>> to Facebook native app. Can someone remind about any such accessible app ? 
>>> With appreciations 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: Any alternative to Facebook app?

[Ed Worrell]

The only application that functions as a Facebook replacement is Friendly for 
Facebook. It basically is a website container app with a few neat features. You 
are able to hide any ads, and the annoying “you might know” junk that shows up 
in the newsfeed. It also allows you to sort your newsfeed by most recent. The 
features are great but there are some accessibility bugs. If you are willing to 
learn how the bugs can be worked around it’s not actually a bad app.

Ed
 

> On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> As far as I know Facebook has stopped most developers from offering apps 
> which can access all the Facebook features, it’s not quite like Twitter where 
> it seems there are a few apps which can be used.
>  
> There used to be Facely HD and it still exists, but it hasn’t been updated 
> since May 2017 which would concern me. This means no update after iOS 12 last 
> year and no update after iOS 13 a few months ago which to me indicates the 
> developer has more or less given up on it.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cedric 
> Green
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 8:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any alternative to Facebook app?
>  
> Safari m.facebook.com
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of TaraPrakash 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 9:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Any alternative to Facebook app? 
>  
> Happy new year to everyone. The Facebook bug is not that bothersome now but 
> it still exists. People are still reporting being thrown out of the app 
> randomly. I do remember there was some talk regarding some alternative apps 
> to Facebook native app. Can someone remind about any such accessible app ? 
> With appreciations 
> 
> 
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Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

[Ed Worrell]

It is true on my end. It seems the bug is different on different devices.


I have not had any issues in the most recent section of the tab.

Don’t go making assumptions. I was gibing a fix that works for my device.

Maybe your statement is false.

Ed

> On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks hi Ed
> 
> I am sorry to report to the group that what Ed is experiencing is not true.
> 
> I have tried exactly what he told us and yeah after one minute of a bunch of 
> scrollings I flew back to the home screen. So the problem is everywhere in 
> the newspaper.
> 
> Please I very strongly recommend all facebook users to complain and report 
> about this tramendous bug.
> Regards
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Ed Worrell
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 5:36 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb update
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I too am seeing this issue. I have found if you go to the Facebook menu tab 
> in the bottom right hand corner and read your newsfeed in the “Most Recent” 
> view the app no longer crashes, but if you try and go back to the newsfeed 
> tab in the bottom left corner the app promptly crashes back to the home 
> screen.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 3:27 PM, 'doug oliver' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve seen this issue as of today.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> O Yeah some people here sometimes spread humor and there’s nothing wrong 
>>> with sometimes a bit humor like Sieghard does!
>>> 
>>> From: Feliciano Godoy
>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb update
>>> 
>>> Sieghard ,
>>> Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Your response comes off as if you 
>>> do not make mistakes. I was not expecting a response by the way, simply 
>>> providing some feedback.
>>> 
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates:
>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
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>>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
>>> who do. -Steve Jobs
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm, now Davy becomes Debbie, maybe that why there has been no reply! 藍
>>>> I haven’t seen this one, either.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Feliciano Godoy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 12:15 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb update
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Debbie,
>>>> Are you experiencing this issue with and without Wi-Fi internet 
>>>> connection? Ssometimes, this behavior is caused by a bad Internet 
>>>> connection. Feliciano
>>>> For tech tips and updates:
>>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>>> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
>>>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
>>>> who do. -Steve Jobs
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 19, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks
>>>> 
>>>> Build number: fb 251.0 has been issued for 19 hours now.
>>>> System: iphone xr 64 GB ios12.4.1
>>>> After working with the program with voiceover on an iphone xr, after 30 
>>>> seconds or so, the program closes itselves and you are brought back to the 
>>>> home screen.
>>>> Please do test this. I’ve already restarted my phone but not yet deleted 
>>>> and reinstall the app I’ll wait for that after testings.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Davy
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Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb update

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I too am seeing this issue. I have found if you go to the Facebook menu tab in 
the bottom right hand corner and read your newsfeed in the “Most Recent” view 
the app no longer crashes, but if you try and go back to the newsfeed tab in 
the bottom left corner the app promptly crashes back to the home screen. 

I hope this helps.

Ed


> On Dec 20, 2019, at 3:27 PM, 'doug oliver' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ve seen this issue as of today. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> O Yeah some people here sometimes spread humor and there’s nothing wrong 
>> with sometimes a bit humor like Sieghard does!
>>  
>> From: Feliciano Godoy
>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb update
>>  
>> Sieghard , 
>> Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Your response comes off as if you 
>> do not make mistakes. I was not expecting a response by the way, simply 
>> providing some feedback.
>> 
>> Feliciano 
>> For tech tips and updates:
>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
>> who do. -Steve Jobs
>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Hmm, now Davy becomes Debbie, maybe that why there has been no reply! 藍
>>> I haven’t seen this one, either.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Feliciano Godoy
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 12:15 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb update
>>>  
>>> Hi Debbie, 
>>> Are you experiencing this issue with and without Wi-Fi internet connection? 
>>> Ssometimes, this behavior is caused by a bad Internet connection. Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates: 
>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>> Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
>>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
>>> who do. -Steve Jobs 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Hi folks 
>>>  
>>> Build number: fb 251.0 has been issued for 19 hours now. 
>>> System: iphone xr 64 GB ios12.4.1 
>>> After working with the program with voiceover on an iphone xr, after 30 
>>> seconds or so, the program closes itselves and you are brought back to the 
>>> home screen. 
>>> Please do test this. I’ve already restarted my phone but not yet deleted 
>>> and reinstall the app I’ll wait for that after testings.
>>> Regards
>>> Davy 
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Re: Sliding around the keyboard generates word suggesitons?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Reggie,

Navigate to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, typing and down to the bottom 
of the screen to Keyboard interaction time. Double tap on that and you should 
be able to increase or decrease the time it takes for the interaction to occur.

I hope this helps.

Ed
 

> On Dec 18, 2019, at 11:19 AM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Where do you find the setting to make it longer?i couldn’t find a setting for 
> this. Thanks. 
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
> 
> I do exactly what Ed apparently does, I set it to 1 second which isn't long 
> enough to be bothersome when I want to use it but typically long enough so 
> you don't invoke it accidently too often. It works really well, but once 
> again I agree that I find it more useful for longer words, 3 or 4 letter 
> words often I can type just as fast.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> TaraPrakash
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 9:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sliding around the keyboard generates word suggesitons?
> 
> I had to turn off slide to type option. That works. Thank you so much 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> You can toggle on/off the alternate characters in Settings, General and 
>> navigate to keyboard. There should be an option to do so in the main 
>> keyboard settings screen.
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>>>> On Dec 18, 2019, at 9:49 AM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The option of alternative character being default is very problematic. 
>>> Don’t know how to disable it. Is there any tutorial about the alternative 
>>> key  pads Or text entry methodsor text entry methods  that are available 
>>> with the latest software 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 11:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That is slide to type. It works a bit like Flicktype except you find the 
>>>> first letter of the word you want, hold until you hear the tritone and 
>>>> then you slide to al the other letters of the word very quickly and 
>>>> approximately, the system will guess by your patrtern what word you want, 
>>>> as soon as Voiceover speaks it you can lift your finger and it is inserted.
>>>> But you can turn this off. 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Shermeen Khan
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 6:08 PM
>>>> To: viphone 
>>>> Subject: Sliding around the keyboard generates word suggesitons?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sorry for just springing out of nowhere with five million questions, 
>>>> but this luddite is trying to get in with the new, it's hard to teach an 
>>>> old dog new tricks, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> I use touch-typing, and have voiceover sounds enabled. I also have 
>>>> predictive text disabled, but have enabled auto-correct. When I am typing, 
>>>> if I linger on one letter for a split second too long, or if I slide my 
>>>> finger around the keyboard to get to the letter I'm looking for, I'll hear 
>>>> a tri-tone sort of sound and then, if I keep sliding around, I hear 
>>>> various words being suggested. This was not my experience with ios 12 and 
>>>> my iPhone 8, and I'm not sure what gives.
>>>> Any thoughts or suggestions? It has certainly made typing so much more 
>>>> cumbersome.
>>>> Thanks so much, and again, sorry for the thousand posts.
>>>> 
>>>> Shermeen
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Re: Sliding around the keyboard generates word suggesitons?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

You can toggle on/off the alternate characters in Settings, General and 
navigate to keyboard. There should be an option to do so in the main keyboard 
settings screen.

I hope this helps.

Ed

> On Dec 18, 2019, at 9:49 AM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> The option of alternative character being default is very problematic. Don’t 
> know how to disable it. Is there any tutorial about the alternative key  pads 
> Or text entry methodsor text entry methods  that are available with the 
> latest software 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 11:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> That is slide to type. It works a bit like Flicktype except you find the 
>> first letter of the word you want, hold until you hear the tritone and then 
>> you slide to al the other letters of the word very quickly and 
>> approximately, the system will guess by your patrtern what word you want, as 
>> soon as Voiceover speaks it you can lift your finger and it is inserted.
>> But you can turn this off. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Shermeen Khan
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 6:08 PM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Sliding around the keyboard generates word suggesitons?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm sorry for just springing out of nowhere with five million questions, but 
>> this luddite is trying to get in with the new, it's hard to teach an old dog 
>> new tricks, etc.
>> 
>> I use touch-typing, and have voiceover sounds enabled. I also have 
>> predictive text disabled, but have enabled auto-correct. When I am typing, 
>> if I linger on one letter for a split second too long, or if I slide my 
>> finger around the keyboard to get to the letter I'm looking for, I'll hear a 
>> tri-tone sort of sound and then, if I keep sliding around, I hear various 
>> words being suggested. This was not my experience with ios 12 and my iPhone 
>> 8, and I'm not sure what gives.
>> Any thoughts or suggestions? It has certainly made typing so much more 
>> cumbersome.
>> Thanks so much, and again, sorry for the thousand posts.
>> 
>> Shermeen
>> 
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Re: popping buble sounds while typing?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Yes, you can turn off some of the sounds. Navigate to Settings, accessibility, 
VoiceOver, Audio, sound an haptics, Navigate down to the Text Editing section 
and you can adjust any of those sounds. 

I hope this helps.

Ed, 

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If you don't use swipe to type I would turn that off as well as the 
> suggestions which show up at the top of your keyboard and which may make a 
> sound, some of it may also be automatic spell checking which you can also 
> turn off, I think all o fit is in Settings > General > Keyboard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shermeen Khan
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 3:29 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: popping buble sounds while typing?
> 
> Hi again all,
> 
> Every time I touch-type, I hear all sorts of popping bubble sounds, along 
> with the keyboard clicks as well as the voiceover clicks. It's a bit of 
> auditory overload here. Without disabling all voiceover sounds, is there a 
> way to get the bubble noises to stop? I do like auto-correct to be enabled, 
> and it is, but these popping sounds make typing feel so busy if you know what 
> I mean. Can this be addressed or customized in any way?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Shermeen
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Re: Sliding around the keyboard generates word suggesitons?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

If you turn up the time thresh-hold of when slide to type activates you can 
utilize it to type longer words much quicker.

You can turn the thresh-hold up in Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, typing 
and navigate to the bottom of this menu to adjust the setting thresh-hold.

I use a combination of slide to type and touch typing. You can also add the 
option to your rotor and can quickly toggle it on/off with the VO rotor.

I have even stopped using FlickType because I love this built in feature.

Ed W.

> On Dec 18, 2019, at 7:40 AM, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
> 
> Oh, interesting. I feel it's such a nuisance, but I imagine that with
> practise, it can actualy potentially speed things up. do any of you
> guys find it improves your typing speed at all?
> 
> Thanks again for responding to my many questions.
> 
> Shermeen
> 
> 
> On 12/17/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> That is slide to type. It works a bit like Flicktype except you find the
>> first letter of the word you want, hold until you hear the tritone and then
>> you slide to al the other letters of the word very quickly and
>> approximately, the system will guess by your patrtern what word you want, as
>> soon as Voiceover speaks it you can lift your finger and it is inserted.
>> But you can turn this off.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Shermeen Khan
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 6:08 PM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Sliding around the keyboard generates word suggesitons?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm sorry for just springing out of nowhere with five million questions, but
>> this luddite is trying to get in with the new, it's hard to teach an old dog
>> new tricks, etc.
>> 
>> I use touch-typing, and have voiceover sounds enabled. I also have
>> predictive text disabled, but have enabled auto-correct. When I am typing,
>> if I linger on one letter for a split second too long, or if I slide my
>> finger around the keyboard to get to the letter I'm looking for, I'll hear a
>> tri-tone sort of sound and then, if I keep sliding around, I hear various
>> words being suggested. This was not my experience with ios 12 and my iPhone
>> 8, and I'm not sure what gives.
>> Any thoughts or suggestions? It has certainly made typing so much more
>> cumbersome.
>> Thanks so much, and again, sorry for the thousand posts.
>> 
>> Shermeen
>> 
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Re: IOS13.3 message subject announcement problem

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

This sounds like your notification settings for messages might be the culprit. 
You might have notifications set to "only show when unlocked” This might be 
affecting voiceover’s ability to read the incoming message aloud.

Ed is 

> On Dec 14, 2019, at 2:12 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> Hello list
> After installing IOS13.3 I notice that when a message comes through I hear
> the sound and contact's name but not the subject, it just says "text
> message". I made sure that "message subject" is on in settings / messages.
> Has anyone experienced this on the iPhone 11?
> Regards
> Fanus
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Re: Twitterrific’s go to SideBar gesture?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

The closest thing to this would be the jump to top of screen gesture for 
VouceOver. You can invoke this by doing a four finger single tap near the top 
of the screen. This should jump you to the side bar button as it’s the top left 
most button on screen.

HTH

Ed W.


> On Dec 7, 2019, at 6:51 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Anyone of you guys using Twitterrific, know if there’s a VoiceOver gesture to 
> go directly to the Side Bar, from which you can select the different buffers, 
> and/or options, without having to Explore by Touch to get there? Otherwise 
> Twitterrific, especially with its keyboard shortcuts, is awesome!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: Adding more than 6 complications on Apple Watch Series 4

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Hey Wayne,

The watch face your looking for is called the InfoGraph face. This will allow 
you to add up to 8 complication s 


I hope this helps,

Ed W.


> On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> Greetings. I use one of the modular infograph watch faces on my Series
> 4 Apple Watch running WatchOS 6.1. The face I use has 5 complications,
> but I would like to add one or two more. There does not seem to be a
> way to add another complication to a watch face, unless I'm missing
> something. I've done some browsing in the Watch Face tab of the Watch
> iPhone app and cannot find a face with 7 or 8 complications. My Series
> 4 watch is the 44mm size, so I'm sure there's room. Does anyone know
> of a face that will allow 7 or 8 complications, or a way to add more
> complications to an existing watch face?
> 
> Thanks for any assistance,
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Re: VoiceOver not Playing with iPhone 7 and Bose Soundlink 2 Speaker

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Greg,

I am having the same issue with my Bose Soundware speaker. I have sent emails 
from the support section within the Bose Connect application and have not heard 
back from Bose. I am starting to think that they don’t care about the 
accessibility issue in the newer phones/operating systems.

Ed


> On Nov 20, 2019, at 8:34 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
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> Greetings, everyone.
> 
> I cannot get VoiceOver to  speak through my Bose Soundlink 2 Bluetooth
> speaker using an iPhone 7.  Phone content does indeed speak.  I did
> not have this problem with the iPhone SE.  Can anyone confirm this
> behavior?  Is it a peculiarity of the phone?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Re: Update Problem Bug I Can't Fix

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Have you tried toggling VoiceOver off and back on again with either using Siri 
or with the accessibility short cut? This should resolve the voiceover not 
speaking issue.

I hope this helps.

Ed W.

> On Nov 14, 2019, at 9:45 PM, Carla  wrote:
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>  
> Richard I'm running the latest.  Sorry I got the numbers wrong.  Ugh.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Update Problem Bug I Can't Fix
>  
> That issue should have been resolved in the latest version, which is 13.2.2.
> If you are not running that version, you are not on the latest.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
>  
> 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Carla  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> This is the first real bug I've ever dealt with.  I'm using the latest 
>> update which is 13.03 or something like that.  Anyway when I end a call I 
>> lose speech and everything on my phone goes blank and it takes me forever to 
>> be able to shut down and reboot.  Is there a work around until a new update 
>> comes out with the fix?  I really can't handle this one and I am technology 
>> challenged.  Thanks for any help you can give if there is any to give.
>>  
>> Carla
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Re: Disney Plus accessibility and described movies

[Ed Worrell]

No I don’t think so. The only way I can think to make it play all the time is 
to go into settings, Accessibility and turn Audio description on. If the Disney 
app uses the default iOS player it should activate the Described Audio the nthe 
video starts playing. If the Disney player doesn’t utilize the default player 
in iOS you have to start playing the video, pause the video and then double tap 
on the video and navigate to the audio tab at the top of the screen and find 
the option in that menu to activate it.

I hope this helps.

Ed W. 

> On Nov 14, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO)  
> wrote:
> 
> I have searched the app on my phone and I'm trying to find out how to turn on 
> the descriptive feature. My husband who is sighted was able to do it after 
> the movie started. Is there a way to turn this on prior to the start of a 
> movie and will it be turned on for everyone or only for individual profiles? 
> Thanks 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 11:22 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Disney Plus accessibility and described movies
> 
> The Accessibility of both the iOS app and the Apple TV  is great. There are 
> no unlabeled buttons the navigation is simple enough. I did have some loading 
> issues here on the first day but those for the most part have smoothed out 
> over the last day or so.
> 
> I do know most of the newer movies have Audio Description as My wife and I 
> watched the new Dumbo movie and it was present in that one.
> 
> Ed W.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> We also signed up yesterday here in Canada and watched Lady and the Tramp 
>> last night and it had audio descriptions. My wife turned it on so I can't 
>> speak too much as to the accessibility, there is no Windows 10 app yet on 
>> the Microsoft Store, just a web app.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Disney Plus accessibility and described movies
>> 
>> After a bit more research, I've learned that around 200 movies are audio 
>> described at launch, as well as the original shows they are creating for the 
>> service, such as, "The World Accordign to Jeff Goldbloom." Setting the audio 
>> description up is another story. I had to use Team Viewer on my computer 
>> with Aira to set the option. The app is accessible, but there are spots 
>> where it has some accessibility issues and other bugs, such as within the 
>> media player. Anyway, once the audio description is enabled, it remains so 
>> on all devices used to access the service. In other words, I set it with 
>> Aira's help on my computer, and when I started watching the same show on my 
>> phone, I heard the audio description. I read a comment on AppleVis on the 
>> Disney Plus app directory entry that Disney has been made aware of the 
>> issues and are working on fixes. There is a free 7 day trial before 
>> subscriptions start, so it is worth checking out for fans of Disney, Pixar, 
>> Marvel, Star Wars, Muppets,and more.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> On 11/13/19, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
>>> Not sure about the audio described, but I know it has all the older 
>>> stuff from 1930’s and beyond.  Rocky and bowinkle, lady and the 
>>> tramp, even the old Micky mouse stuff.  As for buffering on the 
>>> appleTV, I have had no issues with it and I signed up right at 2:00AM when 
>>> it was ready.
>>> 
>>> Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, 
>>> sports, have special guests, and is always family friendly We are now 
>>> on Apple Anchor Spotify Google Podcasts OverCast stitcher Breaker 
>>> PodBean And on Radio Public You can send an email between Podcasts 
>>> with your questions, comments, or suggestions to: sturi...@icloud.com 
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>>> to our YouTube Page And follow our blog for updates and announcements
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Patti Johnson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I read this morning that there is AD on some of the content but that 
>>>> it buffers a lot on the Apple TV.  This would be unacceptable for me 
>>>> if I'm paying ofr something.
>>>> Being its so new I think I'll wait a while before I think about 
>>>> getting it.  Also hope they include

Re: Disney Plus accessibility and described movies

[Ed Worrell]

The Accessibility of both the iOS app and the Apple TV  is great. There are no 
unlabeled buttons the navigation is simple enough. I did have some loading 
issues here on the first day but those for the most part have smoothed out over 
the last day or so.

I do know most of the newer movies have Audio Description as My wife and I 
watched the new Dumbo movie and it was present in that one.

Ed W.


> On Nov 13, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> We also signed up yesterday here in Canada and watched Lady and the Tramp 
> last night and it had audio descriptions. My wife turned it on so I can't 
> speak too much as to the accessibility, there is no Windows 10 app yet on the 
> Microsoft Store, just a web app.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Disney Plus accessibility and described movies
> 
> After a bit more research, I've learned that around 200 movies are audio 
> described at launch, as well as the original shows they are creating for the 
> service, such as, "The World Accordign to Jeff Goldbloom." Setting the audio 
> description up is another story. I had to use Team Viewer on my computer with 
> Aira to set the option. The app is accessible, but there are spots where it 
> has some accessibility issues and other bugs, such as within the media 
> player. Anyway, once the audio description is enabled, it remains so on all 
> devices used to access the service. In other words, I set it with Aira's help 
> on my computer, and when I started watching the same show on my phone, I 
> heard the audio description. I read a comment on AppleVis on the Disney Plus 
> app directory entry that Disney has been made aware of the issues and are 
> working on fixes. There is a free 7 day trial before subscriptions start, so 
> it is worth checking out for fans of Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, 
> Muppets,and more.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/13/19, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
>> Not sure about the audio described, but I know it has all the older 
>> stuff from 1930’s and beyond.  Rocky and bowinkle, lady and the tramp, 
>> even the old Micky mouse stuff.  As for buffering on the appleTV, I 
>> have had no issues with it and I signed up right at 2:00AM when it was ready.
>> 
>> Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, 
>> sports, have special guests, and is always family friendly We are now 
>> on Apple Anchor Spotify Google Podcasts OverCast stitcher Breaker 
>> PodBean And on Radio Public You can send an email between Podcasts 
>> with your questions, comments, or suggestions to: sturi...@icloud.com 
>> Follow us on Twitter Listen to our live stream on periscope Subscribe 
>> to our YouTube Page And follow our blog for updates and announcements
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Patti Johnson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I read this morning that there is AD on some of the content but that 
>>> it buffers a lot on the Apple TV.  This would be unacceptable for me 
>>> if I'm paying ofr something.
>>> Being its so new I think I'll wait a while before I think about 
>>> getting it.  Also hope they include older Disney fare, there is some 
>>> now  but I want 40s 50s and 60s stuff. And a lo of it.
>>> Patti
>>> 
>>> On 11/12/19, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
 Greetings. AS the subject says, I am wondering if there are any 
 early adopters of the Disney Plus service/app, how accessible it is 
 with VoiceOver, and how many movies/shows are audio described? This 
 is a new streaming service starting today which is competitively 
 priced at
 $6.99 US I believe. Disney has several major properties including 
 their own content, Pixar, Star Wars, Marval, and others I'm 
 forgetting. They also have content and shows from National 
 Geographic, which is also appealing. Considering they are priced 
 below NetFlix, it is a tempting offer, provided there's a fair 
 amount of described content.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: AirPods Pro

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Anthony,

If you go into bluetooth, select the AirPods more info button directly after 
the AirPods in the connection list you can go into settings. When you are in 
settings for the AirPods you can switch modes and listen to the sound 
indicators.

Double tap on the mode after Voiceover announces it and it will play the sound 
and switch modes. This is how I figured out the sounds and settings for the 
headphones.

Ed 

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> I’m a little confused there are only two beeps one is the single beep and the 
> next beep has the single beep plus another higher tone beep which is which
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Anthony,
>> 
>> It depends. When you are wearing only one AirPod you can switch between 
>> transparency mode and off, when you are wearing both AirPods you can switch 
>> between off, Noise Canceling mode and Transparency mode. So I guess the true 
>> answer would be no. 
>> I hope this helps,
>> 
>> Ed W.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Ed;
>>> When the noise cancellation mode is not on is the transparency mode on?
>>> Thanks
>>> Anthony
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Devin,
>>>> 
>>>> The ambiance or transparency mode is in either mode (stereo or mono). This 
>>>> depends on if you have both AirPods in your ears or only one. I love using 
>>>> the transparency mode when I am at work I can listen to audio books or 
>>>> music and hear when someone walks into my office or needs to talk with me.
>>>> 
>>>> Ed W.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Devin Prater  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Is the ambiance mode in stereo, or is it just mono?
>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Jennie Facer  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> It sounds as if there are no AirPods in your ears at all. It sounds very 
>>>>>> nice!
>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>>>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> When you turn on the transparent mode, how much of the ambient sound do 
>>>>>>> you hear? Does it sound realistic or over-processed?
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>>>>>>> That feature, being able to switch between enhanced ambience and noise 
>>>>>>>> cancellation is what really draw me to these. $100 be damned!  The 
>>>>>>>> differences are worth it!
>>>>>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>>>>>>>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>>>>>>>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
>>>>>>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>>>>>>>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>>>>>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Jennie Facer  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yes it is true. It sounded weird at first, but now I am used to it 
>>>>>>>>> and I love it. I used it on a bus yesterday and had no problems with 
>>>>>>>>> noise cancellation. It sounded as if I were just riding in a hybrid 
>>>>>>>>> car. It was really fun!
>>>>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>>>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>>>>>>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:22 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So idiot true you get both noise cancellation AND enhanced 
>>>>>>>>>> ambience, and can change between with a gesture?
>>>>>>>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>>>>>>>>>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>>>>>>>>>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
>>>>>>>>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>>>>>>>>>> Linkedin.com/in/l

Re: AirPods Pro

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Anthony,

It depends. When you are wearing only one AirPod you can switch between 
transparency mode and off, when you are wearing both AirPods you can switch 
between off, Noise Canceling mode and Transparency mode. So I guess the true 
answer would be no. 
I hope this helps,

Ed W.


> On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Hey Ed;
> When the noise cancellation mode is not on is the transparency mode on?
> Thanks
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Devin,
>> 
>> The ambiance or transparency mode is in either mode (stereo or mono). This 
>> depends on if you have both AirPods in your ears or only one. I love using 
>> the transparency mode when I am at work I can listen to audio books or music 
>> and hear when someone walks into my office or needs to talk with me.
>> 
>> Ed W.
>> 
>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> Is the ambiance mode in stereo, or is it just mono?
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>>> It sounds as if there are no AirPods in your ears at all. It sounds very 
>>>> nice!
>>>> Jenn
>>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> When you turn on the transparent mode, how much of the ambient sound do 
>>>>> you hear? Does it sound realistic or over-processed?
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>>>>> That feature, being able to switch between enhanced ambience and noise 
>>>>>> cancellation is what really draw me to these. $100 be damned!  The 
>>>>>> differences are worth it!
>>>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>>>>>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>>>>>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
>>>>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>>>>>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>>>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Jennie Facer  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes it is true. It sounded weird at first, but now I am used to it and 
>>>>>>> I love it. I used it on a bus yesterday and had no problems with noise 
>>>>>>> cancellation. It sounded as if I were just riding in a hybrid car. It 
>>>>>>> was really fun!
>>>>>>> Jenn
>>>>>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>>>>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:22 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>>>>>>> So idiot true you get both noise cancellation AND enhanced ambience, 
>>>>>>>> and can change between with a gesture?
>>>>>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>>>>>>>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>>>>>>>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
>>>>>>>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>>>>>>>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>>>>>>>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2019, at 7:02 PM, John Panarese  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>    I’ve been using them for a week now. I think they are fantastic. 
>>>>>>>>> I like them better than the original ones. The sound quality is 
>>>>>>>>> impressive to me, and I like the fact they added an easier way to 
>>>>>>>>> control them with the side buttons.
>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone;
>>>>>>>>>> I’m on my way to

Re: AirPods Pro

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Devin,

The ambiance or transparency mode is in either mode (stereo or mono). This 
depends on if you have both AirPods in your ears or only one. I love using the 
transparency mode when I am at work I can listen to audio books or music and 
hear when someone walks into my office or needs to talk with me.

Ed W.

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Is the ambiance mode in stereo, or is it just mono?
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds as if there are no AirPods in your ears at all. It sounds very 
>> nice!
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When you turn on the transparent mode, how much of the ambient sound do you 
>>> hear? Does it sound realistic or over-processed?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
 
 That feature, being able to switch between enhanced ambience and noise 
 cancellation is what really draw me to these. $100 be damned!  The 
 differences are worth it!
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
 Louie P (Pete) Nalda
 MySpace.com/musikonalda
 Facebook.com/lpnalda
 Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
 Twitter: @lpnalda
 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Jennie Facer  
>> wrote:
> 
> Yes it is true. It sounded weird at first, but now I am used to it and I 
> love it. I used it on a bus yesterday and had no problems with noise 
> cancellation. It sounded as if I were just riding in a hybrid car. It was 
> really fun!
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:22 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> So idiot true you get both noise cancellation AND enhanced ambience, 
>> and can change between with a gesture?
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
>> MySpace.com/musikonalda
>> Facebook.com/lpnalda
>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
 On Nov 11, 2019, at 7:02 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
>>>    I’ve been using them for a week now. I think they are fantastic. I 
>>> like them better than the original ones. The sound quality is 
>>> impressive to me, and I like the fact they added an easier way to 
>>> control them with the side buttons.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Nov 11, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
 
 Hi everyone;
 I’m on my way to pick up the Apple AirPods Pro.
 I’ll let you know what I think.
 Thanks
 
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Re: Glucose meters with voiceover

[Ed Worrell]

The Glucose monitor your looking for is the DexCom G5 or G6 system. The G6 
connects to your iPhone via bluetooth and sends blood sugar readings to a 
dedicated application on your iPhone every 5 minutes. This app will also send 
out alerts when your blood sugar is to low/high, raising/dropping to quickly. 

I would be happy to answer anymore questions you may have on it.

Ed Worrell
blindworr...@gmail.com

> On Nov 8, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Actually, The Prodigy meter is an independent deal, it has nothing to do with 
> the iPhone or voiceover. There are two systems which work with voiceover 
> through an app. Both of them are continuous monitoring systems. Are you 
> looking for a continuous monitoring system that is a CGM? Or are you looking 
> for a glucose meter where you do the typical stick your finger and get your 
> immediate reading? If you’re looking for the latter, then The Prodigy is the 
> one you want. If you need continuous glucose monitoring, then you have the 
> freestyle libre, which has an app, or Another one, the name of which escapes 
> me now. It’s more expensive. Offers more features. I want to say decks C om. 
> They have the G5, and I think the newest one is the G6. If you do not need, 
> or your doctor won’t sign off on a continuous glucose monitoring system, then 
> as far as I am aware, The Prodigy is the only one. And it has nothing 
> whatsoever to do with iPhones or voiceover or whatever.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2019, at 6:26 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I didn’t read all my messages, so I don’t know if this question was 
>> answered, but if it was you get a repeat performance.
>> It was The Prodigy talking meter and I believe it’s the second.
>> Peggy
>> 
>> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can someone please remind me what the name of the glucose meter that works 
>>> with voiceover is?
>>> 
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

I have found so far that there is very little sound delay with VoiceOver and 
the new AirPod Pros. It is very quick and snappy with VO.

Ed 

> On Nov 9, 2019, at 6:27 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if the audio delay is less compared to version 1? I know 
> second gen have less delay, but not sure about pros. I actually still have 
> first generation!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/4/2019 1:19 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed 
>> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take some 
>> getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your audio 
>> such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around you 
>> ducking under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can tell you 
>> only lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode is active. 
>> You get the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I find the Pros to 
>> be much more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after wearing them 
>> for a lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with 3 different 
>> silicone ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100 times better 
>> then the original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and audio makes it so 
>> there is very little or even no lag for voiceover users. Gestures and what 
>> is spoken are in pretty good sync.
>> 
>> So far I really like them a lot.
>> 
>> Ed W.
>>  
>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
>>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
>>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are 
>>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the 
>>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really 
>>> goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few 
>>> hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Maria Reyes
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>>> October 30
>>> 
>>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery 
>>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a 
>>>> certain amount.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro 
>>>> do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>> lenron brown 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>> October 30
>>>> 
>>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
>>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
>>>> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
>>>> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
>>>> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
>>>> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
>>>>> again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and
>>>>> the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load,
>>>>> the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to
>>>>> medium hearing loss, not using wireless have pretty small demands on
>>>>> the battery. The more profound the loss, the more wireless activity,
>>>>> the higher the load. The apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts
>>>>> of processing (but it's why they do seamless switching between
>>>>> devices and happily connect to their phone/ipad/laptop from many feet 
>>>>> away).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not privy to the precise figures for any

Re: Twitterrific and (null)

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

I have been in contact with the developer of Twitterrific and there is a fix 
coming soon. I have found that if you do a manual refresh on the timeline it 
will load the proper text in the Tweet.

Ed

> On Nov 8, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I’m on the latest iOS and since yesterday I’m having a lot of Tweets 
> with the word (Null) in them. I don’t get to read the actual tweet. Does 
> anyone know what this is about or are they experiencing it?
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
> 
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Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Lenron,

You are correct it would really take some jumping and shaking around to Gert 
these to fall out. They are in your ears pretty snug.

Ed W.

> On Nov 5, 2019, at 6:13 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Good that the audio is better. I would think it would be for 250 bucks
> though. The audio in the Airpods first gens kind of suck though.
> Honestly if I pay more than 200 bucks I want an over the ear headset.
> I am guessing but I bet these pros don't fall out like the normal
> airpods.
> 
> On 11/5/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> In my opinion, the price is way to expensive.  If I'm going to pay
>> $250 for something, then it had better have better battery life then 3
>> hours.  I've got a pair of ear buds that are wireless and lasts for
>> about the same time, but I didn't pay anywhere near the price of the
>> new apple airpods.
>> 
>> On 11/5/19, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Thanks for that; I read a review about them recently which, along with
>>> your
>>> impressions, makes me think I want a pair. 
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 18:19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am
>>>> impressed
>>>> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take
>>>> some getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows
>>>> your
>>>> audio such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around
>>>> you ducking under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can
>>>> tell you only lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode
>>>> is active. You get the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I
>>>> find
>>>> the Pros to be much more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after
>>>> wearing them for a lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with
>>>> 3
>>>> different silicone ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100
>>>> times better then the original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and
>>>> audio makes it so there is very little or even no lag for voiceover
>>>> users.
>>>> Gestures and what is spoken are in pretty good sync.
>>>> 
>>>> So far I really like them a lot.
>>>> 
>>>> Ed W.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a
>>>>> different
>>>>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal
>>>>> and
>>>>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are
>>>>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the
>>>>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what
>>>>> really goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode
>>>>> the few hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>>>>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> Maria Reyes
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>>> October 30
>>>>> 
>>>>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The
>>>>>> battery
>>>>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a
>>>>>> certain amount.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods
>>>>>> pro do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>>>> lenron brown 
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>>>> October 30
>>>>>> 
&g

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Joshua,

You in  fact do get better then 3 hours of battery. Each ear pod has a battery 
that last for 5 hours on a single charge, plus you have the battery case, this 
gets you 24 or more hours of use. The Air Pods take simply 15 mins to get to an 
80% charge and this gets you more than 3 hours with the quick charge.

I don’t mean to sound harsh hear but if you don’t want them don’t get them and 
stop complaining about them.

Ed W.

> On Nov 5, 2019, at 6:07 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, the price is way to expensive.  If I'm going to pay
> $250 for something, then it had better have better battery life then 3
> hours.  I've got a pair of ear buds that are wireless and lasts for
> about the same time, but I didn't pay anywhere near the price of the
> new apple airpods.
> 
> On 11/5/19, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Thanks for that; I read a review about them recently which, along with your
>> impressions, makes me think I want a pair. 
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>>> On 4 Nov 2019, at 18:19, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed
>>> with them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take
>>> some getting used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your
>>> audio such as music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around
>>> you ducking under it so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can
>>> tell you only lose about 20 mins off of the full charge when either mode
>>> is active. You get the same battery life as the original Air Pods. I find
>>> the Pros to be much more comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after
>>> wearing them for a lengthily listen to my favorite music. They come with 3
>>> different silicone ear tips for a customizable fit.  The audio is 100
>>> times better then the original Air Pods. The new H1 chip for Siri and
>>> audio makes it so there is very little or even no lag for voiceover users.
>>> Gestures and what is spoken are in pretty good sync.
>>> 
>>> So far I really like them a lot.
>>> 
>>> Ed W.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different
>>>> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and
>>>> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are
>>>> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the
>>>> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what
>>>> really goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode
>>>> the few hours of battery life will be even further shortened.
>>>> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Maria Reyes
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>> October 30
>>>> 
>>>>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery
>>>>> life doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a
>>>>> certain amount.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods
>>>>> pro do that my current airpods2 dont?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>>> lenron brown 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available
>>>>> October 30
>>>>> 
>>>>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the
>>>>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of
>>>>> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again
>>>>> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if
>>>>> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that
>>>>> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can 

Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 30

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I just got my Air Pods Pro’s in the mail over the weekend. I am impressed with 
them. The noice canceling feature is interesting and it will take some getting 
used to. The Transparency mode is really cool. It allows your audio such as 
music or even Voiceover to be heard with the audio around you ducking under it 
so you can hear your surroundings. From what I can tell you only lose about 20 
mins off of the full charge when either mode is active. You get the same 
battery life as the original Air Pods. I find the Pros to be much more 
comfortable and I don’t have any soreness after wearing them for a lengthily 
listen to my favorite music. They come with 3 different silicone ear tips for a 
customizable fit.  The audio is 100 times better then the original Air Pods. 
The new H1 chip for Siri and audio makes it so there is very little or even no 
lag for voiceover users. Gestures and what is spoken are in pretty good sync.

So far I really like them a lot.

Ed W.
 

> On Oct 29, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> In addition to having active noise cancellation they are also a different 
> design, the Airpods Pro have silicon tips, sit nside your ear canal  and 
> completely seal your ear. They have apparently some mode where you are 
> supposed to be able to hear what's going on around you through the 
> microphones of these Airpods, but how realistic that represents what really 
> goes on around you remains to be seen and I assume in this mode the few hours 
> of battery life will be even further shortened.
> At $249 US they certainly won't be on my "I wish I had those" list.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Reyes
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 7:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available October 
> 30
> 
>> They have noise cancellation. I enjoy my first gen AirPods. The battery life 
>> doesn't really bother me, but that's because I only use them a certain 
>> amount. 
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I haven’t really been following this thread, but what do these AirPods pro 
>> do that my current airpods2 dont?
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>> lenron brown 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:19:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, available 
>> October 30
>> 
>> I normally end up doing the wear one at a time thing because of the 
>> battery life. It kind of drives me nuts, I think I will glad a pair of 
>> the over the ear beats that just came out at some point. Then again 
>> the Bose might be a better choice, will do some testing. Anyways if 
>> the batteries in the Airpods Pro are the same they are not all that 
>> useful to me. Maybe in a few years we can get at least 10 hours.
>> 
>> On 10/29/19, Keith Bierman  wrote:
>>> again, it's a matter of the load (how much processing there is) and 
>>> the size of the battery. The more processing, the higher the load, 
>>> the bigger the drain on the battery. hearing aides for small to 
>>> medium hearing loss, not using wireless have pretty small demands on 
>>> the battery. The more profound the loss, the more wireless activity, 
>>> the higher the load. The apple airpods have (arguably) daft amounts 
>>> of processing (but it's why they do seamless switching between 
>>> devices and happily connect to their phone/ipad/laptop from many feet away).
>>> 
>>> I'm not privy to the precise figures for any of the internals 
>>> (hearing aid, cochlear processor, airpods) but the engineering 
>>> trade-offs are pretty much textbook material for the fundamental 
>>> considerations.  The internal details matter, a lot ... but without 
>>> comparative teardowns, lab testing and instrumentation, it's all a 
>>> bit handwavy ;>
>>> 
>>> In any event, as a consumer everyone needs to decide what meets
>>> *their* requirements,
>>> w.r.t. usage modes, battery life, water resistance, etc.
>>> 
>>> Keith Bierman
>>> khb...@gmail.com
>>> 303 997 2749
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:16 AM Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:
>>> 
 If that was correct, why than do rechargeable hearing aids last for 
 days on a charge, and for four days on a small wafer battery?
 
 
 
 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
 Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
 *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 9:16 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: Apple Newsroom: Apple reveals new AirPods Pro, 
 available October 30
 
 
 
 It will be a long time before battery technology is advanced enough 
 to offer 8 or 10 hours in such a tiny design.
 
 Maybe they could design a hat with solar panels which wirelessly 
 charges your Airpods while they are in your ear. If you live in a 
 place with little sunshine that of course wouldn’t do you much 
 good. Oh, wait, 

Re: The native Twitter client

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Anthony,

If you find the tabs on the bottom of the screen there should be one labeled 
notifications. Activate that one and navigate through the content and that 
should clear it out. Alternatively you can find the first notification and 
perform the three finger drag down to refresh the feed and it will also clear 
the notifications.

I hope this helps.

Ed W.

 

> On Oct 25, 2019, at 5:26 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Good morning everyone;
> Is there a the thorough podcast or a manual I could read that will assist me 
> in learning how to use the native Twitter client?
> i’m showing 22 notifications.
> Where do I go to read these notifications and, how could I mark them all as 
> read so that that number 22 goes away.
> Please help?
> Thanks in adVance
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
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Re: Twitterrific's Contex menu New Tweet item

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

I think I understand what you are talking about. If you double tap and hold on 
the Twitterrific icon on the home screen you are presented with the context 
menu.

I too am seeing the same issues. This might be an iOS issue and not with 
Twitterrific. I find if you double tap and hold on the icon instead of simply 
double tapping and holding anywhere on the screen after the name is announced 
it works more reliably.

Ed W.
 

> On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> What I’m trying to say is that on iOS13, double-tap and hold brings up what’s 
> called a context menu, right? Within that Context menu, yu now have an option 
> “New Tweet” which isn’t reliable as I’d like, thus I changed back for the 
> time being,while Twitterrific, fixes this issue, to Tweetings, in which the 
> “New Tweet” rom the Context menu, is very reliable!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
>> El 20 oct 2019, a la(s) 10:43 p. m., Christina  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> I don’t understand specifically what you are referring to. Are you talking 
>> about the 2 finger tap that brings up the compose tweet thing or something 
>> else? I am having a lot of problems when on a tweet and I flick down until I 
>> hear more options. When I double tap, it does all kinds of weird stuff and I 
>> have to explore by touch or sometimes even close a window to get to those 
>> options like muffle, mute, etc.
>> 
>> Christina
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is it only me, or do you'll who use Twitterrific find that its New Tweet 
>>> Contex menu item isn't that reliable to work with? I'd say maybe out of 5 
>>> times, maybe 2 or 3 at the most, brings you to the edit field where you can 
>>> start tweeting. I'm using Twitterrific's latest, as well as iOS's latest if 
>>> this helps any.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.

[Ed Worrell]

Sieghard,

Yep, I have done so. I also have told the Deve team that it overlaps with 
controls in many apps and I gave them a list of apps.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

Ed

> On Oct 18, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> Maybe that is so, I am not a developer so I have no idea if it would be that 
> easy, but as I said, you should suggest it to Apple Accessibility because if 
> you don't they will never know some people don't like it.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:53 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
> 
> Hey Sieghard,
> 
> The three finger drag is basically and option now. You have the ability to 
> change it in the custom commands section of VO settings. The development team 
> could simply add a toggle switch to the verbosity section of VO to announce 
> or not announce the vertical scroll bar.
> 
> Problem solved.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ed,
>> 
>> I sort of get what you are saying, but if Apple wanted to implement 
>> everything a few people want as an option nobody could find anything in 
>> Settings any more.
>> I could just as easily say the ability to swipe up and down with 3 fingers 
>> should be an option. The vertical scrollbar is not that hard to ignore if 
>> you don't want to use it and based on the responses to this thread it seems 
>> a lot more people like it than not. You can of course write to Apple 
>> Accessibility and request that this is made optional and if enough others do 
>> as well you may get your wish.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:46 AM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard and. All,
>> 
>> I honestly feel that this should have been implemented as a toggle for VO 
>> users. It is a nuisance and it is useless in my eyes. I should have the 
>> ability to have VO ignore it.
>> 
>> The three finger drag up or down does the same thing and you have more 
>> control with the three finger drag than the vertical slider on the right 
>> side of the screen. Before you jump down my throat I do understand it and I 
>> can see how it could be useful to those with dexterity issues. But it should 
>> be an option not a requirement to use it. Let the user control how they want 
>> to scroll down the page. It adds a few commands/gestures to the messages app 
>> and many other apps it simply gets in the way trying to find things on the 
>> right side of the screen. Again give the user the option to hide it or not.
>> 
>> Ed W.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also think this is a well done feature and I think those who hate it 
>>> maybe have not yet understood its use and learned how to take advantage of 
>>> it.
>>> What Robert refers to as having always been part of the rotor is vertical 
>>> navigation which is very different.
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Feliciano Godoy
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:13 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
>>> 
>>> Robert,
>>> The vertical scrollbar that is being referred to is the one implemented on 
>>> iOS 13. The vertical scrollbar is located on the right hand side edge of 
>>> the screen.
>>> 
>>> Feliciano
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 3:04 AM, Robert Wright  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am confused. The verticle scroll bar has always been a apart of the rotor 
>>> if you happened to add it. Are you saying that in the beta that its been 
>>> moved and made a main part of the screen?
>>> 
>>> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
>>> learning start?*** 
>>> 
>>> From: Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:35 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>

Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.

[Ed Worrell]

Sieghard,

My biggest issue with the scroll bar is that it gets in the way. I use a lot of 
just tapping on the screen where items should be.

Ie. Finding the compose button in Twitterrific, tap in the top right corner of 
the screen. This is made much more difficult as the scroll bar on the right 
gets in the way all of the time. I have talked with the developer of 
Twitterrific and there is no way to hide the scroll bar or make it smaller. The 
design doesn’t respect application interfaces. It’s simply there.

Ed
 

> On Oct 18, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> I sort of get what you are saying, but if Apple wanted to implement 
> everything a few people want as an option nobody could find anything in 
> Settings any more.
> I could just as easily say the ability to swipe up and down with 3 fingers 
> should be an option. The vertical scrollbar is not that hard to ignore if you 
> don't want to use it and based on the responses to this thread it seems a lot 
> more people like it than not. You can of course write to Apple Accessibility 
> and request that this is made optional and if enough others do as well you 
> may get your wish.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:46 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
> 
> Hello Sieghard and. All,
> 
> I honestly feel that this should have been implemented as a toggle for VO 
> users. It is a nuisance and it is useless in my eyes. I should have the 
> ability to have VO ignore it.
> 
> The three finger drag up or down does the same thing and you have more 
> control with the three finger drag than the vertical slider on the right side 
> of the screen. Before you jump down my throat I do understand it and I can 
> see how it could be useful to those with dexterity issues. But it should be 
> an option not a requirement to use it. Let the user control how they want to 
> scroll down the page. It adds a few commands/gestures to the messages app and 
> many other apps it simply gets in the way trying to find things on the right 
> side of the screen. Again give the user the option to hide it or not.
> 
> Ed W.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I also think this is a well done feature and I think those who hate it maybe 
>> have not yet understood its use and learned how to take advantage of it.
>> What Robert refers to as having always been part of the rotor is vertical 
>> navigation which is very different.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Feliciano Godoy
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
>> 
>> Robert,
>> The vertical scrollbar that is being referred to is the one implemented on 
>> iOS 13. The vertical scrollbar is located on the right hand side edge of the 
>> screen.
>> 
>> Feliciano
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>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 3:04 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I am confused. The verticle scroll bar has always been a apart of the rotor 
>> if you happened to add it. Are you saying that in the beta that its been 
>> moved and made a main part of the screen?
>> 
>> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
>> learning start?*** 
>> 
>> From: Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:35 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
>> 
>> Hi Carolyn,
>> 
>> YOu can use it to navigate a page. Flick up or down to move through the 
>> page, or double-tap and hold, and then slide your finger. It also tells you 
>> where you are on the page.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why in the world did they put that thing on the phone? Do any of you 
>>> Beta people have any idea?
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Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Sieghard,

The three finger drag is basically and option now. You have the ability to 
change it in the custom commands section of VO settings. The development team 
could simply add a toggle switch to the verbosity section of VO to announce or 
not announce the vertical scroll bar.

Problem solved.

Ed


> On Oct 18, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> I sort of get what you are saying, but if Apple wanted to implement 
> everything a few people want as an option nobody could find anything in 
> Settings any more.
> I could just as easily say the ability to swipe up and down with 3 fingers 
> should be an option. The vertical scrollbar is not that hard to ignore if you 
> don't want to use it and based on the responses to this thread it seems a lot 
> more people like it than not. You can of course write to Apple Accessibility 
> and request that this is made optional and if enough others do as well you 
> may get your wish.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:46 AM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
> 
> Hello Sieghard and. All,
> 
> I honestly feel that this should have been implemented as a toggle for VO 
> users. It is a nuisance and it is useless in my eyes. I should have the 
> ability to have VO ignore it.
> 
> The three finger drag up or down does the same thing and you have more 
> control with the three finger drag than the vertical slider on the right side 
> of the screen. Before you jump down my throat I do understand it and I can 
> see how it could be useful to those with dexterity issues. But it should be 
> an option not a requirement to use it. Let the user control how they want to 
> scroll down the page. It adds a few commands/gestures to the messages app and 
> many other apps it simply gets in the way trying to find things on the right 
> side of the screen. Again give the user the option to hide it or not.
> 
> Ed W.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I also think this is a well done feature and I think those who hate it maybe 
>> have not yet understood its use and learned how to take advantage of it.
>> What Robert refers to as having always been part of the rotor is vertical 
>> navigation which is very different.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Feliciano Godoy
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
>> 
>> Robert,
>> The vertical scrollbar that is being referred to is the one implemented on 
>> iOS 13. The vertical scrollbar is located on the right hand side edge of the 
>> screen.
>> 
>> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 3:04 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I am confused. The verticle scroll bar has always been a apart of the rotor 
>> if you happened to add it. Are you saying that in the beta that its been 
>> moved and made a main part of the screen?
>> 
>> **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
>> learning start?*** 
>> 
>> From: Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:35 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar.
>> 
>> Hi Carolyn,
>> 
>> YOu can use it to navigate a page. Flick up or down to move through the 
>> page, or double-tap and hold, and then slide your finger. It also tells you 
>> where you are on the page.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why in the world did they put that thing on the phone? Do any of you 
>>> Beta people have any idea?
>>> 
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