RE: Paramout Plus apple tv and iPhone app accessibility

2024-06-27 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Thanks!

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2024 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Barbara Stahl 
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Subject: Re: Paramout Plus apple tv and iPhone app accessibility

 

Hi:  You will have more people to answer your question on the adp email list.  
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and what is accessible with audio Description.  It is not a high volume list 
and there is a link for their web page to see what shows on what networks have 
Audio to them.

Dave

 

On 6/27/2024 9:35 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:

I don't know about on Apple TV, but on the iPhone Paramount Plus is Accessable





On Jun 26, 2024, at 9:18 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
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All:

Is the Paramount plus app on Apple TV and iPhone accessible?

I currently subscribe to this streaming service via Amazon prime channel, and 
it is accessible.

Unfortunately they are doing a price hike in August. I was thinking about going 
through the app and getting annual plan before it increased.

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Re: Paramout Plus apple tv and iPhone app accessibility

2024-06-27 Thread David Grossoehme
Hi:  You will have more people to answer your question on the adp email 
list.  you can join it by sending a message to 
adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org which is a list for blind tv watchers 
and what is accessible with audio Description.  It is not a high volume 
list and there is a link for their web page to see what shows on what 
networks have Audio to them.


Dave


On 6/27/2024 9:35 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:
I don't know about on Apple TV, but on the iPhone Paramount Plus is 
Accessable



On Jun 26, 2024, at 9:18 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:



All:

Is the Paramount plus app on Apple TV and iPhone accessible?

I currently subscribe to this streaming service via Amazon prime 
channel, and it is accessible.


Unfortunately they are doing a price hike in August. I was thinking 
about going through the app and getting annual plan before it increased.


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Re: Paramout Plus apple tv and iPhone app accessibility

2024-06-27 Thread Barbara Stahl
I don't know about on Apple TV, but on the iPhone Paramount Plus is AccessableOn Jun 26, 2024, at 9:18 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:All:Is the Paramount plus app on Apple TV and iPhone accessible?I currently subscribe to this streaming service via Amazon prime channel, and it is accessible.Unfortunately they are doing a price hike in August. I was thinking about going through the app and getting annual plan before it increased.



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Paramout Plus apple tv and iPhone app accessibility

2024-06-26 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
All:

Is the Paramount plus app on Apple TV and iPhone accessible?

I currently subscribe to this streaming service via Amazon prime channel,
and it is accessible.

Unfortunately they are doing a price hike in August. I was thinking about
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Re: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-06-05 Thread David Grossoehme
Sorry I'm a little layte here, I've been on a weeks vacation and just 
catching up on my email.  Richard has the right idea here. You need to 
hold a membership from youTube TV to watch or record a show from them.  
Then when you record the show it is placed in the youTube library.  Then 
you need to go into that library to watch the show that you recorded 
from youTube.  I'm not sure on the facts here.  However, many libraries 
that are in a streaming app like this have a time factor to watch the 
show by.  When that time is up the show will be deleted.  Other 
streaming apps that have a time factor like I'm speaking of, are 90 days 
etc.



Dave


On 5/28/2024 8:01 PM, Jim Portillo wrote:
I could be wrong, but I believe YouTube TV is what does the recording. 
I have a couple series being recorded currently. I don't know if I can 
record actually using Apple TV, but I don't think so.

Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro!

On May 28, 2024, at 4:51 PM, Richard Turner 
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/S this a paid YouTube TV subscription?/

//

/I wonder if you have to have a subscription and use the YouTube app 
for that?/


//

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I’m trying YoutubeTV on apple tv.

How do I setup recording a series? If I press and hold it returns to 
the previous watched channel, which is cool. LOL but trying to figure 
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RE: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread M. Taylor
Hello,

 

I have tried replying earlier but it did not come through.

 

I will check the ap to make certain that it is still accessible.

 

Mark

 

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Yes its paid and using youtube tv app on apple tv.

 

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Subject: RE: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

 

S this a paid YouTube TV subscription?

 

I wonder if you have to have a subscription and use the YouTube app for that?

 

 

 

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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
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Subject: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

 

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I’m trying YoutubeTV on apple tv.

How do I setup recording a series? If I press and hold it returns to the 
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record.

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RE: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Yes its paid and using youtube tv app on apple tv.

 

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Turner
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Subject: RE: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

 

S this a paid YouTube TV subscription?

 

I wonder if you have to have a subscription and use the YouTube app for that?

 

 

 

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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
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I’m trying YoutubeTV on apple tv.

How do I setup recording a series? If I press and hold it returns to the 
previous watched channel, which is cool. LOL but trying to figure out how to 
record.

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Re: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Portillo
I could be wrong, but I believe YouTube TV is what does the recording. I have a couple series being recorded currently. I don't know if I can record actually using Apple TV, but I don't think so.Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro!On May 28, 2024, at 4:51 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:S this a paid YouTube TV subscription? I wonder if you have to have a subscription and use the YouTube app for that?   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.comSent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 4:48 PMTo: macvisionar...@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv All:I’m trying YoutubeTV on apple tv.How do I setup recording a series? If I press and hold it returns to the previous watched channel, which is cool. LOL but trying to figure out how to record.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001501dab159%24878de500%2496a9af00%24%40gmail.com.



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RE: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread Richard Turner
S this a paid YouTube TV subscription?

 

I wonder if you have to have a subscription and use the YouTube app for that?

 

 

 

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I’m trying YoutubeTV on apple tv.

How do I setup recording a series? If I press and hold it returns to the 
previous watched channel, which is cool. LOL but trying to figure out how to 
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YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
All:

I'm trying YoutubeTV on apple tv.

How do I setup recording a series? If I press and hold it returns to the
previous watched channel, which is cool. LOL but trying to figure out how to
record.

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any tips for using apple tv with YoutubeTV and Voiceover?

2024-05-21 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
I broke down and am trying YoutubeTV. They have a free 10 day trial with $20
off first three months. Any documentation to point me to get it up and
running on Apple tv?

I got the app started but want to learn how to best find channels, favorite
them, and record shows.

Feel free to point me to documentation. I have 10 days to decide if I want
to keep it.

I mainly got it for the SEC baseball tournament. Lol.

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Re: Apple TV Remote question

2024-03-16 Thread Ari Moisio

Hello

It will take three hours to fully charge it.



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 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone kirjoitti

Subject: Apple TV Remote question
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:44:13
From: 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone 
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Can someone please tell me how to check the battery status on my Apple TV
Remote?

We recently purchased a new remote, and it is currently pluged in to charge
it.  Just not sure how to determine when it is fully charged.

Thanks.

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Apple TV Remote question

2024-03-16 Thread 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone
Can someone please tell me how to check the battery status on my Apple TV
Remote?

We recently purchased a new remote, and it is currently pluged in to charge
it.  Just not sure how to determine when it is fully charged.

Thanks.

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Prime video on apple tv

2024-01-24 Thread 'Afik Souffir' via VIPhone
Hi
When i watch something on prime video on my apple tv, after an episode is over, 
its said auto play is off. How do i turn it on?
Thanks
Afik 

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RE: An Apple TV Remote Question

2024-01-05 Thread 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone
Found it.  Thank you.

Karen

-Original Message-
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If you have an iPhone, you can bring up a control experience for your Apple TV 
from the phone. Open the Control Center and it should be one of the options.

Kelly


> On Jan 5, 2024, at 8:11�AM, 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I did find a Universal Remote app, but wasn't sure about that one.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Jessica Dail
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Apple TV Remote Question
> 
> Hi,
> There is an app you can get from the app store, which will allow you to pair 
> your iPhone and use that as the remote until you receive your replacement.
> Try searching, "Apple TV remote."
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Jessica dail
> 810-730-1861
> jldai...@outlook.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 9:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Apple TV Remote Question
> 
> The remote came with our little Apple TV device.  I don't know the model.  
> The Accessibility rep must have had the information from when it was 
> purchased, because the only thing he asked us was the color.  It's silver.
> 
> The buttons that don't work are the left and right arrows, and the Select 
> buttons.  Siri is cooperative to a point, but doesn't always get us to where 
> we want to be.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Grossoehme
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: An Apple TV Remote Question
> 
> Which remote do you have.  What action does the buttons take on your remote 
> that don't work for you?  Did you try using Siri to voice the action to your 
> Apple TV to see if that would help you?
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On 1/5/2024 9:34 AM, 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone wrote:
>> After spending some time last night, on the phone with an Apple 
>> Accessibility Rep, we determined that some of the buttons on our Apple 
>> TV remote are no longer working.  Does anyone know of an app that 
>> would work on the phone for controlling Apple TV, until our new remote 
>> arrives?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Karen P
>> 
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Re: An Apple TV Remote Question

2024-01-05 Thread Kelly Ford
If you have an iPhone, you can bring up a control experience for your Apple TV 
from the phone. Open the Control Center and it should be one of the options.

Kelly


> On Jan 5, 2024, at 8:11 AM, 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I did find a Universal Remote app, but wasn't sure about that one.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Jessica Dail
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 8:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Apple TV Remote Question
> 
> Hi,
> There is an app you can get from the app store, which will allow you to pair 
> your iPhone and use that as the remote until you receive your replacement.
> Try searching, "Apple TV remote."
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Jessica dail
> 810-730-1861
> jldai...@outlook.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 9:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: An Apple TV Remote Question
> 
> The remote came with our little Apple TV device.  I don't know the model.  
> The Accessibility rep must have had the information from when it was 
> purchased, because the only thing he asked us was the color.  It's silver.
> 
> The buttons that don't work are the left and right arrows, and the Select 
> buttons.  Siri is cooperative to a point, but doesn't always get us to where 
> we want to be.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Grossoehme
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: An Apple TV Remote Question
> 
> Which remote do you have.  What action does the buttons take on your remote 
> that don't work for you?  Did you try using Siri to voice the action to your 
> Apple TV to see if that would help you?
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On 1/5/2024 9:34 AM, 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone wrote:
>> After spending some time last night, on the phone with an Apple 
>> Accessibility Rep, we determined that some of the buttons on our Apple 
>> TV remote are no longer working.  Does anyone know of an app that 
>> would work on the phone for controlling Apple TV, until our new remote 
>> arrives?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Karen P
>> 
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RE: An Apple TV Remote Question

2024-01-05 Thread 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone
I did find a Universal Remote app, but wasn't sure about that one.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Apple TV Remote Question

Hi,
There is an app you can get from the app store, which will allow you to pair 
your iPhone and use that as the remote until you receive your replacement.
Try searching, "Apple TV remote."



Best regards,
Jessica dail
810-730-1861
jldai...@outlook.com

-Original Message-
From: 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Apple TV Remote Question

The remote came with our little Apple TV device.  I don't know the model.  The 
Accessibility rep must have had the information from when it was purchased, 
because the only thing he asked us was the color.  It's silver.

The buttons that don't work are the left and right arrows, and the Select 
buttons.  Siri is cooperative to a point, but doesn't always get us to where we 
want to be.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Apple TV Remote Question

Which remote do you have.  What action does the buttons take on your remote 
that don't work for you?  Did you try using Siri to voice the action to your 
Apple TV to see if that would help you?

Dave


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> After spending some time last night, on the phone with an Apple 
> Accessibility Rep, we determined that some of the buttons on our Apple 
> TV remote are no longer working.  Does anyone know of an app that 
> would work on the phone for controlling Apple TV, until our new remote 
> arrives?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Karen P
>

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RE: An Apple TV Remote Question

2024-01-05 Thread Jessica Dail
Hi,
There is an app you can get from the app store, which will allow you to pair 
your iPhone and use that as the remote until you receive your replacement.
Try searching, "Apple TV remote."



Best regards,
Jessica dail
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From: 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 9:51 AM
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Subject: RE: An Apple TV Remote Question

The remote came with our little Apple TV device.  I don't know the model.  The 
Accessibility rep must have had the information from when it was purchased, 
because the only thing he asked us was the color.  It's silver.

The buttons that don't work are the left and right arrows, and the Select 
buttons.  Siri is cooperative to a point, but doesn't always get us to where we 
want to be.
 

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Subject: Re: An Apple TV Remote Question

Which remote do you have.  What action does the buttons take on your remote 
that don't work for you?  Did you try using Siri to voice the action to your 
Apple TV to see if that would help you?

Dave


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> After spending some time last night, on the phone with an Apple 
> Accessibility Rep, we determined that some of the buttons on our Apple 
> TV remote are no longer working.  Does anyone know of an app that 
> would work on the phone for controlling Apple TV, until our new remote 
> arrives?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Karen P
>

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RE: An Apple TV Remote Question

2024-01-05 Thread 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone
The remote came with our little Apple TV device.  I don't know the model.  The 
Accessibility rep must have had the information from when it was purchased, 
because the only thing he asked us was the color.  It's silver.

The buttons that don't work are the left and right arrows, and the Select 
buttons.  Siri is cooperative to a point, but doesn't always get us to where we 
want to be.
 

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David Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Apple TV Remote Question

Which remote do you have.� What action does the buttons take on your 
remote that don't work for you?� Did you try using Siri to voice the 
action to your Apple TV to see if that would help you?

Dave


On 1/5/2024 9:34 AM, 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone wrote:
> After spending some time last night, on the phone with an Apple
> Accessibility Rep, we determined that some of the buttons on our Apple TV
> remote are no longer working.  Does anyone know of an app that would work on
> the phone for controlling Apple TV, until our new remote arrives?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Karen P
>

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Re: An Apple TV Remote Question

2024-01-05 Thread David Grossoehme
Which remote do you have.  What action does the buttons take on your 
remote that don't work for you?  Did you try using Siri to voice the 
action to your Apple TV to see if that would help you?


Dave


On 1/5/2024 9:34 AM, 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone wrote:

After spending some time last night, on the phone with an Apple
Accessibility Rep, we determined that some of the buttons on our Apple TV
remote are no longer working.  Does anyone know of an app that would work on
the phone for controlling Apple TV, until our new remote arrives?

Thanks,

Karen P



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An Apple TV Remote Question

2024-01-05 Thread 'Karen Poulakos' via VIPhone
After spending some time last night, on the phone with an Apple
Accessibility Rep, we determined that some of the buttons on our Apple TV
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RE: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

2023-12-29 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Works on my phone. Might need to reset Apple TV.
thanks

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From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

Hello Sarai,

After reading your post, I immediately checked the Prime TV app on my Apple TV 
running the latest versions of both TV OS and the Prime TV app, and all of my 
purchased movies and television shows, along with titles I've recently viewed, 
are in the My Stuff area, just as expected.

So, you may want to check the status of your Amazon account.

Also, if you have not yet done so, open the Prime TV app on any other devices 
you may have such as iOS or iPad OS and take a look.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

Okay let me clarify.
I’m using the Apple TV device with the Prime app. My channels and purchased 
items are not showing up on the Prime app in the Apple TV hardware device.

From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 2:24 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

Prime and Apple TV have their own apps. Perhaps you can log into your Prime 
subscription from the TV app, but I just use the Prime video app for Prime and 
the TV app for Apple. 


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On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:55 AM, mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:

Wow:
What did they do to the Apple TV Prime video app?
I cannot locate any of my subscribed channels, or purchased movies.
Nothing is appearing under my stuff.
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RE: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

2023-12-29 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Sarai,

After reading your post, I immediately checked the Prime TV app on my Apple TV 
running the latest versions of both TV OS and the Prime TV app, and all of my 
purchased movies and television shows, along with titles I've recently viewed, 
are in the My Stuff area, just as expected.

So, you may want to check the status of your Amazon account.

Also, if you have not yet done so, open the Prime TV app on any other devices 
you may have such as iOS or iPad OS and take a look.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

Okay let me clarify.
I’m using the Apple TV device with the Prime app. My channels and purchased 
items are not showing up on the Prime app in the Apple TV hardware device.

From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 2:24 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

Prime and Apple TV have their own apps. Perhaps you can log into your Prime 
subscription from the TV app, but I just use the Prime video app for Prime and 
the TV app for Apple. 


Richard, USA
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Wow:
What did they do to the Apple TV Prime video app?
I cannot locate any of my subscribed channels, or purchased movies.
Nothing is appearing under my stuff.
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RE: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

2023-12-29 Thread Richard Turner
That makes sense now.  I don’t have the Apple TV hardware.

I’d contact both Apple Accessibility and Prime about this.

 

It sounds like something significant has changed.

Best of luck,

 

 

 

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Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 1:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

 

Okay let me clarify.

I’m using the Apple TV device with the Prime app. My channels and purchased 
items are not showing up on the Prime app in the Apple TV hardware device.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

 

Prime and Apple TV have their own apps. Perhaps you can log into your Prime 
subscription from the TV app, but I just use the Prime video app for Prime and 
the TV app for Apple. 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 

 

 

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Wow:

What did they do to the Apple TV Prime video app?

I cannot locate any of my subscribed channels, or purchased movies.

Nothing is appearing under my stuff.

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RE: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

2023-12-29 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Okay let me clarify.

I’m using the Apple TV device with the Prime app. My channels and purchased 
items are not showing up on the Prime app in the Apple TV hardware device.

 

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Prime and Apple TV have their own apps. Perhaps you can log into your Prime 
subscription from the TV app, but I just use the Prime video app for Prime and 
the TV app for Apple. 

 

 

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Wow:

What did they do to the Apple TV Prime video app?

I cannot locate any of my subscribed channels, or purchased movies.

Nothing is appearing under my stuff.

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Re: Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

2023-12-29 Thread Richard Turner
Prime and Apple TV have their own apps. Perhaps you can log into your Prime subscription from the TV app, but I just use the Prime video app for Prime and the TV app for Apple. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 29, 2023, at 11:55 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Wow:What did they do to the Apple TV Prime video app?I cannot locate any of my subscribed channels, or purchased movies.Nothing is appearing under my stuff.



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Amazon Prime Apple TV app channels

2023-12-29 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Wow:

What did they do to the Apple TV Prime video app?

I cannot locate any of my subscribed channels, or purchased movies.

Nothing is appearing under my stuff.

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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-20 Thread Mary Otten
As it happens, when I looked this film that I was interested up on the big 
master list that ACB provides, Hulu doesn’t have audio description, a perfect 
illustration of your point, Chris. So I can pay for it on Amazon or watch it 
for free well almost free, on Hulu without a D. How nice. How absurd!
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 20, 2023, at 5:14 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> That is the frustrating thing about audio description.  Just because 
> something is described with one streaming service does not mean that it will 
> be described with another.  I myself think this should be changed.
> 
> The problem is with the licensing of the audio description.  It seems that 
> the audio description is licensed separately than the movie or show itself. 
> So a streaming service might be licensed to show the movie or tv show, but 
> not licensed to include the audio description.
> 
> I think the audio description and its movie or tv show should come as one 
> package.  If you license the movie or tv show, the audio description should 
> automatically be included.  The same thing goes for something shown live with 
> audio description, but then offered to watch on demand without audio 
> description.  So again, something really needs to be done about audio 
> description and how its distributed.
> 
> Chris Chaffin
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, for whatever reason, the movie I was interested in or should I say 
>> documentary, is not audio described on Hulu. It is on Amazon supposedly if 
>> you pay for it. But on Hulu, no audio description. Why the heck not?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can 
>>> subscribe to the list by sending a message to 
>>> adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which is a low traffic list. This list 
>>> consist of many blind users and audio description who watch tv by phone, tv 
>>> or computer.  There are many of us that can help.  However, Disney Plus is 
>>> combining Hulu Streaming with Disney Plus Streaming.  It maybe March before 
>>> people who have subscriptions with them, to know what is going to happen.  
>>> This list has a web link you can go to to see all described audio shows on 
>>> tv, and which network they are on with Audio Description.  Good luck.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
>>>> HI Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
>>>> accessing Hulu directly.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Anna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a 
>>>>> month. I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having 
>>>>> audio description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay 
>>>>> for it or rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. 
>>>>> I want to know how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t 
>>>>> find it anywhere. According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through 
>>>>> prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any ideas?
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-20 Thread David Grossoehme
Have you looked into this.  On their they have a comment of being 
combined in early 2024.  The admin of the adp web site that keeps the 
show listings up weekly sent an email out that it would be March before 
anything was known to the members of that service. Where did you get 
your information that it would be late 2024 by the way?


Dave


On 12/19/2023 4:46 PM, Dennis Long wrote:

They for now are separate subscriptions.  There is a beta but no app where they 
would be combined until late 2024.


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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten 
Subject: Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

As of December 7th all Hulu was placed on Disney Plus.  If in question
then call Disney and see if they can help you.  However, you will
receive more information from other blind tv users from the
adp-l...@acblists.org.  Hulu will be combined with Disney Plus
Streaming, as of earlier today, one other blind member of that list
emailed, that it will be probably March before a lot of action is taken
from them.  Hulu will not exist, beings they are part of Disney and are
being combined into the Disney Plus Streaming Service.

Dave


On 12/19/2023 12:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. According to 
Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-20 Thread David Grossoehme
Hulu is loosing their servicers to another stream as you will see if you 
would do a little research.  Hulu is being combined with Disney Plus as 
I tried to let you know in another message yesterday.  You are lucky to 
receive the audio description in any stream from the internet until our 
laws are changed.


Dave


On 12/20/2023 8:14 AM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

That is the frustrating thing about audio description.  Just because something 
is described with one streaming service does not mean that it will be described 
with another.  I myself think this should be changed.

The problem is with the licensing of the audio description.  It seems that the 
audio description is licensed separately than the movie or show itself. So a 
streaming service might be licensed to show the movie or tv show, but not 
licensed to include the audio description.

I think the audio description and its movie or tv show should come as one 
package.  If you license the movie or tv show, the audio description should 
automatically be included.  The same thing goes for something shown live with 
audio description, but then offered to watch on demand without audio 
description.  So again, something really needs to be done about audio 
description and how its distributed.

Chris Chaffin



On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Well, for whatever reason, the movie I was interested in or should I say 
documentary, is not audio described on Hulu. It is on Amazon supposedly if you 
pay for it. But on Hulu, no audio description. Why the heck not?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:

This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can subscribe to 
the list by sending a message to adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which is a 
low traffic list. This list consist of many blind users and audio description 
who watch tv by phone, tv or computer.  There are many of us that can help.  
However, Disney Plus is combining Hulu Streaming with Disney Plus Streaming.  
It maybe March before people who have subscriptions with them, to know what is 
going to happen.  This list has a web link you can go to to see all described 
audio shows on tv, and which network they are on with Audio Description.  Good 
luck.

Dave



On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

HI Mary,

Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
accessing Hulu directly.

Best,
Anna



On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. According to 
Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-20 Thread Chris Chaffin


That is the frustrating thing about audio description.  Just because something 
is described with one streaming service does not mean that it will be described 
with another.  I myself think this should be changed.

The problem is with the licensing of the audio description.  It seems that the 
audio description is licensed separately than the movie or show itself. So a 
streaming service might be licensed to show the movie or tv show, but not 
licensed to include the audio description.

I think the audio description and its movie or tv show should come as one 
package.  If you license the movie or tv show, the audio description should 
automatically be included.  The same thing goes for something shown live with 
audio description, but then offered to watch on demand without audio 
description.  So again, something really needs to be done about audio 
description and how its distributed. 

Chris Chaffin


> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:04 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, for whatever reason, the movie I was interested in or should I say 
> documentary, is not audio described on Hulu. It is on Amazon supposedly if 
> you pay for it. But on Hulu, no audio description. Why the heck not?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:
>> 
>> This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can subscribe 
>> to the list by sending a message to adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which 
>> is a low traffic list. This list consist of many blind users and audio 
>> description who watch tv by phone, tv or computer.  There are many of us 
>> that can help.  However, Disney Plus is combining Hulu Streaming with Disney 
>> Plus Streaming.  It maybe March before people who have subscriptions with 
>> them, to know what is going to happen.  This list has a web link you can go 
>> to to see all described audio shows on tv, and which network they are on 
>> with Audio Description.  Good luck.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
>>> HI Mary,
>>> 
>>> Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
>>> accessing Hulu directly.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a 
>>>> month. I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having 
>>>> audio description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for 
>>>> it or rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I 
>>>> want to know how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find 
>>>> it anywhere. According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. 
>>>> But I want it on Hulu. Any ideas?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-19 Thread Mary Otten
Well, for whatever reason, the movie I was interested in or should I say 
documentary, is not audio described on Hulu. It is on Amazon supposedly if you 
pay for it. But on Hulu, no audio description. Why the heck not?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:
> 
> This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can subscribe 
> to the list by sending a message to adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which is 
> a low traffic list. This list consist of many blind users and audio 
> description who watch tv by phone, tv or computer.  There are many of us that 
> can help.  However, Disney Plus is combining Hulu Streaming with Disney Plus 
> Streaming.  It maybe March before people who have subscriptions with them, to 
> know what is going to happen.  This list has a web link you can go to to see 
> all described audio shows on tv, and which network they are on with Audio 
> Description.  Good luck.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>> On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
>> HI Mary,
>> 
>> Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
>> accessing Hulu directly.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a 
>>> month. I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio 
>>> description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or 
>>> rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to 
>>> know how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find it 
>>> anywhere. According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But 
>>> I want it on Hulu. Any ideas?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-19 Thread Dennis Long
They for now are separate subscriptions.  There is a beta but no app where they 
would be combined until late 2024.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of David 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten 
Subject: Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

As of December 7th all Hulu was placed on Disney Plus.  If in question 
then call Disney and see if they can help you.  However, you will 
receive more information from other blind tv users from the 
adp-l...@acblists.org.  Hulu will be combined with Disney Plus 
Streaming, as of earlier today, one other blind member of that list 
emailed, that it will be probably March before a lot of action is taken 
from them.  Hulu will not exist, beings they are part of Disney and are 
being combined into the Disney Plus Streaming Service.

Dave


On 12/19/2023 12:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. 
> I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio 
> description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or 
> rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know 
> how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. 
> According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it 
> on Hulu. Any ideas?
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-19 Thread Dennis Long
That is not correct.  They will still have both apps.  I will find the article.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten 
Subject: Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

As of December 7th all Hulu was placed on Disney Plus.  If in question 
then call Disney and see if they can help you.  However, you will 
receive more information from other blind tv users from the 
adp-l...@acblists.org.  Hulu will be combined with Disney Plus 
Streaming, as of earlier today, one other blind member of that list 
emailed, that it will be probably March before a lot of action is taken 
from them.  Hulu will not exist, beings they are part of Disney and are 
being combined into the Disney Plus Streaming Service.

Dave


On 12/19/2023 12:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. 
> I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio 
> description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or 
> rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know 
> how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. 
> According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it 
> on Hulu. Any ideas?
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-19 Thread David Grossoehme
As of December 7th all Hulu was placed on Disney Plus.  If in question 
then call Disney and see if they can help you.  However, you will 
receive more information from other blind tv users from the 
adp-l...@acblists.org.  Hulu will be combined with Disney Plus 
Streaming, as of earlier today, one other blind member of that list 
emailed, that it will be probably March before a lot of action is taken 
from them.  Hulu will not exist, beings they are part of Disney and are 
being combined into the Disney Plus Streaming Service.


Dave


On 12/19/2023 12:35 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. According to 
Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone



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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-19 Thread David Grossoehme
This is being discussed on another list of blind people.  You can 
subscribe to the list by sending a message to 
adp-list+subscr...@acblists.org, which is a low traffic list. This list 
consist of many blind users and audio description who watch tv by phone, 
tv or computer.  There are many of us that can help.  However, Disney 
Plus is combining Hulu Streaming with Disney Plus Streaming.  It maybe 
March before people who have subscriptions with them, to know what is 
going to happen.  This list has a web link you can go to to see all 
described audio shows on tv, and which network they are on with Audio 
Description.  Good luck.


Dave


On 12/19/2023 1:20 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

HI Mary,

Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
accessing Hulu directly.

Best,
Anna



On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. According to 
Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

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Re: Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-19 Thread Anna Dresner
HI Mary,

Have you tried the Hulu app? It might be easier in an app where you're 
accessing Hulu directly.

Best,
Anna


> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. 
> I want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio 
> description, at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or 
> rent it. I have Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know 
> how to turn on audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. 
> According to Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it 
> on Hulu. Any ideas?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Audio description on Hulu through Apple TV app on the iPad

2023-12-19 Thread Mary Otten
I have recently subscribed to Hulu with ads for a year for a dollar a month. I 
want to watch the movie zero days, which is listed as having audio description, 
at least on Amazon prime, where I would have to pay for it or rent it. I have 
Hulu connected to the Apple TV app on my iPad. I want to know how to turn on 
audio description in this format. I can’t find it anywhere. According to 
Amazon, AD is available, at least through prime. But I want it on Hulu. Any 
ideas?
Mary

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread chrisjudge1967
I did on my older apple Tv. The one in the bedroom is the newer generation and 
I will check that one out tomorrow.

 

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

Sorry to hear this. Have you checked for any system updates? For the gentleman 
who asked about the operating system, I am using TVOS 17.0 21J 354.

Best,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi. I just tried it with the Arteck Bluetooth keyboard and it still isn’t 
working. If I hold alt and control I can navigate across with the arrow keys 
but I can’t move up and down. I don’t have a Logitech keyboard to try. I’ll try 
my apple magic keyboard later.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
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Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Chris,

Sorry to hear this. Have you checked for any system updates? For the gentleman 
who asked about the operating system, I am using TVOS 17.0 21J 354.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi. I just tried it with the Arteck Bluetooth keyboard and it still isn’t 
working. If I hold alt and control I can navigate across with the arrow keys 
but I can’t move up and down. I don’t have a Logitech keyboard to try. I’ll try 
my apple magic keyboard later.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
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Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread chrisjudge1967
Hi. I just tried it with the Arteck Bluetooth keyboard and it still isn’t 
working. If I hold alt and control I can navigate across with the arrow keys 
but I can’t move up and down. I don’t have a Logitech keyboard to try. I’ll try 
my apple magic keyboard later.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread chrisjudge1967
Ok thanks I’ll give it a try.

 

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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Re: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread Dave Grossoehme

What version of IOS are you using in the Apple TV for this to work?

Dave


On 10/24/2023 8:14 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:


Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. 
The arrow keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested 
with the Logitech K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.


Best,

Les

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *chrisjudge1...@gmail.com

*Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:00 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

*Chris Judge*

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Of *Les Kriegler

*Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and 
Apple. Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they 
will is an open question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their 
own keyboards which makes no sense to me. I will be writing Apple 
Accessibility about this and encourage you and others to do the same. 
I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work with their own product.


Best,

Les

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Of *chrisjudge1...@gmail.com

*Sent:* Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I 
sure hope someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Les Kriegler

*Sent:* Friday, October 20, 2023 2:36 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Cc:* macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4^th Generation for 
about two years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, 
that keyboard no longer works. The arrows yield no response and the 
Return key either does nothing or launches a different app that I am 
focused on. Since my keyboard was out of warranty, I decided to 
purchase the K780 which I know many use on this list. The same 
problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that keyboard. On 
my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says it 
is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am 
Apple TV 4^th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can 
suggest another compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.


Best,

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-21 Thread chrisjudge1967
Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-21 Thread chrisjudge1967
Hi. I’m using the Arteck Bluetooth keyboards on both my apple TVS and I’m 
having the same experience, so it isn’t just Logetech.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-21 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-20 Thread chrisjudge1967
I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

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Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-20 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about
two years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that
keyboard no longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key
either does nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since
my keyboard was out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know
many use on this list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are
present on that keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an
app. Logitech says it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody
successfully using am Apple TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?
If anyone can suggest another compatible keyboard, that would be
appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

2023-10-10 Thread Anouk Radix
the opening for two new, more energy efficient larger windows.
> Then the electrician spent 2 days cleaning up all the cables which were
> dangling everywhere and to re-route them to where the new plugs and
> switches needed to be.
>
> I then did drywall with a young guy who has a renovation/building company
> with his father in law, he is a good customer at my store and does smallerr
> jobs for cash, works for him and it saves me a bunch as well. I then had
> another 2-person team who did all the mudding, sanding and eventually
> painting. I also had the new engineered hickory hardwood flooring installed
> by a professional, it once again needed to be glued and stapled but before
> that he used a cement patch to apply to the subflooring to even out all the
> rough spots left by tearing out the old flooring and there is simply no way
> a blind person could do this as some things just require not just
> functioning eyeballs but also the required skill to do the job. All in all
> it took 3 weeks to do everything, I did install one of the new interior
> doors but had the young guy who did the drywalling help me with the other
> two just because it’s easier and faster. He also installed all the new door
> and baseboard trim since I got some very nice solid knoddy Alder trim which
> was expensive and I didn’t want to mess it up. Once again, if you look at
> the 12-foot or so length of a piece of baseboard trim, a sighted person who
> knows what they are doing will see where the wall may not be perfectly even
> and they can scribe these spots with a pencil and then use a grinder to
> remove what often is not much more than a millimeter or two of material
> over a 40 or 50 cm length along that piece to make it fit perfectly.
>
> I love renovating and building and in particular anything to do with wood,
> but I kmnow my limitations as well and I wanted this job done in the 3
> extra weeks my wife stayed in the Philippines to visit her family so I
> didn’t have 6 months to try and do it myself, after all, I make my money
> running a retail business and not a building contracting business so any
> time I can spend on stuff like this is evenings and Sundays and maybe the
> odd day I take off from work at my store.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Anouk Radix
> *Sent:* Monday, October 9, 2023 4:05 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: installing apple tv without a tv?
>
>
>
> Hi Sieghard thanks for that detailed installation.
>
> I would be interested to know how you find the sound of your
> tvsetup(arc+2xera300+sub) for just music listening with airplay 2?
>
> As I said I now have 2 era300 speakers (my first sonos speakers, love the
> sonos app on ios and on pc! would be nice though if it supported google
> cast as well as a fer more bluetooth codecs though). But am thinking of
> also getting the arc and sub.  Which is probbably totally overkill in my
> situation.
>
> but still: is it any good for just music listening through airplay?
>
> Thanks in advance for any information and I admire your sills to be able
> to renovate your own home.
>
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
>
>
> Op ma 9 okt 2023 om 01:26 schreef Sieghard Weitzel :
>
> Hello Anouk,
>
>
>
> No problem, always happy to discuss Sonos. I have actually downsized my
> Sonos system considerably. I used to have 3 stereo pairs of Sonos One
> speakers, a set of Sonos One SL which were my rear speakers in a setup with
> at first a Sonos Playbar and Gen 1 Sub and later with an Arc and Gen 3 Sub.
>
> We also had a stereo pair of Play 5 in the bedroom, note these were the
> older, second generation Play 5 speakers which were replaced by the Sonos
> Five.
>
> The Sonos One speakers I had set up as a stereo pair in the kitchen,
> another stereo pair in my woodworking shop and the third was and actually
> still is a stereo pair in our bathroom.
>
> The first change was that we did a pretty major renovation to the upstairs
> of our house which consisted of a living room, kitchen, a short hallway, a
> guest bedroom, another smaller bedroom which I used as office and the
> slightly larger but still not very large master bedroom, and of course also
> a bathroom.
>
> I started out by ripping out all interior walls from the living room and
> hallway to the guest bedroom as well as from the guest bedroom to the
> office and from the office to the master bedroom.
>
> This left us with one large, slightly L-shaped area for the entire half of
> the upstairs which was not stairs, kitchen and bathroom, a little more than
> 700 square feet as the entire house has a footprint of just under 1100
> square feet.
>
> We then partitioned off a new, larger master bedroom a

RE: installing apple tv without a tv?

2023-10-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
 door and baseboard trim since I got some very nice 
solid knoddy Alder trim which was expensive and I didn’t want to mess it up. 
Once again, if you look at the 12-foot or so length of a piece of baseboard 
trim, a sighted person who knows what they are doing will see where the wall 
may not be perfectly even and they can scribe these spots with a pencil and 
then use a grinder to remove what often is not much more than a millimeter or 
two of material over a 40 or 50 cm length along that piece to make it fit 
perfectly.
I love renovating and building and in particular anything to do with wood, but 
I kmnow my limitations as well and I wanted this job done in the 3 extra weeks 
my wife stayed in the Philippines to visit her family so I didn’t have 6 months 
to try and do it myself, after all, I make my money running a retail business 
and not a building contracting business so any time I can spend on stuff like 
this is evenings and Sundays and maybe the odd day I take off from work at my 
store.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 4:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

Hi Sieghard thanks for that detailed installation.
I would be interested to know how you find the sound of your 
tvsetup(arc+2xera300+sub) for just music listening with airplay 2?
As I said I now have 2 era300 speakers (my first sonos speakers, love the sonos 
app on ios and on pc! would be nice though if it supported google cast as well 
as a fer more bluetooth codecs though). But am thinking of also getting the arc 
and sub.  Which is probbably totally overkill in my situation.
but still: is it any good for just music listening through airplay?
Thanks in advance for any information and I admire your sills to be able to 
renovate your own home.
Greetings, Anouk,

Op ma 9 okt 2023 om 01:26 schreef Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>:
Hello Anouk,

No problem, always happy to discuss Sonos. I have actually downsized my Sonos 
system considerably. I used to have 3 stereo pairs of Sonos One speakers, a set 
of Sonos One SL which were my rear speakers in a setup with at first a Sonos 
Playbar and Gen 1 Sub and later with an Arc and Gen 3 Sub.
We also had a stereo pair of Play 5 in the bedroom, note these were the older, 
second generation Play 5 speakers which were replaced by the Sonos Five.
The Sonos One speakers I had set up as a stereo pair in the kitchen, another 
stereo pair in my woodworking shop and the third was and actually still is a 
stereo pair in our bathroom.
The first change was that we did a pretty major renovation to the upstairs of 
our house which consisted of a living room, kitchen, a short hallway, a guest 
bedroom, another smaller bedroom which I used as office and the slightly larger 
but still not very large master bedroom, and of course also a bathroom.
I started out by ripping out all interior walls from the living room and 
hallway to the guest bedroom as well as from the guest bedroom to the office 
and from the office to the master bedroom.
This left us with one large, slightly L-shaped area for the entire half of the 
upstairs which was not stairs, kitchen and bathroom, a little more than 700 
square feet as the entire house has a footprint of just under 1100 square feet.
We then partitioned off a new, larger master bedroom across the entire width of 
the house towards the backyard, still only about 11 feet wide, but 25 feet 
across. One one end I divided off about 4 feet which is now a walk-in clothet.
The new living room where we now use the part towards the front of the house as 
a dining area, is now about 14 feet wide by 30 feet long and on the other end 
towards the bedroom wall we set up our couches and a new 8-foot long 
custom-built entertainment unit. This has our 55-inch LG OLED TV mounted on a 
wall-mount in the centre with the middle of the screen at about head height 
when  you sit on the couch as it should be. This means it’s mounted a few 
inches higher than the Sonos Arc sound bar which sits in front of the Tv. 
Wall-mounted to each side of the main couch where we usually sit to watch TV is 
a set of Era 300’s as rear speakers and just to the right when you face the TV 
and at the end of the entertainment unit is the Sonos Sub sitting against the 
wall.
As I built an entirely new wall between the bedroom and living room, I planned 
for a set of in-wall speakers which are connected to a Sonos Amp for the 
bedroom. The are pretty much perfectly situated across from the bed and with th 
ebed right in between the speakers and of course before the drywall was 
installed I installed the speaker wire to the walk-in clothet where the Sonos 
Amp sits on a high shelf with an outlet right beside it.
In the bathroom we still have a wall-mounted stereo pair of Sonos One speakers.
As I don’t do as much woodworking any more as I used to do , I didn’t feel the 
need to have a stereo pair of Sonos One speak

Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

2023-10-09 Thread Anouk Radix
 a single Sonos Roam which currently sits on it’s magnetic
> charging base in the bedroom, but it’s probably the one Sonos product I use
> the least so I’ll probably sell it as well.
>
> This means we are down to the following 4 zones/rooms:
>
> Living room: Sonos Arc, set of Era 300 and Sonos Sub with the Arc being
> connected to the EARC HDMI port of our LG 55-Inch C2 OLED TV
>
> Bedroom: Sonos Amp connected to a somewhat higher-end set of Paradigm E80
> in-wall speakers and in time I will probably add a Sub Mini to that room
>
> Bathroom: stereo pair of Sonos Ones
>
> Kitchen as well as my shop and outside: a stereo pair of Sonos Move 2
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Anouk Radix
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 8, 2023 7:03 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: installing apple tv without a tv?
>
>
>
> Hi, thanks fo ryour replies! Yes I have two era300s now but am planning to
> expand my system to the setup that you mentioned in your first message
> (2xera300+sub+arc). After some more thinking I think that this indeed might
> not work as I want it too because of the fact that you would stream
> video+audio from the apple tv (hope jaws reads this better now) to the arc
> even if I use an earc cable.
>
> Thanks for mentioning the extractor have been thinking about this as well.
> But of course this would get really expensive pretty fast.
>
> Just out of curiosity what sonos setup are you running at this time? I
> remember talking to you on this list about sonos a few years ago and you
> mentioning htat you wanted to run two play fives.
>
> Thanks again for the help and sorry for not being clear the first time
> around. Sometimes things are clear in my head but when i have to write it
> down...
>
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
>
>
> Op zo 8 okt 2023 om 08:55 schreef Sieghard Weitzel :
>
> And I just re-read your message and realized you asked specifically about
> using an Apple TV connected directly to Sonos.
>
> Sorry for missing it the first time, you spelled “appletv” as one single
> word and hearing it with Jaws it didn’t sound much like “Apple TV”.
>
> Anyways, to my knowledge the Apple TV’s HDMI output has to be connected to
> a TV; I tried connecting it once to my Sonos Arc and I got nothing.
>
> Maybe there are settings you can change to make this work, I just never
> bothered a lot because my wife is sighted so we have a fairly new LG OLED
> smart TV and I never watch/listen to a movie by myself; we do enjoy some
> movies together, but if I am by myself I’ll prefer a good audio book any
> day.
>
> You may want to call Sonos support and ask if there is a work-around,
> potentially you could get it to work using one of these “Hdfury Arcana”
> adapters, they aren’t cheap, but here is the description from their website
> followed by the link:
>
>
>
> WORLD’S FIRST eARC adapter that allows FULL AUDIO up to Dolby Atmos over
> TrueHD from ANY external HDMI source to ANY eARC sound system
>
> Perfect solution for SONOS Arc and ANY eARC AVR, soundbar or headphones.
>
>
>
> In other words, if you have a Sonos Arc which I can’t quite figure out
> from your message, this adapter would probably allow you to connect your
> Apple TV which would be considered the “external HDMI source” directly to
> your Sonos Arc, but once again, I don’t have one of these gadgets so I
> can’t guaranty it will work. Here is the link to their website:
>
>
>
> Hdfury Arcana <https://www.hdfury.eu/shop/hdfury-arcana/>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Anouk Radix
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 7, 2023 10:10 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* installing apple tv without a tv?
>
>
>
> Hi this might sound like a strange question. I have 2 era300s now from
> sonos and want to make this into a surround system that I then want to use
> with an appletv to stream netflix/disney plus. Since I live alone I dont
> need a tv. Is it possible to install the appletv if I connect it via hdmi
> to the sonos arc/then use the remote for navigation? Or could i use my
> iphone for installing it?
>
> Thanks in advance for any info
>
> Greetings, Anoukk,
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RE: installing apple tv without a tv?

2023-10-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Anouk,

No problem, always happy to discuss Sonos. I have actually downsized my Sonos 
system considerably. I used to have 3 stereo pairs of Sonos One speakers, a set 
of Sonos One SL which were my rear speakers in a setup with at first a Sonos 
Playbar and Gen 1 Sub and later with an Arc and Gen 3 Sub.
We also had a stereo pair of Play 5 in the bedroom, note these were the older, 
second generation Play 5 speakers which were replaced by the Sonos Five.
The Sonos One speakers I had set up as a stereo pair in the kitchen, another 
stereo pair in my woodworking shop and the third was and actually still is a 
stereo pair in our bathroom.
The first change was that we did a pretty major renovation to the upstairs of 
our house which consisted of a living room, kitchen, a short hallway, a guest 
bedroom, another smaller bedroom which I used as office and the slightly larger 
but still not very large master bedroom, and of course also a bathroom.
I started out by ripping out all interior walls from the living room and 
hallway to the guest bedroom as well as from the guest bedroom to the office 
and from the office to the master bedroom.
This left us with one large, slightly L-shaped area for the entire half of the 
upstairs which was not stairs, kitchen and bathroom, a little more than 700 
square feet as the entire house has a footprint of just under 1100 square feet.
We then partitioned off a new, larger master bedroom across the entire width of 
the house towards the backyard, still only about 11 feet wide, but 25 feet 
across. One one end I divided off about 4 feet which is now a walk-in clothet.
The new living room where we now use the part towards the front of the house as 
a dining area, is now about 14 feet wide by 30 feet long and on the other end 
towards the bedroom wall we set up our couches and a new 8-foot long 
custom-built entertainment unit. This has our 55-inch LG OLED TV mounted on a 
wall-mount in the centre with the middle of the screen at about head height 
when  you sit on the couch as it should be. This means it’s mounted a few 
inches higher than the Sonos Arc sound bar which sits in front of the Tv. 
Wall-mounted to each side of the main couch where we usually sit to watch TV is 
a set of Era 300’s as rear speakers and just to the right when you face the TV 
and at the end of the entertainment unit is the Sonos Sub sitting against the 
wall.
As I built an entirely new wall between the bedroom and living room, I planned 
for a set of in-wall speakers which are connected to a Sonos Amp for the 
bedroom. The are pretty much perfectly situated across from the bed and with th 
ebed right in between the speakers and of course before the drywall was 
installed I installed the speaker wire to the walk-in clothet where the Sonos 
Amp sits on a high shelf with an outlet right beside it.
In the bathroom we still have a wall-mounted stereo pair of Sonos One speakers.
As I don’t do as much woodworking any more as I used to do , I didn’t feel the 
need to have a stereo pair of Sonos One speakers in my shop, we didn’t need the 
stereo pair of Play 5 speakers any more which were in our bedroom, the Sonos 
One SL stereo pair we had as rear speakers got replaced with the Era 300’s and 
in the kitchen I felt we didn’t need a permanent stereo pair of Sonos Ones, 
either. So I ended up selling the two pairs of Sonos One and the pair of Sonos 
One SL as well as my stereo pair of Play 5.
I always had a Sonos Move and added a second one setting them up as a stereo 
pair in the kitchen and as they are battery operated speakers, this would of 
course allow me to also bring them to my workshop or outside if I wanted.
I recently bought a new set of the Sonos Move 2 and I’ll probably sell my set 
of the original Moves, one is from when they first came out and the other I 
only bought last February or March so it’s only just over half a year old.
I also have a single Sonos Roam which currently sits on it’s magnetic charging 
base in the bedroom, but it’s probably the one Sonos product I use the least so 
I’ll probably sell it as well.
This means we are down to the following 4 zones/rooms:
Living room: Sonos Arc, set of Era 300 and Sonos Sub with the Arc being 
connected to the EARC HDMI port of our LG 55-Inch C2 OLED TV
Bedroom: Sonos Amp connected to a somewhat higher-end set of Paradigm E80 
in-wall speakers and in time I will probably add a Sub Mini to that room
Bathroom: stereo pair of Sonos Ones
Kitchen as well as my shop and outside: a stereo pair of Sonos Move 2

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

Hi, thanks fo ryour replies! Yes I have two era300s now but am planning to 
expand my system to the setup that you mentioned in your first message 
(2xera300+sub+arc). After some more thinking I think that this indeed might not 
work as I want it too

Re: installing apple tv without a tv?

2023-10-08 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi, thanks fo ryour replies! Yes I have two era300s now but am planning to
expand my system to the setup that you mentioned in your first message
(2xera300+sub+arc). After some more thinking I think that this indeed might
not work as I want it too because of the fact that you would stream
video+audio from the apple tv (hope jaws reads this better now) to the arc
even if I use an earc cable.
Thanks for mentioning the extractor have been thinking about this as well.
But of course this would get really expensive pretty fast.
Just out of curiosity what sonos setup are you running at this time? I
remember talking to you on this list about sonos a few years ago and you
mentioning htat you wanted to run two play fives.
Thanks again for the help and sorry for not being clear the first time
around. Sometimes things are clear in my head but when i have to write it
down...
Greetings, Anouk,

Op zo 8 okt 2023 om 08:55 schreef Sieghard Weitzel :

> And I just re-read your message and realized you asked specifically about
> using an Apple TV connected directly to Sonos.
>
> Sorry for missing it the first time, you spelled “appletv” as one single
> word and hearing it with Jaws it didn’t sound much like “Apple TV”.
>
> Anyways, to my knowledge the Apple TV’s HDMI output has to be connected to
> a TV; I tried connecting it once to my Sonos Arc and I got nothing.
>
> Maybe there are settings you can change to make this work, I just never
> bothered a lot because my wife is sighted so we have a fairly new LG OLED
> smart TV and I never watch/listen to a movie by myself; we do enjoy some
> movies together, but if I am by myself I’ll prefer a good audio book any
> day.
>
> You may want to call Sonos support and ask if there is a work-around,
> potentially you could get it to work using one of these “Hdfury Arcana”
> adapters, they aren’t cheap, but here is the description from their website
> followed by the link:
>
>
>
> WORLD’S FIRST eARC adapter that allows FULL AUDIO up to Dolby Atmos over
> TrueHD from ANY external HDMI source to ANY eARC sound system
>
> Perfect solution for SONOS Arc and ANY eARC AVR, soundbar or headphones.
>
>
>
> In other words, if you have a Sonos Arc which I can’t quite figure out
> from your message, this adapter would probably allow you to connect your
> Apple TV which would be considered the “external HDMI source” directly to
> your Sonos Arc, but once again, I don’t have one of these gadgets so I
> can’t guaranty it will work. Here is the link to their website:
>
>
>
> Hdfury Arcana <https://www.hdfury.eu/shop/hdfury-arcana/>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Anouk Radix
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 7, 2023 10:10 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* installing apple tv without a tv?
>
>
>
> Hi this might sound like a strange question. I have 2 era300s now from
> sonos and want to make this into a surround system that I then want to use
> with an appletv to stream netflix/disney plus. Since I live alone I dont
> need a tv. Is it possible to install the appletv if I connect it via hdmi
> to the sonos arc/then use the remote for navigation? Or could i use my
> iphone for installing it?
>
> Thanks in advance for any info
>
> Greetings, Anoukk,
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RE: installing apple tv without a tv?

2023-10-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And I just re-read your message and realized you asked specifically about using 
an Apple TV connected directly to Sonos.
Sorry for missing it the first time, you spelled “appletv” as one single word 
and hearing it with Jaws it didn’t sound much like “Apple TV”.
Anyways, to my knowledge the Apple TV’s HDMI output has to be connected to a 
TV; I tried connecting it once to my Sonos Arc and I got nothing.
Maybe there are settings you can change to make this work, I just never 
bothered a lot because my wife is sighted so we have a fairly new LG OLED smart 
TV and I never watch/listen to a movie by myself; we do enjoy some movies 
together, but if I am by myself I’ll prefer a good audio book any day.
You may want to call Sonos support and ask if there is a work-around, 
potentially you could get it to work using one of these “Hdfury Arcana” 
adapters, they aren’t cheap, but here is the description from their website 
followed by the link:

WORLD’S FIRST eARC adapter that allows FULL AUDIO up to Dolby Atmos over TrueHD 
from ANY external HDMI source to ANY eARC sound system
Perfect solution for SONOS Arc and ANY eARC AVR, soundbar or headphones.

In other words, if you have a Sonos Arc which I can’t quite figure out from 
your message, this adapter would probably allow you to connect your Apple TV 
which would be considered the “external HDMI source” directly to your Sonos 
Arc, but once again, I don’t have one of these gadgets so I can’t guaranty it 
will work. Here is the link to their website:

Hdfury Arcana<https://www.hdfury.eu/shop/hdfury-arcana/>

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2023 10:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: installing apple tv without a tv?

Hi this might sound like a strange question. I have 2 era300s now from sonos 
and want to make this into a surround system that I then want to use with an 
appletv to stream netflix/disney plus. Since I live alone I dont need a tv. Is 
it possible to install the appletv if I connect it via hdmi to the sonos 
arc/then use the remote for navigation? Or could i use my iphone for installing 
it?
Thanks in advance for any info
Greetings, Anoukk,
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RE: installing apple tv without a tv?

2023-10-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
First of all, two Era 300 speakers will not generate a “surround” system. You 
will get stereo sound with some spacial music features, but for a true surround 
system you need at least a Sonos Arc (or Beam 2) soundbar and a set of rear 
speakers and for that the Era 300 will give you the best possible sound if you 
are able to stream Dolby Atmos content. Ideally you would have at least one 
Sonos Sub as part of that system as well, the setup can support up to two Sonos 
Subs.
Now, as for streaming Netflix and Disney Plus there is only one option as far 
as I know if you don’t own either a smart TV or an Apple TV connected to a TV 
which in turn is again connected to a Dolby Atmos capable Sonos sound bar via 
an EARC port (that stands for enhanced audio return channel),.. That option 
would be to play your movie on your iPhone or of course on an iPad and to then 
send it to your Era 300 speakers via Airplay. I guess considering that the Era 
300 does have a USB-C input which requires a special adapter from Sonos, you 
could potentially connect your iPhone or an iPad to them with a cable although 
I am not sure what if any advantages that would give you.
The Sonos app itself give you access to the largest collection of free and paid 
music services I have seen in such platforms, but there is no native way to 
stream Netflix or Disney Plus or even YouTube, anything which involves video 
has to come from a TV and a connected Sonos sound bar.
Having said all this listening to a movie which you sent to your set of Era 300 
speakers via Airplay would still sound very nice, but you would not get a true 
surround sound let alone Dolby Atmos experience.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anouk 
Radix
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2023 10:10 PM
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Subject: installing apple tv without a tv?

Hi this might sound like a strange question. I have 2 era300s now from sonos 
and want to make this into a surround system that I then want to use with an 
appletv to stream netflix/disney plus. Since I live alone I dont need a tv. Is 
it possible to install the appletv if I connect it via hdmi to the sonos 
arc/then use the remote for navigation? Or could i use my iphone for installing 
it?
Thanks in advance for any info
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installing apple tv without a tv?

2023-10-07 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi this might sound like a strange question. I have 2 era300s now from
sonos and want to make this into a surround system that I then want to use
with an appletv to stream netflix/disney plus. Since I live alone I dont
need a tv. Is it possible to install the appletv if I connect it via hdmi
to the sonos arc/then use the remote for navigation? Or could i use my
iphone for installing it?
Thanks in advance for any info
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VO volume in Apple TV

2023-09-30 Thread agent086b
Hi all,
since updating to TV17 I have noticed the VO volume is quite soft.
If increase the volume it makes the TV volume very loud.
I can’t seem to get the volume to work separately to the TV like on the phone.
Any ideas?
Thanks
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Slightly Off Topic regarding deleting an app on the Apple TV

2023-09-16 Thread Debbie Downey
Hello,

 

Sorry if this isn't exactly iPhone related; just wondering if anyone knows
how to delete an app from the Apple TV 4K 2nd generation using Voiceover?? I
don't want to offload an app or save it in the library but completely delete
it.

 

Thank you!

 

Debbie

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RE: Apple TV Remote

2023-03-14 Thread Carolyn
You go to Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, and then Speech. HTH. 

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You can increase the speech in the settings, under accessibility, and then 
voice over.
Shirley

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The other day it gave me a low battery signal and the speech slowed way down.  
So I put it on a charge, and it seems okay today but the speech is still slow.  
Is there a way to increase the speech speed?It also seems to be very sensitive 
and I am not sure I like that but I'm dealing with it.


Patti


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RE: Apple TV Remote

2023-03-14 Thread manyofus1...@outlook.com
You can increase the speech in the settings, under accessibility, and then 
voice over.
Shirley

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The other day it gave me a low battery signal and the speech slowed way down.  
So I put it on a charge, and it seems okay today but the speech is still slow.  
Is there a way to increase the speech speed?It also seems to be very sensitive 
and I am not sure I like that but I'm dealing with it.


Patti


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Apple TV Remote

2023-03-14 Thread Patti Johnson
The other day it gave me a low battery signal and the speech slowed way 
down.  So I put it on a charge, and it seems okay today but the speech 
is still slow.  Is there a way to increase the speech speed?It also 
seems to be very sensitive and I am not sure I like that but I'm dealing 
with it.



Patti


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RE: The New Apple TV

2022-12-28 Thread chrisjudge1967
Hi. Did you not receive a charging cable with your apple TV? I know Apple 
stopped including the charging blocks a while ago, have they now stopped 
including cables as well?

Chris Judge


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Hello Patti,

I have not done any research on the latest model of the Apple TV but I suspect 
that the difference in the size of the port, located  on the bottom of the Siri 
remote is because it is a USBC port and not a Lightening port.

Apple, slowly but surely is switching from Lightening to USBC because USBC is 
more compatible on a global stage.

You will have to purchase a new cable in order to charge your new Siri remote.

While I applaud Apple's adoption of a more universal standard, given my, 
already sizable investment in the Apple Orchard, switching from Lightening to 
USBC will be a bit costly.

Fortunately for me, as I use an Android phone, I already own a few USBC 
adaptors and cables.

As for how Apple packages the Apple TV?  You are not missing anything.  That is 
just the way it is.

Mark

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Subject: The New Apple TV

Hello.  I got the new Apple tv for Christmas.  I had a friend over to help me 
wit the hook up.   We didn't find and HDMI cable and the remote is not the same 
as the older Apple tv I have, its charge port is bigger, so I can't use my 
phone charger to charge it up.

I opened the box and fount at the bottom ov it two boxes and one is literally 
glued to the bottom of the box everything came in, why would they do that?

Pardon me if I am misssing something here, but is there something I need to 
know that makes the 4K Apple tv setup and remote different than the older model?

This one has the button on the right of the remote, and I am assuming that is 
the siri button?

What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Patti

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Re: The New Apple TV

2022-12-27 Thread Pete Nalda
If it is, in fact, an Apple TV 4K, yes, that button on the right is Siri.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Dec 27, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> As for the charging port it is USB-C which is fantastic and I can't wait 
> until next year's iPhone finally will also have a USB-C port; it will be the 
> standard for many, many years to come.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Patti 
> Johnson
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 11:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The New Apple TV
> 
> Hello.  I got the new Apple tv for Christmas.  I had a friend over to help me 
> wit the hook up.   We didn't find and HDMI cable and the remote is not the 
> same as the older Apple tv I have, its charge port is bigger, so I can't use 
> my phone charger to charge it up.
> 
> I opened the box and fount at the bottom ov it two boxes and one is literally 
> glued to the bottom of the box everything came in, why would they do that?
> 
> Pardon me if I am misssing something here, but is there something I need to 
> know that makes the 4K Apple tv setup and remote different than the older 
> model?
> 
> This one has the button on the right of the remote, and I am assuming that is 
> the siri button?
> 
> What am I missing here?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Patti
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RE: The New Apple TV

2022-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
For many people it won't really be an investment since USB-C is being adopted 
more and more as the universal standard for connectivity and charging and it's 
not like a wall charger or two and a few cables are going to break the bank.

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Hello Patti,

I have not done any research on the latest model of the Apple TV but I suspect 
that the difference in the size of the port, located  on the bottom of the Siri 
remote is because it is a USBC port and not a Lightening port.

Apple, slowly but surely is switching from Lightening to USBC because USBC is 
more compatible on a global stage.

You will have to purchase a new cable in order to charge your new Siri remote.

While I applaud Apple's adoption of a more universal standard, given my, 
already sizable investment in the Apple Orchard, switching from Lightening to 
USBC will be a bit costly.

Fortunately for me, as I use an Android phone, I already own a few USBC 
adaptors and cables.

As for how Apple packages the Apple TV?  You are not missing anything.  That is 
just the way it is.

Mark

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Subject: The New Apple TV

Hello.  I got the new Apple tv for Christmas.  I had a friend over to help me 
wit the hook up.   We didn't find and HDMI cable and the remote is not the same 
as the older Apple tv I have, its charge port is bigger, so I can't use my 
phone charger to charge it up.

I opened the box and fount at the bottom ov it two boxes and one is literally 
glued to the bottom of the box everything came in, why would they do that?

Pardon me if I am misssing something here, but is there something I need to 
know that makes the 4K Apple tv setup and remote different than the older model?

This one has the button on the right of the remote, and I am assuming that is 
the siri button?

What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Patti

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RE: The New Apple TV

2022-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
As for the charging port it is USB-C which is fantastic and I can't wait until 
next year's iPhone finally will also have a USB-C port; it will be the standard 
for many, many years to come.

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Subject: The New Apple TV

Hello.  I got the new Apple tv for Christmas.  I had a friend over to help me 
wit the hook up.   We didn't find and HDMI cable and the remote is not the same 
as the older Apple tv I have, its charge port is bigger, so I can't use my 
phone charger to charge it up.

I opened the box and fount at the bottom ov it two boxes and one is literally 
glued to the bottom of the box everything came in, why would they do that?

Pardon me if I am misssing something here, but is there something I need to 
know that makes the 4K Apple tv setup and remote different than the older model?

This one has the button on the right of the remote, and I am assuming that is 
the siri button?

What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Patti

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RE: The New Apple TV

2022-12-26 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Patti,

I have not done any research on the latest model of the Apple TV but I suspect 
that the difference in the size of the port, located  on the bottom of the Siri 
remote is because it is a USBC port and not a Lightening port.

Apple, slowly but surely is switching from Lightening to USBC because USBC is 
more compatible on a global stage.

You will have to purchase a new cable in order to charge your new Siri remote.

While I applaud Apple's adoption of a more universal standard, given my, 
already sizable investment in the Apple Orchard, switching from Lightening to 
USBC will be a bit costly.

Fortunately for me, as I use an Android phone, I already own a few USBC 
adaptors and cables.

As for how Apple packages the Apple TV?  You are not missing anything.  That is 
just the way it is.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Patti 
Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2022 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The New Apple TV

Hello.  I got the new Apple tv for Christmas.  I had a friend over to help me 
wit the hook up.   We didn't find and HDMI cable and the remote is not the same 
as the older Apple tv I have, its charge port is bigger, so I can't use my 
phone charger to charge it up.

I opened the box and fount at the bottom ov it two boxes and one is literally 
glued to the bottom of the box everything came in, why would they do that?

Pardon me if I am misssing something here, but is there something I need to 
know that makes the 4K Apple tv setup and remote different than the older model?

This one has the button on the right of the remote, and I am assuming that is 
the siri button?

What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Patti

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The New Apple TV

2022-12-26 Thread Patti Johnson
Hello.  I got the new Apple tv for Christmas.  I had a friend over to 
help me wit the hook up.   We didn't find and HDMI cable and the remote 
is not the same as the older Apple tv I have, its charge port is bigger, 
so I can't use my phone charger to charge it up.


I opened the box and fount at the bottom ov it two boxes and one is 
literally glued to the bottom of the box everything came in, why would 
they do that?


Pardon me if I am misssing something here, but is there something I need 
to know that makes the 4K Apple tv setup and remote different than the 
older model?


This one has the button on the right of the remote, and I am assuming 
that is the siri button?


What am I missing here?

Thanks.

Patti

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layout of apple remote for 4th gen apple TV

2022-12-24 Thread Dennis Long
Hi, does anyone have a layout they can post for the Apple tv remote?  They
have the latest TV.  They are having trouble with the layout of the remote.
I would appreciate the help.

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RE: Is Apple TV the best device to control YouTube TV?

2022-12-15 Thread M. Taylor
Hello David,

Just to be clear, YouTube / YouTube Premium  is a completely different product 
/ service than YouTube TV.

As to your question, when viewing a YouTube video, I usually count to 5, after 
the video starts, then single-finger swipe to the right, once, in order to land 
on the "this ad can now be skipped", button.  As of today, at least, this 
method has proven to be reliable.

Mark

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Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 5:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Is Apple TV the best device to control YouTube TV?

On a related note, what's quickest way to ditch youtube ads on iOS or iPad OS? 
The button for skipping ads moves around a lot. Yes, I could pay for youtube 
premium, but I usually only click 2 or 3 channels regularly so it's kind of not 
worth the $11 especially since I'd rather support the creators without paying 
google where I can. Thank you, I'm sure I missed this in some other thread and 
searching the archive for this may not be helpful as the youtube app gets 
updated practically daily.

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RE: Is Apple TV the best device to control YouTube TV?

2022-12-15 Thread M. Taylor
Hello,

Do not be afraid of cancelling your cable service.

I have been using YouTube TV since 2020 and I can tell you that the VoiceOver 
accessibility just keeps getting better and better on Apple TV.  

I also enjoy my YouTube TV service on my iPad whenever I travel and the 
experience is extremely VoiceOver accessible.  

In fact, I will go so far as to say that if there is an area of the YouTube TV 
service that is not VoiceOver accessible, I have yet to discover it on either 
my Apple TV or iPad.

Before you subscribe, however, be certain to go to tv.youtube.com to make 
certain that the channels you want are on offer.

Also, please know that you can always download the various apps for many 
channels that may not be currently offered on YouTube TV. 

Mark



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Is Apple TV  the best device to control YouTube TV. Can voice be used to easily 
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points that I should consider in the midst of cancelling my cable  service and 
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RE: Is Apple TV the best device to control YouTube TV?

2022-12-15 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I just did this myself, and in fact, I cut the cord just this past Tuesday. I 
don't have an Apple TV though. I use YouTube TV on my iPhone and I have a Sony 
TV which runs Google TV. Not sure if this helps you at all.

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Is Apple TV the best device to control YouTube TV?

2022-12-15 Thread crcarlson2000
Is Apple TV  the best device to control YouTube TV. Can voice be used to
easily change channels on the live TV tab. Should I consider another device?
Any other points that I should consider in the midst of cancelling my cable
service and moving to the YouTube alternative?

 

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RE: apple tv question

2022-12-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Jed,

I was just wondering what your solution was to your dilemma.  Are you able to 
access the Apple TV app on your new Smart TV? Or are you continuing to use your 
physical Apple TV?  If you are using the Apple TV app on your Smart TV, which 
model television are you using?

Just curious.

I hope you are well and are enjoying your new television.

Mark

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Subject: apple tv question

Hey guys,
Hope all is well.  Hoping some of you can help.  I have a super old apple tv.
Now, I ahve a new smart tv.  Do I need a physical apple tv any more, or is 
there just an app I would install?
I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to apple tv.  1 of the things I have 
watched a lot os pluto tv.  Would I need the pluto tv app, or would I just 
access it all through the apple tv app?  If someone can help, that would be 
awesome.

Cheers,

Jed

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RE: apple tv question

2022-12-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Jed, unless you list the exact model of smart TV you have nobody can tell you 
what you need. The fact is that most smart TV's have apps for the major 
streaming services preinstalled, e.g. Netflix, Disney Plus, Apple TV, Prime 
Video etc. Furthermore most smart TV's have their own app store where you can 
download additional apps if they are available for the platform your TV uses. 
The most common ones would be Roku, Web OS (that is LG) and Google TV (Sony and 
many others). Also most new smart TV's have some sort of screenreader built in, 
but how well it works you would have to try and I would venture a claim which 
is that most likely the Apple TV box with Voiceover probably is still the best 
experience for a blind person.
We have one of the higher-end LG OLED TV's, the C-series although ours is from 
2 years ago and there are new ones this year, but we also still have just 
bought a new Applt TV 4K, also the one which was released this year. Partly we 
also do this because it acts as a hub for Apple Home Kit and if you buy the 128 
Gb version which I believe is $149.99 in the US you get a device which also has 
an ethernet port and is capable of thread networking which may or may not 
become important in the years to come. This is a protocol used by the new 
"Matter" smart home standard and Apple, Google and I believe Amazon have all 
signed on and said they will support it. Basically if you have a thread network 
capable device such as an Apple TV or a router (many of the new routers are 
also thread network enabled) then connected home devices can talk directly to 
each other without having to go out over WiFi.
This is of course just a simple explanation, if you want to know more you can 
Google it as there are many articles available about Matter and thread 
networking.
Also, if you, for example, have a Sonos Arc which can play Dolby Atmos and you 
want to take advantage of Apple Music songs which are encoded for Dolby Atmos 
(special audio) you have to play them on your Apple TV which is connected to 
the Sonos Arc soundbar via the TV. You can play Apple Music directly from the 
Sonos app, but at least at this point you don't get special audio that way.

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Subject: apple tv question

Hey guys,
Hope all is well.  Hoping some of you can help.  I have a super old apple tv.
Now, I ahve a new smart tv.  Do I need a physical apple tv any more, or is 
there just an app I would install?
I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to apple tv.  1 of the things I have 
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awesome.

Cheers,

Jed

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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-02 Thread Feliciano Godoy
I don’t know the technicalities, but based on my research, maybe the arc input 
on the television does the conversion where it strips the video from the TV. I 
just started learning on this from this thread and research.

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On Dec 2, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


If ARC only wants audio then why does the Sonos app keeps telling me I have to 
plug my Apple TV into an ARC port on my TV?

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Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 11:49 AM
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Yes,
That’s why the apple
Tv doesn’t work. ARC only wants audio hence audio return channel. That’s why I 
think the converter I recommended will work.
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On Dec 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I wonder if the fact that both the TV video and audio is coming through the 
HDMI cable; if having the video signal being sent to the Sonos Beam is causing 
some kind of conflict so instead of just passing through the audio, nothing 
gets through?
This is a working theory.

Has anyone called Sonos or Apple to inquire about this?

HTH,



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.
I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If ARC only wants audio then why does the Sonos app keeps telling me I have to 
plug my Apple TV into an ARC port on my TV?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

Yes,
That’s why the apple
Tv doesn’t work. ARC only wants audio hence audio return channel. That’s why I 
think the converter I recommended will work.
Feliciano
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On Dec 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I wonder if the fact that both the TV video and audio is coming through the 
HDMI cable; if having the video signal being sent to the Sonos Beam is causing 
some kind of conflict so instead of just passing through the audio, nothing 
gets through?
This is a working theory.

Has anyone called Sonos or Apple to inquire about this?

HTH,



Richard, USA.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.
I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it
Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson'

Re: apple tv question

2022-12-02 Thread Richard Turner
There should be no reason why the smart TV cannot download the Apple TV plus 
app.
Since we got our smart TV, the physical Apple TV has been mostly collecting 
dust; though my wife used it on occasion in her sowing room. Though now she has 
a Roku stick on that not quite as smart of a smart tv...




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> On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Paul Henrichsen  wrote:
> 
> Your new TV will probably have the ability to download an Apple TV app. If 
> that app is accessible and you can find your way around it, you won’t need to 
> buy a new Apple TV. The Apple serve. Hope this helps.
> 
> Paul Henrichsen
> p...@pfhj.org
> pfhj2...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> Hope all is well.  Hoping some of you can help.  I have a super old apple tv.
>> Now, I ahve a new smart tv.  Do I need a physical apple tv any more,
>> or is there just an app I would install?
>> I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to apple tv.  1 of the things
>> I have watched a lot os pluto tv.  Would I need the pluto tv app, or
>> would I just access it all through the apple tv app?  If someone can
>> help, that would be awesome.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Jed
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Re: apple tv question

2022-12-02 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Your new TV will probably have the ability to download an Apple TV app. If that 
app is accessible and you can find your way around it, you won’t need to buy a 
new Apple TV. The Apple serve. Hope this helps.

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> On Dec 2, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> Hope all is well.  Hoping some of you can help.  I have a super old apple tv.
> Now, I ahve a new smart tv.  Do I need a physical apple tv any more,
> or is there just an app I would install?
> I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to apple tv.  1 of the things
> I have watched a lot os pluto tv.  Would I need the pluto tv app, or
> would I just access it all through the apple tv app?  If someone can
> help, that would be awesome.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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apple tv question

2022-12-02 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,
Hope all is well.  Hoping some of you can help.  I have a super old apple tv.
Now, I ahve a new smart tv.  Do I need a physical apple tv any more,
or is there just an app I would install?
I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to apple tv.  1 of the things
I have watched a lot os pluto tv.  Would I need the pluto tv app, or
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Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-02 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Yes,
That’s why the apple

Tv doesn’t work. ARC only wants audio hence audio return channel. That’s why I 
think the converter I recommended will work.
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On Dec 2, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I wonder if the fact that both the TV video and audio is coming through the 
HDMI cable; if having the video signal being sent to the Sonos Beam is causing 
some kind of conflict so instead of just passing through the audio, nothing 
gets through?
This is a working theory.

Has anyone called Sonos or Apple to inquire about this?

HTH,



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.
I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it
Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound onl

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-02 Thread Richard Turner
I wonder if the fact that both the TV video and audio is coming through the 
HDMI cable; if having the video signal being sent to the Sonos Beam is causing 
some kind of conflict so instead of just passing through the audio, nothing 
gets through?

This is a working theory.

 

Has anyone called Sonos or Apple to inquire about this?

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

 

That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.

I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

 

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.

avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi, 

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

Feliciano 

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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi Feliciano,

 

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.

I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

 

Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv) 

 

I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.

 

Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano 

 

>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

>> 

>> Hello all,

>> 

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>> 

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>> 

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>> 

>> 

>> Gary

>> 

>> 

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That is the interesting part, you say the Beam has an ARC input and that is 
exactly what you are supposed to connect your Apple TV to on  your TV.
I just posted a message where I explained the result I had when I hooked up my 
older Apple TV to my Sonos Amp and it is specifically requesting for the Apple 
TV to be connected to the ARC port on the TV.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 9:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it
Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googleg

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Gary,



I received the new Apple TV 4K today and while I didn't try to connect it yet 
directly to my Arc, I did try to connect my old Apple TV HD (4th generation) to 
my Sonos Amp. Here is what I got when I opened the Sonos app, selected Bedroom 
(where my Sonos Amp is located) and then I selected "TV":



We detected an issue with your HDMI connection. We'll help you fix it.

Fix it button

Close button

So I double tapped on "Fix It" and the following screen came up:

Let's get your Sonos Amp connected to your TV

Continue button

I tapped on Continue and the next screen came up:

Turn on your TV, then plug the HDMI cable into the ARC port. Then I had the 
following 3 options:

Connected to ARC button

Can't find ARC button

Close button

So I tapped on "Connected to ARC" and after it said "connecting" for a few 
seconds, the next message came up:

HDMI ARC not detected. Make sure the HDMI cable is connected to the ARC port 
and your TV is on.

Try Again button

Close button

No ARC port? You need to use an optical audio adapter.



So apparently connecting an Apple TV directly to a Sonos device via HDMI simply 
won't work. One could argue that this is silly, but then again let's remember 
how extremely specialized this is to the visually impaired/blind customer base 
since I just can't see any sighted person at all wanting to do this. If they 
did and it actually worked they would have to use Voiceover in order to 
navigate their Apple TV and I really can't imagine a sighted person wanting to 
do this. In any case, all the music services are pretty much available directly 
through the Sonos app and when it comes to "listening" to TV audio I don't have 
to point out how pointless that would seem to sighted people.



If you did have or buy a Sonos Amp then you would have an optical audio input 
available and I assume if you had an "optical audio converter" as the Sonos app 
suggests, you would probably be successful in getting audio from the Apple TV 
into your Sonos system. I don't want it bad enough to go out there and buy an 
optical audio adapter to try it, but in any case, since the Sonos Beam only has 
an HDMI input that really wouldn't be an option.
I may at some point unplug the new Apple TV from my LG OLED TV and plug it 
directly into the Arc to see if I get the same message. But I am pretty sure I 
would and I don't have a lot of time until at least the beginning of the new 
year so it won't be any time soon. I guess if you really wanted to listen to 
Netflix, Disney, Prime Video or other TV channels on your Sonos Beam then you 
could always splay the content on your iPhone and then send it to the Beam via 
Airplay.





Best regards and good luck,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results



Well I  picked up a  SONOS Beam 2  last week and connected it to my APPLE TV 4K 
latest version.



I  set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it worked 
ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into  the HDMI port on 
the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed supported EARC etc.



The results - nothing! I  couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, needless to 
say as soon as I  re-plugged it into the back of my LG  TV it came alive with 
Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine.



I  have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support article 
which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a sound bar to 
get DOLBY Audio sound.



When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the settings 
under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive audio or DOLBY 
Audio.  The article suggested that if this was the case your surround equipment 
settings needed checking.  Presumably in this case this means the BEAM.



Any suggestions?





Thanks





Gary



On 20/11/2022 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

> Yes, it would work because that is what receivers are made for just as HDMI 
> inputs on TV's are made for this.

> Anyways, I have a feeling with the secondor third generation Apple TV 4K you 
> will be able to plug it straight into a Sonos Beam or Arc, but hopefully Gary 
> will report back once he has picked up his Beam and tried it.

>

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Kelly Ford

> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:43 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a p

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-01 Thread 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone

Hi Feliciano,

I  already know that the APPLE TV does not need to be connected to a  TV 
as such since it works perfectly well plugged into my Meridian HDMI 
switch which fronts my surround processor regardless of whether the TV 
is on or off. I  think it just needs to be able to "see" a  device 
capable of handling a video signal at the other end.


I've ordered one  of the HDMI audio extractors and will give it a try 
with my NAIM  MUSO which supports analogue and optical digital inputs.


Thanks for your efforts as you say APPLE don't necessarily know all the 
answers especially when it comes to connecting to third party equipment.


I'll let you know when I get the converter this weekend what happens.


Gary

  when 01/12/2022 19:53, Feliciano Godoy wrote:


Hi,
Just because Apple does not  have  a solution does not mean that there 
isn’t one. People have achieved many solutions with hex like 
converters. You can try the one that I mentioned in the email prior to 
this.


Feliciano
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On Dec 1, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Joney Owen  wrote:


Hi all:
I spoke with people at Apple Accessibility yesterday. She was 
extremely kind. We went through all of the information they have, and 
everything, absolutely everything, is based on having the TV in line. 
Some of them have a TV which can sleep and just streams through it 
and others set ups Have the TV on picture now. They have no settings 
that allow you to go without the TV. :-( That doesn’t mean I won’t 
keep looking, but so far, everything requires a TV. :-(


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
 wrote:


 I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not 
supported with Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe 
this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work 
out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, 
HDMI to HDMI + HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, 
HDMI Audio Embedder Converter Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick 
https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not 
supported with Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe 
this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work 
out, return it


Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
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those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are 
the ones who do. -Steve Jobs



On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either 
optical or analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam 
soundbar which has only a single input and it is also HDMI.


I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts 
HDMI input and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is 
maybe an older HDMI standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am 
actually surprised hooking the Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos 
Beam does not work.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company 
Cablematters. This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv 
headless (without a tv)


I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to 
audio extractor at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input 
where you would connect the Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM 
output which can be connected to TV/ headphones/ Speakers for audio 
only.


Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has 
the outputs you need.


Feliciano

>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


>> 


>> Hello all,

>> 

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with 
its some what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very 
latest 4K version which arrived last week.


>> 

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out 
remote and the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in 
this unit is some 30% faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided 
to see if I could create a sound only system.


>> 

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals 
this Black Friday and will report back on what happens.


>> 

>> 


>> Gary

>> 

>> 


>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc sound

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-01 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi,
Just because Apple does not  have  a solution does not mean that there isn’t 
one. People have achieved many solutions with hex like converters. You can try 
the one that I mentioned in the email prior to this.

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
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those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who 
do. -Steve Jobs

On Dec 1, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Joney Owen  wrote:


Hi all:
I spoke with people at Apple Accessibility yesterday. She was extremely kind. 
We went through all of the information they have, and everything, absolutely 
everything, is based on having the TV in line. Some of them have a TV which can 
sleep and just streams through it and others set ups Have the TV on picture 
now. They have no settings that allow you to go without the TV. :-( That 
doesn’t mean I won’t keep looking, but so far, everything requires a TV. :-(

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

 I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
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those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who 
do. -Steve Jobs

On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@g

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-01 Thread Joney Owen
Hi all:I spoke with people at Apple Accessibility yesterday. She was extremely kind. We went through all of the information they have, and everything, absolutely everything, is based on having the TV in line. Some of them have a TV which can sleep and just streams through it and others set ups Have the TV on picture now. They have no settings that allow you to go without the TV. :-( That doesn’t mean I won’t keep looking, but so far, everything requires a TV. :-(Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:




I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates: 
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Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do. -Steve Jobs 


On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:






 

Hi Feliciano,
 
That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI standard which the soundbar
 recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.
 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


 
Gary,
In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)

 
I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected
 to TV/ headphones/ Speakers for audio only.
 
Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs you need.
Feliciano 
 
>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which arrived last week.
>> 
>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could
 create a sound only system.
>> 
>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black Friday and will report back on what happens.
>> 
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is
 possible, but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if it works. If not
 he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
>>> To: 
viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>> 
>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs
 or gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 

>>> 
https://www.amazo

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-01 Thread Feliciano Godoy
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since beam has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it.
avedio links 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0b Audio Extractor with 7.1CH Atoms, HDMI to HDMI + 
HDMI 7.1CH + Optical Toslink SPDIF + 3.5mm Audio, HDMI Audio Embedder Converter 
Adapter for PS5, Xbox, Fire Stick https://a.co/d/52Q5ULw Hi,
I did a bit of research on this. Looks like Apple TV is not supported with 
Sonos beam directly since Been has arc input. Maybe this device will work. You 
can always try it, and if it doesn’t work out, return it

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates:
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Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v
those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who 
do. -Steve Jobs

On Dec 1, 2022, at 6:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>>>

>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:

>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +...

>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

>>> Matthew

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen 
>>> mailto:talk2o...@gm

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-12-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Feliciano,

That would work fine if you had a speaker which accepts either optical or 
analogue inputs, but Gary stated he has a Sonos Beam soundbar which has only a 
single input and it is also HDMI.
I didn't check, but maybe there is an audio extractor which accepts HDMI input 
and also has an HDMI output and that said HDMI output is maybe an older HDMI 
standard which the soundbar recognizes. I am actually surprised hooking the 
Apple TV 4K directly up to the Sonos Beam does not work.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results


Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>>>

>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:

>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +...

>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

>>> Matthew

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen 
>>> mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
>>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
>>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
>>> differently, please let me know.

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

>>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>> mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930

>>>>

>>>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>>>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.

>>>>

>>>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>>>&

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-11-30 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Gary,

In the past I used an HDMI to audio extractor by this company Cablematters. 
This device will allow you to utilize your apple tv headless (without a tv)



I bought it on Amazon, it was listed as Cablematters 4k HDMI to audio extractor 
at the time. This particular unit has HDMI input where you would connect the 
Apple TV and has optical and 3.5MM  output which can be connected to TV/ 
headphones/ Speakers for audio only.



Amazon basics also has a version, you just have to make sure it has the outputs 
you need.

Feliciano



>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.

>>

>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.

>>

>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.

>>

>>

>> Gary

>>

>>

>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of Matthew Bullis

>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM

>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

>>>

>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your 
>>> audio out through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or 
>>> gaming consoles don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have 
>>> them for some external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:

>>> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +...

>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

>>> Matthew

>>>

>>>

>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen 
>>> mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
>>> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
>>> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
>>> differently, please let me know.

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>

>>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>> mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930

>>>>

>>>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>>>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.

>>>>

>>>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>>>> Smart TV in our living room...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Richard, USA.

>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch

>>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in

>>>> the Universe

>>>>

>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com

>>>>

>>>> -Original Message-

>>>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM

>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:v

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-11-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Both Beam and Arc have only an HDMI input, the older Sonos Playbar and I 
believe the Playbase connected to the TV with an optical cable and I believe 
the small Sonos Ray soundbar also has an optical input.

I should get my new Apple TV 4K this week so I'll also play around with it 
hooking it up directly to our Arc, but in our case it doesn't really matter 
since I practically never watch or listen to the TV unless it's with my sighted 
wife and then of course the TV is on as well.

If a direct connection between the Apple TV and the Sonos Beam really doesn't 
work without a TV in between then the only option might be to have some sort of 
splitter which extracts the audio but then you still have to have something you 
can direct this audio stream to and unless you have another splitter on the 
Beam which allows you to hook up an optical cable from the first splitter then 
you may have to have a Sonos Port. The Port has rCA analogue inputs and outputs 
as well as a Coax digital input and output, but as long as you could get the 
audio into the Port, you could then group it with your Beam and play the audio 
from the Apple TV that way.

But it would involve a significant amount of gadgets and fiddling around and to 
me it would not be worth it.

Alternatively one could try to find out if a Sonos Amp which has an HDMI input 
could receive audio from an Apple TV if it were directly connected. Then Gary 
could put a Sonos Amp with either bookshelf speakers or in-wall or in-ceiling 
speakers into the bedroom.

I can also test this since we have a Sonos Amp and in-wall speakers in our 
bedroom so before I put my new Apple TV in its final resting place inside my 
entertainment cabinet, I could certainly hook it up to the Sonos Amp and see 
what happens. Fort hat matter, I could try this also with our older first 
generation Apple TV HD, I believe they called it the fourth generation Apple TV 
and it came out in 2015 after the Apple TV third Gen was discontinued. I 
thought we already had the first generation Apple TV 4K, but when I checked the 
model number which is A1625 and I looked it up I realized we bought it in 2015 
and it's just the apple TV HD.

I now ordered the latest Apple TV 4K with 128 Gb of RAM simply because the 
price difference to the 64 Gb is not a lot and only the 128 Gb has support for 
thread networking which is the new standard necessary for Matter support. For 
those who don't know what Matter is they can read the below article from 
9to5MAAC:



Apple drops smart-home feature from base Apple 
TV<https://9to5mac.com/2022/10/18/apple-tv-4k-thread-support/>



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results



When we first got our Apple TV 3rd generation, I had to get an optical audio 
converter to get the sound to go through our then stereo receiver and not the 
TV speaker only.  This was before we got Sonos products and a Smart TV and 
stopped using the physical Apple TV.



I wonder if you need something like that to direct the audio through the 
soundbar?



Though, I don't know what inputs the Beam2 has, if it is just the HDMI port, 
then that idea may not work.



Best of luck,







Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



My web site: https://www.turner42.com



-Original Message-

From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results



Well I  picked up a  SONOS Beam 2  last week and connected it to my APPLE TV 4K 
latest version.



I  set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it worked 
ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into  the HDMI port on 
the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed supported EARC etc.



The results - nothing! I  couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, needless to 
say as soon as I  re-plugged it into the back of my LG  TV it came alive with 
Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine.



I  have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support article 
which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a sound bar to 
get DOLBY Audio sound.



When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the settings 
under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive audio or DOLBY 
Audio.  The article suggested that if this was the case your surround equipment 
settings needed checking.  P

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-11-30 Thread Richard Turner
When we first got our Apple TV 3rd generation, I had to get an optical audio 
converter to get the sound to go through our then stereo receiver and not the 
TV speaker only.  This was before we got Sonos products and a Smart TV and 
stopped using the physical Apple TV.

I wonder if you need something like that to direct the audio through the 
soundbar?

Though, I don't know what inputs the Beam2 has, if it is just the HDMI port, 
then that idea may not work.

Best of luck,



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

Well I  picked up a  SONOS Beam 2  last week and connected it to my APPLE TV 4K 
latest version.

I  set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it worked 
ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into  the HDMI port on 
the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed supported EARC etc.

The results - nothing! I  couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, needless to 
say as soon as I  re-plugged it into the back of my LG  TV it came alive with 
Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine.

I  have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support article 
which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a sound bar to 
get DOLBY Audio sound.

When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the settings 
under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive audio or DOLBY 
Audio.  The article suggested that if this was the case your surround equipment 
settings needed checking.  Presumably in this case this means the BEAM.

Any suggestions?


Thanks


Gary

On 20/11/2022 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Yes, it would work because that is what receivers are made for just as HDMI 
> inputs on TV's are made for this.
> Anyways, I have a feeling with the secondor third generation Apple TV 4K you 
> will be able to plug it straight into a Sonos Beam or Arc, but hopefully Gary 
> will report back once he has picked up his Beam and tried it.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Ford
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hi,
>
> For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV plugged into the HDMI port of my 
> receiver.  This is a Marantz receiver.  This works fine with the Apple device 
> and does not require my TV to be connected or on for the Apple device to 
> work.  The Apple device is the newest 4K unit.
>
>
>> On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
>> what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version 
>> which arrived last week.
>>
>> I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and 
>> the speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% 
>> faster than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a 
>> sound only system.
>>
>> I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
>> Friday and will report back on what happens.
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
>>> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
>>> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
>>> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these 
>>> gadgets I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, 
>>> hook it up to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has 
>>> and see if it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund 
>>> or look into whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it 
>>> work.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Matthew Bullis
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>>
>>> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You 
>>> connect an HDMI cable to it, and then to the

Re: Apple TV without a physical screen - Results

2022-11-30 Thread 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone
Well I  picked up a  SONOS Beam 2  last week and connected it to my 
APPLE TV 4K latest version.


I  set up the Beam and plugged it into the EARC port on my LG TV and it 
worked ok. I switched everything off and re-plugged the Beam into  the 
HDMI port on the APPLE TV using the SONOS cable which they confirmed 
supported EARC etc.


The results - nothing! I  couldn't get a sound out of the APPLE TV, 
needless to say as soon as I  re-plugged it into the back of my LG  TV 
it came alive with Voiceover etc so the APPLE TV was working fine.


I  have been doing some GOOGling around and found an APPLE support 
article which seemed to suggest that you could plug the APPLE TV into a  
sound bar to get DOLBY Audio sound.


When I had the APPLE TV plugged into the LG I had a look around the 
settings under video/sound but couldn't find any reference to immersive 
audio or DOLBY Audio.  The article suggested that if this was the case 
your surround equipment settings needed checking.  Presumably in this 
case this means the BEAM.


Any suggestions?


Thanks


Gary

On 20/11/2022 22:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Yes, it would work because that is what receivers are made for just as HDMI 
inputs on TV's are made for this.
Anyways, I have a feeling with the secondor third generation Apple TV 4K you 
will be able to plug it straight into a Sonos Beam or Arc, but hopefully Gary 
will report back once he has picked up his Beam and tried it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Ford
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hi,

For what it is worth, I do have my Apple TV plugged into the HDMI port of my 
receiver.  This is a Marantz receiver.  This works fine with the Apple device 
and does not require my TV to be connected or on for the Apple device to work.  
The Apple device is the newest 4K unit.



On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:23 PM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have only 
HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the audio 
coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, but 
whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets I 
would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up to 
my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if it 
works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Bullis
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some external 
speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Matthew


On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:

I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. We 
scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not wanted. 
However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out differently, 
please let me know.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930

I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just trying 
it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.

I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our Smart 
TV in our living room...



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple TV w

Re: apple TV question

2022-11-23 Thread Paul Henrichsen
If your TV has an Apple TV app that you can install, you can use that without 
having to purchase an Apple TV, as long as the app is accessible.

Paul Henrichsen
pfhj2...@gmail.com
p...@pfhj.org

From: jedbar...@gmail.com  on behalf of Jed Barton 

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 7:30:08 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: apple TV question

Hey guys,

Hope everyone is doing well. Question on an apple tv.  Do you need a
physical apple tv, or can you download the app on to a smart tv?  I
had an old apple tv, hooked up to 1 of my tvs.  Can anyone help?

Cheers,

Jed

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RE: apple TV question

2022-11-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Most new smart TV's have the Apple TV app, however while many smart TV's now 
have some sort of screenreader and accessibility, I still question if they can 
match an actual Apple TV with respect to accessibility.
As for downloading an Apple TV app I doubt that is possible, either your smart 
TV has Apple TV or it does not.
Keep in mind that The Apple TV 4K as in the physical device is m ore than the 
Apple TV service. You can access other things like Netflix, Disney Plus, Apple 
Music and so on via your Apple TV and you can also use the Netflix app, Disney 
Plus app and so on which are built in to your smart TV. For that matter you 
could get a Roku TV stick for $20 or $30 and you also get access to all of 
that. There is a lot of duplication so you just have to decide what you think 
you need in order to accomplish what you want to accomplish. The Apple TV 4K 
which was just recently released is not all that expensive, but if all you do 
is watch Netflix and Disney Plus and you find you can do this accessibly 
through your TV then you probably don't need it.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: apple TV question

Hey guys,

Hope everyone is doing well. Question on an apple tv.  Do you need a physical 
apple tv, or can you download the app on to a smart tv?  I had an old apple tv, 
hooked up to 1 of my tvs.  Can anyone help?

Cheers,

Jed

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apple TV question

2022-11-23 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,

Hope everyone is doing well. Question on an apple tv.  Do you need a
physical apple tv, or can you download the app on to a smart tv?  I
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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

2022-11-23 Thread chrisjudge1967
Oh I won't be replacing any of it for a while.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 22, 2022 1:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

I would wait to replace your Playbase until next year as there are rumours 
Sonos may release a new flag ship soundbar.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

I want to buy more Sonos gear but I can't justify it. Currently I have 2 play 
fives with a sub in the man cave, a sub, play base and two Sonos ones in the 
livingroom for our surround sound, a play 3 in the kitchen, another one of 
those bad boys in the basement, a Sonos connect in the master bedroom connected 
to my bose wave system, and an Sonos 1 in my girlfriends computer room, so I 
really don't have any room for more Sonos stuff. I'd love to by an arc but will 
need to sell my play base to make room for it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 20, 2022 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Yes, they do have good deals for those who are not yet invested in Sonos. I was 
hoping to get the 20% off the new Sub Mini, but no such luck, the only deal I 
saw here in Canada is a little over 10% off and then you have to buy it with a 
set of Sonos One or Sonos SL speakers and I don't need them. Oh well, I think I 
may have some older Sonos One first generation speakers and I could use the 15% 
upgrade credit Sonos offers to buy a Sub Mini and then sell them since I 
currently have more Sonos speakers than I really need or use.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading

Question about using Apple TV remote app

2022-11-22 Thread Amy Ruell
Hello all,

Have any of you used this app? I am using it for the first time today and
have found the following using my iPhone 14 pro.

If I open the app and go to the "gestures area" I have no navigability.
Buttons labeled "channel up" and channel down" have no impact. I don't seem
to be able to select channels. Is there an alternative app I can use?

Thanks.

 

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RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

2022-11-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I would wait to replace your Playbase until next year as there are rumours 
Sonos may release a new flag ship soundbar.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

I want to buy more Sonos gear but I can't justify it. Currently I have 2 play 
fives with a sub in the man cave, a sub, play base and two Sonos ones in the 
livingroom for our surround sound, a play 3 in the kitchen, another one of 
those bad boys in the basement, a Sonos connect in the master bedroom connected 
to my bose wave system, and an Sonos 1 in my girlfriends computer room, so I 
really don't have any room for more Sonos stuff. I'd love to by an arc but will 
need to sell my play base to make room for it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 20, 2022 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Yes, they do have good deals for those who are not yet invested in Sonos. I was 
hoping to get the 20% off the new Sub Mini, but no such luck, the only deal I 
saw here in Canada is a little over 10% off and then you have to buy it with a 
set of Sonos One or Sonos SL speakers and I don't need them. Oh well, I think I 
may have some older Sonos One first generation speakers and I could use the 15% 
upgrade credit Sonos offers to buy a Sub Mini and then sell them since I 
currently have more Sonos speakers than I really need or use.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: &

RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

2022-11-21 Thread chrisjudge1967
I want to buy more Sonos gear but I can't justify it. Currently I have 2 play 
fives with a sub in the man cave, a sub, play base and two Sonos ones in the 
livingroom for our surround sound, a play 3 in the kitchen, another one of 
those bad boys in the basement, a Sonos connect in the master bedroom connected 
to my bose wave system, and an Sonos 1 in my girlfriends computer room, so I 
really don't have any room for more Sonos stuff. I'd love to by an arc but will 
need to sell my play base to make room for it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 20, 2022 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Yes, they do have good deals for those who are not yet invested in Sonos. I was 
hoping to get the 20% off the new Sub Mini, but no such luck, the only deal I 
saw here in Canada is a little over 10% off and then you have to buy it with a 
set of Sonos One or Sonos SL speakers and I don't need them. Oh well, I think I 
may have some older Sonos One first generation speakers and I could use the 15% 
upgrade credit Sonos offers to buy a Sub Mini and then sell them since I 
currently have more Sonos speakers than I really need or use.

-Original Message-
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?

Hello all,

Thanks for the feedback. I originally had the old Apple TV HD with its some 
what quirky remote and decided to upgrade to the very latest 4K version which 
arrived last week.

I  was so impressed with the new unit, both the well thought out remote and the 
speed of the box, I  gather the new processor in this unit is some 30% faster 
than the older 4K unit, that I decided to see if I could create a sound only 
system.

I  intend to pick up a  Sonos beam  as there are some good deals this Black 
Friday and will report back on what happens.


Gary


On 20/11/2022 21:11, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> This would not help to connect to a Sonos Beam or Arc soundbar which have 
> only HDMI inputs. Maybe there is another adapter which would convert the 
> audio coming from your box back to HDMI, but as I said, a lot is possible, 
> but whether it is practical is another issue. Before I buy all these gadgets 
> I would simply buy the latest Apple TV 4K which was just released, hook it up 
> to my Sonos soundbar which from the way it sounds he already has and see if 
> it works. If not he can either return the Apple TV for a refund or look into 
> whatever other adapters/extractors are required to make it work.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>
> Hello, to get around this issue, I bought this several years ago. You connect 
> an HDMI cable to it, and then to the Apple tv, and you send your audio out 
> through the RCA jacks. It's used for those times when tvs or gaming consoles 
> don’t have their own audio outputs, and you need to have them for some 
> external speakers. It's about a thirty dollar item:
> ViewHD Premium HDMI to HDMI +... 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBHX072?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
> Matthew
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:
>
> I asked this question when I was in a class for Apple TV a year or so ago. 
> We scuffed at a bit, because they couldn’t understand why the TV was not 
> wanted. However, I don’t believe it works without the TV. If you find out 
> differently, please let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Apple Accessibility is available 24/7 at 877-204-3930
>>
>> I suspect the answer is that the Apple TV won't care, but short of just 
>> trying it, the good folks at Apple could answer your question quickly.
>>
>> I don't have a physical Apple TV, I just use the app on my iPhone or our 
>> Smart TV in our living room...
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2022 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple TV without a physical screen?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone know if the Apple TV will work if it is plugged directly into a  
>> soundbar such as o

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