Re: KNFB Reader Pricing

2017-10-04 Thread Richard Turner

I suggest you read the fine print.
As I understand it, you have a free trial period with Android, then the price 
is the same unless you come across a sale at some point.
HTH,
Richard


On Oct 4, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Tom Lange 
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Hi,

Well, I now have one foot in the Apple camp and one in the Google/Android camp 
and have been learning to use a Samsung Galaxy S8 with Nougat and Talkback. 
It’s neat to be able to “see how the other half lives”, so to speak, as I’ll be 
able to gain some perspective on both devices, the underlying approaches and 
philosophies and so on and I can then pass that information on to my students.
As I explore and play around, naturally I’m loading the S8 up with various apps 
and am checking out the Play Store.  While I was there yesterday I found KNFB 
Reader, noticed that it’s free for Android users, so I promptly installed it 
and put it to the test. I must say, its performance was very impressive on the 
Samsung.  My question is why there is a $100 price tag on KNFB Reader in the 
app store versus no charge in the Play Store. What’s the story on that?  Thanks,
Tom

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KNFB Reader Pricing

2017-10-04 Thread Tom Lange


Hi,

Well, I now have one foot in the Apple camp and one in the Google/Android camp 
and have been learning to use a Samsung Galaxy S8 with Nougat and Talkback. 
It’s neat to be able to “see how the other half lives”, so to speak, as I’ll be 
able to gain some perspective on both devices, the underlying approaches and 
philosophies and so on and I can then pass that information on to my students.  
As I explore and play around, naturally I’m loading the S8 up with various apps 
and am checking out the Play Store.  While I was there yesterday I found KNFB 
Reader, noticed that it’s free for Android users, so I promptly installed it 
and put it to the test. I must say, its performance was very impressive on the 
Samsung.  My question is why there is a $100 price tag on KNFB Reader in the 
app store versus no charge in the Play Store. What’s the story on that?  Thanks,
Tom

  Sent from my iPhone 7

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Re: KNFB reader with Iphone 8

2017-09-23 Thread Chris Chaffin

KNFB Reader can not detect handwriting.  If KNFB Reader does not detect any 
text, then it will automatically go back to the main screen where the take 
picture button is located.

Chris


> On Sep 23, 2017, at 10:49 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. <fiore...@gmail.com> 
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> Hi: When I scan certain documents with KNFB reader Voice over says: "play", 
> however, when I go to the screen, it has gone back to the default screen 
> where I do the original scan. This is mostly happening on handwriting.
> Also, sometimes, I'm getting a post that "Lenz is Blocked."
> Any suggestions?
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RE: KNFB reader with Iphone 8

2017-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
KNFB Reader cannot scans handwriting.

Make sure your finger isn’t over the lense or that there is enough light to get 
a picture.

Richard


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Subject: KNFB reader with Iphone 8

Hi: When I scan certain documents with KNFB reader Voice over says: "play", 
however, when I go to the screen, it has gone back to the default screen where 
I do the original scan. This is mostly happening on handwriting.
Also, sometimes, I'm getting a post that "Lenz is Blocked."
Any suggestions?
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KNFB reader with Iphone 8

2017-09-23 Thread John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Hi: When I scan certain documents with KNFB reader Voice over says: "play",
however, when I go to the screen, it has gone back to the default screen
where I do the original scan. This is mostly happening on handwriting. 

Also, sometimes, I'm getting a post that "Lenz is Blocked." 

Any suggestions?

Thanks. 

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RE: What is the difference between KNFB Reader, and KNFB reader Enterprise?

2017-06-19 Thread Karl Smith
The two products are functionally the same. The KNFB Enterprise app can be 
purchased from a dealer rather than from the app or google play store. The cost 
is $99 but you do get the authorization to install the app on two devices such 
as two iPhones, an iPhone and an android or Windows 10 device. The product can 
be downloaded for iPhone, android or Windows 10 and you can install on two out 
of the three in any combination you like. If things change you can deactivate a 
license and move it to another device of your choice.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
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Subject: What is the difference between KNFB Reader, and KNFB reader Enterprise?

 

Hello folks,

The subject says it all.  I noticed that in the app store there is the KNFB 
Reader which I bought over a year ago, and the KNFB Reader Enterprise.  Are 
there any significant differences between the two?

I am just curious!

Cheers,

Cris

 

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RE: What is the difference between KNFB Reader, and KNFB reader Enterprise?

2017-06-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Chris,

At the top of the app description of KNFB Reader Enterprise it says the 
following:

To activate and use KNFB Reader Enterprise you need a license with valid 
username and password.
If you do not yet have these, please contact your KNFBReader Enterprise 
distributor or site administrator.
A list of distributors where you can buy your license can be found on the KNFB 
Reader website www.knfbreader.com<http://www.knfbreader.com>.
You can also buy your license directly from the appstore by installing 
knfbReader instead of KNFB Reader Enterprise

Also, once you get down to where the price of the app is listed, KNFB Reader 
Enterprise says “Free”, but this of course is not because it is in fact free, 
but because the Enterprise version apparently is designed for companies who may 
want to purchase and manager multiple licenses. I assume KNFB Reader allows 
them to purchase said licenses and the user can then activate them with a login.
Apart from that the app itself is exactly the same.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: What is the difference between KNFB Reader, and KNFB reader Enterprise?

Hello folks,
The subject says it all.  I noticed that in the app store there is the KNFB 
Reader which I bought over a year ago, and the KNFB Reader Enterprise.  Are 
there any significant differences between the two?
I am just curious!
Cheers,
Cris

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What is the difference between KNFB Reader, and KNFB reader Enterprise?

2017-06-18 Thread Cris Ali
Hello folks,
The subject says it all.  I noticed that in the app store there is the KNFB 
Reader which I bought over a year ago, and the KNFB Reader Enterprise.  Are 
there any significant differences between the two?
I am just curious!
Cheers,
Cris

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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-13 Thread Richard Turner

if you already have the Fopydo stand, you can buy the Book Reading attachment 
separately.
Richard


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> On May 13, 2017, at 4:51 AM, David Whitehead <davidmac1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello;
> 
> You can check out the following;
> There's fopydo stand for reading books;
> 
> http://fopydo.com/bookreadingaid
> 
> there's a fopydo scan for reading documents,
> 
> http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
> hope this helps.
> 
>   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what 
> they conceal is vital.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.
> 
> Hello Liz,
> 
> KNFBReader is great for reading print books, especially if you have the 
> Fopydo stand with book reading attachment. I can sit in my comfortable 
> armchair with the Fopydo on my lap and read a book using KNFBReader on my 
> iPhone SE. The book reading attachment for the Fopydo stand means that you 
> can be turning to the next double-page while listening to the pages you’ve 
> just scanned.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13 May 2017, at 11:26, Liz and LD Hope <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I want a program that will allow me to read documents such as mail, and I
>> want to be able to read a print book.  Is the KNFB Reader good for reading
>> books?
>> 
>> Liz Ulrich
>> and LD Hope
>> 
>> 
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RE: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-13 Thread David Whitehead
Hello;

You can check out the following;
There's fopydo stand for reading books;

http://fopydo.com/bookreadingaid

there's a fopydo scan for reading documents,

http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
hope this helps.

   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what 
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Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

Hello Liz,

KNFBReader is great for reading print books, especially if you have the Fopydo 
stand with book reading attachment. I can sit in my comfortable armchair with 
the Fopydo on my lap and read a book using KNFBReader on my iPhone SE. The book 
reading attachment for the Fopydo stand means that you can be turning to the 
next double-page while listening to the pages you’ve just scanned.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 13 May 2017, at 11:26, Liz and LD Hope <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I want a program that will allow me to read documents such as mail, and I
> want to be able to read a print book.  Is the KNFB Reader good for reading
> books?
> 
> Liz Ulrich
> and LD Hope
> 
> 
> 
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-13 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Liz,

KNFBReader is great for reading print books, especially if you have the Fopydo 
stand with book reading attachment. I can sit in my comfortable armchair with 
the Fopydo on my lap and read a book using KNFBReader on my iPhone SE. The book 
reading attachment for the Fopydo stand means that you can be turning to the 
next double-page while listening to the pages you’ve just scanned.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 13 May 2017, at 11:26, Liz and LD Hope <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net> 
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> I want a program that will allow me to read documents such as mail, and I
> want to be able to read a print book.  Is the KNFB Reader good for reading
> books?
> 
> Liz Ulrich
> and LD Hope
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RE: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-13 Thread Liz and LD Hope
I want a program that will allow me to read documents such as mail, and I
want to be able to read a print book.  Is the KNFB Reader good for reading
books?

Liz Ulrich
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RE: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-13 Thread Liz and LD Hope
Thank you for the information about the KNFB reader e-mail list.  I am
looking forward to subscribing and learning more about the KNFB reader so
that I can make an informed decision.  

Liz Ulrich
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-12 Thread Elizabeth Ulrich

I just attempted to subscribe to the list, and I received a message stating 
that the form is too old and that I needed to get it again. What does this 
mean? 


Sent from my iPhone 
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope 
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

> On May 12, 2017, at 11:40 PM, David Andrews <dandr...@visi.com> wrote:
> 
> There is a KNFB-Reader list, where there is lots of good info.  To join go to:
> 
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/reader-users_nfbnet.org
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 02:08 PM 5/12/2017, you wrote:
> 
>> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
>> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
>> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to 
>> know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get 
>> the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there 
>> tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
>> appreciated.
>> 
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-12 Thread David Andrews

There is a KNFB-Reader list, where there is lots of good info.  To join go to:

http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/reader-users_nfbnet.org

Dave

At 02:08 PM 5/12/2017, you wrote:

Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite 
some time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I 
am able to purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this 
App, I would like to know how people find this App. Is it worth the 
investment. Also, if I get the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand 
a worthwhile accessory? Are there tutorials available for KNFB 
reader? Any and all feedback will be appreciated.



Sent from my iPhone
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-12 Thread Richard Turner

The second generation has square legs so they do not get out of alignment when 
you move the stand on the table as easily as with the round legs.
The cut out where you place the camera.
The microsuction tape on the top is wider and turned so it goes from that 
camera cut out toward the back so more of the phone is sitting on it so the 
phone really does not slide at all.
I was at a client's home who had just ordered it.
I wrote the creator and he said he had been working with a guy in Cleveland on 
improving the stand. He did say he may have to raise the price to $15 because 
the new legs cost more, but that he would ship for free in the United States.
Richard


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(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

> On May 12, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Esubalew Johnston <esubale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I have both scanning devices and K and NFB reader, what's the 
> difference between the second generation?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Liz,
>> It really depends on what kinds of things you plan to scan as to whether 
>> KNFB is worth the price.
>> It is very fast, you can add pages to a document and save it as one file, it 
>> has a batch mode so you can scan a bunch of pages and then have them all 
>> recognized at once.
>> It has a document stand mode so that after you initiate the first scan, when 
>> you move a new page into view, it can automatically detect the new page and 
>> take the next picture without you having to touch the phone.
>> If you plan to ever try scanning a book, the ScanJig is not my first choice 
>> in stands.
>> Also, if you want good portability in a stand, it is a little bulky.
>> I prefer the Fopydo Scanning stand.
>> I just saw the second generation model, and it is really nice. Also it is 
>> only $15.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth Ulrich 
>>> <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
>>> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
>>> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like 
>>> to know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I 
>>> get the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are 
>>> there tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
>>> appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-12 Thread Esubalew Johnston
Hi all, I have both scanning devices and K and NFB reader, what's the 
difference between the second generation?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Liz,
> It really depends on what kinds of things you plan to scan as to whether KNFB 
> is worth the price.
> It is very fast, you can add pages to a document and save it as one file, it 
> has a batch mode so you can scan a bunch of pages and then have them all 
> recognized at once.
> It has a document stand mode so that after you initiate the first scan, when 
> you move a new page into view, it can automatically detect the new page and 
> take the next picture without you having to touch the phone.
> If you plan to ever try scanning a book, the ScanJig is not my first choice 
> in stands.
> Also, if you want good portability in a stand, it is a little bulky.
> I prefer the Fopydo Scanning stand.
> I just saw the second generation model, and it is really nice. Also it is 
> only $15.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth Ulrich 
>> <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
>> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
>> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to 
>> know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get 
>> the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there 
>> tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
>> appreciated. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Richard Turner

anna,
TapTapSee isn't designed for text, though it is surprising some of the results 
one can get that were clearly text recognition, like who an envelope is 
addressed to.
But, But, if you are not dealing with paper scanning, and want object 
identification, it is worth the wait sometimes.
As Chip mentioned, Digit-Eyes can also be a good way to go so long as you can 
find the bar code fairly easily.
And, if the manufacturer included the package information in the barcode data, 
it can tell you a lot. However, I don't find that as often as I'd like.
I think you will be surprised how much information the Directions For Me web 
site has.
Good luck,
Richard


On May 12, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Thanks Richard!
TapTapSee takes forever to give a response and I’ve not even tried it for 
reading.
I’ll give Prizmo a try.
The site for directions you suggest  sounds very useful as long as it has 
enough data in its database; I look forward to try it.
Thanks again,
anna


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

No, save your money.
Have you tried TapTapSee?  It is free, and you can take a picture of an item 
and it will tell you what it is.
Then, if you need directions, go to that web site 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> and put in the product 
name and you can find all of the information that is on the package.  The web 
site is designed for people who are blind.
But, give Prizmo Go a try since you can scan things for free and see how it 
does.  It is every bit as accurate as KNFB.


HTH,
Richard


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say eith

Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-12 Thread Richard Turner

Liz,
It really depends on what kinds of things you plan to scan as to whether KNFB 
is worth the price.
It is very fast, you can add pages to a document and save it as one file, it 
has a batch mode so you can scan a bunch of pages and then have them all 
recognized at once.
It has a document stand mode so that after you initiate the first scan, when 
you move a new page into view, it can automatically detect the new page and 
take the next picture without you having to touch the phone.
If you plan to ever try scanning a book, the ScanJig is not my first choice in 
stands.
Also, if you want good portability in a stand, it is a little bulky.
I prefer the Fopydo Scanning stand.
I just saw the second generation model, and it is really nice. Also it is only 
$15.
HTH,
Richard


> On May 12, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth Ulrich 
> <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to 
> know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get the 
> KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there 
> tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
> appreciated. 
> 
> 
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KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

2017-05-12 Thread Elizabeth Ulrich

Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some time, 
but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to purchase 
KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to know how 
people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get the KNFB 
reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there tutorials 
available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be appreciated. 


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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Giller, Anna
Thank you, Paula!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Anna.  Good for you for seeking advice before you put down that much money 
for an app. I don’t have much luck with boxes or bottles with KNFB reader.  I 
use either bespecular or be my eyes for those chores.  Both those apps are free 
and work well.
God bless!
Paula and Garcon

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Giller, Anna
Thanks


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Brandt
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Are used recently to read K cups and label from a 32 ounce bottle. I turned the 
bottle around such that after several scans I came to where the directions were 
for my product. As for the cake ups, I read off of the top part, not raising 
the camera high so that could read what was on the plastic that would be 
punched through by the keurig needle later.

On May 12, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:
Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Giller, Anna
Thank you very much Chip!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Also, in additipon to use of OCR, you might find it more helpful to get a good 
barcode reader for bottles and boxes such as Digit-Eyes (which I think is $10), 
when it is able to read the barcode you usually get all the info you could want 
(and quite clearly).

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
>

Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Michael Feir
Eople wanting a free OCR option should have a look at Prizmo Go. Overall, I
quite like KNFB Reader's guidance regarding taking a good picture. However,
I was out for a stroll this morning and found a sign near my building.
Thought I'd give Prizmo Go a try and it actually did a better job than KNFB
Rader on that sign. It has a different approach to explaining the
circumstance of the picture if you use its guidance to line up the best
picture possible. The end result of my efforts is that I know that there's
a $5000 fine in Mississauga for people caught feeding wild animals. It can
make them less dependant and/or more aggresive. Don't throw those bread
crumbs people. Those critters aren't $5000 worth of cute.
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:08 PM Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Also, in additipon to use of OCR, you might find it more helpful to get a
> good barcode reader for bottles and boxes such as Digit-Eyes (which I think
> is $10), when it is able to read the barcode you usually get all the info
> you could want (and quite clearly).
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>
>
>
> Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.
> Also, the widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast
> makes it difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can
> work.
>
> Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and
> has good color contrast.
>
>
>
> If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the
> www.directionsforme.com web site once you identify the product.
>
>
>
> It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text
> afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
>
> If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
>
> If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
>
> Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word
> processing app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
>
> It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly
> worth trying out for free.
>
>
>
> I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item
> while the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Giller, Anna
> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>
>
>
> Hi Richard and Sandy!
>
> I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with
> print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
>
> Thank you very much
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>
>
>
> Richard,
> Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the
> latest iOS.
>
> Sandy
>
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>
> On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
> On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB
> reader and it opens fine.
>
> On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB
> Reader, it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
>
> Very odd.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Noun: trumpery
>
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
>
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
>
> This definition is from WordWeb
>
>
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
>
>
> On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> --
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of
> Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>
>
>
> Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the
> reader on my 5S. I think this all starte

RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Chip Orange
Also, in additipon to use of OCR, you might find it more helpful to get a good 
barcode reader for bottles and boxes such as Digit-Eyes (which I think is $10), 
when it is able to read the barcode you usually get all the info you could want 
(and quite clearly).

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.

Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

 

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the www.directionsforme.com 
web site once you identify the product.

 

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.

If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.

If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.

Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.

It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

 

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

 

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard and Sandy!

I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.

Thank you very much

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.

Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb

 

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

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D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Kathy Brandt
Are used recently to read K cups and label from a 32 ounce bottle. I turned the 
bottle around such that after several scans I came to where the directions were 
for my product. As for the cake ups, I read off of the top part, not raising 
the camera high so that could read what was on the plastic that would be 
punched through by the keurig needle later.

On May 12, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Giller, Anna <anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov> wrote:

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much
 
 
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
 
Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

 
Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard
 

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app
 
Get Outlook for iOS
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Michael 
D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
 
Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi Anna.  Good for you for seeking advice before you put down that much money 
for an app. I don’t have much luck with boxes or bottles with KNFB reader.  I 
use either bespecular or be my eyes for those chores.  Both those apps are free 
and work well.

God bless!

Paula and Garcon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard and Sandy!

I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.

Thank you very much

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.

Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb

 

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Michael 
D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I just did a test  and it worked fine. I made sure to slowly enunciate k n f b 
before saying reader.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marie 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 8:51 AM
  Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader


  On my 7 it will not start with either command?

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:13 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

  Hi Richard, same here, you just have to say “Open KNFB” and not “Open KNFB 
Reader”. I have it on my main home screen so I usually don’t use SIRI to open 
these apps since I can find them easily and quickly, but “Open KNFB” is shorter 
anyways.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

   

   

  Interesting.

  On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

  On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

  Very odd.

  Richard

   

  Noun: trumpery

  1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

  2. Ornamental objects of no great value

  This definition is from WordWeb





  (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


  On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS




From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the 
reader on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, 
that being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is 
having this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
    > command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Giller, Anna
Thank you, Gentlemen!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Well let me just say that we of the male persuasion; completely appreciate your 
attention to going through the hassle of trying to read cosmetic and personal 
care labels ETC, as even us blind guy’s appreciate a good looking lady Every 
now and then, OK all the time!

I can’t imagine all the hassles you gals go through! As a guy myself, I know if 
I pull any shirt and any pants out of my closet; it’ll damn sure match 
perfectly. Cosmetics? No way no how period, the end. Can’t say the same for the 
double X chromosome crowd! As they handle it with absolute grace and well 
defined character. A hats off to the ladies of the blind persuasion!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:vi

RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Giller, Anna
Thank you very much Lynda!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi,

KNFB Reader works very well with standard text. It can be a little more 
difficult with packaging. I believe it is due to the various sizes of the print 
and fonts on most packaging. I tend to use Tap Tap See for packages more than 
KNFB Reader. Also, you can use Be My Eyes. Given the last two apps are free, if 
you think you would use KNFB to read enough standard print documents, I would 
encourage you to get the program.

Have a great day,

Lynda

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Giller, Anna
Thanks Richard!
TapTapSee takes forever to give a response and I’ve not even tried it for 
reading.
I’ll give Prizmo a try.
The site for directions you suggest  sounds very useful as long as it has 
enough data in its database; I look forward to try it.
Thanks again,
anna


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

No, save your money.
Have you tried TapTapSee?  It is free, and you can take a picture of an item 
and it will tell you what it is.
Then, if you need directions, go to that web site 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> and put in the product 
name and you can find all of the information that is on the package.  The web 
site is designed for people who are blind.
But, give Prizmo Go a try since you can scan things for free and see how it 
does.  It is every bit as accurate as KNFB.


HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@ce

RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Yeah, I agree regarding SIRI's strange behavior sometimes.  If I say to text a 
particular phone number, most of the time it works fine.  But about one out of 
ten times, she will say "You don't seem to have an app for that".  Oh well...

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel [siegh...@live.ca]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Les,

Try saying “Open Tune”, that did it for me.
Definitely odd, but typical SIRI nonsense.
I still can’t believe when I sometimes ask SIRI to call a certain business like 
the Sears department store how it finds and lists all Sears stores in a 300 
mile radius but not our local one which is half a mile away from my house. The 
same goes for our British Columbia Liquor Store, it finds them in all the town 
and cities some of which are hundreds of miles away since I live in northern BC 
where towns are often far apart, but it won’t find my local BC Liquor Store 
which is a 6 minute walk from my house.
I really hope in iOS 11 SIRI will get major smarts, but then again I did hope 
that last year. Now, however, with the rumour that Apple will release an 
Echo/Google Home type speaker possibly also with a camera maybe they finally 
make SIRI a lot smarter.

Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

I have an iPhone 6s Plus running the latest iOS version. I cannot open tune in 
radio with Siri, no matter what I say.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 11, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Marie
On my 7 it will not start with either command?

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard, same here, you just have to say “Open KNFB” and not “Open KNFB 
Reader”. I have it on my main home screen so I usually don’t use SIRI to open 
these apps since I can find them easily and quickly, but “Open KNFB” is shorter 
anyways.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:

  I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

   

  Get Outlook for iOS


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Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

   

  Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
  > 
  > Hi all,
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
  > command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
  > reliably for me.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
  > off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
  > couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
  > tedious to go start it manually.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Thanks,
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Chip
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Mike Ulrich
Well let me just say that we of the male persuasion; completely appreciate your 
attention to going through the hassle of trying to read cosmetic and personal 
care labels ETC, as even us blind guy’s appreciate a good looking lady Every 
now and then, OK all the time!

 

I can’t imagine all the hassles you gals go through! As a guy myself, I know if 
I pull any shirt and any pants out of my closet; it’ll damn sure match 
perfectly. Cosmetics? No way no how period, the end. Can’t say the same for the 
double X chromosome crowd! As they handle it with absolute grace and well 
defined character. A hats off to the ladies of the blind persuasion!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard!

I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.

The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 

Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?

Thank you very much

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.

Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

 

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the www.directionsforme.com 
web site once you identify the product.

 

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.

If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.

If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.

Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.

It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

 

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

 

Richard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard and Sandy!

I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.

Thank you very much

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.

Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb

 

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Michael 
D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to wh

RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Lynda Ingraham
Hi, 

 

KNFB Reader works very well with standard text. It can be a little more 
difficult with packaging. I believe it is due to the various sizes of the print 
and fonts on most packaging. I tend to use Tap Tap See for packages more than 
KNFB Reader. Also, you can use Be My Eyes. Given the last two apps are free, if 
you think you would use KNFB to read enough standard print documents, I would 
encourage you to get the program. 

 

Have a great day, 

 

Lynda 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Hi Richard and Sandy!

I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.

Thank you very much

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

 

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.

Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

 

Interesting.

On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.

On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.

Very odd.

Richard

 

Noun: trumpery

1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense

2. Ornamental objects of no great value

This definition is from WordWeb

 

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?


On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Michael 
D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader 

 

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Richard Turner
No, save your money.
Have you tried TapTapSee?  It is free, and you can take a picture of an item 
and it will tell you what it is.
Then, if you need directions, go to that web site 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> and put in the product 
name and you can find all of the information that is on the package.  The web 
site is designed for people who are blind.
But, give Prizmo Go a try since you can scan things for free and see how it 
does.  It is every bit as accurate as KNFB.


HTH,
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>

RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Giller, Anna
Hi Richard!
I don’t deal with paper documents very often, everything is pretty much on the 
computer.
The biggest issue is reading instructions, directions, and even the names of 
products like personal care, cosmetics, closing tags etc. Guys cannot 
understand how important it is for a woman 
Do you think KNFB will be much of a help?
Thank you very much


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Vivian Conger
Yes I'm having the same issue and I am still on 10.21 with my 5C.



Vivian and Barbee "That's Barbee with 2 E's and not the doll."
blazie.g...@gmail.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael D. Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand 
> the command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to 
> work reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a 
> folder off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass 
> through a couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so 
> it's really tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Richard Turner
Bottles are difficult for any OCR app because of the curved surface.  Also, the 
widely varying fonts and sizes and sometimes lack of contrast makes it 
difficult.  That being said, if the label is not too odd, it can work.
Boxes can be OK but again, it depends on if the font is not too fancy and has 
good color contrast.

If you are looking for the directions on a box, try the 
www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> web site once you 
identify the product.

It really depends on what you are planning to do with the scanned text 
afterward as to whether KNFB Reader is worth the money for you.
If you want to be able to save documents, it works well.
If you just want to read and be done with it, try Prizmo Go which is free.
Then, if you want to be able to copy that text into an Email or word processing 
app, you can buy the Export pack for $4.99.
It is a brand new app that I’m quite impressed with.  It is certainly worth 
trying out for free.

I also find that in some situations, one OCr app does well with an item while 
the other doesn’t, so it never hurts to have a couple of them to use.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 6:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread Giller, Anna
Hi Richard and Sandy!
I’m considering buying KNFB app. Would you please tell me if it works with 
print materials only or can also read labels on boxes and bottles.
Thank you very much


From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-12 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Richard,
Thank you! Omitting the word "reader" now works on my iPhone 6 running the 
latest iOS.
Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 12 May 2017, at 03:16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting.
> On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
> reader and it opens fine.
> On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
> it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
> Very odd.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
> 
> On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>> Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>>  
>> Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the 
>> reader on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came 
>> out, that being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody 
>> else is having this problem too.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi all,
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
>> > command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
>> > reliably for me.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
>> > off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
>> > couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
>> > tedious to go start it manually.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Chip
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-11 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi space capital SIEGHARD,

OK, that works. Thanks. It was only recently that I couldn't open tuning radio 
in the normal way. I wonder what happened

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 11:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Les,
>  
> Try saying “Open Tune”, that did it for me.
> Definitely odd, but typical SIRI nonsense.
> I still can’t believe when I sometimes ask SIRI to call a certain business 
> like the Sears department store how it finds and lists all Sears stores in a 
> 300 mile radius but not our local one which is half a mile away from my 
> house. The same goes for our British Columbia Liquor Store, it finds them in 
> all the town and cities some of which are hundreds of miles away since I live 
> in northern BC where towns are often far apart, but it won’t find my local BC 
> Liquor Store which is a 6 minute walk from my house.
> I really hope in iOS 11 SIRI will get major smarts, but then again I did hope 
> that last year. Now, however, with the rumour that Apple will release an 
> Echo/Google Home type speaker possibly also with a camera maybe they finally 
> make SIRI a lot smarter.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Les Kriegler
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>  
> I have an iPhone 6s Plus running the latest iOS version. I cannot open tune 
> in radio with Siri, no matter what I say.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 11, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Interesting.
> On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
> reader and it opens fine.
> On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
> it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
> Very odd.
> Richard
>  
> 
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
> 
> On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
> Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>  
> Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
> on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
> being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is 
> having this problem too.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> > command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> > reliably for me.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> > off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> > couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> > tedious to go start it manually.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Chip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-11 Thread Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎
Hello! I used siri and say "open KNFB reader" in hebrew and it does works. It's 
strange that siri doesn't work to me and for some users  doesn't.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-12 במאי 2017, בשעה 6:19, ‏‏Sieghard Weitzel ‏<siegh...@live.ca> כתב/ה:‬

> Hi Les,
>  
> Try saying “Open Tune”, that did it for me.
> Definitely odd, but typical SIRI nonsense.
> I still can’t believe when I sometimes ask SIRI to call a certain business 
> like the Sears department store how it finds and lists all Sears stores in a 
> 300 mile radius but not our local one which is half a mile away from my 
> house. The same goes for our British Columbia Liquor Store, it finds them in 
> all the town and cities some of which are hundreds of miles away since I live 
> in northern BC where towns are often far apart, but it won’t find my local BC 
> Liquor Store which is a 6 minute walk from my house.
> I really hope in iOS 11 SIRI will get major smarts, but then again I did hope 
> that last year. Now, however, with the rumour that Apple will release an 
> Echo/Google Home type speaker possibly also with a camera maybe they finally 
> make SIRI a lot smarter.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Les Kriegler
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>  
> I have an iPhone 6s Plus running the latest iOS version. I cannot open tune 
> in radio with Siri, no matter what I say.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 11, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Interesting.
> On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
> reader and it opens fine.
> On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
> it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
> Very odd.
> Richard
>  
> 
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
> 
> On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
> Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>  
> Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
> on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
> being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is 
> having this problem too.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> > command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> > reliably for me.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> > off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> > couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> > tedious to go start it manually.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Chip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Les,

Try saying “Open Tune”, that did it for me.
Definitely odd, but typical SIRI nonsense.
I still can’t believe when I sometimes ask SIRI to call a certain business like 
the Sears department store how it finds and lists all Sears stores in a 300 
mile radius but not our local one which is half a mile away from my house. The 
same goes for our British Columbia Liquor Store, it finds them in all the town 
and cities some of which are hundreds of miles away since I live in northern BC 
where towns are often far apart, but it won’t find my local BC Liquor Store 
which is a 6 minute walk from my house.
I really hope in iOS 11 SIRI will get major smarts, but then again I did hope 
that last year. Now, however, with the rumour that Apple will release an 
Echo/Google Home type speaker possibly also with a camera maybe they finally 
make SIRI a lot smarter.

Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

I have an iPhone 6s Plus running the latest iOS version. I cannot open tune in 
radio with Siri, no matter what I say.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 11, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Richard, same here, you just have to say “Open KNFB” and not “Open KNFB 
Reader”. I have it on my main home screen so I usually don’t use SIRI to open 
these apps since I can find them easily and quickly, but “Open KNFB” is shorter 
anyways.

Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader


Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard

Noun: trumpery
1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
2. Ornamental objects of no great value
This definition is from WordWeb


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6?

On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net<mailto:mulr...@centurylink.net>>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-11 Thread Les Kriegler
I have an iPhone 6s Plus running the latest iOS version. I cannot open tune in 
radio with Siri, no matter what I say.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting.
> On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
> reader and it opens fine.
> On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
> it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
> Very odd.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
> 
> On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali <jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of 
>> Michael D. Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:42:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader
>>  
>> Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the 
>> reader on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came 
>> out, that being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody 
>> else is having this problem too.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi all,
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
>> > command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
>> > reliably for me.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
>> > off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
>> > couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
>> > tedious to go start it manually.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Chip
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-11 Thread Richard Turner

Interesting.
On my iPod Touch 6th generation, I can say either, Open KNFB, or open KNFB 
reader and it opens fine.
On my iPhone 5s, if I say Open KNFB, it works, but if I say Open KNFB Reader, 
it says I don't seem to have an app by that name.
Very odd.
Richard


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On May 11, 2017, at 5:49 PM, jaan ali 
<jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com<mailto:jaanalioffic...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

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Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange 
> <lists3...@comcast.net<mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-11 Thread jaan ali
I am facing the same issue, now I use the search feature to find this app

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Subject: Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
>
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>
> Thanks,
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>
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> Chip
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Re: unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-11 Thread Michael D. Ulrich
Hi Chip, I too noticed the same thing going on with Mikey and that the reader 
on my 5S. I think this all started with the update that just came out, that 
being 10.31? Or something like that. I'd like to know if anybody else is having 
this problem too.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
> command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
> reliably for me.
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
> off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
> couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
> tedious to go start it manually.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
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unable to use Siri to start KNFB reader

2017-05-11 Thread Chip Orange
Hi all,

 

As the subject says, I've been unable lately to have Siri understand the
command "open KNFB Reader" or "start KNFB Reader".  This used to work
reliably for me.

 

Any suggestions as to what may be the issue?  I have this app in a folder
off the sixth home screen, and in its folder you have to pass through a
couple of screens before you find the icon for the app, so it's really
tedious to go start it manually.

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

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Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

2017-04-22 Thread Richard Turner

when you scan a page with paragraph breaks, you end up with one long paragraph.
If you scan a form, you end up with one long paragraph.
Hard returns are ignored so you end up with one long paragraph.
Apparently, Office Lens for free keeps much of the formatting, as does Prizmo, 
for $9.99.
Richard


> On Apr 22, 2017, at 5:14 AM, Mike Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I'm just curious; What is meant by KNFB's "Formatting" issue?
> What does that mean? I haven't seemed to have any problems, so I'd just like 
> to know what to look out for.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Richard Turner
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '
> 
> 
> Perhaps everyone should write supp...@knfbreader.com
> requesting that. I've been asking for that since it was released. 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 2:09 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I do wish they would address the formatting issue! now that we see other 
>> apps can do it, it would appear, there should be no problem for the KNFB 
>> reader app to follow suit.
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 21 Apr 2017, at 19:30, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
>>> - New app icon and splash screen added;
>>> - Czech user interface language added;
>>> - Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
>>> - The "volume up" button will now take a picture and the "volume down" 
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RE: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

2017-04-22 Thread Mike Ulrich
Hi all, I'm just curious; What is meant by KNFB's "Formatting" issue?
What does that mean? I haven't seemed to have any problems, so I'd just like to 
know what to look out for.

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Richard Turner
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Subject: Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '


Perhaps everyone should write supp...@knfbreader.com
requesting that. I've been asking for that since it was released. 
Richard


> On Apr 22, 2017, at 2:09 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I do wish they would address the formatting issue! now that we see other apps 
> can do it, it would appear, there should be no problem for the KNFB reader 
> app to follow suit.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 21 Apr 2017, at 19:30, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> 
>> KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
>> - New app icon and splash screen added;
>> - Czech user interface language added;
>> - Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
>> - The "volume up" button will now take a picture and the "volume down" 
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Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

2017-04-22 Thread Richard Turner

Perhaps everyone should write supp...@knfbreader.com
requesting that. I've been asking for that since it was released. 
Richard


> On Apr 22, 2017, at 2:09 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> I do wish they would address the formatting issue! now that we see other apps 
> can do it, it would appear, there should be no problem for the KNFB reader 
> app to follow suit.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 21 Apr 2017, at 19:30, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> 
>> KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
>> - New app icon and splash screen added;
>> - Czech user interface language added;
>> - Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
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Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

2017-04-22 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
I do wish they would address the formatting issue! now that we see other apps 
can do it, it would appear, there should be no problem for the KNFB reader app 
to follow suit.

Sandy

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> KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
> - New app icon and splash screen added;
> - Czech user interface language added;
> - Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
> - The "volume up" button will now take a picture and the "volume down" button 
> will execute field of view;
> - Fixes some minor issues with voice-over accessibility.
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KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

2017-04-21 Thread Richard Turner
KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
- New app icon and splash screen added;
- Czech user interface language added;
- Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
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RE: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

2017-03-05 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi Richard,
I have the KNFB app on my iPhone. I have now downloaded it to my pc. When I hit 
the scan image button the KNFB app closes and my pc goes back to the desktop. I 
emailed KNFB tech support and receive an email back saying their might be some 
issues with some scanner. Well I must be one of the lucky ones. Support said 
they would be working on an update to fix the issue.
Mr. Ed 

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Subject: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to any 
other OCR solution on Windows!
Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but if 
KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have an 
extremely long way to go.
I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.

I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
before the scanner is ready for the next page.
KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
files, the older MS-Word format.
When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
being able to make the document editable.
With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
Now, for my pet Peeve.
The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
page has just over half a page of text. 


OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.

For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber and 
Prizmo on the iPhone.
"" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
seems to be much improved.
I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., but 
I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
Richard


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Re: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

2017-03-05 Thread Richard Turner

I also use the split pages if I am scanning from a book so the two pages are 
separated. It would be nice if KNFB Reader could add that as well. 
Richard



"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when 
there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Paul Hunt <prhunt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello. Openbook has a check orientation feature. I use this feature to make 
> sure I'm inserting checks into my laser printer. This feature is one of my 
> requirements. 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to 
>> any other OCR solution on Windows!
>> Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but 
>> if KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they 
>> have an extremely long way to go.
>> I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary 
>> edition and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.
>> 
>> I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
>> As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
>> before the scanner is ready for the next page.
>> KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
>> files, the older MS-Word format.
>> When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
>> internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
>> being able to make the document editable.
>> With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
>> Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
>> Now, for my pet Peeve.
>> The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
>> The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. 
>> The page has just over half a page of text. 
>> 
>> 
>> OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.
>> 
>> For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber 
>> and Prizmo on the iPhone.
>> "" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
>> Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but 
>> Textgrabber seems to be much improved.
>> I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., 
>> but I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
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>> there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett
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Re: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

2017-03-04 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello. Openbook has a check orientation feature. I use this feature to make 
sure I'm inserting checks into my laser printer. This feature is one of my 
requirements. 

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to 
> any other OCR solution on Windows!
> Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but 
> if KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have 
> an extremely long way to go.
> I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
> and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.
> 
> I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
> As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
> before the scanner is ready for the next page.
> KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
> files, the older MS-Word format.
> When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
> internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
> being able to make the document editable.
> With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
> Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
> Now, for my pet Peeve.
> The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
> The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
> page has just over half a page of text. 
> 
> 
> OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.
> 
> For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber 
> and Prizmo on the iPhone.
> "" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
> Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
> seems to be much improved.
> I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., 
> but I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
> Richard
> 
> 
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KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

2017-03-04 Thread Richard Turner
KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to any 
other OCR solution on Windows!
Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but if 
KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have an 
extremely long way to go.
I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.

I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
before the scanner is ready for the next page.
KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
files, the older MS-Word format.
When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
being able to make the document editable.
With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
Now, for my pet Peeve.
The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
page has just over half a page of text. 


OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.

For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber and 
Prizmo on the iPhone.
"" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
seems to be much improved.
I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., but 
I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
Richard


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Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

2017-03-04 Thread Dave Mitchel
got it...thanks 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get 
it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

All you have to do is Google KNFB Reader and the website is search result 1. 
Sorry I can’t send the link, but I have to leave for work now and it’s super 
easy to find, actually, I think it’s just www.knfbreader.com, if I remember 
correctly

.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Mitchel 
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get 
it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

you got a link for the knfb website? 

thanks in advance 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 9:08 PM

To: m...@jfw.groups.io 

Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it 
now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Thought I post this both on Viphone and the Jaws list as I just heard about 
this special offer from the CSUN convention.

The KNFB Reader app for Windows 10 can be had for an introductory price of $20 
US or, here in Canada, for $23.19 + taxes. Apparently this offer is only good 
for today and tomorrow (March 3 and 4), after that the regular price will be 
$99 US just as KNFB Reader for iOS.

I am not sure how often I am going to use this on my Windows 10 laptop, but for 
that price this is a no-brainer for me and I grabbed it. This was the first 
time I bought something from the Windows Store. I actually went to it from a 
link on the KNFB Reader website so when the store opened it was already in the 
right place. The Jaws touch cursor came on automatically and I could easily 
arrow through the information and activate the buy button and confirm the 
purchase. I wasn’t sure if I had to enter credit card information, but 
apparently I have my Visa on file with them because it simply downloaded and 
installed and a minute or so later I received an email receipt from Microsoft 
which showed that it had been charged to my Visa.

I just opened it to look at the interface and it’s super simple, just a few 
buttons you can tab through, like Take Picture, a combo box to select your 
camera and a menu button. It showed the built-in webcam of my laptop since I 
have nothing else connected, but I assume it would recognize a Pearl just fine 
and work with it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: m...@jfw.groups.io [mailto:m...@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 8:07 PM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

 

And does it work with the Pearl camera?

Matthew

 


On Mar 3, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Claudia <claudiadr2...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would lso be interested in reading about this, as I have the KNFB Reader app. 
for Iphone but have never been able to get it to work accurately.

Claudia

 

 

On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

  Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a 
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam or 
a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an oCR 
solution.

  Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last 
month. 

  Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if 
scans are comparable to K1000? 

  Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch 
between programs and keyboard commands? 

  If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard 
commands, I may still be interested. 

  It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular 
price seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app

   

 

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RE: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

2017-03-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
All you have to do is Google KNFB Reader and the website is search result 1. 
Sorry I can’t send the link, but I have to leave for work now and it’s super 
easy to find, actually, I think it’s just 
www.knfbreader.com<http://www.knfbreader.com>, if I remember correctly
.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Mitchel
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get 
it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

you got a link for the knfb website?
thanks in advance

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 9:08 PM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io<mailto:m...@jfw.groups.io>
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it 
now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

Hi,

Thought I post this both on Viphone and the Jaws list as I just heard about 
this special offer from the CSUN convention.
The KNFB Reader app for Windows 10 can be had for an introductory price of $20 
US or, here in Canada, for $23.19 + taxes. Apparently this offer is only good 
for today and tomorrow (March 3 and 4), after that the regular price will be 
$99 US just as KNFB Reader for iOS.
I am not sure how often I am going to use this on my Windows 10 laptop, but for 
that price this is a no-brainer for me and I grabbed it. This was the first 
time I bought something from the Windows Store. I actually went to it from a 
link on the KNFB Reader website so when the store opened it was already in the 
right place. The Jaws touch cursor came on automatically and I could easily 
arrow through the information and activate the buy button and confirm the 
purchase. I wasn’t sure if I had to enter credit card information, but 
apparently I have my Visa on file with them because it simply downloaded and 
installed and a minute or so later I received an email receipt from Microsoft 
which showed that it had been charged to my Visa.
I just opened it to look at the interface and it’s super simple, just a few 
buttons you can tab through, like Take Picture, a combo box to select your 
camera and a menu button. It showed the built-in webcam of my laptop since I 
have nothing else connected, but I assume it would recognize a Pearl just fine 
and work with it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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And does it work with the Pearl camera?
Matthew


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<claudiadr2...@gmail.com<mailto:claudiadr2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I would lso be interested in reading about this, as I have the KNFB Reader app. 
for Iphone but have never been able to get it to work accurately.

Claudia



On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a 
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam or 
a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an oCR 
solution.
Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last month.
Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if 
scans are comparable to K1000?
Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch 
between programs and keyboard commands?
If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard commands, 
I may still be interested.
It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular price 
seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app


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Re: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

2017-03-04 Thread Dave Mitchel
you got a link for the knfb website? 
thanks in advance 

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Subject: Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it 
now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

Hi,

 

Thought I post this both on Viphone and the Jaws list as I just heard about 
this special offer from the CSUN convention.

The KNFB Reader app for Windows 10 can be had for an introductory price of $20 
US or, here in Canada, for $23.19 + taxes. Apparently this offer is only good 
for today and tomorrow (March 3 and 4), after that the regular price will be 
$99 US just as KNFB Reader for iOS.

I am not sure how often I am going to use this on my Windows 10 laptop, but for 
that price this is a no-brainer for me and I grabbed it. This was the first 
time I bought something from the Windows Store. I actually went to it from a 
link on the KNFB Reader website so when the store opened it was already in the 
right place. The Jaws touch cursor came on automatically and I could easily 
arrow through the information and activate the buy button and confirm the 
purchase. I wasn’t sure if I had to enter credit card information, but 
apparently I have my Visa on file with them because it simply downloaded and 
installed and a minute or so later I received an email receipt from Microsoft 
which showed that it had been charged to my Visa.

I just opened it to look at the interface and it’s super simple, just a few 
buttons you can tab through, like Take Picture, a combo box to select your 
camera and a menu button. It showed the built-in webcam of my laptop since I 
have nothing else connected, but I assume it would recognize a Pearl just fine 
and work with it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 8:07 PM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
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And does it work with the Pearl camera?

Matthew

 


On Mar 3, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Claudia <claudiadr2...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would lso be interested in reading about this, as I have the KNFB Reader app. 
for Iphone but have never been able to get it to work accurately.

Claudia

 

 

On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

  Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a 
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam or 
a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an oCR 
solution.

  Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last 
month. 

  Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if 
scans are comparable to K1000? 

  Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch 
between programs and keyboard commands? 

  If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard 
commands, I may still be interested. 

  It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular 
price seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app

   

 

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Special $20 US or $23.19 CAD for KNFB Reader for Windows 10, get it now, was: New KNFBReader app for Windows 10

2017-03-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

Thought I post this both on Viphone and the Jaws list as I just heard about 
this special offer from the CSUN convention.
The KNFB Reader app for Windows 10 can be had for an introductory price of $20 
US or, here in Canada, for $23.19 + taxes. Apparently this offer is only good 
for today and tomorrow (March 3 and 4), after that the regular price will be 
$99 US just as KNFB Reader for iOS.
I am not sure how often I am going to use this on my Windows 10 laptop, but for 
that price this is a no-brainer for me and I grabbed it. This was the first 
time I bought something from the Windows Store. I actually went to it from a 
link on the KNFB Reader website so when the store opened it was already in the 
right place. The Jaws touch cursor came on automatically and I could easily 
arrow through the information and activate the buy button and confirm the 
purchase. I wasn’t sure if I had to enter credit card information, but 
apparently I have my Visa on file with them because it simply downloaded and 
installed and a minute or so later I received an email receipt from Microsoft 
which showed that it had been charged to my Visa.
I just opened it to look at the interface and it’s super simple, just a few 
buttons you can tab through, like Take Picture, a combo box to select your 
camera and a menu button. It showed the built-in webcam of my laptop since I 
have nothing else connected, but I assume it would recognize a Pearl just fine 
and work with it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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And does it work with the Pearl camera?
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I would lso be interested in reading about this, as I have the KNFB Reader app. 
for Iphone but have never been able to get it to work accurately.

Claudia



On 3/1/2017 5:13 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
Don’t knowif others have come across it yet, but seems that there’s now a 
KNFBReader app available for Windows 10. If you have a laptop with a webcam or 
a stand-alone webcam or if you have a scanner it’s supposed to work as an oCR 
solution.
Of course my luck, I just got around to upgrading to Kurzweil1000 14 last month.
Anyway, for those who have downloaded it, can they comment on accuracy or if 
scans are comparable to K1000?
Also, does this app work with Jaws unlike K1000 where you have to switch 
between programs and keyboard commands?
If it takes away the step of switching between programs and keyboard commands, 
I may still be interested.
It’s on sale for $20.00 for  the next couple of days. Whereas the regular price 
seems to  be $100.00 like the iOS app


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RE: Effective use of KNFB reader

2017-02-17 Thread Alan Lemly
Turab,

I'd suggest you open the KNFB Reader app and on the main screen bottomline menu 
in the center, locate document type and double tap. This will open a picker 
item where you select between multi-column or single column document. My KNFB 
Reader seems to default to multi-column document type which works great when 
scanning something like a newspaper but not so great when you want the scanned 
page to be read left to right line by line, top to bottom. I believe you'd want 
the single column document type to get this result.

Richard is right about considering a scanning stand but try changing the 
document type first to see if the results are ordered more as you expect.

If you want to scan a multi-page document, place focus on the button just above 
the bottom right most button of select profile. The button just above it is 
batch mode is off. For scanning more than one page, double tap it and it 
becomes process multi-page document. Then you can proceed to take pictures of 
each page.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Effective use of KNFB reader

Hello guys
Have been using the KNFB reader since a few months but have not been able to 
make best use of it. In the sense that it does not read the entire page in the 
correct order, often mixing up lines. Also would like to learn how to scan and 
read multiple pages effectively.
Eagerly await constructive suggestions.
Best
Turab

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Re: Effective use of KNFB reader

2017-02-17 Thread Richard Turner

It sounds like you are not holding the phone high enough or level enough to get 
the entire page.
I'd suggest buying the FOPYDO Scanning Stand for the blind.
It will help with keeping the phone level and positioned at the correct height.
You can get it from Amazon, the Fopydo.com web site using pay pal; or through 
the NFB store.
It is $12 even through NFB, or add $3.00 shipping through Amazon and I think 
the Fopydo web site.
It is very light weight and easily folds up for portability.
If you read the user guide for KNFB Reader, you will learn how to save and add 
pages to a document.
HTH,
Richard


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> 
> Hello guys
> Have been using the KNFB reader since a few months but have not been
> able to make best use of it. In the sense that it does not read the
> entire page in the correct order, often mixing up lines. Also would
> like to learn how to scan and read multiple pages effectively.
> Eagerly await constructive suggestions.
> Best
> Turab
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Effective use of KNFB reader

2017-02-17 Thread turab chimthanawala
Hello guys
Have been using the KNFB reader since a few months but have not been
able to make best use of it. In the sense that it does not read the
entire page in the correct order, often mixing up lines. Also would
like to learn how to scan and read multiple pages effectively.
Eagerly await constructive suggestions.
Best
Turab

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Re: KNFB reader

2017-01-22 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi thank you.  I will try this as soon as I can get some time to work with 
this.  I greatly appreciate you and Sieghard’s help.  Everybody here is 
great!!.  Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: KNFB reader

Andrew,
Are you trying to do more than one page at a time?
If so, try turning on the Document Stand profile and turning on batch mode. You 
will have to double tap on take picture for the first page, then after that as 
you move one page away, and place another page on the stand, and nothing moves 
for a few seconds, your phone will beep, and it will take the next picture. 
Repeat those steps until you are done, then double tap the done button I think 
it is called.
If you are doing one page only, try Sieghard's method with the profile set to 
automatic.I think the process of starting with the phone flat on the document 
and raising it up allows the autofocus of the camera to know when the page is 
focused, where having it on the stand, doesn't work.
HTH,
Richard






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  Sorry, I have no idea then why this doesn’t work for you, you might want to 
ask their support, the only thing I do is to change the profile.

   

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  Subject: KNFB reader

   

  I have been playing with settings of all kinds with the KNFB reader.  I am 
using the latest IOS with the 6s but, I, for the Love of me cannot get the 
automatic feature to work.  I have the phone on the stand, the lense cover is 
not covered and I am certain that there is text visibleThe option is 
changed from manual to automatic but, nothing happens.  I have no problem with 
tapping on take picture.  I know this works but, I just don’t know what else to 
try.  Is there something possible in accessibility in General that needs to be 
turned on?  Thank you in advance if you can take the time to suggest a 
solution.  Andy and Shubert

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Re: KNFB reader

2017-01-22 Thread Richard Turner
Andrew,
Are you trying to do more than one page at a time?
If so, try turning on the Document Stand profile and turning on batch mode. You 
will have to double tap on take picture for the first page, then after that as 
you move one page away, and place another page on the stand, and nothing moves 
for a few seconds, your phone will beep, and it will take the next picture. 
Repeat those steps until you are done, then double tap the done button I think 
it is called.
If you are doing one page only, try Sieghard's method with the profile set to 
automatic.I think the process of starting with the phone flat on the document 
and raising it up allows the autofocus of the camera to know when the page is 
focused, where having it on the stand, doesn't work.
HTH,
Richard




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On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Sorry, I have no idea then why this doesn't work for you, you might want to ask 
their support, the only thing I do is to change the profile.

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Subject: KNFB reader

I have been playing with settings of all kinds with the KNFB reader.  I am 
using the latest IOS with the 6s but, I, for the Love of me cannot get the 
automatic feature to work.  I have the phone on the stand, the lense cover is 
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RE: KNFB reader

2017-01-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Sorry, I have no idea then why this doesn’t work for you, you might want to ask 
their support, the only thing I do is to change the profile.

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Subject: KNFB reader

I have been playing with settings of all kinds with the KNFB reader.  I am 
using the latest IOS with the 6s but, I, for the Love of me cannot get the 
automatic feature to work.  I have the phone on the stand, the lense cover is 
not covered and I am certain that there is text visibleThe option is 
changed from manual to automatic but, nothing happens.  I have no problem with 
tapping on take picture.  I know this works but, I just don’t know what else to 
try.  Is there something possible in accessibility in General that needs to be 
turned on?  Thank you in advance if you can take the time to suggest a 
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KNFB reader

2017-01-22 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
I have been playing with settings of all kinds with the KNFB reader.  I am 
using the latest IOS with the 6s but, I, for the Love of me cannot get the 
automatic feature to work.  I have the phone on the stand, the lense cover is 
not covered and I am certain that there is text visibleThe option is 
changed from manual to automatic but, nothing happens.  I have no problem with 
tapping on take picture.  I know this works but, I just don’t know what else to 
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turned on?  Thank you in advance if you can take the time to suggest a 
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RE: KNFB Reader

2017-01-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Not sure Andrew, it usually works for me. Once I lift up my phone off the paper 
it is on and which covers the camera I lift it straight up about a foot or so 
and Voiceover then says “Text detected, hold still” and then the picture is 
taken.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

Hi Sieghard, thank you for the reply.  Yes, I did have my finger on the 
lense cover, that is how I found out that it announced.  That didn’t happen 
before but, I like it.  Now, as far as the Profile with the automatic picture 
taking, I tried that but, I couldn’t seem to get the camera to auto take a 
picture.  Is there something I could be doing incorrectly?   I noticed that 
batch mode is off.  Would that be part of the problem?  Thanks so much for your 
wisdom and your valuable time.  Andy and Shubert

From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

I use KNFB Reader with the profile that automatically takes a picture when it 
sees text. I always put my iPhone down on the page I want to scan and start 
KNFB Reader, then it will say “Lens covered” because it is covered. Maybe yours 
was too, maybe you had your finger over it accidently?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Hi, the other day I noticed that the KNFB reader announced that the lense cover 
was covered.  I don’t know how that happened but, now, after rebooting the App, 
it stopped.  Also, the voice changedI know how to change that but, where do 
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Re: KNFB Reader

2017-01-21 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi Sieghard, thank you for the reply.  Yes, I did have my finger on the 
lense cover, that is how I found out that it announced.  That didn’t happen 
before but, I like it.  Now, as far as the Profile with the automatic picture 
taking, I tried that but, I couldn’t seem to get the camera to auto take a 
picture.  Is there something I could be doing incorrectly?   I noticed that 
batch mode is off.  Would that be part of the problem?  Thanks so much for your 
wisdom and your valuable time.  Andy and Shubert

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

I use KNFB Reader with the profile that automatically takes a picture when it 
sees text. I always put my iPhone down on the page I want to scan and start 
KNFB Reader, then it will say “Lens covered” because it is covered. Maybe yours 
was too, maybe you had your finger over it accidently?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Subject: KNFB Reader

 

Hi, the other day I noticed that the KNFB reader announced that the lense cover 
was covered.  I don’t know how that happened but, now, after rebooting the App, 
it stopped.  Also, the voice changedI know how to change that but, where do 
you have other information announced such as the lenxe cover being covered?  
Thank you.  Andy and Shubert

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RE: KNFB Reader

2017-01-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I use KNFB Reader with the profile that automatically takes a picture when it 
sees text. I always put my iPhone down on the page I want to scan and start 
KNFB Reader, then it will say “Lens covered” because it is covered. Maybe yours 
was too, maybe you had your finger over it accidently?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: KNFB Reader

Hi, the other day I noticed that the KNFB reader announced that the lense cover 
was covered.  I don’t know how that happened but, now, after rebooting the App, 
it stopped.  Also, the voice changedI know how to change that but, where do 
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Thank you.  Andy and Shubert
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KNFB Reader

2017-01-21 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi, the other day I noticed that the KNFB reader announced that the lense cover 
was covered.  I don’t know how that happened but, now, after rebooting the App, 
it stopped.  Also, the voice changedI know how to change that but, where do 
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Thank you.  Andy and Shubert
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RE: KNFB Reader and Gift Cards

2017-01-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If KNFB Reader can't read it then I doubt anything else can. You may have to 
use Be My Eyes or that other app (can't remember the name right now) which 
connects you with a real person and then show then the gift card via your 
phone's camera or, if you have friends or family members with iPhones just call 
them via Facetime and ask them to take a look. I assume you are trying to get 
the gift card number? iTunes gift cards do have a barcode and can be scanned 
with the camera, not sure if others do, but that could be an option if the 
company where the gift card is from offers the option to redeem the card in an 
app or online using the camera.

Regards,
Sieghard

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All,

Does anyone know if there's a way to get the KNFB Reader to read gift cards to 
stores? I've tried it a couple of times without a lot of luck. If it can't, is 
there anything that can like the various money reader apps?

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KNFB Reader and Gift Cards

2017-01-21 Thread kelby carlson
All,

Does anyone know if there's a way to get the KNFB Reader to read gift
cards to stores? I've tried it a couple of times without a lot of
luck. If it can't, is there anything that can like the various money
reader apps?

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RE: Query regarding KNFB reader

2017-01-21 Thread Richard Turner
Once KNFB Reader starts reading, there is a speed adjustment button on the 
lower part of the screen.  A two finger double tap will pause the speech, then 
you could adjust the speed for that document.
Also, on either side of the play button, is a button for previous and next 
sentence.  Or, you can touch the screen and find the place you want to read 
from and use VoiceOver to read it, but that is awkward at best.

Also, if you go into settings, in the Reader section, you can set the default 
speed, you could also turn off automatic reading so you would have to hit the 
play button to start it reading or just use the next sentence button to read 
one sentence at a time.
You could also turn off the read in background setting so it won't keep reading 
when you switch to another app or just hit the home button.

HTH,
Richard
 
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Subject: Query regarding KNFB reader

Hello guys
Hope this mail finds you well.
Wish to know of any way to adjust the text read out by KNFB reader, in
the sense that after taking a pic it keeps reading at a particular
pitch and a certain speed. Is there any way to change the speed or to
read from a particular line?
Best
Turab

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Query regarding KNFB reader

2017-01-21 Thread turab chimthanawala
Hello guys
Hope this mail finds you well.
Wish to know of any way to adjust the text read out by KNFB reader, in
the sense that after taking a pic it keeps reading at a particular
pitch and a certain speed. Is there any way to change the speed or to
read from a particular line?
Best
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RE: getting started with knfb reader

2016-12-27 Thread Chip Orange
Donald,

OK, never-mind my earlier question.

Also, in case you aren't aware, you can press the down volume arrow key to take 
the picture (which works best for me I think, since my fingers holding the 
phone are close to there).

Hth,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald Raikes
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Hi everyone,

Thank you again for all the suggestions.  What I discovered was that I
was covering the lense with my finger when trying to take a picture.
I don't remember which setting I changed that allowed me to discover
that I was covering the lense but knfb reader said that the lense was
covered.  I also printed a standard .txt file from my computer to use
as a test page.

I have successfully scanned and read it several times. I also
discovered that the split tap gesture is most successful for me to
take the picture.

On 12/23/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey there, Sieghard. I just wanted to let you know that I think your entire
> message didn't come through to the list. You just had a one-liner.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies
>> people get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on
>> one opinion don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know
>> including myself get fantastic results. You can always find examples where
>> it may not work, the fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best
>> and most easy to use OCR app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a
>> couple of times a year so you have to decide if you want to wait for one
>> of these sales or if paying full price is worth it to you. If you are not
>> in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60
>> or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on
>> sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% off you
>> essentially get the app for almost half price.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this
>> app since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say,
>> perhaps, I don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a
>> little vision. I would say, to a new user, do the following:
>> 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you
>> are holding the phone nice and horizontal.
>> 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about
>> shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC
>> display screen.
>> 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things.
>> place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the
>> centre of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if
>> you need help)  Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.
>> 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the
>> phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not
>> buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.
>>
>> Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera
>> aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the
>> shot!!
>>
>> Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I
>> have given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have
>> some success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking.
>>
>> Sandy.
>>
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>
>> On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month
>> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
>> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial
>> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes
>> down quite a bit further in price.
>> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and
>> it’s also sensitive to lighting 

RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-27 Thread Chip Orange
Donald,

Yes, it is quite cool; did you do anything in particular "to get it working?"

Thanks,

Chip



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald Raikes
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

Just tried reading a laptop screen and it worked pretty well! this app
is quite cool now that I got it working :-)

On 12/26/16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> i would not be surprised if it couldn't do more than 50 pages at a time.
> That is a lot of processing.
> I have not tried anything that long.
> Richard
>
>
> A guy walks into a bar. He says, "Ouch
>
> On Dec 24, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How many pages can be scanned with knfb in bache mode? I heard it can
>> only 50 pages.
>>
>>> On 12/25/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from
>>> someone else.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip,
>>>
>>> Have you had any luck with Braigo?
>>>
>>> I couldn’t get it to work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very odd.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Chip Orange
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to
>>> mention
>>> Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is
>>> quite
>>> a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you
>>> get
>>> KNFB.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of
>>> KNFB
>>> Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has
>>> benefited you'll etc?
>>>
>>> El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:
>>>
>>> The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned
>>> with
>>> my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started
>>> to
>>> pop up.
>>>
>>> Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like
>>> food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes,
>>> you
>>> want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it
>>> an
>>> exercise in frustration.
>>>
>>> The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about
>>> is
>>> to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
>>> To: 'ViPone list'
>>> Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
>>> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it
>>> into
>>> one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend
>>> around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple
>>> hundred
>>> on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you 

Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-27 Thread Donald Raikes
Just tried reading a laptop screen and it worked pretty well! this app
is quite cool now that I got it working :-)

On 12/26/16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> i would not be surprised if it couldn't do more than 50 pages at a time.
> That is a lot of processing.
> I have not tried anything that long.
> Richard
>
>
> A guy walks into a bar. He says, "Ouch
>
> On Dec 24, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How many pages can be scanned with knfb in bache mode? I heard it can
>> only 50 pages.
>>
>>> On 12/25/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from
>>> someone else.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip,
>>>
>>> Have you had any luck with Braigo?
>>>
>>> I couldn’t get it to work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very odd.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Chip Orange
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to
>>> mention
>>> Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is
>>> quite
>>> a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you
>>> get
>>> KNFB.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of
>>> KNFB
>>> Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has
>>> benefited you'll etc?
>>>
>>> El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:
>>>
>>> The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned
>>> with
>>> my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started
>>> to
>>> pop up.
>>>
>>> Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like
>>> food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes,
>>> you
>>> want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it
>>> an
>>> exercise in frustration.
>>>
>>> The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about
>>> is
>>> to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
>>> To: 'ViPone list'
>>> Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
>>> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it
>>> into
>>> one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend
>>> around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple
>>> hundred
>>> on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber
>>> or
>>> even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to
>>> computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for
>>&g

RE: getting started with knfb reader

2016-12-27 Thread Richard Turner
You can also use the up volume button on the side to take the picture if that 
helps at all.

Glad you got it sorted out.

Enjoy,
Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald Raikes
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Hi everyone,

Thank you again for all the suggestions.  What I discovered was that I
was covering the lense with my finger when trying to take a picture.
I don't remember which setting I changed that allowed me to discover
that I was covering the lense but knfb reader said that the lense was
covered.  I also printed a standard .txt file from my computer to use
as a test page.

I have successfully scanned and read it several times. I also
discovered that the split tap gesture is most successful for me to
take the picture.

On 12/23/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey there, Sieghard. I just wanted to let you know that I think your entire
> message didn't come through to the list. You just had a one-liner.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies
>> people get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on
>> one opinion don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know
>> including myself get fantastic results. You can always find examples where
>> it may not work, the fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best
>> and most easy to use OCR app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a
>> couple of times a year so you have to decide if you want to wait for one
>> of these sales or if paying full price is worth it to you. If you are not
>> in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60
>> or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on
>> sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% off you
>> essentially get the app for almost half price.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this
>> app since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say,
>> perhaps, I don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a
>> little vision. I would say, to a new user, do the following:
>> 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you
>> are holding the phone nice and horizontal.
>> 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about
>> shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC
>> display screen.
>> 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things.
>> place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the
>> centre of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if
>> you need help)  Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.
>> 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the
>> phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not
>> buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.
>>
>> Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera
>> aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the
>> shot!!
>>
>> Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I
>> have given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have
>> some success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking.
>>
>> Sandy.
>>
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>
>> On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month
>> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
>> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial
>> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes
>> down quite a bit further in price.
>> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and
>> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting
>> gives it trouble because of their color profile or 

Re: getting started with knfb reader

2016-12-27 Thread Donald Raikes
Hi everyone,

Thank you again for all the suggestions.  What I discovered was that I
was covering the lense with my finger when trying to take a picture.
I don't remember which setting I changed that allowed me to discover
that I was covering the lense but knfb reader said that the lense was
covered.  I also printed a standard .txt file from my computer to use
as a test page.

I have successfully scanned and read it several times. I also
discovered that the split tap gesture is most successful for me to
take the picture.

On 12/23/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey there, Sieghard. I just wanted to let you know that I think your entire
> message didn't come through to the list. You just had a one-liner.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies
>> people get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on
>> one opinion don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know
>> including myself get fantastic results. You can always find examples where
>> it may not work, the fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best
>> and most easy to use OCR app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a
>> couple of times a year so you have to decide if you want to wait for one
>> of these sales or if paying full price is worth it to you. If you are not
>> in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60
>> or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on
>> sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% off you
>> essentially get the app for almost half price.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this
>> app since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say,
>> perhaps, I don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a
>> little vision. I would say, to a new user, do the following:
>> 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you
>> are holding the phone nice and horizontal.
>> 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about
>> shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC
>> display screen.
>> 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things.
>> place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the
>> centre of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if
>> you need help)  Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.
>> 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the
>> phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not
>> buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.
>>
>> Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera
>> aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the
>> shot!!
>>
>> Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I
>> have given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have
>> some success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking.
>>
>> Sandy.
>>
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>
>> On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month
>> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
>> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial
>> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes
>> down quite a bit further in price.
>> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and
>> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting
>> gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you
>> have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his
>> dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device
>> above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is
>> something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand
>> why they’re no

Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-26 Thread Richard Turner

i would not be surprised if it couldn't do more than 50 pages at a time. That 
is a lot of processing.
I have not tried anything that long.
Richard


A guy walks into a bar. He says, "Ouch

On Dec 24, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How many pages can be scanned with knfb in bache mode? I heard it can
> only 50 pages.
> 
>> On 12/25/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from
>> someone else.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chip,
>> 
>> Have you had any luck with Braigo?
>> 
>> I couldn’t get it to work.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Very odd.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention
>> Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite
>> a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get
>> KNFB.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB
>> Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has
>> benefited you'll etc?
>> 
>> El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:
>> 
>> The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with
>> my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to
>> pop up.
>> 
>> Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like
>> food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you
>> want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an
>> exercise in frustration.
>> 
>> The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is
>> to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
>> To: 'ViPone list'
>> Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
>> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into
>> one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend
>> around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred
>> on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or
>> even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to
>> computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for
>> paragraphs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
How many pages can be scanned with knfb in bache mode? I heard it can
only 50 pages.

On 12/25/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from
> someone else.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>
>
>
> Chip,
>
> Have you had any luck with Braigo?
>
> I couldn’t get it to work.
>
>
>
> Very odd.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>
>
>
> Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention
> Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite
> a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get
> KNFB.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>
>
>
> It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB
> Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has
> benefited you'll etc?
>
> El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:
>
> The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with
> my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to
> pop up.
>
> Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like
> food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you
> want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an
> exercise in frustration.
>
> The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is
> to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
> To: 'ViPone list'
> Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>
>
>
> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into
> one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend
> around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred
> on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>
>
>
> If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or
> even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.
>
>
>
> In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to
> computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for
> paragraphs.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> “A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”
>
>
>
>
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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Chip Orange
I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from someone 
else.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

Chip,

Have you had any luck with Braigo?

I couldn’t get it to work.

 

Very odd.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention 
Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite a 
lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get KNFB.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB 
Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has benefited 
you'll etc?

El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió: 

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up. 

Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration. 

The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox. 

  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money 

  

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner. 

  

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money. 

  

In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs. 

  

Richard 

  

“A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!” 

  

  

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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
Chip,
Have you had any luck with Braigo?
I couldn’t get it to work.

Very odd.

Richard


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Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention 
Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite a 
lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get KNFB.

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB 
Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has benefited 
you'll etc?

El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up.

Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration.

The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money



To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner.



If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.



In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs.



Richard



“A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”





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Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Gerardo Corripio
 Yes esepcially here in Mexico it's $1700 Mexican! So yes thanks for 
the alternatives! I'll try especially Braigo out, hoping it works with 
Spanish materials.


El 24/12/2016 02:09 p.m., Chip Orange escribió:


Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to 
mention Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand 
$100 is quite a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for 
you until you get KNFB.


Chip

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Gerardo Corripio

*Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of 
KNFB Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it 
has benefited you'll etc?


El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  
mentioned with my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update 
where they started to pop up.


Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick 
like  food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. 
Sometimes, you want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and 
crashing makes it  an exercise in frustration.


The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB 
about  is to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
*To:* 'ViPone list'
*Subject:* KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text 
recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save 
it into one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have 
to spend around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a 
couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.


If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, 
TextGrabber or even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less 
money.


In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to 
computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for 
paragraphs.


Richard

“A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”

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Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention 
Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite a 
lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get KNFB.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB 
Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has benefited 
you'll etc?

El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió: 

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up. 

Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration. 

The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox. 

  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money 

  

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner. 

  

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money. 

  

In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs. 

  

Richard 

  

“A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!” 

  

  

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Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Gerardo Corripio
 It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of 
KNFB Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it 
has benefited you'll etc?


El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:


The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  
mentioned with my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update 
where they started to pop up.


Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick 
like  food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. 
Sometimes, you want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and 
crashing makes it  an exercise in frustration.


The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB 
about  is to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
*To:* 'ViPone list'
*Subject:* KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text 
recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save 
it into one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have 
to spend around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a 
couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.


If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, 
TextGrabber or even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less 
money.


In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to 
computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for 
paragraphs.


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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I’m sure if enough people suggest support for Google Drive andmaybe OneDrive 
KNFB may implement it in a future version.
Interestingly enough I don’t ever recall KNFB kicking me out except I think 
when the iOS 10 beta first came out and KNFB didn’t work at all, ever since the 
official update came out which supported iOS 10 in September I have no issues 
whatsoever.

Regards,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up.
Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration.
The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner.

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.

In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs.

Richard

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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
What would be even better, at leat for those having trouble, is if it would 
send crash reports to the developers.
I’ve not had any of those issues on a iPhone 5S, 6, 6S or iPod Touch 6th gen.  
But for those having these issues, some way for it to send crash reports could 
help them identify what is going on.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up.
Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration.
The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner.

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.

In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs.

Richard

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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Cristóbal
The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up. 

Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration.

The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner.

 

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.

 

In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs.

 

Richard

 

“A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”

 

 

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Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Devin Prater
I wonder if it can scan comic books well?

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 11:25 AM Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
wrote:

> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it
> into one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to
> spend around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple
> hundred on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>
>
>
> If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber
> or even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.
>
>
>
> In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to
> computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for
> paragraphs.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> “A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”
>
>
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KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

2016-12-24 Thread Richard Turner
To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
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If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.

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scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs.

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Re: getting started with knfb reader

2016-12-23 Thread englishrider91
Hey there, Sieghard. I just wanted to let you know that I think your entire 
message didn't come through to the list. You just had a one-liner.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
>  
> It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies people 
> get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on one opinion 
> don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know including myself get 
> fantastic results. You can always find examples where it may not work, the 
> fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best and most easy to use OCR 
> app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a couple of times a year so 
> you have to decide if you want to wait for one of these sales or if paying 
> full price is worth it to you. If you are not in a hurry I suggest you look 
> for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60 or $80 worth of them and then 
> when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on sale for 25% off and you use gift 
> cards purchased at 20% off you essentially get the app for almost half price.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>  
> Hi there,
>  
> Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app 
> since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I 
> don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. 
> I would say, to a new user, do the following:
> 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are 
> holding the phone nice and horizontal.
> 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about 
> shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display 
> screen.
> 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. 
> place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre 
> of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need 
> help)  Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.
> 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the 
> phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not 
> buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.
>  
> Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera 
> aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!!
>  
> Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have 
> given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some 
> success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking. 
>  
> Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for 
> $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial 
> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down 
> quite a bit further in price.
> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and 
> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting 
> gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you 
> have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his 
> dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device 
> above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is 
> something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why 
> they’re not getting any results.
> He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even 
> if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats 
> you shouldn’t expect too much.
> Evan
>  
> From: Michael Maslo
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>  
> Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this 
> will go on sale for Christmas?
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote:
> Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not 
> hearing results immediately.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on beh

Braigo? Re: getting started with knfb reader

2016-12-23 Thread Gerardo Corripio
 Anyone who tried the Braigo app, does it recognize text in Spanish for 
instance? Thanks for the tip!


El 23/12/2016 06:30 p.m., Chip Orange escribió:

Hi Donald,

There's another OCR app, designed especially for the blind, which is free as 
well.  It's name is Braigo.

I haven't spent much time with it myself, but if KNFB isn't an option for you, 
or you can't get it to work, I'd give this a try.

Hth,

Chip



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald Raikes
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.  So far none of them has helped.

Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader?  I sometimes need to
read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good
things about this app.

Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ?

On 12/22/16, Evan Reese<ment...@dslextreme.com>  wrote:

No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month
for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
 From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial
vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down
quite a bit further in price.
It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and
it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting
gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you
have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his
dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device
above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is
something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand
why they’re not getting any results.
He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even
if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of
caveats you shouldn’t expect too much.
Evan

From: Michael Maslo
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this
will go on sale for Christmas?

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
<pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com>  wrote:

   Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not
hearing results immediately.


   
   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com]
   Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

   Try holding your phone higher

   from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
   I've found that about six inches is good.
   On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote:
   >  Hello,
   >
   >  Recently I decided  I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to
   >  read product packaging.
   >
   >  I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader
   >  to recognize any text.  I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD
   >  cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text.
   >
   >  According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I
   >  never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view.
   >
   >  Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my
money?
   >

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RE: getting started with knfb reader

2016-12-23 Thread Chip Orange
Hi Donald,

There's another OCR app, designed especially for the blind, which is free as 
well.  It's name is Braigo.

I haven't spent much time with it myself, but if KNFB isn't an option for you, 
or you can't get it to work, I'd give this a try.

Hth,

Chip



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald Raikes
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.  So far none of them has helped.

Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader?  I sometimes need to
read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good
things about this app.

Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ?

On 12/22/16, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month
> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial
> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down
> quite a bit further in price.
> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and
> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting
> gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you
> have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his
> dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device
> above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is
> something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand
> why they’re not getting any results.
> He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even
> if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of
> caveats you shouldn’t expect too much.
> Evan
>
> From: Michael Maslo
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>
> Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this
> will go on sale for Christmas?
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote:
>
>   Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not
> hearing results immediately.
>
>
>   
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of
> Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com]
>   Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader
>
>   Try holding your phone higher
>
>   from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
>   I've found that about six inches is good.
>   On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote:
>   > Hello,
>   >
>   > Recently I decided  I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to
>   > read product packaging.
>   >
>   > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader
>   > to recognize any text.  I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD
>   > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text.
>   >
>   > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I
>   > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view.
>   >
>   > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my
> money?
>   >
>
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Re: getting started with knfb reader

2016-12-23 Thread Evan Reese
Well, I’ll be visiting the friend of mine who has it over the new year, so I’ll 
get a chance to get a firsthand look at it, keeping in mind Sandy’s suggestions.
Evan


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: getting started with knfb reader

Hi Michael,

 

It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies people 
get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on one opinion 
don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know including myself get 
fantastic results. You can always find examples where it may not work, the fact 
is that for a blind user it is by far the best and most easy to use OCR app out 
there. It seems to go on sale at least a couple of times a year so you have to 
decide if you want to wait for one of these sales or if paying full price is 
worth it to you. If you are not in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on 
iTunes gift cards, buy $60 or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale 
buy it. If it goes on sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% 
off you essentially get the app for almost half price.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

 

Hi there,

 

Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app 
since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I 
don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. I 
would say, to a new user, do the following:

1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are 
holding the phone nice and horizontal.

2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about 
shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display 
screen.

3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. 
place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre of 
the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need help)  
Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.

4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the 
phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not 
buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.

 

Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera aperture. 
Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!!

 

Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have 
given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some success, 
you will do these things naturally, without thinking. 

 

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

  No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for 
$65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.

  From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial 
vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down 
quite a bit further in price.

  It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and 
it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting 
gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have 
a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, 
and you put a document down on the table and hold your device above the 
document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that 
might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not 
getting any results. 

  He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even 
if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats 
you shouldn’t expect too much.

  Evan

   

  From: Michael Maslo 

  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

   

  Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this 
will go on sale for Christmas? 

  On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
<pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote:

Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not 
hearing results immediately.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Try holding your phone higher

from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
I've found that a

RE: getting started with knfb reader

2016-12-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Michael,

It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies people 
get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on one opinion 
don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know including myself get 
fantastic results. You can always find examples where it may not work, the fact 
is that for a blind user it is by far the best and most easy to use OCR app out 
there. It seems to go on sale at least a couple of times a year so you have to 
decide if you want to wait for one of these sales or if paying full price is 
worth it to you. If you are not in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on 
iTunes gift cards, buy $60 or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale 
buy it. If it goes on sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% 
off you essentially get the app for almost half price.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Hi there,

Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app 
since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I 
don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. I 
would say, to a new user, do the following:
1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are 
holding the phone nice and horizontal.
2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about 
shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display 
screen.
3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. 
place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre of 
the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need help)  
Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper.
4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the 
phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not 
buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text.

Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera aperture. 
Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!!

Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have 
given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some success, 
you will do these things naturally, without thinking.

Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese 
<ment...@dslextreme.com<mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for 
$65, but it went back up to full price on December 1.
>From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial 
>vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down 
>quite a bit further in price.
It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and it’s 
also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting gives it 
trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have a light 
above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, and you 
put a document down on the table and hold your device above the document, it 
can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that might not occur 
to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not getting any results.
He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even if 
lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats you 
shouldn’t expect too much.
Evan

From: Michael Maslo<mailto:michaelmasl...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will 
go on sale for Christmas?
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
<pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com<mailto:pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com>> 
wrote:
Have you turned batch mode off?  If not, this could be why you are not hearing 
results immediately.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] on behalf of Gordon 
[gor...@gordonradio.com<mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader

Try holding your phone higher

from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results.
I've found that about six inches is good.
On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote:
> Hello,
>
> R

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