RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Carolyn Arnold]

I finally did too, although I am a one not to even try to find a bottom post. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

I normally don't try to find messages that are bottom posted, but I looked at a 
couple of Wayne's emails yesterday and never even found anything at the end of 
his messages.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
Conger
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

Wayne,

Your responses are ending up at the bottom of the thread and not up with your 
signature.

Vivian and Sallie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Scott
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:

Wayne,

Not sure if others are having this issue but your last 4 messages didn't 
seem to have your message except your signature.

Vivian and Sallie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Scott
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that 
I can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can 
read the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure 
that says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I 
did a screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this 
battery for about two years.

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  
wrote:

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, 
it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 
that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because 
of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the 
battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[kelby carlson]

The other thing I'm wondering is if some recent updates to apps that are 
compatible with iOS 13 might be draining the battery quickly without me knowing 
it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 4 hours of running Soundscape and the battery going from 100% to 75% would 
> certainly not surprise nor alarm me.
> If you think something is wrong you may have to try and visit an Apple Store 
> and get them to check your phone, I believe they can even do certain 
> diagnostics if you call Apple phone support.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
> Raikes
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
> 
> For what it's worth, I have been having the same problem with the rapid drain 
> and slow charge of the battery on my iPhone 8.  After resetting the network 
> and rebooting the phone it was still happening.
> 
> After turning off battery optimization as was suggested earlier in this 
> thread,  the battery charged from 60% to 100% in about an hour, and then was 
> down to 75% after 4 hours of being unplugged. However during a lot of that 
> time Microsoft SoundScape was running so I could get information on where I 
> was walking.
> 
> This is opposed to draining from 100% to 60% in about 3 hours of letting the 
> phone sit on my desk not doing anything.
> 
>> On 10/15/19, Mr. Ed  wrote:
>> Hi Wayne,
>> There is nothing on your email accept your name. My friend had the 
>> same issue with his gmail account on his iPhone. When he sent messages 
>> there was nothing being sent even though voice over on his end read 
>> that what he had dictated was there but when the message was sent 
>> there is nothing in the email.
>> Mr. Ed
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Wayne Scott
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Have you rebooted the phone and, if that didn't help, tried a Reset 
>> Network Settings?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> kelby carlson
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>> 
>> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
>> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can 
>> often lose at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have 
>> it plugged in, it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or 
>> so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not 
>> running iOS 13 yet because of the bug with ending calls and losing 
>> speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the lightning port, 
>> because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
>> However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can 
>> actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is 
>> at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Sieghard Weitzel]

4 hours of running Soundscape and the battery going from 100% to 75% would 
certainly not surprise nor alarm me.
If you think something is wrong you may have to try and visit an Apple Store 
and get them to check your phone, I believe they can even do certain 
diagnostics if you call Apple phone support.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Raikes
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

For what it's worth, I have been having the same problem with the rapid drain 
and slow charge of the battery on my iPhone 8.  After resetting the network and 
rebooting the phone it was still happening.

After turning off battery optimization as was suggested earlier in this thread, 
 the battery charged from 60% to 100% in about an hour, and then was down to 
75% after 4 hours of being unplugged. However during a lot of that time 
Microsoft SoundScape was running so I could get information on where I was 
walking.

This is opposed to draining from 100% to 60% in about 3 hours of letting the 
phone sit on my desk not doing anything.

On 10/15/19, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> There is nothing on your email accept your name. My friend had the 
> same issue with his gmail account on his iPhone. When he sent messages 
> there was nothing being sent even though voice over on his end read 
> that what he had dictated was there but when the message was sent 
> there is nothing in the email.
> Mr. Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Wayne Scott
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>
>
>
> Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Have you rebooted the phone and, if that didn't help, tried a Reset 
> Network Settings?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kelby carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>
> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can 
> often lose at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have 
> it plugged in, it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or 
> so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not 
> running iOS 13 yet because of the bug with ending calls and losing 
> speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the lightning port, 
> because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
> However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can 
> actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is 
> at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I normally don't try to find messages that are bottom posted, but I looked at a 
couple of Wayne's emails yesterday and never even found anything at the end of 
his messages.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
Conger
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

Wayne,

Your responses are ending up at the bottom of the thread and not up with your 
signature.

Vivian and Sallie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Scott
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:

Wayne,

Not sure if others are having this issue but your last 4 messages didn't seem 
to have your message except your signature.

Vivian and Sallie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Scott
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I 
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read 
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that 
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I did a 
screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this battery 
for about two years.

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[kelby carlson]

I am not running iOS 13 yet, so unfortunately I cannot turn battery 
optimization off. I think the battery case I tested last week may have damaged 
the battery somehow, but I don't know how and I certainly don't know the way of 
fixing it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:40 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> 
> For what it's worth, I have been having the same problem with the
> rapid drain and slow charge of the battery on my iPhone 8.  After
> resetting the network and rebooting the phone it was still happening.
> 
> After turning off battery optimization as was suggested earlier in
> this thread,  the battery charged from 60% to 100% in about an hour,
> and then was down to 75% after 4 hours of being unplugged. However
> during a lot of that time Microsoft SoundScape was running so I could
> get information on where I was walking.
> 
> This is opposed to draining from 100% to 60% in about 3 hours of
> letting the phone sit on my desk not doing anything.
> 
>> On 10/15/19, Mr. Ed  wrote:
>> Hi Wayne,
>> There is nothing on your email accept your name. My friend had the same
>> issue with his gmail account on his iPhone. When he sent messages there was
>> nothing being sent even though voice over on his end read that what he had
>> dictated was there but when the message was sent there is nothing in the
>> email.
>> Mr. Ed
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Wayne Scott
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Have you rebooted the phone and, if that didn't help, tried a Reset Network
>> Settings?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby
>> carlson
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>> 
>> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely
>> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose
>> at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in,
>> it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7
>> that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because
>> of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a
>> problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the
>> wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to
>> iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the
>> battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Donald Raikes]

For what it's worth, I have been having the same problem with the
rapid drain and slow charge of the battery on my iPhone 8.  After
resetting the network and rebooting the phone it was still happening.

After turning off battery optimization as was suggested earlier in
this thread,  the battery charged from 60% to 100% in about an hour,
and then was down to 75% after 4 hours of being unplugged. However
during a lot of that time Microsoft SoundScape was running so I could
get information on where I was walking.

This is opposed to draining from 100% to 60% in about 3 hours of
letting the phone sit on my desk not doing anything.

On 10/15/19, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> There is nothing on your email accept your name. My friend had the same
> issue with his gmail account on his iPhone. When he sent messages there was
> nothing being sent even though voice over on his end read that what he had
> dictated was there but when the message was sent there is nothing in the
> email.
> Mr. Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Scott
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>
>
>
> Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Have you rebooted the phone and, if that didn't help, tried a Reset Network
> Settings?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby
> carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>
> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely
> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose
> at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in,
> it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7
> that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because
> of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a
> problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the
> wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to
> iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the
> battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Wayne,
There is nothing on your email accept your name. My friend had the same issue 
with his gmail account on his iPhone. When he sent messages there was nothing 
being sent even though voice over on his end read that what he had dictated was 
there but when the message was sent there is nothing in the email.
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Scott
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Have you rebooted the phone and, if that didn't help, tried a Reset Network 
Settings?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Feliciano Godoy]

Kelby,
Is your peak performance capability  section  displaying normal  peak 
performance? Check by going to your iPhone settings, battery, and battery 
health.

There, it will indicate that or it will let you know that it isn’t. If it is 
not supporting peak performance, your battery is shot regardless of the   
maximum capacity percentatge. Which means that you will need a battery 
replacement. If you contact Apple via phone or go to Apple.com and make an 
appointment you will be displayed with the nearest Apple store or authorized 
dealer. I recommend you go this route before going to a different unauthorized 
Apple location and getting your battery replaced as Apple will do a diagnostic 
on your hardwarewhich is cost-free.

Feliciano

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

Call Apple with your serial number, or call Apple Accessibility and have them 
do a screen share so they can see it.
HTH,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:46 AM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Is there a way to check the warranty status of the phone or do I just need to 
call Apple?
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Assuming there is no warranty you can take it to any place that does smart 
phone batteries.
Check with your carrier.
Or, call some place like Batteries Plus, and if they don't do it, they will 
likely tell you who does in your area.
If it is under warranty, you may need to find an authorized repair place.
Not so easy to do.
Best of luck.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:28 AM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Even worse, there don't seem to be any Apple stores at all in my area. Can 
you get the battery replaced at a carrier store like T-mobile?
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have rebooted the phone and reset network settings to no avail. I am 
wondering if the battery case I tried for a few days damaged something somehow, 
though I can't see how that might have happened. But this level of battery 
drain is just not acceptable for daily use.
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Well, the Apple store in Portland, Oregon, won't replace a battery until it 
drops below 80 percent.
But, that is if they are under warranty.
For about $49 you can have a battery replaced out of warranty.
At least, that is my understanding.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Apple considers 84% battery capacity sufficiently reduced for replacement. The 
battery on my 6S Plus was at 84% last year when I asked at an Apple Store to 
have it replaced when they offered the $29.99 battery replacement and the 
technician said they can certainly do this given it's at 84%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is a

Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Richard Turner]

Call Apple with your serial number, or call Apple Accessibility and have them 
do a screen share so they can see it.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:46 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

 Is there a way to check the warranty status of the phone or do I just need to 
call Apple?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Assuming there is no warranty you can take it to any place that does smart 
phone batteries.
Check with your carrier.
Or, call some place like Batteries Plus, and if they don't do it, they will 
likely tell you who does in your area.
If it is under warranty, you may need to find an authorized repair place.
Not so easy to do.
Best of luck.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:28 AM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 Even worse, there don't seem to be any Apple stores at all in my area. Can 
you get the battery replaced at a carrier store like T-mobile?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have rebooted the phone and reset network settings to no avail. I am 
wondering if the battery case I tried for a few days damaged something somehow, 
though I can't see how that might have happened. But this level of battery 
drain is just not acceptable for daily use.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Well, the Apple store in Portland, Oregon, won't replace a battery until it 
drops below 80 percent.
But, that is if they are under warranty.
For about $49 you can have a battery replaced out of warranty.
At least, that is my understanding.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Apple considers 84% battery capacity sufficiently reduced for replacement. The 
battery on my 6S Plus was at 84% last year when I asked at an Apple Store to 
have it replaced when they offered the $29.99 battery replacement and the 
technician said they can certainly do this given it's at 84%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[kelby carlson]

Is there a way to check the warranty status of the phone or do I just need to 
call Apple?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Assuming there is no warranty you can take it to any place that does smart 
> phone batteries.
> Check with your carrier.
> Or, call some place like Batteries Plus, and if they don't do it, they will 
> likely tell you who does in your area.
> If it is under warranty, you may need to find an authorized repair place.
> Not so easy to do.
> Best of luck.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:28 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>>  Even worse, there don't seem to be any Apple stores at all in my area. Can 
>> you get the battery replaced at a carrier store like T-mobile?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have rebooted the phone and reset network settings to no avail. I am 
>>> wondering if the battery case I tried for a few days damaged something 
>>> somehow, though I can't see how that might have happened. But this level of 
>>> battery drain is just not acceptable for daily use.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Well, the Apple store in Portland, Oregon, won't replace a battery until 
 it drops below 80 percent.
 But, that is if they are under warranty.
 For about $49 you can have a battery replaced out of warranty.
 At least, that is my understanding.
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
 it." 
 -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
 Wagner
 
 
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Apple considers 84% battery capacity sufficiently reduced for 
> replacement. The battery on my 6S Plus was at 84% last year when I asked 
> at an Apple Store to have it replaced when they offered the $29.99 
> battery replacement and the technician said they can certainly do this 
> given it's at 84%.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kelby carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
> 
> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often 
> lose at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it 
> plugged in, it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It 
> is an iPhone 7 that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running 
> iOS 13 yet because of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I 
> don't think it can be a problem with the lightning port, because it does 
> charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. However, if I am doing 
> something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually drain even while 
> plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for 
> a battery replacement?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Richard Turner]

Assuming there is no warranty you can take it to any place that does smart 
phone batteries.
Check with your carrier.
Or, call some place like Batteries Plus, and if they don't do it, they will 
likely tell you who does in your area.
If it is under warranty, you may need to find an authorized repair place.
Not so easy to do.
Best of luck.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:28 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

 Even worse, there don't seem to be any Apple stores at all in my area. Can 
you get the battery replaced at a carrier store like T-mobile?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have rebooted the phone and reset network settings to no avail. I am 
wondering if the battery case I tried for a few days damaged something somehow, 
though I can't see how that might have happened. But this level of battery 
drain is just not acceptable for daily use.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Well, the Apple store in Portland, Oregon, won't replace a battery until it 
drops below 80 percent.
But, that is if they are under warranty.
For about $49 you can have a battery replaced out of warranty.
At least, that is my understanding.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Apple considers 84% battery capacity sufficiently reduced for replacement. The 
battery on my 6S Plus was at 84% last year when I asked at an Apple Store to 
have it replaced when they offered the $29.99 battery replacement and the 
technician said they can certainly do this given it's at 84%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[kelby carlson]

Even worse, there don't seem to be any Apple stores at all in my area. Can you 
get the battery replaced at a carrier store like T-mobile?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:24 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> I have rebooted the phone and reset network settings to no avail. I am 
> wondering if the battery case I tried for a few days damaged something 
> somehow, though I can't see how that might have happened. But this level of 
> battery drain is just not acceptable for daily use.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, the Apple store in Portland, Oregon, won't replace a battery until it 
>> drops below 80 percent.
>> But, that is if they are under warranty.
>> For about $49 you can have a battery replaced out of warranty.
>> At least, that is my understanding.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
>> Wagner
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple considers 84% battery capacity sufficiently reduced for replacement. 
>>> The battery on my 6S Plus was at 84% last year when I asked at an Apple 
>>> Store to have it replaced when they offered the $29.99 battery replacement 
>>> and the technician said they can certainly do this given it's at 84%.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> kelby carlson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>>> 
>>> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
>>> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often 
>>> lose at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged 
>>> in, it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an 
>>> iPhone 7 that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet 
>>> because of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it 
>>> can be a problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when 
>>> plugged in the wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like 
>>> uploading to iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I 
>>> check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery 
>>> replacement?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Carolyn Arnold]

Wayne, what is going on with your messages? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:

Wayne,

Not sure if others are having this issue but your last 4 messages didn't seem 
to have your message except your signature.

Vivian and Sallie


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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I 
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read 
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that 
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I did a 
screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this battery 
for about two years.

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Carolyn Arnold]

Definitely, I was about thinking not to open any more from you, Wayne. 

I did not check to see if they are at the bottom - never do that, just delete. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Wayne,

Not sure if others are having this issue but your last 4 messages didn't seem 
to have your message except your signature.

Vivian and Sallie


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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I 
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read 
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that 
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I did a 
screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this battery 
for about two years.

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Carolyn Arnold]

Mine is in Battery, and was 99 the last time I checked. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Kathy Brandt
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I 
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read 
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that 
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I did a 
screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this battery 
for about two years.

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  
> wrote:
> 
> Kelby,
> 
> How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme 
> of changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from 
> friend or family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are 
> intermittent
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving 
>> extremely oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; 
>> it can often lose at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, 
>> when I have it plugged in, it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every 
>> five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a little more than 2 
>> years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug with ending 
>> calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
>> lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a 
>> computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, 
>> it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery 
>> health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[kelby carlson]

I have rebooted the phone and reset network settings to no avail. I am 
wondering if the battery case I tried for a few days damaged something somehow, 
though I can't see how that might have happened. But this level of battery 
drain is just not acceptable for daily use.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, the Apple store in Portland, Oregon, won't replace a battery until it 
> drops below 80 percent.
> But, that is if they are under warranty.
> For about $49 you can have a battery replaced out of warranty.
> At least, that is my understanding.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple considers 84% battery capacity sufficiently reduced for replacement. 
>> The battery on my 6S Plus was at 84% last year when I asked at an Apple 
>> Store to have it replaced when they offered the $29.99 battery replacement 
>> and the technician said they can certainly do this given it's at 84%.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
>> carlson
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
>> 
>> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
>> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
>> at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, 
>> it charges very slowly, maybe  1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 
>> 7 that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because 
>> of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
>> problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
>> wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
>> iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the 
>> battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Richard Turner]

Well, the Apple store in Portland, Oregon, won't replace a battery until it 
drops below 80 percent.
But, that is if they are under warranty.
For about $49 you can have a battery replaced out of warranty.
At least, that is my understanding.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
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On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Apple considers 84% battery capacity sufficiently reduced for replacement. The 
battery on my 6S Plus was at 84% last year when I asked at an Apple Store to 
have it replaced when they offered the $29.99 battery replacement and the 
technician said they can certainly do this given it's at 84%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Vivian Conger]

Wayne,

Your responses are ending up at the bottom of the thread and not up with your 
signature.

Vivian and Sallie


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:

Wayne,

Not sure if others are having this issue but your last 4 messages didn't seem 
to have your message except your signature.

Vivian and Sallie


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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:03 AM
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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I 
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read 
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that 
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I did a 
screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this battery 
for about two years.

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

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to wayne. nothing in your posts. Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Dave]

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Scott

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:

Wayne,

Not sure if others are having this issue but your last 4 messages didn't 
seem to have your message except your signature.


Vivian and Sallie


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Of Wayne Scott

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:03 AM
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Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that 
I can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can 
read the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure 
that says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I 
did a screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this 
battery for about two years.


On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  
wrote:


Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent


Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, 
it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 
that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because 
of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the 
battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?


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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Kathy Brandt]

Wayne, none of your comments are coming through, just your signature. Please 
make sure when you are writing that your comments are in fact at the beginning 
of your message.

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
> 
> 
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> Not sure if others are having this issue but your last 4 messages didn't seem 
> to have your message except your signature.
> 
> Vivian and Sallie
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Scott
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
> 
> 
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that 
> I can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can 
> read the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure 
> that says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I 
> did a screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this 
> battery for about two years.
> 
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  
> wrote:
> 
> Kelby,
> 
> How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
> changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
> family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
> at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it 
> charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 
> that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of 
> the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
> problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
> wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
> iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery 
> health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Wayne Scott]

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:

Wayne,

Not sure if others are having this issue but your last 4 messages didn't seem 
to have your message except your signature.

Vivian and Sallie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Scott
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I 
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read 
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that 
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I did a 
screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this battery 
for about two years.

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Wayne Scott]

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Have you rebooted the phone and, if that didn't help, tried a Reset Network 
Settings?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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 I sent a message again to the group. I don't know why phone is doing this. I 
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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you rebooted the phone and, if that didn't help, tried a Reset Network 
Settings?

-Original Message-
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carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Apple considers 84% battery capacity sufficiently reduced for replacement. The 
battery on my 6S Plus was at 84% last year when I asked at an Apple Store to 
have it replaced when they offered the $29.99 battery replacement and the 
technician said they can certainly do this given it's at 84%.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
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lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Dave]

that's 3 posts now, without anything in the body.

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Scott

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that 
I can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can 
read the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure 
that says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I 
did a screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this 
battery for about two years.


On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  
wrote:


Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent


Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely
oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose
at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in,
it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7
that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because
of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a
problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the
wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to
iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the
battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Dave]

i can't find any comments, in the body of your last 2 posts.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Scott

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:38 PM
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Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:37 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

As an example of what I'm talking about, I charged my phone to 80% and put 
it in airplane mode for 1 hour. In that time the battery drained 5% which is 
extraordinarily unusual for this phone.


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:35 AM, Wayne Scott  wrote:



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime."


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:


Ron,

I have two different lightning cables; one from Apple that came with my 
original iPhone, so about two years old, and one Anker cable for on-the-go 
charging, about two years old as well. Both evidence this problem.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:19 AM Ron Pelletier  
wrote:

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent


Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely
oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose
at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in,
it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7
that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because
of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a
problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the
wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to
iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the
battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Vivian Conger]

Wayne,

Not sure if others are having this issue but your last 4 messages didn't seem 
to have your message except your signature.

Vivian and Sallie


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Wayne Scott
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:03 AM
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Subject: Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I 
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read 
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that 
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I did a 
screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this battery 
for about two years.

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely oddly. 
When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose at least 
5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, it charges 
very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 that is a 
little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because of the bug 
with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a problem with the 
lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the wall and a computer. 
However, if I am doing something like uploading to iCloud, it can actually 
drain even while plugged in. When I check the battery health, it is at 84%. Is 
it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

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Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I 
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read 
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that 
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I did a 
screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this battery 
for about two years.

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, 
it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 
that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because 
of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the 
battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Kathy Brandt]

How exactly do you check battery health? When I go into battery, I see that I 
can check activity for the past 24 hours or the past 10 days, and I can read 
the percentage of battery used by each app, but not the specific figure that 
says what my battery capacity is. The last time I checked it was when I did a 
screen share with apple, which told me I was at 90% after having this battery 
for about two years.

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Ron Pelletier  
> wrote:
> 
> Kelby,
> 
> How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
> changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
> family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
>> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
>> at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, 
>> it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 
>> that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because 
>> of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
>> problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
>> wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
>> iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the 
>> battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Wayne Scott]

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:37 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

As an example of what I'm talking about, I charged my phone to 80% and put it 
in airplane mode for 1 hour. In that time the battery drained 5% which is 
extraordinarily unusual for this phone.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:35 AM, Wayne Scott  wrote:



Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 


On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:


Ron,

I have two different lightning cables; one from Apple that came with my 
original iPhone, so about two years old, and one Anker cable for on-the-go 
charging, about two years old as well. Both evidence this problem.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:19 AM Ron Pelletier  
wrote:
Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:

In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, 
it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 
that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because 
of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the 
battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[kelby carlson]

As an example of what I'm talking about, I charged my phone to 80% and put it 
in airplane mode for 1 hour. In that time the battery drained 5% which is 
extraordinarily unusual for this phone.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:35 AM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
> 
> 
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ron,
> 
> I have two different lightning cables; one from Apple that came with my 
> original iPhone, so about two years old, and one Anker cable for on-the-go 
> charging, about two years old as well. Both evidence this problem.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:19 AM Ron Pelletier  
> wrote:
> Kelby,
> 
> How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
> changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
> family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
>> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
>> at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, 
>> it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 
>> that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because 
>> of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
>> problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
>> wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
>> iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the 
>> battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Wayne Scott]

Wayne Scott "Everything happens in God's chime." 
 

On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:22 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:


Ron,

I have two different lightning cables; one from Apple that came with my 
original iPhone, so about two years old, and one Anker cable for on-the-go 
charging, about two years old as well. Both evidence this problem.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:19 AM Ron Pelletier  
wrote:
Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
> at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, 
> it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 
> that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because 
> of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
> problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
> wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
> iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the 
> battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
> 
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Kelby Carlson]

Ron,

I have two different lightning cables; one from Apple that came with my
original iPhone, so about two years old, and one Anker cable for on-the-go
charging, about two years old as well. Both evidence this problem.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:19 AM Ron Pelletier 
wrote:

> Kelby,
>
> How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of
> changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend
> or family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> > On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:
> >
> > In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely
> > oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often
> lose
> > at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged
> in,
> > it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an
> iPhone 7
> > that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet
> because
> > of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be
> a
> > problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in
> the
> > wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to
> > iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the
> > battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
> >
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Re: Battery Draining Fast and Charging Slowly

[Ron Pelletier]

Kelby,

How long have you had the lightning cable? Before going to the extreme of 
changing the battery, I would try to borrow a lightning cable from friend or 
family member and try it like that. Sometimes, cables are intermittent

Ron & Danvers

Sent from my iPhone


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:14 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> In the last week or so, my phone's battery has been behaving extremely 
> oddly. When not charging, the battery drains very quickly; it can often lose 
> at least 5% in a couple of minutes. Conversely, when I have it plugged in, 
> it charges very slowly, maybe 1% every five minutes or so. It is an iPhone 7 
> that is a little more than 2 years old. I'm not running iOS 13 yet because 
> of the bug with ending calls and losing speech. I don't think it can be a 
> problem with the lightning port, because it does charge when plugged in the 
> wall and a computer. However, if I am doing something like uploading to 
> iCloud, it can actually drain even while plugged in. When I check the 
> battery health, it is at 84%. Is it time for a battery replacement?
> 
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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Chip Orange]

I would not expect this problem, as not many people (as Sieghard mentioned) are 
reporting this.

I did see this some months back, and it turned out to be an app I newly 
installed (Roger).  Roger has since fixed their problem which caused them to 
drain batteries quickly, but always keep in mind it could be a new app.  I'd 
especially keep looking at the top status line to see if "location services" 
are listed as being on; as everyone knows, they do put a load on batteries, and 
you may find some app which is using location which you didn't know about.

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

  OK and now i wonder, if anyone with iPhone 5S have the 
battery-draining experience? I'm in the process now of updating mine 
through ITunes, so to kind of know if I should expect this problem or not?

El 11/11/2016 05:45 p.m., Todd Patkus escribió:
> Donna,
>
> You should report this to Apple Accessibility.
>
> Todd
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donna
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 4:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>
> My battery draining problem started after I installed IOS 10. IOS 9 my 
> battery was fine.
>
> Donna
>> Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, before 
>> the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, did you 
>> have these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise since the 
>> update to iOS10?
>>
>> El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
>>> For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
>>> recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this 
>>> does not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>>>
>>>
>>>What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
>>> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
>>> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
>>> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
>>> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>>>
>>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>>> ann,
>>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>>>
>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>
>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>>>>
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>>>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
>>>>>> the battery drain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>>>>>>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&done a complete restore 
>>>>>>> with no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>>>>>>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>>>>>>> turned off the phone&left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>>>>>>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>>>>>>> out of ideas!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope you have succe

RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Chip Orange]

Do you know there was an Apple recall on 6S phones for this very battery 
problem?  If you search on the topic of Iphone and battery recall, you'll find 
an Apple site where you can enter your serial number to see if your phone is 
covered.

Chip


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Donna
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! I've 
backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no resolution. My 
phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 40-50% full. I've 
done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the phone & left it off for 
up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location services set to never except 
find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 

Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 

Donna
> 
> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I have 
> made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm now 
> thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is called 
> eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my 
> apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
> 
> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
> 
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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Chip Orange]

Sorry, but I completely disagree with the advice or theory here stated as 
"battery conditioning".  According to many articles from authoritative sources 
(such as Pupular Mechanics), this isn't necessary with today's "smart" lithium 
ion batteries.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

sorry, but i haven't read all of this thread, but how long have you had your 
phone, and could it be a battery issue? Batteries don't last forever, and if 
you don't condition them correctly, meaning, let them run completely flat, 
every month or 2, then doing a full charge, without breaking that charging 
process, it could give you the issues, that you are currently experiencing.

If i were you, i would take it into an apple store, and let them run a full 
diagnostics on your handset.

Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Donna
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

My battery draining problem started after I installed IOS 10. IOS 9 my 
battery was fine.

Donna
>
> Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, 
> before the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, 
> did you have these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise 
> since the update to iOS10?
>
> El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
>> For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
>> recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this 
>> does not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major 
>> problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>>
>>
>>   What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it 
>> came from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about 
>> on this thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys 
>> have seen? Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, 
>> I'll update as soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>>
>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>> ann,
>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>>
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>
>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve 
>>>> my problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>>>
>>>> Donna
>>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>>>
>>>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory 
>>>>> settings followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to 
>>>>> do to stop the battery drain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>>>>>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&   done a complete restore 
>>>>>> with no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when 
>>>>>> the battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. 
>>>>>> I've turned off the phone&   left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>>>>>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. 
>>>>>> I'm out of ideas!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too 
>>>>>>> fast! I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, 
>>>>>>> windows, and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on 
>>>>>>> the phone which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through 
>>>>>>> iTunes? then, can I reinstall all

Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Donna]

Well...I can't say whether the battery draining problem is specific to the 
iPhone 6, a bug for those who have the iPhone 6 & running the latest IOS 10.1.1 
or if after 2 years my iPhone 6 battery just needs to be replaced. Being my 
contract with AT was complete & my phone is no longer under warranty; I 
decided instead of continuing to get frustrated with a rapidly draining battery 
or having to be connected to a wall charger all day, I went & bought myself an 
iPhone 7. The battery in the iPhone 7 is not draining rapidly. I have been 
using my iPhone almost continuously since noon (5 hours) listening to music, 
playing games, texting & searching Bard, my battery is now at 62%. I'm now a 
happy iPhone user once again!

Donna
> 
> hi,
> I may be wrong: but it seems to be the iPhone 6 that is more likely to be 
> affected by this bug. I have an iPhone 6. It is draining more than before, 
> but has improved since I turned off location based services, which I managed 
> to switch on in the setup process. it is now acceptable, but not as good as 
> before…
> 
> thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 23:54, Paul and Paula Jordan <pau...@roadrunner.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm running an IPhone 6 with IOS 10.1.1.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and Boston
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>> 
>> What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
>> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
>> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
>> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
>> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>> 
>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>> ann,
>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
>>>>> the battery drain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>>>>>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with 
>>>>>> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>>>>>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>>>>>> turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>>>>>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>>>>>> out of ideas!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! 
>>>>>>> I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, 
>>>>>>> and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone 
>>>>>>> which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can 
>>>>>>> I reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>> 
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
I may be wrong: but it seems to be the iPhone 6 that is more likely to be 
affected by this bug. I have an iPhone 6. It is draining more than before, but 
has improved since I turned off location based services, which I managed to 
switch on in the setup process. it is now acceptable, but not as good as before…

thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Nov 2016, at 23:54, Paul and Paula Jordan <pau...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm running an IPhone 6 with IOS 10.1.1.
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
> 
>  What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
> 
> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>> ann,
>> Was this using iTunes?
>> Thanks, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
>>>> the battery drain.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>>>>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with 
>>>>> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>>>>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>>>>> turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>>>>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>>>>> out of ideas!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>>>>>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>>>>>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which 
>>>>>> is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I 
>>>>>> reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> list.
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Leo Bado]

hmm, weird,
this is not happennning in my i phone SE.

El 12/11/2016 a las 03:11, Anne Robertson escribió:
> Hello,
>
> This has happpened on my iPhone SE and I know of it happening on an iPhone 5S.
> Mine is now working fine again so there is nothing wrong with the battery.
> I’ve had iPhones for over 7 years now and this is the first time I’ve had 
> this issue with a fairly new phone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 20:48, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>
>> What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
>> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
>> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
>> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
>> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>>
>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>> ann,
>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>>
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>
 On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:

 Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
 problem of the battery draining extremely fast!

 Donna
> Hello Donna,
>
> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
> the battery drain.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
>>
>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with 
>> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>> turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>> out of ideas!
>>
>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>
>> Donna
>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! 
>>> I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, 
>>> and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone 
>>> which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can 
>>> I reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>
>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

This has happpened on my iPhone SE and I know of it happening on an iPhone 5S.
Mine is now working fine again so there is nothing wrong with the battery.
I’ve had iPhones for over 7 years now and this is the first time I’ve had this 
issue with a fairly new phone.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Nov 2016, at 20:48, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
> 
> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>> ann,
>> Was this using iTunes?
>> Thanks, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>> 
>>> Donna
 Hello Donna,
 
 When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
 followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
 the battery drain.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with 
> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
> turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
> out of ideas!
> 
> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
> 
> Donna
>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which 
>> is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I 
>> reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>> 
>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Gerardo,

I wouldn't worry about it until it becomes an issue since if you already 
started the update process and there isn't anything you can do at this point 
except to let it finish. Chances are everything will be fine.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 3:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot


  OK and now i wonder, if anyone with iPhone 5S have the 
battery-draining experience? I'm in the process now of updating mine 
through ITunes, so to kind of know if I should expect this problem or not?

El 11/11/2016 05:45 p.m., Todd Patkus escribió:
> Donna,
>
> You should report this to Apple Accessibility.
>
> Todd
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donna
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 4:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>
> My battery draining problem started after I installed IOS 10. IOS 9 my 
> battery was fine.
>
> Donna
>> Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, before 
>> the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, did you 
>> have these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise since the 
>> update to iOS10?
>>
>> El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
>>> For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
>>> recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this 
>>> does not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>>>
>>>
>>>What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
>>> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
>>> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
>>> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
>>> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>>>
>>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>>> ann,
>>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>>>
>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>
>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>>>>
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>>>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
>>>>>> the battery drain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>>>>>>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&done a complete restore 
>>>>>>> with no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>>>>>>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>>>>>>> turned off the phone&left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>>>>>>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>>>>>>> out of ideas!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! 
>>>>>>>> I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, 
>>>>>>>> and I'm 

RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

I'm running an IPhone 6 with IOS 10.1.1.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

  What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? Will 
Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as soon as 
iOS 10.2 comes out!

El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
> ann,
> Was this using iTunes?
> Thanks, Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>
>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>
>> Donna
>>> Hello Donna,
>>>
>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
>>> battery drain.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
>>>> I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with no 
>>>> resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
>>>> 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
>>>> phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
>>>> services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas!
>>>>
>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Donna
>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>>>>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>>>>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is 
>>>>> called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall 
>>>>> all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>>>
>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Dave]

sorry, but i haven't read all of this thread, but how long have you had your 
phone, and could it be a battery issue? Batteries don't last forever, and if 
you don't condition them correctly, meaning, let them run completely flat, 
every month or 2, then doing a full charge, without breaking that charging 
process, it could give you the issues, that you are currently experiencing.


If i were you, i would take it into an apple store, and let them run a full 
diagnostics on your handset.


Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: Donna

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

My battery draining problem started after I installed IOS 10. IOS 9 my 
battery was fine.


Donna


Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, 
before the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, 
did you have these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise 
since the update to iOS10?


El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this 
does not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major 
problem.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot


  What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it 
came from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about 
on this thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys 
have seen? Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, 
I'll update as soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!


El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:

ann,
Was this using iTunes?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:

Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve 
my problem of the battery draining extremely fast!


Donna

Hello Donna,

When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory 
settings followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to 
do to stop the battery drain.


Cheers,

Anne




On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:

Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&   done a complete restore 
with no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when 
the battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. 
I've turned off the phone&   left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. 
I'm out of ideas!


Hope you have success in resolving this problem.

Donna
hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too 
fast! I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, 
windows, and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on 
the phone which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through 
iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt 
it back up?


thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy

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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Just FYI, I did go to the Apple store.  They set up my phone as a new phone.  I 
downloaded all my apps that night so no weird bug would rear it's ugly head.  
It still has the problem.  It seems to drain faster when I put it in my purse.  
Interestingly, I've kept it in the same pocket of the same purse for the last 
almost two years with no problem.  I am eligible for an upgrade next week and 
plan to get an IPhone 7.  Hopefully, I won't still have the same problem.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: battery draining need to reboot

For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this does 
not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem. 

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot


  What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? Will 
Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as soon as 
iOS 10.2 comes out!

El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
> ann,
> Was this using iTunes?
> Thanks, Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>
>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>
>> Donna
>>> Hello Donna,
>>>
>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
>>> battery drain.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
>>>> I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with no 
>>>> resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
>>>> 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
>>>> phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
>>>> services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas!
>>>>
>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Donna
>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>>>>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>>>>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is 
>>>>> called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall 
>>>>> all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>>>
>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>>
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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Actually, I think mine started with IOS 10.1.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

  Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, before 
the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, did you have 
these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise since the update to 
iOS10?

El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
> For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
> recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this does 
> not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>
>
>What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>
> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>> ann,
>> Was this using iTunes?
>> Thanks, Sandy
>>
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>
>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>>
>>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
>>>> the battery drain.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Anne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>>>>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&   done a complete restore with 
>>>>> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>>>>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>>>>> turned off the phone&   left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>>>>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>>>>> out of ideas!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>>>>>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>>>>>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which 
>>>>>> is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I 
>>>>>> reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>>>
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Gerardo Corripio]

 OK and now i wonder, if anyone with iPhone 5S have the 
battery-draining experience? I'm in the process now of updating mine 
through ITunes, so to kind of know if I should expect this problem or not?


El 11/11/2016 05:45 p.m., Todd Patkus escribió:

Donna,

You should report this to Apple Accessibility.

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

My battery draining problem started after I installed IOS 10. IOS 9 my battery 
was fine.

Donna

Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, before 
the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, did you have 
these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise since the update to 
iOS10?

El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:

For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this does 
not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot


   What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? Will 
Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as soon as 
iOS 10.2 comes out!

El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:

ann,
Was this using iTunes?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>wrote:

Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
problem of the battery draining extremely fast!

Donna

Hello Donna,

When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
battery drain.

Cheers,

Anne




On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>wrote:

Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! I've backed 
up my iPhone 6 twice&done a complete restore with no resolution. My phone will 
appear to be completely dead when the battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset 
many many times. I've turned off the phone&left it off for up to 15 minutes. I 
have everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of 
ideas!

Hope you have success in resolving this problem.

Donna

hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I have 
made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm now 
thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is called eraise 
iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my apps and 
data via that encrypt it back up?

thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy

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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Todd Patkus]

Donna,

You should report this to Apple Accessibility.

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

My battery draining problem started after I installed IOS 10. IOS 9 my battery 
was fine. 

Donna
> 
> Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, before 
> the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, did you 
> have these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise since the 
> update to iOS10?
> 
> El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
>> For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
>> recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this does 
>> not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>> 
>> 
>>   What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
>> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
>> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
>> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
>> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>> 
>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>> ann,
>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
>>>>> the battery drain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>>>>>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&   done a complete restore 
>>>>>> with no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>>>>>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>>>>>> turned off the phone&   left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>>>>>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>>>>>> out of ideas!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! 
>>>>>>> I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, 
>>>>>>> and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone 
>>>>>>> which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can 
>>>>>>> I reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> Yo

Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Donna]

My battery draining problem started after I installed IOS 10. IOS 9 my battery 
was fine. 

Donna
> 
> Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, before 
> the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was around, did you 
> have these same same battery-draining issues, or did they arise since the 
> update to iOS10?
> 
> El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:
>> For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
>> recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this does 
>> not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot
>> 
>> 
>>   What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
>> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
>> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
>> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
>> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
>> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
>> 
>> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>>> ann,
>>> Was this using iTunes?
>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
>>>>> the battery drain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
>>>>>> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&   done a complete restore 
>>>>>> with no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
>>>>>> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
>>>>>> turned off the phone&   left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
>>>>>> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
>>>>>> out of ideas!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! 
>>>>>>> I have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, 
>>>>>>> and I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone 
>>>>>>> which is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can 
>>>>>>> I reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>>>>> 
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Also I wonder for those who are having these battery-draining issues, 
before the iOS10, for those who've had your phones while iOS9 was 
around, did you have these same same battery-draining issues, or did 
they arise since the update to iOS10?


El 11/11/2016 02:22 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel escribió:

For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this does 
not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot


   What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? Will 
Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as soon as 
iOS 10.2 comes out!

El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:

ann,
Was this using iTunes?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:

Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
problem of the battery draining extremely fast!

Donna

Hello Donna,

When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
battery drain.

Cheers,

Anne




On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>   wrote:

Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! I've backed 
up my iPhone 6 twice&   done a complete restore with no resolution. My phone will 
appear to be completely dead when the battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset 
many many times. I've turned off the phone&   left it off for up to 15 minutes. I 
have everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of 
ideas!

Hope you have success in resolving this problem.

Donna

hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I have 
made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm now 
thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is called eraise 
iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my apps and 
data via that encrypt it back up?

thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy

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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Sieghard Weitzel]

For those couple of people who have these battery issues I would highly 
recommend to go to an Apple Store and get them to check the phone, this does 
not sound right and there are no reports of this being a major problem. 

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot


  What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? Will 
Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as soon as 
iOS 10.2 comes out!

El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
> ann,
> Was this using iTunes?
> Thanks, Sandy
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>
>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>
>> Donna
>>> Hello Donna,
>>>
>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
>>> battery drain.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna<merma...@bellsouth.net>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
>>>> I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with no 
>>>> resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
>>>> 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
>>>> phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
>>>> services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas!
>>>>
>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Donna
>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>>>>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>>>>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is 
>>>>> called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall 
>>>>> all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>>>
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Gerardo Corripio]

 What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it 
came from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about 
on this thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys 
have seen? Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, 
I'll update as soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!


El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:

ann,
Was this using iTunes?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon


On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:

Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
problem of the battery draining extremely fast!

Donna

Hello Donna,

When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
battery drain.

Cheers,

Anne




On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:

Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! I've backed 
up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with no resolution. My phone will 
appear to be completely dead when the battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset 
many many times. I've turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I 
have everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of 
ideas!

Hope you have success in resolving this problem.

Donna

hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I have 
made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm now 
thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is called eraise 
iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my apps and 
data via that encrypt it back up?

thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy

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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

I, too, am still having a really fast battery drain problem.  I've set up my 
phone as a new phone, and when it happened again I did a home and lock button 
re-boot.  Still having somewhat of a problem.  My phone gets slightly warm and 
then I know the battery is draining too quickly.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

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Donna
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 1:07 PM
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Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

Yes restored backup from iTunes on a computer

Donna
> 
> ann,
> Was this using iTunes?
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>> 
>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
>>> battery drain.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
>>>> I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no 
>>>> resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
>>>> 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
>>>> phone & left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
>>>> services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>>>>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>>>>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is 
>>>>> called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall 
>>>>> all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>>>> 
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Donna]

Yes restored backup from iTunes on a computer

Donna
> 
> ann,
> Was this using iTunes?
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>> 
>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
>>> battery drain.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
 
 Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
 I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no 
 resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
 phone & left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
 services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 
 
 Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 
 
 Donna
> 
> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is 
> called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall 
> all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
> 
> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
> 
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sandy,

Yes, I used iTunes on my Mac. I do all the app updates on my Mac and keep the 
iPhone backups there, too.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Nov 2016, at 16:25, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> ann,
> Was this using iTunes?
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>> 
>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
>>> battery drain.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
 
 Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
 I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no 
 resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
 phone & left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
 services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 
 
 Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 
 
 Donna
> 
> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is 
> called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall 
> all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
> 
> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
> 
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

ann,
Was this using iTunes?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
> 
> Donna
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
>> battery drain.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
>>> I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no 
>>> resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
>>> 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
>>> phone & left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
>>> services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 
>>> 
>>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
 
 hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
 have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm 
 now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is 
 called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall 
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 thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
 
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Donna]

Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
problem of the battery draining extremely fast!

Donna
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
> battery drain.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
>> I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no 
>> resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
>> 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
>> phone & left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
>> services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 
>> 
>> Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 
>> 
>> Donna
>>> 
>>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm 
>>> now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is 
>>> called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall 
>>> all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>>> 
>>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>>> 
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Donna,

When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
battery drain.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
> I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no 
> resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
> 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
> phone & left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
> services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 
> 
> Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 
> 
> Donna
>> 
>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm 
>> now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is called 
>> eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my 
>> apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>> 
>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Donna]

Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! I've 
backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no resolution. My 
phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 40-50% full. I've 
done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the phone & left it off for 
up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location services set to never except 
find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 

Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 

Donna
> 
> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I have 
> made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm now 
> thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is called 
> eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my 
> apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
> 
> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
> 
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Re: battery draining very quickly

[Terje Strømberg]

Is brightness the same as light? Turn down the brighttness/light and check if 
any GPS app is running in the backround. This is the two most battery demanding 
resource. If normal use i.e. not running a hd movie et cetera.

Take care

22. jan. 2016 kl. 20:33 skrev Monica Jones :

No, I can’t say mine is draining faster, but I’m using a 5S.
 
 
From: Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: battery draining very quickly
 
Hi, all.  Has anyone else noticed a significantly greater battery drain since 
updating to IOS 9.2?  It seems to me that my battery goes down faster since the 
update.  I’m using an IPhone 6 running 9.2.  Any thoughts?  Thanks.
God bless!
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RE: battery draining very quickly

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi, all.  Thanks for your suggestions.  I updated to 9.2.1, ran my battery 
completely down, re-charged to phone completely and did a hard re-set holding 
the home and screen lock buttons for ten seconds.  My battery is now performing 
as I would have hoped.  Instead of dropping to below 50 per cent with light 
use, it's gone to80 percent.  Much better.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

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Subject: Re: battery draining very quickly

Is brightness the same as light? Turn down the brighttness/light and check if 
any GPS app is running in the backround. This is the two most battery demanding 
resource. If normal use i.e. not running a hd movie et cetera.

Take care

22. jan. 2016 kl. 20:33 skrev Monica Jones <coffeega...@att.net>:

No, I can’t say mine is draining faster, but I’m using a 5S.
 
 
From: Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: battery draining very quickly
 
Hi, all.  Has anyone else noticed a significantly greater battery drain since 
updating to IOS 9.2?  It seems to me that my battery goes down faster since the 
update.  I’m using an IPhone 6 running 9.2.  Any thoughts?  Thanks.
God bless!
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Re: battery draining very quickly

[Monica Jones]

No, I can’t say mine is draining faster, but I’m using a 5S.


From: Paul and Paula Jordan 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: battery draining very quickly

Hi, all.  Has anyone else noticed a significantly greater battery drain since 
updating to IOS 9.2?  It seems to me that my battery goes down faster since the 
update.  I’m using an IPhone 6 running 9.2.  Any thoughts?  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Boston

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Re: battery draining very quickly

[Christopher Chaltain]

Also, check your normal battery saving settings, such as display 
brightness, bluetooth on/off and so on. I haven't noticed any increase 
in battery drain, and I didn't notice that any of these settings have 
been changed, but I've seen bluetooth come on and the screen brightness 
get changed to auto after earlier updates.


On 21/01/16 21:21, Scott Berry wrote:

There is a couple of things to check.

1.  Do you have any apps open other than what you are using?

2.  In Settings under Battery I believe you can choose what programs
fetch data if you don’t want them all to.


3.  Also I found out that if you run your battery all the way down and
charge it back up to 100 percent and then do a reset with the home
button and the sleep button pressed together.  I have found that each
phone may be a little different.   Supposedly you should be able to
press these buttons for 10 seconds and then the Apple logo comes up.  I
normally use a 20 second count that way it is sure to reset the whole phone.



On Jan 21, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Stacy Fuehrer > wrote:

Mine is definitely draining faster, I am running iOS 9.2 on an iPhone 5.
Stacy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 21, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan
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Hi, all.  Has anyone else noticed a significantly greater battery
drain since updating to IOS 9.2?  It seems to me that my battery goes
down faster since the update.  I’m using an IPhone 6 running 9.2.
Any thoughts?  Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

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I haven't seen any extreme battery drainage either.

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Also, check your normal battery saving settings, such as display brightness, 
bluetooth on/off and so on. I haven't noticed any increase in battery drain, 
and I didn't notice that any of these settings have been changed, but I've seen 
bluetooth come on and the screen brightness get changed to auto after earlier 
updates.

On 21/01/16 21:21, Scott Berry wrote:
> There is a couple of things to check.
>
> 1.  Do you have any apps open other than what you are using?
>
> 2.  In Settings under Battery I believe you can choose what programs 
> fetch data if you don’t want them all to.
>
>
> 3.  Also I found out that if you run your battery all the way down and 
> charge it back up to 100 percent and then do a reset with the home 
> button and the sleep button pressed together.  I have found that each
> phone may be a little different.   Supposedly you should be able to
> press these buttons for 10 seconds and then the Apple logo comes up.  
> I normally use a 20 second count that way it is sure to reset the whole phone.
>
>
>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Stacy Fuehrer <precious0...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:precious0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Mine is definitely draining faster, I am running iOS 9.2 on an iPhone 5.
>> Stacy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Hi, all.  Has anyone else noticed a significantly greater battery 
>>> drain since updating to IOS 9.2?  It seems to me that my battery 
>>> goes down faster since the update.  I’m using an IPhone 6 running 9.2.
>>> Any thoughts?  Thanks.
>>> God bless!
>>> Paula and Boston
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There is a couple of things to check.

1.  Do you have any apps open other than what you are using?

2.  In Settings under Battery I believe you can choose what programs fetch data 
if you don’t want them all to.


3.  Also I found out that if you run your battery all the way down and charge 
it back up to 100 percent and then do a reset with the home button and the 
sleep button pressed together.  I have found that each phone may be a little 
different.   Supposedly you should be able to press these buttons for 10 
seconds and then the Apple logo comes up.  I normally use a 20 second count 
that way it is sure to reset the whole phone.

 
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Stacy Fuehrer  wrote:
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> Mine is definitely draining faster, I am running iOS 9.2 on an iPhone 5. 
> Stacy 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 21, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan  > wrote:
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>> Hi, all.  Has anyone else noticed a significantly greater battery drain 
>> since updating to IOS 9.2?  It seems to me that my battery goes down faster 
>> since the update.  I’m using an IPhone 6 running 9.2.  Any thoughts?  Thanks.
>> God bless!
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Mine is definitely draining faster, I am running iOS 9.2 on an iPhone 5. 
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Re: battery draining very quickly

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I agree!

Andy

From: Paul and Paula Jordan 
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Hi, all.  Has anyone else noticed a significantly greater battery drain since 
updating to IOS 9.2?  It seems to me that my battery goes down faster since the 
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Re: Battery draining

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What's the email for the accessibility team?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna 
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None of 
 my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from the 
 app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon test 
 this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an 
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a 
 few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and streaming 
 radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight they have me 
 doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per hour. I am 
 curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. Apple is 
 suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do this. 
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Re: Battery draining

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Dropbox has a feature where it uploads pictures or something similar 
based on your location. This is why.


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On 3/16/2014 4:05 PM, Chris Apple boy wrote:

Sorry but why would Dropbox want your location anyway!

Regards Chris

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On 16/03/2014 20:54, David Chittenden wrote:

After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background
with fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine
which ones will keep in location services on. The surprising one for
me is dropbox. When I turned Dropbox off, location services
disappeared from my status bar.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:



Good Afternoon All,

I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of
staying on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In
fact, It hadn't affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance
who's not a VO user.

I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this
BTW)

I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was
currently using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in
his app switcher.  So I turned off the phone and back on and location
services was still in the status line.

I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no
avail.

So I googled location services constantly running and found the
following forum

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935

There it told me to go to the following:

You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn
off the individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps,
Foursquare, or Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you
open them, but will not keep the GPS running in the background when
the app is closed.
For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had
all the apps updating in the background even when they were closed.

Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I
open the associated app.

This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and
suddenly the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is
launched as it does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app
switcher the location Services goes off in the status line.

Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.

I hope this helps someone out there.

Katey

Sent from my iPad


On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden
dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location
services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from
monitoring when they are not open in the foreground.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location
services, such as a GPS app useless?

Andy


-Original Message- From: David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from
the status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I
attempted it again last night with the same result after a reboot
and a warm reset.

Go to settings, general, background app refresh.

Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take
more time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for
critical situations that affect significant numbers of users, and
VO users are less than 1% of the user base. Every email to
accessibil...@apple.com
helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more
people have the problem, so they will increase the resources
directed toward fixing the problem.

As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please
remember back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive
specialised note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between
six months and a year between updates, and we always had to live
with the problem until then, if the problem was even fixed. Oh, and
let's not forget, some devices could not be upgraded without
sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade
fee was usually rather significant.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi David,

The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday
evening before going out I charged the phone as much as I could
and timed the drainage. It dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of
time. Hence, I will place my complaint to Apple accessibility. The
phone was completely

Re: Battery draining

[chris]

accessibil...@apple.com
Regards Chris
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16 Mar 2014, at 11:51, simon wong simonwo...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 What's the email for the accessibility team?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna 
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None 
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from 
 the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon 
 test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an 
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a 
 few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and 
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Re: Battery draining

[David Chittenden]

I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna is 
the only thing that is this power demanding.

Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None of 
my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.

So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from the 
app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon test 
this and find the problem.

One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an 
update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a 
few months before the problem is resolved. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and streaming 
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 doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per hour. I am 
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Re: Battery draining

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi David, 

The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It 
dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint to 
Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a doorknob 
when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn that off? I 
didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in apps that I 
didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on battery? 
Thanks. 

Best, 
Eileen 
On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna 
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None of 
 my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from the 
 app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon test 
 this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an 
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a 
 few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and streaming 
 radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight they have me 
 doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per hour. I am 
 curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. Apple is 
 suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do this. 
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Re: Battery draining

[Les Kriegler]

If you don't need to look at the screen, I would recommend turning down screen 
brightness. You can find that setting in the general option under settings.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 16, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi David, 
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
 going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It 
 dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint 
 to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a 
 doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn 
 that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in 
 apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on 
 battery? Thanks. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna 
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None 
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from 
 the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon 
 test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an 
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a 
 few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and 
 streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight 
 they have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per 
 hour. I am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. 
 Apple is suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do 
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RE: Battery draining

[Pablo Morales]

It is what I did Eileen
I  deleted from my iPhone the apps that I  don't want to update, for example
skype.
Later I did a restore as new device.
After this, I downloaded the restore from iCloud to my device.
Later I stored a backup of my iPhone in my computer, replacing the old
backup.
Now, I start to use my phone fine, and no more battery problems.
I hope that it helps you.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eileen Misrahi
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

Hi David, 

The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before
going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It
dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint
to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a
doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn
that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in
apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on
battery? Thanks. 

Best, 
Eileen 
On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets
switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna
is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None
of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from
the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon
test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they
figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an
update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a
few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and
streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight they
have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per hour. I
am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. Apple is
suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do this.
Suggestions are appreciated.
 
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Re: Battery draining

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Pablo,

Thanks for your directions on what has helped with the battery issue. I was 
hoping that I didn't have to go to that exreme. Between the iPhone 4, the Dell 
freezing, and the Win 8 not installing in Bootcamp properly, I am tech dumb for 
now. I have fully charged the phone this morning, lowered brightness to 10'%, 
turned off stuff in location services that I don't need, looked at all the 
different options under privacy that could be turned off, and I will see if any 
of this will make a difference. I am running iOS 7.0.6 and I didn't have 
problems at first with the battery, but I have been slowly going through all of 
the numerous app updates and may be there was one that triggered the battery 
hog. 

Thanks again for your suggestion and I may need to resort to it.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 16, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is what I did Eileen
 I  deleted from my iPhone the apps that I  don't want to update, for example
 skype.
 Later I did a restore as new device.
 After this, I downloaded the restore from iCloud to my device.
 Later I stored a backup of my iPhone in my computer, replacing the old
 backup.
 Now, I start to use my phone fine, and no more battery problems.
 I hope that it helps you.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Eileen Misrahi
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 Hi David, 
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before
 going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It
 dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint
 to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a
 doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn
 that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in
 apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on
 battery? Thanks. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from
 the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon
 test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a
 few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and
 streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight they
 have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per hour. I
 am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. Apple is
 suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do this.
 Suggestions are appreciated.
 
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Re: Battery draining

[chris]

It's also in the Control Centre.
Regards Chris
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16 Mar 2014, at 13:46, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you don't need to look at the screen, I would recommend turning down 
 screen brightness. You can find that setting in the general option under 
 settings.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Hi David, 
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
 going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It 
 dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint 
 to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a 
 doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn 
 that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in 
 apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on 
 battery? Thanks. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna 
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None 
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from 
 the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon 
 test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an 
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting 
 a few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and 
 streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight 
 they have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per 
 hour. I am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. 
 Apple is suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do 
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Re: Battery draining

[David Chittenden]

The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the status 
bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it again last 
night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.

Go to settings, general, background app refresh.

Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time 
before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical situations 
that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less than 1% of the 
user base. Every email to
accessibil...@apple.com
helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people have 
the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward fixing the 
problem.

As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember back to 
the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised note-taker. It 
usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year between updates, 
and we always had to live with the problem until then, if the problem was even 
fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not be upgraded without 
sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade fee was 
usually rather significant.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi David, 
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
 going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It 
 dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint 
 to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a 
 doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn 
 that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in 
 apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on 
 battery? Thanks. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna 
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None 
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from 
 the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon 
 test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an 
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a 
 few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and 
 streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight 
 they have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per 
 hour. I am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. 
 Apple is suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do 
 this. Suggestions are appreciated.
 
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Re: Battery draining

[David Chittenden]

Thank you pablo, I will follow your steps later this morning. I was already 
planning on doing so, and your message confirms that it may correct the 
problem. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 4:21, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is what I did Eileen
 I  deleted from my iPhone the apps that I  don't want to update, for example
 skype.
 Later I did a restore as new device.
 After this, I downloaded the restore from iCloud to my device.
 Later I stored a backup of my iPhone in my computer, replacing the old
 backup.
 Now, I start to use my phone fine, and no more battery problems.
 I hope that it helps you.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Eileen Misrahi
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 Hi David, 
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before
 going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It
 dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint
 to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a
 doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn
 that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in
 apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on
 battery? Thanks. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from
 the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon
 test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a
 few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and
 streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight they
 have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per hour. I
 am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. Apple is
 suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do this.
 Suggestions are appreciated.
 
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Re: Battery draining

[David Chittenden]

The battery drain problem with location services being switched on permanently 
did not start until iOS 7.1 for me. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 4:36, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Pablo,
 
 Thanks for your directions on what has helped with the battery issue. I was 
 hoping that I didn't have to go to that exreme. Between the iPhone 4, the 
 Dell freezing, and the Win 8 not installing in Bootcamp properly, I am tech 
 dumb for now. I have fully charged the phone this morning, lowered brightness 
 to 10'%, turned off stuff in location services that I don't need, looked at 
 all the different options under privacy that could be turned off, and I will 
 see if any of this will make a difference. I am running iOS 7.0.6 and I 
 didn't have problems at first with the battery, but I have been slowly going 
 through all of the numerous app updates and may be there was one that 
 triggered the battery hog. 
 
 Thanks again for your suggestion and I may need to resort to it.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 It is what I did Eileen
 I  deleted from my iPhone the apps that I  don't want to update, for example
 skype.
 Later I did a restore as new device.
 After this, I downloaded the restore from iCloud to my device.
 Later I stored a backup of my iPhone in my computer, replacing the old
 backup.
 Now, I start to use my phone fine, and no more battery problems.
 I hope that it helps you.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Eileen Misrahi
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 Hi David, 
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before
 going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It
 dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint
 to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a
 doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn
 that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in
 apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on
 battery? Thanks. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from
 the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon
 test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a
 few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and
 streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight they
 have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per hour. I
 am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. Apple is
 suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do this.
 Suggestions are appreciated.
 
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RE: Battery draining

[Richard Turner]

David,
Good points as always.
For those who are wanting to use any GPS while the phone is locked, however,
they will need to turn on background app refresh for those apps while
traveling.
It isn't that difficult, just a step to remember before going out.

Also, someone had the flashlight in the app switcher.  The flashlight, if it
is on, will eat a good 10% per hour or more.  I accidently left it on once
and was wondering what the heck was causing my battery to drain so fast.
I have no light perception, and had turned it on to help a coworker and then
left for the day forgetting about it.

I have not personally had significant battery drain issues with my 5S, but I
only have things on when I am using them, otherwise, I disable just about
everything that isn't necessary.

For those who are not changing time zones on a regular basis, there is an
auto time zone setting feature in the Settings, General, Date and time that
I would turn off.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the status
bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it again
last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.

Go to settings, general, background app refresh.

Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time
before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical
situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less
than 1% of the user base. Every email to
accessibil...@apple.com
helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people
have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward fixing
the problem.

As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember back
to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised note-taker. It
usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year between updates,
and we always had to live with the problem until then, if the problem was
even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not be upgraded
without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade
fee was usually rather significant.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi David, 
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before
going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It
dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint
to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a
doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn
that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in
apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on
battery? Thanks. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets
switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna
is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO.
None of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from
the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon
test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they
figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an
update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting a
few months before the problem is resolved. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and
streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight they
have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per hour. I
am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. Apple is
suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do this.
Suggestions are appreciated.
 
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Re: Battery draining

[Andy Baracco]

But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location services, 
such as a GPS app useless?


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: David Chittenden

Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the status 
bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it again 
last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.


Go to settings, general, background app refresh.

Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time 
before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical 
situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less 
than 1% of the user base. Every email to

accessibil...@apple.com
helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people 
have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward fixing 
the problem.


As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember back 
to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised note-taker. It 
usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year between updates, 
and we always had to live with the problem until then, if the problem was 
even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not be upgraded 
without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade 
fee was usually rather significant.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi David,

The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. 
It dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my 
complaint to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and 
dead as a doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background 
refresh to turn that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but 
turned it off in apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I 
need to do to save on battery? Thanks.


Best,
Eileen
On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS 
antenna is the only thing that is this power demanding.


Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. 
None of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.


So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from 
the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully 
soon test this and find the problem.


One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out 
an update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be 
waiting a few months before the problem is resolved.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:



Sent from my iPhone
I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and 
streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight 
they have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% 
per hour. I am curious what other folks are finding in a similar 
situation. Apple is suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not 
want to do this. Suggestions are appreciated.


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Re: Battery draining

[David Chittenden]

No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location services, 
automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring when they are 
not open in the foreground.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location services, 
 such as a GPS app useless?
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the status 
 bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it again 
 last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
 
 Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
 
 Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time 
 before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical situations 
 that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less than 1% of 
 the user base. Every email to
 accessibil...@apple.com
 helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people 
 have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward fixing 
 the problem.
 
 As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember back 
 to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised note-taker. It 
 usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year between updates, 
 and we always had to live with the problem until then, if the problem was 
 even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not be upgraded 
 without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade 
 fee was usually rather significant.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
 going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It 
 dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint 
 to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a 
 doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn 
 that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in 
 apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do to save on 
 battery? Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS antenna 
 is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None 
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from 
 the app switcher. Finally, email accessibility so they will hopefully soon 
 test this and find the problem.
 
 One thing we do know, Apple does repair these sorts of problems when they 
 figure out what is going on. Unfortunately, they usually don't role out an 
 update when the problem is only with VO, so we will most likely be waiting 
 a few months before the problem is resolved.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:10, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I am using an iPhone for S. I wrote previously while I'm Wi-Fi and 
 streaming radio I am using 16% battery per hour. I called Apple tonight 
 they have me doing iCloud restore. It made it worse I'm now using 20% per 
 hour. I am curious what other folks are finding in a similar situation. 
 Apple is suggesting a new restore from the computer. I do not want to do 
 this. Suggestions are appreciated.
 
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Re: Battery draining

[Katey Glass]

Good Afternoon All,

I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of staying on 
constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It hadn't affected 
me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.  

I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW)

I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently using 
his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.  So I 
turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the status 
line.  

I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no avail.  

So I googled location services constantly running and found the following forum

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935

There it told me to go to the following:

You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off the 
individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, or 
Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will not 
keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the 
apps updating in the background even when they were closed.
 
Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the 
associated app.

This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and suddenly 
the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is launched as it does 
on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app switcher the location Services 
goes off in the status line.  

Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.  

I hope this helps someone out there.  

Katey

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location services, 
 automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring when they 
 are not open in the foreground.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location services, 
 such as a GPS app useless?
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the status 
 bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it again 
 last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
 
 Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
 
 Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time 
 before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical 
 situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less 
 than 1% of the user base. Every email to
 accessibil...@apple.com
 helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people 
 have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward fixing 
 the problem.
 
 As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember back 
 to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised note-taker. It 
 usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year between updates, 
 and we always had to live with the problem until then, if the problem was 
 even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not be upgraded 
 without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade 
 fee was usually rather significant.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
 going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It 
 dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my 
 complaint to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead 
 as a doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh 
 to turn that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned 
 it off in apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do 
 to save on battery? Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS 
 antenna is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None 
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 
 So, turn off background app refresh. Also, very regularly close apps from 
 the app switcher

Re: Battery draining

[David Chittenden]

After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with 
fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones 
will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox. When I 
turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Good Afternoon All,
 
 I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of staying on 
 constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It hadn't 
 affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.  
 
 I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW)
 
 I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently using 
 his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.  So I 
 turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the 
 status line.  
 
 I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no avail.  
 
 So I googled location services constantly running and found the following 
 forum
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935
 
 There it told me to go to the following:
 
 You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off the 
 individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, or 
 Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will not 
 keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
 For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the 
 apps updating in the background even when they were closed.
 
 Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the 
 associated app.
 
 This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and suddenly 
 the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is launched as it 
 does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app switcher the location 
 Services goes off in the status line.  
 
 Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.  
 
 I hope this helps someone out there.  
 
 Katey
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location services, 
 automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring when they 
 are not open in the foreground.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location services, 
 such as a GPS app useless?
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the 
 status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it 
 again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
 
 Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
 
 Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time 
 before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical 
 situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less 
 than 1% of the user base. Every email to
 accessibil...@apple.com
 helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people 
 have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward 
 fixing the problem.
 
 As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember 
 back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised 
 note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year 
 between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until then, if 
 the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could 
 not be upgraded without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the 
 annual upgrade fee was usually rather significant.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
 going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. 
 It dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my 
 complaint to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and 
 dead as a doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background 
 refresh to turn that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but 
 turned it off in apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I 
 need to do to save on battery? Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen

Re: Battery draining

[Katey Glass]

Glad to hear it helped!  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:54 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with 
 fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones 
 will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox. When 
 I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Good Afternoon All,
 
 I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of staying 
 on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It hadn't 
 affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.  
 
 I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW)
 
 I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently 
 using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.  
 So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the 
 status line.  
 
 I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no avail.  
 
 So I googled location services constantly running and found the following 
 forum
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935
 
 There it told me to go to the following:
 
 You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off the 
 individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, or 
 Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will 
 not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
 For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the 
 apps updating in the background even when they were closed.
 
 Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the 
 associated app.
 
 This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and suddenly 
 the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is launched as it 
 does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app switcher the location 
 Services goes off in the status line.  
 
 Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.  
 
 I hope this helps someone out there.  
 
 Katey
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location 
 services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring 
 when they are not open in the foreground.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location 
 services, such as a GPS app useless?
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the 
 status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it 
 again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
 
 Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
 
 Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more 
 time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical 
 situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less 
 than 1% of the user base. Every email to
 accessibil...@apple.com
 helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people 
 have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward 
 fixing the problem.
 
 As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember 
 back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised 
 note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year 
 between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until then, if 
 the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could 
 not be upgraded without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, 
 the annual upgrade fee was usually rather significant.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening 
 before going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the 
 drainage. It dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will 
 place my complaint to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely 
 drained and dead as a doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the 
 background refresh to turn that off? I didn't totally turn off location

RE: Battery draining

[Corey Michael Cook]

This is very interesting.
I don't have the location services issue but ever since the 7.1 update I
have noticed my battery is draining much faster than before.


Corey Cook
Facebook:
corey.coo...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with
fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones
will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox.
When I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Good Afternoon All,
 
 I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of staying
on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It hadn't
affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.  
 
 I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW)
 
 I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently
using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.
So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the
status line.  
 
 I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no avail.

 
 So I googled location services constantly running and found the following
forum
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935
 
 There it told me to go to the following:
 
 You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off
the individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare,
or Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will
not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
 For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all
the apps updating in the background even when they were closed.
 
 Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open
the associated app.
 
 This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and
suddenly the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is
launched as it does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app
switcher the location Services goes off in the status line.  
 
 Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.  
 
 I hope this helps someone out there.  
 
 Katey
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location
services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring
when they are not open in the foreground.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location
services, such as a GPS app useless?
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the
status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it
again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
 
 Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
 
 Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more
time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical
situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less
than 1% of the user base. Every email to
 accessibil...@apple.com
 helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more
people have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward
fixing the problem.
 
 As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember
back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised
note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year
between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until then, if
the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not
be upgraded without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the
annual upgrade fee was usually rather significant.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening
before going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the
drainage. It dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place

Re: Battery draining

[Chris Apple boy]

Sorry but why would Dropbox want your location anyway!

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 20:54, David Chittenden wrote:

After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with 
fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones 
will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox. When I 
turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:



Good Afternoon All,

I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of staying on 
constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It hadn't affected me (a VO 
user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.

I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW)

I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently using 
his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.  So I 
turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the status 
line.

I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no avail.

So I googled location services constantly running and found the following forum

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935

There it told me to go to the following:

You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off the 
individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, or 
Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will not 
keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the 
apps updating in the background even when they were closed.

Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the 
associated app.

This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and suddenly 
the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is launched as it does 
on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app switcher the location Services 
goes off in the status line.

Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.

I hope this helps someone out there.

Katey

Sent from my iPad


On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location services, 
automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring when they are 
not open in the foreground.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location services, 
such as a GPS app useless?

Andy


-Original Message- From: David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the status 
bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it again last 
night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.

Go to settings, general, background app refresh.

Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time 
before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical situations 
that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less than 1% of the 
user base. Every email to
accessibil...@apple.com
helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people have 
the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward fixing the 
problem.

As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember back to 
the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised note-taker. It 
usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year between updates, 
and we always had to live with the problem until then, if the problem was even 
fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not be upgraded without 
sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade fee was 
usually rather significant.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi David,

The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It 
dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my complaint to 
Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead as a doorknob 
when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh to turn that off? I 
didn't totally turn off location services, but turned it off in apps that I 
didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do

RE: Battery draining

[Corey Michael Cook]

Many apps want your location that you would assume don't need your location.


Corey Cook
Facebook:
corey.coo...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Apple boy
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

Sorry but why would Dropbox want your location anyway!

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 20:54, David Chittenden wrote:
 After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background
with fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which
ones will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is
dropbox. When I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my
status bar.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:



 Good Afternoon All,

 I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of
staying on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It
hadn't affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.

 I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this
BTW)

 I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently
using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.
So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the
status line.

 I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no
avail.

 So I googled location services constantly running and found the following
forum

 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935

 There it told me to go to the following:

 You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off
the individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare,
or Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will
not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
 For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all
the apps updating in the background even when they were closed.

 Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open
the associated app.

 This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and
suddenly the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is
launched as it does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app
switcher the location Services goes off in the status line.

 Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.

 I hope this helps someone out there.

 Katey

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
wrote:

 No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location
services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring
when they are not open in the foreground.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location
services, such as a GPS app useless?

 Andy


 -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining

 The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the
status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it
again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.

 Go to settings, general, background app refresh.

 Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more
time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical
situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less
than 1% of the user base. Every email to
 accessibil...@apple.com
 helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more
people have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward
fixing the problem.

 As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember
back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised
note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year
between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until then, if
the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not
be upgraded without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the
annual upgrade fee was usually rather significant.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi David,

 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening
before going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the
drainage. It dropped 35% in a 3 1

Re: Battery draining

[David Chittenden]

Yes, and, in such a way that it is always requesting my location, even when the 
app is closed and out of the app switcher.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Mar 2014, at 10:05, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry but why would Dropbox want your location anyway!
 
 Regards Chris
 
 Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
 
 On 16/03/2014 20:54, David Chittenden wrote:
 After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with 
 fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones 
 will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox. 
 When I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Good Afternoon All,
 
 I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of staying 
 on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It hadn't 
 affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.
 
 I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW)
 
 I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently 
 using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.  
 So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in 
 the status line.
 
 I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no avail.
 
 So I googled location services constantly running and found the following 
 forum
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935
 
 There it told me to go to the following:
 
 You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off 
 the individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, 
 or Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but 
 will not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
 For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the 
 apps updating in the background even when they were closed.
 
 Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the 
 associated app.
 
 This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and 
 suddenly the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is 
 launched as it does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app 
 switcher the location Services goes off in the status line.
 
 Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.
 
 I hope this helps someone out there.
 
 Katey
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location 
 services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring 
 when they are not open in the foreground.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location 
 services, such as a GPS app useless?
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the 
 status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted 
 it again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
 
 Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
 
 Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more 
 time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical 
 situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are 
 less than 1% of the user base. Every email to
 accessibil...@apple.com
 helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more 
 people have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed 
 toward fixing the problem.
 
 As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember 
 back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised 
 note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a 
 year between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until 
 then, if the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some 
 devices could not be upgraded without sending them back to the 
 manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade fee was usually rather 
 significant.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 
 The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening 
 before going out I charged

RE: Battery draining

[Michael G McKay]

Hi! All:

I have had the iPhone5, for almost two years, and had the issue of the
battery draining a lot. I remedied that by opening the app switcher, and
turning off all apps that were running at the time. I made a practice of
doing that after each time I used apps, and along with locking the screen, I
had no further problem with that issue of battery drain.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely!
Michael G. McKay


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Katey Glass
Sent: March 16, 2014 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

Glad to hear it helped!  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:54 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background
with fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which
ones will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is
dropbox. When I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my
status bar.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Good Afternoon All,
 
 I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of
staying on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It
hadn't affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.

 
 I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this 
 BTW)
 
 I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently
using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.
So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the
status line.  
 
 I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no
avail.  
 
 So I googled location services constantly running and found the 
 following forum
 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935
 
 There it told me to go to the following:
 
 You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off
the individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare,
or Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will
not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
 For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all
the apps updating in the background even when they were closed.
 
 Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open
the associated app.
 
 This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and
suddenly the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is
launched as it does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app
switcher the location Services goes off in the status line.  
 
 Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.  
 
 I hope this helps someone out there.  
 
 Katey
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location
services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring
when they are not open in the foreground.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location
services, such as a GPS app useless?
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Battery draining
 
 The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the
status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it
again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
 
 Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
 
 Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take 
 more time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for 
 critical situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO
users are less than 1% of the user base. Every email to
accessibil...@apple.com helps because more emails about the same issue means
they know more people have the problem, so they will increase the resources
directed toward fixing the problem.
 
 As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember
back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised
note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year
between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until then, if
the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not
be upgraded without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the
annual upgrade fee was usually rather significant.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21

Re: Battery draining

[Chris Apple boy]

Very true and I disallow all but weather and map applications.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 21:06, Corey Michael Cook wrote:

Many apps want your location that you would assume don't need your location.


Corey Cook
Facebook:
corey.coo...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Apple boy
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

Sorry but why would Dropbox want your location anyway!

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 16/03/2014 20:54, David Chittenden wrote:

After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background

with fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which
ones will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is
dropbox. When I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my
status bar.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:



Good Afternoon All,

I just wanted to let you know that this location services bug of

staying on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It
hadn't affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.


I first went to Privacy Location services (I turned on VO to do this

BTW)


I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently

using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.
So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the
status line.


I did a hard boot, holding the power button  the home button to no

avail.


So I googled location services constantly running and found the following

forum


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935

There it told me to go to the following:

You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off

the individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare,
or Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will
not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.

For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all

the apps updating in the background even when they were closed.


Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open

the associated app.


This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and

suddenly the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is
launched as it does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app
switcher the location Services goes off in the status line.


Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.

I hope this helps someone out there.

Katey

Sent from my iPad


On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com

wrote:


No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location

services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring
when they are not open in the foreground.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location

services, such as a GPS app useless?


Andy


-Original Message- From: David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the

status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it
again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.


Go to settings, general, background app refresh.

Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more

time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical
situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less
than 1% of the user base. Every email to

accessibil...@apple.com
helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more

people have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward
fixing the problem.


As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember

back to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised
note-taker. It usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year
between updates, and we always had to live with the problem until then, if
the problem was even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not
be upgraded without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the
annual upgrade fee was usually rather significant.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com

wrote:


Hi David

Re: Was I had a long talk with Apple Re: battery draining

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven't looked into it, and my observation is just anecdotal, but I do 
seem to notice more of a battery drain than I recalled with IOS 7.0.6.


On 03/14/2014 08:45 PM, Feliciano G wrote:

I have not read all of the emails regarding this topic, but I have the iPhone 5 
with the latest iOS version. I have no problems with battery levels draining 
faster than normal.

   Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone


On Mar 14, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Esther Levegnale elevegn...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

Hi, Lois,

The voice on my phone is the same.  I keeping looking for the message from the 
person who indicated having a long talk with Apple about battery drainage.

Esther Levegnale

Sent from Esther's Amazing iPhone!


On Mar 14, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:

On 3/14/14, Lois Butterfield lbutterfield...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,

I am wondering if it has to do with the new voice.  It seems to me it is
louder, and I can hear a background sound underneath that I never noticed
before.  I really think that is what is helping to drain the battery.

Lois

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Esther Levegnale
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining

Hi, JoJo,

I  am also having this experience as well.  Someone on the list mentioned
this a couple of days ago and said that you need to go into Background App
Refresh in the Settings menu under General and the Background App Refresh
is
after Usage.  You need to turn off apps such as GPS apps which are running
in the background.  I did this and also turned Background App Refresh off
and my battery is still running down faster than before the upgrade.  I
don't know what else to tell you and I apologize.

Esther Levegnale

Sent from Esther's Amazing iPhone!


On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:14 AM, JoJo and Clinton

pabl...@buckeye-express.com wrote:


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Hello all, I just got off the phone with Apple's technical support.
And they ran a diagnostic on my phone specifically and my phone was
acting normal so I recommend anybody and everybody who has been having
the battery drain problem call and get their phone tested to make sure
it's acting normal and then they're going to want you to perform the
hard reset and the restore process and then call back if that doesn't
work.  And if you need the number to call them the numbers here in the
US is, 1-800-275-2273 and just so you know the rep that I spoke with
was the not aware of any of these issues she said her phone was acting
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Re: Battery draining

[Dawn Petty]

if any of you use solara and leave it running that is a battery drainer for 
sure.  be sure to close when you are done.



-Original Message- 
From: Eileen Misrahi

Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery draining

Hello,

I thought I was imagining this, but now that I have paid attention to  the 
battery life on my ipHone4 using 7.0.6, it has drained quicker then when I 
had iOS 6.1.2. I am on my second charge for the day, which before a charge 
would last close to 24 hours or more depending upon the amount of use. I'll 
have to take a look at the settings for brightness and which location 
services I can turn off to save more on the battery life. I hope this does 
the trick.


Eileen
On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:05 PM, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:




Sent from my iPhone
I have turned off all the items listed by previous posters. In my home on 
my for S using Wi-Fi my battery is dropping about 15% per hour.


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Re: Battery draining

[Tarapprakash]

Otherwise, how is iphone4 is performing with upgrade?


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 14, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, 
 
 I thought I was imagining this, but now that I have paid attention to  the 
 battery life on my ipHone4 using 7.0.6, it has drained quicker then when I 
 had iOS 6.1.2. I am on my second charge for the day, which before a charge 
 would last close to 24 hours or more depending upon the amount of use. I'll 
 have to take a look at the settings for brightness and which location 
 services I can turn off to save more on the battery life. I hope this does 
 the trick. 
 
 Eileen  
 On Mar 14, 2014, at 3:05 PM, david gross david.dgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 I have turned off all the items listed by previous posters. In my home on my 
 for S using Wi-Fi my battery is dropping about 15% per hour.
 
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Re: battery draining

[Alex Stone]

Yes I am, and at's a big pain in the ass, I have to now charge my phone 
twice a day rather than once.

Cheers
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On 14/03/2014 13:14, JoJo and Clinton wrote:
I have an IPhone 5, running the latest version of I O S; however, 
since I have updated to the latest version, my battery seems to be 
draining a lot faster.  Is anyone else experienceing this?  If anyone 
has any suggestions for me any help would be appreciated.

Thanks so much.
JoJo
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Re: battery draining

[Alex Stone]

Chris, it's pretty well documented that Bluetooth gets turned on in the 
upgrade, but I didn't notice because I had it turned on before.

Cheers
Alex
On 14/03/2014 19:19, Apple boy wrote:
Make sure bluetooth is not turned on it was on my 4s even though it 
was off previously.


Regards Chris

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On 14/03/2014 13:14, JoJo and Clinton wrote:
I have an IPhone 5, running the latest version of I O S; however, 
since I have updated to the latest version, my battery seems to be 
draining a lot faster.  Is anyone else experienceing this?  If anyone 
has any suggestions for me any help would be appreciated.


Thanks so much.

JoJo





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Re: battery draining

[Alex Stone]

This only works to an extent, as under ios version 7.06 these apps in 
the background didn't particularly drain the battery.

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On 14/03/2014 19:58, Esther Levegnale wrote:

Hi, JoJo,

I  am also having this experience as well.  Someone on the list mentioned this 
a couple of days ago and said that you need to go into Background App Refresh 
in the Settings menu under General and the Background App Refresh is after 
Usage.  You need to turn off apps such as GPS apps which are running in the 
background.  I did this and also turned Background App Refresh off and my 
battery is still running down faster than before the upgrade.  I don't know 
what else to tell you and I apologize.

Esther Levegnale

Sent from Esther's Amazing iPhone!


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Re: battery draining

[Les Kriegler]

I was concerned about the use of the batteries well. It seemed to be draining 
faster than before the upgrade. However, I went into settings and noticed that 
brightness was back to 100%. I turned it down to zero and now my battery seems 
to be behaving as before.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Alex Stone alex.st...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This only works to an extent, as under ios version 7.06 these apps in the 
 background didn't particularly drain the battery.
 Cheers
 Alex
 On 14/03/2014 19:58, Esther Levegnale wrote:
 Hi, JoJo,
 
 I  am also having this experience as well.  Someone on the list mentioned 
 this a couple of days ago and said that you need to go into Background App 
 Refresh in the Settings menu under General and the Background App Refresh is 
 after Usage.  You need to turn off apps such as GPS apps which are running 
 in the background.  I did this and also turned Background App Refresh off 
 and my battery is still running down faster than before the upgrade.  I 
 don't know what else to tell you and I apologize.
 
 Esther Levegnale
 
 Sent from Esther's Amazing iPhone!
 
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 pabl...@buckeye-express.com wrote:
 
 
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RE: battery draining

[Neal Ewers]

Interesting, my brightness remained at 0 after the update.

 

Neal

 

 

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Subject: Re: battery draining

 

I was concerned about the use of the batteries well. It seemed to be draining 
faster than before the upgrade. However, I went into settings and noticed that 
brightness was back to 100%. I turned it down to zero and now my battery seems 
to be behaving as before.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Alex Stone alex.st...@gmail.com wrote:

This only works to an extent, as under ios version 7.06 these apps in the 
background didn't particularly drain the battery.
Cheers
Alex

On 14/03/2014 19:58, Esther Levegnale wrote:

Hi, JoJo,
 
I  am also having this experience as well.  Someone on the list mentioned this 
a couple of days ago and said that you need to go into Background App Refresh 
in the Settings menu under General and the Background App Refresh is after 
Usage.  You need to turn off apps such as GPS apps which are running in the 
background.  I did this and also turned Background App Refresh off and my 
battery is still running down faster than before the upgrade.  I don't know 
what else to tell you and I apologize.
 
Esther Levegnale
 
Sent from Esther's Amazing iPhone!
 

On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:14 AM, JoJo and Clinton  
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Re: battery draining

[Les Kriegler]

Well, perhaps it was changed when updating to 7.06, I don't know. In any event, 
I'm much happier with the way the battery holds up now.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Interesting, my brightness remained at 0 after the update.
  
 Neal
  
  
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 Les Kriegler
 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:51 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: battery draining
  
 I was concerned about the use of the batteries well. It seemed to be draining 
 faster than before the upgrade. However, I went into settings and noticed 
 that brightness was back to 100%. I turned it down to zero and now my battery 
 seems to be behaving as before.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Alex Stone alex.st...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This only works to an extent, as under ios version 7.06 these apps in the 
 background didn't particularly drain the battery.
 Cheers
 Alex
 On 14/03/2014 19:58, Esther Levegnale wrote:
 Hi, JoJo,
  
 I  am also having this experience as well.  Someone on the list mentioned 
 this a couple of days ago and said that you need to go into Background App 
 Refresh in the Settings menu under General and the Background App Refresh is 
 after Usage.  You need to turn off apps such as GPS apps which are running in 
 the background.  I did this and also turned Background App Refresh off and my 
 battery is still running down faster than before the upgrade.  I don't know 
 what else to tell you and I apologize.
  
 Esther Levegnale
  
 Sent from Esther's Amazing iPhone!
  
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