Re: knfb reader

[Arnold Schmidt]

I reported earlier that KNFB reader would not open on my phone, either. I just 
re-installed it, and it opens now. Let's hope it continues to do so. 

Arnold Schmidt 

On Feb 15, 2019, at 3:33 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:

I just did after asking the question.
 
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When I attempt to open it it immediately closes.
 
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Re: knfb reader

[Arnold Schmidt]

Mine won't open, either. I am running it on an iPhone 6, with IOS 12.1.4. 

Arnold Schmidt 

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I just did after asking the question.
 
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RE: knfb reader

[Robert Wright]

I just did after asking the question.

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Re: knfb reader

[Paul Sandoval]

Have you tried to deleting and reinstalling the app?



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On Feb 14, 2019, at 5:43 PM, Robert Wright 
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When I attempt to open it it immediately closes.

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RE: knfb reader

[Robert Wright]

I had to delete and reinstall it. Now it works fine.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
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From: Bill Outman
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Don’t know about staying open, but I just opened it on my 8 Plus running 
version 12 and it opened and I landed on the take picture button.  

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Since the 12 update has anyone else had a problem getting knfb to open and stay 
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Re: knfb reader

[Anthony Vece]

To tell you the truth I use it as little as possible

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> On Nov 29, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Robert Wright  wrote:
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> Since the 12 update has anyone else had a problem getting knfb to open and 
> stay open?
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RE: knfb reader

[Bill Outman]

Don’t know about staying open, but I just opened it on my 8 Plus running 
version 12 and it opened and I landed on the take picture button.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

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Since the 12 update has anyone else had a problem getting knfb to open and stay 
open?

 

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RE: KNFB Reader

[Robert Wright]

I did that. I also turned the phone off completely. I was running 12 beta and 
removed it and still no go.

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From: Richard Turner
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Maybe before that, clear your app switcher and reboot. 
It opens for me, though I almost never use it now since Seeing AI.
Richard


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KNFB is not opening since my update to 12.1. is it possible that I may need to 
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Re: KNFB Reader

[Richard Turner]

Maybe before that, clear your app switcher and reboot.
It opens for me, though I almost never use it now since Seeing AI.
Richard



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KNFB is not opening since my update to 12.1. is it possible that I may need to 
delete and reinstall it?

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you!
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RE: KNFB Reader version 3.0 dropped yesterday and contains new options

[llumpkin]

Wonder if they pulled it back.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Harry 
Bell
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader version 3.0 dropped yesterday and contains new options

 

I downloaded this new version of the app. I imported a PDF. I tried to do 
something with PDF but there was no option to export it in plain text format so 
that I could put it into a Pages document. When I save the document I only have 
the option of PDF or KNFB format and when it says the document the app crashes. 
Harry


On 4 May 2018, at 19:43, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com 
<mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi List,

 

I just upgraded my KNFB Reader to version 3.0 which dropped yesterday and have 
a couple of comments to make and wanted to hear of others' experience with this 
new version.

 

In the Camera settings, KNFB Reader now contains an option to set the default 
file type for recognized documents. The two options are PDF and KNFB. I'm not 
positive but it seems that when PDF is picked, the scanned document might be 
formatted. I scanned a one page document and got the usual very good scanning 
results but my limited vision seemed to indicate that the page might also have 
been formatted like the original item. One thing I did have a problem with was 
when I select the Files button from the bottomline menu, KNFB Reader closes. It 
is still running in the App Switcher but this seems to be a bug.

 

I'm curious what others have experienced with this new version of KNFB Reader 
and whether you're getting a similar result when executing the Files button.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: KNFB Reader version 3.0 dropped yesterday and contains new options

[Harry Bell]

I downloaded this new version of the app. I imported a PDF. I tried to do 
something with PDF but there was no option to export it in plain text format so 
that I could put it into a Pages document. When I save the document I only have 
the option of PDF or KNFB format and when it says the document the app crashes. 
Harry

> On 4 May 2018, at 19:43, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I just upgraded my KNFB Reader to version 3.0 which dropped yesterday and 
> have a couple of comments to make and wanted to hear of others' experience 
> with this new version.
>  
> In the Camera settings, KNFB Reader now contains an option to set the default 
> file type for recognized documents. The two options are PDF and KNFB. I'm not 
> positive but it seems that when PDF is picked, the scanned document might be 
> formatted. I scanned a one page document and got the usual very good scanning 
> results but my limited vision seemed to indicate that the page might also 
> have been formatted like the original item. One thing I did have a problem 
> with was when I select the Files button from the bottomline menu, KNFB Reader 
> closes. It is still running in the App Switcher but this seems to be a bug.
>  
> I'm curious what others have experienced with this new version of KNFB Reader 
> and whether you're getting a similar result when executing the Files button.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: KNFB Reader version 3.0 dropped yesterday and contains new options

[pegkane52]

Hi Alan,
I’ve had the same is experiences as you have had.
. Take care.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On May 4, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I just upgraded my KNFB Reader to version 3.0 which dropped yesterday and 
> have a couple of comments to make and wanted to hear of others' experience 
> with this new version.
>  
> In the Camera settings, KNFB Reader now contains an option to set the default 
> file type for recognized documents. The two options are PDF and KNFB. I'm not 
> positive but it seems that when PDF is picked, the scanned document might be 
> formatted. I scanned a one page document and got the usual very good scanning 
> results but my limited vision seemed to indicate that the page might also 
> have been formatted like the original item. One thing I did have a problem 
> with was when I select the Files button from the bottomline menu, KNFB Reader 
> closes. It is still running in the App Switcher but this seems to be a bug.
>  
> I'm curious what others have experienced with this new version of KNFB Reader 
> and whether you're getting a similar result when executing the Files button.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: KNFB Reader in iOS 11.3

[Harry Bell]

Removing the app then turning phone off and on again and then reinstalling KNFB 
Reader worked a treat! Back to its previous brilliant functioning. Whew! Thank 
you!
Regards
Harry

> On 19 Apr 2018, at 17:18, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> I just took a picture of a recipe my wife printed out and KNFB Reader read it 
> perfectly, at one point it said "Citrantro" instead of "Cilantro", but that 
> was the only mistake on a full page of print I could detect.
> Make sure your lens is clean? If it is and you still have trouble I would 
> delete KNFB Reader and reinstall it.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: KNFB Reader in iOS 11.3
> 
> Has anyone noticed KNFB Reader malfunctioning of late? Since iOS 11.3, KNFB 
> Reader has randomly crashed when taking a photo of text with my iPhone 7 Plus 
> and I always fail to get a comprehensible text read back to me: instead, I 
> get a long string of random characters and symbols. It used to work so well!
> Harry
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RE: KNFB Reader in iOS 11.3

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just took a picture of a recipe my wife printed out and KNFB Reader read it 
perfectly, at one point it said "Citrantro" instead of "Cilantro", but that was 
the only mistake on a full page of print I could detect.
Make sure your lens is clean? If it is and you still have trouble I would 
delete KNFB Reader and reinstall it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Harry 
Bell
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 6:22 AM
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Subject: KNFB Reader in iOS 11.3

Has anyone noticed KNFB Reader malfunctioning of late? Since iOS 11.3, KNFB 
Reader has randomly crashed when taking a photo of text with my iPhone 7 Plus 
and I always fail to get a comprehensible text read back to me: instead, I get 
a long string of random characters and symbols. It used to work so well!
Harry

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Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[Richard Turner]

No scanning software should be trusted with things like tax forms. Not 
Openbook, Kurzweil or anything on a phone. Accuracy is simply too important.
Just My Opinion,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 20, 2018, at 5:52 PM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, for certain documents where accurate results are absolutely essential 
(tax forms, for example) I'm not sure either will work completely.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Below is a scan of the back cover of a paperback first done with Seeing AI.  
Following that, is the same back cover done with KNFB Reader.  Sitting at my 
desk using my iPhone SE.

Back cover with Seeing AI:

and Heroism!

ARE YOU READY?

iant earthquakes and tsunamis devastate western Oregon every 300 to 600 years. 
The last one hit in 1700, so we're due anytime. This informative, entertaining
book tells the stories of Oregon's past floods, fires, and eruptions. Then it 
investigates the cycles behind our natural disasters and takes a look at
what may happen when the next "Big One" strikes.

Also by WILLIAM L. SULLIVAN

Oregon Inrs& I rails - Cabm Fever - l_ustenmg for Covote

The 100 lltkes" sent•sfor Oregon • A Peeper J Vilå

History - [rplonng Oregon' Wild Areas - 17K Case of[msfem's Vtoltn

Navillus Press

1958 Onvx Street

Eugene, OR 97403 
aww.oregonhiking.com<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faww.oregonhiking.com=02%7C01%7C%7Cfacf99d04bb54466df5508d560719bb6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636520963417096863=Yjwm7%2FPS8SPfbTwe8MhgE77HwugaBqt1vQ7hjhmR2qQ%3D=0>

ISBN 0-9815701-0-0 S18.95


Now the same back cover done with KNFB Reader:

FfJt ^ ^^^ and Heroism • , • ^ ? ARE YOU READY? Giant edrthquakcs iin -1 
tsunamis (.lcviist^tc western Oregon every 300 to 600 years. The last one hit 
in 1700, so we're due anytime. Tliis infonritttivc, enterLuning Ixiok tells the 
stories of Oregon's past floods, fires, anJ eruptions. Then it iiivcsti^tcs the 
cycles behind our natural dis^stei-s tUtd ttikes a look At what nuy happen 
wlicn tltc next "Big One'' strikes. I hkiH^ Or^^n's. ii^t^ty l' ^! ^nn^0fv^m^ 
ilti Arc^ " Tfy C ^ tfr:n (n t h') n Also by WILLIAM L. SULLIVAN Vh' "1W Hike^' 
f;i4i l ~l ^ •fw.- A" Onyn • A Pci' vr l ,;J 1W Onv Stnvt I'u^w, OR 97403 - . , 
-. y rf -M^ - - S1S05 •-• •^ 80S

Richard



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

That is the precise experience I have. I today used it on some other documents 
besides the court ones I described, with the same result; KNFB Reader gave much 
better quality and was much easier to get the document in view of the camera.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Nancy Badger 
<nancybad...@icloud.com<mailto:nancybad...@icloud.com>> wrote:
The only reason I use kNFB FB reader now is  is when I want to have more than 
one page in a single document. I don’t think seeing AI does that yet.
Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:21 PM, 
englishride...@gmail.com<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. I'm 
getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little faster--I 
guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is processed by 
Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being no text. It's 
super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's default is to control 
the flash automatically, and since I do get results on the same text using the 
short text channel, I have no idea why this is happening.


Thanks,
Ari

On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
That is not my experience at all.
But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera to 
a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode is 
to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes the 
focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really designed 
for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.
But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update this 
year for KNFB.
Something I've asked for since it was re

Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[kelby carlson]

Well, for certain documents where accurate results are absolutely essential 
(tax forms, for example) I'm not sure either will work completely.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 6:28 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Below is a scan of the back cover of a paperback first done with Seeing AI.  
> Following that, is the same back cover done with KNFB Reader.  Sitting at my 
> desk using my iPhone SE.
>  
> Back cover with Seeing AI:
>  
> and Heroism!
>  
> ARE YOU READY?
>  
> iant earthquakes and tsunamis devastate western Oregon every 300 to 600 
> years. The last one hit in 1700, so we're due anytime. This informative, 
> entertaining
> book tells the stories of Oregon's past floods, fires, and eruptions. Then it 
> investigates the cycles behind our natural disasters and takes a look at
> what may happen when the next "Big One" strikes.
>  
> Also by WILLIAM L. SULLIVAN
>  
> Oregon Inrs& I rails - Cabm Fever - l_ustenmg for Covote
>  
> The 100 lltkes" sent•sfor Oregon • A Peeper J Vilå
>  
> History - [rplonng Oregon' Wild Areas - 17K Case of[msfem's Vtoltn
>  
> Navillus Press
>  
> 1958 Onvx Street
>  
> Eugene, OR 97403 aww.oregonhiking.com
>  
> ISBN 0-9815701-0-0 S18.95
>  
>  
> Now the same back cover done with KNFB Reader:
>  
> FfJt ^ ^^^ and Heroism • , • ^ ? ARE YOU READY? Giant edrthquakcs iin -1 
> tsunamis (.lcviist^tc western Oregon every 300 to 600 years. The last one hit 
> in 1700, so we're due anytime. Tliis infonritttivc, enterLuning Ixiok tells 
> the stories of Oregon's past floods, fires, anJ eruptions. Then it 
> iiivcsti^tcs the cycles behind our natural dis^stei-s tUtd ttikes a look At 
> what nuy happen wlicn tltc next "Big One'' strikes. I hkiH^ Or^^n's. ii^t^ty 
> l' ^! ^nn^0fv^m^ ilti Arc^ " Tfy C ^ tfr:n (n t h') n Also by WILLIAM L. 
> SULLIVAN Vh' "1W Hike^' f;i4i l ~l ^ •fw.- A" Onyn • A Pci' vr l ,;J 1W Onv 
> Stnvt I'u^w, OR 97403 - . , -. y rf -M^ - - S1S05 •-• •^ 80S
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kelby carlson
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI
>  
> That is the precise experience I have. I today used it on some other 
> documents besides the court ones I described, with the same result; KNFB 
> Reader gave much better quality and was much easier to get the document in 
> view of the camera.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Nancy Badger <nancybad...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> The only reason I use kNFB FB reader now is  is when I want to have more than 
> one page in a single document. I don’t think seeing AI does that yet.
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Executive Director of Counseling
> Old Dominion University
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:21 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. 
> I'm getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little 
> faster--I guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is 
> processed by Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being no 
> text. It's super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's default 
> is to control the flash automatically, and since I do get results on the same 
> text using the short text channel, I have no idea why this is happening.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> That is not my experience at all.
> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera 
> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode 
> is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes 
> the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really 
> designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.
> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update 
> this year for KNFB.
> Something I've asked for since it was released.
> Here's hoping it finally happens.
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal wi

RE: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[Richard Turner]

Below is a scan of the back cover of a paperback first done with Seeing AI.  
Following that, is the same back cover done with KNFB Reader.  Sitting at my 
desk using my iPhone SE.

Back cover with Seeing AI:

and Heroism!

ARE YOU READY?

iant earthquakes and tsunamis devastate western Oregon every 300 to 600 years. 
The last one hit in 1700, so we're due anytime. This informative, entertaining
book tells the stories of Oregon's past floods, fires, and eruptions. Then it 
investigates the cycles behind our natural disasters and takes a look at
what may happen when the next "Big One" strikes.

Also by WILLIAM L. SULLIVAN

Oregon Inrs& I rails - Cabm Fever - l_ustenmg for Covote

The 100 lltkes" sent•sfor Oregon • A Peeper J Vilå

History - [rplonng Oregon' Wild Areas - 17K Case of[msfem's Vtoltn

Navillus Press

1958 Onvx Street

Eugene, OR 97403 aww.oregonhiking.com

ISBN 0-9815701-0-0 S18.95


Now the same back cover done with KNFB Reader:

FfJt ^ ^^^ and Heroism • , • ^ ? ARE YOU READY? Giant edrthquakcs iin -1 
tsunamis (.lcviist^tc western Oregon every 300 to 600 years. The last one hit 
in 1700, so we're due anytime. Tliis infonritttivc, enterLuning Ixiok tells the 
stories of Oregon's past floods, fires, anJ eruptions. Then it iiivcsti^tcs the 
cycles behind our natural dis^stei-s tUtd ttikes a look At what nuy happen 
wlicn tltc next "Big One'' strikes. I hkiH^ Or^^n's. ii^t^ty l' ^! ^nn^0fv^m^ 
ilti Arc^ " Tfy C ^ tfr:n (n t h') n Also by WILLIAM L. SULLIVAN Vh' "1W Hike^' 
f;i4i l ~l ^ •fw.- A" Onyn • A Pci' vr l ,;J 1W Onv Stnvt I'u^w, OR 97403 - . , 
-. y rf -M^ - - S1S05 •-• •^ 80S

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

That is the precise experience I have. I today used it on some other documents 
besides the court ones I described, with the same result; KNFB Reader gave much 
better quality and was much easier to get the document in view of the camera.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Nancy Badger 
<nancybad...@icloud.com<mailto:nancybad...@icloud.com>> wrote:
The only reason I use kNFB FB reader now is  is when I want to have more than 
one page in a single document. I don’t think seeing AI does that yet.
Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:21 PM, 
englishride...@gmail.com<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. I'm 
getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little faster--I 
guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is processed by 
Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being no text. It's 
super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's default is to control 
the flash automatically, and since I do get results on the same text using the 
short text channel, I have no idea why this is happening.


Thanks,
Ari

On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
That is not my experience at all.
But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera to 
a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode is 
to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes the 
focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really designed 
for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.
But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update this 
year for KNFB.
Something I've asked for since it was released.
Here's hoping it finally happens.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper documents. 
So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to really compare 
KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I bought it) and 
Seeing AI.

My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
country mile.

Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the basic 
information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with Seeing 
AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not visible no 
matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone really high and 
got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not recognize a bit of text.

Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[kelby carlson]

That is the precise experience I have. I today used it on some other documents 
besides the court ones I described, with the same result; KNFB Reader gave much 
better quality and was much easier to get the document in view of the camera.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> The only reason I use kNFB FB reader now is  is when I want to have more than 
> one page in a single document. I don’t think seeing AI does that yet.
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Executive Director of Counseling
> Old Dominion University
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:21 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. 
>> I'm getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little 
>> faster--I guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is 
>> processed by Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being 
>> no text. It's super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's 
>> default is to control the flash automatically, and since I do get results on 
>> the same text using the short text channel, I have no idea why this is 
>> happening.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is not my experience at all.
>>> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
>>> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera 
>>> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text 
>>> mode is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or 
>>> changes the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't 
>>> really designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel 
>>> is for.
>>> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
>>> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update 
>>> this year for KNFB.
>>> Something I've asked for since it was released.
>>> Here's hoping it finally happens.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
 So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper 
 documents. So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to 
 really compare KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though 
 I bought it) and Seeing AI.
 
 My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by 
 a country mile.
 
 Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the 
 basic information about a case. When trying to do the document channel 
 with Seeing AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was 
 not visible no matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the 
 phone really high and got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not 
 recognize a bit of text.
 
 With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views 
 to orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with 
 very few flaws at all.
 
 In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. 
 I can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.
 
 Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than 
 the document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled 
 text ap some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a 
 milimeter.
 
 So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.
 
 
 
 
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Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[Nancy Badger]

The only reason I use kNFB FB reader now is  is when I want to have more than 
one page in a single document. I don’t think seeing AI does that yet.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:21 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. 
> I'm getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little 
> faster--I guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is 
> processed by Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being no 
> text. It's super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's default 
> is to control the flash automatically, and since I do get results on the same 
> text using the short text channel, I have no idea why this is happening.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That is not my experience at all. 
>> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
>> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera 
>> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text 
>> mode is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or 
>> changes the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't 
>> really designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel 
>> is for.
>> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
>> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update 
>> this year for KNFB.
>> Something I've asked for since it was released.
>> Here's hoping it finally happens.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>>> So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper 
>>> documents. So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to 
>>> really compare KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I 
>>> bought it) and Seeing AI.
>>> 
>>> My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
>>> country mile.
>>> 
>>> Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the 
>>> basic information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with 
>>> Seeing AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not 
>>> visible no matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone 
>>> really high and got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not 
>>> recognize a bit of text.
>>> 
>>> With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
>>> orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very 
>>> few flaws at all.
>>> 
>>> In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. 
>>> I can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.
>>> 
>>> Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
>>> document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text 
>>> ap some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.
>>> 
>>> So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[englishrider91]

I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. I'm 
getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little faster--I 
guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is processed by 
Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being no text. It's 
super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's default is to control 
the flash automatically, and since I do get results on the same text using the 
short text channel, I have no idea why this is happening.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> That is not my experience at all.
> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera 
> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode 
> is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes 
> the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really 
> designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.
> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update 
> this year for KNFB.
> Something I've asked for since it was released.
> Here's hoping it finally happens.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
>> So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper 
>> documents. So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to 
>> really compare KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I 
>> bought it) and Seeing AI.
>> 
>> My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
>> country mile.
>> 
>> Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the 
>> basic information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with 
>> Seeing AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not 
>> visible no matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone 
>> really high and got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not 
>> recognize a bit of text.
>> 
>> With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
>> orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very 
>> few flaws at all.
>> 
>> In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
>> can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.
>> 
>> Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
>> document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
>> some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.
>> 
>> So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[ajvece]

That Seeing AI app really amazes me!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

 

Would be nice if KNFB would also include an instant mode where it reads what 
the camera sees without having to interact with the phone.

I also find that in many situations the short text channel in the Seeing AI app 
does all the OCR I need.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

 

That is not my experience at all. 

But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.

With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera to 
a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode is 
to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes the 
focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really designed 
for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.

But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.

Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update this 
year for KNFB.

Something I've asked for since it was released.

Here's hoping it finally happens.

Richard

 

 

(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper documents. 
So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to really compare 
KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I bought it) and 
Seeing AI.

My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
country mile.

Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the basic 
information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with Seeing 
AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not visible no 
matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone really high and 
got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not recognize a bit of text.

With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very few 
flaws at all.

In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.

Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.

So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.




Sent from my iPhone

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RE: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Would be nice if KNFB would also include an instant mode where it reads what 
the camera sees without having to interact with the phone.
I also find that in many situations the short text channel in the Seeing AI app 
does all the OCR I need.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

That is not my experience at all.
But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera to 
a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode is 
to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes the 
focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really designed 
for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.
But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update this 
year for KNFB.
Something I've asked for since it was released.
Here's hoping it finally happens.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper documents. 
So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to really compare 
KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I bought it) and 
Seeing AI.

My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
country mile.

Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the basic 
information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with Seeing 
AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not visible no 
matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone really high and 
got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not recognize a bit of text.

With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very few 
flaws at all.

In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.

Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.

So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.




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Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[Richard Turner]

No, once the picture is taken, you can set the phone down.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 19, 2018, at 4:24 PM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Is it necessary to hold the phone still while the image is processing?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not know if that has an impact on Seeing AI.  It might since it is 
attempting to retain the format.
I’d suggest writing seein...@microsoft.com<mailto:seein...@microsoft.com> and 
asking them that very question.
This is just the kind of thing that they could then add to its capability 
perhaps.

Later,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 19, 2018, at 1:19 PM, Cristóbal 
<crismuno...@gmail.com<mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Can’t remember the last time I used KNFBReader on my phone. Immediacy of 
scanning results is what makes me partial to SeeingAI hands down at this point. 
Even if scanning results were marginally better in KNFBReader, the fact that 
you can get feedback almost instantaneously in SeeingAI
Would for me anyway outweigh the difference in OCR results. That and the added 
channels too. KNFBReader’s got some major catching up to do.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

That is not my experience at all.
But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera to 
a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode is 
to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes the 
focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really designed 
for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.
But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update this 
year for KNFB.
Something I've asked for since it was released.
Here's hoping it finally happens.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper documents. 
So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to really compare 
KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I bought it) and 
Seeing AI.

My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
country mile.

Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the basic 
information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with Seeing 
AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not visible no 
matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone really high and 
got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not recognize a bit of text.

With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very few 
flaws at all.

In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.

Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.

So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.




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Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[kelby carlson]

Is it necessary to hold the phone still while the image is processing?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I do not know if that has an impact on Seeing AI.  It might since it is 
> attempting to retain the format.
> I’d suggest writing seein...@microsoft.com and asking them that very question.
> This is just the kind of thing that they could then add to its capability 
> perhaps.
> 
> Later,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 1:19 PM, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can’t remember the last time I used KNFBReader on my phone. Immediacy of 
>> scanning results is what makes me partial to SeeingAI hands down at this 
>> point. Even if scanning results were marginally better in KNFBReader, the 
>> fact that you can get feedback almost instantaneously in SeeingAI
>> Would for me anyway outweigh the difference in OCR results. That and the 
>> added channels too. KNFBReader’s got some major catching up to do.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI
>>  
>> That is not my experience at all.
>> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
>> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera 
>> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text 
>> mode is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or 
>> changes the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't 
>> really designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel 
>> is for.
>> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
>> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update 
>> this year for KNFB.
>> Something I've asked for since it was released.
>> Here's hoping it finally happens.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper 
>> documents. So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to 
>> really compare KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I 
>> bought it) and Seeing AI.
>> 
>> My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
>> country mile.
>> 
>> Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the 
>> basic information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with 
>> Seeing AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not 
>> visible no matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone 
>> really high and got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not 
>> recognize a bit of text.
>> 
>> With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
>> orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very 
>> few flaws at all.
>> 
>> In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
>> can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.
>> 
>> Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
>> document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
>> some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.
>> 
>> So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[Richard Turner]

I do not know if that has an impact on Seeing AI.  It might since it is 
attempting to retain the format.
I’d suggest writing seein...@microsoft.com<mailto:seein...@microsoft.com> and 
asking them that very question.
This is just the kind of thing that they could then add to its capability 
perhaps.

Later,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 19, 2018, at 1:19 PM, Cristóbal 
<crismuno...@gmail.com<mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Can’t remember the last time I used KNFBReader on my phone. Immediacy of 
scanning results is what makes me partial to SeeingAI hands down at this point. 
Even if scanning results were marginally better in KNFBReader, the fact that 
you can get feedback almost instantaneously in SeeingAI
Would for me anyway outweigh the difference in OCR results. That and the added 
channels too. KNFBReader’s got some major catching up to do.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

That is not my experience at all.
But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera to 
a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode is 
to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes the 
focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really designed 
for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.
But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update this 
year for KNFB.
Something I've asked for since it was released.
Here's hoping it finally happens.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper documents. 
So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to really compare 
KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I bought it) and 
Seeing AI.

My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
country mile.

Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the basic 
information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with Seeing 
AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not visible no 
matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone really high and 
got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not recognize a bit of text.

With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very few 
flaws at all.

In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.

Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.

So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.




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RE: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[Cristóbal]

Can’t remember the last time I used KNFBReader on my phone. Immediacy of 
scanning results is what makes me partial to SeeingAI hands down at this point. 
Even if scanning results were marginally better in KNFBReader, the fact that 
you can get feedback almost instantaneously in SeeingAI 

Would for me anyway outweigh the difference in OCR results. That and the added 
channels too. KNFBReader’s got some major catching up to do.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

 

That is not my experience at all. 

But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.

With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera to 
a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode is 
to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes the 
focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really designed 
for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.

But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.

Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update this 
year for KNFB.

Something I've asked for since it was released.

Here's hoping it finally happens.

Richard

 





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper documents. 
So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to really compare 
KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I bought it) and 
Seeing AI.

My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
country mile.

Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the basic 
information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with Seeing 
AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not visible no 
matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone really high and 
got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not recognize a bit of text.

With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very few 
flaws at all.

In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.

Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.

So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.




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Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[K. Scott Carlson]

Do you know to what degree things like coloring, greyscale, boxes and
odd fonts can affect Seeing AI's processing of documents? I suspect
with the docket sheets I just described, Seeing AI might be having
problems for that reason. like you, i've had pretty good luck with
Seeing AI when scanning normal documents, but not so much stuff like
this.

On 1/19/18, Richard Turner  wrote:
> That is not my experience at all.
> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera
> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text
> mode is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or
> changes the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't
> really designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel
> is for.
> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update
> this year for KNFB.
> Something I've asked for since it was released.
> Here's hoping it finally happens.
> Richard
>
>
>
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson
> > wrote:
>
> So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper
> documents. So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to
> really compare KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I
> bought it) and Seeing AI.
>
> My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a
> country mile.
>
> Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the
> basic information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with
> Seeing AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not
> visible no matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone
> really high and got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not
> recognize a bit of text.
>
> With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to
> orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very
> few flaws at all.
>
> In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I
> can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.
>
> Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the
> document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap
> some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.
>
> So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.
>
>
>
>
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Re: KNFB Reader v. Seeing AI

[Richard Turner]

That is not my experience at all.
But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera to 
a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode is 
to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes the 
focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really designed 
for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.
But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update this 
year for KNFB.
Something I've asked for since it was released.
Here's hoping it finally happens.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper documents. 
So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to really compare 
KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I bought it) and 
Seeing AI.

My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
country mile.

Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the basic 
information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with Seeing 
AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not visible no 
matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone really high and 
got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not recognize a bit of text.

With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very few 
flaws at all.

In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.

Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.

So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.




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Re: KNFB Reader Pricing

[Christopher Chaltain]

My understanding is the same as Karl's. I'm not sure why people have to 
jump to the conclusion that there's something going on here or that 
anyone is playing games. I usually just take it at face value that 
Google is discounting an accessibility app for no other reason then 
helping out some blind people and getting some good will or press out of 
the deal. I'm happy for the blind people who can take advantage of this 
offer, and I don't resent it if I can't myself. The NFB also lumps it's 
share of praise on Apple as well.



On 10/04/2017 11:22 AM, Karl Smith wrote:


To my knowledge the $19.95 price for the Google version of the KNFB 
reader was available because of a donation from Google. As far as I 
know the product isn’t free but does allow the user to have 25 free 
scans before purchasing the product. The reason this doesn’t happen 
with Apple is because of Apple policies and isn’t under control of the 
NFB.


Karl

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*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Mary Otten

*Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:15 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: KNFB Reader Pricing

There is definitely some sort of deal with Google and the NFB. For the 
last couple of years, Google has been a "champion" of Accessibility 
according to the NFB. I don't think Apple place those games, hence no 
price break for Apple customers.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 4, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net 
<mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:


If Im not mistaken, the developer of the KNFB Reader made some
type of deal with Google. The Google price is usually $19.99. If
you got the app Free, great!

Donna

I suggest you read the fine print.

As I understand it, you have a free trial period with Android,
then the price is the same unless you come across a sale at
some point.

HTH,

Richard


On Oct 4, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com
<mailto:lang...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi,

Well, I now have one foot in the Apple camp and one in the
Google/Android camp and have been learning to use a
Samsung Galaxy S8 with Nougat and Talkback. It’s neat to
be able to “see how the other half lives”, so to speak, as
I’ll be able to gain some perspective on both devices, the
underlying approaches and philosophies and so on and I can
then pass that information on to my students.
As I explore and play around, naturally I’m loading the S8
up with various apps and am checking out the Play Store.
 While I was there yesterday I found KNFB Reader, noticed
that it’s free for Android users, so I promptly installed
it and put it to the test. I must say, its performance was
very impressive on the Samsung.  My question is why there
is a $100 price tag on KNFB Reader in the app store versus
no charge in the Play Store. What’s the story on that?
 Thanks,
Tom

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RE: KNFB Reader Pricing

[Karl Smith]

To my knowledge the $19.95 price for the Google version of the KNFB reader was 
available because of a donation from Google. As far as I know the product isn’t 
free but does allow the user to have 25 free scans before purchasing the 
product. The reason this doesn’t happen with Apple is because of Apple policies 
and isn’t under control of the NFB.

 

Karl

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader Pricing

 

There is definitely some sort of deal with Google and the NFB. For the last 
couple of years, Google has been a "champion" of Accessibility according to the 
NFB. I don't think Apple place those games, hence no price break for Apple 
customers.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 4, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

If Im not mistaken, the developer of the KNFB Reader made some type of deal 
with Google. The Google price is usually $19.99. If you got the app Free, great!

 

Donna

 

 

I suggest you read the fine print.

As I understand it, you have a free trial period with Android, then the price 
is the same unless you come across a sale at some point.

HTH,

Richard

 


On Oct 4, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi,

Well, I now have one foot in the Apple camp and one in the Google/Android camp 
and have been learning to use a Samsung Galaxy S8 with Nougat and Talkback. 
It’s neat to be able to “see how the other half lives”, so to speak, as I’ll be 
able to gain some perspective on both devices, the underlying approaches and 
philosophies and so on and I can then pass that information on to my students.  
As I explore and play around, naturally I’m loading the S8 up with various apps 
and am checking out the Play Store.  While I was there yesterday I found KNFB 
Reader, noticed that it’s free for Android users, so I promptly installed it 
and put it to the test. I must say, its performance was very impressive on the 
Samsung.  My question is why there is a $100 price tag on KNFB Reader in the 
app store versus no charge in the Play Store. What’s the story on that?  Thanks,
Tom

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Re: KNFB Reader Pricing

[Mary Otten]

There is definitely some sort of deal with Google and the NFB. For the last 
couple of years, Google has been a "champion" of Accessibility according to the 
NFB. I don't think Apple place those games, hence no price break for Apple 
customers.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> If Im not mistaken, the developer of the KNFB Reader made some type of deal 
> with Google. The Google price is usually $19.99. If you got the app Free, 
> great!
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> I suggest you read the fine print.
>> As I understand it, you have a free trial period with Android, then the 
>> price is the same unless you come across a sale at some point.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Well, I now have one foot in the Apple camp and one in the Google/Android 
>>> camp and have been learning to use a Samsung Galaxy S8 with Nougat and 
>>> Talkback. It’s neat to be able to “see how the other half lives”, so to 
>>> speak, as I’ll be able to gain some perspective on both devices, the 
>>> underlying approaches and philosophies and so on and I can then pass that 
>>> information on to my students.  
>>> As I explore and play around, naturally I’m loading the S8 up with various 
>>> apps and am checking out the Play Store.  While I was there yesterday I 
>>> found KNFB Reader, noticed that it’s free for Android users, so I promptly 
>>> installed it and put it to the test. I must say, its performance was very 
>>> impressive on the Samsung.  My question is why there is a $100 price tag on 
>>> KNFB Reader in the app store versus no charge in the Play Store. What’s the 
>>> story on that?  Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>>  Sent from my iPhone 7
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Re: KNFB Reader Pricing

[Donna]

If Im not mistaken, the developer of the KNFB Reader made some type of deal 
with Google. The Google price is usually $19.99. If you got the app Free, great!

Donna
> 
> 
> I suggest you read the fine print.
> As I understand it, you have a free trial period with Android, then the price 
> is the same unless you come across a sale at some point.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Well, I now have one foot in the Apple camp and one in the Google/Android 
>> camp and have been learning to use a Samsung Galaxy S8 with Nougat and 
>> Talkback. It’s neat to be able to “see how the other half lives”, so to 
>> speak, as I’ll be able to gain some perspective on both devices, the 
>> underlying approaches and philosophies and so on and I can then pass that 
>> information on to my students.  
>> As I explore and play around, naturally I’m loading the S8 up with various 
>> apps and am checking out the Play Store.  While I was there yesterday I 
>> found KNFB Reader, noticed that it’s free for Android users, so I promptly 
>> installed it and put it to the test. I must say, its performance was very 
>> impressive on the Samsung.  My question is why there is a $100 price tag on 
>> KNFB Reader in the app store versus no charge in the Play Store. What’s the 
>> story on that?  Thanks,
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Re: KNFB Reader Pricing

[Richard Turner]

I suggest you read the fine print.
As I understand it, you have a free trial period with Android, then the price 
is the same unless you come across a sale at some point.
HTH,
Richard


On Oct 4, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Tom Lange 
> wrote:



Hi,

Well, I now have one foot in the Apple camp and one in the Google/Android camp 
and have been learning to use a Samsung Galaxy S8 with Nougat and Talkback. 
It’s neat to be able to “see how the other half lives”, so to speak, as I’ll be 
able to gain some perspective on both devices, the underlying approaches and 
philosophies and so on and I can then pass that information on to my students.
As I explore and play around, naturally I’m loading the S8 up with various apps 
and am checking out the Play Store.  While I was there yesterday I found KNFB 
Reader, noticed that it’s free for Android users, so I promptly installed it 
and put it to the test. I must say, its performance was very impressive on the 
Samsung.  My question is why there is a $100 price tag on KNFB Reader in the 
app store versus no charge in the Play Store. What’s the story on that?  Thanks,
Tom

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Re: KNFB reader with Iphone 8

[Chris Chaffin]

KNFB Reader can not detect handwriting.  If KNFB Reader does not detect any 
text, then it will automatically go back to the main screen where the take 
picture button is located.

Chris


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> however, when I go to the screen, it has gone back to the default screen 
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RE: KNFB reader with Iphone 8

[Richard Turner]

KNFB Reader cannot scans handwriting.

Make sure your finger isn’t over the lense or that there is enough light to get 
a picture.

Richard


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Hi: When I scan certain documents with KNFB reader Voice over says: "play", 
however, when I go to the screen, it has gone back to the default screen where 
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Richard Turner]

if you already have the Fopydo stand, you can buy the Book Reading attachment 
separately.
Richard


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> On May 13, 2017, at 4:51 AM, David Whitehead <davidmac1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello;
> 
> You can check out the following;
> There's fopydo stand for reading books;
> 
> http://fopydo.com/bookreadingaid
> 
> there's a fopydo scan for reading documents,
> 
> http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
> hope this helps.
> 
>   Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.
> 
> Hello Liz,
> 
> KNFBReader is great for reading print books, especially if you have the 
> Fopydo stand with book reading attachment. I can sit in my comfortable 
> armchair with the Fopydo on my lap and read a book using KNFBReader on my 
> iPhone SE. The book reading attachment for the Fopydo stand means that you 
> can be turning to the next double-page while listening to the pages you’ve 
> just scanned.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13 May 2017, at 11:26, Liz and LD Hope <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net> 
>> wrote:
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>> I want a program that will allow me to read documents such as mail, and I
>> want to be able to read a print book.  Is the KNFB Reader good for reading
>> books?
>> 
>> Liz Ulrich
>> and LD Hope
>> 
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RE: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[David Whitehead]

Hello;

You can check out the following;
There's fopydo stand for reading books;

http://fopydo.com/bookreadingaid

there's a fopydo scan for reading documents,

http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind
hope this helps.

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Subject: Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

Hello Liz,

KNFBReader is great for reading print books, especially if you have the Fopydo 
stand with book reading attachment. I can sit in my comfortable armchair with 
the Fopydo on my lap and read a book using KNFBReader on my iPhone SE. The book 
reading attachment for the Fopydo stand means that you can be turning to the 
next double-page while listening to the pages you’ve just scanned.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 13 May 2017, at 11:26, Liz and LD Hope <elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net> 
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> want to be able to read a print book.  Is the KNFB Reader good for reading
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> 
> Liz Ulrich
> and LD Hope
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Liz,

KNFBReader is great for reading print books, especially if you have the Fopydo 
stand with book reading attachment. I can sit in my comfortable armchair with 
the Fopydo on my lap and read a book using KNFBReader on my iPhone SE. The book 
reading attachment for the Fopydo stand means that you can be turning to the 
next double-page while listening to the pages you’ve just scanned.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 13 May 2017, at 11:26, Liz and LD Hope  
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> want to be able to read a print book.  Is the KNFB Reader good for reading
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RE: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Liz and LD Hope]

I want a program that will allow me to read documents such as mail, and I
want to be able to read a print book.  Is the KNFB Reader good for reading
books?

Liz Ulrich
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RE: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Liz and LD Hope]

Thank you for the information about the KNFB reader e-mail list.  I am
looking forward to subscribing and learning more about the KNFB reader so
that I can make an informed decision.  

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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Elizabeth Ulrich]

I just attempted to subscribe to the list, and I received a message stating 
that the form is too old and that I needed to get it again. What does this 
mean? 


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> On May 12, 2017, at 11:40 PM, David Andrews  wrote:
> 
> There is a KNFB-Reader list, where there is lots of good info.  To join go to:
> 
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/reader-users_nfbnet.org
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 02:08 PM 5/12/2017, you wrote:
> 
>> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
>> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
>> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to 
>> know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get 
>> the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there 
>> tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
>> appreciated.
>> 
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[David Andrews]

There is a KNFB-Reader list, where there is lots of good info.  To join go to:

http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/reader-users_nfbnet.org

Dave

At 02:08 PM 5/12/2017, you wrote:

Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite 
some time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I 
am able to purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this 
App, I would like to know how people find this App. Is it worth the 
investment. Also, if I get the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand 
a worthwhile accessory? Are there tutorials available for KNFB 
reader? Any and all feedback will be appreciated.



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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Richard Turner]

The second generation has square legs so they do not get out of alignment when 
you move the stand on the table as easily as with the round legs.
The cut out where you place the camera.
The microsuction tape on the top is wider and turned so it goes from that 
camera cut out toward the back so more of the phone is sitting on it so the 
phone really does not slide at all.
I was at a client's home who had just ordered it.
I wrote the creator and he said he had been working with a guy in Cleveland on 
improving the stand. He did say he may have to raise the price to $15 because 
the new legs cost more, but that he would ship for free in the United States.
Richard


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> On May 12, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Esubalew Johnston  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I have both scanning devices and K and NFB reader, what's the 
> difference between the second generation?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Liz,
>> It really depends on what kinds of things you plan to scan as to whether 
>> KNFB is worth the price.
>> It is very fast, you can add pages to a document and save it as one file, it 
>> has a batch mode so you can scan a bunch of pages and then have them all 
>> recognized at once.
>> It has a document stand mode so that after you initiate the first scan, when 
>> you move a new page into view, it can automatically detect the new page and 
>> take the next picture without you having to touch the phone.
>> If you plan to ever try scanning a book, the ScanJig is not my first choice 
>> in stands.
>> Also, if you want good portability in a stand, it is a little bulky.
>> I prefer the Fopydo Scanning stand.
>> I just saw the second generation model, and it is really nice. Also it is 
>> only $15.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth Ulrich 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
>>> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
>>> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like 
>>> to know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I 
>>> get the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are 
>>> there tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
>>> appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Esubalew Johnston]

Hi all, I have both scanning devices and K and NFB reader, what's the 
difference between the second generation?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Liz,
> It really depends on what kinds of things you plan to scan as to whether KNFB 
> is worth the price.
> It is very fast, you can add pages to a document and save it as one file, it 
> has a batch mode so you can scan a bunch of pages and then have them all 
> recognized at once.
> It has a document stand mode so that after you initiate the first scan, when 
> you move a new page into view, it can automatically detect the new page and 
> take the next picture without you having to touch the phone.
> If you plan to ever try scanning a book, the ScanJig is not my first choice 
> in stands.
> Also, if you want good portability in a stand, it is a little bulky.
> I prefer the Fopydo Scanning stand.
> I just saw the second generation model, and it is really nice. Also it is 
> only $15.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth Ulrich 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
>> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
>> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to 
>> know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get 
>> the KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there 
>> tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
>> appreciated. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Richard Turner]

Liz,
It really depends on what kinds of things you plan to scan as to whether KNFB 
is worth the price.
It is very fast, you can add pages to a document and save it as one file, it 
has a batch mode so you can scan a bunch of pages and then have them all 
recognized at once.
It has a document stand mode so that after you initiate the first scan, when 
you move a new page into view, it can automatically detect the new page and 
take the next picture without you having to touch the phone.
If you plan to ever try scanning a book, the ScanJig is not my first choice in 
stands.
Also, if you want good portability in a stand, it is a little bulky.
I prefer the Fopydo Scanning stand.
I just saw the second generation model, and it is really nice. Also it is only 
$15.
HTH,
Richard


> On May 12, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Elizabeth Ulrich 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello! I have been considering purchasing the KNFB reader for quite some 
> time, but I have not been in the position to buy the app. Now I am able to 
> purchase KNFB Reader, but before I put money in to this App, I would like to 
> know how people find this App. Is it worth the investment. Also, if I get the 
> KNFB reader is the ScanJig scan stand a worthwhile accessory? Are there 
> tutorials available for KNFB reader? Any and all feedback will be 
> appreciated. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope 
> HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
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Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

[Richard Turner]

when you scan a page with paragraph breaks, you end up with one long paragraph.
If you scan a form, you end up with one long paragraph.
Hard returns are ignored so you end up with one long paragraph.
Apparently, Office Lens for free keeps much of the formatting, as does Prizmo, 
for $9.99.
Richard


> On Apr 22, 2017, at 5:14 AM, Mike Ulrich <mulr...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I'm just curious; What is meant by KNFB's "Formatting" issue?
> What does that mean? I haven't seemed to have any problems, so I'd just like 
> to know what to look out for.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '
> 
> 
> Perhaps everyone should write supp...@knfbreader.com
> requesting that. I've been asking for that since it was released. 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2017, at 2:09 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I do wish they would address the formatting issue! now that we see other 
>> apps can do it, it would appear, there should be no problem for the KNFB 
>> reader app to follow suit.
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 21 Apr 2017, at 19:30, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
>>> - New app icon and splash screen added;
>>> - Czech user interface language added;
>>> - Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
>>> - The "volume up" button will now take a picture and the "volume down" 
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RE: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

[Mike Ulrich]

Hi all, I'm just curious; What is meant by KNFB's "Formatting" issue?
What does that mean? I haven't seemed to have any problems, so I'd just like to 
know what to look out for.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '


Perhaps everyone should write supp...@knfbreader.com
requesting that. I've been asking for that since it was released. 
Richard


> On Apr 22, 2017, at 2:09 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I do wish they would address the formatting issue! now that we see other apps 
> can do it, it would appear, there should be no problem for the KNFB reader 
> app to follow suit.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 21 Apr 2017, at 19:30, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> 
>> KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
>> - New app icon and splash screen added;
>> - Czech user interface language added;
>> - Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
>> - The "volume up" button will now take a picture and the "volume down" 
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Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

[Richard Turner]

Perhaps everyone should write supp...@knfbreader.com
requesting that. I've been asking for that since it was released. 
Richard


> On Apr 22, 2017, at 2:09 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> I do wish they would address the formatting issue! now that we see other apps 
> can do it, it would appear, there should be no problem for the KNFB reader 
> app to follow suit.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 21 Apr 2017, at 19:30, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
>> - New app icon and splash screen added;
>> - Czech user interface language added;
>> - Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
>> - The "volume up" button will now take a picture and the "volume down" 
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Re: KNFB Reader 2.7.3 '

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

I do wish they would address the formatting issue! now that we see other apps 
can do it, it would appear, there should be no problem for the KNFB reader app 
to follow suit.

Sandy

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> On 21 Apr 2017, at 19:30, Richard Turner  wrote:
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> KNFB Reader has an update. Here is the what's new info:
> - New app icon and splash screen added;
> - Czech user interface language added;
> - Fixes a crash some users experienced when taking a picture;
> - The "volume up" button will now take a picture and the "volume down" button 
> will execute field of view;
> - Fixes some minor issues with voice-over accessibility.
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RE: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Richard,
I have the KNFB app on my iPhone. I have now downloaded it to my pc. When I hit 
the scan image button the KNFB app closes and my pc goes back to the desktop. I 
emailed KNFB tech support and receive an email back saying their might be some 
issues with some scanner. Well I must be one of the lucky ones. Support said 
they would be working on an update to fix the issue.
Mr. Ed 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: KNFB
Subject: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to any 
other OCR solution on Windows!
Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but if 
KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have an 
extremely long way to go.
I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.

I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
before the scanner is ready for the next page.
KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
files, the older MS-Word format.
When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
being able to make the document editable.
With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
Now, for my pet Peeve.
The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
page has just over half a page of text. 


OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.

For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber and 
Prizmo on the iPhone.
"" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
seems to be much improved.
I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., but 
I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
Richard


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Re: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

[Richard Turner]

I also use the split pages if I am scanning from a book so the two pages are 
separated. It would be nice if KNFB Reader could add that as well. 
Richard



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there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello. Openbook has a check orientation feature. I use this feature to make 
> sure I'm inserting checks into my laser printer. This feature is one of my 
> requirements. 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to 
>> any other OCR solution on Windows!
>> Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but 
>> if KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they 
>> have an extremely long way to go.
>> I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary 
>> edition and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.
>> 
>> I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
>> As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
>> before the scanner is ready for the next page.
>> KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
>> files, the older MS-Word format.
>> When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
>> internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
>> being able to make the document editable.
>> With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
>> Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
>> Now, for my pet Peeve.
>> The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
>> The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. 
>> The page has just over half a page of text. 
>> 
>> 
>> OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.
>> 
>> For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber 
>> and Prizmo on the iPhone.
>> "" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
>> Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but 
>> Textgrabber seems to be much improved.
>> I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., 
>> but I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
>> Richard
>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. Openbook has a check orientation feature. I use this feature to make 
sure I'm inserting checks into my laser printer. This feature is one of my 
requirements. 

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to 
> any other OCR solution on Windows!
> Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but 
> if KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have 
> an extremely long way to go.
> I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
> and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.
> 
> I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
> As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
> before the scanner is ready for the next page.
> KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
> files, the older MS-Word format.
> When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
> internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
> being able to make the document editable.
> With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
> Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
> Now, for my pet Peeve.
> The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
> The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
> page has just over half a page of text. 
> 
> 
> OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.
> 
> For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber 
> and Prizmo on the iPhone.
> "" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
> Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
> seems to be much improved.
> I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., 
> but I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
> Richard
> 
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Re: KNFB reader

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi thank you.  I will try this as soon as I can get some time to work with 
this.  I greatly appreciate you and Sieghard’s help.  Everybody here is 
great!!.  Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: KNFB reader

Andrew,
Are you trying to do more than one page at a time?
If so, try turning on the Document Stand profile and turning on batch mode. You 
will have to double tap on take picture for the first page, then after that as 
you move one page away, and place another page on the stand, and nothing moves 
for a few seconds, your phone will beep, and it will take the next picture. 
Repeat those steps until you are done, then double tap the done button I think 
it is called.
If you are doing one page only, try Sieghard's method with the profile set to 
automatic.I think the process of starting with the phone flat on the document 
and raising it up allows the autofocus of the camera to know when the page is 
focused, where having it on the stand, doesn't work.
HTH,
Richard






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On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:


  Sorry, I have no idea then why this doesn’t work for you, you might want to 
ask their support, the only thing I do is to change the profile.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:10 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: KNFB reader

   

  I have been playing with settings of all kinds with the KNFB reader.  I am 
using the latest IOS with the 6s but, I, for the Love of me cannot get the 
automatic feature to work.  I have the phone on the stand, the lense cover is 
not covered and I am certain that there is text visibleThe option is 
changed from manual to automatic but, nothing happens.  I have no problem with 
tapping on take picture.  I know this works but, I just don’t know what else to 
try.  Is there something possible in accessibility in General that needs to be 
turned on?  Thank you in advance if you can take the time to suggest a 
solution.  Andy and Shubert

  Andrew J. LaPointe
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  President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Re: KNFB reader

[Richard Turner]

Andrew,
Are you trying to do more than one page at a time?
If so, try turning on the Document Stand profile and turning on batch mode. You 
will have to double tap on take picture for the first page, then after that as 
you move one page away, and place another page on the stand, and nothing moves 
for a few seconds, your phone will beep, and it will take the next picture. 
Repeat those steps until you are done, then double tap the done button I think 
it is called.
If you are doing one page only, try Sieghard's method with the profile set to 
automatic.I think the process of starting with the phone flat on the document 
and raising it up allows the autofocus of the camera to know when the page is 
focused, where having it on the stand, doesn't work.
HTH,
Richard




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(Sent from my iPod 6)
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- Satsuki Shibuya




On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Sorry, I have no idea then why this doesn't work for you, you might want to ask 
their support, the only thing I do is to change the profile.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB reader

I have been playing with settings of all kinds with the KNFB reader.  I am 
using the latest IOS with the 6s but, I, for the Love of me cannot get the 
automatic feature to work.  I have the phone on the stand, the lense cover is 
not covered and I am certain that there is text visibleThe option is 
changed from manual to automatic but, nothing happens.  I have no problem with 
tapping on take picture.  I know this works but, I just don't know what else to 
try.  Is there something possible in accessibility in General that needs to be 
turned on?  Thank you in advance if you can take the time to suggest a 
solution.  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
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President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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RE: KNFB reader

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, I have no idea then why this doesn’t work for you, you might want to ask 
their support, the only thing I do is to change the profile.

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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB reader

I have been playing with settings of all kinds with the KNFB reader.  I am 
using the latest IOS with the 6s but, I, for the Love of me cannot get the 
automatic feature to work.  I have the phone on the stand, the lense cover is 
not covered and I am certain that there is text visibleThe option is 
changed from manual to automatic but, nothing happens.  I have no problem with 
tapping on take picture.  I know this works but, I just don’t know what else to 
try.  Is there something possible in accessibility in General that needs to be 
turned on?  Thank you in advance if you can take the time to suggest a 
solution.  Andy and Shubert
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RE: KNFB Reader

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not sure Andrew, it usually works for me. Once I lift up my phone off the paper 
it is on and which covers the camera I lift it straight up about a foot or so 
and Voiceover then says “Text detected, hold still” and then the picture is 
taken.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

Hi Sieghard, thank you for the reply.  Yes, I did have my finger on the 
lense cover, that is how I found out that it announced.  That didn’t happen 
before but, I like it.  Now, as far as the Profile with the automatic picture 
taking, I tried that but, I couldn’t seem to get the camera to auto take a 
picture.  Is there something I could be doing incorrectly?   I noticed that 
batch mode is off.  Would that be part of the problem?  Thanks so much for your 
wisdom and your valuable time.  Andy and Shubert

From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

I use KNFB Reader with the profile that automatically takes a picture when it 
sees text. I always put my iPhone down on the page I want to scan and start 
KNFB Reader, then it will say “Lens covered” because it is covered. Maybe yours 
was too, maybe you had your finger over it accidently?

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: KNFB Reader

Hi, the other day I noticed that the KNFB reader announced that the lense cover 
was covered.  I don’t know how that happened but, now, after rebooting the App, 
it stopped.  Also, the voice changedI know how to change that but, where do 
you have other information announced such as the lenxe cover being covered?  
Thank you.  Andy and Shubert
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Re: KNFB Reader

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi Sieghard, thank you for the reply.  Yes, I did have my finger on the 
lense cover, that is how I found out that it announced.  That didn’t happen 
before but, I like it.  Now, as far as the Profile with the automatic picture 
taking, I tried that but, I couldn’t seem to get the camera to auto take a 
picture.  Is there something I could be doing incorrectly?   I noticed that 
batch mode is off.  Would that be part of the problem?  Thanks so much for your 
wisdom and your valuable time.  Andy and Shubert

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

I use KNFB Reader with the profile that automatically takes a picture when it 
sees text. I always put my iPhone down on the page I want to scan and start 
KNFB Reader, then it will say “Lens covered” because it is covered. Maybe yours 
was too, maybe you had your finger over it accidently?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB Reader

 

Hi, the other day I noticed that the KNFB reader announced that the lense cover 
was covered.  I don’t know how that happened but, now, after rebooting the App, 
it stopped.  Also, the voice changedI know how to change that but, where do 
you have other information announced such as the lenxe cover being covered?  
Thank you.  Andy and Shubert

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President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Salem, MA. 01970
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RE: KNFB Reader

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I use KNFB Reader with the profile that automatically takes a picture when it 
sees text. I always put my iPhone down on the page I want to scan and start 
KNFB Reader, then it will say “Lens covered” because it is covered. Maybe yours 
was too, maybe you had your finger over it accidently?

Regards,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB Reader

Hi, the other day I noticed that the KNFB reader announced that the lense cover 
was covered.  I don’t know how that happened but, now, after rebooting the App, 
it stopped.  Also, the voice changedI know how to change that but, where do 
you have other information announced such as the lenxe cover being covered?  
Thank you.  Andy and Shubert
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RE: KNFB Reader and Gift Cards

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If KNFB Reader can't read it then I doubt anything else can. You may have to 
use Be My Eyes or that other app (can't remember the name right now) which 
connects you with a real person and then show then the gift card via your 
phone's camera or, if you have friends or family members with iPhones just call 
them via Facetime and ask them to take a look. I assume you are trying to get 
the gift card number? iTunes gift cards do have a barcode and can be scanned 
with the camera, not sure if others do, but that could be an option if the 
company where the gift card is from offers the option to redeem the card in an 
app or online using the camera.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:02 AM
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Subject: KNFB Reader and Gift Cards

All,

Does anyone know if there's a way to get the KNFB Reader to read gift cards to 
stores? I've tried it a couple of times without a lot of luck. If it can't, is 
there anything that can like the various money reader apps?

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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Chip Orange]

Donald,

Yes, it is quite cool; did you do anything in particular "to get it working?"

Thanks,

Chip



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donald Raikes
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

Just tried reading a laptop screen and it worked pretty well! this app
is quite cool now that I got it working :-)

On 12/26/16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> i would not be surprised if it couldn't do more than 50 pages at a time.
> That is a lot of processing.
> I have not tried anything that long.
> Richard
>
>
> A guy walks into a bar. He says, "Ouch
>
> On Dec 24, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How many pages can be scanned with knfb in bache mode? I heard it can
>> only 50 pages.
>>
>>> On 12/25/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from
>>> someone else.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip,
>>>
>>> Have you had any luck with Braigo?
>>>
>>> I couldn’t get it to work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very odd.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Chip Orange
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to
>>> mention
>>> Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is
>>> quite
>>> a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you
>>> get
>>> KNFB.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of
>>> KNFB
>>> Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has
>>> benefited you'll etc?
>>>
>>> El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:
>>>
>>> The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned
>>> with
>>> my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started
>>> to
>>> pop up.
>>>
>>> Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like
>>> food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes,
>>> you
>>> want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it
>>> an
>>> exercise in frustration.
>>>
>>> The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about
>>> is
>>> to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
>>> To: 'ViPone list'
>>> Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
>>> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it
>>> into
>>> one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend
>>> around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple
>>> hundred
>>> on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you 

Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Donald Raikes]

Just tried reading a laptop screen and it worked pretty well! this app
is quite cool now that I got it working :-)

On 12/26/16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> i would not be surprised if it couldn't do more than 50 pages at a time.
> That is a lot of processing.
> I have not tried anything that long.
> Richard
>
>
> A guy walks into a bar. He says, "Ouch
>
> On Dec 24, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How many pages can be scanned with knfb in bache mode? I heard it can
>> only 50 pages.
>>
>>> On 12/25/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from
>>> someone else.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip,
>>>
>>> Have you had any luck with Braigo?
>>>
>>> I couldn’t get it to work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very odd.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Chip Orange
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to
>>> mention
>>> Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is
>>> quite
>>> a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you
>>> get
>>> KNFB.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of
>>> KNFB
>>> Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has
>>> benefited you'll etc?
>>>
>>> El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:
>>>
>>> The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned
>>> with
>>> my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started
>>> to
>>> pop up.
>>>
>>> Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like
>>> food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes,
>>> you
>>> want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it
>>> an
>>> exercise in frustration.
>>>
>>> The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about
>>> is
>>> to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
>>> To: 'ViPone list'
>>> Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
>>> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it
>>> into
>>> one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend
>>> around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple
>>> hundred
>>> on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber
>>> or
>>> even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to
>>> computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for
>>&g

Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Richard Turner]

i would not be surprised if it couldn't do more than 50 pages at a time. That 
is a lot of processing.
I have not tried anything that long.
Richard


A guy walks into a bar. He says, "Ouch

On Dec 24, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How many pages can be scanned with knfb in bache mode? I heard it can
> only 50 pages.
> 
>> On 12/25/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from
>> someone else.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chip,
>> 
>> Have you had any luck with Braigo?
>> 
>> I couldn’t get it to work.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Very odd.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention
>> Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite
>> a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get
>> KNFB.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB
>> Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has
>> benefited you'll etc?
>> 
>> El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:
>> 
>> The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with
>> my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to
>> pop up.
>> 
>> Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like
>> food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you
>> want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an
>> exercise in frustration.
>> 
>> The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is
>> to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
>> To: 'ViPone list'
>> Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
>> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into
>> one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend
>> around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred
>> on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or
>> even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to
>> computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for
>> paragraphs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

How many pages can be scanned with knfb in bache mode? I heard it can
only 50 pages.

On 12/25/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from
> someone else.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>
>
>
> Chip,
>
> Have you had any luck with Braigo?
>
> I couldn’t get it to work.
>
>
>
> Very odd.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>
>
>
> Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention
> Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite
> a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get
> KNFB.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>
>
>
> It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB
> Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has
> benefited you'll etc?
>
> El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:
>
> The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with
> my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to
> pop up.
>
> Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like
> food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you
> want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an
> exercise in frustration.
>
> The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is
> to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
> To: 'ViPone list'
> Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money
>
>
>
> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into
> one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend
> around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred
> on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>
>
>
> If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or
> even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.
>
>
>
> In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to
> computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for
> paragraphs.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> “A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”
>
>
>
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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Chip Orange]

I have tried Richard, as I own KNFB; I just got a recommendation from someone 
else.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

Chip,

Have you had any luck with Braigo?

I couldn’t get it to work.

 

Very odd.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention 
Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite a 
lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get KNFB.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB 
Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has benefited 
you'll etc?

El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió: 

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up. 

Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration. 

The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox. 

  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money 

  

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner. 

  

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money. 

  

In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs. 

  

Richard 

  

“A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!” 

  

  

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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Richard Turner]

Chip,
Have you had any luck with Braigo?
I couldn’t get it to work.

Very odd.

Richard


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Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention 
Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite a 
lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get KNFB.

Chip


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB 
Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has benefited 
you'll etc?

El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up.

Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration.

The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money



To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner.



If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.



In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs.



Richard



“A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”





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Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Yes esepcially here in Mexico it's $1700 Mexican! So yes thanks for 
the alternatives! I'll try especially Braigo out, hoping it works with 
Spanish materials.


El 24/12/2016 02:09 p.m., Chip Orange escribió:


Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to 
mention Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand 
$100 is quite a lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for 
you until you get KNFB.


Chip

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Gerardo Corripio

*Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of 
KNFB Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it 
has benefited you'll etc?


El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  
mentioned with my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update 
where they started to pop up.


Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick 
like  food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. 
Sometimes, you want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and 
crashing makes it  an exercise in frustration.


The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB 
about  is to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
*To:* 'ViPone list'
*Subject:* KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text 
recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save 
it into one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have 
to spend around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a 
couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.


If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, 
TextGrabber or even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less 
money.


In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to 
computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for 
paragraphs.


Richard

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Richard mentioned alternatives such as Prizmo, but I also want to mention 
Braigo (which is free) as one more alternative.  I understand $100 is quite a 
lot, so I hope one of these alternatives will work for you until you get KNFB.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of KNFB 
Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it has benefited 
you'll etc?

El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió: 

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up. 

Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration. 

The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox. 

  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money 

  

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner. 

  

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money. 

  

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Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Gerardo Corripio]

 It'd be a blessing if I could tonight be surprised with my own copy of 
KNFB Reader for my iPhone! Wow! With all you're saying of how much it 
has benefited you'll etc?


El 24/12/2016 12:30 p.m., Cristóbal escribió:


The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  
mentioned with my old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update 
where they started to pop up.


Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick 
like  food packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. 
Sometimes, you want convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and 
crashing makes it  an exercise in frustration.


The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB 
about  is to be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
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*Subject:* KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text 
recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save 
it into one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have 
to spend around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a 
couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.


If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, 
TextGrabber or even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less 
money.


In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to 
computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for 
paragraphs.


Richard

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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I’m sure if enough people suggest support for Google Drive andmaybe OneDrive 
KNFB may implement it in a future version.
Interestingly enough I don’t ever recall KNFB kicking me out except I think 
when the iOS 10 beta first came out and KNFB didn’t work at all, ever since the 
official update came out which supported iOS 10 in September I have no issues 
whatsoever.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up.
Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration.
The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner.

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.

In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs.

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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Richard Turner]

What would be even better, at leat for those having trouble, is if it would 
send crash reports to the developers.
I’ve not had any of those issues on a iPhone 5S, 6, 6S or iPod Touch 6th gen.  
But for those having these issues, some way for it to send crash reports could 
help them identify what is going on.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up.
Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration.
The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner.

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.

In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs.

Richard

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RE: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Cristóbal]

The thing  is, I don’t even recall so many issues like these  mentioned with my 
old 5S. Who knows, maybe it  was  a recent update where they started to pop up. 

Often, if  I want  to scan a fax or letter or even something quick like  food 
packaging, this  is where you  notice all the issues. Sometimes, you want 
convenience and speed, but with the bouncing  and crashing makes it  an 
exercise in frustration.

The onething  I  wish they would include  and  I’ve written KNFB about  is to 
be  able  to back up to  Google  Drive. Not just  DropBox.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 9:25 AM
To: 'ViPone list'
Subject: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

 

To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text recognition, 
the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it into one file, with 
very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to spend around $1000 for an 
OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple hundred on a Mac,  plus the 
cost of a scanner.

 

If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber or 
even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.

 

In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to computer 
scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for paragraphs.

 

Richard

 

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Re: KNFB Reader, why I think it is worth the money

[Devin Prater]

I wonder if it can scan comic books well?

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 11:25 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> To get anything close to the power of KNFB Reader for quick text
> recognition, the ability to scan many pages with batch mode and save it
> into one file, with very few taps and good accuracy; you would have to
> spend around $1000 for an OCR program on a Windows computer, and a couple
> hundred on a Mac,  plus the cost of a scanner.
>
>
>
> If you do not want or need all that in one app, then Prizmo, TextGrabber
> or even now iDentifi can do a very good job for a lot less money.
>
>
>
> In my opinion, the biggest draw back with KNFB Reader as compared to
> computer scanning programs is that it does not retain formatting for
> paragraphs.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> “A guy walks into a bar and says “ouch!”
>
>
>
>
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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Wayne Merritt]

For those that also missed out on the sale, the app is usually
discounted about 25 percent around Christmas. I don't use it often,
but I don't regret the purchase either. The ability to read print
independently is a good thing to have.

Wayne

On 11/30/16, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about KNFB Reader on the Go.
> I certainly learned some things that make it very appealing.
> However, as Carol noted, the price went back up, so I think I’ll pass on it
> for now, at least until another sale comes around.
> Evan
>
> From: Carol Forrester
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go
>
> Hi, I've only just got it myself but be careful because the price will go up
> after today, Carol
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 29 Nov 2016, at 02:21, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>
>   Hey Guys,
>   I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for outside
> of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there anything else? We
> were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery store with reading
> prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought that might be a
> problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have using the app away
> from home?
>   From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but I’d
> like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on my
> Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I can
> come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well then, I
> could probably get one.
>   Thanks much.
>   Evan
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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Evan Reese]

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about KNFB Reader on the Go. I 
certainly learned some things that make it very appealing.
However, as Carol noted, the price went back up, so I think I’ll pass on it for 
now, at least until another sale comes around.
Evan

From: Carol Forrester 
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

Hi, I've only just got it myself but be careful because the price will go up 
after today, Carol

Sent from my iPhone

On 29 Nov 2016, at 02:21, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:


  Hey Guys,
  I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan things 
here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for outside of the 
home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there anything else? We were 
wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery store with reading prices. Those 
tags are not flat though and we thought that might be a problem. What kinds of 
experiences do any of you have using the app away from home?
  From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but I’d 
like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on my 
Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I can come 
up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well then, I could 
probably get one.
  Thanks much.
  Evan
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RE: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Karl Smith]

I have used it for this purpose more than once and it has helped me get out of 
a jam. It's not perfect as there is usually more on the screen than you might 
be aware of as a screen reader user but it does get the job done.

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Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 7:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

Computer screens, really? Does that mean when my laptop is not talking I could 
use KNFB Reader to read the screen? If so, that is a major point in its favor.
Evan

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From: Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop signs, 
computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed materials I may 
need to read while out and about. It's definitely not worth the price, but if 
you have the money to spend it's a great tool to have and the most accurate and 
accessible OCR app for iOS.

On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan 
> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for 
> outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there 
> anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery 
> store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we 
> thought that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of 
> you have using the app away from home?
> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but 
> I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it 
> on my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but 
> if I can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from 
> home, well then, I could probably get one.
> Thanks much.
> Evan
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RE: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Tom Rash]

I wouldn't say it is not worth the price.  When the KNFB READER first came out, 
I thought it was a very high price.  After I bought it, I don't regret it at 
all.  It is well worth the price when you have to have that something read.  No 
booting up a computer; no putting the page in a scanner; no big production, 
just lift and snap the picture.  
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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 6:27 PM
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Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop
signs, computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed
materials I may need to read while out and about. It's definitely not
worth the price, but if you have the money to spend it's a great tool to
have and the most accurate and accessible OCR app for iOS.

On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for
> outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there
> anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery
> store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought
> that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have
> using the app away from home?
> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but
> I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on
> my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I
> can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well
> then, I could probably get one.
> Thanks much.
> Evan
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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Carol Forrester]

Hi, I've only just got it myself but be careful because the price will go up 
after today, Carol

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> On 29 Nov 2016, at 02:21, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Hey Guys,
> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan things 
> here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for outside of the 
> home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there anything else? We were 
> wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery store with reading prices. 
> Those tags are not flat though and we thought that might be a problem. What 
> kinds of experiences do any of you have using the app away from home?
> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but I’d 
> like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on my 
> Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I can 
> come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well then, I 
> could probably get one.
> Thanks much.
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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Shaf Patel]

Because KNFB Reader does not read bottles, packets etc very well, which
isn't surprising due to the shape of the product. You're better off
using TapTapSee to identify products. You'll usually be getting sighted
assistance at the store anyway.

On 11/29/2016 3:42 AM, Richard wrote:
> Why can't you use it while shopping?
> 
> Rick
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shaf Patel" <shafpa...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go
> 
> 
> You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop
> signs, computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed
> materials I may need to read while out and about. It's definitely not
> worth the price, but if you have the money to spend it's a great tool to
> have and the most accurate and accessible OCR app for iOS.
> 
> On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
>> Hey Guys,
>> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
>> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for
>> outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there
>> anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery
>> store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought
>> that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have
>> using the app away from home?
>> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but
>> I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on
>> my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I
>> can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well
>> then, I could probably get one.
>> Thanks much.
>> Evan
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RE: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Larry Lumpkin]

I’ve done the same thing.  The results weren’t perfect especially computer 
screens but it has saved us from eating hamburger instead of steak, smile.

 

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

 

 

Many times I have used KNFB Reader to read my computer screen to at least 
determine if it is an error, or if it is just taking forever to boot up, etc.

I've found it very useful.

If I'm in a hotel, I've read shampoo, coffee to know if it is decaffeinated or 
not, etc.

Handouts at a meeting.

Richard

 

 

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On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com 
<mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com> > wrote:

Computer screens, really? Does that mean when my laptop is not talking I could 
use KNFB Reader to read the screen? If so, that is a major point in its favor.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop
signs, computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed
materials I may need to read while out and about. It's definitely not
worth the price, but if you have the money to spend it's a great tool to
have and the most accurate and accessible OCR app for iOS.

On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:



Hey Guys,

I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan

things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for

outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there

anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery

store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought

that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have

using the app away from home?

>From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but

I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on

my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I

can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well

then, I could probably get one.

Thanks much.

Evan

 

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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

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Why can't you use it while shopping?

Rick
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From: "Shaf Patel" <shafpa...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go


You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop
signs, computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed
materials I may need to read while out and about. It's definitely not
worth the price, but if you have the money to spend it's a great tool to
have and the most accurate and accessible OCR app for iOS.

On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for
> outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there
> anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery
> store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought
> that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have
> using the app away from home?
> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but
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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Richard Turner]

Many times I have used KNFB Reader to read my computer screen to at least 
determine if it is an error, or if it is just taking forever to boot up, etc.
I've found it very useful.
If I'm in a hotel, I've read shampoo, coffee to know if it is decaffeinated or 
not, etc.
Handouts at a meeting.
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On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:31 PM, Evan Reese 
<ment...@dslextreme.com<mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:

Computer screens, really? Does that mean when my laptop is not talking I could 
use KNFB Reader to read the screen? If so, that is a major point in its favor.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop
signs, computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed
materials I may need to read while out and about. It's definitely not
worth the price, but if you have the money to spend it's a great tool to
have and the most accurate and accessible OCR app for iOS.

On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
Hey Guys,
I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for
outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there
anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery
store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought
that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have
using the app away from home?
>From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but
I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on
my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I
can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well
then, I could probably get one.
Thanks much.
Evan

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RE: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Evan,

Remember this is a one-time purchase, you are not going to have to pay for 
updates and so on. I don't agree with Shaf's opinion that it's "definitely not 
worth the price". I don't need to use it that much because I usually have 
sighted staff around who can read things to me, but every single time I do use 
it to quickly read something or even just identify a piece of paper it is worth 
it to me. I know you said you have a desktop scanning solution, but I think you 
will find that very often it is faster and just as accurate to use KNFB Reader 
to read a piece of mail than it is to put it on the scanner, fire up your 
Kurzweil 1000 and read it that way. OK, maybe I should add here that you need a 
bit of practice with respect to holding your I Phone at the correct distance 
and to hold it still. I can take free-hand scans very quickly and reliably 
whereas a few others on the list have a lot of trouble with that. If you look 
for some 20% discounted gift cards and then are able to pick it up on sale for 
something like what it was now which I think was $65 in the States you can 
potentially get this app for as little as $52. Considering what Kurzweil 1000 
or Openbook costs this is a joke and well worth every penny.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 6:52 PM
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Subject: RE: KNFB Reader on the Go

It's not really very reliable but it will work to some extent.


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Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

Computer screens, really? Does that mean when my laptop is not talking I could 
use KNFB Reader to read the screen? If so, that is a major point in its favor.
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop signs, 
computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed materials I may 
need to read while out and about. It's definitely not worth the price, but if 
you have the money to spend it's a great tool to have and the most accurate and 
accessible OCR app for iOS.

On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan 
> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for 
> outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there 
> anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery 
> store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we 
> thought that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of 
> you have using the app away from home?
> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but 
> I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it 
> on my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but 
> if I can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from 
> home, well then, I could probably get one.
> Thanks much.
> Evan
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RE: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Larry Lumpkin]

It's not really very reliable but it will work to some extent.


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Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

Computer screens, really? Does that mean when my laptop is not talking I could 
use KNFB Reader to read the screen? If so, that is a major point in its favor.
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop signs, 
computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed materials I may 
need to read while out and about. It's definitely not worth the price, but if 
you have the money to spend it's a great tool to have and the most accurate and 
accessible OCR app for iOS.

On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan 
> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for 
> outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there 
> anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery 
> store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we 
> thought that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of 
> you have using the app away from home?
> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but 
> I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it 
> on my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but 
> if I can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from 
> home, well then, I could probably get one.
> Thanks much.
> Evan
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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

[Evan Reese]

Computer screens, really? Does that mean when my laptop is not talking I 
could use KNFB Reader to read the screen? If so, that is a major point in 
its favor.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Shaf Patel

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop
signs, computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed
materials I may need to read while out and about. It's definitely not
worth the price, but if you have the money to spend it's a great tool to
have and the most accurate and accessible OCR app for iOS.

On 11/29/2016 2:21 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

Hey Guys,
I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for
outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there
anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery
store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought
that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have
using the app away from home?
From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but
I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on
my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I
can come up with enough useful things to do with it away from home, well
then, I could probably get one.
Thanks much.
Evan

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Re: KNFB Reader on the Go

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You can't use it while shopping. I use it for menus, books, bus stop
signs, computer screens when troubleshooting and..any other printed
materials I may need to read while out and about. It's definitely not
worth the price, but if you have the money to spend it's a great tool to
have and the most accurate and accessible OCR app for iOS.

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> Hey Guys,
> I have an iPad Mini 4, and while I do have a scanner and K1000 to scan
> things here, I’m wondering what any of you use your KNFB Reader for
> outside of the home. I’m aware of restaurant menus, but is there
> anything else? We were wondering if perhaps it can help in a grocery
> store with reading prices. Those tags are not flat though and we thought
> that might be a problem. What kinds of experiences do any of you have
> using the app away from home?
> From everything I’ve heard about it, I think it’s a very cool app, but
> I’d like to be able to justify the cost a bit more before putting it on
> my Christmas list. It’s hard to do that for stuff here at home, but if I
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> then, I could probably get one.
> Thanks much.
> Evan
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Re: KNFB Reader Question

[Shaf Patel]

No. KNFBReader is more designed to scan using the camera. I attempted to
scan a 51 page PDF (it was a scanned image) and not everything got
scanned. However, I used a desktop app with fantastic results.

On 11/1/2016 11:12 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
> If I receive a scan of a PDF where the scanner didn't correctly
> paginate, is there a way to tell this to KNFB Reaer? Example: someone
> scans me a 50-page document, but for whatever reason when the scan was
> made into a pdf the facing pages weren't broken correctly so the PDF
> shows as 25 pages. In Kurzweil 1000 for the PC you can tell it this
> and it fixes the problem.
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Re: KNFB Reader Question

[Richard Turner]

No. KNFB Reader isn't that fancy.
If the original file is 25 pages, that is what you will get.
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Nov 1, 2016, at 4:12 PM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

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paginate, is there a way to tell this to KNFB Reaer? Example: someone
scans me a 50-page document, but for whatever reason when the scan was
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RE: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I had a 6S and now I have a 6S Plus and I guess unless somebody has access to 
all four devices (6S/6S Plus and 7/7 Plus) and did a very objective test with a 
variety of material in the same lighting conditions it is probably impossible 
to say if there is a significant difference. Yes, the camera on the 7 and 7 
Plus are improved over the 6S and 6S Plus and the 6S does not have optical 
image stabilization, but I have a very steady hand and a good sense of holding 
the phone straight and in the correct height and I've been getting great 
results with both the 6S and 6S Plus. I've never been able to notice much of a 
difference between these two phones even though, as I said, the 6S Plus does 
have the optical image stabilization. As for speed the 6S Plus starts reading 
very quickly, but of course one would expect this to be even a bit faster with 
the newer phones, but is it faster by half a second, a second, 2 seconds? Even 
if it is 2 or 3 seconds which it probably is not then who really cares. In 
conclusion I would say that how well you learn to use it will make much more of 
a difference. There are a few people on the list who report they just can't get 
good results and I would hazard a guess that somebody who has a problem with it 
will get worse results with a 7 Plus than somebody who is good at it would with 
a 5S or even an iPhone 5.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably accurate and 
lightning fast.
I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am sure happy 
with the results from the 7 plus.

On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning 
> packages to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 
> 7 Plus, I don't know.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Paul Ferrara <paul.ferr...@twc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader 
>> and other similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
>> Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily 
>> dependent on the phone operator and not the camera?
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>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

[Evan Reese]

Thanks. That's pretty amazing, considering how huge the Kurzweil Reading 
Machine was when I was at university in the early 1990s.

Evan

-Original Message- 
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Hi,

KNFB Reader processes the images on your device, so you don't need an 
Internet connection to use it.


Best,
Anna




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I have an iPad Mini. Do I need an Internet connection to run that, or does 
it do the OCR without it?

Evan

-Original Message- From: Jim Fettgather
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:17 PM
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Subject: Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably
accurate and lightning fast.
I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am
sure happy with the results from the 7 plus.

On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:

Hi Paul,

I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning 
packages

to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I
don't know.

Best,
Anna




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Thanks.

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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

KNFB Reader processes the images on your device, so you don't need an Internet 
connection to use it.

Best,
Anna



> On Oct 27, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> I have an iPad Mini. Do I need an Internet connection to run that, or does it 
> do the OCR without it?
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus
> 
> On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably
> accurate and lightning fast.
> I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am
> sure happy with the results from the 7 plus.
> 
> On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning packages
>> to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I
>> don't know.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Paul Ferrara <paul.ferr...@twc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader and
>>> other similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
>>> Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily dependent
>>> on the phone operator and not the camera?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

[Evan Reese]

I have an iPad Mini. Do I need an Internet connection to run that, or does 
it do the OCR without it?

Evan

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably
accurate and lightning fast.
I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am
sure happy with the results from the 7 plus.

On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:

Hi Paul,

I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning 
packages

to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I
don't know.

Best,
Anna




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Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader and
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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

[Jim Fettgather]

On the other hand, I have a 7 plus, and the results are remarkably
accurate and lightning fast.
I do not have access to an iPhone 7 with which to compare, but I am
sure happy with the results from the 7 plus.

On 10/27/16, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning packages
> to see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I
> don't know.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
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>> Does anyone think there is a noticeable difference with KNFB Reader and
>> other similar apps with using a 7 Plus as opposed to a 7?
>> Should I expect better results, or is it still extraordinarily dependent
>> on the phone operator and not the camera?
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Re: KNFB reader with the 7 Plus

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Paul,

I have a 7, and I have had great results doing things like scanning packages to 
see who they're from. Whether it would be even better on a 7 Plus, I don't know.

Best,
Anna



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Re: KNFB Reader and iOS 10

[Richard Turner]

If your mute switch is down, that prevents the sounds.
I'm getting all the normal sounds.
There may also be a setting in the app for sounds.
Glad the reinstall worked.
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:19 AM, rajmund 
> wrote:

Hi Kelby,
If you act quick enough, you can downgrade.  Here are some rough instructions 
as to how to do it:
1) Download an IPSW of 9.3.5.  2) Open iTunes.  3) Go update this iPhone.  4) 
Instead of pressing enter, hold down the shift key.  While holding shift, press 
enter.  Now, let go of enter, and, only once you've let go of enter, let go of 
shift, too.  Now, you will be in a standard browse for file dialog on windows.  
So, navigate to your IPSW, and press enter.  If Apple didn't already stop 
assigning them, it will revert you to IOS9.3.5, losing everything, but I 
presume that you have an iCloud backup, so you can just restore it.  If you 
want a hand off list, should you decide to do it, feel free to reach out.  
Again, just a simple idea.  And, no clues about Macs.

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From: kelby carlson 
To: viphone 
Date sent: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 08:55:15 -0400
Subject: KNFB Reader and iOS 10

I am really regretting downloading this upgrade now, as my KNFB reader
has become inoperable.  It will not let me recognize out of a document
window after I have taken a picture, so i can't take consecutive
pictures; I have to close the app to take another one.

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re: KNFB Reader and iOS 10

[rajmund]

Hi Kelby,
If you act quick enough, you can downgrade.  Here are some rough 
instructions as to how to do it:
1) Download an IPSW of 9.3.5.  2) Open iTunes.  3) Go update this 
iPhone.  4) Instead of pressing enter, hold down the shift key.  
While holding shift, press enter.  Now, let go of enter, and, 
only once you've let go of enter, let go of shift, too.  Now, you 
will be in a standard browse for file dialog on windows.  So, 
navigate to your IPSW, and press enter.  If Apple didn't already 
stop assigning them, it will revert you to IOS9.3.5, losing 
everything, but I presume that you have an iCloud backup, so you 
can just restore it.  If you want a hand off list, should you 
decide to do it, feel free to reach out.  Again, just a simple 
idea.  And, no clues about Macs.


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- Original Message -
From: kelby carlson 

Re: KNFB Reader and iOS 10

[kelby carlson]

Reinstalling it fixed everything. The one thing I can't figure out now is why 
it isn't making the picture taking sound and other sounds.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I'd make sure the receipt was on a dark background and double check if the 
> numbers it translates are correct.
> But, you could also send them the image file associated with that document I 
> think.
> Or, just use the camera and take a picture of the receipt and send it to 
> them, assuming they are sighted.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kelby carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader and iOS 10
> 
> A related question: Is there a particular configuration that is best
> for scanning receipts? I need to take a scan of one and send it to
> someone else.
> 
>> On 9/14/16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I had a similar problem even after selecting add page to document.
>> I deleted the app and reinstalled it and it is now working correctly.
>> If I choose batch mode, I can take several pages in a row then process them.
>> Or, add a page to a document using manual picture and it works.
>> 
>> If that doesn't work for you, then I'd also write directly to support.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 5:55 AM, kelby carlson
>> <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am really regretting downloading this upgrade now, as my KNFB reader
>> has become inoperable. It will not let me recognize out of a document
>> window after I have taken a picture, so i can't take consecutive
>> pictures; I have to close the app to take another one.
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RE: KNFB Reader and iOS 10

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
I'd make sure the receipt was on a dark background and double check if the 
numbers it translates are correct.
But, you could also send them the image file associated with that document I 
think.
Or, just use the camera and take a picture of the receipt and send it to them, 
assuming they are sighted.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kelby carlson
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader and iOS 10

A related question: Is there a particular configuration that is best
for scanning receipts? I need to take a scan of one and send it to
someone else.

On 9/14/16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> I had a similar problem even after selecting add page to document.
> I deleted the app and reinstalled it and it is now working correctly.
> If I choose batch mode, I can take several pages in a row then process them.
> Or, add a page to a document using manual picture and it works.
>
> If that doesn't work for you, then I'd also write directly to support.
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 5:55 AM, kelby carlson
> <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I am really regretting downloading this upgrade now, as my KNFB reader
> has become inoperable. It will not let me recognize out of a document
> window after I have taken a picture, so i can't take consecutive
> pictures; I have to close the app to take another one.
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Re: KNFB Reader and iOS 10

[kelby carlson]

A related question: Is there a particular configuration that is best
for scanning receipts? I need to take a scan of one and send it to
someone else.

On 9/14/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> I had a similar problem even after selecting add page to document.
> I deleted the app and reinstalled it and it is now working correctly.
> If I choose batch mode, I can take several pages in a row then process them.
> Or, add a page to a document using manual picture and it works.
>
> If that doesn't work for you, then I'd also write directly to support.
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 5:55 AM, kelby carlson
> > wrote:
>
> I am really regretting downloading this upgrade now, as my KNFB reader
> has become inoperable. It will not let me recognize out of a document
> window after I have taken a picture, so i can't take consecutive
> pictures; I have to close the app to take another one.
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Re: KNFB Reader and iOS 10

[Richard Turner]

I had a similar problem even after selecting add page to document.
I deleted the app and reinstalled it and it is now working correctly.
If I choose batch mode, I can take several pages in a row then process them. 
Or, add a page to a document using manual picture and it works.

If that doesn't work for you, then I'd also write directly to support.
HTH,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Sep 14, 2016, at 5:55 AM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

I am really regretting downloading this upgrade now, as my KNFB reader
has become inoperable. It will not let me recognize out of a document
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Re: KNFB Reader with PDF FILE

[Nancy Badger]

If you open the file on your phone, there is a button in the upper left corner 
that vo says “open in.” If you double tap it, then you have a list of apps that 
you can open the PDF with. KNFB reader should be one of those apps.
Nancy
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Don't know if this can be done.  I have a PDF FILE WHICH APPARENTLY IS A 
> SCANNED DOCUMENT.  Is there a way I can get this into a readible format using 
> KNFB Reader?  Kind of a strange question for those who use KNFB Reader.  I 
> usually only take pictures of printed material.  Never knew if this 
> particular thing would work.
> 
>  
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