Re: Update to Seeing AI now available.

2024-04-08 Thread Esther Levegnale
Hi,everyone,Wow!  I absolutely love Seeing AI, and it's good to know that there is an update!  Thanks for the info!EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Apr 8, 2024, at 4:46 AM, Sharonda White-Goode  wrote:I definitely agree that this update is quite significant, as I have many photos to clean off my phone. On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 10:04 AM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:The Seeing Ai app continues to add new and useful features and in my opinion is still one of the best apps for any sort of OCR, currency recognition and so on. The fact that it is free of course is also a bonus and I only this morning tried the "Browse Photos" feature and it's much better than what you can do with Be My AI where at least to my knowledge you have to work from the Photos app, open each picture, tap share and send it to Be My AI for recognition. In the Seeing AI app you can give access to your photos library and as you open a picture you get a brief description, you can then tap on More Info and hear more. You can even delete pictures from the Seeing AI app although I find you may have to back out of the Browse Photos feature and go back in before the picture disappears from the list of pictures. Anyways, very nice and I definitely plan to try more of the new features like finding items/objects and also to try the Indoor Navigation feature which allows you to put down something like bread crumbs which you can then save as a route and follow.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt
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Subject: Update to Seeing AI now available.

Hello,

An update to Seeing AI is available in the App Store, here’s what it says about the update.

• Find My Things - This new feature, available via the World channel on devices running iOS 14+, enables you to teach Seeing AI to recognize your personal objects. Most AI systems focus on large datasets of generic objects, so we built this system that provides an audio-first experience to teach new objects yourself. You can then follow the audio cues to locate your things. • Ask questions about photos (English only) - You can now ask Seeing AI questions about photos on the Scene channel, in Browse Photos, or those shared from another app. For example, after hearing the rich description, you may wish to hear more about a specific aspect of the image. • Rich image descriptions, when you tap "More Info", have been improved to include even more details. Additionally, the names of people you have taught Seeing AI to identify are now included. And, this is now available in all 19 languages in which Seeing AI is localized. • Handwriting recognition is now also available in Japanese and Korean. • Document orientation - After scanning a document, you can find out which way round it is - useful when organizing multiple pages for stapling, for example. Tap "More", then "Page Info". • Plus, various bug fixes under the hood.

Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: Update to Seeing AI now available.

2024-04-08 Thread Sharonda White-Goode
I definitely agree that this update is quite significant, as I have many
photos to clean off my phone.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 10:04 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> The Seeing Ai app continues to add new and useful features and in my
> opinion is still one of the best apps for any sort of OCR, currency
> recognition and so on. The fact that it is free of course is also a bonus
> and I only this morning tried the "Browse Photos" feature and it's much
> better than what you can do with Be My AI where at least to my knowledge
> you have to work from the Photos app, open each picture, tap share and send
> it to Be My AI for recognition. In the Seeing AI app you can give access to
> your photos library and as you open a picture you get a brief description,
> you can then tap on More Info and hear more. You can even delete pictures
> from the Seeing AI app although I find you may have to back out of the
> Browse Photos feature and go back in before the picture disappears from the
> list of pictures. Anyways, very nice and I definitely plan to try more of
> the new features like finding items/objects and also to try the Indoor
> Navigation feature which allows you to put down something like bread crumbs
> which you can then save as a route and follow.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Update to Seeing AI now available.
>
> Hello,
>
> An update to Seeing AI is available in the App Store, here’s what it says
> about the update.
>
> • Find My Things - This new feature, available via the World channel on
> devices running iOS 14+, enables you to teach Seeing AI to recognize your
> personal objects. Most AI systems focus on large datasets of generic
> objects, so we built this system that provides an audio-first experience to
> teach new objects yourself. You can then follow the audio cues to locate
> your things. • Ask questions about photos (English only) - You can now ask
> Seeing AI questions about photos on the Scene channel, in Browse Photos, or
> those shared from another app. For example, after hearing the rich
> description, you may wish to hear more about a specific aspect of the
> image. • Rich image descriptions, when you tap "More Info", have been
> improved to include even more details. Additionally, the names of people
> you have taught Seeing AI to identify are now included. And, this is now
> available in all 19 languages in which Seeing AI is localized. •
> Handwriting recognition is now also available in Japanese and Korean. •
> Document orientation - After scanning a document, you can find out which
> way round it is - useful when organizing multiple pages for stapling, for
> example. Tap "More", then "Page Info". • Plus, various bug fixes under the
> hood.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Update to Seeing AI now available.

2024-04-07 Thread Esther Levegnale
hi, everyone, I also think that Seeing AI is a wonderful and awesome app! I 
hope all of you have a fantastic day. Esther.
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> I use Seeing AI quite a bit. I very much like the fact that it has been 
> free. I use it a lot to identify my paper money. It also helps me read my 
> packages that I have frozen food in. I find the app, quite useful and hope 
> that more people would get into using it. I have use the part about looking 
> at photos a little bit, I find that part of it very useful.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2024, at 12:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> The Seeing Ai app continues to add new and useful features and in my 
>> opinion is still one of the best apps for any sort of OCR, currency 
>> recognition and so on. The fact that it is free of course is also a bonus 
>> and I only this morning tried the "Browse Photos" feature and it's much 
>> better than what you can do with Be My AI where at least to my knowledge you 
>> have to work from the Photos app, open each picture, tap share and send it 
>> to Be My AI for recognition. In the Seeing AI app you can give access to 
>> your photos library and as you open a picture you get a brief description, 
>> you can then tap on More Info and hear more. You can even delete pictures 
>> from the Seeing AI app although I find you may have to back out of the 
>> Browse Photos feature and go back in before the picture disappears from the 
>> list of pictures. Anyways, very nice and I definitely plan to try more of 
>> the new features like finding items/objects and also to try the Indoor 
>> Navigation feature which allows you to put down something like bread crumbs 
>> which you can then save as a route and follow.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Update to Seeing AI now available.
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> An update to Seeing AI is available in the App Store, here’s what it says 
>> about the update.
>> 
>> • Find My Things - This new feature, available via the World channel on 
>> devices running iOS 14+, enables you to teach Seeing AI to recognize your 
>> personal objects. Most AI systems focus on large datasets of generic 
>> objects, so we built this system that provides an audio-first experience to 
>> teach new objects yourself. You can then follow the audio cues to locate 
>> your things. • Ask questions about photos (English only) - You can now ask 
>> Seeing AI questions about photos on the Scene channel, in Browse Photos, or 
>> those shared from another app. For example, after hearing the rich 
>> description, you may wish to hear more about a specific aspect of the image. 
>> • Rich image descriptions, when you tap "More Info", have been improved to 
>> include even more details. Additionally, the names of people you have taught 
>> Seeing AI to identify are now included. And, this is now available in all 19 
>> languages in which Seeing AI is localized. • Handwriting recognition is now 
>> also available in Japanese and Korean. • Document orientation - After 
>> scanning a document, you can find out which way round it is - useful when 
>> organizing multiple pages for stapling, for example. Tap "More", then "Page 
>> Info". • Plus, various bug fixes under the hood.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
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Re: Update to Seeing AI now available.

2024-04-06 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Seeing AI does not describe people in the same level as Be My AI does but it is 
still an outstanding app.

In my opinion SuperSense’s document mode is the best at the moment, it guides 
you on placing your phone with instructions like:  Move forward, back, left, 
right, nearer and away so you get the document correctly in the view of the 
camera.  Not all edges are visible is not all that helpful in placing your 
phone correctly.

Yes I know SuperSense is expensive but as I already have a lifetime license it 
makes sense to use it.  Whether it is worth the money is a matter of opinion.  
Many apps now have a similar feature set and all have their strengths.  Having 
all the free ones gives us choice and that is all to the good.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 6 Apr 2024, at 6:08 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> I use Seeing AI quite a bit. I very much like the fact that it has been 
> free. I use it a lot to identify my paper money. It also helps me read my 
> packages that I have frozen food in. I find the app, quite useful and hope 
> that more people would get into using it. I have use the part about looking 
> at photos a little bit, I find that part of it very useful.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2024, at 12:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> The Seeing Ai app continues to add new and useful features and in my 
>> opinion is still one of the best apps for any sort of OCR, currency 
>> recognition and so on. The fact that it is free of course is also a bonus 
>> and I only this morning tried the "Browse Photos" feature and it's much 
>> better than what you can do with Be My AI where at least to my knowledge you 
>> have to work from the Photos app, open each picture, tap share and send it 
>> to Be My AI for recognition. In the Seeing AI app you can give access to 
>> your photos library and as you open a picture you get a brief description, 
>> you can then tap on More Info and hear more. You can even delete pictures 
>> from the Seeing AI app although I find you may have to back out of the 
>> Browse Photos feature and go back in before the picture disappears from the 
>> list of pictures. Anyways, very nice and I definitely plan to try more of 
>> the new features like finding items/objects and also to try the Indoor 
>> Navigation feature which allows you to put down something like bread crumbs 
>> which you can then save as a route and follow.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Update to Seeing AI now available.
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> An update to Seeing AI is available in the App Store, here’s what it says 
>> about the update.
>> 
>> • Find My Things - This new feature, available via the World channel on 
>> devices running iOS 14+, enables you to teach Seeing AI to recognize your 
>> personal objects. Most AI systems focus on large datasets of generic 
>> objects, so we built this system that provides an audio-first experience to 
>> teach new objects yourself. You can then follow the audio cues to locate 
>> your things. • Ask questions about photos (English only) - You can now ask 
>> Seeing AI questions about photos on the Scene channel, in Browse Photos, or 
>> those shared from another app. For example, after hearing the rich 
>> description, you may wish to hear more about a specific aspect of the image. 
>> • Rich image descriptions, when you tap "More Info", have been improved to 
>> include even more details. Additionally, the names of people you have taught 
>> Seeing AI to identify are now included. And, this is now available in all 19 
>> languages in which Seeing AI is localized. • Handwriting recognition is now 
>> also available in Japanese and Korean. • Document orientation - After 
>> scanning a document, you can find out which way round it is - useful when 
>> organizing multiple pages for stapling, for example. Tap "More", then "Page 
>> Info". • Plus, various bug fixes under the hood.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
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Re: Update to Seeing AI now available.

2024-04-06 Thread Barbara Stahl
Yes it's a great app

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> I use Seeing AI quite a bit. I very much like the fact that it has been 
> free. I use it a lot to identify my paper money. It also helps me read my 
> packages that I have frozen food in. I find the app, quite useful and hope 
> that more people would get into using it. I have use the part about looking 
> at photos a little bit, I find that part of it very useful. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2024, at 12:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> The Seeing Ai app continues to add new and useful features and in my 
>> opinion is still one of the best apps for any sort of OCR, currency 
>> recognition and so on. The fact that it is free of course is also a bonus 
>> and I only this morning tried the "Browse Photos" feature and it's much 
>> better than what you can do with Be My AI where at least to my knowledge you 
>> have to work from the Photos app, open each picture, tap share and send it 
>> to Be My AI for recognition. In the Seeing AI app you can give access to 
>> your photos library and as you open a picture you get a brief description, 
>> you can then tap on More Info and hear more. You can even delete pictures 
>> from the Seeing AI app although I find you may have to back out of the 
>> Browse Photos feature and go back in before the picture disappears from the 
>> list of pictures. Anyways, very nice and I definitely plan to try more of 
>> the new features like finding items/objects and also to try the Indoor 
>> Navigation feature which allows you to put down something like bread crumbs 
>> which you can then save as a route and follow.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Update to Seeing AI now available.
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> An update to Seeing AI is available in the App Store, here’s what it says 
>> about the update.
>> 
>> • Find My Things - This new feature, available via the World channel on 
>> devices running iOS 14+, enables you to teach Seeing AI to recognize your 
>> personal objects. Most AI systems focus on large datasets of generic 
>> objects, so we built this system that provides an audio-first experience to 
>> teach new objects yourself. You can then follow the audio cues to locate 
>> your things. • Ask questions about photos (English only) - You can now ask 
>> Seeing AI questions about photos on the Scene channel, in Browse Photos, or 
>> those shared from another app. For example, after hearing the rich 
>> description, you may wish to hear more about a specific aspect of the image. 
>> • Rich image descriptions, when you tap "More Info", have been improved to 
>> include even more details. Additionally, the names of people you have taught 
>> Seeing AI to identify are now included. And, this is now available in all 19 
>> languages in which Seeing AI is localized. • Handwriting recognition is now 
>> also available in Japanese and Korean. • Document orientation - After 
>> scanning a document, you can find out which way round it is - useful when 
>> organizing multiple pages for stapling, for example. Tap "More", then "Page 
>> Info". • Plus, various bug fixes under the hood.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
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Re: Update to Seeing AI now available.

2024-04-06 Thread Michael Irons
I use Seeing AI quite a bit. I very much like the fact that it has been free. I 
use it a lot to identify my paper money. It also helps me read my packages that 
I have frozen food in. I find the app, quite useful and hope that more people 
would get into using it. I have use the part about looking at photos a little 
bit, I find that part of it very useful. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 12:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> The Seeing Ai app continues to add new and useful features and in my opinion 
> is still one of the best apps for any sort of OCR, currency recognition and 
> so on. The fact that it is free of course is also a bonus and I only this 
> morning tried the "Browse Photos" feature and it's much better than what you 
> can do with Be My AI where at least to my knowledge you have to work from the 
> Photos app, open each picture, tap share and send it to Be My AI for 
> recognition. In the Seeing AI app you can give access to your photos library 
> and as you open a picture you get a brief description, you can then tap on 
> More Info and hear more. You can even delete pictures from the Seeing AI app 
> although I find you may have to back out of the Browse Photos feature and go 
> back in before the picture disappears from the list of pictures. Anyways, 
> very nice and I definitely plan to try more of the new features like finding 
> items/objects and also to try the Indoor Navigation feature which allows you 
> to put down something like bread crumbs which you can then save as a route 
> and follow.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Update to Seeing AI now available.
> 
> Hello,
> 
> An update to Seeing AI is available in the App Store, here’s what it says 
> about the update.
> 
> • Find My Things - This new feature, available via the World channel on 
> devices running iOS 14+, enables you to teach Seeing AI to recognize your 
> personal objects. Most AI systems focus on large datasets of generic objects, 
> so we built this system that provides an audio-first experience to teach new 
> objects yourself. You can then follow the audio cues to locate your things. • 
> Ask questions about photos (English only) - You can now ask Seeing AI 
> questions about photos on the Scene channel, in Browse Photos, or those 
> shared from another app. For example, after hearing the rich description, you 
> may wish to hear more about a specific aspect of the image. • Rich image 
> descriptions, when you tap "More Info", have been improved to include even 
> more details. Additionally, the names of people you have taught Seeing AI to 
> identify are now included. And, this is now available in all 19 languages in 
> which Seeing AI is localized. • Handwriting recognition is now also available 
> in Japanese and Korean. • Document orientation - After scanning a document, 
> you can find out which way round it is - useful when organizing multiple 
> pages for stapling, for example. Tap "More", then "Page Info". • Plus, 
> various bug fixes under the hood.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
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RE: Update to Seeing AI now available.

2024-04-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The Seeing Ai app continues to add new and useful features and in my opinion is 
still one of the best apps for any sort of OCR, currency recognition and so on. 
The fact that it is free of course is also a bonus and I only this morning 
tried the "Browse Photos" feature and it's much better than what you can do 
with Be My AI where at least to my knowledge you have to work from the Photos 
app, open each picture, tap share and send it to Be My AI for recognition. In 
the Seeing AI app you can give access to your photos library and as you open a 
picture you get a brief description, you can then tap on More Info and hear 
more. You can even delete pictures from the Seeing AI app although I find you 
may have to back out of the Browse Photos feature and go back in before the 
picture disappears from the list of pictures. Anyways, very nice and I 
definitely plan to try more of the new features like finding items/objects and 
also to try the Indoor Navigation feature which allows you to put down 
something like bread crumbs which you can then save as a route and follow.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Update to Seeing AI now available.

Hello,

An update to Seeing AI is available in the App Store, here’s what it says about 
the update.

• Find My Things - This new feature, available via the World channel on devices 
running iOS 14+, enables you to teach Seeing AI to recognize your personal 
objects. Most AI systems focus on large datasets of generic objects, so we 
built this system that provides an audio-first experience to teach new objects 
yourself. You can then follow the audio cues to locate your things. • Ask 
questions about photos (English only) - You can now ask Seeing AI questions 
about photos on the Scene channel, in Browse Photos, or those shared from 
another app. For example, after hearing the rich description, you may wish to 
hear more about a specific aspect of the image. • Rich image descriptions, when 
you tap "More Info", have been improved to include even more details. 
Additionally, the names of people you have taught Seeing AI to identify are now 
included. And, this is now available in all 19 languages in which Seeing AI is 
localized. • Handwriting recognition is now also available in Japanese and 
Korean. • Document orientation - After scanning a document, you can find out 
which way round it is - useful when organizing multiple pages for stapling, for 
example. Tap "More", then "Page Info". • Plus, various bug fixes under the hood.

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Re: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread CHELA Robles
Here are my thoughts.
I think it’s fine to look at photos with them, but it would be great to know 
how many people are in the photos now whether it’s a man or a woman, it doesn’t 
really matter to me as long as I can figure out what the faces actually look 
like or at least try to find a particular photo which I actually did find 
before they went ahead and changed everything. I wanted to find a photo of me 
personally looking at all the instruments on top of this wall that has cork 
patterns. It’s really really cool and voiceover just says  Woman, spotlight, 
trumpet, saxophone and that’s about it but what it did say with be, my AI was a 
lot more descriptive. It actually described what I was wearing and the color of 
my hair and that I was actually wearing glasses and was feeling various 
instruments and it started to name some instruments, and then it said  That 
there were cork patterns from wine bottles and this was the one I really wanted 
to know about because I wanted to share it with a particular person and they 
thought it was really cool that I was able to locate it successfully on my own. 
And that was just my camera roll and my camera roll has a lot of photos. 
Obviously I wouldn’t want it to say oh look this is Chela Robles that would be 
a little creepy. It would also be creepy if it found out that I was straight 
and not a lesbian. I mean it wouldn’t technically know, but I’m just saying…
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> My feeling is that a sighted person can take a photo and then see the face, 
> whether or not the person gave their permission. These apps as far as I know 
> won't identify people, merely describe them, so what is wrong with that?
> Alison
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RE: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread CJ & AA MAY
My feeling is that a sighted person can take a photo and then see the face, 
whether or not the person gave their permission. These apps as far as I know 
won't identify people, merely describe them, so what is wrong with that?
Alison


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If I understand correctly, and I'm not sure I do, the debate is over whether 
Seeing and other similar apps should do facial recognition. I get it that many 
people don't want to have their face recognized and I don't think blind 
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RE: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread Richard Turner
Did you not read the subject line?
This thread is about Seeing AI.




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Unless the discussion has morphed in a direction I'm not aware of, the subject 
was the Be my AI feature in Be My Eyes. If a photo contains a face,, Be My AI 
will not describe the picture at all, apologetically, of course. The algorithm 
is very strict. I was hoping I could get a description of a religious art work 
in a book my Women's Circle is studying for church. It's an artist's conception 
of a person who lived two thousand years ago. Be my AI no can do. I'll be 
better off asking a human who has the proper frame of reference.
 

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Re: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread Kathy Blackburn
Unless the discussion has morphed in a direction I'm not aware of, the subject 
was the Be my AI feature in Be My Eyes. If a photo contains a face,, Be My AI 
will not describe the picture at all, apologetically, of course. The algorithm 
is very strict. I was hoping I could get a description of a religious art work 
in a book my Women's Circle is studying for church. It's an artist's conception 
of a person who lived two thousand years ago. Be my AI no can do. I'll be 
better off asking a human who has the proper frame of reference.
 

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Sep 18, 2023 11:51 AM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
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Re: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread Evan Reese

Actually, it just occured to me that it could be simpler than I had thought.

The AI could describe a face, and it may very well know who it belongs 
to, but be prohibited from disclosing any identifying information such 
as name, address, phone number, etc.


ChatGPT is already prohibited from disclosing certain information, such 
as how to make an atomic bomb, although it may well have a pretty good 
idea as to how to do it. So they already know how to program it to not 
reveal things.


Evan




On 9/18/2023 1:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

To me, the discussion isn't about facial recognition as in naming the person, 
but rather giving a description of the facial features.
Seeing AI has a channel where you can train it to recognize a picture you take 
of a person and assign a name to that picture after 3 successful photos have 
been taken.
That is very different from combing the internet looking for matches to a 
particular face.





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If I understand correctly, and I'm not sure I do, the debate is over whether 
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Re: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread Evan Reese
I use Seeing AI pretty often for its bar code reading and short text 
features, but I haven't used that one.


But you are basically addressing the same issue I just posted about. 
There is a difference between the description of a face, and the 
identification of

that face with a specific person.

Evan

On 9/18/2023 1:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

To me, the discussion isn't about facial recognition as in naming the person, 
but rather giving a description of the facial features.
Seeing AI has a channel where you can train it to recognize a picture you take 
of a person and assign a name to that picture after 3 successful photos have 
been taken.
That is very different from combing the internet looking for matches to a 
particular face.





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If I understand correctly, and I'm not sure I do, the debate is over whether 
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Re: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
I agree with Richard, I simply see it as an extension of Seeing AI’s person 
Channel or TapTap See’s description.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 18 Sep 2023, at 18:06, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> To me, the discussion isn't about facial recognition as in naming the 
> person, but rather giving a description of the facial features.
> Seeing AI has a channel where you can train it to recognize a picture you 
> take of a person and assign a name to that picture after 3 successful photos 
> have been taken.
> That is very different from combing the internet looking for matches to a 
> particular face.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
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Re: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread Evan Reese
Okay, I do get the idea that a lot of people do not want their faces 
recognized. Facial recognition has a lot of risks associated with it.


But I still do not see why someone could not get a description of a face 
without it being matched to a particular identity.


For example, why couldn't we get a description, say, this person has 
blue eyes, brown hair, et cetera, without saying, this is the face of 
so-and-so?


People seem to be conflating the idea of describing a face with the idea 
of identifying a face. An AI could describe a face without being able to 
say that
it is the face of a specific person. The data that gives the name and 
other info about a specific person could be isolated from the part that 
gives the
description, so that it is inaccessible to the AI so that it would be 
unable to say that it is the face of a particular person. For privacy 
reasons, organizations

keep data separate already, for example medical records.

I've asked this before and noone has been able to explain what I am 
missing.


Evan

On 9/18/2023 12:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Absolutely, there have to be restrictions and safeguards in place especially 
since nobody totally understands yet where all of this AI stuff will go and how 
far it can go.


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RE: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread Richard Turner
To me, the discussion isn't about facial recognition as in naming the person, 
but rather giving a description of the facial features.
Seeing AI has a channel where you can train it to recognize a picture you take 
of a person and assign a name to that picture after 3 successful photos have 
been taken.
That is very different from combing the internet looking for matches to a 
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RE: seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Absolutely, there have to be restrictions and safeguards in place especially 
since nobody totally understands yet where all of this AI stuff will go and how 
far it can go.


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seeing AI and facial recognition

2023-09-18 Thread llumpkin
If I understand correctly, and I'm not sure I do, the debate is over whether
Seeing and other similar apps should do facial recognition. I get it that
many people don't want to have their face recognized and I don't think blind
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RE: seeing AI question

2023-07-23 Thread Dennis Long
Thanks Chris That helped.

 

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Chaffin
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In Seeing A I,go to the menu at the top of the screen, and in there choose 
settings.

In settings, choose configure haptic settings.  In there you will be able to 
choose 4 items you want to be in the haptic pop up and in what order you want 
them.

 

Hope this helps.

 

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Hi, how do you choose will appear in the long press menu when you long press on 
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Re: seeing AI question

2023-07-21 Thread Chris Chaffin
In Seeing A I,go to the menu at the top of the screen, and in there choose settings.In settings, choose configure haptic settings.  In there you will be able to choose 4 items you want to be in the haptic pop up and in what order you want them.Hope this helps.Chris  On Jul 21, 2023, at 3:41 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:Hi, how do you choose will appear in the long press menu when you long press on the app on your home screen?  Thanks.



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seeing AI question

2023-07-21 Thread Dennis Long
Hi, how do you choose will appear in the long press menu when you long press
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RE: Is there any difference between Envission and Seeing AI?

2023-07-20 Thread Richard Turner
Only install Envision if you want to see if it does anything better for you 
than Seeing AI.

I only have it because I was curious.  My go to app for things like product bar 
codes, quick scans with the Short Text channel and once in a while the document 
scanner but I usually use VDScan for that.

I think Seeing AI is better, but that is just me.

 

 

 

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I already have Seeing AI.

Would be useful to install Envision also?

 

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Is there any difference between Envission and Seeing AI?

2023-07-20 Thread Rena
I already have Seeing AI.

Would be useful to install Envision also?

 

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RE: Seeing AI.

2023-07-12 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I think that is what confused me for a while, which is why I haven't been using 
it like I will be doing now, thanks to all of you and your help. 

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You do not need to double tap on the channel. When you flick up or down on the 
channel and hear the one you want, don' touch it, just point the camera. I 
think handwriting with have a button to capture the picture, but most like 
short text, document, product all just work.




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On Jul 11, 2023, at 5:37 PM, Penny Reeder  
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I like Seeing AI when i can get it to work, but, often when i choose a 
channel with a double tap on a button whose label is exactly what i want, it 
switches immediately to a different channel. What m i doing wrong? If i tap on 
Short Text, how can i keep it from switching immediately to People? Thanks for 
your advice! Penny 


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I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! Esther


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I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! 

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they are probably having the same problem I had. though 
the light detector was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had 
to DT it again and it appeared.
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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PM
    Subject: RE: Seeing AI.


What are all the channels  you do have?

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 On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viPhone 
    Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not 
find it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to 
see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you 
know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an 
uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.

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RE: Seeing AI.

2023-07-12 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Strangely enough, I went ibn to see what World View was, and right now, it is 
not there. Light is at the top, though, where I moved it, and I am glad about 
that. 

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Penny Reeder
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI.

I like Seeing AI when i can get it to work, but, often when i choose a channel 
with a double tap on a button whose label is exactly what i want, it switches 
immediately to a different channel. What m i doing wrong? If i tap on Short 
Text, how can i keep it from switching immediately to People? Thanks for your 
advice! Penny 


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Esther Levegnale 
 wrote:




I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold 
<2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:



I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI.

they are probably having the same problem I had. though the 
light detector was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to 
DT it again and it appeared.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PM
    Subject: RE: Seeing AI.


What are all the channels  you do have?

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Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viPhone 
    Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. 
I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if 
there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just 
how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain 
time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.

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RE: Seeing AI.

2023-07-12 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Yes, Roberty, I filally managed to find it. It works! 

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Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AM
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they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was 
checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it 
appeared.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI.


What are all the channels  you do have?

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Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used 
it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a 
video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find 
stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it 
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RE: Seeing AI.

2023-07-12 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I think I have all of them. I've been getting into it and learning more, 
product, document, short text, light, world, one called, it sounds like they 
say scene, then there is currency, color. I have managed to move Light to the 
top now. Thanks for all the help. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI.

What are all the channels  you do have?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used 
it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a 
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Re: Seeing AI.

2023-07-11 Thread William James
Hi Penny,You swipe with one finger up or down to the channel you want.  Once you have landed on the one you want, make VoiceOver’s focus be on something else like help, menu, ETC.  When you double tap the screen, your channel won’t change.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Jul 11, 2023, at 8:37 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:I like Seeing AI when i can get it to work, but, often when i choose a channel with a double tap on a button whose label is exactly what i want, it switches immediately to a different channel. What m i doing wrong? If i tap on Short Text, how can i keep it from switching immediately to People? Thanks for your advice! Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc WrightSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Seeing AI.they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it appeared.- Original Message -From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PMSubject: RE: Seeing AI.What are all the channels  you do have?-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn ArnoldSent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PMTo: viPhone Subject: Seeing AI.Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/09d501d9b393%2422ede240%2468c9a6c0%24%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656CC3A04DFC0B24AE93FD1C731A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011b01d9b3f7%2471d79c70%247001a8c0%40HPDesktop.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moder

Re: Seeing AI.

2023-07-11 Thread Richard Turner
You do not need to double tap on the channel. When you flick up or down on the channel and hear the one you want, don' touch it, just point the camera. I think handwriting with have a button to capture the picture, but most like short text, document, product all just work.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jul 11, 2023, at 5:37 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:I like Seeing AI when i can get it to work, but, often when i choose a channel with a double tap on a button whose label is exactly what i want, it switches immediately to a different channel. What m i doing wrong? If i tap on Short Text, how can i keep it from switching immediately to People? Thanks for your advice! Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc WrightSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Seeing AI.they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it appeared.- Original Message -From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PMSubject: RE: Seeing AI.What are all the channels  you do have?-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn ArnoldSent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PMTo: viPhone Subject: Seeing AI.Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/09d501d9b393%2422ede240%2468c9a6c0%24%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656CC3A04DFC0B24AE93FD1C731A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011b01d9b3f7%2471d79c70%247001a8c0%40HPDesktop.-- The following information is importa

Re: Seeing AI.

2023-07-11 Thread Penny Reeder
I like Seeing AI when i can get it to work, but, often when i choose a channel with a double tap on a button whose label is exactly what i want, it switches immediately to a different channel. What m i doing wrong? If i tap on Short Text, how can i keep it from switching immediately to People? Thanks for your advice! Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc WrightSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Seeing AI.they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it appeared.- Original Message -From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PMSubject: RE: Seeing AI.What are all the channels  you do have?-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn ArnoldSent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PMTo: viPhone Subject: Seeing AI.Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/09d501d9b393%2422ede240%2468c9a6c0%24%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656CC3A04DFC0B24AE93FD1C731A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011b01d9b3f7%2471d79c70%247001a8c0%40HPDesktop.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups

Re: Seeing AI.

2023-07-11 Thread Esther Levegnale
I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI.
> 
> they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector 
> was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again 
> and it appeared.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PM
> Subject: RE: Seeing AI.
> 
> 
> What are all the channels  you do have?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
> To: viPhone 
> Subject: Seeing AI.
> 
> Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't 
> used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there 
> still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how 
> I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time 
> of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.
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RE: Seeing AI.

2023-07-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI.

they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was 
checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it 
appeared.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI.


What are all the channels  you do have?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used 
it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a 
video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find 
stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it 
and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.

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RE: Seeing AI.

2023-07-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I finally did find light. 

I have:

Quick help
Recognizing English
Channel help
Short text

Document
Product
Person
Currency
Scene preview
Color
Handwriting
Light



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI.

What are all the channels  you do have?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used 
it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a 
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stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it 
and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help. 

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RE: Seeing AI.

2023-07-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Oh yes, thanks. I forgot about World Preview. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Seeing AI.

On my phone, Seeing AI has Light between handwriting and World Preview.  You 
use one finger to swipe up through the various channels of Seeing AI.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Jul 10, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I 
> haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to 
> see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any 
> of you know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and 
> kind of had an uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. 
> Thanks for any help.
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Re: Seeing AI.

2023-07-11 Thread Robert Doc Wright
they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector 
was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again 
and it appeared.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI.


What are all the channels  you do have?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold

Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't 
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still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just 
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time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.


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RE: Seeing AI.

2023-07-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
What are all the channels  you do have?

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Arnold
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Subject: Seeing AI.

Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used 
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Re: Seeing AI.

2023-07-10 Thread William James
On my phone, Seeing AI has Light between handwriting and World Preview.  You 
use one finger to swipe up through the various channels of Seeing AI.


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> Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find
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> think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can
> read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find
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> uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks
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Seeing AI.

2023-07-10 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find
it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I
think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can
read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find
stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an
uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks
for any help. 

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RE: Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation

2023-02-01 Thread chrisjudge1967
Sure sounds like it. Let's see how well it works.

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Subject: RE: Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation

That is pretty amazing! 

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Subject: Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation

Hi all,

As per the subject, Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation as part of its 
World channel on devices running iOS14 or newer. (It's a shame that they don't 
have some kind of accessible GPS offering that this could be integrated into.) 
"Indoor Navigation enables you to create routes through a building, and later 
follow that route, guided by spatial audio cues."
I've yet to try it, but the link below is for a basic tutorial that can be 
found within the app:
https://youtu.be/sKMHg1DpTuE

I'd be interested in hearing peoples experiences around how well it works and 
what people are doing with it.

Cheers,
Ben.

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RE: Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation

2023-02-01 Thread Carolyn
That is pretty amazing! 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation

Hi all,

As per the subject, Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation as part of its 
World channel on devices running iOS14 or newer. (It's a shame that they don't 
have some kind of accessible GPS offering that this could be integrated into.) 
"Indoor Navigation enables you to create routes through a building, and later 
follow that route, guided by spatial audio cues."
I've yet to try it, but the link below is for a basic tutorial that can be 
found within the app:
https://youtu.be/sKMHg1DpTuE

I'd be interested in hearing peoples experiences around how well it works and 
what people are doing with it.

Cheers,
Ben.

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RE: Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation

2023-01-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It seems like they are putting some of the Soundscape functionality into the 
Seeing AI app. 


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Subject: Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation

Hi all,

As per the subject, Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation as part of its 
World channel on devices running iOS14 or newer. (It's a shame that they don't 
have some kind of accessible GPS offering that this could be integrated into.) 
"Indoor Navigation enables you to create routes through a building, and later 
follow that route, guided by spatial audio cues."
I've yet to try it, but the link below is for a basic tutorial that can be 
found within the app:
https://youtu.be/sKMHg1DpTuE

I'd be interested in hearing peoples experiences around how well it works and 
what people are doing with it.

Cheers,
Ben.

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Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation

2023-01-30 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi all,

As per the subject, Seeing AI now supports indoor navigation as part
of its World channel on devices running iOS14 or newer. (It's a shame
that they don't have some kind of accessible GPS offering that this
could be integrated into.) "Indoor Navigation enables you to create
routes through a building, and later follow that route, guided by
spatial audio cues."
I've yet to try it, but the link below is for a basic tutorial that
can be found within the app:
https://youtu.be/sKMHg1DpTuE

I'd be interested in hearing peoples experiences around how well it
works and what people are doing with it.

Cheers,
Ben.

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Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-08 Thread Julian
For what it's worth, I have yet to find any app or smart phone based color 
detection system that is anywhere close to being as reliable as a standalone 
device.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Shirley Tracy  wrote:
> 
> 
> I also use IPhone 8 with Seeing AI. It works well for me. I do think the 
> color isn’t always accurate. But I’m able to do a lot with the app.
>  
> Shirley Tracy
>  
> From: Kenny Nead
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 4:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.
>  
> I have an I phone 8, and I use the product feature all the time, and it works 
> very well.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 2:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.
>  
> Matthew,
>  
> Does your client realize that some of the features: Document, Scene, 
> Handwriting, in the Seeing AI app require a photo to be taken? For me, using 
> an iPhone 11, the currency & product features do not work at all. The color 
> feature is 100% inaccurate. My app is up to date & so is my IOS. I only use 
> the Short Text feature in the  Seeing AI app. I recommend VoiceDream Scanner 
> for reading documents & CamFind or TapTap See for colors. EyeNote does great 
> in identifying US dollars. The Short Text feature of the Seeing AI app can 
> read product labels, but it takes some practice when it comes to reading 
> labels on cans. There are two similar apps to Seeing AI, Supersense & 
> Envision AI. Both of these apps to get full functionality have a monthly 
> subscription. I typically don't recommend apps that have a monthly 
> subscription. I prefer to pay for an app & pay for an upgrade or new feature 
> that has been added through an In App purchase. Not everyone likes to use 
> multiple apps when there are options in which one app can do all that is 
> needed. I don't think that a new iPhone will solve your clients problem with 
> the Seeing AI app. Hopefully, one of the above suggestions will help your 
> client.
>  
> Donna
>  
>   
> > I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the
> > camera features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text
> > option does work. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this
> > doesn’t fix the problem. The phone is running the latest updates, so
> > I’m not sure what could be the problem. Before I recommend a new
> > phone, I thought I’d ask here, in case this has come up before Thanks,
> > Matthew
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RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-08 Thread Shirley Tracy
I also use IPhone 8 with Seeing AI. It works well for me. I do think the color isn’t always accurate. But I’m able to do a lot with the app.  Shirley Tracy From: Kenny NeadSent: Monday, March 7, 2022 4:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8. I have an I phone 8, and I use the product feature all the time, and it works very well. -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna CasteenSent: Monday, March 7, 2022 2:14 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8. Matthew, Does your client realize that some of the features: Document, Scene, Handwriting, in the Seeing AI app require a photo to be taken? For me, using an iPhone 11, the currency & product features do not work at all. The color feature is 100% inaccurate. My app is up to date & so is my IOS. I only use the Short Text feature in the  Seeing AI app. I recommend VoiceDream Scanner for reading documents & CamFind or TapTap See for colors. EyeNote does great in identifying US dollars. The Short Text feature of the Seeing AI app can read product labels, but it takes some practice when it comes to reading labels on cans. There are two similar apps to Seeing AI, Supersense & Envision AI. Both of these apps to get full functionality have a monthly subscription. I typically don't recommend apps that have a monthly subscription. I prefer to pay for an app & pay for an upgrade or new feature that has been added through an In App purchase. Not everyone likes to use multiple apps when there are options in which one app can do all that is needed. I don't think that a new iPhone will solve your clients problem with the Seeing AI app. Hopefully, one of the above suggestions will help your client. Donna    > I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the > camera features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text > option does work. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this > doesn’t fix the problem. The phone is running the latest updates, so > I’m not sure what could be the problem. Before I recommend a new > phone, I thought I’d ask here, in case this has come up before Thanks, > Matthew> > --> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at:> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> ---> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2DE5B629-7D3F-497A-903C-C141C474A06F%40gmail.com. --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7829BB2B-F24F-44A1-9E65-DBFD4177ECC4%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on 

RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.

2022-03-08 Thread Kenny Nead
It is funny, I have an I phone 8, and do not have any of these problems, it is 
funny, people that do not even have an an I phone 8 know more about it than a 
person  that has one. I use short text, and product, all the time. LOL

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RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Yes, it often requires you to dismiss all the tutorials after an update and 
it's very annoying.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: March 7, 2022 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

Sometimes, Seeing AI reverts to acting like you have never used any of the 
channels.
And instead of actually being on the channel, you are on the screen telling you 
about that channel, you have to find the back or close button in the upper left 
and double tap it.
Then the channel should work until Seeing AI has another update and you get to 
do that all over again with all the channels.



Richard
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> On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Debby  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You have probably already checked this, but have you looked at settings, 
> Seeing AI, and making sure the camera is on? It probably is since the short 
> text is kind of working, but I think it is worth looking.  
> 
> I also have an iPhone 8 that works with Seeing AI.
> 
> Take care and stay safe!
> 
> Debby
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2022 2:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.
> 
> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the camera 
> features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text option does work. I 
> have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this doesn’t fix the problem. 
> The phone is running the latest updates, so I’m not sure what could be the 
> problem. Before I recommend a new phone, I thought I’d ask here, in case this 
> has come up before Thanks, Matthew 
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RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Unless of course the hardware doesn't support it, which is the case with screen 
recognition, which is only supported on the iPhone XS, XR and later models of 
the iPhone. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211899

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.

If the iPhone 8 can run the latest version of iOS, it would have screen 
recognition on it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> The iPhone 8 does Not have screen recognition.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> He probably has screen recognition on.
>> 
>> That should be turned off under VoiceOver settings, Voiceover recognition.
>> It should also be turned off via the rotor if it is there.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.
>> 
>> A friend of mine has an iPhone eight in and has had similar problems because 
>> he says that he can’t get the cursor to focus on the item he wants to use. 
>> He basically says that the cursor jumps around and he has a hard time 
>> getting the focus on what he wants to do.
>> As for me, I have run sing AI on both the iPhone 6 and the iPhone SE 20 
>> which I have recently gotten a hold of.
>> I hope this helps
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Donna Casteen
Sorry Michael you are incorrect. Screen recognition is on the iPhone 11, 12, 13 
& the Se 2020 only. If you don't believe me Google it or search Apple's website.

Donna


> 
> If the iPhone 8 can run the latest version of iOS, it would have screen 
> recognition on it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> 
>> The iPhone 8 does Not have screen recognition.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> He probably has screen recognition on.
>>> 
>>> That should be turned off under VoiceOver settings, Voiceover recognition.
>>> It should also be turned off via the rotor if it is there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Michael Irons
>>> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 11:43 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.
>>> 
>>> A friend of mine has an iPhone eight in and has had similar problems 
>>> because he says that he can’t get the cursor to focus on the item he wants 
>>> to use. He basically says that the cursor jumps around and he has a hard 
>>> time getting the focus on what he wants to do.
>>> As for me, I have run sing AI on both the iPhone 6 and the iPhone SE 20 
>>> which I have recently gotten a hold of.
>>> I hope this helps
>>> Michael 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew,
>>>>> I previously had an IPhone 8 and had no issues with seeing AI.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Matthew Bullis
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 2:04 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the 
>>>>> camera features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text 
>>>>> option does work. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this 
>>>>> doesn’t fix the problem. The phone is running the latest updates, so 
>>>>> I’m not sure what could be the problem. Before I recommend a new 
>>>>> phone, I thought I’d ask here, in case this has come up before Thanks, 
>>>>> Matthew
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Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Michael Irons
If the iPhone 8 can run the latest version of iOS, it would have screen 
recognition on it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> The iPhone 8 does Not have screen recognition.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> He probably has screen recognition on.
>> 
>> That should be turned off under VoiceOver settings, Voiceover recognition.
>> It should also be turned off via the rotor if it is there.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Irons
>> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 11:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.
>> 
>> A friend of mine has an iPhone eight in and has had similar problems because 
>> he says that he can’t get the cursor to focus on the item he wants to use. 
>> He basically says that the cursor jumps around and he has a hard time 
>> getting the focus on what he wants to do.
>> As for me, I have run sing AI on both the iPhone 6 and the iPhone SE 20 
>> which I have recently gotten a hold of.
>> I hope this helps
>> Michael 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Matthew,
>>> I previously had an IPhone 8 and had no issues with seeing AI.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!
>>> Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with 
>>> disabilities, access job openings at:  www.benderconsult.com/jobs 
>>> Bender Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
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>>> Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567
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>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Matthew Bullis
>>> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 2:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.
>>> 
>>> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the 
>>> camera features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text 
>>> option does work. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this 
>>> doesn’t fix the problem. The phone is running the latest updates, so 
>>> I’m not sure what could be the problem. Before I recommend a new 
>>> phone, I thought I’d ask here, in case this has come up before Thanks, 
>>> Matthew
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RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Kenny Nead
I have an I phone 8, and I use the product feature all the time, and it works 
very well.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

Matthew,

Does your client realize that some of the features: Document, Scene, 
Handwriting, in the Seeing AI app require a photo to be taken? For me, using an 
iPhone 11, the currency & product features do not work at all. The color 
feature is 100% inaccurate. My app is up to date & so is my IOS. I only use the 
Short Text feature in the  Seeing AI app. I recommend VoiceDream Scanner for 
reading documents & CamFind or TapTap See for colors. EyeNote does great in 
identifying US dollars. The Short Text feature of the Seeing AI app can read 
product labels, but it takes some practice when it comes to reading labels on 
cans. There are two similar apps to Seeing AI, Supersense & Envision AI. Both 
of these apps to get full functionality have a monthly subscription. I 
typically don't recommend apps that have a monthly subscription. I prefer to 
pay for an app & pay for an upgrade or new feature that has been added through 
an In App purchase. Not everyone likes to use multiple apps when there are 
options in which one app can do all that is needed. I don't think that a new 
iPhone will solve your clients problem with the Seeing AI app. Hopefully, one 
of the above suggestions will help your client.

Donna

   
> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the 
> camera features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text 
> option does work. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this 
> doesn’t fix the problem. The phone is running the latest updates, so 
> I’m not sure what could be the problem. Before I recommend a new 
> phone, I thought I’d ask here, in case this has come up before Thanks, 
> Matthew
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Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Donna Casteen
The iPhone 8 does Not have screen recognition.

Donna

> 
> He probably has screen recognition on.
> 
> That should be turned off under VoiceOver settings, Voiceover recognition.
> It should also be turned off via the rotor if it is there.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Irons
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 11:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.
> 
> A friend of mine has an iPhone eight in and has had similar problems because 
> he says that he can’t get the cursor to focus on the item he wants to use. He 
> basically says that the cursor jumps around and he has a hard time getting 
> the focus on what he wants to do.
> As for me, I have run sing AI on both the iPhone 6 and the iPhone SE 20 which 
> I have recently gotten a hold of.
> I hope this helps
> Michael 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Matthew,
>> I previously had an IPhone 8 and had no issues with seeing AI.  
>> 
>> 
>> TODAY, I CHOOSE JOY!
>> Johna Gravitt – Accessibility and Talent Associate People with 
>> disabilities, access job openings at:  www.benderconsult.com/jobs 
>> Bender Consulting Services, Inc. Competitive Jobs Mean Freedom
>> Email: jgrav...@benderconsult.com
>> Phone: (412)-212-6761
>> Main office Phone:  (412)-787-8567
>> Web: www.benderconsult.com
>> https://benderconsult.com/insights/disability-matters-podcast/
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Matthew Bullis
>> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 2:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.
>> 
>> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the 
>> camera features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text 
>> option does work. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this 
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RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Richard Turner
Note to that most channels other than short text require internet access.
I'm not sure about Currency, it may not require internet, but it works fine for 
me.
I wouldn't trust any iPhone app for colors.
.


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-Original Message-
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Casteen
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Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

Matthew,

Does your client realize that some of the features: Document, Scene, 
Handwriting, in the Seeing AI app require a photo to be taken? For me, using an 
iPhone 11, the currency & product features do not work at all. The color 
feature is 100% inaccurate. My app is up to date & so is my IOS. I only use the 
Short Text feature in the  Seeing AI app. I recommend VoiceDream Scanner for 
reading documents & CamFind or TapTap See for colors. EyeNote does great in 
identifying US dollars. The Short Text feature of the Seeing AI app can read 
product labels, but it takes some practice when it comes to reading labels on 
cans. There are two similar apps to Seeing AI, Supersense & Envision AI. Both 
of these apps to get full functionality have a monthly subscription. I 
typically don't recommend apps that have a monthly subscription. I prefer to 
pay for an app & pay for an upgrade or new feature that has been added through 
an In App purchase. Not everyone likes to use multiple apps when there are 
options in which one app can do all that is needed. I don't think that a new 
iPhone will solve your clients problem with the Seeing AI app. Hopefully, one 
of the above suggestions will help your client.

Donna

   
> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the 
> camera features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text 
> option does work. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this 
> doesn’t fix the problem. The phone is running the latest updates, so 
> I’m not sure what could be the problem. Before I recommend a new 
> phone, I thought I’d ask here, in case this has come up before Thanks, 
> Matthew
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Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Donna Casteen
Matthew,

Does your client realize that some of the features: Document, Scene, 
Handwriting, in the Seeing AI app require a photo to be taken? For me, using an 
iPhone 11, the currency & product features do not work at all. The color 
feature is 100% inaccurate. My app is up to date & so is my IOS. I only use the 
Short Text feature in the  Seeing AI app. I recommend VoiceDream Scanner for 
reading documents & CamFind or TapTap See for colors. EyeNote does great in 
identifying US dollars. The Short Text feature of the Seeing AI app can read 
product labels, but it takes some practice when it comes to reading labels on 
cans. There are two similar apps to Seeing AI, Supersense & Envision AI. Both 
of these apps to get full functionality have a monthly subscription. I 
typically don't recommend apps that have a monthly subscription. I prefer to 
pay for an app & pay for an upgrade or new feature that has been added through 
an In App purchase. Not everyone likes to use multiple apps when there are 
options in which one app can do all that is needed. I don't think that a new 
iPhone will solve your clients problem with the Seeing AI app. Hopefully, one 
of the above suggestions will help your client.

Donna

   
> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the camera 
> features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text option does work. I 
> have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this doesn’t fix the problem. 
> The phone is running the latest updates, so I’m not sure what could be the 
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> has come up before
> Thanks,
> Matthew 
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RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Richard Turner
He probably has screen recognition on.

That should be turned off under VoiceOver settings, Voiceover recognition.
It should also be turned off via the rotor if it is there.


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A friend of mine has an iPhone eight in and has had similar problems because he 
says that he can’t get the cursor to focus on the item he wants to use. He 
basically says that the cursor jumps around and he has a hard time getting the 
focus on what he wants to do.
As for me, I have run sing AI on both the iPhone 6 and the iPhone SE 20 which I 
have recently gotten a hold of.
I hope this helps
Michael 

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> 
> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the 
> camera features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text 
> option does work. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this 
> doesn’t fix the problem. The phone is running the latest updates, so 
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Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Michael Irons
A friend of mine has an iPhone eight in and has had similar problems because he 
says that he can’t get the cursor to focus on the item he wants to use. He 
basically says that the cursor jumps around and he has a hard time getting the 
focus on what he wants to do.
As for me, I have run sing AI on both the iPhone 6 and the iPhone SE 20 which I 
have recently gotten a hold of.
I hope this helps
Michael 

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> On Mar 7, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
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> I previously had an IPhone 8 and had no issues with seeing AI.  
> 
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> 
> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the camera 
> features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text option does work. I 
> have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this doesn’t fix the problem. 
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RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread chrisjudge1967
I think that usually happens after an update.

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Turner
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Subject: Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

Sometimes, Seeing AI reverts to acting like you have never used any of the 
channels.
And instead of actually being on the channel, you are on the screen telling you 
about that channel, you have to find the back or close button in the upper left 
and double tap it.
Then the channel should work until Seeing AI has another update and you get to 
do that all over again with all the channels.



Richard
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> On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Debby  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You have probably already checked this, but have you looked at settings, 
> Seeing AI, and making sure the camera is on? It probably is since the short 
> text is kind of working, but I think it is worth looking.  
> 
> I also have an iPhone 8 that works with Seeing AI.
> 
> Take care and stay safe!
> 
> Debby
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.
> 
> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the camera 
> features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text option does work. I 
> have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this doesn’t fix the problem. 
> The phone is running the latest updates, so I’m not sure what could be the 
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Re: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Richard Turner
Sometimes, Seeing AI reverts to acting like you have never used any of the 
channels.
And instead of actually being on the channel, you are on the screen telling you 
about that channel, you have to find the back or close button in the upper left 
and double tap it.
Then the channel should work until Seeing AI has another update and you get to 
do that all over again with all the channels.



Richard
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can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

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> On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Debby  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You have probably already checked this, but have you looked at settings, 
> Seeing AI, and making sure the camera is on? It probably is since the short 
> text is kind of working, but I think it is worth looking.  
> 
> I also have an iPhone 8 that works with Seeing AI.
> 
> Take care and stay safe!
> 
> Debby
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2022 2:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.
> 
> I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the camera 
> features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text option does work. I 
> have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this doesn’t fix the problem. 
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RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Debby
Hi,

You have probably already checked this, but have you looked at settings, Seeing 
AI, and making sure the camera is on? It probably is since the short text is 
kind of working, but I think it is worth looking.  

I also have an iPhone 8 that works with Seeing AI.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby
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I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the camera 
features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text option does work. I 
have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this doesn’t fix the problem. The 
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RE: Can't use Seeing AI on iPhone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Johna Gravitt
Matthew,
I previously had an IPhone 8 and had no issues with seeing AI.  


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I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the camera 
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Can't use Seeing AI on iphone 8.

2022-03-07 Thread Matthew Bullis
I have a client who has an iphone 8, and is unable to use any of the camera 
features of the Seeing AI app, except that the short text option does work. I 
have uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but this doesn’t fix the problem. The 
phone is running the latest updates, so I’m not sure what could be the problem. 
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RE: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

2021-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Sandy,
I agree, that would be nice.  I know someone who records YouTube videos with a 
cheap version of a GoPro type camera, but it only allows access through that 
camera’s app; nothing else can use the camera.

Apple would have to allow the phone to access alternate cameras just like it 
does now with keyboards.

My wife made me a prototype of an iPhone holder that you wear around your neck 
and have the phone at the breastbone level or so, it was made out of heavy, 
clear vinyl.
That way, it is protected from the rain and could work.  It would just need 
some higher level customization than what she can do to really make it 
perfectly functional.

Such things already exist in one form or another.
NaviLens is definitely getting much more advanced and I’m starting to figure 
out ways to use it in my house for labeling items.

Good luck,



Richard
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From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 12:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

thanks you two,
I shall contact the various app developers, but thought, just in case, someone 
who may have already done this or at least tried it. some of these cameras 
allow you to stream live, via your phone. so, I am hopeful… I have been trying 
to promote Navilens, here in Ireland. however, for  some people, the sort of 
holding the expensive iPhones out, and available to be pinched, is a 
showstopper. I can see lots of advantages to linking a small wearable camera to 
the phone and the apps on it, so I shall persevere.
Thanks, Sandy PS, we don't have a I RA here in Ireland yet.

Sent from The dark side of the moon

On 23 Sep 2021, at 16:31, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Aira supports the use of Google Glasses as long as you are a subscriber. As for 
Seeing AI and Be My Eyes why not write to the developers and ask or suggest 
that they make this possible.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 23, 2021 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

I doubt that unless the app supports the app that comes with the wearable 
camera.
How about getting a holder designed to hold the phone with the camera facing 
out.
Cane Travel/mobility instructors have been using various ones for a long time.
Plus people using AIRA etc.
Some are just a lanyard you wear around your neck that are clear or have a 
cut-out for the camera and you wear them at about your breastbone level.
There are also wearable mounts that are like putting on a harness, that hold 
the phone about a foot out from your chest.
I do not have any particular brand names, but search the web, Amazon, etc., and 
you should find something with the words hands free lanyard, or hands free 
phone mount, ... good luck.


Richard
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On Sep 23, 2021, at 2:31 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
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Hi,

  Has anyone done this, using a wearable camera bluetoothed or wified to the 
phone with these apps. I am playing with the NaviLens labelling system, and 
want to use the app without needing to hold my phone in my hand.

   Would love to know if it will work!

   Thanks, Sandy.

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Re: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

2021-09-24 Thread 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
thanks you two,
I shall contact the various app developers, but thought, just in case, someone 
who may have already done this or at least tried it. some of these cameras 
allow you to stream live, via your phone. so, I am hopeful… I have been trying 
to promote Navilens, here in Ireland. however, for  some people, the sort of 
holding the expensive iPhones out, and available to be pinched, is a 
showstopper. I can see lots of advantages to linking a small wearable camera to 
the phone and the apps on it, so I shall persevere.
Thanks, Sandy PS, we don't have a I RA here in Ireland yet.

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 23 Sep 2021, at 16:31, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Aira supports the use of Google Glasses as long as you are a subscriber. As 
> for Seeing AI and Be My Eyes why not write to the developers and ask or 
> suggest that they make this possible.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 23, 2021 7:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes
>  
> I doubt that unless the app supports the app that comes with the wearable 
> camera.
> How about getting a holder designed to hold the phone with the camera facing 
> out.
> Cane Travel/mobility instructors have been using various ones for a long time.
> Plus people using AIRA etc.
> Some are just a lanyard you wear around your neck that are clear or have a 
> cut-out for the camera and you wear them at about your breastbone level.
> There are also wearable mounts that are like putting on a harness, that hold 
> the phone about a foot out from your chest.
> I do not have any particular brand names, but search the web, Amazon, etc., 
> and you should find something with the words hands free lanyard, or hands 
> free phone mount, ... good luck.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 23, 2021, at 2:31 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   Has anyone done this, using a wearable camera bluetoothed or wified to the 
> phone with these apps. I am playing with the NaviLens labelling system, and 
> want to use the app without needing to hold my phone in my hand.
> 
>Would love to know if it will work!
> 
>Thanks, Sandy. 
> 
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RE: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

2021-09-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Aira supports the use of Google Glasses as long as you are a subscriber. As for 
Seeing AI and Be My Eyes why not write to the developers and ask or suggest 
that they make this possible.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: September 23, 2021 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

I doubt that unless the app supports the app that comes with the wearable 
camera.
How about getting a holder designed to hold the phone with the camera facing 
out.
Cane Travel/mobility instructors have been using various ones for a long time.
Plus people using AIRA etc.
Some are just a lanyard you wear around your neck that are clear or have a 
cut-out for the camera and you wear them at about your breastbone level.
There are also wearable mounts that are like putting on a harness, that hold 
the phone about a foot out from your chest.
I do not have any particular brand names, but search the web, Amazon, etc., and 
you should find something with the words hands free lanyard, or hands free 
phone mount, ... good luck.


Richard
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On Sep 23, 2021, at 2:31 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
 wrote:
Hi,

  Has anyone done this, using a wearable camera bluetoothed or wified to the 
phone with these apps. I am playing with the NaviLens labelling system, and 
want to use the app without needing to hold my phone in my hand.

   Would love to know if it will work!

   Thanks, Sandy.

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Re: Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

2021-09-23 Thread Richard Turner
I doubt that unless the app supports the app that comes with the wearable 
camera.
How about getting a holder designed to hold the phone with the camera facing 
out.
Cane Travel/mobility instructors have been using various ones for a long time.
Plus people using AIRA etc.
Some are just a lanyard you wear around your neck that are clear or have a 
cut-out for the camera and you wear them at about your breastbone level.
There are also wearable mounts that are like putting on a harness, that hold 
the phone about a foot out from your chest.
I do not have any particular brand names, but search the web, Amazon, etc., and 
you should find something with the words hands free lanyard, or hands free 
phone mount, ... good luck.



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On Sep 23, 2021, at 2:31 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
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Hi,

  Has anyone done this, using a wearable camera bluetoothed or wified to the 
phone with these apps. I am playing with the NaviLens labelling system, and 
want to use the app without needing to hold my phone in my hand.

   Would love to know if it will work!

   Thanks, Sandy.

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Using an auxiliary camera with apps like Seeing AI or BeMyEyes

2021-09-23 Thread 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
Hi,

   Has anyone done this, using a wearable camera bluetoothed or wified to the 
phone with these apps. I am playing with the NaviLens labelling system, and 
want to use the app without needing to hold my phone in my hand.

Would love to know if it will work!

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RE: microsoft Seeing Ai query

2021-08-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If you want to know this in future just go to the App Store and check what the 
latest version is, if there is an update you will be given the option to update 
it.
It clearly indicates the version and when the app was last updated below the 
description, here is what is says:.

What’s New
Version History
Jun. 17, 2021
Version 4.1.1
This release includes various bug fixes to make your experience even better.

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Hi

My Microsoft seeing Ai version is 411, so I wish to know if this is the latest 
version and if there is another version, I would like to know how to update it.
Thanks in advance for any help

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Re: microsoft Seeing Ai query

2021-08-24 Thread Arnold Schmidt
My version also is 4.1.1. When it needs updating, it shows up when I check for 
updates in the app store. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Aug 24, 2021, at 5:03 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:


Hi
 
My Microsoft seeing Ai version is 411, so I wish to know if this is the latest 
version and if there is another version, I would like to know how to update it.
Thanks in advance for any help
 
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microsoft Seeing Ai query

2021-08-24 Thread Anthony Borg
Hi 

 

My Microsoft seeing Ai version is 411, so I wish to know if this is the
latest version and if there is another version, I would like to know how to
update it. 

Thanks in advance for any help 

 

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RE: Seeing AI and Shortcuts

2021-05-17 Thread Richard Turner
I just set up two seeing ai shortcuts that I had not used before, Scene, and 
Hand Writing.
I did this through the Seeing AI settings, Configure shortcuts.
I accepted the default phrases, Recognize Scene and Recognize Handwriting.
Both commands worked as expected in that it opened Seeing AI with the 
appropriate channel open and then I hit the take picture button.




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-Original Message-
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Subject: Seeing AI and Shortcuts

Hello,
One of my colleagues  is trying to help people use Seeing AI and has reported 
for the second time not being able to create the Siri shortcuts for the various 
channels in the app.  Has anyone experienced anything similar and if so, what 
was the solution?

Thanks in advance,


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Seeing AI and Shortcuts

2021-05-17 Thread Kelly Hill
Hello,
One of my colleagues  is trying to help people use Seeing AI and has
reported for the second time not being able to create the Siri
shortcuts for the various channels in the app.  Has anyone experienced
anything similar and if so, what was the solution?

Thanks in advance,


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Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-04-03 Thread Arlene
We've had a much better experience with the barcode reading with supersense too.

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  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble


  I  have had horrible luck with the Seeing AI. Supersense AI is better. 


  Wayne Scott  



On Mar 30, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


The creator of Seeing AI recommends that once you have an idea what part 
of the package the bar code is located, you start with the camera 8 or 10 
inches away and slowly move closer.  If the bar card is there, it will start 
making a sound.
Or, while holding the camera about 8 to 10 inches away and if you are sure 
it is pointed to the package, start rotating the package slowly, you should 
hear something and when you do stop moving the package and slowly bring the 
camera closer.

The main tips for bar codes that I know are:
1.  on cans, it is usually near the seam in the label on the middle to 
lower portion of the can.

2.  ON packages that are plastic bags, like chocolate chips, it is also by 
the seam and you just have to move back and forth until you find it.

3.  ON boxes, it is usually on the bottom again near the seam, but not 
always.
   For example, Lean Cuisine frozen meals the bar code is on the back near 
a corner, where no seam exists.  You can tell it’s the back because the flaps 
that are glued down has the edge toward the bottom.

4.  On some soda cans, there are no labels, so you are on your own to just 
rotate the can until you find it.

Or, as someone else said, use the Short Text feature and read the label.
Though, sometimes, there is good extra information included in the bar code.





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Josh:

I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have 
better luck with the 'short text' feature to read the front of the label.

If you still want to use the bar code feature, double tap on it and the bar 
code is usually to the left of the label seam on the bottom. 

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Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-31 Thread William James
You can also use the documents channel for seeing AI to scan directions. It 
will seem to be a bit disjointed, but if you are patient and listen to it, you 
will be able to figure that out.

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The More Info is completely determined by the manufacturer.
> Lean Cuisine often has complete cooking instructions.
> While some, yes, are just an ad.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 9:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble
> 
> I use this feature often. The biggest struggle is locating the barcode on the 
> item. Once located though, SeeingAI reads it nearly every time. 
> 
> Something I'm not clear about is the additional information from the barcode. 
> Sometimes there are cooking directions, sometimes a bit of nutrition, other 
> times it feels like an add for the product. My favorite is when cooking 
> directions come up.
> 
> A tip for myFitnessPal users, find the barcode with SeeingAI first, then scan 
> it with MyFitnessPal. The beeps from SeeingAI are helpful.
> 
> HTH,
> Traci
> 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh yeah, Hollie, it could be that I used short text. 
>> 
>> I know that on long text, it will read an entire 8 1/2 x 11 typed page. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Holly
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble
>> 
>> Josh:
>> 
>> I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have 
>> better luck with the 'short text' feature to read the front of the label.
>> 
>> If you still want to use the bar code feature, double tap on it and the bar 
>> code is usually to the left of the label seam on the bottom. 
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RE: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-31 Thread Richard Turner
The More Info is completely determined by the manufacturer.
Lean Cuisine often has complete cooking instructions.
While some, yes, are just an ad.



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Duncan
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

I use this feature often. The biggest struggle is locating the barcode on the 
item. Once located though, SeeingAI reads it nearly every time. 

Something I'm not clear about is the additional information from the barcode. 
Sometimes there are cooking directions, sometimes a bit of nutrition, other 
times it feels like an add for the product. My favorite is when cooking 
directions come up.

A tip for myFitnessPal users, find the barcode with SeeingAI first, then scan 
it with MyFitnessPal. The beeps from SeeingAI are helpful.

HTH,
Traci


> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Oh yeah, Hollie, it could be that I used short text. 
> 
> I know that on long text, it will read an entire 8 1/2 x 11 typed page. 
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> Josh:
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> I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have 
> better luck with the 'short text' feature to read the front of the label.
> 
> If you still want to use the bar code feature, double tap on it and the bar 
> code is usually to the left of the label seam on the bottom. 
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Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-31 Thread Traci Duncan
I use this feature often. The biggest struggle is locating the barcode on the 
item. Once located though, SeeingAI reads it nearly every time. 

Something I’m not clear about is the additional information from the barcode. 
Sometimes there are cooking directions, sometimes a bit of nutrition, other 
times it feels like an add for the product. My favorite is when cooking 
directions come up.

A tip for myFitnessPal users, find the barcode with SeeingAI first, then scan 
it with MyFitnessPal. The beeps from SeeingAI are helpful.

HTH,
Traci


> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Oh yeah, Hollie, it could be that I used short text. 
> 
> I know that on long text, it will read an entire 8 1/2 x 11 typed page. 
> 
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> Josh:
> 
> I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have 
> better luck with the 'short text' feature to read the front of the label.
> 
> If you still want to use the bar code feature, double tap on it and the bar 
> code is usually to the left of the label seam on the bottom. 
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RE: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-30 Thread Carolyn
Oh yeah, Hollie, it could be that I used short text. 

I know that on long text, it will read an entire 8 1/2 x 11 typed page. 

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Josh:

I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have better 
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RE: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-30 Thread Carolyn
I tried it once on crackers, and it read crackers. I can't remember if it read 
anymore or not; it's been a while. 

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Subject: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

Hi to all.  I heard that seeing AI can recognize barcodes.  I've been trying to 
use this feature of the app, and I'm not having much luck.
I bring up the product channel and I put the can I want on the counter of our 
kitchen and I make sure the light is on.  I then hold my phone away from the 
can and I turn the can.  I don't hear any beeps or anything.  I saw the 
tutorial video where this is supposed to happen.
I even tried it with a box of cereal and still no luck.

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RE: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-30 Thread Richard Turner
Well, I’ve used both successfully for bar codes.

Seeing AI is free.
Supersense, is $99.99.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:34 PM
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I  have had horrible luck with the Seeing AI. Supersense AI is better.
Wayne Scott



On Mar 30, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
The creator of Seeing AI recommends that once you have an idea what part of 
the package the bar code is located, you start with the camera 8 or 10 inches 
away and slowly move closer.  If the bar card is there, it will start making a 
sound.
Or, while holding the camera about 8 to 10 inches away and if you are sure it 
is pointed to the package, start rotating the package slowly, you should hear 
something and when you do stop moving the package and slowly bring the camera 
closer.

The main tips for bar codes that I know are:
1.  on cans, it is usually near the seam in the label on the middle to lower 
portion of the can.

2.  ON packages that are plastic bags, like chocolate chips, it is also by the 
seam and you just have to move back and forth until you find it.

3.  ON boxes, it is usually on the bottom again near the seam, but not always.
   For example, Lean Cuisine frozen meals the bar code is on the back near a 
corner, where no seam exists.  You can tell it’s the back because the flaps 
that are glued down has the edge toward the bottom.

4.  On some soda cans, there are no labels, so you are on your own to just 
rotate the can until you find it.

Or, as someone else said, use the Short Text feature and read the label.
Though, sometimes, there is good extra information included in the bar code.





Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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Josh:

I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have better 
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If you still want to use the bar code feature, double tap on it and the bar 
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Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-30 Thread Wayne Scott
I  have had horrible luck with the Seeing AI. Supersense AI is better. 

Wayne Scott  
 

> On Mar 30, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The creator of Seeing AI recommends that once you have an idea what part of 
> the package the bar code is located, you start with the camera 8 or 10 inches 
> away and slowly move closer.  If the bar card is there, it will start making 
> a sound.
> Or, while holding the camera about 8 to 10 inches away and if you are sure it 
> is pointed to the package, start rotating the package slowly, you should hear 
> something and when you do stop moving the package and slowly bring the camera 
> closer.
> 
> The main tips for bar codes that I know are:
> 1.  on cans, it is usually near the seam in the label on the middle to lower 
> portion of the can.
> 
> 2.  ON packages that are plastic bags, like chocolate chips, it is also by 
> the seam and you just have to move back and forth until you find it.
> 
> 3.  ON boxes, it is usually on the bottom again near the seam, but not always.
>For example, Lean Cuisine frozen meals the bar code is on the back near a 
> corner, where no seam exists.  You can tell it’s the back because the flaps 
> that are glued down has the edge toward the bottom.
> 
> 4.  On some soda cans, there are no labels, so you are on your own to just 
> rotate the can until you find it.
> 
> Or, as someone else said, use the Short Text feature and read the label.
> Though, sometimes, there is good extra information included in the bar code.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Josh:
> 
> I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have 
> better luck with the 'short text' feature to read the front of the label.
> 
> If you still want to use the bar code feature, double tap on it and the bar 
> code is usually to the left of the label seam on the bottom. 
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RE: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-30 Thread Richard Turner
The creator of Seeing AI recommends that once you have an idea what part of the 
package the bar code is located, you start with the camera 8 or 10 inches away 
and slowly move closer.  If the bar card is there, it will start making a sound.
Or, while holding the camera about 8 to 10 inches away and if you are sure it 
is pointed to the package, start rotating the package slowly, you should hear 
something and when you do stop moving the package and slowly bring the camera 
closer.

The main tips for bar codes that I know are:
1.  on cans, it is usually near the seam in the label on the middle to lower 
portion of the can.

2.  ON packages that are plastic bags, like chocolate chips, it is also by the 
seam and you just have to move back and forth until you find it.

3.  ON boxes, it is usually on the bottom again near the seam, but not always.
For example, Lean Cuisine frozen meals the bar code is on the back near 
a corner, where no seam exists.  You can tell it’s the back because the flaps 
that are glued down has the edge toward the bottom.

4.  On some soda cans, there are no labels, so you are on your own to just 
rotate the can until you find it.

Or, as someone else said, use the Short Text feature and read the label.
Though, sometimes, there is good extra information included in the bar code.





Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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Josh:

I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have better 
luck with the 'short text' feature to read the front of the label.

If you still want to use the bar code feature, double tap on it and the bar 
code is usually to the left of the label seam on the bottom. 

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Re: how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-30 Thread Holly

Josh:

I have never had much luck with the bar code reader in Seeing A I.  Have 
better luck with the 'short text' feature to read the front of the label.


If you still want to use the bar code feature, double tap on it and the bar 
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how do I use seeing AI to read me a barcode?, am having trouble

2021-03-30 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Hi to all.  I heard that seeing AI can recognize barcodes.  I've been
trying to use this feature of the app, and I'm not having much luck.
I bring up the product channel and I put the can I want on the counter
of our kitchen and I make sure the light is on.  I then hold my phone
away from the can and I turn the can.  I don't hear any beeps or
anything.  I saw the tutorial video where this is supposed to happen.
I even tried it with a box of cereal and still no luck.

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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-25 Thread h.begum99 via VIPhone
That’s funny about your dog being referred to as a bear!!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: 23 December 2020 05:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is no

Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-23 Thread Richard Turner
They make cases that you can wear that hold the phone so the camera is pointed 
in front of you, several are like a harness that  has the phone clamped in so 
no one can just grab it. And they are often less than $50 instead of 3000 plus 
and you then do not have another battery powered device to keep charged.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 6:55 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:


Richard, Jose, the person doing the demo said that he prefers the google glass 
as he does not have to keep waving his phone around running the risk that 
someone with ill intent will remove it from him.  I played around with 
supersense explorer mode today while sitting in the doctor exam room.  I could 
not get it to find the chair which I knew to be there.  It found my dog and, 
after identifying correctly for several times, it suddenly called her a cat!  
Not sure why that happened.  Do u know if Supersense is supposed to work on the 
original Iphone se?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.
And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription.
Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.
Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow.
With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring environment.
So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact t

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-23 Thread kitty hevener
Richard, Jose, the person doing the demo said that he prefers the google glass 
as he does not have to keep waving his phone around running the risk that 
someone with ill intent will remove it from him.  I played around with 
supersense explorer mode today while sitting in the doctor exam room.  I could 
not get it to find the chair which I knew to be there.  It found my dog and, 
after identifying correctly for several times, it suddenly called her a cat!  
Not sure why that happened.  Do u know if Supersense is supposed to work on the 
original Iphone se?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.  

And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription. 

Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.

Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that

Re: Seeing AI update

2020-12-23 Thread Marie N.

This is a feature that might convince me that I need an IPhone 12. LOL!
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:56 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI update

Seeing AI, Today, • The new World channel, available on devices with a LiDAR 
scanner running iOS 14, enables you to explore an unfamiliar space in 3D, 
using spatial audio. When wearing headphones, you will hear objects around 
you announced from their location in the room. You can also find a 
particular object by placing an audio beacon on it. We are keen to hear your 
feedback on this early experiment, and invite you to work with us as we 
explore this new area together with the community. • On iPhone 12 Pro and 
Pro Max, the haptic proximity sensor enables you to point the LiDAR scanner 
and feel the distance to things around you • The main screen has been 
visually redesigned to improve contrast and widen the camera's field of 
view • Improvements to image descriptions on the Scene channel, and when 
browsing photos on your phone • Improved text recognition accuracy on the 
Document channel • Seeing AI is now available in seven additional languages: 
Czech, Danish, Finnish, Greek, Hungarian, Polish, and Swedish • Plus, 
various bug fixes under the hood, Version 4.0 • 234.5 MB


Richard

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Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
when I was young."

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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-23 Thread Fazil
Agree, specially when we have several options  are available around for free.

 

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Envision is simply not worth the money in my opinion.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Go

Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-23 Thread Arlene
Thank you, for telling about your experiences with the glass, way too expensive 
for me. As much as I appreciate all the scanning apps, and also scanning 
software for the computer, it would be really wonderful if being able to read 
the experation dates on products could be done or worked on. Possibly there may 
be something I'm not aware of, for example if any of the scanning apps or even 
softward can read the experation dates, that again I'm not aware of, and or 
there may be some technical reason why it's not possible. Though I wish being 
able to read the experation dates could be possible and truly worked on. It's 
really, really important. Unfortunately even the scanners such as the id mate 
can't seem to read that information and it's very much needed information, even 
if you have some general knowledge of how long a product lasts, along with all 
the other important product information that can be read by the scanning apps, 
scanning software for the computer and the hand held scanners.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 
  From: kitty hevener 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:58 PM
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai


  Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

  With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such 
as chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

   

  Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

   

  I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

  So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

   

  Kitty,

  I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

   

  Thanks,

   

   

  Richard, in the U.S.

   

  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."

  "Why, what did she tell you?"

  "I don't know, I didn't listen."

  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

   

a.. I’m not the card shark
b.. My web site, www.turner42.com
   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
  Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

   

  

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-23 Thread Dennis Long
Envision is simply not worth the money in my opinion.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion,

Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-22 Thread Richard Turner
Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.
And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription.
Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.
Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:


Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow.
With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring environment.
So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Kitty,
I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

Thanks,


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cc7a2f70cbf2d4c9a752c08d8a707d4f8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442999365657320%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=9QLFNnXWCpSZvMeDobDXXXrsvNRsL72E%2FwlHAIGMDEM%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Richard, I am amazed at how much s

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-22 Thread kitty hevener
Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  

Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for h

Seeing AI update

2020-12-22 Thread Richard Turner
Seeing AI, Today, • The new World channel, available on devices with a LiDAR 
scanner running iOS 14, enables you to explore an unfamiliar space in 3D, using 
spatial audio. When wearing headphones, you will hear objects around you 
announced from their location in the room. You can also find a particular 
object by placing an audio beacon on it. We are keen to hear your feedback on 
this early experiment, and invite you to work with us as we explore this new 
area together with the community. • On iPhone 12 Pro and Pro Max, the haptic 
proximity sensor enables you to point the LiDAR scanner and feel the distance 
to things around you • The main screen has been visually redesigned to improve 
contrast and widen the camera's field of view • Improvements to image 
descriptions on the Scene channel, and when browsing photos on your phone • 
Improved text recognition accuracy on the Document channel • Seeing AI is now 
available in seven additional languages: Czech, Danish, Finnish, Greek, 
Hungarian, Polish, and Swedish • Plus, various bug fixes under the hood, 
Version 4.0 • 234.5 MB

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-22 Thread Richard Turner
Kitty,
I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

Thanks,


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that envision 
ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly subscription of 
around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent years.  That seems 
kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than seeing ai?  How?
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-18 Thread Joe Orozco
I purchased a year subscription to Envision. I don’t think the quality
is as good as Seeing AI. Mind you, I’m referring to short text. I have
not tested out Envision on documents. I mostly bought the subscription
to show my support of their efforts. Somehow I missed the memo on
SuperSense or would have given them a try.

Joe


On 12/18/20, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> Hello,
> I have both envision and seeing A I on my phone. I use the Dexcom G6 and
> Seeing A I reads the code just fine for me. For me I find that Seeing A I
> reads short text better than does Envision. I was lucky enough to have
> purchased Envision last year when they had a big sale on the lifetime
> purchase. It was probably one of the best purchases I have made on my
> iPhone. It works quite well when scanning documents.
>
> Greg Wocher
>
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image
>> recognition is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me
>> where Envision Ai beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition.
>> I use this to identify codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors
>> sensor used for  pairing to the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code.
>> Envision Ai picks it up and reads it to me on the first try every time. I
>> also have the Envision glasses… They are great assuming you have an active
>> internet connection. They are comfortable and easy to pair to the phone
>> for updates and set up. I won’t get into the glasses to much as that’s off
>> topic.
>>
>> Ed Worrell
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read
>>> with Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to
>>> find out what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess
>>> the thing that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable
>>> glasses and all that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a
>>> virtual demo tomorrow.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>>>
>>> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than
>>> Seeing AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and
>>> has a different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a
>>> combination of Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
>>> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems
>>> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the
>>> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you
>>> can do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy
>>> it since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm
>>> thinking about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
>>> mother told me when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that
>>>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly
>>>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for
>>>> subsequent years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it
>>>> significantly better than seeing ai?  How?
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-18 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello,
I have both envision and seeing A I on my phone. I use the Dexcom G6 and Seeing 
A I reads the code just fine for me. For me I find that Seeing A I reads short 
text better than does Envision. I was lucky enough to have purchased Envision 
last year when they had a big sale on the lifetime purchase. It was probably 
one of the best purchases I have made on my iPhone. It works quite well when 
scanning documents.

Greg Wocher

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image 
> recognition is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where 
> Envision Ai beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use 
> this to identify codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor 
> used for  pairing to the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision 
> Ai picks it up and reads it to me on the first try every time. I also have 
> the Envision glasses… They are great assuming you have an active internet 
> connection. They are comfortable and easy to pair to the phone for updates 
> and set up. I won’t get into the glasses to much as that’s off topic.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read 
>> with Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to 
>> find out what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the 
>> thing that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and 
>> all that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo 
>> tomorrow.  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>> 
>> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
>> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
>> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
>> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
>> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
>> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
>> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
>> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it 
>> since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking 
>> about it. 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
>>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for 
>>> subsequent years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly 
>>> better than seeing ai?  How?
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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-18 Thread Richard Turner
Have you tried Supersense on your meter?
I'd be very curious if it worked.

Especially given that it has a one time purchase option for around $50 right 
now.




Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:06 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Hello All,

I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image recognition 
is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where Envision Ai 
beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use this to identify 
codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor used for  pairing to 
the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision Ai picks it up and reads 
it to me on the first try every time. I also have the Envision glasses… They 
are great assuming you have an active internet connection. They are comfortable 
and easy to pair to the phone for updates and set up. I won’t get into the 
glasses to much as that’s off topic.

Ed Worrell
   

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
> Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
> what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing 
> that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all 
> that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>  
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since 
> I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about 
> it. 
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent 
>> years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than 
>> seeing ai?  How?
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-18 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello All,

I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image recognition 
is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where Envision Ai 
beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use this to identify 
codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor used for  pairing to 
the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision Ai picks it up and reads 
it to me on the first try every time. I also have the Envision glasses… They 
are great assuming you have an active internet connection. They are comfortable 
and easy to pair to the phone for updates and set up. I won’t get into the 
glasses to much as that’s off topic.

Ed Worrell
   

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
> Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
> what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing 
> that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all 
> that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>  
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since 
> I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about 
> it. 
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent 
>> years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than 
>> seeing ai?  How?
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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-17 Thread kitty hevener
Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  

Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it. 

 

Richard

 

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airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





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Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that envision 
ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly subscription of 
around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent years.  That seems 
kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than seeing ai?  How?

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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-17 Thread Shane Lowe
Hi Richard and all,
Thank you for the mention. I would be happy to answer any questions
you may have about the Supersense app.
We have also just received great news, which is that our research and
development department will be continuing our partnership with the
National Science Foundation. This means that the features you have
been requesting for Supersense will be developed much faster. :)


On 12/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it
> since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking
> about it.
>
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
> when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>
> 
> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that
> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

2020-12-17 Thread Richard Turner
I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it.


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Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that envision 
ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly subscription of 
around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent years.  That seems 
kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than seeing ai?  How?

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