Voice dream reader update

[Richard Turner]

For those using Voice Dream Reader, the updates to the stand-alone scanner app 
have now ben incorporated into Voice Dream Reader. Here is the blurb from the 
app store:
Voice Dream Reader, Today, - Voice Dream can now recognize multi-column 
documents and order the text correctly. Also, Chinese is now supported for the 
built-in OCR Scanner. To recognize Chinese, set it explicitly in settings 
rather than using “Auto-Detect”. - Fix an issue with loading Web content 
(Safari, Instapaper, Pocket) introduced in iOS 15.1. - Minor enhancements and 
bug fixes., Version 4.14.0 • 



Richard

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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[dani pagador]

I know money is precious, especially these days. But IMHO, I don't
mind having gotten the apps separately. Winston's costs are
reasonable, and he's made sure over the years to make sure the apps
have kept up with IOS development, and we're not charged for updates
at all. Not a steal. More like a really really great deal.
I'll go look at this new added feature now.
Thanks,
Dani

On 1/11/21, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> Yes. I've the two apps. Weird! because I just checked and the Scan button is
> no longer there! I too need to go into Add as you mentioned, with the first
> Button being Scan.
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>
>> El 11 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:00 a.m., Richard Turner
>>  escribió:
>>
>> Very interesting.  I do not find that scan button.
>> Do you also have the separate scanner app?
>> I have both and the only way I can scan within Voice Dream Reader is to do
>> the add button, then scanner.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes
>> scanning
>>
>> On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's
>> a Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as
>> you'd be if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I
>> seem to have vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the
>> separate VDR Scanner app?
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>
>>> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner
>>>  escribió:
>>>
>>> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel
>>> like I got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app
>>> all this time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted
>>> severl times in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be
>>> beneficial for quick scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point
>>> it at a document, piece of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a
>>> result.
>>> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then
>>> select scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan
>>> done.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
>>> mother told me when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to
>>>> give permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream
>>>> apps as seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better
>>>> off had we waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to
>>>> the stand alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you
>>>>> select add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the
>>>>> camera. It has the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does
>>>>> not import those settings so if the default is not what you want, you
>>>>> can change them right there.
>>>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which
>>>>> is completely accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in
>>>>> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
>>>>> asphyxiation in dee

Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Gerardo Corripio]

Yes. I've the two apps. Weird! because I just checked and the Scan button is no 
longer there! I too need to go into Add as you mentioned, with the first Button 
being Scan.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 11 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:00 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Very interesting.  I do not find that scan button.
> Do you also have the separate scanner app?
> I have both and the only way I can scan within Voice Dream Reader is to do 
> the add button, then scanner.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning
> 
> On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a 
> Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd be 
> if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to 
> have vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate VDR 
> Scanner app?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like 
>> I got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
>> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
>> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
>> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
>> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result.
>> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then 
>> select scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan 
>> done. 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to 
>>> give permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps 
>>> as seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It 
>>>> has the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>>> there. 
>>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>>> completely accessible. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>>> when I was young."
>>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>> 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Richard Turner]

Very interesting.  I do not find that scan button.
Do you also have the separate scanner app?
I have both and the only way I can scan within Voice Dream Reader is to do the 
add button, then scanner.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a 
Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd be 
if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to have 
vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate VDR 
Scanner app?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
> got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
> scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
>> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
>> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>> there. 
>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>> completely accessible. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[lenron brown]

As much as I don't scan things. I am not going to be upset about
waiting a few extra seconds. So I will take this added feature in
voice dream. It's the only app by the devs over there I have.

On 1/11/21, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a
> Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd
> be if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to
> have vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate
> VDR Scanner app?
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>
>> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner
>>  escribió:
>>
>> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel
>> like I got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app
>> all this time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted
>> severl times in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be
>> beneficial for quick scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point
>> it at a document, piece of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a
>> result.
>> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then
>> select scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan
>> done.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>
>>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to
>>> give permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps
>>> as seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had
>>> we waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the
>>> stand alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:

 As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select
 add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It
 has the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import
 those settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change
 them right there.
 It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is
 completely accessible.


 Richard

 "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
 Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
 asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
 mother told me when I was young."
 "Why, what did she tell you?"
 "I don't know, I didn't listen."
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Gerardo Corripio]

On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a 
Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd be 
if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to have 
vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate VDR 
Scanner app?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
> got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
> scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
>> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
>> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>> there. 
>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>> completely accessible. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Mary Otten]

I totally agree, richard. In fact, since I have the scanning app and the 
reader, I don’t think the addition of the scanner to the reader is going to do 
anything for us who have the reader. Is there a difference between the reader 
that had the scanning functionality in it already, as in with a PDF when you 
load it in and it’s an image. I guess there is, because this let you scan 
documents that you haven’t loaded in yet? Anyway, I was fine with it the way it 
was.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
> got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
> scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
>> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
>> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>> there. 
>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>> completely accessible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Richard Turner]

I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this time 
for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times in 
various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick scans. 
With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece of mail, 
whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand alone 
> VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>> there. 
>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>> completely accessible. 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Cris Ali]

I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as seprate 
apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we waited, unless 
the developer plans to add premium features to the stand alone VoiceDream 
scanner. We shall wait and see!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select add, 
> then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has the 
> same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those settings 
> so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right there. 
> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
> completely accessible. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
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Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Richard Turner]

As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select add, 
then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has the same 
settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those settings so if 
the default is not what you want, you can change them right there. 
It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
completely accessible. 


Richard

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Re: Voice Dream Reader update

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Voice dream reader is totally awesome.

On 10/7/20, 'Danny Keys' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks, That’s good to know. I love VDR.
>
>
>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
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>> Winston just posted an update to Voice Dream Reader that fixes the search
>> results issue. It is back to normal.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update

['Danny Keys' via VIPhone]

Hi,
Thanks, That’s good to know. I love VDR.


> On Oct 7, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Richard Turner  
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> Winston just posted an update to Voice Dream Reader that fixes the search 
> results issue. It is back to normal.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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Voice Dream Reader update

[Richard Turner]

Winston just posted an update to Voice Dream Reader that fixes the search 
results issue. It is back to normal.




Richard
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Voice dream reader update successful

[Mary Otten]

Since I have had some fairly serious disappointments with certain upgrades of 
this app in the past, I thought I would report that I finally bit the bullet 
and updated to the latest version just now. Apparently, everything went well. I 
had to do it, because when my new iPhone comes next week, it’s going to install 
the latest version, which would not be compatible with my current library. So 
it looks like all’s well that ends well.
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Re: Latest Voice Dream Reader update seems to have fixed my library issue!

[englishrider91]

Lol don't tempt me. If I left it alone, it eventually fixed itself after a 
minute, but it seems to be consistantly happening when I leave the phone alone 
for a bit and then try to find the pause button by touch.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 10:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I really wonder if this is a ram issue on older devices. My iPad mini two is 
> well. I saw an article recently referring to it as having only one gigabyte 
> of RAM. I can’t verify that of course. If that’s true, I suppose it makes 
> sense that with the slower processor and limited ram, once you get into big 
> files, trouble occurs. I couldn’t even synch my library with the iPad just 
> sitting idol. It would just lock up and die basically. I wonder if that same 
> thing isn’t happening with your phone. I don’t remember what chip is in your 
> phone as compared to my iPad. But you might want to just leave the phone open 
> and let everything sync up and say hallelujah. And then get a new phone. Sigh.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 7:06 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Oh, good grief! I spoke too soon, it seems. I opened a giant e-pub, and it 
>> started locking up on me again. It would just stop reading and VO acted like 
>> there were no items on the screen. Sorry, everyone. This is so frustrating!
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
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>>> Mary, I'm running an iPhone 6S and nothing else, but I wanted to keep my 
>>> library synced in case I got a new iPhone. We'll see how well things work 
>>> out in the next few days, but for now, I'm very pleased! :) 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
 On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 This is interesting. What device or devices do you have with this big 
 library? I have an iPhone 7 Plus. I also have an old iPad Mini too. But I 
 totally disconnected that from anything to do with iCloud and vdr.. So my 
 iPhone library is the big one that is kept up-to-date. I have a few books 
 on the iPad. But I have little faith that my old old iPad would manage 
 sinking this big library, even with the new version. I’m pretty sure that 
 this iPad needs to be totally decommissioned, even though it seems a 
 little bit snappier with the new iOS 12. It’s still bogs down if you get 
 into a book on Voice Dream and start navigating by headings.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello, everyone,
> 
> 
> I'm currently waiting with bated breath for something to go drastically 
> wrong, but it looks like my issues with Voice Dream Reader freezing up 
> totally have been fixed! I have a huge library, and VDR is always syncing 
> things, and when it's doing this, the app often locks up to the point 
> where it, along with VO, are totally unresponsive, necessitating closing 
> the app in the app switcher and praying that I have better luck upon 
> relaunching it. This seems to have been fixed with the latest update. 
> When I updated VDR just now and opened it, it popped up a dialogue 
> letting me know that it was updating my library. When that was finished, 
> I flicked around like mad, trying to get it to crash, but nothing. I even 
> opened a book and started reading it, then paused it and went back to the 
> library; before, something like that would have made it crash for me as 
> it started syncing my updated position, but that no longer seems to be 
> the case. We'll see how things go over the next few days.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
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Re: Latest Voice Dream Reader update seems to have fixed my library issue!

[Mary Otten]

I really wonder if this is a ram issue on older devices. My iPad mini two is 
well. I saw an article recently referring to it as having only one gigabyte of 
RAM. I can’t verify that of course. If that’s true, I suppose it makes sense 
that with the slower processor and limited ram, once you get into big files, 
trouble occurs. I couldn’t even synch my library with the iPad just sitting 
idol. It would just lock up and die basically. I wonder if that same thing 
isn’t happening with your phone. I don’t remember what chip is in your phone as 
compared to my iPad. But you might want to just leave the phone open and let 
everything sync up and say hallelujah. And then get a new phone. Sigh.
Mary


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> On Sep 18, 2018, at 7:06 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Oh, good grief! I spoke too soon, it seems. I opened a giant e-pub, and it 
> started locking up on me again. It would just stop reading and VO acted like 
> there were no items on the screen. Sorry, everyone. This is so frustrating!
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:59 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, I'm running an iPhone 6S and nothing else, but I wanted to keep my 
>> library synced in case I got a new iPhone. We'll see how well things work 
>> out in the next few days, but for now, I'm very pleased! :) 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is interesting. What device or devices do you have with this big 
>>> library? I have an iPhone 7 Plus. I also have an old iPad Mini too. But I 
>>> totally disconnected that from anything to do with iCloud and vdr.. So my 
>>> iPhone library is the big one that is kept up-to-date. I have a few books 
>>> on the iPad. But I have little faith that my old old iPad would manage 
>>> sinking this big library, even with the new version. I’m pretty sure that 
>>> this iPad needs to be totally decommissioned, even though it seems a little 
>>> bit snappier with the new iOS 12. It’s still bogs down if you get into a 
>>> book on Voice Dream and start navigating by headings.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, everyone,
 
 
 I'm currently waiting with bated breath for something to go drastically 
 wrong, but it looks like my issues with Voice Dream Reader freezing up 
 totally have been fixed! I have a huge library, and VDR is always syncing 
 things, and when it's doing this, the app often locks up to the point 
 where it, along with VO, are totally unresponsive, necessitating closing 
 the app in the app switcher and praying that I have better luck upon 
 relaunching it. This seems to have been fixed with the latest update. When 
 I updated VDR just now and opened it, it popped up a dialogue letting me 
 know that it was updating my library. When that was finished, I flicked 
 around like mad, trying to get it to crash, but nothing. I even opened a 
 book and started reading it, then paused it and went back to the library; 
 before, something like that would have made it crash for me as it started 
 syncing my updated position, but that no longer seems to be the case. 
 We'll see how things go over the next few days.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
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Re: Latest Voice Dream Reader update seems to have fixed my library issue!

[englishrider91]

Oh, good grief! I spoke too soon, it seems. I opened a giant e-pub, and it 
started locking up on me again. It would just stop reading and VO acted like 
there were no items on the screen. Sorry, everyone. This is so frustrating!


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:59 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mary, I'm running an iPhone 6S and nothing else, but I wanted to keep my 
> library synced in case I got a new iPhone. We'll see how well things work out 
> in the next few days, but for now, I'm very pleased! :) 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> This is interesting. What device or devices do you have with this big 
>> library? I have an iPhone 7 Plus. I also have an old iPad Mini too. But I 
>> totally disconnected that from anything to do with iCloud and vdr.. So my 
>> iPhone library is the big one that is kept up-to-date. I have a few books on 
>> the iPad. But I have little faith that my old old iPad would manage sinking 
>> this big library, even with the new version. I’m pretty sure that this iPad 
>> needs to be totally decommissioned, even though it seems a little bit 
>> snappier with the new iOS 12. It’s still bogs down if you get into a book on 
>> Voice Dream and start navigating by headings.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm currently waiting with bated breath for something to go drastically 
>>> wrong, but it looks like my issues with Voice Dream Reader freezing up 
>>> totally have been fixed! I have a huge library, and VDR is always syncing 
>>> things, and when it's doing this, the app often locks up to the point where 
>>> it, along with VO, are totally unresponsive, necessitating closing the app 
>>> in the app switcher and praying that I have better luck upon relaunching 
>>> it. This seems to have been fixed with the latest update. When I updated 
>>> VDR just now and opened it, it popped up a dialogue letting me know that it 
>>> was updating my library. When that was finished, I flicked around like mad, 
>>> trying to get it to crash, but nothing. I even opened a book and started 
>>> reading it, then paused it and went back to the library; before, something 
>>> like that would have made it crash for me as it started syncing my updated 
>>> position, but that no longer seems to be the case. We'll see how things go 
>>> over the next few days.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
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Re: Latest Voice Dream Reader update seems to have fixed my library issue!

[Mary Otten]

Awesome! And I think you were one who had a library that’s even bigger than 
mine. So maybe I should just bite the bullet, pray, light some incense or 
candles or whatever, and do the upgrade. Smile.
Mary


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> On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:59 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Mary, I'm running an iPhone 6S and nothing else, but I wanted to keep my 
> library synced in case I got a new iPhone. We'll see how well things work out 
> in the next few days, but for now, I'm very pleased! :) 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> This is interesting. What device or devices do you have with this big 
>> library? I have an iPhone 7 Plus. I also have an old iPad Mini too. But I 
>> totally disconnected that from anything to do with iCloud and vdr.. So my 
>> iPhone library is the big one that is kept up-to-date. I have a few books on 
>> the iPad. But I have little faith that my old old iPad would manage sinking 
>> this big library, even with the new version. I’m pretty sure that this iPad 
>> needs to be totally decommissioned, even though it seems a little bit 
>> snappier with the new iOS 12. It’s still bogs down if you get into a book on 
>> Voice Dream and start navigating by headings.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, everyone,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm currently waiting with bated breath for something to go drastically 
>>> wrong, but it looks like my issues with Voice Dream Reader freezing up 
>>> totally have been fixed! I have a huge library, and VDR is always syncing 
>>> things, and when it's doing this, the app often locks up to the point where 
>>> it, along with VO, are totally unresponsive, necessitating closing the app 
>>> in the app switcher and praying that I have better luck upon relaunching 
>>> it. This seems to have been fixed with the latest update. When I updated 
>>> VDR just now and opened it, it popped up a dialogue letting me know that it 
>>> was updating my library. When that was finished, I flicked around like mad, 
>>> trying to get it to crash, but nothing. I even opened a book and started 
>>> reading it, then paused it and went back to the library; before, something 
>>> like that would have made it crash for me as it started syncing my updated 
>>> position, but that no longer seems to be the case. We'll see how things go 
>>> over the next few days.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
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Re: Latest Voice Dream Reader update seems to have fixed my library issue!

[englishrider91]

Mary, I'm running an iPhone 6S and nothing else, but I wanted to keep my 
library synced in case I got a new iPhone. We'll see how well things work out 
in the next few days, but for now, I'm very pleased! :) 


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> This is interesting. What device or devices do you have with this big 
> library? I have an iPhone 7 Plus. I also have an old iPad Mini too. But I 
> totally disconnected that from anything to do with iCloud and vdr.. So my 
> iPhone library is the big one that is kept up-to-date. I have a few books on 
> the iPad. But I have little faith that my old old iPad would manage sinking 
> this big library, even with the new version. I’m pretty sure that this iPad 
> needs to be totally decommissioned, even though it seems a little bit 
> snappier with the new iOS 12. It’s still bogs down if you get into a book on 
> Voice Dream and start navigating by headings.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I'm currently waiting with bated breath for something to go drastically 
>> wrong, but it looks like my issues with Voice Dream Reader freezing up 
>> totally have been fixed! I have a huge library, and VDR is always syncing 
>> things, and when it's doing this, the app often locks up to the point where 
>> it, along with VO, are totally unresponsive, necessitating closing the app 
>> in the app switcher and praying that I have better luck upon relaunching it. 
>> This seems to have been fixed with the latest update. When I updated VDR 
>> just now and opened it, it popped up a dialogue letting me know that it was 
>> updating my library. When that was finished, I flicked around like mad, 
>> trying to get it to crash, but nothing. I even opened a book and started 
>> reading it, then paused it and went back to the library; before, something 
>> like that would have made it crash for me as it started syncing my updated 
>> position, but that no longer seems to be the case. We'll see how things go 
>> over the next few days.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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Re: Latest Voice Dream Reader update seems to have fixed my library issue!

[Mary Otten]

This is interesting. What device or devices do you have with this big library? 
I have an iPhone 7 Plus. I also have an old iPad Mini too. But I totally 
disconnected that from anything to do with iCloud and vdr.. So my iPhone 
library is the big one that is kept up-to-date. I have a few books on the iPad. 
But I have little faith that my old old iPad would manage sinking this big 
library, even with the new version. I’m pretty sure that this iPad needs to be 
totally decommissioned, even though it seems a little bit snappier with the new 
iOS 12. It’s still bogs down if you get into a book on Voice Dream and start 
navigating by headings.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:48 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello, everyone,
> 
> 
> I'm currently waiting with bated breath for something to go drastically 
> wrong, but it looks like my issues with Voice Dream Reader freezing up 
> totally have been fixed! I have a huge library, and VDR is always syncing 
> things, and when it's doing this, the app often locks up to the point where 
> it, along with VO, are totally unresponsive, necessitating closing the app in 
> the app switcher and praying that I have better luck upon relaunching it. 
> This seems to have been fixed with the latest update. When I updated VDR just 
> now and opened it, it popped up a dialogue letting me know that it was 
> updating my library. When that was finished, I flicked around like mad, 
> trying to get it to crash, but nothing. I even opened a book and started 
> reading it, then paused it and went back to the library; before, something 
> like that would have made it crash for me as it started syncing my updated 
> position, but that no longer seems to be the case. We'll see how things go 
> over the next few days.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Latest Voice Dream Reader update seems to have fixed my library issue!

[englishrider91]

Hello, everyone,


I'm currently waiting with bated breath for something to go drastically wrong, 
but it looks like my issues with Voice Dream Reader freezing up totally have 
been fixed! I have a huge library, and VDR is always syncing things, and when 
it's doing this, the app often locks up to the point where it, along with VO, 
are totally unresponsive, necessitating closing the app in the app switcher and 
praying that I have better luck upon relaunching it. This seems to have been 
fixed with the latest update. When I updated VDR just now and opened it, it 
popped up a dialogue letting me know that it was updating my library. When that 
was finished, I flicked around like mad, trying to get it to crash, but 
nothing. I even opened a book and started reading it, then paused it and went 
back to the library; before, something like that would have made it crash for 
me as it started syncing my updated position, but that no longer seems to be 
the case. We'll see how things go over the next few days.


Thanks,
Ari

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Re: Voice dream reader update

[Dana Leet]

Hello everyone, I wanted to mention one thing I noticed with the new update a 
voice dream reader. Today, I was searching for a book in my collection, and it 
did that correctly, but when I hit cancel, it did not bring me back to my main 
library. The only way I ended up fixing it, was going into the options where 
you can sort your books, and I had to select by add date again in order for it 
to go back to Slette me see all of my books. Didn’t know if anyone else was 
ever experiencing this but thought I would let you know what I had to do to fix 
it. 


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> On Sep 18, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Marie N.  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this. I truly thought I had tried everything to delete the books 
> but apparently I was wrong. Bad as I hate admitting it, I sometimes do err.
> Thanks again.
> Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 8:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update
> 
> Deleting works fine, but there is one additional step which was introduced, 
> probably by accident, but it is perfectly accessible. Here is how it works:
> 
> After you activate the "master delete" as I like to call it at the top, one 
> swipe to the left of Refresh, swipe to your book title, then left once to 
> delete. Double tap it and then another delete button shows up and you again 
> swipe left once to get to it, double tap it and the book will be deleted.
> I think at one point for a short time a delete option was available on the 
> rotor and I think Audible really should put delete and other actions such as 
> Book Details, Mark as Finished and so on in the rotor for Voiceover users, it 
> would be a much better and more consistent experience. But as I said, it 
> still works.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
> N.
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
> 
> Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
> verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
> deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I am 
> running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the problem 
> exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not yet fixed 
> it, so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible extensively 
> and need to be able to delete.
> Marie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update
> 
> I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
> saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
> improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it refers 
> to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and developers 
> who have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps have 
> continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has been 
> good for many years and there are lots of others.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
> 
> Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing 
> out there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to 
> rebuild this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other 
> than the ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m interested 
> to know what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I go to iOS 12? 
> It didn’t say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I have and can 
> still upgrade to the new iOS.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
>> She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational
>> structure was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice.
>> I think she may have also lost some files and had to track them down
>> ag

Re: Voice dream reader update

[Marie N.]

Thanks for this. I truly thought I had tried everything to delete the books 
but apparently I was wrong. Bad as I hate admitting it, I sometimes do err.

Thanks again.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update

Deleting works fine, but there is one additional step which was introduced, 
probably by accident, but it is perfectly accessible. Here is how it works:


After you activate the "master delete" as I like to call it at the top, one 
swipe to the left of Refresh, swipe to your book title, then left once to 
delete. Double tap it and then another delete button shows up and you again 
swipe left once to get to it, double tap it and the book will be deleted.
I think at one point for a short time a delete option was available on the 
rotor and I think Audible really should put delete and other actions such as 
Book Details, Mark as Finished and so on in the rotor for Voiceover users, 
it would be a much better and more consistent experience. But as I said, it 
still works.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
N.

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I 
am running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the 
problem exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not yet 
fixed it, so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible 
extensively and need to be able to delete.

Marie

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update

I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it 
refers to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and 
developers who have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps 
have continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has 
been good for many years and there are lots of others.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing 
out there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to 
rebuild this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other 
than the ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m 
interested to know what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I 
go to iOS 12? It didn’t say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I 
have and can still upgrade to the new iOS.




Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner

wrote:

Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational
structure was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice.
I think she may have also lost some files and had to track them down
again.
So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is
not interested in.
If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was
something else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her
library will not get screwed up yet again.

As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.
The fact that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second
time of having to rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice
Dream is compared to all other apps of its kind.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Devin Prater
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

No, I must disagree there. Updates, especially for app makers like
Voice Dream, LLC, who strive to make accessible apps, will not usually
break accessibility, because they have good Beta testers, and probably
test the updates with VoiceOver themselves. Please try not to spread
fear, uncertainty, and doubt about updating most apps. Sure, apps like
Messenger have had major problems in the past, but that's because of
arrogant Facebook not taking accessibility seriously, in my opinion. .

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Service

RE: Voice dream reader update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have  you tried a reset Network settigs, this can often fix battery issues very 
efficiently.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kelby 
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 8:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

I am not speaking in terms of accessibility only. Frequently when updating an 
app, a feature that worked perfectly fine will be gone or messed up. For 
example, after the last VDR update the "go to page" button disappeared for no 
reason and never came back, and VDR now drains the battery significantly in the 
background even when not reading a book, requiring it to be closed completely 
when not in use. I have reported these bugs, and for doing so I was told never 
to contact the developer again. (Before anyone asks, I did try a complete 
reinstall with no change.)

This is not exclusive to VDR, so I'm not targeting it specifically. This has 
happened with almost every app I frequently use at some point, not to mention 
that major iOS updates are also likely to introduce bugs, accessibility and 
otherwise.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'Paul Porter' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> You can delete in the app.
> 
> Tap delete. Next tap the delete button to the left of the book you want to 
> delete. two delete buttons appear. Press the furtherst left and the book is 
> deleted. Press delete again to go back to the list of books without the 
> delete option.
> 
> I hope this makes sense.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17 Sep 2018, at 15:57, Marie N.  wrote:
>> 
>> Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
>> verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
>> deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I 
>> am running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the 
>> problem exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not yet 
>> fixed it, so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible 
>> extensively and need to be able to delete.
>> Marie
>> 
>> -Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update
>> 
>> I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
>> saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
>> improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it 
>> refers to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and 
>> developers who have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps 
>> have continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has 
>> been good for many years and there are lots of others.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
>> 
>> Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing 
>> out there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to 
>> rebuild this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other 
>> than the ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m 
>> interested to know what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I 
>> go to iOS 12? It didn’t say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I 
>> have and can still upgrade to the new iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
>>> She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational structure 
>>> was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice. I think 
>>> she may have also lost some files and had to track them down again.
>>> So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
>>> interested in.
>>> If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was 
>>> something else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her 
>>> library will not get screwed up yet again.
>>> 
>>> As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.  The 
>>> fact that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second time of 
>>> having to rebuild a huge library says a lot for h

Re: Voice dream reader update

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree with Devin and Sieghard. I do have a bit of apprehension every 
time an app or an application gets updated, wondering if accessibility 
will be impacted or not, but I don't think this happens frequently or 
even more often then not, at least not across all apps and applications. 
Sure Facebook has a reputation and the screen reader developers are 
always working to keep up with iTunes, but there are definitely apps out 
there where the developers are committed to accessibility or the 
interface is just so clean and well designed. Sure we remember every 
time we update an app and accessibility takes a step backwards, but we 
don't always remember all of the times when the upgrade went smoothly 
and just gave us access to a handful of new useful features.



On 09/17/2018 10:45 AM, kelby carlson wrote:

I am not speaking in terms of accessibility only. Frequently when updating an app, a 
feature that worked perfectly fine will be gone or messed up. For example, after the last 
VDR update the "go to page" button disappeared for no reason and never came 
back, and VDR now drains the battery significantly in the background even when not 
reading a book, requiring it to be closed completely when not in use. I have reported 
these bugs, and for doing so I was told never to contact the developer again. (Before 
anyone asks, I did try a complete reinstall with no change.)

This is not exclusive to VDR, so I'm not targeting it specifically. This has 
happened with almost every app I frequently use at some point, not to mention 
that major iOS updates are also likely to introduce bugs, accessibility and 
otherwise.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'Paul Porter' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

You can delete in the app.

Tap delete. Next tap the delete button to the left of the book you want to 
delete. two delete buttons appear. Press the furtherst left and the book is 
deleted. Press delete again to go back to the list of books without the delete 
option.

I hope this makes sense.

Paul

Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Sep 2018, at 15:57, Marie N.  wrote:

Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I am 
running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the problem 
exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not yet fixed it, 
so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible extensively and 
need to be able to delete.
Marie

-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update

I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in saying that the 
statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as improve it" is a bit broad. 
Typically when the word "break" is used it refers to accessibility and definitely there 
are a lot of companies and developers who have prooven that accessibility is important and their 
apps have continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has been good for many 
years and there are lots of others.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing out 
there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to rebuild 
this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other than the 
ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m interested to know 
what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I go to iOS 12? It didn’t 
say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I have and can still upgrade 
to the new iOS.



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational structure was 
corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice. I think she may 
have also lost some files and had to track them down again.
So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
interested in.
If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was something 
else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her library will not 
get screwed up yet again.

As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.  The fact 
that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second time of having to 
rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice Dream is compared to all 
other apps of its kind.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah P

Re: Voice dream reader update

[kelby carlson]

For some reason I'm not seeing the update in the app store. Are we still 
waiting for it?

Does anyone else have the "go to page" button, or was it removed for everybody?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I too have used VDR in the background, even while reading, with no greater 
> battery drain than before. If the device is locked, and playing in the 
> background, there is extremely little battery drain. I've listened for more 
> hours than I care to admit and lost only a couple percent.
> I think that issue is unique to very few devices.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right 
> place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - Dorothy 
> Nevill
> 
> 
> [Sent from my little hand-held computer]
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> I certainly have not noticed any significant battery drainage I have VDR 
>> open but not reading, so it’s in the background just hanging around. So 
>> maybe they can’t duplicate it. If they can’t duplicate it, unfortunately 
>> they can’t fix it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 8:45 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not speaking in terms of accessibility only. Frequently when updating 
>>> an app, a feature that worked perfectly fine will be gone or messed up. For 
>>> example, after the last VDR update the "go to page" button disappeared for 
>>> no reason and never came back, and VDR now drains the battery significantly 
>>> in the background even when not reading a book, requiring it to be closed 
>>> completely when not in use. I have reported these bugs, and for doing so I 
>>> was told never to contact the developer again. (Before anyone asks, I did 
>>> try a complete reinstall with no change.)
>>> 
>>> This is not exclusive to VDR, so I'm not targeting it specifically. This 
>>> has happened with almost every app I frequently use at some point, not to 
>>> mention that major iOS updates are also likely to introduce bugs, 
>>> accessibility and otherwise.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'Paul Porter' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You can delete in the app.
>>>> 
>>>> Tap delete. Next tap the delete button to the left of the book you want to 
>>>> delete. two delete buttons appear. Press the furtherst left and the book 
>>>> is deleted. Press delete again to go back to the list of books without the 
>>>> delete option.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this makes sense.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Sep 2018, at 15:57, Marie N.  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
>>>>> verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method 
>>>>> for deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not 
>>>>> work. I am running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and 
>>>>> the problem exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have 
>>>>> not yet fixed it, so please send them feedback on the problem. I used 
>>>>> Audible extensively and need to be able to delete.
>>>>> Marie
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct 
>>>>> in saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the 
>>>>> app as improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is 
>>>>> used it refers to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of 
>>>>> companies and developers who have prooven that accessibility is important 
>>>>> and their apps have continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one 
>>>>> example, Audible has been good for many years and there are lots of 
>>>>> others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Me

Re: Voice dream reader update

[Richard Turner]

I too have used VDR in the background, even while reading, with no greater 
battery drain than before. If the device is locked, and playing in the 
background, there is extremely little battery drain. I've listened for more 
hours than I care to admit and lost only a couple percent.
I think that issue is unique to very few devices.
Richard



"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right 
place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - Dorothy 
Nevill



[Sent from my little hand-held computer]


On Sep 17, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I certainly have not noticed any significant battery drainage I have VDR open 
but not reading, so it’s in the background just hanging around. So maybe they 
can’t duplicate it. If they can’t duplicate it, unfortunately they can’t fix it.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2018, at 8:45 AM, kelby carlson 
mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I am not speaking in terms of accessibility only. Frequently when updating an 
app, a feature that worked perfectly fine will be gone or messed up. For 
example, after the last VDR update the "go to page" button disappeared for no 
reason and never came back, and VDR now drains the battery significantly in the 
background even when not reading a book, requiring it to be closed completely 
when not in use. I have reported these bugs, and for doing so I was told never 
to contact the developer again. (Before anyone asks, I did try a complete 
reinstall with no change.)

This is not exclusive to VDR, so I'm not targeting it specifically. This has 
happened with almost every app I frequently use at some point, not to mention 
that major iOS updates are also likely to introduce bugs, accessibility and 
otherwise.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'Paul Porter' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

You can delete in the app.

Tap delete. Next tap the delete button to the left of the book you want to 
delete. two delete buttons appear. Press the furtherst left and the book is 
deleted. Press delete again to go back to the list of books without the delete 
option.

I hope this makes sense.

Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Sep 2018, at 15:57, Marie N. 
mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I am 
running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the problem 
exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not yet fixed it, 
so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible extensively and 
need to be able to delete.
Marie

-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update

I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it refers 
to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and developers who 
have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps have continued to 
be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has been good for many 
years and there are lots of others.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing out 
there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to rebuild 
this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other than the 
ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m interested to know 
what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I go to iOS 12? It didn’t 
say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I have and can still upgrade 
to the new iOS.



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational structure was 
corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice. I think she may 
have also lost some files and had to track them down again.
So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
interested in.
If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was something 
else worth updatin

Re: Voice dream reader update

[Mary Otten]

I certainly have not noticed any significant battery drainage I have VDR open 
but not reading, so it’s in the background just hanging around. So maybe they 
can’t duplicate it. If they can’t duplicate it, unfortunately they can’t fix it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 8:45 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> I am not speaking in terms of accessibility only. Frequently when updating an 
> app, a feature that worked perfectly fine will be gone or messed up. For 
> example, after the last VDR update the "go to page" button disappeared for no 
> reason and never came back, and VDR now drains the battery significantly in 
> the background even when not reading a book, requiring it to be closed 
> completely when not in use. I have reported these bugs, and for doing so I 
> was told never to contact the developer again. (Before anyone asks, I did try 
> a complete reinstall with no change.)
> 
> This is not exclusive to VDR, so I'm not targeting it specifically. This has 
> happened with almost every app I frequently use at some point, not to mention 
> that major iOS updates are also likely to introduce bugs, accessibility and 
> otherwise.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'Paul Porter' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You can delete in the app.
>> 
>> Tap delete. Next tap the delete button to the left of the book you want to 
>> delete. two delete buttons appear. Press the furtherst left and the book is 
>> deleted. Press delete again to go back to the list of books without the 
>> delete option.
>> 
>> I hope this makes sense.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 17 Sep 2018, at 15:57, Marie N.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
>>> verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
>>> deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I 
>>> am running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the 
>>> problem exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not 
>>> yet fixed it, so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible 
>>> extensively and need to be able to delete.
>>> Marie
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update
>>> 
>>> I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
>>> saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
>>> improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it 
>>> refers to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and 
>>> developers who have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps 
>>> have continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has 
>>> been good for many years and there are lots of others.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
>>> 
>>> Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing 
>>> out there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to 
>>> rebuild this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other 
>>> than the ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m 
>>> interested to know what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I 
>>> go to iOS 12? It didn’t say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what 
>>> I have and can still upgrade to the new iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
>>>> She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational 
>>>> structure was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice. 
>>>> I think she may have also lost some files and had to track them down again.
>>>> So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
>>>> interested in.
>>>> If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear th

Re: Voice dream reader update

[kelby carlson]

I am not speaking in terms of accessibility only. Frequently when updating an 
app, a feature that worked perfectly fine will be gone or messed up. For 
example, after the last VDR update the "go to page" button disappeared for no 
reason and never came back, and VDR now drains the battery significantly in the 
background even when not reading a book, requiring it to be closed completely 
when not in use. I have reported these bugs, and for doing so I was told never 
to contact the developer again. (Before anyone asks, I did try a complete 
reinstall with no change.)

This is not exclusive to VDR, so I'm not targeting it specifically. This has 
happened with almost every app I frequently use at some point, not to mention 
that major iOS updates are also likely to introduce bugs, accessibility and 
otherwise.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, 'Paul Porter' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> You can delete in the app.
> 
> Tap delete. Next tap the delete button to the left of the book you want to 
> delete. two delete buttons appear. Press the furtherst left and the book is 
> deleted. Press delete again to go back to the list of books without the 
> delete option.
> 
> I hope this makes sense.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17 Sep 2018, at 15:57, Marie N.  wrote:
>> 
>> Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
>> verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
>> deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I 
>> am running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the 
>> problem exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not yet 
>> fixed it, so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible 
>> extensively and need to be able to delete.
>> Marie
>> 
>> -Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update
>> 
>> I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
>> saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
>> improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it 
>> refers to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and 
>> developers who have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps 
>> have continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has 
>> been good for many years and there are lots of others.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
>> 
>> Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing 
>> out there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to 
>> rebuild this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other 
>> than the ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m 
>> interested to know what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I 
>> go to iOS 12? It didn’t say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I 
>> have and can still upgrade to the new iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
>>> She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational structure 
>>> was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice. I think 
>>> she may have also lost some files and had to track them down again.
>>> So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
>>> interested in.
>>> If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was 
>>> something else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her 
>>> library will not get screwed up yet again.
>>> 
>>> As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.  The 
>>> fact that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second time of 
>>> having to rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice Dream is 
>>> compared to all other apps of its kind.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>

Re: Voice dream reader update

['Paul Porter' via VIPhone]

You can delete in the app.

Tap delete. Next tap the delete button to the left of the book you want to 
delete. two delete buttons appear. Press the furtherst left and the book is 
deleted. Press delete again to go back to the list of books without the delete 
option.

I hope this makes sense.

Paul

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Sep 2018, at 15:57, Marie N.  wrote:
> 
> Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
> verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
> deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I am 
> running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the problem 
> exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not yet fixed 
> it, so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible extensively 
> and need to be able to delete.
> Marie
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update
> 
> I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
> saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
> improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it refers 
> to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and developers 
> who have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps have 
> continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has been 
> good for many years and there are lots of others.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
> 
> Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing 
> out there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to 
> rebuild this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other 
> than the ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m interested 
> to know what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I go to iOS 12? 
> It didn’t say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I have and can 
> still upgrade to the new iOS.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
>> She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational structure 
>> was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice. I think she 
>> may have also lost some files and had to track them down again.
>> So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
>> interested in.
>> If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was 
>> something else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her 
>> library will not get screwed up yet again.
>> 
>> As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.  The fact 
>> that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second time of having to 
>> rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice Dream is compared to 
>> all other apps of its kind.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
>> Prater
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
>> 
>> No, I must disagree there. Updates, especially for app makers like Voice 
>> Dream, LLC, who strive to make accessible apps, will not usually break 
>> accessibility, because they have good Beta testers, and probably test the 
>> updates with VoiceOver themselves. Please try not to spread fear, 
>> uncertainty, and doubt about updating most apps. Sure, apps like Messenger 
>> have had major problems in the past, but that's because of arrogant Facebook 
>> not taking accessibility seriously, in my opinion. .
>> 
>> Devin Prater
>> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind 
>> JAWS certified
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 5:04 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Updates are just as likely to break the app as improve it. (This goes
>>> for all apps.)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:

RE: Voice dream reader update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Deleting works fine, but there is one additional step which was introduced, 
probably by accident, but it is perfectly accessible. Here is how it works:

After you activate the "master delete" as I like to call it at the top, one 
swipe to the left of Refresh, swipe to your book title, then left once to 
delete. Double tap it and then another delete button shows up and you again 
swipe left once to get to it, double tap it and the book will be deleted.
I think at one point for a short time a delete option was available on the 
rotor and I think Audible really should put delete and other actions such as 
Book Details, Mark as Finished and so on in the rotor for Voiceover users, it 
would be a much better and more consistent experience. But as I said, it still 
works.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I am 
running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the problem 
exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not yet fixed it, 
so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible extensively and 
need to be able to delete.
Marie

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update

I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it refers 
to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and developers who 
have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps have continued to 
be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has been good for many 
years and there are lots of others.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing out 
there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to rebuild 
this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other than the 
ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m interested to know 
what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I go to iOS 12? It didn’t 
say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I have and can still upgrade 
to the new iOS.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner 
> 
> wrote:
>
> Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
> She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational 
> structure was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice.
> I think she may have also lost some files and had to track them down 
> again.
> So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is 
> not interested in.
> If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was 
> something else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her 
> library will not get screwed up yet again.
>
> As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.  
> The fact that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second 
> time of having to rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice 
> Dream is compared to all other apps of its kind.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip 
> under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
>
> No, I must disagree there. Updates, especially for app makers like 
> Voice Dream, LLC, who strive to make accessible apps, will not usually 
> break accessibility, because they have good Beta testers, and probably 
> test the updates with VoiceOver themselves. Please try not to spread 
> fear, uncertainty, and doubt about updating most apps. Sure, apps like 
> Messenger have had major problems in the past, but that's because of 
> arrogant Facebook not taking accessibility seriously, in my opinion. .
>
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the 
> Blind JAWS certified
>
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 5:04 AM, kelby carlson 
>> wrote:
>>
>&g

Re: Voice dream reader update

[Marie N.]

Speaking of Audible accessibility, there is a bug currently which I have 
verified with Audible. A couple of updates ago they changed the method for 
deleting books from your device and to put it bluntly, it does not work. I 
am running the beta of IOS 12 on my 6S and 11.4.1 on my eight and the 
problem exists on both version. They are aware of the issue but have not yet 
fixed it, so please send them feedback on the problem. I used Audible 
extensively and need to be able to delete.

Marie

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream reader update

I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it 
refers to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and 
developers who have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps 
have continued to be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has 
been good for many years and there are lots of others.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing 
out there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to 
rebuild this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other 
than the ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m 
interested to know what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I 
go to iOS 12? It didn’t say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I 
have and can still upgrade to the new iOS.




Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational 
structure was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice. 
I think she may have also lost some files and had to track them down 
again.
So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
interested in.
If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was 
something else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her 
library will not get screwed up yet again.


As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.  The 
fact that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second time of 
having to rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice Dream is 
compared to all other apps of its kind.


Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

No, I must disagree there. Updates, especially for app makers like Voice 
Dream, LLC, who strive to make accessible apps, will not usually break 
accessibility, because they have good Beta testers, and probably test the 
updates with VoiceOver themselves. Please try not to spread fear, 
uncertainty, and doubt about updating most apps. Sure, apps like Messenger 
have had major problems in the past, but that's because of arrogant 
Facebook not taking accessibility seriously, in my opinion. .


Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind 
JAWS certified


On Sep 17, 2018, at 5:04 AM, kelby carlson  
wrote:


Updates are just as likely to break the app as improve it. (This goes
for all apps.)

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:21 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Well, Andy, I have been bitten in the butt before with updates. Losing 
library and having to rebuild them. So I’m not too interested in just 
updating for updating say.



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

If the update is free, why not?
Updates usually contain under the hood improvements and bug fixes.
Andy
- Original Message - From: "Mary Otten"

To: ; 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:03 PM
Subject: Voice dream reader update


I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has 
compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are 
Siri shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri 
shortcuts relates to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading 
list which I don’t, why update? Is there anything in here that isn’t 
mentioned that makes it worthwhile to take a chance?

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
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If you have any questions or concerns about the running

RE: Voice dream reader update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I agree with Mary's and Richard's assessment, but Devin is also correct in 
saying that the statement " Updates are just as likely to break the app as 
improve it" is a bit broad. Typically when the word "break" is used it refers 
to accessibility and definitely there are a lot of companies and developers who 
have prooven that accessibility is important and their apps have continued to 
be just fine for years. Sonos is one example, Audible has been good for many 
years and there are lots of others.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing out 
there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to rebuild 
this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other than the 
ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m interested to know 
what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I go to iOS 12? It didn’t 
say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I have and can still upgrade 
to the new iOS.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
> She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational structure 
> was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice.  I think she 
> may have also lost some files and had to track them down again.
> So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
> interested in.
> If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was 
> something else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her 
> library will not get screwed up yet again.
> 
> As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.  The fact 
> that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second time of having to 
> rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice Dream is compared to all 
> other apps of its kind.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
> Prater
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
> 
> No, I must disagree there. Updates, especially for app makers like Voice 
> Dream, LLC, who strive to make accessible apps, will not usually break 
> accessibility, because they have good Beta testers, and probably test the 
> updates with VoiceOver themselves. Please try not to spread fear, 
> uncertainty, and doubt about updating most apps. Sure, apps like Messenger 
> have had major problems in the past, but that's because of arrogant Facebook 
> not taking accessibility seriously, in my opinion. .  
> 
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind 
> JAWS certified 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 5:04 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Updates are just as likely to break the app as improve it. (This goes 
>> for all apps.)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:21 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, Andy, I have been bitten in the butt before with updates. Losing 
>>> library and having to rebuild them. So I’m not too interested in just 
>>> updating for updating say.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If the update is free, why not?
>>>> Updates usually contain under the hood improvements and bug fixes.
>>>> Andy
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: ; 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Voice dream reader update
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has 
>>>> compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are Siri 
>>>> shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri shortcuts 
>>>> relates to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading list which I 
>>>> don’t, why update? Is there anything in here that isn’t mentioned that 
>>>> makes it worthwhile to take a chance?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>

Re: Voice dream reader update

[Mary Otten]

Richard, you nailed it. I continue to use  VDR because it’s the best thing out 
there as far as I am concerned. But I am not at all anxious to have to rebuild 
this library yet again. Smile. So if there are other features other than the 
ones mentioned in the release notes on the App Store, I’m interested to know 
what those are. Or do I have to have this update when I go to iOS 12? It didn’t 
say that. So I assume I’m going to stick with what I have and can still upgrade 
to the new iOS.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
> She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational structure 
> was corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice.  I think she 
> may have also lost some files and had to track them down again.
> So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
> interested in.
> If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was 
> something else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her 
> library will not get screwed up yet again.
> 
> As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.  The fact 
> that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second time of having to 
> rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice Dream is compared to all 
> other apps of its kind.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
> Prater
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update
> 
> No, I must disagree there. Updates, especially for app makers like Voice 
> Dream, LLC, who strive to make accessible apps, will not usually break 
> accessibility, because they have good Beta testers, and probably test the 
> updates with VoiceOver themselves. Please try not to spread fear, 
> uncertainty, and doubt about updating most apps. Sure, apps like Messenger 
> have had major problems in the past, but that's because of arrogant Facebook 
> not taking accessibility seriously, in my opinion. .  
> 
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind 
> JAWS certified 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 5:04 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Updates are just as likely to break the app as improve it. (This goes 
>> for all apps.)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:21 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, Andy, I have been bitten in the butt before with updates. Losing 
>>> library and having to rebuild them. So I’m not too interested in just 
>>> updating for updating say.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If the update is free, why not?
>>>> Updates usually contain under the hood improvements and bug fixes.
>>>> Andy
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: ; 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:03 PM
>>>> Subject: Voice dream reader update
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has 
>>>> compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are Siri 
>>>> shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri shortcuts 
>>>> relates to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading list which I 
>>>> don’t, why update? Is there anything in here that isn’t mentioned that 
>>>> makes it worthwhile to take a chance?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
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RE: Voice dream reader update

[Richard Turner]

Mary's experience has nothing to do with accessibility.
She has an extremely large library, and twice, the organizational structure was 
corrupted and she had to build it again from scratch, twice.  I think she may 
have also lost some files and had to track them down again.
So, I can understand her reluctance to update it for features she is not 
interested in.
If I were her, I wouldn't update either unless it was clear there was something 
else worth updating for or Winston could assure her that her library will not 
get screwed up yet again.

As far as accessibility goes, yes, Voice Dream is one of the best.  The fact 
that Mary didn't dump the app completely after the second time of having to 
rebuild a huge library says a lot for how good Voice Dream is compared to all 
other apps of its kind.

Richard



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
Prater
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader update

No, I must disagree there. Updates, especially for app makers like Voice Dream, 
LLC, who strive to make accessible apps, will not usually break accessibility, 
because they have good Beta testers, and probably test the updates with 
VoiceOver themselves. Please try not to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt 
about updating most apps. Sure, apps like Messenger have had major problems in 
the past, but that's because of arrogant Facebook not taking accessibility 
seriously, in my opinion. .  

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind JAWS 
certified 

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 5:04 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> Updates are just as likely to break the app as improve it. (This goes 
> for all apps.)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:21 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, Andy, I have been bitten in the butt before with updates. Losing 
>> library and having to rebuild them. So I’m not too interested in just 
>> updating for updating say.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If the update is free, why not?
>>> Updates usually contain under the hood improvements and bug fixes.
>>> Andy
>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>>> 
>>> To: ; 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:03 PM
>>> Subject: Voice dream reader update
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has 
>>> compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are Siri 
>>> shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri shortcuts 
>>> relates to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading list which I 
>>> don’t, why update? Is there anything in here that isn’t mentioned that 
>>> makes it worthwhile to take a chance?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voice dream reader update

[Devin Prater]

No, I must disagree there. Updates, especially for app makers like Voice Dream, 
LLC, who strive to make accessible apps, will not usually break accessibility, 
because they have good Beta testers, and probably test the updates with 
VoiceOver themselves. Please try not to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt 
about updating most apps. Sure, apps like Messenger have had major problems in 
the past, but that's because of arrogant Facebook not taking accessibility 
seriously, in my opinion. .  

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor certified by World Services for the Blind
JAWS certified 

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 5:04 AM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
> Updates are just as likely to break the app as improve it. (This goes for all 
> apps.)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:21 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, Andy, I have been bitten in the butt before with updates. Losing 
>> library and having to rebuild them. So I’m not too interested in just 
>> updating for updating say.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If the update is free, why not?
>>> Updates usually contain under the hood improvements and bug fixes.
>>> Andy
>>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>>> To: ; 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:03 PM
>>> Subject: Voice dream reader update
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has 
>>> compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are Siri 
>>> shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri shortcuts 
>>> relates to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading list which I 
>>> don’t, why update? Is there anything in here that isn’t mentioned that 
>>> makes it worthwhile to take a chance?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voice dream reader update

[kelby carlson]

Updates are just as likely to break the app as improve it. (This goes for all 
apps.)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:21 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, Andy, I have been bitten in the butt before with updates. Losing 
> library and having to rebuild them. So I’m not too interested in just 
> updating for updating say.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> If the update is free, why not?
>> Updates usually contain under the hood improvements and bug fixes.
>> Andy
>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>> To: ; 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:03 PM
>> Subject: Voice dream reader update
>> 
>> 
>> I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has 
>> compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are Siri 
>> shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri shortcuts 
>> relates to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading list which I 
>> don’t, why update? Is there anything in here that isn’t mentioned that makes 
>> it worthwhile to take a chance?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voice dream reader update

[Mary Otten]

Well, Andy, I have been bitten in the butt before with updates. Losing library 
and having to rebuild them. So I’m not too interested in just updating for 
updating say.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:19 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> If the update is free, why not?
> Updates usually contain under the hood improvements and bug fixes.
> Andy
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:03 PM
> Subject: Voice dream reader update
> 
> 
> I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has 
> compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are Siri 
> shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri shortcuts 
> relates to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading list which I 
> don’t, why update? Is there anything in here that isn’t mentioned that makes 
> it worthwhile to take a chance?
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Voice dream reader update

[Andy Baracco]

If the update is free, why not?
Updates usually contain under the hood improvements and bug fixes.
Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 

To: ; 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:03 PM
Subject: Voice dream reader update


I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has 
compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are Siri 
shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri shortcuts 
relates to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading list which I don’t, 
why update? Is there anything in here that isn’t mentioned that makes it 
worthwhile to take a chance?

Mary


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Voice dream reader update

[Mary Otten]

I see that there is a Voice Dream reader update out which says it has 
compatibility with iOS 12. The only things mentioned in the notes are Siri 
shortcuts and reading list. And the specific thing about Siri shortcuts relates 
to reading list. So if you don’t care about reading list which I don’t, why 
update? Is there anything in here that isn’t mentioned that makes it worthwhile 
to take a chance?
Mary


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Voice dream reader update, I spoke too soon

[Mary Otten]

I saw that update yesterday and double tapped on update. I assumed it had 
updated. But there were problems yesterday off and on with the iTunes Store at 
Cetera, and I must've tried the update during one of those times. Because when 
I went into updates today, I saw a whole bunch of updates that I thought I had 
already done, including voice dream reader. So my report about no problems does 
not relate to yesterday's update. And given what was earlier reported, I am not 
updating. My history with this application is such that I am not taking a 
chance on it.
Mary


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Re: Voice dream reader update and a problem

[MONICA JONES]

Hi Mary, mine loaded orrectly--no problems.

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> On Nov 1, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There was a voice dream reader update on the App Store this morning, so I 
> updated it. I just open the app, only to be told that iCloud was not 
> available. That seems strange, since iCloud Drive is on my phone and I can 
> see things on it. So I opened up Voice Dream again, and now the document 
> which has the what's new for this update is showing as not available with a 
> button next to it that says error unable to load file. It seems like voice 
> dream reader has gone nothing but downhill ever since they made that big 
> update several months ago. This new version is supposed to have improvements 
> for iCloud drive as well as other unspecified VoiceOver enhancements or 
> improvement. I was going to read that little file which is not available in 
> order to find out what were these improvements. Has anyone had this problem?
> Mary
> 
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Voice dream reader update and a problem

[Mary Otten]

There was a voice dream reader update on the App Store this morning, so I 
updated it. I just open the app, only to be told that iCloud was not available. 
That seems strange, since iCloud Drive is on my phone and I can see things on 
it. So I opened up Voice Dream again, and now the document which has the what's 
new for this update is showing as not available with a button next to it that 
says error unable to load file. It seems like voice dream reader has gone 
nothing but downhill ever since they made that big update several months ago. 
This new version is supposed to have improvements for iCloud drive as well as 
other unspecified VoiceOver enhancements or improvement. I was going to read 
that little file which is not available in order to find out what were these 
improvements. Has anyone had this problem?
Mary


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Re: New Voice Dream Reader Update Released Today

[Richard Turner]

Note, Winston said nothing about iCloud in the What's New for version 4.0.5. 
Here is the What's New for 4.0.5:
What's New

Version 4.0.5

Updated for iOS 10.

Minor bug fixes and enhancements.

Great news! iOS 10 comes with many free, high quality TTS voices, including 
Siri voices. Go to iOS Settings, General, Accessibility, Speech, and Voices. 
Select the language you want to use, and you'll see all the available voices. 
The enhanced version of a voice is higher in audio quality, but note that it 
uses a lot more storage. After download is complete, come back to Voice Dream 
Reader. Go to the voice selection screen and tap on the Refresh button at the 
bottom. Newly downloaded iOS voices will be available for use.


Richard


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Version 4.0.5 of Voice Dream Reader was released today. This update is for iOS 
10 and hopefully corrects some of the problems some have experienced with the 
app with iCloud and folders.

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New Voice Dream Reader Update Released Today

[Alan Lemly]

Version 4.0.5 of Voice Dream Reader was released today. This update is for
iOS 10 and hopefully corrects some of the problems some have experienced
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update

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I was able to update voice dream reader on my ipad this morning.

On 6/22/2014 11:52 AM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hi,
I updated Voice Dream Reader yesterday on my iPhone 4 wihtout a hitch. I'm in 
the US.

Best,
Eileen

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I wonder if you have the same problem I have.  My ipad didn't see it in the app 
store.  I was able to update it on my ipod touch.

On 6/21/2014 8:33 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:

Is this in the US App Store? I haven't seen it yet.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

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VoiceDream Reader has an update.
This is what the What's New says:
3.1.0
-Specify number of lines visible (1, 3 or 5).
-Specify keeping speech cursor always centered, or on the page.
-Improved performance of iOS built-in voices.
-Corrected pausing at end of line for Ivona voices.
-Improve Pocket download reliability.
-Many minor bug fixes and enhancements.
The improvement in the smoothness of the Ivona voice reading is quite
good.
I have not explored the other changes yet.
Richard


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Re: Voice Dream Reader update

[Russ Kiehne]

I wonder if you have the same problem I have.  My ipad didn't see it in 
the app store.  I was able to update it on my ipod touch.


On 6/21/2014 8:33 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:

Is this in the US App Store? I haven't seen it yet.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 21, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
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VoiceDream Reader has an update.
This is what the What's New says:
3.1.0
-Specify number of lines visible (1, 3 or 5).
-Specify keeping speech cursor always centered, or on the page.
-Improved performance of iOS built-in voices.
-Corrected pausing at end of line for Ivona voices.
-Improve Pocket download reliability.
-Many minor bug fixes and enhancements.
The improvement in the smoothness of the Ivona voice reading is quite
good.
I have not explored the other changes yet.
Richard


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RE: Voice Dream Reader update

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi, 
I updated Voice Dream Reader yesterday on my iPhone 4 wihtout a hitch. I'm in 
the US. 

Best, 
Eileen 

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I wonder if you have the same problem I have.  My ipad didn't see it in the app 
store.  I was able to update it on my ipod touch.

On 6/21/2014 8:33 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:
 Is this in the US App Store? I haven't seen it yet.

 Jenn

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jun 21, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com 
 mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 VoiceDream Reader has an update.
 This is what the What's New says:
 3.1.0
 -Specify number of lines visible (1, 3 or 5).
 -Specify keeping speech cursor always centered, or on the page.
 -Improved performance of iOS built-in voices.
 -Corrected pausing at end of line for Ivona voices.
 -Improve Pocket download reliability.
 -Many minor bug fixes and enhancements.
 The improvement in the smoothness of the Ivona voice reading is quite 
 good.
 I have not explored the other changes yet.
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update

[Jennie Facer]

Well, I just received the update. I have it both on my phone and iPad mini.

Jenn

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 Hi, 
 I updated Voice Dream Reader yesterday on my iPhone 4 wihtout a hitch. I'm in 
 the US. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Russ Kiehne
 Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:47 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update
 
 I wonder if you have the same problem I have.  My ipad didn't see it in the 
 app store.  I was able to update it on my ipod touch.
 
 On 6/21/2014 8:33 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:
 Is this in the US App Store? I haven't seen it yet.
 
 Jenn
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jun 21, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com 
 mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 VoiceDream Reader has an update.
 This is what the What's New says:
 3.1.0
 -Specify number of lines visible (1, 3 or 5).
 -Specify keeping speech cursor always centered, or on the page.
 -Improved performance of iOS built-in voices.
 -Corrected pausing at end of line for Ivona voices.
 -Improve Pocket download reliability.
 -Many minor bug fixes and enhancements.
 The improvement in the smoothness of the Ivona voice reading is quite 
 good.
 I have not explored the other changes yet.
 Richard
 
 
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VoiceDream Reader has an update.
This is what the What's New says:
3.1.0
-Specify number of lines visible (1, 3 or 5).
-Specify keeping speech cursor always centered, or on the page.
-Improved performance of iOS built-in voices.
-Corrected pausing at end of line for Ivona voices.
-Improve Pocket download reliability.
-Many minor bug fixes and enhancements.
The improvement in the smoothness of the Ivona voice reading is quite good.
I have not explored the other changes yet.
Richard


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RE: Voice Dream Reader update

[Terrie Terlau]

Could someone explain:

-Improve Pocket download reliability.

I don't know what Pocket Download is.

Thanks.

Terrie

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VoiceDream Reader has an update.

This is what the What's New says:

3.1.0

-Specify number of lines visible (1, 3 or 5).

-Specify keeping speech cursor always centered, or on the page.

-Improved performance of iOS built-in voices.

-Corrected pausing at end of line for Ivona voices.

-Improve Pocket download reliability.

-Many minor bug fixes and enhancements.

The improvement in the smoothness of the Ivona voice reading is quite good.

I have not explored the other changes yet.

Richard

 

 

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RE: Voice Dream Reader update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Terrie,

 

Doing a Google search for “What is pocket download”, the first result is for 
the “Pocket” app on the app store. Other search results are for the Android 
version and various browser extensions. Below is the app store description of 
what Pocket does:

 

Pocket has been named one of the best apps for iPhone and iPad by the App Store.

 

Over 12 million people use Pocket to easily save articles, videos and more for 
later. With Pocket, all of your content goes to one place, so you can view it 
anytime, on any device. You don’t even need an Internet connection.

 

Don’t lose track of the interesting things you find by emailing yourself links 
or letting tabs pile up in your browser. Just save them to Pocket.

 

WHAT CAN I SAVE?

Save articles, videos, recipes, and webpages you find online or from your 
favorite apps.

 

VIEW EVERYWHERE, EVEN OFFLINE 

If it’s in Pocket, it’s on your phone, tablet or computer, even when you’re 
offline. Perfect for commutes, travel, and curling up on your couch.

 

BETTER VIEWING EXPERIENCE

See your saved items in a simple, easy-to-view layout that improves the viewing 
experience of any page. 

 

WORKS OFFLINE 

Access what you’ve saved offline. Set up Pocket to only download when connected 
to Wi-Fi to reduce data usage.

 

USE WITH YOUR FAVORITE APPS AND SITES

Whether you’re browsing online or on-the-go with your favorite apps, Pocket 
lets you save great content wherever you find it. After you’re done reading, 
send the articles and videos you love to another friend’s Pocket, or share to 
Facebook, Twitter, Evernote, or Email.

 

PERSONALIZED HIGHLIGHTS

Save as much as you want, Pocket will highlight the best and most relevant 
content in your list. 

 

POCKET PREMIUM

Upgrade anytime to Premium for a more powerful Pocket experience to get a 
Permanent Library for everything you save with Full-Text Search and Suggested 
Tags.

 

Pocket is available for Mac, iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch, the Web, and any other 
phone or tablet. 

 

You can also save to Pocket with our Browser Extensions for Chrome, Safari, 
Firefox, and Internet Explorer. 

 

Learn more about us at http://www.GetPocket.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terrie Terlau
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader update

 

Could someone explain:

-Improve Pocket download reliability.

I don't know what Pocket Download is.

Thanks.

Terrie

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:10 AM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Voice Dream Reader update

 

VoiceDream Reader has an update.

This is what the What's New says:

3.1.0

-Specify number of lines visible (1, 3 or 5).

-Specify keeping speech cursor always centered, or on the page.

-Improved performance of iOS built-in voices.

-Corrected pausing at end of line for Ivona voices.

-Improve Pocket download reliability.

-Many minor bug fixes and enhancements.

The improvement in the smoothness of the Ivona voice reading is quite good.

I have not explored the other changes yet.

Richard

 

 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader update

[Jennie Facer]

Is this in the US App Store? I haven't seen it yet.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

 On Jun 21, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 VoiceDream Reader has an update.
 This is what the What's New says:
 3.1.0
 -Specify number of lines visible (1, 3 or 5).
 -Specify keeping speech cursor always centered, or on the page.
 -Improved performance of iOS built-in voices.
 -Corrected pausing at end of line for Ivona voices.
 -Improve Pocket download reliability.
 -Many minor bug fixes and enhancements.
 The improvement in the smoothness of the Ivona voice reading is quite good.
 I have not explored the other changes yet.
 Richard
 
 
 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo
 
  
 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader update

[Richard Turner]

Yes, I’m in the United States; Portland, Oregon to be exact.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update

 

Is this in the US App Store? I haven't seen it yet.

 

Jenn

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mailto:rich...@turner42.com  wrote:

VoiceDream Reader has an update.

This is what the What's New says:

3.1.0

-Specify number of lines visible (1, 3 or 5).

-Specify keeping speech cursor always centered, or on the page.

-Improved performance of iOS built-in voices.

-Corrected pausing at end of line for Ivona voices.

-Improve Pocket download reliability.

-Many minor bug fixes and enhancements.

The improvement in the smoothness of the Ivona voice reading is quite good.

I have not explored the other changes yet.

Richard

 

 

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Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems

[Sandratomkins]

Hi Brett and others,
So, if I understand you correctly, this is a bug that occurs with you as well 
when you use the iOS voices? This only started happening with the latest 
update, is that correct to? The simple fact is that apart from when I'm reading 
in Italian I only like Daniel's  voice on my phone. And I read mainly fiction, 
so, I don't like to speed through it preferring to contemplate as I go. All in 
all, I do hope this bug is fixed, but I am grateful to you, Brett, for letting 
me know that I'm not alone and that it is an actual bug.

All the best,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

 On 31 Jan 2014, at 03:51, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 Isaac is actually correct! I do have the app and don't use the iOS voices due 
 to the two issues outlined below. 
 
 Changing to your preferred thirdparty voice will correct these issues, plus 
 the thirdparty voices do allow you to read at much faster speeds. 
 
 Hope this helps, 
 Brett
 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 2:01 pm, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you don't have the app, then of course you're not going to experience the
 problem. Come on guys. Let's use a little common sense when trying to help
 others.
 
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 Visit my blog:
 http://joeorozco.com/blog
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of isaac
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems
 
 I don't have this app so no I am not experiencing this problem but I would
 try a different voice and see if that works.
 On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Previously I had no problems listening to books with voice dream with my
 headphones and controlling the pause and play via the button on the
 headphones. Unfortunately, after the most recent update, I now find that I
 have to press that button three times before the book stops playing. Plus,
 and this really aggravates, when I start the book up again using the same
 button, I find that the cursor is much further along in the book. It's
 almost as though the book is continued to read silently to itself. Is anyone
 else experiencing this? I am using Daniel the iOS voice to read with.
 
 Thanks for any info,
 Sandy
 
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Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems

[Brett]

Hi, I am not sure when the iOS voices were introduced, weather it was the 
latest upgrade, or the one previous. Anyway, I remembered seeing the bugs you 
discribed so went and tested it again before replying. I can deffinetely 
conferm it here on the current version. 

Perhaps if we both drop a perlite note to the author, maybe he can rectify 
things in a future upgrade. 

Cheers, 
Brett. 


Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

 On 31 Jan 2014, at 8:50 pm, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Brett and others,
 So, if I understand you correctly, this is a bug that occurs with you as well 
 when you use the iOS voices? This only started happening with the latest 
 update, is that correct to? The simple fact is that apart from when I'm 
 reading in Italian I only like Daniel's  voice on my phone. And I read mainly 
 fiction, so, I don't like to speed through it preferring to contemplate as I 
 go. All in all, I do hope this bug is fixed, but I am grateful to you, Brett, 
 for letting me know that I'm not alone and that it is an actual bug.
 
 All the best,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 03:51, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 Isaac is actually correct! I do have the app and don't use the iOS voices 
 due to the two issues outlined below. 
 
 Changing to your preferred thirdparty voice will correct these issues, plus 
 the thirdparty voices do allow you to read at much faster speeds. 
 
 Hope this helps, 
 Brett
 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 2:01 pm, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you don't have the app, then of course you're not going to experience the
 problem. Come on guys. Let's use a little common sense when trying to help
 others.
 
 --
 Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
 
 Visit my blog:
 http://joeorozco.com/blog
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of isaac
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems
 
 I don't have this app so no I am not experiencing this problem but I would
 try a different voice and see if that works.
 On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Previously I had no problems listening to books with voice dream with my
 headphones and controlling the pause and play via the button on the
 headphones. Unfortunately, after the most recent update, I now find that I
 have to press that button three times before the book stops playing. Plus,
 and this really aggravates, when I start the book up again using the same
 button, I find that the cursor is much further along in the book. It's
 almost as though the book is continued to read silently to itself. Is anyone
 else experiencing this? I am using Daniel the iOS voice to read with.
 
 Thanks for any info,
 Sandy
 
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Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems

[Sandratomkins]

Brett,
I have already done so. If you have the time, please do likewise, it will add 
strength to the request.

Slainte,
Sandy 


Sent from my iPhone

 On 31 Jan 2014, at 11:43, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, I am not sure when the iOS voices were introduced, weather it was the 
 latest upgrade, or the one previous. Anyway, I remembered seeing the bugs you 
 discribed so went and tested it again before replying. I can deffinetely 
 conferm it here on the current version. 
 
 Perhaps if we both drop a perlite note to the author, maybe he can rectify 
 things in a future upgrade. 
 
 Cheers, 
 Brett. 
 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 8:50 pm, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Brett and others,
 So, if I understand you correctly, this is a bug that occurs with you as 
 well when you use the iOS voices? This only started happening with the 
 latest update, is that correct to? The simple fact is that apart from when 
 I'm reading in Italian I only like Daniel's  voice on my phone. And I read 
 mainly fiction, so, I don't like to speed through it preferring to 
 contemplate as I go. All in all, I do hope this bug is fixed, but I am 
 grateful to you, Brett, for letting me know that I'm not alone and that it 
 is an actual bug.
 
 All the best,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 03:51, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 Isaac is actually correct! I do have the app and don't use the iOS voices 
 due to the two issues outlined below. 
 
 Changing to your preferred thirdparty voice will correct these issues, plus 
 the thirdparty voices do allow you to read at much faster speeds. 
 
 Hope this helps, 
 Brett
 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 2:01 pm, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you don't have the app, then of course you're not going to experience 
 the
 problem. Come on guys. Let's use a little common sense when trying to help
 others.
 
 --
 Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
 
 Visit my blog:
 http://joeorozco.com/blog
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of isaac
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems
 
 I don't have this app so no I am not experiencing this problem but I would
 try a different voice and see if that works.
 On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Previously I had no problems listening to books with voice dream with my
 headphones and controlling the pause and play via the button on the
 headphones. Unfortunately, after the most recent update, I now find that I
 have to press that button three times before the book stops playing. Plus,
 and this really aggravates, when I start the book up again using the same
 button, I find that the cursor is much further along in the book. It's
 almost as though the book is continued to read silently to itself. Is 
 anyone
 else experiencing this? I am using Daniel the iOS voice to read with.
 
 Thanks for any info,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems

[Brett]

Job done. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

 On 31 Jan 2014, at 10:54 pm, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Brett,
 I have already done so. If you have the time, please do likewise, it will add 
 strength to the request.
 
 Slainte,
 Sandy 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 11:43, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, I am not sure when the iOS voices were introduced, weather it was the 
 latest upgrade, or the one previous. Anyway, I remembered seeing the bugs 
 you discribed so went and tested it again before replying. I can deffinetely 
 conferm it here on the current version. 
 
 Perhaps if we both drop a perlite note to the author, maybe he can rectify 
 things in a future upgrade. 
 
 Cheers, 
 Brett. 
 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 8:50 pm, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Brett and others,
 So, if I understand you correctly, this is a bug that occurs with you as 
 well when you use the iOS voices? This only started happening with the 
 latest update, is that correct to? The simple fact is that apart from when 
 I'm reading in Italian I only like Daniel's  voice on my phone. And I read 
 mainly fiction, so, I don't like to speed through it preferring to 
 contemplate as I go. All in all, I do hope this bug is fixed, but I am 
 grateful to you, Brett, for letting me know that I'm not alone and that it 
 is an actual bug.
 
 All the best,
 Sandy
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 03:51, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 Isaac is actually correct! I do have the app and don't use the iOS voices 
 due to the two issues outlined below. 
 
 Changing to your preferred thirdparty voice will correct these issues, 
 plus the thirdparty voices do allow you to read at much faster speeds. 
 
 Hope this helps, 
 Brett
 
 
 Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 31 Jan 2014, at 2:01 pm, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:53 AM
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 Subject: Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems
 
 I don't have this app so no I am not experiencing this problem but I would
 try a different voice and see if that works.
 On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Previously I had no problems listening to books with voice dream with my
 headphones and controlling the pause and play via the button on the
 headphones. Unfortunately, after the most recent update, I now find that I
 have to press that button three times before the book stops playing. Plus,
 and this really aggravates, when I start the book up again using the same
 button, I find that the cursor is much further along in the book. It's
 almost as though the book is continued to read silently to itself. Is 
 anyone
 else experiencing this? I am using Daniel the iOS voice to read with.
 
 Thanks for any info,
 Sandy
 
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Latest voice dream reader update problems

[Sandratomkins]

Hi,
Previously I had no problems listening to books with voice dream with my 
headphones and controlling the pause and play via the button on the headphones. 
Unfortunately, after the most recent update, I now find that I have to press 
that button three times before the book stops playing. Plus, and this really 
aggravates, when I start the book up again using the same button, I find that 
the cursor is much further along in the book. It's almost as though the book is 
continued to read silently to itself. Is anyone else experiencing this? I am 
using Daniel the iOS voice to read with.

Thanks for any info,
Sandy

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Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems

[isaac]

I don't have this app so no I am not experiencing this problem but I would try 
a different voice and see if that works.
On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Previously I had no problems listening to books with voice dream with my 
 headphones and controlling the pause and play via the button on the 
 headphones. Unfortunately, after the most recent update, I now find that I 
 have to press that button three times before the book stops playing. Plus, 
 and this really aggravates, when I start the book up again using the same 
 button, I find that the cursor is much further along in the book. It's almost 
 as though the book is continued to read silently to itself. Is anyone else 
 experiencing this? I am using Daniel the iOS voice to read with.
 
 Thanks for any info,
 Sandy
 
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RE: Latest voice dream reader update problems

[Joe]

If you don't have the app, then of course you're not going to experience the
problem. Come on guys. Let's use a little common sense when trying to help
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Of isaac
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems

I don't have this app so no I am not experiencing this problem but I would
try a different voice and see if that works.
On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 Hi,
 Previously I had no problems listening to books with voice dream with my
headphones and controlling the pause and play via the button on the
headphones. Unfortunately, after the most recent update, I now find that I
have to press that button three times before the book stops playing. Plus,
and this really aggravates, when I start the book up again using the same
button, I find that the cursor is much further along in the book. It's
almost as though the book is continued to read silently to itself. Is anyone
else experiencing this? I am using Daniel the iOS voice to read with.
 
 Thanks for any info,
 Sandy
 
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Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems

[Brett]

Hi, 

Isaac is actually correct! I do have the app and don't use the iOS voices due 
to the two issues outlined below. 

Changing to your preferred thirdparty voice will correct these issues, plus the 
thirdparty voices do allow you to read at much faster speeds. 

Hope this helps, 
Brett


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 On 31 Jan 2014, at 2:01 pm, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 problem. Come on guys. Let's use a little common sense when trying to help
 others.
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of isaac
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:53 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Latest voice dream reader update problems
 
 I don't have this app so no I am not experiencing this problem but I would
 try a different voice and see if that works.
 On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Previously I had no problems listening to books with voice dream with my
 headphones and controlling the pause and play via the button on the
 headphones. Unfortunately, after the most recent update, I now find that I
 have to press that button three times before the book stops playing. Plus,
 and this really aggravates, when I start the book up again using the same
 button, I find that the cursor is much further along in the book. It's
 almost as though the book is continued to read silently to itself. Is anyone
 else experiencing this? I am using Daniel the iOS voice to read with.
 
 Thanks for any info,
 Sandy
 
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RE: Latest voice dream reader update problems

[Richard Turner]

Hi Sandra,
I think Bret is onto something with the iOS voices.
But, I'd recommend you go to the horse's mouth and contact the developer
directly:
supp...@voicedream.com

He is very responsive and may have more to say about what is going on.

I have started using primarily the James voice and when I want a female
voice, Brigit.

HTH,
Richard

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Subject: Latest voice dream reader update problems

Hi,
Previously I had no problems listening to books with voice dream with my
headphones and controlling the pause and play via the button on the
headphones. Unfortunately, after the most recent update, I now find that I
have to press that button three times before the book stops playing. Plus,
and this really aggravates, when I start the book up again using the same
button, I find that the cursor is much further along in the book. It's
almost as though the book is continued to read silently to itself. Is anyone
else experiencing this? I am using Daniel the iOS voice to read with.

Thanks for any info,
Sandy

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Re: Voice dream reader update is in the App Store

[Chris H]

Should I get this now or upgrade to iOs 7 then get it?

On 17/09/2013 03:01, Len Burns wrote:

I just noticed that the voice dream reader update for iOS 7 is in the App 
Store. Thought you might like to know.

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Re: Voice dream reader update is in the App Store

[Chris H]

Please disregard I got the answer from an earlier thread. Sorry.

On 17/09/2013 08:25, Chris H wrote:

Should I get this now or upgrade to iOs 7 then get it?

On 17/09/2013 03:01, Len Burns wrote:

I just noticed that the voice dream reader update for iOS 7 is in the
App Store. Thought you might like to know.

-Len





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ios 7 compatible voice dream reader update is out

[Mary Otten]

Subject line says it all. 

Mary
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Voice dream reader update is in the App Store

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I just noticed that the voice dream reader update for iOS 7 is in the App 
Store. Thought you might like to know.

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RE: Voice dream reader update is in the App Store

[Wayne gmail]

Yup.  Downloaded and installed it a little while ago.  Couse the extra ios7
voices won't be there until the iOS upgrade.  Earlier in the day I could not
use DR because no voice was available so I suspect the app was being
enabled.  My thanks to the developer for such a classy to approach a tricky
situation.

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I just noticed that the voice dream reader update for iOS 7 is in the App
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Re: Anyone else having trouble downloading Voice Dream Reader update?

[Keith Watson]

HI,

I have seen this issue on my phone before. When it occurs I just go to the app 
and attempt to open it. In other words, just double tap on the app and the 
download will start. Give it a shot.

Keith
On Jun 8, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried downloading it the other day, and received a message that it could 
 not be downloaded at this time.  I have tried multiple times since then, and 
 receive the same message.  When I go into the app store, it says installing 
 but when I look at the Voice Dream icon on my screen, it says 5 percent.  
 When I open the app, it tells me it cannot be downloaded at this time, and to 
 try again later.  I have tried syncing my phone,   but this has not helped.  
 I am concerned about removing and reinstalling, as I will likely then have to 
 reenter all of my information. Any suggestions or similar experiences are 
 appreciated. TIA.
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Re: Anyone else having trouble downloading Voice Dream Reader update?

[Brett C.]

Yes, this just worked for me. Initially, I was hesitant to attempt opening the 
app with a partial   download because I thought that I would mess something up. 
Turns out it's all good. Thanks.

On Jun 9, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Keith Watson lnx...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI,
 
 I have seen this issue on my phone before. When it occurs I just go to the 
 app and attempt to open it. In other words, just double tap on the app and 
 the download will start. Give it a shot.
 
 Keith
 On Jun 8, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com 
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 I tried downloading it the other day, and received a message that it could 
 not be downloaded at this time.  I have tried multiple times since then, and 
 receive the same message.  When I go into the app store, it says 
 installing but when I look at the Voice Dream icon on my screen, it says 
 5 percent.  When I open the app, it tells me it cannot be downloaded at 
 this time, and to try again later.  I have tried syncing my phone,   but 
 this has not helped.  I am concerned about removing and reinstalling, as I 
 will likely then have to reenter all of my information. Any suggestions or 
 similar experiences are appreciated. TIA.
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Anyone else having trouble downloading Voice Dream Reader update?

[Christine Grassman]

I tried downloading it the other day, and received a message that it could not 
be downloaded at this time.  I have tried multiple times since then, and 
receive the same message.  When I go into the app store, it says installing 
but when I look at the Voice Dream icon on my screen, it says 5 percent.  
When I open the app, it tells me it cannot be downloaded at this time, and to 
try again later.  I have tried syncing my phone,   but this has not helped.  I 
am concerned about removing and reinstalling, as I will likely then have to 
reenter all of my information. Any suggestions or similar experiences are 
appreciated. TIA.
Christine

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Re: Anyone else having trouble downloading Voice Dream Reader update?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I had no trouble downloading the update. I would suggest removing all apps from 
the app switcher, restarting the phone, making sure you have a good Wi-Fi 
connection, and trying again.

Good luck,
Anna



On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried downloading it the other day, and received a message that it could 
 not be downloaded at this time.  I have tried multiple times since then, and 
 receive the same message.  When I go into the app store, it says installing 
 but when I look at the Voice Dream icon on my screen, it says 5 percent.  
 When I open the app, it tells me it cannot be downloaded at this time, and to 
 try again later.  I have tried syncing my phone,   but this has not helped.  
 I am concerned about removing and reinstalling, as I will likely then have to 
 reenter all of my information. Any suggestions or similar experiences are 
 appreciated. TIA.
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Re: Anyone else having trouble downloading Voice Dream Reader update?

[Lelia Struve]

Can any one give me a description of voice dream? I mean I looked at 
the description in the app store and my question is what is the 
difference between this and the read to go voices? I know it does a lot 
more than read books but that is my question. thanks much


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RE: Anyone else having trouble downloading Voice Dream Reader update?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Christine,

If your phone is set to sync app with your computer you could try and
download it in iTunes, of course the sync may not work if it has not
downloaded in iTunes.

Apart from that Anna's recommendation is your best option, what is happening
just means you probably have a spotty WiFi connection. You can always try
somewhere else, e.g. if you have a friend or family member who has WiFi you
could try when you are connected there.

The download is 23.8 Mb which is on the larger side when it comes to apps.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Christine Grassman
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyone else having trouble downloading Voice Dream Reader update?

I tried downloading it the other day, and received a message that it could
not be downloaded at this time.  I have tried multiple times since then, and
receive the same message.  When I go into the app store, it says
installing but when I look at the Voice Dream icon on my screen, it says
5 percent.  When I open the app, it tells me it cannot be downloaded at
this time, and to try again later.  I have tried syncing my phone,   but
this has not helped.  I am concerned about removing and reinstalling, as I
will likely then have to reenter all of my information. Any suggestions or
similar experiences are appreciated. TIA.
Christine

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Re: Anyone else having trouble downloading Voice Dream Reader update?

[Brett C.]

I don't have an answer, but want you to know I'm experiencing the same thing. 
All other apps are updating just fine, so it doesn't have anything to do with 
the Wi-Fi connection.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 8, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Christine,
 
 If your phone is set to sync app with your computer you could try and
 download it in iTunes, of course the sync may not work if it has not
 downloaded in iTunes.
 
 Apart from that Anna's recommendation is your best option, what is happening
 just means you probably have a spotty WiFi connection. You can always try
 somewhere else, e.g. if you have a friend or family member who has WiFi you
 could try when you are connected there.
 
 The download is 23.8 Mb which is on the larger side when it comes to apps.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 5:27 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Anyone else having trouble downloading Voice Dream Reader update?
 
 I tried downloading it the other day, and received a message that it could
 not be downloaded at this time.  I have tried multiple times since then, and
 receive the same message.  When I go into the app store, it says
 installing but when I look at the Voice Dream icon on my screen, it says
 5 percent.  When I open the app, it tells me it cannot be downloaded at
 this time, and to try again later.  I have tried syncing my phone,   but
 this has not helped.  I am concerned about removing and reinstalling, as I
 will likely then have to reenter all of my information. Any suggestions or
 similar experiences are appreciated. TIA.
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New voice dream reader update is out

[Moop Curran]

Hi, 
I just wanted to let you know that a new version of voice dream reader 
available in the app store. It looks like it includes some nifty new features. 
I'm downloading it now. M
Courtney 

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Re: New voice dream reader update is out

[Richard Turner]

I down loaded the update and didn't find the cool new features, so I wrote 
Winston at Voice Dream.  Here is his reply:
On Mar 22, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Voice Dream Support supp...@voicedream.com 
wrote:

 Note function doesn't work with VoiceOver on. I'm working on that. This is 
 the very first release with annotation so I want to get some feedback first.
 
 To activate the sleep timer, double tap on the play/pause button but hold on 
 the second tap.
 
 Best,
 
 Winston.
 
 
 On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

 Winston,
 I just updated to 2.73, but none of the new features are showing up.
 Where is the notes function?
 Where is the sleep timer? 
 It says I am running 2.73.
 This is with VoiceOver on both my iPhone and iPod Touch 5th Gen.
 Thanks,
 
 
 Richard
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voice dream reader update

[Moop Curran]

Hi,
I just wanted to let everybody know that there's a new voice dream reader 
update in the app store. In the what's new section in the app update screen, it 
mentions voiceover. I updated, and I really like it a lot so far.
Courtney


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