Re: Voice Control Question

2024-07-09 Thread Feliciano Godoy
I think this is one of those scenarios where ignorance is bliss and the 
employee was trying to help to the best of his knowledge. Assuming that your 
friend can properly execute gestures, voiceover screen reader and Siri will 
take her  a long way when accessing the phone.


If there are difficulties using gestures to go to the home screen app switcher 
etc., your friend can customize voiceover gestures so it can be more intuitive 
for her. For example, she can create adjuster so that she can do a two finger 
swipe left to go to the home screen and two finger swipe right to go to the app 
switcher. I personally use these gestures because it's more efficient and 
recommend them to many people that have modern iPhone.


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On Jul 5, 2024, at 7:17 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com wrote:


I have a friend who just purchased a iPhone 15 Pro Max through T Mobile.  She 
was told that she needed to use Voice Control.  She does have a bit of usable 
sight but tends to use Siri and Voice Over mostly.

Is it necessary for her to use Voice Control?  What is its purpose?  I think it 
is making using an iPhone without a home button a bit more challenging for her.

Just trying to figure things out so I can explain them a bit better to one of 
her care givers.

Vivian and Sallie who is retiring due to medical issues in 1 month.  USA



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RE: Voice Control Question

2024-07-09 Thread Carolyn Arnold
People do get mixed up about Voicre Control and Voiceover. Over the years, I've 
told one that I needed a device to talk to me; I did not need to talk to a 
device. 

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I think the sales person was confused with voice control and voiceover. No, 
using voice control is a lot more difficult when using voiceover unless you use 
headphones.

JODY


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On Jul 5, 2024, at 10:17 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com wrote:





I have a friend who just purchased a iPhone 15 Pro Max through T 
Mobile.  She was told that she needed to use Voice Control.  She does have a 
bit of usable sight but tends to use Siri and Voice Over mostly.

 

Is it necessary for her to use Voice Control?  What is its purpose?  I 
think it is making using an iPhone without a home button a bit more challenging 
for her.

 

Just trying to figure things out so I can explain them a bit better to 
one of her care givers.

 

Vivian and Sallie who is retiring due to medical issues in 1 month.  USA

 

 



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RE: Voice Control Question

2024-07-06 Thread blazie.girl
Thanks Richard and Jody,

 

I told this to my friend who is the care giver and told her how to turn audio 
control off so they can see if it helps.

 

I really do appreciate all the valuable information I receive from folks on 
this list.

 

Vivian and Sallie, USA

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jody 
ianuzzi
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2024 8:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Control Question

 

I think the sales person was confused with voice control and voiceover. No, 
using voice control is a lot more difficult when using voiceover unless you use 
headphones.

JODY





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Weihenmayer





On Jul 5, 2024, at 10:17 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com 
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I have a friend who just purchased a iPhone 15 Pro Max through T Mobile.  She 
was told that she needed to use Voice Control.  She does have a bit of usable 
sight but tends to use Siri and Voice Over mostly.

 

Is it necessary for her to use Voice Control?  What is its purpose?  I think it 
is making using an iPhone without a home button a bit more challenging for her.

 

Just trying to figure things out so I can explain them a bit better to one of 
her care givers.

 

Vivian and Sallie who is retiring due to medical issues in 1 month.  USA

 

 

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Re: Voice Control Question

2024-07-05 Thread Jody ianuzzi
I think the sales person was confused with voice control and voiceover. No, using voice control is a lot more difficult when using voiceover unless you use headphones.JODYTo Boldly Go  🖖🏻 thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Jul 5, 2024, at 10:17 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com wrote:I have a friend who just purchased a iPhone 15 Pro Max through T Mobile.  She was told that she needed to use Voice Control.  She does have a bit of usable sight but tends to use Siri and Voice Over mostly. Is it necessary for her to use Voice Control?  What is its purpose?  I think it is making using an iPhone without a home button a bit more challenging for her. Just trying to figure things out so I can explain them a bit better to one of her care givers. Vivian and Sallie who is retiring due to medical issues in 1 month.  USA  



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RE: Voice Control Question

2024-07-05 Thread blazie.girl
Thanks Richard.  I will forward this to her care giver.

 

Vivian and Sallie Walla Walla USA

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2024 8:33 PM
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Voice Control is designed for people who have trouble performing the gestures. 
If she has finger dexterity issues or tremmors,  or any condition where 
accurately doing the gestures is a problem, then Voice Control may be an 
option. It adds lots of tedium in using the phone. 

If she can do the gestures, then she should turn off Voice Control. 

A bluetooth keyboard is another option. 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) 

 





On Jul 5, 2024, at 7:17 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com 
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I have a friend who just purchased a iPhone 15 Pro Max through T Mobile.  She 
was told that she needed to use Voice Control.  She does have a bit of usable 
sight but tends to use Siri and Voice Over mostly.

 

Is it necessary for her to use Voice Control?  What is its purpose?  I think it 
is making using an iPhone without a home button a bit more challenging for her.

 

Just trying to figure things out so I can explain them a bit better to one of 
her care givers.

 

Vivian and Sallie who is retiring due to medical issues in 1 month.  USA

 

 

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Re: Voice Control Question

2024-07-05 Thread Richard Turner
Voice Control is designed for people who have trouble performing the gestures. If she has finger dexterity issues or tremmors,  or any condition where accurately doing the gestures is a problem, then Voice Control may be an option. It adds lots of tedium in using the phone. If she can do the gestures, then she should turn off Voice Control. A bluetooth keyboard is another option. Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Jul 5, 2024, at 7:17 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com wrote:I have a friend who just purchased a iPhone 15 Pro Max through T Mobile.  She was told that she needed to use Voice Control.  She does have a bit of usable sight but tends to use Siri and Voice Over mostly. Is it necessary for her to use Voice Control?  What is its purpose?  I think it is making using an iPhone without a home button a bit more challenging for her. Just trying to figure things out so I can explain them a bit better to one of her care givers. Vivian and Sallie who is retiring due to medical issues in 1 month.  USA  



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Voice Control Question

2024-07-05 Thread blazie.girl
I have a friend who just purchased a iPhone 15 Pro Max through T Mobile.
She was told that she needed to use Voice Control.  She does have a bit of
usable sight but tends to use Siri and Voice Over mostly.

 

Is it necessary for her to use Voice Control?  What is its purpose?  I think
it is making using an iPhone without a home button a bit more challenging
for her.

 

Just trying to figure things out so I can explain them a bit better to one
of her care givers.

 

Vivian and Sallie who is retiring due to medical issues in 1 month.  USA

 

 

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Re: This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new Siri from Tech Radar

2024-06-16 Thread Keith Kramlinger
Thanks again Richard. This looks very good. I had Not come across this when 
searching for shortcuts help. I will spend some time with it. Take care. Keith


On Jun 16, 2024, at 2:50 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Keith,
I have not done the things in this article, but it looks to me like one that 
may help you learn to create and use shortcuts.  Read through it all before you 
follow any of the links as pretty much each link, like to audimated shortcuts, 
is actually explained further down the page.

https://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Shortcut-on-iPhone


I hope it helps.

Later

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you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

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than the new Siri from Tech Radar

Richard,
Thanks very much for this. This is the first I have heard of it. I agree with 
you… I believe this will be most helpful to many of us.

The only problem is that, now I need to learn how to use Shortcuts. The 
problem? I have tried on at least several occasions to learn how to use 
shortcuts, but failed every time. Does anyone have any recommendations for 
tutorials or recommendations for how to begin learning shortcuts to a 
high-level?
Thanks in advance. Keith



On Jun 15, 2024, at 10:47 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new 
Siri
Tech Radar TechRadar the technology experts
By Alex Blake
published 14 June 2024

No need to ask Siri for help

Apple’s iOS 18 update includes a new accessibility feature that’s perfect for 
anyone who wants easier access to their saved shortcuts. Called Vocal 
Shortcuts, it lets you set a custom word that, when spoken, will launch a 
specified shortcut. It’s perfect for power users and people with accessibility 
needs alike.

Apple first announced the feature back in May 2024. In a press release, the 
company said: “With Vocal Shortcuts, iPhone and iPad users can assign custom 
utterances that Siri can understand to launch shortcuts and complete complex 
tasks.” The company didn’t reveal anything else about the feature at the time, 
but now that iOS 18 is available as a developer beta, we can get a better idea 
of how it works.

For instance, you might want to launch a specific app simply by saying its 
name. Or you could use a more precise phrase (like “edit a photo”) to launch a 
set of actions that you’ve previously saved as a shortcut.

At the WWDC 2024 where Apple unveiled iOS 18, a lot of attention was spent on 
how Siri was getting a major revamp thanks to artificial intelligence. The 
company never mentioned Vocal Shortcuts, but it could turn out to be one of the 
best changes coming to Siri for a wide range of people.

Siri finds its voice

If this feature sounds strangely familiar to you, you’re not far off the mark. 
Before iOS 18, you were able to launch shortcuts using your voice, but this 
process involved more steps. You would have to first invoke Siri, then say the 
name of the shortcut you wanted to run. If your device was locked, Siri would 
ask you to unlock it first before the shortcut could be launched.

Now, none of that applies. You don’t need to say “Siri” or “Hey Siri” to use 
Vocal Shortcuts. As well as that, you can say a custom phrase instead of being 
limited to the name of the shortcut, while it even works when your device is 
locked (provided your shortcut doesn’t require your device to be unlocked, such 
as opening an app).

That makes it far more convenient to control your Apple product using just your 
voice. Whether you want a way to launch a shortcut when your iPhone is on the 
other side of the room, or you have accessibility needs that make using your 
voice the best way to manage an iPhone, iPad or Mac, Vocal Shortcuts will 
likely be a welcome addition to your device, especially in combination with the 
other accessibility tools coming in iOS 18.

Together with the wide-ranging AI features coming in iOS 18, it looks like Siri 
might finally be getting the overhaul it’s desperately needed for years. It’ll 
be fascinating to see if it’s enough to catch up with Apple’s rivals.

Alex Blake
Social Links Navigation
Freelance Contributor
Alex Blake has been fooling around with computers since the early 1990s, and 
since that time he's learned a thing or two about tech. No more than two 
things, though. That's all his brain can hold. As well as TechRadar, Alex 
writes for iMore, Digital Trends and Creative Bloq, among othe

RE: This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new Siri from Tech Radar

2024-06-16 Thread Richard Turner
Keith,

I have not done the things in this article, but it looks to me like one that 
may help you learn to create and use shortcuts.  Read through it all before you 
follow any of the links as pretty much each link, like to audimated shortcuts, 
is actually explained further down the page.

 

https://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Shortcut-on-iPhone

 

 

I hope it helps.

 

Later

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful 
than the new Siri from Tech Radar

 

Richard,

Thanks very much for this. This is the first I have heard of it. I agree with 
you… I believe this will be most helpful to many of us.

 

The only problem is that, now I need to learn how to use Shortcuts. The 
problem? I have tried on at least several occasions to learn how to use 
shortcuts, but failed every time. Does anyone have any recommendations for 
tutorials or recommendations for how to begin learning shortcuts to a 
high-level?

Thanks in advance. Keith

 





On Jun 15, 2024, at 10:47 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new 
Siri

Tech Radar TechRadar the technology experts

By Alex Blake

published 14 June 2024

 

No need to ask Siri for help

 

Apple’s iOS 18 update includes a new accessibility feature that’s perfect for 
anyone who wants easier access to their saved shortcuts. Called Vocal 
Shortcuts, it lets you set a custom word that, when spoken, will launch a 
specified shortcut. It’s perfect for power users and people with accessibility 
needs alike.

 

Apple first announced the feature back in May 2024. In a press release, the 
company said: “With Vocal Shortcuts, iPhone and iPad users can assign custom 
utterances that Siri can understand to launch shortcuts and complete complex 
tasks.” The company didn’t reveal anything else about the feature at the time, 
but now that iOS 18 is available as a developer beta, we can get a better idea 
of how it works.

 

For instance, you might want to launch a specific app simply by saying its 
name. Or you could use a more precise phrase (like “edit a photo”) to launch a 
set of actions that you’ve previously saved as a shortcut.

 

At the WWDC 2024 where Apple unveiled iOS 18, a lot of attention was spent on 
how Siri was getting a major revamp thanks to artificial intelligence. The 
company never mentioned Vocal Shortcuts, but it could turn out to be one of the 
best changes coming to Siri for a wide range of people.

 

Siri finds its voice

 

If this feature sounds strangely familiar to you, you’re not far off the mark. 
Before iOS 18, you were able to launch shortcuts using your voice, but this 
process involved more steps. You would have to first invoke Siri, then say the 
name of the shortcut you wanted to run. If your device was locked, Siri would 
ask you to unlock it first before the shortcut could be launched.

 

Now, none of that applies. You don’t need to say “Siri” or “Hey Siri” to use 
Vocal Shortcuts. As well as that, you can say a custom phrase instead of being 
limited to the name of the shortcut, while it even works when your device is 
locked (provided your shortcut doesn’t require your device to be unlocked, such 
as opening an app).

 

That makes it far more convenient to control your Apple product using just your 
voice. Whether you want a way to launch a shortcut when your iPhone is on the 
other side of the room, or you have accessibility needs that make using your 
voice the best way to manage an iPhone, iPad or Mac, Vocal Shortcuts will 
likely be a welcome addition to your device, especially in combination with the 
other accessibility tools coming in iOS 18.

 

Together with the wide-ranging AI features coming in iOS 18, it looks like Siri 
might finally be getting the overhaul it’s desperately needed for years. It’ll 
be fascinating to see if it’s enough to catch up with Apple’s rivals.

 

Alex Blake

Social Links Navigation

Freelance Contributor

Alex Blake has been fooling around with computers since the early 1990s, and 
since that time he's learned a thing or two about tech. No more than two 
things, though. That's all his brain can hold. As well as TechRadar, Alex 
writes for iMore, Digital Trends and Creative Bloq, among others. He was 
previously commissioning editor at MacFormat magazine. That means he mostly 
covers the worl

RE: This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new Siri from Tech Radar

2024-06-16 Thread Richard Turner
The article stated you did not have to use Siri, but since I’m not testing the 
beta and this is a speculative article, it could end up being so, but Voice 
control in general is separate from Siri.  In fact, you don’t even have to have 
VoiceOver on to use Voice Control.  It is directed at people who cannot use the 
normal gestures on the screen nor a keyboard.

 

So, time will tell.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ronald 
van Rhijn
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2024 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful 
than the new Siri from Tech Radar

 

I have read you still have to invoke Siri first.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone





Op 15 jun. 2024 om 17:47 heeft Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > het volgende geschreven:



This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new 
Siri

Tech Radar TechRadar the technology experts

By Alex Blake

published 14 June 2024

 

No need to ask Siri for help

 

Apple’s iOS 18 update includes a new accessibility feature that’s perfect for 
anyone who wants easier access to their saved shortcuts. Called Vocal 
Shortcuts, it lets you set a custom word that, when spoken, will launch a 
specified shortcut. It’s perfect for power users and people with accessibility 
needs alike.

 

Apple first announced the feature back in May 2024. In a press release, the 
company said: “With Vocal Shortcuts, iPhone and iPad users can assign custom 
utterances that Siri can understand to launch shortcuts and complete complex 
tasks.” The company didn’t reveal anything else about the feature at the time, 
but now that iOS 18 is available as a developer beta, we can get a better idea 
of how it works.

 

For instance, you might want to launch a specific app simply by saying its 
name. Or you could use a more precise phrase (like “edit a photo”) to launch a 
set of actions that you’ve previously saved as a shortcut.

 

At the WWDC 2024 where Apple unveiled iOS 18, a lot of attention was spent on 
how Siri was getting a major revamp thanks to artificial intelligence. The 
company never mentioned Vocal Shortcuts, but it could turn out to be one of the 
best changes coming to Siri for a wide range of people.

 

Siri finds its voice

 

If this feature sounds strangely familiar to you, you’re not far off the mark. 
Before iOS 18, you were able to launch shortcuts using your voice, but this 
process involved more steps. You would have to first invoke Siri, then say the 
name of the shortcut you wanted to run. If your device was locked, Siri would 
ask you to unlock it first before the shortcut could be launched.

 

Now, none of that applies. You don’t need to say “Siri” or “Hey Siri” to use 
Vocal Shortcuts. As well as that, you can say a custom phrase instead of being 
limited to the name of the shortcut, while it even works when your device is 
locked (provided your shortcut doesn’t require your device to be unlocked, such 
as opening an app).

 

That makes it far more convenient to control your Apple product using just your 
voice. Whether you want a way to launch a shortcut when your iPhone is on the 
other side of the room, or you have accessibility needs that make using your 
voice the best way to manage an iPhone, iPad or Mac, Vocal Shortcuts will 
likely be a welcome addition to your device, especially in combination with the 
other accessibility tools coming in iOS 18.

 

Together with the wide-ranging AI features coming in iOS 18, it looks like Siri 
might finally be getting the overhaul it’s desperately needed for years. It’ll 
be fascinating to see if it’s enough to catch up with Apple’s rivals.

 

Alex Blake

Social Links Navigation

Freelance Contributor

Alex Blake has been fooling around with computers since the early 1990s, and 
since that time he's learned a thing or two about tech. No more than two 
things, though. That's all his brain can hold. As well as TechRadar, Alex 
writes for iMore, Digital Trends and Creative Bloq, among others. He was 
previously commissioning editor at MacFormat magazine. That means he mostly 
covers the world of Apple and its latest products, but also Windows, computer 
peripherals, mobile apps, and much more beyond. When not writing, you can find 
him hiking the English countryside and gaming on his PC.

 

Original source:

https://www.techradar.com/phones/this-new-ios-18-voice-control-feature-could-be-even-more-useful-than-the-new-siri

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great 

Re: This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new Siri from Tech Radar

2024-06-16 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
I have read you still have to invoke Siri first.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 15 jun. 2024 om 17:47 heeft Richard Turner  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new 
> Siri
> Tech Radar TechRadar the technology experts
> By Alex Blake
> published 14 June 2024
>  
> No need to ask Siri for help
>  
> Apple’s iOS 18 update includes a new accessibility feature that’s perfect for 
> anyone who wants easier access to their saved shortcuts. Called Vocal 
> Shortcuts, it lets you set a custom word that, when spoken, will launch a 
> specified shortcut. It’s perfect for power users and people with 
> accessibility needs alike.
>  
> Apple first announced the feature back in May 2024. In a press release, the 
> company said: “With Vocal Shortcuts, iPhone and iPad users can assign custom 
> utterances that Siri can understand to launch shortcuts and complete complex 
> tasks.” The company didn’t reveal anything else about the feature at the 
> time, but now that iOS 18 is available as a developer beta, we can get a 
> better idea of how it works.
>  
> For instance, you might want to launch a specific app simply by saying its 
> name. Or you could use a more precise phrase (like “edit a photo”) to launch 
> a set of actions that you’ve previously saved as a shortcut.
>  
> At the WWDC 2024 where Apple unveiled iOS 18, a lot of attention was spent on 
> how Siri was getting a major revamp thanks to artificial intelligence. The 
> company never mentioned Vocal Shortcuts, but it could turn out to be one of 
> the best changes coming to Siri for a wide range of people.
>  
> Siri finds its voice
>  
> If this feature sounds strangely familiar to you, you’re not far off the 
> mark. Before iOS 18, you were able to launch shortcuts using your voice, but 
> this process involved more steps. You would have to first invoke Siri, then 
> say the name of the shortcut you wanted to run. If your device was locked, 
> Siri would ask you to unlock it first before the shortcut could be launched.
>  
> Now, none of that applies. You don’t need to say “Siri” or “Hey Siri” to use 
> Vocal Shortcuts. As well as that, you can say a custom phrase instead of 
> being limited to the name of the shortcut, while it even works when your 
> device is locked (provided your shortcut doesn’t require your device to be 
> unlocked, such as opening an app).
>  
> That makes it far more convenient to control your Apple product using just 
> your voice. Whether you want a way to launch a shortcut when your iPhone is 
> on the other side of the room, or you have accessibility needs that make 
> using your voice the best way to manage an iPhone, iPad or Mac, Vocal 
> Shortcuts will likely be a welcome addition to your device, especially in 
> combination with the other accessibility tools coming in iOS 18.
>  
> Together with the wide-ranging AI features coming in iOS 18, it looks like 
> Siri might finally be getting the overhaul it’s desperately needed for years. 
> It’ll be fascinating to see if it’s enough to catch up with Apple’s rivals.
>  
> Alex Blake
> Social Links Navigation
> Freelance Contributor
> Alex Blake has been fooling around with computers since the early 1990s, and 
> since that time he's learned a thing or two about tech. No more than two 
> things, though. That's all his brain can hold. As well as TechRadar, Alex 
> writes for iMore, Digital Trends and Creative Bloq, among others. He was 
> previously commissioning editor at MacFormat magazine. That means he mostly 
> covers the world of Apple and its latest products, but also Windows, computer 
> peripherals, mobile apps, and much more beyond. When not writing, you can 
> find him hiking the English countryside and gaming on his PC.
>  
> Original source:
> https://www.techradar.com/phones/this-new-ios-18-voice-control-feature-could-be-even-more-useful-than-the-new-siri
>  
> Richard, USA
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
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Re: This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new Siri from Tech Radar

2024-06-15 Thread Keith Kramlinger
Richard,
Thanks very much for this. This is the first I have heard of it. I agree with 
you… I believe this will be most helpful to many of us.

The only problem is that, now I need to learn how to use Shortcuts. The 
problem? I have tried on at least several occasions to learn how to use 
shortcuts, but failed every time. Does anyone have any recommendations for 
tutorials or recommendations for how to begin learning shortcuts to a 
high-level?
Thanks in advance. Keith


On Jun 15, 2024, at 10:47 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new 
Siri
Tech Radar TechRadar the technology experts
By Alex Blake
published 14 June 2024

No need to ask Siri for help

Apple’s iOS 18 update includes a new accessibility feature that’s perfect for 
anyone who wants easier access to their saved shortcuts. Called Vocal 
Shortcuts, it lets you set a custom word that, when spoken, will launch a 
specified shortcut. It’s perfect for power users and people with accessibility 
needs alike.

Apple first announced the feature back in May 2024. In a press release, the 
company said: “With Vocal Shortcuts, iPhone and iPad users can assign custom 
utterances that Siri can understand to launch shortcuts and complete complex 
tasks.” The company didn’t reveal anything else about the feature at the time, 
but now that iOS 18 is available as a developer beta, we can get a better idea 
of how it works.

For instance, you might want to launch a specific app simply by saying its 
name. Or you could use a more precise phrase (like “edit a photo”) to launch a 
set of actions that you’ve previously saved as a shortcut.

At the WWDC 2024 where Apple unveiled iOS 18, a lot of attention was spent on 
how Siri was getting a major revamp thanks to artificial intelligence. The 
company never mentioned Vocal Shortcuts, but it could turn out to be one of the 
best changes coming to Siri for a wide range of people.

Siri finds its voice

If this feature sounds strangely familiar to you, you’re not far off the mark. 
Before iOS 18, you were able to launch shortcuts using your voice, but this 
process involved more steps. You would have to first invoke Siri, then say the 
name of the shortcut you wanted to run. If your device was locked, Siri would 
ask you to unlock it first before the shortcut could be launched.

Now, none of that applies. You don’t need to say “Siri” or “Hey Siri” to use 
Vocal Shortcuts. As well as that, you can say a custom phrase instead of being 
limited to the name of the shortcut, while it even works when your device is 
locked (provided your shortcut doesn’t require your device to be unlocked, such 
as opening an app).

That makes it far more convenient to control your Apple product using just your 
voice. Whether you want a way to launch a shortcut when your iPhone is on the 
other side of the room, or you have accessibility needs that make using your 
voice the best way to manage an iPhone, iPad or Mac, Vocal Shortcuts will 
likely be a welcome addition to your device, especially in combination with the 
other accessibility tools coming in iOS 18.

Together with the wide-ranging AI features coming in iOS 18, it looks like Siri 
might finally be getting the overhaul it’s desperately needed for years. It’ll 
be fascinating to see if it’s enough to catch up with Apple’s rivals.

Alex Blake
Social Links Navigation
Freelance Contributor
Alex Blake has been fooling around with computers since the early 1990s, and 
since that time he's learned a thing or two about tech. No more than two 
things, though. That's all his brain can hold. As well as TechRadar, Alex 
writes for iMore, Digital Trends and Creative Bloq, among others. He was 
previously commissioning editor at MacFormat magazine. That means he mostly 
covers the world of Apple and its latest products, but also Windows, computer 
peripherals, mobile apps, and much more beyond. When not writing, you can find 
him hiking the English countryside and gaming on his PC.

Original source:
https://www.techradar.com/phones/this-new-ios-18-voice-control-feature-could-be-even-more-useful-than-the-new-siri

Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


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This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new Siri from Tech Radar

2024-06-15 Thread Richard Turner
This new iOS 18 voice-control feature could be even more useful than the new
Siri

Tech Radar TechRadar the technology experts

By Alex Blake

published 14 June 2024

 

No need to ask Siri for help

 

Apple's iOS 18 update includes a new accessibility feature that's perfect
for anyone who wants easier access to their saved shortcuts. Called Vocal
Shortcuts, it lets you set a custom word that, when spoken, will launch a
specified shortcut. It's perfect for power users and people with
accessibility needs alike.

 

Apple first announced the feature back in May 2024. In a press release, the
company said: "With Vocal Shortcuts, iPhone and iPad users can assign custom
utterances that Siri can understand to launch shortcuts and complete complex
tasks." The company didn't reveal anything else about the feature at the
time, but now that iOS 18 is available as a developer beta, we can get a
better idea of how it works.

 

For instance, you might want to launch a specific app simply by saying its
name. Or you could use a more precise phrase (like "edit a photo") to launch
a set of actions that you've previously saved as a shortcut.

 

At the WWDC 2024 where Apple unveiled iOS 18, a lot of attention was spent
on how Siri was getting a major revamp thanks to artificial intelligence.
The company never mentioned Vocal Shortcuts, but it could turn out to be one
of the best changes coming to Siri for a wide range of people.

 

Siri finds its voice

 

If this feature sounds strangely familiar to you, you're not far off the
mark. Before iOS 18, you were able to launch shortcuts using your voice, but
this process involved more steps. You would have to first invoke Siri, then
say the name of the shortcut you wanted to run. If your device was locked,
Siri would ask you to unlock it first before the shortcut could be launched.

 

Now, none of that applies. You don't need to say "Siri" or "Hey Siri" to use
Vocal Shortcuts. As well as that, you can say a custom phrase instead of
being limited to the name of the shortcut, while it even works when your
device is locked (provided your shortcut doesn't require your device to be
unlocked, such as opening an app).

 

That makes it far more convenient to control your Apple product using just
your voice. Whether you want a way to launch a shortcut when your iPhone is
on the other side of the room, or you have accessibility needs that make
using your voice the best way to manage an iPhone, iPad or Mac, Vocal
Shortcuts will likely be a welcome addition to your device, especially in
combination with the other accessibility tools coming in iOS 18.

 

Together with the wide-ranging AI features coming in iOS 18, it looks like
Siri might finally be getting the overhaul it's desperately needed for
years. It'll be fascinating to see if it's enough to catch up with Apple's
rivals.

 

Alex Blake

Social Links Navigation

Freelance Contributor

Alex Blake has been fooling around with computers since the early 1990s, and
since that time he's learned a thing or two about tech. No more than two
things, though. That's all his brain can hold. As well as TechRadar, Alex
writes for iMore, Digital Trends and Creative Bloq, among others. He was
previously commissioning editor at MacFormat magazine. That means he mostly
covers the world of Apple and its latest products, but also Windows,
computer peripherals, mobile apps, and much more beyond. When not writing,
you can find him hiking the English countryside and gaming on his PC.

 

Original source:

https://www.techradar.com/phones/this-new-ios-18-voice-control-feature-could
-be-even-more-useful-than-the-new-siri

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less
than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight
fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life."
-- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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Harry Bell's Voice Control Tutorial

2022-05-31 Thread Richard Turner
Greetings,

 

Harry Bell has created a tutorial to help those wishing to use the Voice
Control feature of Apple devices with VoiceOver.

He gave me permission to put it on my web site.

You will find it in two formats.  Microsoft Word and as its own html page.

It is in the first section of my web site under iOS and keyboard commands.
Maybe I will add another section, but it works there for now.

Link is in my signature.

 

 

Richard

 

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Voice control questions

2021-03-26 Thread dean martineau
I am experimenting with voice control using in SE 2020. I think the feature has 
great potential, but there are some things I haven't figured out. For one 
thing, how do you direct Voice control to  accept spelled words when you need 
to ensure proper recognition? I also find that I don't get any dictation 
feedback. Jonathan MOSEN does when he does his demonstrations,  and I wonder if 
it's because of my phone. Anyway, I would appreciate any suggestions from 
people who use this feature to manage email and text messages among other 
things.

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RE: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps

2021-02-15 Thread marco.curr
Hi,

 �

If you want to find out more about this app, I am on a show where we 
interviewed the developer late last year.

 �

I invite you to check out https://www.blindtechguys.com/59 for further info.

 �

Many thanks,

 �

Marco

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Lemly
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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 �

Hi Simran,

 �

Since this is a list discussing devices and apps running under iOS, I don't 
expect you'll find much comment on the Louis Voice Control app which is only 
available for Android devices.

 �

Alan Lemly  �

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Subject: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps 

 �

Hi Friends

Some time back, I came across a very interesting app on Google Play Store by 
the name of "Louie Voice Control” and I've been using it consistently since 
then. Are there any other users of it in this Group? If yes, please inform. I 
would like to understand what all features you have already tried out as I'm 
still new with this App and learning about more & more helpful features on a 
daily basis. 

So Louie is all about controlling popular Apps & phone functionality with just 
voice commands. The best part is that its designed keeping special needs of for 
visually impaired like us in mind. � I heard the Founder of Louie saying in his 
video that he is visually impaired himself and has built this app to solve his 
own visual impairment problems. I loved watching his video as it gave a very 
simple demonstration of the App & also suggested how it's different from Alexa, 
Siri & Google Assistant. And I truly agree with what all he said as there's no 
comparison. Louie is much more customized for VI users & not generic like other 
voice assistants.

Louie supports Uber, YouTube, WhatsApp, Contacts & Phone Calling as of now with 
many more phone functionalities. And many more apps are on the way as informed 
in the Founder's video.

I'm personally using Louie for many things which earlier were really difficult 
for me to manage on my own like sharing my live location on WhatsApp, reading 
and describing images received, � skipping YouTube ads, saving and editing my 
contacts, checking my exact location, booking uber without any hassle & calling 
the driver to confirm my location etc.

You can see Louie in action here, I copied this link from their YouTuve Channel:
https://youtu.be/F0-y7087Kzg

On top of it all, its available on Google Play Store for a free download:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie 
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US>
 &hl=en_IN&gl=US


Thanks and Regards
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Re: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps

2021-02-15 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Simran,

Since this is a list discussing devices and apps running under iOS, I don't 
expect you'll find much comment on the Louis Voice Control app which is only 
available for Android devices.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 5:21:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps

Hi Friends

Some time back, I came across a very interesting app on Google Play Store by 
the name of "Louie Voice Control” and I've been using it consistently since 
then. Are there any other users of it in this Group? If yes, please inform. I 
would like to understand what all features you have already tried out as I'm 
still new with this App and learning about more & more helpful features on a 
daily basis.

So Louie is all about controlling popular Apps & phone functionality with just 
voice commands. The best part is that its designed keeping special needs of for 
visually impaired like us in mind.  I heard the Founder of Louie saying in his 
video that he is visually impaired himself and has built this app to solve his 
own visual impairment problems. I loved watching his video as it gave a very 
simple demonstration of the App & also suggested how it's different from Alexa, 
Siri & Google Assistant. And I truly agree with what all he said as there's no 
comparison. Louie is much more customized for VI users & not generic like other 
voice assistants.

Louie supports Uber, YouTube, WhatsApp, Contacts & Phone Calling as of now with 
many more phone functionalities. And many more apps are on the way as informed 
in the Founder's video.

I'm personally using Louie for many things which earlier were really difficult 
for me to manage on my own like sharing my live location on WhatsApp, reading 
and describing images received,  skipping YouTube ads, saving and editing my 
contacts, checking my exact location, booking uber without any hassle & calling 
the driver to confirm my location etc.

You can see Louie in action here, I copied this link from their YouTuve Channel:
https://youtu.be/F0-y7087Kzg

On top of it all, its available on Google Play Store for a free download:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US


Thanks and Regards
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RE: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps

2021-02-15 Thread Johna Gravitt
Pramit,
Thank you for your quick response.  I look forward to trying out your app on my 
iPhone.
Johna


-Original Message-
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BHARGAVA
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps

Hi Friends, 
I’m Pramit, the founder of Louie Voice Control.

@Simran, thank you for sharing about Louie. Looking forward to your feedback on 
the app.

@Johna, Louie is currently available on Android. We’ll start doing the 
technical feasibility for IOS in the second half of this year and hopefully get 
it out for Iphones as well.

Regards
Pramit

> On 15-Feb-2021, at 17:06, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> This app sounds interest resting.  Is it also available for the iPhone?
> Johna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of simran 
> chawla
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 6:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps
> 
> Hi Friends
> 
> Some time back, I came across a very interesting app on Google Play Store by 
> the name of "Louie Voice Control” and I've been using it consistently since 
> then. Are there any other users of it in this Group? If yes, please inform. I 
> would like to understand what all features you have already tried out as I'm 
> still new with this App and learning about more & more helpful features on a 
> daily basis.
> 
> So Louie is all about controlling popular Apps & phone functionality with 
> just voice commands. The best part is that its designed keeping special needs 
> of for visually impaired like us in mind.  I heard the Founder of Louie 
> saying in his video that he is visually impaired himself and has built this 
> app to solve his own visual impairment problems. I loved watching his video 
> as it gave a very simple demonstration of the App & also suggested how it's 
> different from Alexa, Siri & Google Assistant. And I truly agree with what 
> all he said as there's no comparison. Louie is much more customized for VI 
> users & not generic like other voice assistants.
> 
> Louie supports Uber, YouTube, WhatsApp, Contacts & Phone Calling as of now 
> with many more phone functionalities. And many more apps are on the way as 
> informed in the Founder's video.
> 
> I'm personally using Louie for many things which earlier were really 
> difficult for me to manage on my own like sharing my live location on 
> WhatsApp, reading and describing images received,  skipping YouTube ads, 
> saving and editing my contacts, checking my exact location, booking uber 
> without any hassle & calling the driver to confirm my location etc.
> 
> You can see Louie in action here, I copied this link from their YouTuve 
> Channel:
> https://youtu.be/F0-y7087Kzg
> 
> On top of it all, its available on Google Play Store for a free download:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US
> 
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Simran Chawla
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Re: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps

2021-02-15 Thread PRAMIT BHARGAVA
Hi Friends, 
I’m Pramit, the founder of Louie Voice Control.

@Simran, thank you for sharing about Louie. Looking forward to your feedback on 
the app.

@Johna, Louie is currently available on Android. We’ll start doing the 
technical feasibility for IOS in the second half of this year and hopefully get 
it out for Iphones as well.

Regards
Pramit

> On 15-Feb-2021, at 17:06, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> This app sounds interest resting.  Is it also available for the iPhone?
> Johna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of simran 
> chawla
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 6:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps
> 
> Hi Friends
> 
> Some time back, I came across a very interesting app on Google Play Store by 
> the name of "Louie Voice Control” and I've been using it consistently since 
> then. Are there any other users of it in this Group? If yes, please inform. I 
> would like to understand what all features you have already tried out as I'm 
> still new with this App and learning about more & more helpful features on a 
> daily basis.
> 
> So Louie is all about controlling popular Apps & phone functionality with 
> just voice commands. The best part is that its designed keeping special needs 
> of for visually impaired like us in mind.  I heard the Founder of Louie 
> saying in his video that he is visually impaired himself and has built this 
> app to solve his own visual impairment problems. I loved watching his video 
> as it gave a very simple demonstration of the App & also suggested how it's 
> different from Alexa, Siri & Google Assistant. And I truly agree with what 
> all he said as there's no comparison. Louie is much more customized for VI 
> users & not generic like other voice assistants.
> 
> Louie supports Uber, YouTube, WhatsApp, Contacts & Phone Calling as of now 
> with many more phone functionalities. And many more apps are on the way as 
> informed in the Founder's video.
> 
> I'm personally using Louie for many things which earlier were really 
> difficult for me to manage on my own like sharing my live location on 
> WhatsApp, reading and describing images received,  skipping YouTube ads, 
> saving and editing my contacts, checking my exact location, booking uber 
> without any hassle & calling the driver to confirm my location etc.
> 
> You can see Louie in action here, I copied this link from their YouTuve 
> Channel:
> https://youtu.be/F0-y7087Kzg
> 
> On top of it all, its available on Google Play Store for a free download:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US
> 
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Simran Chawla
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RE: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps

2021-02-15 Thread Johna Gravitt
Hi,
This app sounds interest resting.  Is it also available for the iPhone?
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of simran 
chawla
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps

Hi Friends

Some time back, I came across a very interesting app on Google Play Store by 
the name of "Louie Voice Control” and I've been using it consistently since 
then. Are there any other users of it in this Group? If yes, please inform. I 
would like to understand what all features you have already tried out as I'm 
still new with this App and learning about more & more helpful features on a 
daily basis. 

So Louie is all about controlling popular Apps & phone functionality with just 
voice commands. The best part is that its designed keeping special needs of for 
visually impaired like us in mind.  I heard the Founder of Louie saying in his 
video that he is visually impaired himself and has built this app to solve his 
own visual impairment problems. I loved watching his video as it gave a very 
simple demonstration of the App & also suggested how it's different from Alexa, 
Siri & Google Assistant. And I truly agree with what all he said as there's no 
comparison. Louie is much more customized for VI users & not generic like other 
voice assistants.

Louie supports Uber, YouTube, WhatsApp, Contacts & Phone Calling as of now with 
many more phone functionalities. And many more apps are on the way as informed 
in the Founder's video.

I'm personally using Louie for many things which earlier were really difficult 
for me to manage on my own like sharing my live location on WhatsApp, reading 
and describing images received,  skipping YouTube ads, saving and editing my 
contacts, checking my exact location, booking uber without any hassle & calling 
the driver to confirm my location etc.

You can see Louie in action here, I copied this link from their YouTuve Channel:
https://youtu.be/F0-y7087Kzg

On top of it all, its available on Google Play Store for a free download:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US


Thanks and Regards
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Louie Voice Control-A New App to Voice Control Various Phone Apps

2021-02-15 Thread simran chawla
Hi Friends

Some time back, I came across a very interesting app on Google Play Store by 
the name of "Louie Voice Control” and I've been using it consistently since 
then. Are there any other users of it in this Group? If yes, please inform. I 
would like to understand what all features you have already tried out as I'm 
still new with this App and learning about more & more helpful features on a 
daily basis. 

So Louie is all about controlling popular Apps & phone functionality with just 
voice commands. The best part is that its designed keeping special needs of for 
visually impaired like us in mind.  I heard the Founder of Louie saying in his 
video that he is visually impaired himself and has built this app to solve his 
own visual impairment problems. I loved watching his video as it gave a very 
simple demonstration of the App & also suggested how it's different from Alexa, 
Siri & Google Assistant. And I truly agree with what all he said as there's no 
comparison. Louie is much more customized for VI users & not generic like other 
voice assistants.

Louie supports Uber, YouTube, WhatsApp, Contacts & Phone Calling as of now with 
many more phone functionalities. And many more apps are on the way as informed 
in the Founder's video.

I'm personally using Louie for many things which earlier were really difficult 
for me to manage on my own like sharing my live location on WhatsApp, reading 
and describing images received,  skipping YouTube ads, saving and editing my 
contacts, checking my exact location, booking uber without any hassle & calling 
the driver to confirm my location etc.

You can see Louie in action here, I copied this link from their YouTuve Channel:
https://youtu.be/F0-y7087Kzg

On top of it all, its available on Google Play Store for a free download:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US


Thanks and Regards
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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-22 Thread PRAMIT BHARGAVA
Dear Richard and All,

Apologies for not stating Android Only in the subject line!

Adding below the difference between Voice Control and Louie

There are significant differences with Voice Control.

a. Voice control is essentially designed for sighted, motor disabled people.

b. Voice control does not take human-like voice commands as in Louie but
the user has to speak out the specific button or earlier a number on screen.

c. Let me illustrate the difference between Louie and voice control with a
conceptual example

Let's say a user needs a glass of water. In case of Louie the user just
needs to say get me a glass of water and Louie will be able to perform the
task. In contrast to get the same result from voice control, a user has to
give voice control a number of voice commands as illustrated below:

Get up from chair
Stand straight
Move left foot forward
move right foot forward and so on

 Also, Louie can do each and everything within a supported app with just
voice commands and with continuous 2 way voice interaction with the user.

Kind Regards,
Pramit



On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 8:51 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> I realize that many people who have Apple devices also have Android, but
> posting an announcement of an app that is only available on Android to an
> Apple device list without stating that in the subject is simply rude.
> Plus, how is this different than what iOS's Siri and/or Voice Control
> already does?
>
>
> Richard
>
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> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
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> when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> On Jan 20, 2021, at 5:18 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>
> 
> Harry,
>
> The app isn’t in the Apple app store. The beta version of the app for IOS
> won’t be released until later this year. I also have an android phone, so
> Ive been able to use the app. The app is very useful!
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> 
> Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS
> uk App Store.
> Harry
>
> On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Friends,
>
> I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I
> always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite
> apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.
>
> See Louie in Action:
> https://rb.gy/dfahp1
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frb.gy%2Fdfahp1&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf48e046a88e74bea698c08d8bd45e804%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637467455241590891%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ywc9DVcaZMXICadOd0ZIBU1kwbphNFob5q%2Fe1jwRtOo%3D&reserved=0>
>
> I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I
> get more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder
> on enhancing the app.
>
> Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all
> voice lovers.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you.
> My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91
> 9811886001
>
> Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name
> "Louie".
>
> Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.visioapps.louie%26hl%3Den_IN%26gl%3DUS&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf48e046a88e74bea698c08d8bd45e804%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637467455241600886%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3dbCGFQtlDGlOhTGsPODKCMXi%2BULahhKGC3C5xb7qiI%3D&reserved=0>
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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-21 Thread Donna Casteen
Here are 2 links that describe the app Louie voice control...

https://youtu.be/FybjTs3xlss

https://youtu.be/HV7y3QctgqE

Donna


> 
> 
> hi,
>  
> How is this program different than the apples voice control function? since 
> it's not on apple was just wondering.
> - Original Message -
> From: Donna Casteen
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired
> 
> Harry,
> 
> The app isn’t in the Apple app store. The beta version of the app for IOS 
> won’t be released until later this year. I also have an android phone, so Ive 
> been able to use the app. The app is very useful!
> 
> Donna
>   
>> 
>> 
>> Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS uk 
>> App Store. 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Friends, 
>>> 
>>> I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I 
>>> always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite 
>>> apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.
>>> 
>>> See Louie in Action:
>>> https://rb.gy/dfahp1
>>> 
>>> I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I 
>>> get more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder 
>>> on enhancing the app.
>>> 
>>> Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all 
>>> voice lovers.
>>> 
>>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>> My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91 
>>> 9811886001
>>> 
>>> Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name 
>>> "Louie".
>>> 
>>> Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Pramit
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RE: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-20 Thread Richard Turner
I listened to much of the demo.
This sounds like a good app for Android devices.
I honestly do not see how this will be an advantage over VoiceOver, Siri, 
and/or the Apple Voice Control feature.
I hoe the project is successful on Android.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:21 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

Great work and we from Blind Tech Guys wish you the best of luck with this 
project and congratulate you on your endeavour to get it out.
On Thursday, 21 January 2021 at 4:14:33 am UTC+11 B. J. Maynard wrote:
hi,

How is this program different than the apples voice control function? since 
it's not on apple was just wondering.
- Original Message -
From: Donna Casteen
To: vip...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

Harry,

The app isn’t in the Apple app store. The beta version of the app for IOS won’t 
be released until later this year. I also have an android phone, so Ive been 
able to use the app. The app is very useful!

Donna



Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS uk App 
Store.
Harry


On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:

Hi Friends,

I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I 
always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite apps 
and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.

See Louie in Action:
https://rb.gy/dfahp1<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frb.gy%2Fdfahp1&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca453aa51bb9b464d895908d8bd80dc42%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637467708427694647%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=15Q8kbNBqfKx%2BVimTUpeyh9YR3LnpuR3J8k9aNS9fqI%3D&reserved=0>

I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I get 
more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder on 
enhancing the app.

Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all 
voice lovers.

I look forward to hearing from you.
My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91 9811886001

Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name 
"Louie".

Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.visioapps.louie%26hl%3Den_IN%26gl%3DUS&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca453aa51bb9b464d895908d8bd80dc42%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637467708427704641%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BW1fNPHIgX5nepKiyMUd8tUampVAM0qVl43n5lJvtx0%3D&reserved=0>

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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-20 Thread Marco Curralejo
Great work and we from Blind Tech Guys wish you the best of luck with this 
project and congratulate you on your endeavour to get it out.

On Thursday, 21 January 2021 at 4:14:33 am UTC+11 B. J. Maynard wrote:

> hi,
>  
> How is this program different than the apples voice control function? 
> since it's not on apple was just wondering.
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Donna Casteen 
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:18 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired
>
> Harry,
>
> The app isn’t in the Apple app store. The beta version of the app for IOS 
> won’t be released until later this year. I also have an android phone, so 
> Ive been able to use the app. The app is very useful!
>
> Donna
>   
>
>
>  
> Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS 
> uk App Store. 
> Harry
>
> On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
>
>  
> Hi Friends,  
>
> I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I 
> always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite 
> apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.
>
> See Louie in Action:
> https://rb.gy/dfahp1
>
> I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I 
> get more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder 
> on enhancing the app.
>
> Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all 
> voice lovers.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you.
> My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91 
> 9811886001
>
> Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name 
> "Louie".
>
> Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US
>
> Kind Regards,
> Pramit
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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-20 Thread B. J. Maynard
  hi,

  How is this program different than the apples voice control function? since 
it's not on apple was just wondering.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Donna Casteen 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:18 AM
  Subject: Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired


  Harry,


  The app isn’t in the Apple app store. The beta version of the app for IOS 
won’t be released until later this year. I also have an android phone, so Ive 
been able to use the app. The app is very useful!


  Donna




Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS uk 
App Store. 
Harry


  On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:


  
  Hi Friends, 


  I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, 
I always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite 
apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.

  See Louie in Action:
  https://rb.gy/dfahp1

  I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I 
get more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder on 
enhancing the app.

  Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and 
all voice lovers.

  I look forward to hearing from you.
  My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91 
9811886001

  Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the 
name "Louie".

  Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
  
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US



  Kind Regards,
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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-20 Thread Richard Turner
I realize that many people who have Apple devices also have Android, but 
posting an announcement of an app that is only available on Android to an Apple 
device list without stating that in the subject is simply rude.
Plus, how is this different than what iOS's Siri and/or Voice Control already 
does?


Richard

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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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On Jan 20, 2021, at 5:18 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:


Harry,

The app isn’t in the Apple app store. The beta version of the app for IOS won’t 
be released until later this year. I also have an android phone, so Ive been 
able to use the app. The app is very useful!

Donna



Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS uk App 
Store.
Harry

On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:


Hi Friends,

I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I 
always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite apps 
and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.

See Louie in Action:
https://rb.gy/dfahp1<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frb.gy%2Fdfahp1&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf48e046a88e74bea698c08d8bd45e804%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637467455241590891%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ywc9DVcaZMXICadOd0ZIBU1kwbphNFob5q%2Fe1jwRtOo%3D&reserved=0>

I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I get 
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enhancing the app.

Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all 
voice lovers.

I look forward to hearing from you.
My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com<mailto:pra...@louievoice.com> or 
WhatsApp / Call: +91 9811886001

Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name 
"Louie".

Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.visioapps.louie%26hl%3Den_IN%26gl%3DUS&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf48e046a88e74bea698c08d8bd45e804%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637467455241600886%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3dbCGFQtlDGlOhTGsPODKCMXi%2BULahhKGC3C5xb7qiI%3D&reserved=0>

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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-20 Thread Donna Casteen
Harry,

The app isn’t in the Apple app store. The beta version of the app for IOS won’t 
be released until later this year. I also have an android phone, so Ive been 
able to use the app. The app is very useful!

Donna
  
> 
> 
> Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS uk 
> App Store. 
> Harry
> 
>>> On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Friends, 
>> 
>> I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I 
>> always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite 
>> apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.
>> 
>> See Louie in Action:
>> https://rb.gy/dfahp1
>> 
>> I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I 
>> get more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder on 
>> enhancing the app.
>> 
>> Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all 
>> voice lovers.
>> 
>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>> My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91 
>> 9811886001
>> 
>> Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name 
>> "Louie".
>> 
>> Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Pramit
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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-20 Thread PRAMIT BHARGAVA
Hi Harry,
Its currently available in android. We would be working on the technical 
feasibility for Iphone in the second half of this year and will take it out on 
App Store as well.

Regards
Pramit

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20-Jan-2021, at 15:11, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS uk 
> App Store. 
> Harry
> 
>>> On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Friends, 
>> 
>> I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I 
>> always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite 
>> apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.
>> 
>> See Louie in Action:
>> https://rb.gy/dfahp1
>> 
>> I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I 
>> get more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder on 
>> enhancing the app.
>> 
>> Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all 
>> voice lovers.
>> 
>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>> My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91 
>> 9811886001
>> 
>> Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name 
>> "Louie".
>> 
>> Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Pramit
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Re: Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-20 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Your app sounds great though it does not appear when I search on the iOS uk App 
Store. 
Harry

> On 20 Jan 2021, at 08:18, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Friends, 
> 
> I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I 
> always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite 
> apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.
> 
> See Louie in Action:
> https://rb.gy/dfahp1
> 
> I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I get 
> more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder on 
> enhancing the app.
> 
> Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all 
> voice lovers.
> 
> I look forward to hearing from you.
> My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91 
> 9811886001
> 
> Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name 
> "Louie".
> 
> Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Pramit
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Louie Voice Control: An App for Visually Impaired

2021-01-20 Thread PRAMIT BHARGAVA
Hi Friends,

I am Pramit, the Founder of Louie Voice Control. As a Visually Impaired, I
always felt the need for an app that will allow a user to control favorite
apps and phone with just voice commands. Thus Louie was born.

See Louie in Action:
https://rb.gy/dfahp1

I request your suggestions & support to spread the word about Louie. As I
get more and better feedback, it encourages my team and me to work harder
on enhancing the app.

Louie is also beneficial for people with Motor-Disability, Elderly and all
voice lovers.

I look forward to hearing from you.
My contacts are Email: pra...@louievoice.com or WhatsApp / Call: +91
9811886001

Louis Braille, the inventor of braille, is the inspiration behind the name
"Louie".

Here’s the Free Download Link of Louie Voice Control from Play Store –
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visioapps.louie&hl=en_IN&gl=US

Kind Regards,
Pramit

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Re: Iphone and voice control

2020-12-20 Thread doug parisian
Not sure I agree that voice recognition can be made to work perfectly 
with VoiceOver without headphones.  I think that, in order to be certain 
of no conflicts between voice control and VoiceOver, Voice Control will 
need to recognize and filter out any spoken information given by 
voiceover regardless of which voice the user selects.  I love using 
voice control when wearing some type of head set.


On 2020-12-20 2:13 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You definitely get better results if you wear headphones, in my opinion Voice 
Control which is primarily designed for people who can't control their phone 
due to physical reasons but who can see the screen is amazing, but it's not 
quite ready for prime time for visually impaired users who rely on Voiceover. 
Whether it will ever be is hard to say, one should never say never, but I found 
it is way too much trouble to be worth it for me.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Edward 
Przybylek
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Hi,

Can Voice Control and VoiceOver be used at the same time or does one need to 
wear headphones to do this?  Thank you.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone and voice control

You can do just about anything because with voice control, left right and 
double tap. Turn it on and try it for yourself. I don't know if you can tell 
it's a triple tap


On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:09 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:

Hi friends,

I wish to know as to what all can we do using voice control function
of our Iphone?  Can I operate apps?  Can I try booking an Uber ride?
The work with Siri is not upto the mark.  I will appreciate some help.

With best wishes,

Ketan

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Re: Iphone and voice control

2020-12-20 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello, I tried in a while back on my iPhone SE and I had no problem. Without 
headphones or with voiceover using voice control. Maybe one day when you're not 
busy working, I can help you gain confidence. If it is something that you're 
wondering about learning.

> On Dec 20, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You definitely get better results if you wear headphones, in my opinion Voice 
> Control which is primarily designed for people who can't control their phone 
> due to physical reasons but who can see the screen is amazing, but it's not 
> quite ready for prime time for visually impaired users who rely on Voiceover. 
> Whether it will ever be is hard to say, one should never say never, but I 
> found it is way too much trouble to be worth it for me.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Edward 
> Przybylek
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 11:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Iphone and voice control
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can Voice Control and VoiceOver be used at the same time or does one need to 
> wear headphones to do this?  Thank you.
> 
> Take care,
> Ed Przybylek
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone and voice control
> 
> You can do just about anything because with voice control, left right and 
> double tap. Turn it on and try it for yourself. I don't know if you can tell 
> it's a triple tap
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:09 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I wish to know as to what all can we do using voice control function 
>> of our Iphone?  Can I operate apps?  Can I try booking an Uber ride?
>> The work with Siri is not upto the mark.  I will appreciate some help.
>> 
>> With best wishes,
>> 
>> Ketan
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RE: Iphone and voice control

2020-12-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You definitely get better results if you wear headphones, in my opinion Voice 
Control which is primarily designed for people who can't control their phone 
due to physical reasons but who can see the screen is amazing, but it's not 
quite ready for prime time for visually impaired users who rely on Voiceover. 
Whether it will ever be is hard to say, one should never say never, but I found 
it is way too much trouble to be worth it for me.

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Hi,

Can Voice Control and VoiceOver be used at the same time or does one need to 
wear headphones to do this?  Thank you.

Take care,
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You can do just about anything because with voice control, left right and 
double tap. Turn it on and try it for yourself. I don't know if you can tell 
it's a triple tap

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RE: Iphone and voice control

2020-12-20 Thread Edward Przybylek
Hi,

Can Voice Control and VoiceOver be used at the same time or does one need to 
wear headphones to do this?  Thank you.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek


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You can do just about anything because with voice control, left right and 
double tap. Turn it on and try it for yourself. I don't know if you can tell 
it's a triple tap

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:09 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
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> of our Iphone?  Can I operate apps?  Can I try booking an Uber ride?
> The work with Siri is not upto the mark.  I will appreciate some help.
> 
> With best wishes,
> 
> Ketan
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Re: Iphone and voice control

2020-12-18 Thread Joseph Hudson
You can do just about anything because with voice control, left right and 
double tap. Turn it on and try it for yourself. I don't know if you can tell 
it's a triple tap

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:09 AM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
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> 
> I wish to know as to what all can we do using voice control function
> of our Iphone?  Can I operate apps?  Can I try booking an Uber ride?
> The work with Siri is not upto the mark.  I will appreciate some help.
> 
> With best wishes,
> 
> Ketan
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Iphone and voice control

2020-12-18 Thread Ketan Kothari
Hi friends,

I wish to know as to what all can we do using voice control function
of our Iphone?  Can I operate apps?  Can I try booking an Uber ride?
The work with Siri is not upto the mark.  I will appreciate some help.

With best wishes,

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RE: Voice control

2020-12-03 Thread Richard Turner
Yes.
Keep in mind it is designed for people who are unable to do the standard 
gestures.
I would recommend reading about the commands and especially how to enable and 
disable Voice Control with Siri, which is as simple as Turn on Voice Control, 
and Turn Off Voice control after you enable it in settings and download a small 
bit of data.
I recommend only using it with headphones along with VoiceOver as it may 
mistake your VoiceOver talking for commands.

It does use more battery, so be aware of that if you decide to try it.
I personally do not use it but experimented for a while when I was teaching the 
iPhone and had some clients who could not do the gestures.  But, there are a 
ton of commands to learn if one was going to use it full time.


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Has anyone tried the voice control yet? If so what are your thoughts? 

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Voice control

2020-12-03 Thread 'Louana Sterling' via VIPhone
Has anyone tried the voice control yet? If so what are your thoughts? 

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Voice Control, Dictation and Voiceover

2020-03-12 Thread 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone
Hi again

I emailed Apple Accessibility about this issue and they confirm that the only 
way to use VC and VO together is to used wired headphones.

I asked if they could address the issue of VC listening to VO and they have 
passed it to the appropriate people.

Best

Adrienne

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Voice Control, Dictation and Voiceover

2020-03-11 Thread 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone
Thanks for the feedback.

Two observations. 

First, it seems that editing text as demonstrated in the Apple Support videos 
is not going to be possible unless and until Voice Control can be persuaded to 
ignore Voiceover. 

Second, I may be imagining it, but I get the impression that dictation is more 
accurate using Voice Control than the normal dictate button on the keyboard. I 
haven’t tried to use the dictate button when off-line, but I assume you can’t 
use it then, unlike Voice Control dictation.

Cheers

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Re: Voice Control, Dictation and Voiceover

2020-03-10 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
If you say “command mode”, you can go to the text edit field and, when the 
keyboard comes up, you can say either “2 finger double tap” or “tap dictate”. 
You then hear the sound to indicate that the microphone is listening - but, as 
you dictate, VoiceOver does not read out what is being dictated. When you are 
finished, say “tap done” and then the keyboard disappears and VoiceOver reads 
out what you have just dictated. Because you are in command mode, there is no 
infinite feedback loop!
Harry

> On 10 Mar 2020, at 10:17, Richard Turner  wrote:
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>  because Voice Control is always listening, you have to use earphones if you 
> are using VoiceOver.
> Unlike Hey Siri, Voice Control does not know whose talking.
> So, you are not doing anything wrong, and there is no other way than those 
> you have discovered; turn off speech, or use an earphone.
> HTH,
> 
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>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:56 AM, 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I’ve been trying to use Voice Control on my iPhone, iPad Mini and MBP. I am 
>> getting the hang of Voice Control for general commands and have adjusted 
>> various settings, such as feedback and hints, to assist with this.
>> 
>> However, I am having terrible trouble when it comes to dictation, including 
>> editing text, within Voice Control. The only way I can seem to manage 
>> without it endlessly dictating to itself is either to switch off Voiceover, 
>> or to use an ancient old earphone in the 3.5mm jack on my MBP. BT headphones 
>> don’t seem to be much use for various reasons, including lag.
>> 
>> I can’t seem to find any articles, blogs or podcasts about using dictation 
>> within Voice Control and Voiceover. Any suggestions? Have any of you had any 
>> success with dictation and editing?
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Adrienne 
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Re: Voice Control, Dictation and Voiceover

2020-03-10 Thread Richard Turner
because Voice Control is always listening, you have to use earphones if you are 
using VoiceOver.
Unlike Hey Siri, Voice Control does not know whose talking.
So, you are not doing anything wrong, and there is no other way than those you 
have discovered; turn off speech, or use an earphone.
HTH,



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Hi all

I’ve been trying to use Voice Control on my iPhone, iPad Mini and MBP. I am 
getting the hang of Voice Control for general commands and have adjusted 
various settings, such as feedback and hints, to assist with this.

However, I am having terrible trouble when it comes to dictation, including 
editing text, within Voice Control. The only way I can seem to manage without 
it endlessly dictating to itself is either to switch off Voiceover, or to use 
an ancient old earphone in the 3.5mm jack on my MBP. BT headphones don’t seem 
to be much use for various reasons, including lag.

I can’t seem to find any articles, blogs or podcasts about using dictation 
within Voice Control and Voiceover. Any suggestions? Have any of you had any 
success with dictation and editing?

Best

Adrienne

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Re: Voice Control, Dictation and Voiceover

2020-03-10 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
When using voice control to write text, either use headphones as you describe 
or say “Command mode” and then, when you are in a text edit field and the 
keyboard has appeared, say “Tap dictate” and say what you want to dictate: in 
my experience, VoiceOver does not read out the text, so there is no feedback 
Loop. Someone else suggested that we introduce what you want to dictate with 
the command “Type...”. But this does not work reliably for me. 
Harry

> On 10 Mar 2020, at 09:56, 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I’ve been trying to use Voice Control on my iPhone, iPad Mini and MBP. I am 
> getting the hang of Voice Control for general commands and have adjusted 
> various settings, such as feedback and hints, to assist with this.
> 
> However, I am having terrible trouble when it comes to dictation, including 
> editing text, within Voice Control. The only way I can seem to manage without 
> it endlessly dictating to itself is either to switch off Voiceover, or to use 
> an ancient old earphone in the 3.5mm jack on my MBP. BT headphones don’t seem 
> to be much use for various reasons, including lag.
> 
> I can’t seem to find any articles, blogs or podcasts about using dictation 
> within Voice Control and Voiceover. Any suggestions? Have any of you had any 
> success with dictation and editing?
> 
> Best
> 
> Adrienne 
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Voice Control, Dictation and Voiceover

2020-03-10 Thread 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone
Hi all

I’ve been trying to use Voice Control on my iPhone, iPad Mini and MBP. I am 
getting the hang of Voice Control for general commands and have adjusted 
various settings, such as feedback and hints, to assist with this.

However, I am having terrible trouble when it comes to dictation, including 
editing text, within Voice Control. The only way I can seem to manage without 
it endlessly dictating to itself is either to switch off Voiceover, or to use 
an ancient old earphone in the 3.5mm jack on my MBP. BT headphones don’t seem 
to be much use for various reasons, including lag.

I can’t seem to find any articles, blogs or podcasts about using dictation 
within Voice Control and Voiceover. Any suggestions? Have any of you had any 
success with dictation and editing?

Best

Adrienne 

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Re: Voice control on the 6S

2020-02-09 Thread Aedan Something
A lot of voice control’s problems can be solved by saying "command mode" when 
you don’t want to dictate normally. You can still say "type " to 
dictate what you say before you pause when Voiceover is focussed on a text 
field. I can’t find a setting in voice control settings to turn command mode on 
by default.
Aedan

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Great!
> The other option is to use headphones when using Voice Control so it doesn't 
> hear VoiceOver talking.
> I forgot I had Voice Control on and went into the living room while the TV 
> was on and started to write an Email.  Well, if you ever want to get  quotes 
> from the TV, it does an OK job; just not helpful when trying to write an 
> email, grin.
> 
> Richard
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda 
> Ingraham
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi Richard, 
> 
> I spoke with Apple Accessibility last night. Both reps were extremely 
> helpful. 
> 
> Based on my conversation with the reps and my experience, vo and voice 
> command are tripping over each other. It appears if you have voice command 
> turned on, your phone is in a listening mode.As we use vo, voice command is 
> hearing vo and responding to the vo voice. I had my phone sitting next to my 
> computer yesterday. My phone kept trying to respond to JAWS. 
> 
> The one rep suggestedif I want to use voice command to turn vo off. I didn't 
> try it. I was so glad to have my phone up and running that I decided I will 
> wait for a few more updates before trying voice command again. BTW, both reps 
> were able to replicate the problems I described. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Lynda 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Voice control is not Siri.
> It is completely independent of Siri.
> If Voice Control is on, without pressing any buttons or saying Hey Siri, if 
> you say "Reboot Device" it should bring up an option asking if you are sure 
> you want to restart.  If VoiceOver is silent, the restart button is in the 
> center of the screen, maybe an inch in from the side on my SE.
> The cancel button is to the left in the middle.
> 
> It works flawlessly for me.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi Anna,
> Given the issues that some people are having with voiceover cutting out and 
> not being able to be brought back, I thought your idea about rebooting using 
> voice control was a good one. So I turned voice control on on my 7+, but when 
> I tell Siri to reboot the device it says it can’t. So I can’t tell it to 
> restart by double tapping restart. All it does is tell me that I can restart 
> my phone myself by pressing the side button at Cetera. But if I didn’t have 
> voiceover on,  Siri wouldn’t speak to me. And the whole problem of rebooting 
> with no active voiceover is thus not solved. What am I missing? This 
> voiceover cutting off bug is what is keeping me from updating my main phone. 
> And I thought you had a really elegant solution.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
>> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
>> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on
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Re: A question about voice control

2019-11-20 Thread Richard Turner
I only get that if an app that requires the microphone is open.
If VoiceOver is on, I recommend using earphones.




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On Nov 20, 2019, at 7:29 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
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When using voice control, does anyone else have the problem of constantly 
saying,"Voice control is not active quote? It does this constantly, and I don't 
know how to stop it. Is the only answer to turn off voiceover

Kristeen Hughes

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A question about voice control

2019-11-20 Thread 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone
When using voice control, does anyone else have the problem of constantly 
saying,"Voice control is not active quote? It does this constantly, and I don't 
know how to stop it. Is the only answer to turn off voiceover

Kristeen Hughes

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RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Great!
The other option is to use headphones when using Voice Control so it doesn't 
hear VoiceOver talking.
I forgot I had Voice Control on and went into the living room while the TV was 
on and started to write an Email.  Well, if you ever want to get  quotes from 
the TV, it does an OK job; just not helpful when trying to write an email, grin.

Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda 
Ingraham
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Hi Richard, 

I spoke with Apple Accessibility last night. Both reps were extremely helpful. 

Based on my conversation with the reps and my experience, vo and voice command 
are tripping over each other. It appears if you have voice command turned on, 
your phone is in a listening mode.As we use vo, voice command is hearing vo and 
responding to the vo voice. I had my phone sitting next to my computer 
yesterday. My phone kept trying to respond to JAWS. 

The one rep suggestedif I want to use voice command to turn vo off. I didn't 
try it. I was so glad to have my phone up and running that I decided I will 
wait for a few more updates before trying voice command again. BTW, both reps 
were able to replicate the problems I described. 

Best, 

Lynda 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Voice control is not Siri.
It is completely independent of Siri.
If Voice Control is on, without pressing any buttons or saying Hey Siri, if you 
say "Reboot Device" it should bring up an option asking if you are sure you 
want to restart.  If VoiceOver is silent, the restart button is in the center 
of the screen, maybe an inch in from the side on my SE.
The cancel button is to the left in the middle.
 
It works flawlessly for me.


Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi Anna,
Given the issues that some people are having with voiceover cutting out and not 
being able to be brought back, I thought your idea about rebooting using voice 
control was a good one. So I turned voice control on on my 7+, but when I tell 
Siri to reboot the device it says it can’t. So I can’t tell it to restart by 
double tapping restart. All it does is tell me that I can restart my phone 
myself by pressing the side button at Cetera. But if I didn’t have voiceover 
on,  Siri wouldn’t speak to me. And the whole problem of rebooting with no 
active voiceover is thus not solved. What am I missing? This voiceover cutting 
off bug is what is keeping me from updating my main phone. And I thought you 
had a really elegant solution.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on

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RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-28 Thread Lynda Ingraham
Hi Richard, 

I spoke with Apple Accessibility last night. Both reps were extremely helpful. 

Based on my conversation with the reps and my experience, vo and voice command 
are tripping over each other. It appears if you have voice command turned on, 
your phone is in a listening mode.As we use vo, voice command is hearing vo and 
responding to the vo voice. I had my phone sitting next to my computer 
yesterday. My phone kept trying to respond to JAWS. 

The one rep suggestedif I want to use voice command to turn vo off. I didn't 
try it. I was so glad to have my phone up and running that I decided I will 
wait for a few more updates before trying voice command again. BTW, both reps 
were able to replicate the problems I described. 

Best, 

Lynda 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Voice control is not Siri.
It is completely independent of Siri.
If Voice Control is on, without pressing any buttons or saying Hey Siri, if you 
say "Reboot Device" it should bring up an option asking if you are sure you 
want to restart.  If VoiceOver is silent, the restart button is in the center 
of the screen, maybe an inch in from the side on my SE.
The cancel button is to the left in the middle.
 
It works flawlessly for me.


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi Anna,
Given the issues that some people are having with voiceover cutting out and not 
being able to be brought back, I thought your idea about rebooting using voice 
control was a good one. So I turned voice control on on my 7+, but when I tell 
Siri to reboot the device it says it can’t. So I can’t tell it to restart by 
double tapping restart. All it does is tell me that I can restart my phone 
myself by pressing the side button at Cetera. But if I didn’t have voiceover 
on,  Siri wouldn’t speak to me. And the whole problem of rebooting with no 
active voiceover is thus not solved. What am I missing? This voiceover cutting 
off bug is what is keeping me from updating my main phone. And I thought you 
had a really elegant solution.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on

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RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Good catch, I need to spend more time with Voice control as I know some of my 
clients will be wanting to learn all of this.
I forgot about saying tap whatever you want tapped.

Teaching an old dog very new tricks ain't easy.

Especially learning them in enough detail to teach.  Good thing retirement is 
only about a year away.


Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi richard,
I figured that out about Siri. Stupid me. You don’t even have to search for the 
restart button or any of that. Even with voiceover on, when it says are you 
sure you want to restart, if you just say tap restart, it does. That is good, 
because if voiceover we’re off, you wouldn’t be getting any feedback.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 10:04 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Voice control is not Siri.
> It is completely independent of Siri.
> If Voice Control is on, without pressing any buttons or saying Hey Siri, if 
> you say "Reboot Device" it should bring up an option asking if you are sure 
> you want to restart.  If VoiceOver is silent, the restart button is in the 
> center of the screen, maybe an inch in from the side on my SE.
> The cancel button is to the left in the middle.
> 
> It works flawlessly for me.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi Anna,
> Given the issues that some people are having with voiceover cutting out and 
> not being able to be brought back, I thought your idea about rebooting using 
> voice control was a good one. So I turned voice control on on my 7+, but when 
> I tell Siri to reboot the device it says it can’t. So I can’t tell it to 
> restart by double tapping restart. All it does is tell me that I can restart 
> my phone myself by pressing the side button at Cetera. But if I didn’t have 
> voiceover on,  Siri wouldn’t speak to me. And the whole problem of rebooting 
> with no active voiceover is thus not solved. What am I missing? This 
> voiceover cutting off bug is what is keeping me from updating my main phone. 
> And I thought you had a really elegant solution.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
>> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
>> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on
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Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-28 Thread Mary Otten
Hi richard,
I figured that out about Siri. Stupid me. You don’t even have to search for the 
restart button or any of that. Even with voiceover on, when it says are you 
sure you want to restart, if you just say tap restart, it does. That is good, 
because if voiceover we’re off, you wouldn’t be getting any feedback.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 10:04 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Voice control is not Siri.
> It is completely independent of Siri.
> If Voice Control is on, without pressing any buttons or saying Hey Siri, if 
> you say "Reboot Device" it should bring up an option asking if you are sure 
> you want to restart.  If VoiceOver is silent, the restart button is in the 
> center of the screen, maybe an inch in from the side on my SE.
> The cancel button is to the left in the middle.
> 
> It works flawlessly for me.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi Anna,
> Given the issues that some people are having with voiceover cutting out and 
> not being able to be brought back, I thought your idea about rebooting using 
> voice control was a good one. So I turned voice control on on my 7+, but when 
> I tell Siri to reboot the device it says it can’t. So I can’t tell it to 
> restart by double tapping restart. All it does is tell me that I can restart 
> my phone myself by pressing the side button at Cetera. But if I didn’t have 
> voiceover on,  Siri wouldn’t speak to me. And the whole problem of rebooting 
> with no active voiceover is thus not solved. What am I missing? This 
> voiceover cutting off bug is what is keeping me from updating my main phone. 
> And I thought you had a really elegant solution.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
>> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
>> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on
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RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
Voice control is not Siri.
It is completely independent of Siri.
If Voice Control is on, without pressing any buttons or saying Hey Siri, if you 
say "Reboot Device" it should bring up an option asking if you are sure you 
want to restart.  If VoiceOver is silent, the restart button is in the center 
of the screen, maybe an inch in from the side on my SE.
The cancel button is to the left in the middle.
 
It works flawlessly for me.


Richard

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Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi Anna,
Given the issues that some people are having with voiceover cutting out and not 
being able to be brought back, I thought your idea about rebooting using voice 
control was a good one. So I turned voice control on on my 7+, but when I tell 
Siri to reboot the device it says it can’t. So I can’t tell it to restart by 
double tapping restart. All it does is tell me that I can restart my phone 
myself by pressing the side button at Cetera. But if I didn’t have voiceover 
on,  Siri wouldn’t speak to me. And the whole problem of rebooting with no 
active voiceover is thus not solved. What am I missing? This voiceover cutting 
off bug is what is keeping me from updating my main phone. And I thought you 
had a really elegant solution.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on

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Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-28 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Anna,
Given the issues that some people are having with voiceover cutting out and not 
being able to be brought back, I thought your idea about rebooting using voice 
control was a good one. So I turned voice control on on my 7+, but when I tell 
Siri to reboot the device it says it can’t. So I can’t tell it to restart by 
double tapping restart. All it does is tell me that I can restart my phone 
myself by pressing the side button at Cetera. But if I didn’t have voiceover 
on,  Siri wouldn’t speak to me. And the whole problem of rebooting with no 
active voiceover is thus not solved. What am I missing? This voiceover cutting 
off bug is what is keeping me from updating my main phone. And I thought you 
had a really elegant solution.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on

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RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-27 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I really need talk from my phone way more than I need to be able to talk to it, 
but yes, it is great that the feature is available to accommodate the needs of 
those who can make good use of it. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

> Yes, this is also still just a start and it will be improved as we give 
> feedback!
> ,
> 
> On 27 Sep 2019, at 15:53, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I totally agree that this voice control feature is a total game changer for 
> people who have extremely limited use of their hands or possibly no use as in 
> somebody who is an amputee, Quadriplegic etc. Of course it is much easier for 
> a sighted person to get full use out of this, but it is good to see that 
> Apple is trying to also make this available to somebody who can't see and 
> hence would be dealing with multiple disabilities.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:59 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi,
> 
> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on a regular basis at this point 
> either. It's really exciting for people who have limited use of their hands, 
> though.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Sieghard.
> I've stated several times, it is focused at people who cannot manage the 
> touch gestures.
> It includes blind people who cannot do the touch gestures.
> Where I work, we have several clients who, for a wide variety of reasons, 
> cannot do the touch gestures and so have been limited to either a push button 
> phone, or using Siri or OK Google on Android.
> 
> This will be a great thing for them.
> 
> But, if you can do the touch gestures, don't bother with Voice Control.
> Or, set it so you can turn it on or off with the triple tap of the home 
> button for specific uses.
> 
> The one place I can see using it over Siri, is with dictation.  Since voice 
> control keeps everything on the device and you do not need internet 
> connectivity, it would be a better way to dictate text.
> 
> Otherwise, it is an interesting thing to play with, but unless you have a 10 
> or 11, and somewhat true with the 8's, it is rather slow to respond.
> 
> I only have gotten into it myself because of my job.
> 
> I would not use it for anything but dictation on my SE.  It just isn't 
> responsive enough.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-
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> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
> Control.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
> wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap 
> whatever I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone 
> know when I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but 
> just start talking? 
> 
> Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
> my Voice Mail. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
> definitely work on a 6s.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
> 
>You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of the 
> home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disablin

Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-27 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
> Yes, this is also still just a start and it will be improved as we give 
> feedback!
> ,
> 
> On 27 Sep 2019, at 15:53, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I totally agree that this voice control feature is a total game changer for 
> people who have extremely limited use of their hands or possibly no use as in 
> somebody who is an amputee, Quadriplegic etc. Of course it is much easier for 
> a sighted person to get full use out of this, but it is good to see that 
> Apple is trying to also make this available to somebody who can't see and 
> hence would be dealing with multiple disabilities.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:59 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi,
> 
> One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can 
> use Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap 
> restart," and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on a regular basis at this point 
> either. It's really exciting for people who have limited use of their hands, 
> though.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Sieghard.
> I've stated several times, it is focused at people who cannot manage the 
> touch gestures.
> It includes blind people who cannot do the touch gestures.
> Where I work, we have several clients who, for a wide variety of reasons, 
> cannot do the touch gestures and so have been limited to either a push button 
> phone, or using Siri or OK Google on Android.
> 
> This will be a great thing for them.
> 
> But, if you can do the touch gestures, don't bother with Voice Control.
> Or, set it so you can turn it on or off with the triple tap of the home 
> button for specific uses.
> 
> The one place I can see using it over Siri, is with dictation.  Since voice 
> control keeps everything on the device and you do not need internet 
> connectivity, it would be a better way to dictate text.
> 
> Otherwise, it is an interesting thing to play with, but unless you have a 10 
> or 11, and somewhat true with the 8's, it is rather slow to respond.
> 
> I only have gotten into it myself because of my job.
> 
> I would not use it for anything but dictation on my SE.  It just isn't 
> responsive enough.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
> Control.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
> wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap 
> whatever I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone 
> know when I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but 
> just start talking? 
> 
> Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
> my Voice Mail. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
> definitely work on a 6s.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
> 
>You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of the 
> home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.
> 
> 
>Richard
> 
>🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
>Check out my web site at: 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce9ed4b3fa654443cdf4908d74297a34a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637051091352613304&sdata=644%2FdLbI5TTSG7YZ35SWGOQ4ixBL0uSNtf9YE57LSZo%3D&reserved=0
>  
> <https:

RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I totally agree that this voice control feature is a total game changer for 
people who have extremely limited use of their hands or possibly no use as in 
somebody who is an amputee, Quadriplegic etc. Of course it is much easier for a 
sighted person to get full use out of this, but it is good to see that Apple is 
trying to also make this available to somebody who can't see and hence would be 
dealing with multiple disabilities.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 10:59 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi,

One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can use 
Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap restart," 
and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on a regular basis at this point either. It's 
really exciting for people who have limited use of their hands, though.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Sieghard.
> I've stated several times, it is focused at people who cannot manage the 
> touch gestures.
> It includes blind people who cannot do the touch gestures.
> Where I work, we have several clients who, for a wide variety of reasons, 
> cannot do the touch gestures and so have been limited to either a push button 
> phone, or using Siri or OK Google on Android.
> 
> This will be a great thing for them.
> 
> But, if you can do the touch gestures, don't bother with Voice Control.
> Or, set it so you can turn it on or off with the triple tap of the home 
> button for specific uses.
> 
> The one place I can see using it over Siri, is with dictation.  Since voice 
> control keeps everything on the device and you do not need internet 
> connectivity, it would be a better way to dictate text.
> 
> Otherwise, it is an interesting thing to play with, but unless you have a 10 
> or 11, and somewhat true with the 8's, it is rather slow to respond.
> 
> I only have gotten into it myself because of my job.
> 
> I would not use it for anything but dictation on my SE.  It just isn't 
> responsive enough.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
> Control.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
> wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap 
> whatever I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone 
> know when I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but 
> just start talking? 
> 
> Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
> my Voice Mail. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
> definitely work on a 6s.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>   On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
> 
>   You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
> the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling 
> it.
>
>
>   Richard
>
>   🖖 Live long and prosper
>
>
>   Check out my web site at: 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce9ed4b3fa654443cdf4908d74297a34a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637051091352613304&sdata=644%2FdLbI5TTSG7YZ35SWGOQ4ixBL0uSNtf9YE57LSZo%3D&reserved=0
>  
> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce9ed4b3fa654443cdf4908d74297a34a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637051091352613304&sdata=brNUkztvE026tC5CW%2FF3COJFqazmalnwBGvPm2OlCeg%3D&reserved=0>
>  
> 

RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I decided that too and turned the thing off. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
Control.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap whatever 
I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone know when 
I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but just start 
talking? 

Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
my Voice Mail. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi,

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.
 
 
Richard
 
🖖 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/> 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
 
After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle 
switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

 

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith mailto:k...@axistech.net> > wrote:


    I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control 
and go through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in 
the accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
supported on the 6S?
 
Karl
 
 
 
__
 
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Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129
 
Phone: 866-824-7885
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Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-26 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi,

One cool thing you can do with Voice Control is reboot your device. You can use 
Siri to turn on Voice control, then say, "Reboot device," say "Tap restart," 
and it reboots. I wouldn't use it on a regular basis at this point either. It's 
really exciting for people who have limited use of their hands, though.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 26, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Sieghard.
> I've stated several times, it is focused at people who cannot manage the 
> touch gestures.
> It includes blind people who cannot do the touch gestures.
> Where I work, we have several clients who, for a wide variety of reasons, 
> cannot do the touch gestures and so have been limited to either a push button 
> phone, or using Siri or OK Google on Android.
> 
> This will be a great thing for them.
> 
> But, if you can do the touch gestures, don't bother with Voice Control.
> Or, set it so you can turn it on or off with the triple tap of the home 
> button for specific uses.
> 
> The one place I can see using it over Siri, is with dictation.  Since voice 
> control keeps everything on the device and you do not need internet 
> connectivity, it would be a better way to dictate text.
> 
> Otherwise, it is an interesting thing to play with, but unless you have a 10 
> or 11, and somewhat true with the 8's, it is rather slow to respond.
> 
> I only have gotten into it myself because of my job.
> 
> I would not use it for anything but dictation on my SE.  It just isn't 
> responsive enough.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
> Control.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
> wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap 
> whatever I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone 
> know when I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but 
> just start talking? 
> 
> Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
> my Voice Mail. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
> definitely work on a 6s.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>   On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
> 
>   You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
> the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling 
> it.
>
>
>   Richard
>
>   🖖 Live long and prosper
>
>
>   Check out my web site at: 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce9ed4b3fa654443cdf4908d74297a34a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637051091352613304&sdata=644%2FdLbI5TTSG7YZ35SWGOQ4ixBL0uSNtf9YE57LSZo%3D&reserved=0
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>  
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>   Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
>
>   After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
> VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a 
> toggle switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or 
> o

RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-26 Thread Richard Turner
I agree with Sieghard.
I've stated several times, it is focused at people who cannot manage the touch 
gestures.
It includes blind people who cannot do the touch gestures.
Where I work, we have several clients who, for a wide variety of reasons, 
cannot do the touch gestures and so have been limited to either a push button 
phone, or using Siri or OK Google on Android.

This will be a great thing for them.

But, if you can do the touch gestures, don't bother with Voice Control.
Or, set it so you can turn it on or off with the triple tap of the home button 
for specific uses.

The one place I can see using it over Siri, is with dictation.  Since voice 
control keeps everything on the device and you do not need internet 
connectivity, it would be a better way to dictate text.

Otherwise, it is an interesting thing to play with, but unless you have a 10 or 
11, and somewhat true with the 8's, it is rather slow to respond.

I only have gotten into it myself because of my job.

I would not use it for anything but dictation on my SE.  It just isn't 
responsive enough.




Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
Control.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap whatever 
I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone know when 
I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but just start 
talking? 

Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
my Voice Mail. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi,

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.
 
 
Richard
 
🖖 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: 
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce9ed4b3fa654443cdf4908d74297a34a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637051091352613304&sdata=644%2FdLbI5TTSG7YZ35SWGOQ4ixBL0uSNtf9YE57LSZo%3D&reserved=0
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
 
After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle 
switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

 

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith mailto:k...@axistech.net> > wrote:

    
I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control 
and go through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in 
the accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
supported on the 6S?
 
Karl
 
 
 
__
 
Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129
 
Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax: 866-824-7885
E-mail: k...@axistech.net <mailto:k...@axistech.net> 
Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com 
<mailto:karl.axist...@gmail.com>

RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Personally I find it more trouble than it's worth at this point to use Voice 
Control.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice control on the 6S

Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap whatever 
I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone know when 
I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but just start 
talking? 

Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
my Voice Mail. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:57 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi,

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.
 
 
Richard
 
🖖 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/> 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
 
After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle 
switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

 

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith mailto:k...@axistech.net> > wrote:


    I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control 
and go through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in 
the accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
supported on the 6S?
 
Karl
 
 
 
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Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129
 
Phone: 866-824-7885
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RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-26 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Maybe I'd be better off to just turn it off? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Once it is on; it is on until you turn it off. 
The main point of Voice Control is for people who cannot use the touch screen. 
Those who are paralyzed, maybe has Parkinson's or another condition that causes 
tremors, etc.
Anyone with poor finger dexterity. 
They have built in some specific VoiceOver commands though.
Say you have Voice Control on.
You are in Safari on a web page, and you want to go to the home screen, but 
don't want to reach over and tap the home button.
Just say "go home." 
You'll be at the home screen.
HTH,


Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



On Sep 25, 2019, at 5:14 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:
    
    

    So, going into Voice Control, you turn on what you want, but how do 
you call up Voice Control? Is it on all the time? Do you just give whatever is 
an appropriate command? 

I hopw time will permit me to check your information tomorrow. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Once Voice Control is turned on under Voice Control settings, you just 
talk. 
Be aware that it is constantly listening; so if you are in an edit box, 
anything it hears will be dictated.
Yes, it is a battery hog since, again, it is always monitoring the 
microphone.
    I have set my phone up with Voice Control in the accessibility shortcut 
so I can triple tap home to turn it on.
I use Siri to turn on VoiceOver.
Again, if Voice Control is on, you do not have to touch the phone, just 
issue your command.
Given that the commands are 9 pages long in a word document, er is a 
bit of a learning curve.
If you want the word document, it is on my web page: 
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0b8cc28faaa441cc4b1b08d742167a7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637050536615678325&sdata=gnj9pt4Ry%2BKew4%2FztYGtr%2B3KuXgNDGgupwNm4oUBubk%3D&reserved=0


Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



   On Sep 25, 2019, at 1:44 PM, karl Smith  wrote:
   
   

    

   I did get it to work finally but afterwards my battery went down the 
toilet. I started at 100% at about 10:30 am and my phone died because of a low 
battery by about 12:30 during which time I didn’t make or receive a call or 
send or receive any text messages. The phone got quite warm as well. I’ll turn 
it off for a while and see if that helps or if this is a symptom of 13.1.



   Karl







   __



   Karl Smith
   Access Technology Consultant

   Axis

   4304 South El Camino St.

   Taylorsville, Utah 84129



   Phone: 866-824-7885

   Fax: 866-824-7885

   E-mail: k...@axistech.net

   Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com



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   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Anna Dresner
   Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:57 AM
   To: VIPhone Mailing List 
   Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S


    
       Hi,



   Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it 
should definitely work on a 6s.



   Best,

   Anna



   
   
   

   On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:



   You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a tr

Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
Once it is on; it is on until you turn it off.
The main point of Voice Control is for people who cannot use the touch screen. 
Those who are paralyzed, maybe has Parkinson's or another condition that causes 
tremors, etc.
Anyone with poor finger dexterity.
They have built in some specific VoiceOver commands though.
Say you have Voice Control on.
You are in Safari on a web page, and you want to go to the home screen, but 
don't want to reach over and tap the home button.
Just say "go home."
You'll be at the home screen.
HTH,


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 25, 2019, at 5:14 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

So, going into Voice Control, you turn on what you want, but how do you call 
up Voice Control? Is it on all the time? Do you just give whatever is an 
appropriate command?

I hopw time will permit me to check your information tomorrow.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Once Voice Control is turned on under Voice Control settings, you just talk.
Be aware that it is constantly listening; so if you are in an edit box, 
anything it hears will be dictated.
Yes, it is a battery hog since, again, it is always monitoring the microphone.
I have set my phone up with Voice Control in the accessibility shortcut so I 
can triple tap home to turn it on.
I use Siri to turn on VoiceOver.
Again, if Voice Control is on, you do not have to touch the phone, just issue 
your command.
Given that the commands are 9 pages long in a word document, er is a bit of a 
learning curve.
If you want the word document, it is on my web page: 
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0b8cc28faaa441cc4b1b08d742167a7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637050536615678325&sdata=gnj9pt4Ry%2BKew4%2FztYGtr%2B3KuXgNDGgupwNm4oUBubk%3D&reserved=0


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



   On Sep 25, 2019, at 1:44 PM, karl Smith  wrote:



   

   I did get it to work finally but afterwards my battery went down the toilet. 
I started at 100% at about 10:30 am and my phone died because of a low battery 
by about 12:30 during which time I didn’t make or receive a call or send or 
receive any text messages. The phone got quite warm as well. I’ll turn it off 
for a while and see if that helps or if this is a symptom of 13.1.



   Karl







   __



   Karl Smith
   Access Technology Consultant

   Axis

   4304 South El Camino St.

   Taylorsville, Utah 84129



   Phone: 866-824-7885

   Fax: 866-824-7885

   E-mail: k...@axistech.net

   Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com



   Twitter 
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   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
   Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:57 AM
   To: VIPhone Mailing List 
   Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S



   Hi,



   Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.



   Best,

   Anna







   On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:



   You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of the 
home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.





   Richard



   🖖 Live long and prosper





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   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan 
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   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S



   After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear VoiceOver 
say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle switch to 
turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.




RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold
So, going into Voice Control, you turn on what you want, but how do you call up 
Voice Control? Is it on all the time? Do you just give whatever is an 
appropriate command? 

I hopw time will permit me to check your information tomorrow. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Once Voice Control is turned on under Voice Control settings, you just talk. 
Be aware that it is constantly listening; so if you are in an edit box, 
anything it hears will be dictated.
Yes, it is a battery hog since, again, it is always monitoring the microphone.
I have set my phone up with Voice Control in the accessibility shortcut so I 
can triple tap home to turn it on.
I use Siri to turn on VoiceOver.
Again, if Voice Control is on, you do not have to touch the phone, just issue 
your command.
Given that the commands are 9 pages long in a word document, er is a bit of a 
learning curve.
If you want the word document, it is on my web page: www.turner42.com


Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



On Sep 25, 2019, at 1:44 PM, karl Smith  wrote:



 

I did get it to work finally but afterwards my battery went down the 
toilet. I started at 100% at about 10:30 am and my phone died because of a low 
battery by about 12:30 during which time I didn’t make or receive a call or 
send or receive any text messages. The phone got quite warm as well. I’ll turn 
it off for a while and see if that helps or if this is a symptom of 13.1.

 

Karl

 

 

 

__

 

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

 

Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

 

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:57 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

 

Hi,

 

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple 
tap of the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or 
disabling it.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

 

After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle 
switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith 
mailto:k...@axistech.net> > wrote:



I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice 
control and go through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and 
back in the accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature 
not supported on the 6S?

 

Karl

 

 

 

__

 

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

  

Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
Once Voice Control is turned on under Voice Control settings, you just talk.
Be aware that it is constantly listening; so if you are in an edit box, 
anything it hears will be dictated.
Yes, it is a battery hog since, again, it is always monitoring the microphone.
I have set my phone up with Voice Control in the accessibility shortcut so I 
can triple tap home to turn it on.
I use Siri to turn on VoiceOver.
Again, if Voice Control is on, you do not have to touch the phone, just issue 
your command.
Given that the commands are 9 pages long in a word document, er is a bit of a 
learning curve.
If you want the word document, it is on my web page: www.turner42.com


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 25, 2019, at 1:44 PM, karl Smith  wrote:


I did get it to work finally but afterwards my battery went down the toilet. I 
started at 100% at about 10:30 am and my phone died because of a low battery by 
about 12:30 during which time I didn’t make or receive a call or send or 
receive any text messages. The phone got quite warm as well. I’ll turn it off 
for a while and see if that helps or if this is a symptom of 13.1.

Karl



__

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax: 866-824-7885
E-mail: k...@axistech.net
Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:57 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

Hi,

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of the home 
button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.


Richard

🖖 Live long and prosper


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear VoiceOver say 
that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle switch to turn 
it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith 
mailto:k...@axistech.net>> wrote:

I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control and go through 
all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in the 
accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not supported 
on the 6S?

Karl



__

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax: 866-824-7885
E-mail: k...@axistech.net<mailto:k...@axistech.net>
Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com<mailto:karl.axist...@gmail.com>

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RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-25 Thread karl Smith
I did get it to work finally but afterwards my battery went down the toilet. I 
started at 100% at about 10:30 am and my phone died because of a low battery by 
about 12:30 during which time I didn’t make or receive a call or send or 
receive any text messages. The phone got quite warm as well. I’ll turn it off 
for a while and see if that helps or if this is a symptom of 13.1.

 

Karl

 

 

 

__

 

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

Axis

4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

 

Phone: 866-824-7885

Fax: 866-824-7885

E-mail: k...@axistech.net

Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com

 

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:57 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

 

Hi,

 

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of the home 
button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:  <http://www.turner42.com/> www.turner42.com

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com < 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

 

After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear VoiceOver say 
that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle switch to turn 
it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith < <mailto:k...@axistech.net> 
k...@axistech.net> wrote:



I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control and go through 
all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in the 
accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not supported 
on the 6S?

 

Karl

 

 

 

__

 

Karl Smith
Access Technology Consultant

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RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-25 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Now, what is it that I do to get Voice Control to work? I did look at it, 
wasn't sure what to double tap, since I thought I'd need to double tap whatever 
I wanted from Voice Control. Once I get it going, how does the phone know when 
I want to use it? Do I use the Home Button like calling Siri, but just start 
talking? 

Off the subject, I am overjoyed with the option to have unknown callers go to 
my Voice Mail. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Hi,

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of 
the home button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.
 
 
Richard
 
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Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S
 
After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear 
VoiceOver say that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle 
switch to turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

 

Sent from my iPhone



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I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control 
and go through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in 
the accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
supported on the 6S?
 
Karl
 
 
 
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RE: Using voice control to enter a passcode

2019-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
This works fine.
I did Tap number, tap number, etc.
I did not try just saying tap once and then the 6 digits, though I will at some 
point.
Voice control is more responsive with the 8 plus than with my SE, and I suspect 
will be even more so with the x's and 11's.


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If you turn the Raise to Wake feature on, then you can have Voice control swipe 
right until you get to the Press Home to unlock. Then have it double tap, then 
say tap number, tap number, tap number. I did get it a few times to enter the 
whole code by saying tap number number number. In this way, you are able to 
unlock the iPhone.
Matthew

On 9/24/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I understand that voice control does not have the blind and visually 
> impaired as its primary audience. However, a friend of mine has 
> upgraded his phone and was playing around with voice control and 
> rather likes it. This raised the question of whether it is possible to 
> enter a passcode to open your phone using voice control. He was trying 
> to enter it using his finger to type the numbers, and voiceover said 
> that it was the wrong passcode. That was because other numbers then 
> when he was typing were being entered because he had voice control on. 
> He has a six digit passcode. But he was getting notices that after 
> four numbers, he had the wrong passcode entered. So, I wonder if it is 
> possible to simply dictate the passcode if you have a voice control 
> on. He did try it by simply saying his passcode numbers one after the 
> other, but that apparently didn’t do anything. So he turned voice 
> control off, and was able to enter his code. Still, if you were in the 
> right environment where you did not care if anyone overheard you, 
> saying the numbers would be cool. Plus, I would think this would be a 
> really good thing for the primary audience for whom voice control is 
> intended, that is, people who can’t really use the touchscreen well. Wouldn’t 
> you want a way to be able to enter your voice code using voice control?
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Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-25 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi,

Voice Control works fine on my 6s Plus running iOS 13.1, so it should 
definitely work on a 6s.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of the home 
> button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
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>  
>  
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> After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear VoiceOver say 
> that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle switch to 
> turn it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith  <mailto:k...@axistech.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control and go 
> through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in the 
> accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
> supported on the 6S?
>  
> Karl
>  
>  
>  
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> Karl Smith
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> Axis
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> Taylorsville, Utah 84129
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RE: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
You can also add it to the accessibility shortcut so a triple tap of the home 
button or side switch can give the option of enabling or disabling it.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice control on the 6S

After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear VoiceOver say 
that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle switch to turn 
it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith 
mailto:k...@axistech.net>> wrote:

I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control and go through 
all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in the 
accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not supported 
on the 6S?

Karl



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4304 South El Camino St.
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Voice Control Commands list

2019-09-25 Thread Richard Turner
Voice Control
The following list of commands are in the customize Commands section.
I've left each section in the order it appears on the iPhone.  Each section is 
at heading level 2.
Each item can be turned on or off.
This list was compiled by taking screen shots of each screen, recognizing the 
text with Voice Dream Scanner, exporting as PDF, opening in Word, and editing 
as needed.
This is as of iOS 13 Public Beta 5, august 11, 2019.
Let me know if you find changes in the release version.

Basic Navigation_
Show me what to say
Show commands
Show vocabulary
Search for 
Search Web for 
Go to sleep
Wake up
Repeat  times
Make this speakable
Start recording commands
Stop recording commands
Open App Switcher
Open Control Center
Open Notification Center
Open Spotlight
Open Siri
Open (application name)
Go home
Go back
Tap 

Show me what to say

Overlays
Show numbers
Show numbers continuously
Hide numbers
Show names
Show names continuously
Hide names
Show grid
Show grid with  columns
Show grid with  columns and  rows
Show grid with  rows
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Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-25 Thread Ryan Mann
After you set it up, it will still show as off.  When you hear VoiceOver say 
that it is off, double-tap to turn it on.  That is like a toggle switch to turn 
it on or off.  You can also tell SIRI to turn it on or off.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2019, at 10:26 PM, karl Smith  wrote:
> 
> 
> I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control and go 
> through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in the 
> accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
> supported on the 6S?
>  
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Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-24 Thread BHAVESH PATEL
> Hi,
> 
> yes it's supported, and i am using Voice control. though it slows down my 
> phone quite a bit.

> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S gold, using VoiceOver screen reader
> 
> On 25-Sep-2019, at 7:55 AM, karl Smith  wrote:
> 
> 
> I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control and go 
> through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in the 
> accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not 
> supported on the 6S?
>  
> Karl
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Re: Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Did you make sure you allowed it to download the necessary files?
I do not know if the 6s should support Voice Control, but it should since it 
can take 13.1.
But, to know for sure, call Apple Accessibility 877-204-3930


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 24, 2019, at 7:25 PM, karl Smith  wrote:


I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control and go through 
all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in the 
accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not supported 
on the 6S?

Karl



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Voice control on the 6S

2019-09-24 Thread karl Smith
I just upgraded my 6S to iOS 13.1. When I turn on voice control and go
through all the setup process I find that when I am finished and back in the
accessibility window voice control shows as off. Is this feature not
supported on the 6S?

 

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Re: Using voice control to enter a passcode

2019-09-24 Thread Matthew Bullis
If you turn the Raise to Wake feature on, then you can have Voice
control swipe right until you get to the Press Home to unlock. Then
have it double tap, then say tap number, tap number, tap number. I did
get it a few times to enter the whole code by saying tap number number
number. In this way, you are able to unlock the iPhone.
Matthew

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> I understand that voice control does not have the blind and visually
> impaired as its primary audience. However, a friend of mine has upgraded his
> phone and was playing around with voice control and rather likes it. This
> raised the question of whether it is possible to enter a passcode to open
> your phone using voice control. He was trying to enter it using his finger
> to type the numbers, and voiceover said that it was the wrong passcode. That
> was because other numbers then when he was typing were being entered because
> he had voice control on. He has a six digit passcode. But he was getting
> notices that after four numbers, he had the wrong passcode entered. So, I
> wonder if it is possible to simply dictate the passcode if you have a voice
> control on. He did try it by simply saying his passcode numbers one after
> the other, but that apparently didn’t do anything. So he turned voice
> control off, and was able to enter his code. Still, if you were in the right
> environment where you did not care if anyone overheard you, saying the
> numbers would be cool. Plus, I would think this would be a really good thing
> for the primary audience for whom voice control is intended, that is, people
> who can’t really use the touchscreen well. Wouldn’t you want a way to be
> able to enter your voice code using voice control?
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RE: Using voice control to enter a passcode

2019-09-24 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I find, that if I'm calling the pharmacy or doctor or somewhere, where I have 
to punch numbers, I have no problem with Bluetooth in my hearing aids, but if I 
just have the speaker on, I can't hear the numbers for the announcements 
directing me my punch options. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: Using voice control to enter a passcode

I understand that voice control does not have the blind and visually impaired 
as its primary audience. However, a friend of mine has upgraded his phone and 
was playing around with voice control and rather likes it. This raised the 
question of whether it is possible to enter a passcode to open your phone using 
voice control. He was trying to enter it using his finger to type the numbers, 
and voiceover said that it was the wrong passcode. That was because other 
numbers then when he was typing were being entered because he had voice control 
on. He has a six digit passcode. But he was getting notices that after four 
numbers, he had the wrong passcode entered. So, I wonder if it is possible to 
simply dictate the passcode if you have a voice control on. He did try it by 
simply saying his passcode numbers one after the other, but that apparently 
didn’t do anything. So he turned voice control off, and was able to enter his 
code. Still, if you were in the right environment where you did not care if 
anyone overheard you, saying the numbers would be cool. Plus, I would think 
this would be a really good thing for the primary audience for whom voice 
control is intended, that is, people who can’t really use the touchscreen well. 
Wouldn’t you want a way to be able to enter your voice code using voice control?
Mary


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Using voice control to enter a passcode

2019-09-24 Thread Mary Otten
I understand that voice control does not have the blind and visually impaired 
as its primary audience. However, a friend of mine has upgraded his phone and 
was playing around with voice control and rather likes it. This raised the 
question of whether it is possible to enter a passcode to open your phone using 
voice control. He was trying to enter it using his finger to type the numbers, 
and voiceover said that it was the wrong passcode. That was because other 
numbers then when he was typing were being entered because he had voice control 
on. He has a six digit passcode. But he was getting notices that after four 
numbers, he had the wrong passcode entered. So, I wonder if it is possible to 
simply dictate the passcode if you have a voice control on. He did try it by 
simply saying his passcode numbers one after the other, but that apparently 
didn’t do anything. So he turned voice control off, and was able to enter his 
code. Still, if you were in the right environment where you did not care if 
anyone overheard you, saying the numbers would be cool. Plus, I would think 
this would be a really good thing for the primary audience for whom voice 
control is intended, that is, people who can’t really use the touchscreen well. 
Wouldn’t you want a way to be able to enter your voice code using voice control?
Mary


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RE: voice control problem

2019-09-22 Thread Carolyn Arnold
And, also, I understand that Accessibilities will be on the main list in 
Settings? 

Where in settings will one go to get the feature for no calls to ring unless 
they are in Contacts? I suppose that would be in Phone? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Jennie
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Subject: RE: voice control problem

It is a new feature in iOS 13 that allows one to control their phone with their 
voice. That is the short version. You can find it in settings then 
accessibility.

Jenn

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Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 1:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: voice control problem

What is Voice Control? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 3:05 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: voice control problem

Hi,

I believe Voice control is only available in U.S. English right now. Maybe 
setting your region to U.S. would fix the problem. Of course, doing that might 
create other problems, but you could try it temporarily to see.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 22, 2019, at 1:45 PM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
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> I’ve had this problem on and off. If I turn off voice control, turn the 
> iPhone off and then wait until the next day, it starts working again. This is 
> also on an iPhone 7. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2019, at 18:51, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> I have an iPhone 7 and 3 gb free memory and the phone is connected to wifi.
>> When I turn voice control on I get a message "failed to download 
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>> voice, the language in the Voice Control section still shows as 
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RE: voice control problem

2019-09-22 Thread Jennie
It is a new feature in iOS 13 that allows one to control their phone with their 
voice. That is the short version. You can find it in settings then 
accessibility.

Jenn

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What is Voice Control? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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Hi,

I believe Voice control is only available in U.S. English right now. Maybe 
setting your region to U.S. would fix the problem. Of course, doing that might 
create other problems, but you could try it temporarily to see.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 22, 2019, at 1:45 PM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
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> I’ve had this problem on and off. If I turn off voice control, turn the 
> iPhone off and then wait until the next day, it starts working again. This is 
> also on an iPhone 7. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2019, at 18:51, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> I have an iPhone 7 and 3 gb free memory and the phone is connected to wifi.
>> When I turn voice control on I get a message "failed to download 
>> necessary files". I notice that although the region setting shows 
>> South Africa and the speech in VoiceOver settings is set to the SA 
>> voice, the language in the Voice Control section still shows as 
>> "United States" and it seems that one can not change this. Is this a common 
>> problem?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
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RE: voice control problem

2019-09-22 Thread Carolyn Arnold
What is Voice Control? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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Hi,

I believe Voice control is only available in U.S. English right now. Maybe 
setting your region to U.S. would fix the problem. Of course, doing that might 
create other problems, but you could try it temporarily to see.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 22, 2019, at 1:45 PM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ve had this problem on and off. If I turn off voice control, turn the 
> iPhone off and then wait until the next day, it starts working again. This is 
> also on an iPhone 7. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2019, at 18:51, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> I have an iPhone 7 and 3 gb free memory and the phone is connected to wifi.
>> When I turn voice control on I get a message "failed to download 
>> necessary files". I notice that although the region setting shows 
>> South Africa and the speech in VoiceOver settings is set to the SA 
>> voice, the language in the Voice Control section still shows as 
>> "United States" and it seems that one can not change this. Is this a common 
>> problem?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
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Re: voice control problem

2019-09-22 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi,

I believe Voice control is only available in U.S. English right now. Maybe 
setting your region to U.S. would fix the problem. Of course, doing that might 
create other problems, but you could try it temporarily to see.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 22, 2019, at 1:45 PM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> I’ve had this problem on and off. If I turn off voice control, turn the 
> iPhone off and then wait until the next day, it starts working again. This is 
> also on an iPhone 7. 
> Harry
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2019, at 18:51, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list
>> I have an iPhone 7 and 3 gb free memory and the phone is connected to wifi.
>> When I turn voice control on I get a message "failed to download necessary
>> files". I notice that although the region setting shows South Africa and the
>> speech in VoiceOver settings is set to the SA voice, the language in the
>> Voice Control section still shows as "United States" and it seems that one
>> can not change this. Is this a common problem?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
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Re: voice control problem

2019-09-22 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
I’ve had this problem on and off. If I turn off voice control, turn the iPhone 
off and then wait until the next day, it starts working again. This is also on 
an iPhone 7. 
Harry

> On 22 Sep 2019, at 18:51, Fanus Buys  wrote:
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> Hello list
> I have an iPhone 7 and 3 gb free memory and the phone is connected to wifi.
> When I turn voice control on I get a message "failed to download necessary
> files". I notice that although the region setting shows South Africa and the
> speech in VoiceOver settings is set to the SA vpoice, the language in the
> Voice Control section still shows as "United States" and it seems that one
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> Regards
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Re: voice control problem

2019-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
You probably need to report this to Apple accessibility accessibil...@apple.com
Richard



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> On Sep 22, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
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> I have an iPhone 7 and 3 gb free memory and the phone is connected to wifi.
> When I turn voice control on I get a message "failed to download necessary
> files". I notice that although the region setting shows South Africa and the
> speech in VoiceOver settings is set to the SA vpoice, the language in the
> Voice Control section still shows as "United States" and it seems that one
> can not change this. Is this a common problem?
> Regards
> Fanus
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voice control problem

2019-09-22 Thread Fanus Buys
Hello list
I have an iPhone 7 and 3 gb free memory and the phone is connected to wifi.
When I turn voice control on I get a message "failed to download necessary
files". I notice that although the region setting shows South Africa and the
speech in VoiceOver settings is set to the SA vpoice, the language in the
Voice Control section still shows as "United States" and it seems that one
can not change this. Is this a common problem?
Regards
Fanus



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Re: My iPhone 4 activates Voice Control spontaneously, should I reset?

2013-09-24 Thread Chris H
I don't think raise to speak is available with voice control. Anyway up 
to now a restore seems to have worked.


On 24/09/2013 05:53, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Could you be activating it with raise and speek- Sometimes a sudden movement 
could do this. Personally i've not seen this behavior.
Best,


Ioana



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On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Chris H  wrote:

Good evening all.
Since yesterday, my iPhone 4 will spontaneously activate Voice Control, even 
though I only tapped the home button and not held it down. This is happening in 
the lock screen up to now. It's sure frustrating as I could be making an 
unsuspecting call. It's not doing it all the time hence spontaneously. It 
happendd once yesterday and once today.
Should I consider erasing all content and settings?
It is running iOS 7 and must admit it's coming up to two years next month so am 
looking forward to a shiny upgraded phone.
Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: My iPhone 4 activates Voice Control spontaneously, should I reset?

2013-09-23 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Could you be activating it with raise and speek- Sometimes a sudden movement 
could do this. Personally i've not seen this behavior. 
Best,


Ioana



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> On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Chris H  wrote:
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> Good evening all.
> Since yesterday, my iPhone 4 will spontaneously activate Voice Control, even 
> though I only tapped the home button and not held it down. This is happening 
> in the lock screen up to now. It's sure frustrating as I could be making an 
> unsuspecting call. It's not doing it all the time hence spontaneously. It 
> happendd once yesterday and once today.
> Should I consider erasing all content and settings?
> It is running iOS 7 and must admit it's coming up to two years next month so 
> am looking forward to a shiny upgraded phone.
> Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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My iPhone 4 activates Voice Control spontaneously, should I reset?

2013-09-23 Thread Chris H

Good evening all.
Since yesterday, my iPhone 4 will spontaneously activate Voice Control, 
even though I only tapped the home button and not held it down. This is 
happening in the lock screen up to now. It's sure frustrating as I could 
be making an unsuspecting call. It's not doing it all the time hence 
spontaneously. It happendd once yesterday and once today.

Should I consider erasing all content and settings?
It is running iOS 7 and must admit it's coming up to two years next 
month so am looking forward to a shiny upgraded phone.

Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: iOS 7 and Voice Control

2013-09-20 Thread Chris H

No because Siri requires a data connection whereas Voice Control doesn't.

On 20/09/2013 02:31, DJ wrote:

Isn't that just using Siri to perform those tasks?  If Siri was turned off,
wouldn't voice control not be available?

DJ


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It appears to be working just fine.  I asked, what time is it?  Voice Over
came back with the correct time.  I then asked voice control to call my home

phone. giving the number.  Perfect!  It appears to be working fine.  I
should say too that I use a bluetooth ear peace which has a better mike then

just holding the iPhone 4 in my hand.
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Subject: iOS 7 and Voice Control



This is just a shot, but how well is Voice Control working in iOS 7? This
is basically siri without the bells and whistles and is the only option on



a non-siri device. I imagine it's available on Siri devices too, but only
if Siri is set to off.

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RE: iOS 7 and Voice Control

2013-09-19 Thread DJ
Isn't that just using Siri to perform those tasks?  If Siri was turned off,
wouldn't voice control not be available?

DJ


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It appears to be working just fine.  I asked, what time is it?  Voice Over 
came back with the correct time.  I then asked voice control to call my home

phone. giving the number.  Perfect!  It appears to be working fine.  I 
should say too that I use a bluetooth ear peace which has a better mike then

just holding the iPhone 4 in my hand.
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:13 PM
Subject: iOS 7 and Voice Control


> This is just a shot, but how well is Voice Control working in iOS 7? This 
> is basically siri without the bells and whistles and is the only option on

> a non-siri device. I imagine it's available on Siri devices too, but only 
> if Siri is set to off.
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iOS 7 and Voice Control

2013-09-19 Thread Chris H
This is just a shot, but how well is Voice Control working in iOS 7? 
This is basically siri without the bells and whistles and is the only 
option on a non-siri device. I imagine it's available on Siri devices 
too, but only if Siri is set to off.


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Re: iOS 7 and Voice Control

2013-09-19 Thread Alan Paganelli
It appears to be working just fine.  I asked, what time is it?  Voice Over 
came back with the correct time.  I then asked voice control to call my home 
phone. giving the number.  Perfect!  It appears to be working fine.  I 
should say too that I use a bluetooth ear peace which has a better mike then 
just holding the iPhone 4 in my hand.

---

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Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


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Subject: iOS 7 and Voice Control


This is just a shot, but how well is Voice Control working in iOS 7? This 
is basically siri without the bells and whistles and is the only option on 
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bluetooth headset not accepting voice control

2012-06-24 Thread Dave Bahr

Hi list,

I apologize, if this is off topic but I'm at the end of my iphone rope 
here. This is a pretty long detailed post, so if you have a fast read to 
end feature you might want to use it, but I would greatly appreciate if 
this be read in its entirety.  Insert lost in space robot voice, 
warning! warning! warning!


I just bought a plantronics voyager pro hd headset and it worked fine 
with voice control until about a month ago. Now I press the button and 
get the long bep, but no tripple g tone telling me that the 
headset responded to the phone and then no beep for siri or, if I've 
turned siri off, no regular beep for voice commands. I have ios 5.1 with 
an iphone 4s with verizon. Upon searching the web I noticed a lot of 
complaints about this feature not working but primarily in ios 3 and 
3.1. Anyone else had this issue? It's beyond frustrating as I need hands 
free stuff when working my dog or on busses and all that. Below is a 
list of things I've tried all multiple times. Sometimes it worked for a 
few attempts but most times it was one attempt or two and then nothing, 
silence after the long beep.


1. re pairing headset
2. turning headset off and on
3. turning phone off and on
4. forgetting device, turning bluetooth off, turning phone off and back 
on, turning on bluetooth, then re pairing headset. In this case, voice 
commands worked once and then later when I had to power off the headset, 
nothing.

5. soft reset of phone.
6. reset of network settings

7. Updated headset's firmware to latest version.
8.. searched apple forums and googled problem, all suggestions were ones I had 
tried but most were complaints and frustrated customers who, like me, had 
bought the iphone to do this exact feature only to find it didn't work. 
stunning.
9. gone into apple store where young acne-ridden kid told me via the genius bar 
that he had no idea why it wasn't working, sorry, good luck. thanks for a waste 
of a long bus trip to the mall. good thing there's a food court.

two things I have not done because they are drastic measures.

1. restore the phone to factory defaults. This means redoing all voiceover 
related features and syncing everything over again.
2. called apple support but don't have massively expensive protection plan and 
don't feel like paying someone to tell me that that feature is flakey and 
there's nothing they can do about it, sorry, thanks for your money.
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So, this is almost nauseating to write about. I've had computer troubles of 
plenty, have done things with my pc and window-eyes that are far more complex 
and involved than just one button. Apple, supposedly reliable and confident in 
their products to a fault, is not on the good ship lollypop right now. Unless 
it's an acid pop.
I must say, I apologize for the long posting, but as I said I'm at the end of 
the rope.

any help? any at all? before I take my 500 dollar sorry excuse for a phone and 
do something irreparable to it? Ok so I'm not that stupid but still...
Dave C. Bahr

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