Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Kay Malmquist]

Thank much.  I appreciate the help.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Last version of IOS 12?


  On Apple's page concerning iOS 12, 12.5.1 is the last version.



  Richard


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when I was young."
  "Why, what did she tell you?"
  "I don't know, I didn't listen."
  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:



The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
version of i o s 12 was.  Thanks

Kay Malmquist
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Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Cristobal Munoz]

Looks like they just released version 12.5.1 today for bug fixes.

https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/11/ios-12-5-1-covid-19-exposure-notifications/

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  On Apple's page concerning iOS 12, 12.5.1 is the last version. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
>> version of i o s 12 was.  Thanks
>> 
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Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Joseph Hudson]

It's just been so long since I've had 12 on my phone.I saw that after Richard 
wrote it.

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:16 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Wrong. It is 12.5.1. 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Joseph Hudson
> Verzonden: maandag 11 januari 2021 20:07
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Re: Last version of IOS 12?
> 
> I believe it is 12.3.
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>> 
>> The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
>> version of i o s 12 was.  Thanks 
>> 
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RE: Last version of IOS 12?

[davycuppens]

Wrong. It is 12.5.1. 

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Verzonden: maandag 11 januari 2021 20:07
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Onderwerp: Re: Last version of IOS 12?

I believe it is 12.3.

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
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> The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
> version of i o s 12 was.  Thanks 
> 
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Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Joseph Hudson]

I believe it is 12.3.

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
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> The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
> version of i o s 12 was.  Thanks 
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Re: Last version of IOS 12?

[Richard Turner]

On Apple's page concerning iOS 12, 12.5.1 is the last version.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:


The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last version 
of i o s 12 was.  Thanks

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

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Last version of IOS 12?

[Kay Malmquist]

The subject pretty much says it all.  Can someone tell me what the last 
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Re: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

[Richard Turner]

I could not find my other reply, so have no idea, but the answer is the same.
I do not believe you can copy files to an external drive via a cable with iOS 
12.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 18, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Amirudin Abdullah  
wrote:

hi richard,
thanks for replying. so, since my ios 12 cannot run ios 13, that's why
i am looking for otg.
for the reply on the other thread, i tried searching for otg for email
archives but since i didnt find enough info that's why i asked. Could
you point me where you replies? under what subject?
thanks


On 7/19/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
I may have answered this under a different thread, but I think that
capability came with iOS 13 and your 5S will not run iOS 13.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

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Amirudin Abdullah
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

Hi,
i want to connect my usb pendrive, to be used with iphone 5s ios 12 to
transfer files from and to it.
so, what is the recommended otg cable that works with voice over?
because from my understanding, when using otg with apple, you also need to
install a dedicated app from that manufacturer that sells the otg cable so
that you can access the files. so i wnat an accessible app for this.
i hope it is available in my store here in Malaysia.
thanks

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Re: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

[Amirudin Abdullah]

hi richard,
thanks for replying. so, since my ios 12 cannot run ios 13, that's why
i am looking for otg.
for the reply on the other thread, i tried searching for otg for email
archives but since i didnt find enough info that's why i asked. Could
you point me where you replies? under what subject?
thanks


On 7/19/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I may have answered this under a different thread, but I think that
> capability came with iOS 13 and your 5S will not run iOS 13.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
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> Herbert
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: otg with iphone 5s ios 12
>
> Hi,
> i want to connect my usb pendrive, to be used with iphone 5s ios 12 to
> transfer files from and to it.
> so, what is the recommended otg cable that works with voice over?
> because from my understanding, when using otg with apple, you also need to
> install a dedicated app from that manufacturer that sells the otg cable so
> that you can access the files. so i wnat an accessible app for this.
> i hope it is available in my store here in Malaysia.
> thanks
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RE: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

[Richard Turner]

I may have answered this under a different thread, but I think that capability 
came with iOS 13 and your 5S will not run iOS 13.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amirudin 
Abdullah
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: otg with iphone 5s ios 12

Hi,
i want to connect my usb pendrive, to be used with iphone 5s ios 12 to transfer 
files from and to it.
so, what is the recommended otg cable that works with voice over?
because from my understanding, when using otg with apple, you also need to 
install a dedicated app from that manufacturer that sells the otg cable so that 
you can access the files. so i wnat an accessible app for this.
i hope it is available in my store here in Malaysia.
thanks

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otg with iphone 5s ios 12

[Amirudin Abdullah]

Hi,
i want to connect my usb pendrive, to be used with iphone 5s ios 12 to
transfer files from and to it.
so, what is the recommended otg cable that works with voice over?
because from my understanding, when using otg with apple, you also
need to install a dedicated app from that manufacturer that sells the
otg cable so that you can access the files. so i wnat an accessible
app for this.
i hope it is available in my store here in Malaysia.
thanks

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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Kay;
I found that in order to move through the fields with more accuracy it is best 
to use the next or, the previous button.Hope this helps

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> I ran in to one that I had to fill in the fields consecutively and this 
> included the fields like second address where you would put in the apartment 
> number.  If I didn't select the field it would not let me type in the city 
> name.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> According to the Office for National Statistics
>  
> 190,374
>  People are having sex right now
>  
> 212,130
>  Are kissing
>  
> And one poor ole fart is reading emails
>  
> You hang in there sunshine!  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kathy Brandt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12
> 
> Usually this happens at the beginning of the process, but sometimes, if I 
> can’t get the edit field to work, I raise the page up and fill in what I can, 
> going backwards,, or, if nothing fills in, I leave Safari, close it out of 
> the app switcher, and then bring it up again, which lets me then fill in the 
> boxes. I’ve done this later option when at times I haven’t been able to 
> select text from a website to paste into a Mail message.
> 
> On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Besides, that is not the only problem.  Sometimes when I double tap on an 
> edit field to make it edit, it will not turn in to an is editing field no 
> matter what I do.  Unfortunately, this is really broken on my phone now.Since 
> upgrading to 12 I have not been able to finish a form.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> According to the Office for National Statistics
>  
> 190,374
>  People are having sex right now
>  
> 212,130
>  Are kissing
>  
> And one poor ole fart is reading emails
>  
> You hang in there sunshine!  
> - Original Message -
> From: Anthony Vece
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12
> 
> Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen 
> hide the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
>> I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
>> like an iPod without a Sim card.
>> Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
>> I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
>> iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
>> checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
>> left and then it works.
>> Not always of course.
>> I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and 
>> I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.
>> Richard
>>  Live long and prosper
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
>> Malmquist
>> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12
>> No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of 
>> weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and 
>> am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
>> situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
>> complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  
>> maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
>> mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
>> like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
>> what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and 
>> there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is 
>> there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but 
>> this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before. 
>>  Please help.
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>> According to the Office for National Statistics
>>  
>> 190,374
>>  People are having sex right now
>>  
>> 212,130
>>  Are kissing
>>  
>> And one poor ole fart is reading emails
>>  
&

Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

[Kay Malmquist]

I ran in to one that I had to fill in the fields consecutively and this 
included the fields like second address where you would put in the apartment 
number.  If I didn't select the field it would not let me type in the city 
name.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

According to the Office for National Statistics

190,374
 People are having sex right now

212,130
 Are kissing

And one poor ole fart is reading emails

You hang in there sunshine!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Brandt
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 2:28 PM
  Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12


  Usually this happens at the beginning of the process, but sometimes, if I 
can’t get the edit field to work, I raise the page up and fill in what I 
can, going backwards,, or, if nothing fills in, I leave Safari, close it out 
of the app switcher, and then bring it up again, which lets me then fill in 
the boxes. I’ve done this later option when at times I haven’t been able to 
select text from a website to paste into a Mail message.

  On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kay Malmquist  
wrote:


  Besides, that is not the only problem.  Sometimes when I double tap on an 
edit field to make it edit, it will not turn in to an is editing field no 
matter what I do.  Unfortunately, this is really broken on my phone 
now.Since upgrading to 12 I have not been able to finish a form.

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  According to the Office for National Statistics

  190,374
   People are having sex right now

  212,130
   Are kissing

  And one poor ole fart is reading emails

  You hang in there sunshine!

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Vece
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12


Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the 
screen hide the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!


  On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


  
  Hi,

  Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?

  I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m 
using like an iPod without a Sim card.

  Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.

  I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, 
but with iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field 
or checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by 
flicking left and then it works.

  Not always of course.

  I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver 
on and I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.




  Richard


   Live long and prosper



  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12


  No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple 
of weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 
and am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a 
strange situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able 
to complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to 
happen.  maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in 
to edit mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had 
troubles like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the 
way or what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone 
and there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what. 
Is there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, 
but this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble 
before.  Please help.


  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com


  According to the Office for National Statistics

  190,374
   People are having sex right now

  212,130
   Are kissing

  And one poor ole fart is reading emails

  You hang in there sunshine!

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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

[Kathy Brandt]

Usually this happens at the beginning of the process, but sometimes, if I can’t 
get the edit field to work, I raise the page up and fill in what I can, going 
backwards,, or, if nothing fills in, I leave Safari, close it out of the app 
switcher, and then bring it up again, which lets me then fill in the boxes. 
I’ve done this later option when at times I haven’t been able to select text 
from a website to paste into a Mail message.

On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:

Besides, that is not the only problem.  Sometimes when I double tap on an edit 
field to make it edit, it will not turn in to an is editing field no matter 
what I do.  Unfortunately, this is really broken on my phone now.Since 
upgrading to 12 I have not been able to finish a form.
 
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
 
According to the Office for National Statistics
 
190,374
 People are having sex right now
 
212,130
 Are kissing
 
And one poor ole fart is reading emails
 
You hang in there sunshine!  
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Vece
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen hide 
the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hi,
> Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
> I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
> like an iPod without a Sim card.
> Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
> I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
> iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
> checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
> left and then it works.
> Not always of course.
> I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and 
> I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.
> Richard
>  Live long and prosper
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12
> No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of weeks 
> ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and am 
> quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
> situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
> complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  
> maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
> mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
> like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
> what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and there 
> is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is there a 
> setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but this is 
> really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before.  Please 
> help.
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

[Kathy Brandt]

More often it seems, after filling in some edit fields, I have to go slightly 
below and double tap on a done button before proceeding.

On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:

I've never had to do that before.  To be quite honest, I don't know how to hide 
the keyboard.  Why would this be happening now?
 
Kay Malmquist
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 People are having sex right now
 
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 Are kissing
 
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- Original Message -
From: Anthony Vece
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen hide 
the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hi,
> Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
> I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
> like an iPod without a Sim card.
> Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
> I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
> iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
> checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
> left and then it works.
> Not always of course.
> I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and 
> I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.
> Richard
>  Live long and prosper
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12
> No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of weeks 
> ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and am 
> quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
> situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
> complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  
> maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
> mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
> like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
> what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and there 
> is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is there a 
> setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but this is 
> really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before.  Please 
> help.
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> According to the Office for National Statistics
>  
> 190,374
>  People are having sex right now
>  
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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

[Kay Malmquist]

Besides, that is not the only problem.  Sometimes when I double tap on an 
edit field to make it edit, it will not turn in to an is editing field no 
matter what I do.  Unfortunately, this is really broken on my phone 
now.Since upgrading to 12 I have not been able to finish a form.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

According to the Office for National Statistics

190,374
 People are having sex right now

212,130
 Are kissing

And one poor ole fart is reading emails

You hang in there sunshine!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
  Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12


  Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen 
hide the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!


On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



Hi,

Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?

I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m 
using like an iPod without a Sim card.

Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.

I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but 
with iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
left and then it works.

Not always of course.

I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on 
and I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.







Richard



 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12



No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of 
weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and 
am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen. 
maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and 
there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is 
there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but 
this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before. 
Please help.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

[Kay Malmquist]

I've never had to do that before.  To be quite honest, I don't know how to 
hide the keyboard.  Why would this be happening now?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

According to the Office for National Statistics

190,374
 People are having sex right now

212,130
 Are kissing

And one poor ole fart is reading emails

You hang in there sunshine!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:43 AM
  Subject: Re: problems with forms in IOS 12


  Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen 
hide the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!


On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



Hi,

Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?

I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m 
using like an iPod without a Sim card.

Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.

I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but 
with iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
left and then it works.

Not always of course.

I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on 
and I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.







Richard



 Live long and prosper





Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12



No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of 
weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and 
am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen. 
maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and 
there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is 
there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but 
this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before. 
Please help.



Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

[Anthony Vece]

Make sure when you use check boxes that your keyboard is not on the screen hide 
the keyboard and that’ll usually solve it.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
> I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
> like an iPod without a Sim card.
> Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
> I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
> iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
> checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
> left and then it works.
> Not always of course.
> I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and 
> I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
> Malmquist
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12
>  
> No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of weeks 
> ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and am 
> quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
> situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
> complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  
> maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
> mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
> like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
> what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and there 
> is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is there a 
> setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but this is 
> really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before.  Please 
> help.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>  
> According to the Office for National Statistics
>  
> 190,374
>  People are having sex right now
>  
> 212,130
>  Are kissing
>  
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Re: problems with forms in IOS 12

[Kay Malmquist]

Sure,
One was
BlindMiceMegaMall.com
You have to scroll down quite a ways passed the log in link to the register 
link.  The same as shipping address would not check.  That is one that comes 
to mind and I will try to remember some more.  The problem is I thought it 
was me, so at first I blew it off.  I can go in on my computer to do these 
forms, but have never had to do this before.  Another one was signing in for 
something for my dog with Ruffwear.  Let me try to be more specific the next 
time something comes up.

Kay Malmquist
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212,130
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 9:41 AM
  Subject: RE: problems with forms in IOS 12


  Hi,

  Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?

  I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m 
using like an iPod without a Sim card.

  Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.

  I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but 
with iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or 
checkbox that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking 
left and then it works.

  Not always of course.

  I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on 
and I have to toggle it off and get sighted help.







  Richard



   Live long and prosper





  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12



  No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of 
weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and 
am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen. 
maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and 
there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is 
there a setting that I don't know about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but 
this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before. 
Please help.



  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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   People are having sex right now

  212,130
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RE: problems with forms in IOS 12

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Could you give a link to a form so someone could test it?
I’m happy to do that.  I have my iPhone 5S running iOS 12.4.2 that I’m using 
like an iPod without a Sim card.
Then, I have my SE running iOS 13.1.1.
I know some web forms are just a royal pain with any screen reader, but with 
iOS in particular there are times I have to scroll beyond the field or checkbox 
that is giving me fits and then work my way back to it by flicking left and 
then it works.
Not always of course.
I have also found that some checkboxes just won’t work with VoiceOver on and I 
have to toggle it off and get sighted help.



Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problems with forms in IOS 12

No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of weeks 
ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and am quite 
familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange situation 
though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to complete a form.  
I have tried several and different things seem to happen.  maybe a check box 
won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit mode and just a bunch 
of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles like this before and 
wondered if there is something getting in the way or what is going on.  I have 
had a couple of other people try my phone and there is definitely something 
going on but no one seems to know what.  Is there a setting that I don't know 
about?  I can't hardly imagine this, but this is really frustrating and I have 
never had this kind of trouble before.  Please help.

Kay Malmquist
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[Kay Malmquist]

No, I have not upgraded to 13.  I upgraded to IOS 12.4 just a couple of 
weeks ago.  I want to explain that I have been an iPhone user since 2011 and 
am quite familiar with using forms of all types.  I have run in to a strange 
situation though.  Ever since upgrading to 12, I have not been able to 
complete a form.  I have tried several and different things seem to happen. 
maybe a check box won't check or uncheck.  maybe fields won't go in to edit 
mode and just a bunch of weird stuff like this.  I have never had troubles 
like this before and wondered if there is something getting in the way or 
what is going on.  I have had a couple of other people try my phone and 
there is definitely something going on but no one seems to know what.  Is 
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this is really frustrating and I have never had this kind of trouble before. 
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Re: How to Disable Camera Access from Lockscreen in iOS 12 on iPhone

[James English]

This will also stop aps from using the camera, be my eyes/AiRa/taptapsee etc.

On 5/16/19, Robert Wright  wrote:
> Make a note, be aware that this hides the camera everywhere not just on the
> lock screen.
>
>
> If all I have left in this world is God, I have
> everything!
>
>
>     Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How to Disable Camera Access from Lockscreen in iOS 12 on
> iPhone
>
> Hi Herry,
> Thank you for this, but I can’t seem to use this as I copied and pasted
> below the reason.
>
> How to Remove Camera from Lockscreen in iOS 12 or Later
>
> Step #1. Launch Settings app on your iOS device → Tap on Screen Time.
> Janet got this far, that is as far as I could get.  In this session, I got
> the message saying to turn on turn on screen time, and I got a message
> saying I could get a weekly report about my screen time etc. That’s all I
> get.  I even turned on the screen time to see what other options I would
> get, but I didn’t get any options like what it says in these instructions.
>
> Step #3. Next, tap on Content & Privacy Restrictions. If you had enabled
> passcode for Screen Time, you need to enter it.
>
> Step #4. Turn on the switch next to Content & Privacy Restrictions.
>
> Step #5. Next up, tap on Allowed Apps.
>
> Step #6. Finally, turn off the switch next to Camera. Now, quit the
> Settings.
>
>
>
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:24 PM
> To: Abridged Recipients
> Subject: How to Disable Camera Access from Lockscreen in iOS 12 on iPhone
>
>
> https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-camera-access-from-lockscreen-on-iphone/
> How to Disable Camera Access from iPhone Lockscreen in iOS 12 or Earlier
> Last Updated: Jan 21, 2019
> No longer want anyone to access the Camera right from the Lock screen of
> your iPhone or iPad running iOS 12, iOS 11 or Earlier? Check out this quick
> tip to disable the unauthorized access to Camera on your iOS device.
> Many a time, we quickly want to snap a pic of the beautiful moments so that
> they can be cherished forever. And that’s the time when Camera app access
> from iPhone’s Lock Screen comes in very handy. Just swipe left on the screen
> to jump to the camera, hit the shutter button and you are done!
> While this is undoubtedly a cool feature, some of you may want to disable
> the Camera access from Lock Screen on your iPhone to prevent anyone from
> snapping shots without your permission. Luckily, iOS lets you restrict the
> app but with a little catch.
> When you put the stock camera app under restriction, it’s hidden not just
> from LS but also from your device. Moreover, it doesn’t show up even in the
> Spotlight Search. So, use this trick only when you want to keep this app
> completely out of sight.
> Quick access:
> • Prevent Camera Access from Lock Screen in iOS 12 or Later
> • Disable the Camera Access from the Lock screen in iOS 11 or Earlier
> How to Remove Camera from Lockscreen in iOS 12 or Later
> Step #1. Launch Settings app on your iOS device → Tap on Screen Time.
>
> Step #3. Next, tap on Content & Privacy Restrictions. If you had enabled
> passcode for Screen Time, you need to enter it.
>
> Step #4. Turn on the switch next to Content & Privacy Restrictions.
>
> Step #5. Next up, tap on Allowed Apps.
>
> Step #6. Finally, turn off the switch next to Camera. Now, quit the
> Settings.
>
> Check out; you’ve successfully stopped the Camera app from being opened from
> LS on your iPhone!
> Later, if you decide to remove the restriction, simply follow the same steps
> explained above and then turn on the switch in the end.
> One more thing worth noting is that “Restriction” has become the part of
> Screen Time in iOS 12. If your device is running iOS 11 or earlier, keep
> reading.
> How to Disable the Camera Access from the Lock screen in iOS 11 or Earlier
> To prevent Camera access from the Lockscreen of your iPhone, make sure you
> have enabled Restrictions on your device.
> Step #1. Launch Settings app on your iPhone → Tap on General.
>
> Step #2. Next, tap on Restrictions → Enter your Restrictions passcode.
>
> Step #3. Finally, toggle the switch next to the Camera.
>
> That’s it!
> From now on Camera won’t be accessed from the Lock screen. Besides, you will
> find it missing on your iPhone.
> If you ever wish to enable it again, go to Settings → General → Restrictions
> → Enter passcode and turn on the switch next to the camera.
> That’s done!
> More Tips For Securing Lock Screen on iPhone and iPad?
> There are many ways you 

RE: How to Disable Camera Access from Lockscreen in iOS 12 on iPhone

[Carolyn Arnold]

I turned off Screen Time. I don't care how much screen time I use, and I think 
it helps my battery life some. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Disable Camera Access from Lockscreen in iOS 12 on iPhone

Hi Herry, 

Thank you for this, but I can’t seem to use this as I copied and pasted below 
the reason. 

 


How to Remove Camera from Lockscreen in iOS 12 or Later


 


Step #1. Launch Settings app on your iOS device → Tap on Screen Time.

Janet got this far, that is as far as I could get.  In this session, I got the 
message saying to turn on turn on screen time, and I got a message saying I 
could get a weekly report about my screen time etc. That’s all I get.  I even 
turned on the screen time to see what other options I would get, but I didn’t 
get any options like what it says in these instructions. 

 

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Tap-on-Settings-Then-Tap-on-Screen-Time-on-iPhone.jpg>
 Step #3. Next, tap on Content & Privacy Restrictions. If you had enabled 
passcode for Screen Time, you need to enter it.

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Tap-on-Content-Privacy-Restrictions-in-Screen-Time.png>
 
Step #4. Turn on the switch next to Content & Privacy Restrictions.

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Turn-on-Switch-next-to-Content-Privacy-Restrictions-in-iOS-12-Screen-Time.jpg>
 

Step #5. Next up, tap on Allowed Apps.

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Tap-on-Allowed-Apps-in-iOS-12-Screen-Time.jpg>
 

Step #6. Finally, turn off the switch next to Camera. Now, quit the Settings.

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Turn-Off-Camera-Access-from-Lock-Screen-in-iOS-12.jpg>
 

 

 

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:24 PM
To: Abridged Recipients
Subject: How to Disable Camera Access from Lockscreen in iOS 12 on iPhone

 


https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-camera-access-from-lockscreen-on-iphone/


How to Disable Camera Access from iPhone Lockscreen in iOS 12 or Earlier


Last Updated: Jan 21, 2019

No longer want anyone to access the Camera right from the Lock screen of your 
iPhone or iPad running iOS 12, iOS 11 or Earlier? Check out this quick tip to 
disable the unauthorized access to Camera on your iOS device.

Many a time, we quickly want to snap a pic of the beautiful moments so that 
they can be cherished forever. And that’s the time when Camera app access from 
iPhone’s Lock Screen comes in very handy. Just swipe left on the screen to jump 
to the camera, hit the shutter button and you are done!

While this is undoubtedly a cool feature, some of you may want to disable the 
Camera access from Lock Screen on your iPhone to prevent anyone from snapping 
shots without your permission. Luckily, iOS lets you restrict the app but with 
a little catch.

When you put the stock camera app under restriction, it’s hidden not just from 
LS but also from your device. Moreover, it doesn’t show up even in the 
Spotlight Search. So, use this trick only when you want to keep this app 
completely out of sight.

Quick access:

*   Prevent Camera Access from Lock Screen in iOS 12 or Later
*   Disable the Camera Access from the Lock screen in iOS 11 or Earlier


How to Remove Camera from Lockscreen in iOS 12 or Later


Step #1. Launch Settings app on your iOS device → Tap on Screen Time.

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Tap-on-Settings-Then-Tap-on-Screen-Time-on-iPhone.jpg>
 

Step #3. Next, tap on Content & Privacy Restrictions. If you had enabled 
passcode for Screen Time, you need to enter it.

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Tap-on-Content-Privacy-Restrictions-in-Screen-Time.png>
 
Step #4. Turn on the switch next to Content & Privacy Restrictions.

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Turn-on-Switch-next-to-Content-Privacy-Restrictions-in-iOS-12-Screen-Time.jpg>
 

Step #5. Next up, tap on Allowed Apps.

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Tap-on-Allowed-Apps-in-iOS-12-Screen-Time.jpg>
 

Step #6. Finally, turn off the switch next to Camera. Now, quit the Settings.

 
<https://storage.googleapis.com/igeeksblog/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Turn-Off-Camera-Access-from-Lock-Screen-in-iOS-12.jpg>
 

Check out; you’ve successfully stopped the Camera app from being opened from LS 
on your iPhone!

Later, if you decide to remove the restriction, simply follow the same steps 
explained above and then turn on the switch in the end.

One

How to Disable Camera Access from Lockscreen in iOS 12 on iPhone

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-disable-camera-access-from-lockscreen-on-iphone/

How to Disable Camera Access from iPhone Lockscreen in iOS 12 or Earlier
Last Updated: Jan 21, 2019
No longer want anyone to access the Camera right from the Lock screen of your 
iPhone or iPad running iOS 12, iOS 11 or Earlier? Check out this quick tip to 
disable the unauthorized access to Camera on your iOS device.

Many a time, we quickly want to snap a pic of the beautiful moments so that 
they can be cherished forever. And that’s the time when Camera app access from 
iPhone’s Lock Screen comes in very handy. Just swipe left on the screen to jump 
to the camera, hit the shutter button and you are done!

While this is undoubtedly a cool feature, some of you may want to disable the 
Camera access from Lock Screen on your iPhone to prevent anyone from snapping 
shots without your permission. Luckily, iOS lets you restrict the app but with 
a little catch.

When you put the stock camera app under restriction, it’s hidden not just from 
LS but also from your device. Moreover, it doesn’t show up even in the 
Spotlight Search. So, use this trick only when you want to keep this app 
completely out of sight.

Quick access:

Prevent Camera Access from Lock Screen in iOS 12 or Later
Disable the Camera Access from the Lock screen in iOS 11 or Earlier
How to Remove Camera from Lockscreen in iOS 12 or Later

Step #1. Launch Settings app on your iOS device → Tap on Screen Time.



Step #3. Next, tap on Content & Privacy Restrictions. If you had enabled 
passcode for Screen Time, you need to enter it.


Step #4. Turn on the switch next to Content & Privacy Restrictions.



Step #5. Next up, tap on Allowed Apps.



Step #6. Finally, turn off the switch next to Camera. Now, quit the Settings.



Check out; you’ve successfully stopped the Camera app from being opened from LS 
on your iPhone!

Later, if you decide to remove the restriction, simply follow the same steps 
explained above and then turn on the switch in the end.

One more thing worth noting is that “Restriction” has become the part of Screen 
Time in iOS 12. If your device is running iOS 11 or earlier, keep reading.

How to Disable the Camera Access from the Lock screen in iOS 11 or Earlier

To prevent Camera access from the Lockscreen of your iPhone, make sure you have 
enabled Restrictions on your device.

Step #1. Launch Settings app on your iPhone → Tap on General.



Step #2. Next, tap on Restrictions → Enter your Restrictions passcode.



Step #3. Finally, toggle the switch next to the Camera.



That’s it!

>From now on Camera won’t be accessed from the Lock screen. Besides, you will 
>find it missing on your iPhone.

If you ever wish to enable it again, go to Settings → General → Restrictions → 
Enter passcode and turn on the switch next to the camera.

That’s done!

More Tips For Securing Lock Screen on iPhone and iPad?

There are many ways you can secure Lock screen on your iOS device. For 
instance, you will be able to disallow notifications from your personal apps 
and even prevent Siri from being invoked when the device is locked.

We have made a complete guide about the smart ways through which you can 
safeguard the LS on your iOS device. So, do check that out, if you want more 
security.

You’d like to refer these posts as well:

How to Encrypt a PDF File on iPhone or iPad
How to View Saved Passwords Using Siri in iOS 12 and macOS Mojave
How to Change Default Password AutoFill Provider in iOS 12 on iPhone and iPad
How to Lock Apps on iPhone
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Re: making a timer on iOS 12 vibrate only?

[Dave Jones]

 Sorry about that. I was thinking about something else. I see that the
process is indeed different regarding setting the sound for the timer in
iOS 12.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 6:42 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> I do not know what setting you are looking at, but there is no sound
> setting for Timer in settings.
> You set the sound in the timer and there is no option to have no sound.
> Hence, my recommendation.
> I would be happy to be proven wrong though.
> Richard
>
>
> "He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."
>
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> 1648)
>
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2019, at 3:37 PM, Dave Jones  wrote:
>
>  Under sounds in settings, set the timer sound to none.
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:37 AM Richard Turner <
> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam,
>> If you have the sounds set to vibrate on ring, and make a custom ringtone
>> that is silent, and set that as your timer sound, it will work.
>> But, there is no option for vibrate only with the timer.
>> Sounds like a good suggestion for Apple as someone who is deaf or hard of
>> hearing could certainly find this useful. Not to mention those who do not
>> want to disturb someone around them.
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."
>>
>> Edward Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury (March 3, 1583 – August
>> 20, 1648)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2019, at 2:13 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Wondering if there is a way to have your timers from the clock app
>> vibrate instead of playing a tone.
>> If not does anyone know of an app where I can accomplish this?
>> TIA.
>>
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Re: making a timer on iOS 12 vibrate only?

[Richard Turner]

I do not know what setting you are looking at, but there is no sound setting 
for Timer in settings.
You set the sound in the timer and there is no option to have no sound.
Hence, my recommendation.
I would be happy to be proven wrong though.
Richard



"He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."

Edward Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury (March 3, 1583 – August 20, 1648)


On Jan 2, 2019, at 3:37 PM, Dave Jones 
mailto:grou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 Under sounds in settings, set the timer sound to none.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:37 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:




Adam,
If you have the sounds set to vibrate on ring, and make a custom ringtone that 
is silent, and set that as your timer sound, it will work.
But, there is no option for vibrate only with the timer.
Sounds like a good suggestion for Apple as someone who is deaf or hard of 
hearing could certainly find this useful. Not to mention those who do not want 
to disturb someone around them.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."

Edward Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury (March 3, 1583 – August 20, 1648)


On Jan 2, 2019, at 2:13 AM, Adam Morris 
mailto:li...@damorris.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
Wondering if there is a way to have your timers from the clock app vibrate 
instead of playing a tone.
If not does anyone know of an app where I can accomplish this?
TIA.


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Re: making a timer on iOS 12 vibrate only?

[Dave Jones]

 Under sounds in settings, set the timer sound to none.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:37 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Adam,
> If you have the sounds set to vibrate on ring, and make a custom ringtone
> that is silent, and set that as your timer sound, it will work.
> But, there is no option for vibrate only with the timer.
> Sounds like a good suggestion for Apple as someone who is deaf or hard of
> hearing could certainly find this useful. Not to mention those who do not
> want to disturb someone around them.
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others, breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."
>
> Edward Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury (March 3, 1583 – August 20,
> 1648)
>
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2019, at 2:13 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Wondering if there is a way to have your timers from the clock app vibrate
> instead of playing a tone.
> If not does anyone know of an app where I can accomplish this?
> TIA.
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Re: making a timer on iOS 12 vibrate only?

[Richard Turner]

Adam,
If you have the sounds set to vibrate on ring, and make a custom ringtone that 
is silent, and set that as your timer sound, it will work.
But, there is no option for vibrate only with the timer.
Sounds like a good suggestion for Apple as someone who is deaf or hard of 
hearing could certainly find this useful. Not to mention those who do not want 
to disturb someone around them.
Richard
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himself, for every man hath need to be forgiven."

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On Jan 2, 2019, at 2:13 AM, Adam Morris 
mailto:li...@damorris.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
Wondering if there is a way to have your timers from the clock app vibrate 
instead of playing a tone.
If not does anyone know of an app where I can accomplish this?
TIA.


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making a timer on iOS 12 vibrate only?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,
Wondering if there is a way to have your timers from the clock app 
vibrate instead of playing a tone.

If not does anyone know of an app where I can accomplish this?
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RE: battery drain in ios 12

[Louise Peyton]

Hi, Richard:
My next step is to call Apple accessibility and talk with them.  We do have an 
Apple store in town though I dread fighting the crowd this time of year.  
Thanks.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery drain in ios 12

On my SE, the battery life stayed the same or perhaps got better. My guess is 
that it is an app, but I think you already checked your battery usage, right?
Do you have access to an Apple store where they could check your phone out?
Richard



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On Dec 1, 2018, at 4:49 PM, Louise Peyton 
mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Siegard:
Several weeks ago, I followed instructions provided by you and others regarding 
my battery draining issue with Ios 12.  I reset network settings, and left the 
phone plugged in and turned off over night.  However, the battery still drains 
quickly.  It didn’t do this with Ios 11.  I’m puzzled as to what to try next.  
Ideas?  Thanks.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: battery drain in ios 12

Also, if you just updated battery will most likely be used more during the 
first couple of days after the update since the phone is reindexing a lot of 
stuff.
As Sean said, give it a few days, then do a Reset Network Settings and also, 
afterwards, plug in your phone, then turn it off completely over night leaving 
it plugged in. Turn it on the next morning and see how it behaves.
Just out of curiocity, did you do anything in preparation for the upgrade or 
did you just tell it to install when it prompted you?
Lastly, remember that after you do a Reset Network Settings you have to 
reconnect to your WiFi and you will need to enter the WiFi Password, also, if 
you renamed your phone or if it is called anything other than simply “iPhone”, 
then you have to go to Settings > General > About and rename it in there.


From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:00 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: battery drain in ios 12

Have you turned off screen time as well? With this on, your phone will log how 
long you use it each day, thus draining your battery. Turning this feature off 
should reduce the strain on your battery. HTH.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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On Oct 15, 2018, at 7:10 PM, Donna 
mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
draining problem.

Donna

Hello, all:
Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains quite 
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appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should change?  Thanks 
in advance.
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RE: battery drain in ios 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Unfortunately Mario's experience would indicate that  if all these things don't 
help a complete reset would be your next step and you may even have to set up 
as a new phone and then download your apps and add your content again. This is 
a lot of work, but occasionally this is the way to go.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 7:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery drain in ios 12

On my SE, the battery life stayed the same or perhaps got better. My guess is 
that it is an app, but I think you already checked your battery usage, right?
Do you have access to an Apple store where they could check your phone out?
Richard



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On Dec 1, 2018, at 4:49 PM, Louise Peyton 
mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Siegard:
Several weeks ago, I followed instructions provided by you and others regarding 
my battery draining issue with Ios 12.  I reset network settings, and left the 
phone plugged in and turned off over night.  However, the battery still drains 
quickly.  It didn’t do this with Ios 11.  I’m puzzled as to what to try next.  
Ideas?  Thanks.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: battery drain in ios 12

Also, if you just updated battery will most likely be used more during the 
first couple of days after the update since the phone is reindexing a lot of 
stuff.
As Sean said, give it a few days, then do a Reset Network Settings and also, 
afterwards, plug in your phone, then turn it off completely over night leaving 
it plugged in. Turn it on the next morning and see how it behaves.
Just out of curiocity, did you do anything in preparation for the upgrade or 
did you just tell it to install when it prompted you?
Lastly, remember that after you do a Reset Network Settings you have to 
reconnect to your WiFi and you will need to enter the WiFi Password, also, if 
you renamed your phone or if it is called anything other than simply “iPhone”, 
then you have to go to Settings > General > About and rename it in there.


From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:00 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: battery drain in ios 12

Have you turned off screen time as well? With this on, your phone will log how 
long you use it each day, thus draining your battery. Turning this feature off 
should reduce the strain on your battery. HTH.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
draining problem.

Donna

Hello, all:
Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains quite 
quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location services 
appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should change?  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

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Re: battery drain in ios 12

[Richard Turner]

On my SE, the battery life stayed the same or perhaps got better. My guess is 
that it is an app, but I think you already checked your battery usage, right?
Do you have access to an Apple store where they could check your phone out?
Richard



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On Dec 1, 2018, at 4:49 PM, Louise Peyton 
mailto:lp2...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, Siegard:
Several weeks ago, I followed instructions provided by you and others regarding 
my battery draining issue with Ios 12.  I reset network settings, and left the 
phone plugged in and turned off over night.  However, the battery still drains 
quickly.  It didn’t do this with Ios 11.  I’m puzzled as to what to try next.  
Ideas?  Thanks.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: battery drain in ios 12

Also, if you just updated battery will most likely be used more during the 
first couple of days after the update since the phone is reindexing a lot of 
stuff.
As Sean said, give it a few days, then do a Reset Network Settings and also, 
afterwards, plug in your phone, then turn it off completely over night leaving 
it plugged in. Turn it on the next morning and see how it behaves.
Just out of curiocity, did you do anything in preparation for the upgrade or 
did you just tell it to install when it prompted you?
Lastly, remember that after you do a Reset Network Settings you have to 
reconnect to your WiFi and you will need to enter the WiFi Password, also, if 
you renamed your phone or if it is called anything other than simply “iPhone”, 
then you have to go to Settings > General > About and rename it in there.


From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:00 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: battery drain in ios 12

Have you turned off screen time as well? With this on, your phone will log how 
long you use it each day, thus draining your battery. Turning this feature off 
should reduce the strain on your battery. HTH.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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On Oct 15, 2018, at 7:10 PM, Donna 
mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
draining problem.

Donna

Hello, all:
Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains quite 
quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location services 
appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should change?  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

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RE: battery drain in ios 12

[Louise Peyton]

Hi, Siegard:
Several weeks ago, I followed instructions provided by you and others regarding 
my battery draining issue with Ios 12.  I reset network settings, and left the 
phone plugged in and turned off over night.  However, the battery still drains 
quickly.  It didn’t do this with Ios 11.  I’m puzzled as to what to try next.  
Ideas?  Thanks.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: battery drain in ios 12

Also, if you just updated battery will most likely be used more during the 
first couple of days after the update since the phone is reindexing a lot of 
stuff.
As Sean said, give it a few days, then do a Reset Network Settings and also, 
afterwards, plug in your phone, then turn it off completely over night leaving 
it plugged in. Turn it on the next morning and see how it behaves.
Just out of curiocity, did you do anything in preparation for the upgrade or 
did you just tell it to install when it prompted you?
Lastly, remember that after you do a Reset Network Settings you have to 
reconnect to your WiFi and you will need to enter the WiFi Password, also, if 
you renamed your phone or if it is called anything other than simply “iPhone”, 
then you have to go to Settings > General > About and rename it in there.


From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:00 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: battery drain in ios 12

Have you turned off screen time as well? With this on, your phone will log how 
long you use it each day, thus draining your battery. Turning this feature off 
should reduce the strain on your battery. HTH.

Regards,
Shawn,
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On Oct 15, 2018, at 7:10 PM, Donna 
mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
draining problem.

Donna

Hello, all:
Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains quite 
quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location services 
appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should change?  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

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RE: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi marie,
Nope they are from people that I know. Like I say though, it's such a rare 
problem in my case that I just call them back and have done with it.
Thanks for the tip about resetting network settings though. I do know about 
this but I must admit it's not something I've tried. I will make sure to turn 
off iCloud keychain first so I don't lose all my wifi passwords!
Matthew

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Sent: 20 November 2018 17:14
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Subject: Re: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

Are these calls from people you recognize, or unknown calls? If they are the 
latter, sometimes when spam calls are answered, there is actually no one on the 
other end of the call. If it is happening with calls from contacts, there is a 
definite problem. However I am not experiencing this with either the 6S or the 
8, but I normally do not answer unknown numbers.
Things to try:
do a soft reboot.
Reset network settings. (this will require re-entering any networks you have 
previously joined and changing the name of the phone if you have set a specific 
name)
Marie


From: Matthew Horspool
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Subject: RE: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

Hi,
Yes I've noticed it on an iPhone 8 on EE in the UK, but not often. It is very 
frustrating and I can't find a fix. It happens sometimes on outgoing calls too.
Matthew

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Subject: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls


I have noticed since IOS 12 that often I will get an incoming call.  When I do 
a 2 finger double tap to answer it it seems to answer but I hear nothing.  
After a half minute or so the call hangs up.



I looked through the settings and can't find anything that seems to affect this.



Has anyone else noticed this?  It is driving me crazy.





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Re: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

['christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone]

Simply double tap on the group to expand. To "show less", double tap on the 
appropriate button.

> On 18 Nov 2018, at 22:03, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications 
> were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a 
> group of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and 
> get the separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the 
> group, single finger swiping down to get choices of view or manage but 
> neither seems to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the 
> list. I really don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would 
> like to be able to peruse the other notifications in the group as it used to 
> do before iOS 12.
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Re: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

[Marie N.]

Are these calls from people you recognize, or unknown calls? If they are the 
latter, sometimes when spam calls are answered, there is actually no one on the 
other end of the call. If it is happening with calls from contacts, there is a 
definite problem. However I am not experiencing this with either the 6S or the 
8, but I normally do not answer unknown numbers.
Things to try:
do a soft reboot.
Reset network settings. (this will require re-entering any networks you have 
previously joined and changing the name of the phone if you have set a specific 
name)
Marie


From: Matthew Horspool 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 5:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

Hi,

Yes I've noticed it on an iPhone 8 on EE in the UK, but not often. It is very 
frustrating and I can't find a fix. It happens sometimes on outgoing calls too.

Matthew

 

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Dan
Sent: 19 November 2018 19:33
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

 

I have noticed since IOS 12 that often I will get an incoming call.  When I do 
a 2 finger double tap to answer it it seems to answer but I hear nothing.  
After a half minute or so the call hangs up.

 

I looked through the settings and can't find anything that seems to affect this.

 

Has anyone else noticed this?  It is driving me crazy.

 

  

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RE: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

[Matthew Horspool]

Hi,
Yes I've noticed it on an iPhone 8 on EE in the UK, but not often. It is very 
frustrating and I can't find a fix. It happens sometimes on outgoing calls too.
Matthew

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Subject: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls


I have noticed since IOS 12 that often I will get an incoming call.  When I do 
a 2 finger double tap to answer it it seems to answer but I hear nothing.  
After a half minute or so the call hangs up.



I looked through the settings and can't find anything that seems to affect this.



Has anyone else noticed this?  It is driving me crazy.





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RE: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No issue here on my 6S Plus, also not something I remember being brought up 
before on the list.
Are you sure you don't have a Bluetooth headset somewhere which is on so that 
maybe the call goes to that although one would assume that then you also don't 
hear Voiceover.
I would try a reboot first, make sure you close everything before you do this, 
might also be a good idea that once the phone is turned off you partially pop 
out the SIM tray and push it back in, then turn your phone on again.
If that doesn't help I'd do a Reset Network Settings, remember you will have to 
reconnect to your wiFi afterwards and also rename your phone in Settings > 
General > About, a reset network settings puts the name back to just "iPhone".
Lastly, make sure your screen is clean and nothing interferes with the 
proximity sensor area which is I believe above the cut-out at the top of the 
phone where the earpiece is.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls


I have noticed since IOS 12 that often I will get an incoming call.  When I do 
a 2 finger double tap to answer it it seems to answer but I hear nothing.  
After a half minute or so the call hangs up.



I looked through the settings and can't find anything that seems to affect this.



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Iphone 6 and IOS 12 and incoming phone calls

[Dan]

  
  
I have noticed since IOS 12 that often I will get an incoming
call.  When I do a 2 finger double tap to answer it it seems to
answer but I hear nothing.  After a half minute or so the call
hangs up.

  
I looked through the settings and can't find anything that
seems to affect this.

  
Has anyone else noticed this?  It is driving me crazy.

  
  

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Re: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

['Louana Sterling' via VIPhone]

Rotter to action then flick to acctivate then you should be able to see all in 
the group. Hth

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:03 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications 
> were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a 
> group of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and 
> get the separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the 
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> do before iOS 12.
>  
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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RE: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I'm not sure I understand exactly what your problem is, but I have 12.1. 
Anyway, regardless of which I have had, I check my Home Page periodically, and 
if there are Notifications, it will say so. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications 
were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a group 
of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and get the 
separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the group, 
single finger swiping down to get choices of view or manage but neither seems 
to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the list. I really 
don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would like to be able 
to peruse the other notifications in the group as it used to do before iOS 12.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

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Re: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

[Candy Lowe]

hi Ellen, when you get to the group of notifications that you are interested 
in, let’s just say it is USA today, then do a double tap. Right then voiceover 
should say expanded. Then flipped to the right and you should get all 
notifications from USA TODAY.
then, if you flipped back to the left, voiceover will say, show less. in other 
words, those notifications will then be collapsed. I hope this helps. If not, 
just shoot me another text and I’ll be glad to help more.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:03 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications 
> were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a 
> group of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and 
> get the separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the 
> group, single finger swiping down to get choices of view or manage but 
> neither seems to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the 
> list. I really don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would 
> like to be able to peruse the other notifications in the group as it used to 
> do before iOS 12.
>  
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

[Maria Reyes]

double tap on the group to expand it. You should see all of the other 
notifications. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications 
> were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a 
> group of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and 
> get the separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the 
> group, single finger swiping down to get choices of view or manage but 
> neither seems to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the 
> list. I really don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would 
> like to be able to peruse the other notifications in the group as it used to 
> do before iOS 12.
>  
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>  
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IOS 12 and notifications, how do I see others in the group?

[Alan Lemly]

I remember reading when iOS 12 came out about how much better notifications
were with it. Can someone please tell me when I'm notified that I have a
group of notifications such as with my Sports Alerts app to drill down and
get the separate notifications in the group? I've tried 3D touching on the
group, single finger swiping down to get choices of view or manage but
neither seems to give the option of seeing the other notifications in the
list. I really don't want to be taken to the underlying app but simply would
like to be able to peruse the other notifications in the group as it used to
do before iOS 12.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

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Re: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Mike B.]

More energy in a bag of oats!  LOL
Take care.  Mike.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12


They could send me a new bale of hay.
Mr. Ed

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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:54 PM
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Now if Apple could only figure out a few tweaks to make old Mr. Ed run 
faster, maybe one of those $29 battery replacements would help?

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Ed
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 5:04 PM
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IPhone 6s run great on IOS 12. Runs faster than IOS 11.
Mr. Ed

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Subject: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to 
update if it will slow it down at all. I refuse to upgrade without a home 
button and/or audio port for now at least. Has anyone else updated to IOS12 
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RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Mr. Ed]

They could send me a new bale of hay.
Mr. Ed

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Now if Apple could only figure out a few tweaks to make old Mr. Ed run faster, 
maybe one of those $29 battery replacements would help?

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IPhone 6s run great on IOS 12. Runs faster than IOS 11.
Mr. Ed

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Subject: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to update 
if it will slow it down at all. I refuse to upgrade without a home button 
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RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Now if Apple could only figure out a few tweaks to make old Mr. Ed run faster, 
maybe one of those $29 battery replacements would help?

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IPhone 6s run great on IOS 12. Runs faster than IOS 11.
Mr. Ed

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Subject: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to update 
if it will slow it down at all. I refuse to upgrade without a home button 
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RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Mr. Ed]

IPhone 6s run great on IOS 12. Runs faster than IOS 11.
Mr. Ed

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RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Carolyn Arnold]

It has not slow down my SE. In fact, I seem to be getting better battery 
mileage - haven't charged since Sunday night. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to update 
if it will slow it down at all. I refuse to upgrade without a home button 
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RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I also have a 6S Plus, my wife has a 6S, but she is not a Voiceover user.
Apple stated already in June during the keynote that iOS 12 is much more about 
efficiency and performance than new features and they specifically used an 
iPhone 6 as an example showing how much faster according to tests apps open and 
so on. In real life you may not notice the milliseconds, but all in all I 
definitely think my 6S Plus runs much better which Is why I will hang on to it 
for now. I have no specific attachment to the home button or the 3.5mm 
headphone jack, but I just don't see what the faster processor, Face Id and 
wireless charging add to my daily routine, all are nice features, but they 
don't really make me that much more efficient. I am on a very good and for 
Canada cheap plan which gives me 6Gb of data and unlimited calling and texting 
nation wide so I will use my 6S Plus until it has really paid for itself which 
means at least one and quite possible two more years.


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James I am running IOS 12 on a 6 S and find it much faster than 11. and there 
are some bugs in every version of IOS including 11 but I seem to find less in 
12 than any other upgrade.
Marie


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Subject: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

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RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I agree, iOS 12 is by far the best iOS release in years.


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James I am running IOS 12 on a 6 S and find it much faster than 11. and there 
are some bugs in every version of IOS including 11 but I seem to find less in 
12 than any other upgrade.
Marie


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RE: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[R Van Lant]

I also have a 6S running IOS 12 and have not be disappointed by the upgrade.  I 
like some of the new little features and have had no bugs are slowing issues.  



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I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to update 
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Re: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[Marie N.]

James I am running IOS 12 on a 6 S and find it much faster than 11. and 
there are some bugs in every version of IOS including 11 but I seem to find 
less in 12 than any other upgrade.

Marie


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Subject: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to 
update if it will slow it down at all. I refuse to upgrade without a home 
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Re: IPhone 6s with IOS 12

['Maria Reyes' via VIPhone]

iOS 12 is way faster than iOS 11. 

> On Oct 30, 2018, at 9:00 PM, James Lockwood  wrote:
> 
> I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to 
> update if it will slow it down at all. I refuse to upgrade without a home 
> button and/or audio port for now at least. Has anyone else updated to IOS12 
> on iPhone6s can tell me if it slows it down at all or if there are any bugs 
> in calendar app or anything? Thanks for the info a head of time 
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IPhone 6s with IOS 12

[James Lockwood]

I still have an iphone 6s with IOS 11. It runs great and i dont want to update 
if it will slow it down at all. I refuse to upgrade without a home button 
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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Vicki W.]

I've been away and have hundreds of messages to catch up on, so I'm not sure 
what was said on this problem.


I noticed my battery level on my mini IPad and phone both dropped.

I double checked the display to make sure my brightness hadn't been turn on 
by itself, as it sometimes does, and on one of the devices it was up and on 
the other it was zero.


I changed that and still had an issue, so I went into both devices and 
turned off the screen manager that was introduced with IOS 12. That did the 
trick.


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12


Hearing this Makes me  Glad, I  didn't  Update My
iPhoneSE  From iOS10.3.3  TO iOS12
At 08:46 AM 10/23/2018, you wrote:
It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, but it still delivers peak 
performance according to the iPhone's battery health section.



I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.


I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.


Should be interesting considering I only have the iPhone as a phone, so 
hopefully they won't require a complete restore.



Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything about it not being 100% 
available (or whatever the phrase is.)


18 months should not have degraded much, but if you haven't spoken with 
Apple about this, I would.
I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it doesn't lose that much over 
night.


Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip 
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>

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Lisa Belville

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:Â  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was 
expected.



My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Mike B.]

Hi Sieghard,

If you open the properties of that iTunes64 file, navigate to the, Details 
tab, & route your Jaws cursor to the PC cursor you should find what the 
version is .  I have that setup.exe file and the version reads, Product 
version 12.6.3.6.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12


I seem to remember that Mark said iTunes 12.6.3 was updated as well, but I 
don't know if it's done automatically or if you are prompted to do so or if 
you have to download it. When I just tried to download the 64 bit version 
the installer file name was simply somethings like iTunesSetup64 so it 
didn't indicate the version.
On the other hand if you just want to use iTunes to update the latest 
official release of iTunes is OK, it has some issues if you want to use it 
to play music since currently Jaws or other screenreaders don't read the 
list of artists, genres etc., but the iPhone section is accessible as 
always.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 1:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

hi Sieghard
I totally agree about your recommanded iTunes version, this version has also 
the advantage of having an appstore on board.
But are we sure making backups with this version is secure?
I ask this because I noticed myself that for example supposing you want to 
update your software over iTunes, this can nolonger be done for ios12 on 
this version.
One day after ios12 came out and I wanted to test whether to update my Phone 
via iTunes or over the air, my iTunes 12.6.3 told me that my software was 
uptodate which certainly was not the case.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-25 9:41 GMT+02:00, Sieghard Weitzel :
> Hi Lisa,
>
> Don't install the Windows app store version, I made that mistake once
> and while it is supposed to be more or less the same I found it was
> not. In fact, I would recommend you get this enterprise version of
> iTunes or whatever they call it, it is I think version 12.6.3.
> Also, you don't necessarily need iTunes to do a full restore. If you
> have an iCloud backup you can go to Settings > General > Reset and do
> it from there.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.  I despise iTunes
> and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for
> it at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store. I'm
> still not sure if that's the version I should install.
>
>
> Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?
>
>
> I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important
> information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the
> restore is done.
>
>
> It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back
> that bothers me.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a
>> complete reset and set up as a new device and he then posted
>> everything was fine. I know this can be a time consuming task
>> depending on how many apps you use and how much other content is on
>> your device, but there are times when it's the only really good
>> solution. In the end you have to decide if it's worth spending the time 
>> to do this.
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>>
>> Hi, Sieghard.
>>
>>
>> Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the
>> 12.x upgrade.
>>
>>
>> generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones,
>> since the issue with battery drainage is a rare one. At this point
>> I'm a bit concerned, not actively worried. I'm not a huge traveler
>> beyond my home area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry
>> with me, so the phone can stay charged if I need it to. I'm not
>> getting a battery case because 

RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I seem to remember that Mark said iTunes 12.6.3 was updated as well, but I 
don't know if it's done automatically or if you are prompted to do so or if you 
have to download it. When I just tried to download the 64 bit version the 
installer file name was simply somethings like iTunesSetup64 so it didn't 
indicate the version.
On the other hand if you just want to use iTunes to update the latest official 
release of iTunes is OK, it has some issues if you want to use it to play music 
since currently Jaws or other screenreaders don't read the list of artists, 
genres etc., but the iPhone section is accessible as always. 

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 1:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

hi Sieghard
I totally agree about your recommanded iTunes version, this version has also 
the advantage of having an appstore on board.
But are we sure making backups with this version is secure?
I ask this because I noticed myself that for example supposing you want to 
update your software over iTunes, this can nolonger be done for ios12 on this 
version.
One day after ios12 came out and I wanted to test whether to update my Phone 
via iTunes or over the air, my iTunes 12.6.3 told me that my software was 
uptodate which certainly was not the case.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-25 9:41 GMT+02:00, Sieghard Weitzel :
> Hi Lisa,
>
> Don't install the Windows app store version, I made that mistake once 
> and while it is supposed to be more or less the same I found it was 
> not. In fact, I would recommend you get this enterprise version of 
> iTunes or whatever they call it, it is I think version 12.6.3.
> Also, you don't necessarily need iTunes to do a full restore. If you 
> have an iCloud backup you can go to Settings > General > Reset and do 
> it from there.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Lisa Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.    I despise iTunes 
> and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for 
> it at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store.  I'm 
> still not sure if that's the version I should install.
>
>
> Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?
>
>
> I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important 
> information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the 
> restore is done.
>
>
> It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back 
> that bothers me.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a 
>> complete reset and set up as a new device and he then posted 
>> everything was fine. I know this can be a time consuming task 
>> depending on how many apps you use and how much other content is on 
>> your device, but there are times when it's the only really good 
>> solution. In the end you have to decide if it's worth spending the time to 
>> do this.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>>
>> Hi, Sieghard.
>>
>>
>> Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 
>> 12.x upgrade.
>>
>>
>> generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, 
>> since the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point 
>> I'm a bit concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler 
>> beyond my home area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry 
>> with me, so the phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not 
>> getting a battery case because I'm upgrading to a newer and most 
>> likely larger sized device next year.  So for now, until I can get a 
>> definitive answer, I can keep my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 
>> without too many worries.
>>
>>
>> And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works 
>> fine for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.
>>
>>
>> Lisa Belville
>>
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>
>> On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hi Davy,
>>>
>>&g

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Davy Cuppens]

hi Sieghard
I totally agree about your recommanded iTunes version, this version
has also the advantage of having an appstore on board.
But are we sure making backups with this version is secure?
I ask this because I noticed myself that for example supposing you
want to update your software over iTunes, this can nolonger be done
for ios12 on this version.
One day after ios12 came out and I wanted to test whether to update my
Phone via iTunes or over the air, my iTunes 12.6.3 told me that my
software was uptodate which certainly was not the case.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-25 9:41 GMT+02:00, Sieghard Weitzel :
> Hi Lisa,
>
> Don't install the Windows app store version, I made that mistake once and
> while it is supposed to be more or less the same I found it was not. In
> fact, I would recommend you get this enterprise version of iTunes or
> whatever they call it, it is I think version 12.6.3.
> Also, you don't necessarily need iTunes to do a full restore. If you have an
> iCloud backup you can go to Settings > General > Reset and do it from
> there.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa
> Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.    I despise iTunes
> and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for it
> at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store.  I'm still not
> sure if that's the version I should install.
>
>
> Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?
>
>
> I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important
> information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the
> restore is done.
>
>
> It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back
> that bothers me.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a
>> complete reset and set up as a new device and he then posted everything
>> was fine. I know this can be a time consuming task depending on how many
>> apps you use and how much other content is on your device, but there are
>> times when it's the only really good solution. In the end you have to
>> decide if it's worth spending the time to do this.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>>
>> Hi, Sieghard.
>>
>>
>> Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x
>> upgrade.
>>
>>
>> generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since
>> the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit
>> concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home
>> area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the
>> phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case
>> because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device
>> next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep
>> my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.
>>
>>
>> And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine
>> for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.
>>
>>
>> Lisa Belville
>>
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>
>> On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hi Davy,
>>>
>>> You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact
>>> updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much
>>> battery, she wrote this:
>>>
>>> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for
>>> over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>>>
>>> Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and
>>> glad he hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your
>>> reply is pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is
>>> everybody's choice whether they want to update or not, but telling
>>> somebody to just update and stop argueing about battery when in fact she
>>> has updated and is simply stating a fact is rude.
>>> I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 

RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Lisa,

Don't install the Windows app store version, I made that mistake once and while 
it is supposed to be more or less the same I found it was not. In fact, I would 
recommend you get this enterprise version of iTunes or whatever they call it, 
it is I think version 12.6.3.
Also, you don't necessarily need iTunes to do a full restore. If you have an 
iCloud backup you can go to Settings > General > Reset and do it from there.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.    I despise iTunes 
and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for it 
at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store.  I'm still not 
sure if that's the version I should install.


Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?


I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important 
information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the 
restore is done.


It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back 
that bothers me.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
>
> I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a 
> complete reset and set up as a new device and he then posted everything was 
> fine. I know this can be a time consuming task depending on how many apps you 
> use and how much other content is on your device, but there are times when 
> it's the only really good solution. In the end you have to decide if it's 
> worth spending the time to do this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi, Sieghard.
>
>
> Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x 
> upgrade.
>
>
> generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since
> the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit
> concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home
> area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the
> phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case
> because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device
> next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep
> my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.
>
>
> And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine
> for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.
>
>
> Lisa Belville
>
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Davy,
>>
>> You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
>> updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
>> battery, she wrote this:
>>
>> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
>> over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>>
>> Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad 
>> he hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply 
>> is pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
>> whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
>> stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply 
>> stating a fact is rude.
>> I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also 
>> replied to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think 
>> make iOS 12 pretty compelling.
>> As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs 
>> to address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her 
>> phone to stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked 
>> and on Do Not Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery 
>> drain at best should be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 
>> hours with no useage whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous 
>> although I also think it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in 
>> the perfect world this should be maybe 3% or 4%.
>> Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
>> something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
>> phone at night and then turned it off for some

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

['Husna Begum' via VIPhone]

Hi,

which phones are they offering that battery deal for and is it available in 
the UK? also would you have to go to an apple shop to have it done or could 
they do it in other shops such as the car phone warehouse.


thanks, Husna


-Original Message- 
From: Gordon

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

You said 18 month old iPhone SE. That battery is probably a bit degraded
which would cause something like this to happen. but you can go to
settings and battery to see if you're phone is doing anything during
those six hours it's just sitting there. I recently learned that mine
was and zello was the cause. Zello was causing my phone to be in use for
around 20 minutes per hour when I was asleep one night. And the app was
closed. You might want to take advantage of the $29 battery replacement
program that Apple is offering until the end of this year.


On 10/23/2018 7:31 AM, Lisa Belville wrote:
Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for six 
or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps running, 
the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.


I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't 
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery 
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand in 
the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's not 
having issues staying connected.


Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off, 
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off, 
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have 
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've also 
rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I tried 
charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and keeping it 
plugged into the charger for about eight hours.


I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before the 
upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other apps 
where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.



My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone 
as a new device.



Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the 
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?



Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.



TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Lisa

I really have the impression that you have an app that is eating your 
battery. Question: does it happen regularly that your iphone gets warm?

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Lisa Belville

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, Sieghard.


Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x
upgrade.


generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since
the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit
concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home
area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the
phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case
because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device
next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep
my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.


And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine
for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.


Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Davy,

You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
battery, she wrote this:


Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and 
glad he hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your 
reply is pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's 
choice whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just 
update and stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is 
simply stating a fact is rude.
I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also 
replied to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think 
make iOS 12 pretty compelling.
As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she 
needs to address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she 
expects her phone to stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a 
phone is locked and on Do Not Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree 
that battery drain at best should be minimal. She says her phone drained 
8% in 6 or 7 hours with no useage whatsoever, I actually don't think that 
is outrageous although I also think it's maybe more than it should be 
since I would say in the perfect world this should be maybe 3% or 4%.
Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in 
my phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn 
it on until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it 
I found my battery seemed to last longer than before.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :
Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t 
using

it it is still running on battery

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!***

From: Lisa Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
To: V I Phone
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Gordon]

Have you tried calibrating the battery? The way this is done is to run 
it all the way down until the phone actually shuts down. Let it sit for 
about 20 minutes and then charge it all the way. I've read several 
articles that say this is a good idea ever so often.



On 10/24/2018 12:49 PM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
Lisa I appologize for the fact that I thought you had not updated yet, 
but please try the tips Sieghard gave you. there is nothing wrong by 
caarying out a network settings reset.

have a nice day!
Davy
*From:* Lisa Belville <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:16 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

No, I don't.  But I've had two different iPhones for several years, 
and I think that a several percentage drain, like from 100% to 92 with 
a locked screen and no notification or apps running in the background 
is odd.


I wouldn't t have asked the list or posted a list of things I had 
tried if I were expecting my battery to remain at 100%.


Also, as I've pointed out, this heavy drain didn't happen before iOS 12.

Lisa

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
On 10/24/2018 6:46 AM, Robert Wright wrote:


Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t 
using it it is still running on battery


character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you! ***


*From: *Lisa Belville <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
*To: *V I Phone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject: *Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12

for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for

six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps

running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't

even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery

drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand

in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's

not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,

Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,

background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have

been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've

also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I

tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and

keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before

the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other

apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was 
expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone

as a new device.

Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the

restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?

Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my

phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.

TIA for thoughts.

Lisa

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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Davy Cuppens]

Lisa I appologize for the fact that I thought you had not updated yet, but 
please try the tips Sieghard gave you. there is nothing wrong by caarying out a 
network settings reset.
have a nice day!
Davy 

From: Lisa Belville 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

No, I don't.  But I've had two different iPhones for several years, and I think 
that a several percentage drain, like from 100% to 92 with a locked screen and 
no notification or apps running in the background is odd.



I wouldn't t have asked the list or posted a list of things I had tried if I 
were expecting my battery to remain at 100%.



Also, as I've pointed out, this heavy drain didn't happen before iOS 12.




Lisa



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missktlab1...@frontier.com
On 10/24/2018 6:46 AM, Robert Wright wrote:

  Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using it 
it is still running on battery



  character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
***



  From: Lisa Belville
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
  To: V I Phone
  Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12



  Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 

  for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.





  I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for 

  six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps 

  running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.



  I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't 

  even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery 

  drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand 

  in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's 

  not having issues staying connected.



  Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off, 

  Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off, 

  background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have 

  been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've 

  also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I 

  tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and 

  keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.



  I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 

  the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other 

  apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.





  My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone 

  as a new device.





  Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the 

  restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?





  Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 

  phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.





  TIA for thoughts.





  Lisa







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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this.    I despise iTunes 
and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for it 
at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store.  I'm still not 
sure if that's the version I should install.



Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help?


I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important 
information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the 
restore is done.



It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back 
that bothers me.



Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Lisa,

I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a complete 
reset and set up as a new device and he then posted everything was fine. I know 
this can be a time consuming task depending on how many apps you use and how 
much other content is on your device, but there are times when it's the only 
really good solution. In the end you have to decide if it's worth spending the 
time to do this.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, Sieghard.


Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x 
upgrade.


generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since
the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit
concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home
area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the
phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case
because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device
next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep
my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.


And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine
for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.


Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Davy,

You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
battery, she wrote this:

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad he 
hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply is 
pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply stating 
a fact is rude.
I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also replied 
to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think make iOS 12 
pretty compelling.
As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs to 
address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her phone to 
stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked and on Do Not 
Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery drain at best should 
be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours with no useage 
whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous although I also think 
it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in the perfect world this 
should be maybe 3% or 4%.
Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn it on 
until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it I found my 
battery seemed to last longer than before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :

Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you

RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Lisa,

I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a complete 
reset and set up as a new device and he then posted everything was fine. I know 
this can be a time consuming task depending on how many apps you use and how 
much other content is on your device, but there are times when it's the only 
really good solution. In the end you have to decide if it's worth spending the 
time to do this.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, Sieghard.


Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x 
upgrade.


generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since 
the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit 
concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home 
area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the 
phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case 
because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device 
next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep 
my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.


And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine 
for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.


Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Davy,
>
> You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
> updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
> battery, she wrote this:
>
> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
> over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>
> Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad 
> he hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply is 
> pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
> whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
> stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply 
> stating a fact is rude.
> I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also replied 
> to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think make iOS 12 
> pretty compelling.
> As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs 
> to address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her 
> phone to stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked 
> and on Do Not Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery drain 
> at best should be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours with 
> no useage whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous although I 
> also think it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in the perfect 
> world this should be maybe 3% or 4%.
> Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
> something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
> phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn it on 
> until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it I found 
> my battery seemed to last longer than before.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
> Cuppens
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi Lisa
> The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
> ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
> maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
> while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
> know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
> worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
> snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
> update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
> which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
> Regards
> Davy
>
> 2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :
>> Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using
>> it it is still running on battery
>>
>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
>> you!    ***
>>
>> From: Lisa Belville
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
>> To: V I Phone
>> Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, Sieghard.


Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x 
upgrade.



generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since 
the issue with battery drainage is a rare one.  At this point I'm a bit 
concerned, not actively worried.  I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home 
area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the 
phone can stay charged if I need it to.  I'm not getting a battery case 
because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device 
next year.  So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep 
my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries.



And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed.  Siri works fine 
for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with.



Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Davy,

You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
battery, she wrote this:

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad he 
hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply is 
pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply stating 
a fact is rude.
I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also replied 
to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think make iOS 12 
pretty compelling.
As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs to 
address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her phone to 
stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked and on Do Not 
Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery drain at best should 
be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours with no useage 
whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous although I also think 
it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in the perfect world this 
should be maybe 3% or 4%.
Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn it on 
until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it I found my 
battery seemed to last longer than before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :

Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using
it it is still running on battery

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!    ***

From: Lisa Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
To: V I Phone
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Richard Turner]

Lisa,
Have you gone through all the settings to see if something got enabled during 
the update that you had not had on before?

I hope you can check with Apple, as this does seem more than normal for sure.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." — 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 24, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Lisa Belville 
mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>> wrote:


No, I don't.  But I've had two different iPhones for several years, and I think 
that a several percentage drain, like from 100% to 92 with a locked screen and 
no notification or apps running in the background is odd.


I wouldn't t have asked the list or posted a list of things I had tried if I 
were expecting my battery to remain at 100%.


Also, as I've pointed out, this heavy drain didn't happen before iOS 12.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com<mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>


On 10/24/2018 6:46 AM, Robert Wright wrote:
Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using it 
it is still running on battery

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

From: Lisa Belville<mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
To: V I Phone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

No, I don't.  But I've had two different iPhones for several years, and 
I think that a several percentage drain, like from 100% to 92 with a 
locked screen and no notification or apps running in the background is odd.



I wouldn't t have asked the list or posted a list of things I had tried 
if I were expecting my battery to remain at 100%.



Also, as I've pointed out, this heavy drain didn't happen before iOS 12.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/24/2018 6:46 AM, Robert Wright wrote:


Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t 
using it it is still running on battery


character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you! ***


*From: *Lisa Belville <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
*To: *V I Phone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject: *Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12

for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for

six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps

running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't

even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery

drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand

in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's

not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,

Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,

background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have

been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've

also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I

tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and

keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before

the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other

apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was 
expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone

as a new device.

Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the

restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?

Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my

phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.

TIA for thoughts.

Lisa

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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Davy,

You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact 
updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much 
battery, she wrote this:

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.

Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and glad he 
hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your reply is 
pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is everybody's choice 
whether they want to update or not, but telling somebody to just update and 
stop argueing about battery when in fact she has updated and is simply stating 
a fact is rude.
I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also replied 
to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think make iOS 12 
pretty compelling.
As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she needs to 
address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she expects her phone to 
stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a phone is locked and on Do Not 
Disturb and nothing else is going on I agree that battery drain at best should 
be minimal. She says her phone drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours with no useage 
whatsoever, I actually don't think that is outrageous although I also think 
it's maybe more than it should be since I would say in the perfect world this 
should be maybe 3% or 4%.
Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised by 
something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged in my 
phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to turn it on 
until the next morning and when I then turned it on and unplugged it I found my 
battery seemed to last longer than before.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :
> Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using
> it it is still running on battery
>
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
> you!    ***
>
> From: Lisa Belville
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
> To: V I Phone
> Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
> for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>
>
> I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
> six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
> running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.
>
> I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
> even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
> drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
> in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
> not having issues staying connected.
>
> Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
> Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
> background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
> been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
> also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
> tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
> keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.
>
> I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
> the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
> apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was
> expected.
>
>
> My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
> as a new device.
>
>
> Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
> restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?
>
>
> Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
> phone.  And, as I sa

Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Davy Cuppens]

Hi Lisa
The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to
ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves.
maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3
while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't
know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and
worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and
snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please
update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings
which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update.
Regards
Davy

2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright :
> Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using
> it it is still running on battery
>
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
> you!    ***
>
> From: Lisa Belville
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
> To: V I Phone
> Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12
> for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>
>
> I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
> six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
> running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.
>
> I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
> even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
> drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
> in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
> not having issues staying connected.
>
> Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
> Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
> background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
> been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
> also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
> tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
> keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.
>
> I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
> the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
> apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was
> expected.
>
>
> My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
> as a new device.
>
>
> Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
> restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?
>
>
> Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
> phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.
>
>
> TIA for thoughts.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Robert Wright]

Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t using it 
it is still running on battery

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Lisa Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM
To: V I Phone
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for 
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps 
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't 
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery 
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand 
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's 
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off, 
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off, 
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have 
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've 
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I 
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and 
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other 
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone 
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the 
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are very few people who have such battery issues and doing a few simple 
preparations before you upgrade like making sure all apps are closed and 
turning your phone off and back on reduce the likelyhood even further. Apart 
from that I certainly enjoy how snappy iOS 12 is on my iPhone 6S Plus, how 
stabil it runs  and features like SIRI Shortcuts, Airplay 2 etc. Hopefully 
person to person payments with Apple Pay will make it to Canada soon since that 
is another really neat feature I know I would use since most of my friends and 
family have iPhones.
iOS 12 is by far the best iOS Apple has released in the last 5 or so years.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hearing this Makes me  Glad, I  didn't  Update My 
iPhoneSE  From iOS10.3.3  TO iOS12
At 08:46 AM 10/23/2018, you wrote:
>It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, 
>but it still delivers peak performance according 
>to the iPhone's battery health section.
>
>
>I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.
>
>
>I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.
>
>
>Should be interesting considering I only have 
>the iPhone as a phone, so hopefully they won't require a complete restore.
>
>
>Lisa
>
>
>Lisa Belville
>missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
>On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything 
>>about it not being 100% available (or whatever the phrase is.)
>>
>>18 months should not have degraded much, but if 
>>you haven't spoken with Apple about this, I would.
>>I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it 
>>doesn't lose that much over night.
>>
>>Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been 
>>and a spirt is a drip under pressure.† ­ Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> >
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
>>To: V I Phone 
>>Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>>
>>Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old 
>>iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over a month 
>>and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>>
>>
>>I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
>>six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
>>running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.
>>
>>I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
>>even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
>>drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
>>in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
>>not having issues staying connected.
>>
>>Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:Â  Screen time is off,
>>Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
>>background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
>>been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
>>also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
>>tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
>>keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.
>>
>>I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
>>the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
>>apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.
>>
>>
>>My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
>>as a new device.
>>
>>
>>Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
>>restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?
>>
>>
>>Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
>>phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.
>>
>>
>>TIA for thoughts.
>>
>>
>>Lisa
>>
>>
>>
>>   Â --
>>
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>>missktlab1...@frontier.com
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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Robin]

Hearing this Makes me  Glad, I  didn't  Update My 
iPhoneSE  From iOS10.3.3  TO iOS12

At 08:46 AM 10/23/2018, you wrote:
It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, 
but it still delivers peak performance according 
to the iPhone's battery health section.



I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.


I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.


Should be interesting considering I only have 
the iPhone as a phone, so hopefully they won't require a complete restore.



Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything 
about it not being 100% available (or whatever the phrase is.)


18 months should not have degraded much, but if 
you haven't spoken with Apple about this, I would.
I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it 
doesn't lose that much over night.


Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been 
and a spirt is a drip under pressure.† ­ Bruce U. Utah Phillips

>

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Lisa Belville

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old 
iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over a month 
and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:Â  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Correct, it is for the iPhone 6 and up, but in this case up means newer and not 
older, if you have an iPhone 5S you don't qualify for the $29 battery 
replacement.
I have a 6S Plus and my wife has a 6S and we both had our batteries changed by 
Apple at the end of May, we showed both I think 83% or 84% capacity. Not sure 
if they'll change it if it is at 92%.
Like some suggested, after you have it sitting there even for 2 hours with no 
activity check your battery usage and see what is says for standby time and 
usage time, it should hardly any usage time at all, if it does then some app or 
process is active and you can see if a Reset Network Settings will fix it, if 
you already did this you maybe have to dop a complete reset and start from 
scratch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, but it still delivers 
peak performance according to the iPhone's battery health section.


I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.


I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.


Should be interesting considering I only have the iPhone as a phone, so 
hopefully they won't require a complete restore.


Lisa


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missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
> Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything about it not being 100% 
> available (or whatever the phrase is.)
>
> 18 months should not have degraded much, but if you haven't spoken with Apple 
> about this, I would.
> I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it doesn't lose that much over 
> night.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Belville
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
> To: V I Phone 
> Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12
>
> Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for 
> over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.
>
>
> I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
> six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
> running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.
>
> I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
> even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
> drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
> in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
> not having issues staying connected.
>
> Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
> Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
> background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
> been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
> also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
> tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
> keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.
>
> I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
> the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
> apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.
>
>
> My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
> as a new device.
>
>
> Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
> restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?
>
>
> Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
> phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.
>
>
> TIA for thoughts.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

It say the batter is operating at 92% capacity, but it still delivers 
peak performance according to the iPhone's battery health section.



I didn't have these problems, either until I did the 12.0 upgrade.


I'll give Apple a call and see what they suggest.


Should be interesting considering I only have the iPhone as a phone, so 
hopefully they won't require a complete restore.



Lisa


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On 10/23/2018 8:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything about it not being 100% 
available (or whatever the phrase is.)

18 months should not have degraded much, but if you haven't spoken with Apple 
about this, I would.
I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it doesn't lose that much over 
night.

Richard



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Belville
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off,
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off,
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

Hmm, I thought the free battery promotion was only for the iPhone 6 and 
up?  The SE came out after that if I remember correctly.




Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/23/2018 7:36 AM, Gordon wrote:
You said 18 month old iPhone SE. That battery is probably a bit 
degraded which would cause something like this to happen. but you can 
go to settings and battery to see if you're phone is doing anything 
during those six hours it's just sitting there. I recently learned 
that mine was and zello was the cause. Zello was causing my phone to 
be in use for around 20 minutes per hour when I was asleep one night. 
And the app was closed. You might want to take advantage of the $29 
battery replacement program that Apple is offering until the end of 
this year.



On 10/23/2018 7:31 AM, Lisa Belville wrote:
Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone 
for six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no 
apps running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.


I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone 
isn't even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This 
battery drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my 
nightstand in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there 
again, it's not having issues staying connected.


Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is 
off, Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake 
is off, background app refresh is off, Email and other push 
notifications have been disabled, network settings have been reset at 
least twice.  I've also rebooted the phone with the power/home button 
combo.  Last week I tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down 
completely, and keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight 
hours.


I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or 
other apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that 
was expected.



My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the 
phone as a new device.



Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do 
the restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?



Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.



TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Four-Finger Horizontal Swipe Stopped Working in iOS 12

[Steve Matzura]

That's an interesting one about which I did not know.


On 10/23/2018 10:35 AM, Traci Duncan wrote:

I am having inconsistent results with this gesture as well.

On the other hand, I am having consistent results with the 3-D gesture. Hold 
your thumb down, along the very left side of your screen, maybe in the middle. 
So the left middle, if that makes sense. This is consistently working for me to 
bring up app switcher.

Traci

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:47 PM, Donna  wrote:

Me too!✋ Using the 4 finger swipe to move from one app to another in the app switcher 
works for some apps but not others. I have found consistency in the order of some apps in 
which the swipe gesture doesn’t work. For example, I can’t swipe from Facebook to the  
VoiceDream app or vice versa. Nor can I swipe from Ordit, a game app to Safari or vice 
versa. But if VoiceDream & Ordit are not in the app switcher I have no trouble swiping 
from Facebook to Safari., even if there are other apps in the app switcher in order between 
Safari & Facebook. This leads me to think that the problem is within the VoiceDream 
& Ordit apps.

Donna

I was so hoping that the four-finger horizontal swipe to move among open 
applications problem where when swiping past the last open application would 
drop the user to the home screen would be fixed in iOS 12. Instead of fixing 
it, I can't get this gesture to do anything. Everyone tells me it works on 
their phones, I must be doing something wrong. While this is probably accurate 
and correct in the majority of cases (ha ha), not this time. I have had others 
try the gesture on my 8 Plus with iOS 12.1, VoiceOver running, at least two 
applications open, and it does absolutely nothing. Does anyone else have this 
problem? Has the gesture been changed and I just missed it in the release notes?


TIA



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Re: Four-Finger Horizontal Swipe Stopped Working in iOS 12

[Traci Duncan]

I am having inconsistent results with this gesture as well.

On the other hand, I am having consistent results with the 3-D gesture. Hold 
your thumb down, along the very left side of your screen, maybe in the middle. 
So the left middle, if that makes sense. This is consistently working for me to 
bring up app switcher.

Traci

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:47 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Me too!✋ Using the 4 finger swipe to move from one app to another in the app 
> switcher works for some apps but not others. I have found consistency in the 
> order of some apps in which the swipe gesture doesn’t work. For example, I 
> can’t swipe from Facebook to the  VoiceDream app or vice versa. Nor can I 
> swipe from Ordit, a game app to Safari or vice versa. But if VoiceDream & 
> Ordit are not in the app switcher I have no trouble swiping from Facebook to 
> Safari., even if there are other apps in the app switcher in order between 
> Safari & Facebook. This leads me to think that the problem is within the 
> VoiceDream & Ordit apps. 
> 
> Donna  
> 
> I was so hoping that the four-finger horizontal swipe to move among open 
> applications problem where when swiping past the last open application would 
> drop the user to the home screen would be fixed in iOS 12. Instead of fixing 
> it, I can't get this gesture to do anything. Everyone tells me it works on 
> their phones, I must be doing something wrong. While this is probably 
> accurate and correct in the majority of cases (ha ha), not this time. I have 
> had others try the gesture on my 8 Plus with iOS 12.1, VoiceOver running, at 
> least two applications open, and it does absolutely nothing. Does anyone else 
> have this problem? Has the gesture been changed and I just missed it in the 
> release notes?
>> 
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>> TIA
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RE: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Richard Turner]

Under Settings, Battery, does it show anything about it not being 100% 
available (or whatever the phrase is.)

18 months should not have degraded much, but if you haven't spoken with Apple 
about this, I would.
I purchased my SE in December last 2017 and it doesn't lose that much over 
night.

Richard



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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:31 AM
To: V I Phone 
Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 for over 
a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.


I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for 
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps 
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.

I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't 
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery 
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand 
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's 
not having issues staying connected.

Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off, 
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off, 
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have 
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've 
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I 
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and 
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.

I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other 
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.


My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone 
as a new device.


Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the 
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?


Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.


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Lisa



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Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Gordon]

You said 18 month old iPhone SE. That battery is probably a bit degraded 
which would cause something like this to happen. but you can go to 
settings and battery to see if you're phone is doing anything during 
those six hours it's just sitting there. I recently learned that mine 
was and zello was the cause. Zello was causing my phone to be in use for 
around 20 minutes per hour when I was asleep one night. And the app was 
closed. You might want to take advantage of the $29 battery replacement 
program that Apple is offering until the end of this year.



On 10/23/2018 7:31 AM, Lisa Belville wrote:
Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for 
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps 
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.


I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone 
isn't even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This 
battery drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my 
nightstand in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there 
again, it's not having issues staying connected.


Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is 
off, Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake 
is off, background app refresh is off, Email and other push 
notifications have been disabled, network settings have been reset at 
least twice.  I've also rebooted the phone with the power/home button 
combo.  Last week I tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down 
completely, and keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight 
hours.


I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other 
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was 
expected.



My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the 
phone as a new device.



Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do 
the restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?



Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.



TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, all.  I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE.  I've had iOS 12 
for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues.



I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for 
six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps 
running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb.


I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't 
even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery 
drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand 
in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's 
not having issues staying connected.


Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue:  Screen time is off, 
Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is off, 
background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have 
been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice.  I've 
also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo.  Last week I 
tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and 
keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours.


I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before 
the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other 
apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was expected.



My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the phone 
as a new device.



Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue?  Also, if I do the 
restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs?



Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my 
phone.  And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the upgrade.



TIA for thoughts.


Lisa



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Re: Four-Finger Horizontal Swipe Stopped Working in iOS 12

[Donna]

Me too!✋ Using the 4 finger swipe to move from one app to another in the app 
switcher works for some apps but not others. I have found consistency in the 
order of some apps in which the swipe gesture doesn’t work. For example, I 
can’t swipe from Facebook to the  VoiceDream app or vice versa. Nor can I swipe 
from Ordit, a game app to Safari or vice versa. But if VoiceDream & Ordit are 
not in the app switcher I have no trouble swiping from Facebook to Safari., 
even if there are other apps in the app switcher in order between Safari & 
Facebook. This leads me to think that the problem is within the VoiceDream & 
Ordit apps. 

Donna  

I was so hoping that the four-finger horizontal swipe to move among open 
applications problem where when swiping past the last open application would 
drop the user to the home screen would be fixed in iOS 12. Instead of fixing 
it, I can't get this gesture to do anything. Everyone tells me it works on 
their phones, I must be doing something wrong. While this is probably accurate 
and correct in the majority of cases (ha ha), not this time. I have had others 
try the gesture on my 8 Plus with iOS 12.1, VoiceOver running, at least two 
applications open, and it does absolutely nothing. Does anyone else have this 
problem? Has the gesture been changed and I just missed it in the release notes?
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Four-Finger Horizontal Swipe Stopped Working in iOS 12

[Steve Matzura]

I was so hoping that the four-finger horizontal swipe to move among open 
applications problem where when swiping past the last open application 
would drop the user to the home screen would be fixed in iOS 12. Instead 
of fixing it, I can't get this gesture to do anything. Everyone tells me 
it works on their phones, I must be doing something wrong. While this is 
probably accurate and correct in the majority of cases (ha ha), not this 
time. I have had others try the gesture on my 8 Plus with iOS 12.1, 
VoiceOver running, at least two applications open, and it does 
absolutely nothing. Does anyone else have this problem? Has the gesture 
been changed and I just missed it in the release notes?



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RE: battery drain in ios 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is always a good idea as the absolute minimum to make sure you quit all apps 
in the app switcher and reboot your phone prior to an update. If it is a major 
update, e.g. from iOS 11 to iOS 12 as in this case I usually do a reset network 
settings before the update just to make sure if there are any processes running 
that they are terminated.

Best regards,
Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: battery drain in ios 12

Hi, Sieghard:
I did not do anything to my phone prior to upgrading to Ios 12.  Screen time 
was never turned on, so as you suggest, I’ll try resetting network settings.
Louise

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Subject: RE: battery drain in ios 12

Also, if you just updated battery will most likely be used more during the 
first couple of days after the update since the phone is reindexing a lot of 
stuff.
As Sean said, give it a few days, then do a Reset Network Settings and also, 
afterwards, plug in your phone, then turn it off completely over night leaving 
it plugged in. Turn it on the next morning and see how it behaves.
Just out of curiocity, did you do anything in preparation for the upgrade or 
did you just tell it to install when it prompted you?
Lastly, remember that after you do a Reset Network Settings you have to 
reconnect to your WiFi and you will need to enter the WiFi Password, also, if 
you renamed your phone or if it is called anything other than simply “iPhone”, 
then you have to go to Settings > General > About and rename it in there.


From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:00 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: battery drain in ios 12

Have you turned off screen time as well? With this on, your phone will log how 
long you use it each day, thus draining your battery. Turning this feature off 
should reduce the strain on your battery. HTH.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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On Oct 15, 2018, at 7:10 PM, Donna 
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I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
draining problem.

Donna

Hello, all:
Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains quite 
quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location services 
appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should change?  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

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RE: battery drain in ios 12

[Louise Peyton]

Hi, Sieghard:
I did not do anything to my phone prior to upgrading to Ios 12.  Screen time 
was never turned on, so as you suggest, I’ll try resetting network settings.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
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Subject: RE: battery drain in ios 12

Also, if you just updated battery will most likely be used more during the 
first couple of days after the update since the phone is reindexing a lot of 
stuff.
As Sean said, give it a few days, then do a Reset Network Settings and also, 
afterwards, plug in your phone, then turn it off completely over night leaving 
it plugged in. Turn it on the next morning and see how it behaves.
Just out of curiocity, did you do anything in preparation for the upgrade or 
did you just tell it to install when it prompted you?
Lastly, remember that after you do a Reset Network Settings you have to 
reconnect to your WiFi and you will need to enter the WiFi Password, also, if 
you renamed your phone or if it is called anything other than simply “iPhone”, 
then you have to go to Settings > General > About and rename it in there.


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Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:00 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: battery drain in ios 12

Have you turned off screen time as well? With this on, your phone will log how 
long you use it each day, thus draining your battery. Turning this feature off 
should reduce the strain on your battery. HTH.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
draining problem.

Donna

Hello, all:
Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains quite 
quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location services 
appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should change?  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

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Re: battery drain in ios 12

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hi 


Go into Settings, then General.

Swipe through this page and towards the bottom is a Reset option.  Double-tap 
here and there will be an option to reset your network settings.

Hop0e this has helped you.

Malcolm.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Oct 2018, at 19:39, Louise Peyton  wrote:
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> Hi:
> How do you reset network settings?  Thanks.
> Louise
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
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>  
> I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
> draining problem. 
>  
> Donna 
>  
> Hello, all:
> Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains 
> quite quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location 
> services appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should 
> change?  Thanks in advance.
> Louise Peyton
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RE: battery drain in ios 12

[Louise Peyton]

Hi:
How do you reset network settings?  Thanks.
Louise

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
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I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
draining problem.

Donna

Hello, all:
Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains quite 
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appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should change?  Thanks 
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Louise Peyton
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RE: battery drain in ios 12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Also, if you just updated battery will most likely be used more during the 
first couple of days after the update since the phone is reindexing a lot of 
stuff.
As Sean said, give it a few days, then do a Reset Network Settings and also, 
afterwards, plug in your phone, then turn it off completely over night leaving 
it plugged in. Turn it on the next morning and see how it behaves.
Just out of curiocity, did you do anything in preparation for the upgrade or 
did you just tell it to install when it prompted you?
Lastly, remember that after you do a Reset Network Settings you have to 
reconnect to your WiFi and you will need to enter the WiFi Password, also, if 
you renamed your phone or if it is called anything other than simply “iPhone”, 
then you have to go to Settings > General > About and rename it in there.


From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:00 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: battery drain in ios 12

Have you turned off screen time as well? With this on, your phone will log how 
long you use it each day, thus draining your battery. Turning this feature off 
should reduce the strain on your battery. HTH.

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I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
draining problem.

Donna

Hello, all:
Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains quite 
quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location services 
appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should change?  Thanks 
in advance.
Louise Peyton

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Have you turned off screen time as well? With this on, your phone will log how 
long you use it each day, thus draining your battery. Turning this feature off 
should reduce the strain on your battery. HTH.

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> On Oct 15, 2018, at 7:10 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
> draining problem. 
> 
> Donna 
> 
>> Hello, all:
>> Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains 
>> quite quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location 
>> services appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should 
>> change?  Thanks in advance.
>> Louise Peyton
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Re: battery drain in ios 12

[Donna]

I had this problem also. I reset network settings. Doing so helped my battery 
draining problem. 

Donna 
> 
> Hello, all:
> Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains 
> quite quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location 
> services appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should 
> change?  Thanks in advance.
> Louise Peyton
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Re: battery drain in ios 12

[Lisa Belville]

Hi.


I've got an iPhone SE and I've noticed the same thing.  Before iOS 12, I 
could sit my phone down with a 100% charge and it would lose maybe one 
or two percent over several hours even with notifications and an 
occasional in-coming call.  Now my phone loses about 2 percent battery 
an hour, and this is with it on stand by with no calls or other apps 
running.



I've made sure auto brightness is off and I had to re-disable automatic 
fetching for my Email.  I've also made sure location services are off 
except when they are necessary.



I've also done a hard reset and it hasn't made a difference.


Other than that I like iOS 12,


Lisa Belville

missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/15/2018 3:57 PM, Louise Peyton wrote:


Hello, all:

Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery 
drains quite quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My 
location services appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything 
else I should change?  Thanks in advance.


Louise Peyton

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battery drain in ios 12

[Louise Peyton]

Hello, all:
Since downloading Ios 12 on my iPhone 7, I’ve noticed the battery drains quite 
quickly.  It went from 100% to 70% power in one hour.  My location services 
appears to be turned off  in settings.  Anything else I should change?  Thanks 
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Re: IOs 12?

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi thank you.  I will download the ios 12 and work with it.  I know 
eventually I will need to go there anyway.  Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 6:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IOs 12?

First, I have to admit to being wrong about one thing in Overcast, you cannot 
get the time of an episode until you have started to play it, but you do not 
have to download it. 
Now, on to your question about iOS 12.  It is the best and most stable release 
yet from Apple, but I cannot answer your question about whether you will be in 
trouble since I do not know what version you are currently using.  If you are 
using iOS 11.4.1 then all indications are you will be fine and will not lose 
any functionality.
I cannot speak to earlier versions that might let you use apps that are still 
32 bit, since those will not run any longer.

HTH,
Richard






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  Hello, I was listening to your comments on the most accessible podcast apps.  
I was interested in getting overcast.  I attempted to download and install 
overcast and it said, you need to use ios 12.  Now, I am not the most or even 
close to being savvy with teck.  Am I looking for trouble if I install the 
latest ios?  Of course there is a learning curb but, will I be able to send 
txt, and other daily tasks before I get oriented with ios 12?  Thank you, your 
wisdom is so valuable to those like me.  Andy and Shubert
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Re: iOS 12 tips: 7 security settings you need to check right now, USA Today

[Christopher Chaltain]

Also don't forget that if someone find a cell phone without a pass code, 
even if no sensitive data is stored on that phone, calls could be made 
from that phone, text could be sent from that phone and cellular data 
could be used from that phone. In addition to possibly running up your 
phone and data bill, the thief could


cause a lot of mayhem posing as the person who lost the cell phone. 
Security is a personal choice each person has to make, and I'm not 
criticizing anyone for not putting a pass code on their phone, but I 
just think people need to be aware of the consequences.

On 10/13/2018 05:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

If somebody doesn't use many apps or doesn't set up email on their phone the 
only problem with not protecting the phone with a passcode is that if it were 
ever stolen it would make it super-easy for the thiefs to use or sell the phone 
as a fully functioning phone. You may not have sensitive information on  your 
phone and your Apple Id and is not necessarily compromised since even if 
somebody stole your iPhone they wouldn't know your password, but if you have 
email set up on the phone you do actually have sensitive information on it 
because somebody could simply request a change of your password and often this 
involves  a link being emailed where you have to click on it to confirm so 
giving somebody access to yoru email actually represents a huge security thread 
to many of your online accounts.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 12 tips: 7 security settings you need to check right now, USA 
Today

Your Apple ID and password are sensative information.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Jewel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 12 tips: 7 security settings you need to check right now,
USA Today



I have no sensitive information stored in my phone, so security is of no
great concern to me.
I updated to 12 a week ago, but didn't touch settings.  I do get asked for
my passcode, but I,
simply, double tap on "cancel"  and the phone accepts that and just goes
about its business, as it
did when my operating system was 11.  something.

  Jewel

--
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:29 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: iOS 12 tips: 7 security settings you need to check right now,
USA Today

What she neglected to mention is the Setting where you can instruct your
iPhone to self-erase after
10 failed passcode attempts. I definitely turn this on since I figure that
if I can't unlock my
iPhone after 9 attempts I deserve it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS 12 tips: 7 security settings you need to check right now, USA
Today

Seven iOS 12 security setting tips you should check right now
By Jennifer Jolly, Special for USA TODAY 3:00 a.m. PDT Oct. 11, 2018

Apple's latest mobile software, iOS 12, tightens up security and privacy
issues on iPhones.
To get the most out of the updates though, you might have to tweak a
setting
or two.
Here's how to take full advantage of the latest bug fixes and make sure
you're keeping your device as safe as you can from hackers and prying
eyes.

Take advantage of stronger passcodes
Apple didn't change the default lock screen from a four-digit code to
six-digit one just to mess with you. The longer your device passcode is,
the
harder it is to hack. Hackers often use software to cycle through every
possible passcode combination - known as a brute-force attack - and since
a
four-digit passcode has just 10,000 possible combinations, it doesn't take
long for a computer to break right in!
If you're still using a six-digit or, heaven forbid, a four-digit
passcode,
it's time to upgrade to something better. You can make passcodes as long
as
you want, and you can set it to use numbers and letters or numbers only. I
prefer numerical only because then I don't have to mess with the keyboard,
but go with whatever works for you. Just know that if you're still using
11 or 123456 - you're begging to get hacked.
Go to Settings > Touch ID & Passcode and enter your current passcode.
Then,
go to Change Passcode and, from the Passcode Options and set a Custom
Numeric Code.

Use automated two-factor authentication
Two-factor authentication adds an extra layer of security to all your
logins
by asking new devices to confirm that they're legit. After you log in to
an
app or site with two-factor enabled you'll get a text message to your
phone
number with a verification code, ensuring you're the only one who can
access
the account.
Apple has two-factor support baked right into iOS 12, and it's so
incredibly
easy to use that it auto-fills the codes for you - so yo

RE: IOs 12?

[Maria Reyes]

Yes iOS 12 is really stable so upgrade if you can.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOs 12?

First, I have to admit to being wrong about one thing in Overcast, you cannot 
get the time of an episode until you have started to play it, but you do not 
have to download it.
Now, on to your question about iOS 12.  It is the best and most stable release 
yet from Apple, but I cannot answer your question about whether you will be in 
trouble since I do not know what version you are currently using.  If you are 
using iOS 11.4.1 then all indications are you will be fine and will not lose 
any functionality.
I cannot speak to earlier versions that might let you use apps that are still 
32 bit, since those will not run any longer.

HTH,
Richard




xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. Utah 
Phillips





礪

On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Hello, I was listening to your comments on the most accessible podcast apps.  I 
was interested in getting overcast.  I attempted to download and install 
overcast and it said, you need to use ios 12.  Now, I am not the most or even 
close to being savvy with teck.  Am I looking for trouble if I install the 
latest ios?  Of course there is a learning curb but, will I be able to send 
txt, and other daily tasks before I get oriented with ios 12?  Thank you, your 
wisdom is so valuable to those like me.  Andy and Shubert
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Salem, MA. 01970
Phone 978-745-4289
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RE: IOs 12?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, I assume that people who have Overcast and who have not upgraded to iOS 12 
can use it and maybe even re-download it from their list of installed apps but 
that any completely new installs then do require it. This is interesting.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOs 12?

Sieghard, I was surprised to see him say he had to have iOS 12, but it does now 
say in the app store that iOS 12 is required.
It could be because of the Siri shortcuts that if you had not already installed 
it, you cannot now without iOS 12.  Seems odd, but that is my best guess.

Richard




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Phillips





礪

On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
As Richard said, if you use iOS 11 now you should absolutely download iOS 12, 
it was better on release day than iOS 11 after all the updates it had.
Having said that, it makes no sense whatsoever that you need iOS 12 to use 
Overcast, in fact, there is no way that is required since many people have used 
and use it who are not yet on iOS 12.
Is it possible that it said you need iOS 12 for certain features to work? That 
I could understand because Overcast has support for SIRI shortcuts and that is 
a feature only available in iOS 12.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOs 12?

First, I have to admit to being wrong about one thing in Overcast, you cannot 
get the time of an episode until you have started to play it, but you do not 
have to download it.
Now, on to your question about iOS 12.  It is the best and most stable release 
yet from Apple, but I cannot answer your question about whether you will be in 
trouble since I do not know what version you are currently using.  If you are 
using iOS 11.4.1 then all indications are you will be fine and will not lose 
any functionality.
I cannot speak to earlier versions that might let you use apps that are still 
32 bit, since those will not run any longer.

HTH,
Richard




xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. Utah 
Phillips





礪

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was interested in getting overcast.  I attempted to download and install 
overcast and it said, you need to use ios 12.  Now, I am not the most or even 
close to being savvy with teck.  Am I looking for trouble if I install the 
latest ios?  Of course there is a learning curb but, will I be able to send 
txt, and other daily tasks before I get oriented with ios 12?  Thank you, your 
wisdom is so valuable to those like me.  Andy and Shubert
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Re: IOs 12?

[Richard Turner]

Sieghard, I was surprised to see him say he had to have iOS 12, but it does now 
say in the app store that iOS 12 is required.
It could be because of the Siri shortcuts that if you had not already installed 
it, you cannot now without iOS 12.  Seems odd, but that is my best guess.

Richard




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Phillips



礪

On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

As Richard said, if you use iOS 11 now you should absolutely download iOS 12, 
it was better on release day than iOS 11 after all the updates it had.
Having said that, it makes no sense whatsoever that you need iOS 12 to use 
Overcast, in fact, there is no way that is required since many people have used 
and use it who are not yet on iOS 12.
Is it possible that it said you need iOS 12 for certain features to work? That 
I could understand because Overcast has support for SIRI shortcuts and that is 
a feature only available in iOS 12.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOs 12?

First, I have to admit to being wrong about one thing in Overcast, you cannot 
get the time of an episode until you have started to play it, but you do not 
have to download it.
Now, on to your question about iOS 12.  It is the best and most stable release 
yet from Apple, but I cannot answer your question about whether you will be in 
trouble since I do not know what version you are currently using.  If you are 
using iOS 11.4.1 then all indications are you will be fine and will not lose 
any functionality.
I cannot speak to earlier versions that might let you use apps that are still 
32 bit, since those will not run any longer.

HTH,
Richard




xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. Utah 
Phillips





礪

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was interested in getting overcast.  I attempted to download and install 
overcast and it said, you need to use ios 12.  Now, I am not the most or even 
close to being savvy with teck.  Am I looking for trouble if I install the 
latest ios?  Of course there is a learning curb but, will I be able to send 
txt, and other daily tasks before I get oriented with ios 12?  Thank you, your 
wisdom is so valuable to those like me.  Andy and Shubert
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RE: IOs 12?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As Richard said, if you use iOS 11 now you should absolutely download iOS 12, 
it was better on release day than iOS 11 after all the updates it had.
Having said that, it makes no sense whatsoever that you need iOS 12 to use 
Overcast, in fact, there is no way that is required since many people have used 
and use it who are not yet on iOS 12.
Is it possible that it said you need iOS 12 for certain features to work? That 
I could understand because Overcast has support for SIRI shortcuts and that is 
a feature only available in iOS 12.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOs 12?

First, I have to admit to being wrong about one thing in Overcast, you cannot 
get the time of an episode until you have started to play it, but you do not 
have to download it.
Now, on to your question about iOS 12.  It is the best and most stable release 
yet from Apple, but I cannot answer your question about whether you will be in 
trouble since I do not know what version you are currently using.  If you are 
using iOS 11.4.1 then all indications are you will be fine and will not lose 
any functionality.
I cannot speak to earlier versions that might let you use apps that are still 
32 bit, since those will not run any longer.

HTH,
Richard




xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. Utah 
Phillips





礪

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Hello, I was listening to your comments on the most accessible podcast apps.  I 
was interested in getting overcast.  I attempted to download and install 
overcast and it said, you need to use ios 12.  Now, I am not the most or even 
close to being savvy with teck.  Am I looking for trouble if I install the 
latest ios?  Of course there is a learning curb but, will I be able to send 
txt, and other daily tasks before I get oriented with ios 12?  Thank you, your 
wisdom is so valuable to those like me.  Andy and Shubert
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Re: IOs 12?

[Richard Turner]

First, I have to admit to being wrong about one thing in Overcast, you cannot 
get the time of an episode until you have started to play it, but you do not 
have to download it.
Now, on to your question about iOS 12.  It is the best and most stable release 
yet from Apple, but I cannot answer your question about whether you will be in 
trouble since I do not know what version you are currently using.  If you are 
using iOS 11.4.1 then all indications are you will be fine and will not lose 
any functionality.
I cannot speak to earlier versions that might let you use apps that are still 
32 bit, since those will not run any longer.

HTH,
Richard




xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. Utah 
Phillips



礪

On Oct 14, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello, I was listening to your comments on the most accessible podcast apps.  I 
was interested in getting overcast.  I attempted to download and install 
overcast and it said, you need to use ios 12.  Now, I am not the most or even 
close to being savvy with teck.  Am I looking for trouble if I install the 
latest ios?  Of course there is a learning curb but, will I be able to send 
txt, and other daily tasks before I get oriented with ios 12?  Thank you, your 
wisdom is so valuable to those like me.  Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
P.O.Box 1077
Salem, MA. 01970
Phone 978-745-4289
Cell 978-578-0185

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